Wednesday Thursday Forum: September 28, 2017

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  1. struth

    Struth I have been struggling to understand why western governmments and elites have seemed to collude with the cultural marxist agenda

    It’s not hard to understand.

    The answer is purely time, and being too comfortable.
    The other is the U.N.

    Considering it is well documented historically as far as the Alinsky rules for radicals and the Frankfurt school and it starting the free love culture of the sixties, it is absolutely old hat.

    The west has not shown a distaste for nationalism, it has shown an apathy in dealing with socialists and Marxists, believing they only existed in Russia or East Germany.
    Education is everything, and those that have gone through a cultural Marxist education in Australia is anyone under the age of 50, maybe even sixty, although the radicalisation increases as years go closer to present.
    If you weren’t taught about your own country’s constitution at school, put yourself down as a victim, really.
    I look back now and realise just how bad mine was in the 70’s and eighties.
    Of course we are in the situation we are in now.

    We are bad and stole our wealth.
    We must be punished and hand it over to others, as they walk through our ill gotten borders and demand payment.

  2. Top Ender

    She’s baaaaaaaaack!

    (But fortunately in the Old Dart, many many thousands of kilometres away)

    And guess what? All Aussies are racists!

    Muslim activist Yassmin Abdel-Magied has written an opinion article for Teen Vogue in which she says people of colour are considered “conditionally Australian” and “the moment they step out of line, the country explodes with outrage”.

    In the piece titled “I Tried to Fight Racism by Being a Model Minority — and Then It Backfired” the engineer and writer, who recently moved to London, says she was “made an example of” and is “no longer interested in centering those who refuse to see my humanity”.

    Ms Abdel-Magied faced controversies at home this year including her Anzac Day social media post: “Lest We Forget (Manus, Nauru, Syria, Palestine …)”; claiming Islam was “the most feminist religion” on Q&A in February; and declaring Australia’s system of parliamentary democracy “doesn’t represent anyone” in June.

    She writes today that she grew up believing that “if I became the ‘model minority’ — as a hard-working, high-achieving, law-abiding brown Muslim woman” that she could make lasting positive change for herself and others.

    Arriving from Sudan at almost two, she had started a youth organisation at 16, got an engineering degree, graduated valedictorian, advised the federal government, hosted a television show, published a memoir and won Queensland Young Australian of the Year.

    “I thought if I were good enough, my example would make people see that their assumptions about Muslims and people of colour were wrong. Once they got to know me, they would change their behaviour and fix their biases, I thought,” she writes.

    “Unfortunately, the events of the past few months have taught me otherwise.”

    Writing in the US-based Teen Vogue — which made a shift last year towards political coverage and social issues — she describes Australia as having a deeply racist history.

    “There is no doubt that Australia has come a really long way since then. I am truly grateful for all the opportunities I was provided.

    “(But) History matters, because it informs the attitudes of the present society. As people of colour have systematically been treated as second-class citizens, they are considered ‘conditionally Australian’. The moment they step out of line, the country explodes with outrage.”

    She cites the Adam Goodes example, saying “this double standard has been called “brown poppy syndrome”.

    In her own case, the Anzac post — in which “my intention had been one of inclusive empathy, others took it as an insult” — led to months of reaction including front-page stories, death threats, petitions and racist posters. She had to move houses, change her phone number and shut off her social media, she writes.

    “I was being made an example of. And the reality is, none of the positive work that I did over the past 10 years mattered. All that mattered was that I was a young Muslim woman of colour who had stepped out of line.”

    Ms Abdel-Magied writes that no one should ever have to be the “model minority” in order to be accepted as equal.

    “Equality should be given, not earned for good behaviour. If ‘good behaviour’ is required, that isn’t really equality.”

    In May the ABC axed Ms Abdel-Magied’s TV program Australia Wide, but said at the time that the move was part of a larger restructure, and unrelated to the Anzac Day post.

    In August the Turnbull government did not renew her position as a board member of the Council of Australian-Arab relations.

    Last November Ms Abdel-Magied went on a taxpayer-funded tour of some of the world’s most repressive Islamic regimes to promote her book about being a Sudanese-Egyptian Australian Muslim woman who wears the hijab.

    Despite visiting locations such as Sudan, where more than 90 per cent of women undergo forced genital mutilation and forced marriage is permissible, and Saudi Arabia, where women are flogged and stoned for adultery and not permitted to drive or leave the home without wearing a sleeveless, full-body covering, Ms Abdel-Magied did not discuss the countries’ oppression of women during any of her appearances.

    Link – and comments open

  3. cynical1

    “I thought if I were good enough, my example would make people see that their assumptions about Muslims and people of colour were wrong. Once they got to know me, they would change their behaviour and fix their biases, I thought,” she writes.

    A big, self opinionated mouth will always be a problem, no matter the color, gender, looks or religion.

    Getting lots of nice perks was a further irritation.

    It appears the poms are now promoting little miss maligned.

  4. stackja

    Yassmin Abdel-Magied has achieved what?

  5. Myrddin Seren

    an opinion article for Teen Vogue

    Not landed those tasty gigs at the BBC and Grauniad, eh Yassie ?

    Awful lot of people in the Celebrity Victim stakes well ahead of you in the queue in Britain.

    She’ll be back to hoover our tax dollars again before long.

  6. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Writing in the US-based Teen Vogue — which made a shift last year towards political coverage and social issues — she describes Australia as having a deeply racist history.

    Look on the bright side, Cats. After a bucket of shyte that size, tipped over Australia, she can’t be planning on returning any time soon, surely?

  7. Bruce of Newcastle

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 14h14 hours ago
    The electric power grid in Puerto Rico is totally shot. Large numbers of generators are now on Island

    Not least because it looks like many if not all wind turbines and solar panels have been destroyed.
    Hmmm.

  8. Gab

    looks like some hardware preparatory for an S&M session.

    George Brandis called and wants to know “what time &where?”.

  9. Infidel Tiger

    Yassmin Abdel-Magied has achieved what?

    She can eat an apple through a tennis racquet.

  10. Senile Old Guy

    Following on…

    In the piece titled “I Tried to Fight Racism by Being a Model Minority — and Then It Backfired” the engineer and writer, who recently moved to London, says she was “made an example of” and is “no longer interested in centering those who refuse to see my humanity”.

    Because being a “model minority” means insulting the Australians who have taken you in by criticising their treatment of refugees on a national day of remembrance.

    In her own case, the Anzac post — in which “my intention had been one of inclusive empathy, others took it as an insult” — led to months of reaction including front-page stories, death threats, petitions and racist posters.

    Ah, yes…

    LEST. WE. FORGET…
    (Manus, Nauru, Syria, Palestine.)

    That just screams “inclusive empathy” doesn’t it?

  11. Boambee John

    srr at 1433

    What happens when two guys infiltrate Antifa, live amongst them for weeks, and take part in their deeply rooted tactics of disruption and violence?

    A couple of weeks ago, m0nty said this could not happen to conservative groups. Seems it can happen to antifa!

    m0nty

    As I said at the time, this is a standard tactic in politics. Before you condemn a group on the basis of the actions of one or two “members”, remember reality.

    Most antifa members, like you (in theory in your case) are willing to employ violence for the cause.

    Most conservatives are not (yet).

  12. Fergus

    Black bloc/Antifa (the fascists of peace)
    When we smash a window, we aim to destroy the thin veneer of legitimacy that surrounds private property rights … After N30 [30 November], many people will never see a shop window or a hammer the same way again. The potential uses of an entire cityscape have increased a thousand-fold. The number of broken windows pales in comparison to the number of spells—spells cast by a corporate hegemony to lull us into forgetfulness of all the violence committed in the name of private property rights and of all the potential of a society without them. Broken windows can be boarded and eventually replaced, but the shattering of assumptions will hopefully persist for some time to come.

    — ACME Collective, quoted in Paris (2003)[57]

  13. srr

    Facebook, as Zuckerberg and his Mutti Merkel made clear to the world, it’s the modern Stasi, on steroids –

    Hah! Hillary Clinton’s Lawyer Helped Facebook Avoid Political Ad Disclosures

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/09/hah-hillary-clintons-lawyer-helped-facebook-avoid-political-ad-disclosures/

    VIDEO: More Evidence Facebook Is Targeting Conservative News Outlets

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/09/video-evidence-facebook-targeting-conservative-news-outlets/

  14. Harlequin Decline

    Viva
    #2510397, posted on September 29, 2017 at 12:22 pm

    Interesting article, this quote in particular-

    ‘Multiculturalism only works in empires. For a democracy, it is an impossibility.’

  15. Tintarella di Luna

    Tinta thanks due to Delta A not me.

    Thanks Delta A

  16. Stimpson J. Cat

    The number of broken windows pales in comparison to the number of spells—spells cast by a corporate hegemony to lull us into forgetfulness

    F$cking Harry Potter Antifa.

    Jesus F$cking Christ.

  17. Boambee John

    Black bloc/Antifa (the fascists of peace)
    When we smash a window, we aim to destroy the thin veneer of legitimacy that surrounds private property rights

    Kristallnacht, brought to you by Nazis since the 1930s.

    Antifa are Nazis.

