Free TV Australia think we’re stupid

Free TV Australia are denying that they have banned the advert for being “political”. Rather their story is this:

“The advertiser was requested, but declined, to add an identification tag to the commercial to comply with Schedule 2 of the Broadcasting Services Act,” the organisation said in a statement on Saturday.

“The Broadcasting Services Act requires broadcasters to ensure that commercials that contain ‘political matter’ identify the body responsible for the commercial, including the speakers in the commercial.”

Now I understand that Father’s Day is very politically incorrect – the overwhelming majority of fathers are male and as far as I can see very little, if not actually nothing, has been done to address that gender imbalance.

The argument Free TV Australia is making is this – we’re not saying the advert is political, but we’re asking you to self-declare it to be political.

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57 Responses to Free TV Australia think we’re stupid

  1. jock

    Lets be realistic. Its common knowledge that tv execs and the tv “talent” dont know or have fathers. So they feel discriminated against.

  2. Garry

    The majority once again being told what it is allowed to see or think by a very small and disgustingly deviant minority!

  3. chrisl

    This is the way it is heading. Welcome to the future.

  4. John64

    So an ad to be aired around Fathers Day that depicts dads as an overwhelmingly positive influence on their children as they are loving, nurturing, proud and protective is deemed to contain “political matter”.

    This country is f***ed.

  5. Alexi the Conservative Russian

    Could the last person to leave please turn out the lights? Actually thinking of this there will be no lights given the governments crazy RET.

  6. cui bono

    Yeah, put all the speakers’ names on the ad so the haters can jump on them through facebook and twitter. Got it.

  7. chrisl

    To be a dad is a political statement!

  8. LGS

    Father’s Day is now political?
    God help this country, because no one else will!
    Abominable.

  9. Aussieute

    Free TV declined to answer detailed­ questions submitted by The Weekend Australian yesterday asking why the ad was deemed to be political, citing “strict confidentiality arrangements” and saying it also had to consider the “context surrounding the advertisement”.
    Free TV chairman and prominent businessman Harold Mitchell also declined to comment.

    Seems like everyone at FreeTV are gutless for their action and have had an operation on their tongue.

  10. Confused Old Misfit

    [email protected]

    That promotion is without doubt completely apolitical.

    In common courtesy you should justify your reasoning to the Dads 4 Kid organization.

    In common courtesy you should not expect any intelligent Australian to regard your attempt to politicize this promotion as legitimate.

    That a living, breathing sentient human being could have made a determination that there was political material or intent in a promotion for Fathers Day beggars the imagination.

    The person or persons responsible should be ashamed of themselves. They have demonstrated that they are not fit to hold the position(s) they do.

    They are a disgrace to the industry.\

    Former CBC Television Producer/Director
    Grandfather

  11. A Lurker

    And we thought that S18C was bad.

    Expect this kind of insanity to be ramped up to weaponised levels if SSM is written into law.
    Anyone who fails to comprehend that simple fact is an imbecile or brainwashed or complicit.

  12. Muddy

    No misandry here, obviously.

  13. rickw

    It is going to take a shitload of ammo, piano wire and lamp posts to get this fucking mess sorted out.

  14. Aussieute

    Will Qantas be required to identify their advertising material as political advertising in light of the Dads4Kids decision?

  15. Squirrel

    This sadly, is all of a piece with the clunky globalist BS which is increasingly apparent in the advertising aired on free to air TV – it started with the exquisitely correct luvvies at the ABC, and now the commercial TV twits are pumping out the same rubbish.

    We should at least be glad that the earlier series of commercials from Dads4Kids made it to air – they were superb.

  16. calli

    Confused Old Misfit
    #2486415, posted on September 2, 2017 at 4:59 pm

    I admire your confidence that a sentient life form will open that email.

  17. Speedbox

    An appalling disgrace but as another pointed out: welcome to the future.

  18. Roger

    Is the ad political or politically incorrect?

  19. Speedbox

    To my mind, this homosexual marriage thing is actually a Trojan horse.

    In the broader sense, the so-called debate is a bitter struggle between the Marxist Left and the Conservative Christian Right. SSM is merely the “vehicle” used by the Left towards their vision of the future. If successful in crippling a major tenet of the Christian faith (and by extension, the Conservatives), this will usher in a raft of societal changes.

    I have mentioned in various threads previously that if homosexual marriage is allowed, then there cannot be a logical argument against polygamy and a host of other social change. Remember that less that 10 years ago, the idea of homosexual “marriage” was on the fringe. Where will we be in 10 years from now?

    And the Left will fight dirty every inch of the way. Look at how those who have publicly voiced their opposition to “SSM” have been hounded, shouted down, and their private family details made public.

