Wednesday Forum: September 13, 2017

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  1. pete m

    i hope new idea etc stop making up stories …

    i guess they will regarding rebel wilson!

  2. Kel

    Apologies for repetition. The comments seemed to be rejected each time and didn’t appear to be going through. Enjoy your day.

  3. Damienski

    Fifth (poster) on ye Newe Threade

  4. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    i guess they will regarding rebel wilson!

    I’ve never heard of Rebel Wilson – except for the fact that she is now several million dollars richer, what shows or films has she appeared in?

  5. Senile Old Guy

    Fake news m0nst. The Northern Territory and outback W.A. is not awash with nancy boys chaffing at the bit for homo-hoedowns.

    Sure?

    The Tiwi Island Sistagirls say the upcoming same-sex marriage postal vote could be a waste of time in their community because people there are not familiar with the process. “I think it’s rubbish really, they’re just wasting their time,” said Sistagirl Shaun Kerinaiua. “Most of our people don’t speak English, it’s our second language and that goes for all Aboriginal people in Australia.” The Sistagirls are a group of transgender women from the Tiwi Islands.

  6. The Deplorable Barking Toad

    top twenty

  7. C.L.

    “I didn’t want to read John Howard on the front page of The Australian on the weekend, saying again what sorts of families were optimal …”

    Wow.
    We see here what is going to happen if the Yesser loonies win.
    People expressing support for traditional, real families will be jailed.

  8. Roger

    Penny Wong wants people who express traditional family values to be fined.

  9. Roger

    The lunatic fringe is now mainstream.

  10. tOP TWENNY – I CAN LIVE WITH THAT

    Fucking caps lock

  11. mh

    Has Parliament defined hate speech yet? What about looking at your watch – can you be prosecuted for that?

  12. pete m

    mh, only if a woman is talking near you.

  13. Chris

    All the kewel kids are on the new thread 🙂

    25th?

  14. mh

    mh, only if a woman is talking near you.

    What if that woman is a lesbian? Does that make it more evil?

  15. zyconoclast

    tOP TWENNY – I CAN LIVE WITH THAT
    Fucking caps lock

    Carpe
    Do the Japanese “indigenous” people have the same problems adapting to modern society as other indigenous people around the world have or are they as high IQ/well behaved as the majority Japanese population?

  16. Chris

    Darn.
    Rebel Wilson is the Tasmanian Fat Chick in Pitch Perfect, a chick a capella ‘buddy movie’.
    She plays ‘the best singer in Tasmania – with her own teeth’.

    In Pitch Perfect 2 the premise is that her clothes burst open while hanging on a trapeze in a performance for President Obama, and everything gets out of hand.

    I enjoyed those movies in all their silliness. And Rebel Wilson does a great job.

  17. Bruce of Newcastle

    Exploding pee.

    Army scientists discover power in urine

    Scientists at the U.S. Army Research Laboratory observed an unexpected result when combining urine with a newly engineered nano-powder based on aluminum. It instantly releases hydrogen from the urine at much higher rate than with ordinary water.

    Alright Pte. Smithers, your turn. Fill your bottle, add the magic mix, count to four and throw!

  18. Crossie

    I may just hoping that all the polls saying Yes will win are wrong and it’s possible that they are not reflecting people’s real intentions. Who in their right mind would tell the thought police how they plan to vote?

  19. Sparkx

    Guess not many sparkies and backyard tinkerers are leftists.

    You got that right Rebel.

  20. Chris

    Google ‘youtube pitch perfect riff-off’ for a fun segment.

  21. Sparkx

    Has Parliament defined hate speech yet? What about looking at your watch – can you be prosecuted for that?

    And don’t you bloody well even think about winking.

  22. Pedro the Ignorant

    Hizonner Lionel Murphy’s Class A papers due out tomorrow (Thu 14th). Skeletons to be unearthed, names to be named, formerly shiny reputations tarnished.

    Not holding my breath, though.

  23. Sparkx

    I always thought that was Matt Lucas in Pitch Perfect.

  24. zyconoclast

    Rebel Wilson is the Tasmanian Fat Chick in Pitch Perfect, a chick a capella ‘buddy movie’.
    She plays ‘the best singer in Tasmania – with her own teeth’.

    They are not her teeth. I have proof.

    Original Teeth

    New Teeth

  25. Wow.
    We see here what is going to happen if the Yesser loonies win.
    People expressing support for traditional, real families will be jailed.

    This is the sort of madness that will move that 30% undecided into the No column.

  26. Chris

    And don’t you bloody well even think about winking.

    Damn straight. It might go viral.

  27. herodotus

    ABC The World Today
    A report raises concern about underground mining causing leaks from THE Sydney drinking water supply.
    Not the bath water supply, the washing up water supply, the industrial water supply or the garden watering supply. The drinking water supply.
    And it’s only Cordeaux dam. How many dams does Sydney draw on?
    Does loss of some water down a crack into a mine make the water less drinkable?
    Do we lose more that way than we lose through evaporation?
    Is this in any way an “impact on water quality”, or just another opportunity to bag mining?

  28. Brace yourselves cats. The YES vote, I expect to be overwhelming.
    If you had any doubts about how far we have fallen, those doubts will be removed.

  29. C.L.

    I find it interesting how sensitive Wong is about somebody pointing out that children deserve, should ideally have, have a right to, and do better in life with a mother and a father.
    ————-
    If you thought peak Liberal Party turd was reached long ago, note this moment.
    At a time when one of the most energy-rich countries on the planet is on the verge of blackouts for want of power-stations, the Turnbull government today pushed through “emergency” laws to jail Margaret Court.

  30. Chris

    They are not her teeth. I have proof.

    Yes, yes, but the CHARACTER was supposed to have her own teeth. Or claimed to, anyway.

  31. Boambee John

    From the old thread

    OSC at 1119

    My first suggestions would be to quote Gillard and Wong as they oppose SSM.

    It is an indication of how weak our pollies on the No side are that these words have not been read back into Hansard during the current debate/debacle.

  32. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Hizonner Lionel Murphy’s Class A papers due out tomorrow (Thu 14th). Skeletons to be unearthed, names to be named, formerly shiny reputations tarnished.

    Not holding my breath, though.

    I’m betting that the fervent hope was that, when those papers were sealed, everyone would have forgotten all about the various shenanigans when they would be released.

  33. Atoms for Peace

    Wasn’t the Abbott666 watch check a reference to time limits on the floor whilst bloviating?

  34. Boambee John

    Block quote fail, the sentence starting “my first …” belongs to OSC.

  35. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Open borders libertarians are stupidest people on earth:

    https://twitter.com/DiversityVictim/status/907697208891338753

    You can have small government or immigration, but never both.

  36. hzhousewife

    I always thought that was Matt Lucas in Pitch Perfect.

    Both in Bridesmaids? Rebel got paid US$20,000 for her five minutes in Bridesmaids, as an unkown.

  37. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Well, that’s me gone.

  38. thefrolickingmole

    C.L.

    Even more interesting is the apparent factoid the totem pole for optimal parenting types goes something like this*

    2 parent family (traditional)single dad
    2 dads
    2mums
    single dad
    Single mum.
    In care.

    We have spent 50 years or so fetishising the single mum, the worst parenting option by far, with all the pathologies it has brought us over the decades.
    Didnt we lose the “right” to judge the unsuitability of SS couples when we stopped judging the single mum demographic? (indeed rewarding it with government subsidy)

    *With the proviso the numbers for gay couples was extremely small, therefore the figures could be misleading

  39. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Tim has less than 12 hours, unless the events happen in WA:

    12-Sep-17 Nelson Kidd Players
    13-Sep-17 Tim Neilson
    30-Sep-17 Pedro the Ignorant
    1-Oct-17 Harald
    21-Oct-17 Leigh Lowe
    24-Oct-17 Robber Baron
    6-Nov-17 Squirrel
    9-Nov-17 Craig
    1-Dec-17 pete m
    4-Dec-17 stackja
    7-Dec-17 bystander
    14-Dec-17 John64
    28-Feb-18 Damienski
    6-Jun-18 Zippy the Younger
    18-Aug-18 Marcus
    18-May-19 Slayer of Memes
    23-Jun-19 Andrew
    1-Nov-19 thefrolickingmole
    2-Nov-19 Bruce of Newcastle

  40. herodotus

    Have any muslims been caught by hate speech laws to date, or is it only Christians and Andrew Bolt, plus assorted students?
    Will these new laws be used differently, or just against conservatives?

  41. Nelson Kidd-Players

    That also means our PM may reach the Potential Greatness Deadline.

    He always had one significant advantage through.

    He was less likely to get undermined by Malcolm Turnbull.

  42. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    NATIONAL AFFAIRS
    Murphy secrets due out after 30 years in the vault

    The Australian
    12:00AM September 13, 2017

    Allegations of serious misconduct against former High Court judge Lionel Murphy, scheduled to be released tomorrow after 30 years in legal limbo, are expected to shed new light on the nature of his relationship with Sydney organised crime boss Abe Saffron.

    Information from witnesses and police phone taps is expected to show whether Murphy was a repeat visitor at Saffron’s Lodge 44 headquarters in Elizabeth Bay, was a guest at his Venus Room nightclub in King’s Cross and partied at the home of Saffron’s long-term mistress Biruta Hagenfelds.

    The allegations are thought to be contained in thousands of sec­ret documents that were the basis for work by a 1986 parliamentary inquiry set up to determine Murphy’s fitness to remain a judge.

    Among 14 lines of inquiry, the inquiry commission is believed to have examined new information — following Murphy’s trial ­acquittals on related matters that year — about whether he tried to influence criminal proceedings against his close friend Sydney solicitor Morgan Ryan.

    The Murphy case was a political and legal debacle unprecedented in Australia because it involved alleged misbehaviour that threatened to unseat a judge of the highest court. The Hawke government was pressured to call the commission of inquiry when allegations emerged about Murphy’s conduct after his trial

    Details have remained secret because the inquiry was shut down — with a law imposing a 30-year ban on disclosure — after it was revealed in July 1986 that Murphy was dying of cancer.

    He died in October.

    The three retired judges appointed to the commission, Sir George Lush, Sir Richard Blackburn and Andrew Wells, and their staff were not permitted to discuss the evidence for the life of the ban.

    The judges later revealed, however, that they would have needed a time extension to complete their inquiry past October 1986.

    They also published a definition of misbehaviour as they ­interpreted it under the Constitution that would have been their guide to whether Murphy should be sacked.

    Factors determining misbehaviour included moral character, evidence of impropriety and whether conduct was a ­“mo­men­tary frenzy” or “habitual”.

    Murphy’s supporters claimed he was a reforming judge who, while hardly perfect, was pursued unfairly by political opponents. However, even some of his closest friends have conceded flaws that were possibly relevant to the commission’s work.

    “Diamond” Jim McClelland, a fellow Whitlam minister and later chief judge of the NSW Environment Court, said Murphy was “a bit indiscriminating in his friendships”. And the late former NSW Labor premier Neville Wran, Murphy’s closest friend, admitted that Murphy was “indiscreet”.

    Murphy’s dealings with McClelland are likely to figure in revelations because of allegations Murphy told McClelland he was interested in influencing NSW District Court judge Jim Staunton to intervene on behalf of criminal proceedings against Ryan.

    Another claim, related to Murphy’s time as attorney-general, was that he may have instructed that Ramon Sala, a Saffron associate and client of Ryan, be released from jail and have his false passport returned.

    From the Oz.

