Wednesday Forum: October 4, 2017

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  1. Fergus

    Evolving Democrats, the party of peace

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     Analysis

    The
    remarkably fast liberalization of the Democratic Party

    By Aaron Blake October 5 at 2:45 PM  

    Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) pauses as he speaks during a “Care Not Cuts” rally in July in Covington, Ky. (John Minchillo/Associated Press)

    Donald Trump’s presidential nomination and the tea party trend of earlier this decade have led to plenty of thumb-sucking when it comes to the Republican Party’s alleged shift toward the political extreme. And there is certainly evidence for that.

    But a new Pew Research Center study shows that Democrats are also evolving quickly. And if anything, Democrats have actually shifted moreover the past two decades on many key social and philosophical issues, trending relatively quickly toward liberal positions as Republicans have changed more slightly. And the totality of it shows that Democratic voters are actually more polarized than Republicans are.

    Pew has been running this study for years, and it’s the gold standard when it comes to documenting the nation’s political polarization. This chart, in particular, demonstrates why we can’t all just get along:

    But look closely at that third graph, and you’ll notice that Democrats are actually more toward the far left than Republicans are to the far right. The median Democrat is also closer to the extreme than the median Republican.

  2. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From rickw at 6:54 am:

    “…

    I think that’s a pilot who doesn’t eat with a knife and fork. QF pilot would have kicked it straight at the last, minute without over correction, and kissed the runway without pax realising there was much of a cross wind.”

    In a lifetime flying hither and yon I have never once heard airline people refer to “pax”, especially when speaking to mere passengers – airline pilot mates (who all don’t want to talk about “that very boring subject” – “How did Richmond go on Saturday?”), hostess friends, former shooty type plane pilots, my RAAF officer brother’s pilot officer mates from Point Cook, plane delivery pilots, freelancers who took instructions from the loosely termed “Air America”, helicopter charters – them neither. It must be deep insider talk.

    I no longer have the need to get about like that much however I must try it some time when boarding, knowingly, insiderly, murmuring as one of the special few … “How many pax are you carrying today?”

    I suspect the hostie is likely, and entitled, to respond “You sound like Kevin Rudd. Are you Kevin Rudd?”

  3. srr

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 12h12 hours ago

    Why Isn’t the Senate Intel Committee looking into the Fake News Networks in OUR country to see why so much of our news is just made up-FAKE!

    Because publishing the facts would cause mass murders and suicides when people realize how many of their ‘most trusted friends‘ are actually the deepest, most influential part of The Fake News Network, making a killing being professional mind fuckers … oh, and detailed, personal data miners … they really are evil fucks.

    We really have to ease people into a truth this big and ugly. Hell, we’re having enough trouble getting people to face the undisputed fact of the double (backstabbing for profit), lives of Whisper Marketers, contracted to keep their job secret even from their closest family members … and that’s just brainwashing to sell often harmless and even good products … being brainwashed by your nearest and dearest (the modern Stasi on steroids), to betray everything, that’s just too horrific for most to cope with. Baby steps ….

  4. Nick

    I wonder what qualifications are needed to be labelled a ‘bullying expert’?

    Having red hair and freckles 🙂

  5. Steve trickler.
    #2515954, posted on October 6, 2017 at 2:21 am
    Epic moments in sport

    Thanks Steve.
    The racing was epic and the commentary intelligent.

  6. Snoopy

    If you have the space, a 20 litre drum of water kept in the freezer frozen greatly improves the performance of an unpowered freezer. The squarish chemical drums are an efficient shape.

  7. Joe

    JC:

    I wasn’t suggesting (a few days ago) the US government should bail out Puerto R. All I was saying was that motor mouth shouldn’t be talking about bond prices that specifically. He just can’t help himself.

    No, you are advocating that government officials should LIE to the public to protect the capital of main-chancers and leeches. Their behaviour in hoovering up bonds at reduced prices to expect full price redemption from the Feds is just plain theft. They deserve everything they get. I hope Trump bankrupts the, and could he take that satan Soros with them.

  8. Rossini

    Steve trickler.
    #2515954, posted on October 6, 2017 at 2:21 am
    Epic moments in sport, that are generally not known, or are long forgotten.

    Just catching up with overnight postings.
    Thanks Steve, what an exciting finish!

  9. Helen

    Captain used pax all the time. Maybe it is a commercial tourist term, like R44 left x hundred hours with two pax. Of course the pilot is one, too. Helps with S&R.

  10. I wonder what qualifications are needed to be labelled a ‘bullying expert’?

    Bully training 101

  11. OSC;
    I’ve never listened to Paul Murray, but he’s hit the nail right on.
    That would be just like her – and I bet she wants to be the First President of the Republic of Australia.
    Remember that the ego is what drives these people. Not fair play or patriotism.

  12. thefrolickingmole

    Peak, peak Gurdian achieved.

    Frozen’s Elsa in a racy dress: this is the menace of Disney

    And what on earth is Elsa doing in the Let it Go scene? She’s dancing in the snow, complaining of how hard it is to play by the rules and conceal her inner self. She climbs the mountain. She sets up the ice palace. Then she raises her tiny, heart-shaped face to the heavens and bellows out the climax of the song, a moment of self-actualisation that the animators represent by having her bust her out of her dowdy village clothes and into … an evening gown, with a slit up the side all the way to her thigh and a bridal-like train dragging behind her.

    ..
    My children are played out by the song every week at ballet.
    ….
    Singing a Disney song would probably get my kids expelled from their new music school, a sort of junior Juilliard that takes itself very seriously.

    A mother to my left started hissing, desperately: “Cooper, sit down.” A little girl called Aquarius, taking a finger-puppet from the box before she was supposed to, was dispatched back to her seat with a single look. Whereupon class began, everyone behaved impeccably. It was a total delight.

    So we have the vintage champagne socialist, inflicting the most middle class of upbringings on her kids, Ballet, private schooling, strict class discipline and friends called Aquarius and Cooper…

  13. Senile Old Guy

    Surely those who can afford to should attend to their own health needs?

    I was unaware of the need for many tests. Various tests have shown problems.

    The newer tests are immunological and are more sensitive and reliable than screening tests used previously. But they can still give false negatives.

    The FOBT used in the Program is the most accurate test available for use in population screening for bowel cancer.7

    7. HealthPACT report. July 2015. Blood and stool based biomarker testing for colorectal cancer. Queensland Department of Health. https://www.health.qld.gov.au/healthpact/docs/briefs/WP151.pdf

  14. On the use of the word bullies.

    It’s everywhere. When describing schoolyard teasing through to violent street protests.
    Better use must be made of the extensive English language than is currently happening.
    Because teasing a child with red hair and freckles is not the same as bashing a conservative media commentator.
    Violently shutting down debates and speeches are not in the same league as calling someone names.
    A crowd that swarms in and jostles a government minister is not made up of simple bullies.

    There are far more expressive terms to describe the petulant, angry, aggressive thugs who persist in using force to dominate societal debate.

  15. johanna

    Boambee John
    #2516044, posted on October 6, 2017 at 8:37 am

    OneWorldGovernment
    #2515974, posted on October 6, 2017 at 5:37 am
    What are the environmental flows from The Cotter Dam?

    The environmental hypocrites of the ACT Labor government “expanded” Cotter by building a new, higher, wider dam a couple of hundred metres downstream. It increased capacity by a factor of around 20.

    Things like water and power are always triple plated for the pollies, for “national security” reasons.

    Just like they demand to be protected by guns while denying that protection to punters.

  16. JC

    Joe, yes, not no!
    I’m advocating Trump should shut up about the value of those bonds. He doesn’t have to shoot his fat mouth off about this subject.

  17. Senile Old Guy

    This piece by an advocate of traditional marriage on her recent visit to Australia might be of interest to some: she discusses the media and politicians. Di Natalie and Vegemite both get a mention (well, she can’t be right about everything).

  18. Tom

    Thanks, Fergus. Fascinating Pew research: people on the right haven’t changed, but liberals have moved to the far left.

    That’s also exactly what has happened in Australia. And the Stupid.Fucking.Liberals, under the politically clueless Trumble, thinks its salvation is in behaving like the lunatic fringe.

  19. srr

    The Whole World and David Lonie liked
    The Bolt Report‏Verified account @theboltreport 15h15 hours ago

    BOLT: Australians think they’re voting for love but the way same sex marriage supporters are acting means we’d be voting for bullies instead

    https://twitter.com/theboltreport/status/915858821414658048
    4:55 / 7:17
    Video
    @SkyNewsAust

  20. srr

    G. K. Chesterton‏ @GKCdaily 12h12 hours ago

    It has been the great tragedy of our time that people were taught to read and not taught to reason.

  21. Bruce of Newcastle

    Peak, peak Gurdian achieved.

    Frozen’s Elsa in a racy dress: this is the menace of Disney

    I thought Elsa was supposed to be gay now? De nada. We have a new Hollywood treat for the LGBTQ people to gush over:

    Star Wars GAY couple officially CONFIRMED: Is it Finn and Poe? (Daily Express today)

    I wonder if the first explicit Star Wars scene will involve wookies?

  22. Nick

    Bruce, as if C3PO wasn’t gay enough….

  23. C.L.

    Pell didn’t have to appear today at the procedural magistrate’s court hearing re the false allegations ginned up by corrupt Victoria Police officers (led by Graham Ashton).

    But he did anyway. The media were there to assault him. Just look at the turds.

  24. JC

    And Joe, stop trying to second guess why thousands and thousands of investors purchased the distressed bonds. Large numbers of them had no thoughts of buying them on the expectation of a bailout. They could very well have thought about conducting lawfare against those fuckers who borrow money and then don’t want to pay it back. PR is a failed state who do what all the other Sth Ams do, which is to borrow money with no intention of paying it back.

  25. srr

    🅾️ 🇭 🇴 🇺 🇷 ❗‏ @__0HOUR1_ 4m4 minutes ago

    Anyone wondering why they didn’t leak any photos of room number 2

    Something was in there they did not want the public to consume
    https://twitter.com/__0HOUR1_/status/916085726298722305
    [image of floor plan with location of Paddock’s body – a whole separate other room away from the other broken window]

  26. Joe

    PR is a failed state who do what all the other Sth Ams do, which is to borrow money with no intention of paying it back.

    LENDER beware. If you know that, why lend the money?

  27. johanna

    Infidel Tiger
    #2515793, posted on October 5, 2017 at 8:03 pm

    Have you noticed how pro- Catalonian the western media are?

    Alarm bells should be deafening everyone.

    Yup. As I said in my post about separatist movements, they are by and large dodgy and to be avoided.

    In the ideal world of a separatist, we would all be living in a world of economically unviable micro-states hanging out for whether the turnip or taro crop was going to be good enought to keep us all alive for the next 12 months.

