Open Forum: October 7, 2017

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  1. stackja

    H B Bear
    #2517111, posted on October 7, 2017 at 2:52 pm
    zyconoclast – the Israelis have been administering collective justice for years. Palli Jnr gets too excited and splodey and the next day the bulldozers are sent around to the family home for a D 9 renovation.

    And MSM/UN go into conniptions.

  2. rickw

    Anyone else agree with Mr Barnes?

    The modern trend is huge disconnects between The Vibe and The Result. I’m not convinced that this isn’t one of those instances. Polished celebrity endorsed campaigns don’t carry that much weight, you might like a particular actor, but do you really give a fuck what they think outside of that?

  3. H B Bear

    And MSM/UN go into conniptions.

    Other than the usual suspects I’m not sure that anyone loses too much sleep over that.

  4. overburdened

    It is noted that there are reports of thousands of people out of the millions in residence protesting the Adani mine in such mining hotspots as Bondi Beach, Port Douglas and Carlton North. Questions-
    How many of these anti’s have been to the Northern Highlands of QLD? How many of those who have would choose to live out there with or without mines? How many of all the anti’s run privately owned income generating businesses that produce a material product? How many would relocate their privately owned income generating businesses that produce a material product to Clermont or similar?
    I humbly offer that without the mines there would be even less of nothing much out there. It is too far away from anywhere (Peak Downs around 300k inland from Mackay) to worry many of the 230,00 people in NQ at a rate of around 3 people per square Km with almost all of them living on the coast. The land is poor for much other than mineral exploitation.
    These people give me the shits.

  5. Cynical1;

    The strongest weapon the muzzies have is the racism card.

    It’s an Ace card because it’s backed up by the threat of violence.
    It may not always be physical violence, it can be legal, financial, social, or even the ability to play the victim card in any appropriate situation.
    One of the regulars was recounting Muslim behaviour in a Christian hospital.
    Why do you think the woman asked if the milk was halal? She knew it was halal. She knew it wasn’t haram, and even if it was, she knew if she said a prayer over the milk it would be allowed.
    No, this muslim was practicing a form of social violence toward the girl serving the food.
    Did the girl feel threatened?
    I’ll bet she did – one complaint from the muslim family and her job was in jeopardy.
    The question was a threat and that’s exactly what it was meant to be.
    Islam has been behaving in this way for centuries and it is very effective against Christians until we strike back. Then they can play the victim card.
    Look at the Rohingyas – they were happily murdering their neighbours, until the neighbours hit back. Now they are playing the victim card, and the media is treating the Rohingya people as victims, but they brought it on themselves.
    Why do you think the Palestinians were booted out of Jordan?
    Why are they refused sanctuary in other Arab nations?
    Because even their coreligionists know just what vile and treacherous swine they are.
    Where have you been for the last 1400 years?

  6. rickw

    “In the battle there was a desperate determination to leave no work for the hangman or to run the risk of the murderers of peaceful citizens being allowed to escape. It was not a long battle. The attacking party was constantly being reinforced by eager men who arrived in any vehicle they could obtain or on foot. At just about one o’clock a rush took place to the Turks’ stronghold and they were found lying on the ground behind their shelter. Both had many wounds. One was dead, the other expired later in hospital. They were in the dress of their people, with turbans on their heads. The police took charge of the bodies.”

    In Australia’s glorious past, the main job of the police was to pick up bodies, justice having being delivered by average Joe. Even at this time there seems to have been quite a distrust in the Judiciary’s ability to get it right.

  7. C.L.

    LOL:

    Firm Behind ‘Fearless Girl’ Statue Underpaid Women.

    The firm that commissioned the popular “Fearless Girl” statue in New York’s financial district has agreed to pay $5 million, mostly to settle claims that it discriminated against 305 top female employees by paying them less than men in the same positions.

    In the agreement, officials at the United States Department of Labor also allege that the firm, State Street Corporation, discriminated against 15 of its black vice presidents by paying them less than white employees in the same positions.

    Via James Wood, Twitter king.

  8. Myrddin Seren

    Mr Rudd must go to Oxford. Oxford won’t come to Mr Rudd.

    That will shortly be The Hon. Dr K. Rudd – former Prime Minister.

    A fact that Kevni will no doubt remind us all of ad nauseum.

    He probably has a ‘research assistant’ banging out his summa cum laude thesis right now.

  9. C.L.

    James Woods celebrating 900,000 Twitter followers.

  10. Perfidious Albino

    We can only hope that the deceit will become widely apparent once the inquisitions of traditionalists begin…

  11. There doesn’t seem to be a single Australian accent …

    With government departments, I’ve adopted the following opening line:

    “Sorry cobber, I can’t get yer lingo. You got someone there that speaks strayan?

    Then I have been transferred to a native english speaker. So far.

  12. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The discussion was about having empathy for the shooter’s brother.
    It’s a little difficult when he’s obviously a fruitcake from a nest of cuckoos and showed scant empathy for the the hundreds of victims in the US’s worst massacre.

    Fair enough, Egg. But the discussion also veered towards growing old and sad about it.
    And here we all are, another day, another thread. What’s not to like?
    Those Chimes of Midnight reflections on the Cat then turn over into positive vibes from others.

    Interesting piece in the Oz this morning on ‘denialism’, not the usual climate change imprecation, but about the recall of youth and a belief that times were better then, and that all is going to hell in a handbasket now, including oneself. The author suggests “we are wired to find others like ourselves and do what they do” and relates it to a zeitgeist that is internet driven with regard to mass shootings. A bit of a thin premise though. His remedy is less screen time and more human touch and real human face seeing, and I can’t disagree there. Reaching out to other people in cyberspace has its limits and also its dangers.

