The Soviet culture war

My Russian friend Pavel left the country in 1985 and became a wildlife collector and photographer based in Australia. He is a student of the history of the Soviet regime and its activities worldwide. He advised that from day one after the revolution in 1917 the second priority of the regime was to subvert the Western education system. The first was maintaining the rule of terror in Russia and later their Eastern European satellites.

Hence the significance of this video sourced by comrade P.

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43 Responses to The Soviet culture war

  1. srr

    Glad you’ve made a stand alone thread on this.

    I’ve shared this many times, everywhere, in short clips and this, the full interview –

    Yuri Bezmenov: Deception Was My Job (Complete)

    Jan 21, 2011
    This is G. Edward Griffin’s shocking video interview, Soviet Subversion of the Free-World Press (1984), where he interviews ex-KGB officer and Soviet defector Yuri Bezmenov who decided to openly reveal KGB’s subversive tactics against western society as a whole.

    Bezmenov explains how Jewish Marxist ideology is destabilizing the economy and purposefully pushing the U.S. into numerous crises so that a “Big Brother” tyranny can be put into place in Washington, how most Americans don’t even realize that they are under attack, and that normal parliamentary procedures will not alter the federal government’s direction.

    He then explains how Marxist leaders use informers to make lists of anti-Communist and other politically incorrect people who they want to execute once they – actually a Jewish oligarchy – come to power. The oligarch’s secret lists include “civil rights” activists and idealistically-minded “useful idiot” leftists as well.

    Bezmenov provides several real world examples of how Marxist leaders even execute and/or imprison each other. Also he explains how American embassy employees were known to betray Soviets attempting to defect, how there existed a “triangle of hate” in the Soviet government, why he realized that Marxism-Leninism was a murderous doctrine, and how the CIA ignored (or didn’t care) about Communist subversion.

    He also mentions that revolutions throughout history are never the result of a majority movement, but of a small dedicated and highly-organized group who seize power, whether for good or bad. Next he explains how the American mass media spread lies about life in the Soviet Union.

    Bezmenov also explains how the LOOK magazine article falsely claimed that the Russian people were proud of their victory in the Second World War, where in reality the Judeo-Bolshevik-Communist-Marxist government was happy that Hitler had been defeated so that they could remain in power.

    Find out how the KGB utilized various individuals to undermine the Western society in its morals and values.

  2. srr

    Someone has since put together an nearly 3 hour compilation of his –

    Yuri Bezmenov Full Interview & Lecture – HQ

    Mar 20, 2017
    Yuri Bezmenov’s full lecture given in LA in 1983. I have cleaned up the audio and filtered the video. But you can’t polish a turd.

    Introduction: 0:00
    Slide-Show Presentation: 32:33
    Subversion Lecture: 1:33:08
    Audience Q&A: 2:36:09

    Yuri Bezmenov worked as a “journalist” for Novosti Press Agency, which was a disinformation and propaganda agency controlled by the Soviet non-military intelligence agency (commonly known as the KGB). The Soviets called their disinformation work through Novosti “active measures,” though Schuman uses the phrase “ideological subversion” to describe the activity of Novosti. Actually, “ideological subversion” was more of a term used by Soviet and Soviet-bloc propaganda to characterize the supposed actions of the West to undermine socialist and Communist ideology within the Soviet Union.

    In the fifties and sixties, the Soviets and their allies began to use more creative means to mislead and misinform the West and the Third World, creating a cumulative effect that would in the long term be favorable to the Soviet Union. Novosti Press Agency was an overt and legitimate organization that published articles and books mainly for the West. It was ostensibly independent of the government, but we now know that this is a ridiculous claim. Most people assumed (and observed) that Novosti’s work was somewhat propagandist, but until Bezmenov many did not realize the extent to which Novosti worked closely with the KGB to produce disinformation and mislead foreign governments and organizations, to the extent that Novosti’s goals were quite simply the KGB’s goals.

