Open Forum: August 12, 2017

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  1. It was a meme dreamed up by conservatives to pretend that policy for a minuscule minority of edge cases should be extended to all cases. No one outside your echo chamber is listening to that kind of extremist rhetoric, nota. That genie escaped the bottle decades ago.

    Note that monty could not careless about a baby whose head is evacuated and crushed or left in a hospital closet to die alone having suffered grievous injuries following an unsuccessful abortion; they are merely ‘edge cases’. But he is at least consistent in not caring about these babies, because to care about these ‘edge case’ renders the rest of those ‘normal cases’ problematic because they are no different in the relevant aspect to the ‘edge cases’; that is, they are all innocent human beings deserving of the protection of the law.

  2. notafan

    Neil Prakash not enjoying his Turkish holiday accomodation, thinking wistfully of the paradise that is Australia (supermax).

    That whole Caliphate thing just an embarrassing memory.

    If he renounced his Australian citizenship before breeding, can his children be Australian citizens? would have thought more chance of claiming Dutch citizenship via their mother.

    Those caliphate passports are so yesterday.

  3. Fisky

    The root cause of Nazi terrorism is that there are strong feelings of alienation among white people that need to be addressed with government programs. I think giving free housing and government jobs to a number of these Nazis, should go a long way to quelling political violence.

  4. Stimpson J. Cat

    I’m just imagining the massive boredom the public has with anti-abortion crusaders.

    Literally trying to save lives is boring?

    It’s time to stop?

    Thanks for that insight.

    There’s your problem right there Monty.

  5. Makka

    That’s truly disgusting , OldOzzie.

    The nun stands stoically, enduring the embarrassment. I’m pleased however to see the moslem in her knees before her.

  6. incoherent rambler

    The unisex toilets, coffee machines, croissant warmers, antique clocks and decor were the features that swung the subs decision in favour of the French.

  7. Stimpson J. Cat

    Neil Prakash not enjoying his Turkish holiday

    Try the spicy Turkish sausage…. Incredible flavour apparently .

  8. db, I find it hard to credit your compassion towards babies when you would support taking healthcare away from poor mothers to support your political views, which would be a far worse outcome for many babies, including many without the congenital defects involved in those edge cases.

    None of which excuses all of you from trying to deflect from the news of the day, which is that a Nazi rally in America culminated in a white Republican committing a murderous act of terrorism against a defenceless woman.

  9. Fisky

    Pulling down Confederate monuments in these highly-charged times will only add to feelings of frustration and resentment among disenfranchised white people, likely leading to more car attacks. A vigorous program of Confederate monument construction, and the mandatory building of Jefferson Davis prayer halls in every workplace, should hopefully ease things a little.

  10. John64

    Just about sen it all now. A spokesman for “Muslims for Marriage Equality” bing interviewed on Sky.

    Then again, legalising homosexual marriage is just a step along the path towards legalising polygamy.

  11. Fisky

    John Cardillo‏Verified account @johncardillo 2h2 hours ago
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    Difference between the right and the left is that we’re about law & order. We want the driver prosecuted. The left would be celebrating him.

    There is no question whatsoever, that if a radical Leftist had driven a car into a group of Nazis, every single Leftist on the internet would be celebrating. Never forget!

  12. incoherent rambler

    the path towards legalising polygamy.

    The sooner it is legalized the better.
    I need polygumy to keep my dentures in place.

  13. Snoopy

    Fortunately the ADF. police and emergency services recruitment targets will be offset by recruitment targets in teaching, childcare, nursing and public administration.

  14. Fisky

    It’s fair enough to call for the car driver to be prosecuted. He did after all technically commit a crime. But if we throw him in jail, what’s to stop more such drivers popping up elsewhere? We will never prevail over drivers until we address the root causes.

  15. Makka

    mUnty : None of which excuses all of you from trying to deflect from the news of the day,

    … which is that mUnty is a zero value leftist moron and has zero credibility.

  16. Fisky

    LOL!

    Mike Cernovich 🇺🇸‏Verified account @Cernovich 8s8 seconds ago
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    Flashback – Obama: ‘Very Hard to Untangle’ Dallas Shooter’s Motive

  17. Stimpson J. Cat

    None of which excuses all of you from trying to deflect from the news of the day, which is that a Nazi rally in America culminated in a white Republican committing a murderous act of terrorism against a defenceless woman.

    Jesus Christ Monty.
    Have you actually read my posts,
    you bloated sack of protoplasm?
    JC take him to lunch for f$cks sake.
    His brain won’t work properly without sustenance.
    No dessert as punishment for his ridiculousness.
    Don’t enable him.

  18. Here’s a handy little equaliser if the next social gathering you go to gets overrun by peaceful SJW Safe Sschoolers!
    Giggle handheld cattleprod.

  19. Fergus

    Riccardo, just did a web search. Maybe this lot will keep those stats. Don’t know who they release them to.
    https://www.griffith.edu.au/health/australian-institute-suicide-research-prevention/research

  20. alexnoaholdmate

    No no thats the reality. These terrorist attacks are Gladio 2.0. This is a fact. Anyone who says otherwise is a ridiculous liar. Even from a physics point of view.

    This really is a cracking good read.

    Fascinating stuff.

    “From a physics point of view”, no less. Whatever that means. Just glorious.

  21. OldOzzie

    For those enjoying Lunch – BoDivas makes the Beachtail, ‘sexy charms for the bikini crotch’

    A JAPANESE company has come up with the Beachtail — an uncomfortable looking piece of jewellery that you can hang off your bikini bottoms.

    BoDivas, based in Tokyo, call the jewellery “very original” (sure) and “classy” (hmmm).

    The chains contain gems that hang down from your legs and can also be worn with underwear, G-strings and shorts, as well as bikini briefs.

  22. Snoopy

    It’s curious that the further the US civil war fades into history, the more insulting any trace of it becomes to the left.

    If our WWII vets had held the same mindset our streets in the 70’s and 80’s would have been a conflagration of burning Toyotas and Nissans.

  23. Keep dancing for the court, Fisky.

  24. db, I find it hard to credit your compassion towards babies when you would support taking healthcare away from poor mothers to support your political views, which would be a far worse outcome for many babies, including many without the congenital defects involved in those edge cases.

    Non sequitur alert. BTW, I’ve never supported poor mothers or their children being denied health care.

  25. Fisky

    Mother of the car attacker is responding to media inquiries. She is called “Samantha Bloom”. Or perhaps that should be (((Samantha Bloom)))!

  26. rickw

    Have you forgotten the weight of equipment we used to lug around? I guess it’s been a while for both of us but these days, depending on the type of job, its location, tempo and duration, I reckon the lads would be carrying anything between 30-60kg, when you include weapon, ammunition, helmet, body armour, comms, mission specific specialist kit, water and rations.

    Riccardo,

    This is a true story from ADA.

    The standard issue body armour had to be re-designed with a quick release mechanism. It had been found that if GI Jane fell face first in a couple of inches of water, with full kit, she could drown because she did not have the physical strength to get up again.

    Thus a quick release mechanism was designed. The next problem from there was that GI Jane did not have the physical strength to pull the toggle, because when the release mechanism filaments got wet, they became sticky and the force to operate went up.

    Fucking absurd.

  27. OldOzzie

    Andrew Forrest says the Greens are the ‘party for paedophiles’ for not supporting the cashless debit card

    BILLIONAIRE Andrew ‘Twiggy’ Forrest has labelled the Greens “the party for paedophiles” for failing to support a cashless debit card for welfare recipients.

    Mr Forrest has long supported such a card believing it would stop welfare payments being spent on drugs and alcohol. This week he travelled to Canberra to show Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull and Opposition Leader Bill Shorten CCTV footage of unconscious children being assaulted.

    The Greens refused to attend the screening for reasons Mr Forrest dubbed “human rights horsesh*t”.

    “I have to hold the Greens accountable here; the Greens might as well be the party for paedophiles, the party for child sex abusers — you’re the party of human rights and you’ve forgotten the human rights of children, just call yourself the party for paedophiles,” he said, according to Fairfax Media. “While we play politics, Bill Shorten, Malcolm Turnbull, the cross benches, kids are dying and the instant someone plays politics, you literally consign another life to being molested, to being abused, to being kept from school, or worse, committing suicide.”

    “I’m asking the Prime Minister and the leader of the Opposition to put wedge politics aside and come out and strongly back the little children in vulnerable communities, because quite literally, while Australia dithers on this, children are dying,” he said. “I want the government to listen to the communities. Governments are flat out listening to everyone else from the community from academics, to green politicians to people who don’t go to these communities, don’t care about these communities, and reckon they’re an authority on them, whereas we should just give the cashless debit card to those communities who are begging for it.”

  28. Snoopy

    It had been found that if GI Jane fell face first in a couple of inches of water, with full kit, she could drown because she did not have the physical strength to get up again.

    Maybe the kit should include a snorkel?

  29. srr

    No alexblahblah –

    alexnoaholdmate
    #2467207, posted on August 13, 2017 at 10:47 am

    Monty is the house Lefty; srr is the house crank.

    We need them both.

    See, here you are doing what all the typical Stasi-esque ‘othering’ posters do; like m0nty continuing with that ridiculous, failed from the get go, “USSR” tag (that he got from his beloved, JC, and so just can’t let it go 😉 ), you are simply repeating the base old, ‘repeat a lie long enough’, Communist codswallop.

    Now why do posters do that all the time, when most of my posts are simply of things of interest being reported around the world, for anyone to consider or not?

    Because it’s important to professional narrative controllers to grab control of all news, before people start forming their own, honest and enlightening opinions; get people in the habit of scrolling past anything I post and ignoring the topic, at least until subject is served up an ‘approved opinion giver’, along with an ‘approved opinion’.

    It’s a very old tactic, because it’s so effective at herding crazy, skittish, cats ……………… 🙂

  30. OldOzzie

    OldOzzie
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    #2467331, posted on August 13, 2017 at 12:50 pm

    OldOzzie
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    #2467337, posted on August 13, 2017 at 12:54 pm

    Pourquoi? – both are Daily Telegraph Articles

  31. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    If our WWII vets had held the same mindset our streets in the 70’s and 80’s would have been a conflagration of burning Toyotas and Nissans.

    My one time father in law was a POW on the Burma railway. It was the early 1980’s before he would buy a Japanese car.

  32. alexnoaholdmate

    Any such attacks have to be considered fake until proven real.

    I bet three thousand Americans incinerated at the World Trade Centre probably thought the attacks were real enough.

    But we all know (((who))) was really behind that, don’t we Bird…?

    The League of the Unattached Foreskin!

  33. Baldrick

    Riccardo Bosi
    #2467190, posted on August 13, 2017 at 10:27 am

    Great letter Riccardo. Seems the hierarchy of the Army and Google have a lot more in common than people think.

