Wednesday Forum: September 13, 2017

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  1. Just dropping in briefly to let you all know I’ll be giving a free talk entitled:
    Afghan Adventures: A Western Christian Living and Working in an Arab Muslim Country
    to the Illawarra Sub Branch of the NSW National Serviceman’s Association who have kindly opened it up to interested parties.

    If you can make it, I’d love to see you there.

    Date:
    Sunday 24 September 2017

    Time:
    11.15am

    Venue:
    The Auditorium
    Diggers Club
    Church Street
    WOLLONGONG NSW

  2. Snoopy

    According to Chris Kenny, the SAS soldier who has been pursued and investigated for years by the AFP for removing hands from dead jihadis in Afghanistan has been cleared.

  3. 2dogs

    Don’t be so optimistic, as pendulums don’t always swing back. The trend can keep going.

    One statistic to be borne in mind here is that atheism as percentage of the world’s population is declining. While in raw numbers they are increasing, the world’s religious are increasing much faster.

    The “no nations, no borders” crowd should be careful what they wish for. If they get their one world government, democratic elections would return social conservatives.

  4. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    If you can make it, I’d love to see you there.

    Ricardo, I’m assuming there will be a guest posting on this site?

  5. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    According to Chris Kenny, the SAS soldier who has been pursued and investigated for years by the AFP for removing hands from dead jihadis in Afghanistan has been cleared.

    Snoopy, I’m a subscriber, but I can’t find that article?

  6. harrys on the boat

    Has Timmy at the HRC gone after Folau yet for a hate crime?

  7. Harlequin Decline

    Riccardo Bosi
    #2497010, posted on September 13, 2017 at 11:31 pm

    Would like to be there but unfortunately I’m not back in Sydney until later in the month. Look forward to any posting on the topic.

  8. srr

    SpermJacking (Guest Video by Barbara4u2c)
    Computing Forever

  9. Bruce in WA

    Sea shepherd still doing good work this time in timor

    Fucking pirates and should be treated as such.

  10. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Fucking pirates and should be treated as such.

    Hanged from the yardarm was the appropriate penalty?

  11. Snoopy

    I can’t help, Zulu. I’m not a subscriber.

  12. Bruce in WA

    Hanged from the yardarm was the appropriate penalty?

    I’d prefer a Phalanx CIWS 20mm.

    But I’m not precious about it 🙂

  13. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/andrew-hasties-sas-soldier-cleared-over-severed-taliban-hands/news-story/be05a8534f41c8af7a02b3b5bc411aff

    My compliments and thank you.

    As a very young Two Alpha, I served with veterans of the British Army, in Malaya during the Emergency, who had to carry the bodies of the late, lamented, Communist Terrorists back to Headquarters to be formally identified, and crossed off the list. It wasn’t the most fun to be had…

  14. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    NATIONAL AFFAIRS
    Lionel Murphy to be vindicated by release of documents, Junie Morosi vows

    The Australian
    12:00AM September 14, 2017

    @primroseriordan
    Brad Norington
    Associate Editor
    @BradNorington

    Decades after the tumultuous days of the Whitlam government when their lives were engulfed in scandal, Junie Morosi wishes her close friend Lionel Murphy were alive to see the release today of thousands of documents that could help answer unresolved questions about his conduct as a High Court judge.

    The 84-year-old former Labor staffer, who shot to national prominence after an affair with former deputy prime minister Jim Cairns, hopes that the “brilliant” Murphy, whom she knew as Gough ­Whitlam’s ­attorney-general before his ­appointment to the bench, will be vindicated.

    “I think it would have been ­really great if he would have lived to see himself vindicated,” she said yesterday.

    But Mr Murphy’s son, Cameron Murphy, hit out yesterday at what he described as the “grossly unfair” release of “never tested” allegations.

    Ms Morosi and Lionel Murphy endured a storm of attention in the 1970s over ­allegations he asked ACT minister Gordon Bryant for favourable treatment for Ms ­Morosi in ­obtaining low-cost government employee housing.

    It was an early scandal, the first of many for Murphy that would climax in 1986 with two trials on charges of attempting to pervert the course of justice, his acquittal, and then a further parliamentary commission of inquiry called by the Hawke government when fresh allegations surfaced about Murphy’s conduct.

    That inquiry was shut down early when it was revealed that Murphy had only a matter of months to live. The allegations — including one that Murphy tried to bribe a federal police officer — have remained secret for 30 years by law until today when all related documents, previously marked “Class A” confidential, are due to be ­tabled in federal parliament.

    Ms Morosi said it was a shame Murphy was not alive to see his name cleared. “It is pretty common knowledge that they really were out to get him,” she said. “They seemed to be pretty spurious allegations — that’s how I see it.

    She described Murphy as one of her “best friends” in Canberra. When she first arrived in the national capital in 1974 she captured media attention as a staffer to Cairns, who admitted in 2002 to having an affair with her.

    From the Oz. For Pedro the Ignorant . FMS, I thought Junie Morosi was dead a long time ago…

  15. I’d like to see the players, like Israel Folau, give the ARU and NRL an ultimatum that they will refrain from playing en masse so long as ARU or NRL use the game as a billboard for either side of the current debate.

  16. Today in Liberalism:

    What kind of society puts a male rapist in a women’s prison? In what nation would it be considered acceptable to put a man convicted of raping two girls into an enclosed space with hundreds of women? In Britain. In 2017.
    Incredibly, Martin Ponting, who was sentenced to life in 1995 for the rape of two girls under the age of 16, was recently moved to the all-women prison of Bronzefield in Surrey because he now identifies as a woman and goes by the name of Jessica Winfield. He has now been segregated from the other prisoners at Bronzefield presumably for some serious misdemeanour. (For making advances to women, say sections of the press, though the prison authorities deny this.) To place a rapist among women because he claims to be a woman might prove to be the moment the cult of genderfludity crossed the line from irritating to psychotic.

  17. srr

    Of course I’m 100% with Carl Benjamin (Sargon of Akkad), on this, and I’m even having my doubts about PewDiePie being the genuine article, i.e. ‘just a popular live streaming gamer who gets unjustly targeted by the internet thought police‘, because the bastard keeps folding and ‘justifying’ the bloody online thought police attacking people for, Saying Words! FFS!!! … he strikes me more as someone set up from the get go, to gradually gather and ‘turna large mass of people around to ‘right think‘.

    Anyway, Benjamin also uses live action video, of what this obsessive thought policing over words, does (and is intended to), perpetuate in the real, flesh and bloody world. Take heed all you Stasi-esque Word Nazis, because you do know how it ends when only one side can use fists in a war of words … how do cats put it … escalate, always escalate …

    PewDiePie vs Naggers

    Sargon of Akkad
    Sep 13, 2017
    Local man causes widespread offence among meddling busybodies after total non-event. More at 11.

  18. Mark A

    Some good stuff there Tom, thanks.

  19. Tintarella di Luna

    Thank you Tom for your efforts.

  20. Mark A

    Fergus
    #2497074, posted on September 14, 2017 at 5:36 am

    ABC acting as some sort of dating eervi ce for the hard up, now?
    http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/the-hook-up/vegan-dating/8896114

    Why do vegans look alike?
    Head tilt included?

  21. Fergus

    Not that the pollies ever intended they did.

  22. Sydney Boy

    People are upset because Israel Folau says he will vote NO because of his religious beliefs. But Sonny Bill Williams is “so brave” because he covers up a bank logo on his jersey because of his religious beliefs.

  23. Fergus

    Haven’t seen the quiz but it isn’t a “secret” ballot if it the barcode id is on the same sheet. Was there discussion of secrecy as a proviso?

  24. Bruce of Newcastle

    Knight wins!
    LOL!

  25. rickw

    But this week you and your bunch of pea-brained wannabes voted to outlaw 2-stroke engines.

    Did this really happen?!

  26. Law Professor argues natural parents have no right to the custody, care and education of their own children. That this is something conferred upon them by the state through legislation. Keep this in mind regarding same sex marriage. In Canada, when same-sex marriage was conjured out of thin air, the law replaced the term natural parents with legal parents, with a legal parent being whatever the law says it is; completing writing out of the picture a child’s natural parent.

  27. Sydney Boy

    So in Canada, a man who gets a woman inadvertently pregnant will not be required to pay child support?

  28. notafan

    Clear evidence that vicpol turned a blind eye to serious serial child sex abuse by it’s own.

    Said it before and say it again, societal attitudes to child sex abuse in the sixties and seventies were twisted.

    Avoidance of scandal and lack of concern for victims, sexual revolution?

    You’ll note the depth of depravity, no grooming and pressured coercion, this was rape rape rape


    Derryn Hinch doing his thing

  29. Fergus

    Can anyone out there provide the actual link to the Gov two stroke ban law please.
    They’ll lose more votes over this than anything else!

  30. Tintarella di Luna

    There is not one but two people’s bylines on the story in the Oz, seemingly neither of whom knows how to spell ‘marriage’ if the spell checker isn’t doing it for them.

    The article was in love this sentence in which (I am sure it’s not Michael McKenna) the quality of current j’ism is on display –

    Folau’s comments have also shined the spotlight on the difficulties that can arise when organisations, clubs or businesses take positions on contentious causes, despite individuals within the group holding differing views.

  31. Tintarella di Luna

    OOOOOps – The article was partly incomprehensible but I …..

  32. Baldrick

    According to the lazy-eyed ABC luvvie …

    Adam Spencer ✔ @adambspencer
    Entitled to his view re #SSM but “Folau credits his relationship with God as one of the reasons for his athletic prowess” #Absurd

  33. OldOzzie

    Only in Australia

    Generators scramble for supply as coal exports bite

    Higher prices and rising export demand for coal are squeezing NSW electricity generators at the same time as a domestic gas shortfall on the east coast is pushing power prices sharply higher.

    Coal-fired generators, including AGL’s Bayswater and Liddell plants near Newcastle, have been scrambling to find new sources of thermal coal, with difficulties in securing rail slots adding to tight market conditions.

    Generators said they had been “husbanding” existing supplies for periods of peak demand, rather than use it for baseload generation, until they could secure ­additional supplies.

    “Like every other producer in NSW, AGL’s Macquarie coal-fired power stations have been facing constraints in coal supply,” AGL chief financial officer Brett Redman said. “These constraints are caused by the high level of ­demand for Hunter Valley coal for both domestic and international consumption, as well as logistic challenges in getting coal to stations on a congested rail network.”

    News of the constraints comes amid a gas shortage on the east coast following the start of exports from massive LNG export plants in Queensland that has pushed up the cost of gas for use in generation to smooth peak demand.

    It also comes as the federal government is attempting to shift the priority in the proposed clean energy target towards reliability and allow for the development of new high-efficiency, low-emissions coal-fired plants for a ­national electricity market that is increasingly relying on renewable generation capacity.

    AGL has agreed to a request from Malcolm Turnbull to investigate extending the life of the Liddell plant beyond its scheduled 2022 closure date but has repeatedly emphasised that plans to invest in 1000MW of new wind, solar and hydro generation are a better option.

    The Australian reported yesterday that EnergyAustralia’s Mount Piper power station in eastern NSW, which has an operational life to 2042, was facing a “real risk” of being shut early following legal action launched by green activist group 4nature against planning consent for an extension of the Springvale mine owned by Centennial Coal.

    The NSW Court of Appeal ­upheld the challenge, which related to the quality of water discharged from the mine. The potential closure would take up to 1400MW out of the energy market, or the equivalent of 15 per cent of NSW electricity supply.

    EnergyAustralia managing ­director Catherine Tanna said yesterday the company had a water treatment project ready that would fix the problem. “That project is shovel-ready. It will mean no water is discharged from the mine into river systems,” she said. “The project requires significant investment, but right now it’s in peril while the mine planning consents are unresolved.”

    The state member for Bathurst, Forestry Minister Paul Toole, said: “I have raised these matters at a cabinet level, and whilst we are waiting on the outcome of a court case, there are a number of ­options that are available to the government. One of them is emergency powers to put a stay of execution to actually keep the power station open.

    “But we are not only talking about the power station, we are talking about the coalminers in that area and we are talking about the industries that are related or are associated with mining ­activity in that area.”

    Mr Redman said the tight market conditions had been made worse by the closure of the Hazelwood power station in Victoria in March, with NSW black-coal generators called on to make up the shortfall without an increase in the availability of fuel.

    Australian Energy Council chief executive Matthew Warren said that as existing coal contracts expired or co-located coalmines were exhausted, coal-fired power stations had to compete with passenger and rail freight, as well as long-term export customers, for slots on the state’s rail network.

  34. Mark A

    Baldrick
    #2497103, posted on September 14, 2017 at 7:10 am

    According to the lazy-eyed ABC luvvie …

    Adam Spencer ✔ @adambspencer
    Entitled to his view re #SSM but “Folau credits his relationship with God as one of the reasons for his athletic prowess” #Absurd

    Using yoga or some obscure meditation is fine to improve your performance, but believing that God helps you is not?
    Absurd.

  35. OldOzzie

    Forget 2 strokes used by the masses

    Turdbull Coalition has more important friends

    Superyachts heading to Australia have Coalition slashes taxes

    taxation: The Coalition has succumbed to pressure from the superyacht lobby and will move to increase foreign superyacht charters in Australian waters.

  36. Anthony

    How does limiting free speech protect free speech?

  37. notafan

    Adam Spencer

    Respectfully considering the beliefs of others.

    Yep if Israel was a Buddhist or a Muslims gutless Spencer would have nothing to say but evangelical Christian, giggle.

  38. OldOzzie

    Government intervention will only deepen the energy crisis

    In the former Soviet Union, electricity-generating plants were built with the architectural grandeur of cathedrals, some with stained glass windows. The leader of the Russian Revolution, Vladimir Lenin, saw the electricity grid as the perfect expression of socialism, distributing power to the people through the medium of central planning. “Communism is Soviet power plus the electrification of the whole country,” he said.

    The supply of electricity has always had a heavy element of state control, mainly because the grid is a natural monopoly. Nobody wants multiple wires running down the street. In Australia, it was first nationalised in Tasmania in 1916 and in the rest of the country soon after. Since privatisations in Victoria and South Australia in the 1990s, it has been more intensely regulated than any other industry.

    The National Electricity Market began its life 20 years ago to manage the interconnection of the grids of the eastern and southern states as the functions of electricity generation, distribution and retailing were separated into different corporate entities.

    The NEM is a sophisticated piece of infrastructure enabling about 400 generators to bid to supply electricity to the grid in five-minute blocks, with the operator awarding rights to those offering the cheapest prices.

