Monday Forum: August 21, 2017

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  1. test pattern

    Here’s video of Tony Abbott being smoked – a trad welcome to country – at Doon Doon yesterday. Smoking strangers to country gets rid of their strange smell, allows country to recognise them and protects them from sickness. Not that I think Abbott is smelly or that he’s a pom who washes once a week or anything like that.

    https://www.facebook.com/TonyAbbottMP/videos/10155883422398646/

  2. incoherent rambler

    and a commitment to power the state’s tram network entirely from solar power.

    6 o’clock and all is dark.

  3. stackja

    Cactus
    #2477226, posted on August 23, 2017 at 1:29 pm
    stackja

    #2477209, posted on August 23, 2017 at 1:10 pm
    Gospels don’t record any mention of SSM.

    I accept that stackja & therefore I accept that Christians or their Church’s may choose to be free not to recognise a marriage or to perform a ceremony. Or to even object to a friends marriage by not attending etc. People should be free in my view to do these things.

    But while Jesus may not have married 2 blokes or may have viewed their behaviour as sinful, I don’t think he would shun them. I think Jesus would show them as much warmth and compassion as anyone else.

    In that context a secular society could have separate legal secular marriages & also allow Christians to practice what they want (i.e. have a Christian marriage) without the world falling asunder is my point.

    Christ didn’t shun the sinners. Said sin no more.
    SSM lobby want SSM and the Christian world falling asunder.

  4. H B Bear

    Is the Old Lezzo Australia’s greatest political floater?

  5. Mother Lode

    Fairfax Media has learned that former independent MP Tony Windsor has made a submission to the High Court for permission to appear because he was the second-placed candidate in the contest for the seat of New England in 2016.

    What has that got to do with it?

    The case before the court is about whether Bananas is Australian. What could Windbag have to offer.

    And, in fact, so what if he was second. Doesn’t mean he should suddenly get the seat. Could be the third place-getter lost votes to Bananas and, without him they would have scored more votes and beaten Windbag.

    The slimy little shit is always looking for an angle. And getting his arse into this dysfunctional parliament would look like a fucking banquet.

  6. stackja

    The grandparents and great-grandparents of Tony Windsor were pictures of Victorian respectability. But his great-great-grandfather, Charles Dunn, leaps out of the pages of history like some villainous Dickensian character.

    He was born in Hackney, east London, in 1805 to Charles and Esther Dunn. In April of 1826 Charles jnr and his brother Joseph, found themselves in front of the magistrate at the Old Bailey for stealing bed linen still wet from a washing line. After a short stint in the prison hulk York, where their behaviour was described as ”very bad”, Charles was transported to NSW aboard the Midas, arriving in Sydney in 1827.

  7. C.L.

    My current favourite work-out music.

    Stayin’ in Black – The Bee Gees Staying Alive + AC/DC Back in Black Mashup

    That’s pretty cool.

  8. Farmer Gez

    More quality ABC journalism on the World Today.
    Story on US naval collision near Singapore.
    Journo pronounced USS Antietam Ante Tam. Civil War buffs or any journo should know it’s pronounced An Teatam.
    Pedantic I know but stuff the self righteous pricks.

  9. stackja

    Farmer Gez
    #2477244, posted on August 23, 2017 at 1:49 pm
    More quality ABC journalism on the World Today.
    Story on US naval collision near Singapore.
    Journo pronounced USS Antietam Ante Tam. Civil War buffs or any journo should know it’s pronounced An Teatam.
    Pedantic I know but stuff the self righteous pricks.

    ABC pronunciation guide is out of print.

  10. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    leftism er en psykisk lidelse

  11. Cactus

    Well C.L. I think you give a good summary there on the Christian view. Sure.

    But what should a secular society do on marriage? Shouldn’t SSM be allowed if society deems it wants it? If I am a freedom loving Libertarian shouldn’t I be in favour of it even if I am a devout Christian because I shouldn’t want my views (or anyone elses) to be pushed onto others?

    I have been a no on this issue & turning into a soft yes. I am trying to explore my views here.

  12. calli

    I do find it interesting those that invoke Christian teaching on the whole SS issue. I ask a simple question, how do you think Jesus would treat someone he met who is in a SS relationship or has attraction etc?

    Cactus, it’s reasonable to expect the same reaction as the one to the woman caught in adultery in John 8. She was about to be stoned to death, the same punishment doled out at that time to homosexuals.

    Jesus questioned the motives and righteousness of her accusers, then told her to go away and stop sinning.

  13. incoherent rambler

    After the inro. to Highway to Hell I’m ready for most things.

  14. John64

    Is the Old Lezzo Australia’s greatest political floater?

    I thought Barnaby had finally flushed him once and for all last year; but apparently not.

    Now I think he’s likely to go around a few more times yet; he’s guaranteed at least 15% of the vote whenever he runs in New England, a nice little earner from the AEC to help keep the superannuation topped up.

  15. Lysander

    But while Jesus may not have married 2 blokes or may have viewed their behaviour as sinful, I don’t think he would shun them. I think Jesus would show them as much warmth and compassion as anyone else.

    Sorry Cactus but I don’t “buy” the Buddy Christ and Jesus is everyone’s friend.

    Jesus did a lot of “mean” things; he condemned a fig tree to death because it wouldn’t give him figs (in the wrong season as well), referred to Pilate as a fox, got violent at the synagogue and smashed all the money-changers tables*, told a divorced woman her husband was the devil, called several people hypocrites etc…

    *Matthew 23: “You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?

    But the term, “love the sinner, hate the sin” comes to mind.

  16. Lysander

    (But obviously it’s homophobic to refer to homosexuality as sin)

  17. Nick

    Wasn’t Windsor too sick at one stage to run for office? I know for sure had it been Abbott or a Priest who had belted schoolmates with a crop, the ABC would have been all over it.

  18. .

    Les Dingo

    Please. You may as well start quoting Ripping Yarns as authoritative as to how the British Empire really operated.

  19. calli

    Just calling sin sin triggers people, Lysander.

    We now make “mistakes” and try to hide behind a fig leaf.

  20. Rabz

    Monday is a Cat free day for me nota.

    That’s because it’s Rusty’s shift supervising the USRR team.

  21. H B Bear

    Geoffrey Luck gives the ALPBC staff co-op a whack over on Quadrant and knocks it out of the park,

    Grant’s unsubtle stirring divides Australia by perpetrating the myth of Aboriginal cultural equality. He dares not admit that, for the civilised world, Australia and its stone-age inhabitants simply did not exist. He will not acknowledge that, as the skilled navigator mapped the east coast of Australia, he was meeting nomadic peoples who culturally, socially, economically and technologically had merely marked time for fifty thousand years.

  22. Lysander

    We now make “mistakes” and try to hide behind a fig leaf.

    I see what you did there Calli 🙂

  23. stackja

    Cactus
    #2477250, posted on August 23, 2017 at 1:54 pm
    Well C.L. I think you give a good summary there on the Christian view. Sure.

    But what should a secular society do on marriage? Shouldn’t SSM be allowed if society deems it wants it? If I am a freedom loving Libertarian shouldn’t I be in favour of it even if I am a devout Christian because I shouldn’t want my views (or anyone elses) to be pushed onto others?

    I have been a no on this issue & turning into a soft yes. I am trying to explore my views here.

    Yes will be No to any further talk of marriage.

  24. incoherent rambler

    The government of Australia has been taken over surreptitiously by foreigners, can we revolt now?

  25. stackja

    H B Bear
    #2477263, posted on August 23, 2017 at 2:05 pm
    Geoffrey Luck gives the ALPBC staff co-op a whack over on Quadrant and knocks it out of the park,

    Grant’s unsubtle stirring divides Australia by perpetrating the myth of Aboriginal cultural equality. He dares not admit that, for the civilised world, Australia and its stone-age inhabitants simply did not exist. He will not acknowledge that, as the skilled navigator mapped the east coast of Australia, he was meeting nomadic peoples who culturally, socially, economically and technologically had merely marked time for fifty thousand years.

    Would any Aboriginal culture have survived another European countries rule?
    Where are there any Aboriginal culture in Europe? USA was British and may have lead to the survival of Aboriginal culture there despite various ‘problems’.

  26. But what should a secular society do on marriage? Shouldn’t SSM be allowed if society deems it wants it? If I am a freedom loving Libertarian shouldn’t I be in favour of it even if I am a devout Christian because I shouldn’t want my views (or anyone elses) to be pushed onto others?

    How about this:

    What should a secular society do about the child in utero? Shouldn’t abortion be allowed if society deems it wants it? If I am a freedom loving libertarian shouldn’t I be in favour of abortion even if I am a devout Christian because I shouldn’t want my views (or anyone elses) o be pushed on to others?

    Do you see the problem with your position. Also, if marriage is redefined, isn’t that imposing the opponent’s view of marriage upon all and as a matter of law?

  27. Yes will be No to any further talk of marriage.

    Indeed. The UK is demonstrating that by the day.

  28. John64

    Wasn’t Windsor too sick at one stage to run for office?

    On 26 June 2013 Windsor announced that he would not be contesting the 2013 election; partly due to an undisclosed medical condition.

    Which was utter bullshit; he knew the voters were coming after him with pitchforks after he propped up the worst Government in Australia’s history for 3 years and he didn’t have the courage to face the judgement of the people.

    On 10 March 2016, Windsor announced his intention to contest his former seat of New England as an independent candidate at the 2016 election.

    This time, sniffing blood after the disastrous Waffleworth Coup, he ran again and despite TheirABC shamelessly electioneering for him for 3 months couldn’t manage better than 40.6% of the 2PP vote.

  29. stackja

    dover_beach
    #2477272, posted on August 23, 2017 at 2:16 pm
    Yes will be No to any further talk of marriage.

    Indeed. The UK is demonstrating that by the day.

    Yes!

  30. Senile Old Guy

    But what should a secular society do on marriage? Shouldn’t SSM be allowed if society deems it wants it? If I am a freedom loving Libertarian shouldn’t I be in favour of it even if I am a devout Christian because I shouldn’t want my views (or anyone elses) to be pushed onto others?

    I’m agnostic and I am firmly in the “no” camp because I know (having watched from here what happened in Canada) that a “yes” will (not might) let the left harass and sue anyone who does not bow down to “gay marriage”. Note that, even without gay marriage, people, especially religious people, are reported to the notorious HRC for saying marriage is between a man and a woman.

    Vote “no”.

  31. incoherent rambler

    Comment of the week at quadrant by Homer Sapien (I like the moniker almost as much as Lance Boil).
    Smoke ’em baby!

    Homer Sapien
    August 23, 2017 at 2:05 pm

    A “smoking ceremony” for the ABC would be in order?

  32. Cactus

    dover_beach

    #2477271, posted on August 23, 2017 at 2:15 pm

    What should a secular society do about the child in utero? Shouldn’t abortion be allowed if society deems it wants it? If I am a freedom loving libertarian shouldn’t I be in favour of abortion even if I am a devout Christian because I shouldn’t want my views (or anyone elses) o be pushed on to others?

