Strange days indeed

These are strange times for liberal Jews who, like me, were born in America only because their grandparents ran there to escape fascism. 

What an astonishing sentence.

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51 Responses to Strange days indeed

  1. Roger

    Astonishing? She thinks Trump is a fascist. That’s hardly astonishing given that she’s a self-confessed liberal.

    Her comparison of her supposed plight with that of her ancestors is just inept.

  2. Muddy

    First of all, that’s the first time I have ever read The Guardian, and I resent the lack of an appropriate trigger warning. Secondly, I got as far as her quote from Jon Stewart and couldn’t limp any further. Nuff sed.

  3. Andrew

    I assume that dickhead had nothing to say (at least nothing that the Grauniad would be prepared to publish) when the Kenyan threw Israel under the bus? It was only 6 months ago.

  4. Robbo

    Written for and printed by The Guardian. Only nitwits would pay any attention.

  5. PK

    some “very fine people” marching with neo-Nazis earlier this month

    Yes, a few screwballs turned up but weren’t most there to decry the desecration of historical monuments?

  6. It is the left that is anti-semitic and pro-muslin. Trump’s own family is part
    Jewish. The Gramsci-ites know, a la Goebbels, that the propaganda lie, once
    out there gets disseminated by a fellow-traveller medja, and absorbed by
    those who fail to reason why and by youth made compliant via leftist k-12
    transformational ”education.’

    http://invisibleserfscollar.com/battle-for-the-mind-and-who-we-ought-to-be-portrait-of-a-graduate-in-2030-thanks-to-charlottesville/

  7. Pedro the Ignorant

    It is the Grauniad.
    Say no more.

  8. rebel with cause

    Tunisia, Iran, Egypt, Afghanistan, Bahrain, Syria, Yemen… just a few of the places where J__s are no longer being born. Don’t think it has anything to do with Nazis though.

  9. Neville

    Yes, Sinclair. What an astonishing sentence, although I’m not quite sure which way you’re directing the emphasis; whether it’s ‘what an astonishing article by the grauniad’, or, ‘what an astonishing load of self-serving and SJW-sounding claptrap by the author’.

  10. It might be astonishing if I had any idea of what she means.

  11. squawkbox

    The typical modern guardianista liberal with an empty head and an empty life. If Trump is Hitler, then she can pretend to be Ann Frank – it gives her life a tiny bit of meaning.

  12. rickw

    Surprisingly, many Jews have a poor grasp of history and an even poorer grasp of reality.

    They consistently line up behind those who threaten Israels existence and who would be dispose of them in a heartbeat.

    Antifa should be all to familiar to them and completely alarming.

  13. Herodotus

    Trump supports Israel and went to the wailing wall in a very respectful manner. Obama undermined Israel and sympathises with its enemies. He would never have gone there in the same fashion Trump did.
    These leftist commentators like her are always off the mark, but this statement is deranged.

  14. Herodotus

    Where was she when Joe Arpaio was being railroaded, along with many other instances of the abuse of power that happened under Obama?

  15. Gbees

    Was Joe Arpaio rail roaded because he exposed with forensic evidence Obama’s fake birth certificate?

  16. Gbees

    Birth certificate evidence press conference – https://youtu.be/jk3KRxTfkLM

  17. J.H.

    Liberal???… She’s not a liberal, she’s a Socialist and Fascistic one at that….. But like most fascists she excuses her violence of thought and deed by blaming the victims of her political passions. She exaggerates and lies….. and she does it deliberately for political effect.

  18. John Constantine

    Literally a Confederate Nazi Russian Denier Homophobe Mysogynist Racist Hitler Islamophobe Statue, the removal of Trump must happen as the next step to the ethnic cleansing of the middle east to create a safe space for wahhabism.

  19. John L

    She is only useful for The Guardian, The Guardian is only useful for wrapping the garbage.
    Another useful idiot.

  20. Crossie

    It might be astonishing if I had any idea of what she means.

    I’ll give it a shot, friend of Israel = nazi, Muslims who want to wipe Israel and every Jew off the face of the Earth = not nazi.

    And just like in 1930s the beautiful people side with the nazis. It’s instinctive to them as they find ugly art beautiful, ugly literature worthy and ugly movies as entertainment.

  21. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    What part of Islamo-Fascist does she not understand? What part of “some good people” does she not understand? What part of “Antifa” brutal street fascism does she not understand? This blinkered woman does not understand very much.