  28. C.L.

    Anyone wondering why they didn’t leak any photos of room number 2

    No.

  29. srr

    🅾️ 🇭 🇴 🇺 🇷 ❗‏ @__0HOUR1_ 50m50 minutes ago

    Now all the media is saying Who was helping him…

    I have your answer media

    https://twitter.com/__0HOUR1_/status/916076168297795585

  30. JC

    we would all be living in a world of economically unviable micro-states hanging out for whether the turnip or taro crop was going to be good enought to keep us all alive for the next 12 months.

    Yep, we need big governments to help raise turnips. Canberra is vital for the turnip trade.

    I suppose Johanna think the Netherlands should be annexed to Germany as blockheads should be together under one roof.

  31. Nick

    The court heard about 50 witnesses will give evidence at Cardinal Pell’s committal hearing, which will determine whether there is enough evidence to commit him to stand trial.

    Sneaky. Notice how it implies the 50 witnesses may be for the prosecution, when it would also include those for the defence.

  32. C.L.

    Pell’s lawyer says he fully intends to destroy phony ‘witnesses’ and ‘victims’:

    SOME of the allegations made against Cardinal George Pell could simply never have happened, his legal team says.

    Robert Richter, QC, told the Melbourne Magistrates Court today it was “impossible” allegations of historical sexual offending at St Patrick’s Cathedral could have occurred…

    Dozens of witnesses will be called by the Cardinal’s lawyers as he vehemently fights the historical sexual assault offence charges.

    The witnesses will include former choirboys.

    Cardinal Pell appeared at court for a committal mention hearing where discussions centred around who would be cross examined at the upcoming committal.

    Mr Richter said for the bulk of the witnesses the cross examination would be “short and sharp”.

    He said it was vital to cross examine so many witnesses in order to properly prepare for trial…

    Ashton lied – as usual:

    Police helped Pell through a 100-strong crush of national and international media as he walked the 100 metres between his barrister’s office and the court’s main entrance for the brief filing hearing.

    Victoria Police Chief Commissioner Graham Ashton in July said police would consider taking Pell through an underground door to the court complex next time.

  33. JC

    I groped wifey on the plane. Now she’s pretending she won’t talk to me. Sad…

  34. Here’s a hydrological question that’s been floating around inside my head forever:
    Dams silt up after about a hundred years, correct?
    Many of our dams are just water filled valleys – it would be cheaper to clear out the hills before letting the dam fill – depends. The cost of machinery and fuel would be uneconomic.
    You can’t get rid of the hills after the dam has filled.
    Or can you?
    How about a two meter pipe sitting on the reservoir bed about a kilometer up stream with an outlet below the dam. When the dam is full and some water needs to go over the spillway, open the pipe instead – an awfully large amount of silt will go with that water, and if placed correctly would undermine the hills, sending them downstream as more silt. The fact the dam is full would carry this silt naturally out to sea – as would have happened if the dam weren’t there.
    Relatively cheap and maintenance free.
    Suggestions?

  35. Eyrie

    Passengers are known as self loading cargo, Mick.

  36. Top Ender

    New ISIS Infographic on Vegas Shooting Claims Paddock Converted Six Months Ago

    The Islamic State continued insisting that they have a connection to Sunday night’s massacre in Las Vegas with the publication of an infographic about the crime filling the second page of their 16-page weekly newsletter.

  37. Eyrie

    Regarding the PR bonds – anyone lending money to a government of any stripe deserves to lose it all. The riskiest investment of the lot and immoral. Redemption depends on the government threatening people with violence.

  38. Mother Lode

    And if anything, Democrats have actually shifted moreover the past two decades on many key social and philosophical issues, trending relatively quickly toward liberal positions as Republicans have changed more slightly.

    Well of course.

    The republicans are moving back to their traditional positions. The MSM, Hollywood, and various other organs infected by the left, by sheer weight, and with the willing complicity of the GOP establishment, began hauling them to the left. When they went a step too far the voters started pulling in the other direction. This was the genesis of the Tea Party, and the opportunity seized by Trump.

  39. Tom

    Paywallian:

    Crossbench senator Nick Xenophon has announced that he is resigning from the federal Senate to run in the South Australian seat of Hartley in the 2018 state election.

    Senator Xenophon said he had been planning the move for some time, denying that it was related to the High Court citizenship case.

    He says he expects to be replaced by a Nick Xenophon Team candidate, regardless of next week’s High Court verdict.

    Senator Xenophon says his party “only need to come second” to become the opposition in South Australia.

    He says they plan to run in “at least a dozen seats”, maybe more.

    Senator Xenophon said his party would represent political centre, “not a choice from the extreme Left or the extreme Right”.

    Hartley is a marginal seat held by the Liberal Party’s Vincent Tarzia. He won the seat from Labor at the 2014 election with a swing of 2.6 per cent.

    Senator Xenophon said his decision had been driven by the fact that both major parties “disappoint me to the brink of despair”.

    “We have a Government that deserves to lose, and an Opposition that does not deserve to win,” he said.

    “When the votes are counted on Saturday night, March 17 next year, the worst result would be politics as usual, more of the same – or as The Who once put it, ‘meet the new boss, same as the old boss’.”

    Senator Xenophon said that he had made the decision in October 2007, after a decade in state parliament, that he could do more for SA as an independent in Canberra.

    “But since the massive power blackout last year and our record power prices, I have concluded they are symptoms of a much bigger and deeper problem,” he said.

    “I’ve decided that you can’t fix South Australia’s problems in Canberra without first fixing our broken political system back home.”

    Senator Xenophon registered the name SA-BEST for his state party earlier this year.

    He said South Australian politics needed to change.

    “I intend to be part of that change, with SA-BEST strongly contesting seats in both houses of State Parliament – especially in the lower house where Governments are formed.

    “SA-BEST will go all out to at least win the balance of power in the State Parliament, so we can hold, with a proverbial blow torch, whoever does form government to the highest standards of accountability, decency, honesty and good governance,” he said.

    “Just as NXT has unashamedly used its position in the Senate to advance better outcomes for South Australians, SA-BEST will relentlessly use a position of influence in the state parliament to secure reforms that will lead to better government, to the more reliable and affordable services South Australians deserve.

    “So, as the saying goes, I am going to put my money where my mouth is.”

    Senator Xenophon said he would be standing for Hartley, in Adelaide’s east, as a “true local” who had lived there for decades.

    “I will remain in the Senate fighting for the state, until the High Court determines the outcome of the so-called citizenship case affecting me and six others, to be heard next week,” he said.

    “While my lawyers are confident I will succeed, whatever the outcome, once that decision is handed down I will be in a position to leave the Senate.”

    “I will not, as some have speculated, seek my reappointment to the Senate as I could if I wanted to.”

    Senator Xenophon said he would still have an “active and direct role” in decisions made at a federal level with NXT.

    “Running for the seat of Hartley will be a big gamble for me, even though, as you know, I’m not a gambler,” he said.

    “I’m sure that both Labor and the Liberals will pull out all the stops to try to prevent me and my team from breaking through into state parliament.

    “They don’t want their cosy little duopoly broken up. I’m sure they will throw everything at us. So, I expect plenty of dirty tricks. Plenty of mud will be thrown, probably the kitchen sink as well.

    “For my part, it will be a do or die effort.”

    Link.

  40. srr

    ISLAMIC STATE NEWSLETTER CLAIMS
    VEGAS SHOOTER WAS ‘SOLIDER OF THE CALIPHATE’

    http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/10/05/islamic-state-claims-vegas-shooter-solider-caliphate/

    PHILIPPINES’ DUTERTE STRUGGLES TO SUBDUE
    MONTHS-OLD ISLAMIC STATE INSURGENCY

    http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2017/10/05/duterte-struggles-subdue-months-old-islamic-state-insurgency-christian-philippines/

    You’d think that with the Philippines being so close to us, and so many of of Paddock’s girlfriends family and friends living and having connections here, and all the Pro-Islam propaganda from our political and business classes, and a whole bunch of other stuff, that more people would be a little more suspect of those so desperate to CONvince everyone – “Nothing to see here, so close your eyes, cover your ears, sing, ‘Lah-Lah-Lah-Lah’, and attack, Attack, ATTACK those who don’t STFU about it!

  41. Snoopy

    Crow eaters owe Xenophon a living. Don’t disappoint him.

  42. johanna

    I think I know who is “dumb as box of rocks” on this issue and it isn’t Lizzie. Note that the investigation found polyps, a potential precursor to cancer. Also, this was probably done under private health care (which would not cover all the costs). Someone investing in their own health care has a test done which has found a potential precursor to cancer, which can be removed and monitored. Remember also, if the person died prematurely, all their future contributions to their family and society go with them.

    Blockquote fail, below are mine.

    Sounds like it was written by any leftist. Again, any life saved, no mention of the cost. How do you know who paid for what? You don’t, you just made that up.

    I wasn’t talking about people “investing in their own health care,” I was talking about the government asking for poo samples to be sent through the mail at taxpayers’ expense.

    Get a grip.

  43. Dr Faustus

    Senator Xenophon said he had been planning the move for some time, denying that it was related to the High Court citizenship case.

    Q: How can you tell when a politician is lying?
    A: His lips are moving.
    [Boom-tish]

  44. Infidel Tiger

    ABC News @abcnews
    How teaching cello in war-torn Kabul led Eddie Ayres to finally accept he was transgender.

    Fuck me. That’s not a parody.

  45. But, in the end, I don’t care. I am not sending poo samples to the government.

    The Bottom Inspectors, coming to a reality near you soon.

    Someone once said parody was a form of prediction.

  46. Stimpson J. Cat

    “Cooper, sit down.” A little girl called Aquarius,

    Just look at these [email protected] names.
    It’s enough to make me vomit.
    Goddamn Commie Hippies.

  47. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I think I know who is “dumb as box of rocks” on this issue and it isn’t Lizzie. Note that the investigation found polyps, a potential precursor to cancer. Also, this was probably done under private health care (which would not cover all the costs). Someone investing in their own health care has a test done which has found a potential precursor to cancer, which can be removed and monitored. Remember also, if the person died prematurely, all their future contributions to their family and society go with them.

    Yes. All done under private health insurance at a cost. A decision to have his colonoscopy was due to my situation as well as his own previous cancer (another sort, seems well in remission now, like his DVT tendency which his blood specialist says is intriguingly often associated with other cancers). Hairy gets a repeat colonoscopy in five years, unless those polyps look problematic under pathology results. My case was more worrying; a major cancer-precursor embedded polyp of nasty sort, plus others. I get more regular colonoscopies, and check of site of removal of 7cm lesion. Previously both of us have returned fecal samples with no problems shown just a few months beforehand. Hairy’s doc says these tend to pick up later cancers that are already bleeding, as I know also from my epidemiological training. Still treatable, but colonoscopy is the gold standard for checking. If you can afford gold, go for it I say.

