Open Forum: September 23, 2017

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  1. Oh come on

    Datsun 1600

    Yeah a mate of mine has one of them, a coupe, he speaks very fondly of it.

    However, it’s an auto so it’s a total slug.

  2. GerardO

    There are better reasons to hate John McCain: https://i.imgur.com/0T9hbc2.jpg

  3. Marcus Classis

    Good Lord!

    CL, have you seen this?

    Issuing the Pope a Filial Correction. I had heard of them, but was told that as one has not been issued since the Middle Ages they were only of historic interest.

    A Filial Correction Concerning the Propagation of Heresies. Francis is the first Pope to get one since Pope John XXII in 1333.

    Amazing.

  4. zyconoclast

    Trump’s travel ban set to expire, forcing decision on vetting

    A core piece of President Trump’s travel ban is set to expire on Sunday.

    The Supreme Court allowed parts of Trump’s policy to go into effect earlier this summer, starting the clock on a 90-day pause in travel from six predominantly Muslim countries. The stoppage was needed, according to Trump officials, to conduct a review of vetting procedures.

    The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) submitted the results of that review to the White House late last week. Its contents have not been revealed publicly, but the report could recommend that the government strengthen its vetting protocols for visas and refugees, add new nations to the list of banned countries or even craft an entirely new order.

    White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said in a statement that no decisions have yet been made about how the president will proceed.
    But Trump recently expressed a desire to enact an even stricter travel ban after a bomb explosion in London’s subway system.

    “The travel ban into the United States should be far larger, tougher and more specific — but stupidly, that would not be politically correct!” Trump wrote on Twitter.

    The original executive order, hastily rolled out just one week after Trump took office, barred people from Iraq, Iran, Syria, Yemen, Libya, Sudan and Somalia from entering the U.S. for 90 days, halted the U.S. refugee resettlement program for 120 days and indefinitely suspended the resettlement of Syrian refugees.

  5. Steve trickler.

    History was made recently.

    A racing vehicle was launched on the true 1/4 Mile and went from 0 to 338.35 mph / 544.521 kph in 4.48 seconds.

    Something to think about.



    A second tier competition now rules the roost over the professionals. The NHRA will be peeved. Ouch!

  6. Snoopy

    Yeah a mate of mine has one of them, a coupe, he speaks very fondly of it.

    However, it’s an auto so it’s a total slug.

    That would be a 1200.

  7. zyconoclast

    [American] ABC television developing comedy series on illegal immigrants

    The full force of the progressive propaganda machine is being deployed to create the public impression that people who violate our borders are wonderful, charming, beautiful, funny folks who really ought to be left to live in peace. Joe Otterson of Variety reports:

    ABC is developing a comedy about an undocumented family with “New Girl” writer and co-executive producer David Feeney, Variety has learned.

    Titled “Sanctuary Family,” the single camera comedy would follow a hard-bitten husband and empathetic wife who butt heads over the chaos created when they provide sanctuary for their undocumented nanny and her family. They come to learn, if their marriage survives, that the differences both families have aren’t as significant as their similarities.

    A wild guess: the husband will learn from his wife, change his views, and the family will heal itself. Over time, of course. Another wild guess: the family is Caucasian.

    ABC is hardly alone in propagandizing in favor of the irrelevancy of borders:

    This is the latest project about immigration to go into development at the broadcast networks in recent weeks. Gina Rodriguez has set up Latino-led series at CBS and The CW. At CBS, drama “Have Mercy” centers around a Latina doctor who is unable to practice when she immigrates to Miami. She begins work as a nurse’s assistant, but risks everything when she opens a makeshift clinic in her apartment to serve the community. At CW, dramedy “Illegal” follows a 16-year-old American high school student named Rafael who discovers he is in fact undocumented.

    Meanwhile, Fox is developing “In the Country We Love,” based on the memoir of the same name by “Orange Is the New Black” star Diane Guerrero. That project was set up at CBS last year, with Guerrero attached to star as an attorney who begins defending undocumented immigrants for free, with Guerrero also attached as an executive producer. Finally, CBS is developing the comedy “Welcome to Maine,” which follows a ninth-generation Maine family and a recent immigrant and his daughter who must all learn to embrace change when they share the same workplace in a tiny rural town. Greg Garcia serves as executive producer on the project.

    Incidentally, all of the broadcast networks own licenses for television stations, mostly in the nation’s largest markets, and these are held in the public trust. They are the most valuable assets they own. It does seem to me that broadcasting the normalization of and advocacy of lawbreaking via illegal immigration is inconsistent with the public interest that broadcast stations are required to operate in.

    But I gather that this opinion makes me “hard-bitten” and in need of further propagandizing by my betters in the television industry.

    Borders? We don’t need no stinkin’ borders!

  8. srr

    Gee Fisky, thanks for being so quick to prove my point that you are one of the mob who simply works at repeating bald faced lies about those you have no counter argument against.

    Fisky
    #2506433, posted on September 24, 2017 at 3:31 pm

    Is because when his mate JC, or Fisky, or notafan, or Gab, or you or any of those regularly taken seriously, also regularly agree with m0nty on who to lie about and unperson (like good little Commies), that’s a signal that people should take him seriously on who it’s dangerous to be known to agree with.

    SRR, I suspect M0nty’s views on North Korea and Iran are much closer to yours than mine.

    🙄

  9. Zyconoclast, I think the next 12 months are going to be momentous.
    Too many pots coming to the boil at the same time…

  10. Oh come on

    None of which has to do with running in period. All new vehicles need to be run in, generally including special run in oil that needs to be changed at 1500km. Do NOT neglect running in.

    We’re not talking about the same kind of ‘running in’. You’re talking about the current day running in where you take it easy for the first 1000 or so kays. The running in I’m talking about was a period of time, generally a few months after where you needed to look out for things that went wrong because of screw ups during the manufacturing process – when you found something wrong (or the car broke down), you’d take it back to the dealer, they’d rectify it and you wouldn’t have an issue with whatever caused the problem again.

    As an example of the sort of thing you might need repairing on a newly purchased car – my old man noticed one of the doors of his Ford Escort wouldn’t close well and was sagging just after he’d bought it during its run in period. He took it back to the dealer and they reattached the door properly and he didn’t have a problem with it after that. This was the sort of thing you’d discover after buying a new car – badly/incorrectly fitted parts and whatnot. You had to take the car back to the dealer so any manufacturing screw-ups could be refitted properly. As you can see, this is quite different from the running in you mentioned above. What I’m talking about was made obsolete by Japanese manufacturers whose superior manufacturing quality control meant it wasn’t necessary. Other car manufacturers had to lift their game to compete.

  11. stackja

    zyconoclast
    #2506631, posted on September 24, 2017 at 8:17 pm

    Disney owns ABC. And Sumner Redstone owns CBS. Like losing money?

  12. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    What I’m talking about was made obsolete by Japanese manufacturers whose superior manufacturing quality control meant it wasn’t necessary. Other car manufacturers had to lift their game to compete.

    It’s been a while since I read “The Whizz Kids” but apparently just after Wobbly Wobbly Two, quality control in American car plants was so bad it was not unknown for cars to come off the assembly line, and round to the repair shop to have the defects remedied.

  13. egg_

    So in the usual mind numbing way the conclusion so far, it’s okay to head butt a former PM and renewables and subsidies don’t raise electricity prices!

    Insiders AKA Heads up Arses

    Asstro Lube is from the LGBTIO-NUTS Yes! vote?

  14. Herodotus

    A filial correction? Da Fonz should take it on da chin.

  15. jupes

    A racing vehicle was launched on the true 1/4 Mile and went from 0 to 338.35 mph / 544.521 kph in 4.48 seconds.

    There is a lot to be said about the internal combustion engine.

    What an invention. 158 years old and still ruling the roost.

  16. Oh come on

    Thanks Snoopy you are quite right, it is a 1200. Total slug.

    My first car was a hand-me-down, a rusty 1976 ‘fastback’ Toyota Corolla. 4 speed manual. Dear lord it was slow. And, quite unusually, it had factory fitted air con which was effective but slowed it down even more. Apparently they were available as automatics, too – if it was an automatic, I’d have been overtaken by OAPs on electric scooters.

    But it was super reliable. Never broke down on me. No one ever maintained it bar oil and water. I handed it on to a family friend’s son who’d just got his licence when I had the money for a better car, and it just kept on going and going and going. 350k+ on the clock. It’s probably still on the road somewhere!

  17. Bruce of Newcastle

    A Filial Correction Concerning the Propagation of Heresies. Francis is the first Pope to get one since Pope John XXII in 1333.

    Which ironically was around the end of the Medieval Warm Period.
    Maybe they should get him to condemn the heresy of warmism too.
    And it is a heresy: man claiming that he and he alone affects the temperature of the globe is straight out of the Fall.

  18. Snoopy

    As an example of the sort of thing you might need repairing on a newly purchased car – my old man noticed one of the doors of his Ford Escort wouldn’t close well and was sagging just after he’d bought it during its run in period. He took it back to the dealer and they reattached the door properly and he didn’t have a problem with it after that.

    I once worked with two blokes who used to work at Holden’s Acacia Ridge plant. One of their jobs was to adjust doors. The were both quite large well-built blokes which is why they were selected for this very technical job. One day they showed me how it was done. Door sagging? Grasp underside of door and give it a heave up. Door sitting too high? Grab hold of upper rear corner and jerk it downwards.

    I shit you not.

