Monday Forum: September 11, 2017

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  1. stackja

    13 ‎September 1982, Lindy Chamberlain goes on trial in Darwin, accused of murdering her baby Azaria at Ayers Rock. Her conviction is overturned in 1987.

  2. stackja

    dover_beach
    #2496204, posted on September 13, 2017 at 8:42 am

    God help us! Please!

  3. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    STATE POLITICS
    Three states do the heavy lifting on GST

    The Australian
    12:00AM September 13, 2017
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    Andrew Burrell
    WA Chief Reporter
    Perth
    @AndrewBurrell7

    NSW, Victoria and Western Australia are the only states making a net financial contribution to the federation, according to new data that shows South Australia, Queensland, Tasmania and the Northern Territory are being subsidised to the tune of $28 billion a year.

    The figures, contained in the WA budget papers, show NSW’s overall contribution in 2015-16 was $4.6bn, or $599 per person, and Victoria’s was $1.3bn, or $216 for each resident.

    WA made the biggest net contribution of $21.7bn — about $8500 per person — due to its low share of the GST, high levels of commonwealth taxes generated in the state and its relatively low draw on social security.

    Treasurer Ben Wyatt claimed the figures showed the extent of the fiscal problems faced by the new Labor government.

    “Trying to fix the books while this level of subsidy goes on is akin to be asked to do so while standing on your head with one hand tied behind your back,” he told The Australian.

    The amounts are measured by the difference between commonwealth revenues generated in a state, including GST, and commonwealth spending for the benefit of that state.

    The biggest net subsidy was received by SA ($9.3bn), followed by Queensland ($8.1bn), Tasmania ($5.6bn) and the NT ($4.6bn). The NT has long received higher levels of GST payments and federal spending due to its high indigenous population and cost of service delivery.

    In the budget papers, Treasury said WA this year would ­effectively contribute about $4.4bn of GST to other states through the Commonwealth Grants Commission’s equalisation process, compared with if the revenue was distributed on a per capita basis.

    WA’s GST share has deteriorated since the end of the resources boom, during which it was able to generate record levels of mining royalties and other revenues. Overall, Treasury estimates that the commonwealth derived $53.3bn in revenue from WA in 2015-16, while expenditure for the state’s benefit totalled just $31.6bn.

    “On a per capita basis, Western Australia’s net contribution was more than 14 times greater than NSW and nearly 40 times greater than Victoria,” it said.

    Mr Wyatt said the figures highlighted the urgent need for GST reform. “It also shows how disappointing it is that there has been so little action taken to remedy the situation in the last few years, especially as WA’s ­finances have deteriorated so ­severely,” he said. “The analysis shows that the GST revenue is only a small fraction of WA’s total subsidy to other states and why we expect that commonwealth funding to WA should not be linked to GST payments.”

    From the Oz. Lift your game, you mob – Sandgropers are sick of carrying the rest of you.

  4. thefrolickingmole

    Seattle Democrat mayor resigns after revelations he raped his male cousin for a year.

    Whoopi says it wasnt “rape-Rape” so thats ok.

  5. Bruce in WA

    As the great 20th century philosopher B. Bunny esq. was wont to say: “What a maroon!”

    Vic arrest after guns for sale on Facebook

    Victoria Police have seized several prohibited weapons that were allegedly being sold through Facebook.

    Officers executed a warrant on a Narre Warren home on Tuesday night after being alerted to the online selling.

    A 39-year-old Cranbourne man is expected to be charged with possessing and dealing in prohibited and controlled weapons.

  6. The typical well-balanced Q&A audience that consists of no less than 45% conservative voters ?

    Point taken, but consider this, even the standard Labor voter only 20 years ago, would have considered the claim that ‘the natural family was the least safe place for children’ outrageous, and would have demanded to see what evidence there was to substantiate such a preposterous claim. Now, it appears, they mindlessly cheer. The best spin I can put on this is that it was a lemming-like response to the claims that were falling from the Michaeli’s mouth since they were critical of the No case. At worst, they mark a real break with the past and demonstrate how radical contemporary views of marriage and the family are in at least a substantial portion of the population, one that has control of a major political party, if not both.

  7. Myrddin Seren

    TRANSGENDER Is A Mental Disorder,

    “Corey is a casualty – his mother is the perpetrator”.

    Another insane woman who drags her kid’s issues through social media so she can be the star of her own psycho drama.

    And rather than be damned for this exploitation, she will be lauded as ‘brave’.

    What a time.

  8. Geriatric Mayfly

    Perhaps the hate families crusaders have a point. That Ben Shapiro clip of srr’s makes it perfectly clear that Corey’s mother is a very dangerous person, and no child would be safe in her care. One simply presumes, out of habit, that there is no resident father.

  9. Senile Old Guy

    The New Daily has a piece up: “Five reasons why marriage equality will not destroy life as we know it“.

    1. Marriage is not a sacred institution: Despite what you might hear, marriage hasn’t always been between a man and a woman, preferably forever and for the purpose of having children. That’s the version Christian churches created when they started to adopt popular pre-Christian marriage traditions. In many societies outside Christianity, marriage also included polygamy and husbands having concubines.

    …the argument, such as it is, acknowledges that SSM will wreck traditional marriage. And, apparently, the Christian tradition was created when “they started to adopt popular pre-Christian marriage traditions”. So traditional marriage was, uh, traditional.

    2. Gay marriage will not affect religious freedom: Churches already have the right to refuse to officiate marriages for divorced or interfaith couples. This right will be extended to the refusal of same-sex couples.

    Yes, really, the author is that stupid. Or deceitful.

    3. Marriage equality will not limit free speech: Australia does not have completely free speech like the US, but there are no laws that would prevent us from speaking against marriage equality were it legalised. Free speech in Australia is limited by defamation, censorship and some terrorism laws, and the Racial Discrimination Act, which makes it illegal to offend, insult, intimidate or humiliate a person based on their race, colour or ethnicity.

    Pretty much everywhere it has been introduced, SSM has reduced freedom of speech. The SF* Liberals are right now introducing laws which will do just that.

    4. Marriage equality will not dictate what kids wear to school: The “No” case people clearly think Safe Schools is their secret weapon against marriage equality.

    SSM advocates have already said that this is just the start of transforming society. Some have said marriage itself should be abolished.

    5. Single-sex parents raise great kids: Australia’s single parents know only too well that healthy children can be successfully raised by families without either a father or a mother.

    Who exactly raises children without “either a father or a mother”? A robot? Yes, I realise it is just a badly written sentence but it is an example of how poor the “yes” arguments are. Almost all single parents will be the father, or more usually, the mother of the children they are raising. And the fact that some “can” does not mean that most are.

    Compare Paul Kelly’s piece (quoted in full up thread) to this and consider the quality of the “yes” case.

  10. Myrddin Seren

    Dover

    At worst, they mark a real break with the past and demonstrate how radical contemporary views of marriage and the family are in at least a substantial portion of the population, one that has control of a major political party, if not both.

    Everything old is new again.

    The Atlantic republishes an article from 1926:

    When the Bolsheviki came into power in 1917 they regarded the family, like every other ‘bourgeois’ institution, with fierce hatred, and set out with a will to destroy it. ‘To clear the family out of the accumulated dust of the ages we had to give it a good shakeup, and we did,’ declared Madame Smidovich, a leading Communist and active participant in the recent discussion.

    There are other links out there in a similar vein.

    The ghosts of Lenin and Gramsci are about in modern society.

  11. Nothing gets past Paul Kelly.

    At least he wasn’t wrong (again).

    I’ve always liked Paul Kelly. He’s always tried to be genuinely impartial, however giving equal weight to radical ideologues can only poison one’s mind.

  12. Des Deskperson

    In the meantime, Benjamin Law is getting a lot of publicity from the Fairfax Canberra Times:

    http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/benjamin-law-urges-parents-to-get-the-facts-on-safe-schools-20170912-gyfsde.html

    without any mention of his recent and unhelpful tweets.

    I’m intrigued about the machinery by which a guy like Law, whom no one had ever heard of a couple of months ago, suddenly becomes a national figure and a leading public intellectual.

