“If we fail to preserve it, it will never, ever exist again”

Dinner with the family tonight, our last before moving on. And as a going away present, I have bought each of the youngest cousins a copy of John Stuart Mill’s On Liberty which had come up in an earlier conversation. And perhaps strangely to others but not to myself, I was reminded of Mill in listening to Trump’s speech in Poland. He was here discussing what we too easily take for granted.

We are the fastest and the greatest community. There is nothing like our community of nations. The world has never known anything like our community of nations.

We write symphonies. We pursue innovation. We celebrate our ancient heroes, embrace our timeless traditions and customs, and always seek to explore and discover brand-new frontiers.

We reward brilliance, we strive for excellence, and cherish inspiring works of art that honor God. We treasure the rule of law and protect the right to free speech and free expression.

We empower women as pillars of our society and of our success.

We put faith and family, not government and bureaucracy, at the center of our lives.

And we debate everything. We challenge everything. We seek to know everything, so that we can better know ourselves.

And above all, we value the dignity of every human life, protect the rights of every person and share the hope of every soul to live in freedom.

That is who we are. Those are the priceless ties that bind us together as nations, as allies and as a civilization.

What we have, what we inherited from our — and — and you know this better than anybody and you see it today, with this incredible group of people — what we’ve inherited from our ancestors has never existed to this extent before. And if we fail to preserve it, it will never, ever exist again. So we cannot fail.

I agree with every word he said. Mill is unreadable today. His nineteenth century prose is too difficult but his ideas are not. They are the core values of the West. The cultural-Marxism that pervades so much has made Trump, like Mill, incomprehensible across much of the world in which we live. This is the great tragedy of our times, but there may yet be worse to come.

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38 Responses to “If we fail to preserve it, it will never, ever exist again”

  1. Tintarella di Luna

    Thank you Steve, Trump’s words are like an ancient dialect which echoes the Platonic virtues and heavenly graces which were once the foundation and inspiration to all that made Western civilisation civilised.

    Since the 1960s the apathy, cowardice and venality of our political leaders has betrayed the people who do believe in faith and family. They have now led us to the lip of the abyss — we are seeing barbarism and decadence mixing in the cauldron. Who is holding the ladle?

  2. Bruce of Newcastle

    The natural form of government is an oligarchy. Unfortunately. An oligarchy allows the rewarding of insiders whilst providing sufficient coercive strength to prevent it being overturned.

    We are seeing our liberal democracies turn into oligarchies of the Left.

    Oligarchies are always coercive since they dare not allow the rest of the population any real freedom, as that would threaten their own power and wealth.

  3. manalive

    “…  Mill is unreadable today …”.
    On Liberty is available free as an audio file which I find is easier to comprehend.

  4. Akhenaten II

    Trump’s speech does not address the wars of aggression the US and its allies (Israel, Saudi Arabia, Qatar etc.) are waging in the Middle East with the goal of destroying another ancient civilisation – Iran. Nonetheless, I proffer this rather good analysis;

    “In today’s schools, even if a semblance of history is rarely taught in those classrooms, the usually purported source of explanations for anything which happened in history, at any time, or in any place, is still the English and British empiricists’ dogma of immutable “human nature.” Usually, especially in today’s English-speaking classrooms, that is the traditional, modern British definition of human nature, pretty much as Thomas Hobbes, John Locke, Bernard Mandeville, David Hume, Adam Smith, Jeremy Bentham, and John Stuart Mill, described it, and, as the doctrine of Kurt Lewin is taught in the form of the rabid irrationalism of the “sensitivity” cults, in ever more U.S. classrooms today.

    In reality, contrary to such simple-minded explanations as those popularized, statistical notions of the empiricists, the most important distinction among cultures and leading currents within cultures, is to be found in the differences among the ways in which each of these defines what it identifies as “human nature.” In the sweep of the rise of globally extended European civilization, since ancient Greece, the differences among working definitions of human nature, fall into two general classes, several sub-classes, and, finally, specific types within the bounds of classes and sub-classes. The most important subject-matter of such historiographical studies, is located in the transitions which move a society from one such type, or class of axiomatic definition, to another. The evolution of the conception of human nature within ancient Greece itself, as shown by tracing this evolution from the Homeric epics to Plato, is the most crucial example of those processes of change–e.g., transitions–which bring the underlying principles of history-making–e.g., epistemology and statecraft–into focus.”