    Government authorities run the show. A commission sets the rules for the market participants, a regulator enforces them and an operator manages the network, including planning its future needs. Last week’s Electricity Statement of Opportunities, issued by the Australian Energy Market Operator, is the key planning document, detailing the adequacy of the installed and projected capacity to meet projected power demand.

    In the beginning, it worked well, delivering reliable power more cheaply while providing sufficient incentives for investment. A 2005 Productivity Commission report concluded that labour productivity had more than doubled in the decade to 2002 and trebled in Victoria, where the reforms had gone furthest while prices had dropped by about 20 per cent.

    But superimposed on this closely regulated market came other policy imperatives. Retailers were required to fill a portion of their needs from renewable sources. Carbon emissions policy has been in flux for a decade. Gas supplies, a key input for 12 per cent of the market, have been buffeted by bans on fracking and, in the case of Victoria, conventional gas exploration.

    These policies have resulted in the construction of about 2 gigawatts of new renewable power capacity in the past five years but no gas or coal investment whatsoever. In that period, about 2.5GW of coal-fired capacity has been withdrawn. Prices have soared as supply to the market gets tighter, but it has not been enough to encourage any new investment in reliable power, coal-fired or the more flexible gas-fired generation. No gas or coal investment is on the horizon.

    The NEM worked well while it was dealing only with coal, gas and a bit of hydro power but it has struggled with the rise of unreliable solar and wind renewables. When they are working, they can always supply the cheapest power as there is no marginal cost for them to operate. Gas and particularly coal-fired power are most efficient when there is steady uninterrupted demand, so making way for intermittent renewables pushes up their average costs.

    Other countries are wrestling with the same problems as climate change policies force greater adoption of intermittent renewable sources. As a new report from the Grattan Institute notes, Britain, France, Ireland and several US states are paying generating companies to guarantee a level of baseload capacity. Taxpayers foot the bill for generating electricity, whether needed or not. The Finkel review rejected this as too radical a step and recommended instead a new reliability obligation on new renewables plants, which would need to be able to supply power for four hours after the wind or sun stopped, whether through batteries, diesel or other power sources. If implemented rigorously, this could bring investment in renewables to a halt.

    The generators told the Finkel review the biggest factor impeding investment was the policy malaise. With Labor promising a 50 per cent renewables target and the Coalition deeply divided over carbon emissions policy, there is little prospect of any bipartisan settlement. Instead, a creeping renationalisation appears likely.

    There is a strong lobby within the Coalition for the North Australia Infrastructure Fund to finance a coal-fired power station in Queensland. Despite having done nothing to avert the closures of Hazelwood in Victoria or the last South Australian power stations, the government is considering buying out the Liddell power station in NSW from AGL in 2022 to avert its scheduled closure. It is little surprise to see Energy Australia lining up for federal help to keep its Mount Piper coal-fired power station running.

    Both Malcolm Turnbull and Scott Morrison have shown their lack of faith in the electricity market, describing AGL essentially as price gougers. “AGL’s management want to look after their shareholders. For them, scarcity of energy is good because it enables them to raise prices,” the Prime Minister said on Monday. The Treasurer commented last weekend that he was not surprised that a major energy company wanted to see a big source of supply go out of the market. “I mean, that drives prices up and that benefits energy companies.”

    The government’s loss of confidence in the ability of the market to provide incentives for companies to provide reliable supply provides its excuse for direct intervention. The failure of the federal parties to settle a bipartisan energy policy opens the field for ever more radical interventions from state governments, which already are conducting their own investigation of a clean energy mechanism should the federal government fail to act. The growing direct state involvement in the electricity industry will not produce the seamless grid of which Lenin dreamt but will lead to an ever deepening crisis.

  39. OldOzzie

    Why The Russia Story Says More About The Deep State Than It Does About Trump

    The great risk is that intelligence bureaucracies become a government unto themselves, wholly unaccountable to elected officials. It’s already happening.

  40. Geriatric Mayfly

    “Folau credits his relationship with God as one of the reasons for his athletic prowess” #Absurd

    “Omar credits his relationship with Allah as one of the reasons for his Jihadi prowess.” #Devout

  41. srr

    “Vaginas and Russians and White People .. Oh My” – Why Hillary Clinton Lost
    Bearing
    Sep 13, 2017
    “Vaginas and Russians and White People .. Oh My” – Why Hillary Clinton Lost. Regards, Bearing.

  42. Tom

    How does the left get away with giant lies? My thought of the day:

    Brenden Dilley‏ @Hublife · 16h16 hours ago
    An important excerpt from “The Big Lie” by @DineshDSouza . Fantastic read so far!

  43. Tel

    What kind of society puts a male rapist in a women’s prison? In what nation would it be considered acceptable to put a man convicted of raping two girls into an enclosed space with hundreds of women? In Britain. In 2017.

    Incredibly, Martin Ponting, who was sentenced to life in 1995 for the rape of two girls under the age of 16, was recently moved to the all-women prison of Bronzefield in Surrey because he now identifies as a woman and goes by the name of Jessica Winfield.

    That sounds a lot like one of those problems that ultimately sorts itself out. Big difference between dominating a single young innocent girl as compared to trying it on with a hundred hardened prison inmates.

  44. Fergus

    The predators will always seek out the weak spots. They know beforehand who will look away and who will hide their vile mutilations of the body and soul because of shame or trying to protect so called “good” names.
    Rock spiders are the diarrhoea of the sewer system.

  45. OldOzzie

    Nikki Haley for the First Woman President

    No, this is all about Mrs. Haley who, as our UN ambassador, has looked and acted more like a future president than anyone I can think of in current politics. Anyone who can wrangle those clowns in the Security Council can do just about anything. She has also given “what for” to one of the more hypocritical organizations on the planet — the UN Human Rights Council,

    Just the other day, she maneuvered Russia and China into the most serious sanctions yet against North Korea with a unanimous vote of the Security Council. As President Trump said today, that may not mean much in the end and more serious options are probably necessary, but still it’s an accomplishment. Nothing ventured, as they say…

  46. John Constantine

    Given the massive pulse of windmill rort construction being debt-subsidised by the australian left, going from nothing to forty percent in a core five year period, with a ramp up before and wind down after,and given the short lifespan of the things…………

    What happens in 2030, when forty percent of the bankrupt and indebted Australian economy’s electricity generation capacity all wears out at the same time?. Or doesn’t it really matter, because all the cronies really know the windmills are just subsidy generators, not economy power suppliers?.

  47. cohenite

    Thanks Tom and OldOzzie for the links.

    First a gas shortage, now a coal shortage in this stupid fucking country.

  48. OldOzzie

    WH Lays Out Case for Why DOJ Should Consider Prosecuting James Comey

    The White House on Wednesday laid out its most detailed case yet for why the Department of Justice should consider prosecuting former FBI director James Comey, calling it a clear violation of federal law to leak FBI memos to the press like Comey allegedly did.

    Sarah Sanders, the White House press secretary, pointed to Comey’s acknowledgement during a June congressional hearing that he authorized the leaking of a memo about his conversations with the president to The New York Times.

    “The memos that Comey leaked were created on a FBI computer while he was the director,” Sanders said during Wednesday’s briefing. “He claims they were private property. They clearly follow the protocol of an official FBI document.”

    Sanders added, “Leaking FBI memos on a sensitive case, regardless of classification, violates federal laws including the Privacy Act, standard FBI employee agreement and non-disclosure agreement all personnel must sign. I think that’s pretty clean and clear that that would be a violation.”

  49. OldOzzie

    Tom -thanks as always

    Today another tie – Zanetti and Pickering

  50. So in Canada, a man who gets a woman inadvertently pregnant will not be required to pay child support?

    It would depend upon the law.

  51. Geriatric Mayfly

    Brian Parker our dear old “Sparkles” no less, from the Trade Union Royal Commission. Sparkle’s discomfort in the witness box was suffered gladly on behalf of the bruvvas, and for the sake of our amusement. No sweat. With his reputation sorely sullied, he walked out of the Commission and straight back into his current role.

    The nation’s most militant union, the CFMEU, and its officials have been hit with record fines of $2.4 million over an unlawful blockade after the Federal Court found it was “not possible to ­envisage worse union behaviour”.
    Judge Geoffrey Flick also ­referred four officials, including NSW secretary Brian Parker, to the Director of Public Prosecutions for possible criminal prosecution over concerns they allegedly gave false testimony during the proceedings.

  52. OldOzzie

    Sixpence/Sevenpence The Electricity Bills are skyrocketing due to the Incompetence of Both Labor and Liberals supported by the Greens

    Labor power bill attack figures botched

    Labor’s attack on the government over what it claims are $1000 price rises in the electricity bills of average Sydney households is based on a botched analysis conducted by Energy Consumers Australia.

    The admission of error by the group which describes itself as the “national voice for residential and small business energy consumers” blows a hole through the Labor claim and undermines its assault on the government.

    Energy Minister Josh Frydenberg has used figures from an Australian Energy Regulator report to reject claims that electricity bills increased by $1000 for the average Sydney household since the election of the Coalition in 2013.

    Figures provided to The Australian by Energy Consumers Australia in July showed the average Sydney household had been hit with annual electricity bill rises of 11.6, 11.7, 10.6, 10 and 10.8 per cent since July 2012. The figures were attributed to the AER and the Australian Bureau of Statistics.

    At 11:50 last night Energy Consumers Australia issued a statement to The Australian admitting their figures were incorrect.

    “ABS Data provided to The Australian incorrectly labelled a table as “annual electricity price increases” whereas the data in fact reflected changes in the electricity price index,” a spokesman said.

    “The table therefore does not reflect electricity price increases, but instead it reflects electricity price index movements, and shows a decrease in the electricity price index in Sydney for 2015 and 2016 and an increase in 2017.”

    Mr Shorten and opposition energy spokesman Mark Butler used the flawed analysis to tell parliament yesterday that, since the Coalition government was elected in 2013, power bills had increased by $1000.

    The dispute triggered conflicting claims over the true nature of the price increases that Australian consumers have been suffering since the abolition of the carbon tax and whether the savings promised by former prime minister Tony Abbott had been sustained.

    Mr Frydenberg hit back against the Labor claims of $1000 price increases, accusing Mr Butler of “making up” the figures while Malcolm Turnbull said Labor had produced “no evidence” for the accusation.

    Following question time, Mr Frydenberg called on the Opposition Leader to come to the chamber and “correct the record”.

    He said that data published by the Australian Energy Regulator in May showed that, since the start of the Coalition government in 2013, “prices across average Sydney households on standing offers have varied from increasing by $1 to falling by $473.”

    The regulator’s state of the energy market report from May showed that, in NSW, average prices had gone down in 2015 by 6.6 per cent for Ausgrid, 3.5 per cent for Endeavour Energy and 17 per cent for Essential Energy.

    For 2016, it showed increases of 9.1 per cent for Ausgrid, 7.2 per cent for Endeavour Energy and 7.7 per cent for Essential Energy.

    Mr Frydenberg told The Australian last night: “The Labor Party oversaw an increase in power prices of 100 per cent when they were in office and we oversaw the biggest single fall in electricity prices with the abolition of the carbon tax.”

    “It’s up to Labor to now explain how they have concocted this figure to mislead the Australian people.”

    Energy Consumers Australia chief executive Rosemary Sinclair had warned at the time that July 1 price rises meant it was “more important than ever” for electricity retailers to work with customers to “reduce the risk of bill shock and (to) keep people connected”.

    The government yesterday said that power bills in NSW from 2013 to 2017 decreased and that annual savings for households following the repeal of the carbon tax ranged between $103-198 according to the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission.

    From the Comments

    – “The government yesterday said that power bills in NSW from 2013 to 2017 decreased”.

    I as well as my neighbours and siblings live in Sydney, and we did not see any decrease in the cost of our electricity bills during this period but rather saw considerably large increases, even though we used less.

    I would like to know Mr Frydenberg’s source for making such a fake statement.

    – It doesn’t matter who is in power, electricity prices will continue to rise for as long as they pursue their pointless and destructive campaign against plant food.

  53. Tom

    Trump is such a sexist pig he has surrounded himself with strong, smart women — for example the new 28-year-old White House communications director confirmed today.

  54. Entitled to his view re #SSM…

    Good to know. That is such a relief.

  55. struth

    Or doesn’t it really matter, because all the cronies really know the windmills are just subsidy generators, not economy power suppliers?.

    “subsidy generators” is a great term I’ll be stealing and using to get my point across .

    Perfect when dealing with half tuned in Australians.

  56. OldOzzie

    Geriatric Mayfly
    #2497137, posted on September 14, 2017 at 7:55 am
    Brian Parker our dear old “Sparkles” no less, from the Trade Union Royal Commission

    CFMEU fined record $2.4m over blockade

    Justice Flick said Mr Parker and other senior CFMEU officials had led industrial action involving more than 1000 workers that shut down the site on July 24 and 25, 2014. Workers who had tried to enter the site were abused by CFMEU officials and called “scum” and “dogs”.

    A policewoman at the site said Mr Parker “made sure I was feeling either intimidated or scared”.

  57. struth

    Entitled to his view re #SSM…

    Good to know. That is such a relief.

    Especially seeing we pay the person saying this to hear his.

  58. OldOzzie

    The Doctrine of “No-Escapism:” eSJWpn is owned by Disney– as is Marvel. And both are going into the tank as they alienate more and more of their former audience with hardcore SJW propaganda.

    Diversity and Comics came up with the term “No Escapism” to describe this. Escapism — which sports and comic books used to be — was a nice, psychologically healthy escape from the conflicts of the real world.

    But ESPN and Marvel have decided you will not be permitted any escapism. Instead, you will only have No-Escapism — when you tune to ESPN or buy a Captain America comic, you will be subjected to constant strident political propaganda.

    You will be permitted no peace, and allowed no escape from Big Brother’s constant propaganda messaging:

  59. Herodotus

    Having listened to the ABC expressing concern in their daily coverage of the Get Pell & The Catholics Royal Commission for the past couple of years, you’d expect some more from them on this abuse story:

    More than 50 girls in New South Wales were trafficked into forced marriages to older men, with some ‘brides’ being as young as nine years old.
    Australia’s Seven News obtained documents from the Australian Federal Police on child marriage in the country. In just two years, a total of 57 children were victims of forced marriage in Australia, with almost all, 51, being from the Sydney area.

