Monday Forum: October 2, 2017

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  1. Boambee John

    dover_beach
    #2513273, posted on October 3, 2017 at 9:57 am
    You know, the truly astonishing thing about this claim that children don’t need their natural parents, is that the occurs less than twenty years after the decade-long furor of the Stolen Generations.

    So next time we hear about “the tragedy of the Stolen Generation” we can quote the Chief Justice of the Family Court as a refutation?

    No? Shut up because? That’s different?

  2. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From C.L. at 9:28 am:

    “Australia’s chief Family ‘Court’ judge: children do not need parents.

    Family Court judge enters same-sex debate.

    Children need to be raised in an environment where they are ­surrounded by happy, loving ­relationships, and it does not ­matter whether their parents are of the same sex or heterosexual, says the nation’s most senior ­family law judge.

    Family Court Chief Justice Diana Bryant … said what children needed most was to be surrounded by ­stable, functional relationships. … “It ­really doesn’t matter who their parents are as long as they have all of those aspects, and if they do, there is absolutely no reason why there should be any discrimination in my view.

    “What you don’t want children to have is to be living in a confected, dysfunctional relationship — whether it is two parents of the same sex, or two heterosexual people.””

    From a judge, a chief judge, who is ostensibly as Caesar’s wife, unassailable, objective, wise, measured. Seventeen years a judge and the stupid cow has learned so little. How’s that prejudice and ignorant bias working out for you, girlie?

    But no, the ever so capable wymminses, with their superior composure and highly tuned humanity, dancing above the mythical glass ceiling, have scored three times already today:

    In the Australian – it sounds like someone enjoyed being The Big Man giving orders for a very short while:

    “The AFL’s first female club chief executive was yesterday forced out of her job after just four months.

    Former world-class cyclist ­Tracey Gaudry took up her position at the Hawthorn club in June after leaving a role with Athletics Australia.

    According to Hawthorn insiders, Ms Gaudry’s communications skills internally and management style at the club were considered poor [she’s only like, you know, 48 years old]. It is believed she failed to ­engage at the level required with senior managers and did not form staff relationships, including with the all-important football department. …”

    Among the reader comments I see this:

    “At a breakfast conference held with a former Chairman of a major 4 bank, when quizzed about a recent board appointment who wasn’t a female responded that even after their best efforts both in Australia and overseas, and even when they come close, they couldn’t find the most qualified person for the job of the female persuasion.

    Did the feminist berate him….absolutely…….but , his very logical response to them was that company board positions are not training grounds……people in these positions must hit the ground running, and ready to make strategic, high profile decisions. Darwinian theory, survival of the fittest.

    Feminist especially in the public service, and activist feminists Groups could never understand this, and never will as they are driven by ideology, not common sense……..but for the sake of shareholders, a chairman must.”

    Strike Three – srr was onto this before breakfast, then notafan – is a fine example of first class stupidity worthy of a 16 year old school girl who just hates Daddy and the awful USA under Herr Trump:

    “CBS has parted ways with a legal executive (Hayley Geftman-Gold, 40 years old, was a senior VP and corporate counsel no less) that drew the ire of conservative media channels for commenting on Facebook that, following the mass shooting at a country music concert in Las Vegas on Sunday night, she is “not sympathetic” because “country music fans often are Republican gun toters.”

    The executive, Hayley Geftman-Gold, wrote the comment in a discussion thread that was later deleted.

    CBS, following outrage about her comments, released the following statement Monday: “This individual, who was with us for approximately one year, violated the standards of our company and is no longer an employee of CBS. Her views as expressed on social media are deeply unacceptable to all of us at CBS. Our hearts go out to the victims in Las Vegas and their families.”

    Referring to congressional Republicans, Geftman-Gold also wrote, “If they wouldn’t do anything when children were murdered I have no hope that Repugs will ever do the right thing.””

    Prissy Missy is surely going to need Daddy now, to help her through her extended salary free phase.

  3. struth

    Family Court Chief Justice Diana Bryant, who has presided over many hundreds of disputes involving broken families in her 17-year career as a family law judge, said what children needed most was to be surrounded by ­stable, functional relationships. “What you want for children is a stable, loving and ­caring relationship in which they are brought up,” she told The Australian. “It ­really doesn’t matter who their parents are as long as they have all of those aspects, and if they do, there is absolutely no reason why there should be any discrimination in my view.

    You guys already covered the “stolen generations” angle.
    So she is a racist as well.

    I wonder how much heartache this dumb bint has inflicted in 17 years.
    The blood of male suicides on her hands, is a given.

    A real piece of shit.

  4. cynical1

    Bolt goes gun control:

    Opponents of gun control say guns don’t kill, people do. The next time you hear someone say that, play them this video from the Las Vegas massacre. Make them hear the chatter of fire from automatic weapons and then count the dead. No man with a knife or even just a handgun could kill 59 people in just a few minutes. Guns help kill faster.

    Yes,well it worked at the Batacalan.

    Oh hang on.

    I don’t think most lunatics who source weapons are worried about OHSS laws.

    Western Sydney has plenty of shooting going on.

    And Australians are some of the most gun free people in the World.

    Well, the law abiding Australians.

  5. notafan

    No man with a knife or even just a handgun could kill 59 people in just a few minutes.

    So what ?

    The man was shooting from the 32nd floor of a building 150 to 200 metres away. Gun laws are immaterial, mass murderers with mayhem on their minds will find a way, he coulda got a Kenworth or build a bomb. Do people just ignore the wave of non gun related terror attacks that have recently occurred in Europe. The terrorist in Nice killed 83, is that like whatever?

  6. pete m

    DB, for some children the safest place is far far away from their natural parents. Almost anyone else would be safer for them. In those limited cases disturbing the natural order of things is required.

    The family court starts with the premise a child should live with its natural born parents, then goes from there if that is unsafe / impossible.

    This public comment is just a little pc bs to say how pc they are.

  7. srr

    Christi 🇺🇸‏ @greeneyedlucy84 51m51 minutes ago

    This is what a 23 weeker looks like. GTFOH with your #NoAbortionBan

    https://twitter.com/greeneyedlucy84/status/914994441584332800

  8. Boambee John

    Any Catholic who obstinately denies that abortion is always gravely immoral, commits the sin of heresy and incurs an automatic sentence of excommunication

    So Turnbull, Shorten and similar have been excommunicated?

  9. Infidel Tiger

    No man with a knife or even just a handgun could kill 59 people in just a few minutes.

    A man with a truck killed 84 in Nice you fucking stupid xunt.

  10. struth

    You can guarantee that if the Las Vegas shooter was in Trump’s campaign team, the FBI would know everything about him before he even decided to purchase a weapon.

    The length of time taken for the information to come out about a dead man on the scene, ……………well, let’s just remember the A.C.L bombing.

    A country music concert?
    I don’t know much about things there but I can bet the Dixie Chicks weren’t playing.

  11. notafan

    So Turnbull, Shorten and similar have been excommunicated

    ?

    Shorten converted to Anglicanism when he married his second wife but yes it is automatic self excommunication for anyone claiming to be a Catholic.

  12. srr

    Modern Times: Camille Paglia & Jordan B Peterson
    Jordan B Peterson
    Oct 2, 2017
    Dr. Camille Paglia is a well-known American intellectual and social critic. She has been a professor at the University of the Arts in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania (where this discussion took place) since 1984. She is the author of seven books focusing on literature, visual art, music, and film history, among other topics. The most well-known of these is Sexual Personae (http://amzn.to/2xVGEEV), an expansion of her highly original doctoral thesis at Yale. The newest, Free Women, Free Men: Sex, Gender, Feminism, was published by Pantheon Books in March 2017 (http://amzn.to/2hGycTG).

    Dr. Paglia has been warning about the decline and corruption of the modern humanities for decades, and she is a serious critic of the postmodern ethos that currently dominates much of academia. Although she is a committed equity feminist, she firmly opposes the victim/oppressor narrative that dominates much of modern American and British feminism.

    In this wide-ranging discussion, we cover (among other topics) the pernicious influence of the French intellectuals of the 1970’s on the American academy, the symbolic utility of religious tradition, the tendency toward intellectual conformity and linguistic camouflage among university careerists, the under-utilization of Carl Jung and his student, Erich Neumann, in literary criticism and the study of the humanities, and the demolition of the traditional roles and identity of men and women in the West.

  13. H B Bear

    Did the feminist berate him….absolutely…….but , his very logical response to them was that company board positions are not training grounds……people in these positions must hit the ground running, and ready to make strategic, high profile decisions. Darwinian theory, survival of the fittest.

    You mean like the Fauxfacts board and management which missed every industry shift in the last 30 years with the exception of Domain?

    Football clubs are nothing like Olympic sports – at the end of the year everyone can see how you did. Olympic sports foundations are like being a Mainland Tasmanian premier, your main job is lobbying the Federal government for money and every four years your continued under-performance is shown and then the cycle repeats itself.

  14. Infidel Tiger

    Is thick as a plank Bolt aware that the weaponry used in Vegas was all illegal?

    He threw Pell under the bus for the mob and is now doing the same here.

  15. C.L.

    You know, the truly astonishing thing about this claim that children don’t need their natural parents, is that the occurs less than twenty years after the decade-long furor of the Stolen Generations.

    Indeed.

  16. Infidel Tiger

    Actually, if you want change then now is exactly the time to talk gun control – while the consequences of selling rapid-fire guns are so inescapable.

    The guns were all illegal, thicko.

  17. C.L.

    They’re now saying the shooter had 30 rifles.
    I find it hard to believe an accountant purchased them all from Mexicans out of a car boot.
    So there are some questions here about acquisition and policy.

  18. Boambee John

    “The AFL’s first female club chief executive was yesterday forced out of her job after just four months.

    Former world-class cyclist ­Tracey Gaudry took up her position at the Hawthorn club in June after leaving a role with Athletics Australia.

    This is what I meant when I asked about sports “executives” whose connection to the sport they administer is indirect (at best).

    Fairly confident she has not played AFL or VFL at top level.

  19. Joe

    This is what I meant when I asked about sports “executives” whose connection to the sport they administer is indirect (at best).

    Why is there even a sports “executive”. Return all sports to amateur status and ban making money from sport.

