The culture war: how we got to where we are

  • Courtesy of Gramski, Lukacs and the Frankfurt School.

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    81 Responses to The culture war: how we got to where we are

    1. struth

      It all starts in our schools.
      The dark depressed minds of Academics who aren’t getting a root.

      It’s a hard slog that video, but very good.
      The subject matter is so sick and depressive, it’s hard to make it easy.
      A simpler version to just introduce who and what the Frankfurt school was, would be great.

      A bit like exposing Soros.
      The masses won’t sit through all that.
      They should.

    2. A Lurker

      Can someone please invent a time machine and take all these monsters permanently out of history.

    3. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

      The west is in terminal decline, literally. We will be in another dark age by end of century.

    4. pbw

      It’s a very good analysis of the School and it’s influence. Why, though, did it prosper when the failure of socialism to inspire the “masses” was the barren ground from which critical theory tried to flower?

      From today’s Mass readings: “And as he sowed, some seeds fell along the path, and the birds came and devoured them. Other seeds fell on rocky ground, where they did not have much soil, and immediately they sprang up, since they had no depth of soil, but when the sun rose, they were scorched. And since they had no root, they withered away. Other seeds fell among thorns, and the thorns grew u and choked them. Other seeds fell on good soil and produced grain, some a hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.”

      What was the good soil?

      As this video says, there were movements of “sexual liberation” in the 20s, 30s and 40s, but they sputtered out. I would add that the 50s were no different. It was the sixties that provided the “good soil,” through a pharmacological revolution that disconnected the boomers and all subsequent generations from reality. The fact that the degenerate fantasy culture constructed on that pharmacology is utterly dependent on Big Pharma is an irony that would be delicious, were the ruins not so heart-breaking.

    5. Rafe

      The good soil of the 60s was conscription during the Vietnam war. The war was defensible but conscription was not.

    6. manalive

      OMG what a nasty piece of camouflaged antisemitic crap, compare the image in the video at 23:42 with this.

    7. Arky

      Rafe
      #2442483, posted on July 16, 2017 at 3:02 pm
      The good soil of the 60s was conscription during the Vietnam war. The war was defensible but conscription was not.

      ..
      This is precisely correct.
      Conscription worked in WW2 because of Pearl Harbour.
      Why they thought it would work in Vietnam is beyond belief.

    8. Louis Hissink

      One of the weapons Cultural Marzipans use is language resulting in mismeanings. Semitic people, for example, are identified as a language group so anti-Semitism is being opposed to a language unless you are a Cultural Marzipan, and then it has to mean something quite different.

      Little wonder no one could counter the CM’s – they themselves invented a collection of neologisms and changed the meanings of established words to yield a select language only they understood but the rest not. Gibberish is gibberish and countering gibberish on its own terms seems a bit much of an ask, and then not knowing the meanings of the words and arranging them in random order to produce PM concatenations of words that make no sense is not what most here could perform for any period of time before becoming confused or at worst, intellectually incapacitated.

      It must be fun living in Blue Pill world where all sorts of miracles occur and when at least six impossible ideas are fabricated before breakfast.

    9. Free love in the sixties worked because of the invention of the “pill”

    10. Louis Hissink

      The “Pill”, A pill sanctifying hypocrisy

    11. manalive

      anti-Semitism is being opposed to a language …

      Utter garbage, ‘antisemitism’ has a dictionary meaning well understood by just about everyone viz. “hostility to or prejudice against Jews” (Oxford Dictionary of English) …period.

      [This comment held up in auto-moderation due to banned words. Sinc]

    12. Roger

      “Hideous malcontents who couldn’t abide freedom or fun.”

      This explains why cultural Marxists & Islamists are in lock step.

      The fun begins when society is completely undermined and they get to decide who calls the shots then.

      Back the guys with the swords.

    13. manalive

      Comment vanished.
      Apparently freedom of speech is something that doesn’t apply to the good professor’s blog.