    I’d also be intrigued to know how previous ABC/Fairfax gay pets like Josh Thomas and his one time partner Tom Ballard – imagine those two in their conjugal bed – feel about being usurped by Law.

  13. JC

    This is diabolical.

    EnergyAustralia has warned it could be forced to shut one of the nation’s newest and most ­efficient black-coal-fired power stations supplying up to 1.2 million customers in NSW, following a Court of Appeal decision it claims has threatened its only supply of coal to the plant.

    The potential closure would take up to 1400 megawatts out of the energy market, or the equivalent of 15 per cent of electricity supply to the NSW system.

    The Australian has confirmed with EnergyAustralia executives that the prospect of a forced shutdown of the Mount Piper power station in central-western NSW, which has an operational life to 2042, was a “real risk” following legal action launched by green ­activist group 4nature against planning consent for an extension of the Springvale mine owned by Centennial Coal.

    The uncertainty is believed ­already to be having an impact on power prices. EnergyAustralia, which also operates Yallourn in Victoria, is unable to sell two-year contracts to commercial customers. It is now stockpiling coal at the Mount Piper site as a contingency over the insecurity of supply from Springvale.

    EnergyAustralia chairman Graham Bradley told The Australian that the company was now in a “diabolical” position which if unresolved could affect supply to more than one million customers in NSW. “It is an appalling situation,” Mr Bradley said. “It’s the newest clean-coal station in NSW and perhaps the whole nation. It would be a tragedy for it to be out of operation for want of coal supply.

  14. Geriatric Mayfly

    Graduate owes government $462,000 uni debt
    Some university graduates owe the federal government six-figure debts, with one racking up a bill of more than $462,000.
    The Oz

    Let me guess. A Doctorate in Wimmin’s Studies, a Master’s in Queer Studies, Another Doctorate in Interpretive Dance, Dropped out of English Literature after 18 months, currently researching a PhD thesis on Homo Marriage.

  15. following legal action launched by green ­activist group 4nature against planning consent for an extension of the Springvale mine owned by Centennial Coal.

    Neo-Luddites hellbent on sending us all back to the dark ages.

  16. notafan

    Of course Corey the transgender is the girliest girl that ever walked the planet.

    Like Bruce Jenner is the most feminine 65 going on 21 year old you ever saw.

    Bad luck if he changes his mind.

    No womb, no woman. (Don’t bother with but some women blah blah)

    Pseudo science from the post truthers who constantly mock the Church as anti science.

    No wonder these poor people so often kill themselves, being a woman isn’t about tangled curls, lipstick and high heels.

  17. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Let me guess. A Doctorate in Wimmin’s Studies, a Master’s in Queer Studies, Another Doctorate in Interpretive Dance, Dropped out of English Literature after 18 months, currently researching a PhD thesis on Homo Marriage.

    Add “Aboriginal studies” and you’ve presented a full list of the SJW’s educational profile.

  18. Roger

    Neo-Luddites hellbent on sending us all back to the dark ages.

    With tax payers’ money.

    The revolution is subsidised.

  19. That’s nothing compared to the utter quackery that now infests American universities.

    American academia is quickly descending into superstition. They now have professors in things equivalent to fairies, witchcraft, earth worship and animal sacrifice.

  20. Anthony

    What’s the latest? Is Mr Kim going to nuke the US today, or tomorrow?

  21. John64

    EnergyAustralia has warned it could be forced to shut one of the nation’s newest and most ­efficient black-coal-fired power stations supplying up to 1.2 million customers in NSW, following a Court of Appeal decision it claims has threatened its only supply of coal to the plant.

    I’d be taking these sorts of stories with a grain of salt.

    EnergyAustralia knows that Mick Trumble is bent-over and lubed-up over energy security. Now is the time to strike.

    Look for legislation, subsidies and tax breaks soon to keep EnergyAustralia happy.

  22. Baldrick

    Seattle Democrat mayor resigns after revelations he raped his male cousin for a year.

    That’s okay. According to the ABC and Benjamin Law it’s only part of a comedy routine.

  23. Geriatric Mayfly

    What’s the latest? Is Mr Kim going to nuke the US today, or tomorrow?

    Coming up, “Pain and suffering like they have never known.” That was yesterday. Sounds like he is going to unleash a Homo marriage bombshell on the US populace.

  24. thefrolickingmole

    The Beer Whisperer

    Never, our unis are bastions of sensible learning.
    http://aihm.wa.edu.au/naturopathy-course-recognition.html
    Articulation with Charles Sturt University that enable our graduates to enroll in the Bachelor of Health Science (Complementary Medicine) degree with advanced standing.

    Master of Peace and Conflict Studies (MPaCS)
    Students will gain an advanced understanding of how conflicts emerge and how they can be managed and solved in a nonviolent manner. Topics covered span from the local to the global and include issues such as peacebuilding, conflict resolution and prevention, mediation, nonviolence, gender and security as well as peace and development.

  25. calli

    Top o’ the morning Cats.

    Has Law been arrested for using a carriage service to threaten a humorous rape yet? If not, why not?

  26. Atoms for Peace

    Malcolm in the middle of energy negotiations

  27. C.L.

    Has Law been arrested for using a carriage service to threaten a humorous rape yet? If not, why not?

    I would have thought advocating the rape and assault of MPs was a serious, federal offence.

  28. Baldrick

    Darkest Hour, looks to be a great filum by all accounts.

  29. calli

    I should have said anal rape. There’s really nothing funnier.

    And just in case, I found the packet of /sarc tags for m0nty.

  30. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    THE WORLD
    Cross-dressing boy, 6, divides British school community

    The Australian
    12:00AM September 13, 2017
    43
    Jacquelin Magnay
    Foreign correspondent
    Europe
    @jacquelinmagnay

    Three years after England, Wales and Scotland legalised same-sex marriage, and just months after sex education became mandatory at school, a row has unfolded over whether a six-year-old boy should be allowed to wear a dress to primary school.

    The boy, who attends a Church of England school on the Isle of Wight, wanted to identify as a girl, but another family has pulled their son from school because he faced disciplinary action for “mis-gendering’’ the boy, the BBC said.

    Nigel and Sally Rowe said their son was confused as to why the boy dressed as both a boy and a girl and claimed there was a political agenda driving the issues. The Rowes, who say they are a Christian family, intend to home-school their son.

    In 2013, the British government passed legislation making gay marriage legal from 2014 with comparatively little community debate compared with what has gone on in Australia, but issues touching on gay, bisexual or transsexual rights in education have since struck a raw nerve.

    The Isle of Wight school said it was required to “respect div­ersity of all kinds’’ and told the parents it supported whatever decision a parent or child made about sexual identity. “If a child wants to do that (wear a dress and identify as a female) then we have to accept it,” the school told the Rowe family.

    The issue has divided community opinion. Mr Rowe said: “I am shocked by the suggestion, especially from a church school, that just because we question the notion that a six-year-old boy can really become a girl, we are transphobic.”

    Mrs Rowe said: “We believe (our son) was under stress by the confusion that was caused by having a boy in his class who decided he was going to have a girl’s name and dress as a girl.”

    Westminster is midway through conducting a 12-week LGBT survey to help formulate further government policies that could apply to schools. In Britain, there is already a trend towards non-gender specific school uniforms and there are proposals to include a non-gender category in the breakdown of high school results, at ages of 15 and 17.

    The moves come as the Nat­ional Health Service’s Gender Identity Development Service clinic at Tavistock and Portman Trust has seen huge increases over the past two years of young people seeking referrals.

    In 2016-17, 2016 referrals were received at the clinic, a 42 per cent increase on the previous year. In 2014, there were 697 referrals.

    More than two-thirds were ­females seeking to be identified as male.

    From the Oz? At six years old? Why do I have the nasty suspicion that his parents are playing “Look at Moi! Look at Moi!”

  31. Roger

    Last night on The Dumb David Marr implied Benjamin Law was on the lunatic fringe of the ssm movement.

    Tonight he’s “in conversation” with him at the Seymour Centre.

  32. struth

    When the Bolsheviki came into power in 1917 they regarded the family, like every other ‘bourgeois’ institution, with fierce hatred, and set out with a will to destroy it. ‘To clear the family out of the accumulated dust of the ages we had to give it a good shakeup, and we did,’ declared Madame Smidovich, a leading Communist and active participant in the recent discussion.