    Well my principle for my views is that you should be free to do whatever you want, but only so long as your freedom to do that doesn’t impinge on someone else’s freedom to same. Under that principle, SSM would be a yes and abortion a no.

    So therefore a don’t see a problem with my position.

  33. stackja

    Cactus
    #2477277, posted on August 23, 2017 at 2:21 pm
    dover_beach

    #2477271, posted on August 23, 2017 at 2:15 pm

    What should a secular society do about the child in utero? Shouldn’t abortion be allowed if society deems it wants it? If I am a freedom loving libertarian shouldn’t I be in favour of abortion even if I am a devout Christian because I shouldn’t want my views (or anyone elses) o be pushed on to others?

    Well my principle for my views is that you should be free to do whatever you want, but only so long as your freedom to do that doesn’t impinge on someone else’s freedom to same. Under that principle, SSM would be a yes and abortion a no.

    So therefore a don’t see a problem with my position.

    You will be compelled to do what the SSM lobby decides.

  34. johanna

    sTan Grant claims that we are the only Commonwealth country not to have a treaty with the indigenes. What an ignoramus he is.

    Fifty two countries are members of the Commonwealth. Our countries span Africa, Asia, the Americas, Europe and the Pacific and are diverse – they are amongst the world’s largest, smallest, richest and poorest countries. Thirty-one of our members are classified as small states – countries with a population size of 1.5 million people or less and larger member states that share similar characteristics with them.

    The list goes from Antigua and Barbuda to Zambia. How many of them have “treaties,” sTan?

    If statements like that are indicative of his level of research and expertise as a journalist, he has obviously been peddling nonsense for his entire career.

  35. My great Uncle served against the Italians in North Africa. He described the infantry as “not particularly interested in dying for Il Duce, but you only ever underestimated their artillery once – the first, and last time.”

    It was a cheap shot, but I do not recoil from my comment (puns intended 🙂 )

  36. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    venstrefløjen er en psykisk sygdom

  37. Mother Lode

    Cactus seems to be talking about society as consisting of the secular non-religious people only. If this set wants something it should be legal.

    But people with religious sensibilities are part of society too, and are just as entitled to mold it as anyone else.

  38. Well my principle for my views is that you should be free to do whatever you want, but only so long as your freedom to do that doesn’t impinge on someone else’s freedom to same. Under that principle, SSM would be a yes and abortion a no.

    That wasn’t what you said earlier. Still, why does that freedom include the use of the state to redefine marriage? And if marriage can be redefined why not what counts as a human being?

  39. Cactus

    Mother Lode -> I think religious people are just as entitle to shape society as non religious. And I think their religious freedom should be protected. With respect, I think you misconstrue my points.

    stackja said “You will be compelled to do what the SSM lobby decides.” – this is a bit that makes me a bit worried and why I am soft yes. I could still vote no on this issue because of this. I really don’t like this side of bullying I am witnessing. Or the implication that if you vote no you are a bigot.

  40. test pattern

    ‘Would any Aboriginal culture have survived another European countries rule?’

    Francois de Saint-Allouarn annexed WA for France at Turtle Bay in 1772. The French certainly would have eaten natives. Native frogs would now be extinct. Limnodynastes Dumerili better known as the Pobblebonk would’ve become the Gobble-with-plonk.

  41. Mother Lode

    Well, it is easy to misconstrue the ambiguous.

    How else to make sense of talking about what ‘society’ wants as a reason for people of faith to get out of the way.

  42. Slayer of Memes

    ESPN has pulled a commentator from its sports calling line-up due to concerns about his name during current crisis over Confederates…

    ESPN pulls Asian-American sportscaster Robert Lee from University of Virginia football game over similarity to Confederate general’s name

    No, you read that correctly… They pulled as ASIAN man from their line-up because his name SOUNDS LIKE that of a Confederate general…

    Lee was slated to call UVA’s home opener in Charlottesville, Virginia against William and Mary on September 2, but has been transferred to cover Youngstown State at Pittsburgh, an ESPN official told DailyMail.com.

    ‘We collectively made the decision with Robert to switch games as the tragic events in Charlottesville were unfolding, simply because of the coincidence of his name,’ ESPN said in a statement.

    This is what Antifa has lead to. Outright racism against Asians because they have a name that MIGHT be confused with that of a person who died over 100 years ago…

    But tell us again how it’s the right-wing who are the racist, xenophobic fascists again….

  43. A Lurker

    Mother Lode -> I think religious people are just as entitle to shape society as non religious. And I think their religious freedom should be protected. With respect, I think you misconstrue my points.

    stackja said “You will be compelled to do what the SSM lobby decides.” – this is a bit that makes me a bit worried and why I am soft yes. I could still vote no on this issue because of this. I really don’t like this side of bullying I am witnessing. Or the implication that if you vote no you are a bigot.

    If SSM is passed into law by the Coalition, they ‘might’ put in protections for the religious.

    It is unlikely that there will be protections for the non-religious who hold traditional views about the family and marriage, doing so for some other reason – moral, philosophical, whatever.

    Once SSM is passed into law and when Labor/Greens get in you can be assured that any protections will vanish like a drop of water on a hot summer road. This is because at heart the SSM matter is all about destroying the church/Western traditions, than equality or love.

    If your vote is Yes, then you are effectively giving the totalitarians the green light to further shaft our society and freedoms.

  44. test pattern

    Aboriginal hero of resistance and agent of change

    Dooley Bin Bin (Winyirin)

    ‘He and his kinsman Clancy McKenna sought a minimum wage of thirty shillings per week for Aboriginal station-hands and planned a mass withdrawal of labour if the request were refused. The movement challenged pastoralists in the Pilbara and was to have wider repercussions for politicians, trade unionists and clergymen. To Bin Bin, who was impatient to act, and McKenna fell the tasks of co­ordinating the protest and of holding the waverers firmly to the cause. On 1 May 1946 workers from some two dozen Pilbara stations walked out. The initial wave of strikes lasted until late 1948.

    While the issues of wages and working conditions were important in triggering the boycott, Bin Bin and other strikers such as Daisy Bindi strove to dismantle wider social injustices which had been legally perpetuated by the Aborigines Acts of 1905 and 1936. The three strike leaders, Dooley, McKenna and McLeod, were arrested early in May 1946 (the two Aborigines being sentenced to three months’ hard labour) for `enticing’ Aborigines from their places of employment. They received wide support when human-rights activists lobbied on their behalf. Amendments made to the Native Administration Act in 1954 were probably influenced by these events.

    After his early release from gaol in June, Bin Bin was part of a group, led by McLeod and established as Nomads Pty Ltd, which attempted to set up Aboriginal mining and residential co-operatives in the Pilbara. Eventually it acquired Strelley station near Port Hedland; Bin Bin lived there as a senior member of the `Strelley mob’.

    http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/bin-bin-dooley-winyirin-12210

  45. Qld Police Commissioner has apologised to Jade Buddha over Police asking then to break the law.

  46. Mother Lode

    This is what Antifa has lead to. Outright racism against Asians because they have a name that MIGHT be confused with that of a person who died over 100 years ago…

    I remember reading years ago that a senior police officer in Britain had to apologise to a class he had addressed.

    Some of the attendees had complained that he used a racially insensitive word which had caused them offense.

    The word? “Niggardly”.

    The word is actually of Scandinavian origin and has nothing to do with the Latin ‘nigrum’, but that did not matter. What he said had no connection at all with race or colour, but he still had to apologise.

    I remember thinking at the time that Britain was in serious decline.

  47. stackja

    Supporters of men accused of planning terror attack refuse to stand in court
    Wayne Flower, Herald Sun
    27 minutes ago
    Subscriber only
    A GROUP of people who refused to stand for the magistrate presiding over a preliminary hearing over an alleged Christmas Day terror plot have been branded disrespectful by the court.

    Magistrate Peter Mealy took the group on after a Herald Sun report today alerted him that the group of mostly female supporters had previously refused to stand on him taking the bench.

  48. C.L.

    Which was utter bullshit; he knew the voters were coming after him with pitchforks after he propped up the worst Government in Australia’s history for 3 years and he didn’t have the courage to face the judgement of the people.

    Correct.

  49. C.L.

    A GROUP of people who refused to stand for the magistrate presiding over a preliminary hearing over an alleged Christmas Day terror plot have been branded disrespectful by the court.

    Magistrate Peter Mealy took the group on after a Herald Sun report today alerted him that the group of mostly female supporters had previously refused to stand on him taking the bench.

    I’m sorry but he didn’t take the group on at all.
    He should have jailed them.

  50. Snoopy

    Qld Police Commissioner has apologised to Jade Buddha over Police asking then to break the law.

    This incoherent report indicates police flouted the law through the unlawful exercise of naked power.

  51. stackja

    Cactus
    #2477285, posted on August 23, 2017 at 2:34 pm
    Mother Lode -> I think religious people are just as entitle to shape society as non religious. And I think their religious freedom should be protected. With respect, I think you misconstrue my points.

    stackja said “You will be compelled to do what the SSM lobby decides.” – this is a bit that makes me a bit worried and why I am soft yes. I could still vote no on this issue because of this. I really don’t like this side of bullying I am witnessing. Or the implication that if you vote no you are a bigot.

    Mar 23, 2014 – Attorney-General George Brandis has defended the Government’s plan to amend a key part of the nation’s racial discrimination laws, saying people have “a right to be bigots”

    Brandis was right saying this, then went wrong.

  52. A Lurker

    It’s all about guilt trippin’.

    One of our readers was sitting next to a group of gay marriage activists in an inner-Sydney cafe.
    They were talking strategy and focus group outcomes and our reader made some notes:

    Campaign needs to:
    – inject more guilt
    – “guilt will win this for us”
    – push polling – when people say no, ask them to explain why.
    – use Abbott’s sister in campaign advertising. “Exploit Abbott family situation that it’s ok for families to disagree”
    – need a gay guy to explain death rights with partner – if we can’t find one, “need like thinking actor to make believable”.
    – Lyle and ACL criticism is not cutting through for yes campaign. Need to make it about the churches.
    – start using george pell quotes in social : out of touch etc.
    – need to use more women with children in campaign material as “men are a turn off in the focus groups”.
    – activate our media partners to shift language back to equality debate.

  53. val majkus

    Fairfax Media has learned that former independent MP Tony Windsor has made a submission to the High Court for permission to appear because he was the second-placed candidate in the contest for the seat of New England in 2016.

    exciting days for Tony! Surprised he’s still interested …

  54. Baldrick

    Not that you’d know by reading the story from TheirABC, but Terry Martin was a Labor MP-

    Government reaches confidential settlement with woman over sex abuse damages claim:
    A young Tasmanian woman believed to have been sexually abused by more than 100 men when she was a child has reached an out-of-court settlement with the State Government. The girl was prostituted out by her mother and her mother’s pimp boyfriend, Gary John Devine, in 2009, when she was just 12 years old.
    Her abusers included former Tasmanian MP and Glenorchy mayor Terry Martin, who avoided jail time after receiving a suspended sentence of 10 months in 2011.
    The woman, who would now be aged between 19 and 20 years old, lodged a legal claim for damages against the Government in June last year. Details of the settlement, reached earlier this month, are confidential, meaning the amount of compensation awarded to the woman will remain unknown.
    Martin was one of only three men, including Gary John Devine, to be prosecuted over the girl’s case.