    14. Vagabond

      OMG what a nasty piece of camouflaged antisemitic crap, compare the image in the video at 23:42 with this.

      Picked it like a nose! The Frankfurt school is a bete-noir of the jew haters of the alt right. You only have to glance at some of their blogs, if you can stand it, to get a feel for how fetid they are. Every ill of society ends up getting attributed to (((you-know-who ))). Comments on any blog post about any innocuous topic invariably get diverted to the same thing. It would be a great basis for a game like the Cat’s interruption lotto. Post something on, say, ingrown toenails and take bets on how long it takes for the subject to get to the pernicious influence of the chosen tribe on the manicure industry.

    15. manalive

      Just take a look at the comments under the YouTube version of that vile video … you bet I’m wound up.

    16. john malpas

      The state saw the feminists coming and realised that they would be a great source of tax if they worked and didn’t breed.
      and it was so,
      Easy abortion and divorce ensued

    17. one old bruce

      This is just rehashing crude 1930s propaganda, it’s ‘Kulturbolschewismus’ all over again.

    18. alexnoaholdmate

      OMG what a nasty piece of camouflaged antisemitic crap, compare the image in the video at 23:42 with this.

      Holy shit.

      Holy. Shit.

      At exactly 23.42, this video displays a piece of now-infamous anti-Semitic art – a famous poster of a hook-nosed J e w, overlaid upon photographs of academics, all while the voiceover gravely intones: “This is now standard practice on college campuses, in the media, and in Hollywood…”

      This is a piece of anti-Semitic propaganda – and the sad thing is, much of what it says in the video itself is true enough.

      But that’s how they get you – they give you just enough truth that when they shovel the J e w-hate at you, it doesn’t seem absurd. All the other stuff was true, right? So why not the Joooooo conspiracy stuff too?

      Take this video down. Please.

      [I’m not a fan of taking stuff down so it will stay. Sinc]

    19. P

      I note the above comment by Alex.

      A link in the Open Forum today by srr on Teaching Islam by Bernard Gaynor contained a comment by Angry Viking who put up an interesting link at the end of his comment of an interview over 30yrs ago:
      KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov’s warning to America

    20. struth

      Antisemitism. ….calm down.
      A few were Joooos.
      So what?
      So fucking what.
      So jooooos don’t have socialists and Marxists amongst them?
      These INDIVIDUALS were pricks no matter what race they were .
      Their race is irrelevant.
      They were who they were.

    21. Mark A

      manalive
      #2442581, posted on July 16, 2017 at 5:13 pm

      Comment vanished.
      Apparently freedom of speech is something that doesn’t apply to the good professor’s blog.

      Look up above your post, and apologise.
      The rules are clear, no “J e w” word.
      Bird!

    22. KevFromCanberra

      I don’t agree with everything in the video but it made me google the Frankfurt School and Marcuse.

      Reading briefly the Wikipedia entry for Marcuse is an eye opener. It finally solves the riddle for me of why leftists who claim to champion feminist thinking and LGBTQ causes are also trying their best to flood western countries with people from Africa and the Middle East who follow medieval belief systems that include honour killings, the subjugation of women’s rights and the throwing of LGBTQ people off roof tops.

      I now understand the actions of people like Angela Merkel and the feminists running Sweden.

      It is clear that any leftist following the script and inspiration of Marcuse would be very happy to use feminists, LGBTQ, people of colour and religious extremists as dupes to disrupt the existing social order in western countries. I guess the master plan is that once western society is torn down and destroyed by open warfare between these incompatible groups, and the old concept of a family consisting of a man a woman and children is destroyed, the leftists hope to step in and create a socialist utopia from the ashes of western societies.