  18. srr

    Right Angle – Disgraceful – 09/28/17
    BillWhittleChannel

    Sep 28, 2017
    The Left has spent decades politicizing everything that unites this country. This process has created an environment where no part of American history is left untouched. Everything is plagued by cultural Marxism and the very foundation and integrity of American culture is a stake. So what allowed this disgraceful notion to take hold of the NFL? The Right Angle team dissects the cause.

  19. struth

    Multiculturalism only works in empires. For a democracy, it is an impossibility.’

    Viva, I too, take this quote as being the most prominent in the piece as well.

    Don’t get me wrong, there was a lot of good stuff in it, but he just hasn’t reconciled that Socialist is the problem in Nazi.

  20. Tintarella di Luna

    She can eat an apple through a tennis racquet.

    Yassie – the orthodontist’s nightmare – Bill didn’t miss one gap in that yammering maw

  21. Baldrick

    Muslim activist Yassmin Abdel-Magied has written an opinion article for Teen Vogue…

    Bwhahahaha, you know you’ve made it in life when you start writing for Teen Vogue.

  22. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Yassmin Abdel-Magied has achieved what?

    She can eat an apple through a tennis racquet.

    At least she wasn’t made to eat her own baby like some minorities under islamic state.

  23. srr

    Angela Merkel Dindu Nuffin
    The Thinkery
    Sep 28, 2017
    She has a clean conscience, so it’s fine.

    I lost the sources for this because I had to go grab a flight.

  24. Stimpson J. Cat

    Antifa are Nazis.

    There are no Nazis anymore.

    There are only people who admire Hugo Boss, his aesthetics, and his sense of style.

    Antifa have no style whatsoever.

  25. srr

    The ENEMY OF TRUTH Award Goes To…
    (THE SAAD TRUTH_513)
    Sep 26, 2017
    I read some excerpts from a Forbes article published a few days ago that is truly impossible to believe. Its author is an affront to human dignity.

    Link to the article in question: http://bit.ly/2hvHRMO

  26. Roger

    When we smash a window, we aim to destroy the thin veneer of legitimacy that surrounds private property rights

    Kristallnacht, brought to you by Nazis since the 1930s.

    Antifa are Nazis.

    To be fair to the Nazis (!), they preserved private property rights provided that property was directed to the purposes of the national state. Big business did quite well under the Nazis for some years and was not nationalised but remained in private hands.

    In so far as he has a coherent political philosophy, the average Antifa thug is more likely an anarchist or Trotskyite international revolutionary.

  27. Stimpson J. Cat

    Hilarious article srr.

    Best parts:

    Thanks to a carefully orchestrated campaign, the notion that universities are hostile to the free exchange of ideas is slipping into mainstream opinion. It is a phony crisis manufactured by the same people who fuel the engines of climate denial. Right wing activists and donors are fighting to undermine universities because their values cannot thrive there. Modern conservatism is failing on campus because it shrivels in an atmosphere of intelligent, open debate.

    In a rich marketplace of ideas, conservatives are failing, and they are not losing with dignity. Our phony free speech crisis is a pet theory of people triggered to sputtering outrage by a black man who fails to stand for the national anthem. Whining like pampered little snowflakes, they scramble to establish some form of “safe space,” some preserve insulated from the intellectual competition that threatens to scour from them our future political landscape.

    Is it lonely and isolating to be a Trump supporter on a college campus? Here’s a better question: Why wouldn’t it be? It is difficult to occupy an ideological position with little rational basis in a place where evidence-based intellectual persuasion is the dominant value. When you find that your ideas are unpersuasive in an atmosphere of open, fact-driven debate, the problem might be you.

    I love how the author described himself as:
    “A recovering Republican. “

  28. Marcus

    In the piece titled “I Tried to Fight Racism by Being a Model Minority — and Then It Backfired” the engineer and writer, who recently moved to London, says she was “made an example of” and is “no longer interested in centering those who refuse to see my humanity”.

    Arriving from Sudan at almost two, she had started a youth organisation at 16, got an engineering degree, graduated valedictorian, advised the federal government, hosted a television show, published a memoir and won Queensland Young Australian of the Year.

    Damn. It’s hard to know when she found the time to do any actual engineering work.

    I guess the best a person of colour can hope to achieve is to get a degree, use it as a springboard to a cushy government advisory job, use that as a springboard to becoming an ABC celebrity and then, finally, getting to trash your adopted country all around the world.

    If I’m not mistaken, Waleed Aly has an engineering degree, doesn’t he?

  29. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Damn. It’s hard to know when she found the time to do any actual engineering work.

    IIRC, didn’t she and her employer part company over the fact that they found it difficult to get her actually do any work?

  30. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    NEWS
    Former Don Dale inmate Dylan Voller arrested in Alice Springs

    The Australian
    3:26PM September 29, 2017

    Amos Aikman
    Northern correspondent
    Darwin
    @amosaikman

    Northern Territory police have confirmed that controversial former Don Dale inmate Dylan Voller was among about 10 people taken into custody following a protest in Alice Springs.

    A spokeswoman said the group had a permit to conduct the protest in one location but later moved it onto the Stuart Highway, where they began obstructing traffic and were subsequently arrested.

    In a live video posted to Facebook in the past hour, Mr Voller can be heard apologising to his family and saying he will “take it on the chin” and go back to jail.

    He says that being re-incarcerated will “only make me stronger” and then goes on to complain of shortness of breath and vomiting and demand medical attention.

    Breaking news from the Oz.

  31. Marcus

    IIRC, didn’t she and her employer part company over the fact that they found it difficult to get her actually do any work?

    Oh, I can just see it now.

    Boss: “Yasmin, can I just get you to look at these bridge blueprints?”

    YAM: “Me? Why me? Is it because I’m a Muslim?”

    Boss: “No! No! It’s just … I thought …”

    YAM: “Oh, I see! I’m a Muslim so I must know all about bridges, right? Don’t deny it, I know what you’re implying!”

    Boss: “Ok, now look here, Yasmin…”

    YAM: “Oh, what’s the matter? You don’t like a woman standing up to you? Can’t handle an empowered woman?”

    Boss: “Ok, ok, forget the bridge! Listen, Yasmin … have you ever met Julie Bishop?”

  32. Roger

    IIRC, didn’t she and her employer part company over the fact that they found it difficult to get her actually do any work?

    I think she took a year of leave without pay and then extended that for another year in order to pursue her “brand”. When asked for a third year they (BP?) weren’t obliged to and declined. Iirc, she graduated with Honours but didn’t complete the company’s training course; with Honours she could pursue a PhD and become a lecturer but I think she’d actually be unemployable as an engineer at present.

  33. H B Bear

    It’s nice they are doing things as a family now.

  34. Slayer of Memes

    So CNN is now admitting that Russia bought ads for BLM in Baltimore and Ferguson, pushing racial division, IN FAVOUR OF HILLARY..

    No wonder mOnty has disappeared up his own fundamental as his ‘WUSSIA!!’ narrative implodes and actually shows it was Hillary who was the intended beneficiary….

    The.
    Stupid.
    Fat.
    Fucking.
    Dickhead.

  35. Marcus

    So CNN is now admitting that Russia bought ads for BLM in Baltimore and Ferguson, pushing racial division, IN FAVOUR OF HILLARY..

    No wonder mOnty has disappeared up his own fundamental as his ‘WUSSIA!!’ narrative implodes and actually shows it was Hillary who was the intended beneficiary….

    No, Putin’s a master chess player who engaged in this as a false flag operation to whip up the BLM movement and muster support for Trump via the inevitable backlash. You’ll see.

  36. Snoopy

    The.
    Stupid.
    Fat.
    Fucking.
    Dickhead.
    Mugwump.

    Aka the Malmo Kid.

  37. thefrolickingmole

    Is there anyone whos actually attracted, you know, sexualy, to women left in the unityparty?
    https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/sep/29/malcolm-turnbull-looks-forward-to-macklemore-singing-gay-anthem

    Malcolm Turnbull says he is looking forward to seeing US rapper Macklemore sing his “gay anthem” at the NRL grand final this weekend, as Peter Dutton argued a song promoting the No campaign should also be played.

    The prime minister has also reminded people that Village People performed the YMCA at the 1991 NRL grand final in Sydney.

    I might remind the leader of the unityparties that when the Village people performed there was no postal survey being taken to kill marriage, skin it, then parade around in the skin demanding respect…

  38. Fisky

    So CNN is now admitting that Russia bought ads for BLM in Baltimore and Ferguson, pushing racial division, IN FAVOUR OF HILLARY..

    Oh dear! The entire Leftist narrative is imploding.

  39. C.L.

    So CNN is now admitting that Russia bought ads for BLM in Baltimore and Ferguson, pushing racial division, IN FAVOUR OF HILLARY.

    Links, please.

  40. Baldrick

    Former Don Dale inmate Dylan Voller arrested in Alice Springs

    Some footage of the peaceful protest here.
    (Delete the word ‘mobile’ in the URL if it doesn’t play)

  41. P

    I think she took a year of leave without pay and then extended that for another year in order to pursue her “brand”. When asked for a third year they (BP?) weren’t obliged to and declined.

    Shell

  42. Senile Old Guy

    From The Guardian:

    The immigration minister, Peter Dutton, weighed into the bizarre controversy surrounding Macklemore’s right to sing his hit song Same Love , which promotes same-sex marriage, at the NRL grand final.