    The Australia I knew as a child and most of my adult life has gone and, whilst social change is often necessary, not all change is for the good.

    I am tempted to say that this country is about to be buggered – but that is too obvious a play on words.

  20. Haidee

    If it’s a bitter struggle between the Marxist Left and the Conservative Christian Right,
    then we need to win

  21. cui bono

    Freeble TV argue they are complying with the law:
    Free TV Australia said political matter was defined as anything appearing to “comment on, encourage participation in or attempt to influence a certain outcome within a political process”.

    It noted recent decisions by regulatory body the Australian Communications and Media Authority required broadcasters to consider the content of websites referred to in commercials when deciding if they contained political matter. In its ad, Dads4Kids provides a link to its website dads4kids.org.au.

    The group has now shut down the site and its social media presence – saying it was a “preventative step” to protect itself from vilification – but a recently archived version shows material on same-sex marriage.

    In the past, Dads4Kids has described gay and lesbian relationships as examples of “gender disorientation pathology”, labelling recognition of them an “attack on the rights of the children of Australia”.

    The Australian reported Dads4Kids had “inadequate resources” to recut the commercial with the required identification and authorisation message at the end.

    The group said it had not intended to enter the same-sex marriage debate ahead of the nationwide postal survey but predicted it would nonetheless be “subject to the same vilification…meted out to those who have stuck their head above the parapet on same-sex marriage”.

    Yep, don’t say anything. You’ll get slammed in Australia.

  22. alexnoaholdmate

    I’m not sure I understand.

    So they didn’t ban the ad for being political. No one’s claiming it’s political. Settle down, you bigo… I mean, concerned citizens.

    But they did ban it for not including the tag that political ads are meant to include.

    The fact the makers of the ad didn’t include one means FreeTv can’t run it. Because it’s political.

    Have I got this right?

  23. Suburban Boy

    I think it’s actually reasonable to hold that an advert that promotes fatherhood is “political matter” in the current age. The hard left and its dupes have targeted the traditional family structure for destruction, thus politicising that institution and its elements including fatherhood.

    But if the goose requires saucing then so does the gander. If an advert promoting fatherhood requires a political caption, then so does every advert for “Modern Family” and other programs that promote alternative family structures. But I won’t hold my breath waiting for such captioning.

  24. The fact the makers of the ad didn’t include one means FreeTv can’t run it. Because it’s political. Have I got this right?

    No, because FreeTV’s entire argument is total BS. Two reasons. First, Schedule II of the Broadcasting Services Act only refers to advertisements made in relation to a Federal or State (or Territory) election, or Referendum. We aren’t having one of those, so the Act is irrelevant.

    Second, even if we were having one of those – which we aren’t – Schedule II only applies to a very narrow set of advertisements – essentially those supporting a candidate, or the political party of a candidate, or by inference, attacking alternative candidates or their parties.

    Since the advert doesn’t promote a Dads4Kids candidate, or attack his opponents, or their political parties, in the election or referendum we are not having anyway, it all has SFA to do with the Broadcasting Services Act.

    FreeTV Australia have attempted to subvert the Act by substituting “political matter” – which could be just about anything – for “election advertisement” which is quite specific.

    This is a matter for a formal complaint to ACMA. I’m prepared to do the drafting, if someone else can do the legwork, and somebody can cover any minor, incidental expenses.

  25. A Lurker

    This is a matter for a formal complaint to ACMA. I’m prepared to do the drafting, if someone else can do the legwork, and somebody can cover any minor, incidental expenses.

    You might want to contact Dads4Kids directly as they are the aggrieved party.

  26. classical_hero

    The way the left are acting is a massive own goal. Keep up the good work.

  27. Confused Old Misfit

    I think it’s actually reasonable to hold that an advert that promotes fatherhood is “political matter” in the current age.

    And that is capitulation to

    The hard left and its dupes…

    It is absolutely UNreasonable to hold that view.

  28. You might want to contact Dads4Kids directly as they are the aggrieved party.

    No Lurker, in this case I am the aggrieved party. Dads4Kids are also certainly an aggrieved party for various reasons, but in my case I am an aggrieved party because a private body (FreeTV) has misrepresented and subverted Commonwealth legislation in an attempt to exercise censorship control, and that really, really pisses me off.

  29. Seco

    Just call Father’s Day “Penny Wong Day” and put the final nail in the coffin for God’s sake.

  30. I think it’s actually reasonable to hold that an advert that promotes fatherhood is “political matter” in the current age.

    “Political matter” in relation to the Act is anything to do with matters I have already outlined, that is, support for a candidate or their party in an election or referendum campaign. It is not up to FreeTV to start redefining the meaning of terms used (and defined) in legislation, to support their own political campaign for their own social agenda.

