Who is laughing now?

I am.

Nick Xenophon was joking around just this week about being in violation of s44 – but not really peeps, just a joke.

Yes. Well.

South Australian Senator Nick Xenophon has been told he is a UK citizen and is to refer himself to the High Court.

Senator Xenophon confirmed today that the British Home Office notified him overnight he was a “British Overseas Citizen,” due to his father’s birth in the then British territory of Cyprus.

Senator Xenophon, whose father came to Australia in 1951 had been awaiting confirmation from as to whether he was a citizen by descent.

Standing outside the British Hotel in Adelaide, he told reporters: “The circumstances of this are bizarre and rare.” He said the Home Office had admitted it was a “rare peculiarity.”

Nick the foreigner.

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108 Responses to Who is laughing now?

  1. Robbo

    The biter just got bit. No sympathy for someone who was prepared to stick the knife into Barnaby Joyce but now finds himself in the same stew pot.

  2. Squirrel

    “Who is laughing now?”

    Probably not the Senator whose House of Reps cross-bench colleague was yesterday reported as calling for Joyce and Nash to stand aside.

  3. Fleeced

    The biter just got bit

    Ooh – Reverse Vampire Syndrome!

    Bob Day gets whacked, and the Greens laugh and declare “He was never a senator”.

    Turns out two Greens were never senators, and Barnaby laughs whilst Malcolm Roberts demands audit.

    Malcolm Roberts is now under a cloud, and Barnaby is caught out. Fiona Nash too (has she been biting Barnaby?). Xenophon treats the whole thing asa joke.

    The moral to the story is: Don’t Get Cocky.

  4. J.H.

    I wonder if the Xenophon Party of Senators is demanding Nick stand aside with Barnaby and Fiona?

    Ah, the irony.

  5. Fleeced

    I wonder if the Xenophon Party of Senators is demanding Nick stand aside with Barnaby and Fiona?

    Stand aside from what?

  6. Tel

    So if the Aboriginals were members of “First Nations” before European settlement, do they need to apply at the tent embassy for a declaration to say they are now 100% Australian before they can enter Parliament?

  7. Up The Workers!

    So a certain odious xenophobic dwarf from Jurassic Weatherdills’ tribe of aspiring cave-dwellers has finally got his comeuppance – courtesy of the Poms, of all people.

    If he can hold on for another 50 years, he might want to wait until the Prime Quislings’ $50 BILLION worth of seat-saving submarines are finished being constructed by the light of Bryant & Mays’ matches and arc-welded with the aid of donated second-hand Eveready “AA” batteries, before getting even with those Poms for raining on his parade.

    Always knew there was something wrong with the guy, and this just confirms it.

    Not only is he the sort of bloke who could cheerfully drink a “Southwark” beer without retching…it now seems that he would happily drink it WARM!

    Urrgh!

  8. A Lurker

    Someone stick a fork in this Parliament because it’s done.

  9. calli

    In answer to your question: I am! 😃

  10. Brett

    This is now making us into a joke; how can it go on? Surely we must have a Double Dissolution election, for the HOR and the Full Senate.

  11. calli

    Lurker, this Parliament vaguely resembles that burnt on detritus that you scrape off with the BarbieBoss. There is no sausagey goodness left in it.

    Bin please nurse.

  12. rickw

    Fire the fucking lot.

    Start again.

  13. Up The Workers!

    If this booting out of foreign imposters and freeloaders continues much longer, Senator Pauline Hanson may be the only one left.

    She can then wear her burkha as much as she likes without all the hypocritical professional offendees of terrorists’ apologists, wife-bashing aficionados, hand and head-lopping fanciers, ‘honor-killing’, stoning and gay-tossing connoisseurs and brown-tongues of the A.L.P. and Brown Movement having hissy-fits.

    When do they start refunding all those squillions of taxpayers’ hard-earned dollars in utterly unearned Parliamentary salaries, lurks, perks, schemes and pocket-lining scams?

  14. H B Bear

    Fvckwit fvcks up. Failed State. Failed senator.

