And then there’s that other leaked transcript

MT’s phenomenal lack of political judgement and wholly misplaced arrogant self-confidence is nicely displayed in the contrast with the other leaked transcript, where Donald Trump is speaking with the president of Mexico, Peña Nieto. This is from Ann Althouse, no friend of Trump, who asks Why is there so little talk about the leaked transcripts of Trump’s phone conversations with the leaders of Mexico and Australia? Her answer is that it’s because both transcripts show PDT in a very good light. If you go to the transcript at the link – highly recommended – you will see Trump has three things on his mind: who will be seen to pay for the wall, trying to find some means to stop the flow of drugs and criminal gangs coming across the border, and international trade between the two countries. Both he and the Mexican president think through and negotiate about what to do and how to do it. Here’s her conclusion:

Now, what if anything is there in all of that to use against Trump? Really, the only thing is that he cares about his personal political success and doesn’t mind referring to it directly, even when the other guy insists that it’s all only about the public good. There’s nothing in there about Trump perhaps not really wanting to build a physical wall. He seems dedicated to that. You can’t see him conceding that Mexico won’t pay for the wall. What you see is some complicated, political structuring of a way to get the wall paid for that will probably satisfy the people who heard that promise and wanted it kept. But what can his antagonists grab onto? They can’t very well oppose crushing the drug gangs or better trade deals. So it’s no wonder they went big with Oh! He insulted New Hampshire! And that’s it for the transcripts. Don’t encourage people to actually read them. They might think Trump did just fine.

The notion that PDT is out of his depth and his agenda is anything other than to make the US a better place – while in the meantime saving Western Civilisation from itself – you should read Ann’s column. It really is a revelation. A master class in international relations.

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15 Responses to And then there’s that other leaked transcript

  1. The contrast between Trump and Turnbull is incredible. The former is focussed on doing, the latter on dodging.

  2. TP

    Turnbull is a traitor & unfit for office. Anyone with an once of sense knows what he meant.

  3. Andrew

    I did think the call with Pres Piñata went well. Both understood the others political imperatives. T666 will pay for physical and virtual walls probably from proceeds of drug seizures and other proceeds of crime etc which Mexico won’t care about. In return T666 offers help with cleaning up bad hombres. The relationship between the two sounds really good compared to the FakeNews.

    Contrast that to St Malcolm switching from begging and whiny to trying at the end to be firm and getting hung up on.

    And left out of FakeNews – was St Mal trying to escalate our participation in Syria? Troops for Refos?

  4. Tintarella di Luna

    Note what Turnbull said about going through the process — that’s what’s gonna happen today, he has been part of this treacherous SSM conspiracy from the outset, sanctioned and blessed it – Turnbull is a craven, indolent piece of work.

  5. Tintarella di Luna

    And of course the Piece of Work’s apprentice is a Piece of Pyne

  6. True Aussie

    What the Fake News misses (or does not understand) is that negotiating high level deals is complicated and drawn out. Its not buying a used car ffs.

  7. Tom

    Mexico has already paid a big deposit on the wall, unwittingly. Tens of thousands of criminals have been sent back. Billions of dollars of drugs have been stopped and cash seized on many occasions.
    This has caused a massive drop in social security and food stamps, saving the government from over a billion dollars in welfare spending.

  8. IDefender of the faith

    “A master class in international relations.” Dear God.

  9. Hydra

    Mexico has already paid a big deposit on the wall, unwittingly. Tens of thousands of criminals have been sent back. Billions of dollars of drugs have been stopped and cash seized on many occasions.
    This has caused a massive drop in social security and food stamps, saving the government from over a billion dollars in welfare spending.

    5%? Could be worse.

  10. stackja

    Meanwhile:

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 15 minutes ago
    Just completed call with President Moon of South Korea. Very happy and impressed with 15-0 United Nations vote on North Korea sanctions.

  11. Rob

    And poor incompetent Greg Sheridan didn’t tell us any of this stuff.
    Neither did The Australian’s Washington Correspondent, Cameron Stewart.
    The Australian media is letting us down badly.

  12. Nerblnob

    When is the media going to acknowledge that almost every km of the USA/Mexico border is already covered by walls (yes, walls – https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/Algodones_sand-dune-fence.jpg) , high fences and a river?

    Clearly still very porous but the concept is not remotely new and the barriers were bolstered during all recent residencies.

  13. Nerblnob

    Presidencies, that is, both the loved and unloved ones.

  14. Paul

    The Australian media is letting us down badly
    Only the left wing Trump haters are letting everyone down.
    After all the left wing media don’t want people to know just how bad Obama’s immigrants in America have been.

  15. David Brewer

    Trump was indeed masterful in both discussions.

    On Mexico, he was starting from an almost impossible position on the wall. He promised his supporters that Mexico would pay, but Mexico cannot possibly agree to this. Meanwhile there is trade, where Trump insists on renotiating NAFTA, and has Kushner talking to the Mexican president’s offsider about this.

    If you read it carefully, Trump gets out of the wall like this. First he asks Pino Nieto to just stop saying they won’t pay. Doesn’t cost the latter much. Then he says, on this trade business, if it’s too complicated, I don’t mind just slapping on a tariff. Pino Nieto is stunned, says this is the first time he has ever heard this. Trump quietly explains he’s raised the prospect dozens of times on the campaign trail, and it wouldn’t worry him in the slightest, a quick and easy solution. Pino Nieto must see that unless he makes big concessions on NAFTA, Trump will just slap on a tariff and say that’s Mexico paying for the wall. Brilliant.

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