Open Forum: July 29, 2017

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  1. johanna

    Des

    Here is the link.

    They won’t say what, if anything, he did wrong, nor what the sanctions were.

    Nothing to see here, move along.

  2. Dr Faustus

    But Tim Wilson is in a safe seat, so he will get paid regardless.

    However, Trevor Evans, Brisbane, will be swept away by the Shorten Iron Broom.

  3. Rabz

    Ginny Sacramoni

    Err, who?

  4. John constantine

    Yarragrad introduces nations first unused house tax.

    Only one percent of value so far, but they have to start somewhere.

  5. Mother Lode

    I was going to say ”Conscience vote? Sod Tim Wilson’

    But that would likely encourage him.

    Don’t you just love the spin of them calling it a ‘conscience’ vote – better than letting us exercise our conscience.

    And are they really so deluded as to think anyone believes most (or even any) of them are creatures of conscience?

  6. Snoopy

    .
    #2455383, posted on July 31, 2017 at 1:17 pm
    Serious question – does “Down in the Boondocks” count as “blue eyed soul”?

    In Zimbabwe, ‘bhundu’ is Shona language slang for the (remote) bush but has been adopted by all language groups. As all Shona words end in a vowel sound, I reckon it is a corruption of ‘boondocks’.

  7. Rabz

    Yarragrad introduces nations first unused house tax.

    Wunderbar*. Unused bedroom tax next.

    *And no, spellwrecker, I’m not changing that to “underwear”.

  8. .

    “BTW, since you have been away, any comment on the senior ATO official involved in the Cranston case being reinstated at level after unspecified disciplinary action?”

    What an outrageous country. He should at least get fired and lose his pension.

  9. Tailgunner

    Think harder, Rabz!

  10. Rabz

    He should at least get fired and lose his pension

    Then be placed in stocks in his local town square and pelted with rotten fruit and vegetables.

  11. Rabz

    Thanks Tails, I nearly lost my lunch.

  12. True Aussie

    I hosted a meeting of AuCons here yesterday and 27 people showed up including two Cats. (Woolfie and Mole) .
    Things went well but all acknowledged that the road ahead is steep and lotsa work was needed. We all hoped Bernardi would get over here and address members and get some organisational structure happening.

    What do you see as the most important issues for the AuCons to focus on?

  13. srr

    Obama Holdovers in DC Are Scrubbing Evidence of ISIS Genocide Against Christians

    No President in US history showed as much hatred and disdain for Christians and J ews as former President Barack Hussein Obama.

    There are multiple examples of this –

    Obama turned a blind eye as tens of thousands of Christians and fellow minorities were slaughtered by the Islamic State.

    Obama was partying as Christians were massacred in Iraq and Syria.

    Iraqi Yazidis were persecuted for weeks before Obama was pressured to act.
    It was not a priority for the far left president.

    in November the largest Christian town Qaraqosh, Iraq was liberated from ISIS.

    The liberated Christians prayed for a TRUMP VICTORY on Tuesday.
    Obama brought them genocide.

    Evangelist Franklin Graham denounced the global silence on the Christian genocide by ISIS back in 2015.

    Graham posted this on Facebook after a father and son were reportedly crucified by the Islamic State.

    Now the Obama holdovers are scrubbing evidence of the ISIS genocide against Christians in Iraq and Syria.

    World Net Daily reported:

    Barack Obama himself said Muslims were a key to the founding of the nation and after all, the U.S. wasn’t a Christian nation.

    Muslim advocates, including some fairly radical, were installed in influential positions in Washington.

    Never were the words “Muslim” and “terrorist” to be used together, it seemed.

    Now, a report is confirming that those left in the government, and there are many, from Obama’s tenure are busy trying to erase the references to ISIS’ “genocide” of Christians in the Middle East.

    It is the American Center for Law and Justice that is, well, a little upset.

    “In a startling revelation, news is breaking this week that Obama holdovers within the State Department are actively attempting to scrub its records to remove any mention of the ISIS genocide against Christians,” the organization reported.

    “This is outrageous and the ACLJ has had enough, so we are preparing a new set of Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests to find out why – and to expose deep state operatives who would use the delay of confirming new State Department officials as cover to strip legal protections from Christians facing genocide.”

    President Trump ended Barack Obama’s discriminatory anti-Christian policies in July.

    RTWT –
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/07/obama-holdovers-dc-scrubbing-evidence-isis-genocide-christians/

  14. Des Deskperson

    “Desky or Johanna – any truth to this?”