  15. John64

    Xylophone was telling the truth.

    He’s never been a Greek or Cypriot citizen.

  16. Marcus Classis

    Xenophon’s a snake oil salesman in any case. Hope the little sod gets booted.

  17. stackja

    NXT please, Rebekha Sharkie Born: 1972, Devon, United Kingdom.

  18. Rob

    When does the full audit of all MHRs and Senators get underway?

  19. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Xenophon’s a snake oil salesman in any case. Hope the little sod gets booted.

    Xenophon and Lambie are prime examples of why the mendicant States should be denied representation in the senate.

  20. RobK

    Incase you missed it:
    http://m.huffingtonpost.com.au/robert-angyal/section-44-of-the-constitution-means-nobody-is-eligible-to-be-el_a_23078667/

    Guess what? Much closer to home, under recent and little-noticed changes to New Zealand law, Australian citizens now don’t need a visa to live, study or work in the Land of the Long White Cloud. That’s right: Any Australian citizen is entitled to live, study and work there.

    That means we’re ALL entitled to the rights and privileges of a subject of New Zealand — not a citizen, with the attached rights and privileges such as voting — but to be a subject of that country, living there, subject to New Zealand law, working or studying. And there’s no doubt that New Zealand is a “foreign power” — you only have to watch the All Blacks do the haka to realise that.

  21. Roger

    What offended me more than his carelessness (as a lawyer) in not checking the possibility of British citizenship before his senate candidature was underway was his attempt at his press conference today to parley his own error into a criticism of the political class in general.

    Own your mistake, Nick.

  22. Roger

    Incase you missed it:

    Yeah…no; that won’t fly.

  23. John Constantine

    Why not link the amount of federal funding per head of population to the federal Senate voting power per head of population?.

    A failed state can only get to rip off the country on Either cash payments or Senate votes, not votes.

    Scumbags can’t blow up their own power stations then demand brand new ones be given to them.

  24. RobK

    Roger,
    Yeah…no; that won’t fly.

    I thought so too, but the author is an SC and I’m not.

  25. min

    Turnbull must be now realising that Karma has caught up with him

  26. RobK

    John C,
    Scumbags can’t blow up their own power stations then demand brand new ones be given to them.

    Fair point.

  27. Roger

    I thought so too, but the author is an SC and I’m not.

    I think he’s having a lend, Rob.

    Either that or he’s having a dig at the Constitution on the grounds that it’s out of step with “contemporary Australia’s multicultural nature.”

  28. Jo Smyth

    Are any bets being taken that when this gets to the High Court they will all come out smelling of roses, after all who in Parliament follows the law these days.

  29. Muddy

    Someone stick a fork in this Parliament because it’s done.

    Stand back and wear heavy duty PPE though Lurker, because the gases that escape once you pierce the casing could quite possibly doom us all. Asphyxiation by Dalek fumes.

  30. Tel

    That means we’re ALL entitled to the rights and privileges of a subject of New Zealand — not a citizen, with the attached rights and privileges such as voting — but to be a subject of that country, living there, subject to New Zealand law, working or studying.

    A “subject” in the old sense when the Australian Constitution was written would certainly have been same as citizen, not someone hanging around on a working visa. Anyone on holiday in any foreign country is “subject” to the laws of that place where they are staying, but that’s a completely different context. Hufpo used to be edgy, now they are just lame.

  31. Robber Baron

    Min at 6.27…Turnbull, like Gillard will roll along until the inevitable end. Turnbull has nothing to offer. He has no vision. He has no energy. It would be a fitting end if he was a dual citizen.

  32. Roger

    Are any bets being taken that when this gets to the High Court they will all come out smelling of roses, after all who in Parliament follows the law these days.

    I expect the High Court to apply black letter law.

    That doesn’t mean some of these miscreants won’t find a way back in due to arcane electoral rules.

  33. egg_

    Trombone just got a sock put in it?