  13. srr

    Details Unsealed: 2016 Feds Thwarted ISIS Inspired Plot Against Targets in New York City…
    Posted on October 6, 2017 by sundance

    A Canadian Jihadist, a U.S. Pakistani extremist, and an Islamic Filipino money-man walk into Times Square…

    (Via NBC) Authorities have cuffed three men in connection with an alleged ISIS-inspired plot to target concerts, landmarks and crowded subways in New York City in 2016, federal prosecutors announced Friday afternoon.

    Three men — Abdulrahman El Bahnasawy, a 19-year-old Canadian citizen; Talha Haroon, a 19-year-old U.S. citizen based in Pakistan; and Russell Salic, a 37-year-old Philippines citizen — were all arrested on terror-related charges in the alleged plot that would have targeted New York City during the Islamic holy month of Ramadan in 2016, according to Acting U.S. Attorney Joon H. Kim.

    El Bahnasawy was detained on May 21, 2016, after he traveled to Cranford, New Jersey, to carry out the attacks; he has since pleaded guilty to multiple terrorism offenses. Haroon had allegedly made plans to travel to New York to join El Bahnasawy and was arrested in Pakistan. Salic, who allegedly wired money to the U.S. to fund the attack, was arrested in his home country.

    Continue reading →
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/10/06/details-unsealed-2016-feds-thwarted-isis-inspired-plot-against-targets-in-new-york-city/

  14. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Then I have been transferred to a native english speaker. So far.

    Stop it. You’ll be giving Tim Southpossumwhatever ideas about a new TV ad against white males.

  15. Tom

    Winxocracy: benevolent dictatorship of the turf.

  16. Top Ender

    The Australian has published a front page article about the Light Horse in WWI, focussing mainly on their famous charge.

    Throughout the unit is referred to as the “Lighthorse”.

    Journalist and sub-editors too stupid to visit the AWM website.

  17. calli

    Bother. Just fell out of a minivan at Angkor. Nursing bruises, cuts and ego. It was pouring, I was impatient and slipped – bottom first into a mud puddle! Sadly my shin clipped the sharp edge of the door on the way down.

    Fortunately, the Beloved got the Lara Croft shot of me * in front of the fig festooned door before disaster struck.

    * will need extensive Photoshopping.

  18. Top Ender

    According to this bio, the Krudd has a bachelor’s degree only.

    He would need to do Honours at least – preferably a Masters – before commencing a PhD.

    Doubtless he thinks he can bypass the normal requirements due to his fame.

    What an insufferable little man he is.

  19. rickw

    Looks like Borg Warner in Albury are liquidating all their assets. With over 100 CNC machinetools for sale, very likely the Indians will be here to pick up a bargain. The de-industrialisation continues apace!

  20. James Woods is an absolute gentlemen.

  21. zyconoclast

    The Australian has published a front page article about the Light Horse in WWI, focussing mainly on their famous charge.
    Throughout the unit is referred to as the “Lighthorse”.

    Lighthorse? Could be talking about this.

  22. The de-industrialisation continues apace!

    Eases the pressure of the electricity grid.

  23. rickw

    Journalist and sub-editors too stupid to visit the AWM website.

    Do they know what the AWM is? Pretty sad that they can’t even use google effectively.

  24. calli

    James Woods is an absolute gentlemen.

    I confess to being a tiny bit smitten by him. Brains, wit and politics.

  25. calli

    And going against the tide of Hollywood herded stupidity.

  26. A EUROPE WE CAN BELIEVE IN

    I have only skimmed this statment, but the names attached to this, Brague, Scruton, Spaemann, among others, give me great confidence.

  27. srr

    Details Unsealed: 2016 Feds Thwarted ISIS Inspired Plot Against Targets in New York City…
    Posted on October 6, 2017 by sundance

    A Canadian Jihadist, a U.S. Pakistani extremist, and an Islamic Filipino money-man walk into Times Square…

    Continue reading →
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/10/06/details-unsealed-2016-feds-thwarted-isis-inspired-plot-against-targets-in-new-york-city/

    Rock Knutne says:
    October 6, 2017 at 10:53 pm

    Pretty interesting comment from Our President about “the storm”.

    Maybe the ‘Big Ugly’ is about to begin.

  28. Mother Lode

    One of my friends is interested in learning more about the stock market. She was wondering where she would be able to get an introductory grounding.

    Books to read, websites to follow and fora to talk to people – if any or all of these exist as useful means.

    Any thoughts?

  29. rickw

    I think I need to start behaving like a muslim, hour #3 in emergency just rolled over.

  30. hour #3 in emergency just rolled over.

    Dial 000 and ask for an ambulance.

  31. curious george

    I think I need to start behaving like a muslim, hour #3 in emergency just rolled over.

    I lasted 3.5 hours before I was forced to go the muzzie route. It did work.

    ps. I went back the following day and apologised for my behaviour. I owe her some flowers.

  32. Senile Old Guy

    According to this bio, the Krudd has a bachelor’s degree only.

    He would need to do Honours at least – preferably a Masters – before commencing a PhD.

    He would need to do Honours and get a 1st or 2A. But people with 2A would only get in if places available.

  33. Gab

    Rickw, tell them you’re having difficulty breathing and a tightness in the chest. Sorry to hear you’re in ED.

  34. rickw

    Dial 000 and ask for an ambulance.

    Yeah, might be an idea! Missus crook, GP insistant that she went to emergency. Almost endless cavalcade of the third worlds finest getting triaged in front.