  22. Alan moran

    Desecrates her uncle’s grave with cheap anti Trump addendum to a story about a man of greatness. But that is so typical of the “cultural left”

  23. Nerblnob

    The actual original Nazis started by attacking police stations. More in common with BLM than any other modern group.

  24. Herodotus

    That’s a long presentation by Joe’s people and himself. It’s dynamite. Perhaps Grigs can point to our media coverage of it.
    But it explains a lot about what’s happened to Joe.

  25. twostix

    We’re going to all be asked to memory hole the BDS thing now aren’t we?

    They’re winding down their operations faster than Stalin could say “doctors plot!”.

  26. Haidee

    This author recently complained bitterly of the media’s weakness for photogenic women
    (Trump family), as if this were news; and scorned a picture of his little grandson gazing at a butterfly.

  27. twostix

    What I think she’s saying is that israeli jews are the real Nazis.

  28. srr

    Muddy
    #2479940, posted on August 26, 2017 at 7:44 pm

    First of all, that’s the first time I have ever read The Guardian, and I resent the lack of an appropriate trigger warning. Secondly, I got as far as her quote from Jon Stewart and couldn’t limp any further. Nuff sed.

    Not quite enough.

    The devout Anti-Semite, ‘Bird’, remains a cared about individual here, who somehow always manages to fly in and shit all over everything J ewish and Israel.

    Linking to important news for and about J ews (good news and more importantly, warnings for J ews), is still so heavily restricted than most have learned not to bother.

    The Cat’s beloved pet (and preacher of all things Communist), m0nty, gets away with calling me an Anti-Semite, despite because of my constantly drawing attention to our lack of freedom to speak For J ews.

    Seeing patterns where they don’t exist, can be a sign of mental illness.
    Refusing to acknowledge patterns where they are bleeding obvious, can be a sign of knowing, willing, evil.

  29. Fulcrum

    I regard the Guardian as great place to start for a myopic view of the world but I prefer a more expansive view.

    Its not unusual to adjust conditions of entry to the USA or any other country.

    Even Obama did it but that’s not exactly apparent from the article

  30. srr

    Gbees
    #2480100, posted on August 27, 2017 at 6:27 am

    Was Joe Arpaio rail roaded because he exposed with forensic evidence Obama’s fake birth certificate?

    It was masterful, clean, T crossing and I dotting work, wasn’t it.

    I glad to see someone else didn’t memory hole it.

    Considering it was yet another huge lot of serious news that got soundly buried under ladies crying about their insulted honor while tossing mouldy diloes around, and other such important topics. 🙄

  31. srr

    Donald Trump Aipac [American Israel Public Affairs Committee] Full Speech

    Mar 21, 2016
    Donald Trump Aipac Full Speech. In a highly awaited speech at the AIPAC Policy Conference on Monday evening, Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump reiterated his support for Israel while promising to continue to do so if elected President.

    Trump noted that he is a lifelong supporter of the State of Israel and noted that, despite being a newcomer to politics, “I’m not new to supporting the Jewish state.” He touted his pro-Israel credentials and noted how he led the Salute Israel parade in 2014. “It was a dangerous time for Israel and frankly for many supporting Israel… I took the risk and I’m glad I did,” said Trump. “But I didn’t come to you to pander about Israel – that’s what a politician does: all talk and no action. “I came to tell you where I stand on the future of America’s relationship with our strategic ally and cultural brother, the state of Israel.”

    Trump declared that his number one number priority is to dismantle the disastrous deal with Iran. “This deal is catastrophic, for America, for Israel and for the whole Middle East.” Good evening. I speak to you today as a lifelong supporter and true friend of Israel. I am a newcomer to politics but not to backing the Jewish state.

    In late 2001, weeks after the attacks on New York City and Washington – attacks perpetrated by Islamic fundamentalists, Mayor Giuliani visited Israel to show solidarity with terror victims. I sent him in my plane because I backed the mission 100%.

    In Spring 2004, at the height of violence in the Gaza Strip, I was the Grand Marshal of the 40th Salute to Israel Parade, the largest single gathering in support of the Jewish state. It was a very dangerous time for Israel and frankly for anyone supporting Israel – many people turned down this honor –I did not, I took the risk.

    I didn’t come here tonight to pander to you about Israel. That’s what politicians do: all talk, no action. I came here to speak to you about where I stand on the future of American relations with our strategic ally, our unbreakable friendship, and our cultural brother, the only democracy in the Middle East, the State of Israel.