  34. rickw


    Monty is the house Lefty; srr is the house crank.

    Alex, with due respect,

    I can get munty’s leftists boilerplate anywhere (and usually done way better), in contrast you can’t get srr anywhere else.

  35. miltonf

    Fifield in 2006

    MP fights to let women in close combat

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    WOMEN should be able to perform close military combat roles if they meet the same eligibility criteria as demanded of men, the Victorian Liberal senator Mitch Fifield says.

    Writing for The Party Room, a Liberal Party periodical which he co-publishes with the federal MP Andrew Robb, Senator Fifield says the Australian Defence Force is the one organisation which still discriminates against women.

    Reconsidering the argument about women in combat had added currency given the military had trouble meeting recruitment targets and was also undergoing an expansion, he says.

    In August, the Prime Minister, John Howard, announced a plan to increase the army’s strength by two battalions of 2600 soldiers, which was in addition to a separate recruitment drive to enlist another 1500 personnel.

    To help meet the targets, the Government has proposed dropping recruitment standards.

    “Weight, minor medical conditions, former drug use and body art may no longer be disqualifications,” Senator Fifield says. “Soon, overweight, asthmatic, tattooed, former cannabis smoking men may be eligible for ADF service, while women … will remain ineligible for combat roles.”

    He says women should not be excluded on the basis of their gender but be entitled to test themselves against the criteria required for combat.

    “Suitability for ADF roles should be entirely competency based. Merit should be the only criteria,” Senator Fifield says. “If no women ever serve in direct combat roles because they fail to meet the required standard, I will be surprised but content.

    “It’s not the lack of women in combat roles that should be troubling, but the denial of opportunity.”

    Women can already serve in 87 per cent of the jobs the military offers but not in direct combat. Jobs considered off limits include clearance divers, airfield defence guards, which is the equivalent of air force infantry, artillery, armour, combat engineers and infantry.

    Senator Fifield said it was strange women that were excluded in this way when the Defence Force was keen to attract more women, even announcing it would sponsor the Women’s National Basketball League.

    But Neil James, the executive director of the Australian Defence Association, said that allowing women in combat was as silly as suggesting they should be able to play for the Wallabies.

    “Top-line contact sports are full of men because in nine out of 10 fights, the woman would lose and it’s unfair to put them in that situation,” he said.

    The Australian military led the world in the roles it offered women but there were some jobs they should not do, such as close-contact killing.

    “The principle involved is that females are not employed in units where the prime purpose of the unit, most of the time, is direct combat in an up-close-and-personal sense,” Mr James said.

    Women were already eligible to kill people from afar, such as from ships or aircraft. They also filled roles which contained a risk they may have to fight, such as driving supply vehicles for combat units.

    Mr James said those claiming it was a gender issue should also note that most of the US female personnel captured in the 1991 Gulf War were raped or sexually assaulted.

    “The types of people we tend to fight are not those who make allowances for our sensitivity to gender equality issues,” he said.

  36. Stimpson J. Cat

    Or perhaps that should be (((Samantha Bloom)))!

    [[[Too soon Fisky. ]]]®

  37. Fisky

    But we all know (((who))) was really behind that, don’t we Bird…?

    You won’t believe it, Alex, but the mother of the car attacker is one of (((those people))). Which according to the Halakha, means…

  38. alexnoaholdmate

    I can get munty’s leftists boilerplate anywhere (and usually done way better), in contrast you can’t get srr anywhere else.

    True dat.

  39. Fisky

    You know, it’s possible this car attack is a false flag. Or even that the attacker is really a radical Leftist. We just don’t have the details yet. And if people jump to conclusions, this would be very unhelpful and could only add to the feelings of alienation that terrorism draws upon.

  40. Baldrick

    Strange how TheirABC never require a denunciation from Imams after an attack by Presbyterian nuns.

    ABC News ✔ @abcnews
    Suspect charged with murder at white supremacist rally, Trump urged to denounce ‘terror attack’

  41. Robert Mc

    handheld cattleprod

    Used to punish the girls in The Handmaids Tale.

  42. alexnoaholdmate

    You won’t believe it, Alex, but the mother of the car attacker is one of (((those people))). Which according to the Halakha, means…

    “Buy stocks in parentheses,” they told me when I was young.

    But I didn’t listen. I knew better.

    What a fool I was!

  43. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    “The types of people we tend to fight are not those who make allowances for our sensitivity to gender equality issues,” he said.

    It’s what happens when you go to war with the most feminist of religions, surely?

  44. If I had thought up a parody sock puppet to illustrate the hypocrisy of the right at times like these, Fisky, I’d be posting exactly the same material as you. Bravo, I recognise good trolling.

  45. Fisky

    So a J-wish car attacker has just run over a bunch of radical Leftists, and right-wingers are being blamed. Does that sound right to you? I think it’s very suspect!

  46. rickw

    Defending Nazi terrorists means you are not on the side of the good guys.

    I take it that munty is still a strong supporter of BLM and the race baiter Obama?

  47. Fisky

    Justin Raimondo‏ @JustinRaimondo 10s10 seconds ago
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    This says he was “going to an alt-right rally” – but what for? IN support? In opposition? Curiosity?

  48. Stimpson J. Cat

    Just the good ol’ goys
    Never meanin’ no harm
    Beats all you ever saw
    Been in trouble with the law
    Since the day they was born
    Straigh’nin’ the curve
    Flat’nin’ the hills
    Someday the mountains might get ’em
    But the law never will
    Makin’ their way
    The only way they know how
    That’s just a little bit more
    Than the law will allow
    I’m a good ol’ goy
    You know my momma loves me
    But she don’t understand
    They keep a showin’ my hands
    And not my face on TV
    Just the good ol’ goys
    Never meanin’ no harm
    Beats all you ever saw
    Been in trouble with the law
    Since the day they was born

  49. rickw


    So a J-wish car attacker has just run over a bunch of radical Leftists, and right-wingers are being blamed. Does that sound right to you? I think it’s very suspect!

    FMD! A J-w that can correctly identify which group poses the greatest threat to their continued existence!

  50. Fisky

    Independent-minded Leftist and award-winning journalist John Pilger, on the Deep State’s attempted coup against Trump –

    “There is a rolling coup attempt against the President of the United States at the moment, there’s no question about that,” Pilger responded. “They want him out. All the major pillars of power in the United States, plus the Democratic Party, plus most of the media, want Trump out.”

    “If you take away that whole NATO-backed circus, serious circus, which has lined up on Russia’s Western border – a completely threatening presence of NATO forces on the very borderland through which Hitler invaded the Soviet Union in 1941 – if you take that away then what happens to the great armaments companies, the producers of the F-35, the Lockheed Martin, Raytheon…,” Pilger surmised.

    https://www.rt.com/op-edge/399420-trump-coup-deep-state-pilger/

  51. Snoopy

    Would a real right winger deliberately total a Dodge Charger?

  52. Fisky

    FMD! A J-w that can correctly identify which group poses the greatest threat to their continued existence!

    That’s a good point. He’s onto the so called “Left”. He knows that they are itching to put good people like him in the gas chambers. So that explains his unfortunate actions. Still, it doesn’t mean that mainstream conservatives should be blamed for it.

  53. Chris

    srr,
    May I encourage you?
    Despite my longstanding policy of tldr, scroll-on-by, I note that you yourself seem a decent person, and a substantial part of what you post appears not to be rubbish. I rarely click through video links because bandwidth and time do not permit, usually.

    Can I suggest that you don’t need to take criticism personally. Its the nature of your message that people will respond to with hostility sometimes, and you will enjoy things more if you just accept that.

    All the best!

  54. C.L.

    Settle down, Monty.
    The groups instigated by the Democrats – Occupy, BLM – killed dozens of people.
    The Democrat terrorist wing, the KKK, had a loyalist third-in-line to the presidency as recently as 2010.

  55. Gab

    So a J-wish car attacker has just run over a bunch of radical Leftists, and right-wingers are being blamed.

    A muslim does the same and the media and “social” commentators are all “lone wolf”, “don’t blame the whole “race” “, “mental issues” etc etc. But that doesn’t apply and it’s all “everyone on the Right is responsible and they’re all evil” etc etc

  56. notafan

    Great stuff fisky

    Also have to love multiple poor pitiful me posts by the victim in residence who just spent two whole days attacking OCO

    And sad sad birdman still living in his alternate reality awaiting his ritual smoting.

  57. A Lurker

    Just about sen it all now. A spokesman for “Muslims for Marriage Equality” bing interviewed on Sky. Then again, legalising homosexual marriage is just a step along the path towards legalising polygamy.

    Legalisation of incest after that (after all, with birth control, all the problems regarding birth abnormalities goes away) – followed by the reduction in the age of consent.

  58. alexnoaholdmate

    At the end of the day, you have to believe that a J e w was sympathising with – and acting to support – a group of people that had swastika tatts on their arms.

    I just don’t find that likely, myself.

  59. Snoopy

    Sorry, Dodge Challenger. Even less likely.

  60. Fisky

    At the end of the day, you have to believe that a J e w was sympathising with – and acting to support – a group of people that had swastika tatts on their arms.

    I just don’t find that likely, myself.

    It’s all very mysterious, Alex. What we do know for sure is that Uncle George was pulling the strings behind the stage, funding all sides including the police.

  61. srr

    Here’s a headline m0nty would approve of

    …GOV. MCAULIFFE ‘NO PLACE IN AMERICA’ FOR ALT-RIGHT,
    REFUSES TO CONDEMN ANTIFA…

    … and some more …

    …LEFT ORGANIZES…

    …’F*CK THE POLICE’: ANTIFA PROTESTERS TURN ON COPS…

    …INEVITABLE: CELEBRITIES MELT DOWN, BLAME TRUMP…

    … of course, celbs don’t blame the Pro-Antifa Gov or anyone in That State actually responsible for policing and security … so yeah, lets just tear down all the walls between the civilised, law abiding, the Animal Left, and The Traitorous Left who refuse to police the paid and organised violent rioters …

    ACTIVIST GROUPS PROTEST TRUMP’S BORDER WALL IN TEXAS

  62. Baldrick

    Tim finally finds some extremists he can group and label together:

    Tim Soutphommasane @timsout
    Disturbing developments in the US – what can happen when licence is given to extremist white supremacism

  63. Marcus Classis

    m0nty
    #2467275, posted on August 13, 2017 at 12:02 pm
    The driver of the car, a 20-year-old white ex-military Republican called James Fields of Ohio, has been charged with second-degree murder.

    Pity anyone died, but if someone had to die best that it was a totalitarian type or a ‘Anti-First Amendment’ Sturmarbeitelung brownshirt, reaping as they have spent so many years sowing.