      From Wikipedia:

      Marcuse argues that genuine tolerance does not permit support for “repression”, since doing so ensures that marginalized voices will remain unheard. He characterizes tolerance of repressive speech as “inauthentic.” Instead, he advocates a form of tolerance that is intolerant of right wing political movements:

      Liberating tolerance, then, would mean intolerance against movements from the Right and toleration of movements from the Left.

      Surely, no government can be expected to foster its own subversion, but in a democracy such a right is vested in the people (i.e. in the majority of the people). This means that the ways should not be blocked on which a subversive majority could develop, and if they are blocked by organized repression and indoctrination, their reopening may require apparently undemocratic means. They would include the withdrawal of toleration of speech and assembly from groups and movements which promote aggressive policies, armament, chauvinism, discrimination on the grounds of race and religion, or which oppose the extension of public services, social security, medical care, etc.

    23. Herodotus

      Good on you Sinc. Taking the video down would be repressive tolerance. It’s more of a history lesson than an artifact of a racially intolerant group, and any particular image cannot be taken as representing the entire venture. Don’t give in to PC pantybunchers, whatever direction they come from.

      The project to take down western civilisation by multiple fracturing of its essential cohesiveness is well advanced, as we see daily in the media and political preoccupation with crappy issues that should be ignored, shoved aside while the real threats are dealt with.

    24. stackja

      How much of the problem was created by Stalin and Beria legacy?

    25. alexnoaholdmate

      and any particular image cannot be taken as representing the entire venture.

      The video doesn’t use “any particular image” in making its point.

      It uses an actual Nazi propaganda poster featuring a dirty hook-nosed J e w, and it overlays this on top of photographs of myriad academics – many of them J e w s – while the voiceover discusses how the subjects control the media and Hollywood.

      If the video wasn’t trying to make a certain point, why did its author choose that particular piece of infamous Nazi propaganda to do so?

      Please note, I’m not being flippant about the word “Nazi”, throwing it around like Lefties do. When I say it uses a piece of actual Naxi propaganda to make its point, I mean that literally – it uses an infamous poster created by the Third Reich, featuring a disgusting caricature of a J e w ish person.

      Lastly, if you think I’m being precious, go to the video’s original YouTube page and read the disgusting comments. The subtext was certainly caught and embraced by certain people.

      I would truly hate for some Lefty in the media to find this thread and use it as “proof” of how conservatives are secretly all anti-Semites at heart.

    26. Tel

      Interesting, but wrong in many aspects.

      Absolute intrinsic beauty… naaa, sorry but people have preferences, that’s just how it is. Don’t believe me if you want but the preferences will still be there. I get it that the Cultural Marxists were able to use divisions within society as leverage to foster grievances and gain political power, but many others have done the same. To react to this with stamping feet and demanding, “no diversity” is not only unhelpful, it’s also Far King retarded. If Liberal Democracy is able to continue then the only option is to cater to diversity somehow.

      Now as for the sex / drugs / rock&roll angle, yes these can be subversive and culturally corrosive… they were designed to be, but that’s Capitalism I’m afraid to say. Capitalism does not have a moral position outside of delivering satisfaction to the customer. If the customer wants to enjoy his or her life, they will create an incentive by offering money and the Capitalist will deliver a product to fulfil the desire. The “War on Drugs” didn’t stop Capitalism, nor will wowserish YouTube videos. A lot of people got very, very rich out of sex / drugs / rock&roll and I’m sure many will continue to get rich out of other material pleasures. It’s the Communist societies that fail to deliver these enjoyments.

    27. Tel

      Also, I think that many aspects of the “make love not war” movement had perfectly legitimate criticisms of America. A very large part of US GDP has gone towards imperial wars, bombing various countries, encouraging uprisings, shipping weapons, destabilising governments, spying on everyone and everything, maintaining the largest navy in the world by far, and even things like abduction and torture.

      So, although Americans have enjoyed a great standard of living at home, they have been willing to look the other way while their government did many things to reduce the standard of living elsewhere.