  55. Mother Lode

    Brandis was right saying this, then went wrong.

    At the time I was hoping he was going to use this as a teaching moment – explaining that people can think what they like, and even do what they like in their private life, but they cannot break existing laws. They could not refuse to employ black people, or victimise them, or make himself a nuisance or what have you.

    He didn’t. He just sat back and let Fauxfacts and the ABC go to town.

  56. stackja

    C.L.
    #2477304, posted on August 23, 2017 at 3:16 pm

    Victorian Attorney-General Martin Pakula would intervene and free the ‘poor misunderstood things’.

  57. notafan

    Justice Porter found although the prostitution of the girl was “deplorable”, Martin would not have sought out unlawful sexual intercourse with the child had it not been for medication he was taking at the time for Parkinson’s disease, and, he was unlikely to reoffend.

    Bizarre

    This is a common side affect of medications for Parkinson’s disease?

    Another Labor abuser, RC now!

  58. Diogenes

    Fmd . Just spotted the first Christmas decorations up in a shopping centre.

  59. stackja

    Mother Lode
    #2477314, posted on August 23, 2017 at 3:24 pm
    Brandis was right saying this, then went wrong.

    At the time I was hoping he was going to use this as a teaching moment – explaining that people can think what they like, and even do what they like in their private life, but they cannot break existing laws. They could not refuse to employ black people, or victimise them, or make himself a nuisance or what have you.

    He didn’t. He just sat back and let Fauxfacts and the ABC go to town.

    And cried about PHON getting into a ‘sack’.

  60. stackja

    Diogenes
    #2477318, posted on August 23, 2017 at 3:27 pm
    Fmd . Just spotted the first Christmas decorations up in a shopping centre.

    Getting in before the ban?

  61. cohenite

    stan grant:

    History itself becomes a hymn to whiteness.

    This is what Captain Cook’s statue in Sydney’s Hyde Park tells us.

    The inscription that Cook “Discovered this territory 1770” maintains a damaging myth, a belief in the superiority of white Christendom that devastated indigenous peoples everywhere.

    White Christendom is superior: it gave birth to Western democracy the best type of society.

    And aboriginal society is not devastated because of white society; it’s seeds of destruction lie within itself.

  62. notafan

    White Christendom is superior:

    As CL pointed out,

    Christendom is not synonymous with whiteness and we should not buy into that paradigm of theirs.

    It goes with brown muslim and it is a nonsense.

    Religion is not intrinsic to race.

  63. test pattern

    ‘And aboriginal society is not devastated because of white society; it’s seeds of destruction lie within itself.’

    So it must have self destructed before whites arrived. Strange then how it thrived during centuries of contact and exchange with the trepang fleet from Sulawesi. Dickhead.

  64. H B Bear

    Not that you’d know by reading the story from TheirABC, but Terry Martin was a Labor MP-

    Clearly the ALPBC staff co-op regards some historical sex offences as newsworthy. I wonder if Editor-in-Chief Googles G can explain that to us.

  65. incoherent rambler

    Strange then how it thrived during centuries of contact …

    Yes, I too noticed the libraries, water storage, statues and school halls.

  66. Geriatric Mayfly

    PC push takes stunning turn
    2:45PM
    The furore over Confederate general Robert E. Lee has forced a sports commentator with the same name off the air.

    His next incarnation could be one of those living statues, which I recall was a piece of theatre in itself.

  67. H B Bear

    Yeah Testes the aboriginals were killing it. Right of the cusp of a sea-slug driven revolution.

  68. notafan

    These two must have used their own car, still blame it on Pauline

    Subway bailed up by burka bird

  69. thefrolickingmole

    Strange then how it thrived

    It learnt nothing, and forgot nothing in 60,000 years of thriving…

  70. thefrolickingmole

    Oh dear, da youf what are supposed to be passionate about bum buggery and staff arent quite passionate enough to actually…you know…enroll to vote about it.

    Marriage equality advocates fear young people are not enrolling for survey
    Electoral commission says there have been far more changes to details than new enrolments and advocates worry young voters will miss deadline

    Undoubtedly its because they feel just TOO DAMN STRONGLY to do anything more than facechook about it.

  71. notafan

    Plenty of adverts on JJJ

    Maybe the inertia is because don’t give a damn?

  72. Religion is not intrinsic to race.

    The majority of Christians worldwide are not white. Makes the left even more racist (if that is possible) don’t it?

  73. rickw

    And aboriginal society is not devastated because of white society; it’s seeds of destruction lie within itself.

    Aboriginal society could have been devastated by virtually any other society on the planet 100 years either side of Cooks arrival, that’s some achievement.

    Most other societies would also have been far less sympathetic to them. I couldn’t see invading Papua New Guineans exercising much restraint.

  74. A Lurker

    Yes, I too noticed the libraries, water storage, statues and school halls.

    And the many pottery sherds littering the Australian landscape which pointed to a vibrant Aboriginal pottery industry…

  75. thefrolickingmole

    notafan

    I did see one complaint from a millennial that the AEC website wouldnt accept their attempt to enroll, but Im sure if that was the main problem the ABC etc would have been all over it.

  76. jupes

    So it must have self destructed before whites arrived.

    Life in totalitarian Aboriginal Australia was brutal and short. It was hardly “thriving”.

  77. Geriatric Mayfly

    Subway bailed up by burka bird
    Karen, whose granddaughter works at the eatery, says police viewed CCTV footage on Sunday morning and were shocked to see the burqa-clad suspect.

    Not as shocked and as woebegone as Brandis would have been, had he dropped by for fodder.

  78. thefrolickingmole

    Escalate you say…?

    Donald Trump has signalled his willingness to pardon former sheriff Joe Arpaio over his conviction for intentionally disobeying a judge’s order in an immigration case.

    The US president suggested he would pardon Arpaio in front of a crowd at a rally in Phoenix on Tuesday evening.

    Addressing the crowd Trump said: “Do the people in this room like Sheriff Joe?” His question was followed by cheers and chants of “Pardon Joe!”

    He added: “Was Sheriff Joe convicted for doing his job? He should have had a jury. I’ll make a prediction. I think he’s going to be just fine.

    But the president stopped short of pardoning Arpaio, telling the crowd, to their visible disappointment: “But I won’t do it tonight because I don’t want to cause any controversy.”

    Troll level, over 9000!!!

  79. rickw

    Karen, whose granddaughter works at the eatery, says police viewed CCTV footage on Sunday morning and were shocked to see the burqa-clad suspect.

    And the CCTV footage and all subsequent footage revealed nothing and no individual though anything was odd because sack wearing is A OK.

  80. Snoopy

    The attractions of a humble cup of tea and a plate of hot stew likely put more stress on Aboriginal society than anything else.

  81. Baldrick

    How can these people think so little of their religious garments?

    Pauline Hanson ✔ @PaulineHansonOz
    BURQA ROBBERY | A Croydon store has been robbed by a person in a burqa style head covering.
    LINK:heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order…

    From the Hun link:

    A CROYDON takeaway has been robbed by a person wearing a burqa, police say.
    Maroondah detectives have charged a man, and a woman is being interviewed, after the fast-food outlet in Main St was targeted on Saturday afternoon.
    A 38-year-old Frankston man has been charged with armed robbery and other related offences.

  82. notafan

    Pointing at trade by a small percentage of people living on the north coast is hardly indicative for the rest of the people living on this vast continent, besides which it is hard to believe that that trading relationship was always amicable and we have posted here scholarly materials that suggest that it was not.

    Survived, not thrived would be more accurate.

    A more hideous existence as a female of the species would be hard to imagine.

    Stone age life expectancy would have been on average, what, 30 years?

  83. Pedro the Ignorant

    Triggleypuff, suffering from relevance deprivation, is up on her trotters at ANU declaring that Australians are cowering in fear of reffos and pooves and hiding behind religious freedom to stop pillow biters “marrying” and allowing massive hordes of swarthy types open slather at Centrelink.

    Her “retirement” didn’t last long, did it?

    (from the Paywallian).

  84. Qld Police Commissioner has apologised to Jade Buddha over Police asking then to break the law.

    This incoherent report indicates police flouted the law through the unlawful exercise of naked power.

    That’s exactly what happened.
    If that happened to me, I’d be on the phone to Triple-Zero in a heartbeat, reporting the “armed incursion onto licenced premises”.
    Favourite line from Snoopy’s link:

    Queensland’s Police Commissioner has apologised after officers breached the state’s new liquor laws to allow Prince Frederik of Denmark into a Brisbane bar without having his ID scanned.
    Commissioner Ian Stewart said while it was technically wrong, it was the common sense thing to do.

    Yes, you read that correctly, the Police Commissioner said the liquor laws suck.

  85. H B Bear

    The ANU really is a dumping ground isn’t it?

  86. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The attractions of a humble cup of tea and a plate of hot stew likely put more stress on Aboriginal society than anything else.

    Working for the white man’s beef, flour, tea, tobacco and sugar gave the young men a chance to escape the totalitarian nature of tribal society with its endless taboos, savage punishments and the absolute dictatorship of the elders.

  87. notafan

    I think a few of us hang out at the same places Baldrick

  88. thefrolickingmole

    Pedro the Ignorant

    Thats no way to talk about out next Governor General…

    (You know Im right)

  89. .

    Queensland’s Police Commissioner has apologised after officers breached the state’s new liquor laws to allow Prince Frederik of Denmark into a Brisbane bar without having his ID scanned.
    Commissioner Ian Stewart said while it was technically wrong, it was the common sense thing to do.

    Let’s see massive fines and mass sackings.

  90. dopey

    Christendom was what we now call Europe. It was broken up by the Reformation. By 1650 it lay in ruins. The last aspect to crumble was Latin.
    Mark Greengrass: Christendom Destroyed (Penguin) well worth reading.

  91. Pedro the Ignorant

    Thats no way to talk about out next Governor General…

    The horror!

  92. Snoopy

    Get pinged for unlawfully entering licensed premises while armed? Just claim it was the common sense thing to do. Simples.

  93. calli

    Commissioner Ian Stewart said while it was technically wrong, it was the common sense thing to do.

    Presumably because a prince wanted to have a drink there.

    The plebs can stay outside with their noses pressed against the glass and gaze in wonder.

  94. thefrolickingmole

    Pedro the Ignorant

    I wonder what the bookies are offering for odds.
    You know tits would do it.

