Thursday Forum: September 21, 2017

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  1. Leigh Lowe

    Poofter bashing has made a comeback.
    Except the bashing is now being done for and in behalf of gays.

  2. Yes LL, my point is that no one’s vote will be changed. The polls have not moved all that much. Just depends on turnout, and from reports Yes voter enthusiasm is greater than No.

    Valiant effort by you lot, credit where it’s due. Kids, you tried your best, and you failed miserably. The lesson is: never try.

  3. No sport that also has a World Championship event more frequently than every four years should be allowed to participate in the Olympics.

    The Olympic soccer event should be scrapped. It is an under-23 competition, designed to stop the Olympics from rivalling the World Cup.

  4. srr

    JUDGE: OK TO STARVE DISABLED PATIENTS WITHOUT COURT ORDER
    ‘It seems absurd to require a costly process to confirm this’

    http://www.wnd.com/2017/09/judge-ok-to-starve-disabled-patients-without-court-order/?cat_orig=health

  5. So is Astro Lube a far-left Socialist or a far-right Socialist? The difference between the two is so narrow it’s impossible to tell.

  6. Empire GTHO Phase III

    #2504935, posted on September 22, 2017 at 8:57 pm
    Abbott over reacted to getting headbutted in the street by a bloke who offered to shake his hand first. Fucking hell m0nty, you are a fucking chin dribbling spastic.

    He’s nothing of the sort. He is a lucid liar for hire who both condones and incites violence. Granted, the self inflicted pancreatic chaos probably fuels the pre-existing rage.

  7. egg_

    The polls have not moved all that much.

    Watch the “late swinging Conservative vote” that always decides the outcome.

  8. jupes

    And how rubbish are Geelong?

    Not that bad. Good comeback by the Cats and especially Dangerfield.

    How can such a gay-arse organisation as the AFL produce such a magnificent product? Seriously, it is one of life’s great mysteries.

  9. I like how you lot are making up silly nicknames for the bloke, as if he’ll see them and feel bad. He named himself Astro Labe! He clearly doesn’t give a tinker’s cuss about sounding like a clown.

  10. areff

    Have a Bex Ratsak and a lay down mUnter.

    Fixed.

  11. Muddy

    Apologies for the length:
    U.S. Center for Security Policy.

    Who is Attacking U.S. Diplomats in Cuba?

    Until the U.S. can figure out what is causing the U.S. and Canadian diplomats in Cuba serious health issues, it won’t be able to determine who is responsible for a series of what have been described as possible “sonic attacks”.

    In November of 2016 until the spring of 2017, U.S. and Canadian diplomats started reported symptoms of permanent hearing loss or concussions, while others suffered nausea, headaches and ear-ringing. The symptoms were so bad for some that they had to return to the U.S. for treatment.

    The health concerns of the diplomats only came to light in August, almost a year after the first symptoms were reported. The U.S. also confirmed that the latest incident occurred in August and 21 of their employees were suffering from symptoms.

    In June, five Canadian diplomats and family members reported experiencing symptoms consistent with the symptoms U.S. diplomats experienced.

    Some U.S. officials have said that the hearing loss was caused by a possible sonar device placed either inside or near the diplomats’ residences. The employees affected were not at the same place at the same time, and have recounted different symptoms and different recollections of what happened during the incidents. Some felt vibrations and heard sounds while others heard and felt nothing and their symptoms appeared later.

    U.S. officials believe the symptoms were caused by an advanced acoustic or sonic device that operated outside the range of audible sound but a number of experts aren’t sure whether such a device exists. It is also unlikely that a device exists that is causing such a wide array of physical responses.

    When U.S. officials spoke with President Raúl Castro about the incidents happening in Havana, he denied any responsibility and has promised to cooperate with the ongoing investigation.

    The U.S. is uncertain about whether Cuba is the perpetrator of the attacks or whether a third party, or rogue group in Cuba is responsible.

    Since these attacks are still happening and it is still unclear how they are occurring and who is responsible, the U.S. has debated closing down the U.S. Embassy in Havana. Earlier this year, the U.S. sent home two Cuban diplomats from the Cuban Embassy as retaliation for the Cuban government failing to protect the U.S. people in its country.

    The Cuban government a history of harassing U.S. personnel in Cuba for decades but after the U.S. formally restored relations with Cuba in 2015, the campaign of harassment ended until these incidents began in late 2016. The Cuban government physically and psychologically harassed U.S. employees through surveillance, searching their residences, delaying shipments and limiting travel of U.S. personnel within Havana.

    While Cuba has a track record of harassment of U.S. diplomats, the same cannot be said of Canadian officials. Cuba and Canada have maintained a mutually beneficial relationship for over 70 years with close social and economic ties. It’s unclear why Cuba would target Canadian citizens, given this history.

    It’s possible the perpetrator may be a third party country such as Russia, or Venezuela, in an attempt to damage the relationship between the U.S. and Cuba; but if there is any evidence which would suggest the nature of perpetrators it has not been publicly revealed.

    Russian intelligence has a history of harassing foreign diplomats, even injuring a U.S.Embassy employee in the past. The Russian government has closed U.S. diplomatic sites and expelled U.S. diplomats in the past year, leading to a U.S. response. They are perhaps also the adversary most likely to have access to technology necessary for such an attack.

    Another potential suspect is Venezuela, whose possible motive would be retaliation against the U.S for sanctioning Venezuelan leaders. Cuba and Venezuela have close relations, and U.S.-Venezuelan ties have degenerated since pro-democracy protests broke out in the South American Country. President Obama instituted sanctions against Venezuelan leaders in March of 2015, a policy President Trump has since expanded.

    While there’s no evidence to rule out a rogue group or non-state actor, given that Cuba is a communist government with tight controls over the country and an efficient internal security forces, it is questionable how a non-state actor would manage to conduct such an attack and remain undetected absent state support.

    Whichever part is carrying out the attacks, ultimately Cuba bears the responsibility for protecting diplomats in their nation, and their failure to do so is likely to dampen enthusiasm for continuing to improve U.S.-Cuban relations.

  12. egg_

    He named himself Astro Labe!

    Gastro Lube?

  13. Muddy

    For dedicated military or military history nerds:
    Some interesting looking topics in the latest issue of the U.S. Military Review (free pdf download), including “Weaponising Ridicule,” recent Russian information operations, IS and ‘Lone Wolf Attacks,’ and a review of The Ghost Warriors about the Israeli counter-terror unit (which I recall Zulu mentioning just recently).

  14. stackja

    Muddy
    #2504953, posted on September 22, 2017 at 9:20 pm

    Alan Jones talked to US correspondent Harley Carnes, ‎Monday, ‎18 ‎September ‎2017 about sonic attack.

  15. harrys on the boat

    m0nty thinks a sitting member of Parliament, who happens to be an ex Prime Minister, over reacted to getting head butted in the street by nasty little fuck. m0nty is far as fuck and mentally ill.

    PS Trump is on fire on twitter

  16. Leo G

    Just depends on turnout, and from reports Yes voter enthusiasm is greater than No.

    You argue that the postal vote has such a strong response bias favouring the Yes cause that nothing can nix the fix.

  17. Gab

    I heard Abbott on Price show last night. He downplayed the incident.

  18. Muddy

    Thanks stackja. I’m off the mainstream grid when it to comes to the media. It sounds like something out of Get Smart. It’s strange to be aiming for disruption on such a small scale though.

  19. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    ’ and a review of The Ghost Warriors about the Israeli counter-terror unit (which I recall Zulu mentioning just recently).

    Thanks muddy – I can recommend Samuel Katz’s book – the review does it justice.

  20. Leo G

    He named himself Astro Labe!

    He has advertised for Hobart DJ venues under the handle “Funknukl”.

  21. rickw

    A fat little man like you Monty should be terrified.