  34. RobK

    I think he’s having a lend, Rob.
    I think so. The quote is “entitled to therights and privileges”, not “entitled to rights…”

  35. Dr Fred Lenin

    Is all legistlation passed by this fraudulent parliament legal/?will someone challenge the governments right to enforce laws passed by an illegal parliament ? I am no lawyer but I think there. Is an unbeatable case for negating any law or action of this body of even more dubious than their usual crap .this could be the nail in the coffin for politics as we knew it ,and not before time . Government by referenda ,one term politicians at all times , number of senators by population and three year terms like the other gang .

  36. Jannie

    If this means you are automatically a British citizen because your father was born in a British territory then there will be a few more referrals to the High Court.

    Might be a good pretext for an election, including another full senate election, so they can pass legislation to ratify all the legislation that is technically void because it was passed by foreigners.

  37. JC

    Let me say at the outset that X is a dishonest, no-thing little toad without an ounce of any endearing human quality. In a just world he would be deported back to the UK. Having said all that though, it’s a really tall order that this miserable little Cypriot, doing to the rest of Australia what has been done to SA, should be disqualified, because without him knowing, he’s inadvertently a citizen of the UK.

    I mean shit….

    That’s not to say he shouldn’t be thrown out of the senate on his rear end. He should, but we should also be cognizant that we’re doing this in order to be rid him.

  38. Roger

    …it’s a really tall order that this miserable little Cypriot, doing to the rest of Australia what has been done to SA, should be disqualified, because without him knowing, he’s inadvertently a citizen of the UK.

    Bear in mind he’s a lawyer.

    His professed ignorance doesn’t wash (ditto Larissa Waters).

    He was negligent in not pursuing his father’s and his own status in British law before running for the senate.

  39. Rabz

    #foreignerswhores&quislings

    🙂

  40. JC

    He was negligent….

    All that needed to be said, in addition that in a just world he should be deported. I always thought exile is a reasonable punishment.

  41. Tel

    I always thought exile is a reasonable punishment.

    Have a heart JC.

    The guy comes from South Australia.

  42. JC

    Have a heart JC.

    The guy comes from South Australia.

    Oh yea. Fair point.

  43. JC

    Get a load of the little prick pretending he’s working hard and prepared to put in an all nighter. Who’s he fucking kidding – who stays at work wearing pj’s? Lord I hope we can be rid of him.
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-35838653

  44. Rabz

    BTW, how many billions of taxpayers’ dollars have been wasted on “special deals” negoshiayted with that slimy greek piece of excrement, who never had any legitimacy in the first place?

    FFS, just bring this entire preposterous farce to a long overdue end and summarily execute them all.

    It’s the only way to be sure. 😡

  45. Roger

    Every day the government’s bureaucracy makes ordinary citizens, some of them illiterate, jump through hoops based on far more ambiguous grounds than S. 44.

    No sympathy, whatsoever.

    G-G, prorogue this parliament!

  46. RobK

    And there’s this (still leaves some in the lurch:

    There is also this from Sykes v Cleary (No 2) 1992 HCA 60:  

    The common law recognizes the concept of dual nationality, so that, for example, it may regard a person as being at the same time a citizen or national of both Australia and Germany ((31) Oppenheimer v. Cattermole (1976) AC 249, at pp 263-264, 278.). At common law, the question of whether a person is a citizen or national of a particular foreign State is determined according to the law of that foreign State ((32) R. v. Burgess; Ex parte Henry  [1936] HCA 52; (1936) 55 CLR 608, per Latham C.J. at p 649; Dixon J. at p 673). This latter principle is, in part, a recognition of the principle of international law, restated in the Nottebohm Case ((33) (Liechtenstein v. Guatemala)  (1955) ICJ 4, at p 20), that:

    “it is for every sovereign State … to settle by its own legislation the rules relating to the acquisition of its nationality, and to confer that nationality by naturalization granted by its own organs in accordance with that legislation”.