    Source/Full Article: http://www.larouchepub.com/lar/2000/lar_information_soc_2717.html

  5. Peter

    A fine article by Melanie Phillips UK conservative commentator on Trump in Poland http://www.melaniephillips.com/trump-in-poland/

    More particularly Phillips expostulates on the bemused response from UK mainstream media in the form of the BBC: “……………Opined Professor MacMillan: “There are bonds that hold us together and there are often bonds of history, but the idea there is something called ‘the west’ seems to me very dubious indeed. There are many wests, there are many different ways of looking at who we are, and I’m worried by the whole tenor of his speech. The talk of the ‘will’, the family, traditional values, what does that all mean?... ……..she found something frightening or sinister about traditional values or the emphasis on the family: the very things that keep any society together.”

    Perhaps the BBC has not heard of the statement that Western Civilization is built on a foundation of Greco-Roman philosophy; Judeo-Christian morality and Anglo Saxon laws and government. These are the principles and underpinnings which understood and acknowledged by Trump…………but a total mystery to the BBC.

    The fact that the BBC does not understand something so fundamental as what constitutes ” the West…… the family, traditional values” summarizes neatly in one befuddled question what is wrong with the Left and why it must be stopped. The fact that she finds the family sinister far, far worse and indicates perhaps the next emerging battle by the left – to destroy the traditional family in favour of statism. A battle they are already beginning to fight.

  6. duncanm

    Trump’s speech does not address the wars of aggression the US and its allies (Israel, Saudi Arabia, Qatar etc.) are waging in the Middle East with the goal of destroying another ancient civilisation – Iran.

    With any luck, Trump will knock Iran back to the dark ages of 1979.

  7. duncanm

    Oh, and Akhenaten II, if you’re going to quote LaRouch, surely you agree with Trump?

    And we debate everything. We challenge everything. We seek to know everything, so that we can better know ourselves.

  8. Ellen of Tasmania

    The talk of the ‘will’, the family, traditional values, what does that all mean?

    Poor, deluded Professor Macmillan.

    I bet she does know ‘what that all means’. It’s all those things she is probably fighting hard to destroy.
    ………………………….

    “We’re proud to present a brand new edition of The Mark Steyn Show. In this episode, Mark talks to Douglas Murray, with whom he last appeared on the tenth anniversary of the Mohammed cartoons in the Danish Parliament. Douglas discusses his new book The Strange Death of Europe: Immigration, Identity, Islam, published in America this week and which Mark describes as “profound”.

    Steyn and Murray survey a continent in unprecedented demographic transformation, and roam far and wide in their analysis from the East End of London to the Mediterranean refugee camps, from far northern Sweden to the tomb of Charles Martel.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iAKfHntZMw

    (I love Steyn’s interviews – he really does a great job.)

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    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2435403, posted on July 8, 2017 at 7:57 am
    The natural form of government is an oligarchy.

    Sortition and confederation with a rotating presidency would sort that out.

  11. duncanm

    Like I said.

    knock it back to the ’70’s

    I used to work with a couple of Persian Iranian ladies – they were well beyond my years, but a bag of fun.

  12. struth

    Trump’s speech does not address the wars of aggression the US and its allies (Israel, Saudi Arabia, Qatar etc.) are waging in the Middle East with the goal of destroying another ancient civilisation – Iran.

    This is addressing it.

    what we’ve inherited from our ancestors has never existed to this extent before. And if we fail to preserve it, it will never, ever exist again. So we cannot fail.

    Learn to comprehend, not just to read.

  13. H B Bear

    More unhinged lunacy from The Atlantic,

    When the president says being Western is the essence of America’s identity, he’s in part defining America in opposition to some of its own people.

  14. struth

    When the president says being Western is the essence of America’s identity, he’s in part defining America in opposition to some of its own people.

    They need to try harder.

  15. Peter

    “When the president says being Western is the essence of America’s identity, he’s in part defining America in opposition to some of its own people.”

    I am glad he has. Those same people want to subvert and redefine what America is and reshape it in their own sorry image. Now that would be one hell of a dystopian outcome.

  16. max

    The civilisation or the government of Iran ?