    There is no controversy. There are just people saying it is inappropriate, given the postal vote is going on. And no one disputes Macklemore’s right to sing the song. The Guardian is making all this up.

  43. thefrolickingmole

    Monty, get back here and explain the narrative again…

    Looks like Wussian trolls were more interested in general shitstirring than pushing any one candidate.

    At least one of the targeted Facebook adverts bought by Russians during the 2016 presidential election campaign attacked the Black Lives Matter movement and specifically targeted areas where riots had taken place.

    Earlier this month Facebook admitted it probably had sold $100,000 (£74,000) worth of adverts to fake accounts operated from Russia.
    ..
    Other posts in the cache of advertising released by Facebook, from a period between June 2015 and May 2017, show the Russian adverts supported a range of right-wing causes associated with Donald Trump’s campaign, such as gun rights and claiming that American democracy was under threat from the millions of illegal immigrants from Central and South America who are currently living in the US.

    The adverts reportedly appeared at some point between late 2015 and early 2016.

    Former CIA officer and security analyst Steve Hall told CNN: “This is consistent with the overall goal of creating discord inside the body politic here in the United States, and really across the West.

    Senator Mark Warner, the highest ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, said this week that the aim of the adverts “was to sow chaos”.

    He said: “In many cases, it was more about voter suppression rather than increasing turnout.”

  44. P

    The last:

    2017 HSV GTSR W1 review

    Even the sound on the video is exciting.

  45. stackja

    C.L.
    #2510578, posted on September 29, 2017 at 4:28 pm
    So CNN is now admitting that Russia bought ads for BLM in Baltimore and Ferguson, pushing racial division, IN FAVOUR OF HILLARY.

    Links, please.

    linky 1 linky 2

  46. notafan

    It’s really great to be constantly reminded that Dylan Voller is an Aboriginal because otherwise who would know?

  47. stackja

    P
    #2510585, posted on September 29, 2017 at 4:38 pm
    The last:

    2017 HSV GTSR W1 review

    Even the sound on the video is exciting.

    Once Sydney Rugby League had a grand final, Melbourne had its grand final then Bathurst 500, Ford v GMH then cricket. Now we get what?

  48. H B Bear

    It’s really great to be constantly reminded that Dylan Voller is an Aboriginal because otherwise who would know?

    I’m guessing Centrelink and the ALS for starters.

  49. notafan

    You realise I’m judging by appearances don’t you?

    Because Centrelink etc know the same way that the rest of us do.

  50. C.L.

    The immigration minister, Peter Dutton, weighed into the bizarre controversy surrounding Macklemore’s right to sing his hit song Same Love , which promotes same-sex marriage, at the NRL grand final.

    I’ve noticed that “bizarre” is one of the top ten faking words in leftist newspapers nowadays.
    It’s meant to convey the notion that anyone who disagrees with an extreme leftist view is incomprehensibly beyond the boundaries of conventional society.
    Insofar as this is a controversy, it is not “bizarre” that people are angry about a rich American anti-semite and wacko 9/11 Troofer flying in to sing about homosexual “marriage” at a football grand final.

  51. zyconoclast

    London Church Hosts Satanic Fashion Show
    St. Andrew Holborn church in Holborn is on the northwest edge of London, and goes back at least to the year 959AD. The church is still funded through a trust of a local weapons dealer, which has been carefully funded throughout the centuries and still provides for the buildings upkeep, which survived a lightning strike in 1563, the Great Fire of London in 1666, having to be partially rebuilt in 1713, and nearly destroyed by German bombing in 1941. The iconic church was referenced in the classic novel, Oliver Twist. It is not affiliated with the Roman Catholic Church, as was reported elsewhere. In fact, one of its patrons was executed for serving a Catholic Mass in 1591. It is affiliated with the Church of England.

    But it’s ok because

    Church apologises for hosting satanic fashion show

  52. srr

    #ProudToBe | More YouTube Propaganda Rekt
    Black Pigeon Speaks

  53. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Former Don Dale inmate Dylan Voller arrested in Alice Springs

    He’s in the Oz as demanding “Justice for Elijah.” F.M.S.

  54. candy

    The Village People were not singing political songs with profane language. about advocating gay marriage

    I think they were more old fashioned, about fun, sing along tunes and entertainment.

  55. Muddy

    I might remind the leader of the unityparties that when the Village people performed there was no postal survey being taken to kill marriage, skin it, then parade around in the skin demanding respect… while straddling an enormous, pale, flaccid penis (painted in the combined ejaculate of every ‘D’ grade narci-celeb and corporate fister) that periodically shoots dugong urine representing millennia of genocide onto the faces of filthy white taxpaying scum (who have been drugged and gently chained to bollards made of barbed wire and constructed by refugees courtesy of the Australian Arts Council).

    Just another mardi-gras hardy-har, really.

  56. Nick

    I think they were more old fashioned, about fun,

    Yeah, with the boys at the YMCA

  57. Senile Old Guy

    I have seen that same patriotism this week in the United States as footballers there have dropped to one knee as a quiet act of defiance and protest during the playing of the national anthem. Predominantly black, they are marking the ongoing suffering of African Americans who are the most imprisoned and impoverished people in the land of the free.

    Naturally, this is written by Stan Grant.

  58. zyconoclast

    Why do they want to extradite the Australian ISIS bloke from Turkey?

    leave him there so he can get the full Midnight Express treatment

  59. H B Bear

    I wonder why peeps complain about unpleasant posters when present and complain when they are not?

    I wasn’t complaining about Testes absence. I was just that I used to set my watch by his first after lunch rambling after he was thrown out of the South Hedland pub and now I find I am late to appointments.

  60. Myrddin Seren

    Hi Cats – especially Climatey Cats like BoN and cohenite.

    Just want to go back to this post and link therein, because something really bothered me about FriedEggBurger’s claim:

    “In 2016, we ratified the Paris Agreement and committed to a responsible emissions reduction target of 26 to 28 per cent below 2005 levels by 2030.

    This target will see Australia’s emissions per person halve and the emissions intensity of our economy reduce by two thirds.

    I just could not understand how this could be – no society can cut energy use that much without some sort of Year Zero catastrophe.

    Some digging.

    An Environment Dept document from 2015 ( Pre the Paris Suicide Note ) shows:

    Total guesstimated emissions of C02E in 2005 of about 614 MT.
    Population about 20.4 mill
    Co2E per capita: ~30 Mt

    in 2015 estimates

    Total guesstimated emissions of C02E in 2030 of about 724 MT.
    Population about 30 mill
    Co2E per capita: ~24 Mt

    ( Takes a bit of scratching around to get population numbers ).

    Still an improbable reduction, but certainly not 50%.

    What happens post-Paris ?

    This – Australia’s 2030 climate change target

    Total guesstimated emissions of C02E in 2030 of about 441 MT. (!)
    Population about 30 mill
    Co2E per capita: ~15 Mt !!!! The F$ck ?!

    And how is this miracle supposed to occur, given the Turnbull United Party supposedly has a much more ‘reasonable’ renewballs target than the Shorten-Greens-CMFEU Loot-&-Pillage plan ?

    Scroll down to the bottom:

    Emissions Reductions Funds ( Your $$$ )

    Energy Efficiency ( Brace – must mean more $$, including you being mandated to improve house and business energy efficiency )

    Vehicle Efficiency ( Mandated fuel standards = smaller car + brace for ‘phase out of petrol/diesel by 2030’ )

    Phasing out very potent synthetic greenhouse gas ( goodbye fridges and aircon ? )

    Mystery ‘New Technology’

    This is complete and total bullsh$t.

    There is no way those sort of reductions will be met by this fanciful wish list. Given the members of the Uniparty are either corrupt or morons, I will assume everyone knows this is crap, will nonetheless continue to waste money on this at current levels and, as soon as possible, roll out much higher renewball levels, the end of the petrol/diesel vehicles and crush mining, agriculture etc – to Hit the Target.

    Liars and/or thieves all the way down.

  61. Snoopy

    a rich American anti-semite and wacko 9/11 Troofer flying in to sing about homosexual “marriage” at a football grand final.

    Just bog standard member of the US entertainment industry.

  62. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I wasn’t complaining about Testes absence. I was just that I used to set my watch by his first after lunch rambling after he was thrown out of the South Hedland pub and now I find I am late to appointments.

    It was also becoming a rite of passage – being called a “bigot” by Pest Tattern, for pointing out that some of the tales of Kimberly ” frontier massacre” he used to spruik were nothing more then “stories my Nanna told me.”

  63. zyconoclast

    Best to avoid spending money on or viewing AFL or NRL.
    Let them lose ratings and revenue.

  64. Snoopy

    Naturally, this is written by Stan Grant.

    Do you think he knows they’re not Indigenous?

  65. Snoopy

    I just could not understand how this could be – no society can cut energy use that much without some sort of Year Zero catastrophe.

    And? So? What’s your problem?

  66. Bruce of Newcastle

    Anyone seen M0nty?

    Glenn Greenwald: Yet Another ‘Major’ Russia Story Falls Apart…

    Yep not the Facechook one, another one. Even better this was attempted sliming by someone in DHS which has now been refuted by Wisconsin and Californian electoral officials.

  67. Muddy

    How long will it be, I wonder, before one of those terribly-oppressed NFL privpeople urinate on the American flag, or perhaps mime doing so, while surrounded by a tight circle of their posse?