  43. Senile Old Guy

    Lions, elephants and marsupials will roam free at a new zoo at Blacktown in Sydney’s west after it was approved by the New South Wales Planning Assessment Commission. The Bungarribee zoo won’t cage its animals with the aim to attract Sydney families to the zoo which will have large open spaces.

    What could possibly go wrong?

    Link.

  44. Will these new laws be used differently, or just against conservatives?

    Be careful. It will be against the law to criticize “hate speech laws”.

    Euripides. Eat your heart out.

  45. Baldrick

    Brace yourselves cats. The YES vote, I expect to be overwhelming.

    Sportsbet’s latest odds:
    Result of SSM postal vote?
    For SSM 1.18
    Against SSM 4.00

  46. cuckoo

    Also set for a big win in court (although apparently she’s not seeking damages) is the woman claiming Crown casino made her gamble on the Pokies. Her press con was attended by Tim Costello, possibly the most smugly sanctimonious man in Australia. He’s a kind of albino Desmond Tutu.

  47. Philippa Martyr

    That also means our PM may reach the Potential Greatness Deadline.

    He always had one significant advantage through.

    He was less likely to get undermined by Malcolm Turnbull.

    Your loyalty is touching, minion.

    I am all agog at the closeness of the deadline. The sun will surely rise on Friday with a new brightness.

  48. Boambee John

    herodotus
    #2496467, posted on September 13, 2017 at 12:56 pm
    Have any muslims been caught by hate speech laws to date, or is it only Christians and Andrew Bolt, plus assorted students?
    Will these new laws be used differently, or just against conservatives?

    I assume these are rhetorical questions.

  49. Philippa Martyr

    I have a celebratory blog post for Friday, but given that Doomlord is in foreign parts, it may or may not appear in time, or at all.

  50. FreeTV have finally responded to my complaint about banning the dads4kids Fathers Day advertisement.
    They didn’t ban it donchaknow – they were simply following orders.
    Blaming the Broadcasting Services Act and ACMA while ignoring 16 years of precedent doesn’t cut it with me.

  51. Nelson Kidd-Players

    it deserves to be recognised, Philippa. 🙂

  52. Myrddin Seren

    Her press con was attended by Tim Costello, possibly the most smugly sanctimonious man in Australia.

    Huge, huge field of contenders for that title. And that is before we go to Most Smugly Sanctimonious Female. And Most Smugly Sanctimonious Gender Non-Specific. Before the Gold Logie for Most Smugly Sanctimonious Australian overall.

  53. Mother Lode

    65? What a retiring number.

  54. thefrolickingmole

    NSW Labor premier Neville Wran, Murphy’s closest friend,

    I wonder if we will see a frenzy of reporting on corruption from the ABC a-la the Fitzgerald /Queensland era stuff?

    I expect to see Murphy and Wran firmly in Saffrons pocket, possibly with blackmail material included.

    https://newmatilda.com/2014/04/24/wran-balmain-boy-gone-bad/

    And theres a Turdbull connection there as well.

    He went into business with his friend, the now Liberal Minister for Communications Malcolm Turnbull.

  55. I think I see a solution on the horizon to our electricity problems caused by roonabells.
    A Carrington event

    We have had an upsurge of solar storms recently.

    Imagine a geomagnetic storm that wipes out every wind turbine, solar PV in Australia. Overnight.

    In the panic to rebuild a generation capacity, no one will bother with roonabells.

  56. Fisky

    LOL, the “libertarian” Turnbull government is banning free speech for the entirety of the SSM campaign. What a farce, and how embarrassing for the “libertarians” who support this government.

  57. What a farce, and how embarrassing for the “libertarians” who support this government.

    You got that wrong fisk. It is “librarians” who support the government.

  58. dot loves Posner. Here is Posner at the NYT being interviewed following his decision to retire:

    “I pay very little attention to legal rules, statutes, constitutional provisions,” Judge Posner said. “A case is just a dispute. The first thing you do is ask yourself — forget about the law — what is a sensible resolution of this dispute?” The next thing, he said, was to see if a recent Supreme Court precedent or some other legal obstacle stood in the way of ruling in favor of that sensible resolution. “And the answer is that’s actually rarely the case,” he said. “When you have a Supreme Court case or something similar, they’re often extremely easy to get around.”

    Yes, really. He said that.

  59. LOL, the “libertarian” Turnbull government is banning free speech for the entirety of the SSM campaign. What a farce, and how embarrassing for the “libertarians” who support this government.

    I think most will be reasonably comfortable with this.

  60. Philippa Martyr

    LOL, the “libertarian” Turnbull government is banning free speech for the entirety of the SSM campaign. What a farce, and how embarrassing for the “libertarians” who support this government.

    Ahh, how’s the Potential Greatness™?

    By Friday, he will have declared himself Iman of the Ages and Supreme Leader, and after decapitating Lucy with the HoR mace, will legally marry a thousand carefully-selected gay couples on the grass roof of Parliament House. Tim Wilson will distribute colouring books as wedding favours.

    He will then be photographed doing a matey walk-through a Wentworth shopping district, totally failing to recognise celebrities other than himself.

  61. Snoopy

    On Sky, Kristina and Sam want to speak about anything but the trashing of free speech.

  62. v_maet

    [email protected]:06pm

    I like those odds.
    Similar to the Trump becoming president odds that netted me a tidy sum.

  63. Chris

    Imagine a geomagnetic storm that wipes out every wind turbine, solar PV in Australia. Overnight.

    In the panic to rebuild a generation capacity, no one will bother with roonabells.

    Actually there is a slow-motion version of the ascheduled anyway; as the eggbeaters reach their service lives all together, the capital involved in replacing them will not be sustainable if we can get the subsidies stopped.

  64. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Brace yourselves cats. The YES vote, I expect to be overwhelming.

    The YES vote will win by a goodly 20-30% of people that can be arsed voting.

    Normal people want the freaks to STFU and think by voting yes these deranged lunatics will be satisfied.

    They are of course wrong and will be upset with what unfolds in the coming decades. IN 15 years time when both major parties are running on pro-pedo platforms and advocating polyamory with kiddies and goats, don’t say you weren’t warned.

    Until the normals in society start taking back the country, it is the freaks who are steering things for the foreseeable future.

  65. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    I might add that it is females who are destroying the culture and driving this SSM madness amongst the normals.

  66. Rabz

    Lions, elephants and marsupials will roam free at a new zoo at Blacktown in Sydney’s west after it was approved

    Surely there are other cats who used to be dragged along to the 120 degree* Lion Safari in Sydney’s outer south west when they were kiddies? You drove through an enclosure in which some poor ol’ mouldy lions would sit around looking hugely bored with it all. The highlight was when they were fed some big chunks of meet, liberally marinated in large black blowflies.

    Nom, nom, nom …

    *So named as it always seemed to be 120 degrees when you visited, no matter the time of year. Presumably it was shut down following some regrettable lion related incidents, or the big kitties all ended up eventually carking it.

  67. jupes

    Have any muslims been caught by hate speech laws to date, or is it only Christians and Andrew Bolt, plus assorted students?

    I don’t think the laws have passed but when they do, I wonder how we will go at the Cat?

    Is “poofter ” hate speech? What about “homo”?

  68. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Isn’t Blacktown already an open zoo?

  69. Chris

    I think you are right in your predictions IT.
    All of them.
    I just wonder if as a nonagenarian I can manage the ethical rebore required to become whatever the will of the mob requires.

  70. Incoherent Rambler;

    In the panic to rebuild a generation capacity, no one will bother with roonabells.

    You are a silly, IR.
    The Greens will see this as a golden moment to stop all power generation in Australia, and will sabotage the Reconstruction to bring about their “Paradise on Earth.”
    Right after the coffee shop delivers the Soy Latte demi Lentil Fair Trade Coffee to their door.

  71. Myrddin Seren

    I expect to see Murphy and Wran firmly in Saffrons pocket, possibly with blackmail material included.

    Balmain Welding Company

    That is all.

  72. Zyconoclast

    Excellent defence of free speach in the Senate by David L.
    I thought he was far too polite.

  73. Lions, elephants …

    Release a breeding stock of both into Kakadu, inland Australia and (of course) selected Sydney suburbs.

    Lions prowling around places Ayers Rock, Pt Piper and Lakemba, munching on the odd straggler would be a great tourist attraction.

  74. Mother Lode

    Well, I don’t really know much about Rebel Wilson, or the things the magazine wrote about her, but it sounds like some justice was done.

    The power of the press is supposed to be that it can reveal the truth, not blacken someone’s name for their own purposes.

  75. Harlequin Decline

    In the aftermath of Harvey and Irma apparently there was some looting and suchlike but nothing on the scale of New Orleans in 2005 after Katrina.

    Jared Taylor’s 2005 article makes compelling reading on what can happen when law and order break down.

    I flew into LA from Sydney when the Rodney King riots were happening. Our flight was diverted to San Francisco halfway due to rioters firing on arriving aircraft. I managed to get a flight from SF down to Long Beach where the pilot advised there also were rioters shooting at aircraft and we may have to divert again. We landed without incident, I picked up a hire car and drove up the 405 to El Segundo. No traffic at all going north but streams of traffic heading out of town. As the week progressed they called out the National Guard and imposed a curfew which limited the mayhem.

    It always struck me that, with a 12% black population nursing grievances and empowered by media bias the USA is never far away from widespread disorder.

  76. Snoopy

    When these new hate speech laws are passed I hope someone is prosecuted for using the term “same sex marriage”. It is very hateful to the ‘T’s and ‘I’s.

  77. Bruce in WA

    Brace yourselves cats. The YES vote, I expect to be overwhelming.
    If you had any doubts about how far we have fallen, those doubts will be removed.

    I have come to the reluctant conclusion there is no doubt about it. It will be a resounding win for the “yes” vote; Turnbull will breathe a huge sigh of relief, crack a bottle of Krug 2000 Clos du Mesnil, perhaps even give Lucie one for old times’ sake … and Australia will steepen its decline even further into a society many of us no longer recognise.

  78. Myrddin Seren

    IN 15 years time when both major parties are running on pro-pedo platforms and advocating polyamory with kiddies and goats, don’t say you weren’t warned.

    It give it eight years max, at least in the CMFEU Caliphate of Victoriastan, and end of year school awards nights will feature the winners in the Safe Schools classes bent over a padded rail and getting rogered by a line of Cert 4 Accredited Gimps in Hi-Viz Latex. Parents and Grandparents will be thrilled as the prizes of soft towels and scented lube are handed out afterwards.

  79. test pattern

    ‘Final Report the Australian Constitutional Commission’ 1988 – S51:(26) for Non Citizens (Aboriginal)

    ‘The Final Report the Australian Constitutional Commission written in 1988 shows that the concept of Constitutional Reform and how it could be achieved is was decided on in 1988. The Constitutional Reform pathways are not inventions of Corporate Blacks of today….Constitutional Reform was endorsed at Uluru without a request for Rights to be enshrined.’

    https://www.facebook.com/notes/vote-no-to-constitutional-change/final-report-the-australian-constitutional-commission-1988-s5126-for-non-citizen/1570168346386970/

  80. Senile Old Guy

    You drove through an enclosure in which some poor ol’ mouldy lions would sit around looking hugely bored with it all.

    But get out of the car, or climb the fence, and they stop being bored:

    A tiger has been shot dead after a man who climbed a fence into the tiger enclosure to avoid paying for a ticket was mauled to death at a zoo in eastern China.

    PETA, of course, immediately expressed sympathy for the man’s family. No, no, they did not!

    The incident drew criticism from People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), which said it reflected the problems of keeping tigers and other large cats in captivity. “Attacks by captive big cats on people — which occur with staggering regularity — illustrate the profound level of stress, anxiety and agitation these animals experience every day of their lives,” said vice president of international campaigns, Jason Baker.