  35. Gab

    Okay, tell the missus to say she has difficulty breathing and she should be admitted quickly.

  36. stackja

    calli
    #2517148, posted on October 7, 2017 at 3:32 pm
    And going against the tide of Hollywood herded stupidity.

    Like Ward Bond?

  37. rickw

    Okay, tell the missus to say she has difficulty breathing and she should be admitted quickly.

    Progress without having to resort to anything dramatic!

  38. egg_

    Reaching out to other people in cyberspace has its limits and also its dangers.

    My message was in the context of toughen the fvck up/suck it up – we all have our crosses to bear.
    One can be empathetic with Eric Paddock, rather than sympathetic.

  39. egg_

    The Hon. Dr K. Rudd

    Well he was known as ‘Dr Death’ in Qld ‘elf, an honorary title.

  40. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Bother. Just fell out of a minivan at Angkor. Nursing bruises, cuts and ego. It was pouring, I was impatient and slipped – bottom first into a mud puddle! Sadly my shin clipped the sharp edge of the door on the way down.

    Commiserations, Calli. Make sure you keep applying Savlon or equivalent, you don’t want a tropical ulcer to develop. My last four trips have resulted in injuries: my equivalent, says Hairy, of not looking around me when I am doing something at home and throwing wine on the good carpets once again. As in last night. I hope the fall doesn’t halt your trip in any way and that appropriate photographic evidence gets photoshoped.

    My injuries:
    Greece – falling down an unexpected open drain hole left by a plumber in my friend’s garden. Right leg almost broken and very badly stripped of flesh over the shinbone. Took months to heal properly and got badly infected as cellulitis, requiring antibiotics at home.
    Banff, Canada – near-blisters from snowshoe boots and long trek; didn’t complain once, kudos.
    Kimberley, Australia – treading on an unstable rock during difficult climb up Emma Gorge at El Questro Station; extensive bruising all down left side, with open abrasions on left hand, arm, hip and leg. Mended up quite well after a few days, although obvious to all at swimming holes that I’d had some grief.
    Aitupaki, Cook Islands – raced up a steep gravel road ascent to see the view of the whole island and reef and skidded on gravel on way down; fell heavily on btm and right hip bone, climbed back up into 4WD and suffered in silence, ashamed to admit that the fall had hurt. Sore for about four days after.

    I’ve found that enthusiasim tends to come before a fall. Must curb mine. 🙂

  41. Fergus

    Most Germans are wary of anything that smacks of nationalism given their Nazi history but the concept of “Heimat”(homeland) is enjoying a renaissance driven by rising anxiety about migration and globalization. President Frank-Walter Steinmeier used the resonant word 18 times in marking the 27th anniversary of German reunification Tuesday, saying the nation needed honest dialogue about immigration after taking in over 1 million migrants since 2015.
    https://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/World/2017/Oct-07/421788-globalization-migration-fears-reawaken-germans-interest-in-heimat.ashx

  42. Dr Faustus

    “Sorry cobber, I can’t get yer lingo. You got someone there that speaks strayan?

    Then I have been transferred to a native english speaker. So far.

    In the very near future, your voiceprint will be matched instantly to the Federal Government voice authentication database and you will shortly after be visited by the authorities for a counselling session, at your home address – at 3:00am.

  43. Fat Tony

    cuckoo
    #2517003, posted on October 7, 2017 at 12:31 pm

    He’s due back in front of the courts in November, and says he’ll be calling both Gilliard and Wilson as witnesses.

    There are three things I want: world peace, a truly streak-free window cleaner, and a cure for male pattern baldness.

    You’re in luck with one at least – the streak-free window cleaner.

    Some one here suggested white vinegar (undiluted) in a spray bottle and wiping with a micro-fibre cloth.
    It actually works (and there’s no vinegar smell afterwards).

  44. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Sympathies Calli,

    Just recalling your broken foot on one of your travels too, Notafan. When you kept telling us how swollen it was getting we were all becoming more and more concerned and glad you finally saw a doc about it.

    Just remembered I got very sick on our cruise around the Horn, there was a very bad cough going round that filled up the medical consulting rooms daily. I recall lying one morning stretched out over three seats waiting for the doc, and more and more people arrived so I had to sit up again, feeling so ill. Got antibiotics and resolved never to travel without them again. The perils of travel.

  45. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    #2517171, posted on October 7, 2017 at 4:02 pm

    Bother. Just fell out of a minivan at Angkor. Nursing bruises, cuts and ego. It was pouring, I was impatient and slipped – bottom first into a mud puddle! Sadly my shin clipped the sharp edge of the door on the way down.

    Savlon may not be enough. If you see an infection developing get some amoxylin or better, quick. Those bushtracks probably have buffalo droppings in the mix, if its close to town they could be tainted by dog droppings, If you get a staph or strep infection they are going to have to casevac you out on a chopper.

    Always carry a couple of doses of antibiotics if trekking far from civilisation. Throw them away afterwards because the heat will ruin them after a couple of weeks in the bush.

  46. C.L.

    Are Black Caviar and Winx freaks or are Australian horses declining in quality?
    Or both?
    How does an entire field finish 8 to 15 lengths behind the winner in a Group 1 at Flemington?

  47. Infidel Tiger

    BC and Winx are freaks but the reticence of other trainers to take them on is piss poor.

    The times they both run show they would have towelled up horses from any era.

  48. marcus classis

    C.L.
    #2517041, posted on October 7, 2017 at 1:11 pm
    Are Melania’s boobs real?