    Looking back, many people might think that no one really took Novosti seriously. This is not the case. Western journalists and newspapers treated Novosti as a legitimate source of news and opinion. Papers like The New York Times used Novosti press releases just as they would the press releases of the AP, Reuters, AFP, or Groupe Presse. Novosti publications like the magazine Soviet Life and various books and travelogues were widely available in the United States and throughout the world and treated for the most part as honest, legitimate publications. Many of these publications can be found simply by searching Amazon for “Novosti Press Agency.”

  3. Tel

    OK, right from the start he starts talking about American media “pulling the bananas from their ears” and paying attention to what’s going on.

    Dude… who should be paying attention?!? The American media were 100% onboard with Soviet propaganda. They knew what they were doing. They actively supported the Cuban revolution, and just outright covered up the crimes of Castro… and they still are covering it up today! But this is no surprise, and quite a large number of Americans already know that. People simply adjust their perception, account for the massive left-wing bias and go on as usual.

    Now this defector guy was talking somewhere around 1988 saying you have “literally several years” and talking about economic destabilisation, but wait… which nation turned into a total economic flop? Oh yeah, it was the Soviets. They were the ones who couldn’t keep their shit together and that was without any infiltration from outside, that was their own system which was garbage and fell apart under natural internal forces. Doom predictions are a dime a dozen. Heck I read Zerohedge, I can sketch a quick outline of any doom that takes your fancy, and quite a number that don’t… but I’m also well aware that most of it is complete crap. I’m guessing the average KGB agent back in 1988 was happy to tell their boss how effective they were and keep banking the cheques… most government employees say exactly the same thing, but the prediction didn’t come to a whole lot more than Al Gore’s predictions.

    It’s quite possible the US system will also fall apart, but not thanks to Soviet infiltrators. Americans are mostly victims of their own success, and nothing else. Personally I expect that the Americans will re-invent themselves, which is something they are extremely adept at. I can’t really explain what it’s going to look like when it happens though.

    Then right at the end, the KGB defector starts railing about the evils of profit! Ummm, who got brainwashed? Who has that mush in his head?

  4. Boambee John

    If the second aim was to subvert the western education, it is ironic that it took until after the collapse of the Soviet Union for that aim to be achieved.

  5. Boambee John

    education system

  6. test pattern

    “It’s easy to become a Kremlin’s Agent: you just have to start speaking the truth”.

    The notorious Russian propagandist and culture warrior ‘The Saker’ promoting their new ‘Anthology of Russian Humor from Maidan to Trump’

    ‘This book ships from Australia’

    Putin has his propagandists ensconced here.

    https://www.amazon.fr/ANTHOLOGY-RUSSIAN-HUMOR-MAIDAN-LAUGHTER/dp/1521268673

    Yeah fuckin hilarious Vlad

    https://twitter.com/scottshumor?lang=en

  7. Big Jim

    It’s ironic how things have turned around. I looked up ‘hostile foreign power’ but it does not exist. On wiki anyway. I thought there must be a definition somewhere… but no. ‘Foreign power’ is a thing, defined in the US constitution, and it makes sense that hostility is an ephemeral concept. So I looked for a State Department website that could tell me who is hostile right now and who isn’t… kinda like our travel advisory website, but the real thing for legal purposes. All I could glean is that the US has ‘normal’ diplomatic relations with most countries, including Russia. The few not on the list coincided significantly with the travel ban countries.
    All the google hits on ‘hostile foreign power’ were from mainstream media in the last six months. There were also a few way older entries about Bismarck and Kaiser Wilhelm.

  8. Rafe Champion

    If the second aim was to subvert the western education, it is ironic that it took until after the collapse of the Soviet Union for that aim to be achieved.

    Check out the role of the teachers unions long before the collapse of the Soviet Union. To be concrete, see their work in the anti-nuclear power movement in the 1970s. In fact look at the whole worldwide apparatus of the anti-nuclear power movement which was the point of entry to the environmental movement as it took control from the old conservationists and became a new religion.

    Have a look at the way Alan Ashbolt advanced the radicalization of the ABC .

    Apart from education, which party holds the balance of power in the Senate?

    Contemplate the wharfies and the CFMEU. So our infrastructure costs are inflated by 40% . Not to mention the power industry. And the Fair Work Commission.

    The tenured radicals on campus were appointed during the 1970s. Was that before the Soviet Union collapsed?