    The tiger was bored, so it ate him.

  81. John64

    Latest news from Planet Snowflake:

    Opposition Leader Bill Shorten has written to Mr Turnbull asking for “an urgent allocation of funding for LGBTIQ counselling and trauma services” to help them deal with any demand for services because of the same-sex marriage survey.

    “Phone counselling services have had to put on additional staff to cope with this influx,” Mr Shorten wrote.

    “Given your determination to proceed with this survey despite the harm it will cause, you have a responsibility to ensure that services around the country are able to cope with the consequences. We cannot leave LGBTIQ Australians and their families on their own through this process.”

  82. Rabz

    in the CMFEU Caliphate of Victoriastan, and end of year school awards nights will feature the winners in the Safe Schools classes bent over a padded rail and getting rogered by a line of Cert 4 Accredited Gimps in Hi-Viz Latex

    All bathed in the warm glow of candlelight, which of course will be the only form of illumination available.

  83. notafan

    Bauer tried to profit off Rebel’s success.

    The email produced in court and reproduced in the Tele article clearly showed that Rebel was truthful about her age and name and publishing otherwise was known by the journalist to be a lie but Bauer thought they would get away with it because of the prohibitive cost of litigation.

    The ‘source’ of course appears to have gotten away with telling porkies.

    Good on Rebel for pursuing this.

  84. jupes

    It always struck me that, with a 12% black population nursing grievances and empowered by media bias the USA is never far away from widespread disorder.

    Wait till we get 12% Muslim. There will be a bit more than widespread disorder.

  85. Is “poofter ” hate speech? What about “homo”?

    “No” vote will be hate speech.

  86. Tom

    Can I ask Cats to indicate when they receive the ABS survey form on SSM? There’s no sign of mine in the mailbox.

    I read that they will mail only 660,000 forms every weekday, which means the mailout will take one day short of five weeks! I presume that’s because the mail is delivered on horseback and it will take over a month for Her Majesty’s horsemen of the SSM apocalypse weeks to cover the continent.

    Which is still pretty advanced.

    For 1900.

  87. Dr Faustus

    The Marriage Law Survey (Additional Safeguards) Bill 2017 has passed through the Senate unaltered. Clause 15, the clause most likely to be used to dampen discussion in public fora such as this, provides:

    After this section commences, a person (the first person) must not vilify, intimidate or threaten to cause harm to another person or persons if the first person engaged in the conduct that vilified, intimidated or threatened the other person or persons because of any of the following:
    (a) the other person or persons have expressed or hold a view in relation to the marriage law survey question;
    (b) the first person believes that the other person or persons hold a view in relation to the marriage law survey question;
    (c ) the religious conviction, sexual orientation, gender identity or intersex status of the other person or persons.

    So, wide ranging and subjective, and offering plenty of room for unintended consequences:

    Vilify: to speak or write about in an abusively disparaging manner.
    Intimidate: to frighten or overawe someone.

    I have no idea of the standard the Federal Court would use to interpret these terms given the apparently fragile mental state of the likely complainants, but the cost of finding out is 60 penalty units ($12,600) plus costs.

    The added bonus is that these sanctions appear to persist beyond the conclusion of the Marriage Law Survey, and presumably remain available for use in perpetuity by the aggrieved lawfarer until the legislation is repealed.

    I, for one, welcome our new [add aggrieved species] overlords.

  88. test pattern

    Tradition Kija Welcome to Country E.Kimberley

    Manthe – the Host / Guest Relationship

    Manthe is also said to be a “welcoming ceremony” by Gija people who say that it “comes from the Ngarranggarni and the old people” … According to a number of Gija people, the practice of welcoming family groups or individuals into one’s camp is common within the contemporary Warmun community. It is considered both polite and appropriate for people to approach another camp in a cautious and humble manner and wait for an invitation to enter the camp… Another context is the welcoming of a ‘stranger’ who may be close kin and well known to people in the host group but someone who has never been introduced to the country that they are seeking to visit .. As one senior Gija woman
    explained: Old people use to tell us you can’t go to that person’s country and get anything. That is another person’s land. You can’t go and pick up this stuff, no, not even for bush tucker. Right, they got to manthe you first. Then you can take ‘em … Another senior Gija woman reported: They welcome you again, that country, and they give [to] you then. They gotta give it, that thing [manthe], with their own will. Well, that is the country blah alabat [that belongs to those people]. If we want to eat’em [bush tucker], well, they give us. They have welcomed we’ …

    In a situation where there is a ‘living water’ at the site being visited those performing manthe anoint the head, feet and hands of the visitor with that water as a way to introduce the visitor to the local country and resident Dreaming beings. The Gija woman Shirley Purdie explained it in the following way when introducing people to the country during a visit to country by an exploration company. “This is so they can know you.” ‘

    file:///D:/03chapter6_10.pdf.pdf

  89. Mother Lode

    What could possibly go wrong?

    Well, did it occur to you that the reason for the institutionalised discord we call ‘nature’ might be the lack of enlightened progressive ideology.

    Lions, for example, attack and eat other animals because of the extreme laissez faire economic model of the jungle. How else can they eat? Other animals are territorial. Yet can any animal really ‘own’ the earth? Excluding other animals of the same species is to rob them of what is there for all.

    The zoo plans to run a series of workshops for the lions – getting them to imagine that they are being torn to pieces and eaten. And, introducing the idea that the source of their anger may well be a diet of meat. Perhaps if they tried mung beans?

  90. Atoms for Peace

    I loved this show, and now it’s almost schooling fact.

  91. notafan

    Reality is, most people on the no side are afraid to express public opinions, at best I might say something on the fringe, under my own name on social media.

    The yes lot are vicious crybullies.

    I therefore don’t have an opinion about the outcome as it’s dangerous to be no.

    We’ll see.

  92. notafan

    In other words yes will villify to their heart’s content.

    No will shut up.

  93. I don’t think the laws have passed but when they do, I wonder how we will go at the Cat?

    The tumbrils and scaffolding are being constructed as we speak.

  94. Nigel Hadgkiss of Building Construction Commission has resigned.

    Unfortunately another win for the scum at the CFMEU. Lucky Shorten is not PM or he would appoint a former CFMEU leader to replace Hadgkiss.

    Going to be hard to find a replacement with the fortitude to take on Setka and his mates.

  95. Geriatric Mayfly

    QT looks like a re-run of yesterday. The blame game writ large for electrickery prices. Waffle, waffle, waffle Snowy 2 etc etc etc. I think people want to know if electrickery prices will come down NOW., not when some thought bubble or boondoggle comes on stream.

  96. Geriatric Mayfly

    Nigel Hadgkiss of Building Construction Commission has resigned

    Shame! Wee Doogie of Glasgie Toon will be cock o’ hoops. The tay lady will be run off her feet.

  97. True Aussie

    overawe someone

    Wtf? What is the legal definition of overawe?

  98. C.L.

    I kind of find Lionel Murphy’s love of poker and an off-course punt – and a quiet word for a mate – positively endearing, to be honest. Compared to the technically law-abiding, sodomy-obsessed, children-brainwashing wowsers and weirdos now leading the Labor Party and the Labor-judiciary, he’s a mensch. Who would you rather have a beer with, Lionel Murphy or Daniel Andrews?

  99. Mother Lode

    You got that wrong fisk. It is “librarians” who support the government.

    That’s true.

    Librarians are always telling people to keep silent.

  100. test pattern

    WA 1905

    EVIDENCE TAKEN BY DR. ROTH.
    TREATMENT OF THE NATIVES.
    POLICE METHODS IN THE KIMBERLEY DISTRICT.

    ‘…what is your opinion as to alleged cruelty of station managers to blacks? As regards the Fitzroy district, I consider that it is a disgrace. From what I have seen there, in the majority of cases women are employed..
    The boss has his own fancy, woman and the overseer has from eight to ten to choose from. I have seen not one but several whipped at night for allowing sheep to wander or because they did not muster the sheep in the paddocks. I saw this at the Quanbun Station. What the name of the manager there? Rose. Has he got a fancy woman? Yes. What is her name? I think it is Judy. Where are the husbands of these women? In the majority of cases there are no native men there. What has become of them? They may have been shot down years ago.’

    ‘How are the natives treated by the Kimberley pastoralists ? They have to work.night and day, and all they get is a bit of clothing and a little food. They are only half-fed and half-clothed. It only costs about a shilling a week to keep them. When they get old and infirm they are allowed to lie down and die. Have you been on the stations? Yes. I have seen old men and women blind and helpless. There is no home for them. They die like dogs.’

    cont

  101. Myrddin Seren

    “No” vote will be hate speech.

    I am just a tad concerned that votes and identifying envelopes will be retained by the ABS for later trials, once Shorten retrospectively criminalises a ‘No’ vote.

  102. C.L.

    What is the police force for the plebiscite speech ban?
    Somebody wears an “I Hate Poofs” t-shirt at a pub in Alice Springs and – what? – George Brandis sends in the SAS? The local constable is dispatched by Tim Sourpossumass?

    ?

  103. jupes

    Steyn as usual nails it:

    … Yesterday President Trump said he was committed to ensuring that terrorists “never again have a safe haven to launch attacks against our country”.

    By that he means “safe havens” in Afghanistan. But the reason these the west’s enemies are able to pile up a continuous corpse count in Paris, Nice, Berlin, Brussels, London, Manchester, Copenhagen, Stockholm, Orlando, San Bernadino, Ottawa, Sydney, Barcelona, [Your Town Here] is because they have “safe havens” in France, Germany, Britain, Scandinavia, North America, etc. Which “safe havens” are likely to prove more consequential for the developed world in the years ahead?

    Who’s winning what turf? After 16 years of western military occupation, the Taliban control more territory in Afghanistan than at any time since the first US troops went in. On the other hand, after 16 years of accelerating Islamic immigration, Europe has more no-go zones, more sharia courts, more refugees, more covered women, more Muslim-dominated schoolhouses, more radical mosques, more female genital mutilation, more grooming and gang rape, more Muslim Brotherhood front groups, more Muslim mayors and legislators, more Muslim-funded Middle East Studies programs at universities …and fewer churches, fewer Jews in Toulouse, fewer gays in Amsterdam, fewer unaccompanied women out after dark in German and Swedish cities, fewer historical representations of Mohammed in Continental museums, art galleries and scholarly books, fewer mixed bathing sessions at municipal swimming pools, fewer lessons on the Crusades and the Holocaust in European schools …and less and less free speech in some of the oldest democracies on earth.

    Includes a scathing indictment of Trump and Mad Dog. Sad.

    RTWT

  104. jupes

    Steyn as usual nails it:

    … Yesterday President Trump said he was committed to ensuring that terrorists “never again have a safe haven to launch attacks against our country”.

    By that he means “safe havens” in Afghanistan. But the reason these the west’s enemies are able to pile up a continuous corpse count in Paris, Nice, Berlin, Brussels, London, Manchester, Copenhagen, Stockholm, Orlando, San Bernadino, Ottawa, Sydney, Barcelona, [Your Town Here] is because they have “safe havens” in France, Germany, Britain, Scandinavia, North America, etc. Which “safe havens” are likely to prove more consequential for the developed world in the years ahead?