  20. H B Bear

    Why is there even a sports “executive”. Return all sports to amateur status and ban making money from sport.

    LOL good luck with that one. Live sports is about the only thing that keeps most media companies afloat. Each game has more in common with an episode of Big Brother or The Bachelor than the underlying amateur sport.

  21. notafan

    Isis connection gets very warm:

    Marilou Danley’s facebook page was still open last night, unless she is in very deep cover she is not a muslim, statistically most likely a nomimal Catholic.

    She certainly went to a lot of great shows in Vegas in the last few years.

  22. lotocoti

    They’re now saying the shooter had 30 rifles.

    So what?

  23. Ez

    Actually, if you want change then now is exactly the time to talk gun control – while the consequences of selling rapid-fire guns are so inescapable.

    Does Andrew think the Poms should ban acid in the UK?

  24. Lysander

    Woke up this morning to find twitter has suspended my account… the only “contentious” thing I tweeted that maybe could’ve blocked me was that Israeli Radio reported shooter as “Samir.” And my tweet just said “is this for real?” Are twitter that soft? WTF is going on?

  25. Infidel Tiger

    Rita Panahi @RitaPanahi
    Americans don’t like being lectured to but something needs to be done about availability of automatic weapons.

    Another densely stupid Australian “conservative”.

  26. feelthebern

    How do we show our support for Vegas?
    What’s the meme?
    An aged, tattooed hooker?
    Lines of coke?

  27. Des Deskperson

    I’ve just seen the ACT government’s much hyped, taxpayer funded ‘Rainbow’ Transport for Canberra bus which is supposed to demonstrate that government’s support for SSM.

    I was a little puzzled. For starters, the bus doesn’t actually say anything about SSM, it’s just a horizontally-striped bus with the ‘Canberra Living Together’ logo.

    Secondly, it was operating on a rather obscure route, the number 1, which drifts around the inner north and south where any, err, right-thinking person would already be pro-SSM. So far as I know, it hasn’t run on any of the main arterial routes where it would get a lot of profile, nor has it been sent down to Tuggers to taunt the homophobic bogans.

    So while the Labor/Greens ACT government has been relentlessly virtue-signalling its compassion and commitment to human rights, its practical efforts seem to be little, well, half-arsed, particularly as the few rainbow flags that were being flown have been replaced by Florida banners. You have to wonder whether the government, increasingly on the nose for its links to developers and its ‘tram’, is having, as they say, a bet each way.

  28. JC

    Rita should have stopped right here.

    Americans don’t like being lectured to

  29. C.L.

    I think there’s a middle way between Howardian bed-wetting and a regime that allows fruitcakes to rock up to a gun shop and purchase 50 rifles.

  30. Boambee John

    Rita Panahi @RitaPanahi
    Americans don’t like being lectured to but something needs to be done about availability of automatic weapons.

    Could someone on Twitter please inform Ms P that civilian ownership of fully automatic weapons has been illegal in the US since the 1930s.

  31. Infidel Tiger

    Rita and her fauxservative posse of dim bulbs couldn’t give a rats about the facts.

  32. Tracey

    It seems somehow disrespectful to be feeling so sad about a musician on such an awful day for the US, but damn I love Tom Petty. He was the first artist I ever got seriously into as a teenager and I still watch and listen to him now. What a performer and songwriter and he never shied away from standing up for what he believed, several times at enormous cost to himself.

  33. Joe

    I think there’s a middle way between Howardian bed-wetting and a regime that allows fruitcakes to rock up to a gun shop and purchase 50 rifles.

    BZZZT wrong! Automatic weapons are ALREADY illegal in USA for most people. Can be obtained legally at expense and with the CONSENT of the state’s attorney general.

    You can purchase 50 rifles, but NONE of them will be automatic.

    Regardless, this will not stop people who want to kill. They will find a way.

  34. Infidel Tiger

    Rita also thinks abortion is horrible but perfectly legit in the first trimester.

    So I think we can completely discount anything she says about murderous weapons.

  35. JC

    CL

    I know what you mean, but even if you imposed Howard like gun control in the US… even if it was there prior to the incident… the mass shooting would still have occurred.

    The market in Australia has seen prices drop for illegal guns.

  36. feelthebern

    Surprised Kap hasn’t been more vocal considering he went to school there.

    https://twitter.com/kaepernick7?lang=en

  37. lotocoti

    Could someone on Twitter please inform Ms P that civilian ownership of fully automatic weapons has been illegal in the US since the 1930s.

    It’s not illegal to own automatic weapons made prior to 1986.
    However ownership is highly regulated.

  38. DB, for some children the safest place is far far away from their natural parents. Almost anyone else would be safer for them. In those limited cases disturbing the natural order of things is required.

    I don’t doubt this is true. But the presumption must always be that the child belongs with its parents, and that the latter are obliged to take care of their child.

    The family court starts with the premise a child should live with its natural born parents, then goes from there if that is unsafe / impossible.

    Does it? If the words of the Chief Justice are to be believed, this doesn’t appear to be the case. Is this presumption reflected in the FLA, etc?

  39. struth

    Could someone on Twitter please inform Ms P that civilian ownership of fully automatic weapons has been illegal in the US since the 1930s.

    When you outlaw guns, only outlaws have them.
    If the guns the shooter used were banned the anti gun left will fall flat on their faces.
    It won’t stop them, they’ll just scream louder.

  40. C.L.

    You can purchase 50 rifles, but NONE of them will be automatic.

    Which is why I wrote … “rifles.”
    And can we cut the crap about autos vs. semi-autos?
    The latter still allow a madman to slaughter dozens of people in minutes.
    Can’t do that with your father’s old 4-10.

    Regardless, this will not stop people who want to kill. They will find a way.

    That’s like saying we should legalise drink-driving because people will still find a way to crash cars.

  41. Joe

    Personally, I think the reason for these killings is basically, mind your own business.
    In may cases, the perp. was driven to it by unwarranted intrusion into their private affairs. Modern politics is too intrusive and causes too many abrasions with one’s associates because it has become a zero sum game. Winner takes all.

  42. lotocoti

    Only yesterday a Cat posted a vid. of some blokes cutting loose with a STG44.

  43. GPs endorse homosexual ‘marriage’ after bullying

    Can you imagine the regime of bullying that will be instituted as a matter of law and policy if the Yes vote is triumphant.

  44. feelthebern

    Wasn’t Rita involved with Monty?
    That explains a lot if true.

  45. Chris

    The market in Australia has seen prices drop for illegal guns.

    Not sure this is right. I don’t have special insight to black markets, I just used to hold a strong position they should exist. But the guns in demand are unlicensed modern pistols which are reported to fetch around $4000+ but legal buyers pay $400-1800 depending on model and condition. The ‘easier to find’ illegal longarms were often picked up in bikie raids but are mostly not being traded at big dollars as far as we can tell, because they are less useful for criminals. They are being stolen to order for drug dealers, but demand is not so great as for pistols.

  46. Joe

    That’s like saying we should legalise drink-driving because people will still find a way to crash cars.

    No. That’s like saying we should ban cars, because cars kill.

  47. Ez

    “It ­really doesn’t matter who their parents are as long as they have all of those aspects, and if they do, there is absolutely no reason why there should be any discrimination in my view.

    This one person’s opinion aside, there is evidence to the contrary:

    Adoptive parents tend to be better-educated and put more effort into raising their kids, as measured by things like eating family meals together, providing the child with books, and getting involved in their schools.

    And yet, as rated by their teachers and tests, adopted children tend to have worse behavioral and academic outcomes in kindergarten and first grade than birth children do, according to a new research brief from the Institute for Family Studies written by psychologist Nicholas Zill.

    Any disruption to the biological family places difficulty on children (whether by parents’ choice or act of God).

    To say parents or family structure doesn’t matter is willfully ignorant.

  48. notafan

    In may cases, the perp. was driven to it by unwarranted intrusion into their private affairs.

    For real, planning and executing the shooting of hundreds of innocent people because ‘government interference’ is somehow excusable?

    Even if it were true, which you can’t possibly know, what the heck?

    Muslims say exactly the same thing about ‘government interference’ in their rape pillage of the ME or refusal to allow sharia.

    Just an another way of saying the person responsible is the real victim.

  49. Senile Old Guy

    Same-sex marriage: Religious exemptions bad for business, Australia’s reputation

    Some have argued businesses should be able to refuse services for same-sex marriages on religious grounds. There could be a case for religious institutions being exempt from participating in same-sex marriages. But what about private companies?Problems arise with exempting businesses from anti-discrimination laws by allowing them to refuse services for same-sex weddings. Such exemptions would harm the commercial reputations of Australia and its companies, and are not necessary for religious freedom.

    But, as indicated, providing services to same-sex couples does not violate any religious practice. And those services are not magically different merely because the recipient is in a same-sex relationship. So, even if religion is a relevant consideration, exemptions are unnecessary to protect it.

    The guy looks to be about 15 and has written a piece for Crikey called “How 18C actually protects free speech”.

  50. Chris

    Bolts bit is stupid. My comment:

    This evil is not at all unfathomable.
    Mass shootings are imitative crimes. They are taught by the media and partner activists. They are rewarded by the media, who with every one of these crimes write a blank check to the next perpetrator for as much publicity as they can deliver.

  51. Slayer of Memes

    Opponents of gun control say guns don’t kill, people do. The next time you hear someone say that, play them this video from the Las Vegas massacre. Make them hear the chatter of fire from automatic weapons and then count the dead. No man with a knife or even just a handgun could kill 59 people in just a few minutes. Guns help kill faster.

    Trucks are even faster (and more effective too).

    58 in Las Vegas by automatic weapons fire

    68 in Nice by a truck

    #BanUrbanAssaultVans #AutomaticTruckControlNOW

  52. Joe

    Yeah, I get you notafan. I’m just wondering if the added intrusion of politics into everyday decisions is a factor in this.

    Just because “muslims” say the same thing as others, does not make it automatically wrong.

    This is not to excuse perps., but you can’t help but wonder if the pressure is getting to people.

  53. Senile Old Guy

    It’s from the Grattan Institute, so you know the solution is more taxes.