    28. manalive

      Look up above your post, and apologise …

      Who appointed you Professor Davidson’s white knight?
      The professor can look after himself, I’m sure.

    29. Rafe Champion

      I am gobsmacked by the fuss about an image that appeared for about 5 seconds in 25 minute. I was listening to the commentary and barely noticed the images that were clear, never mind one that looked like avant garde art that was superimposed on others.

      The message of the video is very important and it has already had the desired effect of at least one Cat doing some more research and becoming better equipped for the cultural debate.

      I am sorry that Sinc had to be disturbed on his holiday by this rather pointless distraction.

      I hope manalive is exercising his alarm about anti-Semitism by fighting its new alliance with the radical left and forces in the ALP and the Greens.

    30. alexnoaholdmate

      Lesson learned.

      Blatant anti-Semitic imagery – including actual Nazi propaganda – is fine on the Cat, if the overall “vibe” of the piece is agreed with.

      Got it.

    31. Roger

      P’s link posted on July 16, 2017 at 8:45 pm:

      “KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov’s warning to America”

      Worth watching.

    32. Rafe Champion

      It is not just the vibe, it is a vitally important explanation of one of our biggest problems, that is the march of the radical left through the institutions of the west, especially the universities and the state education system.
      A particularly sinister aspect of that march is the recent alliance of the left and sections of the ALP with overt and active anti-Semitism.
      Can you alexnoaholdmate advise what you are doing on other sites to counter that active and overt anti-Semitism in addition to complaining about a five second image in a 25 minute video which conveys nothing to casual viewers or people who are only listening while engaged in other tasks.

    33. bollux

      Holy shit, there are good joos and bad. Who would have thought. Doesn’t change the message though. There is something going on in the West and it isn’t accidental.Still waiting for our all too numerous feminists to start ganging up on Islam.

    34. Rafe Champion

      Here is a thought, would it be ok for the Cat to post an obviously anti-Semitic item for the purpose of criticism, exposure of the authors and warning people against its influence?

    35. alexnoaholdmate

      Let me be clear, Rafe, that I’m not accusing you or anyone here of being a Nazi. Not at all.

      I’m just concerbed others might.

      The last thing we – or Sinc – need is some Lefty journalist trying to use Catallaxy as evidence that people of our political persuasion are closet anti-Semites.

      As to your question – what do I do about other websites that overtly endorse such things?

      Nothing. Not a damn thing. Because I don’t frequent such wretched hives of scum and villainy.

      I DO, however, frequent Catallaxy. Every damn day. Hence my concern.

    36. Sinclair Davidson

      Rafe – you’re being too harsh on alexnoaholdmate. True – unless you know what you’re looking for a brief image might not mean anything. But it was brought to your attention. Now shooting the messenger doesn’t help your case that the argument in the clip is still well worth considering.

    37. Sinclair Davidson

      The last thing we – or Sinc – need is some Lefty journalist trying to use Catallaxy as evidence that people of our political persuasion are closet anti-Semites.

      To be fair – these days lefties themselves have become anti-semites and might view that as being a positive.

    38. Herodotus

      Wasn’t the context that these guys had to get out of Germany because of institutional anti-semitism (insert historical image here)?
      How many videos are criticised as endorsing nazis because nazis are shown on screen?
      Methinks the objectors are looking for something, anything, to hang their critic’s hat on.
      Unless they can establish bona fides to the contrary, they might be suspected to be part of the Long March, and outraged that the chronology of the critical theory attack has been described so convincingly.

    39. alexnoaholdmate

      To be fair – these days lefties themselves have become anti-semites and might view that as being a positive.

      That’s even worse.

      An influx of illegal immigrants from New Matilda.

      This is a no-win situation.

    40. Sinclair Davidson

      Methinks the objectors are looking for something, anything, to hang their critic’s hat on.

      Maybe – I don’t know. The thing is if the image had appeared while discussing German policy during the Nazi era it could be appropriate. But it appeared while discussing power in Hollywood and the media.