    But, there is no reason why s.44(i) should be read as if it were intended to give unqualified effect to that rule of international law. To do so might well result in the disqualification of Australian citizens on whom there was imposed involuntarily by operation of foreign law a continuing foreign nationality, notwithstanding that they had taken reasonable steps to renounce that foreign nationality. It would be wrong to interpret the constitutional provision in such a way as to disbar an Australian citizen who had taken all reasonable steps to divest himself or herself of any conflicting allegiance. It has been said ((38) The Constitutional Qualifications of Members of Parliament, Report by the Senate Standing Committee on Constitutional and Legal Affairs, (1981), par.2.14) that the provision was designed to ensure:

    “that members of Parliament did not have a split allegiance and were not, as far as possible, subject to any improper influence from foreign governments”.

    What is more, s.44(i) finds its place in a Constitution which was enacted at a time, like the present, when a high proportion of Australians, though born overseas, had adopted this country as their home. In that setting, it could scarcely have been intended to disqualify an Australian citizen for election to Parliament on account of his or her continuing to possess a foreign nationality, notwithstanding that he or she had taken reasonable steps to renounce that nationality. In this respect it is significant that s.42 of theConstitution requires a member of Parliament to take an oath or affirmation of allegiance in the form set out in the schedule to the Constitution.

  47. Shy Ted

    Running on the “no pokies” platform. Shoulda been the “no porkies” platform.

  48. john malpas

    does this mean that all the citizen procedures (on ordinary folk) carried out each year are meaningless?

  49. Rob MW

    Another self righteous moral supremacist turns out to be just a tourist without a visa.

    The revenge of the one arm bandits.

  50. Bruce in WA

    Fire the fucking lot.

    Start again.

    As much as I’d love to see this, I can bet real money it will never happen.

    They won’t LET it happen.

    And there’s F-all we can do about it.

  51. jock

    Is nick sure he is not also turkish? Queerer things have happened.

  52. Fleeced

    Rebekha Sharkie MP ✔ @MakeMayoMatter
    For the record I’m Australian. Made sure my dual UK citizenship renounced BEFORE election #trueblue
    4:07 PM – Jul 18, 2017

    Nice to know, Rebekah… you should have advised Nick to do the same

  53. overburdened

    All of this is a blind. There is a strange land called Dickheadistan that had as a machine that churns out Xenephons and other f22kwits who are programmed to believe they are the chosen ones. These implants easily slide into the seats of power and control due to the slipshod nature of the average Okka who has or has had a job, and assumes that by making a pithy remark or by attempting to show their cleverness on a echo chamber much like this one that their job is done. Bit like this comment, really. The drones, bludgers, wasters and wreckers like it this way coz of John Frum syndrome.

  54. Sooo …. Nick is just another big Greek bullshit artist doing dodgy shit for the ALP.

  55. alexnoaholdmate

    Is it really a major issue that Nick Xenophon’s parents were born in Cyprus, and are thus British?

    No.

    Is it really a big deal that Barnaby may – only on a very slight technicality – be a dual citizen of a close Commonwealth country?

    No.

    It’s all rather silly, really.

    But what isn’t silly at all – that the people we trust to govern according to the Constitution, and to be the safekeepers of our Constitution, don’t even know or respect the Constitution enough to ascertain whether they are constitutionally eligible even to hold office.

    We’re supposed to trust them with our government and they don’t even know enough about the Constitution to confirm whether they should even be there.

    For that reason alone every one of them that’s been pulled up by this farce deserves everything they get (except – just possibly – Barnaby, who can’t be held responsible if he did everything correctly but then New Zealand amended their laws to make him a citizen).

  56. Up The Workers!

    Amidst all this Parliamentary farce, don’t you find it enormously invigorating to know that ONLY in the Australian LIARS’ Party, ably led by Bull Shitten, the cowardly accused child-molesting rapist and his Deputy, the convicted criminal heroin-dealers’ spouse, and their Party’s former Federal President currently doing a 7-year prison stretch for embezzling $20 MILLION from the pockets of the lowest-paid Unionists in the land, are ALL of their rank and vile members totally free of the scourge of tainted ancestry.

    You can really TRUST the Australian LIARS’ Party.

    Bull Shitten promised.

    Honest!