    If I knew more about the NFL season, I’d nominate a round number, but alas, I’m blissfully ignorant.

  68. Leigh Lowe

    P

    #2510582, posted on September 29, 2017 at 4:30 pm

    I think she took a year of leave without pay and then extended that for another year in order to pursue her “brand”. When asked for a third year they (BP?) weren’t obliged to and declined.

    Shell

    When I read the original article it seemed to me that the HR SJWs were happy to keep her on the books ad infinitum, but those in operations were pointing out that ither more deserving cases had not been cut any slack on LWOP extensions.
    Also, reading between the lines, there was rising discomfort with her continuing to identify as a “Shell engineer” whilst spouting her batshit crazy musings.

  69. Snoopy

    2017 HSV GTSR W1 review

    Even the sound on the video is exciting.

    I once bought a Wheels magazine, or maybe Modern Motor, that came with a floppy 45 rpm disc with the audio, complete with driver’s commentary, of a Holden GTS 327 (or maybe 350, I forget which) running a quarter mile.

    I wish I still had it.

  70. jupes

    a rich American anti-semite and wacko 9/11 Troofer flying in to sing about homosexual “marriage” at a football grand final.

    If Tommy Raudonikis was still playing he’d come out of the change rooms and deck the homo. No one in the ’70s would put up with such depraved behaviour.

    If the crowd doesn’t at least boo this whacko out of the ground then Australia has reached its lowest point since federation.

  71. Bruce of Newcastle

    Myrddin – remember the carbon tax report which was released by Parko (iirc) with great ceremony? Which said reducing our CO2 emissions by 80% was cheap as chips?

    This is the key graph from the report.

    That 80% reduction in CO2 emissions was actually a cut of 7%. Don’t you love these people?

    The other 73% was all “abatement sourced overseas”. There was no information whatsoever about what this was, where it was to come from or why, if everyone was trying to buy the same abatement sourced from overseas there might be a shortage of abatement unicorns or whatever.

    Assume the same unicorns have been given a new coat of CO2 absorbing paint and have been wheeled out for this new edition of the same stupid policy.

    Incidentally UN carbon certificates are currently trading at 19 euro cents per tonne with a ‘strong sell’ rating. Which shows just what the world thinks of the UN selling hot air to useful idiots. 😀

  72. JC

    Honest Question. Has Musk sent anything into space yet.. successfully?

    I keep reading how he’s going to do this and that but I haven’t seen a successful launch and re-entry. Maybe a missed it.

    Elon Musk is aiming to land spaceships on Mars in 2022

  73. Senile Old Guy

    SpaceX’s achievements include the first privately funded liquid-propellant rocket to reach orbit (Falcon 1 in 2008); [9] the first privately funded company to successfully launch, orbit, and recover a spacecraft (Dragon in 2010); the first private company to send a spacecraft to the International Space Station (Dragon in 2012); [10] the first propulsive landing for an orbital rocket (Falcon 9 in 2015); and the first reuse of an orbital rocket (Falcon 9 in 2017). As of March 2017, SpaceX has since flown ten missions to the International Space Station (ISS) under a cargo resupply contract .[11] NASA also awarded SpaceX a further development contract in 2011 to develop and demonstrate a human-rated Dragon, which would be used to transport astronauts to the ISS and return them safely to Earth. [12]

    Not a bad list of achievements for Elon’s SpaceX.

  74. Mark from Melbourne

    Honest Question. Has Musk sent anything into space yet.. successfully?

    I actually am prepared to accept all of Musk’s tax hoovering simply because of the work he’s done in getting manned space back on the practical agenda. Done more in a decade than was done by all governments anywhere in probably 30 years.

  75. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Google is now busy stealing people’s content so you can get your questions answered without having to click on the owner’s link. Do no evil google, do no evil.

  76. Marcus

    I actually am prepared to accept all of Musk’s tax hoovering simply because of the work he’s done in getting manned space back on the practical agenda. Done more in a decade than was done by all governments anywhere in probably 30 years.

    Yep, and considering he’s basically doing NASA’s job for them, fair enough that SpaceX should actually get subsidised.

  77. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    I keep reading how he’s going to do this and that but I haven’t seen a successful launch and re-entry. Maybe a missed it.

    just a few.
    http://www.spacex.com/news

  78. JC

    Fair enough all. I didn’t have a handle of what he’s done in the space field.

  79. Snoopy

    Yep, and considering he’s basically doing NASA’s job for them

    NASA is too busy climate bothering for rockets and stuff.

  80. Senile Old Guy

    I am with Marcus and Mark from Melbourne. I am astonished that they can land on a sea barge.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RPGUQySBikQ

  81. Snoopy

    BTW any scifi fans out there who haven’t watched The Expanse series should give it a try. The plot line is compelling and the visuals are incredible. It’s on Netflix.

    To the someone here who put me on to it, many thanks.

  82. Stimpson J. Cat

    To the someone here who put me on to it, many thanks.

    It’s very good.
    Almost as good as the books.

  83. stackja

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2510640, posted on September 29, 2017 at 6:33 pm

    Meanwhile men doing all right.

  84. Bruce of Newcastle

    Next big milestone for SpaceX is the first attempted launch in November of the Falcon Heavy launcher, which can in theory lift up to 64 tonnes into LEO. A Falcon Heavy is actually three Falcons strapped together – all three boosters are supposed to be recoverable.

    Elon has released a blooper tape recently. Rocket bloopers are more interesting than most…

  85. jupes

    The last:

    2017 HSV GTSR W1 review

    Even the sound on the video is exciting.

    A superb car by any measure. Muscle cars could and should have been the future for Holden.

    What a shame.

  86. True Aussie

    I actually am prepared to accept all of Musk’s tax hoovering simply because of the work he’s done in getting manned space back on the practical agenda. Done more in a decade than was done by all governments anywhere in probably 30 years.

    Except that Trump is now president and with his grand thinking space exploration and colonisation was always going to happen. Musk is just a tax hoover and charlatan

  87. Marcus Classis

    Winston. Got the mail.

  88. Pete of Perth

    Arnost – now there’s a man with balls.

  89. Mike of Marion

    Senile Old Guy
    #2510642, posted on September 29, 2017 at 6:37 pm

    IIRC, he’s one-up on that now – he landed the last that went up back at the launch site

  90. Snoopy

    Government funded reef scientists make amazing discovery. No reef = no money.

    Optimism is rising among scientists that parts of the Great Barrier Reef that were severely bleached over the past two years are making a recovery.

    Scientists from the Australian Institute of Marine Science this month surveyed 14 coral reefs between Cairns and Townsville to see how they fared after being bleached.

    The institute’s Neil Cantin said they were surprised to find the coral had already started to reproduce.

  91. dopey

    Musk’s seminal fluid would fly higher than his spaceship.

  92. cynical1

    A superb car by any measure. Muscle cars could and should have been the future for Holden.

    What a shame.

    Yes, well they probably can’t run on electricity.

    And the proles who hoon around in these things will be walking.

    As will all the less equal animals.

  93. Stimpson J. Cat

    I actually am prepared to accept all of Musk’s tax hoovering

    I am not.
    The whiny parasite claimed he was bipolar.
    Then stated “Maybe not medically tho. ”
    We don’t f$cking want him.
    He should f$ck off to Mars.
    On his OWN dime.

  94. Makka

    Optimism is rising among scientists that parts of the Great Barrier Reef that were severely bleached over the past two years are making a recovery.

    I was diving the Reef for much of the 70’s off Cairns. This “discovery” was an annual event back then by the local green morons, until James Cook was established when they discovered a total “catastrophe”, which of course is recovering.

  95. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Strange, the Oz has closed comments on Yasmin Axle Magpie’s latest pearls of wisdom.

  96. Snoopy

    If only we had more female police. Because, you know, they aren’t men.

    A Sydney police sergeant has been found guilty of using her authority to avoid being randomly breath tested by a junior colleague.

    Sarah Louise Johnston, 50, refused a RBT at North Sydney on January 8, 2016.

    The court heard Johnston drank at least one schooner of beer while celebrating the new year with colleagues from North Sydney Police Station at two nearby pubs.

    Johnston was driving home to the Central Coast when she was pulled over at a RBT site on the Pacific Highway at Crows Nest.

    Officer Tugcan Sackesen told the Downing Centre District court he felt “intimidated” when Johnston said it would be a conflict of interest if he breath tested her.

  97. overburdened

    Commencing 3 solid days of driving away from a short turnaround assignment that lasted 9 weeks in one form or another. Back to the bolt hole. Pull a few worms, put out the crab trap, and back in the ocean for some quality wave time. Not planning on looking at offers until 2018. Happy days

  98. Stimpson J. Cat

    This is interesting.

    It is, but I’m tired and all I see is 25 barons and pompous jibber jabber.

    Can you please imagine for a moment that I am functionally retarded and explain what it actually means in very simple English using very small words.

  99. Snoopy

    The ABC’s Zoe Daniel is in Puerto Rico. Can someone on Twitter please let her know that Australia is hanging out for a report on how PR’s wind and solar farms are contributing to PR’s electricity supply post hurricane?

  100. Stimpson J. Cat

    Officer Tugcan Sackesen

    Tell me this a fake name to protect the innocent.
    Please.
    Jesus Christ.