    This is the angle that I’m coming at this from.

    SSM is a Marxist attack and it’s all been done before.
    This SSM caper is straight out of the Marxist/communist playbook of yesteryear.

    We need to look at history.

    Getting this shit out there is what may sway a few people to think past the “who cares about what gays do, let them get married” thought of most Aussies.

    And there is a lot to draw from.
    The anti family, anti Christian far left have been at this for many years and their resultant failed, destitute, depraved poverty stricken hell hole states all have a history of this bullshit previously enacted as a pre requisite to achieve said failure.
    From the NAZIS to Russia.
    It’s about the kids.
    Indoctrinating children.
    And the family must be destroyed to achieve this.

    There won’t be an official document with the words father or mother written on them within a short time of the yes vote winning.
    Even without the yes vote winning they will still bring this in anyway.
    The yes vote speeds indoctrination of children up and awards much more power over children by the likes of self declared Marxists who run “safe schools”

    Insanity and hatred.

    Marxism.

  33. C.L.

    Last night on The Dumb David Marr implied Benjamin Law was on the lunatic fringe of the ssm movement.

    There is no SS”M” spectrum.
    All people who want SS”M” are lunatics.
    Beware the spectrum squirrel.

  34. The potential closure would take up to 1400 megawatts out of the energy market …

    Sad, but the sooner this happens, the sooner the roonables racket will collapse.

    Power shortages and even greater cost burdens will slowly stir the peasants.

  35. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    No wonder these poor people so often kill themselves, being a woman isn’t about tangled curls, lipstick and high heels.

    A short sentence that says it all.

    Gender dysphoria is analogous to other bodily dysphorias, particularly Anorexia Nervosa. It ruins lives of young people in exactly the same way and requires psychiatric treatment not media fawning.

  36. 1. Marriage is not a sacred institution: Despite what you might hear, marriage hasn’t always been between a man and a woman, preferably forever and for the purpose of having children. That’s the version Christian churches created when they started to adopt popular pre-Christian marriage traditions. In many societies outside Christianity, marriage also included polygamy and husbands having concubines.

    There are so many problems with this single criticism that it boggles the mind. Firstly, nothing that follows the claim actually contradicts it, namely that marriage is a sacred institution. Secondly, if you look at pre-Christian traditions in the West or non-Christian traditions outside of the West, marriage will usually be found within the religious traditions that pertained therein. Thirdly, even polygamous marriages were between a man and a woman, even where several women are involved, because polygamous marriages only join the husband and wife, never the wives together. Fourthly, marriages always involved vows of a life-long union. Fifth, concubinage was generally tolerated but not approved of, and was understood to be a problem for marriage and family. Lastly, the claim that marriage was not for the purpose of having and raising children on the grounds that some married people do not have children is preposterous. It’s like arguing that cars are not for driving on the grounds that some people keep them in the garage.

    If you are looking for the dumbest arguments on the net, read an article supporting the Yes case. You will not be disappointed.

  37. Geriatric Mayfly

    Has Law been arrested for using a carriage service to threaten a humorous rape yet? If not, why not?

    Just a moment ago Korman was on his hind trotters in the Senate announcing the new legislation designed specifically to snare the likes of Law. Fat chance. We know exactly who they are after, and it will not be him.

  38. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    There won’t be an official document with the words father or mother written on them within a short time of the yes vote winning.
    Even without the yes vote winning they will still bring this in anyway.
    The yes vote speeds indoctrination of children up and awards much more power over children by the likes of self declared Marxists who run “safe schools”

    A solid ‘no’ vote would make this a whole lot harder though. Big bollards of ‘no’ saying stop it.

  39. struth

    Let’s face it, if you think that two people of the same sex can marry, you are insane.

    And in that lies the proof of what indoctrination can achieve.

    Pure insanity.

    And it’s not that hard.

    Just let Marxists get to the children.

  40. Roger

    Beware the spectrum squirrel.

    Merely reporting.

    Marr was chortling at Paul Kelly’s concerns last night, tonight he’s legitimising Law.

  41. Calli, just for larfs I’ll see your comment on anal rape and raise you one vile taunt from the ABC’s newest star:

    But Herald Sun columnist Rita Panahi found an old tweet of Law’s aimed at another famous female journo. Twitter, February 2, 2011:

    Nice to see Miranda Devine’s still able to be a snide c..t from hell …

    h/t The Oz.

  42. Senile Old Guy

    From that piece in The Australian:

    The number of young people aged under 10 seeking help has quadrupled in the past six years, with the youngest aged just three.

    Three?

  43. struth

    A solid ‘no’ vote would make this a whole lot harder though. Big bollards of ‘no’ saying stop it.

    I agree.

    However my point is that it will not stop it as evidence by safe schools brainwashing children as we speak, before the SSM survey, (for a survey is all it is)

    We have a fight on many fronts and won’t be able to put our feet up on the back of a win for the NO vote.

  44. C.L.

    Yes, Turnbull’s team are on the airwaves boasting about the new rules they’ve drafted to silence, fine and jail opponents of fake marriage. This is the government that tried to jail Bolt and Leak, remember.

  45. Geriatric Mayfly

    Nice to see Miranda Devine’s still able to be a snide c..t from hell …

    But…but… can’t you see the humour in this. Irony, jest, a bon mot, call it what you will, it was not meant to offend.

  46. Senile Old Guy

    If you want a break from gender-bending, try this:

    The Cassini spacecraft that has orbited Saturn for the last 13 years would weigh 4,685 pounds on Earth and, at 22 feet high, is somewhat longer and wider than a small moving van tipped on its rear. Bristling with cameras, antennas and other sensors, it is one of the most complex and sophisticated spy robots ever set loose in interplanetary space.

    Today, Cassini ends its long journey by dropping into the atmosphere of Saturn, where it will burn up (to prevent contamination).

    The statistics are remarkable:

    NASA, not shy about sharing its accomplishments, recently released a blizzard of numbers summarizing the mission: 4.9 billion miles travelled, 294 orbits of Saturn completed, 2.5 million commands executed, 635 gigabytes of science data collected, 453,048 images taken, 3,948 science papers published, 27 nations participating and two oceans discovered.

    It is extraordinary what people can accomplish, working together.

  47. Still talking about Law, he will be pleased. Carry on.

  48. John Comnenus

    Andrew Hastie should confront Benjamin Law and invite him to try and hate f#ck him whilst he is there.

    If Hastie did this Bennie would be shitting his pants rather than unzipping them.

    I would pay to see Hastie defend himself if Bennie was stupid enough to try and force himself on Hastie.

  49. notafan

    And we know damn well that Australian victims in government run institutions also received much lower amounts.

    Will some exceptions, few experienced the level of abuse copped by the girls of Rotherham.


    Remember how the Catholic Church in Victoria paid out compensation to anyone who claimed to be a victim, no questions asked? Compare and contrast.

  50. Geriatric Mayfly

    It is extraordinary what people can accomplish, working together.

    And endeavouring to continue the profound inclination in Western culture toward curiosity and then asking the question “Why is it so?” Then, of course, searching for the answers.

  51. I had two interesting likes to a tweet yesterday. Just goes to show that they really are trolling you lot. Sucked in, as the kids say!

  52. JC

    Christopher Columbus statue defaced in Central Park

    You support this, right monster?

  53. calli

    Nice to see Miranda Devine’s still able to be a snide c..t from hell …

    Those “fashions” that JC(?) linked to at Breitbart’s last night. This tweet from Law. The desperation to erase gender difference.

    What is it about women, normal, healthy, well adjusted women, that they fear? That they want to demystify and destroy?

    Lizzie may have some insights. It bewilders me.

  54. notafan

    Is there a reason we shouldn’t be talking about Law, Monty.

    All the confected outrage over the Stop the Fags poster, but you gaily wave away online threats to hate fuck and the media and political response to such threats, basically calling for more more more.

    You are more flexible than Gumby, Monty and your morals are non existent.

  55. JC

    Calli

    Just to be accurate. I didn’t link to the “fashions”. Rabz did. I just commented the model had a fluffy rear.