    The equation doesn’t look pretty. Traffic congestion costs us billions of dollars each year — so we are told — and population growth is not letting up. When road rage meets large economic costs, it’s little wonder our politicians are desperate to do something. The trouble is, too often that “something” is a great big new freeway. Building more roads isn’t the best answer, because the roads we have are mostly up to the job — if only we could make better use of them by spreading traffic out beyond the morning and evening peaks.

    Okay, the problem is peak hour and the traffic should be spread out. How do we do that? This is the very next sentence:

    Instead of focusing on freeways, governments should change the way we pay for urban roads and public transport.

    How?

    Changing the way we use our existing infrastructure through pricing needs to be at the top of the agenda. This mean charging motorists for the congestion they cause. Sydney and Melbourne need to consider introducing a congestion charge. That doesn’t mean more toll roads — it means charging people who drive at peak times on congested roads a small fee.

    Many people already pay a large fee: income tax.

  54. notafan

    This is not to excuse perps., but you can’t help but wonder if the pressure is getting to people.

    There is no evidence that Stephen Paddock is under any sort of governmental pressure.

  55. Joe

    Many people already pay a large fee: income tax.

    And, car licence and driver licence and GST on cars and Duty on fuel and …

  56. Adoptive parents tend to be better-educated and put more effort into raising their kids, as measured by things like eating family meals together, providing the child with books, and getting involved in their schools.

    And yet, as rated by their teachers and tests, adopted children tend to have worse behavioral and academic outcomes in kindergarten and first grade than birth children do, according to a new research brief from the Institute for Family Studies written by psychologist Nicholas Zill.

    Any disruption to the biological family places difficulty on children (whether by parents’ choice or act of God).

    To say parents or family structure doesn’t matter is willfully ignorant.

    Indeed, but look at it from the point of view of the Chief Justice of the Family Court. She heads a legal regime that actually splits children from their parents in situations were there is no fault and where one of the spouses does not want to separate and divorce. You can imagine the revenge of conscience this situation entails.

  57. Dr Faustus

    Malcolm Turnbull’s deal with gas exporters fails to address sky-high prices, says MP Andrew Broad

    The West Australian policy reserves 15 per cent of a company’s total production for local use.

    Mr Broad said a similar limit on the east coast would drive prices down by adding an “oversupply” of gas to the domestic market, rather than just encouraging exporters to make gas available at a “world parity price”.

    If Andrew Broad had a vague understanding of the economics and reservoir issues of CSG production he would realise he is vigorously pumping Shorten’s tyres.

    The Queensland CSG producers could pledge 15% of their existing 2P reserves – the low permeability, high-cost-of-production 15% – and have no impact in the domestic gas market. The marginal cost of production/delivery of these tight gas reserves quickly exceeds the current domestic market price.

    The gas companies will no doubt today be explaining all this to Turnbull.

  58. Joe

    There is no evidence that Stephen Paddock is under any sort of governmental pressure.

    Indeed. It’s not government pressure. It’s political pressure from everyone around, to conform to their ideals. It’s SJW’s and anti-SJW’s. It’s not just the government that’s political.

  59. notafan

    Indeed. It’s not government pressure. It’s political pressure from everyone around, to conform to their ideals. It’s SJW’s and anti-SJW’s. It’s not just the government that’s political.

    Now you just a hot mess.

  60. Joe

    Now you just a hot mess.

    Not sure I follow you. But can you not feel the general pressure to conform being ratcheted up. It’s getting oppressive.

  61. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    58 in Las Vegas by automatic weapons fire

    68 in Nice by a truck

    86 In Nice.

  62. Viva

    Could someone on Twitter please inform Ms P that civilian ownership of fully automatic weapons has been illegal in the US since the 1930s.

    Could someone on this blog please explain to Boambe John how easy peasy it is to convert a semi automatic (which is legal in the US) into an automatic.

  63. Same-sex marriage: Religious exemptions bad for business, Australia’s reputation

    At least two unsubstantiated claims are made in that article, that religious exemptions are not necessary for bakers, florists, etc., and that business that have opposed SS’M’ have all suffered as a consequence. Firstly, they are and for the same reasons they’re provided to religious institutions, and secondly, Chick-fil-A.

  64. struth

    This is not to excuse perps., but you can’t help but wonder if the pressure is getting to people.

    It was a country music concert.
    It doesn’t matter if it’s not the truth that all country music fans are republicans.

    It matters that the easily brainwashed, insulated lefty has been told , and therefore believes, they are.

    I realise I am assuming a lot.
    However, the inability to gain any information on the motives of this by all the stunning powers and resources of the Law enforcement agencies is a ……………………………….

    Imagine if there were any links to right wing groups to be found.
    Think you wouldn’t know about it by now?

    If his cousin twice removed, had a friend who knew somebody who had listened to Trump speech on their car radio during the election, you’d now know about it.
    You will probably hear that he was a Russian operative upset that Trump denies collusion, and ultimately the entire cause of this was because someone wore budgie smugglers in Australia.

  65. Dr Faustus

    86 In Nice.

    And 450 injured.

  66. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Could someone on this blog please explain to Boambe John how easy peasy it is to convert a semi automatic (which is legal in the US) into an automatic.

    It’s not that easy at all.

  67. lotocoti

    how easy peasy it is to convert a semi automatic (which is legal in the US) into an automatic.

    Which is illegal.

  68. Chris

    Adoptive parents tend to be better-educated and put more effort into raising their kids, as measured by things like eating family meals together, providing the child with books, and getting involved in their schools.

    And yet, as rated by their teachers and tests, adopted children tend to have worse behavioral and academic outcomes in kindergarten and first grade than birth children do, according to a new research brief from the Institute for Family Studies written by psychologist Nicholas Zill.

    Well, the best adopted family I know fits both stories. The 2 kids came from an Asian orphanage, one is severely autistic and now at almost 30 years old is a continual worry from hassling girls and doing stupid shit. The other is fine as a person, but like most families with a severely handicapped person the other kids have problems too. But the parents! Wow, what great people delivering great support to their kids.

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    Sean Davis‏Verified account @seanmdav 12h12 hours ago
    More Sean Davis Retweeted Allahpundit
    Full auto require different trigger, hammer, sear, disconnector, bolt carrier. Not easy for any rando to fabricate.

    https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/914840955257270275

  70. Myrddin Seren

    Saw one of Sydney Uni’s ‘Unlearn Love‘ mini-billboards in the Sin City CBD yesterday.

    A couple of thoughts come to mind.

    This has nothing to do with enrolment or recruitment. Aspirational kids wanting a degree from Sydney Uni have been lining up to get in for decades. The Sydney CBD streets are filled with aspirational Asian-Australian kids – who would be storming Sydney Uni if it would get them in.

    For recruitment – see their website or Seek.com.au. As has been going on for decades.

    Plainly – it is conspicuous virtue signalling ( Thanks Taxpayer Suckers ) to a bunch of people who probably do not give a flying f**k about Sydney Uni’s conspicuous virtue. The average Sydney CBD office, retail or services worker is generally more focused on flat earnings, rising cost of living and over-crowded transport.

    So this is a subtle warning.

    Sydney Uni is saying –

    ‘We may not be able to openly exclude enrolees and employees on the basis of social and political conservatism. However, if you come to Sydney Uni with Wrongthink, we are going to ram tolerance, diversity and inclusion down your throat until you choke.

    Or to make it plain – take your conservatism elsewhere.’

    One expects the violence we have seen on campus in recent years will be allowed to escalate as part of purging regular folks from their Safe Space.

  71. C.L.

    At least two unsubstantiated claims are made in that article, that religious exemptions are not necessary for bakers, florists, etc., and that businesses that have opposed SS’M’ have all suffered as a consequence.

    Mmyes. Funny that.

  72. Senile Old Guy

    At least two unsubstantiated claims are made in that article, that religious exemptions are not necessary for bakers, florists, etc., and that business that have opposed SS’M’ have all suffered as a consequence. Firstly, they are and for the same reasons they’re provided to religious institutions, and secondly, Chick-fil-A.

    More than two, DB. It is a poorly argued piece. And, as you say, like many pieces on the ABC, it carefully omits the examples that disprove their arguments.

  73. Slayer of Memes

    I meant 86…

    damn dyslexic fingers…

  74. Hydra

    Many people already pay a large fee: income tax.

    And, car licence and driver licence and GST on cars and Duty on fuel and …

    This is the crux.

    I have zero issues with paying a congestion fee.

    But it must come with an equal and opposite reduction in other taxes paid by (near) all citizens. i.e. payroll tax.

  75. Baldrick

    Bolt goes gun control:

    Bolt went gun control on Sky News last night, when the bodies were still laying on the streets and the blood still fresh. Despicable.

  76. Myrddin Seren

    Full auto require different trigger, hammer, sear, disconnector, bolt carrier. Not easy for any rando to fabricate.

    Watching a couple of the smart phone videos on line, the perp seemed to have big magazines. The bursts went on for a long time. I thought 30 rounds each at least. Someone in the crowd speculated 50 round volleys, but the sound on the ground would have been hard to isolate.

    Lot of work for the CSIs and FBI crime labs. Starting with – who has jurisdiction ?

  77. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    White American men are a bigger domestic terrorist threat than Muslim foreigners
    Since Trump took office, more Americans have been killed by white American men with no connection to Islam than by Muslim terrorists or foreigners.

  78. Chris

    Could someone on this blog please explain to Boambe John how easy peasy it is to convert a semi automatic (which is legal in the US) into an automatic.

    IT: It’s not that easy at all.
    Correct. But its easy to someone who has done it before , for certain models. Or buys the help. Its not as hard as for instance renovating a kitchen. And the rewards are just not there for most of us; the toys are fun but expensive to use.

    Its also twenty years in a Federal pen. That’s why people don’t do it.

  79. mh

    86 In Nice.

    And Sonia Kruger put forward an idea on how to prevent an attack like that here. Seems like some ideas are politically correct and others not so much.

  80. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Modern Australia:

    Pidapipo Gelateria has deleted an Instagram post launching gendered ice-cream flavours after coming under fire on social media.