    What a good question!

    By the looks, yes. Link is to a GQ photoshoot 15 years back. very close to being SFW.

    Link

  49. Delta A

    Some one here suggested white vinegar (undiluted) in a spray bottle and wiping with a micro-fibre cloth.

    I think it was Gab, and I thank her most heartily. Just finished the windows this morning and they look great. ( I didn’t have a micro-fibre cloth but found that paper towels worked very well.)

  50. Makka

    Thanks for sleuthing those out, marcus. It’s quite a set and yes I agree- they look real. Very and nicely real.

  51. Fat Tony

    Delta A
    #2517183, posted on October 7, 2017 at 4:27 pm

    Some one here suggested white vinegar (undiluted) in a spray bottle and wiping with a micro-fibre cloth.

    I think it was Gab, and I thank her most heartily. Just finished the windows this morning and they look great. ( I didn’t have a micro-fibre cloth but found that paper towels worked very well.)

    Thanks to Gab then….for the first time in my life, i actually keep my car windows clean – using vinegar after i wash the car and let it dry. It cleans the chrome bits as well.

    A week ago, someone else suggested the science fiction series “Expanse” on Netflix. It is excellent – I’m halfway through Season 2 now.

  52. Fat Tony

    I may have missed it, but is Dot posting under the name of Joe now?

  53. Diogenes

    Thanks for sleuthing those out, marcus. It’s quite a set and yes I agree- they look real. Very and nicely real.

    Not sure. have a closer look at the lastish one where she is in the cockpit wearing that silver mask & glass. They don’t look the right shape and sit right if they were real – The one where she is on the wing, they also don’t look right but that could be the bra.

  54. Gab

    for the first time in my life, i actually keep my car windows clean

    oooh, I didn’t think of that! Will try it.

    I was sooooooo excited when the vinegar on windows worked! So quick too. And yes, cheap paper towels also work if you don’t have a microfibre cloth.

    Now let me tell you about keeping your clothes cleaner longer while keeping the clothes fibres in great shape for longer while cutting down on washing pdr/liquid and softener cost.

    Top loaders: 1/4 the usual amount of washing pdr/liq, add 2 tblsp of soda bicarb. In the final rinse add 2 tblsp of white vinegar – no need for fabric softener. And no, your clothes don’t smell of vinegar.

    Front loaders: same as above but use 1/8 detergent.

    Also keeps the washing machine free of any build up or musty/mouldy smell.

    H/T Shannon Lush.

  55. Geriatric Mayfly

    Vinegar futures looking very promising.

  56. zyconoclast

    Fergus
    #2517174, posted on October 7, 2017 at 4:11 pm

    Fergus
    I notice you post quite a few items from the Daily Star. Is it the quality of their reporting or is there something local that interests you?

  57. Boambee John

    Fat Tony
    #2517186, posted on October 7, 2017 at 4:35 pm
    I may have missed it, but is Dot posting under the name of Joe now?

    I wondered that too.

  58. OneWorldGovernment

    overburdened
    #2517117, posted on October 7, 2017 at 2:59 pm

    Have they cut off COAL fired power to the ACT yet?

  59. zyconoclast

    From the USA
    The Truant Teacher Problem
    Collective bargaining agreements allow traditional public school teachers to “get sick” too often.

    It’s hardly a secret that many teachers take advantage of the allowable sick days that are part of a typical union collective bargaining agreement (CBA). All teachers use sick days legitimately at some point, but many (including yours truly, on occasion) have been known to call in sick when perfectly healthy. My middle school was typical, where teachers invariably got “sick” much more often on Mondays and Fridays. And some would come down with a bad case of the flu at strategic times—like the three days before the four-day Thanksgiving weekend, giving them a ten-day vacation with pay.

    But now, using data from the U.S. Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights, a Fordham Institute study released in September demonstrates the full extent of the absentee problem. On average, teachers miss about eight school days a year due to sick and personal leave, while the average U.S. worker takes only about three and a half sick days per annum. Worse, the study shows that 28.3 percent of teachers in traditional public schools are chronically absent—defined as missing more than 10 days of school per year because of illness or personal reasons. In charter schools—most of which are not unionized—the corresponding rate is just 10.3 percent. But even within the charter sector, the study reveals a glaring disparity: teachers in unionized charters are almost twice as likely to be chronically absent as their colleagues in non-unionized charters—17.9 percent to 9.1 percent.

    More important, the study’s author, David Griffith, suggests a direct link between teacher attendance and student achievement. He writes, “There are roughly 100,000 public schools in the United States, with over 3 million public school teachers and at least 50 million students. So every year, at least 800,000 teachers in the U.S. are chronically absent, meaning they miss about 9 million days of school between them, resulting in roughly 1 billion instances in which a kid comes to class to find that his or her time is, more often than not, being wasted.”

    Of course, when the regular teacher calls in sick, the schools arrange for a substitute. Some subs are excellent, but they’re in high demand, and the chances are slim that one of them will get assigned to your child’s classroom. All too often, a sub can’t be found or doesn’t show up. If they do make it to the classroom, they often can’t control the class, or they have their own agenda for the day.

    This study is yet another in a growing list that shows CBAs are harmful to students. In 2015, researchers Michael Lovenheim and Alexander Willen found that laws requiring school districts to engage in the collective bargaining process with teachers’ unions lead students to be less successful in life. In 2009, Stanford researcher Caroline Hoxby detailed in practical terms how CBAs stifle flexibility in determining the best slot for a teacher at a given school and deny the opportunity to get rid of underperformers—rigidity being the hallmark of labor contracts. In 2007, Stanford researcher Terry Moe found that CBAs appear to have a strongly negative impact in larger school districts, but seem to have no effect in smaller ones, except possibly “for African-American students—which is important indeed if true.”