    I have heard nothing and I have seen few signs of any serious physical upgrade of security around APS central offices in Canberra, although Russell offices seemed to have more bollards the last time I drove past.

    Most Secretary/agency head offices in Canberra have several layers of key card protection, including access to lifts and stairways. These may not stop a determined shooter – particularly one prepared to take hostages or make use of inside help – but if you were after the top people, it would be much easier to, as they say, take them out at or on their way home.

  15. bystander

    Anne
    #2455393, posted on July 31, 2017 at 1:23 pm

    Soon all emotions except apathy will be illegal.

    I started writing a thesis on apathy but couldn’t be bothered finishing it.

  16. Rabz

    Steyn on the Doors’ greatest hit. A funny excerpt:

    By the same token, the all-time greatest version of Queen’s “We Are The Champions” was Liza Minnelli’s at the Freddie Mercury memorial concert at Wembley: unlike all the scruffy rockers, Liza was the only performer who had the size of the song, and of the performer. Likewise, if you’d stuck Freddie in black tights and a fedora, I’m sure he’d have done a passable “Cabaret”

  17. Mike of Marion

    “Doc” and “Fifi” background at OSHKOSH 2017.

    A few words from the ‘owner’ of Doc and the 16 years to rebuild her.

    And from “Rosie the Riveter” who helped build them originally.

  18. cynical1

    take hostages

    If it is pollies held hostage, it may be the first time in history that people were begging for them not to be released.

    “I want a million bucks or they are dead”!

    “Fifties and hundreds ok”?

  19. srr

    Franklin Graham
    about 2 years ago

    It is genocide—and the world seems largely silent about it.

    Genocide perpetrated by the Islamic State against Christians, Yazidis, and other religious minorities of Syria and Iraq.

    And their methods are unimaginably cruel and heinous.

    Just a few days ago it was revealed that three Assyrian Christians were executed on September 23, which is the Muslim “Feast of Sacrifice,” and they say they’ll kill more hostages.

    And recent reports share the horror of 12 other Christians being murdered on August 28.
    Why were they killed?
    For refusing to renounce their faith in Jesus Christ.

    Eyewitnesses said that ISIS militants crucified a 12-year-old Christian boy and his Syrian missionary father along with two other men after mercilessly brutalizing them.
    They cut off the boy’s fingertips to try to get his father to convert to Islam.
    They left their bodies hanging on the crosses for two days under signs reading “infidels.”

    On that same day, ISIS militants publicly raped two Christian women in front of a crowd and then beheaded them along with six others when they refused to convert to Islam.

    “They have every intention of spreading that bloodshed around the world, including America,” Fox News reported. Pray for an end to this horrendous evil in the name of religion.

  20. DM OF WA

    From Yahoo News:

    the Haram al-Sharif holy site in Jerusalem, known to Jews as the Temple Mount

    When did it stop being the Temple Mount to everybody (except Moslems)?

    Looks to me like yet another small victory for Big Brother and Newspeak.

  21. stackja

    Rabz
    #2455419, posted on July 31, 2017 at 1:45 pm

    Ray Manzarek keyboard!

  22. That is not “mocking” anyone. That is aligning with Nazis. Why do they do that? Do they hate J ews?

    This is why I never adopt memes. Had I done so, this expropriation of it would have made me look like a nazi, whom I detest with a passion.

  23. Bruce of Newcastle

    Yarragrad introduces nations first unused house tax.
    Only one percent of value so far, but they have to start somewhere.

    Business opportunity.
    Soon paying people to live in your house will be a thing.
    Say $50 per week. That would be 20% of the tax on a fairly ordinary house or unit in Yarragrad.
    Paying someone to live in your house helps keep them decent, since not paying them is $50 a week they no longer have.
    So write an app for live-in house minders, like Uber.
    There’s your new business.

  24. Zyconoclast

    Safe schools at work in Victoriastan.

    Regulator gives OK to Grade 4 teacher who was sacked after telling incest tales

    A grade 4 teacher who told students stories about incest, allegedly called one a “hottie” and touched another on her waist while dancing with her, has been allowed to continue working by the teaching regulator.

    Parents trigger fresh probe into teacher who told incest tales to grade 4 pupils

    “The VIT takes its role in protecting children seriously and understands that the community must be reassured that our processes and decisions reflect the importance of this role,” chairperson Lesley Lamb said.