    My number one priority is to dismantle the disastrous deal with Iran. I have been in business a long time. I know deal-making and let me tell you, this deal is catastrophic – for America, for Israel, and for the whole Middle East. The problem here is fundamental. We have rewarded the world’s leading state sponsor of terror with $150 billion and we received absolutely nothing in return.

    I’ve studied this issue in greater detail than almost anybody. The biggest concern with the deal is not necessarily that Iran is going to violate it, although it already has, the bigger problem is that they can keep the terms and still get to the bomb by simply running out the clock, and, of course, they keep the billions.

    The deal doesn’t even require Iran to dismantle its military nuclear capability! Yes, it places limits on its military nuclear program for only a certain number of years. But when those restrictions expire, Iran will have an industrial-size military nuclear capability ready to go, and with zero provision for delay no matter how bad Iran’s behavior is.

    When I am president, I will adopt a strategy that focuses on three things when it comes to Iran. First, we will stand up to Iran’s aggressive push to destabilize and dominate the region. Iran is a very big problem and will continue to be, but if I’m elected President, I know how to deal with trouble.

    Iran is a problem in Iraq, a problem in Syria, a problem in Lebanon, a problem in Yemen, and will be a very major problem for Saudi Arabia. Literally every day, Iran provides more and better weapons to their puppet states.
    Hezbollah in Lebanon has received sophisticated anti-ship weapons, anti-aircraft weapons, and GPS systems on rockets. Now they’re in Syria trying to establish another front against Israel from the Syrian side of the Golan Heights.
    In Gaza, Iran is supporting Hamas and Islamic Jihad – and in the West Bank they are openly offering Palestinians $7,000 per terror attack and $30,000 for every Palestinian terrorist’s home that’s been destroyed.

    Iran is financing military forces throughout the Middle East and it is absolutely indefensible that we handed them over $150 billion to facilitate even more acts of terror.

  32. Andrew

    Where was she when Joe Arpaio was being railroaded

    I suspect Joe did in fact commit the crimes he was convicted of. I also suspect the Kenyan did participate in the forgery Joe accused him of.

  33. srr

    Your comment is awaiting moderation.

    BECAUSE, even on this thread of liars trashing Trump with the lie that he hates J ews (like his daughter, grandchildren et al), I can’t post this refutation of those lies without breaking the word, “J ew” 😡

    Donald Trump Aipac [American Israel Public Affairs Committee] Full Speech

    Mar 21, 2016
    [and now I’ve removed all the text that was in the description box, because I suppose even with the word “J ew” broken up, all those other words describing the enemies of J ews, and how they work against them, was too much of a smack down for the guardian tripe being peddled here]

  34. Peter

    The problem with a lot of leftist Jews (and I have some in my family) is that they are leftists first and Jews second – well, quite often Jews in name only. They embrace every liberal cause that comes along, they work against the interests of Israel and their people, they work in favour of violent and antisemitic Palestinian causes, they deny the reality of Islamic violence and Jew hatred and they hate people like Trump simply because he is not one of them (that is, they don’t hate him because he is not a Jew – rather they hate him because he is not a liberal). In fact to them, anyone not to the left of Marx is a Nazi so I would not necessarily place too much faith in their judgment of who is and who is not a Nazi (leftists in general are seldom interested in evidence or facts where these conflict with their narrative). Of course some of the people at Charlottesville were neo-Nazis who do in fact hate Jews, but many were just conservatives. And Trump was right – much of the rise of the extreme right wing is a backlash brought about by the violence and intolerance of the extreme Left which is being supported and protected by many who should know better – including many so called Jews (who incidentally by their own actions are working against the Jewish people – Israel in particular). In this respect, Trump is more of a Jew than many of the lefty, so called “Jews”are).
    Denis Prager (himself a practicing conservative Jew) hits the nail on the head when he points out the danger this creates not just for Jews but for western civilization as a whole. And in point of fact I see as much if not more anti Jewish behaviour on the Left than the anti Jewish behaviour on the right which is being perpetrated by a vanishingly small number of neo Nazis. The fact that this Leftist anti Jewish behaviour is often disguised as criticism of Israel does not change the fact that it is actually Jew hatred. Though they like to think of it as some kind of superior morality. I also find it passing strange to see this writer doing what the Left so often does – projecting onto the other side their own bad behaviour such as accusing Trump of being anti Israel or of being appeasers (apparently appeasing extremist Islam, which is a far greater threat than a tiny number of neo Nazis is OK however). Sickening.