  57. Up The Workers!

    I suspect that the major reason why the current fuss hasn’t tripped up any A.L.P. grubs, is because there are probably very few of them who feel confident enough to stab a guess at who their fathers might actually have been, in the first instance.

    The Australian vernacular has a fine term for the legitimacy of such people, and it is often employed in describing the rank and vile membership of the A.L.P.

  58. Shelley

    I came to the Cat specifically this morning to comment on this.

    Rebecca Sharkie, who as my local member I have never once heard speak – she and others in the party aren’t allowed to speak/hold pressers by decree of Xenophon. Well we hear this morning (via Xenophon) that despite Rebecca Sharkie apparently withdrawing her earlier support for the Government as Barnaby Joyce and Fiona Nash did not step down, well now that old Nick has been caught up in the same debacle and himself won’t step down, now Sharkie is ‘guaranteeing the government supply’.

    This entire farce is sickening. There is now care for the debt, jobs, energy security and costs…nothing. Just looking after themselves. Get stuffed the lot of you.

  59. rickw

    We’re supposed to trust them with our government and they don’t even know enough about the Constitution to confirm whether they should even be there.

    They know. It’s the arrogance of not caring.

  60. Shelley

    What I don’t understand is how these people could not have known. I am not a lawyer, although I have done some basic legal studies but somehow I became aware many years ago that if you had a mother or father born in UK, that you had that citizenship too through heredity. This is a fact. So how could they not be aware of this fact and then when nominating for parliament miss the bit about dual citizenship/renouncing another citizenship. To me it shows what shallow/non thinkers these types are. Also what about the huge party machine behind them (particularly Lib/Labor). It demonstrates sloppiness in how they attend to their personal administrative affairs.

  61. John Constantine

    We see what leftist filth have done to south australia, with the full urging of the xenofilth.

    Then consider that their xenofilth is to the left of the current scorched earth south australian despots.

    Poor fella my country.

    Financial bailouts of the third world hellhole that the left are turning south australia into must be linked to a proportional representation of senate votes, not the corrupt overweighting now.

    The rest of the country funding the de-industrialisation of south australia cannot continue.

  62. serene tiger

    I don’t trust the High Court.

  63. Rabz

    To me it shows what shallow/non thinkers these types are. It demonstrates sloppiness in how they attend to their personal administrative affairs.

    No wonder the country is rooted, in other words.

    Hey, look over there – gay marriage!

  64. Trader Perth

    These people are in breech of the Constitution of Aust. and ‘The constitution can only be changed by a referendum, but a referendum can only be initiated by legislation passed by the Australian Parliament’..
    They have to come to us , the voters very soon to gain legitimacy.

  65. Myrddin Seren

    Well we hear this morning (via Xenophon) that despite Rebecca Sharkie apparently withdrawing her earlier support for the Government as Barnaby Joyce and Fiona Nash did not step down, well now that old Nick has been caught up in the same debacle and himself won’t step down, now Sharkie is ‘guaranteeing the government supply’.

    I can’t find a link, but I saw a clip of The XyloPom on Channel Nein this morning saying:

    Yes – he has been ensnared by the Poms in their citizenship trap

    Yes – he can legally sit there while the HC decides.

    So can Barnaby under the same rules.

    However it is not right if Barnaby stays and should stand down.

    I now suspect XyloPom has done a backroom deal with Shorten to get some more free dosh for Mainland Tasmania if NXT can collapse the government without being seen to collapse the government.

    When will the Governor General take up the flag, rally the loyal troops and scourge the Parliament of this nest of carpetbaggers and foreign agents ?

  66. johanna

    Shelley, you are spot on.

    These political adventurers claim to have the wisdom to scrutinise legislation, but they can’t even do the basics about their own eligibility for office.

    Like many Cats and Kittehs, I am enjoying this schemozzle immensely. 🙂

    That said, I hope that the HC throws out any notion that changed legislation in another country can retrospectively affect the citizenship status of Australians for the purposes of being an MP. That’s just plain ridiculous.