    Melbourne University School of Social and Political Sciences lecturer, Dr Lauren Rosewarne, says the gendering of ice-cream is unnecessary.

    http://www.theage.com.au/small-business/managing/cult-icecream-store-pidapipo-under-fire-for-gendered-icecream-20171001-gysfw1.html

  81. Boambee John

    Viva
    #2513403, posted on October 3, 2017 at 12:21 pm
    Could someone on Twitter please inform Ms P that civilian ownership of fully automatic weapons has been illegal in the US since the 1930s.

    Could someone on this blog please explain to Boambe John how easy peasy it is to convert a semi automatic (which is legal in the US) into an automatic.

    Quite aware of that thanks viva.

    But that is not what the gun control freaks scream about, they carry on about the availability of automatic weapons, which are already controlled.

  82. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Bolt went gun control on Sky News last night, when the bodies were still laying on the streets and the blood still fresh. Despicable.

    Remember when he chucked Pell under the bus and then walked it back after the damage was done?

    Still pining for Abbott too.

    Bad judgment.

  83. Boambee John

    And in Australia semi automatics are already controlled.

  84. Uh oh

    Myrddin Seren
    #2513411, posted on October 3, 2017 at 12:31 pm
    Sydney Uni is saying –

    ‘We may not be able to openly exclude enrolees and employees on the basis of social and political conservatism. However, if you come to Sydney Uni with Wrongthink, we are going to ram tolerance, diversity and inclusion down your throat until you choke.

    Good for them. They’re not going to tolerate intolerance.

  85. Eddystone

    I reckon that first burst from the shooter was more than 50 rounds.

    There was also long intervals between bursts.

    Belt fed?

  86. Mother Lode

    And in Australia semi automatics are already controlled.

    Oh, but Australia is continuing with the strategy it uses to stop global warming!

    To stop the use of illegal weapons in America, we have to outlaw illegal weapons here.

    Hang on, it is getting a bit confusing.

    How’s this:

    We should also ban trucks to prevent another Nice.

  87. Andrew

    Silly Moaning Reports on the Vegas atrocity:

    A lone shooter has opened fire at a country music festival in Las Vegas, carrying out the deadliest mass killing in US history.

    Mass shooting, perhaps. Nowhere near the deadliest mass killings (9/11 and Tim McVeigh come to mind instantly with 60 and 3x the death toll).

    Paddock, who 17 firearms in his hotel room, is understood to have shot himself dead. A further 18 weapons and explosives inside his home.

    The smoke from the guns, which set of a smoke alarm, allowed a SWAT team to locate Paddock’s room in 20 minutes.

    That’s just illiterate tripe. “…who [had] 17 firearms” “A further 18 weapons and explosives [were found] inside his home” “which set OFF a smoke alarm.”

  88. Eddystone

    We should stop all this political correctness and kick the shit out of ISIS et al.

    Ditto any politicians* who put international interests ahead of Australia’s.

    *NADT

  89. Tim Neilson

    Since Trump took office, more Americans have been killed by white American men with no connection to Islam than by Muslim terrorists or foreigners.

    If the number of Muslims or foreigners in the USA was in the same order of magnitude as the number of white American men, that statement might have some potential significance.

    I wonder if they count illegal immigrants as “foreigners”. Usually they don’t. Satirist Mark Steyn meant the expression he invented, “undocumented American”, as a joke, but “progressives don’t do humour.

  90. Eddystone

    Didn’t take long.

    Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has hinted at further gun law reform in the wake of the Las Vegas massacre, saying the issue would be raised at a meeting with all state and territory leaders this week.

    http://www.afr.com/news/malcolm-turnbull-hints-at-gun-law-reform-following-las-vegas-shooting-20171002-gyt2s7

  91. Tom

    Latest police briefing: 23 firearms recovered from shooter’s hotel room and a further 19 from his home in Mesquite, NV. We’re talking serious psychopath.

  92. Bruce in WA

    Annnnnd, right on cue, in comes Punch:

    Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has hinted at further gun law reform in the wake of the Las Vegas massacre, saying the issue would be raised at a meeting with all state and territory leaders this week.

    Expressing his horror at the slaughter in the United States overnight perpetrated by a lone gunman, Mr Turnbull noted that Australia already had far tougher gun laws than the US and how the recent amnesty had netted more than 25,000 illegal weapons in its first two months.

    While the current set-up was adequate, he said the issue would be discussed at Thursday’s Council of Australian Governments meeting in Canberra which was called three months ago to discuss counter terrorism.

    Read more: http://www.afr.com/news/malcolm-turnbull-hints-at-gun-law-reform-following-las-vegas-shooting-20171002-gyt2s7#ixzz4uPG5JfsQ
    Follow us: @FinancialReview on Twitter | financialreview on Facebook

  93. Same-sex marriage: Religious exemptions bad for business, Australia’s reputation

    The two premises of the argument are: religious exemptions are bad for business, we should not allow private businesses the opportunity to make such a decision.

    We are slowly becoming a fascistic hellhole.

  94. Myrddin Seren

    Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has hinted at further gun law reform in the wake of the Las Vegas massacre, saying the issue would be raised at a meeting with all state and territory leaders this week.

    Rahm Emmanuel’s maxim: Never let a good crisis go by.

    Expect further efforts to disarm normal folk. Crims not so much.

  95. Mother Lode

    Didn’t take long.

    Fucker is desperate for anything that will earn him approving column inches in the ABC and Failfacts – he still thinks that is the way to win over Australians.

  96. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull has hinted at further gun law reform in the wake of the Las Vegas massacre, saying the issue would be raised at a meeting with all state and territory leaders this week.

    What are they going to do? Ban soda streams?

    This is the happy middle ground advocated by some here; complete government control.

  97. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    The smoke from the guns, which set of a smoke alarm, allowed a SWAT team to locate Paddock’s room in 20 minutes.

    That is deplorable.

    Hotel security have done a horrible job here.

  98. Senile Old Guy

    Their ABC:

    Gun lobby holds sway: The gun lobby has a stranglehold on the political process in Washington. No sensible gun control could be enacted after the massacre of 20 children and six teachers in Sandy Hook Connecticut. No modest gun control could be considered in Congress after a young man murdered black worshippers in Charleston South Carolina. Nothing changed after these events, which brought a president to tears (it was the hardest, the toughest day of his presidency, Obama said).

    But the piece starts with this:

    The killing in Las Vegas is barely over, and the mourning has begun. But the tragic fact is that there will be no end to the gun massacres in America. Nights like last night will be replayed many times in the years ahead. There is no end to gun availability in America — estimates are there is at least one gun for every citizen of the United States, so more than 300 million within easy reach. Anyone determined to obtain guns can and will, despite any existing waiting periods, background checks, mental health warning flags or other proposed palliatives.

    So “sensible gun control” would probably not have made a difference.

  99. pete m

    DB, the Court must abide the following principles from the family law act:

    FAMILY LAW ACT 1975 – SECT 60B

    Objects of Part and principles underlying it
    (1) The objects of this Part are to ensure that the best interests of children are met by:

    (a) ensuring that children have the benefit of both of their parents having a meaningful involvement in their lives, to the maximum extent consistent with the best interests of the child; and

    (b) protecting children from physical or psychological harm from being subjected to, or exposed to, abuse, neglect or family violence; and

    (c) ensuring that children receive adequate and proper parenting to help them achieve their full potential; and

    (d) ensuring that parents fulfil their duties, and meet their responsibilities, concerning the care, welfare and development of their children.

    (2) The principles underlying these objects are that (except when it is or would be contrary to a child’s best interests):

    (a) children have the right to know and be cared for by both their parents, regardless of whether their parents are married, separated, have never married or have never lived together; and

    (b) children have a right to spend time on a regular basis with, and communicate on a regular basis with, both their parents and other people significant to their care, welfare and development (such as grandparents and other relatives); and

    (c) parents jointly share duties and responsibilities concerning the care, welfare and development of their children; and

    (d) parents should agree about the future parenting of their children; and

    (e) children have a right to enjoy their culture (including the right to enjoy that culture with other people who share that culture).

    (3) For the purposes of subparagraph (2)(e), an Aboriginal child’s or Torres Strait Islander child’s right to enjoy his or her Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander culture includes the right:

    (a) to maintain a connection with that culture; and

    (b) to have the support, opportunity and encouragement necessary:

    (i) to explore the full extent of that culture, consistent with the child’s age and developmental level and the child’s views; and

    (ii) to develop a positive appreciation of that culture.

    (4) An additional object of this Part is to give effect to the Convention on the Rights of the Child done at New York on 20 November 1989.

    Note: The text of the Convention is set out in Australian Treaty Series 1991 No. 4 ([1991] ATS 4). In 2011, the text of a Convention in the Australian Treaty Series was accessible through the Australian Treaties Library on the AustLII website (www.austlii.edu.au).

  100. zyconoclast

    So Turnbull, Shorten and similar have been excommunicated?

    I excommunicated Maocolm during the republic referendum.

    I excommunicated Shorten during the Tasmanian mine thing.

  101. Does ‘parent’ mean natural parent or legal parent?

  102. John Constantine

    Lot of Australian family court lawyers have killed more men than the Vegas shooter did.

    You just aren’t a prolific serially killing sociopath when you do it for money and progress the agenda.

  103. Rabz

    Gun lobby holds sway

    The gun lobby has a stranglehold on the political process in Washington.

    No sensible gun control could be enacted after the massacre of 20 children and six teachers in Sandy Hook Connecticut. No modest gun control could be considered in Congress after a young man murdered black worshippers in Charleston South Carolina.

    Nothing changed after these events

    So no mention of those regrettable incidents in San Bernadino and Florida, eh cockhead?

  104. Hydra

    The smoke from the guns, which set of a smoke alarm, allowed a SWAT team to locate Paddock’s room in 20 minutes.

    That is deplorable.

    Hotel security have done a horrible job here.

    Why longer than 2mins? So that’s 20 minutes plus the time for the SWAT to get there.

  105. Hydra

    White American men are a bigger domestic terrorist threat than Muslim foreigners
    Since Trump took office, more Americans have been killed by white American men with no connection to Islam than by Muslim terrorists or foreigners.

    What about black American men in Baltimore and Detroit?

  106. An Aussie staying in next room to the shooter and called hotel reception to tell them. If that is correct why did the police clear floors below and same before got to his room ?