    Jo, where have I ever been a ‘self-proclaimed intellectual’ on this site (or anywhere else)? I’ve worked as an academic, big deal, and published in Quadrant once recently, bit of a fluke, but I haven’t made a point of these things I hope, as they are pretty unexceptional around here. Hardly ‘self-proclaiming’ as anything, I would have thought. I come here to contribute when I can and I especially enjoy the craic.

    Oh, and I don’t think Grigs is Candy. Candy is Candy, and I don’t know Candy in person so I can’t say more. Same as I am me, in spite of Giffy long ago saying I was a man, and Grigs saying I was a fantasist. I am no imposter and my life experiences recorded here are all genuine and my own. While some of my friends say they are unusual when you take into account a few things I haven’t mentioned here, there’s nothing unique about them.

  48. Snoopy

    This must be Monday’s Australian Story.

    A childhood in regional England. A move to Hong Kong. Then Australia. Then to Afghanistan to teach music to orphans. And, finally, transitioning from a woman to a man.

    Next, the Film Australia funded international blockbuster.

  49. Peter Castieau

    regarding Xenephon, its incredible isn’t it that he thinks he can restore reliable and cheap power to his home state when in fact he was one of the idiots who started the problem in the first place with support for the carbon tax and ongoing support for the RET.
    If Tassie was stupid enough to re-elect Jackie Jackie Lambie then SA is definately stupid enough to elect several NXT idiots too!
    It could cruel any chance Aus Cons had of gaining serious representaion in SA.

  50. Senile Old Guy

    Sounds like it was written by any leftist. Again, any life saved, no mention of the cost. How do you know who paid for what? You don’t, you just made that up.

    What a maroon! I linked to a 40 page report by Deloitte (that would be this report at the link) who examined the economics and the former paper-pusher says I “just made that up”.

    And no mention of personal accounts here of people whose lives have very probably been saved by the testing. Or of the fact that many pay for it themselves (though it is doubtless subsidised).

    It’s an immunological test, and having been involved in work using procedures like that, they are not cheap but they are not hideously expensive (developing them in the first place, and testing them, will be expensive).

    I take it back! I might get more sense out of a box of rocks.

  51. Tintarella di Luna

    The latest effort from Dr Tim Southpossumass.</blockquote

    As one of the three students at QUT said: Combating racism with racism – the official position portrays white people are racist and ONLY white people

  52. Stimpson J. Cat

    stop trying to second guess why thousands and thousands of investors purchased the distressed bonds.

    They did it to make money off the poor ethnics.
    Nothing wrong with that, but they can’t whine like little bitches when the God Emperor majestically rambles about whatever the f$ck he wants.
    They knew exactly what they were doing, and if they didn’t, they shouldn’t have been doing it in the first place.

  53. calli

    I wasn’t talking about people “investing in their own health care,” I was talking about the government asking for poo samples to be sent through the mail at taxpayers’ expense.

    I’m quite happy to send poo samples to the government. As a taxpayer, it seems a reasonable response.

  54. Nick

    Lol Snoopy, that ticks plenty of boxes

  55. Tintarella di Luna

    I’m quite happy to send poo samples to the government. As a taxpayer, it seems a reasonable response.

    If I thought it would help I would go beyond samples and send them real deal but they are already so full of beyond samples I save myself the bother.

  56. Stimpson J. Cat

    I wasn’t talking about people “investing in their own health care,” I was talking about the government asking for poo samples to be sent through the mail at taxpayers’ expense.

    Sh$tting into a Postpak is not that easy.
    For a start you need a ladder.

  57. Nick

    There was nearly a racist snout punch from me. The Asian guy sitting in the seat in front of me just coughed everywhere and then picked out the contents of his ear, flicking it backwards !

  58. srr

    “Who’s going to look after us?!”, they cried.

    Well, certainly not Dot & Co. who slaved to sell us out to their Qatari crew, and certainly not those madly trying to blow a cover of bulldust for ISIS in Aus & our neighbouring islands.

    President Trump Remarks Before Senior Military Briefing…
    Posted on October 5, 2017 by sundance

    President Trump participates in a briefing session with military leadership prior to a White House dinner with the leadership and their spouses:

    Cabinet Room – 6:04 P.M. EDT – THE PRESIDENT: Thank you very much. And thank you all for being here tonight. And welcome back to the White House. In particular, I want to thank Secretary Mattis and General Dunford for their incredible leadership and service. I also want to thank General Kelly and General McMaster for joining us this evening, and for their dedication to this administration. They have been really spectacular and done a great job.

    It’s wonderful to be with all of you again. As I said during our last meeting, my number-one priority as Commander-in-Chief is to keep our people safe and to empower you, our senior military leaders, to do what you do best. Nobody does it better than the people in this room, believe me.

    Continue reading →
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/10/05/president-trump-remarks-before-senior-military-briefing/

    President Trump Participates in a Briefing with Senior Military Leaders
    The White House

  59. Mother Lode

    Xylophone is a Typhoid Μαρία.

    He wanders through parliaments leaving pestilence and ruin in his wake.

    But perhaps he has also been playing a longer game – pokies won’t work in blackouts.

  60. Tintarella di Luna

    Gee in their new ads Racism-it stops with me – the Australian Human Rights Commission is now combating racism with racism — portraying ONLY Australian white men as racist while our legislation, public service and government policies are out and out racist, racially targetting Australian white men, statues of English white/bronzed men, and providing extra special racist sugar on a racial basis.

  61. Stimpson J. Cat

    There was nearly a racist snout punch from me. The Asian guy sitting in the seat in front of me just coughed everywhere and then picked out the contents of his ear, flicking it backwards !

    Earpicking Waxflicking Ratf$ckers.
    They are everywhere.

  62. Article in Oz today mentions Tony Jones stepped aside from Lateline this year so that he could write a book.

    Jones has often been mentioned as highest paid ABC on air staff. I guess we can be pretty sure his salary remained the same whilst his on air time was reduced by well over half. After all it is only Government money.

    Meanwhile his wife does the intro to Four Corners. Many of the shows are not even ABC productions. Would like to know how much she gets for the intro work.

  63. Fergus

    The good Doctor has to find racists otherwise he no longer has his extremely well paid taxpayer funded job. This isn’t about righteousness(it’s about keeping the bed feathered.)
    Look at how badly Australia has treated him!/sarc

  64. Nick

    I wonder how many Victorians tutting about the waste of money spent on the plebiscite, say nothing about Dan spending ten times as much not to build a road.

  65. Farmer Gez

    I’ve noticed that at toll booths on Indian highways there are trans prostitutes looking for work from the truck drivers.
    My teenage daughter took a look and declared “that’s not a woman” in a nice loud voice.

  66. Joe

    DOH! notafan – made me look!

  67. Fergus

    Antifa changed colour and costumes?

  68. the government asking for poo samples to be sent through the mail

    A healthy serve of peanut butter (with a vegemite streak) pressed into the container.
    And a fart in the governments general direction …

  69. He also made a chilling prediction, which I’ve also long maintained – regarding electrickery becoming ever more expensive and unreliable, things are going to have to get a lot worse before there is any chance of them getting any better.

    Plimer was saying people are going to die for things to change. It will be too late by then, you can’t just conjure a power station out of thin air, particularly in this red-green tape country infested with loony left parasites. People have probably already died as a result of power prices but what Plimer was talking about were deaths directly attributable to a blackout.

    So here’s a plan; lets announce that for every person who dies where the cause can be directly tied to failed Government policy we arrest and imprison one politician. We start with The Greens (current and former – that Brown turd can be first), they get 10 years each for their 100% support of fraud energy. Labor pollies (starting with Gillard) get 5 years and Libs get 2.5 years behind bars. Once we’ve run out of current and former pollies to lock up we move on to the likes of Flannery, CSIRO, BoM and the ABC.

  70. jupes

    regarding Xenephon, its incredible isn’t it that he thinks he can restore reliable and cheap power to his home state when in fact he was one of the idiots who started the problem in the first place with support for the carbon tax and ongoing support for the RET.

    Indeed. His position on global warming and energy is probably more muddled than Turnbull’s. Yet the narcissistic clown will run on a platform of restoring cheap power to SA! Imagine what a decent press could do with this delusional idiot.

    If Tassie was stupid enough to re-elect Jackie Jackie Lambie then SA is definately stupid enough to elect several NXT idiots too!

    True. And they will deserve everything they have coming to them.

    It could cruel any chance Aus Cons had of gaining serious representaion in SA.

    See my last comment.

  71. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I looked too, Joe, and I must say I think that there is something in it. The Sheriff said there had to be others involved, and lookee, here they are. 😀

  72. …If Tassie was stupid enough to re-elect Jackie Jackie Lambie then …

    Be careful there. Our Jacq at least has sane policies on Muslim immigration/integration, and ain’t backward about arguing for those policies.
    Other stuff, not so much.

  73. srr

    Hollywood Executive Harvey Weinstein Exposed For Decades of Sexual Harassment…
    Posted on October 5, 2017 by sundance

    This is an odd story because the New York Times wouldn’t be publishing a career ending report against one of their own, especially a power-player, if Mr. Weinstein didn’t end up on the wrong side of the ever-virtue-signaling cocktail party circuit for some reason.

    Nice production company you’ve got here Mr. Weinstein; it’d be a shame if something happened to it….

    A cursory motive for the far-left to punch one of their own would be if the target refused to participate in a larger agenda.

    Perhaps refusing to fund a Madison Avenue agenda item; or if the target distanced themselves from the mission objective; or if the virtue resistance needed to send a message to other reluctant donors by tearing down one of the apex predator insiders.

    Any combination therein is entirely possible.

    Hillary’s current position
    https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/weinstein-2.jpg
    within the late-night circuit of facilitating moral creeps would lend credence to the probability the loons need capital and “resistance” branding support; and Weinstein’s public embarrassment is merely a warning of required participation toward others. Harvey Weinstein’s response further validates that probability.

    LOS ANGELES (AP) — Harvey Weinstein, the larger-than-life Hollywood executive and Oscar-winner, is taking a leave of absence from his own company after an explosive expose revealing decades of sexual harassment against women, from employees to actress Ashley Judd, was published in The New York Times Thursday.

    The article includes first person accounts of Weinstein’s alleged conduct, including from Judd, who recounts an incident from two decades ago in which she said she was asked to meet Weinstein in his hotel room. Weinstein greeted her wearing a bathrobe and asked her if she would give him a massage or watch him shower, the paper reported.

    Continue reading →
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/10/05/hollywood-executive-harvey-weinstein-exposed-for-decades-of-sexual-harassment/#more-139507

  74. Bruce of Newcastle

    His position on global warming and energy is probably more muddled than Turnbull’s. Yet the narcissistic clown will run on a platform of restoring cheap power to SA!