  19. Oh come on

    I think it packed a massive 1.2l engine. Imagine that struggling to run an air conditioner while pushing the car up a hill, with what little power it had slipping away quite literally through the torque converter of a slushbox transmission.

  20. srr

    ha, yet another tricky misuser of ‘quotes’ 🙄 –

    Gab
    #2506438, posted on September 24, 2017 at 3:41 pm

    Is because when his mate JC, or Fisky, or notafan, or Gab, or you or any of those regularly taken seriously,

    Wow! I get taken seriously! Seriously?

    Awesome!

    yeah, just keep hoping that everyone forgets that I was comparing the standing of some here, to that of m0nty’s, who rather tellingly, that mob all still hold in higher regard than those literally bashed (in the real world), by m0nty’s side of politics for standing up against them.

    Remember people, the bashing and car bombing that that ilk laughed off and mocked us for warning about, did become very real.

    We’ve already had a number of churches burned, but now m0nty’s side is also including promoting the burning of the Christians inside them.

    Yeah, but it’s all just a good laugh on a blog … “Australia’s Influential” economics and political blog … nothing to take too seriously …

  21. Pliblersek on Insiders clearly had no problem with mass texting by SSM campaign. Expect more from Labor / Getup / Unions in upcoming elections.

    Anybody fessed up to organising it yet ?

  22. Oh come on

    Door sagging? Grasp underside of door and give it a heave up. Door sitting too high? Grab hold of upper rear corner and jerk it downwards.

    I shit you not.

    Yeah apparently there was a LOT of that kind of specialist ‘fitting’ at the DeLorean Motor Company in Ulster. The DeLorean’s roof-mounted, vertical opening doors were tricky enough already, and the staff hired weren’t all that much chop (opening the factory in moribund Northern Ireland was a condition the British government insisted on to bankroll the thing) as automotive assembly workers. Consequently there was a lot of bending and twisting of metal to get things to fit properly.

  23. Fergus

    NK could be taken out by its own weapon. Though a few extras may also fly in. Iran in the picture too.

  24. egg_

    It’s not just the prestige German brands that crap themselves soon after the warranty’s expired. VWs have the same problem. I wouldn’t trust any German-owned marques, either – you can expect Skodas and Minis to behave similarly. Even Bentleys and Rollers, which are basically German designed now, are likely as shoddy. The difference being you’d probably need to add another zero to the cost of repairs.

    Biodegradable plastics – EC Directive?

  25. rickw

    I once worked with two blokes who used to work at Holden’s Acacia Ridge plant. One of their jobs was to adjust doors. The were both quite large well-built blokes which is why they were selected for this very technical job. One day they showed me how it was done. Door sagging? Grasp underside of door and give it a heave up. Door sitting too high? Grab hold of upper rear corner and jerk it downwards.

    The mega factory doco on Maserati shows two swarthy Italians doing this very same job.

  26. Stimpson J. Cat

    Stimpy.
    Would you like one of these?

    Are you joking?
    Why haven’t you all chipped in and bought me one for Christmas you degenerates!
    Honestly the nerve.

  27. cohenite

    Rabz

    #2506578, posted on September 24, 2017 at 7:16 pm

    Get a load of these monstrous freaks and think about what their progenitors would have been up to 74 years ago.

    Thanks, ALPBC!

    They are indeed freaks. With the krauts it’s always extremes: Nazis or grotesque middle class hippies ridden with cognitive dissonance. The krauts destroyed Europe twice in the 20thC, they are well on their way to doing it a third time in the 21stC.

  28. Vic in Prossy

    Christ.
    These batsmen went on strike.
    Cricket Australia should sack them all.

  29. Steve trickler.

    jupes
    #2506641, posted on September 24, 2017 at 8:32 pm

    There is a lot to be said about the internal combustion engine.

    What an invention. 158 years old and still ruling the roost.

    Adding nitromethane to the internal combustion engine creates a monster. Look at the fuel flow for just one cylinder for the racing vehicle clip i posted above.



  30. OneWorldGovernment

    Next time I see Julia Gillard I’m going to kick her between the legs.

    Not that it will be anything to do with her refusal to introduce SSM legislation but just because I think she is a useless xunt.

    Have I got it right?

  31. slackster

    I’ve asked several friends who are not eligible to vote. So far NONE have got the text. This suggests it is not random and that ‘they’ got the numbers from the ABS / electoral roles / other Government agency. Very, very dodgy if this is the case.

    Its from somewhere else

    I have never been on the electoral roll in Australia and still got the SMS

    My bet is Telstra- otherwise it is from another gvt database which is even scarier

  32. slackster

    Oh and here is a shot at kickoff at the SF49’s opening match :

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKSbpGEV4AAXm2M.jpg

    The NFL are doubling down on stupid as most lefistist orgs do

  33. Snoopy

    Maybe most were sitting in the shade on the other side.

  34. srr

    cohenite
    #2506660, posted on September 24, 2017 at 9:31 pm

    Rabz

    #2506578, posted on September 24, 2017 at 7:16 pm

    Get a load of these monstrous freaks and think about what their progenitors would have been up to 74 years ago.

    Thanks, ALPBC!

    They are indeed freaks. With the krauts it’s always extremes: Nazis or grotesque middle class hippies ridden with cognitive dissonance. The krauts destroyed Europe twice in the 20thC, they are well on their way to doing it a third time in the 21stC.

    Yep, The East German Stasi lives on in ‘Our’ ABC.

    Compare that grotesque Pro-Merkel Propaganda the Stasi ABC is pumping out, with what people really think about that Bloody Dictator –

    Voice of Europe‏ @V_of_Europe 18h18 hours ago

    Angela Merkel gets mercilessly booed for the 10th time in a row in Germany
    https://twitter.com/V_of_Europe/status/911651892383580162

  35. OneWorldGovernment

    Next time I see ex-PM Kevin Rudd I will smash him in the head with my suitcase.

    Not because he failed to introduce SSM legislation but just because I don’t like him.

    Have I got that right?

  36. slackster

    Maybe most were sitting in the shade on the other side.

    69k tickets sold – actual attendance appx 25k.

    They couldn’t give the tickets away

  37. Hey USSR, let’s test out Fisky’s theory. You tell us what your views on North Korea are, and let’s see if I agree with them.

  38. OneWorldGovernment

    What chance is there for Bob Hawke or Paul Keating if they walk down the street because neither of them introduced legislation for SSM!

  39. OneWorldGovernment

    f*king cute monty

    SSR has already said that the NorkON rocketman is a peice of shit but I notice that the leftists are starting to come out in support of him JUST because TRUMP spoke against him.

    Where do you stand Monty?

    Who pays you?

    And Fisky/JC what’s your problems?

  40. Mother Lode

    Geez! I just log on for a quick look at the current topic and srr is steeped in one of her one-against-many-but-I’m-gonna-win-‘cos-I-have-the-power-of-Trump-hahahaa! fantasies.

    Now she is denouncing cats for…well, what for this time?

  41. Andrew

    Years of advocating for political violence and domestic terror organisations – a few hours at a charity BBQ followed by boasting about it. No, you are scum. FOAD, troll.

  42. Harlequin Decline

    Just finished watching the first episode of ‘The Vietnam War’ directed by Ken Burns. In 1hr 20mins this covers up to the first US casualties in the early 60’s. So far-

    Excellent historical footage.

    Lots of interviews with ex Viet Minh but few with their adversaries and almost none with the French.

    Unnecessarily inserting short clips from the later US involvement. Not sure why these weren’t held until later episodes. Despite this it was fascinating to hear Karl Malantes and Tim O’Brien ( ex Vietnam veterans and authors of ‘The Matterhorn’, ‘What its Like to go to War’, ‘The Things That They Carried’) speak on camera. They are also advisers to the series.

    Mentioned the various atrocities on both sides but to my mind seemed to gloss over the sheer brutality of the North and Viet Minh plus it gave Ho Chi Minh a soft ride.

    In short seemed a bit left leaning and didn’t mention the Indonesian/Malayan issues with Communism but so far still well worth watching.

  43. Slayer of Memes

    It’s interesting that there are so many people with Vodafone accounts who say they got the SSM SMS. I’ve been with Vodafone since they came out in ’09, and I didn’t receive any SMS

    Mind you I’m also on the ‘Do Not Call’ Register, and am quite scrupulous about not giving out my mobile number to people willy-nilly…

  44. egg_

    a few hours at a charity BBQ

    But, but… he works Sundays!

  45. Slayer of Memes

    While we’re getting Monty to expound on his views on DPRK, we should also encourage him to regale us with stories of how he came to an understanding of the human condition while living in India.

    It was such a life changing experience that he cannot even remember which years it happened in…

  46. twostix

    lol @ m0nty’s Mega Unicorn today.

    Worse than that obvious reset after he excitedly giggled about our Ex-PM getting attacked by his mate – are the quite incredible “conservatives” who have some sort of pathological need to prove to leftwing lunatics that: “see? we’re really, really nice people, you’re a great guy m0nty! see how nice we are?”.

    He doesn’t care idiots, he always posts these folksy little tales after getting too much heat aftermaking his worst most vicious posts. He does it so you do that.

  47. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Mentioned the various atrocities on both sides but to my mind seemed to gloss over the sheer brutality of the North and Viet Minh plus it gave Ho Chi Minh a soft ride.

    In short seemed a bit left leaning and didn’t mention the Indonesian/Malayan issues with Communism but so far still well worth watching.