    The AFP documents included: references to an email from a girl who wrote she was being held against her will and being forced to marry; a situation report with allegations of a forced marriage at the end of the school year; and a human trafficking referral of a girl who was forced to travel outside of Australia and then exploited.

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/09/13/girls-young-nine-forced-marriages-australia/

  60. OldOzzie

    Andrew Bolt: Marriage equality debate has made dissent a crime

    SO THOSE warnings were right. We haven’t yet voted on same-sex marriage and already we’re losing our freedoms. Remember the yes crusaders scoffing at predictions that making same-sex marriage legal would lead to new laws against free speech?

    How they sneered — not just activists but members of the Liberals’ Left. “Marriage equality will not limit free speech,” insisted Paula Matthewson, former media adviser to John Howard.

    “It is a complete red herring,” said Liberal Christopher Pyne. “It has got nothing to do with freedom of speech, nothing to do with religious freedom.”

    And the Prime Minister, who in March declared he’d “defend our freedom of speech”, seemed convinced Australians needed no such curbs on their tongues.

    “I respect their wisdom and their good sense and their decency,” he said just last Sunday.

    “I am confident … that this will be a respectful debate.”

    Yet on Tuesday, two days later, his government showed what little faith it had in the voters’ good sense by announcing exactly what many gay-marriage opponents predicted: new laws against free speech. Australians claiming to feel vilified, intimidated or threatened during the same-sex marriage campaign will be able to sue for up to $12,600 under “emergency” laws passed by parliament on Wednesday.

    The only protection from legal harassment by activists is that Attorney-General George Brandis must approve any proceedings.

    What odds that these laws will ever be used against gay-marriage hate-speakers like Fairfax columnist Benjamin Law, who said he’d like to “hate-f–k all the anti-gay MPs in parliament”? Or against the screaming protesters who last week forced shut a Christian meeting?

    This isn’t the first warning we’ve had, either. Three preachers, including a Catholic archbishop, have already been dragged before Tasmania’s Anti-Discrimination Tribunal.

    Worse will come, despite the Liberals saying this law will expire when the voting is done. Labor and the Greens want such restrictions made permanent. What’s more, overseas experience suggest they’ll win. Denmark, for instance, passed laws forcing churches to marry gay couples and Sweden’s Prime Minister wants the same for Church of Sweden priests.

    Activists keep insisting same-sex marriage won’t take away your freedom to dissent, but the Turnbull Government has just nailed that lie in the saddest way.

  61. srr

    Curious …….. who did come to the Squatting Slav’s rescue …. who is canny enough to take on The Alphabet Google YouTube Global Dictating Monster, and win …. and why did they they choose to do it on The Squatting Slav’s behalf ….

    Squatting Slav TV: SJWs Tried To Destroy Me
    Squatting Slav TV
    Sep 13, 2017
    Please help support this channel at:
    patreon.com/squattingslavtv

    SJWs had my Youtube channel removed for no reason whatsoever and flagged my videos deliberately. I’m back now, and wanted to thank everyone that supports me!

  62. OldOzzie

    Andrew Bolt: We’re left cold by Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull’s lack of fight

    MALCOLM Turnbull was right: he can win the next election just by fighting Labor’s global-warming crusaders on electricity prices. In fact, he and Energy Minister Josh Frydenberg have banked on it. But Turnbull is wrong: the way he and Frydenberg are fighting — timidly and erratically — is backfiring.

    Tuesday’s Essential poll should shock the Prime Minister out of his fantasy that he can win this by being not quite as global-warming crazy as Labor in trying the impossible — cutting both prices and the emissions he claims cause dangerous warming.

    The poll showed that far from fearing Labor, which promises a disastrous 50 per cent renewable energy target by 2030, or triple today’s renewable power, voters fear the Liberals instead.

    Just 19 per cent think Turnbull’s government would cut electricity prices, while 28 per cent thought Labor would. A third, though, think both are hopeless.

    Ain’t that the truth. Thanks to both sides, your power bills have doubled in a decade and now the Australian Energy Market Operator warns we’ve closed so many coal-fired power stations — seven under the Liberals — that we also risk running out of electricity in summer.

    It is insane that we face electricity shortages in a country with huge supplies of coal, uranium and gas, but green superstitions and weak politicians have achieved the bizarre.

    One green superstition is that we’re suffering a dangerous man-made global warming that Australia can help stop by slashing its emissions — and the gain is worth the pain. Almost every syllable is false. The little warming we’ve seen in the past two decades, some of it natural, has produced none of the predicted disasters.

    Here we’ve had fewer cyclones, record crops and healthy dams. Even the two hurricanes that have just hit the US are actually the first big ones after 12 unusually quiet years.

    Moreover, Australia’s emissions are so small that no cuts can make any measurable difference to the climate. But look at the pain we’ve inflicted with our warming schemes, as useless as the indulgences medieval sinners bought from priests to stop burning in Hell.

    The higher power prices caused by politicians forcing us to use expensive wind and solar power instead mean poorer Australians can’t even afford to heat their homes and factories have been sent broke.

    That we have done that is a scandal. That so few politicians even dare call out this fraud is humiliating.

    But until Turnbull finds the guts to do it, Australia’s power prices will keep climbing and the Liberals will keep losing.

    Here is the problem in a nutshell — a line from a Turnbull media release in March last year: “Clean energy is central to the government’s strategy to address climate change and meet our emissions reduction targets.” See, Turnbull is a warmist whose policies are little different from Labor’s. Right now, for instance, he is considering adopting a 42 per cent clean energy target recommended by his Chief Scientist.

    That would saddle the Liberals with a policy voters will think is much like Labor’s 50 per cent renewable energy target. Worse, since Turnbull keeps preaching the need for “clean” energy to stop a warming disaster, his policy will seem the weaker.

    Belatedly, Turnbull now realises he must show he’s not religiously anti-coal, after all. Six months ago he didn’t lift a finger to stop Victoria’s giant Hazelwood coal-fired power station from closing, but now he’s trying everything from threats to handouts to force AGL to keep open its even bigger Liddell coal-fired power station in NSW, planned to close in 2022.

    But his attempts have been so haphazard — and so far unsuccessful — that he comes across as a policy flake rather than a man of conviction.

    Yet Turnbull could still be exactly the leader to fight the warming madness that has brought us to this electricity disaster, although it will take guts and months of hard slog. He has to say that although he thinks man’s emissions contribute to global warming, he’s a businessman and knows a bad deal when he sees one.

    Our warming policies are the ultimate bad deal. All those subsidies to wind and solar farms and all those renewable energy targets to force us to buy their electricity cost us at least $5 billion a year. And for what? No gain to the climate, while the poor shiver and Australians lose their jobs.

    And Labor’s policies threaten much worse. But to win this battle Turnbull must fight and right now he’s hardly started.

  63. C.L.

    For Nigella Lawson fans

    My favourite pic there. Ooh la-la.

  64. Tel

    Today another tie – Zanetti and Pickering

    Pickering would have been the winner if he had made the lightbulb some strange looking flouro affair.

    Or possibly an open box in the corner saying “CONTRABAND! Genuine traditional light bulb for emergency use only.”

  65. Herodotus

    There seems to be much more concern being expressed by the media and the UN about the plight of the Rohingya in Burma than about Christians and non-muslims generally in the ME.

  66. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    There seems to be much more concern being expressed by the media and the UN about the plight of the Rohingya in Burma than about Christians and non-muslims generally in the ME.

    They have to rely on their white privilege or the privilege of whites.

  67. OldOzzie

    How Victorians are spending their money: ABS survey

    VICTORIAN households are shelling out almost $75,000 a year on general living expenses, a major study of spending habits reveals.

    And families feeling the pinch are diverting a bigger share of cash to essentials rather than life’s little luxuries.

    More than half of our budgets are blown on “basics” — a share that has steadily risen for three decades, Australian Bureau of Statistics data shows.

    The Household Expenditure Survey found that in 2015-16 essentials cost $843 of the average $1430 Victorians spent on goods and services each week.

    Housing costs — on rent, mortgages, rates and home-and-contents insurance — were the biggest drain ($257).

    Food, including meals out and non-alcoholic drinks, cost $244, and transport — driving, taxi fares, and train, tram and bus fares — cost $218.

    Nationwide, the latest survey found housing, food, energy, health care and transport “essentials” were swallowing a growing share of spend as opposed to “discretionary” purchases.

    ABS RESEARCH REVEALS HOUSEHOLD DEBT HAS DOUBLED OVER 12 YEARS

    Georgie Whyte, of Brunswick, said she had cut back on expenses to control growing cost of living pressures.

    “Little things like cooking at home and preparing your meals seem really thrifty to other people, but it makes a big difference,” she said.

    “Food and rent are the big expenses. It is possible to still go out on the weekend, but you have to be smart about it.”

    The latest survey found “essential” purchases on housing, food, energy, healthcare and transport were swallowing a growing share of expenditure when compared with “discretionary” purchases.

    “A growing portion of weekly outlays is spent on basics,” ABS chief economist Bruce Hockman said.

    “Spending on basics accounted for 56 per cent of weekly household spending in 1984, growing to 59 per cent in 2015-16.”

    VICTORIAN HOUSEHOLD EXPENDITURE

    Item Average weekly spend
    Housing costs $256.78
    Electricity, gas $45.94
    Food, non-alcoholic drinks $243.98
    Alcohol $32.46
    Tobacco $15.02
    Clothes, shoes $46.54
    Furnishings, equipment $53.88
    Household services and operation $41
    Medical care and health $78.48
    Transport $218.30
    Communication $48.16
    Recreation $168.74
    Education $49.34
    Personal care $29.77
    Miscellaneous $96.12
    Source: ABS *Some figures adjusted to avoid release of confidential data

    Housing made up 20 per cent of weekly expenses, food 17 per cent, and transport 15 per cent. In 1984, food took up 20 per cent, transport 16 per cent, and housing 13 per cent.

    Education spending rose 44 per cent from the last survey in 2009-10.

    Spending on services and operations such as childcare, cleaning products and pest control climbed 30 per cent, energy and healthcare both by 26 per cent. Spending on alcohol and clothing and footwear fell slightly.

    Overall, average spending on goods and services jumped 15 per cent from 2009-10, and was almost triple that in 1984.

    The ABS said this was partly due to inflation and demographic changes in age groups and households with mortgages or dependent children.

  68. Geriatric Mayfly

    More than 50 girls in New South Wales were trafficked into forced marriages to older men, with some ‘brides’ being as young as nine years old.

    Strange indeed that the ABC totally ignores this, given Google Guthrie’s enthusiasm for ‘Diversity.’ After all, lowering the age of consent is possibly the next cab off the rank, and exposure to these quaint customs would soften up the public for what is to come.

  69. Andrew

    What really happened to Kevni’s retarded nephew:

    He actually did find a homophobe vandalising the posters. He picked a fight, thinking he could beat an out of shape man in his 40s. But old mate tradie punched the fuck out of him. Hence no police report and no witnesses. I can understand no assistance – who wants to get themselves killed to help that hipster grub out of his own mess? But no one filming a blue on their mobile phones?? Bullshit.

  70. John Constantine

    Words of wisdom from the greens.

    ” what is the point of training journalists when there are no jobs for them to go to?.”.

    Of course the greens demand government action and funding to employ Stalinist journalists, not an end to indoctrinating kids in Stalinism until they are unemployable.

  71. notafan

    That’s because they’re muslims.

    Christians deserve it.

    Muslims are innocents.

    The rest aren’t even real people, most of the time.

  72. Tel

    There seems to be much more concern being expressed by the media and the UN about the plight of the Rohingya in Burma than about Christians and non-muslims generally in the ME.

    I heard one discussion along the lines of (paraphrasing from memory) : “Do you know they are sending those poor people back to Bangladesh? What a dreadful country to be sent to!”

    I couldn’t help thinking, “Wait a moment, didn’t those people originally come from Bangladesh?”

  73. John Constantine

    As long as the bags of cash are handed out like lollies, Australia’s politicians will happily hip in the van with the strangers.

    Five grand cash in a bag to vote to deindustrialise Australia?.

    What is the catch, puzzle our political class.

  74. notafan

    The vertical facial cut and smeared blood doesn’t fit the fit narrative.

    If he hasn’t filed a police report I say he’s lying.

  75. Roger

    Can anyone out there provide the actual link to the Gov two stroke ban law please.

    Here you go.

    This is the main bill; there are three others that deal with customs and excise, etc..

  76. C.L.

    Two “Catholic” pseudo-bishops come out in favour of destroying marriage:

    Two NSW Catholic bishops have broken ranks with the No side in the same-sex marriage debate.

    While stopping short of calling for a Yes vote, Bishop Bill Wright of Maitland-Newcastle said a “com­mon good’’ argument could be made that “in our pluralist society, it does more for community peace and harmony for gay couples to have a place in the recognised structures than for them to be excluded’’…

    In an article published on his dio­cesan website, Bishop Wright said: “I wrote some time ago that the push for same-sex marriage seemed to arise from the desire of gay couples to have an officially sanctioned ceremony to formalise their commitment to each other and then to have that relationship accorded legal and social recognition. It seemed to me then, and now, that in a society where same-sex relationships are legal and gay couples can adopt and raise children, it’s a bit of a legal anomaly that their relationship itself doesn’t have a clear legal status.’’

    Yesterday, Bishop Vincent Long of Parramatta said the postal survey was “an opportunity for us to listen to what the Spirit is saying through the signs of the times’’.

    “Our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters have often not been treated with respect, sensitivity and compassion,’’ Bishop Long said in a pastoral letter. “Regrettably, the church has not always been a place where they have felt welcomed, accepted and loved.’’

    Bishop Wright advised Catho­lics to “look beyond the campaign slogans and anecdotes, and vote for what you believe will be best for our Australian community — now and into future generations”.

  77. Sydney Boy

    #2497080, posted on September 14, 2017 at 6:09 am

    People are upset because Israel Folau says he will vote NO because of his religious beliefs. But Sonny Bill Williams is “so brave” because he covers up a bank logo on his jersey because of his religious beliefs

    Thanks Sydney Boy.
    I knew there was something like that in recent history but I couldn’t for the life of me recall it.

  78. Roger

    Yesterday, Bishop Vincent Long of Parramatta said the postal survey was “an opportunity for us to listen to what the Spirit is saying through the signs of the times’’.

    Has the Spirit changed his mind on same sex relations since he inspired Paul to write Romans 1?

  79. Can anyone out there provide the actual link to the Gov two stroke ban law please.

    FMD.

    That is government totally out of control.

