Monday Forum: October 2, 2017

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  1. Infidel Tiger

    Paul Murray keeps digging. Now he thinks Obama establishing an alternative to NRA with millions of member on whom he could call to mobilise is a good thing.

    Does he not realise that is a civil war?

    When I say Murray is deeply stupid I am not saying it for shits n giggles. He is a staggeriny ignorant man, but I believe he has a good heart so I cut the fat moronic xunt some slack.

  2. JC

    Here are the court cases dealing with Guns and gun control in the US. Miller seems to be the most important.

    http://www.encyclopedia.com/reference/energy-government-and-defense-magazines/court-rulings-firearms

  3. Boambee John

    Muddy at 2143

    My belief is that Bennett allowed his ambition to lead him astray. I think that Robertson acted similarly over Greece, seeing a disaster that could leave him in a PoW camp, and using medical problems to avoid going there.

    I mention Robertson because his name and Bennett’s were touted as alternatives to Blamey in 1942. Morshead was also mentioned. Morshead did not want the job, and either Bennett or Robertson, in my opinion, would have been a disaster.

    When Robertson and his armoured division were sent to WA to serve under Bennett, some one, probably Blamey, expressed the hope that “Those two red-headedbastards” might kill each other.

    For Bennett himself, I don’t think he was as good as he thought he was, but he performed at least as well as any of the British officers alongside whom he served in Malaya, and better than some.

  4. John Constantine

    The combination of birth control hormones, anti depressants, booze and masses of sugar can transform normal people into ABC style wymynsys all too easily.

    A mates daughter was put on this regime after a marriage breakup, and she put on forty kilos in months, went from never having a sweet tooth to inhaling sugar like oxygen.

    Tough girl went cold turkey and got a manual labor job to straighten herself out, but the masses of medicated ms porkasaurusas occupying their ABC have no way out except total Stalinism.

  5. rickw

    Proper Brits hate the 2nd Amendment because it is a constant reminder that those damn Yankees threw them out.

    The Brits are an ungrateful bunch of tossers, they fucking destroyed most of the guns that American Citizens donated to them in their hour of need. If the Germans had a crack at an invasion then their stupid sorry arses would have been saved by the USA’s Second Amendment.

  6. Stimpson J. Cat

    He is a staggeriny ignorant man, but I believe he has a good heart so I cut the fat moronic xunt some slack.

    I like to think of him as what Monty could have been.

  7. Boambee John

    Muddy

    I’m off to bed, happy to discuss further tomorrow.

  8. Boambee John

    PS

    See my 1020 post just before the page turn.

  9. twostix

    What we learn in these moments is that the western establishment doesn’t regard muslims as humans, more like animals that eat people occasionally, a force of nature, too bad.

    When a white person acts, then they act how they act when in their eyes a human is involved.

  10. Muddy

    Boambee John.
    An interesting thought about Robertson. Our leaders were a mixed bunch, which I guess was to be expected. I have a few of the more modern biographies of some of the bigger names such as Berryman, Wilton, and Savige (not that anyone would recognise those names now), and one thing that struck me, with the first two, was how bloody uninspiring they seemed to be! But they had the contacts, and in the post-war bloodbath got what they wanted: the death of the CMF. But that’s another long, long, conversation!

  11. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Not so slowly.
    Are we there yet?
    ..
    If you kids don’t quit it, I swear to God I’m going to turn this country around and no one is going to Disneyland

    And this is exactly why all children need a dad. 🙂

  12. Muddy

    Yep, got that one. Cheers. Happy sleeping. (I’m waiting for my cheap grog to knock me out. Too many ferrets running around loose in my head to get to sleep yet).

  13. twostix

    Also there’s a momentary palpable sense of relief in shit european countries that have imported literally ultra-violent demographics who are beginning to slaughter their citizens that Americans have their own problems.

    Like a guy with terminal lung cancer being momentarily smug and happy that his superior and much more healthy friend found out he’s got kidney stones.

  14. Snoopy

    I like to think of him as what Monty could have been.

    🙂

  15. Nick

    It’s a fucking complete communist shithole, completely out of step with the rest of the country and reality for that matter. Where the fuck did all these idiots suddenly spring from?!

    I quite surprised how much Melbourne is Yes Central, churches and all and not just Brunswick far more than Sydmey.

  16. rickw

    I like to think of him as what Monty could have been.

    🙂

    🙂

  17. Bruce in WA

    Paul Murray is a deeply stupid man.

    Beards can have that effect on people.

    Oi, you! That’s enough hirsuteophobia!

  18. hzhousewife

    Surely they have a camera in every corridor and corner and people to monitor them.

    Intourist Leningrad sure operated like that when I was there in January 1976. Plus the phone was tapped.

  19. Bruce in WA

    From another forum I’m a member of. It’s a quote, but unfortunately they didn’t include a link.

    STATISTICS FROM THE US RE FIREARM DEATHS.

    There are 30,000 gun related deaths per year by firearms, and this number is not disputed. U.S. population 324,059,091 as of Wednesday, June 22, 2016. Do the math: 0.000000925% of the population dies from gun related actions each year. Statistically speaking, this is insignificant! What is never told, however, is a breakdown of those 30,000 deaths, to put them in perspective as compared to other causes of death:

    • 65% of those deaths are by suicide, which would never be prevented by gun laws
    • 15% are by law enforcement in the line of duty and justified
    • 17% are through criminal activity, gang and drug related or mentally ill persons – gun violence
    • 3% are accidental discharge deaths

    So technically, “gun violence” is not 30,000 annually, but drops to 5,100. Still too many? Well, first, how are those deaths spanned across the nation?
    • 480 homicides (9.4%) were in Chicago
    • 344 homicides (6.7%) were in Baltimore
    • 333 homicides (6.5%) were in Detroit
    • 119 homicides (2.3%) were in Washington D.C. (a 54% increase over prior years)

    So basically, 25% of all gun crime happens in just 4 cities. All 4 of those cities have strict gun laws, so it is not the lack of law that is the root cause.

    This basically leaves 3,825 for the entire rest of the nation, or about 75 deaths per state. That is an average because some States have much higher rates than others. For example, California had 1,169 and Alabama had 1.

    Now, who has the strictest gun laws by far? California, of course, but understand, so it is not guns causing this. It is a crime rate spawned by the number of criminal persons residing in those cities and states. So if all cities and states are not created equally, then there must be something other than the tool causing the gun deaths.

    Are 5,100 deaths per year horrific? How about in comparison to other deaths? All death is sad and especially so when it is in the commission of a crime but that is the nature of crime. Robbery, death, rape, assault all is done by criminals and thinking that criminals will obey laws is ludicrous. That’s why they are criminals.

    But what about other deaths each year?
    • 40,000+ die from a drug overdose–THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THAT!
    • 36,000 people die per year from the flu, far exceeding the criminal gun deaths
    • 34,000 people die per year in traffic fatalities(exceeding gun deaths even if you include suicide)

    Now it gets good:
    • 200,000+ people die each year (and growing) from preventable medical errors. You are safer in Chicago than when you are in a hospital!

    • 710,000 people die per year from heart disease. It’s time to stop the double cheeseburgers! So what is the point? If Obama and the anti-gun movement focused their attention on heart disease, even a 10% decrease in cardiac deaths would save twice the number of lives annually of all gun-related deaths (including suicide, law enforcement, etc.). A 10% reduction in medical errors would be 66% of the total gun deaths or 4 times the number of criminal homicides……Simple, easily preventable 10% reductions!

    So you have to ask yourself, in the grand scheme of things, why the focus on guns? It’s pretty simple.:
    Taking away guns gives control to governments.

    The founders of this nation knew that regardless of the form of government, those in power may become corrupt and seek to rule as the British did by trying to disarm the populace of the colonies. It is not difficult to understand that a disarmed populace is a controlled populace.

    Thus, the second amendment was proudly and boldly included in the U.S. Constitution. It must be preserved at all costs.

    So the next time someone tries to tell you that gun control is about saving lives, look at these facts and remember these words from Noah Webster: “Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword, because the whole body of the people are armed and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States. A military force at the command of Congress can execute no laws, but such as the people perceive to be just and constitutional; for they will possess the power.”