  9. Big Jim

    Um Rafe, the soviet teachers union of 1985 was about three leagues to the right of today’s in objective terms. If you had introduced a motion about transsexual bathrooms in 1985, there would have been a lot of snorting about ‘butchers’ hoofs’ and then off the pub.

  10. Mark A

    Big Jim
    #2443474, posted on July 17, 2017 at 9:04 pm

    Um Rafe, the soviet teachers union of 1985 was about three leagues to the right of today’s in objective terms. If you had introduced a motion about transsexual bathrooms in 1985, there would have been a lot of snorting about ‘butchers’ hoofs’ and then off the pub.

    —————–
    This rubbish is a side issue, always was and will be, good distraction from the main issue though.

  11. Big Jim

    The main issue being that we no longer need the Commies to trash our civilisation. Worrying about the Kremlin IS the distraction.

  12. rebel with cause

    I’ve noticed the articles on what a tops place Venezuela is have dried up. And the commie porn trips to Cuba don’t seem to have taken off either on account of the place being an archaic festering shithole. But still the ideology ‘that’s never been tried properly’ persists.

  13. srr

    Glad you’ve made a stand alone thread on this.

    I’ve shared this many times, everywhere, in short clips and this, the full interview –

    Yuri Bezmenov: Deception Was My Job (Complete)

    Jan 21, 2011
    This is G. Edward Griffin’s shocking video interview, Soviet Subversion of the Free-World Press (1984), where he interviews ex-KGB officer and Soviet defector Yuri Bezmenov who decided to openly reveal KGB’s subversive tactics against western society as a whole.

    Bezmenov explains how Marxist ideology is destabilizing the economy and purposefully pushing the U.S. into numerous crises so that a “Big Brother” tyranny can be put into place in Washington, how most Americans don’t even realize that they are under attack, and that normal parliamentary procedures will not alter the federal government’s direction.

    He then explains how Marxist leaders use informers to make lists of anti-Communist and other politically incorrect people who they want to execute once they – actually an oligarchy – come to power. The oligarch’s secret lists include “civil rights” activists and idealistically-minded “useful idiot” leftists as well.

    Bezmenov provides several real world examples of how Marxist leaders even execute and/or imprison each other. Also he explains how American embassy employees were known to betray Soviets attempting to defect, how there existed a “triangle of hate” in the Soviet government, why he realized that Marxism-Leninism was a murderous doctrine, and how the CIA ignored (or didn’t care) about Communist subversion.

    He also mentions that revolutions throughout history are never the result of a majority movement, but of a small dedicated and highly-organized group who seize power, whether for good or bad. Next he explains how the American mass media spread lies about life in the Soviet Union.

    Bezmenov also explains how the LOOK magazine article falsely claimed that the Russian people were proud of their victory in the Second World War, where in reality the Judeo-Bolshevik-Communist-Marxist government was happy that Hitler had been defeated so that they could remain in power.

    Find out how the KGB utilized various individuals to undermine the Western society in its morals and values.

  14. Jannie

    The subversion of the education system succeeded because it was a doomsday weapon, like the Strangelove theme, once launched it could not be recalled. The fall of the Soviet empire did not neutralise the weapon, it accelerated it and created a force multiplier.

    It explains why Putin seems to understand that the (university educated) leaders of the West are stupid and unable to protect their own people.

  15. Burnt Stump

    Bezmenov wrote a booklet called “Love letter to America” under the name of Tomas Schuman. Easily found on line and worth a read for summary of what is discussed in his interviews.
    As an aside, “spend and save” is a marketing slogan Bezmanov used as an example of people losing the ability to think clearly.

  16. max

    If you want to read books on Conspiracy Theories :

Fabianism in the Political Life of Britain – 1919-1931

    Fabian Freeway High Road to Socialism in the USA

    Americas Secret Establishment Skull and Bones

    Carroll Quigley -Tragedy and Hope

    Creature From Jekyll Island G.Edward Griffin

    The Invisible Government, by Dan Smoot

    Too Clever by Half How the Round Table Lost the British Empire

    The Merchants of Death

    and you can google Antony Cyril Sutton books.