    I wonder when will be the first to sue the Commonwealth for property damage by fire because that did not have a (2 stroke) chainsaw/trimmer to reduce a fire hazard?

  80. Rabz

    I’d like to see the players, like Israel Folau, give the ARU and NRL an ultimatum that they will refrain from playing en masse so long as ARU or NRL use the game as a billboard for either side of the current debate.

    I’d like the idiotic corrupt parasites to stop claiming they speak on behalf of the players. All the former are capable of doing it seems, is driving fans away from following whatever game it is that the morons are maladministering.

    Stupid embarrassing tin eared cockheads, so bloody typical of the ridiculous luvvie nomenklatura that we allow to blight our lives and that are flushing this country down the crapper.

  81. Bruce of Newcastle

    when you tune to ESPN or buy a Captain America comic, you will be subjected to constant strident political propaganda.

    Superman is now rescuing country shoppers from Trump deplorables.

    Superman Protects Undocumented Workers From Armed White Supremacist in Latest Comic

    The moment in the book released Wednesday comes a week after President Trump ended DACA.

    Perhaps it is just a coincidence, but perhaps not.

    In the recent issue of Action Comics #987, “The Oz Effect,” released Wednesday, Superman arrives in the nick of time to protect a group of undocumented immigrants from a white man sporting an American flag bandanna, wielding a machine gun, who is going to shoot them for taking his job.

    Its a sad era when comics have turned into unfunny sanctimonious propaganda.

    (via Drudge, who I’ve gone over to, Google News having dropped their mask.)

  82. Twostix:

    Fake Libertarians silent on the biggest assault on free speech since we were colonies.
    What was the cost for their mewling silence? Gay men.
    Not exactly a ground breaking revelation I know.

    How much more evidence do people need to see that the Marxists have infiltrated and subverted the Libertarian movement?
    The current front men of Libertarianism are just socialists who think it’s cool to be called “Libertarians” instead of “Marxists”.
    Of course, after the revolution, all these useless fools will be purged, as per normal.

  83. Top Ender

    MORELAND has become the third council to dump Australia Day but hopes to hold on to citizenship ceremonies after a heated council meeting.

    Councillors on Wednesday night voted in favour of dropping all references to Australia Day and joined the push to change the date of national celebration.

    Moreland chose to become the third council after Darebin and Yarra to snub Australia Day, but the council reaffirmed its commitment to holding citizenship ceremonies on January 26 in a bid to avoid losing the right to perform the ceremonies like its inner-city neighbours.

    The Federal Government has barred both inner-north councils from holding citizenship ceremonies after they voted to drop the events from their January 26 schedules.

    Aboriginal elder Ian Hunter voiced his disapproval of changing the date during question time, while Wurundjeri representative Gary Murray spoke in favour.

    The council will now advocate to the Federal Government to change the date of Australia Day.

    The decision backs up a Leader News survey of councillors conducted earlier this week.

    Socialist Alliance councillor Sue Bolton earlier said the Federal Government, by stripping municipalities of their citizenship ceremonies, was “playing politics” and she accused Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull of overstepping his rights.

    Cr Bolton said she was willing to risk losing citizenship ceremonies altogether to stand up to a “bullying Federal Government”.

    Link

  84. In an article published on his dio­cesan website, Bishop Wright said: “I wrote some time ago that the push for same-sex marriage seemed to arise from the desire of gay couples to have an officially sanctioned ceremony to formalise their commitment to each other and then to have that relationship accorded legal and social recognition. It seemed to me then, and now, that in a society where same-sex relationships are legal and gay couples can adopt and raise children, it’s a bit of a legal anomaly that their relationship itself doesn’t have a clear legal status.’’

    It does have such a clear legal status, you dope. They are either de facto relationships or civil unions. If you’re going to write a pastoral letter that contradicts the Magisterium, at least have the decency to research the topic and gather the opinion of some well-informed people, rather than bring the Deposit of Faith into disrepute via such sophomoric argument.

  85. Roger

    I’d like the idiotic corrupt parasites to stop claiming they speak on behalf of the players.

    Michael Hooper said all the Wallabies were on board with the endorsemnt.

    Clearly they aren’t.

    So, were those with religious convictions not consulted or were their views disregarded?

    This is a serious issue; their employer has publicly committed them to hold views they conscientiously disagree with.

  86. srr

    JohnWickofPolitics‏ @Gingrich_of_PA 14m14 minutes ago

    Why is John Wick of Politics hanging out with @GeorgWebb ?
    DC establishment powers on both sides of the aisle shudder in fear #RabbitHole 🐇🌑

  87. Senile Old Guy

    Former Australian Idol contestant Anthony Callea has slammed the upcoming same-sex marriage survey, labelling it “insulting” on national television. While appearing on Channel 10’s The Project to promote his seventh album, Callea was asked for his thoughts on the federal government spending millions of dollars of taxpayers’ money to hold a non-binding postal ballot. The singer married his partner – actor Tim Campbell – in New Zealand three years ago. “I honestly feel that this whole situation is just insulting,” he said. “I don’t think we should be voting on a human rights issue. Religion’s got nothing to do with it, families have got nothing to do with it. Essentially, we just want a law to be equal.”

    More stupidity…but it is The Project.

    Marriage, of any kind, is not a “human right”. Is divorce a human right?

    And “families have got nothing to do with” marriage? That is the level of absurdity that this debate has descended to. Families have everything to do with any reasonable definition of marriage.

  88. John64

    Nothing like starting the day with a good belly laugh and listening to the audio of Shanghai Sam aka the Corrupt Persian Manchurian Dwarf in the Senate last night railing against “dirty deals” certainly made me laugh out loud.

    I’m not over all the details, but if The Filth and The Liars are both spewing about the new media ownership laws then there must be something positive about them.

  89. Dr Faustus

    What happens in 2030, when forty percent of the bankrupt and indebted Australian economy’s electricity generation capacity all wears out at the same time?

    The Liberal and Labor plan is for the slack to be taken up by renewables, nominally backed up by gas. Turnbull wants to see ~40% renewables/60% gas; Shorten 50% renewables/50% gas.

    The main problem is that this cunning plan requires a shitload of new gas supply/transmission – which is not going to be available from domestic sources.

    AEMO forecasts total Australian electricity demand for 2030 at around 185,000 GWh. Assuming heroic efficiency factors at the generation end, this equates to an entirely new gas supply of between 890 PJ/annum (Turnbull) and 740 PJ/annum (Shorten). And that is before allowing for contingent supply to back up the windmills.

    The total Australian domestic gas market is currently around 650-700 PJ/annum.

    Turnbull/Shorten fantasies aside, there is no uncommitted, ‘cheap’, ‘conventional’ Australian gas resource – far less gas reserves – hanging around looking for a home. And nobody in their right mind is going to tip a trillion+ high risk dollars into exploring/appraising/developing an effective doubling of the total Australian domestic supply to deliver politically convenient fiat gas.

    Everybody in the industry knows this policy direction is pure bullshit – and so do all the various government agencies such as AEMO/AEC, Geoscience Australia and all the State Mines Department.

    Australia has been herded into a trap over the past 15-20 years by self-serving fuckers. That trap is now well and truly closed – even if the policy clock was instantly wound back to 1990, power shortages and cost increases are baked in for the next 10+ years.

    The real exit price will be ridiculous.

  90. srr

    JohnWickofPolitics‏ @Gingrich_of_PA 20h20 hours ago

    [email protected]_of_PA The Dawning of magacoalition #DIXIECUPNATION #MAGA

    https://www.pscp.tv/w/1LyxBEAaDQOJN

  91. struth

    When it comes to the global warming bullshit, how long has it actually been around now?

    Since Rome convention the environment as a socialist political weapon reappeared as the socialists regrouped after WW2.

    But even allowing for the fact they have for at least 80 years (Nazis in the 30’s) been using it as a weapon, this latest socialist attack really started to gain traction due to agenda 21 implementation in the nineties.

    Many voting with this issue in mind have never known a world without the global warming hoax.
    Many full working life parasitic careers of compliance and head nodding with hand out are now at retirement age.

    Yet a mild cyclone that blew over no more than a couple of trees in tropical Queensland (I was there ,just after and Motelier would have gone through it without too much concern) still gets reported as a major category 5 natural disaster, and just a rainstorm in Brisbane has charlatan premiers telling people to stay home from work, such is there need to find what just isn’t happening.

    I have been alive for 50 years.
    The weather hasn’t changed in that time.
    I have travelled Australia extensively for most of my working life.
    Nothing has changed regarding the climate.
    Nothing.

    Seeing precise records have only been kept for no more than say around 150 years and yet we all understand that over the history of the world way before the arrival of humans up until present day, the climate has been constantly changing, you would have to agree that this is the biggest socialist redistribution of wealth scam, the world has ever seen.

    It’s the largest attack mounted by global socialists against only the west we have yet seen and it is truly the cause of all our woes.
    All of them.
    Even cultural Marxism.
    It can only gain a hold in depressed, guilt ridden societies.
    Because the golden law of the scam is that only the west caused global warming and only the west must pay for it.
    Not one Chinese or Saudi or Indian coal power stations causes it.

    In a country indoctrinated by agenda 21 western environment guilt, and resultant economic decline, it is not hard to understand the ease in which cultural Marxism can gain a firm grasp.

    SSM, (cultural marxism) we shouldn’t be thinking about it, and if the economy was going gang busters, we wouldn’t.
    We’d be busy having lives.
    We’d be confident and having fun as a nation.

    We are at war with the U.N. yet our PM works for them.

  92. Just remember,Cats, all Folau did was simply say he’d be voting No.

    That’s hate speech. Everybody knows this.

  93. Roger

    Everybody in the industry knows this policy direction is pure bullshit – and so do all the various government agencies such as AEMO…

    Audrey Zibelman thinks what is needed is not baseload but batteries.

    Now, we might dismiss her as a Green loon, but she runs AEMO.

  94. srr

    JohnWickofPolitics‏ @Gingrich_of_PA Sep 12

    My advice? Buckle up. This is a war we must win. Are you ready? #MAGA

    Gorka, Ousted Trump Adviser, Predicts More White House Shake-Ups

    HERZLIYA, Israel — Key members of Donald Trump’s 2016 election victory are now focused on influencing the president from outside of the White House, recently departed White House aide Sebastian Gorka said Monday, predicting further staff shake-ups to come.

    “The people most clearly associated with the president’s victory, with what we call the ‘Make America Great Again Agenda,’ were slowly being isolated, were sometimes being fired or pushed out of policy roles,” Gorka told NBC News in an interview. “We decided that we could best support the president outside as private citizens.”

    Gorka was in Israel attending a conference at the International Institute for Counter-Terrorism outside Tel Aviv, where he gave a keynote speech.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/gorka-ousted-trump-adviser-predicts-more-staff-shake-ups-n800346

  95. The reason why a free person would choose a 2 stroke trimmer, chainsaw etc over an electric or 4 stroke device –

    . no electrical power (they don’t make 1 km long extension cords). And who can afford the electricity?
    . weight. 2 stroke motors are significantly lighter than 4stroke. The aged, women and weaklings are not going to operate many of the 4stroke devices.
    . battery based devices are expensive junk. They suffer the same problems as battery driven vehicles. How much did Chinese battery manufacturers slip to our MPs? And who can afford the electricity?
    . they love the smell of 2stroke motors in the morning

  96. srr

    JohnWickofPolitics Retweeted
    Sebastian Gorka DrG‏Verified account @SebGorka Sep 10

    16 years on.

    We must never forget.

    And NEVER give in.

    God Bless America and her friends.

    https://twitter.com/SebGorka/status/907127067405365248

  97. thefrolickingmole

    This monring on th way to work I caught the religion and ethics program on their ABC.

    “Colonialism, white privilege, intersectionality”

    In what ciontext?
    “megachurches” like hillsong going into shitty areas and attempting to find convers and (cue sinister music) gentrify them….

    RABZ NOW!

  98. srr

    “We have big people that are coming on board to help us, ‘little people‘.”

  99. Senile Old Guy

    Di Natale:

    We are worried about what this means for the ABC; does this mean paywalls for iView? We were prepared to look at what modern 21st century media laws look like, which is why we were open to having a discussion with the Government. But it had to deliver more diversity, more jobs for independent journalism, and it had to protect and boost the ABC, not slash it, and that’s why we won’t support this package. There is a huge concern here that as a result of the deal that’s been done with One Nation… The deal has two components and one is inserting the words “fair and balanced” into the ABC charter. I mean, do we want the ABC to become Fox News? That’s their slogan.

    The ABC is independent? The ABC pushes every left wing agenda item it can identify. It is now vigorously arguing the “yes” case for SSM and various “rights” for the indigenous.

  100. srr

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    https://www.pscp.tv/w/1jMJgPwbQkOxL

  101. Senile Old Guy

    MORELAND has become the third council to dump Australia Day but hopes to hold on to citizenship ceremonies after a heated council meeting. Councillors on Wednesday night voted in favour of dropping all references to Australia Day and joined the push to change the date of national celebration. Moreland chose to become the third council after Darebin and Yarra to snub Australia Day, but the council reaffirmed its commitment to holding citizenship ceremonies on January 26 in a bid to avoid losing the right to perform the ceremonies like its inner-city neighbours. Aboriginal elder Ian Hunter voiced his disapproval of changing the date during question time, while Wurundjeri representative Gary Murray spoke in favour.

    Sigh. Another left wing council getting involved in things which are not its concern.

    The council will now advocate to the Federal Government to change the date of Australia Day. The decision backs up a Leader News survey of councillors conducted earlier this week.

    Note that the survey was of councillors, not ratepayers.

    Socialist Alliance councillor Sue Bolton earlier said the Federal Government, by stripping municipalities of their citizenship ceremonies, was “playing politics” and she accused Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull of overstepping his rights.

    A Socialist Alliance councillor says the Feds are playing politics but the council isn’t? Oh, the ironing.

    Cr Bolton said she was willing to risk losing citizenship ceremonies altogether to stand up to a “bullying Federal Government”.

    AKA a Federal Government which is following tradition and not playing partisan politics.

  102. Infidel Tiger

    Hey Catholics, why in God’s name isn’t the church excommunicating these fallen bishops and fake Christians like Turnbull, Shorten and Andrews?

  103. srr


    God Bless America and her friends.

    https://twitter.com/SebGorka/status/907127067405365248

    Bill Mitchell‏Verified account @mitchellvii 4h4 hours ago

    Trump ran as a dealmaker and a doer. Guess what? He’s making deals and doing.

    If you’re surprised you need to find a new hobby.