    Who’s winning what turf? After 16 years of western military occupation, the Taliban control more territory in Afghanistan than at any time since the first US troops went in. On the other hand, after 16 years of accelerating Islamic immigration, Europe has more no-go zones, more sharia courts, more refugees, more covered women, more Muslim-dominated schoolhouses, more radical mosques, more female genital mutilation, more grooming and gang rape, more Muslim Brotherhood front groups, more Muslim mayors and legislators, more Muslim-funded Middle East Studies programs at universities …and fewer churches, fewer J*ws in Toulouse, fewer gays in Amsterdam, fewer unaccompanied women out after dark in German and Swedish cities, fewer historical representations of Mohammed in Continental museums, art galleries and scholarly books, fewer mixed bathing sessions at municipal swimming pools, fewer lessons on the Crusades and the Holocaust in European schools …and less and less free speech in some of the oldest democracies on earth.

    Includes a scathing indictment of Trump and Mad Dog. Sad.

    RTWT

  105. Tintarella di Luna

    I remember when we have blackouts in 1973 for some reason I can’t remember when but I used to work for MBF at Maroubra and remember we had to sit in the office processing claims by torchlight. The only reason I look forward to blackouts is for the hip young things to know where electricity comes from and why baseload power is so important.

  106. Tim Neilson

    I am just a tad concerned that votes and identifying envelopes will be retained by the ABS for later trials, once Shorten retrospectively criminalises a ‘No’ vote.

    Yes, I noticed some reference in a previous thread to each ballot paper having a bar code. I understand they’d need something like that to stop (or at least look like they’re trying to stop) GetUp printing a few hundred thousand supplementary ballots, but that’s why they should do the old two envelope routine (i.e. outer envelope to be posted back with identifying details so they can prevent rorting, but ballot sealed inside second inner envelope and not opened till mixed in with thousands of others).

  107. Nigel Hadgkiss of Building Construction Commission has resigned.

    Unfortunately another win for the scum at the CFMEU. Lucky Shorten is not PM or he would appoint a former CFMEU leader to replace Hadgkiss.

    Soon…

  108. Tintarella di Luna

    Pictured earlier today:
    George Brandis laughs after the Senate approves of his government’s ban on free speech.

    Every time I see that moon-faced oaf I have to turn away lest I blow a gasket.

  109. Tom

    The email produced in court and reproduced in the Tele article clearly showed that Rebel was truthful about her age and name and publishing otherwise was known by the journalist to be a lie but Bauer thought they would get away with it because of the prohibitive cost of litigation.

    The record $4.5 million defamation judgement against Bauer Media was brought down by Judge John Dixon — one of the last few appointments in Rob Hulls’ fixing of the judiciary (until the Liars’ ouster in 2010) with a flood of Liars maaates. However, Dixon has gone off-script in reflecting the popular loathing of journalists with a precedent that will severely discourage irresponsible meeja stenographers from making shit up — the main method the leftard media uses to smear ideological opponents.

    So Dixon is to be heartily congratulated for removing himself from the Green left Christmas card list — a marvellous unintended consequence.

  110. Zyconoclast

    Is “poofter ” hate speech? What about “homo”?

    Homo will be ok if followed by an apostrophe to indicate an abbreviation.

    Homo’

  111. Tim Neilson

    What is the police force for the plebiscite speech ban?
    Somebody wears an “I Hate Poofs” t-shirt at a pub in Alice Springs and – what? – George Brandis sends in the SAS? The local constable is dispatched by Tim Sourpossumass?

    Peanut Head is right onto it. He’s foreshadowed taxpayer funding for an equality Stasi.

  112. RobertS

    SSM ballot received in letterbox at 1400hrs today at postcode 2905. In a nice big envelope that hangs out of the box so pilferers can see what it is.

  113. C.L.

    Every time I see that moon-faced oaf I have to turn away lest I blow a gasket.

    LOL.
    Rarely have a I seen a head more deserving of a frozen ducking.

  114. All this talk of gay Gestapo and equality Stasi. And yet you lot whinge about leftist rhetorical overreach.

    The Noie defeatism in this thread is enjoyable, nonetheless. It can’t be long before you lot go all the way and compare your (alleged) forthcoming defeat in the survey to the Shoah.

  115. Zyconoclast

    Australian Building and Construction Commission boss Nigel Hadgkiss resigns after breaking law

    Mr Hadgkiss came under immediate pressure to resign from his $426,000-a-year job after he admitted on Tuesday to recklessly misrepresenting union rights to employers over a period of two years.

    He is now facing thousands of dollars in penalties as a result of Federal Court action brought by the Construction, Forestry, Mining and Energy Union.

    He breached section 503 of the Fair Work Act by publishing downloadable posters and fact sheets on the ABCC’s website that misrepresent the rights of union officials during entry to premises to meet workers.

    He failed to correct the material despite concerns being raised by his staff.

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/australian-building-and-construction-commission-boss-nigel-hadgkiss-resigns-after-admitting-to-breaking-law-20170913-gygha0.html?deviceType=text

  116. test pattern

    WA 1905

    EVIDENCE TAKEN BY DR. ROTH. TREATMENT OF THE NATIVES. POLICE METHODS IN THE KIMBERLEY DISTRICT.

    …’I firmly believe that the blacks do not understand the charges that are brought against them. I have seen the native asked, “How many cattle you kill?” and the number indicated on the fingers. The native answers “Yes” to this, and it is taken as evidence. The natives generally laugh at it and think it a great joke. They do not understand the seriousness of the charges. It is a perfect farce.

    Is it true that young women are generally brought in as witnesses in cattle killing cases? Yes. In some in-
    stances little boys have been brought in to give evidence who are not of mature age. Is all this cross-examination done through the interpreter?-Yes. In three years I have seen many cases in Wyndham, and can honestly say that I consider numbers of these natives have been brought in by the police to gain their own ends. What do you mean by saying to gain their own ends ? -By bringing in these natives they derive a revenue of a certain sum per head, and in 99 cases out of 100 the natives are not fed at all. The police obtain this money from the Government as a fee for the upkeep of the native prisoners. I have seen the gin witnesses hunted out to catch lizards. This happened within 25 miles of Wyndham. Are you satisfied in your own mind that the police do not give the natives the rations that they are supposed to give them?-Yes. Are the prisoners always chained? Yes…I have seen old and feebie men brought in by the police driven in front of the horses. They could hardly walk…Is it to the advantage of the police, then, to bring in as many blacks as they can from as great a distance as they can keeping them as long on the road as possible? -Yes…

    …In the cases that you saw in Wyndham did the blacks ever get any justice? During the years that I was in Wyndham I did not see one case of justice…The trial of natives in the courts of justice in the Kimberley district that I have seen is a perfect farce. During the time that I was in Wyndham there were four Resident Magistrates there. I am not sure of one of them, but three of them who received commissions to try natives on serious charges had tried them previously in the lower court. In one case the Magistrate was absolutely deaf and I do not think he could try a case justly.

    Do you mean to tell me that Resident Magistrates have received commissions to try natives on capital offences? Yes.’

    cont

    WA 1905 and 2017.

    Justice for Elijah.

  117. Yeah, that ABCC is going well. Well worth the blood and treasure used to set it up. LOL.

  118. Zyconoclast

    Wait till we get 12% Muslim. There will be a bit more than widespread disorder.

    You mean cultural enrichment.

  119. H B Bear

    Love media applauding Liar hypocrite kd wrong’s emotional speech in the Senate, despite voting down homosexual marriage just a few years earlier.

  120. H B Bear

    Looks like they have thrown the drunks out of the South Hedland pub right on time again.

  121. Snoopy

    All this talk of gay Gestapo and equality Stasi. And yet you lot whinge about leftist rhetorical overreach.

    Antifa drone outraged by trademark infringement.

  122. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    The Beer Whisperer at 11:35 am on the old thread made me smile:

    ” Master of Peace and Conflict Studies (MPaCS)
    Students will gain an advanced understanding of how conflicts emerge and how they can be managed and solved …”

    We went to a course conducted by blokes who were qualified in that manner back in the mid ’60s – my best china’s older brothers and their mates, most of them graded with Newtown Bluebags. I imagine in these days they’d be Cert II or III in Keeping Order. Their method was simple, direct and quite easy to pick up in those more civilised days.

    As an example I recall wandering along Redfern Station on the way home from a mid week Amco Cup match with my mate (we were about 15 years old and only recently enrolled in Becoming Independently Able) with his next oldest brother (at about 19) ambling along perhaps 30 yards behind. Half a dozen older blokes had something to say to my mate about his glasses as we passed them, they wanted to go on with it, we were not sure what to say or do but then our tutor caught up and offered an unscheduled practical.

    “Which one of you plicks wants to go first? Eh? Alright, you’re the biggest, you’ll do.” Thump! Thud! “Who’s next?”

    Emergent conflict evaluated, opening address kept to a minimum, purpose made clear without equivocation, brevity employed without complex explanation, proportionate response, peace inflicted, don’t hang around to admire your good work.

    It’s a bit hard to understand how a matter as simple as this can become the subject of a Masters! – not at all like the sheer terror experienced trying to keep up with Dr Pat Apps’ pure maths series just a few years later at the University across the way there.

  123. Zyconoclast


    (a) the other person or persons have expressed or hold a view in relation to the marriage law survey question;
    (b) the first person believes that the other person or persons hold a view in relation to the marriage law survey question;
    (c ) the religious conviction, sexual orientation, gender identity or intersex status of the other person or persons.

    So if I can claim to read your mind and find nasty ideas I don’t like the George ‘I love a burka’ Brandis can direct civil action against me?

    Legal Cats, did I get that right?

  124. notafan

    Oh shut up Monty.

    You should see the nastiness I cop when I very politely and with charity, try to argue the no case in a couple of private groups on Facebook.

  125. Harlequin Decline

    C.L.
    #2496544, posted on September 13, 2017 at 2:19 pm
    Pictured earlier today:
    George Brandis laughs after the Senate approves of his government’s ban on free speech.

    I see from the picture that the Human Headlice has swathed itself in rainbow raiment for the occasion.

  126. Tom

    Google What It’s Like to Be Smeared by the Southern Poverty Law Center

    By Carol M. Swain
    Sept. 11, 2017 7:07 p.m. ET

    Richard Cohen, president of the Southern Poverty Law Center, was to testify before the House Homeland Security Committee about threats posed by domestic extremist groups. The hearing, scheduled for Tuesday, has been postponed because of Hurricane Irma. As a black conservative who has been smeared by the SPLC, I recommend against reinviting Mr. Cohen.

    When Morris Dees and Joseph J. Levin Jr. started the SPLC in 1971, it was needed and it had noble goals. In recent years, however, it has become a tool of the radical left. Domestically, it uses its influence to paint with a broad brush that smears immigration restrictionists, orthodox Christian churches and pro-family organizations as “hate groups.”

    What landed me in the SPLC’s crosshairs was a Sept. 10, 2009, Huffington Post blog entry titled “Mission Creep and the Southern Poverty Law Center’s Misguided Focus.” I pointed out the SPLC’s silence about video footage released after the 2008 elections showing members of the New Black Panther Party, decked out in full paramilitary regalia, patrolling a polling precinct in Philadelphia where they were clearly intimidating white voters.

    Although several news organizations covered the story, the SPLC ignored the incident. At the time, the law center was spending an inordinate amount of time attacking then-CNN host Lou Dobbs for his relentless focus on illegal immigration. It demanded that CNN fire the anchor. After CNN and Mr. Dobbs parted ways, the SPLC took credit for getting him off the air. I ended my post with a one-liner that raised the ire of the organization and had a devastating effect on my life. I wrote: “Rather than monitoring hate groups, the Southern Poverty Law Center has become one.”