  56. Joe

    struth:

    However my point is that it will not stop it as evidence by safe schools brainwashing children as we speak, before the SSM survey, (for a survey is all it is)

    Criminalise poofterism and lesbianism and it’ll stop pretty damn quick.

    “They” wish to criminalise our normal behaviour, I don’t see any reason to not return the favour.

  57. notafan

    Trolling is it?

    Not just giving us a taste of what it’s going to be like when they are in charge.

    Just wait til lowering the age of consent to ten is back on the table, Monty.

    You are going to love it.

  58. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Andrew Hastie should confront Benjamin Law and invite him to try and hate f#ck him whilst he is there.

    Don’t get me wrong, the spectacle of Benjamin Law, with his head jammed up his ar$e, being rolled down the street like a kids hoop, would be the most likely outcome, I can imagine all the little snowflakes bleating that “violence solves nothing…”

  59. John Comnenus

    Christian marriage is an extension of the Je wish tradition that it was founded upon. That tradition was started Moses when he had his revelation on Mt Sinai. So the idea that Marriage is a not a sacred institution, at least for Christians and Je ws is ridiculous. The author is right to say that Christianity didn’t found marriage, but it was founded in the common cannonical law that stems from the Ten Commandments and the granting of the law.

    Surely there should be some minimal requirement to be accurate in presenting public information about the upcoming postal ballot.

  60. Baldrick

    Is there a reason we shouldn’t be talking about Law, Monty.
    All the confected outrage over the Stop the Fags poster, but you gaily wave away online threats to hate fuck and the media and political response to such threats, basically calling for more more more.

    No, no, nota. m0nty said there were hundreds of Stop the Fags posters around Melbourne, when it actually turned out to be fake news.

  61. JC

    More architecture porn. Get a load of the price for the penthouse – a cool US$58 million.

    http://cetraruddy.com/project/443-greenwich

  62. Tom

    Hahaha. Fisky is right. I just saw some bug-eyed talking head from the Cato Institute on the Tucker Carlson Show arguing — to the point where his head was about to explode — for criminal illegal immigrants and sanctuary cities.

  63. Is there a reason we shouldn’t be talking about Law, Monty.

    Because that’s exactly what he wanted all along?

    But hey, play his game if you want. He will enjoy it more than you will, though.

  64. Zatara

    Amazon and Walmart slash the price of Hillary’s new book 40% before it is even released!

    However, ‘What Happened’ is reportedly #1 on Amazon sales….. also before it is even released. A claim which sounds about as accurate as her campaign polling.

    The tome is apparently most remarkable for the range and number of other people she managed to blame for her failed campaign within. Every word of which Hillary claims to have pecked out on her trusty typewriter. No more electronic devices for this gurl!

  65. Fergus

    Rock spiders, being rock spiders, ooze themselves into places where they can access children. Some even breed their own victims.
    So what’s a workable, real deterrent (not just a collection of words that mean nothing really changes) seeing as our laws say they have to live? And what punishment for those who know but take no action?

    https://theconversation.com/protecting-children-from-abuse-in-organisations-needs-leadership-and-cultural-change-83502

  66. stackja

    struth
    #2496262, posted on September 13, 2017 at 9:56 am

    ‘Father’ Stalin. ‘Mother’ CPSU.

  67. No Baldrick, I reported that one gay person said that to me. I never vouched for the rumour’s veracity.

  68. Eyrie

    Best bit of the movie “Starship Troopers” was at the beginning where the girl in the high school class says
    “My mother says violence never solves anything”
    Teacher “why don’t you ask the people of Carthage about that?”
    Girl “I can’t because they are all dead”
    Teacher “Exactly”

    Was about the only bit straight out of the book.

  69. Eyrie

    Best comment about Felonia von Pantsuit’s book was ” the only book where the question and answer are on the cover”.

  70. thefrolickingmole

    m0nty
    #2496281, posted on September 13, 2017 at 10:17 am
    Still talking about Law, he will be pleased. Carry on.

    Monty releasing a “dont judge my side by one of its members statements” squirrel.

    Monty, you are on the side of 68 genders, jailing of those who disagree and teaching kids a lifestyle/sexuality of about 2% of the population isnt just to be ignored (as most peoples are) but MUST be celebrated and promoted.

    Year zero heros, where the hard won lessons of what makes a society successful must be kicked away because “Muh Feells” and the the fad of the day.
    https://www.poetryloverspage.com/poets/kipling/city_of_brass.html

    Swiftly these pulled down the walls that their fathers had made them –
    The impregnable ramparts of old, they razed and relaid them
    As playgrounds of pleasure and leisure, with limitless entries,
    And havens of rest for the wastrels where once walked the sentries;
    And because there was need of more pay for the shouters and marchers,
    They disbanded in face of their foemen their yeomen and archers.
    They replied to their well-wishers’ fears – to their enemies laughter,
    Saying: “Peace! We have fashioned a God Which shall save us hereafter.
    We ascribe all dominion to man in his factions conferring,
    And have given to numbers the Name of the Wisdom unerring.”

    They said: “Who has hate in his soul? Who has envied his neighbour?
    Let him arise and control both that man and his labour.”
    They said: “Who is eaten by sloth? Whose unthrift has destroyed him?
    He shall levy a tribute from all because none have employed him.”
    They said: “Who hath toiled, who hath striven, and gathered possession?
    Let him be spoiled. He hath given full proof of transgression.”
    They said: “Who is irked by the Law? Though we may not remove it.
    If he lend us his aid in this raid, we will set him above it!
    So the robber did judgment again upon such as displeased him,
    The slayer, too, boasted his slain, and the judges released him.

  71. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    NATIONAL BREAKING NEWS
    Vic arrest after guns for sale on Facebook

    Australian Associated Press
    6:59AM September 13, 2017

    Victoria Police have seized several prohibited weapons that were allegedly being sold through Facebook.

    Officers executed a warrant on a Narre Warren home on Tuesday night after being alerted to the online selling.

    A 39-year-old Cranbourne man is expected to be charged with possessing and dealing in prohibited and controlled weapons.

    Breaking news, from the Oz. You know how I keep asking about peak stupidity? I think we’re there.

  72. notafan

    You are an idiot Monty.

    As if narcissist homosexuals don’t always want to be the centre of attention.

    The fact that he is pushing the safe schools barrow as well is irrelevant.

    In other words social conservatives who oppose safe schools should shut up because giving attention.

    Now go fill in your gay colouring in book.

  73. stackja

    Fergus
    #2496304, posted on September 13, 2017 at 10:34 am

    Matthew 18:6

  74. JC

    New D’rat dis-qualifier for the judiciary.
    Are you now or have you ever been an ‘orthodox Catholic’?

    “Why is it that so many of us on this side have this very uncomfortable feeling that—you know, dogma and law are two different things. And I think whatever a religion is, it has its own dogma. The law is totally different. And I think in your case, professor, when you read your speeches, the conclusion one draws is that the dogma lives loudly within you, and that’s of concern when you come to big issues that large numbers of people have fought for years in this country.”

    Thus did California Sen. Dianne Feinstein pronounce on Wednesday that, by virtue of being a faithful Catholic, Amy Barrett, a respected law professor at Notre Dame, may have excluded herself from a federal judgeship. President Trump has nominated Ms. Barrett for the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals. But the Democratic obsession with Ms. Barrett’s religion transformed what should have been a routine Senate confirmation hearing into a tour of the mind of the modern secular left.

    The ugly implication of Mrs. Feinstein’s words is underscored by the context. She deployed them to suggest Ms. Barrett’s faith would lead her to substitute her personal beliefs for the law, basing the accusation primarily on a law review article Ms. Barrett wrote in 1998 as a law clerk.
    Opinion Journal: Democrats’ Anti-Catholic Bias
    Main Street Columnist Bill McGurn on Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s questioning of a Trump judicial nominee. Photo Credit: Getty Images.

    Ms. Barrett and her co-author explicitly reached the opposite conclusion: “Judges cannot—nor should they try to—align our legal system with the Church’s moral teaching whenever the two diverge.”