    Xenophon’s policy is 50% renewbulls by 2030.
    In other words he’s indistinguishable from the ALP.
    I wouldn’t want to be a seagull in South Australia.
    Or a pensioner needing A/C in summer.

  75. Roger

    I was unaware of the need for many tests. Various tests have shown problems.

    stacks, your doctor should be on top of the need for tests according to your symptoms or other indicators such as age.

    If he isn’t, switch to one who is.

  76. Stimpson J. Cat

    How teaching cello in war-torn Kabul led Eddie Ayres to finally accept he was transgender.

    Let’s be honest.
    Who the f$ck in Kabul either wants to learn cello or knows what a cello is?
    This sounds more like a Bacha Bazi expedition.

  77. bear Necessities

    Good stuff Nota.
    I loved the “land of the lost” tv series.

  78. Snoopy

    Xenophon is planning on a coalition with the ALP where he’ll be Deputy Premier. I suspect he’s cunning enough not to want the energy portfolio.

  79. srr

    🙄
    Self aggrandizing idiots.

    The only people who don’t recognise the nervous laughter of the guilty as sin, busted cold, are not the sort of people they have to try to convince they aren’t busted cold, guilty as sin.

  80. Bruce of Newcastle

    Oops it looks like he’s changed it. It certainly used to be 50% by 2030. Now it is to meet the Paris target of 26-28% CO2 reduction below 2005 levels by 2030 without an explicit target for renewbulls.
    My apology to Mr Xenophon.

  81. srr

    Skip the first 2:30 of silence –

    YourVoice™ America (10/5) “Trump Approval Hits 45%!”
    Bill Mitchell

  82. Snoopy

    My apology to Mr Xenophon.

    Don’t apolgise. He’s lying.

  83. IT will laugh when he hears this: Bret Stephens, former WSJ ‘conservative’ now at the NYT’ wants to abolish the Second Amendment.

  84. Roger

    I wasn’t talking about people “investing in their own health care,” I was talking about the government asking for poo samples to be sent through the mail at taxpayers’ expense.

    Why on earth should grown adults perfectly competent in most areas of life need mummy government to tell them if they’re over a certain age they should get checked for early indicators of bowel cancer and then provide the test such a wasteful manner (I’d wager the cost of the mail out and tests is more than the plebsicite!)? If they don’t know about the need for this testing their doctor should be advising them about it. Or are doctors so constrained by Medicare appointment billing structures that they not taking the time to do so? (How many doctors don’t even check your blood pressure at a routine appointment, listen to your heart an dlungs?)If so this process is tantamount to an admission that socialised medicine is not meeting our most basic of health care needs.

  85. notafan

    Oh dear, someone doesn’t like little jokes.

    Just wait until conspiracy #666 goes stale, and conspiracy #667 becomes topic de jour.

  86. Stimpson J. Cat

    Has anyone met Xylophone Xenophon in real life?
    I don’t want to be racist but he just looks so greasy.
    Like he exudes grease and oil from every one of his ridiculous rancid reeking pores.
    Anyone ever shook his hand?
    Was it slippery like an eel?
    Did you have to grab it with both hands to stop the pallid wriggling fleshy slick sausage fingers from slipping out of your grasp?

  87. srr

    TheLastRefuge Retweeted
    unsavoryagents‏ @unsavoryagents 49m49 minutes ago

    USING ART AND SATIRE, I SUCCESSFULLY DENIED JIMMY KIMMEL THE USE OF HIS ALLIGATOR TEARS TO HELP PUSH DEMOCRAT POLICIES ON LATE NIGHT TV.

    https://twitter.com/unsavoryagents/status/916100795908550656

    … tee hee …. prepare for the army of WOEmen to take great offence, gallop in and make it all about them, again.

  88. Tom

    It’s hilarious, Dover. Because he was imported from WSJ, Bret Stephens is being used by the NY Times as its resident fake conservative. Hi Alan on steroids. Just like John Hewson and fat Mandy are the go-to fake conservatives for the leftist gutter press and the Big Government Communist Media Industrial Complex in this Venezualan backwater.

  89. Zatara

    LENDER beware. If you know that, why lend the money?

    They inaccurately assessed that the ‘Too Big To Fail’ doctrine would apply to a US territory which has been bleeding the taxpayers dry for generations. That the feds couldn’t afford not to make good on PR’s debt. A really poor bet.

    While this article was written back in 2006 it very accurately sets the stage for what has happened:

    Trouble on Welfare Island

  90. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    IT will laugh when he hears this: Bret Stephens, former WSJ ‘conservative’ now at the NYT’ wants to abolish the Second Amendment.

    Go for it Bret. You’ll have more chance repealing gravity, but I wish you well in this political endeavour.

  91. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    CNN displayed this image to show what a bump stock rifle looks like.

    The rifle features a suppressor, grenade launcher and no bump stock.

    https://twitter.com/dhookstead/status/916052454235672578

  92. Australia is in for a big shock. Welcome to the Balkans. I also recall him saying that they would not give good jobs to any foreigners in Pakistan but that is no excuse in Australia.

    I still remember a conversation years ago with an orthodox Christian from Armenia who claimed the same. Yes, someone from a persecuted background complaining about the sanctuary that took them in.

    They really don’t want to be on their own against the Muslim hordes, but there’s no limit to stupidity.

  93. Geriatric Mayfly

    A snapshot of the appalling situation in Venezuela, not safe for work

    That cartoon of Tom’s, yesterday, showing Pope Frank seeking the blessing of Karl Marx says more than enough about the current Pontiff. His silence on Venezuela, is also telling. On some issues he will not shut up. A largely Catholic country in dire straits escapes his notice.

  94. Seriously, how bloody useless are these broadsheet conservatives!

  95. It’s hilarious, Dover. Because he was imported from WSJ, Bret Stephens is being used by the NY Times as its resident fake conservative. Hi Alan on steroids. Just like John Hewson and fat Mandy are the go-to fake conservatives for the leftist gutter press and the Big Government Communist Media Industrial Complex in this Venezualan backwater.

    Remember, Tom, there are no principles in politics, only political vehicles. Politicians can never be trusted.

  96. Baldrick

    Senator Xenophon said his party would represent political centre, “not a choice from the extreme Left or the extreme Right”.

    Bwhahahaha, the political centre, Bwhahahaha.

  97. Hydra

    Senator Xenophon said his party would represent political centre, “not a choice from the extreme Left or the extreme Right”.

    Bwhahahaha, the political centre, Bwhahahaha.

    He is further left than the Greens.

  98. Hydra

    Has anyone met Xylophone Xenophon in real life?
    I don’t want to be racist but he just looks so greasy.

    You Xenophobe.

  99. Snoopy

    Sky News newsreader reporting on something happening on the Thaimes River in London.

  100. Baldrick

    ABC News @abcnews
    How teaching cello in war-torn Kabul led Eddie Ayres to finally accept he was transgender.

    The ABC do like to keep it in the family:
    Emma Ayres: ABC Classic FM radio breakfast program
    Her partner is Jane Allen, a writer and producer of the ABC drama series Janet King.

  101. Geriatric Mayfly

    Mercedes has made a ute, and it’s awesome The Oz

    Wonder how many young bush squires will tart these up, with low clearance, aerials, fenders, a row of lights across the roof and Conargo Pub/ R.M. Williams stickers on the back window?

  102. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Xenophon’s centre is somewhere between Communism and Stalinsism.

  103. Senile Old Guy

    Why on earth should grown adults perfectly competent in most areas of life need mummy government to tell them if they’re over a certain age they should get checked for early indicators of bowel cancer and then provide the test such a wasteful manner.

    Something like vaccination: the cost of not doing it is greater. I’ve posted a link to the Deloitte review twice; that’s enough. If you want to know why it should be done, look it up.

    (I’d wager the cost of the mail out and tests is more than the plebsicite!)?

    But the plebiscite is all cost, no economic return.

    If they don’t know about the need for this testing their doctor should be advising them about it. Or are doctors so constrained by Medicare appointment billing structures that they not taking the time to do so?

    Doctors probably do, if the risk factors are there. It has certainly been raised by my usual GP. But what about people who do not regularly see a GP; or who go to a different clinic; or just see whoever is rostered on?

    (How many doctors don’t even check your blood pressure at a routine appointment, listen to your heart and lungs?)

    Most doctors would do BP. But heart and lungs if there is no indication of a problem? Why?

    If so this process is tantamount to an admission that socialised medicine is not meeting our most basic of health care needs.

    You thought it would?

  104. Stimpson J. Cat

    Mercedes has made a ute, and it’s awesome

    This intrigues me on many levels.
    Please post photos of the Nazi Kangaroo Death Machines please.

  105. Baldrick

    Crossbench senator Nick Xenophon has announced that he is resigning from the federal Senate to run in the South Australian seat of Hartley in the 2018 state election.

    … when one defined benefit superannuation pension for life, is never enough.

  106. calli

    when one defined benefit superannuation pension for life, is never enough.

    Bingo!

  107. Boambee John

    Stimpson at 1233

    Like he exudes grease and oil from every one of his ridiculous rancid reeking pores.

    “Oozing charm from every pore he oiled his way around the floor.” From My Fair Lady.

  108. Snoopy

    Mercedes has made a ute, and it’s awesome

    More accurately described as a Nisscedes.

  109. srr

    TheLastRefuge Retweeted
    Adam Herbets‏Verified account @AdamHerbets Oct 4

    FBI: We have multiple leads all around the world involving the travel patterns of MULTIPLE people involved in this investigation.

  110. Fergus

    So Xeno must be a dual citizen, then? Getting out before he is kicked out?

  111. C.L.

    I’ve been pointing out for two years that the homosexual “marriage” movement is utterly white and breathtakingly racist. Too late now but that fact is now being noticed in the press. So yeah. Yay.

  112. Stimpson J. Cat

    “Oozing charm from every pore he oiled his way around the floor.” From My Fair Lady.

    He doesn’t have charm though.
    It’s more a slimy sense of ethnic privilege.
    He just seems off.
    I wouldn’t buy a second hand car or a bag of concrete mix off him.
    If I was stuck in an elevator or an alley with him I wouldn’t turn my back.
    In fact I’m prepared to bet good money that he carries a small pair of pliers in his back pocket on the off chance that if someone nearby with gold fillings dies he can take care of business.

  113. Snoopy

    A Mervarra? 🙂

    That’ll do.

  114. Arky

    You can also change your dong at the airport.

    ..
    I’m happy with my dong just as it is, ta very much.

  115. calli

    Not a real ute. Give me a Rodeo with an alloy tray any day. At least it can be hosed down.