  67. Dr Fred Lenin

    Get Andrew Lloyd Weber to write the music and we can make Aussie politics into a comic opera ,the political maggots can supp;y the lyrics. might be an international hit ?

  68. candy

    Well, I think Xenophon is laughing at us, for one. And Barnaby Joyce. I think Canavan seemed quite genuine but quit as he understood rules are rules. A bit of a sad fate for him really.

    Xenophon and Barnaby are protected by Malcolm Turnbull who needs them.

    But they are intelligent educated people who knew how to fill out a form and check out dual citizenship.
    They are not “strays” – people who don’t know where they come from and not very literate who also must fill out forms about citizenship when applying for jobs etc and struggle with stuff like that.

    There’s really no excuse for such ignorance in Xenophon and Barnaby’s case.

  69. cuckoo

    And funny when you reflect that the name ‘Xenophon’ means ‘foreigner’ in Greek. Literally: “foreign speaker”. Although, being a Brit, he isn’t a ‘foreign speaker’.

  70. H B Bear

    These political adventurers claim to have the wisdom to scrutinise legislation, but they can’t even do the basics about their own eligibility for office.

    You mean like this? When being asked about specific policy is somehow a “gotcha” moment. When your Performing Stick Insect fails to perform.

  71. old bloke

    Rob
    #2473878, posted on August 19, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    When does the full audit of all MHRs and Senators get underway?

    The Government and the Opposition are in agreement that there won’t be a full audit. I find myself agreeing with Di Natale for the first time, he wants a full audit of all Parliamentarians but the Liberals and Labor have agreed that there will be no audit.

    This is rather strange, you would think that the Labor Party would welcome an opportunity to pick up a few coalition seats (and form Government) at the resulting bi-elections, even if a few of their own members have face re-election, yet they support the Government’s “no audit” policy.

    Why?

  72. johanna

    Well spotted, Bear.

    Would the people here who wanted Julie Bishop to be PM please stand up? There were quite a few of you.

    Thought not.

    Des Deskperson and I gave you the inside info, but you just loved her PR, and were looking for a Messiah.

    Eejits.

  73. johanna

    bi-elections

    No. They are by-elections.

    Please do not import the spelling of the sexual weirdo crowd into this blog.

  74. Felix Kruell

    If you can breach s44 because you are entitled to citizenship of another country by virtue of your parents birth country (without having applied for it), the question must surely be whether merely renouncing that entitlement is enough? Surely you remain legally ‘entitled’ to that citizenship even if you renounce?

    As for Xenophon, I have more sympathy for him (and Joyce) than some others. He was caught out by the vagarities of citizenship law in disputed territories. He went to the trouble of formally renouncing his Greek and Cypriot citizenship rights. There’s no doubt if he was aware that his fathers birth also gave rise to a right to UK citizenship he would have renounced it. I hope the high court will differentiate between these unilateral citizenship rights and those applied for.

  75. Spring is near

    So theorectically a foreign power can change its laws, claim citizenry over our beloved rulers and distabilize our govment.

    And i thought they just had to sign up to the UN.

  76. billie

    Is Labor senator Dougie “whutaboothewuckers!” a pom?
    Sounds like one
    I’d kick in a couple of $ to check

  77. billie

    Cameron, Dougie Cameron .. his name always eludes me, it’s like my mind switches off at the first dulcet tones.

  78. Dr Fred Lenin

    Old Bloke I think the career polliemuppets are circling he wagons they cannot have awkward things like real law and truth upsetting the aparat they have spent years creating. For their own benefit of course . Its like Trump upsetting the aparat in Washington never mind the voters ,what about our careers ? Another danger for them is if the new guys start probing past actions by the aparat that could lead to a lot of jail time for a lot the aparatchiks . The political elites are on a treadmill ,if they stop running they are stuffed we should help trip the bastards up , malcolm ruddbull prime monster of the illegal parliament .

  79. old bloke

    johanna
    #2474321, posted on August 20, 2017 at 10:54 am

    Please do not import the spelling of the sexual weirdo crowd into this blog.