    41. alexnoaholdmate

      But it appeared while discussing power in Hollywood and the media.

      And nothing in a video is done by accident.

      The filmmaker had to deliberately choose an actual Nazi caricature and throw it in just at that point.

      Why?

    42. Rafe Champion

      Point taken.
      Why indeed? A false note or a deliberate insertion.
      Have the producers of the video done others which are overtly anti-Semitic or is that image just a false note in the tune?
      In this case I think the tune – the explicit message of the video – is true and important. Still I am open to suggestions that there are errors of fact and interpretation in the story it tells.

    43. Sinclair Davidson

      Why?

      A rhetorical question, I hope.

    44. .

      I can’t see any reason to put that imagery in there other than as an anti-Shemitic slur.

      Like finding out your neighbour who is all for fiscal responsibility and personal liberties also believes in anti vax and reptilians.

      They were making a hell of an argument until “they” were tarred as the beneficiaries of Marcusean machinations.

      Don’t trust the alt right. If you are alt right, don’t trust everyone who suddenly claims to be alt right. Some of these people have been waiting decades for a wagon to hitch their agenda to.

    45. .

      Hmm. Do you guys think that American History X was a way to discredit conservatives?

      Derrick’s conversation with Elliot Gould is fairly eloquent and I’d say most of his points are correct until he starts dropping white supremacist turds towards the end.

      I don’t know, my impression is that black Americans are actually a little more racist than the MSM would have us believe as well. Spike Lee paints the Chewish guy as an intellectual ally of Derrick…I mean it could have been just a slight on Nazism as being very silly as having many partly Talmudic scholars as VHUs.

      I also remember the black guys tended to win most of the prison and street fights.

    46. Leo G

      P’s link posted on July 16, 2017 at 8:45 pm:
      “KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov’s warning to America”

      An engaging theory to explain the present apparent disintegration of Australian society. A process seeded by the acceptance of cultural Marxism in our education system.

      It’s a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages. The first stage being “demoralization”. It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of [their] enemy. In other words, Marxism-Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least 3 generation of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism; American patriotism.

      The result? The result you can see — most of the people who graduated in the 60’s, dropouts or half-baked intellectuals, are now occupying the positions of power in the government, civil service, business, mass media, and educational systems. You are stuck with them. You can’t get through to them. They are contaminated. They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern [alluding to Pavlov]. You can not change their mind even if you expose them to authentic information. Even if you prove that white is white and black is black, you still can not change the basic perception and the logic of behavior.

    47. Rafe Champion

      A historical factoid. The Frankfurt school almost moved to the LSE. Beveridge the Director was happy to host them but when Hayek got wind of the idea he ran across the campus and recruited Lionel Robbins to put a stop to it.

    48. Louis Hissink

      Bolshevikism is international socialism with no nation states.
      The alternative is national socialism with nation states.

      The present day political globalisation movement is simply international socialism under a different guise.

      However to ideologically migrate from one to the other seems to be the most heinous crime in the socialist pantheon.

      Hence the Left’s embrace of anti-Semitism might need to be viewed under this light.

      I suspect we underestimate the visceral hatred among the various socialist factions; Mises pointed out that their self hatred is far, far greater than the combined socialist hatred for capitalism.

      In terms of the history of socialism since 1848 it is now clear that to discuss it openly and honestly is taboo. We need to understand that the Frankfurt School was a phenomenon of its time and in Europe of most young people were either national socialists or communists – none were capitalists. Our CM’s are all international socialists, and their hatred for defectors to the other side, is visceral.

      Fomenting identity hatred etc as the video shows is the MO of the CM’s. They seem to want everyone to hate everyone else, to descend into civil war between irreconcilable tribes and identities so that once all are worn out and bankrupt they, then, can come in and take over. That’s the game in play and they have been playing since 1848.