    Thanks for the sitrep. I’ll wait till the series comes out on DVD, but I did wonder how they would tackle two issues – Ho Chi Minh was a hard line Communist, and the only model for Viet Nam was a Communist dictatorship. Any rival Nationalist movements were either betrayed to the French, or purged after 1954. The other was that the Americans intervened in a country about which they knew as much as they did of the far side of the moon.

  48. DrBeauGan

    Slayer, I’m a Vodafoner who got on the list. There are lots of apps you can get which ask for access to things they may not need, such as your contact list. This will give them your phone number and also that of every contact. This will give them a lot of phone numbers which they can onsell. So I may merely have a contact who has been careless in installing apps.

  49. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    a few hours at a charity BBQ

    But, but… he works Sundays!

    I did wonder about that, indeed.

  50. twostix

    The intolerance is not where I expected and I apologise to those on the “no” side who may feel marginalised by the rancour of the campaign. The Yes vote will triumph and I hope we can all go back to being tolerant and civilised.

    What a piece of shit.

    This is how muslims operate “Sorry about the violence and suppression! Unfortunately for you we will truimph but we hate that it had to be this way!”.

    If you’re “truimphal” it’s because of the violence and campaign of terror you worthless cnut and you are 100% complicit.

  51. Slayer of Memes

    DrBG, potentially so.

    Another reason why I am finicky over who I give my number to…

    (and because I’m an anti-social prick who hates everyone else, at least according to the mother-in-law…)

  52. OneWorldGovernment

    monty,

    what’s your opinion of a person that head butts an ex Prime Minister of Australia?

  53. Andrew

    We’re not talking about the same kind of ‘running in’. You’re talking about the current day running in where you take it easy for the first 1000 or so kays.

    Yes, too different things. I just wouldn’t want people to confuse two things and destroy the useful lives of their new cars.

    Running in is also not about driving gently. Bedding in rings and bearings wants heavy loan, moderate revs and avoiding a continuous speed operation. (Difficult in an auto but easier in a manual / semi auto).

  54. Slayer of Memes

    Latest Newspoll out

    Federal 2 Party Preferred: L/NP 46 (-1) ALP 54 (+1)

    That makes 20…

  55. notafan

    Don’t look at me. I didn’t get excited about 2 hours in the life of Monty.

    Perhaps we could set up a separate thread for boasting about charitablenesses.

    Those that do, do.

  56. What chance is there for Bob Hawke or Paul Keating if they walk down the street because neither of them introduced legislation for SSM!

    They’re fine by me.
    John Howard – I’m prepared to park a steamroller on his feet and roll it to halfway up his calves, then go away for smoko while he moans in distress.

    Neither Hawke nor Keating even tried to take my guns. Howard actually took them. Boiling in oil is too good for that zunt.

  57. Slayer of Memes

    Speaking of mOnty’s boasting about doing his charity work today…

    Isn’t mOnty also supposed to be a practicing Catholic? He did so love to boast about having his son baptised and all…

    Perhaps mOnty should ask his local priest to expound upon Matthew 6, versus 1 to 5… (most specifically Matthew 6:2)

  58. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I’ve just accessed my old unit website, for the first time in sometime. My old section commander “passed away suddenly” three weeks ago…RIP, “Shadow.”

  59. Fisky

    but I did wonder how they would tackle two issues – Ho Chi Minh was a hard line Communist, and the only model for Viet Nam was a Communist dictatorship. Any rival Nationalist movements were either betrayed to the French, or purged after 1954.

    One of the least scrutinized aspects of Communist rule in Vietnam, apropos their “nationalist” mythology, is the fact that they ceded territory to the Chinese – the Paracels and the Spratleys were effectively given up in a 1958 communique by the N.Vietnam Prime Minister to Chou Enlai, recognising the latter’s claim to the islands – and they said absolutely nothing when Chinese forcibly annexed the Paracels in a shooting war in 1974.

    The same can also be said about Mao, who was given great acclaim for “kicking out the foreign devils” in a few coastal enclaves, and yet he conceded massive amounts of territory in central Asia to Stalin. So the whole “nationalist” switcheroo was a major con by the commies.

  60. Slayer of Memes

    *verses, not versus….

    (Although perhaps with his boasting, it is mOnty versus his ego…)

  61. Watching The Project.

    There was a clip of Turnbull on HMAS Hobart with a guard or parade of sailors behind him. Wearing medals and with weapon at attention. No idea how long his speech was but the clip showed three sailors fainting and being helped away. None were male.

    Naturally they covered SSM and showed the two Yes campaigners disrupting the Melbourne No event and kissing on stage. Strangely no mention of the Burn the Churches banner. The Project distorting the news daily.

  62. Fisky

    The “international Communist” con job was to present local puppets as “nationalists” who were merely “fighting for their lands”, but who were also willing to give up their lands to their effective patron and line manager (as Stalin was for Mao, just as Mao was for Ho Chi Minh) in return for weapons and technology transfers.

  63. srr

    PatriciaKarvelas‏Verified account @PatsKarvelas 8h8 hours ago
    PatriciaKarvelas Retweeted Lyle Shelton

    Make drag queens illegal, no more show tunes. #auspol

    Lyle Shelton @LyleShelton

    So Yes campaign says “Safe Schools” gender agenda has nothing to do with 🏳️‍🌈 marriage.
    But @samdastyari gets drag queen to host fundraiser.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKdLQCjUMAA0lf3.jpg

    https://twitter.com/PatsKarvelas/status/911812908048195584

  64. OWG, I already said Astro Labe deserved all that the beak could throw at him, he’s a drongo.

    I also don’t think those on the left should blame Abbott for it. He’s a drongo too but he doesn’t deserve a Glasgow kiss for it.

    Anarchists are just weird.

  65. Harlequin Decline

    The other was that the Americans intervened in a country about which they knew as much as they did of the far side of the moon.

    They cover this but, to my mind they are looking at it with the benefit of hindsight. From the US perspective (at the time) the Korean war, the Chinese and Russian support for the Viet Minh plus the Communist activities in Indonesia and Malaya led the US to not unreasonably fear a takeover of SE Asia as the colonial powers withdrew.

    The historical animosity of the Vietnamese to the Chinese( if the US recognised this at all) which played out in the long run was overridden by the indoctrination of Ho and his disciples in the USSR and China and the Cold War perspectives.

  66. Slayer of Memes

    No wonder the ‘Vote YES’ people are getting antsy, and going around door-knocking and SMS’ing…

    GhostWhoVotes‏ 
    @GhostWhoVotes
    Follow

    More
    #Newspoll Holding a postal plebiscite on same-sex marriage:
    Support 44 (-5)
    Oppose 46 (+3)
    #auspol
    10:45 pm – 24 Sep 2017

    The Noes are nosing in front….

  67. twostix

    No deal m0nty!

    Just because you’ve sobered up from your dopamine rush the other day at the news of Tony Abbott getting bashed, doesn’t mean you get to “cmon guys, let me level with you” out of it now.

  68. Slayer of Memes

    bah read that wrong… must be the lingering dizziness from being headbutted by someone who definitely wasn’t supporting the ‘Yes’ campaign…

  69. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    My old section commander “passed away suddenly” three weeks ago…RIP, “Shadow.”

    “Now, listen young (Two Alpha). We’ve all had a shit of a day. I know about the bottle of Scotch you have tucked away in your pack. You can produce it now, and nothing further will be said.”

  70. Steve trickler.

    Worthy of a repeat. A break in transmission. Can someone please tell the pest of the CAT to fuck off in a polite manner.



  71. OneWorldGovernment

    Harlequin Decline
    #2506712, posted on September 24, 2017 at 10:50 pm

    The other was that the Americans intervened in a country about which they knew as much as they did of the far side of the moon.

    They cover this but, to my mind they are looking at it with the benefit of hindsight. From the US perspective (at the time) the Korean war, the Chinese and Russian support for the Viet Minh plus the Communist activities in Indonesia and Malaya led the US to not unreasonably fear a takeover of SE Asia as the colonial powers withdrew.

    The historical animosity of the Vietnamese to the Chinese( if the US recognised this at all) which played out in the long run was overridden by the indoctrination of Ho and his disciples in the USSR and China and the Cold War perspectives.

    And ALL the f*kers went to the Capital of Communism – The Sorbonne in France.

  72. srr

    Bill Mitchell‏Verified account @mitchellvii 21m21 minutes ago

    Tim Tebow bent a knee to honor God and the NFL attacked him.

    Jeanine Pirro‏Verified account @JudgeJeanine 11h11 hours ago

    . @michellemalkin came on ‘Justice’ to discuss Pres.Trumps blasting of the NFL anthem ‘kneelers’. Take a look:

    https://twitter.com/JudgeJeanine/status/911765148435546113

  73. Fisky

    They cover this but, to my mind they are looking at it with the benefit of hindsight. From the US perspective (at the time) the Korean war, the Chinese and Russian support for the Viet Minh plus the Communist activities in Indonesia and Malaya led the US to not unreasonably fear a takeover of SE Asia as the colonial powers withdrew.

    The historical animosity of the Vietnamese to the Chinese( if the US recognised this at all) which played out in the long run was overridden by the indoctrination of Ho and his disciples in the USSR and China and the Cold War perspectives.

    Ho and his party had no animosity to Mao’s China at all. There is a quote (which is possibly fake) that has him saying he’d rather put up with a few years of the French than another thousand years of the Chinese, but that was almost certainly when the Kuomintang were still in power. He never had any objection to signing one-sided agreements with the Chinese (in their favour), so long as Mao kept the arms flowing.