  101. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Re – reading the article on Dylan Vollers getting thrown into clink, how is he able to post video from Alice Springs clink? Cops would take his mobile off him, surely?

  102. Tom

    Honest Question. Has Musk sent anything into space yet.. successfully?

    JC, you have a quaint vulnerability to very sharp conmen that, quite frankly, disqualifies you from handling other people’s money. But you also are well aquainted with the slime we should avoid, so there’s that.

  103. rickw

    An odd piece of financing still in operation for hundreds of years:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cfSIC8jwbQs

  104. Marcus Classus,
    Was the name in pencil?

  105. Eyrie

    Well a bunch of you including JC just went waaay down in my estimation. If you want to find out what SpaceX has done there is this amazing thing called the web and a wonderful invention known as a “search engine”. Dipshits.

  106. Marcus

    If only we had more female police. Because, you know, they aren’t men.

    I can’t really see how gender plays into that story, to be honest. I’m sure plenty of male coppers have pulled rank to get out of an awkward breat-test too.

    In fact, there was a pretty decent Australian movie that started out that same way (I think it was called Felony).

  107. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    NEWS
    Melbourne Islamic State fighter Neil Prakash’s apology is a ploy, says minister
    AAP
    7:54PM September 29, 2017

    A court apology by Australian Islamic State fighter Neil Prakash is a self-serving ploy that won’t be taken seriously by Australia, Victoria’s police minister says.

    The 26-year-old jihadist appeared via video link from prison in the Kilis Criminal Court in Turkey overnight, where he is being held on terror-related charges.

    The top IS recruiter was arrested trying to cross the border from Syria into Turkey on false documents in October last year and during his short court hearing, admitted calling for terror attacks in Australia.

    But the Muslim convert also said he was not “100 per cent responsible”, that IS had forced him to do it, and he was “sorry for all the trouble I have caused in the world”.

    “Can I say something … I was a new Muslim and didn’t have the knowledge so when they taught me I trusted them,” he told the court.

    “While I was (in Syria and Iraq) I learned to learn knowledge for myself and when I learned the truth I tried to leave.”

    Victoria’s Police Minister Lisa Neville reacted with contempt.

    “I would say he’s using a court strategy. I don’t think we would take that very seriously,” she told reporters on Friday.

    “Regardless, his involvement is significant enough that Australian authorities will continue to seek his extradition back here to Australia.”

    From the Oz. Why is Australia even thinking of extraditing this lowlife?

  108. struth

    The court heard Johnston drank at least one schooner of beer while celebrating the new year with colleagues from North Sydney Police Station at two nearby pubs.

    She went to two pubs and drank at least one schooner…………………………….

    Well, it’s not a false statement, but it’s still bullshit.

  109. calli

    The ABC’s Zoe Daniel is in Puerto Rico.

    Meh. What do Zoe’s children think about the crisis?

  110. calli

    I can’t really see how gender plays into that story, to be honest. I’m sure plenty of male coppers have pulled rank to get out of an awkward breat-test too.

    Lol. That typo has some delicious possibilities. 😃

  111. John Constantine

    Their true left hate space exploration, not because the money could be spent on kiddies, but because their true left cannot stand the thought that a spaceship full of astronauts could possibly escape global totalitarianism.

    For their left to be truly happy, no man anywhere in the universe can ever be free, eternal totalitarianism until the heat death of all that is.

  112. We haven’t heard from Zoe Brain for some time.
    I’d be interested in some views of the current SSM vote if anyone knows Zoe’s whereabouts.

  113. John Constantine

    The numbers of jihadis underage Hitler youth being imported straight from beheading clinics in genocidistan to Australian proles schools is the bigger concern.

    Any racist refusal to invite a teenage boy that has owned sex slaves into your house will be punished by the Australian State.

  114. struth

    There has been a few regulars missing of late.
    Dot for one.

  115. DrBeauGan

    Can you please imagine for a moment that I am functionally retarded and explain what it actually means in very simple English using very small words.

    Ok, stimpmeister.

    Some Brits have sworn an oath to the barons of England that they intend to disobey laws that are against the traditional liberties of the country, but are loyal to the country, even though their actions are illegal. They intend to run another glorious revolution. That is a reference to when the English threw out the last of the Stuarts and took on King Billy. On terms.

  116. Marcus Classis

    Winston Smith
    #2510686, posted on September 29, 2017 at 8:11 pm
    Marcus Classus,
    Was the name in pencil?

    Yes.

    The notepaper has square holes.

  117. srr

    Bill Mitchell‏Verified account @mitchellvii 6h6 hours ago

    So Mueller can’t find any Trump crimes but keeps stepping in Obama crimes because they are EVERYWHERE!
    ..
    I would not be surprised to see Team Obama indictments handed down shortly before the 2018 midterms.
    ..
    Will James Comey be the big fish to finally flip on Team Obama and is that why Mueller was chosen?

  118. srr

    James O’Keefe‏ @JamesOKeefeIII 10h10 hours ago
    More James O’Keefe Retweeted Steven Crowder

    More of this.
    We can’t rely on the mainstream media to faithfully report these issues.
    #UndercoverAntifa

    Steven CrowderVerified account @scrowder

    AND the video package is up. BLAST IT OUT AND BYPASS THE MEDIA
    https://youtu.be/RmNz2jGzsDA

  119. srr

    James O’Keefe‏ @JamesOKeefeIII Sep 24

    Once you’ve decided that it’s noble to punch Nazis, your definition of Nazi or a fascist is bound to keep expanding.
    https://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2017/09/23/why-you-shouldn-punch-nazi/sjghT8vcvVkpbJWMiOrEqN/amp.html

  120. Can anyone explain to me Sinc’s meltdown in the RMIT thread in a way that is somewhat guaranteed to not get us all banned?

  121. Arky

    struth

    #2510697, posted on September 29, 2017 at 8:29 pm

    There has been a few regulars missing of late.
    Dot for one.

    ..
    Dot is dead.
    I got sick of his shit.
    I covered him in chocolate icing and hundreds and thousands and left him on Monty’s doorstep.

  122. calli

    I miss Mater too. And Rudi and Goaters. Getting on with life I hope.

  123. Snoopy

    Ooh my head hurts. Can all this be real? Yes, Soros is there.

    CIA Director Mike Pompeo has also actively opposed the extradition of Kwok leading many to believe that Kwok functioned as a double agent for the CIA under the Clintons. Pompeo, who was a fairly independent Conservative Republican when in the House, has become a mandarin for the old boy spooks at Langley, who are anxious to bury many of the CIA’s misdeeds of the Clinton and Obama years. Kwok also had an affair with Wendi Dang when she was married to Rupert Murdoch. The beautiful and exotic Dang is known as a Mata Hari who sources say was most likely Kwok’s handler when he was working for Chinese Intelligence and Kwok was cozying up to the Clinton Political machine. He also introduced Wendi Dang to Tony Blair.

  124. overburdened

    https://www.spectator.com.au/2017/09/beaches-blood-great-white-shark/

    the stupidity is that this article has been written as a counterweight to the worlds of Leftist stupidity. Surely in a sane world it’s a no brainer to protect humans if you are a human, and where the F does ‘social’ considerations come into it unless you are directly affected by you or a loved one being tasted?
    As a nearly 50 year surfer and having surfed and dived in many places in Oz and OS, I think I can say with some confidence that I have not been bit. Doesn’t mean you don’t see them, and if they had lil fingers to feel you to identify if you’re tucker, well probs no one would get bit, so getting the balance back in favour of people seems sensible until evolution works out the conundrum.
    None of this is a biggie for me or my cohort- Hughie decides if your card is turned, but for those less engaged with the ocean the need for a sense of safety is strong. Rather than frothing over the constant insults to common sense of the lefty/ ‘conservationist’/ people hating fracknuckles re this and so many other issues, I would like to relate my requesting of a viking funeral if I happen to fall on land. I offered to an associate that he could stick me on a pile of pallets and combustible floaty organic stuff laced with kero, tow me out as the sun rose and light me up, and in return I’d bung on a couple of kegs and a lamb on a spit. His immediate response was, ‘what if you get washed back in?’

  125. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I miss Mater too. And Rudi and Goaters. Getting on with life I hope.

    Mater was always good value. It made me laugh when Grogarly was laying down the law on matters military, and Mater ate his lunch for him.

  126. Makka

    Mater was always good value

    Yes. His comments during and after the Lindt Cafe siege were very insightful.

  127. Andrew

    YAM expresses opinion repulsive to the majority AND in DIRECT contravention of the interests of her employer, the Oz govt. negative covfefe results. She is backed up by national broadcaster, meeja (print and TV) and politicians.

    A666 expresses a view consistent with Oz law and gets head butted in the street. He is white and male.

  128. There has been a few regulars missing of late.

    To quote my late brothers last words;

    “i’m not dead yet”

    Yes they actually were his last words.

  129. Mark from Melbourne

    Can anyone explain to me Sinc’s meltdown in the RMIT thread in a way that is somewhat guaranteed to not get us all banned?

    No.

  130. Stimpson J. Cat

    Can anyone explain to me Sinc’s meltdown in the RMIT thread in a way that is somewhat guaranteed to not get us all banned?

    Essendon are not playing tomorrow.

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!

  131. Snoopy

    The 100 day contract was signed today?

