Open Forum: September 30, 2017

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  1. Body shaming the Controllers (itself a white supremacist title evoking memories of slavery) aside, where are their body dysmorphic characters undergoing transition?

    Thomas the Tank Engine 2019

    Caitlyn the Wind-powered Engine was stuck in the sheds waiting for the wind to blow, wondering whether she was Arthur or Martha, or indeed even a she, or a he she, or a she he.

    Shunned by the other cars for being unavailable during morning peak hour, she was earlier that day shunted unceremoniously back into the sheds. She was previously fuming at the blatant discrimination against her for being only wind-abled and their obvious ablist supremacist views and fossil fuel privilege.

    But then her thoughts turned to sadness, for her part in the historical connecting of India by rail, and her own privilege in being built as a rail engine, albeit one that rarely worked, and even when she did, not very well. Her thoughts very briefly turned to her glorious presentation to the world as the world’s first wind powered rail engine to save the planet by mostly not doing anything, but then it quickly turned to the ignominy of being raped by the patriarchy in the form of graffiti by privileged white males of low socio-economic background. However it was ultimately a necessary cost of bearing train privilege for the evils of her forebears in delivering India into the modern world.

    Then up ahead, the Thin Controller appeared, the very symbol of white patriarchal oppression of all train people, and Caitlyn went colourless-hot with rage. He was rubbing his oppression of train people into her face by lighting up a cigarette, in clear contravention of smoking by-law 7,366, subsection 83b, by smoking within 84.7 cm of a rail line.

    Seething with anger, she summoned her remaining energy along with a slight breeze to move slowly towards the Thin Controller, him oblivious to her slow approach. She knew it would take a couple of minutes for him to finish the cigarette, sufficient time to cover the 60 metres of track.

    Lost in thought, the Thin Controller did not notice Caitlyn’s approach until it was too late. Turning in response to a looming shadow, his eyes bulged in abject fear, knowing in an instant that it was too late to escape his fate.

    It was done. The white patriarchal ablist oppression was smote. Train people everywhere were now free of the tyranny of not crashing into each other.

    Now her thoughts turned to the problem of oppression of developing countries by Train people and their tyranny of poor people by providing them with the tyranny of choice, no longer stuck in the locales of their birth. How would she now destroy herself and her fellow oppressors?

    “I think I can, I think I can…”

  2. struth

    The explanation of how we see magenta, a colour not in the spectrum, was nicely done. Now get him to explain how we see brown. Then he can explain silver and gold, and how they are different from grey and yellow.

    Your green blue or red receptors respond differently.
    If you see a more reddy purple than a bluey one, your red receptor has bullied your blue receptor.

    If you see spots, stop holding your breath, or you will see brown.

  3. Tel

    Thanks Fairfax. Great to see you supporting children as they grow up.

    Boys who don’t laugh along could become psychopaths.

    The “Progressives” only understand power and obedience. It might be an oversimplification, but it sure fits the available observations pretty darn well.

  4. Tom

    Presidents Cup is a joke. Looks like a good idea on paper – complete dud in reality. The UN of golf.

    Jordan Spieth and fatboy Patrick Reed came up with a novel concept when they were paired together today, Humphrey: they were competing against each other to see how many points each could claim credit for, while the internationals were still struggling with primitive concepts like hitting fairways and greens. Fantastic mindset.

  5. candy

    Julie Bishop can do no wrong because she is best friends with M. Turnbull, who is loved by the media elite, and encourage him and want him to succeed. Any because he loves the gay stuff.

    Really I think it’s why she changed sides from Abbott to Turnbull. With Mr Turnbull, she is free to roam the world, mix at parties with George Clooney, go to the grandfinal on taxpayers’ dime, and not be harassed by the media. It’s the social scene and glamor she loves. As far as being FM, I don’t think Australians are any wiser about the intricacies of China or North Korea, Ukraine, or anywhere. You look to the FM to explain things, but she doesn’t. In fact, who can remember anything she says, she does not enlighten.

  6. Boambee John

    TheirABC has paid her for this drivel, which merits a C for a first year undergraduate.

    You are far too kind to her johanna.

  7. Geriatric Mayfly

    In fact, who can remember anything she says, she does not enlighten.

    The Performing Stick Insect arranges a Dorothy Dixer when the mood takes her, gets up on her hind arthropeds, rattles on for the allotted time and then retires back to her pink phone. A nation yawns.

  8. I’d be having some of that 5/2.

    I backed the Cowboys last week at a very juicy $3.00. At these odds, there must be some nervous Storm backers.

  9. DrBeauGan

    TheirABC has paid her for this drivel, which merits a C for a first year undergraduate.

    You are far too kind to her johanna.

    Yes. And she’s going for a PhD in bullshit.

    If these idiots had an education they’d have found out that they are stupid, but their teachers haven’t let them find out for fear of damaging their self-esteem.

  10. cohenite

    Boambee John

    #2511514, posted on October 1, 2017 at 9:03 am

    TheirABC has paid her for this drivel, which merits a C for a first year undergraduate.

    You are far too kind to her johanna.

    Indeed; our kath’s pedigree is as classic leftie as you can get:

    https://theconversation.com/profiles/kath-kenny-279525

  11. Tel

    My ancestors only arrived in 1835 so what right do I have to claim to identify with OZ?

    There’s that “blood and soil” coming back again. Remarkably popular given as how you aren’t allowed to talk about it.

  12. Baldrick

    On second thoughts we’d hate to be seen as homophobic :

    Based on the standard conditions of entry for all major events, patrons wearing or otherwise displaying inappropriate or offensive images or logos may be denied entry into the Stadium or asked to remove such items prior to entering the venue.

    Fans are encouraged to bring colour and energy to the event and are allowed to express their views.

    Small flags and banners are permitted.

    There has been no ban on rainbow flags for today’s NRL Grand Final that meet the standard conditions of entry for all major events.

  13. John Constantine

    Social justice is not a new world, social justice IS the world.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/07/books/marvel-comics-diversity-thor-hulk.html

    A combination of ‘white kinghts’, men crawling to save and help the upcoming wymynsys wave, and social justice activists have restructured Marvel Comics.

    The wave of British writers that remade American comics in the eighties were fleeing Thatcher, as she remade Britain from a backward socialist hellhole. so they fled to America instead of Russia. They bought invigorating freshness.

    This new wave of weaponised wymynsys has one trick:

    They pitch the concept of killing off an established character and replacing them with diversity, to coast along on established customers with publicity from the ‘shock’.

    ” the smartest person in the world is a young girl of diversity, and she has physical power because she totally controls a dinosaur” is the pitch. There is already a ‘Moon Boy and Devil Dinosaur’ comic doing this idea?.

    Kill the boy and give the girl his Dinosaur.

    Captain America was representative of the Americans that hit the beaches of Normandy on D-Day?.

    Not in social justice world, he had to be revealed as secretly a racist Nazi sleeper agent all along,

    http://mashable.com/2017/04/25/captain-america-hydra-nazi-marvel-comics/

  14. johanna

    calli
    #2511306, posted on September 30, 2017 at 7:47 pm

    An annual sewing day has turned into ‘days’ for a Perth charity group making sustainable sanitary products for girls and women living in disadvantaged countries.

    Idiots. They already have those. All the women want are tampons and pads. Send them a container load and go home and sew curtains.

    Brilliant. Thanks, calli. Unlike these muddle-headed, virtue-signalling do-gooders, you are in favour of practical solutions.

    All over the Western world there are conclaves of people wasting their time in groups like this, in the sincere belief that it is changing the world, or at least making it better.

    They are not, because they are sending a band-aid to a bloodbath and fooling themselves that it matters.

  15. Geriatric Mayfly

    Indeed; our kath’s pedigree is as classic leftie as you can get:

    For Doctor she will be. Not a chance in hell that such a title will escape her, given the sweat and tears normally demanded by any Department of Media, Music, Communication and Cultural Studies.

  16. John Constantine

    “Grandpa has Four wives”.

    [He got the youngest one swapping me to his cousin for a twelve year old.]

  17. Senile Old Guy

    Paul Toohey on football:

    WE’VE become a nation that dwells too much on trivial issues. Not standing for the national anthem — even though we’ve got a lousy one — is mercifully not yet one of them: everyone would rather get it over with and get on with the game. The US, since the arrival of Donald Trump, having got more than it bargained on, is tearing at itself, turning non-issues into major opportunities. Eradicating history by hauling down Confederate statues is such a shame; they will one day surely regret it, if they don’t already. Now, it’s players refusing to kneel for the anthem at National Football League games, because of … what exactly?

    It sounds like he’s going to be critical of the players. Of course not! This is going to be all about Trump. Again.

    It began last year, prior to Trump’s election, when black NFL quarterback Colin Kaepernick and teammate Eric Reid sat back and didn’t stand for the anthem to highlight the killing of black citizens by police. Their protest was little noticed but Kaepernick did explain at the time that he believed police were “getting away with murder”

    .

    Prior to “Turmp’s election”. Let’s put that another way: when Obama was president. And most black people are killed…by other black people.

    Trump claimed this caused “tremendous backlash against the NFL and its player for disrespect of our Country”, and said when the Dallas team dropped to its knees the booing “was the loudest I have ever heard. Great anger”.

    And Trump was correct. Ratings dropped everywhere.

    But an hour later he was veering wildly, having been informed that the Cowboys had actually stood for the anthem: “Big progress being made — we all love our country!”

    How is that veering? His view has been consistent.

    However, both codes have led social policy with their annual indigenous rounds, designed to confront and challenge ugly attitudes within the crowds. These games are not resented as black armband political events, but warmly embraced celebrations.

    What “ugly attitudes within the crowds” would that be? I do not watch the “indigenous rounds” because they are racist: players are selected on the basis of their racial origin. This is racist.

    US rapper Macklemore, who will perform his anti-homophobic song Same Love (“Call each other faggots behind the keys of a message board”) at Sunday’s NRL grand final said he was getting “a lot of tweets from angry old white dudes in Australia”.

    This reads like “hate speech” to me. And why is the NRL getting into politics?

    Backbencher Tony Abbott got stuck in, saying: “Footy fans shouldn’t be subjected to a politicised grand final. Sport is sport!”

    Instead of “backbencher”, Toohey could write “former PM” but this is a spiteful, bitter and vindictive piece so any slur will do.

    Immigration Minister Peter Dutton told 2GB: “I want to take my boys to watch the footy and I don’t want the betting ads jammed down their throat, I don’t want the gay marriage message jammed down their throat at the football.” It is Abbott and Dutton who are politicising the grand final by getting worked up about a mild song by a moderate mainstream artist that contains zero blue language and has a positive message about letting people be free to be.