    Remember, when it comes to “gun control,” the important word is “control,” not “gun.”

  20. rickw

    Vegas and isis gathering momentum:

    If you claim every US gun massacre as your own, then you end up trashing your brand, because it’s untrue and potentially you end up accidentally aligning yourself with orange haired losers who can’t get laid, or use a gun properly.

    So don’t.

    Just claim the ones that are actually yours, or at very least, those that you definitively know were inspired by Islam……

  21. Stimpson J. Cat

    Oi, you! That’s enough hirsuteophobia!

    I f$cking hate beards.
    The fact that I have to shave every two days or I look like a homeless mentally ill man enrages me almost as much as the fact that I look like a mentally ill man after I shave anyway.

  22. rickw

    “If Islamic State’s claims of responsibility for the attack in Las Vegas are false, this would be the first deliberate false claim for an attack in the West issued by the group,” Smith said in a statement published on his Twitter account.

    Making false claims trashes your brand….

  23. rickw

    I f$cking hate beards.
    The fact that I have to shave every two days or I look like a homeless mentally ill man enrages me almost as much as the fact that I look like a mentally ill man after I shave anyway.

    Shaving everywhere? Leaving nothing to chance?!

  24. JC

    I f$cking hate beards.
    The fact that I have to shave every two days or I look like a homeless mentally ill man enrages me almost as much as the fact that I look like a mentally ill man after I shave anyway.

    Run a permanent 5 o’clock shadow like I do. Gillette forced me to buy an electric clipper/razor. I ended up hating that company so, so much I had to do something. Their gouging is extraordinary. 35 bucks for a pack of x razors is larceny.

    Geillette’s hateful business model actually caused their competitor to come back from the brink of failure because a private equity firm saw how customers needed a viable substitute in order to avoid the thieving.

  25. Bruce in WA

    I f$cking hate beards.
    The fact that I have to shave every two days or I look like a homeless mentally ill man enrages me almost as much as the fact that I look like a mentally ill man after I shave anyway.

    At 15 I had to shave twice a day if I was going anywhere that night. I hated it.

    My beard and I have been inseparable for just on 50 years now. We’ve gone from long to short, blond to darker to, now, white.

    My beard IS me.

    True story: When I had a little more hair (still white/grey) and a longer beard, I was standing at the local shopping centre looking in the shop window, waiting for Dearly Beloved. Something tugged my jeans leg. I looked down. It was a little girl, I suppose about 3 or 4. She looked up at me and said, “Hello, Santa”.

    I looked around, couldn’t see a parent. All I could think to do was smile, put my forefinger to my lips and go “Shhhhh”, as conspiratorially as I could.

    With wide eyes, she nodded at me very solemnly and then skipped off.

    Quite made my day 😀

  26. JC

    Tom Petty – American Girl. I’m seeing my version on the weekend. Can’t wait.

  27. MsDolittle

    I’m having lunch in Aiguines right now, in case anybody is wondering.

  28. rickw

    I looked around, couldn’t see a parent. All I could think to do was smile, put my forefinger to my lips and go “Shhhhh”, as conspiratorially as I could.

    With wide eyes, she nodded at me very solemnly and then skipped off.

    Quite made my day 😀

    Nice work!

  29. JC

    MsDolittle
    #2514135, posted on October 3, 2017 at 11:09 pm

    I’m having lunch in Aiguines right now, in case anybody is wondering.

    Near that lake? We had a work conference there years ago. Freaking gorgeous. Enjoy. Enjoy the crepes

  30. Bruce in WA

    I’m having lunch in Aiguines right now, in case anybody is wondering.

    In France. Right, then; that’s buggered up my day. Best I could do was a glass of white and half a Cuban sandwich at a local cafe. France. Harrumph.

  31. Stimpson J. Cat

    I’m having lunch in Aiguines right now, in case anybody is wondering.

    It sounds ethnic, I hope you are OK.

    😁

  32. JC

    It sounds ethnic, I hope you are OK.

    That’s the only problem with the frogs. That and the fact that they claim Nice and the Riviera is French when it’s really Italian…. My mother’s family were from Nice. She still used to talk about the house her grandparents (I think) owned there, before they were chucked out due to an ethnic cleansing.

    Exile. One of the most underrated punishments known to man.

  33. JC

    God he’s fucking boring. So boring. But I suppose making money or investing shouldn’t be a movie studio.

    Warren made an acquisition. He bought majority ownership in a truck stop company.

    Billionaire investor Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway purchased a stake in Pilot Travel Centres, which owns the Pilot Flying J chain of truck stops.

    The investment behemoth agreed to acquire 38.6% of Pilot Flying J, and outlined plans to become the company’s biggest shareholder over a six-year period.

  34. MsDolittle

    Yep JC near the lake. We are staying in Bargemon. The Beckhams have the shack next door.

  35. Bruce in WA

    Everybody gone nigh-nighs. 🙁

  36. Whalehunt Fun

    Only goodness sleeps. The evil that men do is wakeful ever.

  37. Farmer Gez

    Only 7pm in Gopalpur.
    Curry and beer time. G&T later for the Mozzies.

  38. Siltstone

    G&T later for the Mozzies

    Only one?

  39. Stimpson J. Cat

    The evil that men do is wakeful ever.

    The Shadow knows.

  40. Farmer Gez

    Only one?
    Snore too much fully tanked and the wife kicks hard.

  41. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    But they had the contacts, and in the post-war bloodbath got what they wanted: the death of the CMF. But that’s another long, long, conversation!

    That’s a very long conversation indeed. There’s a book around called “The Once and Future Army” about the post war story of the Citizen’s Military Forces.

    During the Viet Nam war, the Regular Army was short of Centurion tank crews. Any C.M.F. “tankies” who volunteered for full time duty were told they would have to be discharged from their unit, and re – enlist in the Regular Army as a recruit, to start all over again. Not surprisingly there were few, if any volunteers.

  42. Fisky

    C.L.
    #2514191, posted on October 4, 2017 at 12:55 am
    No need to limit immigration …

    Britain to limit acid sales after steep rise in assaults.

    Acid attacks will soon overtake the Keynesian Rape Multiplier in their contribution to GDP!

  43. No need to limit immigration …

    Britain to limit acid sales after steep rise in assaults.

    This is a terrible indictment on Western civilization.

  44. If the Liberal Party were not as stupid and as liberal as the ALP, they could fashion a politics right now that would guarantee them the next three elections.

  45. Another day ending in y:

    “The Conversation” misleads on impacts of same sex marriage
    Two pieces in the Australian online forum “The Conversation” today make misleading statements about the possible impacts of the recognition of same-sex marriage in Australia, and warrant some response. One article suggests that there is no doubt that churches will still be able to decline to solemnise same-sex marriages. The other is a “fact check” on assertions about the mandatory nature of “safe schools” programs following such a change. In my view both pieces are likely to mislead.

  46. calli

    I’m on a boat in Ha Long Bay.

    And, becsuse I despise virtue signalling tight *rsery, I always get room service to change the towels daily.

  47. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I’m on a boat in Ha Long Bay.

    It’s a spectacular part of the world, isn’t it, calli?

  48. Pete of Perth

    There’s a pearl shop as you come into the town near Har Long Bay with a picture of Juliar G wearing a pearl necklace. Timmy wasn’t involved.

  49. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I’m looking at one of my old school reports.

    “For a student who appears to spend his time in class, daydreaming, and takes very few notes, I am surprised at the result he achieved.”

  50. Leigh Lowe

    At our hotel in Budapest.
    Just set fire to my towels.
    The hotel towel is a single use item.

  51. srr

    😆

    rickw
    #2514115, posted on October 3, 2017 at 10:49 pm

    I like to think of him as what Monty could have been.

    🙂

    🙂

    But instead we all see him as what he is … speaking of which, is Gavin McInnes speaking with m0nty’s long lost twin –

  52. srr

    😀

    #DEPLORABLE_OZ Retweeted
    David A. Clarke, Jr.‏Verified account @SheriffClarke 13h13 hours ago

    Had the pleasure of meeting with Steve Bannon. What we discussed is private.
    https://twitter.com/SheriffClarke/status/915047214405357569
    That’ll make the left run around like thier hair is on fire.