    You will not like a violent world.

    Well said.

    Typical leftist, all street fighting n up the workers until someone smashes their teeth out, then it’s “get me the police I’ve been assaulted!!”.

  22. cohenite

    Tracey Spicer ✔ @TraceySpicer
    “I wanted to nut the c*nt.”

    What a grub and this thing is a prominent media newsreader.

    There are a lot of problems with this country but lowlifes like this creature and the media generally are at the top of the list.

  23. rickw

    m0nty thinks a sitting member of Parliament, who happens to be an ex Prime Minister, over reacted to getting head butted in the street by nasty little fuck. m0nty is far as fuck and mentally ill.

    As a leftist, by definition he’s mentally ill.

  24. I heard Abbott on Price show last night. He downplayed the incident.

    Mmyes Gab, he downplayed it in a string of media appearances. No no, I don’t really want to go on about it, he said at length.

  25. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    He named himself Astro Labe!

    How do you pronounce that anyway? Is it a typo? Lab, Labia.

  26. Gab

    “A fellow sung out at me ‘Hey Tony’, I turned around, there was a chap wearing a ‘Vote Yes” badge,” Mr Abbott alleged.

    “He said ‘I wanna shake your hand’.

    “I went over to shake his hand, and then he headbutted me.

    “He wasn’t very good at it, I’ve got to say, but he did make contact.

    The only damage was a very, very slightly swollen lip.

    Mmyes, monty, I can see how Abbott “overreacted”. Uh-huh. Quite hysterical.

  27. 132andBush

    I do not condone headbutting anyone who isn’t a Nazi, politicians included. (And no, I don’t have a loose definition of a Nazi.) Astro Labe is a clown, and deserves whatever Plod has in store for him. You can’t just nut someone because you don’t like him.

    Meanwhile, Abbott has completely overreacted to a very minor incident, just like Bolt. No one’s SSM vote is going to be changed by this incident, much as Abbott may try. No one’s listening to him any more, he’s fighting culture wars that have long since been lost.

    The greatest load of tosh and wishful thinking posted by you in ages.
    Well done!

  28. cohenite

    Meanwhile, Abbott has completely overreacted to a very minor incident, just like Bolt.

    No, I don’t think so; getting assaulted as you go about your business is a stressful event.

    The hypocrisy of the left is, if it happens to them, they scream blue murder.

  29. jupes

    Great game in Adelaide but it looks like it might be beyond the Cats at 3/4 time.

  30. Gab

    The hypocrisy of the left is, if it happens to them, they scream blue murder.

    And for weeks on end too!

  31. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Typical leftist, all street fighting n up the workers until someone smashes their teeth out, then it’s “get me the police I’ve been assaulted!!”.

    Precisely the situation. Typical leftist/anarchist. All street fighting – “Up the Workers” “We will use violence to smash the rotten and corrupt capitalist system” and when they get their poor pathetic, little arses handed to them on a platter, then it’s ” I know my rights. Get me the police, I’ve been assaulted. What will Mummy and Daddy say?”

  32. Snoopy

    Kevin Rudd’s godson was bashed, leaving him with a shockingly bruised and bloodied face.

    Mendacious mugwump:

    1. Show me evidence of the shocking bruise;
    2, Provide evidence the wound was caused by the assault.

  33. I think he’s still on the phone talking about it to Steve Price, Gab. Currently they’re debating the merits of the Hobart DJ scene, and going deep into the history of astronomical observation equipment.

  34. stackja

    Muddy
    #2504965, posted on September 22, 2017 at 9:43 pm
    Thanks stackja. I’m off the mainstream grid when it to comes to the media. It sounds like something out of Get Smart. It’s strange to be aiming for disruption on such a small scale though.

    Impacting USA embassy staff, some having to go to USA for treatment.
    Alan Jones talks to US correspondent Harley Carnes US Report – 18th September 2017
    Download this podcast here mp3

  35. Slayer of Memes

    The ABC can reveal Astro Labe, a Hobart DJ, as the man charged by police over the incident.

    I must state in no uncertain terms that this has nothing whatsoever to do with marriage equality,” Labe said.

    At least 5 hours after #TheirABC and the rest of the Leftist MSM had been running the whole “we musn’t assume that just because he was wearing a ‘Yes’ badge that it was about the SSM survery… *HINT HINT NUDGE NUDGE*”

    They really do take the majority of Australians for fools…

  36. Boambee John

    m0nty has a lot to say this evening.

    The GetUp talking points email must finally have arrived. It took them a long time to come up with such a weak “narrative”!

  37. harrys on the boat

    This is what a xunt of a man you are.

    I think he’s still on the phone talking about it to Steve Price, Gab. Currently they’re debating the merits of the Hobart DJ scene, and going deep into the history of astronomical observation equipment.

    You just made that shit up to back up your baseless claim. JC, get here and take your pathetic bitch home.

  38. I can only marvel at how lucky we are in Australia, that this sort of tomfoolery is much more common than anything serious. If this was the US, guns would have been involved and people would have been shot.

  39. m0nty
    #2504923, posted on September 22, 2017 at 8:38 pm
    …Meanwhile, Abbott has completely overreacted to a very minor incident…

    The M0ntys of this country will not be happy until a former Australian PM is killed in a very minor incident.
    This issue is huge. An attack on the former PM must raise significant concerns because M0nty and his crowd are excusing violence because Abbott is hated. That hatred is widespread. Hence there is potential for attacks against him to keep escalating, with continued excuse-making from the ABC, SMH, and M0nty.
    When the unthinkable happens, they will wonder why.

    Oh by the way M0nty, the head butt and slightly swollen lip is not the incident. That a current MP and former PM can be successfully assaulted by a no-name fool points to a large gap in our defences against the increasingly violent left.

  40. cohenite

    Kevin Rudd’s godson was bashed, leaving him with a shockingly bruised and bloodied face.

    I saw the photo; noway was this chip off the demented block assaulted. He had a neat perpendicular incision from the middle of his pinhead to midway down his nose. No bruising.

  41. The Broderick review found despite women holding senior positions at the university, a “dominant masculine culture” existed…

    I’ve never encountered a ‘dominant masculine culture’ at university. These reports are complete bullshit but they are done so SJWs can reference a bold claim that will be dutifully reported by the media, and used by other ‘academics’.

  42. Boambee John

    no, I don’t have a loose definition of a Nazi

    Perhaps you could enlighten us by posting that definition.

    Would tomorrow by 0800 give you time to make one up?

  43. cohenite

    If this was the US, guns would have been involved and people would have been shot.

    The vast majority of gun crime in the US is done by blacks. Usually on other blacks.

  44. C.L.

    Turnbull must immediately demand the resignation of his AG.

    The chief legal officer of the Commonwealth just prejudiced a prosecution. He is clearly unfit for the job.

    Brandis is a disgrace as A-G. An absolute disgrace.

  45. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    If this was the US, guns would have been involved and people would have been shot.

    You say it like it’s a bad thing.

  46. zyconoclast

    Squalid said he’d vote Yes?

    My understanding is a true Muslim votes No. Strict rituals and guidelines with their faith.

    Waleed seems more Western and almost atheist as he never mentions his personal beliefs, we just assume he has them. He could be one of the non practicing ones like Sam Dastaryi.

    Taqiyya (also spelled taqiya, taqiyah, or taqiyyah) is a form of Islamic deception. The Quran (16:106 and 3:28) allows Muslims to lie in order to protect themselves or to protect the Muslim community. Protecting the Muslim community, however, involves lying about jihad and portraying Islam as a religion of peace.

  47. Gab

    Not about SS”M”? Oh really?

    Garth Godsman‏ @GarthGodsman

    Abbott’s attacker: ‘You fucking deserve this for what you’ve been saying.’ Whatever could he mean? #auspol

  48. Boambee John

    guns would have been involved and people would have been shot.