    Really? The NRL deliberately selected an performer to sing a song celebrating SSM and it is Abbott and Dutton who are “politicising the grand final”? And this guy is not a “mainstream artist”. I had never heard of him or his song before the NRL picked him. And “a positive message about letting people be free to be”? Spare me! It is a deliberate attempt to politicise the grand final while the country is voting — er, commenting — on SSM.

    They’ve set the scene for the poor bloke to get booed on Sunday. Or maybe it will go the other way and people will get behind the rapper (who’s apparently straight). The 177,400,000 people who watched the official version of Same Love on YouTube certainly had no problem with it.

    The “official” version? I suppose he means the “non-pirated” version. But now YouTube views count towards authenticity.

    And “who’s apparently straight”? What a pathetic journalist is Toohey. 2 seconds on Google gives this:

    He became engaged to his girlfriend of seven years, Tricia Davis, on January 21, 2013. On January 3, 2015, he announced on Twitter that he and his fiancée were expecting their first child that May. After the release of “Growing Up (Sloane’s Song)”, which featured English singer-songwriter Ed Sheeran, the couple announced that their daughter, Sloane Ava Simone Haggerty, had been born on May 29. Following the birth of Sloane, they married on June 27, 2015. In September 2017, the couple announced that they are expecting their second child.

  18. Senile Old Guy

    Miranda Devine is very good. An excerpt:

    IT IS dishonest to pretend the uproar over US rapper Macklemore playing at today’s NRL grand final is about trying to ban him or his five-year-old song, Same Love. The song is fine, even though it has the usual bash against the church, “right wing conservatives” and “poisoned” holy water.

    The problem is the timing. The National Rugby League has deliberately inserted itself into a divisive political debate by inviting Macklemore to play a song he wrote specifically in 2012 to sway a same-sex marriage campaign in the US state of Washington. The song became the ­anthem for legalising same-sex marriage in the US.

    It is overtly political, and NRL boss Todd Greenberg last week boasted that inviting Macklemore to sing was “one of the bravest decisions we’ve made”. It was “brave” precisely because Same Love comes in the middle of the postal plebiscite on same-sex ­marriage.

    What Greenberg has done is co-opt 80,000 fans in ANZ stadium unwittingly to participate in a massive propaganda exercise for the Yes campaign that will be televised to almost four million viewers. That’s the equivalent of a $1.5m free TV ad for the Yes campaign, paid for by the ­ticket-buying public, more than 40 per cent of whom are not Yes voters. What makes the NRL’s ­politicisation of the grand final even more egregious is the fact that an advertisement made by the No campaign to play during the game tonight has been banned by Free TV, the same mob who banned a Father’s Day commercial ­earlier this month for being “too political”.

    Free TV has given the ad an “M” rating, thus sneakily rendering it ineligible for broadcast.

    See what FTV did there? Sneaky! But I will not be one of those “almost four million viewers”. I have had enough of this BS. (And my team got knocked out.)

  19. johanna

    Any because he loves the gay stuff.

    Just in case anyone thinks that the person who posts as “candy” is our original Candy, yet another screwup. The real Candy would never have written that.

    Grigsie just can’t help himself.

  20. H B Bear

    Jordan Spieth and fatboy Patrick Reed came up with a novel concept when they were paired together today, Humphrey: they were competing against each other to see how many points each could claim credit for, …

    Americans are worse winners than the Australian cricket team. Can Kim Jung Un’s rockets reach the course?

  21. johanna

    Boambee John
    #2511514, posted on October 1, 2017 at 9:03 am

    TheirABC has paid her for this drivel, which merits a C for a first year undergraduate.

    You are far too kind to her johanna.

    Now, there’s something I am not accused of very often! 🙂

    But, in dredging through my posessions recently, I found some of my undergraduate essays, and they are pretty awful. The others must have been even worse, because my essays got good marks. Then again, mine were embellished with correct spelling and grammar.

    I can’t believe that this bint is doing a PhD on “the personal is political” when she can’t even write a few hundred words that make sense.

  22. DrBeauGan

    I can’t believe that this bint is doing a PhD on “the personal is political” when she can’t even write a few hundred words that make sense.

    Making sense is no longer a requirement in the new faculty of soggy science.

  23. Fergus

    The Region of Peace showing its peaceful self. How else are they going to get rid of their surplus males -gotta keep ’em dead on a promise of 72 virgins.
    https://www.debka.com/mivzak/iran-backed-iraqi-pmu-ready-act-kurdish-secession/

  24. ssr

    Boambee John
    #2511488, posted on October 1, 2017 at 8:21 am

    srr’s post at 2343 shows tyexdepth of the DC Swamp.

    A group of anonymous civil servants, almost certainly “career” officers, not presidential appointees, controls a slush fund amounting to 100s of millions to dispense at their discretion.

    The only way to control them is to “re-purpose” the fund to something that actually contributes positively to the nation.

    And how many more such groups exist? Removal of their money is the only solution. Starve them and the swamp will get a little bit drier.

    It was only tens of millions, not hundreds, but it was some decades ago, and it was only a group of one, me.

    All I had to do for total personal control of this annual budget was to NOT refer survivors of child sexual abuse to police, ministers, doctors, anyone but the mob sponsoring the (then Labor), backed position.

    Needless to say, I made some pretty serious enemies when I knocked back that flattering, chance of a lifetime.

  25. johanna

    Yikes, cohenite, that profile of Kath Kenny is as simultaneously content-free and bulking-up the CV as you can get.

    I will keep an eye out for this slug crawling up the greasy pole of leftist academia.

    Frankly, she’s not very bright. But, when it comes to rising in the PC world, and getting paid handsomely for it, who cares?

  26. John64

    The end of Ol’ Leathery’s Reeducation Hour saw the couch collective in quite a self-congratulatory mood.

    They reckon the first update from the ABS this week on the SSM postal ballot will reveal a high return of around 55% already and that polling reveals that the ballots already returned are running around 74% YES 26% NO.

    In other words, it’s all over. We shall see.

  27. Geriatric Mayfly

    because my essays got good marks.

    Not being censorious Johanna, nor oppressive and certainly not elitist. But ‘got’ is one of my horror words. I even saw ‘gotten’ used on this august site the other day. Standards please!

  28. Tel

    And why is the NRL getting into politics?

    Because anywhere you find a built up store of goodwill, you also find people willing to mine that and turn it to their own personal advantage. This process of constant self-consumption is what keeps our culture fresh and dynamic. The Hindus got it right: creation, preservation and destruction are the three fundamental forces.

  29. Robber Baron

    Just at a Catholic hospital. Some hooded muslim bint carrying on to the staff why they have no squat toilet.

    This country deserves what it’s getting. Surrender leads to servitude.

  30. Joe

    Because anywhere you find a built up store of goodwill, you also find people willing to mine that and turn it to their own personal advantage.

    Because there are no clear rules to prevent that activity by expelling the miscreants.

  31. Fergus

    Maybe the penis taping taught in safe schools is a contraceptive measure.

  32. johanna

    Free TV has given the ad an “M” rating, thus sneakily rendering it ineligible for broadcast.

    See what FTV did there? Sneaky!

    FTV have always been a shady outfit. For years, their ads only featured a P.O. Box in Neutral Bay as their contact details. No address, no phone number, and no internet access.

    They have finally put up a website, but so has every kiddie pron entrepreneur.

    Not holding my breath for any of our touted “investigative journalists” to explain who they are, where (and how much) the money comes from, and what they do.

  33. Top Ender

    This has now been a post-free zone for one hour.

  34. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Just at a Catholic hospital. Some hooded muslim bint carrying on to the staff why they have no squat toilet.

    Some religions have moved past the seventh century?

  35. Slayer of Memes

    Just at a Catholic hospital. Some hooded muslim bint carrying on to the staff why they have no squat toilet.

    Not even a Squatty Potty??

  36. Needless to say, I made some pretty serious enemies when I knocked back that flattering, chance of a lifetime.

    Sounds like some sinister shit behind that, srr.

  37. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Just at a Catholic hospital. Some hooded muslim bint carrying on to the staff why they have no squat toilet.

    Tell her she’s allowed three stones – no toilet paper.

  38. Muddy

    Fergus
    #2511548, posted on October 1, 2017 at 10:07 am

    Maybe the penis taping taught in safe schools is a contraceptive measure.

    It’s about WH&S. Hence ‘safe’ schools. This has all been misinterpreted.

  39. But ‘got’ is one of my horror words. I even saw ‘gotten’ used on this august site the other day. Standards please!

    Pray tell, is wrong with the humble, but correct (when used correctly), words “got” and “gotten”?

  40. C.L.

    Boys who don’t laugh along could become psychopaths.

  41. BrettW

    Classic line from Lenore Taylor on Insiders when she said there is no such thing as an economic refugee.

  42. notafan

    Demanding a squat toilet is islamic exceptionalism.

    There is no religious requirement to use a squat, she must have wanted the water cleansing option,

    Natuarally the filthy mess they leave is for the kafir slaves to deal with.

    Next time go to the muslim run hospital luv.

    I bet muslims would generally preference kafir hospitals btw, not of that inshallah there.

  43. Boambee John

    Robber Baron
    #2511544, posted on October 1, 2017 at 9:57 am
    Just at a Catholic hospital. Some hooded muslim bint carrying on to the staff why they have no squat toilet.

    Hand her a shovel and a roll of toilet paper (or three smooth stones) and point her towards the nearest shrubbery.

  44. John64

    Classic line from Lenore Taylor on Insiders when she said there is no such thing as an economic refugee.

    For once Le Snore is correct. If you leave your home country for economic reasons, you’re not a refugee.

  45. C.L.

    ‘Gotten’ is an Americanism. The past participle of the verb get is got.

  46. BrettW

    If you want to see devotion to duty on a Blog check out the many many comments by Fair Dinkum (a Yes voter) in the Miranda Devine Daily Telegraph link posted above. Did not read them all but a popular theme was if dont agree with Greenberg then stop watching NRL.

  47. Tel

    Pray tell, is wrong with the humble, but correct (when used correctly), words “got” and “gotten”?

    Got me beat.

  48. Crossie

    calli
    #2511306, posted on September 30, 2017 at 7:47 pm

    An annual sewing day has turned into ‘days’ for a Perth charity group making sustainable sanitary products for girls and women living in disadvantaged countries.

    Idiots. They already have those. All the women want are tampons and pads. Send them a container load and go home and sew curtains.

    Brilliant. Thanks, calli. Unlike these muddle-headed, virtue-signalling do-gooders, you are in favour of practical solutions.