    The SPLC’s retaliation was vicious and effective. On Oct. 17, 2009, my photo appeared on the front page of my local newspaper, the Tennessean, with the headline “ Carol Swain is an apologist for white supremacists.” That was a quote from Mark Potok, at the time the SPLC’s national spokesman. The context for Mr. Potok’s attack was a review I gave for a film titled “A Conversation About Race.” I endorsed it for classroom use because it offered a perspective on race rarely encountered on university campuses. Mr. Potok argued that the filmmaker was a bigot. I felt then and now that the perspective needed to be heard.

    This negative article was featured on the front pages of several newspapers and it went viral, especially in black media outlets. The attacks did not subside until this newspaper’s website published a lengthy article titled “In Defense of Carol Swain.”

    Being targeted by the SPLC has had a lasting impact on my life and career. Offers from other universities ended and speaking opportunities declined. Once you’ve been smeared in this way, mainstream news outlets are less likely to cite you as an expert of any kind.

    Yet today I wear the SPLC’s mud as a badge of honor because I know I am in the company of many good men and women who have been similarly vilified for standing for righteousness and truth. Other SPLC targets have included Ben Carson (who eventually received an apology and retraction), Somali refugee Ayaan Hirsi Ali, terrorism expert Steve Emerson, political scientist Guenter Lewy (who successfully sued the SPLC), attorney Robert Muise, Frank Gaffney of the Center for Security Policy, and Princeton professor Robert P. George. The SPLC has tagged Mr. George, a devout Catholic intellectual, as “anti-LGBT.”

    Whatever label the SPLC assigns, such smears are harmful and designed to destroy the individual’s credibility and ability to have influence in the public square.

    Some of those vilified by the SPLC have been subjected to even worse treatment. The Family Research Council and House Majority Whip Steve Scalise have been violently attacked by individuals inspired by the propaganda the SPLC regularly dishes out—which is often accepted without criticism and passed on by media, law-enforcement agencies and universities.

    The SPLC should not be dignified with invitations to provide congressional testimony about domestic extremism as long as it continues to advance a transparently partisan agenda—one Mr. Potok has publicly acknowledged is designed to “destroy” groups it opposes.

    Ms. Swain, a former professor of political science and law at Vanderbilt University, is author of “The New White Nationalism in America: Its Challenge to Integration.”

    Swain interview today with Tucker Carlson here.

  127. OldOzzie

    Two more attacks follow the rampage by 20 youths at Cranbourne North Coles

    A GANG of nine youths mobbed and attacked a man near the Casey ARC fitness centre in Narre Warren on Saturday just hours after 20 young people rampaged through the Coles Cranbourne, police have revealed.

    And later that same night, a group of up to six young men approached a teenager and robbed him of his mobile phone as he left a bus near High St, Cranbourne, about 9.40pm.

    Police cannot confirm the crimes are linked but say all three involved youths of African appearance.

  128. Wong is a phony. You can’t have this sort of emotion now having previously argued the opposite less than a decade a go and voted accordingly.

  129. The Deplorable Barking Toad

    received my poof survey form in the post today

    has been returned with a big X in the right hand side box

  130. You should see the nastiness I cop when I very politely and with charity, try to argue the no case in a couple of private groups on Facebook.

    I think I would greatly enjoy watching those conversations, nota. Standards are a lot different on FB than the Cat.

  131. Check out the Daily Mail story about ALP Senator Louise Pratt, a lesbian mother of a 3 year old, and her rainbow family of three Dads ( a trans man and two gay males, one of whom is the father).

    Seems she was upset somebody handed her a No campaign leaflet in the street.

    Can’t say anymore as not seen details of the new legislation.

    On a seperate matter when is Brandis going to be sent overseas ? Sooner the better.

  132. Geriatric Mayfly

    Have the Black Marias started fanning out yet, rounding up the NO haters and the enemies of Beria Brandis? A knock on the door at 3am and it’s off to the Lubyanka to meet George in person.

  133. notafan

    LNP are Fascists!

    Tony Abbott is the new Stalin.

    Vote yes because Love is Love.

  134. As CL observed earlier, people comfortable with their situation do not feel the need to act in the way that Wong is currently. It’s like an episode of Modern Family, full of ostentatious displays of parenting that simply don’t appear where natural parents are involved.

  135. Snoopy

    On a seperate matter when is Brandis going to be sent overseas ? Sooner the better.

    Surely there is an urgent need for an Australian consul in Myanmar’s Rakhine State?

  136. Mother Lode

    A tiger has been shot dead after a man who climbed a fence into the tiger enclosure to avoid paying for a ticket was mauled to death at a zoo in eastern China.

    My God!

    It is Harambe all over again!

    He could just be the unluckiest reinaranated spirit ever!

    Maybe they only hit the lion by accident when he passed in front of the man.

  137. Have the Black Marias started fanning out yet, rounding up the NO haters and the enemies of Beria Brandis? A knock on the door at 3am and it’s off to the Lubyanka to meet George in person.

    Re-education camp headed in your diretion.

  138. Lysander

    I heard somehwere (but cannot confirm) that the AFL has approved a trannie to play in womens’ league AFL. This is a man playing in a woman’s league??? Is this for real?

  139. Roger

    A quick scan of the legislation suggests it applies to material broadcast or published as campaign material for or against same sex marriage during the period of the postal survey and not personal communications as such.

  140. Snoopy,
    Or how about Climate Ambassador to the South Pole. He could pontificate to penguins

  141. notafan

    You know Monty, I think you and I have very different ideas about what is fun.

    Still yessers very quickly descend into the most bizzare and ugly attacks.

    It’s very telling.

  142. notafan

    Lysander

    If true that is a good thing.

    Lesbians tend not to be keen on male to female trannies,

    Can’t think why.

  143. OldOzzie

    Liberals did not do well in Northern Beaches Council Elections

    FP Votes Quota % Formal Votes
    Northern Beaches – Curl Curl Ward – E Group Votes LIBERAL 6,336 1.02 25.51%
    Northern Beaches – Frenchs Forest Ward – B Group Votes LIBERAL 9,444 1.41 35.17%
    Northern Beaches – Manly Ward – E Group Votes LIBERAL 7,487 1.17 29.23%
    Northern Beaches – Narrabeen Ward – D Group Votes LIBERAL 8,052 1.23 30.81%
    Northern Beaches – Pittwater Ward – B Group Votes LIBERAL 7,394 1.14 28.56%

    Pretty Low First Preference (FP) Vote for Liberal Strong area

  144. the AFL has approved a trannie to play in womens’ league AFL

    Could be any number of Collingwood players.

  145. Snoopy

    Snoopy,
    Or how about Climate Ambassador to the South Pole. He could pontificate to penguins

    Or Malmo. Monty could be his loyal manservant.

  146. Lysander

    Thanks folks; I left myself wide open on that one!

  147. You know Monty, I think you and I have very different ideas about what is fun.

    We’re both here, at least.

  148. SSM ballot received in letterbox at 1400hrs today at postcode 2905. In a nice big envelope that hangs out of the box so pilferers can see what it is.

    Excellent.
    Steal half a dozen late at night.
    Go online, claim to have ignored by the postie – one more vote.
    Ask the Melboune office of surveying for a replacement.
    Get grandma and grandpa’s and say you will look after it for them.

    10 votes. Simple.

  149. I like it. From The Age.

    A former paramedic and VIC CFA board member who was sacked from the board by the Emergency Services Minister is to take on the Minister in the next VIC election.

  150. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    ‘It was too hurtful’: Labor senator describes her shock at being handed a ‘No’ vote pamphlet while down at the shops with her son and his three fathers

    Labor Senator Joe Bullock resigned so this freakshow could get back in to the Senate.

  151. Senile Old Guy

    VICTORIA’S first openly transgender footballer says she believes a transgender woman will soon play in the AFLW competition. Emily Rowe, 35, will later this year play for the Shepparton Bears in the new Northern Country Women’s League (scroll down for special report). She has spent her life playing with teams from Jerilderie to Wodonga to the VAFA’s South Melbourne Districts before transitioning from man to woman last August. The AFL says it is ready to rule on the legality of a transgender player being accepted into the AFLW. Some transgender women who have had reassignment surgery play in Victorian leagues, while others who have played TAC Cup have become transgender women.

  152. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    She shares her three-year-old son Jasper with her former partner – a trans man – and Western Australia Environment Minister Stephen Dawson and his partner, according to the publication.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4878860/Senator-Louise-Pratt-warns-new-laws-won-t-stop-prejudice.html#ixzz4sX8O32jD
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  153. ‘It was too hurtful’: Labor senator describes her shock at being handed a ‘No’ vote

    Where was this incompetent idiot during the last gazillion years when people have had opposition parties hand them “how to vote” leaflets at every election we have ever had?

  154. Have the Black Marias started fanning out yet, …

    Mounted police will subdue any no voters.

  155. She shares her three-year-old son Jasper with her former partner – a trans man – and Western Australia Environment Minister Stephen Dawson and his partner, according to the publication.

    I went looking at the Betoota Advocate for this quote but to no avail.

  156. Sparkx

    Notafan, have a gander at these respectful comments

  157. OldOzzie

    Hunter Valley Bushfire: Hunter Valley homes at risk, Tony Abbott joins fire fight

    Tony Abbott has left Canberra for the day to fight a fire burning near his Sydney northern beaches electorate of Warringah.

    The former prime minister is driving a truck for his local Davidson Rural Fire Brigade, where he has volunteered since 2001.

    The fire has burnt through more than 30 hectares at Red Hill Reserve in Beacon Hill since a suspicious fire which started several days ago reignited.

    More than 100 firefighters are battling the blaze, including Mr Abbott, who is leading a crew and fighting spotfires according to a spokesman.

    A spokesman for Chief Government Whip Nola Marino confirmed Mr Abbott had been granted a pair in parliament.

    Interestingly, Mr Abbott’s leave comes courtesy of legislation he introduced himself as Employment and Workplace Relations Minister in 2003, when he introduced a bill to protect the jobs of emergency services volunteers.

    It’s not the first time Mr Abbott has ditched parliament to fight a fire.

    As Prime Minister in 2013 Mr Abbott joined his Davidson crew to battle the horrific Blue Mountains bushfires which claimed the lives of two people, destroyed 500 buildings, and burnt through 118,000 hectares.

  158. notafan

    Louise, darling, your three year old can’t read and I’m sure your bizzare family arrangements will cause much more hurt and confusion over the next many years.

    Didn’t realise you’d split with the trans man, will the next parental unit identify as male or female?

  159. Tailgunner

    173!!
    Has Montel disavowed Eric Clanton yet?!

  160. OldOzzie

    For those Cats still in the Betting

    Three months to decide Turnbull’s fate

    We’ll know by Christmas whether Malcolm Turnbull’s Prime Ministership is salvageable or whether he’s a Dead Man Walking.

    The next three months will decide the fate of Mr Turnbull.

    His future now rests on two issues — same-sex marriage and the nation’s energy crisis.

    On same sex marriage, the best outcome for the Prime Minister is a “yes” vote in the postal survey, the results of which are due on November 15.

    A “Yes” vote will indicate broad support for a change to the Marriage Act.

    It will not be scientific — it is a voluntary survey, with none of the compulsion of a federal election.

    • Australian Politics Live: SSM, energy dominate parliament

    The priority for both the “Yes” and “No” campaigns will be to convince people to fill in the survey and then return it.

    A “Yes” vote will mean that there is no risk to Turnbull overseeing the introduction of a bill into Parliament — resistance from the Right of his party to a change to the Marriage Act will have been neutralised.

    Turnbull then will, undoubtedly, seek to bask in the flow of a victory — and he would almost certainly get a political lift as allowing same-sex marriage is something with which the Prime Minister is known to agree.