  107. Bernard

    “No sensible gun control could be enacted after the massacre of 20 children and six teachers in Sandy Hook Connecticut. No modest gun control could be considered in Congress after a young man murdered black worshippers in Charleston South Carolina.”

    Kind of strange isn’t it.

  108. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I reckon that first burst from the shooter was more than 50 rounds.

    There was also long intervals between bursts.

    Belt fed?

    AK – 47 with a 100 round drum magazine?

  109. Bernard

    “No sensible gun control could be enacted after the massacre of 20 children and six teachers in Sandy Hook Connecticut. No modest gun control could be considered in Congress after a young man murdered black worshippers in Charleston South Carolina.”

    Kind of strange at that.

  110. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The smoke from the guns, which set of a smoke alarm, allowed a SWAT team to locate Paddock’s room in 20 minutes.

    WTF – firearms have used SMOKELESS propellant – cordite – for over a hundred years?

  111. Bernard

    “An Aussie staying in next room to the shooter and called hotel reception to tell them. If that is correct why did the police clear floors below and same before got to his room ?” Yes a bit of a mystery.

  112. Bernard

    “The smoke from the guns, which set of a smoke alarm, allowed a SWAT team to locate Paddock’s room in 20 minutes.” Very dubious.

  113. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    NBC News‏Verified account @NBCNews 9h9 hours ago

    JUST IN: One hour and 12 minutes elapsed between first call to police and breach of Stephen Paddock’s hotel room, @PeteWilliamsNBC reports

    This is shocking.

  114. What sort of hotel trolley did he use to get 17 guns + ammo into his hotel room?
    (It is quite a load.)

    Did he tip the bellboy?

  115. Boambee John

    Uh oh at 1247

    Good for them. They’re not going to tolerate intolerance.

    Except, of course, their own intolerance of differing viewpoints.

  116. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Vegas hotels often have staff stationed at the lifts to make sure you are not taking outside booze into the room or hookers and this guy got an armory in there?

    This is one bizarre event.

  117. Alberik

    “WTF – firearms have used SMOKELESS propellant – cordite – for over a hundred years?”

    So what is this telling you?

  118. Bruce of Newcastle

    What sort of hotel trolley did he use to get 17 guns + ammo into his hotel room?
    (It is quite a load.)

    Ten suitcases.

    Investigators uncovered 19 firearms, explosives and several thousand rounds of ammunition at the gunman’s Mesquite home, police said. In addition, authorities found 23 firearms in Paddock’s hotel room. The weapons consisted of a mixture of handguns and long rifles, which, according to Lombardo, traveled up to his hotel suite through 10 different suitcases.

    A computer was also found in Paddock’s hotel suite, and is being evaluated as part of the ongoing investigation.

    Lombardo said earlier that the rifles found included scopes on them. Two of the guns were modified to make them fully automatic, two U.S. officials told The Associated Press.

    Las Vegas police, feds race to uncover what drove ‘aggressively unfriendly’ gunman with weapons arsenal to kill (Fox)

  119. C.L.

    How come there weren’t calls for abortion control after Kermit Gosnell?

  120. marcus classis

    Long day. Son’s OK, all his mates bar one are OK and the mate’s got a painful but not crippling leg wound. The lads have all got together and donated blood, all they can do.

  121. ZK2A;

    WTF – firearms have used SMOKELESS propellant – cordite – for over a hundred years?

    Too much cleaning oil on the hot barrel?

  122. Hydra

    That’s good news, marcus.

  123. Myrddin Seren

    Upon inspection of Paddock’s car, officials found ammonium nitrate — an ingredient that’s harmless alone, but when combined with other chemical ingredients, can make a bomb.

    Must have gotten impatient to strike.

    Based on the recent experience in Spain, with a tad of web-browsing and time he probably could have booby trapped the hotel room, the corridor outside it and /or his car.

  124. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only) at 1:15 pm:

    ” The smoke from the guns, which set of a smoke alarm, allowed a SWAT team to locate Paddock’s room in 20 minutes.

    That is deplorable.

    Hotel security have done a horrible job here.”

    Yeah, in Jason Bourne filums the CIA control room in the USA can instantly enter the surveillance camera systems in European train stations, hotels, plazas, coffee shops and the local barbers before the locals realise something is happening on their very own doorstep; immediately remotely scan the suspect’s ATM card to discover the destination on his travel ticket purchase; mobilise three assassins lying about on their bed awaiting the call and have them on site in minutes (having read the briefing note on their mobile phone whilst speeding against the traffic down one way lanes on a motor bike, and assembling their sniper rifle whilst leaping over ticket barriers in peak hour at the bus station).

    Even in The Day of the Jackal it takes Deputy Commissioner Claude Clouseau just on two minutes twenty three seconds to get from his spot on the footpath right outside the pension house to the room where the Jackal lurks.

    I suspect it would take a SWAT team five minutes just to fill out the vehicle movement order plus a couple more looking for an approved signatory.

    The expectations of perfection are high I see.

  125. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    The expectations of perfection are high I see.

    He was firing a machine gun in a hotel room that has dozens of heavily armed security staff on the gaming floor. No one expects perfection, but strike a light the hotel has some questions to answer.

  126. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Too much cleaning oil on the hot barrel?

    That’s the only explanation that suggests itself, but you would need a lot of oil to set off a smoke detector, surely?

  127. Myrddin Seren

    He was firing a machine gun in a hotel room that has dozens of heavily armed security staff on the gaming floor. No one expects perfection, but strike a light the hotel has some questions to answer.

    The casino safes and cash were secured and under no threat throughout the mass casualty incident.

  128. Chris

    WTF – firearms have used SMOKELESS propellant – cordite – for over a hundred years?

    Too much cleaning oil on the hot barrel?

    You lot have used enough guns to know that ‘smokeless’ is by comparison with the clouds of white smoke from the black powder that came before.

    It still makes smoke, just not very much.

  129. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    What sort of hotel trolley did he use to get 17 guns + ammo into his hotel room?
    (It is quite a load.)
    Ten suitcases.

    Yes, the hotel has questions to answer. How can such an extensive armory not be seen by the housekeeping staff as they do the room (if he had been booked in for a few days as I read)?

    It might be time to review a policy we came across in the 5-star hotel we stayed in in Seattle for three days. They offered a discount if you didn’t use the room housekeeping over that period. We didn’t take them up on that – I like clean sheets, towels and the mini bar refreshed daily where necessary, although at times of my convenience not theirs. But such a policy would allow people to hide weapons that would otherwise be spotted. Housekeeping too should be briefed to be alert to such things from now on.

  130. Eddystone

    70 round bursts are going to cause a lot of smoke.

  131. Fergus

    He also had two cameras set up ro warn him of when the law enforcement arrived. And no one saw that? Nothing suspicious on cctv? Must have had inside help.
    https://www.debka.com/isis-claims-las-vegas-massacre-left-50-dead-400-wounded/

  132. Myrddin Seren

    Lizzie

    How can such an extensive armory not be seen by the housekeeping staff as they do the room (if he had been booked in for a few days as I read)?

    You are assuming that the guns were moved up prior to the daily room spruce up, and that he would have left them in a visible place.

    How about – rolled them up from the carpark that afternoon and/or – kept the cases full of guns and ammo locked ?

    But taking your point to the logical conclusion, and given what we have seen at airports and air travel – how far off are we from:

    House keeping will service your room at xx:xx. They will be accompanied by our security team. Please be available to open all your bags for inspection. If you are not in your room for service and baggage check, locked bags may be removed and detonated outside the hotel. Thank you for your cooperation.

  133. Jo Smyth

    The FBI are not the only ones with investigative skills. There will be people out there now finding out everything about this shooter. Trying to keep anything suppressed or away from the public is futile.

  134. Myrddin Seren

    He also had two cameras ready to forewarn him when law enforcement officers were closing in. When the SWAT team was near the room, he did not wait to be cornered, but turned a gun on himself.

    Just as well he didn’t take the time to figure out amfo explosives and detonate via mobile phone.

    Leave a booby trapped hotel-style ash tray or bin in the corridor and detonate when SWAT approach the room – like a ‘Die Hard’ movie.

  135. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Glad to hear all’s well with your son and that the mate’s leg wound is not too bad, Marcus.

    On a happier note, from back thread, go for it One Old Bruce. Dance your way with a new love into your later years (I just won’t say dotage, although the alliteration is good). Dotagers don’t dance. Dancing is one of life’s joys, do it as long as you can, even if it’s just sitting in a chair making happy movements. I know a woman who at 72 married her sixth husband. She never gives up hope, and so far as I know this latest one seems to be doing the trick – they’ve been together and living it up now for three years. And that great source of all of my Mumsie leftist indoctrination, the Australian Women’s Weekly, has an article on Dame Judi Dench saying she has found love again at 82. She’s been in enough shows about such things to be well alert to the possibility. So well done, Bruce, love sees no wrinkles. 🙂

  136. Chris

    Last week met a happy and not at all young couple just back from their honeymoon – they met at Argentine Tango lessons. I am not certain of their ages but they made a delightful couple. ‘

    The Argentine Tango is absolutely awesome. They teach you to LEAD. Its not a routine done ins sync.

  137. thefrolickingmole

    Meanwhile in other odious slime news.

    Noted P$$o anal rapist Roman pops out for a bit of “woe is me”…
    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/oct/02/roman-polanski-on-case-sentence-as-far-as-what-i-did-its-over
    Roman Polanski has addressed his decades-old rape accusation in a new interview, claiming that he has finished his sentence.

    The Oscar-winning film-maker appeared at the Zurich film festival to promote his new thriller. Based on a True Story. It was the same city that saw his extradition proceedings initiated back in 2009. In 1977, Polanski was arrested for drugging and sexually assaulting 13-year-old Samantha Geimer. After spending 42 days in jail, he fled the country after hearing the judge was planning to sentence him for longer.

    “As you know, Samantha Geimer has been asking for over 30 years for this thing to end,” Polanski said to the Hollywood Reporter. “But, I’m sorry the judges who dealt with it the last 40 years were corrupted, one covering for the other. So I don’t [sic] maybe one of them will [eventually] stop doing it.”