    Iranians are snooty about not being Arabs. Whatever.

    Akhenaten II, those paragraphs you quote above follow the sociologists’ style manual. Absolute sludge.

    Compare the clarity of Trump’s sentences.

  17. Rafe

    Reminiscent of Pericles funeral speech.
    Who knows what that means today?

  18. Chris M

    With any luck, Trump will knock Iran back to the dark ages of 1979.

    The Christian church is growing in Iran at a faster rate than anywhere so the problem is in effect being solved without bloodshed or a Trump involvement.

  19. Some are questioning Democracy. It can work if there is legislation to jail anyone that lies in the framing of referenda and the for and against cases, and also in election manifesto. Someone like Turnbull here or Clinton in USA should be in jail. The same with Gillard who promised before the election there would be no Carbon tax and then introduced one. Gillard should have been charged and locked up for life. Democracy will work when people are honest and there is law in place to keep them honest.
    The Swiss system of Direct Democracy is working but would work better with laws to stop lies particularly by Greens and other socialists.

  20. struth

    Akhenaten II, those paragraphs you quote above follow the sociologists’ style manual. Absolute sludge.

    Was that sociologist, or socialist?

    It’s much the same I suppose.
    The sort of dribble academics engage in when confronted with straight talking common sense.
    They become jabbering lunatics that can still suck in the more gullible betas prone to intellectual masturbation.

  21. mh

    2gb’s Richard Arnold said that Trump’s speech in Poland had a “racist tinge”.

  22. Rohan

    I orignially laughed when Trump ran as a Republican candidate. I’m not now. I’m almost certain he is the real deal.

    Can’t wait till he begins draining the swamp wholesale. It will be spectacular.

  23. Tom

    Trump’s speech does not address the wars of aggression the US and its allies (Israel, Saudi Arabia, Qatar etc.) are waging in the Middle East with the goal of destroying another ancient civilisation – Iran.

    You idiot.

    The objective of Trump’s campaign against Iran is simply to undo the damage done by Obama’s disgraceful, underhanded, subversive deal (which he tried to cover up) to load up Iran with American cash and the ability to build a nuclear weapon with which to destroy Israel.

  24. john constantine

    “Heavily armed police commandos moved in after activists had spent much of the day attempting to wrest control of the streets from more than 15,000 police, setting fires, looting and building barricades.

    With meetings between leaders of the club of 20 largest global economies finished for the day, police stormed the last holdouts, who had gathered in the Schanzenviertel district, an area known for its left-wing activism and culture of squatting.

    With two months to go before she seeks re-election, Chancellor Angela Merkel had hoped to cement Germany’s growing global leadership role with a demonstration of its unwavering commitment to free speech, assembly and dissent by holding the summit in the centre of a city with a proud radical tradition.

    Protesters torched cars and lorries, smashed windows in banks, looted retail stores and hurled paving slabs and other objects before police managed to restore order. Some 197 officers were injured after two days of clashes in the port city. Police made 19 arrests and detained dozens more.”

    Wreck the Joint is the pure mentalityof the left.

    The Bollards of Orwell are just something for the left to hide behind from the water cannons.

  25. Kneel

    “When the president says being Western is the essence of America’s identity, he’s in part defining America in opposition to some of its own people.”

    Indeed he is – do you not see the irony in complaints about this?

    Those who go there (the west) for refuge from the excesses of their own culture, go there because of democracy, freedom of speech, freedom of religion and the rule of law. That they would seek to change it into its very antithesis – something resembling the very culture they or their forebears left – is the pure idiocy and bloody-mindedness inherent in the faulty culture they left behind and is fully deserving of the mocking derision they so rightfully receive.

    I am sure that such refugees feel pride in their cultural heritage and would say it has been perverted by a few. Perhaps that is even so.