    You are quite correct m0nty.

    We must ensure that rabid left fascists have no access to weapons. Abbott could have been killed!

  49. Snoopy

    Meanwhile, Abbott has completely overreacted to a very minor incident, just like Bolt

    I think it’s time I made a visit to Melbourne.

  50. Top Ender

    Watched Victoria and Abdul at the flicks, courtesy of a free double pass.

    Beautifully shot, produced, and acted.

    Otherwise, simplistic virtue-signalling rubbish purporting to be true.

    I shall pen some thoughts.

  51. OneWorldGovernment

    And I will tear the throat out of ANYONE that does not understand the arsehole that runs AGL that he was not trained by ENRON.

    Is that a DEATH THREAT..

    Maybe.

    I want to see ALL inner city CBD’s and suburbs survive on their brilliant windmills and solar death panels.

    Lets see how long you can live you fucking arseholes.

  52. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Meanwhile, Abbott has completely overreacted to a very minor incident, just like Bolt.

    No, I don’t think so; getting assaulted as you go about your business is a stressful event.

    Andrew Bolt is nearly 60. Over the past few years, he’s received death threats to the point where he’s moved house. He’s minding his own business, on his way to an interview, when he’s jumped from behind by two masked persons. Knife attack? Acid attack? The resident Cardboard Commando of the Cat criticizes Bolt for overreacting. I’ve news for said Cardboard Commando – I may have various anti social skills, but I would have used one of the cafe stools close handy, and smashed both the little snowflakes into the next postcode.

  53. Boambee John

    So m0nty arrives gurgling with delight that some left fsscist nut case has assaulted Abbott.

    Then he reads to the end of the talking points email and realises that he has to not condone headbutting anyone who isn’t a Nazi, rather than delighting in it
    So he starts to walk back his rhetoric.

  54. Snoopy

    Watched Victoria and Abdul at the flicks, courtesy of a free double pass.

    Beautifully shot, produced, and acted.

    Otherwise, simplistic virtue-signalling rubbish purporting to be true.

    I detect some hate speech there. Ask Eddie McGuire for forgiveness.

  55. Greens senator Janet Rice can almost laugh at the subversive nature of her marriage. Almost. For 31 years she has been married to Penny Whetton​, a climatologist who – when the pair met at university, fell in love and later married – was living as a man.

    “We keep on talking about our relationship because it highlights how ridiculous our current law is, which says our relationship is lesser now that Penny has transitioned. But we are officially a same-sex marriage given she has transitioned,” Senator Rice says.

    Well, Penny may have ‘transitioned’ but he is still a man and therefore there is no ridiculousness, beyond that of Penny’s pretense, in the law. Marriage just is a relationship between the sexes. This does not necessarily raise it ‘above’ other types of relationship, it just means it is ordered to different ends.

  56. OneWorldGovernment

    QANTAS, BHP, all the banks can get fucked.

    We will create our own universities, banks and businesses.

    The dumb c*nts will starve to death.

  57. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I shall pen some thoughts.

    I would welcome that, Top Ender – – the Memsahib enjoyed “Her Majesty Mrs Brown” and there are mutterings in the camp..

  58. Boambee John

    left fascist even, though that is tautological.

    Really only have to say left!

  59. Boambee John

    m0nty

    I look forward to reading your tight, carefully drafted, definition of Nazi in the morning.

    Night night!

  60. Gab

    I’ve only watched the preview of Victoria & Abdul.

    The long and the short of it: muslims good, non-muslims bad.

  61. Slayer of Memes

    no, I don’t have a loose definition of a Nazi

    Perhaps you could enlighten us by posting that definition.
    Would tomorrow by 0800 give you time to make one up?

    It’s the Malmo trip all over again….

  62. Here’s our new TV ad. Say No while you can.
    https://www.coalitionformarriage.com.au/our_ad_gay_sex_education

    “All children are required to celebrate homosexuality”
    Coalition for Marriage

    Great ad. I wonder if some parents are recalling their form at the minute as the enormity of the change implied by redefining marriage dawns on them.

  63. Nick

    Is that a threat, Snoopy?

    You’re overreacting to a minor incident Monty.

  64. zyconoclast

    Sarah was in the fertilized egg business. She had several hundred young pullets and ten roosters to fertilize the eggs.

    She kept records and any rooster not performing went into the soup pot and was replaced.

    This took a lot of time, so she bought some tiny bells and attached them to her roosters. Each bell had a different tone, so she could tell from a distance which rooster was performing. Now, she could sit on the porch and fill out an efficiency report by just listening to the bells.

    Sarah’s favorite rooster, old Butch, was a very fine specimen but, this morning she noticed old Butch’s bell hadn’t rung at all! When she went to investigate, she saw the other roosters were busy chasing pullets, bells-a-ringing, but the pullets hearing the roosters coming, would run for cover.

    To Sarah’s amazement, old Butch had his bell in his beak, so it couldn’t ring. He’d sneak up on a pullet, do his job, and walk on to the next one.

    Sarah was so proud of old Butch, she entered him in a Show and he became an overnight sensation among the judges.

    The result was the judges not only awarded old Butch the “No Bell Peace Prize” they also awarded him the “Pulletsurprise” as well.

    Clearly old Butch was a politician in the making. Who else but a politician could figure out how to win two of the most coveted awards on our planet by being the best at sneaking up on the unsuspecting populace and screwing them when they weren’t paying attention?

    Vote carefully in the next election. You can’t always hear the bells!

  65. Muddy

    Noice, zyconoclast.
    Personally, I judge by smell. If I smell dodgy when I think about them, no chance.

  66. Slayer of Memes

    Snoopy was only commenting on how he’d received an invite from MsDolittle to attend the next Melbourne Cat get-together mOnty…

    Way to over-react to such a minor incident…

  67. Gab

    Is that a threat, Snoopy?

    What if it is? You appear to applaud violence.

  68. Snoopy

    Perhaps you could enlighten us by posting that definition.
    Would tomorrow by 0800 give you time to make one up?

    Can I help? Obese, convicted drunk driver, Sam Maiden declared today that badges don’t mean anything. So on the basis of probability someone wearing a Nazi badge is probably not a Nazi.

  69. jupes

    FMD whoever wins tomorrow will have their work cut out to beat the Crows.

    What a dominating performance!

  70. Snoopy

    m0nty
    #2505016, posted on September 22, 2017 at 10:25 pm
    Is that a threat, Snoopy?

    Are you a Nazi?

  71. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Spot of spacechooking, here, for Cats, with a warped and twisted sense of humour.

    The reading, in the cold , old right wing cave, that serves as my study, is Stephen W Sears book “Lincoln’s Lieutenants – The High Command of the Army of the Potomac.” Eminently readable, and recommended for all American Civil War buffs.

    The “warped and twisted bit” comes from the last words of the Union General, John Sedgewick – shot between the eyes at Spotsylvania Courthouse, and died soon after. He was chaffing one of his men, for ducking the Confederate bullets of a sharpshooter (sniper) and saying

    “Why, man, they couldn’t hit an elephant, here, at this dist……..”

  72. Leigh Lowe

    jupes

    #2505024, posted on September 22, 2017 at 10:33 pm

    FMD whoever wins tomorrow will have their work cut out to beat the Crows.

    What a dominating performance!

    Tom Hawkins put in a shocker.

  73. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From srr at 4:50 pm:

    “… hospital security camera –

    Britain …

    VIDEO: Disgusting behaviour of Muslim man toward hospital receptionist!
    https://twitter.com/BritainFirstHQ/status/911118026803679232

    Just down from the trees, yes, baboons. We have imitated Britain and surrendered so much of our sublime way of life to these pig ignorant neanderthals and for what good purpose?

  74. Snoopy

    Dunno Snoopy,

    I’ll take that as a yes.