    What.
    A.
    Fucking.
    Con.

    Tesla boss Elon Musk has held a party in South Australia’s mid-north to mark the halfway point of construction of the world’s most powerful lithium ion battery.

    A grid connection agreement for the 100 megawatt battery array was signed by transmission company Electranet on Friday afternoon, sparking the start of a 100 day deadline for Tesla to complete construction of the battery or build it for free.

  132. Marcus Classis

    Winston, I will write back.

  133. Geriatric Mayfly

    also had an affair with Wendi Dang when she was married to Rupert Murdoch.

    Didn’t Clive in one of his outbursts describe Lupert’s missus as a spy?

  134. Empire GTHO Phase III

    Can anyone explain to me Sinc’s meltdown in the RMIT thread in a way that is somewhat guaranteed to not get us all banned?

    Sure. When a guest takes a leak in the kitchen sink, one is entitled to ark up.

  135. Siltstone

    Where is Dot? Is he with Wally?

  136. Arky

    Sure. When a guest takes a leak in the kitchen sink, one is entitled to ark up.

    ..
    That’s why I never get invited back anywhere.
    So many things suddenly make sense.

  137. jupes

    Melbourne Islamic State fighter Neil Prakash’s apology is a ploy, says minister

    Oh dear.

    Now it is official that the terrorist arsehole will get off. My crystal ball tells me he will return to Australia, be charged with some lame ‘terrorist’ offence and be sentenced to, oh I don’t know … ten years, of which he will serve five at most.

    Until Australia re-introduces the death penalty for any terrorist offence, Muslim terrorists will continue to come back and kill Australians.

  138. Mark A

    Empire GTHO Phase III
    #2510727, posted on September 29, 2017 at 9:09 pm

    Can anyone explain to me Sinc’s meltdown in the RMIT thread in a way that is somewhat guaranteed to not get us all banned?

    Sure. When a guest takes a leak in the kitchen sink, one is entitled to ark up.

    On all but one reply he was right to take offense.
    How can you run a commercial operation when the gov. dictates the terms?

  139. Arky

    Adam

    #2510705, posted on September 29, 2017 at 8:42 pm

    Can anyone explain to me Sinc’s meltdown in the RMIT thread in a way that is somewhat guaranteed to not get us all banned?

    ..
    Pretty simple.
    The post was describing something good done by his school at RMIT that received international attention.
    The threaders underneath clogged it up with snippy bullshit.
    It is bad enough getting a kicking for doing something wrong.
    It really irks when you get one for something good you did that took time and effort.

  140. Makka

    In the movie Tinker Tailor they made Peter Bloody Guillaume a fkn gay! And Le Carre approved it. FmFD

  141. Muddy

    So an RMIT economics lecturer, Malcanoe Trumble, and an Irishman walk into a bar …

  142. Stimpson J. Cat

    Sure. When a guest takes a leak in the kitchen sink, one is entitled to ark up.

    I am sensing more backstory to this saga than an episode of the Bold and the Beautiful.

  143. Arky

    I have to say that in my experience you hardly ever get punished for doing the wrong thing.
    90% of the time no one even notices.
    When you really get a hiding is after you put a tonne of work into achieving something positive.
    People really don’t like that at all.

  144. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Where is Dot? Is he with Wally?

    He has been integrated and diversified.

  145. Muddy

    … That’s all I’ve got.
    I don’t even know what a Malcanoe Trumble is. Or what it does.
    It could be an exotic vegetable.

  146. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Somebody on the old thread mentioned the fate of the French P.O.W’s captured at Dien Bien Phu.

    Of an estimated 10,800 French soldiers taken prisoner, at Dien Bien Phu, including 3,500 wounded, only 3290 were returned FOUR MONTHS later : 7,573 – about 70% died in captivity.

    “A War of Logistics” Charles R Schrader – recommended reading for Cats with an interest in matters military.

  147. I am sensing more backstory to this saga than an episode of the Bold and the Beautiful.

    Yep.

  148. Nick

    Yep Arky,’no good deed goes unpunished’

  149. Muddy

    Weird moment. I don’t believe in God, but I’m looking at my dog beside me, draping herself over the edge of a comfortable chair, asleep. I hear her breathing and see her ribs rise up and down, and think to myself ‘What or who made something so amazing?’

  150. Gab

    Can anyone explain to me Sinc’s meltdown in the RMIT thread in a way that is somewhat guaranteed to not get us all banned?

    He doesn’t suffer fools gladly. I don’t blame him.

    Haven’t see the Doomlord this geed up since he last wore his kilt over his mankini.

  151. Muddy

    An interesting statistic there, thanks Zulu. I’d imagine that very few would have even heard of Dien Bien Phu now, let alone be aware of its significance. Apparently the Viet Minh were ‘this close’ to collapse as well.

  152. Weird moment. I don’t believe in God, but I’m looking at my dog beside me, draping herself over the edge of a comfortable chair, asleep. I hear her breathing and see her ribs rise up and down, and think to myself ‘What or who made something so amazing?’

    I get the same feeling looking at hawt chicks, but hey man, whatever floats your boat.

  153. jupes

    I acknowledge that Anzac Day is Australia’s day of the year. It is the day that demands the most respect as well as being a great day for getting on the wallop with mates. Good times.

    Nevertheless more often than not, I enjoy another day more. No prizes for guessing that it’s AFL Grand Final Day. I support West Coast so I have no dog in this fight, yet I love the romance of what will occur tomorrow. Adelaide haven’t won for 19 years. Richmond haven’t won for 37 years.

    It will be a great story whoever wins. I will watch it with an Adelaide supporter so naturally I am barracking for the Tigers and have put money on to enhance the experience.

    Go Dusty! I have a lazy $50 that you will win the Norm Smith.

  154. srr

    abuse of posters has always been frowned upon.

    😆

  155. struth

    Pretty simple.

    The post was describing something good done by his school at RMIT that received international attention.
    The threaders underneath clogged it up with snippy bullshit.
    It is bad enough getting a kicking for doing something wrong.
    It really irks when you get one for something good you did that took time and effort.

    Really?

    He’s having a bad night.
    A commenter made an observation that despite them doing well, nobody is going to heed advice that’s not left wing amongst our elites.
    That got Sinc’s back up and he went off.

    Sinc has every right to do and say what he did, as it’s his thread.
    To me, he even has the right to say it even if it wasn’t.
    I’m fairly thick skinned, so I didn’t take it seriously.
    Maybe I should have, but it was funny.
    He’s just venting, as I see it.

    Anyway, excuse me for a few years, I must fuck off and die.

  156. jupes

    Of an estimated 10,800 French soldiers taken prisoner, at Dien Bien Phu, including 3,500 wounded, only 3290 were returned FOUR MONTHS later : 7,573 – about 70% died in captivity.

    That’s nothing.

    Apparently an Australian soldier cut the hands off a dead Talib.

  157. A commenter made an observation that despite them doing well, nobody is going to heed advice that’s not left wing amongst our elites.

    That’s how I read it as well. On the face of it I don’t understand how this is “pissing in someone’s sink”. Which means there must be a back story.

  158. Arky

    , I must fuck off and die.

    ..
    Do you want me to get the chocolate icing and sprinkles, or does a gnawimg death by Monty revolt you?

  159. Gab

    Pretty simple.
    The post was describing something good done by his school at RMIT that received international attention.
    The threaders underneath clogged it up with snippy bullshit.
    It is bad enough getting a kicking for doing something wrong.
    It really irks when you get one for something good you did that took time and effort.

    Yep. Spot on and well summed up, Arky.

  160. struth

    Do you want me to get the chocolate icing and sprinkles, or does a gnawimg death by Monty revolt you?

    Will you stop asking me questions, I’m trying to poor this overproof stuff down my throat.

    The cremation will be my last laugh.

  161. Mark A

    Totally OT and I apologise, Ever Wondered Why Public Toilet Seats Are Usually U-Shaped?

    I never did but it’s interesting if true.

  162. jupes

    In the movie Tinker Tailor they made Peter Bloody Guillaume a fkn gay! And Le Carre approved it. FmFD

    Le Carre wrote some good spy books back in the day. His best was The Little Drummer Girl. Everything after that has been pretty much crap.

  163. Stimpson J. Cat

    The economics soapie I am making shall be called “The Demand and the Stimulus”.
    Just imagine the Catallaxy cast….

    The lovable mentally ill character role is mine obviously.

    F$ck we need more hot chicks.
    Too many d$cks on the dance floor.

  164. areff

    Le Carre wrote some good spy books back in the day. His best was The Little Drummer Girl A Perfect Spy.

    Fixed

  165. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Apparently an Australian soldier cut the hands off a dead Talib.

    Still not a patch on what the British did in Malaya.

  166. Stimpson J. Cat

    Anyway, excuse me for a few years, I must fuck off and die.

    You know I am certain that somewhere in the world is a person named “Off” who is very popular with everyone.
    Just imagine it.

  167. Muddy

    struth.
    I enjoy reading your comments. Make sure you are reincarnated.

  168. Top Ender

    124 comments under the Dylan Voller story on the Oz.

    Not one in support.

  169. sdfc

    It will be a great story whoever wins.

    It’ll be a shit story whoever wins.

  170. jupes

    His best was The Little Drummer Girl A Perfect Spy.