    Okay, so far we have Cats blaming the following people for today’s murderous Nazi terrorism:
    – (lying/ yammerheading/ whining)

    People not blamed by Cats for today’s murderous Nazi terrorism, in fact defended by Cats:
    – Nazis

    SO you are saying that there were two groups of socialists here, fighting each other? National Socialists and International Socialists?

    Interesting! If so, may they mutually annihilate each other – but “Monty ALWAYS lies” so I checked. There were known KKK (the purest form of left-wing racist), known ‘neonazi’ (a loose definition but they are socialists), street toughs out for a punch-up, American nationalists (mix of all colours of skin), some pissed off locals who like Virginia’s most famous and beloved son Robert E Lee, no known ‘white supremacists’ (this term now has no meaning anyway as anyone opposed to the extreme left-wing totalitarians is described by them using this term), far-left ‘Resistance’ (Stalinists, Trots, Socialist Alliance etc), extemist anarchists and the vile anti-First Amendment (antiFA) far-left wing wannabe street thugs. These the majority, too, an the instigators of all the known violence.

    Turns out there were not two blocs at all, there were at least four, three left wing and all of them mutually hostile.

    SO yes, Monty lied yet again.

    I am sure everyone’s not surprised by this. Every time there’s a massacre/ terrorist act in the USA Monty howl that it had to have been a “white ex-military Republican”, and it routinely turns out to be a mohammedan terrorist or a socialist.

    The video by ‘Anarcho-Khomeinist’ (a twee pun, but certainly indicating his love of totalitarian death-ideologies) is unintentionally hilarious. Watching these violent totalitarian thugs being hoist on their own violent petard is one thing, actually hilarious is their screaming outrage that the police did not protect them from the inevitable consequences of their own actions.

    In this case, ‘sympathy’ is a word in the dictionary in between ‘shit’ and ‘syphilis’. Scum fought vermin.

    I feel sympathy only for the police (two of whom died) having to control the sewer-rats of the left who’s actions have caused all the violence.

    it’s also a Rubicon moment when considered with the antiFA exteme-left Berkely bike-lock killer. The next guy (almost certainly it will be a socialist) is going to think ‘they got caught, I need to be smarter and hose down a crowd of them with gunfire’.

  64. Fisky

    Not a bad take.

    Social Justice Warriors drive out dissent at Google. Antifa attacks small businesses. White supremacists run over and kill in Charlottesville. Black Lives Matter activists shut down intersections. Gay rights activists shut down florists and bakers. The Resistance marches. All of these things are happening for the same reason. The left and right in protest and fight are just two heads of a common coin.

    They are doing these things because they are trying to build moral responses to the uncertainty of Western civilizational truths becoming uncertain. As the West leaves God behind, with His absence is a vacuum into which competing parties try to become, in Arthur Leff’s terminology, the new Grand Sez Who. In the absence of God, only the mob sez who. Government itself in the West is arranged under the rubric of a divine Creator allowing the people to form governments premised on ensuring and protecting divinely given rights. Without a Creator, we create our own worlds positing ourselves and those who agree with us as the just and the other as evil.

    With the collapse of shared Christian values in the West, the world is descending into natural law where survival of the fittest reigns supreme. But survival of the fittest is incompatible with people because, though we may not believe it, we are actually created in the image of God. We have dwelling within us the spark of the divine that provides a universal morality. We may do our best to repress it, but in that repression it channels itself in different ways.

    http://theresurgent.com/what-the-heck-is-happening-in-america-let-me-explain/?utm_content=bufferfcdf2&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

  65. Stimpson J. Cat

    Lorde @lorde
    i just want to say i’m so, so sorry. all white people are responsible for this system’s thrive and fall. we have to do better. i’m sorry
    8:28 AM · Aug 13, 2017

    It begins…

  66. Marcus Classis

    Who is this ‘Raymond Francis’ fruitloop?

    Bird?

  67. alexnoaholdmate

    I’m sure if Obama had a son he’d be just like Bird.

  68. Stimpson J. Cat

    Joss Whedon
    Joss Whedon @joss
    6h
    The U.S. president is afraid to anger Nazis. And Russians. To be fair, they ARE the people who elected him #maga #manysides #manchurian

  69. Makka

    At the end of the day, you have to believe that a J e w was sympathising with – and acting to support – a group of people that had swastika tatts on their arms.

    alex, 75% of j3wish voters backed Hillary. They are as dumb as rocks and committed, for decades, to leftist supremacy. It goes back a long way, before WW2. Don’t think for a second that a false flag event in this case isn’t possible.

  70. Eddystone

    Tim Soutphommasane @timsout
    Disturbing developments in the US – what can happen when licence is given to extremist white supremacism

    Seriously?

    The guy is a moron.

  71. Stimpson J. Cat

    Matt McDermott @mattmfm
    Aug 12
    That hundreds of Nazis can take to the streets torches ablaze, with no ramifications, is literally the definition of white privilege.

  72. alexnoaholdmate

    The U.S. president is afraid to anger Nazis. And Russians. To be fair, they ARE the people who elected him #maga #manysides #manchurian

    Good. Let’s get it on the record.

    According to Hollywood, if you voted for Trump you are a Nazi. There it is, in writing.

    Don’t stop, Joss. You and your ilk are guaranteeing four more years.

  73. Interesting! If so, may they mutually annihilate each other – but “Monty ALWAYS lies” so I checked. There were known KKK (the purest form of left-wing racist), known ‘neonazi’ (a loose definition but they are socialists), street toughs out for a punch-up, American nationalists (mix of all colours of skin), some pissed off locals who like Virginia’s most famous and beloved son Robert E Lee, no known ‘white supremacists’ (this term now has no meaning anyway as anyone opposed to the extreme left-wing totalitarians is described by them using this term), far-left ‘Resistance’ (Stalinists, Trots, Socialist Alliance etc), extemist anarchists and the vile anti-First Amendment (antiFA) far-left wing wannabe street thugs. These the majority, too, an the instigators of all the known violence.

    Yeah righto, Laserjet. When you redefine anybody who doesn’t fit your narrative as leftist, you can build up quite a big lie. None of it corresponds to reality, though.

  74. Stimpson J. Cat

    Wajahat Ali @WajahatAli
    22h
    Angry men, dislocated from society, radicalized online, embraced by a community, promised glory & honor. Not ISIS, see #Charlottesville

  75. Nick

    The guy is a moron.

    Asian guy tests missiles, threatens others and it’s the ‘white’ guy singled out ?
    Soupandasarnie is the racist.

  76. Makka

    Yeah righto, Laserjet.

    Lol. JC’s mini-me. Zero value but, mUnty.

  77. Fisky

    Mike Cernovich 🇺🇸‏Verified account
    @Cernovich
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    I literally went to the White House to ask the media to disavow poltical violence.

    They laughed.

  78. alexnoaholdmate

    My point, Makka, is that if the driver IS Jewish, I find the narrative of “Neo-Nazis massacre innocent antifa protesters” a bit unlikely.

    Because I doubt there’d be many J e w ish Neo-Nazis, myself.

  79. Farmer Gez

    So Pilger reckons that NATO on the border is a threat to Russia similar to Hitler in 1941.
    That would be the border used by Russia to invade Poland prior to 41.
    Good to see Pilger keeping up the poor work.

  80. srr

    But Monty criticises srr for believing it’s a case of goodies versus baddies while holding the exact same view.

    Sad thing is, it’s a lie. I didn’t call it for any side.

    This was my first post on Charlettesville –

    srr
    #2467055, posted on August 13, 2017 at 6:10 am

    The Beer Whisperer
    #2467052, posted on August 13, 2017 at 5:29 am
    Reported car attack on leftist supporters in Charlottesville. No reported deaths at this stage but many injuries.

    Leftists claiming it’s the work of nazis, but other reports of alt-right marchers being dispersed while Antifa and BLM allowed to continue while being given no alternative exit than to drive through crowd.

    Facts yet to surface, but you can bet your arse that the Left will escalate to destroy dissent and dox anyone who doesn’t toe the line. This is going to another level now, just like we all said.

    One Dead.

    19 Injured.

    White driver arrested.

    0HOUR1 best thread to follow –

    https://twitter.com/__0HOUR1_

    Read that thread of 0HOUR1’s, and also scroll down from my first post –

    http://catallaxyfiles.com/2017/08/12/open-forum-august-12-2017/comment-page-4/#comment-2467055

    You’ll find my comments like these –

    Google has removed the full video of the Veteran’s Affairs Choice announcement he was set to make when this news broke from my history and search results, so here’s just the Charlottesville statement –

    Here’s a shorter, laggy one, the original still MIA – Google must hate that Trump is a President who can walk and chew gum at the same time, and cares to speak against violence intended to divide the country, and give his fellow Americans real reasons to see, believe in and work for a peaceful, prosperous united America – unlike Obama and Co. who always used these acts of violence to stir up more violence 👿 –

    Melania Trump‏Verified account @FLOTUS 6h6 hours ago

    Our country encourages freedom of speech, but let’s communicate w/o hate in our hearts. No good comes from violence. #Charlottesville

    … and yet people still seem to want believe the lies constantly told about me here, even when they come from the cat’s ultimate Wrongologist, m0nty and others who cherish him as the cat’s pet.

    Sad.

  81. Baldrick

    Rhys Muldoon weighs into the white supremacist debate with a very strange version of history:

    Rhys Muldoon ✔ @rhysam
    And they forget that when the statue topples it’ll perfectly reenact Lee himself, who was regularly so drunk he’d fall off his horse.

  82. Fisky

    So Pilger reckons that NATO on the border is a threat to Russia similar to Hitler in 1941.
    That would be the border used by Russia to invade Poland prior to 41.
    Good to see Pilger keeping up the poor work.

    Pilger has probably been on the Russian payroll for decades, but if changed geopolitical circumstances make an ally of him, we should welcome that!

  83. Marcus Classis

    Myreddin: If the only way for a bloke to get in to the clearance divers is to tick the ‘First Nations’ box, then we are at most a year away from SAS and Commandoes being ‘diversified’.

    Unlikely in the extreme. I have never heard of a TSI in the ADF. Might be a handful, of course. Met some bloody brilliant full-blood aborigines in the ADF.

    TSIs have a welfare mindset and get paid to sit on their dates, sink piss, shag their sisters/daughters and go fishing.

    Been to TI and talked to some local businessmen. They NEVER get TSI applicants to any job except check out chick, and you cannot employ them there as they won’t charge their wantoks for groceries. The joint seems to run on bloody backpackers and non-TSI locals. It’s entirely subsidised by the good old taxpayer.

  84. Sothposuminsane is a publically funded $300,000 a year moron

  85. Makka

    Spit it out Birdie/Raymond. Who then is responsible?

  86. Fisky

    Very good!