  75. Nick

    Tom Hawkins put in a shocker.

    Good

  76. jupes

    Tom Hawkins put in a shocker.

    I think he’s had one good final and that’s it.

  77. Slayer of Memes

    It is interesting to note that many of those laughing and cheering the physical assault on Tony Abbott
    on various social media platforms are the very same snowflakes that were triggered and got all pouty and upset because they felt ‘bullied’ by a giant vaporous ‘vote NO’ in the skies over Sydney…

  78. Muddy

    Zulu.
    On a vaguely similar note (sans humour), I’ve just ordered “Commanding Lincoln’s Navy.”

    I’m a sucker for discounted books, though my dog won’t be happy when I convert her kennel to a library.

  79. Leo G

    So on the basis of probability someone behaving like a Nazi and wearing a Nazi badge is probably not a Nazi.

    FIFY

  80. Muddy

    Neither of you are that bloody old. Stop diluting and deprecating a significant historical period and population that signified the worst of humanity.

  81. C.L.

    In incredibly surprising news, a Muslim has been arrested for an attempted massacre in the UK:

    Teen charged over London train bombing.

    An 18-year-old man has been charged with attempted murder and possessing explosives over the Parsons Green Tube terrorist attack in London.

    Ahmed Hassan, of Sunbury, in Surrey, is accused of attempting to murder people travelling on a train in last Friday’s bombing, Scotland Yard says.

    He also faces a charge of using a chemical compound known as TATP to cause an explosion likely to endanger life and will appear in Westminster Magistrates Court on Friday afternoon.

  82. Arky

    zyconoclast
    #2505019, posted on September 22, 2017 at 10:27 pm

    ..
    There is a poultry amount of humour in that story.

  83. Leigh Lowe

    jupes

    #2505033, posted on September 22, 2017 at 10:38 pm

    Tom Hawkins put in a shocker.

    I think he’s had one good final and that’s it.

    Look like Tarzan.
    Play like Jane.

  84. Gab

    Stop diluting and deprecating a significant historical period and population that signified the worst of humanity.

    Good point.

  85. Snoopy

    In incredibly surprising news, a Muslim has been arrested for an attempted massacre in the UK

    His name wasn’t Mohammed? Now that is a surprise.

  86. notafan

    Monty always uses ‘journalistic’ exaggerations when claiming the high moral ground.

    ‘Bruised and bloodied’ for the Krudd godson, good one..

    Abbott never claimed to be badly injured. Just as well Mr Lobe was an incompetent Liverpool kisser.

    I’m sure Monty would have been mightily pleased if Mr Abbott had had his nose broken.

    The rest of the love is love brigade would still have reacted the same way.

    At least Mr Lobe didn’t have a gun or or a bomb under a turban, or in a backpack or something.

    Never miss a chance to say how very very terrible America is, right?

  87. Slayer of Memes

    Hey JC,

    You might want to be a little more careful if mOnty offers to shake your hand when you invite him to lunch next time…

  88. zyconoclast

    Canadian PM Justin Trudeau Says All Men Should Be Feminists, Calls For End to ‘Bro Culture’

    Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau called for “Bro culture” to come to an end and said all men need to become feminists and “shut down” one another’s “negative conversations” in locker rooms.

    “It’s not only that men can be feminists, it’s that men should be feminists as well,” Trudeau said with a lisp Wednesday at a United Nations youth empowerment meeting in New York.

    ‘He for She’ is a movement I hope you all of you go up and sign up for of men standing up for women, men shutting down some of those negative conversations that we get in locker rooms, in bro culture,” he said.

    “We need to know that we are better than that,” Trudeau said. “How we treat our sisters, our girlfriends, our cousins, our mothers and the world around us matters. We need to take back what it is to be a man and that means being open, compassionate, respectful and brave about standing up for it.”

  89. BrettW

    Just listened to podcast of Ben Fordham interview with Bernard Gaynor about the ADFA cadet who is gender neutral.

    Good point raised about what the physical requirements for such a cadet would be. If started as a female then surely would have gone up ?! Is it an average between male and female ?

    Gaynor mentioned that recently an Engineer officer had been designated to go through various orders, policies etc to insert a new word covering the non male or female person.

    Gaynor mentioned instructional staff afraid to discipline the cadet as they would normally do for fear of a complaint.

    My personal view is that if you apply as one gender then that is the gender you should remain as in the ADF. You cant have a Lt graduating from Duntroon and being attached to an infantry battalion and months later before a deployment say wish to be considered female or neutral. It should be written into the paperwork to start. I would think it is impossible for the person to not know at time of recruitment that they have such issues and it is misleading their potential employer not to mention them. Since the ADF has been paying for transgender medical operations all their policies are doing is encouraging more to enlist. Once they are in ADF they become a sensitive issue for people to deal with.

    Another problem ADF has is that they have Diversity advisers etc who are actually encouraging such recruits as it somehow improves the organisation. It doesn’t. All it does is makes those who serve with them have to think about how not to offend the person and senior officers become fearful as to how to deal with them.

    Let the public service employ them if Government is so keen. Just not organisations where guns are involved and discipline is vital.

  90. Empire GTHO Phase III

    Dunno Snoopy,

    I’ll take that as a yes.

    ROFL. Imagine Grosso Rosso attempting to nut himself like a kelpie with cabin fever chasing its tail.

  91. Muddy

    The repetition and dilution of terms such as ‘racist’ ‘equality’ ‘fairness’ etc. are desirable, and their erasure from our common language long overdue. Memory through generations, however, requires words and concepts to remain relatively stable in order for the original meaning to be maintained.

    Nuf sed?

  92. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I’m a sucker for discounted books, though my dog won’t be happy when I convert her kennel to a library.

    Every gentleman should have a library, in the same manner that every lady should have a boudoir. When we purchased the retirement property a few years ago, there was a separate “studio.” I bagged it for a library – several bookshelves, comfortable chair, brew gear and a decanter of Scotch close handy. I did find out later that the Memsahib had had her eyes on the studio as a “boudoir”, however, when the original house was destroyed in a bushfire, and we rebuilt, she got her “boudoir.”

  93. Slim Cognito

    FMD whoever wins tomorrow will have their work cut out to beat the Crows.

    I hope its GWS. Fukin GAYFL deserve it. No Vic teams = no interest in an MCG final.

  94. egg_

    Is that a threat, Snoopy?

    Can I come too?

    We could take him to a fuknukl concert?

  95. Muddy

    Zulu,
    I have no idea what a “boudoir” is, and I think my hegemonic masculinity might be damaged if I did know. I’m off for some beauty sleep. Play neutrally, peoples.

  96. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Zulu,
    I have no idea what a “boudoir” is, and I think my hegemonic masculinity might be damaged if I did know. I’m off for some beauty sleep. Play neutrally, peoples.

    It’s a place for “secret women’s business.” Ladies retire there, to discuss menfolk and their shortcomings. Night, muddy.`

  97. zyconoclast

    Great line from Ann Coulter
    ‘They Don’t Call It ‘the Great Tweet of China’

    During the campaign, Donald J. Trump made lots of promises — he’d be the greatest jobs president God ever created, he’d cut taxes, he’d balance the budget, he’d give all Americans fantastic health care, he’d renegotiate NAFTA, he’d scotch the Iran deal and so on.

    But there was one central promise without which he wouldn’t have been elected: He said he’d build a wall.

    Either Trump understood the urgency of our border crisis, as his every campaign speech suggested, or it was just meaningless boilerplate to get himself elected. If it was the latter, then our search continues for one politician who won’t lie to us.

  98. Robber Baron

    Watching channel 7 footy.

    When are the gay AFL male players going to come out of their closets and support the AFLs public support for them?

    It’s time for the gay players to stand proud.

  99. Empire GTHO Phase III

    I hope its GWS. Fukin GAYFL deserve it. No Vic teams = no interest in an MCG final.