  25. notafan

    Business opportunity.
    Soon paying people to live in your house will be a thing.
    Say $50 per week.

    If the empty properties are held by foreign investors they won’t be bothered , I bet most are those boxy apartments in inner Melbourne, they’ll just pay the tax.

    Not even original, same as Vancouver iirc

  26. Snoopy

    Bruce’s idea deserves to succeed if only to deny Dickhead Dan the money.

  27. Diogenes

    New fred folks

    Business opportunity.
    Soon paying people to live in your house will be a thing.

    Nope , paying someone to install and monitor tap & power timers to ensure they are using an “appropriate” amount of power & water for a single person

  28. woolfe

    Trozzie,
    I got in late as I sat out the front drinking beer as thought that’s what we were there for.

    I should have stayed there but as it turns out a room was hired next to the restaurant so i wandered in. Was very dry in the meeting and the average age was 107. Without young people we are fucked.

    Yea and there was no sign of Odin, but maybe he was there in disguise at the TAB, you know like on American Gods.

  29. Bruce of Newcastle

    the Haram al-Sharif holy site in Jerusalem, known to Jews as the Temple Mount

    When did it stop being the Temple Mount to everybody (except Moslems)?

    This one today is fun:

    Saudi Arabia says calls for internationalisation of holy sites a declaration of war

    DUBAI (Reuters) – Saudi Arabia’s foreign minister called what he said was Qatar’s demand for an internationalisation of the Muslim hajj pilgrimage a declaration of war against the kingdom, Saudi-owned Al Arabiya television said on Sunday (July 30), but Qatar said it never made such a call.

    So…I’m slow…if Saudi thinks internationalization of that repurposed moon temple of theirs is bad…and Israel owns Jerusalem…and al-Aqsa is in Jerusalem…does that mean Saudi is saying that Israel should have full control of the Temple Mount…?

  30. Bruce of Newcastle

    the Haram al-Sharif holy site in Jerusalem, known to J_ws as the Temple Mount

    When did it stop being the Temple Mount to everybody (except Moslems)?

    This one today is fun:

    Saudi Arabia says calls for internationalisation of holy sites a declaration of war

    DUBAI (Reuters) – Saudi Arabia’s foreign minister called what he said was Qatar’s demand for an internationalisation of the Muslim hajj pilgrimage a declaration of war against the kingdom, Saudi-owned Al Arabiya television said on Sunday (July 30), but Qatar said it never made such a call.

    So…I’m slow…if Saudi thinks internationalization of that repurposed moon temple of theirs is bad…and Israel owns Jerusalem…and al-Aqsa is in Jerusalem…does that mean Saudi is saying that Israel should have full control of the Temple Mount…?

  31. Bruce of Newcastle

    Oops, sorry for the doubler. That word again.

  32. Stimpson J. Cat

    Without young people we are fucked.

    I tried.
    He refused to go in.
    He knew you were all old white Soldiers of Odin refugee haters who would have told him to f$ck off back on a boat to wherever he came from.
    Also he is seven and couldn’t drink or smoke and there was no playground.
    Playgrounds are the single most important policy area he is interested in.
    I suspect he may be slightly racist.
    He likes Kiwis though which is weird.

  33. Stimpson J. Cat

    Saudi is saying that Israel should have full control of the Temple Mount…?

    They want someone to use all their lovely new weapons on.
    Be thankful it’s Qatar.

  34. Zyconoclast

    But Tim Wilson is in a safe seat, so he will get paid regardless.

    However, Trevor Evans, Brisbane, will be swept away by the Shorten Iron Broom.

    Homosexuals make about 2% of the population, I suspect that the Libs have > 2% when counting those both in and out of the closet and the obsessive enablers like Warren Ensch.

    Looks like they have decided taking over the Liberal Party is easier and better than infiltrating the Catholics.

  35. C.L.

    You have to hand it to the Saudis.
    They live in a sand-pit and their ancestors were gypsy camel wranglers.
    Yet they’re rich because we told them what oil was and Mohammedans are handily obliged to go there once in their life-times to circumnavigate a small boulder stored in an outhouse.

  36. Tailgunner


    m0nty
    #2453973, posted on July 29, 2017 at 1:15 pm
    Monty – your take on the PAK-ISI infiltration of the DNC please.

    Show me evidence that Islamic State are involved. Sounds like some low level fraud, nothing more.