    People in even the poorest countries now have mobile phones and internet. The issue in those places is affordable and reliable electricity. Oh wait, that is our issue as well.

  49. Boambee John

    BrettW
    #2511558, posted on October 1, 2017 at 10:17 am
    Classic line from Lenore Taylor on Insiders when she said there is no such thing as an economic refugee.

    She is quite correct.

    They are people who are attempting to circumvent immigration procedures for personal financial gain.

    Frauds, in other words.

  50. C.L.

    We live in a feudal aristocracy, you do realise that, right?

    Bishop: ‘I’m entitled to it’

    Foreign Minister Julie Bishop defends taxpayer-funded travel to attend the AFL grand final, calling it a “significant international event”.

  51. Geriatric Mayfly

    Pray tell, is wrong with the humble, but correct (when used correctly), words “got” and “gotten”?

    Nothing really. Just that there are so many synonyms which do a better job, albeit with some inconvenience.

  52. Some hooded muslim bint carrying on to the staff why they have no squat toilet.

    All Australian hospitals have squat toilets.
    They are called “bedpans”.

  53. Crossie

    Classic line from Lenore Taylor on Insiders when she said there is no such thing as an economic refugee.

    For once Le Snore is correct. If you leave your home country for economic reasons, you’re not a refugee.

    Neither are the millions of Syrian young men who streamed into Europe. They are deserters who don’t want to fight for their country, their people or even their families. If they stayed and sent off their women and children to safety I would believe them.

  54. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I bet muslims would generally preference kafir hospitals btw, not of that inshallah there.

    Good point. How do you run a hospital where it’s the will of Allah if the patient kicks the bucket?

  55. Senile Old Guy

    Their ABC pimping for the NRL:

    After a season of embarrassment over abysmal NRL crowds, fans need to realise this NRL grand final is about more than the Storm and Cowboys being outsiders and get behind the event.

    The NRL has politicised the grand final by making it all about SSM. Why should the fans get behind (oops) this? I suspect that part of the reason the game is tanking is that it is pushing political issues too much. And, in my case, as it gets more obsessed with ridiculous rules, it becomes boring.

    NRL fans really don’t do themselves any favours. After a month of ridicule about woeful crowds for finals games, grand final tickets are apparently selling slow and we could be in for one of the worst-attended deciders in NRL history. It’s frankly ridiculous.

    Good. Perhaps the NRL will get the message. There’s also the price.

    Fans will be able to purchase special early-bird tickets to the 2017 NRL Telstra Premiership Grand Final from as little as $45 for Members and $65 for General Public. Tickets to the 2017 decider will go on sale to ticketed NRL Club Members on Monday June 26, and to the General Public on Thursday, June 29. As part of special early-bird prices, General Public family tickets will be available from $180, ensuring all fans have access to the biggest NRL game of the year. Children can attend from as little as $50.

    $200 to watch a game of rugby league? That I can watch on TV for free? And “as little as $50”?

    Now that the AFL and NRL grand finals share a weekend, the less kicky code’s inability to get people pumped for the biggest day of the year is driven home harder than ever before.

    It is all getting a bit meaningless. I do not blame the players, at all. The current group of players have incredible skills. It’s a pity that the management are so useless.

  56. johanna

    Senile Old Guy
    #2511528, posted on October 1, 2017 at 9:22 am

    Great post, SOG.

    The Australian MSM seem to be taking their cues from those serial liars in the US. Having the classic third generation wealth destroyers in the Murdoch family in charge has not helped. They are out to turn The Australian and Fox into Fauxfacts.

    Can’t be bothered looking up the reference again, but for me the die was cast years ago during the British Parliamentary inquiry into allegedly nefarious doings by The Sun. I have mentioned this before.

    James, the MBA idiot, admitted that he signed a cheque for seven and fifty thousand pounds to settle a libel suit without even reading the paperwork.

    Seven hundred and fifty thousand pounds! Just like that!

    His father would have read every word of the paperwork, and then told them to go back and do it again.

    His grandfather would have fired them on the spot.

    If the Murdoch boys choose to dissolve their empire into the sludge of the rest of them, so be it. It’s not my money. But shareholders should take a care.

  57. ssr

    The Beer Whisperer
    #2511553, posted on October 1, 2017 at 10:12 am

    Needless to say, I made some pretty serious enemies when I knocked back that flattering, chance of a lifetime.

    Sounds like some sinister shit behind that, srr.

    Yes.

  58. Crossie

    We live in a feudal aristocracy, you do realise that, right?

    Bishop: ‘I’m entitled to it’

    Foreign Minister Julie Bishop defends taxpayer-funded travel to attend the AFL grand final, calling it a “significant international event”.

    Feudal is too organised, what we have is worse than that. Half of our political class are fruits and the other half are nuts. We have to vote them all out and start again.

  59. Senile Old Guy

    ‘Gotten’ is an Americanism. The past participle of the verb get is got.

    Nope.

    That gotten is primarily used in North America has given rise to the mistaken belief that it is American in origin and hence new and inferior. But gotten is in fact an old form, predating the United States and Canada by several centuries. It fell out of favor in British English by the 18th century, but it was eventually picked up again on the other side of the Atlantic, perhaps by analogy with forgotten.

  60. Just that there are so many synonyms which do a better job, albeit with some inconvenience.

    Damn!
    I had gotten used to employing “had gotten” to describe a previous acquisition, in the past tense.

  61. Muddy

    The only footy I watch now is the State of Origin (League). I grew up with the then VFL (the Bombers in the glory days), and started to balance my loyalties after heading north. What with the indigenous round, women’s round, the lecturing about how all males are violent bastards, and now ‘Go Gay or Go Home,’ I’ve had it. It used to be the fantasy of ‘what if I could do that?’ Now I realise that even if I could (no bloody chance!), I wouldn’t be good enough to fit in. It’s not ‘our’ game anymore. It’s ‘You’re privileged to be allowed to slink in our shadow. Scum.’

  62. John64

    I’ve always liked begotten. Bit hard to work into everyday conversation though.

  63. Muddy

    I meant ‘wouldn’t be good enough to fit in’ in terms of moral superiority.

  64. Crossie

    It is all getting a bit meaningless. I do not blame the players, at all. The current group of players have incredible skills. It’s a pity that the management are so useless.

    These days the elites in every walk of life are not elite but they can’t quite see it. We commoners down here see perfectly the feet of clay.

  65. Muddy

    I’m pleased to note you are still with us, memoryvault.

  66. Boambee John

    C.L.
    #2511569, posted on October 1, 2017 at 10:25 am
    We live in a feudal aristocracy, you do realise that, right?

    Well our self-appointed lords and ladies certainly act that way.

    Where is Wat Tyler when we need him?

    Or since the Slime, Liars and Liars Lite regard us as slaves, where is Spartacus?

  67. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I’m pleased to note you are still with us, memoryvault.

    I will second that, muddy.

  68. cohenite

    John Constantine

    #2511523, posted on October 1, 2017 at 9:13 am

    Social justice is not a new world, social justice IS the world.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/07/books/marvel-comics-diversity-thor-hulk.html

    That is just terrible. I can’t believe Stan Lee is a party to this. The left are sick, they corrupt everything.

  69. Struth;

    The NRL elites will decide what politics is pushed at their venues.
    A nice little queer singing about transmitting Aids and calling it Marriage is fine, because they want you to pay to hear their political message.

    You forgot the arse cancer.
    Never forget the arse cancer.

  70. stackja

    Boambee John
    #2511587, posted on October 1, 2017 at 10:44 am
    C.L.
    #2511569, posted on October 1, 2017 at 10:25 am
    We live in a feudal aristocracy, you do realise that, right?

    Well our self-appointed lords and ladies certainly act that way.

    Where is Wat Tyler when we need him?

    Or since the Slime, Liars and Liars Lite regard us as slaves, where is Spartacus?

    Peter Lalor?

  71. Boambee John

    SOG at 1026

    It’s a pity that the management are so useless.

    As I asked yesterday, how many of the top management (in any sporting code) have actually played in their code at top level? I recall one switching the code he spruiked for.

  72. stackja

    I note Cat time is AEST!

  73. Roger

    We live in a feudal aristocracy, you do realise that, right?

    Actually, it’s worse….the feudal aristocracy retained a belief in noblesse oblige.

    Our rulers feel obligated to none.

  74. Muddy

    Someone needs to draw and write a comic about a sacred cow of the left, and completely invert the story. What about Barrack Obama, who is actually a rich, old, ‘white’ man who peels off his face each night before bed and slips it on again in the morning?

  75. I’m pleased to note you are still with us, memoryvault.

    Thanks Muddy and Zulu – but the pleasure is all mine.
    It’s been an interesting three weeks, but everything is now on track back to normal.

  76. Muddy

    Our rulers feel obligated to none.

    That’s because we don’t DEMAND it, or put forward credible consequences for not meeting our demands.

  77. Zatara

    Just at a Catholic hospital. Some hooded muslim bint carrying on to the staff why they have no squat toilet.

    Hand her one of these and point to the door.

  78. stackja

    Boambee John
    #2511593, posted on October 1, 2017 at 10:50 am
    SOG at 1026

    It’s a pity that the management are so useless.

    As I asked yesterday, how many of the top management (in any sporting code) have actually played in their code at top level? I recall one switching the code he spruiked for.

    NSW RL John Quayle got side lined by National News RL.

  79. Makka

    Bishop: ‘I’m entitled to it’

    More votes to Bernardi.

  80. Roger

    Just at a Catholic hospital. Some hooded muslim bint carrying on to the staff why they have no squat toilet.

    Where does she think she is…the Tax Department?

  81. ssr

    Union betrayal of their own people again –

    Report: Puerto Rico Teamsters Union, “Frente Amplio”, Refuse to Deliver Supplies – Use Hurricane Maria as Contract Leverage…
    Posted on September 30, 2017 by sundance

    Puerto Rican born and raised, Colonel Michael A. Valle (”Torch”), Commander, 101st Air and Space Operations Group, and Director of the Joint Air Component Coordination Element, 1st Air Force, responsible for Hurricane Maria relief efforts, has the following comment*:

    …They have the generators, water, food, medicine, and fuel on the ground, yet the supplies are not moving across the island as quickly as they’re needed.

    “It’s a lack of drivers for the transport trucks, the 18 wheelers. Supplies we have. Trucks we have. There are ships full of supplies, backed up in the ports, waiting to have a vehicle to unload into. However, only 20% of the truck drivers show up to work. These are private citizens in Puerto Rico, paid by companies that are contracted by the government”.. (link*)

    The ports are so full of relief supplies they can’t fit any more on the available space. CNBC ground report confirms Colonel Valle’s ground report. WATCH:
    *
    The reason for truck drivers not showing up? The Puerto Rican Teamsters Union, Frente Amplio, is refusing to move the product.