    The question addressed by the law review article was what Catholic judges ought to do when they conclude they cannot in good conscience apply the law as written because it clashes with their own moral views. If she was rattled by the question, Sen. Feinstein ought to have been reassured by the answer Ms. Barrett gave: They should recuse themselves.

    David Rivkin, a constitutional litigator, says “the tenor of questions by Democrat Senators seemed designed more to challenge the ideas of Catholic orthodoxy—a subject more fitting for a theological debate than a Senate hearing.”

    Proving Mr. Rivkin’s point. Sen. Dick Durbin jumped in to demand of Ms. Barrett: “Do you consider yourself an orthodox Catholic?” Does Mr. Durbin understand that he sounds like the Southern Baptist ministers in 1960 who thought Jack Kennedy shouldn’t be President because he’d take orders from the pope?

    This questioning is part of a broader effort on the left to disqualify people with strong religious views from the public square. Ms. Feinstein’s smear about Ms. Barrett’s “dogma” dovetails with the left-wing Southern Poverty Law Center’s effort to label any outfit that doesn’t go along with its agenda a “hate group.”

    Sen. Al Franken, the great legal philosopher, wrapped it all up nicely by accusing Ms. Barrett of having appeared before a “hate” group. He was referring to the Alliance Defending Freedom, a religious liberty outfit that the Southern Poverty Law Center designated a hate group because it adheres to traditional views about human sexuality and marriage.

    As for judges imposing dogma over the law, it’s worth noting that not all dogmas are religious. Democratic interest groups are explicit in demanding that Democratic judicial nominees be committed to overturning Citizens United’s defense of free speech while brooking no modification in Roe v. Wade.

    Let’s hope the Senate rejects the bigotry that marred Wednesday’s hearing and approves the eminently qualified Ms. Barrett for the Seventh Circuit. The federal bench could use more judges who understand their civic duty as well as Ms. Barrett does.

    Hey, at least it’s out in the open.

    WSJ

  75. Mother Lode

    No wonder these poor people so often kill themselves, being a woman isn’t about tangled curls, lipstick and high heels.

    Very neatly put.

    Understanding gender (to the extent to which anyone ever had to actually understand it – rather than just live it) used to be grounded in an objective reality.

    The objective reality of the genitals you were furnished with.

    Straight people were ones who wanted to do the nasty with people with the opposite set.

    Gay men were those with ‘outties’ who wanted to do things…unspeakable things…to other people with ‘outties’.

    Lesbians were people with ‘innies’ who wanted to do things with people with ‘innies’.

    But gay men had no doubt they were men, or lesbians that they were women.

    Trannies were clearly in a mess because they factually had outties but thought they should have had an innie. But really, what does that conviction exist in? Isn’t it really an explanation they accept to explain other disquiets in their minds. They had never experienced being women, so they could not actually insist that their impulses match those women have. Just an image.

    Sounds like a mental affliction to me.

    Gender has been completely unmoored. There is nothing right or wrong. If you think it you are it. The whole alphabet of preferences are on the same level as the heterosexuality which has maintained all species since the Palaeozoic.

    The reason there are so many of these things is because no objective reality is accepted. It is all in the mind, and only limited by the human capacity to imagine options.

  76. notafan

    Electricity Bill on Facebook blaming the LNP for higher electricity costs.

    Average NSW household up $935 per annum.

    Take that Trumble.

  77. notafan

    You are right Mother Lode,. They have an image and they think a veneer gives them the full package.

    It is so obviously a sad delusion but once again the Emperor has new clothes.

  78. m0nty
    #2496285, posted on September 13, 2017 at 10:21 am
    I had two interesting likes to a tweet yesterday. Just goes to show that they really are trolling you lot. Sucked in, as the kids say!

    Paul Montgomery’s tweet supporting Benjamin Law is an excellent example of Victor Davis Hanson’s latest sage advice.
    Hanson’s thesis is that It is not healthy for a society to live two lives that are antithetical.
    M0nty exemplifies the politically correct, abstract and theoretical view of the elites. Those who are being trolled by M0nty and his fellow travellers accept that The other truth is empirical, hushed and accepted informally by ordinary people from what they see and hear on the ground.

    Unless governments can resolve this clash, ordinary people will.

  79. stackja

    Mother Lode
    #2496316, posted on September 13, 2017 at 10:42 am
    It is all in the mind, and only limited by the human capacity to imagine options.

    Forbidden Planet
    From Wikipedia
    Later, while Adams tries to persuade Altaira to leave, Ostrow sneaks away to use the Krell educator. With his dying breath, Ostrow explains to Adams that the underground machine was built to materialize anything the Krell could imagine; creation without instrumentality. He says that the Krell forgot one thing: “Monsters from the Id“. The mysterious extinction of the Krell was in fact caused by their own base subconscious, given free reign and unlimited power by the machine. Adams asserts that Morbius’ subconscious mind created the creature that killed the members of the original expedition and attacked his crew; Morbius refuses to accept this accusation.

  80. Rabz;

    What’s the bet that somehow, taxpayers are actually footing the bill for this latest greenfilth lawfare against civilisation?

    Remember that the Greenpeace Movement actually published their plans for all this lawfare with the express purpose of shutting down industry in Australia, at the start of last year?
    And people laughed?

  81. notafan

    Two likes for Monty.

    Is that a record?

  82. Boambee John

    m0nty
    #2496281, posted on September 13, 2017 at 10:17 am
    Still talking about Law, he will be pleased. Carry on.

    Even by your low standards, this is a pathetic comment.

    Still, nice to know that Law follows the Cat.

  83. Tom

    Gender has been completely unmoored.

    Only on the lunatic fringe, Mother Lode. The unhinged left’s control of 80% of the news media deludes their little echo chamber that the silent majority are embracing their anti-family propaganda and their immoral Marxist nihilism.

  84. Boambee John

    Between m0nty’s earlier comments on Law’s “slim hips” and now telling us he knows what Law is thinking, it seems that m0nty’s homo-erotic fascination with Law continues.

  85. Electricity Bill on Facebook blaming the LNP for higher electricity costs.

    Average NSW household up $935 per annum.

    Take that Trumble.

    Never underestimate Wile E. Trumbles talent for finding and standing in the dogshit.

    Someone is gonna politically pay for the expensive and failing electricity grid.
    Shorten’s strategy of “Id wuz dem!” will probably work.

  86. stackja

    incoherent rambler
    #2496331, posted on September 13, 2017 at 10:56 am
    Electricity Bill on Facebook blaming the LNP for higher electricity costs.

    Average NSW household up $935 per annum.

    Take that Trumble.

    Never underestimate Wile E. Trumbles talent for finding and standing in the dogshit.

    Someone is gonna politically pay for the expensive and failing electricity grid.
    Shorten’s strategy of “Id wuz dem!” will probably work.

    RGR forgotten?

  87. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Hahaha. Fisky is right. I just saw some bug-eyed talking head from the Cato Institute on the Tucker Carlson Show arguing — to the point where his head was about to explode — for criminal illegal immigrants and sanctuary cities.

    Cato are far left storm troopers. Almost as bad as Reason.

  88. nota, when he talks about an issue like Safe Schools, engaging on the issue is a part of normal public discourse. But banging on and on about a throwaway tweet for days on end just gives him what he wants, and makes you lot look petty.

  89. Remember Monty ran this same argument about ISIS, that doing anything to thwart their reign of terror was exactly what they wanted.

  90. RGR forgotten?

    Who?

    Besides Willy doesn’t talk about the past only the fewdcha.

  91. H B Bear

    While the only difference between the Lieborals and the Liars is an RET of 50% versus 42%, Lord Waffleworth has no choice but to bend over and hold his ankles.

    Will Lord Waffleworth lose his crown a second time over windmills?

  92. Hey db, why aren’t you on the TV shows arguing for No? Everyone is sick of Lyle Shelton. It seems no one else wants to argue for No. He is a poor surrogate.

  93. H B Bear

    Shorter mUnty – Marxist trannies in primary schools is “normal public discourse”

  94. C.L.

    Still talking about Law, he will be pleased. Carry on.

    Monty is still talking about Wussians and racist trucks.
    How’s that working out for you, Mont? Has it un-lost the presidential election?