  95. notafan

    This is not impossible, because even in quite recent times some tribes have invaded
    lands of other tribes and Collins saw inter-tribal warfare and disharmony some 200
    years ago. He said: It was almost daily seen, that from some trifling cause or other they were
    continually living in a state of warfare
    So I repeat that Aboriginal Australia had never been united as a ‘Nation’. That concept
    was soundly put to rest early in this century. It did not mean that the continent was
    unoccupied or terra nullius (because there can be no doubt that all the hordes and all
    the tribes did indeed at one time own their land) – it merely meant that the tribes were
    not united and that they did not speak a common language.

    interesting 1992 paper on Aborigines, including some remarks about the precolonial era

  96. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Thats no way to talk about out next Governor General…

    I would have bet good money on “First President of the Australian Republic”.

  97. JC

    Whites are truly an incredible group of people. They can even turn the most dilapidated places into beautiful structures thereby bringing them back to life again.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/from-ailing-to-artisanal-the-transformation-of-a-cincinnati-neighborhood-1503403202

  98. herodotus

    It’s worth contemplating how much pain for Australia could have been avoided if the ABC and various others in the media hadn’t pushed the Greens and their ridiculous ideas so hard for so long – pretty much ever since the Franklin River campaign launched them, decades ago. Then along came Labor, and Richo talked them into harvesting green votes too.
    Admittedly it has been a world phenomenon, with the IPCC and all, but the blame for our particular predicament is local.

  99. Fisky

    Very interesting interview with the leader of the largest Muslim organisation in Indonesia. Very much along the lines of Imam Tawhidi, although not quite at the level of denouncing the Hadith by name.

    I’m sure Oldsalt/Testpattern will be furious that I linked this before he saw it!

    http://www.baytarrahmah.org/media/2017/FAZ_A-Conversation-with-Kyai-Haji-Yahya-Cholil-Staquf_08-19-17.pdf

    Many Western politicians and intellectuals say that Islamist terrorism has nothing to do with Islam.
    What is your view, as leader of the world’s largest organization of Sunni Muslims, the Nahdlatul
    Ulama of Indonesia?

    Western politicians should stop pretending that extremism and terrorism have nothing to do with
    Islam. There is a crystal clear relationship between fundamentalism, terror and the basic
    assumptions of Islamic orthodoxy. So long as we lack consensus regarding this matter, we cannot
    attain final victory over fundamentalist violence within Islam. Radical Islamic movements are
    nothing new. They’ve appeared again and again throughout our own history in Indonesia. The
    West must stop ascribing any and all discussion of these issues to “Islamophobia.” Or do people
    want to accuse me—an Islamic scholar—of being an Islamophobe, too?

  100. Roger

    Christendom was what we now call Europe. It was broken up by the Reformation.

    The Reformation wasn’t monolithic; in fact, scholars these days talk about Reformations – Lutheran, English, Swiss, Anabaptist, etc.. And the forces which led to the disintegration of Christendom were in play well before the Reformation(s), i.e. the rising spirit of nationalism which was already present in the 14th C. France, for e.g.. At least some of the Reformation movements could have been accommodated within Christendom on account of their orthodox creedal subscription and practice of infant baptism, as happened with the Lutherans in the Holy Roman Empire (the pope and emperor needed the German Lutheran princes and their troops for the battle against the Turk). But by the end of the Hundred Years War and the Treaty of Westphalia nationalism was finally dominant over political conceptions of Christendom.

  101. Mother Lode

    Triggs must be kept awake at night (hanging upside down from the roof of her cave as the guano makes its slow journey along her skin and drips from her head) wondering how she be grander in the GG’s office than even Barbie Doll Bryce.

    Lotsa flowers – that’s a given.

    All new furniture, too. And artwork.

    Robes. Better than her boss, the Queen. Daily proclamations in the city centres.

    A large room where she can sit at the end on a dais and into which errant public officials and politicians must enter, bent double, to humbly beg her pardon for whatever misdemeanours she has charged them with.

    And at night she can relax in her newly and grandly appointed bedroom with a special walled off space upon which she can create a new, vice-regal, mound of guano.

  102. DrBeauGan

    I got talking to the owner of Mama’s this morning. He tried to talk me into investing in Mama’s.

    The site alone is worth Billions. It badly needs upgrades to the infrastructure. Given that and international advertising, it could do very well, but would immediately become a target for the big chains. I’d need to control the spending and have a right to negotiate in any sale, but it has its attraction. I said I shall probably return next year and we can talk about it then.

    Labour costs are ridiculously low. I don’t know what the government regulations are. There are a lot of potential obstacles to be overcome. But it’s worth looking at.

    Anyone else interested?

  103. John Constantine

    Yarragrad sacks a shire council, for the sins of the staff.

    Allocates funds for administration, and for a community Emily’s list push to have properly diverse Stalinist councilors elected next time.

  104. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    We are governed by fuckwits.

    Australians paying the world’s highest electricity prices
    Australian households are paying the highest electricity prices in the world, a drastic reversal from the 1990s when bills were the cheapest in the in the world.

  105. rickw

    Yes, you read that correctly, the Police Commissioner said the liquor laws suck.

    Politicians and Police in Australia never seem to ask themselves “does this law suck or not?”. Notice how quickly the stupid departure cards got scrapped once some politicians had to fill one in more than twice.

    They are always shocked and surprised when on the receiving end of the shit that they put in place.

  106. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    interesting 1992 paper on Aborigines, including some remarks about the precolonial era

    Indeed, particularly the comments on any treaty. Thank you.

  107. Nick

    Council elections are coming soon. I had a look at the junk mail delivered on behalf of the local ALP candidate. Her third goal is to ‘solve climate change’ or words to that effect. Jeez I’m angry, seriously, what difference could a Council make to the climate. She probably wants to go on junkets, when all I really want is for the bins to be collected. FMD.

  108. thefrolickingmole

    I don’t know what the government regulations are.

    Here be dragons was how it used to be marked on maps, uncharted and probably fatal to the inexperienced.

    1st, can you as a foreigner actually own title in SL?
    2nd: Does the person you are investing with actually have any title over the land?
    3rd: If you invested and it went tits up, continue to live ok?

    But other than those, it might be a good thing, I cant imagine SL having bounced back too far from the civil war yet so getting in now might be ok.

  109. rickw

    We are governed by fuckwits.

    Australians paying the world’s highest electricity prices
    Australian households are paying the highest electricity prices in the world, a drastic reversal from the 1990s when bills were the cheapest in the in the world.

    I ripped in AGL yesterday, even the bloke on the receiving end of it agreed wholeheartedly that they fucking sucked. He said he though is own power bill sucked and everyone that called them said they sucked.

    I told him specifically about the logistics of power generation in the Pacific Islands, and when I told him that despite this their power prices where cheaper, all he said was “I can believe it.”

    All delivered to you by the Lab/Lib/Nat/Green cock smokers.

  110. calli

    A couple of Hornets just buzzed overhead at very, very low altitude. Rattled the windows and scared the tripe out of me.

    Magnificent rotters.

  111. Every time a Brisbane venue has to turn away a tourist due to no ID they should give them a card with the email address of Premier and Tourism Minister.

  112. Baldrick

    We are governed by fuckwits.

    Catallaxy FactCheck – True.

  113. rickw

    A couple of Hornets just buzzed overhead at very, very low altitude. Rattled the windows and scared the tripe out of me.

    Magnificent rotters.

    Did you manage to get a shot of?! 🙂

  114. incoherent rambler

    Australian households are paying the highest electricity prices in the world, a drastic reversal from the 1990s when bills were the cheapest in the in the world.

    Trumble, Dan of the Dead, Windmill Jay are all adding more the stuff that made it so expensive.
    Bend over and take some more!

  115. Robert Mc

    Publican perceives possible prosecution.
    Prevents Princely pinot participation.
    Presently pacticality prevails.
    Police protect Pingo’s privacy.

  116. Fisky

    Professor Triggs said Australia was now re-enacting a version of George Orwell’s dystopian novel 1984.

    This is the woman whose “Human Rights” Commission destroyed the careers of a number of UQ students without bothering to inform them.

  117. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Anyone else interested?

    How much are we talking about?

  118. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    She probably wants to go on junkets, when all I really want is for the bins to be collected. FMD.

    Ask her her thoughts on “Australia Day/Invasion Day.”

  119. test pattern

    ‘Swivel guns’

    Your Wiki entry is mistaken as are the idiots at the museum. The Carronade Island and Fog Bay guns are not from Sulawesi. Most Lantaka were forged in Macau by a single foundry. In islands close to us formerly ruled by Portugal they’re called Rantaka. There are some on Flores and Timor. Not fucking trepangers.

    From Cook’s journal, Savu Island NEI 1770

    ‘We saw a few swivel guns and Pateraros at the town house …The Maize and Calevances are sent in Timor in sloops..each of which is navigated by ten Indians’

    The Savunese are just one of the seafaring peoples who could have reached Carronade island and ditched their swivels to refloat at high water. Even more likely are the Sicos and Larantuquieros of Flores who had a fort on Sumba and have ballads of sea battles between two captains bearing Portuguese names for the ‘Island of Gold’ somewhere to the south.

  120. Chris

    Cactus
    #2477250, posted on August 23, 2017 at 1:54 pm
    Well C.L. I think you give a good summary there on the Christian view. Sure.

    But what should a secular society do on marriage? Shouldn’t SSM be allowed if society deems it wants it? If I am a freedom loving Libertarian shouldn’t I be in favour of it even if I am a devout Christian because I shouldn’t want my views (or anyone elses) to be pushed onto others?

    I have been a no on this issue & turning into a soft yes. I am trying to explore my views here.

    “If society deems it wants it” – relatively woolly category there. Two years ago I was prepared to vote YES, despite being a Christian, for the sake of gay people I knew. But They do not have to live by Christian values – I do. Of course that assumes that I am OK with their extinction, as the wages of sin, but that applies to all, not just gays. All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. No discrimination against gays in that.
    Voting YES for the sake of the gay people I care for would be something they wouldn’t see – a private action. But SPEAKING, to work through the issues openly, is treated as a hate crime in the media.
    I have lived long enough to see the slippery slope proven. The nasty denialists chanting SHUT UP at us think they win if someone raises slippery slope, but its just playground chanting. When we decriminalised gay sex the argument against was that they would be demanding it, that it would proceed to being compulsory and that is what grooming programs like Safe Schools are doing.
    Remember ‘marriage is just a piece of paper’? Why should we trust activists, they have been wrong so often.
    The ‘think of the children’ argument is not really good, because loads of G and L have natural children from straight marriages anyway. Makes mincemeat of the pretension in the modern ‘unchangeable nature’ political gay position I think.
    The hostility to natural parenting and straight family formation in the literature of queer theory is a very serious issue. Voting yes is collaborating with a politics of marxism, radical feminism and post modern queer radicalisation that all have spoken out to to destroy the conventional family so they take charge of indoctrinating children for their own purposes. This is not fantasy, and it is airbrushed out of reality by the love-is-love indoctrination. Love is not love. Love is a category, including selfless care, familial affection, exploitative sexualisation, [email protected], and many other things being called love to smuggle them into popular approval.
    The attacks on the Catholic Church similarly smuggle out bad acting by knowingly gay men, conspiring and supporting each other to cover up crimes. Their deliberate capture of parts of the Catholic Church for their foul intentions is being misnamed to destroy the credibility of all Christian thought and leave the public square restricted to the relativists and hedonists.