  53. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    French anti-terror investigators are questioning five people over the discovery of a primed bomb at an apartment bloc in one of Paris’s plushest districts, amid government warnings that France is “still at war”.

  54. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Dog walker and her basset hound Molly find an intact penis and testicles washed up on a beach

    Has anyone seen monstie?

  55. Bruce of Newcastle

    Ouch, nice Ms Cruz will be unhappy with Mr Garrison today. I wouldn’t want to be within throwing distance of her pram when she sees that cartoon.

    Zanetti is excellent too!

  56. stackja

    Peeler, Walter (1887–1968)
    by Anthony Staunton
    This article was published in Australian Dictionary of Biography, Volume 11, (MUP), 1988
    Peeler enlisted as a private in the Australian Imperial Force on 17 February 1916 and embarked with the machine-gun section of the 3rd Pioneer Battalion in June; he was promoted lance corporal on 6 November in France and was slightly wounded by shell-fire during the battle of Messines on 7 June 1917. Peeler was one of twenty-four Lewis-gunners of the 3rd Pioneers who were attached for anti-aircraft duties to the 37th Battalion for the assault on 4 October on Broodseinde Ridge, Belgium. He joined in the first wave, leading an attack against three enemy posts which were sniping the advancing Australians and then turned on a machine-gun post. He accounted for thirty of the enemy and for his fearlessness and fine example was awarded the Victoria Cross. Peeler remarked in 1966: ‘I never saw the faces of those I killed. They were just men in an enemy uniform. It was simply them or me’. Exploitation of the Australian success that day was hampered by heavy rain. The 3rd Pioneers next attacked in shocking conditions on 12 October in the 2nd battle of Passchendaele; Peeler was wounded in the right arm. While recuperating he received his Victoria Cross from King George V at Buckingham Palace on 8 January 1918.

  57. Leigh Lowe

    Leigh Lowe

    #2514209, posted on October 4, 2017 at 2:07 am

    At our hotel in Budapest.

    Bloody autocorrect.
    That should read Bundaberg, not Budapest.

  58. Fergus

    Most multimillionaire snowflakes now standing. How does that old joke go, “Oh,I know what you are, now it’s just haggling over the price”?
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41487808

  59. stackja

    MARK LATHAM: FINALLY, SOMEONE GOES AGAINST THE HERD
    Mark Latham, The Daily Telegraph
    October 3, 2017 12:00am
    Subscriber only
    Recently a friend asked me if I had any smart new ideas for online political communication.

    I’ve spent the last six months dabbling in what’s called ­“alternative media” — blunt opinions on YouTube and Facebook, free from the stifling PC laws inflicted on mainstream media.

    I told my mate to set up an online forum called “Challenge Yourself” — a place where people could get outside the left- and right-wing echo chambers of partisan politics and be exposed to arguments that challenge their pre-existing view of the world.

    It’s an intellectually healthy process.
    We used to call it education: when intelligent people would research facts and pass them on for others to learn the essential truths of their chosen discipline.

    As the father of liberalism, John Stuart Mill, put it: “He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that.”
    Now, in the age of Twitter, politics has become a slag-athon, where personal abuse and innuendo have replaced the ancient art of persuasion.

    For Leyonhjelm, there’s a need to rebalance the role of the public sector, to reduce its intrusiveness and restore individual sovereignty to our national way of life.

    As a libertarian, Leyonhjelm is uneasy about running with the herd.
    His politics are distinctly non-tribal, refusing to bow to the shibboleths of left and right.

    At a personal level, he is quite the character, eccentric even — far removed from the robotic, predictable style of Canberra’s “whitebread” politicians. In the book’s introduction, Leyonhjelm laments of how “being a senator is interfering with (his) semi-retirement”.

    “I am constantly recognised in public, regularly asked for selfies and occasionally abused,” he writes, “As a hitherto private person, that’s not something I enjoy.”

    Few Australian politicians speak with such candour.

    As proof of his independence, over the years, Leyonhjelm has also been a member of the Labor, Liberal, Shooters and Outdoor Recreation parties.

    Like Billy Hughes, he has drawn the line at joining the Nationals.

    Earlier this year I joined his party, the Liberal Democrats, in search of free speech and robust policy debate. On the strength of this book, I’m glad I did.

  60. Herodotus

    The above link shows the two young women, cousins, killed by illegal immigrant in Marseille.
    But of course there’s no linkage between migrants and terrorism.

  61. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I’m on a boat in Ha Long Bay.
    And, becsuse I despise virtue signalling tight *rsery, I always get room service to change the towels daily.

    Lots of Cats are a-travelling at the moment in some very nice places.
    Ha Long Bay is certainly on the list as one of the most spectacular.
    We had a few nights there on one of those quaint old boats, Calli.
    Eccentric plumbing, but otherwise very nice, and good to hear you are changing the towels.
    And that someone else is washing them! Enjoy the luxury of full service hotels and boats. 🙂

  62. 2dogs

    Why did he kill himself?

    Why not keep rampaging?

    In the minds of such people, the decision to kill yourself comes first.

    Then comes the decision to take others out with you.

  63. Tom

    Vegas update:

    1. Vegas sheriff Joseph Lombardo said the shooter, Stephen Paddock, suicided, but Infowars’ Alex Jones, quoting an intelligence source, said Paddock died in a gunfight in the 32nd floor hotel room with the FBI HRT (Hostage Rescue Team).

    2. The HRT found “Antifa information” in the room and a photo of the shooter’s girlfriend, Filipino-Australian Marylou Danley,“in the Middle East”.

    3. Islamic State says Paddock is a “soldier of Islam” who converted to Islam in the past few months. On its track record, IS rarely claims involvement in attacks without foundation. In May, IS called on lone wolves to attack the Vegas strip.

    3. NY Post is reporting that, in the week before the Vegas massacre, Paddock wired $US100,000 to Danley in the Philippines — where Islamic State is leading an insurgency in the south. Danley was in the Philippines on Sunday when Paddock carried out the massacre before she travelled on to Tokyo.

    4. Danley was employed as a “high-limit hostess” at a Vegas casino. Her slot-machine card, which is used to rack up bonuses and other benefits, was found in Paddock’s hotel room. The Vegas cops expect her to return voluntarily for questioning; they have been careful not to alarm her by emphasising she is not a suspect.

    5. Paddock’s old man was a prison escapee and a career criminal who, according to the FBI, had been “diagnosed as psychopath”.

    6. Fox News quotes a government source and a relative of Danley that Paddock was “unstable”.

    7. Paddock, a wealthy real estate investor, had been in the Philippines with Danley as recently as 2013.

    8. A former FBI profiler, Mary Ellen O’Toole, has speculated that Paddock, a frequent traveller, may have had a “secret life”. He has been astute in leaving very little social media footprint that the cops could use to profile him.

    9. Staff had the Mandalay Bay hotel clearly gave Paddock active support while management turned a blind eye to the shipping of 23 firearms, including tripod-mounted semi-automatics (illegally converted to machine guns) and ammunition to his corner room on the 32nd floor.

    10. Paddock had been at the Mandalay Bay hotel since last Thursday preparing the massacre. His target was an audience of 22,000 country music fans – 80 to 90% of whom are Trump voters.

  64. Mother Lode

    Shaving?

    I have lately taken to using the badger hair brush and shaving soap.

    I am astonished by how much better the results are.

    I am working my way up to a safety razor. Then I can fully say ‘fuck Gilette’

  65. Bruce of Newcastle

    I don’t know what to make of this story.

    Passengers Flee in Panic as Commuter Reads Bible Aloud on London Train

    Commuters travelling in South-West London experienced delays Monday morning after passengers on a train forced open the doors and ran onto the tracks to escape a man with a bible.

    The incident took place near Wimbledon station, as a passenger on a packed commuter train started reading lines from the bible. Another passenger asked the man to stop because he was “scaring” others, but it was already too late and panic had set in.

    Are Londoners so skittish that anyone acting in a religious manner is feared now? Do they not know the difference between the bible and the quran? Is it the history of terrorist attacks on trains in Britain? I really don’t know but it tells me two things: something is seriously wrong with our civilization, and lefty pollies who want people to ditch the family car ain’t going to be successful any time soon.