    Polanski remains a fugitive and in August, a judge in California pushed for the case to go forward despite Geimer appearing in court to urge them not to charge him further.

    “As far as what I did: it’s over,” Polanski said. “I pleaded guilty. I went to jail. I came back to the United States to do it, people forget about that, or don’t even know. I then was locked up here [in Zurich] after this festival. So in the sum, I did about four or five times more than what was promised to me.”

    Since the initial case, Polanski has been hit with two further claims. In 2010, the British actor Charlotte Lewis said the actor had “forced himself” on her when she was 16 and earlier this year, a woman identified only as Robin claimed she was “sexually vicitimized” by the director when she was also 16.

  138. pete m

    db, here is the full Act link:

    Family Law Act link.

    parent can mean adoptive parent

    also:

    FAMILY LAW ACT 1975 – SECT 64C

    Parenting orders may be made in favour of parents or other persons
    A parenting order in relation to a child may be made in favour of a parent of the child or some other person.

  139. pete m

    news says they found attachment on 2 weapons which allowed full auto use

  140. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    How about – rolled them up from the carpark that afternoon and/or – kept the cases full of guns and ammo locked ?

    Ten heavy suitcases rolled up on the arvo would surely have drawn attention from security at the front door or housekeeping in the corridors. There are a lot of staff hanging around doing things in these big hotels. And housekeeping, certainly from now on, should be alert to any guest who is storing ten suitcases in his room. It’s hard enough to find space to put two out of the way in many places, unless you have a suite, and even then you couldn’t hid ten.

    I think we’ll see a bigger role for housekeeping and security in future. Not quite as rough as you suggest I hope though.

  141. srr

    🅾️ 🇭️ 🇴️ 🇺️ 🇷️ ❗‏ @__0HOUR1_ 18m18 minutes ago

    Guess whos been to the Philippines

    STEVEN!
    ..
    1 Drugs and Cartels

    2 Islamic Terrorism via Philippines

    These are the only two options
    ..
    Im interested if he has money ties in the Philippines in strip clubs

    human smuggling?
    https://twitter.com/__0HOUR1_/status/915058314152697856
    ..
    there’s a connection between these two look close
    https://twitter.com/__0HOUR1_/status/915058791250612225

  142. Andrew

    WTF – firearms have used SMOKELESS propellant – cordite – for over a hundred years?

    Good grief – he fired over 600 rounds! You can set off a smoke detector with a single cigarette.

  143. Myrddin Seren

    Ten heavy suitcases rolled up on the arvo would surely have drawn attention from security at the front door or housekeeping in the corridors.

    Demonstrably – nope.

    He may have been coming from the car park straight to his floor, once he had his room key. As someone suggested, maybe wandered back and forth with a golf bag.

    Room cleaners are not now nor ever going to be security checks.

    Brace for your mandatory inspections.

  144. Stimpson J. Cat

    Family Court Chief Justice Diana Bryant, who has presided over many hundreds of disputes involving broken families in her 17-year career as a family law judge

    It’s all about your legacy, isn’t it sweetheart?
    Never let the facts get in the way of a good story.

  145. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The Argentine Tango is absolutely awesome.

    Absolutely. Hairy and I practiced this together at night on dance footsteps laid out in the streets of Buenos Aires outside a close Tango Hall. In Tango, men must lead but women can add their own drama. Tango has been called draped and vertical sexual intercourse to music. Hard to disagree. It is very involving. 🙂

  146. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Good grief – he fired over 600 rounds! You can set off a smoke detector with a single cigarette.

    Thanks for that.

  147. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    A closed Tango Hall. It was after hours, late at nite and we were well away on local wines.
    These are places where mostly singletons go to meet other Tango dance partners. Strictly for dancing.

  148. lotocoti

    Gun lobby holds sway: The gun lobby has a stranglehold on the political process in Washington.

    Oh really?
    The National Beer Wholesalers Ass0ciation gives more money to the DNC and GOP than the NRA.

  149. srr

    TheLastRefuge‏ @TheLastRefuge2 3h3 hours ago
    More TheLastRefuge Retweeted David ShoelessJoe 🇺🇸

    Agree with this 100%. Visits to Philippines (reported.) Money sent to Philippines confirmed by LEO. GF of Filipino origin. ISIS fight there.

    David ShoelessJoe 🇺🇸 @yohiobaseball

    Keep paying attention to the Philippines & follow the Money. That is the connection to what & who helped the Vegas shooters mission to kill

  150. srr

    TheLastRefuge Retweeted
    Michael Del Moro‏Verified account @MikeDelMoro 6h6 hours ago

    ABC News: In recent months, the Las Vegas shooter sent tens of thousands of dollars to someone in the Philippines, per @MLevineReports

  151. Stimpson J. Cat

    We have no proof the shooter was mentally ill.
    So let’s not jump to conclusions kids.
    Not everyone who kills loads of innocent people is crazy. In fact the majority are all too sane.
    I am sure he had a very logical reason for carrying out a very well planned logical mass murder.

  152. srr

    TheLastRefuge‏ @TheLastRefuge2 5h5 hours ago

    Police Scanner Full Audio During Las Vegas “Mandalay Bay Massacre’…
    http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/10/02/police-scanner-full-audio-during-las-vegas-mandalay-bay-massacre/

  153. stackja

    3 October 2017 – ABS releases first weekly estimate of Australian Marriage Law Postal Surveys received
    The Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) is pleased to release the first of its weekly estimates of the number of survey forms received for the Australian Marriage Law Postal Survey.

    As of Friday, 29 September 2017, the ABS estimates it has received 9.2 million (57.5 per cent) survey forms.

    This estimate is indicative only as it is based on the bulk containers of returned forms and not a count of individual or processed forms. It does not include forms that have been posted but not yet delivered by Australia Post to the ABS.

    ABS Deputy Statistician and Taskforce Lead, Jonathan Palmer, said weekly updates will be provided until the survey closes on 7 November 2017. Final participation figures will be available when all processing is completed and survey results are released on 15 November 2017.

    Mr Palmer said:

    “We hope that this update will serve as a reminder to those who have not submitted their form to do so promptly if they wish to have their say.

    “If you haven’t received your form, or your form is lost or damaged, please contact us via our website and we will send you a new one.

    “If you can’t access the internet, call the Information Line on 1800 572 113 (open 8am to 8pm local time seven days a week) or visit a capital city or regional form pick-up location.

    “Requests for new survey forms will close 6pm (local time) on Friday, 20 October 2017.”

  154. zyconoclast

    Options for RAN anti-missile systems:

    1. Minister Payne acts as a human shield and blocks the missile
    2. A modified French version for 3 times the price and delivered by 2050 just as the ships are decommissioned .
    Almost forgot, and built using South Australian steel.

  155. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Brace for your mandatory inspections.

    Hairy likes to sneak in his favorite beers. We’re done for. 🙂

  156. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Gun lobby holds sway: The gun lobby has a stranglehold on the political process in Washington.

    Planned Parenthood spent $38,000,000 and murdered 330,000 last year.

  157. DrBeauGan

    We didn’t take them up on that – I like clean sheets, towels and the mini bar refreshed daily where necessary,

    You must be very dirty, Lizzie. I find that changing bedsheets and towels once a week is perfectly adequate. Of course, I sleep alone and am a very clean person.

    Do you change sheets and towels daily at home?

  158. Bear Necessities

    Unfortunately Las Vegas as a destination will no longer be the same. Security at all Casinos now will be overwhelming. It will take the fun out of the place. Americans often go there for a weekend away. If most of your weekend is being looked over by security then you won’t be having a good time.

  159. Fisky

    This is one bizarre event.

    It was probably an anti-Trump set-up. They tried to Katrina his presidency to no avail. We have to assume the Deep State have much more of these incidents on the way!

  160. Chris

    We have no proof the shooter was mentally ill.
    So let’s not jump to conclusions kids.
    Not everyone who kills loads of innocent people is crazy. In fact the majority are all too sane.
    I am sure he had a very logical reason for carrying out a very well planned logical mass murder

    Stimpson, you are right again.
    The ‘Unknowable eeevil’ is just journalists too lazy to do homework and too in love with themselves to admit they themselves wrote the blank cheque that this shooter just cashed.

  161. Myrddin Seren

    Hairy likes to sneak in his favorite beers. We’re done for.

    Could be worse.

    Imagine you are staying in the same room as Barack Obama did, and you want to sneak some Russkie hooks in to pee on the bed ?

    #NotWinning 🙁

  162. srr

    Mandalay Bay Shooter Riddles – The Philippine Angle
    Posted on October 2, 2017 by sundance

    We haven’t torn into one of these riddles in a while and this one has a signature pattern that makes in very interesting.

    Stephen Craig Paddock (64). Girlfriend reported as Marilou Danley (62).

    Paddock considered a “high stakes” gambler.(link)
    Danley considered a “high stakes” hostess. (link)
    Paddock reported visits to Philippines. (link)
    Danley reported as Philippine origin. W/Filipino connections. (link)
    Paddock reported to be sending money “tens of thousands of dollars” to Philippines recently. (link)
    The picture below (unknown origin) appears to be Paddock (far left – check shirt), and Danley (center). The bar appears to be the Lex Nightclub in Reno Nevada. Website HERE

    https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/mandalay-bay-massacre-2.jpg
    (click to enlarge) 2048 x 1152

    [all links at this link] Continue reading →
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/10/02/mandalay-bay-shooter-riddles-the-philippine-angle/#more-139327

  163. Chris

    You must be very dirty, Lizzie.

    Now, Beaugan thats enough of that.

    Clean sheets are a delightful amenity. One of our friends found HOW delightful when their little son said ‘Darn, I forgot to wee in the bed’ one morning.

    Investigation revealed he loved a clean bed and by wetting it, he got one every day. She promised him a clean one every day and he could stop weeing in bed.

  164. Mitch M.

    Adoptive parents tend to be better-educated and put more effort into raising their kids, as measured by things like eating family meals together, providing the child with books, and getting involved in their schools.
    And yet, as rated by their teachers and tests, adopted children tend to have worse behavioral and academic outcomes in kindergarten and first grade than birth children do, according to a new research brief from the Institute for Family Studies written by psychologist Nicholas Zill.