    Porter‏ @porter14159 5h5 hours ago
    More
    It’s always 1930s Germany on the left. But never
    1529 Vienna
    1804 Haiti
    1917 Russia
    1933 Ukraine
    1960 China
    1977 Cambodia
    2017 Venezuela

  87. Fergus

    Timmy should be taking a swipe at the Antifa with the home made flame throwers too. A’holes v a’holes.

  88. Stimpson J. Cat

    [email protected] Aug 10
    #Kony2020

  89. alexnoaholdmate

    And they forget that when the statue topples it’ll perfectly reenact Lee himself, who was regularly so drunk he’d fall off his horse.

    Lee never touched the stuff:

    “I like whiskey. I always did, and that is why I never drink it.”

    It was Grant that used to be rolling-in-the-aisles drunk (though that’s a myth too. He was never drunk during a battle).

    This is a stuff-up of Monty-esque proportions. Wonder what Custer drank at the Alamo…?

  90. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Rhys Muldoon ✔ @rhysam
    And they forget that when the statue topples it’ll perfectly reenact Lee himself, who was regularly so drunk he’d fall off his horse.

    Considering Robert E Lee didn’t drink, and the jury is still out on U.S. Grant, who was supposed ONCE to have have fallen off his horse while under the influence, Muldoon does, indeed have a very strange view of history.

  91. Fisky

    Sean Spicier‏ @sean_spicier 2h2 hours ago
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    Obviously the driver in Charlottesville is a lone wolf that doesn’t represent any particular group and is only really looking for a job

  92. srr

    btw, while some are still trying to push the, “Blame the ‘Nazi/KKK’ Trumpers” lie –

    That Professional Hypnotist is at it again, finally coming out to “blame Trump”, while hypnotically dropping a whole bunch of, ‘KKK, he was too slow to disavow the KKK’, mind bending bullshit.

    Now that guy, I did call out as a baddie, from the get go.

  93. Marcus Classis

    Got him!

    m0nty
    #2467392, posted on August 13, 2017 at 1:36 pm

    (It’s like shooting fish in a barrel)

    While you are frothing with rage, Monty of the oh-so-many rakes, how about you explain about your support FGM, rape, enslavement, cultural destruction and the rule of violent criminal mohammedan warlord gangs: why you did not go to Malmo, and how come Twostix reckons you were plagiarising stuff from the Atlantic back in 22 July 16?

    Been asking you this for MONTHS. You just crap yourself and change teh subject.

    Why is that?

  94. Snoopy

    Unlikely in the extreme. I have never heard of a TSI in the ADF.

    Really? C Company 51 FNQR? Some in the RAN as well.

  95. Had ANTIFA not attempted to disrupt the rally, the day would have proceeded peacefully.

  96. calli

    Would a Twitter Cat kindly correct that idiot Muldoon? Preferably with a weaponised cluebat?

    Ta.

  97. rickw

    Not a scary situation at all. A relaxing drive amongst peaceful citizens. Nothing to be afraid of.

    I can almost hear the wailing already from when he gets acquitted.

  98. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    It was Grant that used to be rolling-in-the-aisles drunk (though that’s a myth too. He was never drunk during a battle).

    Grant drank when he was bored – he could go months without a single drink, and his grandson admitted in his memoirs that both his father and grandfather “had no head for hard liquor.”

  99. egg_

    Rhys Muldoon weighs into the white supremacist debate with a very strange version of history:

    Rhys Muldoon ✔ @rhysam
    And they forget that when the statue topples it’ll perfectly reenact Lee himself, who was regularly so drunk he’d fall off his horse.

    Rhys should stick to being ‘a prop with dialogue’.

  100. USSR, I would take your comments more seriously if they weren’t 100% support for Trump who, like you, has failed to criticise the right in favour of this “on many sides” rubbish. And use it as a pretext to attack Obama and Google, as if they had anything to do with that terrorist killing today.

    Remember when you lot were all of a tizz about Obama not mouthing the words “radical Islamic terrorism”, as if that was a magic spell that would make everything alright? And now Trump won’t name or criticise white supremacists, Nazis, and others of his supporters who commit violence at a pro-Trump rally. Your hypocrisy is complete.

  101. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Would a Twitter Cat kindly correct that idiot Muldoon? Preferably with a weaponised cluebat?

    I’ll second that, calli. Robert E Lee deserves better then that bollocks.

  102. alexnoaholdmate

    Grant drank when he was bored – he could go months without a single drink, and his grandson admitted in his memoirs that both his father and grandfather “had no head for hard liquor.”

    He seems to have drunk only when out of action. He desperately – desperately – missed his wife as well, and didn’t play around, a bit of a rarity for a man with power and opportunity.

    Quite touching.

    I’m not on Twitter, though, so I’ll leave it to you to set our friend Rhys straight.

  103. but Australian politicians are so hopeless it looks like they can be bought for a trip to Europe, free coffee mug and a pat on the head.

    Does the mug have to come with a logo?
    Asking for a friend.

  104. calli

    has failed to criticise the right in favour of this “on many sides” rubbish

    The Antifa guys hardly appeared at the Charlotte march in order to sit quietly and crochet charity squares.

  105. srr

    Makka
    #2467233, posted on August 13, 2017 at 11:11 am

    I see pea brained mUnty is expressing his outrage by Charlottesville events. Like, totally Outraged!

    Yet, strangely continues his silence about his support for the daily slaughter of defenceless babies. Hoping his raging hypocrisy will go unnoticed?

    Of course!

    Lets not talk about that. Lets respect Lenore Taylor’s orders to not talk about that.

    People might get around to this part of the conversation we aren’t allowed to have –

    Why should tax payers pay for women to have their babies murdered at full term, when the women and medicos can let them stay alive and make a fortune selling them, on the about to boom, ‘Gay Married Couples’ Market.

  106. Fisky

    Rockileaks‏ @notwokieleaks 14m14 minutes ago
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    Replying to @notwokieleaks
    Can we talk honestly for a second- what was antifa’s goal with the “punch a Nazi, violence is good” stuff? What did they want to accomplish?

  107. val majkus

    the latest on the most important issue of the week in Aust (from the Oz)

    Senior Liberal Josh Frydenberg won’t be drawn on how many same-sex marriage postal votes need to be returned to make it legitimate.

    The cabinet minister supports same-sex marriage and will be encouraging as many people as possible in his electorate to participate in the postal survey and vote “yes”.

    But unlike swimming legend Ian Thorpe, he won’t be joining a national campaign.

    “When it comes to my broader position in terms of campaigning on this issue, I have bigger fish to fry and that is energy policy and that will be my priority in the weeks and the months ahead,” Mr Frydenberg told Sky News on Sunday.

    It was an issue important to a lot of people but he said it was unclear what sort of response could be expected.

    Shadow attorney-general Mark Dreyfus hopes the return is more than 50 per cent.

    “It’s not going to have much worth if it’s only 10 per cent or 15 per cent of people participating,” he told ABC TV.

    Same-sex marriage advocate Christine Forster hopes with a culture of compulsory voting there will be a solid turnout.

    As for the result itself, a 51-49 outcome would leave the country in a “grey area”.

    The City of Sydney Liberal councillor and sister of former prime minister Tony Abbott hit out at arguments from opponents of same-sex marriage that legalising it would lead to bakers getting in trouble for refusing to make a cake for a gay wedding.

    That was just scaremongering, Ms Forster said.

    “If the law is changed so that same-sex marriage is legal in this country then people will have to acknowledge that, they will have to accept that if it’s the law,” she told Sky News.

    The postal survey faces two High Court challenges, and Mr Dreyfus believed it was a 50/50 chance it would get the nod of approval.

    If the survey returns a “no” vote, the government won’t bring a private bill on the matter to parliament.

    But Mr Dreyfus insisted Labor, if successful at the next election, would still pursue same-sex marriage.

    “It’s Labor policy, it’s clear Labor policy,” he said.

    Ms Forster said it would open a “real can of worms” for Labor if there was a resounding “no” vote.

    “That’s my worst nightmare, is we wake up … with a strong no vote because both sides of politics, all sides of politics would struggle with that given Australian federal elections are decided on a handful of marginal seats,” she said.

  108. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I’m not on Twitter, though, so I’ll leave it to you to set our friend Rhys straight.

    I’m not on twitter either, but if any Cat could set Muldoon straight, I would be obliged.

  109. Fisky

    Good to see the President of the Anti-Defamation League calling out both sides. The morons who normalised political violence on the Left, are very much co-owners of this. And J-ws have particularly good reason to prop their antennae up when people start calling for their political enemies to be assaulted.

  110. Makka

    I’m warming to the notion that mUnty’s leftist scum herd actually invited the poor driving displayed at Charlottesville. Although incidents like this do have to be properly investigated to ensure that no logical reason is overlooked, such as ; brake failure, steering failure, driver distraction or health issues, movements by stupid pedestrians , weather events , road environment and such.

  111. Baldrick

    Ba1drick🇦🇺 @Ba1drick
    Replying to @rhysam
    “I like whiskey. I always did, and that is why I never drink it.” – General Robert E Lee.

    With thanks to alexnoaholdmate for the quote.

  112. Top Ender

    Custer drank brandy at the Alamo.

    I have it on good authority. As a former naval officer I knew Nelson personally, and he told me he and Custer used to get sozzled together, along with Richard the Lionheart, who was there as he liked fighting Mexicans.

  113. notafan

    Muslims don’t have a track record for false flag terrorism and have not established one in the modern era. Their heritage is one of aggression when they are able. Not false flag terrorism.

    Help me understand

    If someone commits an act of terrorism under the name of islam, it is not in the name of islam, but a false flag act, not only that right now muslims are not ‘able’ even though there are 5o odd muslim majority counties and well over a billion muslims in the world.

    I am sure that makes perfect sense, to someone.

    I’ll let my Egyptian Coptic customer know next time he comes in about the false flags and all that ‘able’ stuff.

  114. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    I see pea brained mUnty is expressing his outrage by Charlottesville events. Like, totally Outraged!

    Yet, strangely continues his silence about his support for the daily slaughter of defenceless babies. Hoping his raging hypocrisy will go unnoticed?

    must.reduce.load.on.planet.

  115. Snoopy

    Senior Liberal Josh Frydenberg won’t be drawn on how many same-sex marriage postal votes need to be returned to make it legitimate.

    The Irish plebiscite was legitimate with a turnout of 60%. Any thing from there up would be indisputable.

  116. calli

    The car-as-weapon killing is disgusting. The only excuse for it would be if the driver was set upon and panicked. It wouldn’t be the first time someone was dragged from their vehicle and throttled by the mob. I believe the driver has been charged with second degree murder.

    There may be more to come.

  117. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    With thanks to alexnoaholdmate for the quote.