    Some observers have disputed the impact that CBAs have on chronic teacher absences. National Council on Teacher Quality president Kate Walsh claims that school culture explains the disparity. She points to discrepancies in teacher-absence rates between cities. For example, more than 30 percent of traditional public school teachers miss more than 10 days in unionized Chicago, while in San Francisco, also unionized, only 10 percent hit that mark. Walsh claims, “The difference is there’s a cultural expectation you show up.” School culture may have the power to trump CBAs, but the much more common phenomenon is that CBAs set the culture of the schools.

    Not surprisingly, union leaders are damning the report and its origins. Doug Pratt, spokesman for the Michigan Education Association, questions the findings because of Fordham’s support of charter schools, reminding us to “Consider the source.” Mark Jewell, president of the N.C. Association of Educators suggests that “Fordham is a biased organization that is driven by an anti-student agenda with anti-public education funders.” American Federation of Teachers president Randi Weingarten groused, “The reality is that charter schools need better (teacher) leave policies, not worse ones, a fact ignored by Fordham.” She then pooh-poohed the data, suggesting that the study should have examined the “root causes” of absenteeism. “Teachers, most of whom are women, face unique stressors, including caring for families and working beyond the school day,” she said, though she did not address the fact that women who teach in charters seem to manage their “unique stressors” considerably better than their counterparts in traditional public schools.

    When kids are absent too much, their parents can expect a knock on the door from a truant officer, or, as they are now euphemistically called, “Pupil Services and Attendance Counselors.” The government worker will try to find out why the child is not in school. But when teachers have excessive absences, parents and kids can’t go knocking on their door. Teachers still receive full pay and benefits for the days that they miss. Unlike parents and children, teachers have a CBA to fall back on.

  60. Now let me tell you about keeping your clothes cleaner longer while keeping the clothes fibres in great shape for longer while cutting down on washing pdr/liquid and softener cost.

    I’ll give it a try tomorrow and let you know.

  61. Eyrie

    Fat Tony, in the second series “The Expanse” turns into SJW sludge in some places near the end.
    I was ready to push Naoimi out the airlock without a vac suit. However in good SJW fashion she does manage to get innocent people killed and risks the safety of a ship.
    It is pretty unrelentingly grim. “A little bit like “Firefly” but without the humour.

  62. Bruce in WA

    Comment taken from the “Take Five” section in today’s West Australian magazine by some (unheard of) chanteuse named Scarlett Stevens from indie group San Cisco:

    I will … look forward to the day that there is marriage equality in this country and two people can come together as one, irrelevant of their sexuality [sic].

    Editors? Subbies? Bueller? Anyone?

  63. Fat Tony

    Boambee John
    #2517194, posted on October 7, 2017 at 4:57 pm

    Fat Tony
    #2517186, posted on October 7, 2017 at 4:35 pm
    I may have missed it, but is Dot posting under the name of Joe now?

    I wondered that too.

    The most obvious clue is “Sortition”. Plus same writing style.

  64. Uh oh, I hear the stampede of baby powder buyers heading towards the shelves stocking vinegar.

  65. Fat Tony

    Gab – thanks for that – I’ll give the clothes washing a shot too.

    White vinegar is good for bee stings, green ant bites, jellyfish stings, chips…….

  66. Fisky

    As the resident expert in troll-watching at the Cat, I am highly skeptical that Dot is Joe.

  67. Fisky

    For example, Joe wrote this last month:

    Joe
    #2493816, posted on September 10, 2017 at 2:00 pm

    max:

    hey Joe you have Luddite mentality.

    the belief that machinery makes workers poorer.

    No I don’t. I can’t wait for the robots to take over all labour. However, I recognise that not everyone is capable of being a knowledge worker and that we as a society have a responsibility to provide for them as much as we do for the knowledge workers.

    On multiple levels, that directly refutes Dot’s ideology!

  68. Fat Tony

    Eyrie
    #2517199, posted on October 7, 2017 at 5:02 pm
    Fat Tony, in the second series “The Expanse” turns into SJW sludge in some places near the end.

    That’s a bit sad – it’s been quite good so far. I think it was you who recommended it – so thanks for that.

  69. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From C.L. at 12:39 pm:

    “Melania’s top is a little immodest and unbecoming for a First Lady.
    I like those figure-hugging high skirts, though. They’re really attractive.”

    She’s covered from head to toe for Pete’s sake! Nah – composed, serene, oozing class and style … and, I’ll warrant, unfashionably proud of her country.

    It’s difficult to recognise, I’m sure, after a parade of Target synthetic pants suits containing things which look like robbers’ dogs; that hulking gorilla who lumbered her way, surly and snarling, through eight years of vacations paid for by a country of which she was not proud (until the chimp was nominated as president and she became queen, that is); and Australia’s appalling offering of uniform flabby guts and big fat arkses, absent education or manners.

    Further, her life does not limit her to keeping company with a particular class, such as the Washington trough, nor is she beholden by party to mix only with their kind. One imagines she is a sight more intelligent, interesting, interested, engaging and worldly as a consequence. She shines.

  70. Delta A

    It cleans the chrome bits as well

    …and the glossy black bathroom tiles.

  71. Fat Tony

    Fisky
    #2517206, posted on October 7, 2017 at 5:10 pm

    For example, Joe wrote this last month:
    On multiple levels, that directly refutes Dot’s ideology!