  74. I guess no Chinese businessman has yet made a donation to Dastyari to vote No.

    So far the Yes campaign are spectacularly stuffing up their campaign. The gays and lesbians who are getting all the press are the activist types, especially the ones trying to prevent No campaigners express their opinions. They are alienating a lot of people. They are endangering the result for the “quiet” gays who have been in long term committed relationships. They must be watching in despair at the tactics so far.

  75. OneWorldGovernment

    Steve trickler.
    #2506717, posted on September 24, 2017 at 10:57 pm

    Worthy of a repeat. A break in transmission.

    It is a great video Steve.

    There are a few others out there regarding development of jet propelled aircraft that are well worth watching.

    Gutsy blokes.

  76. OneWorldGovernment

    Fisky
    #2506720, posted on September 24, 2017 at 11:04 pm

    Ho and his party had no animosity to Mao’s China at all. There is a quote (which is possibly fake) that has him saying he’d rather put up with a few years of the French than another thousand years of the Chinese, but that was almost certainly when the Kuomintang were still in power. He never had any objection to signing one-sided agreements with the Chinese (in their favour), so long as Mao kept the arms flowing.

    Agree Fisky.

    Scum communists all.

    Just as chairman Maolcolm Turnbull and his son quote the great leader.

    I wonder when the purges will start in Australia.

  77. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Ho and his party had no animosity to Mao’s China at all. There is a quote (which is possibly fake) that has him saying he’d rather put up with a few years of the French than another thousand years of the Chinese, but that was almost certainly when the Kuomintang were still in power.

    The quote was in regard to the temporary occupation of what is now North Viet Nam, by the Nationalist Chinese, in 1946. “The last time the Chinese were here, they stayed a thousand years. I would rather sniff French shit for five years, then have the Chinese back here.”

  78. Whalehunt Fun

    And ALL the f*kers went to the Capital of Communism – The Sorbonne in France.

    The US would have done us all a favour if instead of going to war with Nth Vietnam, they had bombed the Sorbonne with 1% of the munitions and 1% of the Agent Orange they expended on Vietnam. It would have killed more communist filth at 100 times less cost.

  79. Andreas

    Speaking of mOnty’s boasting about doing his charity work today…

    Belittles and mocks Abbott’s volunteer fire-fighting one week, boasts about standing at a barbecue for two hours the next…

  80. twostix

    Richardson’s “we’re going to truimph and sorry-not-sorry we’re so vicious” is the worst thing out of the campaign so far.

    At least activists promising to burn churches are being up front and honest.

    Richardson is like the muslim who explicitly benefits from the terror that the lunatics at her mosque create around the local area while pretending to be “horrified” by it.

  81. Fisky

    Richardson is the Jamal Rifi of the Labor party.

  82. twostix

    Belittles and mocks Abbott’s volunteer fire-fighting one week, boasts about standing at a barbecue for two hours the next…

    Oh m0nty.

    It didn’t work at all man.
    Fall back to plan B m0nty, break out the “casually mention you’re a father and givea folksy tale of tonights bathtime” script, stat!

  83. Mike of Marion

    Jeez, that Marc Marquez can ride a motor cycle – another win.

    And the old Italian poof VR46 completed the race – 22 days after breaking his right leg in two spots!!

  84. Harlequin Decline

    And ALL the f*kers went to the Capital of Communism – The Sorbonne in France.

    Yes, ironic that the French fostered their future enemies. Seems to repeat through history-the Germans helped Lenin get to Russia, the US supported Saddam against Iran….

  85. twostix

    Why is it so hard to accept that it is legitimate for a Catholic or a Muslim to adhere to the values they preach? There seems to be a twist in this debate that has evil undertones. Too many Yes campaigners are becoming just plain anti-religious.

    This is an instructive quote from Richardson.

    Muslims are 2% of the population, catholics are like 25%. Because Muslims use violence their 2% are elevated in the national conciousness to be mentioned alongside the 25%.

    This is how and why terrorism works, this is why Richardson is a piece of shit for celebrating his belief in an impeding “truimph” while pre-apologising for the violence of his side and pretending it had nothing to do with the “triumphal” outcome.

    The left are the wests native Muslims.

  86. Fisky

    Why is it so hard to accept that it is legitimate for a Catholic or a Muslim to adhere to the values they preach? There seems to be a twist in this debate that has evil undertones. Too many Yes campaigners are becoming just plain anti-religious.

    This is an instructive quote from Richardson.

    This is just Richardson trying to cover his bases with ALP-leaning voting blocs. That’s all. There is no other purpose being served by his intervention.

  87. 132andBush

    Sad to read that about your SECCO, Zulu.

    Give him a good, belated, send off.

  88. twostix

    Richardson is pre-apologising so that after the “triumph” he can say “look, I was there, I was saying the violence and intimidation wasn’t ok, so to suggest that the yes camp… blah blah blah”.

    Except we need to pre-emptively reject his half-baked fakery. The “triumph” if it comes is most definitely resting atop a campaign of violence and intimidation. As does all leftism now.

  89. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Sad to read that about your SECCO, Zulu.

    Give him a good, belated, send off.

    Thanks for that, I will.

    Share-farmer on the blower, earlier. He’s juggling shearing, together with half way decent finishing rains, on the wheat crop. Not sorry to be retired.

  90. Bruce in WA

    Wife and I went to see “Kingsman: The Golden Circle” this afternoon at the new Events Cinema complex at Whitfords. (Very nice cinema by the way.)

    I’ve read critics who didn’t like it, but for heaven’s sake … just sit back, relax, let everything go and enjoy it! The actors obviously did; they are all shamelessly hamming it up and having a ball. In surroundsound it’s unbelievably loud, but that just drags you in further.

    We absolutely loved it … except for Merlin, whom I always thought was the best character/actor. And Hanna Alström is delightful eye-candy. (Sorry, ladies, but she is gorgeous and I am an alpha male after all.)

    And Sir Elton John is like you’ve seen him before … (And watch for the inside joke; the two “watchdogs” are called “Bennie” and “Jet”. Elton? Bennie and the … never mind.)

    It delightfully passed away a very wet Sunday arvo. If you just want to enjoy something over the top, full of CGI inserts and greenscreens, and wall-to-wall nonstop action, without pause, go and see the damned thing. Just don’t expect “Gone with the wind”!

  91. 132andBush

    We desperately need rain here.
    Last two days have been like a blow torch on already stressed crops.
    That’s farming.

  92. Stimpson J. Cat

    standing at a barbecue for two hours the next…

    No no no.
    Manning a till.
    Not cooking a BBQ.
    Let us be clear.

  93. Harlequin Decline

    Ho and his party had no animosity to Mao’s China at all.

    They appeared quite willing to sacrifice large numbers of their population to achieve their aims. Their victory at Dien Bien Phu was achieved with 3 times the losses on the French side. Plus the bastards force marched thousands of the prisoners several hundred kilometers to camps with many dying en route. The TV series episode mentions the former but omits the latter.

  94. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    We desperately need rain here.
    Last two days have been like a blow torch on already stressed crops.
    That’s farming.

    I’m posting from Western Australia. We had the third driest April in nearly a hundred years. Half the wheat never made it out of the ground, half of the barley we planted for sheep feed never made it out of the ground , and fvck all of the five hundred hectares of oats planted for hay.

    I got back into sheep, in a big way, when all my neighbors were getting out of sheep. They thought I’d gone mad at last….

  95. Bruce in WA

    Speaking of motorcycles, when I was younger (in my 20s) I had one these … Suzuki GT550 triple two-stroke (same colour). Not as vicious a power band as the 750 or the H2 Kwakka, but when you wound up the wick, it fairly went.

  96. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Plus the bastards force marched thousands of the prisoners several hundred kilometers to camps with many dying en route. The TV series episode mentions the former but omits the latter.

    Bernard B. Fall’s books “Hell In A Very Small Place” (on the battle of Dien Bien Phu) and “Street Without Joy” ( on the whole French campaign in Indo China) contain some grim statistics – Viet Minh prison camps were little better then concentration camps…

  97. OneWorldGovernment

    132andBush
    #2506744, posted on September 24, 2017 at 11:42 pm

    We desperately need rain here.
    Last two days have been like a blow torch on already stressed crops.
    That’s farming.

    132andBush

    You have probably indicated before but would you mind indicating your general region?

    And yes, drought is a stress to everything.

    All the best.

  98. As per Bruce in WA also saw Kingsman today and he summed it up very well.

    Good cast with Julianne Moore as the over the top villain (don’t eat a burger in her diner) and Jeff Bridges, Halle Berry, Channing Tatum, and Pedro Pascal as the agents of Statesman a US organisation that Kingsman needs support from.

    Elton Johns role a bit bigger than most cameos and even has a fight scene.

    Not Bond but it is fun.

  99. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    BREAKING NEWS: American football stars drop to their knees during national anthem at Wembley in protest defying Donald Trump after he said sportsman who ‘disrespect America’ should be SACKED

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4914656/American-football-stars-drop-knees.html#ixzz4tbeBuXuH
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

    I would have thought that kneeling to the tune of your National Anthem would be the ultimate gesture of respect?

  100. Oh come on

    Whereas it’s been pissing down with rain in Perth for most of the day…

    The Water Corporation is running TV ads that are basically saying ‘yeah we’ve had a helluva wet couple of months and water reserves are plentiful but save water because climate change!’

    These dolts are trying to normalise the concept of a four minute shower, who needs more than that? After all, you can sing your favourite song in four minutes. Plenty of time!