  104. struth

    The two stroke being banned ?

    No one wants to ban aboriginals, lightning and rangers from setting the entire Northern half of Australia alight so that a clear day is not seen for months in some parts, yet banning the two stroke is a priority?
    Will banning two strokes for Australians offset the “pollution” from the hundreds of new Chinese and Indian power stations that are ironically still using our coal?

    See comment above regarding socialist agenda 21 attack on our western civilisation.

  105. Michael Hooper said all the Wallabies were on board with the endorsemnt.

    Clearly they aren’t.

    So, were those with religious convictions not consulted or were their views disregarded?

    This is a serious issue; their employer has publicly committed them to hold views they conscientiously disagree with.

    Roger, I will ask that very question on twitter and see what happens.

  106. Dr Faustus #2497188, posted on September 14, 2017 at 9:00 am

    – even if the policy clock was instantly wound back to 1990, power shortages and cost increases are baked in for the next 10+ years.
    The real exit price will be ridiculous.

    I think we will not be able to buy our way out of it.
    Given the exodus of power consuming businesses, the taxation base and consumer base will not be big enough to provide the money to rebuild a power generation infrastructure in any meaningful time frame.

    The rebuild period is, unfortunately, much longer than the election cycle.

    Get used to the idea of whale oil lamps for lighting and dung fires for cooking.

  107. Myrddin Seren

    Thanks Tom and OldOzzie for the links.

    First a gas shortage, now a coal shortage in this stupid fucking country.

    Not so much a coal shortage, as a system with very little capacity to respond to short term demand swings.

    Newcastle exports are pretty much running at record levels, barring some port closures for heavy seas lately, as the North Asian economies happily use the coal that more enlightened and vocal Australians dismiss and scorn. ( Australians who don’t scorn coal get about as much of a hearing as Izzie Folau does on questions of faith ).

    The mines, railways and ports are expensive and high capital. Past inefficiencies have largely seen access tightly managed to minimise waste. Pretty much all the service providers now require take-or-pay contracts to supply access to port and rail. Use it or pay for it anyway – because why should the providers decide to stump up expensive capital if customers aren’t going to utilise it ?

    This and the fact that the system has little surge capacity means mine production plans, transport plans and loading capacity are pretty inflexible. eg There is no point in warehousing a pile of production for six months hoping to squeeze the market up, because you can’t warehouse trains and port space – the coal can only move as fast as the weakest link in the chain.

    Now the generators, on the back of the Hazelwood closure and cold weather, can sell every watt of electricity they can produce. What they hadn’t done is bid for coal well in advance to be able to take advantage of the swing, because coal is a no-no ( try making an argument for new, term coal contracts with Vesey at AGL ).

    And so no one one has spare coal – it is contracted already and going out the export door.

    Higher prices and rising export demand for coal are squeezing NSW electricity generators

    AGL’s results suggest they aren’t being squeezed in the slightest – it is just they can’t maximise their profits at this time.

    Of course we could always go back to the Whitlam days and re-regulate every mine plan and export contract and cancel the ones the government doesn’t like. Wile E. Trumble seems to have gone down that path with the gas industry so I don’t imagine it is much of a stretch to see the Coalition burnish its free enterprise credentials by bringing back export controls to prop up the complete failure of energy policy in this country.

  108. struth

    I think we will not be able to buy our way out of it.

    We are in serious shit and the tipping point was reached the day Turdball got in.

    I’m just waiting on the outcome of the NZ election.

  109. A Lurker

    I’m still waiting on a column from Sinc. declaiming against yesterday’s erosion of freedom of speech brought about by the Turnbull Government…

  110. Top Ender

    “an opportunity for us to listen to what the Spirit is saying through the signs of the times’’

    The Spirit is depressed at the state of modern Western society and has gone down the pub to see his other Spirit friends.

    Mr Gin, Miss Tequila, and Mrs Bundaberg Rum have joined him and will be reporting back in a few hours.

  111. struth

    Liberty Quote

    Americans elected a black president. Twice. Labor can’t find a seat in federal parliament for a single indigenous Australian.

    — Niki Savva

    Neither they should Nikki, you stupid bint.

    The indigenous Australian should find his/her own seat in federal parliament.

  112. Geriatric Mayfly

    Di Natale and the Greens are having one of their periodic turns today. They don’t want a fair and balanced ABC, they don’t want the life of Lidell extended, and they lavish praise on Moreland Council for being anti Australian. They will be a cot case by midday.

  113. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    IMMIGRATION
    Asylum families lose Christmas Island boat rescue suit
    The Australian
    12:00AM September 14, 2017
    Anthony Klan
    Journalist
    Sydney
    @Anthony_Klan

    Family members of dozens of asylum-seekers killed or injured when their boat smashed into Christmas Island have had their legal case against the federal government overwhelmingly rejected by the NSW Supreme Court, which found border authorities had handled the tragedy properly.

    The group of eight families sued the commonwealth over the December 2010 incident in which 50 Iranian and Iraqi ­asylum-seekers were killed, alleging it had abrogated its duty of care by failing to intercept the ­arrivals before their boat was destroyed and because two government rescue vessels in the area were not seaworthy.

    Judge Geoff Bellew found in favour of the commonwealth in almost every one of 18 questions raised by the case, finding the government owed no duty of care to the asylum-seekers who had undertaken the journey of their own accord, and that the unseaworthy vessels could not have been used in the rescue because they were too small for the prevailing weather conditions.

    Led by human rights lawyer George Newhouse, the families alleged the government should have known the vessel — called Suspected Illegal Entry Vessel 221 — was in Australian waters and facing potential danger and that the government’s HMAS Pirie should have intercepted it.

    The federal government has said the legal action, defended at taxpayers’ expense, “beggars belief”, was a “shameful and offensive claim” and that those making the claims “have to be held ­accountable for those claims”.

    Mr Newhouse could not be reached for comment yesterday.

    At the time SIEV 221 crashed on the Christmas Island cliffs, on the morning of December 15, HMAS Pirie was nearby but was keeping watch over SIEV 220, another asylum-seeker vessel it had intercepted hours earlier.

    “On the information which was made available to him at about 06:00 on 15 December, 2010, Commander Livingstone did not know, nor did he have reason to suspect, that SIEV 221 was in distress,” the judge said.

    “The evidence did not support a conclusion that, even if the HMAS Pirie had relinquished its position in proximity to SIEV 220 and had undertaken a patrol further to the north of Christmas Island, it would have detected SIEV 221 and been able to intercept it.”

    The eight families had sought damages for physical or psychological injuries suffered by the victims, the loss of victims’ mat­erial possessions and psychological injury of the relatives of the SIEV 221 passengers.

    Justice Bellew found the government had not put the asylum-seekers at any risk of harm, that it did not direct the vessel to navigate to Australia, did not control the weather, did not know anything about the skill of those ­operating the vessel and had “no control over the primitive nature of the vessel”.

    “Those on board could have protected themselves simply by not undertaking the voyage in the first place.

    From the Oz. Some sense in the judiciary, at long last?

  114. Atoms for Peace

    A quick look at indigenous members of parliament shows a few ALP members currently elected.
    Maybe there is some secret ABC victim code I can’t translate..

  115. Geriatric Mayfly

    Americans elected a black president. Twice. Labor can’t find a seat in federal parliament for a single indigenous Australian.

    Doesn’t Burney claim The Heritage?

  116. Atoms for Peace

    Is it just me, but I do recall all and sundry ( that includes the enviro groups ) hailing the benefits of gas vs coal. Slippery slope later, NO; you can’t look for gas. Duplicitous shits.

  117. The question has been asked, Roger. Can those with twitter accounts retweet or like. Let’s try and get a response from the ARU.

  118. Gas is pretty good as a transport fuel. It would be even better without all of the attached taxes, levies etc.

    To waste a transport fuel on electricity generation is beyond insane when you have a near infinite supply of black and brown coal.

    The Reason versus Dogma civil war will be short and brutal.

  119. C.L.

    Michael Hooper said all the Wallabies were on board with the endorsement.

    Bullshit.

  120. Dr Faustus

    Everybody in the industry knows this policy direction is pure bullshit – and so do all the various government agencies such as AEMO…

    Audrey Zibelman thinks what is needed is not baseload but batteries.

    Personally, my problem is not about the flavour of the bullshit being offered around.

  121. Anyone know where I can buy a nuclear powered brush cutter?

  122. Bruce of Newcastle

    Hey Catholics, why in God’s name isn’t the church excommunicating these fallen bishops and fake Christians like Turnbull, Shorten and Andrews?

    Hmm…perhaps, perhaps.

    Pope Francis slams ‘stupid’ climate deniers (yesterday)

    Pope Francis has sharply criticised climate change deniers as “stupid” in the wake of a spate of powerful hurricanes that have wreaked havoc in the United States, Mexico and the Caribbean.

    “Those who deny it [climate change] should go to the scientists and ask them,” the pontiff said on Monday during an in-flight press conference on the return leg of a five-day Colombia trip. “They speak very clearly.”

    As his charter plane flew over some of the recently devastated areas en route to Rome, Francis added: “I am reminded of a phrase from the Old Testament, I think from the Psalm: ‘Man is stupid, he is stubborn and he does not see.’”

    Presumably I am a stupid scientist then. I especially like the quote* from the psalm. Physician heal thyself.

    * which I can’t find in the Bible anywhere, but I’m not familiar with the translation my Catholic friends use. Can anyone find the passage? Doesn’t seem to be Ps 92 or Is 6.

  123. Snoopy

    Di Natale:

    We were prepared to look at what modern 21st century media laws look like, which is why we were open to having a discussion with the Government. But it had to deliver more diversity, more jobs for independent journalism, and it had to protect and boost the ABC, not slash it, and that’s why we won’t support this package.

    Is it just me or is this a massive logic fail?

  124. zyconoclast

    Worth sharing from another thread.

    John Constantine
    #2497111, posted on September 14, 2017 at 7:16 am
    Educate the lazy and corrupt people, until they feel too entitled to actually work, then turn them loose to construct crony ‘crime of opportunity’ looting positions for themselves.
    Australia’s ruinable energy diworsification of the economy is due to the corruptocracy taking over from the meriticracy.
    Underpinning the economy by importing mass loads of debt, then pretending to service the debt by importing the most corrupt people the world has to offer, complete with the loot they have taken from their place of origin, plus importing the corrupt culture that enabled them to loot so much money originally. How smart is this?.
    Indoctrinating corrupt and lazy pricks into feeling they are too good to work and fit only to loot is how we got into this trillion dollar, deindustrialising, de-electrifying, over-regulated compliant blackout roulette of an economy.
    Still, once de-industrialised and supplied with million dollar mortgages, the indoctrinated corruptocracy that makes up the bottom of the Ponzi pyramid can’t even afford to breed, so must import their own replacements, so there will be an end to them.
    Everybody that benefits from a Ponzi scheme feels it is unstoppable, all they need is enough debt to enable another layer of the pyramid to be recruited.
    How long did it take Australia to become a debtor economy?. How long did it take Australia to become so indebted it cannot ever escape the grip of the international organisational looting forces that keep presenting surrender documents for compliance?.
    Import the most corrupt people in the world to buy overpriced mansions in Sydney, in the hope that Australians will get good clean jobs shuffling paper and enabling the culture of corruption, and that the whole system will magically reach a tipping point that will no longer require continued supply of the international corruptocracy and their mafia wealth.
    The imported kleptocrats cannot take their overpriced mansions back to their corrupt hellholes, but they can import their bags of cash corruption with them–look at the way Australia’s politicians line up for their brown paper bags of cash so they can sell us out for kopecks in the kohinoor.
    Too smart to work.
    Sums up the Australian Ponzi Gulag in one slogan.

  125. Snoopy

    Anyone know where I can buy a nuclear powered brush cutter?

    Try Iran or North Korea.

  126. calli

    Just heard about Falou. Grrrr. I can’t see Twitter here in China, but good luck guys with the ARU. The NRL are a lost cause.

    The beautiful clear day has changed to something more typical – smog. Did the 8k trek from the end of T Square up past Mao’s Tomb and into the Forbidden City. Gazing up the Meridian at the perfect symmetry of the structures, China as the “Centre of the Cosmos” became clear (and, incidentally, the symbol for China).

    The traffic here is insane. Almost as bad as Sydney. 😃

  127. srr

    NOLTE: FLASHBACK —
    ADMITTED OCCULTIST SALLY QUINN
    RIDICULED SARAH PALIN’S CHRISTIAN FAITH

    Back in 2009, when journalist/socialite Sally Quinn used the pages of the leftwing Washington Post to blast former-Governor Sarah Palin’s Christian faith, all we knew about Quinn was that she was a committed atheist (this is someone the Washington Post thought should run its religious section).

    What we did not know about Quinn, because she did not want us to know, is that while The Queen of Pro-Science could not bring herself to believe in God, what she did believe in was the occult, the dark arts, voodoo, and the power of the hex. Quinn believes so strongly in her own witch-like powers, she is certain that she is responsible for the deaths of three people, three innocent people who died after Quinn hit them with a hex.

    Their crime?

    Daring to offend the Queen of Pro-Science.

    Now that we know that Quinn is a practitioner of the dark arts, now that we know who this wicked person (she believes she has the power to murder and has used it) truly is, this important context can better inform what she has written in the past, most especially her venomous attacks on those she sees as apostates: Christian women who want no part of the leftwing plantation.

    And as we all know, for the last eight years, the number-one target in this regard has been Governor Palin.

    Displaying a painfully stupid, mind-bogglingly obtuse, and achingly ignorant insight into all-things Christianity, Quinn attacked Palin for — I swear I am not making this up — her youthful decision to “put my life in my creator’s hands and trust Him as I sought my life’s path.”

    Quinn, whose inability to grasp even a rudimentary understanding of Christianity, who comprehends the basics of the faith with the brainpower of a tree stump on meth, just cannot quite reconcile Palin’s decision with a number of beats in the 2008 vice presidential candidate’s life, or the fact that Palin dared write a memoir.

    The Wicked Witch of D.C. asks out loud:

    Did God plan for her to become Governor of Alaska. If so, did God plan for her to step down. Did God plan for her to run for Vice President? If so why did she and McCain lose?

    Did God plan for her to have a child with Down’s Syndrome? If so why did she consider an abortion? Did God plan for her to have a huge wardrobe? Then why did she apologize for it? …

    You would think that God would ask of her to live her life as an example to others of a compassionate loving, caring person. One of the most powerful examples of God’s love in the Bible is that of forgiveness.
    Turning the other cheek. But Palin’s book is a screed against everyone who ever done her wrong.