    Maybe he had a Road to Damascus moment and is too proud to admit it as Dot.

    Who else here runs the Sortition line – and the writing style is very similar.

  72. Fisky

    Dot HATES, repeat HATES robots because they completely render immigration and open borders unnecessary! Furthermore, he believes that all labour is homogeneous, so importing 1 million Muslims per year is fine, they’ll all be engineers etc.

  73. Fisky

    Fat Tony, I’ve seen Joe successfully use sarcasm and irony, which autistic people tend to struggle with. No way he’s Dot.

  74. Fisky

    Since when did Dot ever attempt to explain how policy interacts with society, ffs??? He doesn’t have a clue about that. It’s cognitive.

  75. Fat Tony

    Delta A
    #2517210, posted on October 7, 2017 at 5:15 pm

    It cleans the chrome bits as well

    …and the glossy black bathroom tiles.

    Good for the shower screen glass and tiles. And a lot cheaper than the fancy stuff that doesn’t work.

  76. Fat Tony

    Fisky – fair enough and most likely correct. But:
    Has Dot been around lately?
    When did Joe show up?
    Anyone else push sortition?

  77. Fisky

    No wonder the media are dropping this story like a hot potato! They can sense which way it’s likely to go.

    BREAKING: LAS VEGAS GUNMAN TRAVELED TO MIDDLE EAST

  78. Fisky

    When did Joe show up?

    Since earlier this year at least.

  79. notafan

    Six or seven hours on shore with a cruise crowd, definitely converted.

  80. Bruce of Newcastle

    “Schadenfreude” sounds like some kind of German cuisine involving sauerkraut.

    San Franciscans Pissed To Learn Their Liberal Policies Caused A Wave Of Restaurant Failures

    In a note that we’ll file away under the definition of ‘irony’, Bloomberg wrote today that the fun-loving, free-spirited socialists of San Francisco are suddenly really pissed off that their liberal economic policies have resulted in a wave of restaurant failures, making it nearly impossible to find good food at an ‘affordable’ price.

    We would be pissed too…who could have guessed that artificially raising wages well above market supported rates would result in business failures?

    So green progressives move to San Francisco for the café culture and free Wifi. They are outrageously outraged by the inequalidee of da minimum wage. So they force the city to increase the minimum wage. Suddenly there are fewer cafés to have café culture in and the Wifi’s not working. It’s a mystery!

  81. Cold-Hands

    BREAKING: LAS VEGAS GUNMAN TRAVELED TO MIDDLE EAST

    Going on a cruise dropping in to ports in Jordan & UAE is not quite the same as attending a madrassa… It’s still not a smoking gun.
    I still want to know what the gunman videoed himself doing & whom he sent it to. ISIS has tripled down on claiming him. I won’t be surprised if they eventually release his video testament.

  82. Fisky

    BTW – I don’t have a theory for who this guy is and why he killed people. It’s just funny to watch the narrative change from day to day. The Left have obviously decided they don’t want a bar of this story, so we really ought to dig further and see what comes up.

  83. Boambee John

    Fat Tony at 1706

    The suggestion of sortition (without using the word) was what struck me.

  84. egg_

    When did Joe show up?

    Since earlier this year at least.

    I just had him pegged as one of Grig’s menagerie.

  85. Delta A

    “Schadenfreude” sounds like some kind of German cuisine involving sauerkraut.

    Great post! Another case of the luvvies messing in their nests.

    (Btw, I’m cooking my secret sauerkraut sensation with slow cooked bacon hocks tonight. The smell is amazing.)

  86. Boambee John

    Fat Tony and Fisky

    I am not expert in the styles of individual posters, but the push for sortition doesn’t come very often from others.

  87. Oh come on

    I won’t be surprised if they eventually release his video testament.

    I will be. This ain’t ISIS. Where’s the Islamic propaganda from the perp? It makes no sense to do what he did for the 72 dates and keep his motive a secret.

  88. egg_

    “Schadenfreude” sounds like some kind of German cuisine involving sauerkraut.

    Being Oktoberfest n all.

  89. Joe

    I may have missed it, but is Dot posting under the name of Joe now?

    Well, yes, yes I am ;).

    And just for the humour impaired: DOT and I have but one thing in common, our disdain for “democracy” as it is currently practiced and the possibility the sortition might provide an answer.

  90. Zatara

    I stumbled onto some time-wasting but funny as hell youtubes tonight. Jacking up phone and e-mail scammers. My favorites are the ones where the counter-hackers wipe out the computers of “microsoft support” scammers.

    Child wipes out scammer computer

    Hacking into the phone scammers conference call system

    The FBI “we have money for you” scam

  91. Gab

    Good for the shower screen glass and tiles.

    Absolutely.

    And to keep your toilet cleaner longer, drop a denture tablet in the cistern once a week.

  92. srr

    Fallout 3 (Galaxy News Radio)
    MONEILL83
    Dec 18, 2013
    My own fan made Galaxy News Radio soundtrack, from the game “Fallout 3”, complete with Three Dog’s voiceover clips following the main quest, plus all the generic quotes heard throughout the broadcast and all four episodes of “The Adventures of Herbert ‘Daring’ Dashwood”.

  93. The things you learn.
    The Oz has an article on Helen Dale/Demidenko/Darville.
    She has written a new book.
    It will be launched by David Leyonhjelm.
    Helen worked for David 2014-2016.

    He is a trusting soul.

  94. Tel

    We should call the one hour time shift “Daylight Superannuation” because we have been saving for years but no one expects to get anything back out of it.