    If Gill was any good at his job he would have signed the Village People for the pre-match entertainment and hedged against the risk of an all irrelevant team final.

    Massive fail.

  100. zyconoclast

    South Carolina 5th Graders Are Asked to Explain K.K.K.’s Thinking

    “You are a member of the K.K.K.,” the fifth-grade homework assignment read. “Why do you think your treatment of African-Americans is justified?”

  101. egg_

    Stop diluting and deprecating a significant historical period and population that signified the worst of humanity.

    On this morning’s ABC TV Breakfast News, Virginia Trioli portrayed US Rightwing protesters as N.A.Z.I.s in her introduction to the anniversary in Germany of said movement today.

    Aunty plays along with Monster’s current meme.

  102. zyconoclast

    Editorial Board of ‘Third World Quarterly’ Resigns

    All members of the Third World Quarterly’s editorial board have resigned over the publication of a controversial essay, according to the board’s resignation letter.

    The essay is by Bruce Gilley, a political scientist at Portland State University, and is titled “The Case for Colonialism.” It argues that the idea that Western colonialism harmed colonized countries and their people is largely exaggerated.

  103. Mark A

    Surprises me that you folk interact with m0nty at all.
    The man is a really nasty piece of work.

  104. zyconoclast

    White South African family’s refugee bid rejected, accused of boosting case with ‘racist propaganda’

    A white family from South Africa has had their refugee claim for asylum in Canada rejected, having been accused of submitting “white-supremacist hate literature” to bolster their claims of violence by the black majority in their homeland.

    The claim of the family of six was based on being white South Africans at risk of persecution due to their race, namely Afrikaners, the white minority descended from Dutch settlers in Southern Africa.

    Eric Williams Endre and Sonja Endre, a married couple, along with two of their children and Sonja’s parents, all came to Canada in 2016 to visit relatives living here and made refugee claim 10 days later.

    The Endres said they were victims of carjacking in 1995, were assaulted on their farm by four black men who entered their home and robbed them in 2004, had their home burglarized in 2013, their car stolen from outside their house in 2014 and, that same year, three black men tried to steal Sonja’s cell phone while she was working.

    The Immigration and Refugee Board denied them refugee protection, saying there was no reliable evidence they were attacked due to their race, and it was more probable they were attacked for economic reasons — to steal their possessions

    The Endre family appealed to the Federal Court of Canada, the latest challenge by white South Africans seeking asylum in Canada in post-apartheid South Africa.

    They argued the IRB failed to adequately consider the children’s circumstances. They said their children cannot safely play in parks in South Africa; one was bullied and had been taken out of school; and their mother could not walk with her children without fearing they could be assaulted, raped or killed.

    Defending the IRB’s decision, the government argued concerns for the children were based on “patently unreliable racist propaganda.”

    A government lawyer said the fear of white children being raped by blacks was highly offensive as the information the family relied on was “white-supremacist hate literature” that should be ignored.

    The government also said the Endres’ claim was based on a risk of generalized crime in South Africa, meaning that it could impact almost anyone, not only those who are white or Afrikaners.

    Refugee status is not meant to protect people who face problems the general population of a country faces, but only fears of persecution specific to race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group or political opinion.

    The international refugee system is not meant to offer a safe haven for all suffering people, the IRB’s published guidelines say.

    In deciding the appeal, Justice René LeBlanc, said the refugee claim offered no evidence the state of South Africa is incapable of offering protection for their children from rape or murder.

    “It is also settled law that absent a complete breakdown of state apparatus, it is presumed that a state is capable of protecting its citizens and that this presumption can only be rebutted by the refugee claimant with clear and convincing evidence,” LeBlanc said in a decision released last week.

    He denied the appeal.

  105. Snoopy

    A white family from South Africa has had their refugee claim for asylum in Canada rejected,

    Idiots. They should have claimed to be Rohingya.

  106. C.L.

    Stop diluting and deprecating a significant historical period and population that signified the worst of humanity.

    Exactly. Also remember that the socialist, faux-artistic, environmentalist, vegetarian, pro-abortion, anti-Israel, atheist anti-smoker and teetotaler Hitler was the historical exemplar par excellence of everything the contemporary West holds most dear. He remains the greatest son of socialism.

  107. I can only marvel at how lucky we are in Australia, that this sort of tomfoolery is much more common than anything serious. If this was the US, guns would have been involved and people would have been shot.

    No, such a spur of the moment assault would never occur against a member of Congress.

  108. Leigh Lowe

    Exactly. Also remember that the socialist, faux-artistic, environmentalist, vegetarian, pro-abortion, anti-Israel, atheist anti-smoker and teetotaler Hitler was the historical exemplar par excellence of everything the contemporary West holds most dear. He remains the greatest son of socialism.

    Wrong!
    It is “teatotaler”.
    Everything else OK but.

  109. Empire GTHO Phase III

    “You are a member of the K.K.K.,” the fifth-grade homework assignment read. “Why do you think your treatment of African-Americans is justified?”

    This is totally unfair. Given the absence of real history in western curricula for fifty odd years, the question should read:

    You are a Southern Democrat. Why do you think your cynical use of the descendents of slaves as welfare client voteherds is justified?

  110. C.L.

    Also remember that the socialist, faux-artistic, environmentalist, vegetarian, pro-abortion, anti-Israel, atheist anti-smoker and teetotaler Hitler was the historical exemplar par excellence of everything the contemporary LEFT holds most dear.

  111. Leigh Lowe

    Watching channel 7 footy.

    When are the gay AFL male players going to come out of their closets and support the AFLs public support for them?

    It’s time for the gay players to stand proud.

    Ha, ha.
    That would be an excellent ploy for a fading 35 year old.
    You’d be guaranteed another 3 year contract, no problems.
    A bit like North keeping that absolute dud Majak Daw on their list. No way multi-culti pin-up boy is going to get the arse.

  112. C.L.

    It is “teatotaler”.

    Que?

  113. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    A white family from South Africa has had their refugee claim for asylum in Canada rejected,

    Can’t we offer them political asylum in rural Western Australia? If it wasn’t for South Africans, New Zealanders, and European backpackers, rural Western Australia would have ground to a halt thirty yeas ago.

  114. Empire GTHO Phase III

    Canada is now a failed state. Rule of law has collapsed and the despotic regime in Ottawa has declared war on its own populace.

    Vale British North America. I never thought I’d see the day when I would declare “oughta gone with Jefferson”.

  115. Fisky

    The Immigration and Refugee Board denied them refugee protection, saying there was no reliable evidence they were attacked due to their race, and it was more probable they were attacked for economic reasons — to steal their possessions

    After the murder of 100 million people under Marxist regimes, anyone who claims this is a mitigating factor is a moral cretin.

  116. Leigh Lowe

    Que?
    Ha, ha.
    Seems “teetotaler” is correct.
    I had always assumed it was derived from “tea”.
    Humblest apologies.

  117. C.L.

    Modern conundrums for The Project audience members …

    If a man who identifies as a woman head-butts Pauline Hanson on the hustings, do you laugh?

  118. zyconoclast

    Idiots. They should have claimed to be Rohingya.

    What? Like this guy?

    Muslim asylum seeker, 35, to walk free within DAYS for forcing a girl, 14, to marry him at a Melbourne mosque

    Burmese asylum seeker Mohammad Shakir, 35, was sentenced on Thursday after pleading guilty to illegally marrying an underage girl in a Melbourne mosque in 2016.

  119. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Modern conundrums for The Project audience members …

    If two gay Muslims, want the Grand Mufti to officiate at their wedding, in Lakemba mosque, do you laugh?

  120. egg_

    Castro Lube: teh Yes campaign just went full retard…

  121. egg_

    Modern conundrums for The Project audience members …

    Did Squalid just order a ham and pineapple pizza?