    *Continue reading →

  82. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Pray tell, is wrong with the humble, but correct (when used correctly), words “got” and “gotten”?

    “Pray tell” is a useful phrase to have if one is obliged to converse with the terminally stupid, or the perpetually dullard. Another is “Allow me to inform you..”

  83. Roger

    As I asked yesterday, how many of the top management (in any sporting code) have actually played in their code at top level?

    Or more to the point started out in grass roots administration where they know what the priorities are: keep the pies hot, the beer cold and the dunnies clean.

  84. Makka

    The reason for truck drivers not showing up? The Puerto Rican Teamsters Union, Frente Amplio, is refusing to move the product.

    Round them all up including their leaders, put them in the brig and get in thousands of military truckies.

  85. Boambee John

    stackja

    Since (despite what the CFMEU thinks) Eureka was a rebellion against taxation and the over-bearing public servants who administered it, Peter Lalor is a quite relevana exaple for us.

    I particularly liked one description of the Stockade as being built with slabs. VB?

  86. JC

    Hang overs are terrible things.

  87. Joe

    The Puerto Rican Teamsters Union, Frente Amplio, is refusing to move the product.

    How is that not extortion? How is any union activity not seen as extortion?

  88. Roger

    The reason for truck drivers not showing up? The Puerto Rican Teamsters Union, Frente Amplio, is refusing to move the product.

    Are many lamp posts still standing in PR?

    If so there’s a good use for them even without electricity.

  89. ssr

    Shameful San Juan Mayor Prioritizes Making Puerto Rico Crisis Political – President Trump Rightly Hits Back…
    Posted on September 30, 2017 by sundance

    The Mayor of San Juan, Puerto Rico, Carmen Yulin-Cruz attempts to make the crisis in Puerto Rico political. The insufferable mindset to make things political is only exceeded by the ridiculous optic of calling for federal aid while surrounded by relief supplies provided entirely by the U.S. federal government.

    •50% of the native Puerto Rican National Guard refused to report to duty* when the governor called them up. •Thousands of tons of supplies and equipment, provided by FEMA, U.S. military and U.S. relief agencies, sit at ports* while municipal government has no process for delivering them. •Frente Amplio (PR Teamsters Union – truck drivers) are on strike and refusing to deliver supplies*. •Over 10,000 U.S. federal personnel are providing recovery and relief on the island….

    https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2017/09/puerto-rico-3.jpg

    …and the priority for the Mayor of San Juan, with no power or infrastructure, is to have T-Shirts made to push a political agenda?

    Funny how Anderson Cooper never asks:Where does one get a shirt like this made when Puerto Rico is under water and out of power? (rhetorical question)

    *Continue reading →
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/09/30/shameful-san-juan-mayor-prioritizes-making-puerto-rico-crisis-political-president-trump-rightly-hits-back/

  90. Boambee John

    a relevant example even!

  91. Geriatric Mayfly

    Some hooded muslim bint carrying on to the staff why they have no squat toilet.

    In some obscure record of the Prophet’s (PBUH) ramblings isn’t the approach to and exit from the water closet laid down in immutable terms? Even to the extent of what liturgical niceties prevail whilst inside? The modern white telephone to Allah would have been too culturally advanced for the seventh century mindset.

  92. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Australian citizenship is a privilege, not a right

    The Turnbull government is considering a concept by Federal MP Jason Wood to give would-be terrorists a month’s trial in new government-approved deradicalisation programs. (Pic: News Corp)

    THERE are dumb ideas and then there’s lunacy.

    The latest plan kicking around to combat the growing risk of Islamic terrorism in this country is well and truly the latter.

    As reported today, the Turnbull government is considering a concept by backbencher and former police officer Jason Wood to give would-be terrorists a month’s trial in new government-approved deradicalisation programs with the threat of revoking their visas if they do not participate.

    While he’s got some street cred from his time in uniform, this sort of madness reinforces why Wood isn’t a minister.

    Under Wood’s plan, the Turnbull government would establish new community protection intervention orders that would involve a court determining that an individual posed such a significant terrorism-related risk that deradicalisation was urgently needed.

    Forget the deradicalisation programs, if these would-be terrorists are in Australia on visas, they should be deported immediately. No second-chance, no taxpayer-funded ­opportunity to decide to love the freedoms this country has granted them — out, and out now.

    If they’re dual nationals, cancel their Australian citizenship and send them back. As I have argued before, Australian citizenship is a privilege, not a right. It demands the ­acceptance of our values and a commitment to be a part of Australia’s free society.

    Malcolm, this plan belongs in the bin. Hasten the visa cancellations, don’t put them off.

    From Perth Now. Pray tell, when will these clowns actually realize the danger, and emerge to the real world?

  93. “Pray tell” is a useful phrase to have if one is obliged to converse with the terminally stupid, or the perpetually dullard. Another is “Allow me to inform you..”

    With all due respect, Zulu, I’ll take your comment under advisement.

    .
    Joke

  94. Roger

    Pray tell, when will these clowns actually realize the danger, and emerge to the real world?

    When a terrorist attacks them.

  95. Frank

    I can’t believe that this bint is doing a PhD on “the personal is political” when she can’t even write a few hundred words that make sense.

    I am noticing the increasing number of PhDs where the topic of the thesis is the author. Must be the much vaunted narcissism of the modern generation. Being quite dumb would help also.

  96. Fergus

    Their island is truly on its knees and the bullies do that! Call ’em out, Donald. Marshall law too, to lift the victims out of the mud.

  97. Roger

    One gets the sense that anyone with a bit of get up and go in Puerto Rico has indeed got up and gone.

  98. Boambee John

    srr at 1103

    The Mayor of San Juan, Puerto Rico, Carmen Yulin-Cruz attempts to make the crisis in Puerto Rico political.

    And we have an idiot doing a PhD on the subject “the personal is political”!

  99. Joe

    The reason for truck drivers not showing up? The Puerto Rican Teamsters Union, Frente Amplio, is refusing to move the product.

    Crazy Eddie strikes again!

  100. ssr

    Oops, forgot that link –

    The reason for truck drivers not showing up? The Puerto Rican Teamsters Union, Frente Amplio, is refusing to move the product.

    Continue reading →
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/09/30/puerto-rico-teamsters-union-frente-amplio-refuse-to-deliver-supplies-use-hurricane-maria-as-contract-leverage/#more-139200

  101. Zatara

    Funny how Anderson Cooper never asks:Where does one get a shirt like this made when Puerto Rico is under water and out of power? (rhetorical question)

    There is nothing rhetorical about that question. Mayor Yulin-Cruz needs to be asked exactly that.

  102. Roger

    Marshall law too, to lift the victims out of the mud.

    Martial law, even.

    😉

  103. H B Bear

    One gets the sense that anyone with a bit of get up and go in Puerto Rico has indeed got up and gone.

    So it’s a tropical Tasmania then?

  104. Tom

    Hang overs are terrible things.

    Don’t tell me, JC: you were on the turps with IT until sunrise?

  105. notafan

    My girls did ballet etc two decades ago now, in another world, apparently.

    With a cameo from Mayim Bialik

    Mayim Bialik recently posted a Facebook video explaining why the current trend of plus-size models taking off their clothes in the name of empowerment isn’t actually empowering at all:

    Sexualizing girls and women is not empowering — in ballet class or in the pages of a magazine.

  106. stackja

    Assassins’ bullets have claimed the lives of four United States Presidents, and several other Presidents survived attempts on their lives.

    It is not widely known, but Harry Truman was the target of such a conspiracy.

    Thirteen years before the Kennedy assassination, on November 1, 1950, two Puerto Rican nationalists attempted to take the President’s life. And President Truman’s Missouri-bred “Show Me” instinct might have gotten him killed. The buck certainly would have stopped there.

    The day before the attempt, Oscar Collazo and Griselio Torresola boarded a train to Washington from the Bronx in New York. They carried with them two pistols and the goal of bringing national attention to the cause of the Puerto Rican Nationalist Party (PRNP).

    The mortally wounded Coffelt was not yet out of commission. With a final burst of energy, he leveled his pistol at Torresola’s temple and squeezed. The failed assassin was killed instantly, and the plot to kill Truman was thwarted. Coffelt would go down in Secret Service history as a hero.

    President Jimmy Carter later commuted Collazo’s sentence to time served. Collazo died in Puerto Rico in 1994.

  107. OneWorldGovernment

    Fergus
    #2511619, posted on October 1, 2017 at 11:10 am

    Their island is truly on its knees and the bullies do that! Call ’em out, Donald. Marshall law too, to lift the victims out of the mud.

    They should round up the entire PR island population and put them on the mainland.

    There are more PR’s on the mainland than the island anyway and the cost of keeping the island going is like what we do with Darwin or remote Aboriginal settlements.

  108. Roger

    So it’s a tropical Tasmania then?

    With public debt running at 103% of annual GDP, I’d say it’s more like Norfolk Island: insolvent.

  109. Uh oh

    Robber Baron
    #2511544, posted on October 1, 2017 at 9:57 am
    Just at a Catholic hospital. Some hooded muslim bint carrying on to the staff why they have no squat toilet.

    Now you’ve got me wondering what the arrangement would be in her own home. Pedestal knocked out and just a hole in the floor? Flush with a bucket? Or do they use a potty?. The mind boggles.

  110. C.L.

    But gotten is in fact an old form, predating the United States and Canada by several centuries. It fell out of favor in British English by the 18th century,

    Yes, I Googled that too.
    But the correct past participle of get is got.

  111. stackja

    West Side Story
    From Wikipedia

    The musical explores the rivalry between the Jets and the Sharks, two teenage street gangs of different ethnic backgrounds. The members of the Sharks, from Puerto Rico, are taunted by the Jets, a white gang.

  112. johanna

    As I asked yesterday, how many of the top management (in any sporting code) have actually played in their code at top level?

    You should be careful what you wish for.

  113. C.L.

    I wonder if the gay lobby is aware that the NRL chose an SS”M” PR stunt for the grand final to take the heat off the game following the recent gang sex scandal. Gays realise they’re now being used by corporates as publicity rent boys, don’t they?

  114. C.L.

    As I asked yesterday, how many of the top management (in any sporting code) have actually played in their code at top level?

    See also the ADF.

  115. johanna

    Further to my comment above, RIP Murray Walker, who was not an F1 driver, but made spectators and listeners feel as though they were.