  17. Zyconoclast

    and you can google Antony Cyril Sutton books.

    Sutton was one of the best. I’ve mentioned his dorks more than once.
    To describe it as conspiracy is wrong.
    Hidden in plane site is better.

    Other good books include
    None Dare Call it Conspiracy – Gary Allen
    New Lies for Old : the Communist Strategy of Deception and Disinformation – Anatoliy Golitsin.

  18. struth

    The soviets aren’t the only global socialists/ communists attacking the west.
    Dismissing their attack is stupid.

    The frankfurt school was not Russian but still worked on destroying the culture of the west.
    To say America is a victim of it’s own success is a very envy/ left wing style statement.
    They, like us are victims of the Marxist enemies within.
    And mostly in our schools.
    The Russians and the Frankfurt school have planted the weeds in a beautiful garden and now they are out of control and spreading rapidly.
    The Russian economy had to eventually collapse.
    Socialism always will.
    The UN is now the home of the head honchos.
    And they have our politicians by the short and curlies.

  19. srr

    struth
    #2443678, posted on July 18, 2017 at 1:10 am

    The soviets aren’t the only global socialists/ communists attacking the west.
    Dismissing their attack is stupid.

    The frankfurt school was not Russian but …

    … Global/Communist/Anti-Christendom, and so, infected Academia Globally.

    Hence the insane (literally insane) state of Academia, that failed to protect itself from entrenching intellectual and spiritual cancers such as “Race and Gender Studies“, Banned “Hate Speech“, and “Safe Spaces“, as “World’s Best Practice“.

    But, thank God, God does indeed work in mysterious ways. Whenever any plague of body, mind or spirit threatens to wipe out humanity, you find those with natural immunity, raised up to positions where they can spread their antibodies.

    People such as G.K Chesterton, C.L. Lewis, Dennis Prager, Jordan B. Peterson, Dr. Duke Pesta … and so many more than these; intellectual medicine, of flavours palatable for all tastes … God knows all His children intimately 😉 🙂

    And even in this age of the internet and it’s 24/7 spreading of soul crushing disease via intellectual, moral and spiritual pornography, those who seek with their whole hearts and minds, can find Academics inoculated against The Frankfurt School dis-ease’s, offering cures for those ills – e.g. –

    Dr. Duke Pesta is a tenured university professor, author and the Academic Director of FreedomProject Academy, a Live Online School offering individual classes and complete curricula for students in Kindergarten through High School.
    For more from Dr. Duke and the FreedomProject Academy, please go to: https://www.fpeusa.org

    Here, a taste of the sort of soul food that revives those starving on diets of frankfurts –

    Hamlet is the greatest play in world literature – listen to a trained actor and Professor of Shakespeare talk in depth about what the play means, why its power endures, and what it reveals about the deepest parts of each of us. The glory of this tragedy is how it wakes us up to death, reminds us of the power – and danger – of passion, and brings to life the potential and paralysis of our own thoughts.

    Philosophy, nihilism, god, heaven, hell, revenge, love and life and death – Hamlet has it all! Dr. Duke Pesta, tenured professor, and Stefan Molyneux, trained actor, delve deep into the themes and meanings of the greatest secular story ever told.

  20. joe355

    From wikipedia:

    Bezmenov stated that he was also instructed not to waste time with idealistic leftists, as these would become disillusioned, bitter, and adversarial when they realized the true nature of Soviet Communism. To his surprise, he discovered that many such were listed for execution once the Soviets achieved control. Instead, Bezmenov was encouraged to recruit the persons in large circulation, established conservative media, rich filmmakers, intellectuals in academic circles, and cynical, ego-centric people who lacked moral principles.

    The players change, the game stays the same. Especially considering Russia’s newest American recruits…

  21. stackja

    And what the KGB/GRU did in Canberra never fully explained.

  22. Sparkle Motion

    Not on the main topic but if you haven’t clicked on the link to Pavel’s photos, do it.

    They are a brilliant display of some of Australia’s most remarkable inhabitants. Also a bunch from around the world too, really beautiful photos.