    While initially suggesting he would not campaign for the “Yes” side, Mr Turnbull is now becoming more engaged in that cause.

    It is no coincidence that his bitter rival Tony Abbott is one of the leaders of the “No” campaign.

    The other issue that holds the fate of the Prime Minister is the crisis in power.

    Extraordinarily, for a country with so much wealth and so many natural resources, Australia faces a summer where we cannot be guaranteed that our lights will go on.

    The complete lack of a coherent energy policy has been 20 years or so in the making.

    Neither major party is blame free — neither has shown real leadership in making sure that Australia had a reliable bank of power as it, gradually, begins to increase the use of renewable energy.

    But Mr Turnbull is now in the demeaning situation of having to micromanage individual power stations to try to keep the lights on.

    The Prime Minister did not need to wait for last week’s warning from the Australian Energy Market Operator to realise the full extent of the crisis.

    He needed only to read an extraordinary series of articles earlier this year on this website by the legendary financial commentator Robert Gottliebsen.

    In one article, Gottliebsen warned: “The national emergency set to be created by the Australian power and energy crisis is only just becoming apparent. It is the most serious peacetime issue this country has faced since the depression. The Commonwealth government has started to tackle gas but they have yet to take action on electricity.”

    In another he wrote: “All businesses and households in Victoria, NSW and South Australia need to seriously consider investing substantial sums in diesel generators, batteries or other sources of emergency power. Banks need to be ready to fund the massive investment required during the next nine months.

    “It is now absolutely clear that each of the state governments have not invested in sufficient emergency power to back their wind and solar installations and now have a network of wires that is unsuitable for the power generation grid they have established.

    “And the Commonwealth promises a partial solution in two or three years via the Snowy but has washed its hands of the looming disaster next summer.

    “That means that businesses and residents who need power in hot summer days are on their own. Prepare for massive food rotting and equipment (including computer) disruption for those who did not recognise the extent of the destruction of power security by three state governments.”

    Massive food rotting. Businesses and residents who need power on hot summer days being on their own.

    These words were remarkable in Australia in 2017 — unfortunately, Gottliebsen’s warning appears to be bearing fruit, as rotten as that fruit might become when the refrigerator goes off.

    The current reality of the Prime Minister trying to manage the continuation of one power plant — AGL’s Liddell coal-fired plant in NSW — is absurd.

    Surely, he can depute to his Environment Minister, Josh Frydenberg, or to key officials negotiations to keep the plant open for another five years.

    What Turnbull needs to be doing as our leader is to develop a clear, transparent energy policy which he can deliver his government behind.

    Only a credible plan will encourage investors in Australia to resume spending on energy.

    Currently, it’s as if there’s a strike of capital — nobody wants to invest in anything new because the rules seem to be changing by the day.

    The government appears to be in a state of chaos on energy policy — because it is.

    More generally, the opinion polls continue to slowly bury Malcolm Turnbull — each month another shovel full of soil is dug out of his political grave.

    He did, of course, set opinion polls as the benchmark for his coup against Tony Abbott.

    There is one glimmer of hope for Malcolm Turnbull.

    In almost every poll, he rates significantly above Bill Shorten as preferred Prime Minister.

    Nonetheless, the government faces being swept decisively from power on current trends.

    In the next twelve weeks, we’ll know the result of the same-sex marriage survey and whether the national government can come up with an energy policy.

    And when we know these, we’ll also know whether Malcolm Turnbull will be Prime Minister come Australia Day next year.

  161. cohenite

    BrettW

    #2496579, posted on September 13, 2017 at 3:03 pm

    Check out the Daily Mail story about ALP Senator Louise Pratt, a lesbian mother of a 3 year old, and her rainbow family of three Dads ( a trans man and two gay males, one of whom is the father).

    Janet Rice sounds like fun too:

    Greens senator Janet Rice – who married her transgender wife Penny 30 years ago when she was Peter – said she wanted to be able to hold her partner’s hand in public, the way they used to, without fear of abuse.

    We used to hold hands, we used to kiss in public but over the last 13 years we self-censor,” she told parliament.

    I should fucking hope so. This society has had every rock overturned in the last decade. It’s odd the things now out and about and proud of their weird little dangly bits and proclivities while at the same time there is increasing dampening of social discourse about things which upset said dangly bits. It’s a new paradigm folks.

  162. Senile Old Guy

    The senator, who is gay, fought back tears today during a debate on the new laws, which make it an offence for people to vilify, intimidate or threaten others based on their sexual orientation or religious views. She recounted her own “rainbow family’s” brush with the ‘No’ campaign at her local shops last week, saying they should not have been subjected to the kind of material they were handed. “I was down the local shop with members of my own rainbow family, just doing the shopping for the evening meal, when they were handed an anti-marriage equality pamphlet,” she told the upper house. “The pamphlet is too hurtful to repeat here.”

    Convenient. It means we don’t get to read the pamphlet and judge for ourselves how “hurtful” it was. And a senator can be brought to tears by a pamphlet; and she’s voting about our laws.

    Senator Pratt noted the proposed safeguards, which were drafted in negotiations between the Coalition and Labor, would not be able to prevent all of the hurtful debate her family and other LGBTI Australians would be subjected to over coming weeks. “We shouldn’t have to listen to this debate about the status of our families and our children,” she said. “My child should not be subject to debates about his family and his parents.

    Then don’t listen to them. If someone hands you a pamphlet refuse to take it or toss it.

    “And sadly this legislation can only go so far in protecting us. Pamphlets like the one my family received will continue to be distributed through the course of this debate within the rules that it allows for.”

    Yes, it’s a free country; or it used to be.

    We are supposed to submit to a great social change but not discuss it because some people will have their feelings hurt?

  163. Sparkx

    ‘It was too hurtful’: Labor senator describes her shock at being handed a ‘No’ vote

    Pratt by name………………………

  164. Myrddin Seren

    Some transgender women who have had reassignment surgery play in Victorian leagues,

    ‘Some’ plural ?

    while others who have played TAC Cup have become transgender women.

    Others ? More plural ??

    And this is merely one ( albeit large ) sporting code in one state of not very populous country Australia ???

    Is there something in the water supply ? The French bomb tests in the Pacific ? Aluminium cans and plastic food wrap ? Aliens ?? Zool ???

    What the hell is going on ? How can this not be an explosion compared to even a couple of decades ago ?

  165. John64

    Labor senator describes her shock at being handed a ‘No’ vote pamphlet while down at the shops with her son and his three fathers.

    I didn’t think the Louise Pratt Freak Show could have got any weirder but I was sadly mistaken.

    She obviously didn’t spend the two and a bit years that she was punted from the Senate thanks to Joe Bullock just sitting in the lounge chair knitting kangaroos ……….

  166. OldOzzie

    Flapping in the Breeze – trying to work out which way to turn Lord Waffles of Wentworth Turdbeull “The Incompetent”

    Malcolm Turnbull changes tack on clean energy amid backbench pressure

    Malcolm Turnbull has vowed to make baseload power a key part of any clean energy target in a clear signal the government’s new policy will include power from coal and gas, as he comes under pressure from backbenchers to avoid new subsidies for renewable power.

    The Prime Minister told parliament the ability to “dispatch” power to the electricity grid would have to be “built in” to the scheme to make it effective, a key factor that weighs against wind and solar farms.

    Mr Turnbull sent the new message in response to a series of Labor questions on whether or not he would adopt the clean energy target recommended by chief scientist Alan Finkel in a report to government last June.

    The Australian reported today that a significant group of Coalition MPs will not support a clean energy target because it inherently favours renewables over fossil fuels using a structure that encourages power sources with the least carbon emissions.

    Mr Turnbull emphasised the objectives of reducing power prices and improving reliability in his answers in parliament.

    “The fact of the matter is this: a clean energy target depends entirely on its design, but if it is to be effective at delivering not just a reduction in emissions but affordability and reliability, it has to have built into it measures which support dispatchability, which support baseload power, which support affordability and reliability,” he said.

    “It’s not an easy nut to crack. We’ve only recently had detailed advice from AEMO which shocked many people, particularly on the Labor side.

    “So we’re working through it. We’re going through it very, very carefully.

    “We are not going to make the same glib mistakes the Labor Party did, the price of which is being paid by Australian families and businesses today.”

    Mr Turnbull made no commitment to a clean energy target and said the “dispatchability” of power was a key requirement.

    The most “dispatchable” power comes from gas-fired generators that can be fired up quickly or coal-fired power stations that are kept running at most times of the day, rather than solar or wind farms that are subject to the weather or the time of day.

    Another form of “dispatchable” power is hydro-electric energy, but the government expects the expansion of the Snowy Hydro project to take at least six years before it can produce additional energy.

  167. Gunner, I think it’s prudent to wait until the court cases of Eric Clanton and Kyle Chapman are resolved before drawing conclusions. It doesn’t look good for either of them though.

  168. notafan

    Thank you Sparkz

    Gay marriage doesn’t affect you is another stock standard along with love is love and inevitable.

    What right have they to say what affects others

    Stamps foot, flounces off in huff.

  169. notafan

    Nothing like seeing two young faux* lesbians hold hands in public.

    The looks on their faces.

    Priceless

    * faux, because highly suspect, even though, as everybody knows, same sex attraction, unlike heterosexuality is fixed, they will be married to men in their thirties.

  170. OldOzzie

    Christmas Island asylum-seeker tragedy handled properly by border authorities, court finds

    Family members of dozens of asylum-seekers killed or injured when their boat smashed into Christmas Island have had their legal case against the Federal Government overwhelmingly rejected by the NSW Supreme Court, which found border authorities had handled the tragedy properly.

    The group of eight families sued the federal government over the December 2010 incident, in which 50 Iranian and Iraqi asylum-seekers were killed, alleging it had failed to fulfil its duty of care by failing to intercept the arrivals before their boat was destroyed and because two government rescue vessels in the area were not seaworthy.

    Justice Geoff Bellew found in favour of the Commonwealth in almost every one of 18 questions raised by the case, finding the government owed no duty of care to the asylum seekers who had undertaken the journey of their own accord, and that the unseaworthy vessels could not have been used in the rescue because they were too small for the prevailing weather conditions.

    Led by lawyer George Newhouse, the families alleged the government should have known the vessel, known as SIEV 221 — for Suspected Illegal Entry Vessel — was in Australian waters and facing potential danger and that the government’s HMAS Pirie should have intercepted it.

    At the time of the incident HMAS Pirie was nearby but was keeping watch over SIEV 220, another asylum seeker vessel it had intercepted hours earlier.

    SIEV 220 was intercepted on the 14 December and SIEV 221, a “primitive wooden vessel” which had sailed from Indonesia, was spotted of the coast of Christmas Island in the early hours of 15 December and subsequently observed to be in distress before striking into cliffs.

    Justice Bellew found the commanding officer of HMAS Pirie executed “well founded, responsible and proper discharge” of his duties in staying in proximity to SIEV 220.

    “On the information which was made available to him at about 06:00 on 15 December 2010, Commander Livingstone did not know, nor did he have reason to suspect, that SIEV 221 was in distress,” he said.

    “The evidence did not support a conclusion that even if the HMAS Pirie had relinquished its position in proximity to SIEV 220 and had undertaken a patrol further to the north of Christmas Island it would have detected SIEV 221 and been able to intercept it.”

    The eight families had sought damages for physical or psychological injuries suffered by the victims, the loss of victims’ material possessions and psychological injury of the relatives of the SIEV 221 passengers.