  31. old bloke

    So, being a Dad is now a “Political Matter”, bloody disgraceful.

  32. JamesS

    Over the last few years I have noted that freedom of speech is slowly being whittled away. Can’t believe much emanating out of Canberra, the true agenda is never stated. Agreed, SSM is a Trojan horse. The true reason is to demean the family unit.

  33. jupes

    The way the left are acting is a massive own goal. Keep up the good work.

    Exactly.

    This is great news as it highlights everything the ‘no’ campaign has been saying.

  34. Muddy

    Good to see you are still around, memoryvault.

  35. Good to see you are still around, memoryvault.

    I’m batching at the moment, Muddy.
    First time on my own in seven years.
    Thank heavens it’s only for ten more days.

  36. zyconoclast

    I’m batching at the moment, Muddy.
    First time on my own in seven years.
    Thank heavens it’s only for ten more days.

    It took a couple of seconds to realise you meant being a bachelor.
    I first thought of process batching such as concrete.

  37. Suburban Boy

    FreeTV Australia have attempted to subvert the Act by substituting “political matter” – which could be just about anything – for “election advertisement” which is quite specific.

    Clause 1 in Schedule 2 of the Broadcasting Services Act defines “political matter” as “any political matter, including the policy launch of a political party”. “Election matter” is defined separately in terms that limit it to material related to an election.

    The ban of an “election advertisement”, which applies only in the lead up to an election, is imposed by clause 3A. Separately, clause 4 contains the requirement for “political matter” to include the end caption material, and it applies at all times (not just election periods).

    Agreeing that fatherhood is a political issue is not capitulation to the hard left, it’s simply recognition that the hard left have occupied the commanding heights of our society. It’s an outrage, it’s tragic and it needs to be fought. But that is the situation as things stand.

  38. I think you are grasping at straws to support a totalitarian point of view, Suburban Boy. I think it is quite clear from the structure of Schedule II, that it specifically refers to elections and the like. Otherwise, 90% of all adverts would require a political disclaimer.

    For instance, by your definition an advert for a non-halal certified food product would qualify as a “political matter”, regardless of whether the advert mentioned such certification or not. Ditto for a food product that WAS halal certified. Both would require the political disclaimer.

    And what about Qantas? Where are the disclaimers on their ads?

  39. A Lurker

    Revealing reader comments from this newspaper article:

    Monty_Batton1 17 hours ago
    @lycrabikedyke You sound very worried sunshine. Are you scared that the No vote will win?

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    lycrabikedyke 16 hours ago
    Not worried at all Monty. My partner and I have already set our wedding date and have our eye on a beautiful church. There’s no doubt about the result!!

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    Richard_Lyon-Hart1 16 hours ago
    @lycrabikedyke there will be a huge no vote, and there will be no church for you.

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    lycrabikedyke 16 hours ago
    Oh yes. There will definitely be a church for me. When this goes through I will get married when I want, to whom I want, and where I want. There will be no more discrimination and the courts will back me up on this.

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    AinSydney 16 hours ago
    @lycrabikedyke Lycra, in my church we are obedient to God’s word. You are welcome to come there to worship, pray, and bow down to God with us. But we will not celebrate a gay wedding there, as we are assured by His word that it is not part of his plan.

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    Monty_Batton1 16 hours ago
    @lycrabikedyke Isn’t that interesting? You only have one eye? Shows you how narrow visioned you are.
    May I suggest a visit to specsavers instead of the church?
    Cheers.

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    lycrabikedyke 16 hours ago
    So, just more hate from the Christians – what else? It’s not likely but if your church is the one we’ve been looking at, and we are not “allowed” to get married there — you will be exposed in the media and find yourself in court so fast it will make your head spin. Have a nice day!!

  40. calli

    Interesting that lycrabikedyke equates Christians saying “no” to her demands as hate.

    Bit of projection there.

  41. Tel

    … you will be exposed in the media and find yourself in court so fast it will make your head spin. Have a nice day!!

    In other words there is no intention to protect the rights of Christians. It’s really about proving a point and rubbing other people’s nose in it.

    Thanks, that’s helped me understand how I need to vote on this.

  42. Crossie

    Agreeing that fatherhood is a political issue is not capitulation to the hard left, it’s simply recognition that the hard left have occupied the commanding heights of our society. It’s an outrage, it’s tragic and it needs to be fought. But that is the situation as things stand.

    In which case the postal plebiscite is lost, or rather the “Yes” will win. When the left is in charge of everything then they will decide the outcome. To paraphrase Stalin, it’s not who votes that counts but who counts that matters.

  43. Crossie

    In other words there is no intention to protect the rights of Christians. It’s really about proving a point and rubbing other people’s nose in it.