    The immediate harm done be allowing SSM is likely to be small. No-fault divorce and subsidised single motherhood have already done appalling harm to our family culture, undermining families and rewarding bad, even malevolent acting. But a bad idea that does less harm than a worse idea, does not make the bad idea any better!

    SSM is not an innocent sharing of freedom. It is an infiltration, a step in the destruction of conventional morals, and there is no good intent behind it at all; a cabal of hate-filled people have shoved their fists in the faces of we the people they despise, yelling SHUT UP! SHUT UP! SHUT UP!

  121. calli

    I whisked out the back door to wave, but they were just a memory. 😀

    No need for stealth, these things are on top of you before you hear them.

  122. I got talking to the owner of Mama’s this morning. He tried to talk me into investing in Mama’s.
    Labour costs are ridiculously low. I don’t know what the government regulations are.
    Anyone else interested?

    The main clue is in the name of the country:

    Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka

    Spot any potential problems yet?
    (More problems are to be found in the bold type above – dem gubbermint regulations contain quite some debbil-debbil business for rich whiteys from overseas.
    ‘Specially if them rich whiteys are expectin’ things like rule of law, impartially enforced contract law, due process, & other laughable stuff.

  123. test pattern

    ‘Working for the white man’s beef, flour, tea, tobacco and sugar gave the young men a chance to escape the totalitarian nature of tribal society with its endless taboos, savage punishments and the absolute dictatorship of the elders.’

    U idiot cokebottle. It did no such thing. Indigenous stockmen in the Topend, Kimberleys and Pilbara remained within their law and became elders when they passed all the stages of initiation.

  124. Bruce of Newcastle

    Soap dispensers are racist.

    A Facebook employee in Nigeria has caused debate online after he posted a video of a soap dispenser he claims is racist, after it appears to not work for people with dark skin tones.

    The clip was tweeted out by Chukwuemeka Afigbo and soon went viral after it showed the automatic soap machine dispensing as normal when a white man puts his hands under the sensor but when a man with dark skin tried it failed to work

    Facechook installed racist soap machines! Boycott them now!

  125. incoherent rambler

    It is such a romantic world inside TPs head.
    Nevertheless, I don’t plan on visiting there.

  126. herodotus

    ABC on Trump:
    Both sides of politics criticised him for blaming both sides for the violence at Charlotteville.
    That was their take away from his latest rally.

  127. Tom

    Hahaha! “CNN sucks! CNN sucks!”

    Leftards always destroy the media companies they are allowed to take over.

  128. Gab

    No need for stealth, these things are on top of you before you hear them.

    Same with fireworks, Calli.

    Light travels faster than sound. (My science background finally pays off!)

  129. Tintarella di Luna

    Bill Shorten’s got a rather severe hair cut — looks like he’s about to break into a chorus of Tomorrow Belongs to Me

  130. Test Pattern is about to post a lengthy paragraph declaring Larry Boy to be a hero of resistance.

  131. cohenite

    So it must have self destructed before whites arrived. Strange then how it thrived during centuries of contact and exchange with the trepang fleet from Sulawesi. Dickhead.

    I wonder. Gammage reckons aboriginals created a veritable garden of Eden but if so it was perhaps a philosophical one rather than in reality. Aboriginal culture was fragile and primitive or more specifically devoid of technology and therefore utterly dependent on natural process. They weren’t traders despite contact with other cultures because they had nothing to trade.

    Aboriginal culture was unique in being almost non-existent; that is the inevitable conclusion of it being so harmonious with nature. You can’t have it both ways.

  132. calli

    Light travels faster than sound.

    Mercifully they do their booming out at sea. I don’t think the windows could take it.

    I do love them though. Nothing like driving through Williamtown and they’re taking off/landing just above the car. Good stuff.

  133. H B Bear

    Cockhead sockhead alliterates.
    A change from masturbates.
    Fitbit doesn’t register.

  134. Bruce of Newcastle

    Your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberries!

    Kodiak bears found to switch to eating elderberries instead of salmon as climate changes

    (Phys.org)—A team of researchers affiliated with several institutions in the U.S. has found that warming in Alaska has sometimes caused the Kodiak bear to switch to eating elderberries during salmon spawning periods instead of eating salmon. In their paper published in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, the group describes their multi-pronged study of the impact that seasonal changes occurring on the Kodiak Archipelago are having on the bears that live there.

    The Kodiak Archipelago is a group of islands off the southern coast of Alaska. It is home to what are known as Kodiak bears—very large brown bears distantly related to polar bears. The bears have become famous due to pictures of them catching salmon in shallow rivers. The archipelago is also home to elderberries, which are also eaten by Kodiak bears. But the researchers with this new effort have found that the feeding habits of the bears are changing due to a warming climate.

    Python’s Arthur must’ve lived during the Mediaeval Warm Period. Studies also show that climate scientists become rich due to climate change.

  135. Nick

    Lol Tint. Either that or it’s dyke night at the CMFEU.

  136. calli

    I used to live under the flight path to Richmond. Mostly Hercules, but every so often a mighty Starlifter would make its ponderous approach just over the house. Magnificent at night, all lights blazing.

    People whinged, as they do. No sense of wonder.

  137. Zyconoclast

    Windsor wants a recount of the 2013 election.

  138. Leigh Lowe

    Tintarella di Luna

    #2477402, posted on August 23, 2017 at 5:11 pm

    Bill Shorten’s got a rather severe hair cut — looks like he’s about to break into a chorus of Tomorrow Belongs to Me

    He changes his look pretty frequently.
    Some say it is to prevent being picked out of a line-up.
    Not me, though.

  139. DrBeauGan

    What is it, Doc?

    Mama’s is a beach Hotel and restaurant. It has the best site on Tigri bay with fabulously views but is badly run down and not very competently run. The competition along the beach is smaller and mostly as badly organised except for a fairly good place at turtle point which is a much inferior site.

    I don’t know how much the place is worth as is, so I don’t know how much it is worth putting into it. I guess the best strategy would be to sink about a million bucks into refurbishing the place and the same into advertising it, then use income to upgrade further. The site is superb and it could be the best hotel in Sri Lanka within ten years.

    There is a lot of work involved in getting the upgrade right. The natives aren’t dumb but there’s a lot they don’t know about the world out there. And there’s a great deal I don’t know about Sri Lanka and the regulations. So I’d have to do a fair bit of work finding out if it’s feasible.

    Investors would get free accommodation! This was one of the owners suggestions.

    I shall look into it if I come back next year. I haven’t the time to do more than explore the more obvious issues now. But presenting a case to a bank would be less fun than making it to a cat consortium, and making a bank richer less satisfying than making cats richer. I am a cautious man and wouldn’t invest my money in a long shot.

  140. Cactus

    One of my favourite parts of Australia Day is seeing the FA18 Hornets use the air-space over Sydney Harbour as their personal play thing. There is something about the speed, the sound, the quick change of direction. I stop what I am doing and just and am in awe.

    Curiously I also think about that Famous Military Commander Zap Brannigan’s line when facing up to the enemy “Let’s show these freaks what a bloated, run-away military budget can do”. I think he fought at the Alamo too if I’m not mistaken.

  141. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I used to live under the flight path to Richmond. Mostly Hercules, but every so often a mighty Starlifter would make its ponderous approach just over the house. Magnificent at night, all lights blazing.

    Early 2000, somebody rang a Sydney talk back radio to complain about aircraft noise from Richmond, and how hard it was to get their newborn to sleep.

    “How long have you lived at Windsor?”

    “Moved there about eighteen months ago.”

    “Do you know how long the Royal Australian Air Force has been at Richmond?”

    “Err, well, no actually.”

    ‘ Since the early 1920’s.”

  142. H B Bear

    Bill Shorten’s got a rather severe hair cut — looks like he’s about to break into a chorus of Tomorrow Belongs to Me

    Tit’s minders must be running this through the focus groups trying to get the accused Senior Labor Figure and union stooge’s Preferred PM numbers up before the Lieborals dump Waffleworth and they have to switch to the Slovenian Hag.

  143. Spider

    The DRUM leads off with suicide amongst teens. Surprise surprise. Same sex attracted teens who’ve seen that poster in Melbourne no doubt. Keep pushing the agenda.

    I’ve never been a conspiracy theorist but I tell you what the current SSM campaign has too many coincidences to be purely by chance.

  144. Not that you’d know by reading the story from TheirABC, but Terry Martin was a Labor MP-

    Funny how your mind automatically fills in the blanks. I didn’t even read this bit, just the article excerpt and I read it as a Labor MP.

    Never in doubt.

  145. “Do you know how long the Royal Australian Air Force has been at Richmond?”

    So? NIMBYs would move next to the Parthenon and demand it be fixed or demolished.

  146. testpattern

    ‘Soap dispensers r racist’

    They can be annoying otherers. I can’t touch the missus unless I wash my hands with handwash from a hospital dispenser. Her aunt, who used to work in a land council office, was even worse. She’s infamous in darwin for zapping bush blacks with air freshener. She took a can to the cinema too just in case they sat near her.

  147. DrBeauGan

    Democratic Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka

    Spot any potential problems yet?
    (More problems are to be found in the bold type above – dem gubbermint regulations contain quite some debbil-debbil business for rich whiteys from overseas.
    ‘Specially if them rich whiteys are expectin’ things like rule of law, impartially enforced contract law, due process, & other laughable stuff.

    Better allow another million for bribes’.

    I do understand some of the problems of investing in third world countries such as Sri Lanka and South Australia. You have to not make too much money, or so much you can buy the buggers.

    My idea would be to get bought out by a big chain before attracting attention.

    I take it for granted that the government is a gang of crooks. They all.are..

  148. herodotus

    If only the Kodiak bears would switch to eating climate scientists.

  149. Empire GTHO Phase III

    Professor Triggs said Australia was now re-enacting a version of George Orwell’s dystopian novel 1984.

    There’s hope for her yet. At least Triggs has had a moment of clarity and honesty. The next step is for her to admit her culpability for the enactment of the dystopia.

    Come on Gillian. It’s never too late for personal salvation.

  150. Tintarella di Luna

    they have to switch to the Slovenian Hag.

    Well that’s if she’s not a Slovenian citizen by descent

  151. Delta A

    A couple of Hornets just buzzed overhead at very, very low altitude. Rattled the windows and scared the tripe out of me.

    We visited “Fighter World” when we were in the area two years ago. An excellent aircraft museum, staffed by volunteer, retired RAAF personnel. And while we were there, four Hornets took off . The old ex-RAAf chappie hustled us up to the viewing balcony to enjoy every moment of their dramatic departure, along with an everything-you-want-to-know description of Australia’s air fighting forces.