  95. Joe

    IR:

    Shorten’s strategy of “Id wuz dem!” will probably work.

    He would be right.
    Whilst Labor brought in the offending legislation, it was the Liberals who refused to outright abolish it. Their replacement vehicle of the RET, by that SA creep, is the cause of our current issues.

    The Liberals are toast because they failed to stand up for the rest of us. We are toast because Labor will win office and royally stuff us up. They’ve done a good enough job of it from out of government already.

  96. The Deplorable Barking Toad

    And so the colours are shown……from the Oz

    ‘Hate-speech’ laws push

    Same-sex marriage advocates have seized on anti-vilification laws set to pass the Senate today which are designed to provide protections during the government’s postal survey, arguing that such laws should be permanent rather than only applying for a couple of months during the campaign.

    Spokesman for just.equal, Brian Greig said the need for hate speech laws during the same-sex marriage survey drew attention to the fact that there are no commonwealth hate speech laws for LGBTI people.

    “Federally we have permanent, national anti-hate speech laws for race and religion only, yet clearly there is a need for permanent laws to include sexuality and gender identity” Mr Greig said.

    Mr Greig said permanent hate speech laws to protect LGBTI people at a state level exist only in NSW, Queensland, Tasmania and the ACT.

    “Western Australia, South Australia, Victoria and the Northern Territory have no state-based laws to prevent or prosecute vilification on the grounds of sexuality or gender identity.

    “This means LGBTI people in these states are especially vulnerable to hate speech and look to the Commonwealth for national laws to address this.”

  97. Boambee John

    m0nty at 1059

    But banging on and on about a throwaway tweet for days on end just gives him what he wants, and makes you lot look petty.

    Banging on and on about a bit of street theatre for days on end and taking him to court over it just gives Cottrell what he wants, and makes you look petty.

    Fixed that for you.

  98. C.L.

    Behold!
    The courageous courage of corporate Australia:

    ‘I get into a lot of trouble for this’: Big business leaders come out in support of same-sex marriage.

    Andy Vesey … on Monday night addressed a function for LGBTI staff at Parliament House, twice declaring it the highlight of his high-profile day in Canberra. He said “inclusion for all” was central to the electricity provider’s ethos.

    “We want to remind people of those values. We want all our people to feel welcome … we want all our people to bring everything they have [to work] and not to have fear,” Mr Vesey said.

    “But I will tell you something else – and I get into a lot of trouble for this – I am telling you that personally I am supportive, that personally I will stand up, personally I will put my name on this.

    Homosexuality is central to supplying electricity?

  99. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Lizzie may have some insights. It bewilders me.

    On the fashion things, Calli – I think it is just jealousy and a sort of hatred of real female genitals by gay male designers (at the level of ‘hairy mussel’ which we’ve come across before). Those pink puff velvet vulvas were most unpleasant, just a send-up imho, although taken very seriously by those who were hoaxed.

    Other than that, Mother Load puts it well; ‘gender has become completely unmoored’ from anything real about sexuality and the human reproductive organs. Imagination is ‘real’ and runs riot.

  100. JC

    Homosexuality is central to supplying electricity?

    Yes, it called electrical inclusion.

  101. C.L.

    Holy Toledo:

    Rebel Wilson awarded $4.5m for defamatory magazine articles

    Bauer Media is ordered to pay Rebel Wilson more than $4.5 million for defaming her in a series of magazine stories, with a judge saying the publisher knew the articles were defamatory but “did not care”.

  102. Dear Dr. Stimpy,

    There is icky gooey stuff all over my SSM ballot paer.
    What should I do?

    from worried.

  103. BJ, good to see you’re coming around to supporting my theory that everyone is on the troll spectrum.

  104. Boambee John:
    I wonder if a web site could be set up re-stating all the left’s speeches, tweets, Hansard quotes, newspaper opinion pieces etc etc…except, copying your example, change the names or dates to change the narrative.

    Then sit back and watch the left explode with rage at the hate speech contained on the web site.

    My first suggestions would be to quote Gillard and Wong as they oppose SSM.

  105. C.L.

    This has big repercussions for trash mags:

    In awarding the damages, Supreme Court Justice John Dixon described the extent of the defamation as “unprecedented in this country” because of the articles’ global reach.

    “At trial and in the full media glare, Bauer Media tried to characterise its article as true, or as trivial, or as not likely to be taken seriously,” he said.

    “Substantial vindication can only be achieved by an award of damages that underscores that Ms Wilson’s reputation as an actress of integrity was wrongly damaged in a manner that affected her marketability in a huge worldwide marketplace.”

    […]

    Justice Dixon strongly criticised Bauer Media for failing to properly investigate the claims about Wilson, and for publishing them despite knowing they were false.

    Good on her, I say.

  106. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Homosexuality is central to supplying electricity?

    I’ve never seen a successful power supply set up that didn’t have male and female plugs.

    No wonder we are having constant brown outs,

  107. C.L.

    It is the largest defamation payout in Australian history.

  108. male and female plugs.

    Correction – “male plugs” and “female sockets”

  109. stackja

    The Deplorable Barking Toad
    #2496343, posted on September 13, 2017 at 11:09 am

    Left can vilify without any worries.

  110. m0nty
    #2496338, posted on September 13, 2017 at 11:05 am
    Hey db, why aren’t you on the TV shows arguing for No?

    Brilliant idea.
    But it will never happen – db is too erudite to be let loose on the public. The MSM will never allow it.

  111. stackja

    It is the largest defamation payout in Australian history.
    incoherent rambler
    #2496356, posted on September 13, 2017 at 11:21 am
    male and female plugs.

    Correction – “male plugs” and “female sockets”

    Power points and pins.

  112. Peter Castieau

    At around 10.30EST this morning Senator Bernadi spoke about the bill being proposed to stop peoples feelings being hurt around the postal survey.

    It was fantsatic particularly given gay Senators Wong and Pratt were virtually in tears earlier carrying on about how tough it is to be gay.

    Go to aph.gov.au and go to Parlview to find the footage

  113. Mother Lode

    Homosexuality is central to supplying electricity?

    It is one of the most brazen examples of heteronormativity that electrical connectors are described as ‘male’ and ‘female’, and that the only arrangement which ‘works’ is where the male ‘plug’ is inserted females ‘socket’.

    ELECTRICAL CONNECTOR JUSTICE NOW!

  114. cynical1

    Last night on The Dumb David Marr implied Benjamin Law was on the lunatic fringe of the ssm movement.

    Tonight he’s “in conversation” with him at the Seymour Centre.

    And in bed with him,after.

    Can we hate bash them?

    Well, in a humorous way, of course.

  115. C.L.

    The world’s first pedoph1le government continues its creepy obsession with children:

    Victoria to let schoolgirls ditch dresses and wear shorts.

    Victoria’s public schools will have to allow female students to wear shorts or pants instead of dresses and skirts, and some parents say Catholic and independent schools should be forced to follow suit.

    See what they did there?

  116. Snoopy

    m0nty
    #2496281, posted on September 13, 2017 at 10:17 am
    Still talking about Law, he will be pleased. Carry on.

    That Benjamin Law’s “hate fcuk” tweet is such a triumph for the Yes case must be reason that there is absolutely no mention of it anywhere on the ABC website.

  117. Justice Dixon strongly criticised Bauer Media for failing to properly investigate the claims about Wilson, and for publishing them despite knowing they were false.

    Bec Hewitt might see this as a significant precedent.

  118. C.L.

    Coverage of the Law tweet storm was banned at the ABC and Fairfax.
    See, it’s OK for homosexuals to call for male and female MPs to be raped because Trump said “pussy.”
    Something like that. Plus Abbott.

  119. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Justice Dixon strongly criticised Bauer Media for failing to properly investigate the claims about Wilson, and for publishing them despite knowing they were false.

    Good on her, I say.

    It will be interesting – she’s already promised to give away any damages she receives.

  120. You know, at some stage the usage of ‘male’ and ‘female’ to describe electrical and other types of hardware is going to come under attack. You heard it here first.

  121. lotocoti

    Homosexuality is central to supplying electricity?

    Only if you embrace sex changers.