    Casting an eye over numerous of the Honourable Members, I think bi-elections might be quite appropriate.

  80. Stimpson J. Cat

    He has to go back.
    Farewell my greasy little weasel.

  81. old bloke

    Dr Fred Lenin
    #2474376, posted on August 20, 2017 at 11:56 am

    Fred, the Labor Party stands to gain from any by-elections (or bi-elections), I don’t know why they won’t stand with the Greens and demand a full audit of all Parliamentarians. They only need to pick up a few seats to form government, and if they fail, they have, at the least, embarrassed the Government.

  82. Up The Workers!

    Has Pommy/Cypriot Nick Xylophone ever been investigated for erecting a front fence for the Right Dishonourable Professor Doctor (with the receipts to prove it) Juliar Gillard O.A.; D.C.M. (Order of the Arse; Don’t Come Monday)?

    Other than for her use of the word: “Big”, he seems to fit her description of a dodgy contractor of the Greek persuasion.

  83. Is there anybody in parliament who didn’t have parents or grandparents who just arrived?
    Are there any fair dinkum Australians there at all?
    Heck, there’s enough of them born overseas.

  84. Louis Hissink

    This issue can be made more complex – it is accepted in Islamic societies that once born into such a culture, one is a Muslim and leaving it to convert to another faith/religion is forbidden etc. If one is born in a Catholic family, is baptised (is there any choice in the matter?) can one leave that religion? Or any religion with out being punished for apostasy or some other theological sin, whether in the here and now or after death in the metaphysical sense? (I suspect the late Padraic McGuinness would be in hell according to his Catholic family and peers, so there’s no escaping theological retribution).

    Is it thus possible to be born stateless? And if one is, then where would live? The moon?

    Are Amazonian tribal natives unknown to civilisation stateless?

  85. notafan

    If one is born in a Catholic family, is baptised (is there any choice in the matter?) can one leave that religion?

    You can’t get unbaptised but there is no death sentence for apostasy and you are free to renounce the Catholic faith as you wish.

    What happened to Padraic McGuinness is between him and a merciful God.

  86. Mother Lode

    I thought in its strictest interpretation in Islam you were believed to be born Muslim, with all the obligations that entailed. Baptism into the Catholic Church would be an act of an apostate. I suspect any number acts prior to that would have made you an apostate already – like not soiling your nappy the way Mohammad laid out in the pooh sura.

  87. Andrew M.

    Now here’s a funny thing, if you’re into either ageism or free trade.
    http://imgur.com/gallery/umhYY

    I’m inclined to agree with the commentators saying these are just industries that are failing to adapt to changing consumer demand. However I disagree with their description of this as “capitalism” as this is an outcome of free trade regardless of the ownership of the productive factors.

  88. Combine Dave

    Entering parliament/senate under false pretences while a dual citizenship should be punished by deportation 🙂

  89. Pedro the Ignorant

    The greasy headed Grik shall forever more be known as “Xylopom”. 🙂

  90. Diogenes

    . He went to the trouble of formally renouncing his Greek and Cypriot citizenship rights. There’s no

    He hasn’t properly renounced his greek citizenship. Just declaring it is not enough. Under greek law he has to do national service, which he ain’t done

  91. Felix Kruell

    Under greek law he has to do national service, which he ain’t done

    You have to do military service in order to renounce your citizenship? That sounds crazy…

  92. Another old bloke

    #2474096, posted on August 20, 2017 at 12:27 am
    For that reason alone every one of them that’s been pulled up by this farce deserves everything they get (except – just possibly – Barnaby, who can’t be held responsible if he did everything correctly but then New Zealand amended their laws to make him a citizen).

    Point is, he didn’t. He asked his mum and dad. Took no legal advice whatsoever.

    My initial reaction to all this was that they had all breached s44(i) and would be given the Bob Day treatment. But I’ve come to the sad conclusion that the High Court will probably wait for the paint to dry and let them all walk out of the corner. To do anything else would be just too hard.