  122. Leo G

    If two gay Muslims, want the Grand Mufti to officiate at their wedding, in Lakemba mosque, do you laugh?

    How would the GM faithfully solemnise such a contract with anything but the sword of Islam?

  123. zyconoclast

    Eight extreme things Fr. James Martin just said about Catholics and gay ‘marriage’

    Father James Martin is one of the most vocal advocates for the Catholic Church’s acceptance of active homosexuality.

    Since the publication of his book Building a Bridge, the Jesuit priest and newly made Vatican advisor has pushed his message to major media outlets and through his large social media following.

    In an August 29 talk at Villanova University, Fr. Martin made some of his most extreme statements yet on homosexuality and Catholicism. He said a Catholic attending a same-sex “wedding” is just as acceptable as a Catholic attending a Jewish wedding. He blasted nearly everyone who opposes same-sex “marriage” as “homophobic” and repeated his mantra that his critics are just secretly gay. He also suggested that opposing same-sex “marriage” is like opposing interracial marriage and that African Catholics are one of the biggest obstacles to Church acceptance of homosexuality.

    RTWT

  124. Empire GTHO Phase III

    Corrupt and ironically named Canadian judge:

    “It is also settled law that absent a complete breakdown of state apparatus, it is presumed that a state is capable of protecting its citizens and that this presumption can only be rebutted by the refugee claimant with clear and convincing evidence,” LeBlanc said in a decision released last week.

    As violent assault and murder escalates, white genocide is looming as official state policy in RSA:

    Perhaps in response to populist pressure from Malema, Zuma earlier this month called for the confiscation of white-owned land without compensation. Zuma urged the “black parties” in the parliament to unite to form the two-thirds majority that would be needed to make the necessary change to the country’s constitution.

    Here’s the blueprint Justice White:
    https://www.afriforum.co.za/wp-content/uploads/Kill-the-Farmer-a-brief-study-of-the-impact-of-politics-and-hate-speech-on-the-safety-of-South-African-farmers1.pdf

    What a lying sack of shit LeBlanc is.

  125. Modern conundrums for The Project audience members …

    If a man who identifies as a woman head-butts Pauline Hanson on the hustings, do you laugh?

    Of course. Look at the number of feminists that have completely ignored the repeated use of the c word by Astro Labe in his Mercury interview.

  126. zyconoclast

    How would the GM faithfully solemnise such a contract with anything but the sword of Islam?

    I think thrown from the top of a building, followed by a stoning to finish the job. Even if they are dead after hitting the ground you can still stone them for fun and practice.

  127. Leo G

    I think thrown from the top of a building, followed by a stoning to finish the job. Even if they are dead after hitting the ground you can still stone them for fun and practice.

    That may be the civil ceremony.

  128. Pedro the Ignorant

    Zulu can probably vouch for this, outside my ken, but I have been told that Rhodesians and white South Africans who have settled in WA are some of the best “hard country” farmers in Australia.

    They have turned some formerly marginal farming areas east of Perth into profitable food bowls.

    We should be actively seeking them as immigrants, not illiterate and surly Middle Eastern peasants.

  129. srr

    Empire GTHO Phase III
    #2504947, posted on September 22, 2017 at 9:08 pm

    #2504935, posted on September 22, 2017 at 8:57 pm
    Abbott over reacted to getting headbutted in the street by a bloke who offered to shake his hand first. Fucking hell m0nty, you are a fucking chin dribbling spastic.

    He’s nothing of the sort. He is a lucid liar for hire who both condones and incites violence.

    Yep, as clear as day.

  130. srr

    C.L.
    #2504994, posted on September 22, 2017 at 10:05 pm

    Turnbull must immediately demand the resignation of his AG.

    The chief legal officer of the Commonwealth just prejudiced a prosecution. He is clearly unfit for the job.

    Brandis is a disgrace as A-G. An absolute disgrace.

    Yes, Brandis, Turnbull, Crosby & Textor and that whole arm of social and mainstream media pushing their narratives, have declared No Rule of Law protections for conservatives or anyone who dares challenge their agenda.

    Australia’s Government, public service and Government funded media have declared Australia to have fallen to violent anarchy by supporting a self declared violent anarchist.

  131. I can always tell when I am hitting close to home, as the nasty pasties crank up the ad homs to eleven. Not a good day for the No losers.

  132. srr

    Mick Gold Coast QLD
    #2505029, posted on September 22, 2017 at 10:37 pm

    From srr at 4:50 pm:

    “… hospital security camera –

    Britain …

    VIDEO: Disgusting behaviour of Muslim man toward hospital receptionist!
    https://twitter.com/BritainFirstHQ/status/911118026803679232“

    Just down from the trees, yes, baboons. We have imitated Britain and surrendered so much of our sublime way of life to these pig ignorant neanderthals and for what good purpose?

    So m0nty and his caring, political mover and shaker friends can look like, not quite as savage, bonobos by comparison?

  133. Not a good day for the No losers.

    What happened? Was another No supporter attacked by a Yes supporter or had calumnies heaped upon them?

  134. srr

    Get OVER It: California School Board Enacts Horrendous Policy, Telling Parents To Shut Up

    Recently, a California school was thrust into a storm of controversy when a Rocklin Academy transgender student brought the book “I Am Jazz” to school. The firestorm erupted after the teacher read the book to kindergartners without their parent’s permission. Many of the five-year-old’s were traumatized over the information and went home in tears.

    As outrage spread among parents, school administrators convened an official meeting not to quell their concerns, but to turn up the heat and tell them flat out: the horrendous transgender-loving policy is here to stay.

    On Monday the board voted to keep its current literature policies in place, which means that students will be exposed to the leftist agenda by teachers and other staff.

    The meeting was filled with upset parents and a few transgender supporters who did not have students in the school, nor did they live there, armed with signs supporting the deviant lifestyle.

    Transgenderism is a theory. And, it’s one that leading psychiatrists in the field say is not scientific, but a mental aberration much like anorexia.

    This June, Dr. Paul R. McHugh, the former psychiatrist-in-chief for Johns Hopkins Hospital and its current Distinguished Service Professor of Psychiatry, explained that transgenderism is a “mental disorder.” People who suffer from it merit treatment, he asserted. After decades of study he also explained that sex change is “biologically impossible,” and that people who promote sexual reassignment surgery are promoting a mental disorder.

    He also blasted so-called guidance counselors for promoting the idea among pre-adolescent kids, calling such action “child abuse.” He cited detailed research that shows 80 percent of children who experience gender dysphoria symptoms grow out of them by the time puberty takes place.

    However, a vast number of liberal educators seek to treat the illness like it’s normal. They support a 5-year-old taking life-altering drugs before the child can know his own mind. Many “transitioning” medicines result in sterility, making it a ‘no turning back’ type of commitment.

    An apt comparison would be allowing a child to operate heavy equipment or own a firearm. These children simply do not have the maturity to make this sort of decision, yet progressive doctors and educators around the country continue to support the practice. And, they try to infect normal kids with the idea.

    The fact remains that the education system is actively working to bring about a major societal shift, and with the help of the leftist media, it is working.

    https://conservativedailypost.com/get-california-school-board-enacts-horrendous-policy-telling-parents-shut/

  135. Empire GTHO Phase III

    I can always tell when I am hitting close to home, as the nasty pasties crank up the ad homs to eleven. Not a good day for the No losers.

    You mistake ridicule for concern.

    As a mentally ill commie crank, it’s to be expected that you will, without fail, be subject to the error of your own hubris.

    It’s as funny as fuck. Don’t stop.

  136. Empire GTHO Phase III

    These children simply do not have the maturity to make this sort of decision, yet progressive doctors and educators around the country continue to support the practice. And, they try to infect normal kids with the idea.