    However, I also have pride in my cultural heritage, not least because it has helped to prevent that very perversion-by-the-few for several centuries, and allows these refugees to live their own lives in their own way, asking only that they obey the same rules as all others and allow others to also live as they see fit – live and let live, as it were. I also have pride in it because it has lifted millions from poverty, slavery and discrimination – many of the beneficiaries not even residing where it rules, and in many cases not even asked to pay the price in both money and blood that their resulting freedom has cost. Neither has “the west”, after liberating those millions, demanded the imposition of western culture, preferring to allow the newly liberated the freedom to choose their own forms of government and apply their own laws as they see fit. That so many choose to model their new governments and laws on variations of the western model, and that those who wish to impoverish, enslave and discriminate seem only able to do so by the use of force rather than argument, seems testament enough to the value of western culture – but perhaps that is merely hubris, eh? Perhaps the west really is the worst form of government – except for all the other ones yet tried, to paraphrase a great man. To paraphrase another great man, freedom of speech is hard, democracy is hard. And while nothing worthwhile is easy, and being hard is no guaranty of worthwhileness, I certainly believe that in this case, the hardness is the cost of its worth. Therefore, you should demand the right of this man to speak, even as you argue long and vehemently against what he has to say.

    Sorry for the rant 😉

  26. Tom

    When the president says being Western is the essence of America’s identity, he’s in part defining America in opposition to some of its own people.

    Relativism like that has only one destination: totalitarian communism. The 21st century’s Stalinists will do everything but discuss the consequences of the evils they celebrate.

  27. Muddy

    Kneel at 1:31 p.m.

    Spot on. You don’t need to apologise for what you have written, for you have expressed what I, and I suspect a multitude of others, feel.

  28. Tel

    How about this then? A special report just to state the bleeding obvious. With enough of these eventually it might get through to our elected representatives. Well, probably not, but perhaps a few of them might get a clue:

    The foreign funding for Islamist extremism in Britain primarily comes from governments and government linked foundations based in the Gulf, as well as Iran.

    Foremost among these has been Saudi Arabia, which since the 1960s has sponsored a multimillion dollar effort to export Wahhabi Islam across the Islamic world, including to Muslim communities in the West.

    In the UK, this funding has primarily taken the form of endowments to mosques and Islamic educational institutions, which have apparently, in turn, played host to Islamist extremist preachers and the distribution of extremist literature. Influence has also been exerted through the training of British Muslim religious leaders in Saudi Arabia, as well as the use of Saudi textbooks in a number of the UK’s independent Islamic schools.

    A number of Britain’s most serious Islamist hate preachers sit within the Salafi-Wahhabi ideology and are apparently linked to Islamist extremism sponsored from overseas, either by having studied in Saudi Arabia as part of scholarship programmes, or by having been provided with extreme literature and material within the UK itself.

    There have been numerous cases of British individuals who have joined Jihadist groups in Iraq and Syria whose radicalisation is thought to link back to foreign funded institutions and preachers.

    http://henryjacksonsociety.org/2017/07/05/foreign-funded-islamist-extremism-in-the-uk/

  29. Muddy

    after activists had spent much of the day

    This comes back to retaking control of our language. They are NOT activists, and if from the ‘right of centre’ would not be so passively labelled by the anxiety-porn pimps. They are parasitic vermin who suckle from the safety of a host and then seek to disembowel the same.

    Many years ago when I was young[er] and naïve, I read some U.N. booklet that I picked up at World Expo ’88 in Brisbane, and amongst the anti-war, pro-refugee screeds was a brief article from some anthropologist about a community somewhere in Africa called the Iks. I cannot now recall the details, but essentially, the Iks are claimed to have regularly defecated on the doorsteps of their neighbours (or at least this anthropologist who was living among them) and to be almost completely devoid of manners and a sense of community. Perhaps these ‘Iks’ are more common and numerous than previously thought.

  30. mh

    A lot of people in the West are having a Moment of Revelation

  31. Barry 1963

    But when will he build the wall and kick the Mexicans out?

  32. Parser

    Kneel at 1.31:
    Do not apologise. You speak for me and millions of others. More power to your pen!
    JD

  33. Kneel;
    The grasshoppers and cockroaches that flee to the fecundity of the West do not do so because they envy us our riches, they do it because it is the natural order of things that grasshoppers and cockroaches plunder and loot without contributing anything else than chaos.

  34. JC

    Europe is a leftist shithole. Is that really worth preserving? Huh?

  35. Infidel Tiger

    Europe is a leftist shithole. Is that really worth preserving? Huh?

    Liquidate the people and keep the real estate would be my choice.

  36. John constantine

    Resources, the longer the resources of Europe can be denied to the caliphate, the better chance of a miracle preventing total global jihad.

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