  116. Top Ender

    So here’s a plan; lets announce that for every person who dies where the cause can be directly tied to failed Government policy we arrest and imprison one politician. We start with The Greens (current and former – that Brown turd can be first), they get 10 years each for their 100% support of fraud energy. Labor pollies (starting with Gillard) get 5 years and Libs get 2.5 years behind bars. Once we’ve run out of current and former pollies to lock up we move on to the likes of Flannery, CSIRO, BoM and the ABC.

    This is an appalling, divisive and flawed idea.

    Why can’t Flannery be first?

  117. Stimpson J. Cat

    More accurately described as a Nisscedes.

    It looks a bit girly.
    If I was a Nazi farmer or tradie I wouldn’t buy it, that’s for sure.
    Maybe it looks better and goes faster if you drive it wearing Hi-Vis.

  118. Arky

    Why on earth should grown adults perfectly competent in most areas of life need mummy government to tell them if they’re over a certain age they should get checked for early indicators of bowel cancer

    ..
    I was thinking of letting the government check my arse for signs of cancer, but down here in Victoria they just outlawed browneyes.

  119. calli

    The Beloved is out on his Dong exchange as I type. We apparently need USD on entry into Cambodia for visas.

    Just a couple of General Grants will do.

  120. I was thinking of letting the government check my arse for signs of cancer, but down here in Victoria they just outlawed browneyes.

    Which is why we need an Automated Arsehole Recognition System (AARS), now!

  121. Rabz

    Sky News newsreader reporting on something happening on the Thames River in London.

    Here’s hoping it’s just the Sex Pistols playing an impromptu gig.

  122. Better still we register / license arseholes (annual fee required).
    Think of it as a deficit buster.

  123. calli

    Which is why we need an Automated Arsehole Recognition System (AARS), now!

    After years of dealing with the General Public, I have it built in.

    I sense a business opportunity – supply under license, with the Bullsh*tometer thrown in for an extra 15%.

  124. Chris

    Funny that there are people who never met a conspiracy theory they didn’t like and are happy to make up a few of their own.

    Notafan, SHHH! If we keep really quiet they wont realise we are wearing hair shirts filled with blood and fingernail scrapings under our robes.

  125. Rabz

    The Bottom Inspectors

    LOL. I’d never heard of them before – thanks Rusty.

  126. Roger

    But heart and lungs if there is no indication of a problem? Why?

    Friend of mine had a heart murmur picked up in a general examination after 55 years and subsequent surgery to repair a serious hitherto overlooked problem. She – the doctor – took the time to do it and knew what to listen for. Not the first she’s picked up, either.

    There is a compelling public health case for a publicly funded vaccination program, but I can’t see it for bowel cancer screening – nanny state over reach. One visit a year to a GP should cover investigations for a lot of age related or family history related conditions.

  127. Senile Old Guy

    Their ABC:

    Every major nation can benefit from a swift switch to electric vehicles, but Australia’s very existence may rely on it. If that sounds dramatic, consider the facts. Australia is now heading towards 100 per cent import dependency on fuel, primarily from the Middle East and through Asia.

    And how do you charge the things in the middle of the Simpson Desert? Or on the run from Darwin to Alice Spring? Or, in fact, anywhere outside the major cities?

  128. Arky

    Which is why we need an Automated Arsehole Recognition System

    ..
    Would that be based around vision or smell?

  129. Roger

    And how do you charge the things in the middle of the Simpson Desert? Or on the run from Darwin to Alice Spring? Or, in fact, anywhere outside the major cities?

    Private electric vehicles will only be for the urban elite.

  130. a lot of age related or family history related conditions

    In my family history, death seems to be something that passed down across the generations.

    Those who never visited a doctor/hospital hold the family longevity records.

  131. Mother Lode

    As Southpossumarse has not doubt observed, “If there were no plague of racist white Australians it would be necessary to invent one. And so we do.”

  132. Roger

    You can be sure Chavez’s daughter Maria, who has reportedly stolen US$4.2bn from the country and stashed it in US and Andorran banks, will never be giving birth on a wire mesh seat in a hospital emergency room.

    How many times does Socialism need to be experimented with before it is finally declared a failure both economically and morally?

  133. Would that be based around vision or smell?

    Good question.
    With people like Bramdis, for example, the current software can mistake the face for an arsehole.

  134. I’ve been pointing out for two years that the homosexual “marriage” movement is utterly white and breathtakingly racist. Too late now but that fact is now being noticed in the press. So yeah. Yay.

    Indeed, you have. And about time they noticed.

  135. Rabz

    the homosexual “marriage” movement is utterly white and breathtakingly racist

    Just like the greenfilth. Oh wait, they’re interchangeable.

  136. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    How many times does Socialism need to be experimented with before it is finally declared a failure both economically and morally?

    Australia is in the process of finding out.

  137. Stimpson J. Cat

    I’ve been pointing out for two years that the homosexual “marriage” movement is utterly white and breathtakingly racist. Too late now but that fact is now being noticed in the press. So yeah. Yay.

    It’s weird though because they always seem to only have ethnic kids.
    Do the white ones run out quicker, or is it a fashion statement type thing?

  138. Joe

    How many times does Socialism need to be experimented with before it is finally declared a failure both economically and morally?

    Apparently, until it’s not.

  139. Bruce of Newcastle

    If that sounds dramatic, consider the facts.

    Facts and the ABC are incompatible.
    We could be self sufficient in oil and gas if we wanted to be. We could be self sufficient in refinery capacity if we wanted to be. We have enough coal to convert to crude oil to last for centuries. It has been piloted. The tech is off the shelf. We have a large chunk of the world’s known uranium and thorium. Even the electric vehicles factoid is crap. If there’s one country on earth which electric vehicles are the worst possible answer it is Australia. Or maybe a close second to Siberia. Bloody ABC, they should all be deported to Saudi Arabia. /rantoff

  140. Rabz

    How many times does Socialism need to be experimented with before it is finally declared a failure both economically and morally?

    As that filthy, insane syphilitic ol’ bum marx declared – socialism can never be implemented properly unless it is imposed globally.

    In other words, they’ll just keep on trying and failing, interminably.

    “Next time we’ll get it right”

  141. IR,
    Will there be a rush on AARS fisheye lenses if the yes vote gets up?
    Asking for a friend…

  142. hzhousewife

    It’s weird though because they always seem to only have ethnic kids.
    Do the white ones run out quicker, or is it a fashion statement type thing?

    It was quite a fad

  143. Stimpson J. Cat

    How many times does Socialism need to be experimented with before it is finally declared a failure both economically and morally?

    Until it works Comrade.
    Until it works.

  144. Mitch M.

    NBNwatch: It’s all hopelessly politicised

    Due to the 18 month deadline a friend of mine was forced to changed over to the NBN. Now one month without a phone and a barely usable internet. Strange how the MSM is largely ignoring this issue. I’m contemplating going wireless but as the plan for my region is HFC connection perhaps I’ll be saved from all the problems.

  145. Mitch M.

    How many times does Socialism need to be experimented with before it is finally declared a failure both economically and morally?

    We were warned …

    “Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen.”
    ― Friedrich Nietzsche

  146. srr

    Sheriff David Clarke: Las Vegas Investigation is “Suspicious”

    Former Milwaukee Sheriff, David Clarke said on Thursday that he has been in law enforcement for nearly 40 years and he’s suspicious about everything surrounding the Vegas shooter because of the lack of public engagement.

    David Clarke sent out a tweet on Thursday, “I’ve been in law enforcement nearly 40 years & I’m suspicious about everything. We need to engage the public more.”

    We are dealing with the Deep State FBI…how can we trust them?

    Wednesday night a press conference was held jointly by the FBI and the local Sheriff in Las Vegas concerning the recent killing of at least 59 people in that city a few days ago. The Sheriff was very transparent in the information he supplied. But the major question that everyone wants to know is – why did the killer do it? What was his motive?

    At this point, the FBI Investigator took the microphone. Instead of providing any information relevant to the mass murder – suicide, he berated everyone there and the millions watching on TV. The Special Agent In Charge for the Las Vegas Division of the FBI said:

    Our resolve is firm. We will get to the bottom of this no matter how long it takes…we must focus on facts. We cannot give into conjecture. We cannot respond to every little Twitter feed that may indicate a theory. We need to be focused on the facts. You need us to be right. You expect us to be right and we want to be right….

    After interviewing the killer’s girlfriend and God knows what else the FBI has uncovered, they provide nothing.

    The FBI’s lack of transparency along with the corrupt and criminal acts by former FBI Directors lead all of America to begin forming conspiracy theories and to further lose trust in the FBI.

    It’s time that the FBI cleans shop and restores it name and reputation.

    The Islamic State tripled down on the Las Vegas massacre on Thursday.

    The Islamic terrorist group claimed Stephen Paddock converted to Islam six months ago.

    On Monday ISIS released a statement on the Las Vegas shooting then doubled down on its claim in a rare second statement later the same day.

    What does the FBI know about Paddock’s association with ISIS or evidence that he converted to Islam? The Las Vegas Sheriff only once briefly floated the idea that maybe Paddock was radicalized.

    The American people deserve to know what pushed Paddock to shoot into a crowd of thousands of innocent people, ultimately killing 59 and injuring over 500.

    more at –
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/10/sheriff-david-clarke-las-vegas-investigation-suspicious/

  147. thefrolickingmole

    Rabz
    The Bottom Inspectors
    LOL. I’d never heard of them before – thanks Rusty.

    Try Mille Tant then, used to be satire, now its a “how to” guide.

    http://viz.co.uk/category/millie-tant/

    Or even Nobbys Piles..

  148. Rabz

    mole – I used to find Sid the Sexist and Terry F*ckwit very amusing.

  149. Mother Lode

    As that filthy, insane syphilitic ol’ bum marx declared – socialism can never be implemented properly unless it is imposed globally.

    I saw someone on Bolta’s, stung by the assertion that Marx and Engels just lived off other people’s money, retort that both Marx and Engels were journalists. Presumably because they both suppurated opinions onto paper when the build up of politico-economic-indignation pus caused them to rupture, and they sent the sickly dripping mess to newspapers.

    Funny thing is, in Ultimo they would be.

  150. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The only people who don’t recognise the nervous laughter of the guilty as sin, busted cold, are not the sort of people they have to try to convince they aren’t busted cold, guilty as sin.

    Life is full of paradox isn’t it, srr?
    If only I could work out what you are talking about.

  151. srr

    Body Language Expert: Las Vegas Killer’s Brother Knows More Than He is Saying (VIDEO)

    This is a fascinating video. [yes, it is]

    more at –
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/10/body-language-expert-las-vegas-killers-brother-knows-saying-video/

  152. stackja

    Senile Old Guy
    #2516294, posted on October 6, 2017 at 1:30 pm
    Their ABC:

    Every major nation can benefit from a swift switch to electric vehicles, but Australia’s very existence may rely on it. If that sounds dramatic, consider the facts. Australia is now heading towards 100 per cent import dependency on fuel, primarily from the Middle East and through Asia.