    49. manalive

      The image superimposed on the video at ~ 23:42 appears under many guises but the original comes from an advertising poster for the 1940 Nazi film The Eternal Jew (‘Der Ewige Jude’ see Wiki).
      The video IMO is simply an updated version concentrating on a small group of refugees who happened to be Jewish and attributing to them influences way out of proportion to their number or prominence.
      It’s true that Marx and Engels were J*ish as were many early Bolsheviks, Trotsky, many Cheka, Bela Kun in Hungary, Eisner in Bavaria etc. and part of Hitler’s appeal to an economically devastated and terrified middle class was his claimed anti-Marxism but reading Richard J Evans’ trilogy it’s clear that Hitler used that as a vehicle to ‘normalise’ his pathologically insane hatred of all J*s.
      Hitler was perfectly happy to make a pact with the Marxist when it suited him.
      In a less diseased way admittedly, that is how that video appeared to me, the superimposed image near the end was a dead giveaway IMO — the comments on the YouTube site confirm that.
      *ew.

    50. Herodotus

      Nothing in a video is done by accident? Really? The images were pretty fast-changing and I missed that one entirely, and no doubt a number of others. The narrative – which was the important part – had nothing in it to suggest that it was produced by or served the viewpoint of an anti- semitic person. Nor have any other images been suggested as supporting that thesis. It’s looking just like most reflexive calls of “racist”.
      I still say this is a pretty thin peg to hang a critical hat on.

    51. Rafe Champion

      Like finding out your neighbour who is all for fiscal responsibility and personal liberties also believes in anti vax and reptilians.

      So we stop promoting fiscal responsibility and personal liberties?

      They were making a hell of an argument until “they” were tarred as the beneficiaries of Marcusean machinations.

      Who are “they”?

    52. .

      Well, the video makers use the imagery of the eternal chew whilst painting a dark conspiracy that someone benefits from in bringing down western values, so I reckon the makers of the video have an ulterior motive.

      Like I said. A turd in an apple cart. Doesn’t mean I stop eating apples though.

    53. Rafe

      What do we know about the video makers?
      And about their motive.
      We know the agenda of the Left.
      Can someone find a clean piece that is equally illuminating on the background to the march to the current era of political correctness.

    54. alexnoaholdmate

      Herodotus, the maker of the video had to seek out a picture of a hook-nosed J e w, find an old Nazi propaganda poster, and say “Yes! This is the image I want superimposed on my video while the voiceover discusses how certain people rule Hollywood and the media!”

      It involved a conscious and deliberate action on the part of the fimmaker to do so. That’s what I mean when I say nothing in a video can happen by accident. The Nazi propaganda didn’t just spontaneously appear in the film, it had to be placed there – and at a significant moment also.

      Why?

      If you think all of that is somehow just a co-incidence with no meaning… well, I admire your optimistic view of mankind.

    55. test pattern

      ‘Lukacs’

      Orban’s anti semites

      ‘The removal of the Lukács statue was accepted by the Fidesz-dominated Budapest City Council following a proposal from the fascist Jobbik party.’

      https://www.change.org/p/budapest-city-council-return-the-luk%C3%A1cs-statue-and-reopen-the-luk%C3%A1cs-archives-in-budapest

    56. alexnoaholdmate

      Oh, fuck off Testes.

      You’re the most racist person here.

    57. Rafe Champion

      So the Nazis are coaching us on the tactics of the coercive utopians of the Left! On the topic of unlikely alliances, recall the time when Murray Rothbard the hyperactive US Austrian/libertarian joined the New Left. It ended in tears. Too long for me to read (trying to finish some academic papers by mid September) – maybe someone can convey key points in comments.

    58. test pattern

      ‘racist’

      Sigh. There is no such thing as race and the term Othering covers that and a lot more. eg The NT CLP should be Othered, deported to Manus and resettled in Cambodia.