    At the time, this was one of the stupidest things I had ever read; the entire piece reads like an Onion satire ridiculing the Sally Quinns of our world, the clueless elites who know all the correct things to say and believe but who have no understanding whatsoever of how the real world works, who real people are; no commons sense, no native intelligence, no ability to function as anything resembling a useful human being outside of an event involving cocktails, pretension and backbiting.

    This is how depraved our Ruling Class is…

    Rather than pick up Christianity for Dummies — which probably on page one explains the basics: the concept of free will, the notion of carving out a spiritual life in God’s natural world; the idea that being a Christian does not mean being a doormat (can someone please tell the Washington Post religion writer about Jesus turning over those money-changer tables); that “turn the other cheek” is an act of defiance (duh); that uncomfortable truths must be spoken out loud, and that God does not reward Christians with awesome lives. In fact, the moment you turn your life over to Him your problems have just begun — Quinn actually published her raging ignorance for all the world to see.

    But you see, in her shallow world, a narrow and close-minded place populated with vacuous provincials, cattiness will always trump knowledge and depth and charity.

    Regardless, what is now important to keep in mind is that Quinn did not write that as a committed non-believer. She lied. She covered up the fact that her demonic attack on Palin was written by a practicing occultist who believes she successfully used her dark powers to murder three people guilty of nothing more than not kissing one of her diamond rings.

    Quinn’s ridicule was not coming from a place only of ignorance, and it certainly was not coming from a place of inquiry. Rather, it was coming from a dark and unholy place, from an occult priestess using deception to destroy an apostate.

    This cannot be stressed enough…

    Between the Spirit Cooking, Quinn’s occultism, and the dismissive reaction to both from our Thought Leaders, we now know for a fact that many in our Ruling Class are gripped by an unholy desire to summon evil as a means to power — power over you and I — to control and organize our lives through central government.

    This is not a game or a joke. Whether you believe in Satanism, the occult, hexes, voodoo or not, nothing changes the fact that those willing to embrace such a thing are capable of anything, any evil, any betrayal, any deception as a means to get what they want.

    As I wrote yesterday, Quinn coming out as an occultist explains so, so much.

    P.S. Did I mention that this hideous woman believes she has the power to murder people and has used that power? To me, that just seems like an important insight into her character and the character of all those in her social circle, which is pretty much anyone who is anyone.


    MORE At –
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2017/09/13/nolte-flashback-admitted-occultist-sally-quinn-ridiculed-sarah-palins-christian-faith/

  128. Infidel Tiger

    Michael Hooper said all the Wallabies were on board with the endorsement

    Michael my dear boy, you are a very good player but you’ll never be a leader if you live your life as a toady for the spivs in the front office

    Get some sack, dude.

  129. calli

    Chuckle. Couldn’t help thinking of David Niven and the Stiff Upper Lip, and the Texas Rangers riding in to save the day.

  130. Geriatric Mayfly

    Physician heal thyself.

    I think The Bard is responsible for this one (Macbeth)

  131. Dr Sir Major General

    Doesn’t seem to be Ps 92 or Is 6.

    No, it’s from the New Testament; it was a Greek not a Hɛbrɛw proverb.
    Luke iv:23:

    And he said unto them, Ye will surely say unto me this proverb, Physician, heal thyself: whatsoever we have heard done in Capernaum, do also here in thy country.

  132. John64

    Labor can’t find a seat in federal parliament for a single indigenous Australian.

    Thanks to knowledgeable contributors to the Cat I now understand that the Irishman Patrick O’Dodson does not qualify.

  133. Bruce of Newcastle

    GM – I mean Francis’ quote: “Man is stupid, he is stubborn and he does not see.”

  134. jupes

    Justice Bellew found the government had not put the asylum-seekers at any risk of harm, that it did not direct the vessel to navigate to Australia, did not control the weather, did not know anything about the skill of those ­operating the vessel and had “no control over the primitive nature of the vessel”.

    “Those on board could have protected themselves simply by not undertaking the voyage in the first place.

    Why do we need to waste millions of dollars for a court to state the bleeding obvious.

    I could have told them that for a slab.

  135. C.L.

    ARU attempts to stand over Israel Folau …

    It’s understood ARU officials have spoken to Folau about his stance after the board voted to support marriage equality.

  136. Subtle humour db:
    As well as treating them with the respect they deserved, and not as props for a campaign they never signed off on.

  137. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Thanks to knowledgeable contributors to the Cat I now understand that the Irishman Patrick O’Dodson does not qualify.

    Neither does the Scotswoman, Linda Burney.

  138. Jo Smyth

    A report out says that some Politicians are worried that driverless trucks could be used as bombs by terrorists. Just as if terrorists would stoop that low.

  139. Top Ender

    Letter of the Day in the Oz:

    Agreed, (Letters, 13/9), for many SSM fatigue has already set in, and the “civil, courteous, and respectful” official debate on the pros and cons of SSM is only just beginning. No matter how earnestly you plead, there will be no shutting up, so best sever all contact with all media for the next five or six weeks. And, even after the vote, no matter which side wins, the other will find a reason to cry foul. So batten down the hatches (and block your ears and eyes), the SSM storm will rage on regardless.

    Deborah Morrison, Malvern East, Vic

  140. Geriatric Mayfly

    Media reforms ‘lead to attacks on ABC’
    PoliticsNow: Tony Burke says the government’s media reforms will give “the green light” to attacks on the ABC.

    So what? And bring it on I say, loud and hard. Rabz to the fore.

  141. Mother Lode

    “I think it would have been ­really great if he (Lionel Murphy) would have lived to see himself vindicated,” she (Juni Morosi) said yesterday.

    I knew there was something I didn’t like about her.

    It is a type III conditional. The ‘If’ clause is supposed to be past perfect. “If he had lived…”

    How do you trust someone like that?

  142. Just as if terrorists would stoop that low.

    They are honourable gentlemen who demand satisfaction* after the slap on the face with the glove.

    *Nail laden pressure cookers at dawn

  143. Zatara

    when you tune to ESPN or buy a Captain America comic, you will be subjected to constant strident political propaganda.

    US sports fans have just about had enough of the political fuckwittery coming from both ESPN and the National Football League. Between double digit declines in both live attendance at matches and viewers of the events on ESPN TV in the last two years the NFL and ESPN are merrily and rapidly fiddling away while their income and subscriptions plummet. Ratings for the formerly wildly popular Monday Night Football dropped 26% in 2016 and is on pace to exceed that drop by a wide margin this season.

    What fuckwittery you ask?

    “Donald Trump is a white supremacist who has largely surrounded himself w/ other white supremacists”

    – Jemele Hill, who was “given a talking to” for it by ESPN.

    “The comments on Twitter from Jemele Hill regarding the President do not represent the position of ESPN. We have addressed this with Jemele and she recognizes her action were inappropriate,” the network said in a statement.”

    – But the Twitter post wasn’t deleted.

    “In recent memory, ESPN has awarded its prestigious Arthur Ashe Award for Courage to Caitlyn Jenner for coming out as transgender, spent countless hours of airtime praising now-former NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick for kneeling during the National Anthem and even removed an Asian-American broadcaster named Robert Lee from an assignment because of fear that his name is similar to Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee.”

    Meanwhile, longtime ESPN anchor Linda Cohn was told by directly by the network’s president John Skipper not to show up to work after she suggested that the network has become too political.

    “Middle America wants to pop a beer and listen to sports talk, they don’t want to be lectured about why Caitlyn Jenner is a hero, Michael Sam is the new Jackie Robinson of sports, and Colin Kaepernick is the Rosa Parks of football,” Travis wrote in a blog post Wednesday. “ESPN made the mistake of trying to make liberal social media losers happy and as a result lost millions of viewers.”

  144. zyconoclast

    <I?I’d like to see the players, like Israel Folau, give the ARU and NRL an ultimatum that they will refrain from playing en masse so long as ARU or NRL use the game as a billboard for either side of the current debate.
    I’d like the idiotic corrupt parasites to stop claiming they speak on behalf of the players. All the former are capable of doing it seems, is driving fans away from following whatever game it is that the morons are maladministering.
    Stupid embarrassing tin eared cockheads, so bloody typical of the ridiculous luvvie nomenklatura that we allow to blight our lives and that are flushing this country down the crapper.

    I’d like to see the government to stop funding these allegedly billion dollar business including upgrading sports grounds etc.

  145. Dr Faustus

    The rebuild period is, unfortunately, much longer than the election cycle.

    This is certainly true.

    Perhaps the bigger problem is that both ‘parties of government’ are so linked to the economic and social disaster now unfolding that neither has any political capacity to identify, analyse and correct the policy fail now savaging their sorry arses.

    It looks like Turnbull may have been struck by fragments of clue-bat with his sudden conversion to the possibility of Clean Coal. But shitty retail politics, activism and rentier-power will keep that option from happening even while the place is burning down.

  146. OldOzzie

    incoherent rambler
    #2497237, posted on September 14, 2017 at 10:10 am
    Anyone know where I can buy a nuclear powered brush cutter?

    I am buying one of these -BUT- needs ‘Lectricity

    Garden Maintenance guy used one of these for Winter Hedging and having 36V Bosch Hedge Cutter, was impressed with the performance, Choice gave the Whipper Attachment 85% Rating

  147. Bruce of Newcastle

    Zatara – I was entertained that Kaepernick yesterday defended Jemele Hill and her Trump666ing.

    If he wasn’t unemployable before he certainly is now. No sane NFL owner would ever add him to their roster as it would crater the franchise finances.

    Colin Kaepernick Comes to the Support of ESPN’s Jemele Hill

  148. zyconoclast

    Firemen Abandon House Blaze After Being Attacked in Swedish No-Go Zone

    Firefighters in the southern Swedish city of Malmö were forced to let a building burn to the ground after they were violently attacked by locals who threw glass bottles at them.
    The fire, which occurred in the city’s suburb of Kroksback, initially started after two cars in a car park were set on fire Thursday at around 9 pm. Police and fire crews were called and arrived on the scene shortly after, whilst another fire started at a nearby building on Sörbäcksgatan street, police said in a press release.

  149. Atoms for Peace

    Be warned; the battery packs for some of those 36 V garden tools can cost more than a few hundred dollars.
    They keep them in a separate area in Bunnings etc as they are high value theft items..

  150. 2dogs

    Let’s hope political bias gets included in the ToR of this ACCC inquiry, and James Damore gives evidence.

  151. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    for many SSM fatigue has already set in

    I feel the same. Can’t give up though. Must still fly the flag for family and sanity in all of this.

  152. zyconoclast

    Calls to punish skeptics rise with links to climate change, hurricanes

    Calls to punish global warming skepticism as a criminal offense have surged in the aftermath of Hurricanes Harvey and Irma, but it hasn’t discouraged climate scientists like Judith Curry.
    A retired Georgia Tech professor, she argued on her Climate Etc. website that Irma, which hit Florida as a Category 4 hurricane on Saturday, was fueled in large part by “very weak” wind shear and that the hurricane intensified despite Atlantic Ocean temperatures that weren’t unusually warm.
    That is the kind of talk that could get policymakers who heed her research hauled before the justice system, if some of those in the climate change movement have their way.
    Climate change denial should be a crime,” declared the Sept. 1 headline in the Outline. Mark Hertsgaard argued in a Sept. 7 article in the Nation, titled “Climate Denialism Is Literally Killing Us,” that “murder is murder” and “we should punish it as such.”
    The suggestion that those who run afoul of the climate change consensus, in particular government officials, should face charges comes with temperatures flaring over the link between hurricanes and greenhouse gas emissions.

    Similar augments used here for SSM denialism. Fine and punish if you speak out against it. Love is love etc.

  153. srr

    Ezra Levant: The REAL reason schools ban “racist” Shakespeare
    Rebel Media
    Sep 13, 2017
    Ezra Levant of TheRebel.media: An Ontario school board is getting rid of Shakespeare, supposedly because it alienates visible minority students. But what’s really behind this?

  154. Zatara

    Say what you will about the Catholic Church but don’t mess with Sister Ann of the chainsaw!

  155. Atoms for Peace

    Can you imagine some of the sledging that will now be happening at international level footy ?

  156. harrys on the boat

    Those on twatter should be asking how Waleed and Bachar Houli will be voting

  157. John64

    A report out says that some Politicians are worried that driverless trucks could be used as bombs by terrorists. Just as if terrorists would stoop that low.

    Might not catch on. Why would you cheat yourself out of paradise and all those virgins?

  158. JC

    You know, he does deserve it. He’s out on bail and enticing people with 5K, over the web, to get a load of Crooked’s.hair.

    That’s just asking the judge to revoke bail.

    Fucking idiot.

    An angry federal judge revoked Martin Shkreli’s $5 million bail and ordered him jail on Wednesday at the request of prosecutors, after the former pharmaceutical exec offered $5,000 over Facebook to anyone who could deliver a strand of Hillary Clinton’s hair.

    “On HRC’s book tour, try and grab a hair from her,” Shkreli wrote on Sept. 4, adding “I must confirm the sequences I have. Will pay $5,000 per hair obtained from Hillary Clinton.”

    The post caught the attention of the U.S. Secret Service, who beefed up protective measures for Clinton during her book tour.

    New York Judge Kiyo Matsumoto said the 34 year old Shkreli “demonstrated that he has posed a real danger” to the public. Shkreli – who was out on bail awaiting sentencing in his securities fraud trial – wrote a letter to the court which stated that his offer was an “awkward attempt at humor or satire.”

    “I wanted to personally apologize to this Court and my lawyers for the aggravation that my recent postings have caused,” Shkreli wrote, adding “I understand now that some may have read my comments about Mrs. Clinton as threatening, when that was never my intention when making those comments”

    Via CNBC:

    A somber-looking Shkreli, wearing a purple dress shirt and a shaggy mop of hair, was taken into custody by U.S, Marshal deputies just after 6 p.m. as his grim-faced legal team stood by.

    He will be held in the federal jail known as the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn until his sentencing on securities fraud charges, which Matsumoto set on Wednesday for Jan. 16.

    Shkreli’s lawyer Benjamin Brafman argued in his own letter that his client – an avid supporter of President Trump – was simply engaging in political hyperbole, pointing out that comedian Kathy Griffin was not prosecuted after she posted a photo of herself holding up a bloody Trump-head effigy.

    “Another example of political hyperbole is when President Donald Trump, as a candidate, caused a controversy last year by implying that ‘Second Amendment people’ could prevent former Secretary Clinton from abolishing their right to bear arms.”