  35. Rafe

    Based on the sentence alone i thought she had wken up to the alliance of leftists and militant Islamists.
    Bit of a let down.
    Like the Demons yesterday.

  36. H B Bear

    I’ll take Grauniad stories like this seriously when they are filed from inside a railway cattle truck.

    You can get mobile reception from a cattle truck right?

  37. mareeS

    Gosh, I read almost half of that before asking myself “why are you doing this?” Put it down to delayed effects of Saturday night. Jews have a tendency of self-loathing similar to the elites of EUrope and Australia.

  38. manalive

    Objectively, having an ancestor who survived the Holocaust is irrelevant, it doesn’t give her opinions any special authority; that’s the genetic fallacy (also known as the fallacy of origins or fallacy of virtue — Wiki).
    Conversely descendants of nazis, or descendants of our pioneers for that matter, carry no special guilt.
    She, they all, use faulty reasoning as in: Trump is supported by neo-nazis (allegedly) therefore he must support neo-nazis or guilt by association in this case ‘reductio ad Hitlerum’.

  39. Whalehunt Fun

    This idiot fake-news writer pretends to have jewish ancestry but makes up lies about Israel. She reckons my kind are antsemitic fascists. So why has she not done me the courtesy of safening my space by getting rid of herself? Talk about a lack of manners.

  40. True Aussie

    If only there was a country just for j ews that gives every j ew who moved there citizenship….

  41. feelthebern

    Not one to quibble over something like this, but…
    ….”walked back to France”.
    That would indicate that was where he came from.
    A J o o from France ending up in Auschwitz?
    Would make her father a statistical anomaly.

    A J o o living in France that lasted the war?
    Would make him another anomaly, as the French were very adapt at shipping them out.

    A J o o living in France that lasted the war & was part of the “Resistance”?
    Wow, the story just keeps getting better.
    If all French who said they were part of the resistance, actually were, I think the Germans would have had a rougher time whilst driving their Parisian coffees.

    & considering he died with an apartment full of the masters works.
    I’m going out on a limb here, but anyone who came into a lot of art around that time of the 20th century, either was minted (unlikely for this chap), stole them from their previous (a lot of the time J o o -ish) owners, or was a collaborator, serving their Nazi masters.

  42. I suspect Joe did in fact commit the crimes he was convicted of.

    Almost certainly. He was convicted, and facing jail time, for his police force checking the citizenship status of too many suspected illegal immigrants.

  43. There is a word for people who support and normalise Nazis and Nazi defenders, and that word is “appeasers”, and that now includes, shockingly, Israel, as well as the conservative J ews in Trump’s circle such as Jared Kushner – like me, a grandchild of a Holocaust survivor.

    This sentence is even more strange. But very true. I think I might start using that word. Sadly apposite.

  44. LGS

    Of course, a large section of the left, the leftist Antifa (if ever there was such an ironically named organisation!), and the leftist BDS are all such great lovers of Jews in general, and Israel in particular.
    LOL!
    On the other hand, members of Trump’s own family are Jews, and he is clearly keener on fostering a closer relationship with Israel than Obama ever was.

  45. LGS

    The saddest thing is – and she is probably too thick to realise it – she insults the memories of the victims of true Nazis.

  46. Jannie

    Its pretty sad all round. Its sad that the Right is so easily hijacked by Nazis, and easily presented as Nazis by the MSM. Those Nazis are probably Deep Cover agents planted by the KGB 40 years ago. Its sad that people can be fooled into digging their own graves, just like they did 74 years ago.

  47. GerardO

    It will never not be funny that Sinclair — who has pretensions of being a serious economist & policy wonk — publicly associates himself with the psychos & imbeciles who blog and comment here.
    I say this because there’s no point in engaging with any arguments on hsiweJ issues here, without it being conflated with Israel.

  48. Bruce

    Crossie:

    “And just like in 1930s the beautiful people side with the nazis. It’s instinctive to them as they find ugly art beautiful, ugly literature worthy and ugly movies as entertainment.”

    Probably all those snappy uniforms and high black boots.

    WW2 US Army infantry Sergeant, and good Jewish boy, Mel Brooks got it:

  49. Rabz

    I think I might start using that word

    You’d only be using correctly if you were describing yourself and the morons who share your views.

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