    All of this has happened because the writers of the Constitution relied on the self-discipline of honourable politicians and candidates unborn at that time. That was the first mistake.

  93. Haidee

    A Catholic is free to renounce the faith. Lapsed Catholics usually can’t be bothered making an effort; but you can count on renouncers to be on the bitter and twisted side.

    “the writers of the Constitution relied on the self-discipline of honourable …. candidates unborn…”
    Isn’t that the truth

  94. Diogenes

    Felix,
    Not the only country. Iran requires it as well.

    Insane or not, rulez is rulez

  95. Up The Workers!

    Australian Citizenship?

    Its all Greek to Nick the Xylopom!

    P.S. – to any aspiring cave-dwellers in the Jurassic Weatherdill’s post-electricity South Australia, PLEASE nail down the lids on those barrels in the Snowtown bank vault more securely.

    After the Weatherdill, Nick Xylopom, the Wong chap, Sarah Halfwit-Bung and the Right Dishonourable Professor Doctor (with the receipts to prove it) Juliar Gillard O.A.; D.C.M. (Order of the Arse; Don’t Come Monday), we don’t know what manner of abomination is likely to slither out of there next.

  96. Leo G

    Senator Xenophon confirmed today that the British Home Office notified him overnight he was a “British Overseas Citizen,” due to his father’s birth in the then British territory of Cyprus.

    Proposed Cat dictionary neologism:-
    xenopwn (intransitive verb): To be humiliated by a foreign adversary. Example: Senator Xenophon was xenopwned by the British Home Office official.

  97. candy

    Notice how Nick Xenophon never ever mentions the pokies now. Nothing. After the huge grandstanding. He has completely forgotten about that issue.

    It just shows that there are no principles there. He likes himself, to hear himself, to see himself on TV.

    But principles and core values – no, there’s not much there at all. You can see he thinks he is above the dual citizenship thing – because he is Nick Xenophon and that to him is special and above.

  98. Crossie

    Are any bets being taken that when this gets to the High Court they will all come out smelling of roses, after all who in Parliament follows the law these days.

    Which will bring into disrepute both institutions and confirm to the average Australians that there are two sets of laws, one set for the elites and another for the hoi polloi. Even if we think our pollies are far from elite they see themselves as such and they have the upper hand.

  99. Rabz

    He likes himself, to hear himself, to see himself on TV

    Pity no one else does. Again, this is a squalid ali situation. I am not remotely interested in anything that slimy little greek piece of excrement has to say about anything and anyone who does is as big an idiot as he is.

    I just want these stupid destructive narcissist numpties out of my life and out of my wallet.

  100. EJ

    Ok…I would like to know… is this senator’s real surname Xenophon OR Xenophou? Apparently born Xenophou, why the name change? Was this change done legally or is there something else to hide by changing one letter just casually. I hope all avenues have checked thoroughly this discrepancy?
    There is history regarding his father…would the mud stick.

  101. Felix Kruell

    Insane or not, rulez is rulez

    Oh the irony! Forcing someone to fight for another country in order to renounce their citizenship in that country, in order to validly become a member of the Australian Senate.

  102. Haidee

    Xenophou/phon is one of the many who change the name to make it less foreign-funny.
    Anastasia P (and father) with the absurdly fancified “Pallashay”.
    Joe Hockey, Anglo-Saxonised

    Obviously a lot these win pre-selection because of their appeal to voters also born in oldhomecountries.
    The ones who change their names want it both ways.

    No to all dual citizenship

  103. rebel with cause

    The ones who change their names want it both ways.

    Just like those cheeky ‘Windsors’ eh?

  104. Crossie

    We’re supposed to trust them with our government and they don’t even know enough about the Constitution to confirm whether they should even be there.

    We expected the dumbing down of the electorate due to poor educational standards to show up in future generations and now we find that it works retrospectively.

  105. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Oh the irony! Forcing someone to fight for another country in order to renounce their citizenship in that country, in order to validly become a member of the Australian Senate.

    “National service is the obligation of every citizen, and is an obligation that must be fulfilled before you can renounce that citizenship?”

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