    Sorry Martin, club Fed awaits.

  159. OldOzzie

    Atoms for Peace
    #2497280, posted on September 14, 2017 at 10:51 am
    Be warned; the battery packs for some of those 36 V garden tools can cost more than a few hundred dollars.
    They keep them in a separate area in Bunnings etc as they are high value theft items..

    I bought Bosch 36V hedge Cutter from the UK, included battery and charger, and cheaper than Bosch 18V here in Australia – has been running well for over 2 years.

    On the EGO is comes with 2.5A 56V plus charger, and from what I saw on Garden Maintenance guys use , the 2.5A latsted quite well, but he had a 5A- $299 and 7.5A $399 as well, but obviously heavier to use

    For me the 2,5A battery will suffice and will upgrade to fast charger when purchasing

  160. Bruce of Newcastle

    Be warned; the battery packs for some of those 36 V garden tools can cost more than a few hundred dollars.

    I was thinking of all those poor lawn guys. Having a lawn business is about to become a lot harder. You’d need dozens and dozens of batteries just for each day of work.

    And the Nats and PHON supported this wretched bill? Madness.

  161. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Did the 8k trek from the end of T Square up past Mao’s Tomb and into the Forbidden City

    Smog so bad on my visit that my bronchitis kicked back in. I couldn’t have walked anywhere. Luckily that didn’t matter as you couldn’t see more than twenty metres ahead anyway. Relying on you Calli to paint the picture of Beijing for me. It was better when I went to the Summer Palace and the Great Wall. Both well worth the visit. Do the Hutong laneways still exist? I did see those in close up. They were busy knocking down many of those old dwellings to build more high rise at the time.

  162. notafan

    Which of those two ‘bishops’ is the one who wanted a glitter mitre?

  163. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    And the Nats and PHON supported this wretched bill? Madness

    I read it was voted on the voices. Is that so? I also read somewhere that PHON also objected. Anyone know? Nats certainly seem to have gone right ahead, which is completely inexplicable. Tractors next.

  164. John64

    Thanks to knowledgeable contributors to the Cat I now understand that the Irishman Patrick O’Dodson does not qualify.

    Neither does the Scotswoman, Linda Burney.

    Linda McBurney, surely? 🙂

  165. Geriatric Mayfly

    Anyone know? Nats certainly seem to have gone right ahead, which is completely inexplicable. Tractors next.

    Emission controls on Frank Elly would be most welcome.

  166. thefrolickingmole

    I love the way the public are being surprised when the stated objective of the low carbon economy is starting to work.

    The higher prices are exactly and precisely how the “efficencies” in energy use are supposed to be signaled.
    Cant afford the air conditioner: Stated objective.
    Transport/vehicle prices up: Stated objective
    Cutting back on luxuries because essentials have gone up: Stated objective.

    https://openknowledge.worldbank.org/handle/10986/26565

  167. Bruce of Newcastle

    I also read somewhere that PHON also objected. Anyone know?

    The link I gave was to Cory’s blogpost yesterday (which is his weekly email). He says:

    Labor, Liberal, Greens, National and One Nation parties all stated they supported the bill.

    That’s all I can find anywhere, but since he was in the chamber at the time it seems reasonable he’s reporting what he saw and heard.

  168. Zatara

    Pretty interesting video regarding hurricane Harvey and its ‘undocumented shoppers’.

    I won’t comment on the obvious themes here. Some bad, some frankly scary.

    And a new one from hurricane Irma. The law wins in a few of these clips, worth waiting for.

  169. Infidel Tiger

    Treasurer Scott Morrison has also agreed to have the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission conduct an inquiry into Google, Facebook and other internet giants.

    Senator Xenophon says Google and Facebook are “hoovering up” $4 billion in advertising revenue in Australia, but paying little tax.

    Fantastic news. Philosophically I am against this, but in reality I think Silcon Valley should be nuked and anyone who has or does work for them executed.

  170. srr

    George Hook Said Nothing Wrong
    Computing Forever
    Sep 13, 2017

  171. jupes

    After four years of investigation the SAS ‘hand-chopper’ has finally been cleared.

    Or has he?

    The Australian can reveal that the AFP has concluded its ­investigation and has referred the matter back to the Australian ­Defence Force, after deciding no further action would be taken over the incident.

    Here’s a brief description of the incident : Australian soldiers in Afghanistan use biometric data (fingerprints) to identify Taliban targets. Usually a fingerprint machine is carried on target but not in this case. The SAS launched a mission targeting a specific Taliban leader. They killed a couple of Taliban and one of the SAS soldiers cut one hand off each of the dead bodies to take back to base for identification. That way they would know if the mission was successful or not.

    What was wrong with that? It makes perfect sense to me. Also note that the soldiers had been told in a previous briefing that that is exactly what they should do in those circumstances.

    What followed was an absolute disgrace but what we have come to expect of our pathetic military and political leadership. The Australian Defence Force Investigative Service investigated the ‘incident’ for over two years before deciding that they were unable to conduct the investigation. No seriously it took them two years to decide that. Then they gave it to the AFP to investigate. For – you guessed it – another two years. Now finally they have concluded that there was no crime committed.

    Meanwhile, for four years, the digger’s career was on hold while he had a ‘war crime’ charge hanging over his head.

    If a similar incident had occurred in any war last century it wouldn’t have rated a mention. When Australian troops left to fight the Japs on the Kokoda Track, they left the lawyers and investigators at home where they belonged. Only after defeating the Japs did they bring the lawyers and investigators in to prosecute the enemy rather than the diggers! Unfortunately those days of moral clarity are long gone.

    The SAS soldier was just doing his job, contributing his small part to the overall effort of a final victory over the enemy. No one in the senior leadership gave a shit about him. They were more interested in winning what they regard as the moral high ground rather than defeating the Taliban. Far better for them to sacrifice a digger to what they laughably call “due process”.

    Incompetent fucking scum.

  172. Atoms for Peace

    Let’s say a prayer for the poor saps in Secret Service who drew the short straws to be on Hilderbeast detail.
    All of that bulky stuff under their jackets will be portable defib units and Webster packs.

  173. pete m

    A Lurker
    #2497213, posted on September 14, 2017 at 9:33 am
    I’m still waiting on a column from Sinc. declaiming against yesterday’s erosion of freedom of speech brought about by the Turnbull Government…

    Sinc is busy – why don’t you throw 1 together and email it to him?

  174. JC

    The higher prices are exactly and precisely how the “efficencies” in energy use are supposed to be signaled.
    Cant afford the air conditioner: Stated objective.
    Transport/vehicle prices up: Stated objective
    Cutting back on luxuries because essentials have gone up: Stated objective.

    That’s why you really have to give up on the punter’s intelligence.
    I wouldn’t say this stuff is complex, but it does need time spent researching as preponderance of MSM information is basically lies and dishonesty.

  175. Pedro the Ignorant

    The Lionel Murphy Class A papers, all 4000 pages, have been published on the Parliamentary website.

    The Oz (paywalled) is conducting an examination and will be publishing any interesting bits.

    For interested Cats, the pdf “Allegation 8” gives a clue to the content of the rest of the enquiry.
    (Warning, large file, painfully slow to load).

    Whitewash, methinks.

    The Lionel Murphy Class A Papers.

  176. Atoms for Peace

    4 years. The process is the punishment as always

  177. Mother Lode

    Media reforms ‘lead to attacks on ABC’
    PoliticsNow: Tony Burke says the government’s media reforms will give “the green light” to attacks on the ABC.

    So what? And bring it on I say, loud and hard. Rabz to the fore.

    Isn’t Mick Trumble going to introduce laws to ban criticism of the ABC?

    Yes, it would be a rather too obvious attack on free speech, but since it would be a gift to Labor and the Greens, and an enduring rod for the back of what remains of the Libs, it is exactly the kind of thing he would do.

    If he went hunting I am sure his last words would be “OK, I have it in my sights. These gun things would be much easier to hold if the wooden end was pressed against your shoulder instead of pointed at the animal. Anyway, ready…aim…”

  178. Joe

    JC:

    … but it does need time spent researching as preponderance of MSM information is basically lies and dishonesty.

    The pushback is to allow the average punter to sue the MSM for it’s lies and dishonesty. At the moment, mass media has an advantage of reach. To offset that, the individual needs the advantage of punishment.

  179. struth

    The pushback is to allow the average punter to sue the MSM for it’s lies and dishonesty. At the moment, mass media has an advantage of reach. To offset that, the individual needs the advantage of punishment.

    Excellent.
    Any professional journalist found to be presenting lies as facts should most definitely be able to be sued.
    A lot more legal responsibility for actions need to be taken in that industry.
    Every other industry has to be careful what they say.
    “My opinion is” should be heard before anything else but hard facts are heard.

  180. Roger

    It’s understood ARU officials have spoken to Folau about his stance after the board voted to support marriage equality.

    Fuck off.

    This is Australia, not Stalinist Russia.

    Not yet, anyway.

  181. H B Bear

    I’m still waiting on a column from Sinc. declaiming against yesterday’s erosion of freedom of speech brought about by the Turnbull Government…

    Yes very light on for Potential Greatness.

    Let me have a try, “But he isn’t Tony Abbott.”

  182. A Lurker

    Sinc is busy – why don’t you throw 1 together and email it to him?

    I remember a time (only a couple of years ago) when Abbott was in office and he had backtracked on S18C. Catallaxy for days on end had posts by Sinc. declaiming against Abbott’s non-action.

    Now Turnbull is PM and has brought in a new law further eroding free speech and it has been a big silence from Sinc.

    Merely pointing out the deafening silence from the LDP Libertarians here.

  183. Roger

    The question has been asked, Roger. Can those with twitter accounts retweet or like. Let’s try and get a response from the ARU.

    Thanks dover.

    I’m not on Twitter; please keep us informed.

    I’ll follow up by more traditional methods.

  184. C.L.

    I asked yesterday who or what was the policing authority for the Liberal government’s new ban on free speech. I learn today that this power is vested solely in the hands of George Brandis. He has made himself Thought Police Czar. Now, here’s the thing. We all know Brandis isn’t going to send in the AFP ‘police’ against anybody. A Yes campaigner could take a crap on Margaret Court’s doorstep and Brandis would do nothing. Flipside: being a manipulative left-wing luvvie, he won’t boost the sympathy vote of the No campaign by arresting any of its supporters either. Terry O’Gorman of the Australian Council for Civil Liberties has this morning condemned the Turnbull speech ban, to his credit. He also said the whole thing was “gesture politics” and totally meaningless as an enforceable law. Correct. What Brandis did yesterday, stated simply, was try to scare No supporters into silence by telling them they could be bankrupted or jailed. This was done at the behest of the Gaystapo.

  185. C.L.

    Abbott saves home:

    Tony Abbott has been hailed as a hero after saving a house from ember attack while battling a bushfire burning near his Sydney northern beaches electorate of Warringah.

    The former prime minister has ditched parliament in Canberra, taking emergency services leave to man water pumps for his local Davidson Rural Fire Brigade, where he has volunteered since 2001.

    This afternoon embers from the Beacon Hill bushfire ignited local resident Barry Cafe’s fence.

    Mr Cafe told local paper the Manly Daily that it wasn’t every day that a former prime minister saves your home.

    “I told everybody, ‘I’m fine, Tony’s here’,” he said.

  186. Philippa Martyr

    Now Turnbull is PM and has brought in a new law further eroding free speech and it has been a big silence from Sinc.

    Merely pointing out the deafening silence from the LDP Libertarians here.

    Doomlord is out of the country and in a different time zone, which might account for it.

    The IPA released a response quick smart, though.

    Having said that, my nephew is being vilified in his workplace for his opinions on the survey, so he has taken in a copy of the newspaper report of the new legislation today, which he intends to use if he is attacked again.

    It’s awful how it hits you so close to home. I’ve been called everything you can imagine, but I’m a chubby 47 year old with a very sharp tongue. He’s not; he’s just a kid, and he’s just trying to do his job.

    Thus malice doth make cowards of us all.

  187. C.L.

    Can you imagine if your house was burning down and Bill Shorten rocked up?

  188. Roger

    How threatening did Kerryn Phelps get with Israel Folau on Twitter last night?

    It could be construed as using a carriage service to menace or vilify in regard to the survey because of his religious convictions, in which case I’m sure George will be straight onto it.

  189. Philippa Martyr

    Mr Cafe told local paper the Manly Daily that it wasn’t every day that a former prime minister saves your home.

    “I told everybody, ‘I’m fine, Tony’s here’,” he said.

    Good. He should stick to that. He’s clearly good at it.

    I saw Tony Abbott for the first time in real life at the Samuel Griffith Society annual conference in Perth just recently. I felt sorry for him for nearly 24 hours, till he sniped at David Leyonhjelm in the q & a after Abbott’s speech (which was purportedly on how the Senate should be bulldozed reformed, but was actually an elaborate justification of his government’s bungling, long after the fact.)

    He was very defensive and dealt some low blows, and I saw a side of him I had never seen before. And I didn’t like what I saw. I know politics is a dirty game, but suddenly other things fell into place.

    I wouldn’t describe myself as a huge fan of the LDP or its policies, but I certainly have time for the Senator, who is a very necessary burr in the frillies of what’s left of the Libs.

  190. OldOzzie

    EDITORIAL: PM TURNBULL’S POLICY OF SUBSIDISING OF COAL INDUSTRY IS NOBLE BUT MISGUIDED

    The drive towards renewable energy saw a new word introduced to Australia’s energy discussion — subsidies. Because renewable energy sources are not sufficiently ­developed to compete on a level playing field with traditional and reliable energy sources such as coal, they needed to be subsidised in order to become financially viable.

    So Australia, committed to various international commitments on emissions levels, went heavily towards subsidies for solar and wind. That has now led us to a curious position.

    With the reliability of large-scale power delivery under threat, Malcolm Turnbull’s ­Coalition government is now supporting a Clean Energy ­Target that includes financial incentives for coal-fired power.

    These incentives will take the form of further subsidies.

    The aim of this policy is noble enough. Without sufficient coal-fired power, the nation faces further risk of blackouts and more blowouts in power bills, already running at ridiculous levels.

    But consider the broader picture. Australia has massive coal reserves. But through an extraordinarily twisted process of politics and misguided climate ambitions, we now stand ready to subsidise our single most abundant energy resource — so it can compete with other subsidised energy forms.

    This makes no sense whatsoever. For his part, Turnbull continues to talk up coal as an important part of the answer to the energy crisis.