    Justice Bellew found the government had not put the asylum seekers at any risk of harm, that it did not direct the vessel to navigate to Australia, did not control the weather, did not know anything about the skill of those operating the vessel and had “no control over the primitive nature of the vessel”.

    “The Commonwealth did not create that risk, and did not, by its actions, make it worse,” he said.

    “Those on board could have protected themselves simply by not undertaking the voyage in the first place.”

    The Federal Government has previously said the legal action, defended at taxpayers’ expense, “beggars belief” and it was a “shameful and offensive claim”.

    The government has said those making the claims against the nation’s border forces “have to be held accountable for those claims”.

    Mr Newhouse was being sought for comment.

    From The Comments

    – What we really need to know is which lawyers or law firms mounted this ridiculous case – and how deep are the snouts in the legal trough.

    – I really think that in all cases where plaintiff lawyers know that their clients cannot pay costs awarded against them, the lawyers themselves should be forced to pony up.

    It won’t stop strong cases from being litigated-nor should it.

    That said I won’t hold my breath waiting for reform-all those PI lawyers hold way too much suasion in the corridors of power.

    – Newhouse – just another ambulance chaser after a buck – who wears the costs for this failed exercise? You and me I bet

    – Newhouse obviously thought he was on for a quick buck. It is about time ambulance chasing lawyers were prosecuted for wasting Court time.

    – And the cost to long suffering taxpayers …is……?

    – Can the Government’s costs in defending this vexatious action be claimed off the Ambulance Chaser Lawyer who brought the case ?

  171. notafan

    Aw Monty I thought you were here because you are a masochist.

  172. Myrddin Seren

    Greens senator Janet Rice – who married her transgender wife Penny

    Penny

    Penelope Whetton is a climatologist and an expert in regional climate change projections due to global warming and in the impacts of those changes.

    But of course….

  173. Sparkx

    That was a very fetching flounce Nota. I’m impressed.

  174. stackja

    FIRE BANS: 75 BLAZES UNDER WATCH, TEMPS HIT 33C
    Sally Rawsthorne, The Daily Telegraph
    9 minutes ago

    Meanwhile in Sydney, former prime minister Tony Abbott has joined dozens of firefighters battling to re-contain a blaze at Beacon Hill, in Sydney’s northern suburbs, as temperatures hit the 30s and huge wind gusts threaten to fan dangerous fire spots this afternoon.

    Tony Abbott on the ground at Beacon Hill, in Sydney’s northern suburbs, today. Picture: John Grainger

  175. Geriatric Mayfly

    little dangly bits and proclivities

    Did you mean ‘declivities’ Cohenite?

  176. If I self identify as a brown, transgender, homosexual, muslim-irish immigrant that votes NAY, can I still be prosecuted for hate speech?

  177. notafan

    I swished my petticoats and everything Sparkz

    It was very Gone with the Wind.

    Reminds me when my sister and I visited a grand palazzo in Genoa

    She spontaneouly took the opportunity to make a fine entrance into the ballroom via the grand staircase, imaginary hoop dress held up and fan afluttering.

    Very funny.

  178. Myrddin Seren

    Another form of “dispatchable” power is hydro-electric energy, but the government expects the expansion of the Snowy Hydro project to take at least six years before it can produce additional energy.

    Happy to stand corrected, but my understanding is that Snowy Turnbull is pumped storage. Not one watt of additional energy will be produced – it will be a nett loss. It just attempts to cover the breaks when the wind don’t blow and the sun don’t shine. #FakeNews

  179. Tailgunner

    Monty-is Based Stickman up on more charges? He got off the ones from awhile ago… Got any links?
    Chappy fights outnumbered and with opponents on their feet, your man Eric goes for unarmed, unaware foes from behind a phalanx of Trigglypuffs or dudes that are sitting down.
    Spot the difference…

  180. Sparkx

    Thanks for that mental picture Nota.LOL

  181. Ez

    Yes, trans ‘women’, plural:

    The woman in question rose through the junior ranks of football as a boy, then represented Australia in another sport before becoming a woman.

    …As a former elite athlete who only recently went back to football, she is available for the national draft or as a category B rookie.

    …The woman has a manager, a reputation as a midfielder who kicks long goals and a vocal supporter in Shepparton’s Emily Rowe, who spoke to the Herald Sun as one of the first openly transgender women in local football.

    Amazing this ‘woman’ (sic) has pace in the mid-field and is able to kick “long goals” – in a women’s league. LOL!

  182. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    BREAKING:

    Israel Folau is going to be jailed.

    Wallabies star Israel Folau says he will not support gay marriage, sparking a Twitter backlash just 24 hours after the ARU joined several sporting codes in backing the “yes” campaign.

    Folau tweeted: “I love and respect all people for who they are and their opinions. but personally, I will not support gay marriage.”

    What a great man he is.

  183. stackja

    WALLABIES STAR ISRAEL FOLAU TWEETS HIS OPPOSITION TO SAME-SEX MARRIAGE
    The Daily Telegraph
    27 minutes ago

    ISRAEL Folau has voiced his opposition to same-sex marriage in the same week the ARU came out in support of the ‘yes’ campaign in the upcoming postal survey.

    Folau, a devout Christian, tweeted on Wednesday afternoon “I love and respect all people for who they are and their opinions. but personally, I will not support gay marriage.”

  184. stackja

    Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)
    #2496645, posted on September 13, 2017 at 4:06 pm

    Yes!

  185. GerardO

    If I ever post nrop here, it’s my intern’s fault.

  186. Yeah well Gunner, whoever that bicycle lock dude was, he was a criminal who should be locked up. As to whether it was Clanton or not, that remains to be decided by the courts. 4chan has got things wrong before, spectacularly.

    Chapman’s in a world of hurt. As for Based Stickman, I don’t care to waste energy googling him, but I did hear he had a court order on him not to wield sticks in public. So I guess his new nickname should be Based Stickless.

  187. lotocoti

    Note to that Wong chap: Child accessorised homosexual partnerships are not normal.

  188. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Bill‏ @billyography 2h2 hours ago
    More
    Replying to @IzzyFolau
    I respect the belief but why would you feel the need to actively state it? Could just keep it to yourself.

    Oh that’s rich. FFS these people are horrendous.

  189. Tailgunner

    Yeah well Gunner, whoever that bicycle lock dude was, he was a criminal who should be locked up

    Monty disavows antifa! Excellent… Now on to Communist atrocities under Stalin, May, Pol Pot, et al…

  190. Ez

    Bill‏ @billyography 2h2 hours ago
    More
    Replying to @IzzyFolau
    I respect the belief but why would you feel the need to actively state it? Could just keep it to yourself.

    He tweeted that same line to Ian Thorpe.
    Wait.. no? Sorry.

  191. Andrew

    A tiger has been shot dead after a man who climbed a fence into the tiger enclosure to avoid paying for a ticket was mauled to death at a zoo in eastern China.

    Can’t see how shooting it after killing the man helps. Unless it’s as a warning to the others. Darwin would be proud though. Who climbs into the tiger pen to save a RMB50 entry??

  192. 4BC reporting on the backlash against Israel Folau who is a devout Christian.

    More No voters created by the No campaign activists.

    Will the ABC guy (O Brian) be asking Yes campaigners if no longer support the Wallabies ?

  193. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Should the law be changed to allow same-sex couples to marry?

    So it’s just a single page, with a barcode at the bottom. You have no way of telling if the barcode maps back to you or is simply unique. Are they merely scanning for duplicate barcodes, allowing one to request multiple forms (“I didn’t get my letter!”); or can the form be traced back to the named addressee? Your name and address is on the covering letter, which does state you cannot be identified. Perhaps some sort of hashing is involved?

    It also has contact details to obtain a replacement form, presumably if your brain fights with your hand over which box to mark. Perhaps they shall at least limit how many replacement forms they send you. 🙂

    The reply address for me is Dandenong South, not too far from me.

  194. Wallabies star Israel Folau says he will not support gay marriage

    Brave man.
    Kudos.

  195. H B Bear

    Penny

    Penelope Whetton is a climatologist and an expert in regional climate change projections due to global warming and in the impacts of those changes

    Penny’s grip on reality clearly isn’t limited to having his fruit’n’veg in a jar on the bookshelf.

  196. lotocoti
    #2496651, posted on September 13, 2017 at 4:10 pm
    Note to that Wong chap: Child accessorised homosexual partnerships are not normal.

    I assume this statement is now illegal under the Brandis/Wong dictatorship?

  197. Myrddin Seren

    Wallabies star Israel Folau says he will not support gay marriage

    Career over and out…

  198. H B Bear

    WALLABIES STAR ISRAEL FOLAU TWEETS HIS OPPOSITION TO SAME-SEX MARRIAGE

    He will probably lose his GAYFL licence for that one.

  199. Boambee John

    Tom at 1455

    Ms. Swain, a former professor of political science and law at Vanderbilt University, is author of “The New White Nationalism in America: Its Challenge to Integration.”

    A very good book, worth chasing up.

  200. H B Bear

    It was too hurtful’: Labor senator describes her shock at being handed a ‘No’ vote pamphlet while down at the shops with her son and his three fathers

    The Australian Senate now more closely resembles The Jerry Springer Show than a representative democracy.

  201. This just in on Cory Bernardi’s weekly mailout:

    The first of these is about ‘protections’ to make hurt feelings an offence during the debate on redefining marriage. This was rushed into the senate this morning and within hours passed with little critical examination – but with plenty of emotional and self-serving stories over how nasty the debate has been.

    Unlike most, I chose to question the government over some contents of the bill and frankly wasn’t satisfied with the answers.

    Firstly, it overturns the people’s right to access the legal system by requiring their complaint to be first approved by the Attorney-General, who coincidentally is a cheerleader for the rainbow brigade.

    Secondly, the Minister was unable to explain whether it would be an offence to share (via social media) pre-existing and previously published images, videos or other material that doesn’t comply with the new rules.

    This could potentially impact millions of people and so I have been forced to write to him seeking an answer.

    Does anyone know the actual details of this? I can’t believe that something like this could be passed. Well, I can believe it but I can’t, if you know what I mean.

  202. stackja

    Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)
    #2496652, posted on September 13, 2017 at 4:10 pm

    Bill
    @billyography
    Gym, music, video games. Occasional @twitch streamer, @mindfreakpro cinematographer & world explorer.
    Gold Coast, Queensland

  203. Andrew

    So mOron is proud that he got likes from left wing extremists that he was grovelling to and addressed the grovelling tweets to? Wow, massive achievement.

    Do you think it’s appropriate for YAM (pbuh) to build a career trolling the right while not only being employed by the taxpayer in a nominally centre-right govt but actually engaged by the Dept of Foreign Affairs to REPRESENT said govt? (Hint: Since you have no moral compass and judge issues like sexual violence solely by the SIDE of the victim, it may be easier if you picture Bolt666 taking a job at DFAT in a Green-ALP coalition govt and then going the full Breitbart.)

  204. cohenite

    Geriatric Mayfly

    #2496635, posted on September 13, 2017 at 4:00 pm

    little dangly bits and proclivities

    Did you mean ‘declivities’ Cohenite?

    I really don’t know. I used to support viva la difference but society now reminds me of this:

  205. Baldrick

    Dear Baldrick,

    It’s been a chaotic couple of days in the Senate and there’s no sign of that changing this week!

    The usual argy-bargy over procedure and process continues but it is the legislative agenda that is worthy of comment.

    Specifically there are two bills that have failed the common sense test.

    The first of these is about ‘protections’ to make hurt feelings an offence during the debate on redefining marriage. This was rushed into the senate this morning and within hours passed with little critical examination – but with plenty of emotional and self-serving stories over how nasty the debate has been.