    Thanks, Balders.

  118. rickw

    Does the mug have to come with a logo?
    Asking for a friend.

    We’ve been looking at Australia’s political malaise all wrong!

    Free “Cat Coffee Mugs” will fix the whole thing in 1 week flat!

    Trumbull: “Goldman Sachs mug or Catallaxy mug? Screw it! I’m going The Cat, anyone and everyone in Canberra’s got a Goldman Sachs mug!”

  119. alexnoaholdmate

    With thanks to alexnoaholdmate for the quote.

    Good man, Balders.

  120. alexnoaholdmate

    I have it on good authority. As a former naval officer I knew Nelson personally, and he told me he and Custer used to get sozzled together, along with Richard the Lionheart, who was there as he liked fighting Mexicans.

    Umm… Nelson flew a Wellington Bomber named Victory over Blenheim, Top Ender.

    Read a book. Geeze.

  121. Raymond Francis

    No major terrorist attack is perpetrated in the name of the perp. since this is militarily useless and counterproductive to any cause. Other people have been caught out with false flag attacks but not Muslims.

  122. Makka

    Root Cause analysis will show, calli.

    Until then, anyone buying mUnty’s version of events or that of the MSM should do so with care. We all know mUnty has zero credibility and the MSM has a leftist axe to grind.

  123. alexnoaholdmate

    The Irish plebiscite was legitimate with a turnout of 60%. Any thing from there up would be indisputable.

    Only because it resulted in the right answer.

    If the answer is “no”, anything less than 95% turnout will be dismissed.

    Look what happened with Brexit. Bigger turnout than the previous general election, yet apparently it was invalid and needs to held again.

  124. calli

    Here is a list for that idiot Muldoon.

    Do you think he will be sober enough to scroll down to “L”?

  125. notafan

    Oh great we have two posters today banging on about their favourite conspiracies.

    In that case I propose an alternate theory of the crime, mr sports car mistook the lefties for righties (easy mistake to make in the circumstances) and plowed into the wrong crowd.

    Either that or it was a false false flag, mr sports car having converted to islam shortly before said plowing.

    Finally

    stop complaining about car terrorism lefty muslims

    you started it.

  126. Chris

    Unlikely in the extreme. I have never heard of a TSI in the ADF.

    Really? C Company 51 FNQR? Some in the RAN as well.

    Before the ADF existed, before Federation, in 1899 Australia as a whole established two coastal defense artillery forts, at Thursday Island and Albany.
    The Thursday Island guns were supported and partly manned by TIs in wartime, and that unit held something of a record for local participation in that nearly every able-bodied TI man was a member.

  127. herodotus

    Typical BBC or ABC approach, this time it’s BBC’s Hard Talk.
    The Polish Foreign Minister is taken to task by the BBC for Poland having several policies that the EU doesn’t approve of. Pardon? The EU? Isn’t the UK leaving, exiting the EU? Why is the BBC acting as the enforcer for EU policies?

    Anyway, this week’s hard-voiced harpy virtually threatened Poland with cutting off the EU’s money flow because Poland was rejecting “migrants” it doesn’t like the look of. Bravo Poland.
    He responded that the money flow to Poland wasn’t anything reliant on refugee policy, or any other PC policy, it flowed from the commercial and economic arrangements entered into prior to this latest round of open borders.

    When taken to task by her about Poland’s internal policies like overhauling the judicial system, he pointed out that his government had been elected just 21 months ago with a good vote from the people, and that the judicial system was long overdue for a cleanup anyway. So it’s not for her to judge. Poland has a sort of post-Hulls Victoriastan judiciary.

  128. cohenite

    Far-right vs peaceful counter-protestors; and it’s all Trump’s fault. You gotta love the media.

  129. Top Ender

    NSW students brandishing knives and other weapons at school
    JACK MORPHET, EXCLUSIVE, The Sunday Telegraph

    TEACHERS are increasingly likely to get stabbed at work, as new figures show NSW students are brandishing knives at school an average of almost once a day.

    Knives are being brought out over the most trivial playground spats, like when a boy in Barwon threatened to stab to death whoever accidentally hit him with a ball.

    A boy from the Blacktown area promised to stab someone on school grounds if his social media post attracted 100 likes and 50 comments.

    Heavily redacted documents released under Right to Information laws that listed serious incidents in the second half of last school year revealed kids also brought other nondescript lethal weapons to school, including guns.

    There were eight occasions when students held knives or scissors to the throats of their schoolmates.

    While the blades were typically for show, one knife-wielding student in North Wollongong made good on his threat and actually stabbed a fellow pupil.

    It’s not just kids at risk of being stabbed; a boy in St George snatched a pair of scissors from his teacher’s desk and threatened to stab her. After the teacher “moved out of the way” the boy tried to cut through electrical cords.

    The report states the teacher “was extremely upset and shaken” and offered counselling.

    In the vast majority of cases, the harrowing task of coaxing knives out of kids’ hands or stepping between a would-be stabber and their intended victim fell to teachers and principals.

    But when a kid in Campbelltown tried to stab a boy in the playground at recess in October, it was up to the other students to wrestle the weapon off the attacker.

    Alarmingly, some kids are concealing whole armouries of knives in their bags and threatening to stab teachers when caught breaking school rules, such as getting caught red handed smoking on campus.

    And even a parent from Quakers Hill got in on the action, flailing a knife around and threatening staff, parents and students.

    There is no doubt teachers and principals are increasingly under threat, according to NSW Secondary Principals’ Council president Chris Presland.

    “We don’t expect teachers to put their lives on the line but the reality is some do and most would,” Mr Presland said.

    However, the state’s top principal was adamant schools are safe havens and rebuffed any need for US-style metal detectors on campus.

    Link

  130. Fisky, do you have any other reason for labelling Bloom as J-wish other than her name? Because that’s hardly rock solid evidence. Her Facebook doesn’t suggest anything of the sort. Looks like #fakenews.

  131. Senile Old Guy

    Same-sex marriage advocate Christine Forster hopes with a culture of compulsory voting there will be a solid turnout. As for the result itself, a 51-49 outcome would leave the country in a “grey area”. The City of Sydney Liberal councillor and sister of former prime minister Tony Abbott hit out at arguments from opponents of same-sex marriage that legalising it would lead to bakers getting in trouble for refusing to make a cake for a gay wedding. That was just scaremongering, Ms Forster said. “If the law is changed so that same-sex marriage is legal in this country then people will have to acknowledge that, they will have to accept that if it’s the law,” she told Sky News.

    The last sentence gives the game away. If it is “the law”, then people will get sued, or sent to the HRC, if they do not co-operate. The more people say things like this, the clearer it becomes that the law will be used to bash people who do not sign on to the gay marriage bandwagon.

  132. srr

    cohenite
    #2467235, posted on August 13, 2017 at 11:16 am

    val majkus

    #2467210, posted on August 13, 2017 at 10:48 am

    if you haven’t seen the GetUp article by Brad Norington here’s a bit of cut and paste

    They’re so well organised. Gramsci and Alinsky have done well in their modern incarnations. In the meantime the conservatives are disorganised, weak, full of infighting and undermined by quislings.

    Correct, but for the not so little detail of The Left also suffering from very much infighting.

    The thing is that The Left are far more ruthless at turning against and utterly destroying their own.

  133. herodotus

    I noted in that Uncommon Knowledge interview by Peter Robinson with Ayaan Hirsi Ali that she said the countries which were best resisting the new totalitarianism of the left were those eastern European ones who knew from recent experience exactly what that sort of rule looks and sounds like. Having just escaped it they are not keen to invite it back in.
    Spot on.

  134. alexnoaholdmate

    Fisky, do you have any other reason for labelling Bloom as J-wish other than her name? Because that’s hardly rock solid evidence. Her Facebook doesn’t suggest anything of the sort. Looks like #fakenews.

    Won’t somebody please think of the parentheses?

  135. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Robert E. Lee, General of Army of Northern Virginia of Confederate States of America.

    I’ll make it easy, calli. Thomas “Stonewall” Jackson cited the same reason for abstinence.

  136. rickw

    The car-as-weapon killing is disgusting. The only excuse for it would be if the driver was set upon and panicked. It wouldn’t be the first time someone was dragged from their vehicle and throttled by the mob. I believe the driver has been charged with second degree murder.

    More may come out, but my guess is that the charges will be dropped or heavily downgraded. The charges are almost certainly a political expediency, I wouldn’t put to much bearing on them.

    The only way a car helps in this situation is if it’s moving, as soon as it stops it’s virtually a cage for you that can be accessed at anytime. Hence if you are blocked by a crowd in the real world, and you fear for your safety, you have to keep going.

    (Just drove down from Nadzab, driver did a great job of “keeping it moving” regardless of traffic and road conditions.)

  137. herodotus

    Richard the Lionheart, who was there as he liked fighting Mexicans.
    Rumour has it that he liked lots of things south of the border.

  138. Tintarella di Luna

    the countries which were best resisting the new totalitarianism of the left were those eastern European ones who knew from recent experience exactly what that sort of rule looks and sounds like. Having just escaped it they are not keen to invite it back in.

    That’s for sure but The Republic of Macedonia thanks to the repulsive Soros has install a leftist at the last elections and heaven alone knows what that will bring about given that the people are dead set against any softening of borders or any installation of Muslims – they had 700 years of the Ottoman yoke and certainly do not want to take it up again for George Soros or the totalitarian EU.

  139. Geriatric Mayfly

    Dreyfus: PM is ‘unhinged’
    Mark Dreyfus says Malcolm Turnbull is “unhinged”, as he attacks the PM for “resorting to personal abuse”.

    Says the QC who phrases questions in QT ruled out of order.

  140. herodotus

    Oh, yes, the argument about a less than full turnout not giving the vote “legitimacy” didn’t matter a bit in Ireland.
    It causes endless moaning though whenever the result goes against the left.

  141. notafan

    The footage from this angle shows cars slowly driving through the crowd, then mr sports car’s vehicle possible suddenly accelerating and running into the back of the two slower moving vehicles ahead of him. There is also a still photo of the vehicle approaching the crowd who are jumping out of the way (with no one around him).

    He couldn’t possibly have thought he was escaping from a hostile crowd, could he?


    footage of the carnage

  142. H B Bear

    If the survey returns a “no” vote, the government won’t bring a private bill on the matter to parliament.
    But Mr Dreyfus insisted Labor, if successful at the next election, would still pursue same-sex marriage.
    “It’s Labor policy, it’s clear Labor policy,” he said.

    Seems there are mandates and then there are mandates. No wonder parliamentary democracy is dead in Australia.

  143. herodotus

    MT is quite clearly hinged and able to swing this way and that – mostly that.