    Thanks, that’s helped me understand how I need to vote on this.

    It’s just as well it’s only a plebiscite, if it were a referendum which they would still rig it would have constitutional imprimatur. Try reversing that or defending Christianity from it.

  44. Exit Stage Right

    Happy Fathers Day to all dads. I wonder who is playing father in the Wendy Pong household?

  45. overburdened

    The sisterhood is strong. I think it’s the menstrual thing and their perceived inherent unfairness of life that men do not have a comparative cycle or the capacity to naturally grow a baby with the associated physical aspects of gestation and birth. This gives me an explanation for the orthodoxy in organisations, particularly Government, of women actively seeking grounds for offence against male workers. The driver is resentment and the consequent social engineering has been the enabler, making these places toxic. The sweep into civil life is a natural consequence of the potency of this. First rule of operative conditioning- a behaviour followed by reinforcement promotes the behaviour.
    As for homosexuals, it never ceases to amaze that so many self declared homosexuals got married to a member of the other gender and had children, then switched teams. The type one homosexual who has never aspired to a usual relationship is a different fish. It is the fashion in some circles to be homosexual, a bit like how it is fashionable to identify these days with the faint sliver of indigenousness rather than ones majority genetic makeup, but not wanting to go back to the bush life rather than complain about it.
    Either way there is a tried and true method of procreation that all other fauna apart from snails and a few other anomalies, and some flora, practice apparently without trauma. I look forward to the homosexuals taking that job on after laying waste to their own species.

  46. Rabz

    Dads4Kids has described gay and lesbian relationships as examples of “gender disorientation pathology”, labelling recognition of them an “attack on the rights of the children of Australia”.

    Now that’s what might be referred to as “being political”. The statement bolded above, is of course, entirely correct.

  47. Rabz

    I admire your confidence that a sentient life form will open that email.

    Thanks calli – I’m now envisioning (and chuckling while doing so) some monumental dullard opening ol’ misfit’s email and attempting to comprehend its message.

  48. If an advert promoting fatherhood requires a political caption, then so does every advert for “Modern Family” and other programs that promote alternative family structures.

    Thanks Suburban Boy, I’ve used that in my complaint to FreeTV.

    BTW, why is it called “FreeTV” when all it does is impose restrictions and close down free speech?

  49. Up The Workers!

    I wonder if the adverts had “starred” Benny Wong as the proud “Dad”, whether that would have been more acceptable to the politically correct misandrist Q.W.E.R.T.Y.L.G.B.T.Q.I.S.S.M. decency-phobic Leftard group-‘finkers’?

  50. A Lurker

    BTW, why is it called “FreeTV” when all it does is impose restrictions and close down free speech?

    It’s an example of classic Orwellian Newspeak.

  51. cuckoo

    As many have observed, this is how speech policing works in a totalitarian state. The Commissar doesn’t have to personally intervene in each and every instance. After enough individuals get exemplary punishment, people start self-policing, just in case. And they usually over-compensate, like these Free TV clowns. Mark Steyn tells a good story somewhere of being stopped by some morlock at a border control and being told he couldn’t bring something in because of the Patriot Act. Steyn stood his ground and insisted on being shown where it said this in the Patriot Act, until the morlock backed down and admitted it didn’t.

  52. Neenee

    FREE TV is being replaced by FREE INTERNET in my house. The politically correct TV channels are rarely relevant to me and my family. Free TV are too blind to see that they are hastening their own demise.

  53. Hasbeen

    You have obviously not watched any daytime TV, or much evening TV recently. Other wise you could not make the statement that “Free TV Australia think we’re stupid”. No you would be aware that they know we, or at least their regular audience, are stupid. If they weren’t there is no way the TVs would be on & being watched, with the garbage on offer.

    Those morning chat shows are on a par with those dreadful dinner parties I had to attend when I was living with that beautiful ballet Choreographer. She had a fantastic body, but no body was worth sitting through another one of those.

  54. Rayvic

    The more ‘progressive’ the media becomes, the lower its credibility.

    The same can be said about our MPs. The two examples of political correctness that stand out are: catastrophic anthropogenic global warming and same-sex marriage. Their implementation is contrary to the national interest.

    We have gone from having the cheapest energy in the world with reliable, economic coal-fired power to the dearest by switching to high-cost, unreliable, uncontrollable renewables.

    Although same-sex couples already have the same legal rights as opposite-sex couples, our gullible MPs are influenced by homosexual activists into accepting same-sex marriage that will result in the suppression of basic freedoms (freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of conscience) with the objective of destroying traditional marriage and traditional values and giving rise to homosexual totalitarian ‘culture’.

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