  116. Roger

    If they had gotten Easy Fever to sing at the NRL final, as C.L. suggested, they could have sung “Wedding Ring”.

  117. stackja

    James:

    He, of his own will, has begotten us with the word of truth…

    Peter:

    For you have been begotten again by God’s ever-living and enduring word…

  118. C.L.

    RIP Murray Walker

    He’s still alive.

  119. BrettW

    One can safely conclude that the “former mostly desk-bound soldier” is the female pay clerk who appeared on the Voice and made claims about her tour of Afghanistan whilst attached with Special Forces.

    Now they are investigating those who complained about her bragging on the basis that it is bullying ! How come they have never had a problem with the many male imposters revealed by ANZMI.

    The Army might also look into the role that Army PR may have had in boosting her role as a female warrior to fit in with the women in combat and increased female recruitment %age agenda.

    The same article in Courier Mail today ends with a funny aside. The journalist, in view of the recent gender neutral story, asked the Defence media official to confirm if was a spokesman or spokeswomen. The person declined. Guess the press cant be too careful now as would not want to offend anybody. Reap what you sow ADF. Fast becoming a joke all in the name of PC.

    stackja
    #2511470, posted on October 1, 2017 at 7:40 am
    Page 87 of Sydney Sunday Telegraph:

    Leave war fakers be, Defence tells vets

    Instead it is after any soldiers who might be helping to expose the fraudsters, saying that blowing the whistle on dodgy ex-soldiers is bullying and harassment.

    Over the past 22 years, the Australian and New Zealand Military Impostors (ANZMI) has uncovered more than 300 men and women who have either been talking up their service for financial or employment gain or fraudulently wearing medals for which they were not entitled.

    The group, which claims it never exposes anyone without absolute evidence, is run by exservice personnel but assisted by current military personnel.

    But the Defence Department is conducting an investigation into whether exposing military fraudsters is bullying.

    In one particular case a former mostly desk-bound soldier was apparently publicly claiming a career of counter-terrorism derring-do.

    But, when featured on the ANZMI website, the Defence Department was asked to investigate whether the exposure was aided by serving defence personnel.

    “The only Defence investigation … is currently examining allegations ADF members may have been involved in an online campaign of harassment and bullying targeting a former member,” a department official said. The official said they could not discuss whether an individual was or was not correct in their military claims and added: “However, we encourage you to remember that veterans suffering mental health issues deserve our respect.”

  120. ssr

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 3h3 hours ago

    Because of #FakeNews my people are not getting the credit they deserve for doing a great job.
    As seen here, they are ALL doing a GREAT JOB!
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/914260261304860672
    9:26
    KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK & IGNORE THE FAKE NEWS!
    I want everybody on the ground in PR & USVI assisting in Hurricane Maria relief efforts to know that we are grateful & thankful to all of you! Ignore the FAKE NEWS & keep up the GREAT WORK! THANK YOU!

  121. Roger

    Genesis 4:1 (A.V., AD1611)

    And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.

  122. Roger

    Over the past 22 years, the Australian and New Zealand Military Impostors (ANZMI) has uncovered more than 300 men and women who have …been talking up their service for financial or employment gain…

    That’s a bit like talking up your indigenous ancestry to get a financial or employment benefit.

    Oh wait…we can’t say that.

  123. zyconoclast

    The Marxist takeover of Sweeden occurred during the late 1960s.
    In the book New Totalitarians written in 1972.

    It is more obvious now because of all the swarthy and violent immigrants.
    I used to have a copy.

  124. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    How come they have never had a problem with the many male imposters revealed by ANZMI.

    There are a couple of fvcking scoundrels on that site I’d like to run into again.

  125. johanna

    C.L. so he is! Born in 1923, I wrongly assumed that he had joined the Dead Parrot brigade. Great to hear that he is still with us.

    Murray is the antidote to the “we need lunkheads to comment” meme. His informed, enthusiastic, and thrilling commentary on F1 got me interested in it, and kept me interested in it, for years.

    Not that he was in favour of Nigel Mansell, or anything. 🙂

  126. stackja

    Their ABC:

    Teen charged with attempted murder after allegedly trying to run down people in Melbourne CBD
    Updated 12 minutes ago
    A 15-year-old boy has been charged with two counts of attempted murder and six counts of recklessly endangering life, after allegedly trying to run down people in Melbourne’s CBD on grand final day.

    The boy, from Melbourne’s eastern suburbs, is also facing charges of assaulting police and resisting a police officer and was remanded in custody.

    He will appear in a children’s court at a later date.

  127. stackja

    Their ABC:

    Unexpectedly unemployed: How to cope with losing your job
    By Stephanie Anderson, Simon Leo Brown and Fiona Pepper
    Posted about 6 hours ago

  128. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Any because he loves the gay stuff.
    Just in case anyone thinks that the person who posts as “candy” is our original Candy, yet another screwup. The real Candy would never have written that.
    Grigsie just can’t help himself.

    Candy’s changed a lot in her form of commenting in the six years she’s been coming here, but people do change, become more confident (I have) and in my view much of what she writes still rings true to the original person. Come back in and defend yourself, Candy. A lot of people I know who are dismissive of the alphabet rainbow crowd of LBGTI would speak of ‘the gay stuff’. I hope more people dismiss it that way for the very sideline issue it is (and should be) vs the heterosexual norm as the basis of society for most of us and vote NO.

    Great to see John Howard’s full page letter in the Weekend Oz. I doubt he expects it to change the vote much, as it’s too late, a lot of votes are in already, but it may be a worthwhile benchmark statement of sanity to retreat to when the activists over-reach themselves, as they certainly will if ‘yes’ gets up or regardless of any vote if Shorten gets in.

  129. stackja

    PNG HUNTERS V PENRITH PANTHERS: PAPUA NEW GUINEA GEARS UP FOR GAME THAT WILL STOP THE NATION
    DAVID RICCIO, The Daily Telegraph
    September 30, 2017 6:00pm
    Subscriber only

    MORE than two million people from Papua New Guinea will gather around TVs in their villages, roadside shops, or guesthouses on Sunday afternoon.

    History — for a second time in as many weeks — awaits this rugby league-loving nation when at 3.40pm Sunday, the PNG Hunters play Penrith in the Intrust Super Championship grand final at ANZ Stadium.

    To appreciate and better understand the significance of PNG’s greatest sporting moment, chief sports writer David Riccio spoke with sports editor of PNG’s leading newspaper, The National, Peter Pusal.

    Riccio: Could you give me a sense of what Sunday will be like in Port Moresby, when the PNG Hunters play Penrith?

    Pusal: The Hunters’ goal has always been to win the QRL Intrust Super Cup title. They did that last Sunday with a hard-fought last-gasp 12-10 win over the Sunshine Coast Falcons. That win — the first time ever for the PNG Hunters — unified a nation. For a country with more than 700 languages and a multitude of cultures, this was something pretty special. It was a moment every Papua New Guinean watching at Suncorp Stadium in Brisbane or in front of a TV in PNG went up in unison. Tears were shed, and emotions ran freely. Everybody was so proud of the team and its achievement.

    Riccio: What would victory over Penrith mean to the country? I could only imagine the welcome ceremony back home the team would receive.

    If the Hunters win the Interstate Championship it’ll be another massive celebration for the fans here (thousands lining the streets to welcome back the team) and a statement to the NRL/ARL that we might be on to something up here.

  130. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    How come they have never had a problem with the many male imposters revealed by ANZMI.

    Ex – serviceman’s organization was approached by a worried wife – her husband had served several tours with a certain unit, he was a shambles with drink and drugs, and he needed help.

    It emerged that the unit he claimed to have served with had never heard of him, and the six years he claimed to have served had actually been spent in jail, for various sex offenses.

  131. Roger

    If the Hunters win the Interstate Championship it’ll be another massive celebration for the fans here (thousands lining the streets to welcome back the team) and a statement to the NRL/ARL that we might be on to something up here.

    Having the PNG Hunters in the NRL would be quite subversive of the reigning culture.

    Good luck to ’em.

  132. C.L.

    I’m guessing SS”M” doesn’t have huge support in the PNG Hunters camp.

  133. C.L.

    PNG are hard core on the football field.
    Yes, the annual PM’s Thirteen results in a cricket score, typically.
    But one of the ‘roos was interviewed the other day after the match and said you don’t walk away from the Hunters without knowing you’ve played a game. They take no prisoners.

  134. Boambee John

    One gets the sense that anyone with a bit of get up and go in Puerto Rico has indeed got up and gone.

    As long ago as the 1960s, West Side Story (essentially Romeo and Juliet set in New York City) used Puerto Ricans as one of the ethnic gangs.

    Leaving Puerto Rico has a long history.

  135. Roger

    Yes, the annual PM’s Thirteen results in a cricket score, typically.

    They can only improve with better, regular competition.

  136. C.L.

    Oh no. That 15 year-old who got trapped under 100kgs in a Brisbane gym has died.
    He was just a lad – bit off more than he could handle (as lads are wont to do).
    That he didn’t have a spotter is appalling. And this was at a PCYC.

  137. Mike of Marion

    johanna
    #2511641, posted on October 1, 2017 at 11:33 am

    What is your source?

  138. Pray tell, when will these clowns actually realize the danger, and emerge to the real world?

    When a terrorist attacks them.

    After a terrorist attack, shirley they will emerge into the next world.

  139. Boambee John

    stackja at 1129

    Snap.

  140. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I hope the hospital said that squat pans are unhygienic and uncivilized and that if you want western medicine you use a western-style toilet. Long robes flipping around that hole in the ground are fantastic carriers of ecoli and other pathogens into the wards; same for using your hands as toilet paper. And no argument from SJW’s about how squatting to poo is just great for your bum. It isn’t.

  141. miltonf

    Roger thanks for posting.

    When I was growing up Sweden was presented as the ideal society, And in engineering they sure punched above their weight. Shocking how it’s all turned to sh*t.

  142. Boambee John

    johanna
    #2511637, posted on October 1, 2017 at 11:30 am
    As I asked yesterday, how many of the top management (in any sporting code) have actually played in their code at top level?

    You should be careful what you wish for.

    At least there would be a vague possibility that they might have some commitment to the future of the code, not just the latest PC fad?

  143. C.L.

    Feminism wrecked Sweden and is wrecking the West generally.