    59. P

      Rafe #2443349, posted on July 17, 2017 at 4:58 pm

      Can someone find a clean piece that is equally illuminating on the background to the march to the current era of political correctness.

      The video I put up here at 8:45pm last night, and has received two comments upthread, I believe sheds some light on that which you request:
      KGB defector Yuri Bezmenov’s warning to America
      The interview above was made approx 33yrs ago. IMO it rings true today here in Australia.

      I regret not equally illuminating.

    60. Pyrmonter

      “Gramsci”

      And Alex and Dot are right.

    61. Leo G

      Well, the video makers use the imagery of the eternal chew whilst painting a dark conspiracy that someone benefits from in bringing down western values, so I reckon the makers of the video have an ulterior motive.

      That’s drawing a long bow, Dot.
      VertigoPolitix is an offshoot of the Minds.com encrypted social networking platform (like WordPress). Users must register to post, follow, or be followed. The CEO and co-founder (with Mark Harding) is former Michael Dukakis Leadership Fellow and Uni of Vermont graduate Bill Ottman.
      A short YouTube video was released in April by “Rise of the Free Speech anti-censorship social platform” of Tim Pool talking with Bill Ottman about freedom, the future of the internet and what Mind.com is about.
      Its not some dark ISIS-inspired anti-semitic cabal, it just has some discomforting connections to the US Democratic Party. But it may be, in some sense, what it criticises using VPX.

    62. srr

      So, going by the busted Cultural Marxist’s argument for their hysterical demand that the video be removed, all media and academia must be taken down, because they are actually poluted with Cultural Marxist propagandists and propaganda, that is effectively so anti-semitic, anti-Christian, anti-family and anti-everything that strong, healthy society in built on that they’ve brought the world to the hellish state it’s in now … fair’s fair, lets do both then.

      F’n’ jackals, they’re so nasty and vicious when surprised without their sheep’s skin on and cornered with the facts of their sly, cowardly character, that they can’t escape.

    63. alexnoaholdmate

      Ussr defends Nazi imagery. Colour me shocked.

    64. stackja

      Mark Latham: Six months on, Donald Trump keeps draining the swamp
      Mark Latham, The Daily Telegraph
      July 18, 2017 12:00am
      Subscriber only

      The genius of Trump is in being “institution-free”.

      He is not beholden to any of the traditional institutions of politics, and often speaks out against them.

      Instead of sucking up to the media, he has created a cage-match of animosity, a fight to the death with leftist outfits like CNN.

      Trump’s appeal is directly to the people, bypassing the need for support from journalists, interest groups and even his own party.

      With conservatism dying, modern politics is now a choice between two competing paradigms: the leftist march through institutions (insider elites) and the Trumpian fightback (outsider rebellion).

      There is no third way.

      The civility conservatives need to get off the fence, pick the splinters out of their backsides and fight the Left as hard as Trump does.

    65. Herodotus

      It’s notable how many irregulars (and a couple of regular frootloops) came out of the woodwork to condemn a video that traces the arc of the Frankfurt group and subsequent adoption of destructive methods and principles in the USA.
      They must be feeling hurt by it.

    66. alexnoaholdmate

      They must be feeling hurt by it.

      Does the video contain deliberate use of Nazi propaganda images, or not?

      If so, why are you defending it?

      If not – please explain how actual Nazi caricatures of J e w s ended up in it by accident, at the precise moment that the filmmaker was discussing who apparently runs Hollywood and the media.

      Straight answers, please. Ta.

    67. Sinclair Davidson

      So we stop promoting fiscal responsibility and personal liberties?

      No – but we don’t work with our neighbour promoting his strange ideas.

      The problem as I see it is this: Extremists being ‘reasonable’ are trying to mainstream their otherwise abhorrent views and recruit fellow travellers. Now working on the ‘my enemy’s enemy is my friend’ is poor tactic in the end. Take this thread for example – instead of a short discussion about an obscure German school of thought there has been a long meta-discussion about Nazi propaganda.