    A four minute shower, wtf? That’s not normal. I might have a four minute shower if I slept through my alarm and woke up 20 minutes before I’d usually be walking out the door.

  101. Oh come on

    The Yanks are bloody weird. Kneeling for your national anthem with your hand on your heart – don’t get why this is considered unpatriotic, also don’t get why it’s seen as a kind of protest.

  102. calli

    Speaking of climate change, CNN ha Chile’s female president opining on the subject.

    She was worried about increased hurricanes and droughts and earthquakes and volcanoes.

    Certifiable.

  103. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The Yanks are bloody weird. Kneeling for your national anthem with your hand on your heart – don’t get why this is considered unpatriotic, also don’t get why it’s seen as a kind of protest.

    I’m struggling with that – your hand over your heart/over your medals is seen as a gesture of respect – you cover your heart/medals to show they don’t matter, you are showing your respect to those you honour.

  104. Oh come on

    Gaia is very very angry at us. Positively shaking with fury. She’s absolutely steaming and is gunna blow, bigtime.

    Hence more earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, hurricanes and so on. That’s what the science tells us.

  105. Oh come on

    Was recently at an event organised by the South Vietnamese community in Perth. They still fly the South Vietnamese flag, sing the old anthem etc. They have assumed the US habit of putting their hand on their heart when they sing the South Vietnamese anthem.

    At least I think it’s a US thing. I haven’t really seen it in other countries (although I must admit I haven’t really paid close attention to the differing customs the peoples of the world have adopted whilst singing their national anthems).

  106. struth

    The Yanks are bloody weird. Kneeling for your national anthem with your hand on your heart – don’t get why this is considered unpatriotic, also don’t get why it’s seen as a kind of protest.

    It’s unpatriotic because they have stated why they are doing it.
    Protesting against America.
    The president of the flag of freedom really has no choice, even if he didn’t want to comment, he should.
    Trump wanted to though, and with every right.

    They are not defying Donald Trump.
    He never put an order out to stop it.
    He didn’t threaten to send in the Stasi.
    He said, in his opinion, they should be sacked, which he can’t do.

    To lefties, not being loved, egos not stroked, their opposition not silenced, makes them victims of totalitarianism.

  107. struth

    At least I think it’s a US thing. I haven’t really seen it in other countries (although I must admit I haven’t really paid close attention to the differing customs the peoples of the world have adopted whilst singing their national anthems).

    A look of confusion is the custom for Australians once it gets past “Australians all let us rejoice” when they thought they were supposed to shout out Aussie Aussie Aussie Oy Oy Oy.

  108. Pete of Perth

    OCO…I’m off to have my 20 minute shower.

  109. Stimpson J. Cat

    The Yanks are bloody weird. Kneeling for your national anthem with your hand on your heart – don’t get why this is considered unpatriotic, also don’t get why it’s seen as a kind of protest.

    You either stand with your country, for your country, or you do not.
    There are no excuses.
    Unless you are a disabled or a dead or an old.

  110. Oh come on

    But why is kneeling especially offensive, as opposed to just not standing?

  111. Oh come on

    Symbolically, kneeling is not especially subversive – if anything, it’s submissive.

  112. Oh come on

    If I didn’t know the background, I’d look at the photos of the kneelers and assume they’re particularly zealous patriots.

  113. Oh come on

    Heath was likely a nonce. Wow, big newsflash, Gerard0. This info has been kicking around for a few years.

    Heath was the last in a string of rubbish big-government Tory PMs. He tried to torpedo Thatcher’s rise, but happily she demolished him and went on to revitalise the UK.

  114. OCO, because no one in the US kneels to the playing of their national anthem. Further, it takes the focus off the nation and places it upon themselves. I don’t think it’s especially offensive but it need not be in order to be offensive and a demonstration of insolence.

  115. Fisky

    Good lord. Trannies openly calling for political violence against feminists. For me this is a Saddam-Khomeini kind of thing, like antifa versus the nazis. Maybe just sit back and let them have at it.

    A transgender campaign group that gave evidence to an influential parliamentary committee has publicly supported violence against women.

    Members of Action for Trans Health (ATH) have issued a series of incendiary statements on social media since its supporters were involved in an attack on a 60-year-old woman in London’s Hyde Park on September 13.

    The victim, Maria MacLachlan, suffered bruising after being punched by an activist widely identified on social media as Tara Flik Wood, 28, a courier who lives in London. MacLachlan was with a group of feminists who were planning to hold a meeting about gender identity.

  116. zyconoclast

    Symbolically, kneeling is not especially subversive – if anything, it’s submissive.

    Should they reintroduce the Belamy Salute?

  117. Fisky

    This may not hold, but if true it’s an excellent vote for the non-Merkelian right-wing in Germany. Nearly 25% for the AfD and classical liberals combined. Unfortunately, there is no alternative to Merkel as Chancellor but it looks like the AfD will be the official opposition.

    Europe Elects @EuropeElects
    Germany, exit poll (leak, unconfirmed):

    CDU/CSU-EPP: 35.5%
    SPD-S&D: 20.5%
    AfD-ENF: 14.5%
    LINKE-LEFT: 10%
    FDP-ALDE: 10%
    GRÜNE-G/EFA: 8%

  118. Fisky

    Here it is, official exit poll.

    Alberto Nardelli
    Alberto Nardelli @AlbertoNardelli
    ·
    2m
    Germany – #BTW17 election – ARD exit poll:

    CDU/CSU 32.5%
    SPD 20%
    AfD 13.5%
    FDP 10.5%
    GRN 9.5%
    LINKE 9%

    That’s a poor result for Merkel, but absolutely horrible for the Left. Big swing to the right-wing parties AfD and FDP.

  119. Fisky

    Tim Montgomerie ن @montie
    ·
    25s
    Theresa May 42.3%; Angela Merkel 32.5%

  120. Oh come on

    OCO, because no one in the US kneels to the playing of their national anthem. Further, it takes the focus off the nation and places it upon themselves. I don’t think it’s especially offensive but it need not be in order to be offensive and a demonstration of insolence.

    Oh, sure. All the brou-ha-ha surrounding this nonsense makes it clear that the kneelers are virtue signallers. I’m just saying that viewed in isolation it doesn’t strike me as an especially powerful symbol of subversion, protest or dissent. It’s rather far removed from Rosa Parks refusing to give up her seat for a white passenger on a bus, or the black power salute at the 1968 Mexico City Olympics.

  121. Fisky

    AFP news agency @AFP
    ·
    4m
    Replying to @AFP
    #BREAKING Germany’s SPD refuses new coalition with Merkel after vote drubbing

    Actually, the SPD have enough votes to be Merkel’s junior coalition partner with a majority between them. The reason they are leaving the government is so the AfD don’t become the official opposition. Nothing more.

  122. Fisky

    This is good news for Brexit. Merkel has been vastly weakened and will lead a mess of a government –

    Matthew Goodwin @GoodwinMJ
    ·
    2m
    Betting markets quickly on their way to expecting next German government = CDU/CSU + FDP + Green #BTW17

  123. I’m just saying that viewed in isolation it doesn’t strike me as an especially powerful symbol of subversion, protest or dissent.

    But neither would the Rosa Parks incident seems powerful if you strip the context of segregation from the act.

  124. Oh come on

    But you can’t strip that context from Rosa Parks’s act, which is what makes it courageous. What Rosa Parks did actually took guts. These kneelers are claiming the mantle of the likes of Parks whilst being filthy rich and privileged which is bad enough, but more importantly, their very act doesn’t resemble one of courage or dissent. If anything, it looks obsequious and fawning. We only know it is intended to be an act of protest or whatever because that’s what they say it is. Watch it with the TV on mute and you wouldn’t figure that.

  125. Oh come on

    What I mean is that if you saw an athlete get down on one knee to sing the national anthem with his hand on his heart, would you presume

    a) an unconventional demonstration intended to display a heightened sense of patriotism, despite this being a possibly misguided and ill-considered act that some may find offensive

    b) a protest to show solidarity with whatever the hell the wanker BLM/SJW crowd is currently whinging about

    Because, in all honesty, if they didn’t tell me it was B, I would have assumed A. That’s what it looks like to me.

  126. OCO, black people in NYC could sit in the front of the bus no problems. It’s only the context of her doing it in the South during segregation that makes it revolutionary, and courageous given her own modest background. I completely admit that the footballer’s claim are nonsense and confusing without any knowledge of what he told us he’s demonstrating.

  127. srr

    FMD!
    You would have to think your audience are idiots to believe, you’re “confused”, by one of the most public and long running Anti-Patriot movements to be all over main stream and social media.

    RNR Kentucky‏ @RNRKentucky 7h7 hours ago

    Taking a knee in 🙏 to #God is the only time you will see me kneel‼️
    This goes for all true #Patriots‼️
    We’ll #StandForTheFlag

    https://twitter.com/RNRKentucky/status/911913101188042752
    #TakeAKnee #RNR

    KAYA‏Verified account @KayaJones 3h3 hours ago

    I hope you are never handed a folded flag.
    There’s a lot of blood & bones on that flag.
    Stand Up!
    Respect the dead.
    Respect freedom.
    It isnt free

  128. srr

    m0nty’s side of politics yet again answering the dog whistle of m0nty’s side of politics –

    One killed in mass shooting at Antioch church, Nashville police say

    At least one person has been killed and seven others have been injured at a church shooting in Antioch.

    The shooter was wounded and is being treated at the hospital, according to Metro Nashville Police.