  66. John Constantine

    Back to basics, the left roll out waleed, their golden calf, and he denounces Trump on schedule.

    Their left proudly proclaim that progressive policies have disarmed Australia and the proles are now complying contentedly with the required:

    Flee
    Cower
    Beg

    response as required by the State.

    Their waleed action doll had been put back in the closet for the gay marriage push, but will be out again full time all too soon.

  67. Mike of Marion

    Bruce in WA
    #2514132, posted on October 3, 2017 at 11:06 pm

    Hear, hear!

  68. rickw

    Are Londoners so skittish that anyone acting in a religious manner is feared now? Do they not know the difference between the bible and the quran? Is it the history of terrorist attacks on trains in Britain? I really don’t know but it tells me two things: something is seriously wrong with our civilization, and lefty pollies who want people to ditch the family car ain’t going to be successful any time soon.

    Yep, because the threat of islam has been re-cast as the threat of religion and specifically Christianity.

  69. Baldrick

    It must be a day ending in ‘y’. More climate porn, courtesy of TheirABC:

    Sydney and Melbourne have been warned to prepare for scorcher days reaching 50 degree Celsius by the end of the century — even if global warming is contained to the Paris Agreement target of a 2C increase.
    A new study led by Australian National University (ANU) climate scientist Dr Sophie Lewis has projected daily temperatures 3.8C above existing records for the two cities and even hotter extremes.

  70. stackja

    Baldrick
    #2514278, posted on October 4, 2017 at 7:45 am

    Dr Sophie Lewis. ARC DECRA Fellow. ANU College of Science
    I am an early career academic at a university in Australia. My PhD was awarded in 2011 investigating long-term changes in the Australian monsoon system.

  71. Tom

    Wow. Vegas Sheriff Joe Lombardo has just let slip that the Route 91 concert shooter Stephen Paddock had been “radicalised”.

  72. Fergus

    Nothing yet on the movement of his two planes. Might not have had US military training but some other, and earlier than isis.
    Undercover?

  73. zyconoclast

    Exclusive: West Point Professor Who Mentored Antifa Soldier on Administrative Leave

    The West Point mentor of a soldier now under investigation by the Army for engaging in political activity while in uniform is on administrative leave, Breitbart News has learned.
    The adviser is Rasheed Hosein, a professor of Middle East history, who was in charge of Second Lieutenant Spenser Rapone’s development at West Point.

  74. Fergus

    “?”after ‘isis’

  75. Baldrick

    Dr Sophie Lewis. ARC DECRA Fellow. ANU College of Science
    I am an early career academic at a university in Australia. My PhD was awarded in 2011 investigating long-term changes in the Australian monsoon system.

    I predict a big future for Ms Lewis. After studying the climate for only 6 years, she’s already well and truly ensconced on the climate gravy train.

  76. John Comnenus

    First leaked photos of the Las Vegas shooter crime scene show clearly that Paddock left a note. It would not seem much of a stretch to say that his motive is contained in the note and that, therefore, his motives are basically known.

    What was in the note? What we his motives?

  77. zyconoclast

    Are Londoners so skittish that anyone acting in a religious manner is feared now? Do they not know the difference between the bible and the quran? Is it the history of terrorist attacks on trains in Britain? I really don’t know but it tells me two things: something is seriously wrong with our civilization, and lefty pollies who want people to ditch the family car ain’t going to be successful any time soon.

    I think they might be fearing becoming collateral damage when some bearded freak goes all machete on the bible reader.

    Not only might they get hacked up, they will be charged by the police for blunting the machete with their skulls and sent the dry cleaning bill for removing the blood from Mr machete clothes.

  78. Ssm and commerce

    This came up on the Cat radar yesterday. It’s effectively a rubbish argument.

  79. zyconoclast

    Shaving?

    I have lately taken to using the badger hair brush and shaving soap.

    Ever tried the beaver hair before shaving?

  80. Rabz

    Braindead hugely unwatched televisual dinosaur meeja update eleventy gazillion and fifty five:

    Nine chief Hugh Marks has won a generous payrise, despite the broadcaster’s recent $203 million annual loss.

    Mr Marks took home $2.77 million in the year to June 30 — including a salary of $1.38 million, cash bonuses of $895,000, and shares worth almost $450,000 — Nine Entertainment revealed in its annual report on Tuesday.

    Unbelievable. His remuneration was a mere 1.4% of their latest loss. I tried watching Nein on the weekend and was horrified at how offensive and crap it was. The sooner these collectives of imbecility collapse, the better.

    However, another taxpayer bailout is far more likely.

  81. Entropy

    The incident took place near Wimbledon station, as a passenger on a packed commuter train started reading lines from the bible. Another passenger asked the man to stop because he was “scaring” others, but it was already too late and panic had set in.

    Are Londoners so skittish that anyone acting in a religious manner is feared now? Do they not know the difference between the bible and the quran? Is it the history of terrorist attacks on trains in Britain? I really don’t know but it tells me two things: something is seriously wrong with our civilization, and lefty pollies who want people to ditch the family car ain’t going to be successful any time soon.

    To be fair, I would be pretty annoyed at some nutter imposing his religious views on me in a small crowded space.

  82. Boambee John

    Muddy at 2230

    They were a mixed bunch.

    Blamey might be summed up by Churchill’s assessment of Haig, paraphrased: Whatever his failings, no other stood out as a possible replacement. The only real contender was Rowell, but he preferred to be sacked on a matter of principle, that a commander should be left to do his job, while neglecting another principle that a subordinate cannot be continually insubordinate. Rowell’s autobiography Full Circle is worth reading.

    I haven’t read the Berryman bio, but he seems to have been behind the scenes at many critical times, being Machiavellian. That said, he was willing to go against the grain to a degree, offering sympathy to Tubby Allen when others avoided him.

    Vasey was the stand out among the regulars, but even he was ruled by ambition, being reluctant to take over from Allen on the Track. He thought being “stuck in those mountains” was bad karma.

    Robertson’s bio by Jeffrey Grey, Australian Brass, is worth a read. I think Grey wanted to build him up, and did his best to, but the material was lacking. His health problem in Greece was varicose veins; these did not prevent him commanding 19 Bde in the advance to Benghazi, where the prospects for glory were clear, but provided an excuse not to go to Greece, where disaster loomed.

    I have a soft spot for both Allen and Savige. Neither stands out as a new Monash, but both cared for their troops. There is a photo of the senior officers of the 6th Division in late 1940. All except Allen and Savige wear officers’ pattern uniforms; they are in OR’s pattern.

    To expand a bit on Bennett, I think he had a legal right to escape, but a moral duty to stay with his troops. I have little doubt that, in his place, Allen or Savige would have stayed. Not that it would have made much difference, as the Japanese soon moved the senior officers to Japan or Manchuria.

    Don’t want to clag up the thread too much, if you like, ask the Doomlord for my email address.

  83. Mother Lode

    Ever tried the beaver hair before shaving?

    You mean this?

  84. Entropy

    Ssm and commerce

    This came up on the Cat radar yesterday. It’s effectively a rubbish argument.

    Having just attended a wedding in wine country I suspect cost easily in the vicinity of a quarter mill (not counting honeymoon), there might be something in it.

    On the other hand, I suspect that kind of excess will end up being the hallmark of homosexual weddings, while hetero ones become less outlandish over time rather than compete, reducing the economic significance of weddings overall.

  85. Boambee John

    Zulu at 1256

    During the Viet Nam war, the Regular Army was short of Centurion tank crews. Any C.M.F. “tankies” who volunteered for full time duty were told they would have to be discharged from their unit, and re – enlist in the Regular Army as a recruit, to start all over again. Not surprisingly there were few, if any volunteers.

    Paul Cullen offered to organise and support a CMF battalion in Vietnam. The offer was declined.

  86. Mother Lode

    To be fair, I would be pretty annoyed at some nutter imposing his religious views on me in a small crowded space.

    That was my take too.

    Reading the Bible is one thing, but suddenly barking it out in a closed carriage will make anyone nervous? It is strange behaviour and that would have been the trigger of panic. And if he was actively reading it to people (fixing them with his eyes, or even moving about the carriage) then it would be more uncomfortable. But even if he didn’t do that people would wonder what he was at…and might do yet.