    If we ever return to Port Stephens, it will be mainly to enjoy, again, that extraordinary museum.

  152. H B Bear

    Professor Triggs said Australia was now re-enacting a version of George Orwell’s dystopian novel 1984.

    I love it when Leftists invoke Orwell and 1984. It’s a teachable moment.

  153. Baldrick

    Bill Shorten’s got a rather severe hair cut

    Looks like one of those Illinois Nazi cuts.

  154. miltonf

    Professor Triggs said Australia was now re-enacting a version of George Orwell’s dystopian novel 1984. I thought she would be more O’Brien than Winston.

  155. Atoms for Peace

    Wednesdays in Switzerland is when their airforce has fun.

  156. Atoms for Peace

    Any statute of limitations for accused rapists?

  157. Tintarella di Luna

    Not that you’d know by reading the story from TheirABC, but Terry Martin was a Labor MP-

    Funny how your mind automatically fills in the blanks. I didn’t even read this bit, just the article excerpt and I read it as a Labor MP.

    Never in doubt.

    Yes isn’t it interesting that of all the politicians who’ve gone to gaol for sexual offences against children are Labor politicians EVERY SINGLE ONE – I wonder why the Royal Commission hasn’t looked at this given the statistics what’s the likelihood of being sexually abused by a politician of a particular political persuasion.

  158. Mother Lode

    Professor Triggs said Australia was now re-enacting a version of George Orwell’s dystopian novel 1984.

    This is the woman who famously complained that people around the kitchen table were not being monitored.

  159. Atoms for Peace

    Let’s crowd fund Triggster to Saudi. They are in desperate need of a good raw 18C rogering.

  160. Tintarella di Luna

    Looks like one of those Illinois Nazi cuts.

    Baldrick I was going to say that but I’m glad you did.

  161. Atoms for Peace

    Not that I am want to do this, but Testes, can you please perform a colonoscopy with your pin head. No cheating with a prep before hand.

  162. Tintarella di Luna

    Come on Gillian. It’s never too late for personal salvation.

    For her I think it is, she had the power to do good but she abused it, but I guess the Lord our God is ever merciful.

  163. OldOzzie

    Defence Industry Minister Christopher Pyne unwittingly (I would assume) points the way forward for the Former Liberal Coalition


    “Tony Abbott is very good at campaigning, particularly about something which he feels strongly, he campaigned against the republic, and the line that he used is you shouldn’t trust politicians with the republic, in spite of the fact that he was a politician himself,”
    Pyne said.

    Just to put the statement in context

    Tony Abbott ‘muddying’ gay marriage debate, says Christopher Pyne

    Defence Industry Minister Christopher Pyne has become the second cabinet minister to criticise Tony Abbott for his campaign tactics in the postal survey, accusing the former prime minister of trying to “muddy the waters” and turn the debate into “something other than what it is”.

    Mr Pyne said on Adelaide radio today that Mr Abbott would try and “find a line” to “undermine the case” for same-sex marriage.

    Attorney-General George Brandis said on Sunday he would not be “tricked” by Mr Abbott into debating same-sex marriage on broader issues such as freedom of religion.

    Mr Pyne said the public would not believe the vote is about anything other than allowing gay couples to wed.

    “I’m not in favour of marriage equality in spite of being a conservative, I’m in favour of it because I’m a conservative, and I think more people should have access to the institution of marriage. I think the children in same sex households should be able to have the stability that that union brings,” Mr Pyne told 5AA radio.

    “And while Tony Abbott might well try and muddy the waters and make the vote about something other than what it is, it’s a pretty straight forward question: ‘do you or don’t you agree that same sex couples should have chance to marry?’”

    Mr Pyne added there were no other issues that should be part of the debate.

    “Tony Abbott is very good at campaigning, particularly about something which he feels strongly, he campaigned against the republic, and the line that he used is you shouldn’t trust politicians with the republic, in spite of the fact that he was a politician himself,” Pyne said.

    “So he will try and find a line to undermine the case for yes for same sex marriage. I don’t think the Australian public believe this is a vote about anything other than allowing same sex couples the same rights to marry as non-same sex couple.”

    The Poncing Prancing Poodle Pyne is getting a pasting in the comments

    – Pyne and Brandis have zero credibility. It’s disgusting they’ve joined the ranks of the Abbott haters. Hang in there, Tony. We need you and your principles in public life calling out these bed-wetters.

    – Has Parliament been a circus arena for spoiled brats for so long they have forgotten what is entailed in real debate?
    It would seem the poodle has no idea!

    – When politicians insult & decry other politicians – from their own party no less – for speaking their mind & standing by their beliefs you know who to trust. Pyne is a political opportunist who will be soon out of a job come next election – not because I want a coalition Govt out, but because the current crop of so-called conservatives is bumbling & inept. You have a back-stabbing ditherer in charge of an undisciplined, self-absorbed lot who care not a jot about their constituents, but only their jobs.

    – Bring back Tony for PM.

    – Continued bad polling. It must be time to drag out the Coalitions favorite scapegoat, Tony Abbott.

    – The mincing poodle has aired his views and we are supposed to take him seriously after his little outburst a while back. Not likely.

  164. Hydra

    My burnt corn chips are blacker than Stan Grant on Australia Day.

  165. Atoms for Peace

    Soap dispensers require a modicum of intelligence.
    Me, I’m going off the reservation and have invented one that only works on the left hand. Now, how to get the shite stains off the left hand side of the stall.

  166. Tintarella di Luna

    He changes his look pretty frequently.
    Some say it is to prevent being picked out of a line-up.
    Not me, though.

    I guess the all-over burqa look is out now that Pauline has used it already.

  167. cohenite

    Yes isn’t it interesting that of all the politicians who’ve gone to gaol for sexual offences against children are Labor politicians EVERY SINGLE ONE

    Correct.

    But we must remember they are only allegations against tits.

  168. Mark from Melbourne

    I don’t know how much the place is worth as is, so I don’t know how much it is worth putting into it. I guess the best strategy would be to sink about a million bucks into refurbishing the place and the same into advertising it, then use income to upgrade further. The site is superb and it could be the best hotel in Sri Lanka within ten years.

    Not sure whether this is a plus or a minus, but SL has a substantial sock of resorts/hotels which were built as five star just before the shooting match broke out, and which are now operating again. For sure, not five star any longer, but still pretty good. Given the lead times involved in a project of that size, it might well work, but there is more competition than you might think.

    Google Earth shows Mama’s as a pretty small plot in a strip of similar plots… I am assuming I am reading that wrong, as that would most certainly not be a goer.

    Generally – and despite the many issues – I think SL has legs, I really do.

  169. Loving the leftist cash grab by greedy socialists on what has become greedy socialist central in silicon valley tech companies.

    Just like our politically correct banks being harangued by the left, the message is clear. Again.

    The left only pretends to like you to pursue their totalitarian dreams, then cast you aside once You are of no further use.

    My sympathy for these fools and cowards is precisely nil.

  170. Tintarella di Luna

    Baldrick that is nice cat you have there 😸

  171. Top Ender

    You can get a few bumper stickers here in the Top End about military aircraft:

    Jet Noise – the Sound of Freedom

    I Love Jet Noise

    and some others. Not volunteering to send them to Cats en masse, but the spirit is willing even if the flesh is too busy.

  172. thefrolickingmole

    But we must remember they are only allegations against tits.

    Nonsense, the lefty bible condemns your heresy…

    Rape victims have a right to be believed by the police
    Joan Smith
    Bernard Hogan-Howe’s plan to drop the presumption that victims are telling the truth risks taking us back to dark days of distrust

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/11/raoe-victims-police-bernard-hogan-howe

    We should skip the trial and go straight to the castration.

  173. Tintarella di Luna

    But we must remember they are only allegations against tits.

    Oh yes I know, not enough evidence

  174. Tintarella di Luna

    We should skip the trial and go straight to the castration.

    For some I’d say that would be overreach

  175. egg_

    stan grant:

    History itself becomes a hymn to whiteness.

    This is what Captain Cook’s statue in Sydney’s Hyde Park tells us.

    The inscription that Cook “Discovered this territory 1770” maintains a damaging myth, a belief in the superiority of white Christendom that devastated indigenous peoples everywhere.

    HypersTan

  176. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    My burnt corn chips are blacker than Stan Grant on Australia Day.

    I’d still be curious to know what percentage European ancestry Stan Gran actually has – I’ve listened to a “full blood”, who had tribal scars, giving his free and uncensored opinion of those with 25% indigenous ancestry, , claiming to be “Aboriginal.” He was contemptuous, to say the least…

  177. stackja

    Another ALP apparatchik resigned in 1970s and went to MSM. Whispers of you know what.

  178. OldOzzie

    Liberal Party preselection reform push spreads to WA

    Tony Abbott’s push for Liberal Party members to be granted a vote in preselection contests has spread to Western Australia, sparking a special meeting of the party’s state executive in Perth tonight to discuss the proposed constitutional change.

    Mr Abbott last month spearheaded an overwhelming vote of NSW party members to curb the power of top officials and to hold plebiscites to choose election candidates, in a blow to the Liberal Party’s dominant moderate faction in that state.

    But in WA, the reform push is coming from moderates seeking to curb the influence of the powerful conservative faction led by Finance Minister Mathias Cormann and Liberal state MPs Peter Collier and Nick Goiran.

    The strong influence of the three powerbrokers over preselections has long generated unrest in WA.

    Earlier this year, Liberal leader Mike Nahan said he “very strongly” supported giving party members a direct say in choosing candidates, rather than the current method of decisions by a committee made up of delegates appointed by branches.

    A motion to be debated at the WA Liberal Party state conference on September 2 calls for the constitution to be amended give all members the right to vote in a plebiscite to select candidates and senior office bearers.

    Another motion proposes retaining the existing model but increasing the number of delegates entitled to take part.

    It is understood the plebiscite motion was put forward by the party’s moderate faction, which is led in WA by federal deputy leader Julie Bishop.

    WA Liberal Party president Norman Moore has called a special meeting of state executive tonight to discuss the proposed changes.

    The move comes amid an internal war in NSW over Mr Abbott’s “Warringah motion, with opponents urging State Council delegates not to pass it when they meet in October.

    Mr Abbott has warned that if State Council “plays silly buggers” they will not only be defying him, but defying his rival and ­successor as Prime Minister, Malcolm Turnbull, who gave in-principle support to the motion.

  179. But we must remember they are only allegations against tits.

    Cohenite, do you dare to guess how more or less likely Bull Shitten is a rapist than all conservatives are nazis or all white people are wacist?

    Gander fucks goose.

  180. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Jet Noise – the Sound of Freedom

    “The B 52 – the finest instrument ever devised for converting av gas to excess decibels.”

  181. Top Ender

    From the article about the Triggster in the Oz:

    “No other country in the world mandates the detention, in practical terms, indefinitely for many, of asylum-seekers and refugees including children,” she said.