    “Our focus is on ensuring Australians have affordable and reliable power so the lights come on, stay on and NSW residents can afford to keep them on,” he said.

    PIERS AKERMAN: Forget SSM, shine the light on our power crisis

    “Our energy policy is based on engineering and economics, not ideology and idiocy. We have an ‘all of the above’ ­approach to energy — gas, solar, pumped hydro, coal, solar ­thermal and batteries.”

    The PM is a big fan of diversity, at least so far as energy is concerned. But ordinary Australians don’t particularly care about energy sources. They care about energy availability and energy cost.

    If the PM is truly committed to an energy policy based on ­engineering and economics, coal is the clear winner.

    And as far as steering clear of ideology and idiocy go, the government would do well to devise an energy structure that ­involves no subsidies.

  191. Bruce of Newcastle

    Any professional journalist found to be presenting lies as facts should most definitely be able to be sued.

    This recent story shows the problem with that idea.

    Judge rejects Sarah Palin lawsuit against The New York Times

    You will not be surprised by the judge’s wiki.

  192. John64

    Now Turnbull is PM and has brought in a new law further eroding free speech and it has been a big silence from Sinc.

    It is quite piquant that, on the eve of Potential Greatness Day™, the Trumball Coalition Team™ is ramming through the Senate with the support of The Liars legislation described by Cory Bernadi as “18C on steroids”.

  193. Geriatric Mayfly

    Can you imagine if your house was burning down and Bill Shorten rocked up?

    He wouldn’t be there to help. More than likely on site to check union affiliation of any firefighters who might arrive to douse the flames.

  194. Mother Lode

    Yes very light on for Potential Greatness.

    Let me have a try, “But he isn’t Tony Abbott.”

    Well, Mick Trumble isn’t a disappointment. In fact, he has exceeded all my expectations.

    I knew he would be crap but, my God…

  195. johanna

    A bit earlier a Trivago ad came on. There’s your girlfriend, I say companionably to Hairy. She’s not my girlfriend .. yet, he replies. I look up from reading the Cat on the sofa and give him my enquiring stare. He dances around merrily, enjoying dis. I turn the stare into that French tromp d’oeil that brooks no opposition. He retreats, and we watch Rita Panini for a while on Bolt. She is cute, I say as she expounds very cleverly on the power crisis. I know you like her, I admit to Hairy. You have my permission, I say grandly. Just been reading Philippa Gregory’s latest, where Queen Eliz 1 gets very grand and controlling over the other likely Tudor heirs – the family lineage of Lady Jane Grey. Must have rubbed off a bit.

    Today we went to a matinee performance (Hairy got special tickets which is why it was matinee) of My Fair Lady. He knows I like this show and wanted to surprise me. He left work and picked me up at 12.15 and drove us in, deciding to sing some of da songs to me on the way. He has a trained voice, choral scholar, and put us both in the mood. I will tell you more about this performance later. We found it very good to getg away from the modern world for a while, and so may you.

    FFS, Lizzie, send your twee dribbles to Daily Life, or Mamma Mia, or some other vacuous site that might care about your domestic trivia and “perfect” life. That’s when you’re not being the star of Angela’s Ashes. And the boasting, you just can’t help yourself (see bolding). Ugh.

    How’s the book going? You know, the one you’ve been telling all and sundry about for years and years and years?

    (Anybody at all over the last several years) “Hi Lizzie, what are you up to?

    Lizzie: (Blushes becomingly and casts gorgeous blue eyes down) I’m writing a book.

    AAA: Awesome! I remember that you were writing one five years ago. How did that one go?

    Lizzie: More champagne, waiter!

    Lift your game.

  196. Philippa Martyr

    It is quite piquant that, on the eve of Potential Greatness Day™, the Trumball Coalition Team™ is ramming through the Senate with the support of The Liars legislation described by Cory Bernadi as “18C on steroids”.

    Well, Mick Trumble isn’t a disappointment. In fact, he has exceeded all my expectations.

    I knew he would be crap but, my God…

    Awwww you guys. You are da bomb. Only one more day to go. I’m excited!

  197. test pattern

    ‘I couldn’t help thinking, “Wait a moment, didn’t those people originally come from Bangladesh?” ‘

    I couldn’t help thinking what a useful idiot u r disseminating Tatmadaw propaganda for them to justify genocide

  198. Snoopy

    Can you imagine if your house was burning down and Bill Shorten rocked up?

    It is very common for pyromaniacs to hang around observing the results of their handiwork. Some have even offered to help.

  199. OldOzzie

    NO APOLOGY FOR YES CAMPAIGNER’S VILE TWEET – Miranda Devine

    I BLOCKED Benjamin Law years ago, when he was a bottom-feeding blogger harassing me on Twitter.

    And so of course it was no surprise to me when he was hired by Fairfax as a weekly columnist, feted at various writer’s festivals and finally washing up at the ABC.

    But surely tolerating hate speech has its limits when it comes to inciting violent sex against same sex marriage opponents in parliament?

    Because, for all his protestations that he was just joking, that’s exactly what his tweet was.

    “Sometimes find myself wondering if I’d hate-f**k [he spelled it out] all the anti-gay MPs in parliament if it meant they got the homophobia out of their system.”

    As if that weren’t bad enough he then cited West Australian Liberal MP Andrew Hastie as a specific target; responding to a comment suggesting, “start with Hastie”, he tweeted: “(sighs heavily, unzips pants)”.

    Yet none of his employers have even distanced themselves from Law.

    Incredibly, the prestigious Waverley girls’ school, St Catherine’s, even posted in support of Law on Facebook on Monday night: “The utterly charming Benjamin Law spoke at St Catherine’s during Book Week and entertained students staff and parents alike.”

    The post was deleted yesterday but you have to wonder about the due diligence on children’s role models these days.

    The ABC, likewise, rewarded Law by giving him an hour this week to promote a turgid Quarterly Essay.

    And instead of taking the opportunity to apologise or retract his comments he doubled down on Hastie.

    “Sure, the member for Canning has decent cheekbones, but he’s a little too clean-cut for my tastes.”

    Law then tried to downplay his offence, saying “Hate f..king is a Gen Y term: consensual sex with someone disagreeable.”

    The online Urban Dictionary defines the term in far more sinister terms as “an act of aggressive sex with someone as if they had no respect for that person as an equal human being … usually entails aggressive, sometimes violent, degrading and humiliating sexual acts perpetrated by an aggressive party on a submissive.”

    How degraded our culture has become when such vulgar language is common currency among members of the media employed by once reputable institutions.

    In any case, Law’s pretence that he was referring to a “consensual” act is laughable.

    “Noting my skills acquired in my previous ­career I’d like to see him try,” said Hastie, a former SAS operative. “If anyone on the No campaign jokingly suggested using sex as a weapon against Yes campaigners, there’d be immediate calls for their resignation and marginalisation. Instead this guy gets a 20,000-word platform from Quarterly Essay.”

    Yes, Law has written a Quarterly Essay demanding the Safe Schools program be instituted in every Australian school … because he thinks it’s important to stamp out bullying. Oh, the irony.

    Surely the taxpayer-funded ABC has a duty not to embolden an activist so unhinged and entitled he won’t even apologise.

  200. OldOzzie

    AGL ‘anti-competitive’

    The competition watchdog has labelled AGL’s ownership of two Hunter Valley coal stations as “anti-competitive” and says it should never have been allowed to happen.

    ACCC chief Rod Sims said consumers were paying the price for AGL owning both the Liddell and Bayswater power plants, which the watchdog tried to stop from happening in 2014 by warning against the AGL’s acquisition of Macquarie Generation.

    “We do think the merger we tried to stop is having an effect on increasing power prices right now. I can’t quantify what it is but I’d be very confident that it is,” Mr Sims told the The Australian Financial Review.

    “You’ve got three players there and with the demand-supply balance getting tighter with Hazelwood and Northern out, that just means that when you’ve got less players they’re in a stronger position.”

    The Australian reported in July Mr Sims’ warnings that of problems with state governments loosening the regulations on distribution monopolies in part to boost the privatisation proceeds.

  201. H B Bear

    Another fine contribution to the Australian canon from Morry’s J e w i s h Vanity Press.

  202. mh

    From The Daily Caller:

    Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s campaign memoir includes a questionable interpretation of the central lesson of George Orwell’s novel “1984,” namely that individuals should trust those in positions of authority.

    Clinton’s memoir “What Happened,” released Tuesday, suggests the goal of the government-sanctioned torture featured prominently in Orwell’s novel is to erode trust in the authoritarian overlords who control all aspects of society. This perspective is diametrically opposed to the central lesson most readers have drawn from the book since it was published in 1949.

    “Attempting to define reality is a core feature of authoritarianism. This is what the Soviets did when they erased political dissidents from historical photos. This is what happens in George Orwell’s classic novel Nineteen Eighty-Four, when a torturer holds up four fingers and delivers electric shocks until his prisoner sees five fingers as ordered. The goal is to make you question logic and reason and to sow mistrust toward exactly the people we need to rely on: our leaders, the press, ex-perts who seek to guide public policy based on evidence, ourselves. For Trump, as with so much he does, it’s about simple dominance.”

    There is no shortage of attempts to conform the lessons of “1984” to a range of modern political contexts, but Clinton’s interpretation stretches the broad limits of literary interpretation.

    The origin of Clinton’s counterintuitive interpretation of the work is unclear. Somehow, after reading a terrifying account of government overreach creeping into every aspect of human life and choice, Clinton drew the lesson that individuals should be able to trust the government, and society’s various information gatekeepers.

    A number of Clintons’ fellow Democrats have condemned the contents of the campaign memoir as unnecessarily divisive and derided her for the timing of its release. One former Clinton staffer told Politico that Clinton’s book release and the resulting news cycle was her “final torture” for the party.

  203. Geriatric Mayfly

    Frydenberg on his hind trotters, stirring up the House into an unseemly state of affairs.

  204. test pattern

    ‘Justice Bellew found the government had not put the asylum-seekers at any risk of harm, that it did not direct the vessel to navigate to Australia, did not control the weather, did not know anything about the skill of those ­operating the vessel and had “no control over the primitive nature of the vessel”. ‘

    The Rudd Gov nevertheless indirectly acknowledged responsibility and moved to ensure it wouldn’t happen again by installing a new permanent radar. It is this radar, not OSB, that has protected lives. But SHHHH don’t tell the media!

    SHARPEYE FOR CHRISTMAS ISLAND COASTAL SURVEILLANCE

    ‘ 16 Dec 2013
    Kelvin Hughes is delighted to announce the permanent installation of an S-Band SharpEye™ radar and antenna on Christmas Island in the Indian Ocean.

    An Australian territory, located 2,600 kilometres northwest of Perth, Christmas Island has been regularly used by immigrants and asylum seekers as a pathway to obtaining refugee status. This has placed significant pressure on the Australian government with its duty of care requirements, creating a need for a permanent radar installation on the island.’

    https://www.kelvinhughes.com/news/119-sharpeye-for-coastal-surveillance

  205. Snoopy

    ‘I couldn’t help thinking, “Wait a moment, didn’t those people originally come from Bangladesh?” ‘
    I couldn’t help thinking what a useful idiot u r disseminating Tatmadaw propaganda for them to justify genocide

    What have you got against conflict resolution?

  206. test pattern

    ‘Mr Bin Fadal, 77, said his mother’s face appeared in the glass of his round metal helmet before he blacked out. His torso tightened, then he saw his mother’s image and the Arabic word for God.’

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-13/diving-into-history-in-australias-pearl-capital/8940174

  207. Tintarella di Luna

    Can you imagine if your house was burning down and Bill Shorten rocked up?

    It is very common for pyromaniacs to hang around observing the results of their handiwork. Some have even offered to help.

    Wouldn’t do a thing unless the cameras arrived.

  208. C.L.

    How threatening did Kerryn Phelps get with Israel Folau on Twitter last night?

    It could be construed as using a carriage service to menace or vilify …

    Examples?

  209. Stimpson J. Cat

    Merely pointing out the deafening silence from the LDP Libertarians here.

    No one could or would hear them anyway.
    So it really makes no difference.
    Neither do they.

  210. Snoopy

    SharpEye™

    That’s cultural appropriation.

  211. Roger

    Examples?

    Yes,please; a few here were following it.

  212. C.L.

    The Bahnisch sausage jockeys of the LDP are weighing it up thus:

    On one hand, there’s free speech. That’s important, to be sure.
    But on the other hand, we can’t be seen in the company of Margaret Court. Yucky-poo.
    Ergo: say nothing.

  213. Stimpson J. Cat

    I think it’s time to start redefining SSM for what it really stands for:

    Same Stupid Malcolm.

  214. C.L.

    I checked her Twitter page, Roger; can’t see any menacing or vilification of Folau.

  215. cynical1

    Any professional journalist found to be presenting lies as facts should most definitely be able to be sued.

    What about a TV network photoshopping posters onto clear window panes?

  216. test pattern

    ‘conflict resolution’

    The name for a start. Irenology. Secondly, the Tatmadaw do the same to Christian Karen and used to do it to Buddhist Karen. Religion ie superstition is just propaganda used by ambitious individuals to mobilise support of the numpties. As always, conflict is driven by material secular factors. Wealth, power, geography and so on and so forth.

  217. Boambee John

    On the subject of “gender fluidity”, would there be value in making a clear distinction between sex and gender?

    Sex would be determined by physiology. If you have a penis and testicles then your sex is male. Vagina and ovaries identifies a female. Gender is whatever you feelz.

    Use of public facilities would be determined by sex. P and Ts, use the males’ toilets, change rooms and jails. V and Os, use the females’. If your “feelz” are such that you are not prepared to do this, use the disabled facilities.

    Is this worth developing further?

  218. hzhousewife

    I suppose it is anti-competitive to own two motels, or two rental units or even two taxi licences now?

  219. Boambee John

    Snoopy at 1218

    What have you got against conflict resolution?

    If applied successfully to matters indigenous, test pattern would be unemployed, and have to spend his days exploiting young indigenous females.

  220. Tom

    Wow. No way I could have seen this coming a year ago during the primaries. Donald Trump’s chief defender and fully paid up Trump Train enthusiast in Washington is Senator Ted Cruz, imploring Congress and the McConnell-Ryan GOP establishment to get tax reform done “and unleash Reaganesque* economic growth.”
    Google Ted Cruz-Sean Hannity/past 24 hours/youtube.com.
    *~7% p.a. — amazing! — but few remember.

    PS: Where is low-energy Jeb?

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