  95. egg_

    I don’t have a theory for who this guy is and why he killed people.

    It probably died with him.

    Sounds like he was becoming like his old man in his old age:

    Danley was sympathetic to his brother’s allergy-driven quirks, like wearing gloves to prevent rashes from contact with the residue from cleaning chemicals. He was also unable to renew his pilot’s license because he was allergic to pills needed to reduce his blood pressure.

    “The reason Marilou looks so plain in that picture they keep posting of her is because for him she would not wear perfumes or hair sprays or anything with scents in it because it affected him,” Eric said.

    But employees at the Starbucks inside Reno’s Virgin River Casino had a different view of their relationship. Esperanza Mendoza, the store’s supervisor, told the L.A. Times that employees winced whenever they came into the store because Paddock would frequently berate Danley.

    “He would glare down at her and say — with a mean attitude — ‘You don’t need my casino card for this. I’m paying for your drink, just like I’m paying for you.’ Then she would softly say, ‘okay’ and step back behind him. He was so rude to her in front of us.”

  96. Going on a cruise dropping in to ports in Jordan & UAE is not quite the same as attending a madrassa… It’s still not a smoking gun.

    It’s not even a soggy dog’s breakfast. If Mrs MV and I were rolling in dosh, we would spend a significant amount of our time on cruise ships in the Mediterranean – especially smaller, boutique ones. This would be doubly so if we made a living laundering money, as I suspect Paddock did.

  97. Geriatric Mayfly

    notafan#
    Six or seven hours on shore with a cruise crowd, definitely converted.

    From your previous peregrinations I gather you travel solo. How to you propose to escape the dreaded twin share proviso. Are you prepared to share with an unknown, or pay the full price for one? Twin share and single supplement are just crosses to bear for those travelling solo.

  98. notafan

    GM

    I’m not planning to go cruising, on land or sea, any time.

    Not my thing.

  99. Delta A

    peregrinations

    Well, thank you, GM. I have always thought – and been told by others – that I am a wordaholic. But I admit, I’ve never come across that one before.

    Had to Google it. O, the shame!

  100. Geriatric Mayfly

    Six or seven hours on shore with a cruise crowd, definitely converted.

    Did I misinterpret this?

  101. I will be. This ain’t ISIS. Where’s the Islamic propaganda from the perp? It makes no sense to do what he did for the 72 dates and keep his motive a secret.

    Factchecck = True, OCO.

    No Koran, no prayer sheet, no prayer mat, no ISIS or Jihad flag, no history of attendance at a mosque, no public proclamation of devotion (eg Facebook page), not even an incriminating browsing history.

    Nil. Nothing. Nada. Zip.
    The Islam “connection” is a furphy.

  102. Gab

    Had to Google it. O, the shame!

    Better than not googling it and remaining forever ignorant of what the word means, how to use it and its pronunciation.

    I had to google it too. 😀

  103. Zatara

    Freaking classic. Seriously, if you scrolled past the last ones I posted watch this one.

    Flipping the script on IRS scammers.

  104. notafan

    I think so GM.

    Was referring to Mr Paddock.

  105. Shy Ted

    A few drops of vinegar in your ear before or after you go swimming. Athletes foot or cracked heels? Vinegar. Dirty cups and teapots etc -vinegar and bicarb. Non-specific aches and pains? A couple of drops of cider vinegar 3 times a day. Don’t like your date? Give her a glass of vinegar.

  106. Gab

    Yeah, nah, I’m not going to be putting vinegar into my ears.

  107. John Constantine

    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/clean-energy-finance-corporation-lobbying-for-woodfired-power-to-replace-coal-20170621-gwvn2f.html

    Their julia slush-lard summoned this thing into being.

    The slush mentality always the first instinct.

    The julia slush-lard ruinables slush fund progressing Australian industry into the sort of future that can be run on wood fires.

  108. Nick

    Vinegar and bicarbonate of Soda are also great for areas where a dog has peed.

  109. Zatara

    Vinegar and bicarbonate of Soda are also great for areas where a dog has peed.

    And drinking a shot of unfiltered apple cider vinegar every morning is good for what ails ya. (yes, really)

  110. Baldrick

    Gab
    #2517189, posted on October 7, 2017 at 4:44 pm

    Gab, you’re a veritable font of helpful information. Cheers 🍻

  111. egg_

    Federal authorities caught up to Paddock a decade later, finding him living in Oregon and operating a bingo parlor and running various cons under the name Bruce Ericksen. After serving just one more year in prison, Paddock was released on parole. He began running other scams, which according to Slate included claiming to be the pastor of a nondenominational church. In 1987*, he was hit with civil racketeering charges in relation to his bingo parlor, and had to pay a $100,000 fine. It’s believed that he spent his remaining years in Texas, and died in 1998.

    *About the time of son Stephen’s ‘retirement’ – took over the family business?

  112. Gab

    Shannon Lush, Baldy. It’s all about the chemistry.

  113. John Constantine

    http://www.skynews.com.au/news/politics/federal/2017/07/02/bishop-made-a-taxpayer-funded-birthday-trip.html

    All together now:

    “That’s brilliant, julie bishop”

    Is the deplorable turnbull going to take the bus to Adelaide now?.

  114. Fisky

    Sweden: free apartments and jobs for returning ISIS fighters, war crimes trials for their opponents!

    STOCKHOLM (AP) – Swedish prosecutors have charged a Syrian asylum-seeker and a former fighter with Damascus’ government forces with war crimes on suspicion that he posed in front of dead or wounded combatants from the Islamic State group.