    You think so? I was a lot younger when I read both so I am only going on recollections here.

    To me The Little Drummer Girl was about patriotism while A Perfect Spy was a personal story.

    I am a patriot.

  171. sdfc

    It’ll be more shit if it’s Adelaide.

  172. Makka

    Tinker Tailor and Smiley’s People were his best for mine of Le Carre’s works. A small gap then to The Spy Who Came In From the Cold.

    BUT, he cucked it by allowing the movie which he screenplayed to portray Guillaume as a queer. FFS, in Smiley’s People by his very own hand Guillaume was married with a pregnant wife. Gayism buggers another good thing!

  173. srr

    Paul Joseph Watson‏Verified account @PrisonPlanet 11h11 hours ago

    Trumps claims Facebook colluded with Hillary.

    Media laughs.

    2 days later, Trump proven right. Again.
    ………………………………..

  174. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    124 comments under the Dylan Voller story on the Oz.

    Wasn’t he the charming little thug who bashed a Salvation Army officer, with a fire extinguisher, to the point where said officer was blinded in one eye? That’s why he was in the ‘naughty chair” with a spit hood.

  175. Arky

    Which one is the Le Carre story that ends with the bird getting shot on the Berlin wall?

  176. DrBeauGan

    Turning Guillaume into a poof totally wrecks his latest book which centres on a love affair between Guillaume and Tulip, who is female.

  177. srr

    Julian Assange 🔹‏ @JulianAssange 12h12 hours ago

    Podesta emails reveal that Facebook COO Sheryl Sandbergwanted Hillary Clinton to win “badly”, provided research to her in March 2015 and met privately with her on multiple occasions. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/

    https://twitter.com/JulianAssange/status/913552409741479936

  178. jupes

    It’ll be more shit if it’s Adelaide.

    Yeah nah. Stop being a grouch.

    Adelaide are clearly the best team this year and deserve to win it. That being said, I am a romantic and would love to see Richmond get up.

    Regardless, I’m excited.

  179. Arky,

    The spy who came in from the cold.

  180. jupes

    Which one is the Le Carre story that ends with the bird getting shot on the Berlin wall?

    The Spy Who Came In From The Cold.

  181. Makka

    Which one is the Le Carre story that ends with the bird getting shot on the Berlin wall?

    The Spy Who Came In From The Cold.

    Remus was the spy , if I recall.

  182. sdfc

    Is that because they’ve got a West Coast coach Jupes?

    I hate SA football even more than I hate the Vics. If a Richmond premiership is the price I have to pay, so be it.

  183. Le Carre wrote some good spy books back in the day. His best was The Little Drummer Girl. Everything after that has been pretty much crap.

    I am a huge fan of Le Carre but all of his stuff before 1990. After that he went to complete shit. The tailor of Panama was excruciating in its awfulness.

    His memoir which came out last year was a damn fine read, however.

  184. sdfc

    And yes GF day is the best day of the year.

  185. Richmond will win. It’s all scripted, just like the awful Bulldogs last year.

  186. srr

    Delta A
    #2510498, posted on September 29, 2017 at 2:19 pm

    I posted the link at 11.19 am (via yahoo.) Her mutilated face is shown clearly there.

    https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/37276591/yes-campaigner-filmed-hurling-racial-abuse-at-no-voter/

    Thank you.

    Has she been charged with theft yet?

  187. sdfc

    That’s an interesting theory Adam. Tell us more.

  188. Makka

    By far the worst thing about Macadamia singing his ode to poofters at the NRL GF is that I really can’t call it the GayFL no more.

  189. jupes

    Is that because they’ve got a West Coast coach Jupes?

    Mate, I’m going for the Tigers this year.

    That being said Don Pyke is a champion. I love him (as a two time Eagles premiership player) and wouldn’t be too upset if Adelaide get up. But more than that I love his dad.

    Dr Frank Pyke fixed Dennis Lillee’s back and the rest is history.

  190. sdfc

    Mate, I’m going for the Tigers this year.

    Maybe I don’t read proper.

    Frank Pyke was apparently a gun footballer in his own right.

  191. That’s an interesting theory Adam. Tell us more.

    Well, my reasoning is that Le Carre ran out of ideas and believed his own bullshit.

  192. chrisl

    On the way home from the (boring) parade (attendance 150000) there were two rainbows. At least one of them for the tigers.
    It may be raining…..

  193. Of an estimated 10,800 French soldiers taken prisoner, at Dien Bien Phu, including 3,500 wounded, only 3290 were returned FOUR MONTHS later : 7,573 – about 70% died in captivity.

    The Dien Bien Phu P.O.W.s included somebody famous (rather, who later became famous).
    For the life of me I can’t recall who, but whoever it was they were discussed on the Cat sometime in the past year or two.

  194. sdfc

    I was referring to your theory that the AFL is scripted Adam.

  195. srr

    notafan
    #2510502, posted on September 29, 2017 at 2:28 pm

    So you can’t post a link because?

    Because you scream blue murder every time I even mention Facebook you damn hypocrite?

    PS if you want to know go look for yourself as #Iamnotyourmother

    Bullshit.

    Funny as fuck bullshit, actually.

    You do whatever the fuck you want, to whoever the fuck you want, whenever the fuck you want, and cry victim while you do it because you know that only those you lie about will call you on your bullshit and all the other narrative CONtrollers will rush to kick who you’re pointing and screeching at, in the head for you.

    And it’s funny cos you/you lot have CONvinced yourselves no one else notices that tired old ploy, while posters disappear by the truckload, just as warned they would after you and your fellow Mean Grrlz worked your black fucking magic here, just as you did everywhere else we have crossed swords over many years.

  196. rickw

    Starret tools factory tour (Arky you will love this!):

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T7JqXbm-Nwo

  197. Rafe

    On Vietnam, someone might like to post up the number of Sth Vietnamese murdered by the communists in the course of liberating them, then the number killed and imprisoned and the number who fled the country after the liberation.
    Makes you wonder why the lefties think we bothered to liberate west Europe and then try to hold the line in the Cold War.

  198. srr

    Has Facebook become the new catholic church, that must never be questioned by anyone, except of course by the most devoted of Facebookers who also have the magical power to question Facebook cos they’re even more Stasi than Mutti Merkel and Facebookier-than-Zuckerberg ….. and does this mean that the Alphabet Google people are now seen as irredeemably beyond the great defence they used to get and have been simply declared the winners of Evil over Good?

  199. Arky

    Starret tools factory tour (Arky you will love this!):

    ..
    Spark erosion machines Rick.
    We had one of those at Aluminium Extrusions factory in Huntingdale. Gone now, that factory.
    Used it to put the relief into aluminium extrusion dies.

  200. srr

    🙂 “Everything Changes After This!” 😉

    YourVoice™ America (9/28) “Everything Changes After This!”
    Bill Mitchell

  201. Arky

    I wonder if you could spark erode rifle barrels.
    I suspect you could.
    Take a long time though.

  202. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    124 comments under the Dylan Voller story on the Oz.

    I don’t know much about the prison system in the Territory, but if Dylan Vollers finishes up in an adult prison, he’ll be playing with the big boys there ? He may be a big noise in juvenile, but he’ll be well out of his depth in an adult prison?

  203. srr

    CNN FINALLY PROVES RUSSIAN ‘COLLUSION’… WITH BLACK LIVES MATTER

    Nolte: CNN Reports Russian Facebook Ads Promoted Black Lives Matter

    At long last, we appear to finally have some proof that the Russians interfered in American democracy. Before some of you get too excited, there is still zero proof of any collusion between the Russians and the Trump campaign. There is still zero proof the Russians in any way “hacked the 2016 election.” There is still zero proof the Russians changed a single vote in 2016.

    According to CNN, though, what we do have proof of is that in late 2015 and early 2016, the Russians used Facebook ads to promote Black Lives Matter.

    Moreover, the report also says that the Russians’ overall goal in Ferguson and Baltimore was pretty much the same as CNN’s overall goal in Ferguson and Baltimore — to stir up division and chaos.

    Here is CNN’s own Wednesday night report (emphasis added):

    At least one of the Facebook ads bought by Russians during the 2016 presidential campaign referenced Black Lives Matter and was specifically targeted to reach audiences in Ferguson, Missouri and Baltimore, sources with knowledge of the ads told CNN.

    The Black Lives Matter ad appeared on Facebook at some point in late 2015 or early 2016, the sources said. The sources said it appears the ad was meant to appear both as supporting Black Lives Matter but also could be seen as portraying the group as threatening to some residents of Baltimore and Ferguson.

    New descriptions of the Russian-bought ads shared with CNN suggest that the apparent goal of the Russian buyers was to amplify political discord and fuel an atmosphere of incivility and chaos, though not necessarily to promote one candidate or cause over another. Facebook’s review of Russian efforts on its platform focused on a timeframe from June 2015 to May 2017.

    It is rather cute how CNN dances around the inconvenient idea that the Russian ads promoted Black Lives Matter, but, you know, not really-really promoted because some might-could-maybe-possibly-perhaps read them another way.

    Nevertheless, even CNN cannot dance around the bottom line, the fact that the Red Menace’s goal in Ferguson and Baltimore, to Russian campaign to “amplify political discord … fuel … incivility and chaos” aligns perfectly with — surprise, surprise — the American left!