  87. Geriatric Mayfly

    Ever tried the beaver hair before shaving?
    You mean this?

    Beat me to it ML. I was going to say that Mizzz Lambie would be an ideal source in the supply chain.

  88. Tom,
    How does a FBI HRT deploy to Mandalay so quickly ? If they have one in LV how many such teams would there be around USA ?

    What is to be gained by saying he suicided if in fact law enforcement killed him on entry ?

  89. I haven’t read the Berryman bio – I haven’t read the Berryman bio

    I have. We share some genes. He was a good guy.

  90. stackja

    Boambee John
    #2514310, posted on October 4, 2017 at 8:46 am

    I have read the Official Histories – Second World War. Many personality clashes.

  91. Tom

    BrettW, I am as interested in the answers to your questions as you are.

  92. stackja

    Christian student at High Court to appeal uni ban
    Tue 03 Oct 2017
    By Premier Journalist
    The High Court is hearing the case of Felix Ngole, a Christian student who was expelled from university for expressing his Christian views on same-sex marriage on Facebook.

  93. C.L.

    Labour politicians joke about assassination of Prince George, prompting this response from the great James Woods:

    James Woods‏Verified account
    @RealJamesWoods

    Across the globe #liberals are the slime beneath our feet. They are the primordial ooze of humanity. #Vile

    Yep.

  94. Bruce of Newcastle

    What is to be gained by saying he suicided if in fact law enforcement killed him on entry ?

    He suicided. Unless the tac team could stick a firearm into his mouth and pull the trigger without any sign of struggle.

    Vegas Shooter Filmed Himself During Slaughter, May Have Left A Note; Suicide Photo Emerges

    The photo, which is extremely graphic, is at the bottom of the article.

  95. stackja

    Las Vegas shooting: Stephen Paddock spent thousands on gambling before massacre
    Sarah Blake in Las Vegas, staff writers, wires, News Corp Australia Network
    11 minutes ago

    US police say the Las Vegas sniper who fired at a country music festival crowd from a 32nd floor hotel room “extensively” planned the massacre.

    Authorities have revealed the incredible efforts 64-year-old gunman Stephen Paddock went to as the footage from inside his lair in the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino emerged. At least 59 people are dead and 527 were injured in the gunfire.

  96. Mother Lode

    The High Court is hearing the case of Felix Ngole, a Christian student who was expelled from university for expressing his Christian views on same-sex marriage on Facebook.

    SSM is not the law of the land – yet, anyway.

    That marriage is between a man and a woman is.

    How can they expel a kid for supporting the law?

    I know the SSM drones want to pretend that SSM is effectively legal, and objections to it are effectively illegal, but it simply isn’t.

  97. C.L.

    Xyx on Miz Cate.
    Burn.
    Cross-dressing lunatics running the asylum

    Brilliant.

  98. Geriatric Mayfly

    Labour politicians joke about assassination of Prince George, prompting this response from the great James Woods:
    Dent Coad has refused to apologize, according to the paper. She said her comments were “clearly intended as a joke” and had been taken out of context.

    The Trad Defence has gone global.

  99. Boambee John

    Muddy

    Another who deserves some attention was Stantke, the Adjutant General. He sat with Morshead on the Army inquiry that found fault with Bennett.

    However as AG, he must bear some responsibility for the despatch of some 2000 untrained reinforcements to Singapore in January 1942. I am certain that these men contributed to the breakdown in discipline in the 8th Division just before the surrender. He should have faced an inquiry himself, and had much incentive to keep the focus on Bennett.

  100. Motherlode, the case is before the High Court in the UK. But it portends what is very likely to happen here if marriage is redefined.

  101. Andrew

    Sydney and Melbourne have been warned to prepare for scorcher days reaching 50 degree Celsius by the end of the century — even if global warming is contained to the Paris Agreement target of a 2C increase.
    A new study led by Australian National University (ANU) climate scientist Dr Sophie Lewis has projected daily temperatures 3.8C above existing records for the two cities and even hotter extremes.

    Sydney (CBD) had a mild climate, rarely reaching 30C unlike Penriff. This loon thinks SYD will routinely experience 50C if the world warms 2C (which as we are told, is more in the Arctic and less elsewhere)? And even more at the extreme days?

    I take it the “study” resulted in failing her PhD and expulsion?

  102. Snoopy

    The photo, which is extremely graphic, is at the bottom of the article.

    The blood on the floor is one of the more tasteful decor features of that room. Shaynna would have a fit.

  103. notafan

    The ABC; marriage exemptions would be bad for business, yeah right.


    Follow the money

  104. Senile Old Guy

    With the recent tragedy/crime in the US, there are now a flood of pieces on gun control. I quoted one or two yesterday. Here’s another which says the same stupid thing:

    Restricting access to guns and their purchase is associated with reductions in firearm deaths.

    Well, duh! Guess what? “Restricting access to knives and their purchase is associated with reductions in stabbing deaths”. And “restricting access to rocks and their purchase is associated with reductions in stoning deaths”. And “restricting access to lengths of 4 by 2…” But I have made my point.

    Sadly, people will try to harm and kill other people and will, likely, use the easiest way to do that. Here’s a summary from an academic study:

    Aiming to meet this challenge, we systematically reviewed studies exploring the associations between firearm-related laws and firearm homicides, suicides, and unintentional injuries/deaths. We restricted our search to studies published from 1950 to 2014. Evidence from 130 studies in 10 countries suggests that in certain nations the simultaneous implementation of laws targeting multiple firearms restrictions is associated with reductions in firearm deaths.

    This problem is not restricted to the issue of firearms. Medical studies routinely announce that implementing strategy X against Y reduces deaths due to Y without talking about (a) whether there is any significant increase in the length or quality of life; or (b) whether there is an overall decrease in the death rate. Without information on (a) and (b), you cannot decide about X.

    In the US, the recent mass murder was due to guns. You cannot get guns so easily in, say, the UK or France. So there have been no recent mass murder events in those countries? Right? It is also not so easy to (legally) get guns here in Oz; so noone has been shot and killed recently, right?

  105. Mother Lode

    Thanks nota and DB.

    Portends indeed.

    What makes it worse, is that our local activists are unable to even contain themselves and are slavering at the prospect of persecuting (and prosecuting) Christians.

    At least overseas they paid lip service to protecting freedoms while agitating for the change.

  106. The ugliness of the surrogacy industry

    Gutless decision by SCOTUS to let this go through to the keeper.

  107. Baldrick

    Until they establish a motive for Paddock’s attack, this is the way to go:

    Live Monitor @amlivemon
    If you aren’t American, kindly excuse yourself from our internal legal debate on gun control. Thank you.

  108. Andrew

    calli
    #2514203, posted on October 4, 2017 at 1:39 am
    I’m on a boat in Ha Long Bay.

    And, becsuse I despise virtue signalling tight *rsery, I always get room service to change the towels daily.

    Actual conversation with an Asian chick in Shanghai.

    AC: I’m going on a cruise to Vietnam.
    Me: Ha Long?
    AC: About 5 days

  109. Senile Old Guy

    Oh dear! I should have read a bit further in that article.

    South Africa’s comprehensive Firearm Control Act, passed in 2000, contained all these measures. One study found that firearm homicides in five major South African cities decreased by 13.6 percent per year for the next five years.

    South Africa?!?!?! Someone is citing South Africa? Wikipedia:

    Crime is a prominent issue in South Africa. The country has a very high rate of murders, assaults, rapes (adult, child, elderly and infant), and other crimes compared to most countries. Most emigrants from South Africa state that crime was a big factor in their decision to leave. A survey for the period 1990–2000 compiled by the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime ranked South Africa second for assault and murder (by all means) per capita and first for rapes per capita in a data set of 60 countries. Total crime per capita was 10th out of the 60 countries in the dataset.

    You may be less likely to be shot in South Africa, but you are more likely to be stabbed, beaten or “necklaced”.

  110. C.L.

    The UK High Court case is interesting for what it says about grievance poker.
    A black Christian man was expelled from uni by a white lesbian committeewoman.
    Sorry, black folk. Homosexuality is the new trump card.