  144. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    An artificial intelligence program just annihilated its human competition at a world championship video game contest.
    The AI win stunned the gaming community, because bots are generally considered inferior to expert human players

  145. Marcus Classis

    Shorter Monty:

    One possible righty car slams a crowd once: “All of the right are whitesupremacistracistkillers and this proves it!”

    32,000 mohammedan terrorist attacks kill 250,000 victims over 16 years: “These are mere lone individuals with mental problems and it says nothing at all about mohemmedans as a group!”

    Black Identitarian BLM movement: “Meh, nothing to see here, it’s fine and if they murder cops that’s fine, they deserve it”

    White Identitarian group forms: “racistwhitenaziwhitesupremacistnaziwhites must die!!!!”

    Titanic hypocrisy from a titanic ball of blubber.

    Here’s Faith Goldy’s report on the timeline (she was there). Well worth listening to if you have any interest in the timeline of what actually occurred.

  146. calli

    Just drove down from Nadzab, driver did a great job of “keeping it moving” regardless of traffic and road conditions.)

    Yes. I was told to do exactly the same thing in Goroka. You just can’t stop. Even in a car accident the b*stards will strip the victim of everything rather than offer first aid. Happened to a friend of mine.

  147. Chris

    MT is quite clearly hinged and able to swing this way and that – mostly that.

    Snide and below the belt. Also true.

  148. Viva

    As might have been expected, Islamic extremists have provided the template of murder by vehicle for any other crazy people out there.

    Remember what happened in Melbourne. The genie is now out of the bottle.

  149. Snoopy

    Down from Nadzab? In from Nadzab, surely?

  150. Diogenes

    Yes. I was told to do exactly the same thing in Goroka

    Crikey, on first reading I thought you said Gorokan in the beautiful Wyong Shire Central Coast – but probably still applies

  151. Chris

    Yes. I was told to do exactly the same thing in Goroka. You just can’t stop. Even in a car accident the b*stards will strip the victim of everything rather than offer first aid. Happened to a friend of mine.

    In India it is routine that a driver is beaten to death if they hit a pedestrian. GTHO and surrender at a police station.
    Horn please! And I never drive there myself.

  152. More may come out, but my guess is that the charges will be dropped or heavily downgraded. The charges are almost certainly a political expediency, I wouldn’t put to much bearing on them.

    Oh dear, rickw. That is embarrassing for you.

  153. Chris

    As might have been expected, Islamic extremists have provided the template of murder by vehicle for any other crazy people out there.

    Remember what happened in Melbourne. The genie is now out of the bottle.

    Remember the copycat mass shootings in Australia 1984-1996. The media taught and rewarded that behaviour pattern, and they are doing the same here. Activists as media partners were partly to blame.

  154. calli

    He couldn’t possibly have thought he was escaping from a hostile crowd, could he?

    Doesn’t look like it Nota.

  155. Fergus #2467328, posted on August 13, 2017 at 12:48 pm

    Riccardo, just did a web search. Maybe this lot will keep those stats. Don’t know who they release them to.
    https://www.griffith.edu.au/health/australian-institute-suicide-research-prevention/research

    Thanks Fergus, I’ll check it out.

  156. Diogenes

    TEACHERS are increasingly likely to get stabbed at work, as new figures show NSW students are brandishing knives at school an average of almost once a day.

    One of ours (ex) bought a replica pistol to school and threatened a teacher. It was a very accurate representation of a pistol, and as the boys father was the Sgt at Arms of a OMCG the teacher was utterly convinced it was real. She still suffers PTSD. It as taken off him by another member of staff, army reservist (not me) who said “I am used to having weapons at me”

  157. notafan

    That is embarrassing for you.

    says the rakemeister himself


    Monty monty monty

  158. Tom

    CNN has ditched its pollster, dumping ORC for SSRS. ORC was one of the clownshows that predicted Crooked would win last November by four points, when she got trounced in the electoral college (and would have lost the popular vote were it not for the DNC’s illegally imported voteherd). You watch: it will make no difference to polling accuracy because, like virtually every other pollster, SSRS will be using D+10-D+12 sample stacks — representing the same electorate that elected Obama in 2008, not the one that voted in Trump — polling as few as 20% of likely voters and, with as few as 10% of callers responding because of privacy concerns (especially Trump voters), it won’t be able to access what real voters are thinking:

    The McClatchy-Marist Poll conducted in March found that only seven percent of Americans said they had a “great deal” of faith in polls …

    Why would you trust polls when they’re always wrong? And when they are used primarily by the MSM as propaganda to undermine Trump?

  159. 2dogs

    Regarding the Charlottesville driver, I am still presuming him not guilty:

    a) The collision could have been an accident by an inexperienced driver, and
    b) fleeing the scene could have been out of fear/self-defence as there was a riot going on.

    Regarding (b), I am not aware of any previous case of self-defence being used to justify fleeing the scene of an accident, but it is technically available.

  160. rickw

    Oh dear, rickw. That is embarrassing for you.

    In a vacuum of real facts about the incident, it’s not embarrassing either way you fat fucking moron. Even if he intentionally committed the crime, the morons at Antifa have provided some good defence options for him, incase you missed stimpy’s baseball bat photo.

  161. When President Trump threatened the Norks with ‘Fire and Fury” we all dismissed Project Thor which was rods from God – bars from space accelerated at a target from orbit and slamming into it at 30/40km/hr.
    How about a Tungsten Steel casing around a solid fuel core, three strap on boosters and a seeker guidance head. All up weight about 10 ton.
    Aircraft takes it to ceiling height – say 50,000 feet, drops projectile, solid fuel and boosters ignite, and gives more height to steel and tungsten rod. Seeker head gains target and the lump of metal accelerates downhill like a ten year old at a Labor Party Youth Camp.
    I leave you with Bruce to calculate the forces involved for I am a lazy bastard.

  162. JC

    Monst,

    You like Eddie Bazum in Devil’s Advocate.

    Eddie Bazum, Eddie Bazum!

  163. srr

    🙂

    rickw
    #2467346, posted on August 13, 2017 at 1:01 pm

    Monty is the house Lefty; srr is the house crank.

    Alex, with due respect,

    I can get munty’s leftists boilerplate anywhere (and usually done way better), in contrast you can’t get srr anywhere else.

    That’s coz I didn’t come out of a factory.

    I’m simply a one of, human creation, all my mortal imperfections uniquely my own 🙂

    Ha, that reminds of a Hippy Classic …


    And that’s why tonight I’d like to dedicate it to every FBI
    man in the audience. I know you can’t say nothin’, you know,
    you can’t get up and say “Hi!” cause then everybody knows
    that you’re an FBI man and that’s a drag for you and your friends.

    They’re not really your friends, are they? I mean, so you can’t
    get up and say nothin’ ’cause other wise, you gotta get sent
    back to the factory
    and that’s a drag for you and it’s an
    expense for the government, and that’s a drag for you.

    We’re gonna sing you this Christmas carol. It’s for all you
    bastards out there in the audience tonight. It’s called …

  164. Hey it’s 2dogs! Where have you been?

  165. Stimpson J. Cat

    Even if he intentionally committed the crime, the morons at Antifa have provided some good defence options for him, incase you missed stimpy’s baseball bat photo.

    Yep.
    The peaceful citizens holding hands and singing kumbaya.
    I am sure they would have all been desperately wandering around looking for Police to hand Pepsi’s too, alas, they were nowhere to be found.

  166. srr

    And for the time poor heathens, you might want to skip to 3:40 –

    … because of that lack of enthusiasm, I’m gonna have to tell you about, how I wrote da song …

    The Best, long version of … *Trigger Warning* for you know who 😉 …

    “The Motorcycle Song”

  167. 2dogs

    I haven’t been away, Monty. I did comment here last weekend. I don’t think I have ever been a prolific commentator, for that matter.

  168. val majkus

    Piers Akerman’s column today (the start)

    THE self-obsession of the homosexual and alphabetical co-community knows no bounds.

    Can anyone imagine any other fixation stealing the headlines from Hitler’s pre-World War II threats to ­Europe, or Japan’s march through Asia, or Osama bin Laden’s pledge to destroy the West?

    Yet, with North Korea’s ­lunatic leader Kim Jong-un pledging to launch a ballistic missile attack on Guam perhaps this weekend Labor ­leader Bill Shorten is mimicking the Greens, the ABC’s and the gay lobby’s hysteria over the planned postal plebiscite.

    It’s not as if there isn’t a plethora of other deeply worrying domestic issues with which to wrestle either.

    Labor and the Greens are overwhelmingly to blame for sending power bills through the roof with their unquestioning embrace inefficient renewable energy — but not a word about the hardship they are creating for Australians.

    Shorten is equally silent on the outrageous proposal that two of the most thuggish ­unions, the rogue CFMEU and the Maritime Union of Australia, join forces in a super-union which would have the capacity to hold the nation to ransom.

    His tacit endorsement of the proposed merger stands in stunning contrast to past ALP leaders, whose tough stand against unions which threatened the nation was both principled and courageous.

    Former ACTU boss and Labor PM Bob Hawke knew corruption when he saw it and he did not hesitate in acting to deregister the Builders’ Labourers Federation in 1986.

    Last year, Hawke called on Labor and the ACTU to consider cutting ties with the CFMEU even as his successor Paul Keating warned against the influence the union movement had within the ALP.

    It doesn’t help that Labor’s workplace relations spokesman, Brendan O’Connor, is the brother of CFMEU national secretary Michael O’Connor. Nor does it help that the systemically criminal CFMEU last week became the first union in the country to rack up $10 million in fines after receiving a $300,000 fine in the Federal Court.

    Employment Minister Michaelia Cash nailed the union and Shorten when she asked whether he thought it appropriate the ALP maintain its strong connection to a lawless organisation.

    The fines were imposed after the union illegally disrupted work on three vital Brisbane infrastructure projects, where more than 600 workers were found to have engaged in unlawful industrial action. “Australians understand the need to abide by the rule of law and yet this corrupt union thinks the law should not apply to it,” Cash said.

    Compare Shorten’s support for the CFMEU with Labor hero Ben Chifley’s handling of rogue Communist mining ­unions during the great Coal Strike of 1949. He sent the army into the mines and brought an end to the seven-week strike which had brought the nation to its knees….

  169. Cold-Hands

    custard

    Cheers Baldrick, one interview heard in Melbourne?

    It leads off this podcast. Lyle Shelton gets pulled up and forced to explain/defend himself after every other sentence.

  170. Makka

    It doesn’t help that Labor’s workplace relations spokesman, Brendan O’Connor, is the brother of CFMEU national secretary Michael O’Connor. Nor does it help that the systemically criminal CFMEU last week became the first union in the country to rack up $10 million in fines after receiving a $300,000 fine in the Federal Court.