    As always, follow the money.

    https://www.endocrine.org/news-room/current-press-releases/experts-issue-recommendations-for-gender-affirmation-treatment-for-transgender-individuals

  137. srr

    Kevin W. Retweeted
    Ivan Trumpovic‏ @ManMountain78R3 58m58 minutes ago

    How very interesting. The son of George Soros, Alex Soros. Is associated with UC Berkeley. Berkeley is practically Antifa’s headquarters. 🤔
    https://twitter.com/ManMountain78R3/status/911255512989147136

    And JC often praises his uncle George Soros for benefitting his finances, and has boasted of financially investing in the cat, and boasts of being a caring friend of Antifa supporting m0nty, and … well, I don’t have to spell out the rest for the honest and observant, who already know that the Pro-Soros Agenda Troll Army will simply double down with yet more bald faced lies.

  138. srr

    Women’s Network tries to hijack International Men’s Day!
    Bearing
    Sep 22, 2017
    Women’s Network tries to hijack International Men’s Day! Regards, Bearing.

  139. srr

    International Men’s Day for Women
    Independent Man

  140. egg_

    Rhodesians and white South Africans who have settled in WA are some of the best “hard country” farmers in Australia.

    They have turned some formerly marginal farming areas east of Perth into profitable food bowls.

    We should be actively seeking them as immigrants, not illiterate and surly Middle Eastern peasants.

    +1

    Yup, wasn’t Howard’s policy national building, not funding welfare hordes?

  141. egg_

    We should be actively seeking them as immigrants, not illiterate and surly Middle Eastern peasants.

    Sarah Dugong would have the nation built on this crap, as she’s from the ‘fairies at the bottom of the garden’ TParty and is as out of touch/out of her depth as one can be.

  142. egg_

    Tracey Spicer ✔ @TraceySpicer
    “I wanted to nut the c*nt.”

    Typical of the nasty bigotty bigot, who won’t sit her kid next to a fogey on a plane lest he feels ’em up – hopefully, it’s not a (Qwerty) cabin steward on furlough, luv – you never know what they’ll get up to, but do keep up the virtue signalling.

  143. egg_

    As a mentally ill commie crank, it’s to be expected that you will, without fail, be subject to the error of your own hubris.

    He’s taking his wrath out on a mountain of donuts as consolation.

  144. rickw

    If this was the US, guns would have been involved and people would have been shot.

    You say it like it’s a bad thing.

    The most likely scenario would be crusty the angry leftist clown with a hole between his eyes.

  145. rickw

    I can always tell when I am hitting close to home, as the nasty pasties crank up the ad homs to eleven. Not a good day for the No losers.

    It’s actually related to you being a bigger moron than usual, you never hit anywhere close to home, your warped leftist lenses makes that impossible for you.

  146. Eyrie

    “Let the public service employ them if Government is so keen. Just not organisations where guns are involved and discipline is vital.”
    How about a swift medical discharge on the grounds of mental illness? Alternatively a quick ” Fuck off we don’t need your kind around here”.

  147. notafan

    Monty

    Are you calling people who, most likely, have the same complexion as you ‘nasty pasties’?

    I bet you also call men who look exactly like you ‘pale male stale’

    Monty the valiant defender of the indefensible, can’t escape his own reality.

    I read CL’s description of you know who, ditch the teetotal and vegetarian and ‘here’s Monty’s.

    Though no doubt Monty identifies as a vegetarian teetotaller in all his post modern post truth glory.

    PS I ♥️ Uncle George

  148. stackja

    Liberty Quote
    Conventional wisdom does not regard Communism with the same abhorrence as fascism, even though if you want to be an accountant about it and add up the skulls of the dead, you will find that the Communists murdered many more people than the fascists did, began murdering before fascists came to power and carried on murdering after the fascists had gone. Yet few can bring themselves to see fascism and Communism as moral equivalents.

    — Nick Cohen

  149. Boambee John

    Snoopy

    #2505025, posted on September 22, 2017 at 10:33 pm
    m0nty
    #2505016, posted on September 22, 2017 at 10:25 pm
    Is that a threat, Snoopy?

    Are you a Nazi?
    m0nty
    #2505026, posted on September 22, 2017 at 10:35 pm
    Dunno Snoopy, are you?

    m0nty

    You assured us that you had a tight definition of Nazi, but now you don’t know if you are one yourself.

    Watch out for unemployed tattooed anarchists, they might not be sure either!

  150. Boambee John

    CL at 2325

    Exactly. Also remember that the socialist, faux-artistic, environmentalist, vegetarian, pro-abortion, anti-Israel, atheist anti-smoker and teetotaler Hitler was the historical exemplar par excellence of everything the contemporary West holds most dear. He remains the greatest son of socialism.

    A definition of Nazi that m0nty could use?

  151. Boambee John

    m0nty

    No sign of your clear definition of Nazi.

    Shall we go with CL’s in the absence of any clarity from you?

  152. Boambee John

    From the Macquarie dictionary of Newspeak

    Nazi

    noun (plural Nazis) 1. a member of the National Socialist German Workers’ party, which was founded in 1919 and which in 1933, under Adolf Hitler, obtained political control of Germany; it established a dictatorship on the principles of control over all cultural, economic, and political activities of the people, belief in the supremacy of Hitler as Führer, anti-Semitism, and the establishment of Germany as a dominant world power. 2. (often lower case) someone who believes in or sympathises with policies characteristic of this party.3. (often lower case) Colloquial a. someone who is extremely domineering and unwilling to compromise. b. (with a modifier) someone who displays a dictatorial attitude about how people should think or behave with regard to a particular topic or thing: a kitchen Nazi.–adjective 4. of or relating to Nazis. [German colloquial, fromNa(tionalso)zi(alist) National Socialist]

    Definition 1 is straightforward, but such people are mostly dead of old age or senile.

    Definition 2 suits the modern”progressive” Gramscian/Alynskyite left, which seeks “principles of control over all cultural, economic, and political activities of the people” (from definition 1).

    Definitions 3 and 4 also match the bullying modern left.

    By command of the Macquarie dictionary, the modern left (which includes m0nty) are Nazis.

    Open season fellas!

  153. Top unis admit China influence, Go8 fears backlash The Oz.

    A conundrum for our top universities. The cash from China is very tempting. To keep it flowing unis need to remove “offensive teaching material” and to ignore intelligence gathering on students.

    When in doubt, follow the money.

  154. Chris

    Castro Lube: teh Yes campaign just went full retard…

    The etymology discussions about Astro Labe have correctly noted the labia and lubricant implications but have not mentioned a brand name that may be a close starting point: ‘Astroglide’ is very popular for an activity traditionally believed to be more popular in Kings Cross than in Dubbo.

  155. alexnoaholdmate

    If the Yes campaign really wanted to make the point that all sexual relationships are equal, surely the best thing to do would be to get some high-profile gays to come and make the point for them.

    That kind of star power would win the Australian people over.

    Stars like Peter Allen. And Freddie Mercury. And Rock Hudson. And Liberace. And Tom Waddell, who founded the gay Olympics.

    Where are these stars and why won’t they speak out?

  156. Chris

    Harsh, alex. I was earlier thinking of people like Bryce Courtenay’s son killed by contamination of the donor blood, and wives killed by husbands bringing HIV home.

  157. cohenite

    The Taliban tarts do Perth again:

  158. srr;

    So what happened to super hard arse, “Always Escalate!”, JC of old, who advocated helping people to suicide?
    You were very up front about all that hardarsery back then, when you also joined in with cats mocking Anti-Abortion cats who have survived car bombings and other attempts on their lives.
    Oh how you laughed and laughed.
    So, Why So Serious, now?
    Anything to do with any of that herd of big shitting elephants camped out in your cathouse?

    srr, JC went to a Cat gathering and realised that the people he was angry at were, in fact, rational and likable humans. He has been far less abrasive since then.
    You could do the same, you know.