    To be expected. Adopted children are far more likely to have experienced traumatic events and will have a higher incidence of childhood PTSD which can have implications long into adulthood. This isn’t just about mood disorders, there can physical alterations in the brain and endocrine balance is often wonky, as often occurs in depression.

    DB, for some children the safest place is far far away from their natural parents.

    I provided assistance in a state ward home for children. The stories were horrific. As one psychiatrist quipped: sometimes the best thing for a person is to move to the other side of the continent from their parents.

  165. Baldrick

    Somebody’s struggling for relevancy :

    Kevin Rudd ✔ @MrKRudd
    As someone now living in the US, this is insanity. The President & Congress must start by banning automatic weapons.

  166. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    evin Rudd ✔ @MrKRudd
    As someone now living in the US, this is insanity. The President & Congress must start by banning automatic weapons.

    You mean Australia’s rid of the sniveling toad?

  167. DrBeauGan

    Chris
    #2513569, posted on October 3, 2017 at 3:14 pm
    You must be very dirty, Lizzie.

    Now, Beaugan thats enough of that.

    Clean sheets are a delightful amenity. One of our friends found HOW delightful when their little son said ‘Darn, I forgot to wee in the bed’ one morning.

    Investigation revealed he loved a clean bed and by wetting it, he got one every day. She promised him a clean one every day and he could stop weeing in bed.

    Chris, I’m sure Lizzie wouldn’t do that. Not above once a week anyway.

  168. stackja

    Bear Necessities
    #2513564, posted on October 3, 2017 at 3:10 pm
    Unfortunately Las Vegas as a destination will no longer be the same. Security at all Casinos now will be overwhelming. It will take the fun out of the place. Americans often go there for a weekend away. If most of your weekend is being looked over by security then you won’t be having a good time.

    Was Las Vegas as a destination to no longer be the same, the plan by someone?
    And shooter persuaded by someone?

  169. Baldrick

    You mean Australia’s rid of the sniveling toad?

    Unfortunately not Zulu. We’re still paying in a hefty defined benefit superannuation pension for the rest of his worthless life.

  170. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Do you change sheets and towels daily at home?

    Changed once a week at home, Dr. BG. We are little piggies at home.
    Towels changed more often though. Can’t have the cleaner upset.
    But when away, I luxuriate and change sheets and towels if they are rumpled or marked.
    Because I can. And because I am irritated to hell if they have a ‘save the planet’ notice about it.

  171. stackja

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2513573, posted on October 3, 2017 at 3:20 pm

    Probably not.

    Kevin Rudd‏Verified account
    @MrKRudd
    Thursday 26th Oct I’ll be discussing my autobiography with @KerryOBrien. Not long til launch @MacmillanAus https://www.wheelercentre.com/events/kevin-rudd-and-kerry-o-brien … #auspol

  172. If the shooter had been planning this for a while it would be a reasonable thing to send funds to his wife’s account or relatives etc. Once he had done the shooting might be difficult for his wife to access funds.

    FBI should already have info on recipients in Phillipines.

  173. Chris

    I provided assistance in a state ward home for children. The stories were horrific. As one psychiatrist quipped: sometimes the best thing for a person is to move to the other side of the continent from their parents.

    When I went away to school my Mum started fostering.
    Its quite normal for the natural children in foster families to move to the other side of the continent from their birth family. My own two sisters moved to the opposite coast ASAP, and one moved overseas.
    The fostered kids, OTOH –

  174. one old bruce

    Wow. That’s raw, Chris. Good luck to you.

  175. notafan

    FBI should already have info on recipients in Phillipines.

    Maybe but money transfer agents often sent single remittances for multiple recipients to the Philippines, which are then distributed in cash. There are tens of thousands of Filipinos sending back small amounts via agents to support their families.

    I very much doubt there is anything much in this, unless people think he was funding isis operations in the South.

    Seems a little unlikely.

  176. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Kevin Rudd ✔ @MrKRudd
    As someone now living in the US, this is insanity. The President & Congress must start by banning automatic weapons.

    Your several decades too late, fucktard.

  177. John Constantine

    `Their andrew broad holds one of the countries safest tory seats, but the Nationals ‘need’ to preselect wymynsys into seats as safe as his, so he is frantically signalling his socialist creditentials to get the wymynsys to target someone elses seat for the diversity quota push.

    When broad writes a letter to bono out of u2, begging for foreign policy ideas that will let broad double australias foreign aid rort payments, when broad begs for refugee children to come on welfare and fill the kindergartens and schools of his electorate, he is just outflanking the leftist wymynsys that have occupied the Nationals, by going full Stalin.

    Windmills, foreign aid, refugees, nationalisation of business–andrew broad is out there to the left on all these, desperately hoping that the preselection of wymynsys will stop threatening him if he does.

  178. Chris

    Wow. That’s raw, Chris. Good luck to you.

    Meh. We had to move anyway – urban drift of rural-born kids, not just fostering as the driver! I wish the farm were closer now though.

  179. Snoopy

    Is tupping a Filipina some sort of ISIS initiation, srr?

  180. notafan

    Man had a lot of loose change

    In 1987, the gig finally ended when the Oregon Attorney General’s Office filed seven racketeering charges against Paddock related to his bingo operation. On top of that, he was charged with rolling back car odometers.

    Paddock settled the racketeering charges for $623,000 and pleaded no contest to the odometer case, while simultaneously claiming he had cancer.

    Among his other life claims: being an auto crew racing chief, Chicago Bears football player and survivor of a World War II mine sweeper sinking, according to the Eugene Register-Guard.

    When the final verdict in Paddock’s legal saga came in, and Circuit Judge George Woodrich decided to let him off with a $100,000 fine and no jail time.


    story on Paddock’s dad

  181. Stimpson J. Cat

    We’re talking serious psychopath.

    Psychopaths are very very rare.
    Owning lots of guns does not make you a psychopath.

  182. Fergus

    One report said the gf was in Japan so still not sure of ethnicity. Could add Burma if he was trying to send a “message”.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandalay

  183. one old bruce

    “Psychopaths are very very rare”

    The 1960s FBI description would be referring to this:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mask_of_Sanity

  184. stackja

    Harry Mason Reid is a retired American politician who served as a United States Senator from Nevada from 1987 to 2017.
    Reid began his public career as the city attorney for Henderson, Nevada, before winning election to the Nevada Assembly. Reid’s former boxing coach, Mike O’Callaghan, chose Reid as his running mate in the 1970 Nevada gubernatorial election, and Reid served as Lieutenant Governor of Nevada from 1971 to 1974. After being defeated in races for the United States Senate and the position of Mayor of Las Vegas, Reid served as chairman of the Nevada Gaming Commission from 1977 to 1981. From 1983 to 1987, Reid represented Nevada’s 1st district in the United States House of Representatives.
    Reid won election to the United States Senate in 1986 and served in the Senate from 1987 to 2017.

  185. stackja

    http://ace.mu.nu/
    Texas MoMe and SWOH MoMe:10/21/17
    For Texas:Contact Ben Had
    For Ohio: Contact ibguy
    Internet Claim/Speculation: People See Similarities Between the Pink Pussy Hat Wearing Anti-Trump Protester Here in Reno, NV, from 0:54 to 0:57, and the Vegas Psychopath
    http://www.ktvn.com/story/36203418/president-trump-supporters-and-protesters-gather-in-reno
    Can’t tell myself. But I’d like to make sure law enforcement gets a look at this. Just doin’ my part — like Hillary Clinton proposing banning suppressors in a crime in which zero point zero suppressors were used.

  186. Stimpson J. Cat

    The 1960s FBI description would be referring to this:

    It’s an interesting book but very outdated.
    It is a very complex subject indeed.

  187. Myrddin Seren

    As someone now living in the US, this is insanity.

    As if him enjoying the ongoing benefits of Theresa’s millions living in Manhattan makes KRudd an authority on U.S. policy.

    As someone now living in the US

    What a vacuous preening sociopath. And this was the PM and parliamentary leader of the ALP – twice !! FMD this country is in trouble.

  188. Chris

    Psychopaths are very very rare.
    Owning lots of guns does not make you a psychopath.

    Well I dont know about OTHER psychopaths, but I do own lots of guns. Most of them invented before the bicycle.

  189. notafan

    One report said the gf was in Japan so still not sure of ethnicity.

    If the GF is Marilou Danley she is definitely Filipina. She has now deleted her facebook page but there is no doubt about that, there were lots of Filipino friends and a couple of other Philippines related items.

  190. Mitch M.

    Psychopaths are very very rare.
    Owning lots of guns does not make you a psychopath.

    Psychopathy is not determined by one action. To date there is nothing in his past to indicate psychopathy. Most psychopaths are losers, Paddock appears to have done quite well throughout life. There are high functioning psychopaths, often those with good executive function have preserved frontal lobe function but according to Fallon over active limbic activity. Psychopathy, like most psychiatric conditions, is not a uniform pathology.

  191. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Possibly someone’s having a look at that pic of pussy hat wearer as possible Paddock, but it isn’t me.
    I get a sorry no longer available report on that link.

  192. Baldrick

    There’s still hope for a ‘No’ victory:

    Over 50 per cent of registered voters have cast their ballot in the same sex marriage survey.
    According to estimates released by the Australian Bureau of Statistics, 9.2 million people have sent in their vote as of Friday 29 September 2017.
    That equates to a turnout rate of 57.5 per cent.

    There’s still 40% of eligible voters yet to send in their survey forms and one whole month before it closes for more ‘Yes’ bullies to sway voters.

  193. Myrddin Seren

    I remain intrigued by a couple of things about Paddock.

    He purportedly had remote cameras in the hotel corridor to watch for the inevitable police response, and reportedly had ammonium nitrate – bomb precursor.

    A fair bit of planning went in to this – this was not some even half-baked episode.

    I am assuming he ran out of time to learn bomb making or perhaps to assemble the needed bits to make bombs and booby traps. The clock was running on this.

    In which case he was operating to a deadline – a mass casualty event, and specifically this concert ?? If he had taken his time to assemble more, he could have gone big time – remote detonated truck bomb outside the concert ?? Wonder why it had to be there and then ?