    Unlike most, I chose to question the government over some contents of the bill and frankly wasn’t satisfied with the answers.

    Firstly, it overturns the people’s right to access the legal system by requiring their complaint to be first approved by the Attorney-General, who coincidentally is a cheerleader for the rainbow brigade.

    Secondly, the Minister was unable to explain whether it would be an offence to share (via social media) pre-existing and previously published images, videos or other material that doesn’t comply with the new rules.

    This could potentially impact millions of people and so I have been forced to write to him seeking an answer.

    As ill-considered as the bill was, the passage of an earlier bill should really ring alarm bells.

    In their perceived wisdom, the government have sought to comply with their international climate change agreements by making some common ousehold items more expensive.

    Right now, they have targeted the leaf blower, weed-whacker, lawnmower and outboard motor with expensive new emissions standards.

    It’s a kind of carbon tax that can be extended to any motorised device at the whim of a Minister.

    That means a Minister can apply the new carbon tax onto your chainsaw, motorbike, generator, car or tractor at any time. I’d suggest the new rules are only just the beginning … and there is next to nothing we can do about it.

    Should that occur, it has been estimated that the cost of an average new car would rise by around $5,000. That’s the real price of this stealth carbon tax imposed by green zealots, to worship at the altar of global warming.

    Whilst we see foolish things all the time, given how much hot air and political capital that has been expended on the carbon tax over the years, it is amazing that this passed the parliament with virtually no objection.

    Labor, Liberal, Greens, National and One Nation parties all stated they supported the bill.

    I’m pleased to say I didn’t, but regret that I couldn’t stop it.

    Two ill-considered government laws in just two days. Who knows just how many there are still in the pipeline?

    What I want you to know is that I’ll be doing my best to amend, fix or stop those bills that fail the common sense test.

    Until next week,
    Cory Bernardi

  206. Philippa Martyr

    Dear Baldrick,

    It’s been a chaotic couple of days in the Senate and there’s no sign of that changing this week!

    That’s so cute. Dear Baldrick.

  207. Boambee John

    Tailgunner
    #2496610, posted on September 13, 2017 at 3:34 pm
    173!!
    Has Montel disavowed Eric Clanton yet?!

    In your dreams. m0nty never, never, breaks faith with the left.

  208. lotocoti

    I assume this statement is now illegal under the Brandis/Wong dictatorship?

    Presumably, despite being accurate.

  209. Right now, they have targeted the leaf blower, weed-whacker, lawnmower and outboard motor with expensive new emissions standards.

    My partner of 5 years (Red Leafblower) are the subject to discrimination by the government.

  210. Baldrick

    My bullshit meter is off the scale …

    Kevin Rudd ✔ @MrKRudd
    So many warnings to Turnbull about what the postal vote cld unleash. Now my godson Sean has been punched standing up for #MarriageEquality

    Still, I await further details.

  211. Baldrick

    That’s so cute. Dear Baldrick.

    He can call me anything he likes, as long as it’s not late for dinner.😸

  212. Now my godson Sean has been punched standing up for #MarriageEquality

    Was his job and career also threatened with extinction? A car bomb let off at the front of his house? His business sent into bankruptcy?
    Proof please Mr Irrelevance.

  213. my godson Sean …

    That would be Sean Lamb?

  214. stackja

    Baldrick
    #2496679, posted on September 13, 2017 at 4:36 pm
    My bullshit meter is off the scale …

    Kevin Rudd ✔ @MrKRudd
    So many warnings to Turnbull about what the postal vote cld unleash. Now my godson Sean has been punched standing up for #MarriageEquality

    Still, I await further details.

    godson Sean? What god?

    Godparent
    From Wikipedia,
    A godparent (also known as a sponsor), in many denominations of Christianity, is someone who bears witness to a child’s baptism, although the term has also been used in a legal sense.

  215. H B Bear

    The Ghost of KRuddmas Past reappears. Please just FOAD.

    Thanks.

  216. Boambee John

    m0nty
    #2496621, posted on September 13, 2017 at 3:47 pm
    Gunner, I think it’s prudent to wait until the court cases of Eric Clanton and Kyle Chapman are resolved before drawing conclusions. It doesn’t look good for either of them though.

    Did you wait until Cottrell’s court case was completed?

  217. Silly me, I though Kev might be a closet lumberjack.

  218. Roger

    Does anyone know the actual details of this? I can’t believe that something like this could be passed. Well, I can believe it but I can’t, if you know what I mean.

    Here you go.

  219. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Is Kevin still married to that large woman?

    Don’t hear much about Australia’s creepiest couple these days.

  220. Baldrick

    More on Kevni’s ‘godson'(?) here:

    ATTENTION: we need YOUR HELP to identify a man who unleashed a violent homophobic attack yesterday in Bulimba. As you know, our rainbow flags were ripped down from the Oxford St roundabout, but much worse, we just found out that a young local man was assaulted when confronting the perpetrator pulling down the flags.
    The perpetrator was yelling:
    You know what I hate? faggots!
    I hate fucking faggots!
    He then looked straight at the young man (who was waiting for his bus) and said:
    I hate fucking faggots!
    So the young man said:
    That’s ok, I don’t like you.
    Perp: did you just call me a homophobe?
    Young man: yup.
    He then walked over to where the young man was sitting and from his standing position of 6’2, he punched the young man from below, striking his head, throwing his head back, and then walked off.
    No one at the bus stop did anything!!!
    PLEASE help us identify this man. He is described as Caucasian, about 185cm, grey hair, short on side and longer on the top. He has a stubbly grey beard. He was wearing a greeny yellow stripped button up, short sleeved shirt, with khaki shorts. He was quite large with a beer belly.
    If you saw him along Oxford St or you were at the roundabout or bus stop (Riding RD) yesterday morning, please contact me with any details. Anything could help us!! This man is dangerous and must be found.

    Nope, it’s still reading off the scale.

  221. PLEASE help us identify this man. He is described as Caucasian, about 185cm, grey hair, short on side and longer on the top. He has a stubbly grey beard. He was wearing a greeny yellow stripped button up, short sleeved shirt, with khaki shorts. He was quite large with a beer belly.

    Anyone know what Mick Trumble was doing at the time?

  222. Roger

    Replying to @IzzyFolau
    I respect the belief but why would you feel the need to actively state it? Could just keep it to yourself.

    The new love that dare not speak its name: heterosexuality.

  223. Boambee John

    m0nty
    #2496649, posted on September 13, 2017 at 4:08 pm
    Yeah well Gunner, whoever that bicycle lock dude was, he was a criminal who should be locked up.

    Congratulations m0nty, that wasn’t so difficult was it?

  224. stackja

    Roger
    #2496688, posted on September 13, 2017 at 4:47 pm

    Thank you.

    Part 3—Obligations on broadcasters

    11 Obligations on broadcasters to give reasonable opportunities to broadcast opposing views
    Requirement to give reasonable opportunities to broadcast opposing views
    (1) Clause 3 of Schedule 2 to the Broadcasting Services Act 1992 applies as if, subject to subclause (2), subclause 3(2) of that Schedule required a broadcaster that, during the limitation period, broadcasts marriage law survey matter expressing a view in relation to the marriage law survey question to give a reasonable opportunity, to a representative of an organisation that holds an opposite view in relation to the question, to broadcast marriage law survey matter during that period.
    Exception to requirement
    (2) Subsection (1) does not apply in relation to a broadcaster that:
    (a) has been allocated a community radio broadcasting licence under Part 6 or 6A of the Broadcasting Services Act 1992; or
    (b) holds a class licence determined under Part 8 of that Act (subscription broadcasting and narrowcasting class licence);
    that represents:
    (c) a religious community interest; or
    (d) a community interest that includes a gay and lesbian community interest.
    References to clause 3 of Schedule 2
    (3) Paragraphs 7(1)(j), 8(1)(i), 9(1)(i), 10(1)(i) and 11(1)(d) of Schedule 2, and paragraph 24(1)(a) and subclause 24(4) of Schedule 6, to the Broadcasting Services Act 1992 apply as if references in those provisions to clause 3 of Schedule 2 to that Act included references to that clause as it applies in relation to the marriage law survey process.

    ABC does not seem to be excluded.

  225. Mother Lode

    ALP Senator Louise Pratt, a lesbian mother of a 3 year old, and her rainbow family of three Dads ( a trans man and two gay males, one of whom is the father).

    Just goes to show you how much the ALP has changed.

    They started as a party created by a power base – the unions.

    The unions began to wither and die, so the party (wishing not to suffer the same fate) detached itself and looked for another power base – freaks.

    The party has fed so exclusively on freaks that it has taken on their nature such that the name is as much an anomaly as the Libs still calling themselves liberal. Or conservative, for that matter.

    WTF would Muzzies want to attack Parliament House? If they want to destroy Australia their smartest move would be to just sit and wait.

  226. stackja

    ABC and SBS to give a reasonable opportunity to broadcast opposing views
    (4) If, during the limitation period, the ABC broadcasts marriage law survey matter expressing a view in relation to the marriage law survey question, the Australian Broadcasting Corporation Act 1983 applies as if that Act required the ABC to give a reasonable opportunity, to a representative of an organisation that holds an opposite view in relation to the question, to broadcast marriage law survey matter during that period.
    (5) If, during the limitation period, the SBS broadcasts marriage law survey matter expressing a view in relation to the marriage law survey question, the Special Broadcasting Service Act 1991 applies as if that Act required the SBS to give a reasonable opportunity, to a representative of an organisation that holds an opposite view in relation to the question, to broadcast marriage law survey matter during that period.
    (6) Subsection (5) does not require the SBS to broadcast any matter free of charge.

  227. Des Deskperson

    Here’s an interesting example of proposed affirmative action in a public sector organisation:

    http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/defence-force-experience-desirable-the-push-to-get-more-veterans-in-the-act-public-service-20170912-gyg3an.html

    As the report states, “The ACT Public Service could soon flag certain job vacancies with “defence force experience desirable” as the territory government looks to help more veterans settle back into civilian life. ”

    Generally speaking, I don’t think this is a good idea. For one reason or other, the public service tends to attract the mediocrities or worse of the ex-ADF – Andrew Wilkie is exhibit A – many of whom have been forced to retire because they failed to reach a certain rank before they reached a certain age. Once in, they recruit their mates, most of whom are equally useless.

    On the other hand, the ACT public service performs so poorly that these people might still be an asset.

    The motives of the ACT Green/Labor government here escape me, Green/labor are not normally sympathetic to ex-ADF. Votes, I guess.

  228. Anyone know what Mick Trumble was doing at the time?

    No answers. So no alibi eh Mick?

  229. Carbon Emitter

    ‘The Deplorable Barking Toad
    #2496577, posted on September 13, 2017 at 2:57 pm
    received my poof survey form in the post today
    has been returned with a big X in the right hand side box’

    Ditto

  230. Roger,

    You’re the man.

    Baldrick,

    What probably really happened with Kevni’s godson:

    Godson standing on crowded road with rainbow flag.
    White male wearing some kind of workwear attempts to get past the campaigners blocking the footpath.
    Kevni’s godson is slightly jostled as the man attempts to get past. The man bumps into godson’s lower arm.
    Godson drops flag, clutches face, and falls to the ground wailing inconsolably.

    Kind of similar to a car being driven at “top speed” into a crowd I would say.

  231. Tailgunner

    Israel has FU $$.
    Olympic level trolling.
    Now on Waffen SSM kill list.
    Proles get woke.
    Alinsky’s Rules. It’s all in there, folks.

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