  144. ssr

    ReclaimAustraliaNSW‏ @NswReclaim 1h1 hour ago

    Grooming Epidemic Spreads North to Glasgow, Scotland
    http://bit.ly/2xwWeHj via @BreitbartNews
    ______________________

    When you normalise sex for sex sake and no responsibility for consequences; the abortion of children up to full term; the sale of eggs, embryos and the babies (those not aborted as not perfect enough or surplus to requirement), to anyone willing to pay your price … the general dehumanising of humanity, well, the hiring out and sale of daughters (and sons), to the local political power wielders becomes a ‘no brainer‘ for all those captured by The Evil who bought the, ‘you’re born, you die, you rot in the ground’, lie.

  145. Fisky

    Ben Shaw was found by a staff member at the Pine Rivers PCYC gym on Tuesday evening pinned to a bench after the weightlifting accident occurred.

    The duty of care implications here are enormous. You can’t leave kids unsupervised in a games room, let alone in a gym with 20kg plates lying around.

  146. C.L.

    Tim Blair skewers David Morrison.
    Morro should be confronted like this fake soldier was:

  147. Roger

    Roger thanks for posting.

    You’re welcome, milton.

    While on the topic of things Swedish, Claes Ryn has written some excellent books about American culture and he also translated some essays 20 or so years ago by a Swedish anti-modernist whose name presently escapes me…anyone remember?

  148. Fisky

    Brilliant move. Who could oppose this, other than a deranged hate-filled Leftist?

    Switzerland’s legislature has voted to ban the foreign funding of mosques, including from Saudi Arabia, as well as to force mosques to use local languages instead of Arabic or other foreign tongues.

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/09/29/swiss-parliament-votes-ban-foreign-funded-mosques-arabic-preaching/

  149. John64;

    …and that polling reveals that the ballots already returned are running around 74% YES 26% NO.

    And that is bullshit.
    I certainly will NOT accept this result if that trend continues.

  150. notafan

    1. Prosperity Tax through a new corporate tax regime that will get the nation out of debt and allow for the other 7 priorities to be put into place. It will make tax simpler, bring the budget into surplus, stimulate jobs, maintain our AAA credit rating, improve tax avoidance, keep capital within the nation and make Australians wealthier.

    Australian People’s Party


    a new party we could all get behind

  151. Snoopy

    Feminism wrecked Sweden and is wrecking the West generally.

    I blame Liv Ullmann.

  152. ZK2A;

    Good point. How do you run a hospital where it’s the will of Allah if the patient kicks the bucket?

    I watched a Saudi doc utterly stuff up a cardiac arrest in Riyadh.
    He wouldn’t listen to the female nurses who could have taught him something, and he wouldn’t use the correct drugs.
    Then he told the rels that “Inshallah”

  153. ssr

    Bill Mitchell‏Verified account @mitchellvii 11h11 hours ago

    What makes Trump’s record-setting first 8 months all the more remarkable is that he achieved it with NO help from Congress or the Media.
    _______________________

    Yeah but plenty from a world full real people who the up-their-own-arses political classes consider so powerless and worthless.

    You could just about say it’s Biblical in it’s humbling, world turning, allegory.
    🙂

  154. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Morro should be confronted like this fake soldier was:

    First question should be “What’s your service number?” I was allocated my first one over forty years ago, and remember it to this day.

  155. Tel

    Australian People’s Party

    They don’t look so bad, but I’m sorry they chose a bad name. Anything with “People’s Party” is fraught with communism… maybe that’s unfair but most people don’t have the time or interest to get past initial impressions.

  156. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    NEW CORPORATE TAX REGIME

    INCREASING WORKERS’ ANNUAL INCOME​S

    ​INCREASING CENTRELINK PAYMENTS AND PAYING THEM WEEKLY

    MAKING HOSPITALS, GP VISITS AND MEDICINES FULLY GOVERNMENT FUNDED

    MAKING SCHOOL AND UNIVERSITY EDUCATION FULLY GOVERNMENT FUNDED

    MAKING CHILDCARE FOR WORKING PARENTS FULLY GOVERNMENT FUNDED

    ​MAKING AGED CARE AND RETIREMENT HOME FACILITIES AFFORDABLE

    ​ALL 457 VISAS WILL BE ABOLISHED

    Sorry, the Australian Peoples Party just lost me.

  157. stackja

    Measles outbreak: Eight of 11 cases linked to Docklands workplace

    Several more people in Melbourne have contracted measles, taking the current outbreak to 11 cases, Victoria’s Health Department says.

    Eight of the 11 cases are connected through a workplace at the Collins Square building in Docklands and its immediate surroundings. Two other people affected passed through Melbourne’s international terminal on flights to and from Asia. Earlier cases in September included a baby boy, but the latest cases are all adults.

  158. ssr

    The demonic scum are sacrificing their own people (as demonic scum always do), in an effort to construct a, ‘See, Trump is a Dictator who doesn’t respect elected officials.‘, most evil bullshit narrative –

    Thomas Wictor‏ @ThomasWictor 36m36 minutes ago
    Thanks to @WW2SSgt.

    Operation Katrina continues to fall apart.

    Puerto Rico’s cop telling the truth about Hurricane Maria’s aid
    Jennifer Puentes
    n Sep 28, 2017
    English subtitles. A cop from PR was able to get a call through a Hispanic radio station in New York (La Mega). She is telling what she is seeing as a cop in the aftermath or Maria and the government’s injustice

  159. nilk

    Indigenous Defence Consortium Chief Executive former AFL star Adam Goodes.

    So instead of the Barque of Peter we have the Bark of Adam?

  160. cynical1

    Foreign Minister Julie Bishop defends taxpayer-funded travel to attend the AFL grand final, calling it a “significant international event”.

    …………………

    Very galling, but how will you feel if Tits makes Burke FM?

  161. Senile Old Guy

    INCREASING CENTRELINK PAYMENTS AND PAYING THEM WEEKLY
    MAKING HOSPITALS, GP VISITS AND MEDICINES FULLY GOVERNMENT FUNDED
    MAKING SCHOOL AND UNIVERSITY EDUCATION FULLY GOVERNMENT FUNDED
    MAKING CHILDCARE FOR WORKING PARENTS FULLY GOVERNMENT FUNDED
    MAKING AGED CARE AND RETIREMENT HOME FACILITIES AFFORDABLE
    ALL 457 VISAS WILL BE ABOLISHED
    Sorry, the Australian Peoples Party just lost me.

    Yes, it is very well to say that corporations will be taxed but ultimately we end up paying.

  162. ssr

    Of course you are going to get Communism promoted by Communists.

  163. Stimpson J. Cat

    Boys who don’t laugh along could become psychopaths.

    Beware the boy who laughs long alone.

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

  164. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Morro should be confronted like this fake soldier was:

    There’s a short list of questions that trip up any scoundrels posing as Army or R.A.A.F, but, given that this bloke was claiming to be a clearance diver, how does one detect a nautical scoundrel?

  165. max

    It seems that a stopped tram was the only thing that prevented another ‘footpath incident’ in Melbourne yesterday.

    That intersection is going to attract other copycats.

  166. Fergus

    “Don’t laugh along” …at what? Some people are just too stupid to laugh along with.
    (Roger’l fix the gramma up.☺)

  167. P

    Sorry, the Australian Peoples Party just lost me.

    Also,

    Roberta v Bill.

  168. Sorry, the Australian Peoples Party just lost me.

    What’s a “Prosperity Tax”?
    How does taxing prosperity bring about all the other promised goodies?
    Or do we get the promised goodies first (prosperity) then pay half of it back as tax?
    All sounds a bit like a South Australian energy policy.

  169. Senile Old Guy

    The penny drops at their ABC:

    Same-sex marriage: Under-the-radar no voters could impact postal survey

    Politicians, advertising and large rallies have made up a big part of the same-sex marriage campaign to date, but certain community groups flying under the radar may also have an impact on the postal survey. The “silent” No voters are sticking to their own communities and common meeting places like markets, churches, and restaurants and their inconspicuous campaigning could sway the results. The ABC spoke to No campaigners in three of those groups about how they are pushing the No vote.

    Koreans

    Luke Song, who migrated to Australia from South Korea 35 years ago, believes a lot of Koreans will vote no but he wants to be sure so he has been campaigning. “We’re just talking and spreading our message through people, through SMS, or emails, or talks or [in restaurants],” he said. “The majority of Korean people are very conservative and they go to church so we think most of them are against same-sex marriage.

  170. Joe

    What’s a “Prosperity Tax”?

    It’s a leftist blind in an attempt to dilute the right vote.

  171. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    WORDS ARE HELL
    Tim Blair, The Daily Telegraph
    October 1, 2017 7:00am

    Decorated word warrior David Morrison, whose gallantry during the ferocious Battle of Semasiology Valley earned him a coveted Pansy Cluster, now runs something called the Diversity Council of Australia.

    The DCA apparently functions as a kind of freelance communications militia. Here’s how it works: if your office is being strafed by syllables, nailed by nouns or drilled in drive-by diphthong attacks, the DCA sends in a team of combat-hardened linguistic veterans to even the score.

    Of course, these high-risk services come at a price:

    Workplace diversity consultants are charging Australian companies up to $1800 an hour to warn employees about the dangers of using “non-inclusive” language such as “mum”.

    Former Labor leader Mark Latham slammed the Diversity Council of Australia’s “words at work” training program as “pathetic” on his Outsiders show on Wednesday night.

    The DCA, headed by former Australian of the Year David Morrison, charges $2500 for members or $3600 for non-members for a two-hour program delivered by “experienced DCA staff and consultants” to educate companies about “the power of words”.

    If you’re lucky, maybe none other than General “Racially-Diversified Blood and Non-Gender Specific Guts” Morrison himself will turn up to disarm your kitchen:

    From Tim Blair – You couldn’t make this shyte up, honestly.

  172. Zatara

    – INCREASING WORKERS’ ANNUAL INCOME​S
    ​- INCREASING CENTRELINK PAYMENTS AND PAYING THEM WEEKLY
    – MAKING HOSPITALS, GP VISITS AND MEDICINES FULLY GOVERNMENT FUNDED
    – MAKING SCHOOL AND UNIVERSITY EDUCATION FULLY GOVERNMENT FUNDED
    – MAKING CHILDCARE FOR WORKING PARENTS FULLY GOVERNMENT FUNDED

    They forgot to mention changing the national letterhead to read ‘Socialist Commonwealth of Australia’.

  173. Fergus

    The APP are like the Labor person who didn’t know that if I sold things at only cost price, I couldn’t pay the staff – or anything else, including tax. True story, sadly.

  174. Dr Fred Lenin

    Reading Melbourne Pravda,see the poofter “marriage” u.n.communists . .are preparing for defeat in the stupid gutless ABS “survey” , “other factors are being introduced by the No extreme right wingers ,( Real Australians ,with morals and a brain ). No doubt about those u.n.commos. Never short of excuses for defeat . The gutless ruddbull mob should have held a referendum , that is binding ,no way for the sleazy law trade failures ,in career politics to impose their will on the majority illegally.