    Do you ever hear the cowardly Libs highlight this? No. Because big business who back the jelly backs are only too happy to pay protection money to the Union mafia to secure bigger profits. A symbiotic parasitical relationship with no losers, unless you happen to be a hapless taxpayer.

  171. cohenite

    I knew it:

    Linda Sarsour claims Muhammad was “a human rights activist, a racial justice activist, an environmental justice activist, an animal rights activist, a feminist, and the first victim of Islamophobia.”

    https://www.facebook.com/ABUAJride/videos/1190148127758000/?hc_ref=ARTKxLUqeEz5k0jTzKlTCnEhQ5ZmLINAbYxgOAw8dBbnJMy8XNDNidg5xQS8Rw1RPbU&fref=gs

  172. incoherent rambler

    an animal rights activist

    So goats have marriage rights?

  173. Makka

    Linda Sarsour claims Muhammad was “a human rights activist, a racial justice activist, an environmental justice activist, an animal rights activist, a feminist, and the first victim of Islamophobia.”

    Not bad for a character who never existed.

  174. srr

    Oh, and thanks for reminding me m0nty –

    m0nty
    #2467358, posted on August 13, 2017 at 1:09 pm

    If I had thought up a parody sock puppet to illustrate the hypocrisy of the right

    You do know why the beloved and saintly Gilbert Keith Chesterton is known as, ‘The Master of Paradox’, right.

    And you do know the difference between paradox and hypocrisy, right.

    So you won’t have too much trouble navigating through fields of a real human’s existence that can make them grateful for comical tales in Arlo Guthrie’s tunes, without them also being captured by the little devils in the details, right.

    I mean, I discovered G.K. Chesterton through his murder mysteries, and if not for that, I wouldn’t have gone on to read his prophetic warnings against trusting the Prussians, and his expectation of Christian Russians, yet again, stepping up to help Western Europe save itself from devilish secularism 😉

  175. Top Ender

    What happened to the kid, Diogenes? Counselled perhaps?

  176. Boambee John

    Was the Charlottesville driver a “lone wolf” with mental health issues?

  177. Bruce of Newcastle

    I leave you with Bruce to calculate the forces involved for I am a lazy bastard.

    Or you could read “The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress” by Heinlein. 😀

  178. cohenite

    Stimpson J. Cat

    #2467516, posted on August 13, 2017 at 3:31 pm

    Wew Lads. This will get ugly.

    So, this is the car driver and he’s in this group; what is this group?

  179. Top Ender

    Richard the Lionheart seems to be portrayed as gay because he had no legitimate children – there was one illegitimate, perhaps – and he once “shared a bed” with the king of France.

    But sharing beds was pretty common in those days, some accounts have it, and this was probably more to say they were firm friends for political reasons.

    This analysis sums it up.

  180. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    an animal rights activist

    Ask any donkey.

  181. Senile Old Guy

    Or you could read “The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress” by Heinlein.

    A very, very good story.

  182. You do know why the beloved and saintly Gilbert Keith Chesterton is known as, ‘The Master of Paradox’, right.

    And you do know the difference between paradox and hypocrisy, right.

    So you won’t have too much trouble navigating through fields of a real human’s existence that can make them grateful for comical tales in Arlo Guthrie’s tunes, without them also being captured by the little devils in the details, right.

    I mean, I discovered G.K. Chesterton through his murder mysteries, and if not for that, I wouldn’t have gone on to read his prophetic warnings against trusting the Prussians, and his expectation of Christian Russians, yet again, stepping up to help Western Europe save itself from devilish secularism 😉

    Um… what?

  183. calli

    I don’t understand Stimpy. Please spell it out for this dummy.

  184. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    NATIONAL BREAKING NEWS
    Canberra assisting terrorist Prakash

    Aaron Bunch
    Australian Associated Press
    3:11PM August 13, 2017

    The federal government could help Australia’s most wanted terrorist find a defence lawyer as he faces extradition from Turkey.

    The Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade says Neil Prakash is receiving “standard” Australian consular assistance while in maximum-security prison in Turkey.

    It is understood this could include helping Prakash contact family members, liaising with Turkish authorities about the 26-year-old’s well-being while in custody and assisting him to find legal representation.

    Australian officials have visited him twice in jail, News Corp reports.

    Health Minister Greg Hunt told Seven’s Sunrise program the government’s focus was gathering the intelligence information Mr Prakash could share about ISIS.

    A spokesman for the attorney-general’s department told AAP Prakash is subject to a formal extradition request from Australia but Turkish “processes need to be respected and allowed to be completed.”

    In May, Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull vowed to lock up the Islamic State terrorist for life and said Prakash was likely to be extradited from Turkey within months.

    The Melbourne-born Islamic State recruiter is also reported to have told Turkish authorities he married a Dutch jihadi bride while fighting in Syria and the couple have two children, who are eligible for Australian citizenship.

    Prakash was arrested trying to cross the border from Syria into Turkey using false documents on October 24. He has spent the past 10 months in custody on terror related charges.

    Also known as Abu Khaled al-Cambodi, Prakash left Australia for Syria via Malaysia in 2013. He has featured in a number of IS propaganda videos in which he calls for attacks on Australia and the United States.

    His Australian passport was cancelled in October 2014 and federal police issued a warrant for his arrest through Interpol in August 2015.

    Prakash has been described by the government as the most senior Australian operator in IS.

    He has also been linked to a failed Melbourne plot to behead a police officer on Anzac Day in 2015 and Numan Haider, an 18-year-old who was killed after stabbing two police officers in 2014.

    Update, from a story I posted earlier. Words fail me, they honestly fvcking do. Why are we even thinking of extraditing Prakash to Australia?

  185. Fisky

    Rockileaks‏ @notwokieleaks 5h5 hours ago
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    Replying to @notwokieleaks @mkawia
    You can’t control it once it’s unleashed. The fact antifa refused to understand that shows they’re too dumb to discuss politics
    1 reply 3 retweets 44 likes
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    Rockileaks‏ @notwokieleaks 5h5 hours ago
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    Replying to @notwokieleaks @mkawia
    This is why I’m calling them out for LARPing. “Golly we said political violence was good but not this kind! Only the good kind!”
    1 reply 4 retweets 37 likes
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    Rockileaks‏ @notwokieleaks 5h5 hours ago
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    Replying to @mkawia
    Antifa escalated violence for over a year which included setting immigrants cars on fire and beating innocent people unconscious

  186. incoherent rambler

    an animal rights activist
    ________________________
    Ask any donkey.

    I did. Mal refused to comment.

  187. val majkus

    Tamworth’s ‘No New Coal’ demo attracted 82 supporters …. ho hum … video is here https://www.facebook.com/NDLNews/videos/vb.259495597475135/1462074187217264/?type=2&theater

  188. calli

    My internet is slower than dial up. I’m considering posting comments by carrier pigeon.

  189. Distraction – A farce in one act

    Scene:
    A parliament house

    Characters:
    Malcolm, A politician
    Nikki, a journalist

    Nikki: Things have been a little tough of late. How are you traveling?
    Malcolm: Very well.
    Nikki: Really?
    Malcolm: Oh yes! It was touch and go a while back but now…
    Nikki: Why so happy now? What’s changed?
    Malcolm: Well, let’s see. The North Korea situation is rapidly degrading catastrophically. Potential nuclear war!
    Nikki: Yes…
    Malcolm: The likelihood of more Australian innocent men, women and children dead at the hands of Islamic terrorists increases daily.
    Nikki: Without a doubt…
    Malcolm: The ADF is being torn in two with supplicant admirals, generals and air marshals on the one side and the warfighters on the other over female and LGBTI inclusiveness directives.
    Nikki: How…
    Malcolm: The gay marriage debate is becoming increasingly violent.
    Nikki: How is all this good?
    Malcolm: Well, with all this going on, stories on power prices and renewables are being bumped off the front page.
    Nikki: So?
    Malcolm: There’s less chance of someone realising that all I’m doing… that my only goal as PM is to lock in the long term profitability of my ‘green’ investments.
    Nikki: Wait.. what?
    Malcolm: Come on, did you really think there was more?
    Nikki: (Thinking for a moment) Can I buy in?
    Malcolm: Too late.
    Nikki: After all I’ve done for you?
    Malcolm: That’s the way it is.
    Nikki: You know something, you’re a real… a real… bastard.
    Malcolm: Exactly.

  190. Andrew M.

    Native title holders to charge entrance fees for more sites of natural beauty in Kimberleys.
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-13/aboriginal-group-charges-cruise-passengers-visiting-kimberley/8790004
    The elder chair of the local aboriginal corporation says “It’s a beautiful landscape and everybody is welcome to our country”, but for a fee.
    As in so many other areas of social control via economic control, price is the new prohibition.
    But I suspect the aboriginals will eventually discover the price volume curve and the price will come down. We may yet see Smith’s fabled Invisible Hand of the Free Market Economy be added to the panoply of Dreamtime spirits resident in these reddish rocks. 🙂

  191. Andreas;

    Good on them for the service they provide but who knew delivering a meal to the elderly was so dangerous?

    Ever been clouted across the scone by a cranky old chook with a loaded cane?
    It bloody well hurts!

  192. Boambee John

    Riccardo Bosi
    #2467428, posted on August 13, 2017 at 1:56 pm
    but Australian politicians are so hopeless it looks like they can be bought for a trip to Europe, free coffee mug and a pat on the head.

    Does the mug have to come with a logo?
    Asking for a friend.

    Not just the politicians.

    Therewas a persistent rumour around Defence that a fair proportion of the Collins Class project team drove Saabs.

  193. Native title holders to charge entrance fees for more sites of natural beauty in Kimberleys.

    Great. When can we expect our $30 billion a year back?

  194. val majkus

    wow! they had a welcome ceremony

  195. There was a persistent rumour around Defence that a fair proportion of the Collins Class project team drove Saabs.

    Gaol the bastards!

  196. cohenite

    Riccardo Bosi

    #2467532, posted on August 13, 2017 at 3:50 pm

    Distraction – A farce in one act

    No doubt but the ones really cleaning up (sic) with renewables are the unions who control industry super. Industry super funds are the main investors in renewable startups and they receive handsome returns through direct government subsidies and RET certificates. By the time the poor workers have no super left when the whole scam falls over the funds will have moved on.

    Ain’t life grand.

  197. Chris

    Nice, Riccardo. Did you have live feed, or recover the device after the meeting?

  198. Stimpson J. Cat

    American Vanguard allegedly.

  199. Chris

    There was a persistent rumour around Defence that a fair proportion of the Collins Class project team drove Saabs.

    So did two friends and a mother-in-law. You get a real fighter-jet feeling when you drop your hand down beside the seat to unlock and initiate the power unit.

  200. Stimpson J. Cat

    Vanguard America.