  111. Senile Old Guy

    Actual ABC headling:

    WA gold royalty hike: Debt-busting new tax could be killed off as Opposition support wavers

    What about a “debt busting” cut in spending?

  112. Andreas

    It probably won’t now make the news, but a major corporation here threatened to sack its IT director for very mildly expressing his views on SSM. He was hauled up to explain to them why he shouldn’t be fired. At the meeting his lawyer (a former judge) made it very clear to them why he shouldn’t and they ended up backing down, although they still tried to extract an apology (they didn’t get one). If SSM is passed I imagine he would have been fired.

  113. Senile Old Guy

    The ABC is just about the last place I would go to for useful information. After being let off the leash by Michelle Guthrie they have become worse.

    Meanwhile, the killings continue. Not just headline-grabbing massacres like Las Vegas, Orlando or Sandy Hook, but literally hundreds of other mass killings claiming 10,000 American lives each year. But gun rights proponents deny there is any connection between that statistic and having military-style machine guns in the hands of anyone who pays a few hundred bucks. And those gun sales are soaring, fuelled by fears of a crackdown. The US produced 11 million guns in the year after Sandy Hook — doubling the number of just two years before the massacre. We’ve seen the devastation caused to Puerto Rico, Houston, and parts of Florida from a historically devastating hurricane season, made demonstrably worse, scientists say, by warmer waters and higher sea levels.

    Yes, you read that correctly. A piece about the recent mass murder also talks about global warming. Ass for murder, you can go to this page and you will find that the US is…number 94 on the list for murder rates. To be fair, most of the countries higher up are in Africa, South America or the Caribbean, none of which are particularly peaceful locations.

  114. stackja

    Boambee John
    #2514310, posted on October 4, 2017 at 8:46 am
    Muddy at 2230

    They were a mixed bunch.

    Blamey might be summed up by Churchill’s assessment of Haig, paraphrased: Whatever his failings, no other stood out as a possible replacement. The only real contender was Rowell, but he preferred to be sacked on a matter of principle, that a commander should be left to do his job, while neglecting another principle that a subordinate cannot be continually insubordinate. Rowell’s autobiography Full Circle is worth reading.

    Yes, Blamey was the one. ALP did not like him.

  115. stackja

    Senile Old Guy
    #2514368, posted on October 4, 2017 at 10:17 am

    Always Biased Comment.

  116. Marcus

    Actual ABC headling:

    WA gold royalty hike: Debt-busting new tax could be killed off as Opposition support wavers

    What about a “debt busting” cut in spending?

    Unbelievable. The gold royalty hike is hardly “debt-busting.” In fact, it will raise from memory about $170m per year, while debt will top at $43bn.

    That’s higher than it was heading under Barnett and the Liberals, by the way, but don’t expect the ABC or the West to make much mention of that.

  117. marcus classis

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2514122, posted on October 3, 2017 at 10:58 pm
    Oi, you! That’s enough hirsuteophobia!

    I f$cking hate beards.
    The fact that I have to shave every two days or I look like a homeless mentally ill man enrages me almost as much as the fact that I look like a mentally ill man after I shave anyway.

    Yeah, what Bruce said!

    You just have to work on a crazy bloke’s beard.

    Whatever you do, avoid the ‘permanent five o’clock shadow’ look so beloved of hipsters, SJW prancers and those very strange homosexuals one of my gay cousins calls “the really faggotty faggots”!

    (He’s a bear, he can say stuff like that.)

  118. max

    The incident took place near Wimbledon station, as a passenger on a packed commuter train started reading lines from the bible.

    How long before reading the Bible aloud in public is classed as ‘another terrorist attack by right wing extremists’ ?

  119. Blamey might be summed up by “The AU general who has been closest to causing a large scale revolt of the troops under his command.”
    Total dickhead.

  120. notafan
    #2514329, posted on October 4, 2017 at 9:14 am
    Xyx on Miz Cate.
    Burn.

    Indeed.
    I enjoyed the theory about the boom in trans identification.
    That concept also applies to identifying as gay. Any shyness towards the opposite sex is amplified in some people as same sex attraction, because that is now fashionable and promoted so much by media, schools, unis, and corporations.
    A grandson came home from a recent ADFA open day with a prominent booklet about LGBTI staff and processes. “Loud and Proud” was once a gay saying; now it’s a fact of life.

  121. teddy bear

    “Loud and Proud” is a way to describe a fart, just like “Silent and violent”. At least that’s what I remember from when I was a kid.

  122. Arky

    Total dickhead

    ..
    “Rabbits who run get shot” wasn’t it?

  123. stackja

    incoherent rambler
    #2514382, posted on October 4, 2017 at 10:39 am
    Blamey might be summed up by “The AU general who has been closest to causing a large scale revolt of the troops under his command.”
    Total dickhead.

    Anecdotes?

  124. stackja

    Arky
    #2514387, posted on October 4, 2017 at 10:53 am
    Total dickhead

    ..
    “Rabbits who run get shot” wasn’t it?

    Misquoted. Read the official history.

  125. Tom

    Tony Shaffer, one of America’s most experienced and acclaimed military intelligence analysts, says the evidence in the Las Vegas massacre is staring the FBI in the face: the shooter, 64-year-old white guy Stephen Paddock, is virtually demographically identical to James Hodgkinson, the 66-year-old Bernie Sanders fan who opened fire on Republican congressmen at baseball practice in June. The difference is that Paddock has kept himself off social media, which is why people who should know better claim to be mystified about his motive in attacking a crowd of 22,000 gun-loving, country music-loving Trump voters in Las Vegas. Shaffer says nobody should be surprised because the left — and the Democratic Party — have normalised political violence: Antifa is bashing opponents and setting fire to buildings; arts luvvies are staging plays depicting the assassination of Trump.

    The second US Civil War is now underway.

  126. notafan

    At least two of the weapons had been set up on tripods at windows overlooking the concert site, and more than one had been modified with a mechanical device to depress the trigger faster than a finger, simulating automatic machine gun fire.

    Police said they believe he used 10 suitcases to smuggle the weapons up to the room, which he had checked into using Ms Danley’s ID four days earlier.


    more detail on the killings

  127. Chris

    Tripods? That is very unusual.

  128. Re trans boom that is now being followed by large numbers of ‘sex-change’ reversals, I would love to see ambulance chasing lawyers pursuing class actions against medico-legal-SJW organisations that have promoted an epidemic of sex-change procedures among children, etc.

  129. notafan

    Tom that appears more logical that then wafer thin Philippine Muslim connection.

  130. John Constantine

    Their top level vicpol are proclaiming that guns were stolen from legal storage in a registered gun owners house, while they were away on holiday.

    Vicpol out to make police created law, and have the State hold all guns centrally controlled a d only sign them out to owners upon written request.

    The gold map that is the current vicpol accessible registry of who owns which guns and where they are located is never mentioned as information, for sale by dodgy vicpol employees, to crooks.

  131. Tim Neilson

    The UK High Court case is interesting for what it says about grievance poker.
    A black Christian man was expelled from uni by a white lesbian committeewoman.
    Sorry, black folk. Homosexuality is the new trump card.

    The student should [pretend to] convert to Islam, say exactly the same things, and demand to be readmitted to the course.

  132. Chris

    The UK High Court case is interesting for what it says about grievance poker.
    A black Christian man was expelled from uni by a white lesbian committeewoman.
    Sorry, black folk. Homosexuality is the new trump card.

    The student should [pretend to] convert to Islam, say exactly the same things, and demand to be readmitted to the course.

    This is likely to be a deeper issue than an individual vile SJW academic pulling shit against Christians.

    See what course he was in? SOCIAL WORK. A Christian I know is in a related course, and the ethics involved are quite dramatically enforced: you CANNOT use judgmental language or in any way imply criticism of ‘client choices’.
    And this is at a Catholic university.

    My prediction is that this guy will lose his case; the problem is systemic not individual discrimination.

  133. Tom

    Tom that appears more logical that then wafer thin Philippine Muslim connection.