  122. Interesting data visualisation of SSM support.

    Conclusion: SSM support cuts across partisan lines, and is a lot more about geography. Basically, all things being equal, rural Queensland and NSW will vote no but everywhere else will vote yes.

  123. Baldrick

    m0nty
    #2496307, posted on September 13, 2017 at 10:35 am
    No Baldrick, I reported that one gay person said that to me. I never vouched for the rumour’s veracity.

    Let’s go to the tape shall we:

    m0nty
    #2476416, posted on August 22, 2017 at 3:26 pm
    Hey CL, I hear actual Nazis are behind the No campaign. That’s what I was told last night by a gay friend we had over for dinner. They had to take down hundreds of those terrible posters, she told me. Some mob called 369 Designs, something like that, run by a bloke with an Eastern European name. I suppose you’re all over these developments, any thoughts?

    Sure m0nst, you were just quoting fake news.

  124. Boambee John

    I can understand m0nty being entirely cool with Law advocating the use of “hate f*cks” to advance the Marxist gender agenda.

    After all, m0nty seems equally cool with the use of common assault, assault with a deadly weapon, grievous bodily harm and even murder to advance the Marxist political agenda. Using violent sex to advance the Marxist gender agenda is no different.

  125. Master of Peace and Conflict Studies (MPaCS)
    Students will gain an advanced understanding of how conflicts emerge and how they can be managed and solved in a nonviolent manner. Topics covered span from the local to the global and include issues such as peacebuilding, conflict resolution and prevention, mediation, nonviolence, gender and security as well as peace and development.

    I don’t need no stinkin’ Master of Peace and Conflict Studies.

    Conflicts emerge because some people are crunts.

    Where’s my 80 grand for teaching all one needs to know about how conflicts emerge?

  126. Snoopy

    We should be thankful that Monty aspires to SSM for his sprogs. The human gene pool will be better for it.

  127. ZK2A;

    From the Oz? At six years old? Why do I have the nasty suspicion that his parents are playing “Look at Moi! Look at Moi!”

    It’s Muchausens by Proxy.
    A mental illness on the behalf of the parent. (Note that generally it’s the singular.)

  128. Sure m0nst, you were just quoting fake news.

    Yes Baldrick, I never vouched for the accuracy of the rumour, as I said. Thanks for confirming it.

  129. Boambee John

    m0nty
    #2496351, posted on September 13, 2017 at 11:18 am
    BJ, good to see you’re coming around to my theory that everyone is on the troll spectrum.

    Your theory could do with some evidence that does not involve wacky leftists (I include nazis and fascists in that group).

  130. Baldrick

    Interesting data visualisation of SSM support.

    Fake news m0nst. The Northern Territory and outback W.A. is not awash with nancy boys chaffing at the bit for homo-hoedowns.

  131. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I don’t need no stinkin’ Master of Peace and Conflict Studies.

    I hold a Master of Peace and Conflict Studies, and if anyone disagrees with me, I’ll rip their fvcking arms off.

  132. cynical1

    Let’s face it, if you think that two people of the same sex can marry, you are insane.

    And in that lies the proof of what indoctrination can achieve.

    Many are the same people who believe that we can power the modern world on wind power.

    Don Queerote and his homo windmills.

    Good name for a pooves band.

    Well, Queen is taken.

  133. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    It’s Muchausens by Proxy.
    A mental illness on the behalf of the parent. (Note that generally it’s the singular.)

    Thanks for that, Winston, I was wondering what the name of the condition was.

  134. Chris

    The Northern Territory and outback W.A. is not awash with nancy boys chaffing at the bit for homo-hoedowns.

    This is just an example of ABC’s penetration and reach in country areas.

  135. Myrddin Seren

    “But I will tell you something else – and I get into a lot of trouble for this – I am telling you that personally I am supportive, that personally I will stand up, personally I will put my name on this.

    I will be the one to call ‘bullshit’ on this one.

    In trouble from who ?

    He’s the CEO and surrounded by a green-left cheer squad. They are only telling him what a great job he is doing.

    The Board ? Any board member who raised this would be asking for a ‘Don’t Come Monday’ in this atmosphere. ( And prior to this, when has it been raised as a corporate issue with AGL anyway ? )

    At home ? Get ready for a d.i.v.o.r.c.e. if it is the missus. And just another looming family break apart if it is cousins, aunts or whatever.

    It is starting to look like a lot of Australian CEOs may be about to come out of the closet and follow their hearts’ true desires. The QANTAS guy excepted for obvious reasons.

    And this:

    Andy Vesey … on Monday night addressed a function for LGBTI staff at Parliament House, twice declaring it the highlight of his high-profile day in Canberra.

    F**king great he has got his priorities right. The country is standing on the edge of an energy crisis that will rapidly turn in to an economic crisis and his biggest priority is buttering up* the Parliamentary Identity Group de Jour.

    At least he didn’t say “Let them eat cake !”

    * Take that any way you want.

  136. Sparkx

    The fifth commandment says honour your father and mother, not father and father, or mother and mother.

  137. Zyconoclast

    Listening to the Senate, you know that the proposed SSM anti-vilification (read anti free speech) is dodgy when Pauline Hanson is more articulate than Corman.

  138. H B Bear

    This is just an example of ABC’s penetration and reach in country areas.

    I see what you did there.

  139. stackja

    Sparkx
    #2496389, posted on September 13, 2017 at 11:50 am
    The fifth commandment says honour your father and mother, not father and father, or mother and mother.

    Leftist new commandment. Shut up!

  140. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    LEGAL AFFAIRS
    Lionel Murphy’s papers go public

    Stephen Walmsley
    The Australian
    12:00AM September 13, 2017
    1

    Lionel Murphy served as attorney-general in both Whitlam governments. He was appointed to the High Court in February 1975, nine months before Gough Whitlam’s dismissal by governor-general John Kerr. He served on the High Court until his death in ­October 1986.

    In 1984, publication of The Age tapes cast doubt on Murphy’s fitness to be a judge. There were then two Senate inquiries into the tapes and other allegations their revelation produced.

    After the second inquiry, Murphy was charged with attempting to pervert the course of justice. There were two charges. In the first it was said he had tried to influence NSW chief magistrate Clarrie Briese to help get Murphy’s friend Morgan Ryan discharged from serious criminal charges.

    The second concerned a later attempt to influence Ryan’s trial judge, Paul Flannery QC, so he would take the charges away from the jury. It was never suggested Ryan knew what Murphy was trying to do for him.

    At his first trial, in 1985, Murphy was acquitted of the Flannery charge but convicted on the Briese charge. He was sentenced to eighteen months’ imprisonment, with a minimum of 10 months to be served.

    On his appeal, the conviction was set aside and he was granted a new trial. At his second trial, in April 1986, he was acquitted also of the Briese charge.

    Murphy did not sit to hear new cases after being charged. But after his acquittal he got ready to return to judicial duties.

    However, Murphy’s jurors had hardly got home after their not guilty verdict when the opposition Liberal-National Party Coalition questioned the appropriateness of his return to judicial duties.

    A report of the Stewart royal commission had been held back from release until the end of April 1986 so Murphy’s trials would not be prejudiced. There was a secret volume not released to the press that made a number of new allegations of misconduct against Murphy, quite independent of the charges on which he had recently been acquitted.

    From the Oz. Barring any last minute legal shenanigans, they should be published on the Senate website tomorrow.

  141. Senile Old Guy

    Fake news m0nst. The Northern Territory and outback W.A. is not awash with nancy boys chaffing at the bit for homo-hoedowns.

    Sure?

    The Tiwi Island Sistagirls say the upcoming same-sex marriage postal vote could be a waste of time in their community because people there are not familiar with the process. “I think it’s rubbish really, they’re just wasting their time,” said Sistagirl Shaun Kerinaiua. “Most of our people don’t speak English, it’s our second language and that goes for all Aboriginal people in Australia.” The Sistagirls are a group of transgender women from the Tiwi Islands.

  142. That Wong chap has implied in the Senate what is hate speech:
    “I didn’t want to read John Howard on the front page of The Australian on the weekend, saying again what sorts of families were optimal, what sorts of families were good and why my family is not,” she said.

    Setting a very low bar for the judging of hate. That and she supports that wimp Cormann.