  201. Zatara

    ZK2A

    Why are we even thinking of extraditing Prakash to Australia?

    Officially…

    Australia has applied for his extradition on a Federal Police warrant for:

    “…being a member of ISIS, recruitment of others and being involved in the plotting to “massacre” crowds and behead police at an Anzac Day commemoration in Melbourne in 2015.”

    In May 2017, Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull announced that Prakash, was expected to be extradited from Turkey in months to stand trial in Australia.

    One would think the countries where he has actually carried out terrorist acts would have priority over an Australian ‘Conspiracy to whatever’ charge regarding acts that never happened. And if being a member of ISIS was a crime then every returnee fighter from Syria/Iraq would be in gaol.

  202. Farmer Gez

    Richard Coer de Lion gay?
    Super aggressive testosterone charged alpha males are rarely gay. Edward II was always suspected of being a whoopsie.
    The fact that Richard could shag any woman he wished could be a hint to his lack of issue and lack of interest in marriage. The royal wick was probably diseased for quite some time and that alone tends to spoil the strike rate.

  203. Stimpson J. Cat

    Maybe not.
    Thrills and spills on the conspiracy train!!!!
    Agility required.
    Going shopping.
    Let me know when they find his KKK hood.

  204. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Gaol the bastards!

    Back in the day, I was questioning a list of expenses that were well outside the “scope of works.” I was bluntly told to my face “This is a big contract, 55 million dollars worth. There’s enough in it for all of us.” When I refused, I was told “If you aren’t in with us, you’ll be out on your ear, in three months.”

    I was.

    Found out later “Mate, they had to get rid of you. You were an honest man, asking too many questions.”

  205. Stimpson J. Cat

    Saabs

    Rampant Degeneracy.

  206. notafan

    Joanna Mendelson‏ @jo_mendelson 57m57 minutes ago
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    Alleged perp of #Charlottesville car ramming, James Alex Fields, was w/ white supremacist group Vanguard America. ➡️https://www.adl.org/education/resources/backgrounders/vanguard-america …

    In that case the wrong face was circled, I thought it was the bloke second on the left-you can confirm by going to this twitter account

  207. Boambee John #2467535, posted on August 13, 2017 at 3:54 pm

    There was a one star in the capability area of Defence. A man of impeccable charcter and peerless ability. We all knew, that in time, he would be serious contender for CDF.

    Then one day, out of the blue and just before he was to be promoted to two star he inexplicably resigned.

    Some of us suspected he was told the price of promotion was to support the acquisition of military equipment that was selected, not on the basis that it was the best equipment for the job and represented the best value for money, but because it scored higher on some other… rea$on.

    We lost one of the Army’s best officers that day.

  208. Boambee John

    m0nty

    Please find time in your busy pro-Antifa posting cycle to condemn the murderous crimes of communism.

    Otherwise your bleating about ‘Nazi’ violence seems hypocritical.

    PS, A few words about Islamic atrocities wouldn’t go astray either.

  209. “Mate, they had to get rid of you. You were an honest man, asking too many questions.”

    Diogenes would be wasting his time in Canberra.

  210. Chris

    Already posted I think but: Jury orders blogger to pay $8.4 million to ex-Army colonel she accused of rape

    For a very rare example where a vicious injustice gets ultimately recognised.

    There should be a lot more of it.

  211. Boambee John

    Riccardo

    Defence procurement often falls into the other definition of “procuring”.

    Remember that an apparently honest Defence Minister (by political standards) lost his position for suggesting that he would not trust ASC to build a canoe.

  212. Joanna Mendelson‏ @jo_mendelson 57m57 minutes ago
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    Alleged perp of #Charlottesville car ramming, James Alex Fields, was w/ white supremacist group Vanguard America. ➡️https://www.adl.org/education/resources/backgrounders/vanguard-america …

    So much for false flags.

  213. test pattern

    ‘Native title holders to charge entrance fees for more sites of natural beauty in Kimberleys.
    Great. When can we expect our $30 billion a year back?’

    The Wunambal and Gaambera don’t get $30 billion a year from anyone u ignorant dickhead.

    ‘The Wanjina Wunggurr (Uunguu) native title determinations recognise that we hold exclusive rights to 90 percent of our land and islands, and have shared native title in the sea. Exclusive native title means that for the land shown red on the map, we Wunambal Gaambera people and no one else in the world have the rights to possess, occupy, use and enjoy and make all the decisions about these rights.’

    http://www.wunambalgaambera.org.au/uvp-landing-page

  214. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    ‘The Wanjina Wunggurr (Uunguu) native title determinations recognise that we hold exclusive rights to 90 percent of our land and islands, and have shared native title in the sea.

    “native title” is a marxist invention.

  215. Chris #2467540, posted on August 13, 2017 at 3:58 pm

    Nice, Riccardo. Did you have live feed, or recover the device after the meeting?

    Distraction is a work of fiction. Names, characters, businesses, places, events and incidents are either the products of the author’s imagination or used in a fictitious manner. Any resemblance to actual persons, living or dead, or actual events is purely coincidental.

    Also I sincerely believe that all politicians and political journalists are men, women and other non-binary non-specified sexes and/or genders of good character, and people should just leave them alone.

  216. Fisky

    Oh. So it looks like the car terrorist was a member of the Far Right after all. Too bad some people have been promoting political violence for a year now, because if they hadn’t done that, maybe at least one more person would be alive.

  217. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Linda Sarsour claims Muhammad was “a human rights activist, a racial justice activist, an environmental justice activist, an animal rights activist, a feminist, and the first victim of Islamophobia.”

    And the genocide of the Banu Qurayza was purely a defensive act

  218. Test Pattern, I happy to discuss issues with any Cat, however if you wish to hurl abuse, my rule that you reveal your full and true name otherwise you are nothing but a coward.

  219. Gab

    So it looks like the car terrorist was a member of the Far Right after all.

    Not at all.

    He was just a lone wolf.
    With mental issues.
    He was disenfranchised.
    You can’t blame the Far Right for the actions of one mentally ill lone wolf.

    Police will issue a warning about a backlash any minute now …

  220. Baldrick

    So much for false flags.

    No m0nty, he was not a Vanguard America member.

  221. Fisky

    Linda Sarsour claims Muhammad was “a human rights activist, a racial justice activist, an environmental justice activist, an animal rights activist, a feminist, and the first victim of Islamophobia.”

    I’m amazed at how she knows all of this. Certainly none of Muhammad’s contemporaries knew all this about him, or indeed anything at all – they literally didn’t mention his name for nearly 60 years after he died!

  222. Senile Old Guy

    2012:

    PUBLIC spending on indigenous Australia jumped to $25.4 billion in just two years amid a growing debate over whether the cash is improving education, health and employment for 575,000 people.
    A surge in school funding tops the spending increases revealed in a federal government analysis that shows total outlays have risen to $44,128 for every indigenous person.

    The Productivity Commission checked 86 spending programs to conclude that federal, state and local government spending reached $25.4bn in the 2011 financial year, 5.6 per cent of public spending on all Australians. The total outlay is up 16 per cent from the commission’s last Indigenous Expenditure Report, for the 2009 financial year, when annual outlay for each indigenous person was $40,228. Governments spent $19,589 a person last year on the non-indigenous.

    2016:

    Indigenous affairs spending worth $5.9 billion a year is not ­delivering results because few of the schemes being funded are properly evaluated, the assessment of what is needed is ­inadequate and some programs are poorly designed.

  223. Boambee John

    From Peter Hitchens

    We have always known that his great university pal was an Australian called Geoff Gallop. [Tony] Blair himself has said in his autobiography that Gallop belonged to the International Marxist Group. This was a secretive sect, some of whose members had codenames and used to shout ‘Victory to the IRA!’ on demonstrations.

    Wasn’t Geoff Gallop an ALP premier? SA?

  224. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Wasn’t Geoff Gallop an ALP premier? SA?

    Premier of Western Australia. He resigned, citing depression, took a hefty payout, and was last heard of as an academic in Sydney.

  225. incoherent rambler

    SA?

    A low voltage state that can be safely ignored.

  226. No m0nty, he was not a Vanguard America member.

    Haha Baldrick, you didn’t read the replies on that tweet, did you? Funny stuff.

  227. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Riccardo Bosi
    #2467561, posted on August 13, 2017 at 4:34 pm

    Test Pattern, I happy to discuss issues with any Cat, however if you wish to hurl abuse, my rule that you reveal your full and true name otherwise you are nothing but a coward.

    We’re waiting, Test Pattern.

  228. Baldrick

    Haha Baldrick, you didn’t read the replies on that tweet, did you? Funny stuff.

    Now who’s flying a false flag?

  229. So, to sum up:
    – Vanguard America organises Nazi protest in Charlottesville
    – James Alex Fields Jr. appears in photo on Vanguard America Twitter feed at rally
    – Fields is holding a Vanguard America shield
    – Fields is wearing the Vanguard America uniform of white polo and khaki slacks
    – Fields commits an act of terrorism
    – Vanguard America pretends they never knew him

    Mm hmm.

  230. 2dogs

    James Alex Fields Jr. appears in photo on Vanguard America Twitter feed at rally

    Is this confirmed, or just based on facial similarity at the moment?

  231. Gab

    Nazis are socialists. Not sure what monty is crowing about.

  232. herodotus

    I heard that Monty was working on a new game. Fantasy Antifa Hero.

  233. H B Bear

    Wasn’t Geoff Gallop an ALP premier? SA?

    “Good news” Geoff, one of the Liars early adopters and exponents of Blairite spin.

  234. notafan

    2dogs

    Still relying on similarities.

  235. Makka

    So, to sum up: mUnty has zero cred and no value. Sad but true.

  236. JC

    So, to sum up:
    – Vanguard America organises Nazi protest in Charlottesville
    – James Alex Fields Jr. appears in photo on Vanguard America Twitter feed at rally
    – Fields is holding a Vanguard America shield
    – Fields is wearing the Vanguard America uniform of white polo and khaki slacks
    – Fields commits an act of terrorism
    – Vanguard America pretends they never knew him

    Mm hmm.

    1. Never heard of Vanguard.
    2. never heard of Alex Fields Jr, nor Snr.
    3. Never was informed about this rally.

    No interest in all three points. Where are you going with this, monster?

  237. Boambee John

    Thanks Zulu, WA, even he and Carmen “I don’t remember” Lawrence couldn’t do there what Rann and Weatherdill have achieved in SA.

  238. JC

    Monster,

    The cops admitted the car’s brakes were faulty.

    I find it ironic how the Bezos blog was able to find out all those details of the driver of the faulty car in about 2.2345 seconds flat, but there’s silence when there’s an Alan’s snackbar incident.

  239. Boambee John

    m0nty

    Communism? Crimes of? Condemnation?

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