    Try that one on in Japan, Singapore, China, Taiwan – and quite a few others – and see how far you get!

  182. Tintarella di Luna

    My burnt corn chips are blacker than Stan Grant on Australia Day.

    Is it just me, or has sTAN Grant been on a melanin-enhancement program in order to go with his editor of indigenous affairs gig at the ABFNC

  183. Delta A

    Google Earth shows Mama’s as a pretty small plot

    Might be showing Doc BeauGies, five star, in a year or so.

  184. Robber Baron

    Channel nein news in Melbourne claims that the burqa is a “religious garment”…so much for journalism.

    They also managed to find 5 people on-the-street willing to blame Pauline Hanson for a criminal wearing a burqa to commit a robbery.

    How Peter Costello presides over this propaganda driven company is beyond my comprehension.

  185. cohenite

    The Beer Whisperer

    #2477476, posted on August 23, 2017 at 6:25 pm

    But we must remember they are only allegations against tits.

    Cohenite, do you dare to guess how more or less likely Bull Shitten is a rapist than all conservatives are nazis or all white people are wacist?

    Gander fucks goose.

    I think the comparison of the allegation against tits with what happened to Peter Blackmore is instructive.

  186. egg_

    they have to switch to the Slovenian Hag.

    She’d have a quicker nosedive than Gillard IMO; only any good for reciting mantras, from all of her appearances on Q&A.

  187. johanna

    cohenite
    #2477406, posted on August 23, 2017 at 5:15 pm

    So it must have self destructed before whites arrived. Strange then how it thrived during centuries of contact and exchange with the trepang fleet from Sulawesi. Dickhead.

    I wonder. Gammage reckons aboriginals created a veritable garden of Eden but if so it was perhaps a philosophical one rather than in reality. Aboriginal culture was fragile and primitive or more specifically devoid of technology and therefore utterly dependent on natural process. They weren’t traders despite contact with other cultures because they had nothing to trade.

    That’s not quite true. Aboriginal artefacts from central Australia found their way as far as PNG. There was trade in things like ochres, fibres (used for string and rope), decorative feathers such as cassowary, and even skulls. I am speaking now about trade between FNQ Aborigines and Torres Strait Islanders, who in turn traded with PNG.

    That said, it was small scale and had no appreciable effect on Aboriginal culture. As I have remarked here before, interaction with more advanced cultures via trade seems have had no noticeable impact on Aboriginal culture, even at the locations where the trading was carried out. Unlike the people they were dealing with, they never built houses, grew gardens or kept animals for food. And they never went seafaring, or showed any interest in doing so.

    It was a remarkably insular culture, frozen in a distant time, and was always going to be over-run sooner or later.

  188. OldOzzie

    Victoria to use renewables to power almost half its energy by 2025

    Victoria will look to renewable energy to power almost half of the state’s energy requirements by 2025 under an ambitious new energy plan imposing strict renewable energy targets and a commitment to power the state’s tram network entirely from solar power.

    The Andrews government this morning unveiled a new renewable energy target with a commitment to power up to 25 per cent of the state from renewables by 2020 and 40 per cent by 2025.

    The government has backed the construction of two large scale solar farms in regional Victoria which will provide another 140MW to the state’s supply, and has set up a reverse energy auction system to bring forward an additional 650MW to the state’s supply.

    Victorian households will allegedly each save around $30 annually on power bills under the new plan, while medium sized businesses have been projected to save up to $2400 a year under the legislation which will be introduced to parliament today.

    The plan would deliver an increase to the state’s energy supply because it gives investors the certainty they need commit to large-scale renewable energy projects, according to Energy and Climate Change Minister Lily D’Ambrosio.

    “The renewable energy sector will now have the confidence to invest in renewable energy projects and the jobs that are crucial to Victoria’s future,” she said.

    “Government investment will be capped to ensure the best value for money for Victorian taxpayers.”

    The renewable energy target sees Victoria join South Australia, the ACT and Queensland which have also attempted to boost investment in renewable power sources and to lessen the state’s reliance on fossil fuels through strict renewable energy plans with ambitious deadlines.

    The state is currently facing soaring household power prices and soaring gas and energy prices for businesses as it grapples with the closure of the Hazelwood coal-fired power station, which previously generated around 22 per cent of the state’s energy supply.

    At the same time, the Andrews government continues to call for caps on gas exports and is backing the construction of an LNG import terminal near Melbourne, as it holds firm on a moratorium on coal-seam gas exploration in the southern part of the state.

    Premier Daniel Andrews said the plan would be a boon for regional jobseekers, with the two solar farms in Numurkah near Echuca, and Bannerton Solar Park near Robinvale likely to generate around 325 new jobs.

    “More renewable energy means more jobs for Victorians – that’s why we’re setting these ambitious targets and promoting investment in this growing sector,” Mr Andrews said.

    “Renewable energy creates jobs, drives growth, and protects our environment – and most importantly, helps drive down power prices for Victorian households and businesses.”

    The cumulative effect of the renewable energy target is could cut Victorian greenhouse gas emissions by up to 16 per cent by 2034-2035, in what is the first time a renewable energy target has been enshrined in legislation in the country.

    Central to the plan is a reverse auction system under which the government will hold an auction for up to 650MW of renewable energy capacity, with the resulting projects projected to bring forward $1.3 billion in investment and to create 90 ongoing jobs.

    This amount of electricity is enought to 389,000 households – or enough energy to power Geelong, Ballarat, Bendigo and the Latrobe Valley combined.

    350 Comments so far and not very nice to Dumb Dan

    – “This amount of electricity is enough to [power] 389,000 households – or enough energy to power Geelong, Ballarat, Bendigo and the Latrobe Valley combined [during daylight hours provided the sky is perfectly clear and no stray birds/fruitbats/etc short any wires out or something].

    There, fixed it for you

    – Wasn’t it Einstein that defined idiocy as doing the same thing over and over again ! Victoria following Sa and ACT !!

    – You should combine SA and VIC and make Andrews your new Dear Leader.

    It would go well with your anti men coffee shops, out of control ethnic gangs, soft criminal sentencing, refugee bollards, union thugs, green-controlled councils cancelling Australian Day celebrations etc etc.

    Victoria and South Australia are the Germany and Sweden of Australia.

  189. John64

    Is it just me, or has sTAN Grant been on a melanin-enhancement program in order to go with his editor of indigenous affairs gig at the ABFNC

    50 Shades of Grant

  190. stackja

    Stan Grant Senior looks light too.

  191. jupes

    Channel nein news in Melbourne claims that the burqa is a “religious garment”…so much for journalism.

    It is indeed a “religious garment” in so far as millions of Muslims believe it to be and wear it as part of their religion.

    The religion demands modesty and subjugation of women and the burqa and niqab deliver in spades.

  192. cohenite

    OldOzzie

    #2477488, posted on August 23, 2017 at 6:35 pm

    Victoria to use renewables to power almost half its energy by 2025

    Victoria will look to renewable energy to power almost half of the state’s energy requirements by 2025 under an ambitious new energy plan imposing strict renewable energy targets and a commitment to power the state’s tram network entirely from solar power.

    This is genuinely insane, it is madness. Renewables do not work. Darkness is literally overtaking this country. Even talking about renewables in some comparative context as smart guys like Alan Moran do lends credence to nothing more than bullshit.

  193. OneWorldGovernment

    Didn’t Captain Cook get speared to death by some indigenous, somewhere?

  194. calli

    Lost his White Male Privilege.

    Over a plate of sandwiches as I recall.

  195. Muddy

    A spot of light dinner reading, anyone?

    The Once and Future Liberal: After Identity Politics by Mark Lilla.

    From one of the country’s most admired political thinkers, an urgent wake-up call to American liberals to turn from the divisive politics of identity and develop a vision of our future that can persuade all citizens that they share a common destiny. In The Once and Future Liberal, Mark Lilla offers an impassioned, tough-minded, and stinging look at the failure of American liberalism over the past two generations. Although there have been Democrats in the White House, and some notable policy achievements, for nearly 40 years the vision that Ronald Reagan offered–small government, lower taxes, and self-reliant individualism–has remained the country’s dominant political ideology. And the Democratic Party has offered no convincing competing vision in response. Instead, as Lilla argues, American liberalism fell under the spell of identity politics, with disastrous consequences. Driven originally by a sincere desire to protect the most vulnerable Americans, the left has now unwittingly balkanized the electorate, encouraged self-absorption rather than solidarity, and invested its energies in social movements rather than in party politics. With dire consequences. Lilla goes on to show how the left’s identity-focused individualism insidiously conspired with the amoral economic individualism of the Reaganite right to shape an electorate with little sense of a shared future and near-contempt for the idea of the common good. In the contest for the American imagination, liberals have abdicated. Now they have an opportunity to reset. The left is motivated, and the Republican Party, led by an unpredictable demagogue, is in ideological disarray. To seize this opportunity, Lilla insists, liberals must concentrate their efforts on recapturing our institutions by winning elections. The time for hectoring is over. It is time to reach out and start persuading people from every walk of life and in every region of the country that liberals will stand up for them. We must appeal to – but also help to rebuild – a sense of common feeling among Americans, and a sense of duty to each other. A fiercely-argued, no-nonsense book, enlivened by Lilla’s acerbic wit and erudition, The Once and Future Liberal is essential reading for our momentous times.

    Form an orderly queue now.

  196. Steve trickler.

    Never heard this bloke before. I doubt he will get an invite to the Melbourne Comedy Festival!

    LOL.

    Aussie Comedian Rekts SJW Indian Woman


    Good to laugh after reading Victoria’s power plans for 2025 posted above.

    It’s depressing.

  197. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Didn’t Captain Cook get speared to death by some indigenous, somewhere?

    The Sandwich Isles, later known as Hawaii, looking for the “North – West Passage. ” Cook was a sick man by then, who should never have been sent on that third voyage.

  198. egg_

    Bill Shorten’s got a rather severe hair cut — looks like he’s about to break into a chorus of Tomorrow Belongs to Me

    He’s chasing the Extra Terrestrial vote.

  199. Muddy

    Ooooh, formatting fail. Sorry!

  200. OneWorldGovernment

    calli
    #2477500, posted on August 23, 2017 at 6:50 pm

    Lost his White Male Privilege.

    Over a plate of sandwiches as I recall.

    LOL

  201. DrBeauGan

    Mama’s has bigger frontage Than the biggest of the competition by a factor of at least two. I’d have to get the details of the property of course. .it’s badly run down, some purely cosmetic work would be a good investment. Mind you, the best of most of the others are not a whole lot better. The one really modern place looks good, but that’s the one at turtle point which has pool beach frontage..

    Thanks for the tax PDF, Zippy. Some bits are dispiriting, others relatively cheering. I would think informal relations with natives and avoiding the government would be the way to go.

    There are various ways of enforcing contracts. One uses lawyers. I prefer the promise of a blunt skinning knife myself. Cheaper and more effective. If JC has any contacts with cosa nostra he could be useful..