    Sowing “chaos” and “discord” in those two cities was the exact same goal pursued by Democrats, Black Lives Matter, the national media, and, most especially, CNN.

    That goal is seen in CNN’s objectively appalling behavior in Baltimore and Ferguson and the left-wing network’s relentless campaign to whip up violence, hatred against law enforcement, racial animosity, and intentional provocations. CNN contributors spread lies, openly calling for increased rioting while on the air – which must have had the Russians standing and cheering.

    Here we are, though, more than a year into the Russian collusion “scandal,” and all we know so far is that Red Peril is guilty of doing what it has been doing in the United States for more than a hundred years — aligning with the American left to foment chaos.
    ___
    For the many more links within –
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2017/09/28/nolte-cnn-reports-russian-facebook-ads-promoted-black-lives-matter/

  204. srr

    😆

    CNN Finally Discovers ‘Proof’ of Russia Connection 😂
    Mark Dice

    Sep 29, 2017
    CNN finally discovers proof of their long sought after Russian connection! And you gotta see what it is! hahaha!…

  205. mizaris

    Weird moment. I don’t believe in God, but I’m looking at my dog beside me, draping herself over the edge of a comfortable chair, asleep. I hear her breathing and see her ribs rise up and down, and think to myself ‘What or who made something so amazing?’

    I do believe in God Muddy, and when I look at the wonders that he created I am blown away. I spend a lot of time out of cities in what is politely called the “outback”. I never cease to be amazed at the beauty and logic of what I see and experience. The more I see of the intricacies of “nature” the more I believe in Creation by God. FFS how does a stromatolite become a hummingbird via evolution? Look at the bones of the ear – evolution? The complexity of the eye? The superlative delicacy and strength of the brain?
    The only conundrum is why the playground is placed so close to the sewerage works….in every mammal. Who says God doesn’t have a sense of humour?

  206. OneWorldGovernment

    mizaris
    #2510814, posted on September 29, 2017 at 11:13 pm

    The only conundrum is why the playground is placed so close to the sewerage works….in every mammal.

    Not really because the end result of playing requires a downward movement or an expelling.

    Put it this way, where would you put the playground?

  207. Top Ender

    I offered to an associate that he could stick me on a pile of pallets and combustible floaty organic stuff laced with kero, tow me out as the sun rose and light me up, and in return I’d bung on a couple of kegs and a lamb on a spit. His immediate response was, ‘what if you get washed back in?’

    Mine would have been: “A crate of Scotch and two lambs.”

  208. max

    Really enjoyed The Russia Houseyears ago but it was a failure as a film.

    Richard Burton was great in The Spy Who Came in From the Cold.

    In one part he had to go undercover as a librarian and was really hitting the piss during lonely nights in a cold, empty flat. There was a beautiful moment where he was wearing his moth eaten librarian’s cardigan and up a ladder reshelving books, and somebody below said something which caused him to snap. He snarled down at them and the camera closed in on his puffy, alcoholic, sensitive old face screwed up in rage.

    I’ve forgotten nearly everything else about the film except that moment.

  209. OneWorldGovernment

    I’ve noticed a number of USA articles pushing back against the BLM rhetoric and providing actual statistics that are conveniently ignored by the MSM.

    This one at American Thinker probably encapsulates the whole argument the best.
    Blacks, Crime, and the Bended Knee

    I wonder how the stas turn out in Australia?

  210. Top Ender

    I never cease to be amazed at the beauty and logic of what I see and experience. The more I see of the intricacies of “nature” the more I believe in Creation by God.

    Fair comment. Have thought the same scuba-diving.

    My problem is I want him/her to come down and give us a hand.

    I have tried to rationalise it as being rather like Cook’s landing here 200+ years ago.

    The god alights, does good things worth emulating, but then departs. Please come back and give us a hand.

  211. Arky

    Please come back and give us a hand.

    ..
    If you were a god would you want your creation constantly needing intervention, or would you want it to grow the fuck up and do the necessary work to thrive on its own?

  212. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I have tried to rationalise it as being rather like Cook’s landing here 200+ years ago.

    In the words of the great Australian historian, Geoffrey Blainey “Two cultures came face to face with each other. One had never discovered how to boil water, the other had just invented the steam engine.”

  213. Stimpson J. Cat

    Please come back and give us a hand.

    It must really really really f$cking annoy all you sane people that the vast majority of us crazies can talk to,
    see, and hear god/s, and you lot can’t.
    It’s almost enough to drive you poor people insane.

    😁

  214. OneWorldGovernment

    Top Ender
    #2510822, posted on September 29, 2017 at 11:36 pm

    My problem is I want him/her to come down and give us a hand.

    I have tried to rationalise it as being rather like Cook’s landing here 200+ years ago.

    The god alights, does good things worth emulating, but then departs. Please come back and give us a hand.

    TE

    The Cargo Cultists want that.

    We are on our own.

    It has been given to us to be and make the best as we can.

  215. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Number Two “stepdaughter” – if I was married to her mother, which I’m not – has announced her intention of staying with us, for a couple of days. Her private life is somewhat turbulent. I am retreating into my library, with a decanter of good Scotch, and the menu from the local takeaway. There will be “secret Women’s business” to be discussed. Night, all.

  216. OneWorldGovernment

    new tread ——>

  217. calli

    I am in Hoi An. It is full of Australians being *rseholes. I have scuttled back to my hotel room in shame.

    Now a group of morons are singing in the stairwell.

    Hopefully my handfull of USD for some bespoke shirts has atoned a little.

  218. Motelier

    Oi!

    New fred, just for the weekend. Over there ➡️

  219. Mark A

    calli
    #2510838, posted on September 30, 2017 at 12:22 am

    I am in Hoi An. It is full of Australians being *rseholes. I have scuttled back to my hotel room in shame.

    Strange that, I hardly ever encounter Australians in my travels in the EU.
    Maybe I’m missing the right spots?
    Exclude the UK, have no business interests there.

  220. srr

    Donald Trump Announces Big Presidential Trip to Asia

    President Donald Trump together with First Lady Melania Trump plans to visit Asia in November.

    The president will travel to Japan, South Korea, China, Vietnam, the Philippines, and Hawaii on state visits as well as attend the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit and the Association of Southeast Asian Nations.

    Trump’s decision to visit Asia comes at a pivotal moment in the region, faced with threats from North Korea and repeated economic challenges from China.

    “President Trump will discuss the importance of a free and open Indo-Pacific region to America’s prosperity and security,” the statement from the White House read.

    Trump will also focus on trade in the region, according to the White House, after withdrawing the United States from the Trans-pacific partnership trade deal.

    “He will also emphasize the importance of fair and reciprocal economic ties with America’s trade partners,” the statement read.

    The trip will take place November 3-14.
    ___________________________

    hee hee …. Wonder if Team Turnbull will a Macron and shove themselves into the picture

  221. srr

    “lol” …

    JohnWickofPolitics‏ @Gingrich_of_PA 2h2 hours ago

    But I’m sure FB will be judicious and fair when the Zuckster runs for Prez 🙄

    Americans blame Facebook for fake news, new poll finds

    WASHINGTON — The public has a tough message for Facebook: The social-media giant needs to stop fake news — especially when it’s funded by Russia.

    https://twitter.com/Gingrich_of_PA/status/913755828641046528
    ___________

    😆 … because, I am NOT on Facebook! I HATE Facebook!

    Unlike some who are forever promoting Facebook … ‘Oh look, here’s something you normal people will agree with, it’s over at Facebook. Go over there with the millions of others who don’t agree with you and will soon teach you what it’s like to be unpersoned, and doxxed, and fired, and made unemployable and will CONvince you that unless you stop being normal and become a Zucker, your life will be over …’
    👿

  222. srr

    The Actual Cost of Illegal Immigration, 1812
    The Still Report
    Sep 28, 2017
    Good morning, I’m still reporting on: The Actual Cost of Illegal Immigration, 1812

    Synopsis: There are finally reliable numbers on the cost of illegal immigration, and it is staggering – $135 billion per year.
    How much is that?
    Remember several years ago when President Obama killed the manned space program – a program that cost the government a mighty $4 billion per year?
    So, simply put, 33 NASA manned space programs.
    Tucker Carlson took this issue on this evening in a segment that everyone should see.
    [insert]

  223. srr

    LIVE: President Donald Trump HUGE Speech to National Association of Manufacturers 9/29/17
    Right Side Broadcasting Network

  224. notafan

    Good to see my point was proven.

    Again and again and again and again.

  225. Rabz

    Lawson was never a legend, except in his own lunchtime, FFS

  226. min

    Insiders carrying on ABC ‘s Abbott Derangement Syndrome as usual . They had a go at everything including in the cartoon section. How ignorant are they laughing at the need for coal fired power to make stuff for space programme . Will some cartoonist draw a space programme using solar panels to fuel it or turbines to make the rockets Please?

  227. Tailgunner

    Queensland Storm tonight in the Vote Yes, Bigots! NRL GF.
    29 points.

  228. Tailgunner

    upes
    #2509654, posted on September 28, 2017 at 1:45 pm
    Yes! On the ground for the bounce!

    Are you an umpire Tailgunner?

    Lol! Caught you on the scroll back, Jupes!
    What gives you that impression?
    I’d make a great “Bad Lieutenant ” umpire though. Hmm.. food for thought…

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