    PS: The ones of the Japanese Macaques in their hot springs conjure up my mental images of Catallaxy readers. Comfortable, but with world weary concerns on their faces!

  23. Sam Duncan

    “The subversion of the education system succeeded because it was a doomsday weapon, like the Strangelove theme, once launched it could not be recalled. The fall of the Soviet empire did not neutralise the weapon, it accelerated it and created a force multiplier.”

    Absolutely. Another ex-KGB defector, Anatoliy Golitsyn, suggested that this was an entirely deliberate strategy.

    (Although Bezmenov’s claims are entirely believeable, if not downright obvious, Golitsyn’s – that the demise of the Soviet empire itself was deliberately engineered for the longer-term good of communism, and that this was a two-pronged strategy shared with the Chinese that started with the “sham” of the Sino-Soviet split – steer pretty close to tinfoil-hat territory. That said, if they’re even partly true they would explain a lot.)

  24. Dr Fred Lenin

    Good post , the subversion must have started early at universities , Philby Burgess ,Mclean,Blunt Cairncross ,
    were subverted by Narxist uni staff in the 1930s ,those are the ones we know of at Cambridge . There would obviously be others ,there and at other universities world wide . Then the teachers would be next to be subverted . They have done , a great job corrupting the media and Hollywood , the public services of many western countries ,and the huge welfare recipient industry ,and now the muslim invasion of the west ,to destroy the will and morale of westerners . They are in an un natural alliance with the crony capitalists in the Chinese model , like that other socialist Hitler and Krupp ,I G Farben etc, They still have an excellent disinformation aparat climate change as an example .. ..They failed in the USSR and are now trying again at the fascist UN . We need a lot of Joe Mc. carthys to destroy this evil totalitarian filth .

  25. True Aussie

    You cannot understand modern Russian history without reading 200 Years Together the most banned book in the world

  26. Haidee

    “200 Years Together”
    Some claimed it was anti-Semitic. But some people look hard for that.

  27. Tel

    A good talk in itself, but also I think this makes an excellent contrast in perspective looking back the other way. Not entirely contradictory but just shows you how much a point of view can change the picture.

    https://ppe.mercatus.org/podcasts/07052017/political-economy-development-christopher-coyne

    Don’t worry, it is safe… there’s nothing even remotely anti-semitic in this talk… there is quite a lot that’s anti-soviet.

  28. test pattern

    ‘Sutton was one of the best… To describe it as conspiracy is wrong.’

    test pattern
    #2265124, posted on January 17, 2017 at 7:35 pm
    ‘Geoff McDonald explained it all in his great book Red Over Black’

    Oh dear. You bring LOR propaganda to Catallaxy. Alas, you’re not the first.

    Just because you don’t like the publisher, does not mean the information should be ignored.’

    Here you are at it again Zyconoclast, a dirty, despicable LOR propagandist. Just fuck off and don’t come back. Ever.

  29. Fisky

    Boambee John
    #2443451, posted on July 17, 2017 at 8:19 pm
    If the second aim was to subvert the western education, it is ironic that it took until after the collapse of the Soviet Union for that aim to be achieved.

    Soviet subversion of education lives on in the 1920s-style constructivist theory that has dominated initial teacher education for a generation. Nothing has done more damage the education of children in this country than constructivism. Disadvantaged children, especially indigenous, have been hardest hit.

  30. .

    Okay.

    http://sydney.edu.au/education_social_work/learning_teaching/ict/theory/constructivism.shtml

    It has to be true for infants.

    Doesn’t seem that bad Fisk. What is bad with experiential knowledge or Socratic dialogue?

  31. Fisky

    Doesn’t seem that bad Fisk. What is bad with experiential knowledge or Socratic dialogue?

    Nearly every instructional method or technique associated with constructivist theory has an effect size of zero, or close to it.

  32. The Hunted Mind

    This is a good analysis of the interview.

    That’s a great video, Arma. I never looked at the transgender bathroom controversy in that way. The Left pushing ahead with it despite massive unpopularity is because they want to undo the idea of majority rule. Great insight.

  33. Fisky

    BTW dotty – it’s not very good practice to not know the definition of constructivism at 3.36 in the afternoon, and then to come back at 3.38pm with a positive evaluation of constructivism.