    Police say the gunman opened fire at Burnette Chapel Church of Christ, killing a woman and injuring six others. Another person was pistol whipped and has been taken to the hospital.

    Around noon, Joseph Pleasant, a spokesman for the Nashville Fire Department, confirmed at least six to eight people have been injured and were being transported to Vanderbilt Medical Center.

    In a tweet from the Nashville Fire Department account, officials said the shooter was among eight people being treated for injuries. One victim was pistol whipped, according to police.

    All of the wounded have been taken to area hospitals, the fire department says. The majority are older adults. “All of the wounded except for one is over the age of 60,” the Nashville Fire Department said.

    http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2017/09/24/nashville-police-responding-shooting-antioch-church/697968001/

  129. Tintarella di Luna

    This kneeling by these NFL wankers who are richer than Midas could be a real game changer (pun intended) 00 I reckon everyone in the crowd should also get down on one knee — that’d take the “look-a-me, look-a-me” out of it in an instant. Just play football you effeminate pussies.

  130. srr

    This guy gets it, but then, he’s a black Christian, and only a child –

    CJ Pearson
    Born – Coreco Ja’Quan Pearson
    July 31, 2002 (age 15)

    CJ Pearson‏ @thecjpearson 20h20 hours ago

    [email protected] isn’t going after @Kaepernick7 and @StephenCurry30 for being black.
    He’s going after them for their disrespect of America.

    https://twitter.com/thecjpearson/status/911619527775064064

    Pearson also criticized Obama, saying, “If you really did love America, you would call (Islamic State) what it really is: an assault on Christianity, an assault on America and downright hate for the American values that our country holds—freedom of speech, freedom of religion and every single thing that our country stands for”.

  131. srr

    Sunday Talks: Treasury Secretary Mnuchin -vs- Self Described “Devils Advocate”…
    Posted on September 24, 2017 by sundance

    Well, at least Jake Tapper defined his intent honestly in this interview where he explains his role is to advocate for the devil. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin talks with CNN’s Jake Tapper about President Donald Trump’s criticism of athletes kneeling during the national anthem and the the administration’s tax cut plan:
    *
    Continue reading →
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/09/24/sunday-talks-treasury-secretary-mnuchin-vs-self-described-devils-advocate/#more-138886

    *

  132. srr

    NFL Jaguars and Ravens Take Knee for Star Spangled Banner, Stand up for ‘God Save The Queen’…
    Posted on September 24, 2017 by sundance

    This is actually funny. Seriously, it is hilarious. The NFL has made a collective decision to destroy itself and the hilarious part is the hives’ echo-chamber is so deafening they can’t hear the organizational structure collapsing around them.

    In church this morning a lady shared something with me. She said: …”and now we know why faith stopped Tim Tebow from a career in the NFL.” Expanding, she said her belief was that God knew this moment was coming and he protected a loyal servant by denying entry onto the NFL ‘field of schemes’ as a career.

    You know, I think that lady is on to something…

    https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/baltimore-ravens-and-jacksonville-jaguars.jpg

    The Jacksonville Jaguars and Baltimore Ravens are in England today for a game in London. When the U.S. National Anthem was played both teams disrespected the USA and yet stood up for the U.K National Anthem ‘God Save The Queen’. Think about that.

    The NFL, writ large, is nuts. They’ve lost their minds. The NFL players, managers, league officials and owners, along with downstream sport punditry and networks, obviously think virtue signaling their collective unity plays well -mostly in their echo-chamber because of the support from left-wing media- but outside their bubble they are destroying their own business model. Watch what happens.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/trump-nfl.jpg

    Continue reading →
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/09/24/nfl-jaguars-and-ravens-take-knee-for-star-spangled-banner-stand-up-for-god-save-the-queen/

  133. srr

    Serious question; why would anyone claim to respect the commentary of anyone who claims to be ‘confused’ about the intent and purpose of this?

    NFL SNOWFLAKES MELT:
    COACHES AND OWNER JOIN
    MASSIVE ANTI-TRUMP PROTEST — IN U.K.

    http://www.breitbart.com/sports/2017/09/24/politics-ver-waters-edge-jags-ravens-coaches-owner-stage-massive-anti-trump-anthem-protest-london/

    …PITTSBURGH STEELERS
    BOYCOTT NATIONAL ANTHEM,
    STAY IN LOCKER ROOM…

    http://www.breitbart.com/sports/2017/09/24/pittsburgh-steelers-planned-stay-locker-room-national-anthem-plan-may-conflict-league-rules/

  134. srr

    Feminists Should Oppose Sharia Law
    The Thinkery
    Sep 24, 2017
    Sharia Law is bad for women, but intersectionality is crippling the feminist movement’s ability to help.

  135. Bruce of Newcastle

    Just play football you effeminate pussies.

    Heh! I liked this take-home truthiness from one opinionista yesterday:

    It’s about time the president stands up to a bunch of overpaid, petulant brats whose only discernible life skill is to play with balls.

    Bam!

  136. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    London accused of ‘bogus’ Uber ruling
    Licence cancellation dubbed politically motivated

  137. notafan

    Australians must be closely familiar with American idiosyncrasies, if they claim not to be, they clearly agents of Soros.

    Everybody knows that.

  138. srr

    Cowardly liars who work at telling others to give cover to cowardly liars by acting like idiots, are c#nts.

    Everyone knows that.

  139. Tintarella di Luna

    Has chairman Merkle transitioned?

    Pantsuit Nation rules

  140. notafan

    Burnette Chapel of Christ is a mixed race community of worshippers.

    The name of the black assailant has not been released and no one from the police department or any other agency or group had claimed or identified a motive.

  141. srr

    0‏ @__0HOUR1_ 16m16 minutes ago

    Nashville police took a 26 yr old african american in custody for shooting white people at a church this morning.

    But #TakeAKnee losers.

  142. srr

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 20m20 minutes ago

    Courageous Patriots have fought and died for our great American Flag —
    – we MUST honor and respect it!

    MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

  143. srr

    0‏ @__0HOUR1_ 2h2 hours ago

    No one is a bigger Football fan than me I have unfollowed and turned off the @NFL

    I will not let our Troops be treated like VIETNAM VETS!

  144. notafan

    Fake News on Burnett.

    The church has a Facebook page and is clearly a mixed race religious community with black, white and Hispanic members, both adults and children.

    If the gunman sprayed indiscriminately he cannot have been targeting ‘white people’

  145. Fergus

    Kneel for your God, stand for your Country.

  146. srr

    Steven Ertelt‏ @StevenErtelt 25m25 minutes ago

    Man Awakens After 12 Years in a “Vegetative State,” Says “I Was Aware of Everything”
    https://buff.ly/2xoIEpn

    In the 1980’s, 12-year-old Martin Pistorious became seriously ill with what doctor’s believed was Cryptococci Meningitis. His health started deteriorating and Martin lost his ability to move, make eye contact and even speak to others. His doctors told his parents, Rodney and Joan Pistorious, to bring him home and let him die. They told them he was as good as a vegetable.

    However, he didn’t die.

    Joan said, “Martin just kept going, just kept going.”

    According to NPR news, his father would get up at 5 o’clock in the morning, get him dressed, load him in the car, take him to the special care center where he’d leave him. Rodney said, “Eight hours later, I’d pick him up, bathe him, feed him, put him in bed, set my alarm for two hours so that I’d wake up to turn him so that he didn’t get bedsores.”

    For twelve years, Martin’s family cared for him without any sign that he was improving. Joan started to despair and even told her son, “I hope you die.”

    Today she acknowledges that was a horrible thing to say but says she just wanted some sort of relief. Remarkably, now Martin is 39-years-old and says he was totally aware of everything going on around him.

    He said, “Yes, I was there, not from the very beginning, but about two years into my vegetative state, I began to wake up. I was aware of everything, just like any normal person. Everyone was so used to me not being there that they didn’t notice when I began to be present again. The stark reality hit me that I was going to spend the rest of my life like that — totally alone.”

    Unfortunately, Martin was even aware of his mother’s harsh words and began believing that no one would ever love him. He said, “You don’t really think about anything. You simply exist. It’s a very dark place to find yourself because, in a sense, you are allowing yourself to vanish.”

    Click here to sign up for daily pro-life news alerts from LifeNews.com

    Martin spent most of those days at a care center where his caregivers played Barney reruns over and over again. They did this because they believed he was a vegetable too. He said, “I cannot even express to you how much I hated Barney.”

    But eventually, Martin became frustrated with being trapped in his own body and started to try and take control of his life. He learned to tell time by the rising and setting of the sun and would reframe even the ugliest of thoughts that haunted him like his mother’s wish for him to die. “As time passed, I gradually learned to understand my mother’s desperation. Every time she looked at me, she could see only a cruel parody of the once-healthy child she had loved so much,” said Martin.

    Now Martin is married and has penned a memoire about his life. He has gained control of his body and in his book Ghost Boy, he writes, “My mind was trapped inside a useless body, my arms and legs weren’t mine to control and my voice was mute. I couldn’t make a sign or sounds to let anyone know I’d become aware again. I was invisible—the ghost boy.”

    Martin’s survival is a testament to how little we actually know about the human brain and a good reminder that we should value all life— even when we hear the terrifying words “your loved one is a vegetable” or in a “vegetative state” from a medical professional.