  175. Tel

    It’s a leftist blind in an attempt to dilute the right vote.

    You cannot dilute a voting bloc in a preferential ballot system. Get out some paper and try a few numbers to see how it comes out.

    You can fool people into letting parties allocate their preferences for them, which is just a way for the voter to be lazy, but if that’s what they want to do… so be it.

  176. Snoopy

    I hope you’re right, Fred and ‘No’ will get up. But I doubt it.

  177. struth

    I wouldn’t be good enough to fit in. It’s not ‘our’ game anymore. It’s ‘You’re privileged to be allowed to slink in our shadow. Scum.’

    And pay them, through ticket and tax.

    Having been part of disaster relief as a truck driver, it is a real learning curve.
    Not for me, but fore those waiting for their supplies.
    All of a sudden truckies are the most important people on the planet.
    And trains are at the train station!
    All of a sudden people understand how the world works outside their bubble.
    (This doesn’t last that long in the heads of most , but still)

    If this country continues along it’s corporate, big company, big union way, there will come a time any area having politicians not conforming with the agenda of the Left, will see the TWU, pull the same stunt after a flood or fire, and there won’t be a single owner driver left to oppose them.

  178. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4936754/Wives-men-jailed-rape-blame-victims-too.html#ixzz4uDlkxmdC

    “White girls are filthy.” Strange, weren’t we gravely assured Islam was the “most feminist of religions?”

  179. struth

    The “silent” No voters are sticking to their own communities and common meeting places like markets, churches, and restaurants and their inconspicuous campaigning could sway the results.

    Don’t you love their little collectivist minds.

    There is no such thing as an individual, or individual decision making.
    Always “groups” and people being “swayed”.

  180. Gab

    ‘No’ will get up. But I doubt it.

    Even if the ‘no’ vote comes in at 90%, the result has already been decided by the ABS and the government. It’s a ‘yes’, peeps, that will be the “result”. Can anyone prove otherwise after the votes have be counted? No.

  181. ZK2A;
    The Peoples Party looks like it has a Communist Agenda.

  182. struth

    I would like to also add that it is interesting to see the figure 74% being trotted out by the left.

    I told you it wouldn’t be 75% because they want to make it look real but unarguable.

  183. struth

    The people’s party are socialists/communists.

    Cuba’s welfare state.

  184. Nick

    Just a thought. Lots of NRL GF tickets going begging (my neighbour just offered me 2), gay activists bring rainbow flags in, lots of media coverage, looks like a Yes event.

  185. min

    I had a client years ago ,before Viet vets were allowed to march , who claimed to be one , ran some sort of association and had set up a museum . It must have been before PTSD was recognised as a mental health problem. Anyway turned out to be all fantasy.

  186. the result has already been decided by the ABS and the government

    Of this, I have no doubt.

  187. Muddy

    government-approved deradicalisation programs

    ‘Deradicalisation’ is based on the premise that all of these people begin from a point of purity and light. They are as ‘normal’ as you and I. Yet somewhere along the way, an impersonal influence beyond their control drags them kicking and screaming, against their will, from a position of normality to abnormality, or ‘radicalisation.’ Society, therefore, owes them recompense for allowing this to happen, for it is the state, and all other individuals aside from themselves, that is responsible for leading them astray. So ‘the state’ and the society which failed them so badly, will now prostrate itself at their feet and beg for forgiveness.

  188. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    ZK2A;
    The Peoples Party looks like it has a Communist Agenda.

    Looking at their website, you are right.

  189. Hydra

    Wtf, notafan?

    The People’s Party policy list looks like a modern Nazi party sans aryanism.

  190. ssr

    So any minute now the cat will keep to its long tradition and re-name a regular, “Commie APP”.

  191. min

    New Yes ad out based on fairness. That is being taught as kids that you must be fair and kid pouring out equal amount of orange juice in glasses..
    Anyone have the experience of a kid having a hissy fit because the slice of cake or whatever was not equal ? Guess what they grow up demanding life should be fair and people should be fair when in reality life is not always fair and people are not always fair either. This is a better life lesson to learn rather than demanding and bullying to get your own way.
    Of course this does not mean not working to make things better such as when female lawyers and psychologists worked to change judges’ attitudes re rape victims.

  192. ssr

    Hydra
    #2511749, posted on October 1, 2017 at 2:33 pm

    Wtf, notafan?

    The People’s Party policy list looks like a modern Nazi party sans aryanism.

    Don’t forget the Underworld Mass Murderer’s Mole connection.

    Gangland widow Roberta Williams looking to run for Parliament – ABC
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-08-28/gangland-widow-roberta-williams…/8848540

    Aug 27, 2017 – Roberta Williams has been chosen as the Australian People’s Party candidate for Mr Shorten’s seat of Maribyrnong in Melbourne, but her status …

  193. government-approved deradicalisation programs

    I guess that does no include program #308 or program #303.

    FFS, these guys are terrorists or potential terrorists.

  194. Muddy

    From Fergus’s link above, regarding ‘tiny’ bone fragments allegedly from the bodies of indigenous people ‘massacred’ in the Kimberly:
    However Professor Fitzpatrick concluded the bones had been burnt in an extremely intense fire, within the range of more than 600 degrees Celsius for more than 80 hours, or more than 800 degrees Celsius for more than an hour — much hotter than any a regular scrub fire or hearth fire.

    Serious question: What would it take to develop that type of heat (and presumably keep it at that temperature, so it must have been confined somehow) in 1922? (The allegation is that the police or other non-indigenous community members burned the bodies).

  195. Hydra

    Oh no. That 15 year-old who got trapped under 100kgs in a Brisbane gym has died.

    I thought gyms were limited to over 16s for this reason.

    But I’m not a gym person so I don’t know.

  196. At least a vote conducted by the AEC has scrutineers.

  197. Hydra

    As I asked yesterday, how many of the top management (in any sporting code) have actually played in their code at top level?

    Demetriou played for North Melbourne for quite a while.

    Look what happened to the AFL.

    Next idea please.

  198. notafan

    Wtf, notafan?

    The People’s Party policy list looks like a modern Nazi party sans aryanism.

    sorry if people missed the sarc in ‘a party we can all get behind’

    Or decided because narrative that I was sincerely recommending a free stuff for everyone party because that would be consistent (not) with my long held positions on child care funding, university funding, pension funding, taxation etc.

  199. notafan

    Though seeing Roberta beat Bill would be entertaining.

  200. 800 degrees Celsius for more than an hour

    Dry hardwood with a hot wind(O2) will do that.
    Way south in Victoristan bushfires will do that.

  201. notafan

    I’m also a declared paid up member of Australian Conservatives

    Please keep going mr try hard loser.

  202. Snoopy

    What would it take to develop that type of heat (and presumably keep it at that temperature, so it must have been confined somehow) in 1922? (The allegation is that the police or other non-indigenous community members burned the bodies).

    Coal, And lots of it.

    🙂

  203. Hydra

    sorry if people missed the sarc in ‘a party we can all get behind’

    Or decided because narrative that I was sincerely recommending a free stuff for everyone party because that would be consistent (not) with my long held positions on child care funding, university funding, pension funding, taxation etc.

    Yes, definitely missed it…still hungover. Carry on.

  204. notafan

    It was intended for a little Sunday arvo entertainment…

  205. ssr

    Joe Dan Gorman Retweeted
    James Woods‏Verified account @RealJamesWoods 10h10 hours ago

    When a lover of cop killers sits on his worthless ass during our national anthem,
    you have to wonder how we got here. And then there is this

    https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/914197864406020096
    ______________________________________________________

    It’s becoming pretty obvious that the UN/Commies have given up pretending that they aren’t Communists hell bent on putting the world under their Dictatorship, and have just moved on to the blatant (lie), “There’s more of us than you.You can’t stop us. “Communism Will Win’, so you may as well just give up and work with us or be unpersoned.”
    You know, that desperate sort of lie of those with nothing else up their sleeve.

  206. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Was this one of the reports of massacres mentioned in earlier discussions?
    http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/techandscience/aboriginal-massacre-sites-uncovered-in-first-forensic-science-study/ar-AAsGpSy?li=AAgfYrC&ocid=mailsignout

    No. Don’t get me wrong, there should be forensic investigation of “massacres”, but when you consider “Forrest River”, where “maybe two, maybe three hundred people were shot and burned” was investigated by the police and a Royal Commission, and the only forensic evidence were some bones that couldn’t even be identified as human: “Mistake Creek” – carried out by a man who had been dead for two years at the time or “Bedford Downs”, where the “eyewitness” who “saw the fires and counted the bodies” was fifty miles away at the time, then something more than oral history is required.

  207. OneWorldGovernment

    Muddy
    #2511754, posted on October 1, 2017 at 2:37 pm

    From Fergus’s link above, regarding ‘tiny’ bone fragments allegedly from the bodies of indigenous people ‘massacred’ in the Kimberly:
    However Professor Fitzpatrick concluded the bones had been burnt in an extremely intense fire, within the range of more than 600 degrees Celsius for more than 80 hours, or more than 800 degrees Celsius for more than an hour — much hotter than any a regular scrub fire or hearth fire.

    Serious question: What would it take to develop that type of heat (and presumably keep it at that temperature, so it must have been confined somehow) in 1922? (The allegation is that the police or other non-indigenous community members burned the bodies).

    Muddy

    The person is talking crap because as Incoherent says above 800C is easy to obtain and depending on initial fuel load and burn characteristics it could get hotter.

    They found the evidence they were looking for so QED. Massacre.

    What I haven’t seen yet is if the bone fragments are even human!

  208. twostix

    Same-sex marriage: Under-the-radar no voters could impact postal survey

    ABC attempting to gin up a pogrom against Korean and Maronite Christian immigrants.

  209. zyconoclast

    Roger
    #2511658, posted on October 1, 2017 at 11:57 am
    The New Totalitarians

    Thanks.

  210. Muddy

    Since my ego didn’t get the undiluted praise it expected (deserved, even), on the Children’s Books thread (uncultured bastards), it blackmailed me to repost its grateness here:

    To show one has value to the people that matter
    said the catter who natters as his family splatters
    strike a pose I suppose and pretend that your nose
    doesn’t detect or reject the eject that flows
    from one’s own moronity
    (that’s a word, though absurd):
    a silly fragility to reality that shows
    to all but oneself (an A.L.F. without stealth),
    a chump with a hump,
    a lump of a dump,
    (certainly no Trump)
    all hail, prevail,
    set sail to Greatness,
    it’s late, yes,
    but fate yet,
    stands, yes STANDS,
    for Pride
    (no rhymes this time),
    Dignity, and
    Self Respect.
    We spit on ourselves when we
    spit on others.
    (Recycling bodily fluids is NOT the next ‘thing’).