    Some good stuff there, for any that missed it earlier in this thread…
    Epic faceplant, god bless the journalists.
    😀
    😀

  37. val majkus

    Tim’s getting a pasting at the Oz in the comments section, my comment

    valerie 1 HOUR AGO
    look Tim, you’re in the news for all the wrong reasons, SSM is not a priority, try doing something about the budget deficit, save us some money by getting rid of the useless govt entities (think the HRC) among many that could be named, do something about electricity prices (hint more coal mines); do something about grid stability (hint get rid of the subsidies on renewables and derivative regulations putting pressure on electricity grids); protect and serve and forget about your own priorities, make Australia productive again!

    Like this one

    Jason 54 MINUTES AGO
    We (allegedly) have terrorists trying to gas a civilian aircraft full of passagners and the top story is Liberal MPs crossing the floor to support gay marriage…

    and this one

    Greg 51 MINUTES AGO
    Tim Wilson and Co’s time would be better spent working out how to guarantee cheap power for Australian industries.

    They weren’t elected to Parliament to pursue their own personal agendas.

    But they will have a good taxpayers funded night out at the Gay & Lesbian mardi gras while the rest of the country burns.

    That folks is where this country is at sadly. Self interested politicians.

    and this one

    Jennifer 50 MINUTES AGO
    “Needs” and “wants” take on a whole new meaning. We need to have the deficit fixed; we need cheap electricity; we need water; we need protected borders and so on. But … a minority wants same sex marriage. And now a “want” is the top of the list of priorities.

    Jennifer T

  38. Combine Dave

    Winston Smith
    #2455221, posted on July 31, 2017 at 9:32 am
    Combine Dave;

    Sounds like my life 🙂

    I got sucked into this twice.
    Couldn’t believe I had walked straight from one rake into another.
    I don’t know how Monty can do it day after day.

    Finally had my younger sister give me a hug and she said. “You’re a really nice bloke Winston, but knights in shining armour died out a long time ago, and you can’t rescue the world.”

    Just saw the bill on the credit the wife took out in my name…

    Not good 🙁

  39. Rococo Liberal

    Sinistra delenda est!

  40. val majkus

    even American Thinker has noticed Aussie power prices (piece mainly relating to Qld)

    Labor’s zealotry on renewable energy targets is sending the country broke. (snip)

    It comes as we also reveal that the Adani coal mine project will proceed with $400 million to be pumped into the project over the next few months, creating hundreds of jobs. This at a time when unemployment is at double-digit levels in north Queensland.

    With a Queensland state election looming – the likely date being late October or early November – cost-of-living pressures are emerging as a major poll issue. In fact, power prices could emerge as the biggest single issue. (snip) …
    Latest official figures from the Australian Energy Regulator show a 55 per cent leap in the number of households that had their power cut off in the three months to March. With more than 18,000 disconnections in the first nine months, the 2016-17 total is set to easily top last year’s 21,667. And in a further indication of consumers’ struggle, the number of Queensland customers entering formal payment plans with their providers has soared by a third to 42,361. Payment plans allow consumers to pay agreed amounts in instalments – according to their capacity and estimated usage over the coming year – to make it easier to budget.

    Welfare specialists say people are doing it incredibly tough around cost-of-living pressures. Mark Henley, CEO of Queensland Council of Social Service, says energy is “the one that is really hurting people’’. Of course, it’s the regions that once again are hit hardest. The air-conditioning costs in north Queensland are onerous because of the heat.

  41. val majkus

    love this comment on Brad Norington’s article on Shorten connecting to the heartland

    Greg 4 HOURS AGO
    If you want astronomic power bills and rolling blackouts, vote shorten. If you want gay marriage, vote shorten. If you want your children to be utterly confused about their gender and sexuality, vote shorten. If you want higher taxes, vote shorten. If you want a worse public health system, vote shorten. If you want a political alliance with terrorist organisations, vote shorten.

  42. OneWorldGovernment

    val m

    NEW THREAD

  43. Top Ender

    ABC News Breakfast interviewing a undersea wreck searcher. Talk turns to HMAS Sydney. Michael Rowlands states it’s an important wreck for Australians as 645 men and WOMEN went down with the ship.

    Well, one of the RAAFie blokes on board might have been a big girl’s blouse.

    But probably not.

  44. OneWorldGovernment

    TOP ENDER

    NEW THREAD

  45. Remind me again why there is no death penalty?

    Give it 100 years. There will be punishments we cannot even imagine for such filth.

    They go on about blowback. When the retribution begins, it will make ISIS look like boy scouts. Just ask the Japanese.

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