  147. srr

    Jordan B Peterson‏ @jordanbpeterson 1h1 hour ago
    Jordan B Peterson Retweeted Christopher Chabris

    There’s little hope for academia…

    Christopher ChabrisVerified account @cfchabris
    “The author is a graduate student who must write under a pseudonym for fear of retribution from faculty.” https://legalinsurrection.com/2017/09/third-world-quarterly-publishes-the-case-for-colonialism-leading-to-censorship-demands/amp/

  148. notafan

    Fergus,

    It seems obvious enough now but for Christian cultured people from outside the US for whom kneeling is a sign of humility, the symbolism of taking a knee as an act of defiance is not clear cut.

    No big deal in querying why is it so, unless your heart is full of bile and hatred for your fellow man.

  149. Hydra

    so Merkel shall remain PM?

    Interesting that the vote was held during Oktoberfest…

  150. srr

    Hey, lets all pretend no one notices how consistently the devils advocate comes out to blow sulfurous smoke cover stories for murderous devils.

  151. Hydra

    Coz I’m in Munich at the moment and nobody gives a shit.

  152. notafan

    What matters is the truth.

    Reputable outlets call Burnett Chapel a mixed race religious community and their own Facebook page confirmed it.

    Repeating a lie in the face of clear irrefutable evidence to the contrary is the problem here.

    No-one is covering for a murderer.

  153. notafan

    Would that be 🍺 related Hydra?

  154. Fergus

    Kneel because god is your power, stand because you are your country’s power, always ready to defend.

  155. feelthebern

    How long before taking a knee is an anti-Trump thing, not a Black Lives Matter thing like Colin K started it to be?

    BTW, I’m calling it.
    David Pocock will take a knee at the next Wallabies match.

  156. Hydra

    Would that be 🍺 related Hydra?

    Prost!

    We started in Prague about 8 days ago. Have tried about 28 different beers so far.

  157. Bruce of Newcastle

    the symbolism of taking a knee as an act of defiance is not clear cut

    Notafan – ‘Taking a knee’ is a specific action in the game of gridiron where the quarterback is refusing to continue the play. There are certain situations in the game where this is tactically appropriate, but the symbolism in the context is clear. Being on both knees is respectful certainly.

    I learned something earlier when checking up on a certain picture. It turns out there is an actual “US Flag Code” which stipulates the response:

    During a rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed all present except those in uniform should stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart.

    As you see from the photo Mr Obama wasn’t quite doing it correctly. 😀

  158. feelthebern

    I watched some college football on the weekend.
    All I saw was free flowing, exciting football.
    Far far more entertaining than the NFL.
    & because most college ball is played on a Saturday (US time), it fits in well with Oz, as it gives us something to watch after our footy season ending.

  159. The next act for aussie politicians will be taking the knee to oppose Trump in solidarity.

    https://www.river1467.com.au/news/news-sport/76509-bono-and-broad

    Their andrew broad has already written to bono out of U2, begging for foreign policy ideas, the cultural cringe addiction of the turnbull debacle coalition will fully sick embrace ‘taking the knee’.

  160. Will turnbull and bishop ‘take the knee’ at the afl grand final?, or even for the woeful turnbull failure team will it be too soon?.

    Taking the knee in australian politics is currently reserved for the back rooms where the Chinese hand out the brown paper bags of cash, and for when being received into the prescence of waleed, their Golden Calf.

  161. C.L.

    OCO, you can’t assume the kneelers actually know what they’re doing or why.
    It started as a ‘protest’ about the various black people shot by police and morphed into a generalised black sook about ‘racism’. No black player on the team can now stand, lest he be ostracised.

  162. Nick

    From the SMH

    “First time door-knockers Matt Dempsey, 23, Kate Littrich, 23, and Kurt Hughes, 21, were expecting a positive response from Leichhardt locals.

    “We’re all pretty active on social media and we’ve seen some negative stuff thrown around there but I think it’s very different when you’re face to face with someone, they’re less inclined to be so upfront,” Mr Dempsey said.

    So, the door knocking is really about bullying people.

    “When you get to people on a personal level – we’re standing there in front of them – I think we’ll get a different response.”

  163. C.L.

    Like others (above) I had to laugh at the Richardson intervention.
    SS”M” debate “becoming” anti-religious, he says.
    Becoming?
    That was always its driving force, you phony clown.

  164. Diogenes

    “First time door-knockers Matt Dempsey, 23, Kate Littrich, 23, and Kurt Hughes, 21, were expecting a positive response from Leichhardt locals.

    Then what is the point other than virtue signalling. I suggest they try Lakemba or Mt Druitt. It may just open their eyes.

  165. srr

    Kneelers Booed: Patriots Fans Rain Down Boo’s Upon 20 Hate-filled Players (video)…
    Posted on September 24, 2017 by sundance

    Approximately 20 New England Patriots football players* decided to showcase their hatred for America and took a knee during the National Anthem. The Foxborough Massachusetts crowd rained down a chorus of angry boos. Watch:
    *
    As many people are observing, this expressed and visible hatred for the USA is not going to end with a good outcome for the NFL. The league and liberal idiots in charge can try and hide from this, and the media will do everything possible to avoid reality, but the backlash is only going to get much worse and the NFL has only itself to blame.

    The financial value of the NFL is dropping quickly.

    *Continue reading →
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/09/24/kneelers-booed-patriots-fans-rain-down-boos-upon-20-hate-filled-players-video/

    *

  166. srr

    Christian Church goers in Christian Church in Christian America get attacked by a shooter.

    At least one of the 7 (nearly all over 60 year old), victims is killed.

    What is holier than thou cow Catholic notafan moved to comment on it –

    notafan
    #2506846, posted on September 25, 2017 at 6:01 am

    Fake News on Burnett.

    The church has a Facebook page and is clearly a mixed race religious community with black, white and Hispanic members, both adults and children.

    If the gunman sprayed indiscriminately he cannot have been targeting ‘white people’

    Why?

    Where was this “Fake News” that the gunman was “targeting ‘white people'”?

    And why did notafan have to make that Fake News, The News, about a gunman shooting people in Christian Church in Christian America?

    Because notafan is of m0nty’s side of politics, and they all stand, kneel, grovel and lie for the same filth that send Anti-Christians out to literally murder Christians.

    srr
    #2506815, posted on September 25, 2017 at 4:11 am

    m0nty’s side of politics yet again answering the dog whistle of m0nty’s side of politics –

    One killed in mass shooting at Antioch church, Nashville police say

    At least one person has been killed and seven others have been injured at a church shooting in Antioch.

    The shooter was wounded and is being treated at the hospital, according to Metro Nashville Police.

    Police say the gunman opened fire at Burnette Chapel Church of Christ, killing a woman and injuring six others. Another person was pistol whipped and has been taken to the hospital.

    Around noon, Joseph Pleasant, a spokesman for the Nashville Fire Department, confirmed at least six to eight people have been injured and were being transported to Vanderbilt Medical Center.

    In a tweet from the Nashville Fire Department account, officials said the shooter was among eight people being treated for injuries. One victim was pistol whipped, according to police.

    All of the wounded have been taken to area hospitals, the fire department says. The majority are older adults. “All of the wounded except for one is over the age of 60,” the Nashville Fire Department said.

    Read The Whole Thing, Including what is at all the links.
    http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2017/09/24/nashville-police-responding-shooting-antioch-church/697968001/

    So where was that “Fake News” about “targeting white people”.

    Black man arrested for “shooting” white people, was NOT a lie, notafan.
    YOUR Lie that he was “targeting” white people, Is The LIE.

    But of course, you being such a Religious Catholic, simply had to attack My Point that Yet Again, Christians in a Christian Church in Christian America were targeted for murder. And you had no problem confecting a lie to do it … coz you’re so Christian Catholic and so much better than mere Christians … shot down in Church, thanks to busy little lying devil’s advocates like you all Facebook and other mental murderer grooming sites on the internet-web-of-deception.

  167. Tintarella di Luna

    I see the great communicator to and economic saviour of Australia has slid further into the political abyss and it is really staring back hard – what was Abbott’s lowest poll figures and personal ratings again?

    To see the utter decimation of the Liberal party is simply not enough – one in ten is not enough – there should be a rump of about 25 and that’s it — the rest can go to hell by Termite Express.

  168. twostix

    Trumps ability to make peopke do whatever he wants them to via Twitter is extraordinary.

    He orders the NFL to act like retards so they begin by acting like spiteful retards….in front of a foreign country.

    The very best way to expose the left and the full scope of its infestation of society to the everyman is to goad them into full blown displays of power and retardness.

  169. lotocoti

    This morning’s problem at Sydney ATC explained.

  170. Rabz

    “Your electrickery bill is here”

    Enough to give you palpitations. In the end the shock is because it was quite low. $340. Not bad for a winter quarter, but I also have gas.

    I see the gerbil worming fabulists are already lying about Sydney’s weather over the weekend. Saturday was warm but tolerable, while yesterday it didn’t seem to be over 28 degrees at any point. Damp squib.

  171. Bruce of Newcastle

    The church shooter is apparently a Sudanese immigrant from Khartoum.

    1 Dead, 7 Injured In Tennessee Church; “Clown Mask”-Wearing Shooter Identified As Sudanese Immigrant

    At least that is where he says on his Spacechook page he was from.

  172. stackja

    txlflyer‏ @txlflyer 1 hour ago
    Some very nice holding action at cruise level going on right now above #Mongolia before entry into #China airspace… #avgeek @flightradar24
    linky

  173. Like others (above) I had to laugh at the Richardson intervention.
    SS”M” debate “becoming” anti-religious, he says.
    Becoming?
    That was always its driving force, you phony clown.