  211. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Tens of thousands of people have marched in Dublin to demand the loosening of some of the strictest abortion laws in the world ahead of a 2018 referendum on the issue.

  212. twostix

    New Yes ad out based on fairness. That is being taught as kids that you must be fair and kid pouring out equal amount of orange juice in glasses..

    Lol yessers are treated like and behave exactly like children.

    Their arguments are childish their optics and language is childish and their debating behaviour is childish, to wit:

    “It’s about equality freedom and love and rainbows”
    “What about three people who love each other?”
    “They will remain banned bigot!”
    “So it not about love and equality?”
    “Reeeeeee!”

  213. Marcus Classis

    I thought gyms were limited to over 16s for this reason.

    They are at least in commercial gyms and military gyms (military family kiods are allowed, but must be under direct parental supervision at all times). The death occurred at the Pine Rivers PCYC.

    I do not know what their rules are.

  214. DrBeauGan

    Winston Smith
    #2511688, posted on October 1, 2017 at 12:42 pm
    ZK2A;

    Good point. How do you run a hospital where it’s the will of Allah if the patient kicks the bucket?

    I watched a Saudi doc utterly stuff up a cardiac arrest in Riyadh.
    He wouldn’t listen to the female nurses who could have taught him something, and he wouldn’t use the correct drugs.
    Then he told the rels that “Inshallah”

    He was right. It was the will of Allah that an incompetent fool who was too insecure to listen to women as a result of his religion was in charge. Allah doesn’t seem to like Muslims much. He kills them in earthquakes, too.

  215. stackja

    Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)
    #2511777, posted on October 1, 2017 at 3:10 pm
    Tens of thousands of people have marched in Dublin to demand the loosening of some of the strictest abortion laws in the world ahead of a 2018 referendum on the issue.

    Tens of thousands of people who weren’t aborted.

  216. struth
    #2511740, posted on October 1, 2017 at 2:10 pm
    The people’s party are socialists/communists.

    so no different to the Libs, ALP and Greens?

  217. Marcus Classis

    temps in fires including bushfires vary hugely. See here.

    Plenty of references to chase down for those so inclined

  218. Muddy

    OWG.
    Yup, I was wondering about the ‘not 100 percent certain they were human bone fragments’ also. Even if a miraculous find – say, a bullet embedded in an intact femur – was made, that still doesn’t (and will never) tell us who fired the said bullet. Or even if the femur belonged to an indigenous person. So it’s all wild speculation, but no doubt the People’s Propaganda Division will polish things up for wider consumption.

  219. Makka

    Switzerland’s legislature has voted to ban the foreign funding of mosques, including from Saudi Arabia, as well as to force mosques to use local languages instead of Arabic or other foreign tongues.

    Just common sense, so lacking in this country.

  220. zyconoclast

    Tens of thousands of people have marched in Dublin to demand the loosening of some of the strictest abortion laws in the world ahead of a 2018 referendum on the issue.

    Prediction: Same result as the other referendum. Same rent a mob crowd, just different t-shirts.

  221. zyconoclast

    Switzerland’s legislature has voted to ban the foreign funding of mosques, including from Saudi Arabia, as well as to force mosques to use local languages instead of Arabic or other foreign tongues.

    Just common sense, so lacking in this country.

    Except they are phasing out nuclear and going ruinables.

  222. Prediction: Same result as the other referendum. Same rent a mob crowd, just different t-shirts.

    Not quite. I’m sure there is great overlap, but many people who are pro-SS’M’ are also anti-abortion.

  223. You will notice also that the rhetoric of the pro-abort crowd is as childish as the SS’M’, to wit: Get your rosaries off our ovaries. Anti-abortionists aren’t worried about their ovaries, they’re worried about the child in the womb.

  224. Muddy

    Marcus Classis.
    Thanks, I checked out your link, but being a bit of a sci-tard, the big words began to hurt me after the first few paragraphs. I did learn there were different flame types though. It’s an interesting area, and I wish I was cognitively able to appreciate the information more.

  225. Muddy

    The closest PCYC gym here is 16+, but if you have a letter from a parent or guardian, you can be 15 and use the facilities. I had thought that the actual gym part of the PCYC was privatised, but I could be wrong. Locally, I mean.

  226. twostix

    Some ABC story had a weird caption on an image. It showed two lesbians and a kid (but of course as pictures of fags with children have been completely banned in this homo marriage campaign). Anyway the caption was “x and y don’t understand why Liberals are against them getting married”.

    There’s a feq ways to grok this:

    – Either x and y are dumb braineashed bigots and everyone they don’t like is a Liberal.
    – They are too stupid to know that Labor refused to pass fag marriage because the Labor base don’t like poofs at all.
    – They are willfully constructing a narrative for the bemefit of the ABC.

  227. temps in fires including bushfires vary hugely.

    After bushfire, these eyes have seen the molten blob of what was once a plough.
    Let me lookup the melting point of plough steel …

    Cast iron 1204C, Steel add a couple hundred degs

  228. Makka

    Except they are phasing out nuclear and going ruinables.

    Bringing back lots of hydro hopefully. It was once 95% of their energy needs.

  229. twostix

    Also lol at lesbians acting as the equivalent of the CWA tea ladies for their mens league lately.

    Never change ladies, hang around, your fag men are going to need you to clean up after too.

  230. Another group that will be heavily No is Philpinos. And active in campaigning quietly.

  231. Muddy

    So 800 degrees is not a particularly high temperature, and certainly not one that would have required human intervention? The hypothesis that for bones (IF they were human) to have been burned at this temperature automatically means that human intervention was required, and thus (take a leap with me here) indicates the intentional destruction of ‘evidence’ of wrongdoing, is pure bollocks?

  232. cohenite

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    #2511734, posted on October 1, 2017 at 2:01 pm

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4936754/Wives-men-jailed-rape-blame-victims-too.html#ixzz4uDlkxmdC

    “White girls are filthy.” Strange, weren’t we gravely assured Islam was the “most feminist of religions?”

    Islamic women are a large part of the problem. God’s Police and Damned Whores was written by that bitch Anne Summers about Christianity but it applies to islam as well.

  233. Marcus Classis

    Muddy
    #2511804, posted on October 1, 2017 at 3:50 pm
    So 800 degrees is not a particularly high temperature, and certainly not one that would have required human intervention? The hypothesis that for bones (IF they were human) to have been burned at this temperature automatically means that human intervention was required, and thus (take a leap with me here) indicates the intentional destruction of ‘evidence’ of wrongdoing, is pure bollocks?

    Yup. Junk science. Total cobblers. And no way to see if the bones are human, they are calcined. No DNA left. Could be bone fragments from a roo caught in a bushfire.

  234. entropy

    Ag the seventies, the sort of thing that would get you locked up today.. Naughty ABBA1

  235. entropy

    Note the teacher’s shaky hands at the end!

  236. ssr

    “Magnanimous Panda” Diplomacy – Secretary Tillerson and Xi Jinping Hold Talks on North Korea…
    Posted on September 30, 2017 by sundance

    Ahead of an upcoming trip by President Donald Trump, and against the backdrop of economic sanctions by Trump/Mnuchin and the U.N. toward North Korea, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson works on the “Magnanimous Panda”* strategy within the Trump Doctrine.

    The ‘Big Picture’ goal is for China to accept responsibility, publicly, for spearheading the denuclearizing program within an established “six party talk” framework. China ultimately becoming the guarantor of a denuclearized DPRK, and President Trump stroking the Panda Fur (praise) while simultaneously controlling the amount of bamboo in the Beijing forest. So far, things are proceeding swimmingly.

    BEIJING (Reuters)* – Chinese President Xi Jinping offered warm words for U.S. President Donald Trump on Saturday, calling him a friend and saying he expected Trump’s visit to China in November would be “wonderful”.

    *Continue reading →
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/09/30/magnanimous-panda-diplomacy-secretary-tillerson-and-xi-jinping-hold-talks-on-north-korea/

    Tillerson Meets Top Chinese Leaders in Beijing
    Associated Press
    Sep 30, 2017
    Secretary of State Rex Tillerson is meeting with Chinese leaders for discussions on trade and North Korea. He is calling for a calming of the situation on the Korean Peninsula. (Sept. 30)

  237. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Muddy
    #2511804, posted on October 1, 2017 at 3:50 pm
    So 800 degrees is not a particularly high temperature, and certainly not one that would have required human intervention? The hypothesis that for bones (IF they were human) to have been burned at this temperature automatically means that human intervention was required, and thus (take a leap with me here) indicates the intentional destruction of ‘evidence’ of wrongdoing, is pure bollocks?

    Rod Moran is a Western Australian journalist who has written books and articles questioning the authenticity of the frontier massacres. He cites a forensic specialist in Melbourne as saying ” it was impossible for an open air cremation to destroy all evidence of the human origin of bone material. He shows that, for a wood fire to consume an average adult male human body in open air, it would require two and a half tons of timber over four hours, but even then the teeth and parts of the skull would survive.”

  238. Marcus Classis

    Dr BG:

    I watched a Saudi doc utterly stuff up a cardiac arrest in Riyadh.
    He wouldn’t listen to the female nurses who could have taught him something, and he wouldn’t use the correct drugs.
    Then he told the rels that “Inshallah”

    Provided only that the bucket-kicker was a Saudi, it’s a straight DILLIGAF situation. That’s a land of savages run by savages for savages. They’d riding camels and raping goats if not for the oil, which they could not even find and pump themselves. The sooner it runs out and they go back to being goat-herding dune creepers, the better for humanity.

    I’ve lost too many acquaintances to the wahabi and salafi scumbags the Saudi’s fund to give a damn about them.

  239. Muddy

    Thanks Marcus. I could see how others might be impressed by the hollow argument though. Impressed enough to deliver monetary compensation to relatives, that is. Based on speculation. But then, ‘speculation’ is only six letters longer than ‘truth.’ Same-same.

  240. Gab

    There are more holes in that Abo “massacre” story than in monty’s lunchtime donuts.

    Those

    Cutting edge forensic science techniques

    mentioned in the story must be from the 1950s.

  241. Muddy

    That’s interesting, thanks Zulu. That’s what I meant earlier by using the word ‘confined’. I wondered if an open-air fire where the heat would dissipate would be enough to incinerate human remains. Not that I’m planning that anytime soon (there’s still space in the forest).

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