  159. Are you calling people who, most likely, have the same complexion as you ‘nasty pasties’?

    Geez nota, now you are stretching. I thought the concept of the nasty pastie was related to the pastry-wrapped food, not a reference to skin colour.

  160. Chris

    Paywallian:
    Hendo:
    Labor faithful never waver in their affection for Lionel Murphy

    Despite the release of the Murphy files last week, former NSW Liberal Party premier Robert Askin (1907-81) continues to hold the reputation of the most corrupt ­figure in Australian public life. And former Labor Party politician and High Court judge Lionel ­Murphy (1922-86) continues to have an ­influential fan club, espec­ially on the left.

    Stephen Walmsley’s The Trials of Justice Murphy (LexisNexis ­Butterworths) was published last year. It contains a thoughtful foreword by High Court judge Virginia Bell. Walmsley, a retired NSW District Court judge, has ­assessed the case against Murphy as if he were summarising evidence for consideration by a jury. Even so, the book indicates that Walmsley believes Murphy’s guilt is established ­beyond reasonable doubt.

    When he was attorney-general in Gough Whitlam’s Labor government in early 1975, Murphy was appointed to the High Court.

    In late 1984 he was charged with attempting to pervert the course of justice by ­improperly ­interfering in a case, in the NSW jurisdiction, against his friend Morgan Ryan. Murphy was ­acquitted on one charge and convicted on another, but subsequently acquitted on the second charge.

    Murphy, who had stood down from the High Court, then proposed to return to the bench. However, because of concern about his fitness to sit on the High Court, the Labor government led by Bob Hawke set up a parliamentary commission of inquiry, presided over by three retired judges, to ­assess Murphy’s suitability to be a judge.

    In July 1986 it was revealed that Murphy had terminal cancer and the inquiry was halted. Murphy ­returned briefly to the High Court and died in August 1986. The ­papers of the parliamentary ­inquiry were not released until last week due to a 30-year embargo.

    The principal witnesses for the prosecution in Murphy’s trials were then NSW chief magistrate Clarrie Briese and then NSW District Court judge Paul Flannery. Both fine men experienced the hostility of some of their peers for stating what they felt to be the truth. However, their reputations have been enhanced following the publication of Walmsley’s book.

    On the other hand, the former High Court judge’s reputation has not been enhanced following the release of the Murphy files.

    The parliamentary inquiry put 15 allegations to Murphy involving bribery, association with criminals, giving false testimony, interference in the course of justice and so on. Yet Murphy remains a hero to his fan club.

    Appearing on ABC’s 7.30 on September 14, former High Court judge Michael Kirby said Murphy “was a great defender of the rights of those who the law sometimes forgot”.

    And Guy Rundle, Crikey’s writer-at-large, also declared the judge was a “fighter for rights”.

    This overlooks the controversial and improper raid that Murphy, when attorney-general in March 1973, conducted on the Melbourne office of ASIO. As documented by John Blaxland in The Protest Years: The Official History of ASIO: 1963-1975, Murphy demanded that all ASIO staff go to the auditorium, where they were held under effective house arrest for some hours and not even allowed to go to the toilet.

    Needless to say, many members of the staff were traumatised.

    The raid was motivated by Murphy’s belief that ASIO was ­attempting to protect Australia’s primarily anti-communist and Catholic Croatian community — who he believed were planning terrorist attacks against Yugo­slav government officials and property.

    As Blaxland makes clear, Murphy did not understand the difference between ASIO (an ­intelligence-gathering entity) and the Commonwealth Police (a law enforcement agency).

    In any event, ASIO was not ­involved in a cover-up of what Murphy alleged was Croatian ­extremism in Australia.

    At the time, Murphy lied to parliament about ASIO’s response to the raid. These were not the acts of a man committed to human rights but those of a bully and a liar.

    Despite all his faults as a ­minister and a judge, Murphy is destined to remain one of the Labor Party’s secular saints much ­admired by many a Labor lawyer. However, it’s fair to acknowledge that he does have some critics on the left.

    Askin, on the other hand, is all but friendless. And likely to ­remain so — despite a reassessment by Michael Duffy and Nick Hordern in their book Sydney Noir: The Golden Years (New­South, 2017). Askin’s reputation was irreparably tarnished almost before his corpse was cold.

    On September 13, 1981, shortly after Askin died, The National Times (editor: David Marr) published an article titled “Askin: Friend to organised crime”. The front-page story ­alleged that, while he was NSW premier between 1965 and 1975, Askin had received large bribes from illegal casino operators and more ­besides.

    The story also alleged, ­falsely, that organised crime ­became institutionalised in NSW on a large scale under Askin’s watch.

    It appears that, like many journalists, the writer was into bias confirmation. That is, they believe what they want to believe.

    The National Times produced no evidence for its story and named no sources. A review commissioned by The Sun-Herald (a ­Fairfax Media stablemate) in 1993 and conducted by former NSW coroner Kevin Waller found that many of the ­allegations against Askin turned on “remote hearsay” and “unnamed persons”.

    Duffy and Hordern report that the story’s writer told a PhD candidate, Paul Loughnan, in 2015 that the source for the National Times ­allegation against Askin was Perce Galea, a Sydney crook who died in 1977. Which raises the question of whether that was all that the writer had.

    Moreover, why would anyone automatically believe ­anything Galea said? The story’s writer declined to speak to the authors of Sydney Noir.

    Before Sydney Noir, such commentators as Geoffrey Reading, Norman Abjorensen and Bob Bottom had drawn attention to the fact that there is no evidence that Askin was a criminal.

    But in the ­aftermath of Askin’s death, such Liberal Party leaders as Malcolm Fraser and Nick Greiner did not defend him.

    Like all of us, Askin was a flawed individual. But there is no evidence that he took bribes from the criminal world.

    The lesson is that the left is ­better than political conservatives at defending its own, however weak the case.

  161. Chris

    srr, JC went to a Cat gathering and realised that the people he was angry at were, in fact, rational and likable humans. He has been far less abrasive since then.
    You could do the same, you know.

    Nice, well said.
    The intellectual value might in the past have been named ‘the presumption of good faith’.

  162. I see the latest attempt to repeal Obamacare has resulted in yet another catastrophic failure, with Senators Collins, McCain and Paul all on the No side. Libertarianism wins again, supporting the left because the right wasn’t sufficiently pure enough. Woo!

  163. Chris

    I don’t think McCain has ever been accused of being a rightist puritan, monts.

  164. No, but the difference between this and the last time is Rand Paul.

  165. Andrew

    No one’s listening to him any more, he’s fighting culture wars that have long since been lost.

    The sound of thwacks. Oh well, it’s Sunday now so he’ll be at work for the next 36 hours and that’s the last of that repulsive drooling cretin for the weekend.

    Literally EVERYONE mOron knows spent the day out there promoting the story that A666 was lying. Then Astro Lane (if that IS his real name) was arrested and confessed to the whole meeja. Thwack!

    “Culture wars” like porridge were lost years ago? We had that Wong chap defending traditional porridge! And as recently as 5 years ago, Gillard went down in history as the last sitting PM to vote against SSM. Thats the best part of SSM (assuming the violence and bigotry haven’t cost themselves the unloseable, but even if they have). That’s her legacy. She stood for one thing – progressivist extremism. And her dismal term brought soaring unemployment, a failed carbon tax, and a personal vote against SSM.

  166. Stimpson J. Cat

    A white family from South Africa has had their refugee claim for asylum in Canada rejected,

    Who the f$ck wants White Africans?
    I mean honestly.
    Their speech impediment accent is almost as annoying as Kiwis.

  167. Stimpson J. Cat

    nasty pasties

    This is a lesbian wamens insult.
    No man would use these words.
    You disgust me Monty.
    Lift your game.

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