    And how do you charge the things in the middle of the Simpson Desert? Or on the run from Darwin to Alice Spring? Or, in fact, anywhere outside the major cities?

    ABC using electric vehicles?

  153. thefrolickingmole

    Rabz.

    Finbarr Saunders was good as well.

    Some of the top tips were funny as well.

  154. cuckoo

    It’s weird though because they always seem to only have ethnic kids.

    Funny how the tv show Absolutely Fabulous was so popular amongst precisely the people it was sending up. When Eddie Monsoon discovered her daughter was pregnant to an African man, she was ectstatic: “Mixed-race baby! The ultimate fashion statement!” There followed a fantasy sequence of Eddie bumping fists with Rastas, etc. In other episodes, the African father, who was presented as little better than an idiot, asked Eddie’s gay ex-husband “Which one of you is the lady?” Can you imagine the BBC making this show today?

  155. The Islamic State tripled down on the Las Vegas massacre on Thursday.

    Let’s imagine for a moment that Paddock was an agent of ISIS;
    They must be really pissed that they are not getting any credit for their hard work.

  156. stackja

    Mitch M.
    #2516313, posted on October 6, 2017 at 1:52 pm
    NBNwatch: It’s all hopelessly politicised

    Due to the 18 month deadline a friend of mine was forced to changed over to the NBN. Now one month without a phone and a barely usable internet. Strange how the MSM is largely ignoring this issue. I’m contemplating going wireless but as the plan for my region is HFC connection perhaps I’ll be saved from all the problems.

    MSM likes NBN.

  157. Better still we register / license arseholes (annual fee required).
    Think of it as a deficit buster.

    Wouldn’t that be an anal fee?
    *runs away*

  158. zyconoclast

    I’m quite happy to send poo samples to the government. As a taxpayer, it seems a reasonable response.

    If I thought it would help I would go beyond samples and send them real deal but they are already so full of beyond samples I save myself the bother.

    Your samples are already being tested for drugs.

    ALCOHOL AND DRUG TESTING IN WASTEWATER:
    Summary Results from March 2015 Testing in Melbourne

    NATIONAL WASTEWATER
    DRUG MONITORING PROGRAM 2017

    How long before individual monitoring?

  159. Tim Neilson

    I saw someone on Bolta’s, stung by the assertion that Marx and Engels just lived off other people’s money, retort that both Marx and Engels were journalists.

    Was that supposed to be a refutation?

  160. zyconoclast

    I wonder how many Victorians tutting about the waste of money spent on the plebiscite, say nothing about Dan spending ten times as much not to build a road.

    Or money spent on safe schools p3dos in the playground

  161. srr

    Funny thing is that expert crime investigators, businessmen etc. are naturally skilled at reading people, and no one doubts this, in fact many try very hard to teach themselves those reading skills, usually to give themselves a cheat advantage over others (God hands out gifts for His purposes 😉 ), but mention that people are also skilled at reading what Google et al algorithms are written to pick up on, and those same CON artists go all spastic about it.

    They also to tend to pack and get dangerously savage when they see evidence that they have yet again failed to sell their deceptive narratives to natural readers –

    The Las Vegas Shooter Story Changes Once Again
    Stefan Molyneux
    Oct 5, 2017
    On October 1st, 2017 at approximately 10pm, 64-year-old Stephen Paddock used a hammer-like implement to smash two windows in his 32nd floor suite at of the Mandalay Bay casino in Las Vegas, Nevada.

    Outside the smashed windows, a crowd of approximately 22,000 had gathered for the Route 91 Harvest country music festival – inside were several gun tripods, 23 different firearms – some with scopes, others with bump-stock devices – and thousands of rounds of ammunition. Bump stocks are legal accessories that allow semi-automatic weapons to fire at rates approaching that of fully automatic weapons.

    At 10:08pm, Police reported receiving the first call of shots fired at the country music festival and 72 minutes later Paddock was found dead in his room by the responding SWAT team.

    During those 72 minutes, 58 people were murdered, 489 were injured and the lives of thousands were irreparably damaged forever as a result of the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history.

  162. zyconoclast

    Mercedes has made a ute, and it’s awesome The Oz

    https://www.motoring.com.au/not-a-rebadged-navara-mercedes-benz-defends-x-class-108078/

    Mercedes-Benz has barely pulled the wraps of its highly anticipated X-Class utility and the flak is flying!

    And that’s in a large part because when the sheets came off in South Africa overnight, the
    production model revealed was substantially closer in look to the Nissan Navara on which it is based, than the striking concepts previewed.

    Already motoring.com.au Facebook and Disqus forums are attracting feedback criticising the styling of the new dual-cab.

  163. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    ‘Glee’ Actor Pleads Guilty to Child Pornography Charges:

    Glee of course was the prime time smash hit show that tried to normalise tranvestism and homosexualism.

  164. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The Beloved is out on his Dong exchange as I type. We apparently need USD on entry into Cambodia for visas.

    ATM’s in Cambodia offer a choice of currencies – Cambodian – the name of which escapes me, or U.S. Dollars. Paying for a meal with Sam Grant’s mug on the notes is appreciated.

  165. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    I saw someone on Bolta’s, stung by the assertion that Marx and Engels just lived off other people’s money, retort that both Marx and Engels were journalists.

    And like all the modern commies, Marx sent his kids to private school.

  166. zk2a. All of the Chinese companies that I buy product from, deal exclusively in USD. Most have shelf companies in the US to handle the money. The goods are all delivered from China.

  167. Roger;

    There is a compelling public health case for a publicly funded vaccination program, but I can’t see it for bowel cancer screening – nanny state over reach. One visit a year to a GP should cover investigations for a lot of age related or family history related conditions.

    There is probably department in Federal Health running this program with about 40 staff.
    The mission is employment in eternity – checking the byproducts of the Australian Collective Arsehole is just a sideline…

  168. calli

    I am now the proud owner of some brand new Benjamin Franklins, complete with new security features. A quick web search reveals these are the subject of conspiracy theories.

    Should the Vogons commence their new intergalactic highway today, I have my electronic thumb embedded in the notes. Honesty prevents me from pinching a hotel towel.

  169. Senile Old Guy

    There is a compelling public health case for a publicly funded vaccination program, but I can’t see it for bowel cancer screening – nanny state over reach. One visit a year to a GP should cover investigations for a lot of age related or family history related conditions.

    Okay, Roger, I have twice posted a link to a review that concluded that the screening program saved more public money than it cost. You have, in numerous posts, made no attempt to rebut that. You just claim that you “can’t see it”. It is more like you won’t see it.

    From the report you will not read or refer to: Net benefit ($m) 720.23. Further:

    It was estimated that health care cost savings from earlier stage detection of bowel cancer would total $5.3 million. It was estimated that reduced incidence of bowel cancer with screening would result in health care cost savings of $20.8 million and other financial cost savings of $74.2 million. Reduced mortality would result in productivity and indirect cost savings of $23.6 million.

    Now rebut that. The screenings saves (or extends, if you prefer) lives, catches cases earlier (when they are more treatable) and saves money in reduced medical costs and increased productive life. If it did not achieve these objectives, I would be ready to criticise it. In fact, when it was first introduced, I was skeptical. But it is an excellent example of an evidence based scheme allowing early detection and treatment of terrible disease:

    Australia has one of the highest rates of bowel cancer in the world. It is the second most commonly diagnosed cancer nationally and the second single leading cause of cancer death (AIHW, 2010). There were an estimated 14,234 new cases of bowel cancer in 2007 and 4,047 deaths that year from the disease.

    There is hardly a clearer case for government intervention. In the last decade, some 40,000 people have been saved from death from a deadly disease and 140,000 cases have been detected and treated.

    Doctor’s visits are, if you are lucky, 10 to 15 minutes, which is hardly enough time to do anything. People who pay, like me, get charged significant sums for that. People who are bulk billed do not return enough money to the practice, so get moved through as quickly as possible. The alternative is the extremely expensive, but effective (if you can afford it) US system, or the completely-publicly funded (and free to the patient), but monstrously bureaucratic and inefficient UK system.

  170. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    I can see more public good in the government sticking a hose in our arses than just about anything else they do.

  171. Stimpson J. Cat

    Glee of course was the prime time smash hit show that tried to normalise tranvestism and homosexualism.

    What was the name of Macaulay Culkins band again?
    Oh yeah.
    The Pizza Underground.

  172. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account
    @realDonaldTrump

    Movie producer Harvey Weinstein, who lost his company to Colony Capital, is against guns but makes movies w/ major gun violence–really!
    7:36 AM – 20 Jan 2014

    It’s spooky how Trump does this.

  173. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The ABC do like to keep it in the family:
    Emma Ayres: ABC Classic FM radio breakfast program
    Her partner is Jane Allen, a writer and producer of the ABC drama series Janet King.

    I’ve always liked Emma Ayres’ voice on Classic FM. I’ve never had any listening doubt that it is a female voice, sort of contralto, and looking at her vid and photograph she clearly has done her best in mannerisms and appearance to come up as the male partner in a lesbian relationship. Very like what some Cats here call ‘that Wong chap’. If she is happier claiming to be a full-on bloke, that’s fine as a personal choice.

    It doesn’t make her a man though. I suppose there is a level of continuum in the sense and appearance of gender differentiation (from the pic Emma does have ‘man hands’ but so do many women), but basically, genetically in every cell, you are either male or female, or sadly chromosomally compromised, which is a rare genetic error. As I understand it, nearly all lesbians taking the male role in relationships are perfectly normal genetic females. But if they want to dress the masculine and try to be male, good luck to them.

    Doesn’t fool me. 🙂

  174. zyconoclast

    I doubled up on the links before.
    This is the other one.
    https://www.acic.gov.au/sites/g/files/net1491/f/national_wastewater_drug_monitoring_program_report_1_0.pdf?v=1490333695

    INTERNATIONAL COMPARISONS
    Of the European countries with comparable reported data for the four common stimulants considered (MDMA, cocaine, amphetamine and methylamphetamine), Australia has the second highest total estimated consumption overall.

    Australia ranks second of the 18 countries for consumption of methylamphetamine

  175. thefrolickingmole

    How to propaganda…

    1: Sensationalist headline, no one glancing at would think justifyable.

    Video shows Utah police fatally shooting man from behind as he fled
    Police face no charges amid accusations of racial profiling and ‘brutal execution’ in case of Patrick Harmon, 50, who was pulled over for cycling without a light

    Followed by some bland procedure leading to the shooting.