    Nota, we shouldn’t exclude the possibility, as ISIS claims, that Stephen Paddock converted to Islam and became an ISIS lone wolf to attack Trump’s America, which appears to have been his objective. Rememeber Trump and Mattis are kicking ISIS’s arse in Syria and Iraq and it is in desperate need of a propaganda victory.

    Never forget ISIS and Antifa are effectively the military wings of the Democratic Party and the Western left.

  134. Infidel Tiger

    Makes far more sense that this was political than anything else.

  135. Anecdotes?

    From relations (inc. Lt-General, a Major) and various WW2 troops (neighbours mainly).
    The Major hated him with a passion.
    Some quotes –
    “We were ready to shoot the bastard.”
    “He killed as many good men as the japs.”
    “No food, guns or ammo and the bastard had the gall to criticize the men who were doing the fighting.”
    “If it wasn’t for sergeant [can’t remember the name] we would have killed him.”
    “A self promoter who was only interested in his ‘career’.”
    The farmer neighbours stories were a little more colourful.
    Lots of other one-liners that are receding in the fog of memory. But you get the gist. I never heard a good word about him.

    One of the relatives funerals (a private) attended by a hoard of ex diggers, was, amongst other things (lots of drinking), a blamey hate fest.

  136. C.L.

    Speaking of the great James Woods, LOL – the dude is brutal.

  137. stackja

    incoherent rambler
    #2514412, posted on October 4, 2017 at 11:19 am

    Interesting!

  138. C.L.

    Meanwhile, the killings continue. Not just headline-grabbing massacres like Las Vegas, Orlando or Sandy Hook, but literally hundreds of other mass killings claiming 10,000 American lives each year.

    And yet the Democrat Party still won’t distance itself from Planned Parenthood.

  139. stackja

    James Howard Woods is an American actor and producer. He is known primarily for playing villainous roles, and has appeared in a variety of films, including The Way We Were, The Onion Field, Videodrome, … Wikipedia

  140. notafan

    We’ll see.

    The target is clearly the Trumpian heartland, the appalling social media comment makes that plain.

    As to Democrats/antifa/islam it seems poisonous politics to me, or maybe a general hatred of humanity.

  141. stackja

    Accident of the Airbus A380 registered F-HPJE and operated by Air France on 30/09/2017 cruising over Greenland, investigation delegated to the BEA by the authorities of Denmark
    Information for October 3, 2017
    Following the accident at the Airbus A380, registered F-HPJE, cruising over Greenland, the Danish civil aviation authorities delegated to the BEA the opening and conduct of the safety investigation . The BEA represents France, the State of the operator, the registration and design of the aircraft. Investigators from Havarikommissionen, representing Denmark, State of Occurrence, of the NTSB, representing the United States, State of Engine Manufacturers, and the TSB, representing Canada, the State where the crew was diverted, security.
    Four BEA investigators went to Goose Bay Sunday 1 st of October, accompanied by advisers from Airbus and Air France. NTSB investigators, accompanied by General Electric, Pratt & Whitney and TSB engineers, also visited the site.
    A fifth BEA investigator traveled to Ottawa to attend the first reading of the data recorded in the Parameter Recorder (FDR). This reading made it possible to confirm the place where the damage occurred.

  142. struth

    This is not to excuse perps., but you can’t help but wonder if the pressure is getting to people.

    Where’s “punch a Nazi” Monty?

    Surely there is good reason for a raging lefty to open fire on a large assembly of Trump voters, who like every other act of violence, occurs without provocation bar disagreement.

    We know this is what happened.
    It was planned.
    The response from the authorities tells you all you need to know.

    The states will have it’s non MSM onto this and gradually, it will come out, but the authorities know that stalling is the best tactic when faced with more left wing violence.
    If you want to stop gun violence ban leftism.
    It is either directly, or indirectly responsible for about 90% of it.
    Most black upon black deaths are caused by the situation the left has created.
    Most violence in Aboriginal communities (without guns) is caused by living in pure socialist hellholes.

  143. Mother Lode

    He is known primarily for playing villainous roles

    I have always thought that good actors are happy enough to play bad people.

    It is not sufficient in itself of course, but it does mean that they are not too obsessed with always seeming paragons of conspicuous virtue, which happens a lot in Hollywood now.

    There is probably a bit of work ethic in there too – “Hey, it’s work.”

  144. Motelier

    Just a question.

    What is the best way to disarm a country?

  145. struth

    This is not to excuse perps., but you can’t help but wonder if the pressure is getting to people.

    Bloody hell , that’s not the quote

    the evidence in the Las Vegas massacre is staring the FBI in the face: the shooter,

    That is.

  146. Joe

    struth:

    If you want to stop gun violence ban leftism.

    Interesting that in an Australia in which the right is losing to the left, the only organised violence is in regard to the SSM question. Anecdotal evidence that the left is inherently childish and violent when they don’t get their way.

  147. Diogenes

    The second US Civil War is now still underway.

    Just finished watching the Burns documentaries on the Vietnam War.

    I came away with impression that there were 2 ‘civil wars’ going on, the official one in Vietnam, the other in the US which was fought on 3 fronts -antiwar, feminisim and racism (all fueled by the left) .

    Is what we are seeing now a continuation of that, which had an unofficial cease fire from the left as they burrowed into the institutions or a new one ?

  148. C.L.

    Aussies don’t get US on guns: PM

    9:05AM RACHEL BAXENDALE
    Malcolm Turnbull says the politics around gun ownership in America are “almost beyond comprehension” to most Australians.

    Aussies are people who agree that riding a bike to the shops without a helmet is a police matter.

  149. Tom

    Breaking: Jeff Kennett has been reappointed president of the Hawthorn Football Club following the resignation of Richard Garvey — the clown who hired the incompetent wymmynses CEO who was sacked after less than five months in the job.

  150. Tom

    Is what we are seeing now a continuation of that, which had an unofficial cease fire from the left as they burrowed into the institutions or a new one ?

    Diogenes, the anti-war era didn’t include the mass murder of the left’s political enemies. This one does.

  151. struth

    This shooter was a scum sucking, Asian whoring, dirty old lefty, and we know it.

    A totalitarian and a piece of shit that the authorities are covering for.

    Why are they covering for him.
    If anything linked him to our side of politics they wouldn’t even wait for verification.
    Let’s not kid ourselves.
    The answer lies in the actions of the authorities.
    We should know that by now.

  152. struth

    Aussies don’t get US on guns: PM

    Malcom certainly does.

    Put your security away, Malcom.

  153. Tom

    Ahahaha. Pardon the indulgence: the Paywallian has pulled off the clickbait stunt of the year — a three-par brief from AAP:

    Climate change could sentence Melbourne and Sydney to 50-degree days by the turn of the century, with other Australian cities also on track for unprecedented extreme heat, a new study warns.

    The study, led by the Australian National University, warns that even if the world keeps its Paris climate change pact commitments to limit warming to well below two degrees, Australia will be baking.

    “Major Australian cities, such as Sydney and Melbourne, may experience unprecedented temperatures of 50 degrees Celsius under 2 degrees of global warming. The increase in Australian summer temperatures indicates other major cities should also be prepared for unprecedented future extreme heat,” says lead climate researcher Dr Sophie Lewis.

    So far, the AAP brief has attracted 320+ comments!

    That’s clickbait mastery, folks. Daily Mail, eat your heart out!

    Link.

  154. Robber Baron

    At catholic hospital now. Just overheard two jihadi bearded lads saying that this hospital is disrespectful to muslims because they don’t have a prayer room. These people should look at each wall and see crucifixes and work out they are in a christian place.

  155. Snoopy

    Didn’t Jeff Kennett bequeath Beyond Blue to Gillard?

  156. Diogenes

    Tom,
    I see it as the same struggle, and you need to remember the actions of the Weathermen, Black Panthers, Symbian Liberation Army were inherently violent etc etc. When they realised violence was counterproductive it was toned down mightily (which Burns seems to acknowledge in either ep 9 or 10) .

    An unofficial unilateral ‘cease fire’ from the fall of the War , lead to changed tactics to infiltrate the institutions to prepare the ground, which having done so, allowed them to push the limits, given the supposed ‘closeness*’ of the 2016 election result, and the official approval of the black wing of the revolution by Obama, and the feminist wing by Shillary they are trying it on.