    Trust is a lovely thing. I admire it from a distance. I prefer predicting people’s to trusting them, it works much better for me. If I make an agreement with the owner to give him money, he will be in no doubt that cheating me would leave him with a mad mathematician on his hands who would have no scruples whatever. We’re very practical people. Of course, if he looks after me, I’d look after him. Cheating him would be stupid, though not as stupid as him cheating me.

  202. John Constantine

    Their yarragrad is the Rhodesia of the Pacific.

    Don’t worry, the left will mugabeize the place and deindustrialise the colonial racists through de electrification.

    Once bankrupt and balkanized, yarragrad will go full Zimbabwe.

    Can Australia survive ten million mendicant council bin inspectors living off GST from the feds and borrowings from foreign banks all perched on the Great southern ocean?.

  203. JC

    Lol. Dunno if it’s fake news but it sure is funny.

    CNN’s Anderson Cooper’s Family Were Slave Owners – Owned Michelle Obama’s Relatives!
    Read more at http://dcwhispers.com/cnns-anderson-coopers-family-slave-owners-owned-michelle-obamas-relatives/#buuw0YfLzIs6AIEI.99

  204. Roger

    Qld an international laughing stock over its absurd liquor venue ID laws.

    Good.

  205. Atoms for Peace

    When this joint is up for a fire sale, I wonder who’ll be buying up the pieces at cents in the peso. I really don’t want to learn Mandarin.

  206. Rabz

    has sTAN Grant been on a melanin-enhancement program

    I’m so sick of Stan Dolezal’s unrelenting negroplasty.

  207. Natural Instinct

    An ABC type interviews Julie Andrews about her new role directing the soon to open,
    new version of “My Fair Lady”.

    “But weren’t you tempted to play around with the gender roles a little bit and just to, sort of, temper the sexism of the time”

    Quiz time – guess who.

  208. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    leftism is een psychische aandoening

  209. Atoms for Peace

    Queensland was farked once the Tarago crew were left loose. Just reading some Cane Toad Times..Sob. I miss Joh

  210. Qld an international laughing stock over its absurd liquor venue ID laws.
    Good.

    The “Qld’s liquor laws are stupid” camp’s most enthusiastic member is now the Commission of Police.

    Support don’t get much more credible than that.

  211. Cary

    It was a remarkably insular culture, frozen in a distant time, and was always going to be over-run sooner or later.

    Probably the stupidest comment ever, at least of the week.

  212. herodotus

    Katter doing another free advert for himself and nothing much else – on Bolt.

  213. herodotus

    But he does go on to say some good things on Marriage.

  214. Roger

    Support don’t get much more credible than that.

    No, it doesn’t.

    And he appealed to common sense.

    In vain, as the ALP lacks it.

  215. herodotus

    At the end of the day Bolt is just another media person who can’t say they don’t approve of gays appropriating the word marriage. Are there any who have stuck their neck out and said NO?

  216. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Mathias Cormann describes Labor’s policies as akin to communist East Germany

    The Australian
    7:00PM August 23, 2017
    Simon Benson
    National Political Editor
    Sydney
    @simonbenson

    Finance Minister Mathias Cormann has laid down the economic gauntlet to Bill Shorten describing Labor’s policies as akin to communist East Germany, in a speech to the Sydney Institute tonight designed to set the philosophical and political battleground for the next election.

    In one of the most strident attacks on the Opposition leader by a Turnbull Cabinet Minister since the 2016 election, Senator Cormann accused Mr Shorten of being an economic charlatan attempting to take Labor back to the era of socialism by committing more than $150 billion worth of new taxes.

    In an attempt to take the Labor leader head-on over the Opposition’s “tax and spend” policy settings, Senator Cormann accused the Opposition leader of a shameless descent into the politics of envy used by past socialist leaders.

    “As he looks ahead to the next election, he has made the deliberate and cynical political judgment that enough Australians have forgotten the historical failure of socialism,” Senator Cormann said.

    “The Berlin Wall came down 28 years ago, which means roughly 18 per cent of Australians enrolled to vote were born after the fall of the Berlin Wall and the failure of a system of Government that destroyed the economies of Eastern Europe.

    “Bill Shorten now believes the politics of envy will work for him politically if not economically.

    “That people will believe him when he pretends that the path to a better life for them is to tax their neighbours, their friends and their family members harder; to demonise aspiration and go after hard working Australians and successful businesses.

    “His rhetoric is the divisive language of haves and have nots. It is socialist revisionism at its worst.”

    Senator Cormann’s speech is expected to be viewed as an attempt to seize back the economic agenda as the Government flounders in a political quagmire over the citizenship controversy.

    Breaking news from the Oz. What’s happening, has somebody in the Turnbull circus finally discovered their testicles?

  217. Snoopy

    Can someone please destroy scumbag lawyers Maurice Blackburn?
    NADT

  218. cohenite

    Probably the stupidest comment ever, at least of the week.

    No, every thing you say is infinitely more stupid. Keep it up.

  219. stackja

    Bolt is a romantic. Doesn’t understand marriage question.

  220. Roger

    What’s happening, has somebody in the Turnbull circus finally discovered their testicles?

    He’s seen the polls and realised there’s nothing to lose.

  221. cohenite

    Great analysis of the lie of renewables and the shibboleths surrounding them; for instance, China is using less coal:

    Coal-powered energy consumption accounted for 62 per cent of China’s TEC. The increases in gas, hydro, and nuclear power may explain the 2.87 per cent decline in coal-powered energy consumption between 2015 and 2016. However, China’s adoption of advanced ultra-supercritical coal-fired power plants, apparently planning to build one coal-fired power plant each week until 2020, may explain the lower consumption of coal as the new plants require up to 30 per cent less coal to achieve the same energy output as the older plants being retired.

    https://www.facebook.com/dallas.beaufort/posts/10155021639069370

  222. OneWorldGovernment

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2477503, posted on August 23, 2017 at 6:52 pm

    Didn’t Captain Cook get speared to death by some indigenous, somewhere?

    The Sandwich Isles, later known as Hawaii, looking for the “North – West Passage. ” Cook was a sick man by then, who should never have been sent on that third voyage.

    ZK2A

    There is a park in Melbourne that purports to have Captain James Cook’s cottage from wherever in England.

    All I can say is that ‘they’ were shortares back then.

    One of the finest voyagers in history, if not the finest.

  223. Roger

    One of the finest voyagers in history, if not the finest.

    The finest; he was the inspiration for Captain Kirk from Star Trek.

    Your piece of pop culture trivia for the day.

  224. zyconoclast

    The DRUM leads off with suicide amongst teens. Surprise surprise. Same sex attracted teens who’ve seen that poster in Melbourne no doubt. Keep pushing the agenda.

    What’s with the euphemism Same sex attracted teens?
    We already have perfectly good, well understood nick names like homo and lezzo.

  225. herodotus

    Teens (whatever their attractions) these days have a lot less to be feeling suicidal about, unless they are politically up to speed and realise that politics is essentially stuffed.
    As far as their sex lives are concerned, they can have it all compared to what we went through in the bad old days.

  226. Harlequin Decline

    Mother Lode
    #2477371, posted on August 23, 2017 at 4:28 pm
    Triggs must be kept awake at night (hanging upside down from the roof of her cave as the guano makes its slow journey along her skin and drips from her head) wondering how she be grander in the GG’s office than even Barbie Doll Bryce.

    Obviously hasn’t learnt the correct technique.

  227. Makka

    So it must have self destructed before whites arrived. Strange then how it thrived during centuries of contact and exchange with the trepang fleet from Sulawesi.

    Thrived?Living in caves or humpies around the fire. Hadn’t even learned to read or write, boil water or make a wheel. Killing each other off, stealing women and kids from other tribes. Yeah, thriving like all get out they were. Fk off dickhead.

  228. herodotus

    OK, I’ll type all that again.

    Teens these days, regardless of their “attractions”, have a lot less to feel suicidal about than we did in the bad old days, unless they are sufficiently informed on politics to realise that it and their futures are essentially stuffed.
    Nothing to do with their sex lives, which are pretty much a smorgasbord by comparison.

  229. herodotus

    Tried twice to post a comment, both times disappeared without trace.
    Goodnight, other things to do.

  230. The Deplorable Barking Toad

    Chortle…….. [email protected]

  231. johanna

    #2477516, posted on August 23, 2017 at 7:11 pm

    Qld an international laughing stock over its absurd liquor venue ID laws.

    They also decided this week to keep retail opening laws firmly in the past in regional areas, frozen for the next five years. No Sunday trading for supermarkets, closing at 6pm on other days and all the rest of the usual protectionist garbage which puts up prices and reduces amenity for consumers. As has been pointed out by others in Queensland, youth unemployment in regional Queensland is a sigificant problem, but in the interests of keeping expensive Mom and Pop businesses open for limited hours, there will be no jobs for cashiers, shelf-stackers etc available in modern supermarkets. Nobody claims that these are careers, but they are jobs which teach work habits and bla bla bla.

    Not only that, the tourist in regional Queensland who runs out of milk or bread or whatever out of hours or on Sunday will be firmly reminded of what a primitive backwater it is. These places claim to be gagging for tourism, but only on their terms. Well, the tourism market is mainly people who are unimpressed by the notion that even if there was someone in town who was prepared to open their shop, the law forbids it.

    All the hype about Queensland being modern is just that. It’s a hick, statist, state.

  232. Baldrick

    Just horrible people.

    Is that m0nster with the purple hair on the left?

  233. Atoms for Peace

    Maybe our indigenous brethren did have a thriving culture 39000years ago before they discovered renewable energy.

  234. Tel

    Probably the stupidest comment ever, at least of the week.

    It’s self evident that the majority of people reject technology wherever possible… much preferring to dig out grubs with a stick. Anyone offered a free Obama phone will promptly turn it aside.

    Just go out on the street and look around… obviously animal skins are better, because that’s what everyone is wearing. Hey, if they wanted to dress up in a shirt, jacket and tie, then they would do so. Duh!!!

  235. Empire GTHO Phase III

    Just got robocalled by Vic Trades Hall harassing me to vote YES.

    Most of the bruvvers I know aren’t big on the rainbow brigade.

  236. No Sunday trading for supermarkets, closing at 6pm on other days and all the rest of the usual protectionist garbage which puts up prices and reduces amenity for consumers. …, there will be no jobs for cashiers, shelf-stackers etc available in modern supermarkets. Nobody claims that these are careers, but they are jobs which teach work habits and bla bla bla.

    Please name the towns in which this closure applies.
    Restrict yourself to towns large enough to (a) provide a workforce of “shelf-stackers” and (b) large enough to support a business that would need “shelf-stackers”.

  237. Makka

    What’s with Serena at the pub? Who tf is Serena? What’s going on Sal?

  238. Not only that, the tourist in regional Queensland who runs out of milk or bread or whatever out of hours or on Sunday will be firmly reminded of what a primitive backwater it is.

    Is this comment meant to be a parody?
    (It’s so good it almost seems serious).

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