  34. .

    I was looking for information. More would be great.

  35. Fisky

    See here for a list of very low effect sizes (from Hattie, J) –

    https://twitter.com/RuralPsych/status/880956221053968386

    Compared to the average effect size of 0.40 for all instructional interventions, we have:

    -Student control over learning: 0.01
    -Learning styles: 0.03
    -Web-based learning: 0.18
    -Problem-based learning: 0.22
    -Individualised instruction: 0.22

    So basically the entire tool-kit of constructivist pedagogy has little to no effect on student attainment.

    Also worth noting the effect size for phonics (0.7) versus whole language (0.06).

    https://twitter.com/RuralPsych/status/880965215344508928

  36. Fisky

    The only remotely effective technique associated with constructivism is cooperative learning, with an effect size of 0.4, which is right on the average for instructional interventions.

    But cooperative learning is really just group work delivered within the frame work of explicit instruction (0.6). Every team member has an assigned, highly-controlled and scripted role to play within the group.

  37. Sparkle Motion

    This has a nice summary of the more extensive meta-analyses Hattie undertook, with links to the original papers. Fascinating to scroll down to the bottom to see the things with negative effects too.

    https://visible-learning.org/hattie-ranking-influences-effect-sizes-learning-achievement/

  38. Haidee

    Very interesting people, the Russians. One thousand years of slavery; in ‘Forever Flowing’,
    Vasily Grossman asked .. why?

  39. Fisky

    https://gregashman.wordpress.com/2015/10/20/the-new-australian-curriculum-is-profoundly-flawed/

    I have been worrying for some time about the results of the Australian Curriculum review. Despite encouraging signs, the end result is deeply depressing in at least one aspect; the new collapsed “HASS” curriculum involves teaching children hardly any worthwhile content. In this post, I raised the following concern:

    “We need to be aware just how horrible “Humanities and the Social Sciences,” could be in the wrong hands. We could have Dewey-inspired approaches that start with the child and their place in the world etc. rather than learning about the Romans or the Egyptians or about the countries of the world.”

    Well, that’s what we’ve got.

    A quick search of the HASS document finds no mention of the Romans or Egyptians until Year 7. Instead, in an almost complete adoption of the APPA’s submission to the review, we have a vague, inquiry-based curriculum, light on content.

    Year 1 is typical. Here students will be, “given opportunities to explore how changes occur over time in relation to themselves, their own families, and the places they and others belong to.” The history ‘knowledge and understanding’ is described as follows:

    “The content in the history sub-strand provides opportunities for students to develop historical understanding through key concepts including continuity and change, perspectives, empathy and significance. The content for this year focuses on similarities and differences in family life over recent time (continuity and change, perspectives) and how people may have lived differently in the past (empathy). Students’ understanding is further developed as they consider dates and changes that have personal significance (significance). As students continue to explore the past and the present, they begin to speculate about the future (continuity and change).”

    ‘Empathy’ as content.

    Students will be investigating the Inquiry Questions, “How has family life changed or remained the same over time? How can we show that the present is different from or similar to the past? How do we describe the sequence of time?”

    And of course, this is all written-out in a confusing and unusable way, complete with loads of little icons to indicate general capabilities such as ‘critical and creative thinking’ that the more sensible submissions to the review sought to do away with due to the fact that they cannot really be taught.

    So a complete win there for Deweyan ideology; the idea that social studies have to start with the child’s immediate universe and work outwards. This, in turn, represents a total rejection of the scientifically-based Core Knowledge argument that knowledge of the world aids reading comprehension. So it also potentially hobbles any gains available through the new curriculum’s much vaunted emphasis on phonics.

    Moreover, it is a boring and woolly curriculum for young children to follow. As a father of two young daughters, I can confirm that they are hungry for knowledge of the world, ancient and modern, near and far, and that their imaginations are not limited to their immediate vicinity. It is hard to even comprehend such a narrow perspective except through the lens of ideology. Of course, children with middle class parents will still gain a lot of world knowledge from home and so the curriculum will act to aggravate inequality.

    What a complete waste of everyone’s time.

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