    *which included a huge number of illegal votes

  157. Diogenes

    e fall of the War ,

    fall of the Wall

  158. Geriatric Mayfly

    Climate change could sentence Melbourne and Sydney to 50-degree days by the turn of the century, with other Australian cities also on track for unprecedented extreme heat, a new study warns.

    Those temperatures are not uncommon in western India and around the Gulf during summer. So for those parts the extra 10 or 20 degrees will prevail as well. ‘Gunna be a scorcher today Omar, 70 the top temp.’

  159. Mother Lode

    Malcolm Turnbull says the politics around gun ownership in America are “almost beyond comprehension” to most Australians.

    The turd should come clean and admit he doesn’t understand it either. It is not because Americans are some kind of aliens, but that there are certain beliefs and traditions that underpin their attitude to guns.

    Maolcolm snuffles around a cloistered self-absorbed set who would never dream of sullying their elevated minds with other people’s inferior beliefs.

    The limitations of the man are legion. Is there anything at all of worth that the man can be said to possess in even middling quantities? Even the mediocre are…at least mediocre.

    If he was rendered down and the fluids distilled to their purest form, it would be stored in a bottle labelled ‘100% Pure Disappointment’.

  160. Roger

    Diogenes,

    Rudi Dutschke was the 1960s Marxist student activist who, through reading Gramsci, rejected revolutionary violence and confrontation as counter-productive and advocated instead revolution from within via a”long march through the institutions” of Western society (he, not Gramsci, coined the phrase). He was the original watermelon, joining the nascent German Greens in 1970.

    Given that the revolutionary movement of the 1960s was internationalist, Dutschke’s influence as a theorist is key.

  161. Geriatric Mayfly

    At catholic hospital now. Just overheard two jihadi bearded lads saying that this hospital is disrespectful to muslims because they don’t have a prayer room.

    Aren’t they supposed to carry a prayer mat for emergencies? Allah’s clock chimes, drop mat, raise bum to sky, problem solved.

  162. marcus classis

    Mother Lode:

    Is there anything at all of worth that the man can be said to possess in even middling quantities?

    I have got nothing.

  163. Joe

    Malcolm Turnbull says the politics around gun ownership in America are “almost beyond comprehension” to most Australians.

    Would even dare to say that if only men voted?

  164. Roger

    These people should look at each wall and see crucifixes and work out they are in a christian place.

    And once they get their prayer room, they’ll be demanding the removal of the crucifixes because they are offensive to Muslims.

  165. H B Bear

    New thread. Now piss off.

  166. bear Necessities

    I thought Kennett had served his allowable quota of years on the Hawks board? We meet again Clarko!

  167. Senile Old Guy

    Waleed Aly really is reprehensible, left wing scum:

    IN A despairing response to the mass shooting in Las Vegas, Waleed Aly has hit out at US politicians, saying they are too cowardly to face up to the real reason a seemingly ordinary man managed to kill almost 60 people. “The truth about this act is not how evil it is, but how incredibly ordinary it has become,” he said on Tuesday’s night’s show on Channel 10. “This will happen again.”

    Waleed will now denounce Muslim terrorists for their evil acts…any day now. As I noted in an earlier post, the US is number 94 on the list of countries with high murder rates. And I also noted how hard it is to legally get guns in the UK, meaning there are no mass murders there, right?

    Aly said Paddock, who has been described as a “regular guy”, had no criminal record, no ties to religious or terror groups as far as his family knew, no mental health issues and no military or weapons training. “And yet, he was capable of pulling off a military-grade attack on US soil.”

    A “military grade attack”? By this, a gun in a truck can pull of a “military grade attack”. Is it any wonder 10 is tanking, given the level of stupidity on The Project.

    In the aftermath of the attack, Trump labelled the shooting as an, “act of pure evil”. But Aly said that description was “hiding something” — just how depressing regular shootings on US soil have become.

    Okay, Aly, now you will be commenting on how “depressing” Muslim attacks, well, everywhere have become. Or are you “hiding something”.

    “Over the last 50 years, per capita, the number of guns in America has doubled, from one for every two people, to one for every one person.”

    Which makes it odd that the murder rate in the US has halved since about 1980.

    But don’t let facts get in the way of a good story, Waleed: you never have before.

  168. Dr Faustus

    We’re Powering Forward [apparently]

    As Australia continues to grow and modernise, we need new ways to power that transformation. That’s why the Australian Government has been planning, funding and building a new energy system – powering forward to a better energy future.

    As Australia’s energy system transitions, the Australian Government is making energy more affordable for households, workplaces and businesses.

    So, the Turnbull Coalition Team has put its hand up to own the growing modern energy fuckup presently transforming the Australian economy. The spanky accompanying TV ad is especially designed to let everyone in voter land know exactly who to blame during the transition.

    Bill Shorten and his owners will be very, very pleased with this free kick…

  169. The Deplorable Barking Toad

    “At catholic hospital now. Just overheard two jihadi bearded lads saying that this hospital is disrespectful to muslims because they don’t have a prayer room.

    Aren’t they supposed to carry a prayer mat for emergencies? Allah’s clock chimes, drop mat, raise bum to sky, problem solved.”

    GM @12.03

    They don’t need a prayer room when then happily bare their arses to the effing sky every Friday in the street at Lakemba

  170. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Just finished watching the Burns documentaries on the Vietnam War.

    Did it focus on how cowardly the Boomers were?

  171. Muddy

    Boambee John, Zulu, Rambler et all. Quickly striding through the thread & have noticed your comments with interest, but don’t have time to respond in detail right now. If I may lob a conversational grenade & then seek cover:

    Pentropic!

  172. Boambee John

    incoherent rambler
    #2514382, posted on October 4, 2017 at 10:39 am
    Blamey might be summed up by “The AU general who has been closest to causing a large scale revolt of the troops under his command.”

    Blamey might be summed up by “The AU general who has been closest to being assaulted by the troops under his command.”

    Fixed that for you. Koitaki was not his finest hour.

  173. Snoopy

    I hope the ‘staggeringly ignorant’ (© IT) Rod Sims is never allowed near a jury trial. He is clearly prepared to condemn without a shred of evidence.

    Customers are being “gouged” when it comes to the high energy prices they are paying, according to the head of Australia’s competition watchdog.

    As for who might be responsible, it could be gas producers such as Esso and BHP, pipeline owners or energy retailers, said the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission’s (ACCC) chairman Rod Sims.

    Or it could be all three,” Mr Sims told the ABC.

    Any gas company looking out for its shareholders would sue him.

  174. The incident took place near Wimbledon station, as a passenger on a packed commuter train started reading lines from the bible.

    Mmm…. . yeah… Surprised so many Cats who otherwise are good at reading between the lines missed this. Even more puzzling was the immediate default to: “Bible reader = good. Ergo fear of bible reader = nutjob”

    The “bible reader” won’t have been anything resembling a 7th day Adventist pastor. More likely a muttering mental case who’s been sleeping on the streets.

    Scene: Crowded morning commuter train.
    Cast: Sleepy & grumpy regular commuters, stuffed in like sardines.
    Action: Some weirdo type dressed as Catweazle, with a parade ground voice starts reading some Fire & Brimstone passages from a bible, telling all present that they’re on the way to hell & stuff like that.

    Commuters on those trains see nutters all the time. This time they prised carriage doors open & bailed out onto the tracks.

    There will have been a reason for that. A most valid reason.

  175. Geriatric Mayfly

    FBI greets Aussie girlfriend
    Stephen Paddock’s girlfriend has landed in the US to face questions about the massacre, and $100k sent overseas just before it.
    The Oz

    Pic shows her being off-loaded in a wheel chair. Presume she’s on our disability pension.

  176. Tailgunner

    Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)
    #2513915, posted on October 3, 2017 at 8:02 pm
    This has been the case for a while now. What’s even worse, I think journos are plagiarising blogs. A few times I would see something discussed on a blog and then it would appear on the nightly news a few days later

    The fauxservative crew that parades itself as Australia’s media often rip stuff off from these open threads.

    Premium content indeed.
    Stimpson. J. Cat is god.
    No wonder the country’s in a mess.

  177. Tailgunner

    I’m on the scrollback as usual….

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