    Police in Utah fatally shot a man from behind while he was running away from officers, according to newly released footage, which has sparked accusations of racial profiling and a “brutal execution”.
    Prosecutors in Salt Lake City have said officers were justified in killing Patrick Harmon, 50, who was pulled over for riding a bicycle without a light and who attempted to flee when police tried to arrest him. Police are not facing charges despite the fact that the body-camera footage captured officer Clinton Fox shouting “I’ll fucking shoot you!” from a distance before he fired three bullets into Harmon, who was running in the opposite direction.


    Then bury the real reason they were unwilling to let him get away in the middle..

    According to prosecutors, officer Kris Smith pulled him over because he saw him “ride his bicycle across all six road lanes and a median” and he didn’t have a “required red rear tail light”. The officer said he wanted to “discuss the situation” with Harmon.
    The policeman eventually called for backup and determined that Harmon had an outstanding warrant for aggravated assault, according to prosecutors.

    ..

    Followed by more memorialising of the chap.
    The family hadn’t seen Patrick Harmon for several years since a funeral for one of his brothers – a death that hit him hard, said Antoinette. She said her brother may have been struggling with mental illness, and the family believes he may have been homeless at one point.
    “The police are going to stick together no matter if it’s wrong or right,” she added. “They don’t care about black lives.”
    Police are rarely charged and almost never convicted for use of force in the US, where the law generally allows officers to use lethal force if they claim that they perceived a threat.
    “He was just being profiled,” said Shaw. “Why do we have to fight so hard for justice? All we want is to be treated equal as a black person instead of being profiled and looked at as if we were a threat.”
    Antionette said her brother was “goofy and fun to be around” and helped her raise her children. “He did everything he could. He was like a protector. He made sure that nobody hurt us.”

    Pure propaganda dressed up as reporting.

  176. thefrolickingmole

    zyconoclast

    We had a worker go positive for opiates and meth a few weeks back.

    The cutoff for meth is about 150, she was cruising along on a level over 5000 when tested.
    Not a bad effort I thought.

  177. zyconoclast

    The cutoff for meth is about 150, she was cruising along on a level over 5000 when tested.
    Not a bad effort I thought.

    With that concentration, she could have sold her urine as a mid-afternoon “pick me up.”

  178. Bruce of Newcastle

    How long before individual monitoring?

    Zyconoclast – quite possibly never.

    Washington State Supreme Court rules random urinalysis is unconstitutional (yesterday)

    SPOKANE, Wash. (AP) — Requiring people who are arrested for driving under the influence to submit to random urinalysis tests as a condition of release is unconstitutional, the Washington Supreme Court ruled Thursday.

    “Urinalysis is at least as invasive as a roadblock or a pat down search,” the Supreme Court said, concluding that court-ordered testing “constitutes an acute privacy invasion by the state.”

    The point of course is the Green Left religion has certain sacraments, often grown or manufactured in houses with black curtains. A lefty state like Washington, with a lefty state supreme court, has found that testing for the use of such sacraments is haram.

    What is the bet that the whole Left goes this way and does stuff like challenge drug testing at workplaces? I suspect several local unions would just love that.

  179. Stimpson J. Cat

    Washington State Supreme Court rules random urinalysis is unconstitutional

    I don’t care.
    Nothing will stop me taking the p$ss.

  180. Zatara

    Every major nation can benefit from a swift switch to electric vehicles, but Australia’s very existence may rely on it. If that sounds dramatic, consider the facts. Australia is now heading towards 100 per cent import dependency on fuel, primarily from the Middle East and through Asia.

    And how do you charge the things in the middle of the Simpson Desert? Or on the run from Darwin to Alice Spring? Or, in fact, anywhere outside the major cities?

    In a country which already leads the world in price of electricity, with states where blown and black outs are already common, where pensioners can’t afford to run their heaters now, where is the power to come from and at what cost?

    Or is the fact that driving will be restricted to the elites already factored into their plan?

  181. Arky

    Making the assumption that the vegas shooter had a similar unpleasant and superior attitude as displayed by his brother I predict the following will come out about the murdering turd:
    He made his money in drugs, probably importation.
    He did not act alone, but part of a conspiracy.
    He probably had a terminal illness.

  182. Arky

    And he will have left a manifesto.

  183. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    A significant issue with occult blood bowel cancer screening is false positives and false negatives. The rates are not high, and with false positives not a problem, because a further check can show the problem does not exist. However, false negatives mean people with the disease, especially in early stages, slip through the detection net and have a false sense of security. Overall, health economics comes into it: if you lose a few in mortality via false negatives the loss is bearable against the high number you will have saved. The extra burden of additional checks on false positives is not as great as allowing the population of ‘worried well’ to gain access to government funded colonoscopies. It’s just too bad if you happen to be the one caught in the trade-off. Doctors are now discouraged from ordering funded colonoscopies unless there are protocol presenting symptoms. One of the aims of this testing has been to reduce the level of funded colonoscopies, something to remember when you don’t get one.

    This of course applies to many situations of testing and prevention. Some tests matter to an individual’s chances of survival more than other tests do. Very expensive tests (CAT scans for the presence of silent but incipient atherosclerosis, MRI’s for undiagnosed headaches) will never be offered to the general population for prevention, only for diagnostics following symptomatic presentation. Pay if you are worried. You could spend your money on worse things.

  184. Mitch M.

    The cutoff for meth is about 150, she was cruising along on a level over 5000 when tested.
    Not a bad effort I thought

    .

    Strange twist … . A MAO B inhibitor, used by some as a neurotropic, selegiline, often used to treat Parkinson’s disease, has methamphetamine and amphetamine as metabolites! A former colleague used this drug in his latter years. He obtained it through a source he would not tell me about. Wouldn’t mind trying it myself because it does enhance wakefulness and reduce sleep time.

  185. Senile Old Guy

    INTERNATIONAL COMPARISONS
    Of the European countries with comparable reported data for the four common stimulants considered (MDMA, cocaine, amphetamine and methylamphetamine), Australia has the second highest total estimated consumption overall.

    And there are people who claim we can’t compete on the world stage!

  186. Senile Old Guy

    Or is the fact that driving will be restricted to the elites already factored into their plan?

    Yes. I don’t go for conspiracy theories but the poorer people now have to choose between eating and heating, there is little concern shown by Those Who Care For The Planet (more than for people).

  187. Eyrie

    Poo samples to the government means they have your DNA which means you can be fitted up for anything.

  188. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Having said the above about colonoscopies, there is of course a morbidity and morality issue with anything requiring an anaesthetic and expertise with internal probing technology. A bad operator or an idiosyncratic bowel structure can cause a rupture, and poor anaesthesiology or idiosyncratic reactions can also occur.

    Swings and roundabouts, as with all medicine. Take control of your own health though, know these things and assess them yourself or with good advice.

  189. Baldrick

    Only on TheirABC:

    ABC News @abcnews
    A look beyond @Nick_Xenophon’s antics reveals a serious political power broker writes Louise Yaxley

  190. Senile Old Guy

    A significant issue with occult blood bowel cancer screening is false positives and false negatives. The rates are not high, and with false positives not a problem, because a further check can show the problem does not exist.

    The newer immunological test is, I understand, considerably better all round that earlier tests.

    Having said the above about colonoscopies, there is of course a morbidity and morality issue with anything requiring an anaesthetic and expertise with internal probing technology. A bad operator or an idiosyncratic bowel structure can cause a rupture, and poor anaesthesiology or idiosyncratic reactions can also occur.

    Yes, I have had anaesthetic a few times and it doesn’t affect me at all but some can be quite ill afterwards or have very bad reactions. And only go to people you trust. Get recommendations, if you can.

  191. Myrddin Seren

    In a country which already leads the world in price of electricity, with states where blown and black outs are already common, where pensioners can’t afford to run their heaters now, where is the power to come from and at what cost?

    Or is the fact that driving will be restricted to the elites already factored into their plan?

    Count on it.

    There is no way in creation that the Green-Left will endorse anything that doesn’t cut back on the access of significant tranches of the Proles to modern conveniences and consumption.

    Note again – from the Turnbull United Party’s fantasy plan to slash Australia’s CO2E to meet the Paris targets that no big emitters will get within cooee of

    A big yellow band labelled ‘vehicle efficiency’.

    If Turnbull, Fletcher and FriedEggBurger weren’t so completely on the nose with the Deplorables, they would have scampered after their European, British and Scottish colleagues to announce the banning of sales of ICE vehicles by….?

    The Europeans are talking about 2040 as the cut-off date to de-motorise their Proles. Australia always runs in head long and the Political Class appears totally hostage to the public service Malcontents and crony rentseekers.

    So my bet is 2030 will be announced as the date the Deplorables in Australia learn to love walking and bike riding.

  192. stackja

    Senile Old Guy
    #2516383, posted on October 6, 2017 at 3:25 pm
    And only go to people you trust. Get recommendations, if you can.

    As with all things.

  193. OneWorldGovernment

    Tintarella di Luna
    #2516187, posted on October 6, 2017 at 11:47 am

    The latest effort from Dr Tim Southpossumass.

    As one of the three students at QUT said: Combating racism with racism – the official position portrays white people are racist and ONLY white people

    I have never forgotten an incident in Melbourne (Collins Street building) many years ago when I walked through one of those glass type doorways and held the door for the person following me.

    Must have been fresh out of Monash University because ‘she’ started to berate me for being patriarchal.

    I just smiled, told her to go and get fundamentally far away and pulled the door shut and continued on my way.

    If that is truly an advertisement from Australia’s so called Human Rights Commission then it needs to be shutdown NOW.

  194. Leo G

    Every major nation can benefit from a swift switch to electric vehicles, but Australia’s very existence may rely on it. If that sounds dramatic, consider the facts. Australia is now heading towards 100 per cent import dependency on fuel, primarily from the Middle East and through Asia.

    We’re fortunate then, that Australian electric vehicles are pushed along by alarmism.

  195. Roger

    Doctor’s visits are, if you are lucky, 10 to 15 minutes, which is hardly enough time to do anything.

    A point I already made.

    So now we have federally funded programs to do what tax payer subsidised doctors don’t have the time to do.

    There truly was never a problem government intervention didn’t exacerbate.

  196. H B Bear

    ABC using electric vehicles?

    Bernie Hobbs, one of those tax moochers at the ALPBC who seem to inhabit the place yet have no actual purpose tried. Tim Blair reported on how our Bern went (hint – not well). All in all, a fascinating case study into how a staff co-op member gets on when they leave the collective and try and live in the real world.

  197. Myrddin Seren

    From Zippy this morning:

    In a sharp rebuke to President Trump’s expanded deportation orders, Gov. Jerry Brown signed landmark “sanctuary state” legislation Thursday, vastly limiting who state and local law enforcement agencies can hold, question and transfer at the request of federal immigration authorities.

    Feds: We guard the borders of the nation and decide which non-citizens can and cannot enter/stay !

    The DPR of Mexifornia: No – we decide who stays !

    How is this not de facto secession ?