    68. john constantine

      But the extremists just want people to stop worrying about money and let the State do that sort of thing, while the people become Free of Money-Worry and therefore Free to live a life of Love.

    69. Rafe Champion

      Sinc I think the Frankfurt School is an obscurantist movement but not an obscure one, it has been highly influential and damaging along the lines described by the video. I will run, no walk rapidly for a mile from the makers of the video if we find convincing and damaging information about them.

    70. Sinclair Davidson

      Okay – so you’ve made an effort to work who made it?

    71. Sinclair Davidson

      This is what I found:

      This is VertigoPolitix. We Study and Define Agendas.
      There are No Disclaimers. Anything Goes.
      Our primary focus concerns the replacement of European ethnic groups and their cultures within the lands of their inheritance and origin, with specific attention given to the economic, social, and political strategies used by western liberal democracies and globalist entities to accomplish this. Motives, trends, vectors, and the personalities behind this program will be central to the discussion. We accept any challenges and suppositions that support or defy our claims. If battle lines have been drawn, then is it not our right to know that they exist?

      Can I suggest you get your running shoes on?

    72. Rafe Champion

      Leo G provided a clue in a comment upstream but I don’t see where it leads. I was hoping that the people who are concerned about it would do that.

      I don’t think we can get away from the influence of the Frankfurt School and its partners. I appreciate that being familiar with Marcuse and Fromm et al is a sign of a mis-spent youth but when I landed in Sydney from Tasmania and south Australia in 1969 everyone on campus was reading them and the results are embedded in the humanities, social science and journalism schools around the western world. Even in Law schools, hence activist judges and magistrates.

    73. Rafe Champion

      Thanks Sinc, but that looks like gibberish to me, it is grammatical but they will have to explain themselves in more simple language before I will understand where they are coming from.

      Still, I don’t like the look of it so I am ready to run.

    74. alexnoaholdmate

      Seeing as the makers appear to be a group with a suspicious ideological bent after all –

      – Your apology, Herodotus, for calling people who pointed that out “frootloops”, is accepted.

    75. alexnoaholdmate

      Rafe is perfectly correct, and much of what the video claims is true, in regards to the damaging influence of the Frankfurt school.

      It’s just that the authors seem to attribute that damage to (yet another) conspiracy by ebil J o o o o s.

    76. Herodotus

      I’ll apologise when it’s demonstrated that they’ve actually misrepresented the Frankfurt school. Anyone taking a sidetrack to yell racist is a frootloop.

    77. Herodotus

      Sounds more like they’re anti “migrant” – and those migrants are predominantly muslims or africans, not those in the much wailed about denigratory poster.
      Our primary focus concerns the replacement of European ethnic groups and their cultures within the lands of their inheritance and origin,

    78. True Aussie

      Racist is a term created by cultural marxists in order to shutdown debate.

    79. Rafe Champion

      Thanks alex, your point and Sinc’s is taken, although I am still struggling to be clear where they are coming from. I will get my man Pavel on the job, he is my go to man on subversion, espionage, propaganda, false flagging, fake news etc. Fancy that, the phone rang and it is Pavel making arrangements to meet tonight to see Climate Hustle.
      His news is that the event has been overbooked by some 300 including a lot of dodgy names like Hon Bob Brown. He says to be prepared to trouble. Some conservative functions been organized with security precautions, I have no idea what the RSL club at Five Dock has done
      On the immediate point, he has looked at the second video that I put up, the interview with the Russian defector. This afternoon he will look at the first one.

    80. alexnoaholdmate

      Anyone taking a sidetrack to yell racist is a frootloop.

      Mate, you’re either wrong, or you’re defending Nazi propaganda.

      Own up to your mistake, move on.

      Anyway, that’s enough arguing with you. Time’s up.

    81. herodotus

      Tell us something interesting next time Alex.

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