    The fix is in. All government and media references to the new SSM survey safeguards are tackling the hateful No campaigners.
    Not Law. Not the ACL bomber. Not the Dr Lai destroyers. Not the Coopers boycotters.

  143. mh

    There needs to be massive pushback against what the political establishment is up to in Canberra today.

    Alan Jones this morning with Mark Latham:
    Free speech under siege: Vilification and bullying by the militant left

  144. Struth:

    This is the angle that I’m coming at this from.
    SSM is a Marxist attack and it’s all been done before.
    This SSM caper is straight out of the Marxist/communist playbook of yesteryear.
    We need to look at history.
    Getting this shit out there is what may sway a few people to think past the “who cares about what gays do, let them get married” thought of most Aussies.

    When all this crap got a grip on in Russia in the 1920s, families were destroyed in huge numbers – children were abandoned and formed gangs in Moscow and other cities, at times invading and holding entire city apartment blocks for food and shelter. Underage child prostitution became endemic.
    That last item is indeed the biggest ‘tell’ for Marxist supporters.

  145. Atoms for Peace

    Monty. Are you going to home school your kids or public schooling ?

  146. Andrew

    I asked above, what sort of audience applauds the unsubstantiated claim that the natural family is the least safe place for children? Seriously, what sort of audience applauds this claim when it is uttered by a someone without substantiation and accompanied by a shit-eating grin?

    If you want to learn something about the country we have become ponder that for a moment.

    This is nothing new – the “They” in TheirABC is perverts.

  147. Rebel with cause

    You know, at some stage the usage of ‘male’ and ‘female’ to describe electrical and other types of hardware is going to come under attack.

    Was thinking about this the other day. Surprised the change hasn’t been proposed already. Guess not many sparkies and backyard tinkerers are leftists.

  148. Monty. Are you going to home school your kids or public schooling ?

    One of the wife’s non-negotiables is Catholic schooling all the way.

  149. Diogenes

    All the kewel kids are on the new thread 🙂

  150. C.L.

    “I didn’t want to read John Howard on the front page of The Australian on the weekend, saying again what sorts of families were optimal …”

    Wow.
    We see here what is going to happen if the Yesser loonies win.
    People expressing support for traditional, real families will be jailed.

  151. I hold a Master of Peace and Conflict Studies, and if anyone disagrees with me, I’ll rip their fvcking arms off.

    Master, indeed.

  152. ZK2A;

    It’s Muchausens by Proxy.

    It’s here.
    I misspelled it, but didn’t notice.

  153. Wow.
    We see here what is going to happen if the Yesser loonies win.
    People expressing support for traditional, real families will be jailed.

    This is the sort of madness that will move that 30% undecided into the No column.

  154. That Benjamin Law’s “hate fcuk” tweet is such a triumph for the Yes case must be reason that there is absolutely no mention of it anywhere on the ABC website.

    Call me Nostradamus if you wish, but I’ve a feeling our Mr. Law won’t attempt to carry out his threat upon Mr. Hastie.
    If perchance he finds himself in Mr. Hastie’s proximity, he’ll be most cautious to say or do nothing that may indicate he’s about to “try it on” with Mr. Hastie.

    Just a hunch.

  155. Boambee John

    OSC at 1119

    My first suggestions would be to quote Gillard and Wong as they oppose SSM.

    It is an indication of how weak our pollies on the No side are that these words have not been read back into Hansard during the current debate/debacle.

  156. Mother Lode

    Was thinking about this the other day. Surprised the change hasn’t been proposed already. Guess not many sparkies and backyard tinkerers are leftists.

    What has it got to do with them?

    There are armies of bureaucrats and their craven captive politicians who can make all our decisions for us!

    They know best about everything!

  157. notafan

    Who was it that popped up a couple of nights ago to compliment Monty on how very very smart he was?

    Monty, you represented that story about Stop the Fags as factual, with a bit of gratuitous defamation of a local design company thrown in.

    And you call yourself a journalist.

    Was it fail to investigate, and/or publish even though you knew it was fake?

  158. test pattern

    ‘Final Report the Australian Constitutional Commission’ 1988 – S51:(26) for Non Citizens (Aboriginal)

    ‘The Final Report the Australian Constitutional Commission written in 1988 shows that the concept of Constitutional Reform and how it could be achieved is was decided on in 1988. The Constitutional Reform pathways are not inventions of Corporate Blacks of today….Constitutional Reform was endorsed at Uluru without a request for Rights to be enshrined.’

    https://www.facebook.com/notes/vote-no-to-constitutional-change/final-report-the-australian-constitutional-commission-1988-s5126-for-non-citizen/1570168346386970/

  159. test pattern

    ‘Peace and Conflict Studies’

    irenology

  160. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    The Beer Whisperer at 11:35 am made me smile:

    ” Master of Peace and Conflict Studies (MPaCS)
    Students will gain an advanced understanding of how conflicts emerge and how they can be managed and solved …”

    We went to a course conducted by blokes who were qualified in that manner back in the mid ’60s – my best china’s older brothers and their mates, most of them graded with Newtown Bluebags. I imagine in these days they’d be Cert II or III in Keeping Order. Their method was simple, direct and quite easy to pick up in those more civilised days.

    As an example I recall wandering along Redfern Station on the way home from a mid week Amco Cup match with my mate (we were about 15 years old and only recently enrolled in Becoming Independently Able) with his next oldest brother (at about 19) ambling along perhaps 30 yards behind. Half a dozen older blokes had something to say to my mate about his glasses as we passed them, they wanted to go on with it, we were not sure what to say or do but then our tutor caught up and offered an unscheduled practical.

    “Which one of you plicks wants to go first? Eh? Alright, you’re the biggest, you’ll do.” Thump! Thud! “Who’s next?”

    Emergent conflict evaluated, opening address kept to a minimum, purpose made clear without equivocation, brevity employed without complex explanation, proportionate response, peace inflicted, don’t hang around to admire your good work.

    It’s a bit hard to understand how a matter as simple as this can become the subject of a Masters! – not at all like the sheer terror experienced trying to keep up with Dr Pat Apps’ pure maths series just a few years later at the University across the way there.

  161. Andrew

    So mOron is proud that he got likes from left wing extremists that he was grovelling to and addressed the grovelling tweets to? Wow, massive achievement.

    Do you think it’s appropriate for YAM (pbuh) to build a career trolling the right while not only being employed by the taxpayer in a nominally centre-right govt but actually engaged by the Dept of Foreign Affairs to REPRESENT said govt? (Hint: Since you have no moral compass and judge issues like sexual violence solely by the SIDE of the victim, it may be easier if you picture Bolt666 taking a job at DFAT in a Green-ALP coalition govt and then going the full Breitbart.)

  162. pete m

    so m0nty’s wife is likely against ssm

    is she in favour of trannies in girls’ toilets and changerooms too, or is that just you m0nty?

  163. rickw

    so m0nty’s wife is likely against ssm

    is she in favour of trannies in girls’ toilets and changerooms too, or is that just you m0nty?

    Munty’s missus is clearly the brains of the household.

  164. Stimpson J. Cat

    Let’s face it, if you think that two people of the same sex can marry, you are insane.

    No, NOT f$cking insane.
    I am tired of excuses from alleged Conservatives who have conserved nothing.
    The vast majority of them are monumental effigies to their own monumental f$cking failure.
    These people were TAUGHT.
    Not only that, they were ALLOWED to be taught.
    Who sat back and allowed it?
    For years and years and f$cking years?
    Who sat back and watched their children grow into these….creatures of muppetry, who then spread their wonderful ideas to more children?

  165. Stimpson J. Cat

    Dear Dr. Stimpy,
    There is icky gooey stuff all over my SSM ballot paer.
    What should I do?
    from worried.

    Sticky tape the envelope, DO NOT LICK.

  166. Is my computer going crazy?
    All comments between #2496611, posted on September 13, 2017 at 3:35 pm and #2496903, posted on September 13, 2017 at 8:42 pm have disappeared.

    Just wanted to say WOW – there are hundreds of ‘likes” on the many comments supporting Israel Folau at the Oz’s article. More than I’ve seen before.

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