  198. dopey

    Turnbull Stakes tomorrow at Flemington.
    Potential Greatness not running.

  199. Fergus

    Maybe they are going to rejoin Mexico?

  200. H B Bear

    Potential Greatness not running.

    Scratched. About 18 months ago.

  201. Stimpson J. Cat

    In a sharp rebuke to President Trump’s expanded deportation orders, Gov. Jerry Brown signed landmark “sanctuary state” legislation Thursday, vastly limiting who state and local law enforcement agencies can hold, question and transfer at the request of federal immigration authorities.

    I knew they needed more gardener’s but I didn’t realize it was this bad.

  202. Senile Old Guy

    Tim Blair reported on how our Bern went (hint – not well).

    From the piece:

    UPDATE. Ross Blade, of the company that built Bernie Hobb’s car, comments:
    Ms Hobb’s battery pack was allowed to run dead flat while the car was at her mechanics for two weeks. Warranty does not extend to allowing the battery to go flat. This is a common warranty limitation and would go a long way to explain the poor resale price. I am disappointed that this important fact was committed by the Telegraph.

    A battery anecdote: I have an Android tablet and I allowed the battery to completely exhaust (I think I did not plug the charger cord in properly). It died. After a week on charge, it was still dead. That’ll learn me, I thought. Anyway, It was sitting on a bench out of the way, so I just left it. Several months later, getting something from that bench, I bumped the tablet and it had come back to life. I’m still using it (and charging it more carefully).

  203. Fergus

    Hollywood needs its slaves.

  204. Baldrick

    The Stupid.Fucking.Liberal, known as George Brandis:

    I was surprised and saddened to learn of Nick Xenophon’s decision to resign from the Senate.
    On behalf of Government Senators, I take this opportunity to thank him for his service.
    Personally, Nick and I have always got on very well and I have enjoyed his company and quirky sense of humour. I will miss him.

  205. Mother Lode

    I will miss him.

    At least he is honest.

    He has a profound professional respect for a fellow self-aggrandising turd.

  206. Senile Old Guy

    Who knew Brandis did satire so well?

    I was surprised and saddened to learn of Nick Xenophon’s decision to resign from the Senate. Although we represent different political points of view, I and other members of the Government have always been able to engage constructively with Senator Xenophon across a range of important legislation.

  207. Geriatric Mayfly

    The point of course is the Green Left religion has certain sacraments, often grown or manufactured in houses with black curtains

    And their Druids get into Parliaments like ours. Incidental to this, just cleaned the fishpond surface of green slime by the handful. Could not help but think of the obvious analogy.

  208. H B Bear

    Brandis is a Lieboral laughing stock. He is an absurd figure who belongs in a Dickens novel. Or a meat grinder.

  209. lotocoti

    A significant issue with occult blood bowel cancer screening is false positives and false negatives.

    Which is how “Let’s do one anyway.” becomes “That was a surprise.”
    Pro tip: A pithy bon mot, ready to go, really lightens the mood when you surface mid-way through the procedure.
    Everyone laughs except the Anaesthetist. She’s busy reaching for a clump hammer.

  210. Brandis #1 on the ticket.

    The best of the libs.

  211. zyconoclast

    General Motors executive says Elon Musk’s self-driving claims are ‘full of crap’

    I know that GM is just a giant tax mooching version of Tesla Cars but it is good to hear someone have a go a Musk.

    Most the politicians in Australia a silent because I imagine it is hard to talk while fellating Elon Musk.

  212. Nick

    HTF is Brandis a Queenslander ? Lmao.

  213. Geriatric Mayfly

    Try as I might to resist, there are names here that make me ashamed to be an Australian.

    A senior member of the Comanchero bikie gang has been denied bail after half a kilogram of cocaine and a loaded revolver were allegedly seized from a car during raids connected to Sydney’s gangland war.
    Hayman Chandab, 35, was arrested during a series of raids on Thursday morning at Blackett, Meadowbank, Mt Druitt, Stanhope Gardens, St Marys and The Ponds.
    The operation, by Strikeforce Raptor officers, came after a 12-month investigation into the 2016 hit on Mehmet Yilmaz, who was executed in front of his horrified fiancee in St Mary’s in September.
    Eight men, including five who are already behind bars, are now facing charges over the 29-year-old’s death, along with his kidnapping in the lead up to the shooting.
    Chandab was taken into custody when a loaded .357 Smith & Wesson magnum revolver, more than 500 grams of cocaine, a ballistic vest, drug paraphernalia, steroids and Alprazolam were seized from a car at a St Marys industrial unit.
    His matter was adjourned on Friday to December 1 in Penrith Local Court.
    One of the men who faced court on Thursday included alleged Lone Wolf bikie head Erkan Keskin, who was granted bail during a hearing at Central Local Court.

  214. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    I was surprised and saddened to learn of Nick Xenophon’s decision to resign from the Senate. Although we represent different political points of view

    Brandis is further to the left.

  215. H B Bear

    HTF is Brandis a Queenslander ? Lmao.

    So is Bob”Mad” Katter and “Brokeback” Warren Entsch. Weirdos.

  216. Fergus

    Have the dung rats who attacked Bolt been identified yet?

  217. Stimpson J. Cat

    Have the dung rats who attacked Bolt been identified yet?

    Just blame The Chaser and arrest them all, the girlfriend slapping slappers that they are.

  218. stackja

    Geriatric Mayfly
    #2516428, posted on October 6, 2017 at 4:24 pm
    Try as I might to resist, there are names here that make me ashamed to be an Australian.

    Because of all the Smith, Jones and Brown involved?

  219. Fergus

    Protected species. Why?

  220. stackja

    One Aussie murdered overseas each week
    AAP, The Daily Telegraph
    an hour ago
    Subscriber only
    FROM terror attacks to barfights or shootings on the street, almost one Australian is murdered overseas every week, while dozens more are arrested for criminal or immigration matters.

    A report on Australia’s recent consular assistance reveals 49 Australians were murdered overseas in the financial year ending June 30.

    High-profile cases involving Australians in the past year include Kirsty Boden and Sara Zelenak, who died in the London Bridge terror attack, and Darwin man Matthew Bate, who died in a San Francisco barfight.

  221. Stimpson J. Cat

    alleged Lone Wolf bikie head Erkan Keskin,

    Is he related to Furkan?

  222. The electorate should now have a better understanding of the dilemma facing US foreign policy makers.

    To ease the suffering of millions, sure you can get rid of the out of control, crazy dictator (PM), but WTF do you replace him with?

  223. srr

    Replic*nt
    Count Dankula

    Oct 5, 2017
    [dedicated to all the, ‘Anita “choke me, slap me, and fuck my brains out, daddy” Sarkeesian’s’, out there who still delude themselves and their grovellers into believing they aren’t pinged and scheduled for a meeting with real life 😀 ]

  224. stackja

    Old School Conservative
    #2516130, posted on October 6, 2017 at 10:32 am
    On the use of the word bullies.

    Thuggee – Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thuggee
    Thuggee or tuggee refers to the acts of Thugs, an organised gang of professional robbers and murderers. Thugs travelled in groups across the Indian sub-continent for six hundred years.

  225. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From Rabz at 1:49 pm:

    ” How many times does Socialism need to be experimented with before it is finally declared a failure both economically and morally?

    As that filthy, insane syphilitic ol’ bum marx declared – socialism …”

    Ahhh, from another school of thought on economics to that favoured by your good self, I see. 😉

  226. GM;

    Try as I might to resist, there are names here that make me ashamed to be an Australian.

    Yair.
    Good Aussie names there, GM.
    🙂

  227. srr

    Oh look, so many more from the whoreses stable, branding themselves fit only for meat –

    MILEY CYRUS Crying In Hillary’s Arm On Jimmy Fallon, Tucker Carlson Laughs At Hollywood
    IamMarcus
    Oct 5, 2017
    MILEY CYRUS Crying In Hillary’s Arm On Jimmy Fallon, Tucker Carlson Laughs At Hollywood Celebrities Discuss On FOX News

    Excerpts From FOX News
    http://www.foxnews.com
    [but seriously, how much are some of these more shit scared of being Arkensided, than actually being that stupidly. arrogantly. evil?]

  228. cohenite

    That snide, anaemic sack of crap Monbiot is cock a hoop about the imminent demise of all livestock farming because the chinese are getting into artificial lab meat. Monbiot salivates:

    One study suggests that if we were all to switch to a plant-based diet, 15m hectares of land in Britain currently used for farming could be returned to nature. Alternatively, this country could feed 200 million people. An end to animal farming would be the salvation of the world’s wildlife, our natural wonders and magnificent habitats

    .

    After renewables have their way there will be no nature anyway as windfarms and solar farms decimate landscapes.

  229. Ha!
    IRS gets pinged for gouging taxpayers by demanding they have a special licence, then decide to charge them for it.
    Then someone started a class action suit.

  230. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Las Vegas and ISIS. Interesting thread:

    https://twitter.com/rcallimachi/status/915998590153129984

  231. srr

    cohenite
    #2516458, posted on October 6, 2017 at 5:26 pm

    That snide, anaemic sack of crap Monbiot is cock a hoop about the imminent demise of all livestock farming because the chinese are getting into artificial lab meat. Monbiot salivates:

    Something they’d have Buckley’s of doing if it weren’t for Communists (moonlighting as private companies) that collect and sell the most detailed data of primary producers to their competition and the Government (BIRM), while they double moonlight (twilight?), as ‘freedom loving‘ members of Govt.

  232. notafan

    GM

    Read the ‘Bikie’ piece.

    Shameful by the presence of the names of Mr Smith and Mr Wesson?

  233. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    oops. Just saw upthread. A morbidity and mortality issue.
    What a difference a ‘t’ makes.

  234. Stimpson J. Cat

    Replic*nt
    Count Dankula

    I trust his dog but I don’t trust him srr.

    Not until he gets that Commie tattoo taken off his heart.

  235. notafan

    Stackja; beat me to it.

  236. srr

    hee hee, how many Scots have you known?

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2516470, posted on October 6, 2017 at 5:41 pm

    Replic*nt
    Count Dankula

    I trust his dog but I don’t trust him srr.

    Not until he gets that Commie tattoo taken off his heart.

    But all that aside :), if I had to trust a shit posting, aspy spectrumed, openly declared atheist with a Nazi tatt, over a crucifix wielding, holier-than-thou-cow, pretend christian who argues for the State to take and kill your children, I’ll go The Count.

    Sure some choices are near impossible, some are bloody hard, and others are so shit easy … don’t even worry about it! 😉

    Oh and, Women Aren’t Funny!

  237. Roger

    HTF is Brandis a Queenslander ? Lmao. So is Bob”Mad” Katter and “Brokeback” Warren Entsch. Weirdos.

    Land of fruits & nuts.

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