  194. Stimpson J. Cat

    Most psychopaths are losers

    Yep.
    It’s a good thing too.
    Fallon is a very smart though narcissistic showpony.
    Interesting books though.

  195. Top Ender

    One hour and 12 minutes elapsed between first call to police and breach of Stephen Paddock’s hotel room…

    When you consider they could see where the gunfire was coming from, an anti-tank missile with a laser designator would have been a useful way of negating the threat…

  196. Marcus

    Well, that news about Tom Petty seems to have been borne out.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-03/tom-petty-dies-aged-66-after-cardiac-arrest-manager-says/9011538

    A real shock, even if it is rather overshadowed by events in Vegas.

  197. Mitch M.

    Fallon is a very smart though narcissistic showpony

    He is a self confessed psychopath of the high functioning type.

  198. Tom

    It was probably an anti-Trump set-up.

    Correct.

    As always, the cops don’t want to see what’s staring them in the face: an Antifa/ISIS-inspired attack on Trump voters at a country music concert.

  199. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    In Tango, men must lead but women can add their own drama

    As they do.

  200. Chris

    There’s still hope for a ‘No’ victory:

    We’ll see. One son refused to take his survey letter. I asked if I could fill it out and send it in; he said yes.
    Then he fired up ‘The Red Pill’ on our TV and showed it to other son. I dont understand why he didn’t just vote No, but maybe its so he can live among Yessers .

  201. Chris

    As always, the cops don’t want to see what’s staring them in the face: an Antifa/ISIS-inspired attack on Trump voters at a country music concert.

    Mmm. Or maybe they like evidence for their stories, and they dont have evidence on this yet.

  202. Stimpson J. Cat

    He is a self confessed psychopath of the high functioning type.

    Yes, and that rather definitively proves he is nowhere near as clever as he thinks he is.
    What kind of Muppet admits to being a psychopath?
    One who wants attention, fame, and book sales, obviously.
    I love it when allegedly intelligent people show their rather basic ignorance of the important things in life.
    I am sure his family and friends love him for it.

  203. Myrddin Seren

    FMD

    Just went back to the story someone linked upthread about Australia’s complete vulnerability on liquid transport fuels.

    This is the complete window-licking idiot who is the national energy minister:

    “Our international oil supply chain is diverse, flexible and robust and mitigates against supply disruption risks as fuel can be sourced from suppliers in other regions,” Energy Minister Josh Frydenberg told 9NEWS.

    Says the guy from the ALP who remarkably for a leftie actually cares about this problem:

    “Ninety percent of our fuel is imported, mostly from South East Asia. That’s precisely the area that would be affected by a regional crisis.”

    To Freideggburger, relying on fuel imports from zones in an increasingly tense Asia is ‘diversity’. Much like an Australian university definition of diversity – all shades of Left are welcome.

    “The government is committed to returning to full compliance with the IEA stockholding obligation by 2026,” Mr Frydenberg said

    This is the same government that is committed to destroying our energy base BY 2030 because of the Paris Agreement that no one else in their right mind is actually going to comply with but somehow or another insulating the Australian economy from being held hostage over liquid transport fuel supplies can be handballed out for a decade !

    Given the numerous recent decisions on defence, energy and the economy I think we can safely assume that the Turnbull United Party is committed to rendering this country completely helpless and to be surrendered to God knows who at the first opportunity.

    At least with Labor, we know who Shanghai Sam is pulling for.

  204. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Very sad about Tom Petty.

  205. stackja

    The Curtis Culwell Center attack was carried out by two men who attacked officers with gunfire at the entrance to an exhibit featuring cartoon images of Muhammad at the Curtis Culwell Center in Garland, Texas on May 3, 2015. Wikipedia

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  207. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    How can such an extensive armory not be seen by the housekeeping staff as they do the room (if he had been booked in for a few days as I read)?

    Do Not Disturb.

  208. Chris

    Can I get one from ebay?

    I have been thinking what kind of devices might allow civilians in a civil defense mobilisation to respond to truck or car terror attacks. A small sticky-bomb smacked onto the windscreen in front of the driver’s visage would be good. I dont favour CCW of rocket launchers because the ones we can afford just don’t allow precision placement.
    eBay as a disruptive and agile technology could be good – we could just sell the terrorist to the highest bidder. Purchaser to collect and remove.

  209. Geriatric Mayfly

    Family Court Chief Justice Diana Bryant, who has presided over many hundreds of disputes involving broken families in her 17-year career as a family law judge

    Alistair Nicholson’s clone. Remember the old fart and his shameless activism while running that court of emasculation.

  210. Top Ender

    Winston, see you round the back of the pub in 10.

    Choice of colours, seeing as it’s you.

  211. Chris

    Family Court Chief Justice Diana Bryant, who has presided over many hundreds of disputes involving broken families in her 17-year career as a family law judge

    We lived next door to a family court judge. He moved out, and the family who moved in had to put up a big sign saying “That Judge does not live here anymore. Leave us alone you are scaring our children.”

  212. Arky

    Tom Petty can sing runaway with Del Shannon again.
    Great songs. Great singer.

  213. H B Bear

    Yes. Rocket launchers and cars makes perfect sense. So much more convenient than having to get out of the car and belt someone with a tyre lever.

  214. Given the numerous recent decisions on defence, energy and the economy I think we can safely assume that the Turnbull United Party is committed to rendering this country completely helpless and to be surrendered to God knows who at the first opportunity.

    Glad to see some are finally getting to see the bigger picture.
    The sell-out started long before Turdbull, BTW.
    All the groundwork was in place by the end of WWII.

  215. Arky

    Yes. Rocket launchers and cars makes perfect sense. So much more convenient than having to get out of the car and belt someone with a tyre lever.

    ..
    If you are going to belt someone with a tire lever do it with conviction.
    Do it half heartedly and they belt the shit out of you.
    I wont make that particular mistake ever again.

  216. stackja

    memoryvault
    #2513653, posted on October 3, 2017 at 4:39 pm

    FDR, Attlee and Evatt.

  217. TE;

    Choice of colours, seeing as it’s you.

    Do you have one in Hello Kitty?

  218. stackja

    Chris
    #2513643, posted on October 3, 2017 at 4:32 pm
    Family Court Chief Justice Diana Bryant, who has presided over many hundreds of disputes involving broken families in her 17-year career as a family law judge

    We lived next door to a family court judge. He moved out, and the family who moved in had to put up a big sign saying “That Judge does not live here anymore. Leave us alone you are scaring our children.”

    And Leonard John Warwick scared judges.

  219. srr

    Bill Mitchell‏Verified account @mitchellvii 6h6 hours ago

    WATCH: USC Professor Arrested After ‘Making Students Report Fake Active Shooter’

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/10/watch-usc-professor-arrested-making-students-report-fake-active-shooter/

  220. Des Deskperson

    This Tom Petty song is probably now considered white supremacist.

  221. srr

    Blair Cottrell 🇦🇺‏ @blaircottrell89 1h1 hour ago

    Journalists are mad that I’m continuing the appeal against ‘hate-speech’ conviction. It was my plan to go to County from the beginning.

  222. Philippa Martyr

    My favourite Tom Petty song – such a handsome man in his yoof …

    The Waiting


  223. Harlequin Decline

    Australia’s chief Family ‘Court’ judge: children do not need parents.

    Family Court judge enters same-sex debate.

    I thought there was Separation of Powers in Australia-Legislature, Judiciary and Executive. If it still exists doesn’t it mean she should keep her great fat yap shut?

  224. stackja

    A PERSON who contracted measles visited Parramatta’s Riverside Theatres last week, sparking health authorities to issue an alert to stop the spread.

    The person most likely contracted the illness while visiting Melbourne recently and last week visited a number of key locations throughout Sydney.

    Northern Sydney Local Health District issued the health alert today.

    Its public health director Michael Staff said the link to Melbourne follows 11 cases of measles being diagnosed in Victoria in the past fortnight.

  225. cynical1

    Heavy Gambler.

    Heavy losses.

    Payback on LV?

  226. H B Bear

    Yarragrad arts community now a disease risk. It was just a matter of time.

  227. stackja

    Eight new suburbs have been created in the Blacktown local government area and locals have already started organising petitions to fight the changes.

    The change is coming after Blacktown Council decided on Wednesday to chop and change many of the current suburbs because of soaring population growth and the desire to have different names for new stations opening on the skytrain Metro line from 2019.

  228. Stimpson J. Cat

    I wont make that particular mistake ever again.

    Did you try suspension or expulsion first?

    😁

  229. Philippa Martyr

    Heavy Gambler.

    Heavy losses.

    Payback on LV?

    There was a protracted lawsuit against some hotel conglomerate a few years ago as well. If he’s litigious and angry, anything’s possible.

    Diagnosis of terminal illness?

    Early dementia? It seems too organised for that.

    Drug induced psychosis? Definite possibility. The toxicology report will be interesting.

  230. Harlequin Decline

    My favourite Tom Petty song Listen to her Heart.

  231. Top Ender

    On another thought though, no reports of any suppressing fire against the gunman.

    Would be a risky job going up in a helicopter to spray the hotel room, but no-one seems to have done that. Or at least some semi-automatic sniper rounds fired from the ground.

  232. stackja

    Harlequin Decline
    #2513669, posted on October 3, 2017 at 4:58 pm

    Conventions only.

  233. Senile Old Guy

    Their ABC comes out with some astounding research!

    The type of gun law adopted has important impacts. Countries with more restrictive gun licensing laws show fewer deaths by firearms and a lower gun ownership rate.

    If it is harder to get guns, fewer people have guns!

    Here’s a real gem:

    #4: Background checks work

    In most restrictive background checks performed in developed countries, citizens are required to train for gun handling, obtain a licence for hunting or provide proof of membership to a shooting range. Individuals must prove that they do not belong to any “prohibited group”, such as the mentally ill, criminals, children or those at high risk of committing violent crime, such as individuals with a police record of threatening the life of another. Here’s the bottom line. With these provisions, most US active shooters would have been denied the purchase of a firearm.

    Yes, because criminals are going to submit to background checks. But the kicker: being “denied the purchase of a firearm” from a licensed seller does not mean they could not get a gun some other way.

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