    It was his Cpt. Renault moment. Watch how ‘Yes’ conservatives give their own interpretations too.

  174. Geriatric Mayfly

    Are thy trying to write NOabove the yurts?

    txlflyer‏ @txlflyer 1 hour ago
    Some very nice holding action at cruise level going on right now above #Mongolia before entry into #China airspace… #avgeek @flightradar24
    linky

  175. notafan

    At your 5.52am srr when you posted a tweet claiming that an African American had been taken into custody for shooting white people.

    This is the lie I was referring to.

    Now you keep blowing smoke about white people when the shooter was a former member of the congregation.

    I’m well aware that people who attend Christian churches are Christians but Christians come in many colours, it’s not a white religion.

    You thought/hoped it was a black man attack on a white church. The reverse of the murder of an African American congregation by a white man a couple of years back.. And you posted your usual ugly slurs and gabled nonsense to hide it.

    Emanuel btw, is a Christian name.

  176. notafan

    And go on about ‘Catholics’.

    It’s most illuminating.

  177. In church this morning a lady shared something with me. She said: …”and now we know why faith stopped Tim Tebow from a career in the NFL.” Expanding, she said her belief was that God knew this moment was coming and he protected a loyal servant by denying entry onto the NFL ‘field of schemes’ as a career.

    Well no, Tebow was just bad at football.

  178. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    It’s about time the president stands up to a bunch of overpaid, petulant brats whose only discernible life skill is to play with balls.

    These guys can catch a bag of wind and run fast. RESPECT!

  179. Rabz

    Gee, all that activism is really workin’ out well for the NFL, innit?

    Here’s hoping Fatty Trump continues to lay into the tin eared hypocrites.

  180. srr

    0‏ @__0HOUR1_ 3h3 hours ago

    Nashville police took a 26 yr old african american in custody for shooting white people at a church this morning.
    But #TakeAKnee losers.
    ..
    Athletes basically inspired some young Blackman to shoot up a white Nashville church the #TakAKnee virtue signaling is a call for violence,
    ..
    Gunman of the Nashville Church who decided to shoot old White People over the #TakeAKnee rhetoric.

    #NFL You guys did it!
    Sunday Murder!
    ..
    He’s not Muslim they are forbidden from piercing their ears.
    ..
    Nashville Shooter of the Old White People today Big NFL FAN

    #TAKEAKNEE

    SUNDAY MORNING MURDERS

    SPONSERED BY THE NFL

    0‏ @__0HOUR1_ 3m3 minutes ago
    0 Retweeted Joy Reid

    You got your wish

    http://dailycaller.com/2017/09/24/tennessee-church-shooter-suspect-identified-as-25-year-old-from-sudan/

    Welcome to the crazy media inspiring killers for the NFL

    Joy ReidVerified account @JoyAnnReid

    A lot of people who are mad at Collin Kaepernick will be kneeling in church today. `

    ______________________

    Yeah but don’t worry notafan, m0nty and Co., I’m sure ‘trusted‘ ‘not‘ fake media will be out shortly to give us all a completely, ‘Nothing to do with being patriotic Christian Americans, inspired this murderer to try to murder so many of them while they were attending their Christian Church.‘, spin on it, like they did with the Yes Voting Thug who head butted our No Voting Ex-PM.

  181. Presidential son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner has corresponded with other administration officials about White House matters through a private email account set up during the transition last December, part of a larger pattern of Trump administration aides using personal email accounts for government business.

    Kushner uses his private account alongside his official White House email account, sometimes trading emails with senior White House officials, outside advisers and others about media coverage, event planning and other subjects, according to four people familiar with the correspondence. POLITICO has seen and verified about two dozen emails.

    I look forward to the Cat condemning this breach of national security in the strongest of terms for all of eternity.

  182. notafan

    You doubled down.

    Wow.

    It’s a multiracial congregation.

    Anyone interested in the truth should visit the Burnett Chapel Church of Christ Facebook page.

    Not this first time srr has posted fake new, the Hawaiian senator story was a fiction from start to finish.

    Unreliable, to say the least.

  183. C.L.

    Why does Andrew Bolt post almost exclusively on Yes terrorism and Nazism while insisting that he personally will vote ‘Yes’? If you support gay ‘marriage’ you support a police state. It’s that simple.

  184. John64

    Rabz
    #2506910, posted on September 25, 2017 at 8:38 am
    LOL.

    We’ve all seen Trump Derangement Syndrome and Abbott Derangement Syndrome.

    Now, thanks to Rabz, witness Coal Derangement Syndrome.

  185. C.L.

    Jared Kushner = the Secretary of State, Monty now claims.
    Crazy stuff.

  186. Tom

    The Newspoll figures on the ABS SSM survey are fascinating:

    1. People feel so strongly about the issue it will have a turnout/participation rate of nearly 90%, compared to 93-95% in an election with compulsory voting.

    2. The Yes case is collapsing as the totalitarian left’s hijacking of the issue reveals itself.

    3. Considering the leftist hysteria of labelling SSM opponents “homophobes” — which few respondents will volunteer for in an opinion survey — it looks like No responses are way lower than reported.

    The Shy Tory factor evident in Brexit and Trump 2016 looks like it will be many times larger as an influence in this exercise because the bullying of opponents has been so vicious.

  187. notafan

    Andrew Bolt spins like a top. Happens when you embrace your pseudo intellectual, like Monty and certain others.

    The Facebook groups I’m a member of, populated with Aussie bogans are all 98% anti and see the looming jackboot as clearly as they understand the nature of marriage.

    No one selling them Emperor’s New Clothes.

  188. Rococo Liberal

    If you support gay ‘marriage’ you support a police state. It’s that simple.

    Well said.

  189. Bruce of Newcastle

    I look forward to the Cat condemning this breach of national security in the strongest of terms for all of eternity.

    OK I will. I think it is unacceptable and probably illegal. Lefties do it all the time.

    Speaking of which…

    Energy Minister Mark Bailey will not face criminal charges over email deletion (Saturday)

    Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk has returned Mark Bailey to cabinet despite the corruption watchdog slamming his deletion of a private email ­account as foolish, injudicious and a technical breach of the law.

    The Crime and Corruption Commission yesterday cleared Energy Minister Mark Bailey of corruption and declared it would not charge him, ­removing a hurdle should Ms Palaszczuk decide to call an early election when she returns from leave in a week.

    The probe found the Energy Minister had deleted more than 600 work-related emails containing public records without proper legal authority, including a “number” of missives from union officials including Electrical Trades Union boss Peter Simpson.

    Mr Bailey deleted his account 10 days after his office received a right-to-information request from The Weekend Australian seeking all correspondence between the account and union officials.

    But Mr MacSporran said even though Mr Bailey deleted more than 600 emails without authorisation under the act, it was not considered permanent disposal because Mr Bailey was forced to reactivate his account during the CCC probe and the public records were recovered.

    So Bailey deleted his private email account, which he used for communication with union heavies, 10 days after a FOIA from the Oz. Then he says he wasn’t aware of the FOIA. Then the CCC finds that he failed to actually delete the emails from the public record, despite seemingly attempting incompetently to do so, and refuse to charge him. Nice Ms Annastacia thereafter falls over herself to bring him back into the ministry.

    Some critters are more equal than others, eh M0nty?

  190. Rococo Liberal

    Gay marriage is the wrong answer to the right question.
    Partners in same sex unions should indeed have the same legal rights and privileges as partners in heterosexual unions. But that doesn’t require the definition of the word ‘marriage’ to be altered.

  191. srr

    notafan
    #2506913, posted on September 25, 2017 at 8:43 am

    And go on about ‘Catholics’.

    It’s most illuminating.

    You can’t stop lying, can you notafan. Just like a ‘good‘ little child of The Father of The Lie. It only takes a little twist of your tale to sell your lies as truth.

    You said –
    “And go on about ‘Catholics’.”

    I said Catholic, as I continued to illuminate people about you –

    “But of course, you being such a Religious Catholic, simply had to attack My Point that Yet Again, Christians in a Christian Church in Christian America were targeted for murder. And you had no problem confecting a lie to do it … coz you’re so Christian Catholic and so much better than mere Christians … shot down in Church, thanks to busy little lying devil’s advocates like you all [over] Facebook and other mental murderer grooming sites on the internet-web-of-deception.”

    Yeah, your constant sneering at, belittling and cheered on Gang Attacking of Christians who refuse to bend the knee to Lie Loving Catholics Like You, is very illuminating.

  192. srr

    notafan
    #2506912, posted on September 25, 2017 at 8:41 am

    At your 5.52am srr when you posted a tweet claiming that an African American had been taken into custody for shooting white people.

    This is the lie I was referring to.

    Yeah, NAH.

    That’s the post of a tweet You Chose to Lie About, with your usual little twist of a devil’s tale, removing the word, “shooting” and injecting the word “targeting” after the word “for”.

    He was arrested for shooting people, mostly old and white people, that is the truth, and he targeted Christians in a Christian Church, that is also the truth.

    I thought that pretty timely and relevant considering all the calls to burn Churches AND Christians, that the lying mainstream and online media (like your beloved Facebook), keep drawing to everyone’s attention here in Australia at the moment.

    But why would you give a shit about the relevance of that, when my posting a tweet about it made you believe you had another excuse to attack this old white Christian again.

  193. notafan

    Keep shouting at shrubs srr

  194. notafan

    Burnett Chapel Church of Christ have a Facebook page.

    That makes them part of the conspiracy, no doubt.

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