  115. Pete of Perth

    Soon Oz will be back to the start of the industrial revolution with water powered wheels.

  116. Baldrick

    Shannon Lush, Baldy. It’s all about the chemistry.

    Haha, has Shannon come up with a possum deterrent and vinegar?

  117. Gab

    Possum deterrent. 1 tblsp of camphor oil into 1 litre water and spray on areas where the possums venture. Or dissolve two mothballs in a litre of water and spray.

    It also works for keeping the birds away from my west facing front porch 🙂

  118. Nick

    Now you’ve got me thinking Balders, my backyard has basically become a bat and possum toilet lately .

  119. Myrddin Seren

    Zatara

    I stumbled onto some time-wasting but funny as hell youtubes tonight. Jacking up phone and e-mail scammers

    Hacking into the phone scammers conference call system

    Sure f**kin$ genius !

    Even better than walking in to their boiler room and going full metal Die Hard ! Use the enemy’s weapons against them.

    And the guy is like an unscripted Cartman. Quality entertainment.

    #Respect.

  120. Gab

    PS. Using commercial detergents on your shower tiles & glass actually damages the surfaces. If you have glass cancer, the cause is harsh detergents. Just wipe surfaces down with white vinegar as this cleans off the soap scum and epithelia and it’s good for hygiene.

    Also, spray white vinegar onto weeds when they’re small and the weeds die off.

  121. Atoms for Peace

    SFran in CA is well overdue for yuuuge Richter moment.
    My care factor will be zero

  122. Leo G

    Sounds like he was becoming like his old man in his old age…

    My impression of Paddock, from the limited information, is of a reserved, intelligent person steadily becoming more of a paranoid psychotic, possibly with an inherited susceptibility.

  123. Joe/Dot;
    You may have just started me thinking of Sortition as a viable alternative to Mob Rule.
    The only trouble I have is that with the Athenian model, the pool from which the elected was chosen, was by volunteer. How do we keep this pool free of the likes of Turnbull, Rudd, Shorten, Gillard?
    Who decides who goes in the pool?

  124. Tom

    Possum deterrent.

    Disgraceful anti-naturism.

    Poor little animules.

    Gab is a monster.

  125. Myrddin Seren

    And drinking a shot of unfiltered apple cider vinegar every morning is good for what ails ya. (yes, really)

    Yes.

    This one is recommended as the gun for helping gut health.

    /Spacechook on

    For calli –

    Both our tummies are far from cast iron. So we came back from our trip to Vietnam and Cambodia feeling well toxic.

    Started with the usual antibiotics from the quack.

    Thought we might still have something else going on – did some googling on parasites for whatever reason and started a course of this and Kyolic garlic three times a day.

    Once all that settled down, on to the apple cider vinegar and probiotics to get the ‘second brain’ in to better shape.

    Spacechook Off /

  126. Gab

    Also good as a stray Tom cat deterrent 😀

  127. candy

    My impression of Paddock, from the limited information, is of a reserved, intelligent person steadily becoming more of a paranoid psychotic, possibly with an inherited susceptibility.

    Still seems a big jump to the horrendous things he did, planned so meticulously. As well, a psychotic would be completely disorganised and noticeably insane to anyone around them, with auditory and visual hallucinations.

  128. Tom

    How long is since Hollywood set out to create popular entertainment? Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom is 33 years old, FFS! On Seven now. Great stuff!

  129. Atoms for Peace

    Breaking fake news. The Greens will eschew all security in Canberra and welcome all with open arms…

  130. Delta A

    Possum deterrent

    Alternatively, give the cute critters a little piece of apple and a big hug.

    🙂

  131. Gab

    Yeah, like I’m going to encourage the 20 or so possums invading my place to come closer to the house and poop everywhere.

  132. Atoms for Peace

    Delta..just mention welcome to country ceremonies and the possums clear out.

  133. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    top 250!!

  134. Geriatric Mayfly

    Vinegar and bicarbonate of Soda are also great for areas where a dog has peed.

    Really!! I have heard of manicured gardens, but are people now wiping down their trees and lawns with bi-carb and vinegar?

  135. Fat Tony

    Gab
    #2517256, posted on October 7, 2017 at 6:23 pm

    Yeah, nah, I’m not going to be putting vinegar into my ears.

    I have been prescribed a boric acid / metho mix for an ear infection.
    I might try vinegar instead – be a bit gentler….

  136. Delta A

    just mention welcome to country ceremonies and the possums clear out.

    So do I.

  137. Nick

    Really!! I have heard of manicured gardens, but are people now wiping down their trees and lawns with bi-carb and vinegar?

    Pavers GM, pavers. Hmm, but leaf wiping is worth a thought 😉

  138. I have been prescribed a boric acid / metho mix for an ear infection.
    I might try vinegar instead – be a bit gentler….

    3% Hydrogen Peroxide.
    Insert with an eye dropper.
    Flush with clean water (use a syringe) after 10 minutes.

  139. candy

    All that and it’s great as a salad dressing and on fish and chips.

  140. Delta A

    Yeah, like I’m going to encourage the 20 or so possums invading my place…

    You were very kind to me, Gab. I had expected a virtual spanking for pushing your possum buttons.

    🙂

  141. Leo G

    As well, a psychotic would be completely disorganised and noticeably insane to anyone around them, with auditory and visual hallucinations.

    Not necessarily. There are medical conditions where the sufferer retains almost normal reasoning but with odd patterns of memory impairment and dissociation. There are for example cases of cerebral beri beri where the susceptibility is inherited, where the symptoms vary greatly, and in particular where the symptoms are aggravated by drugs used to treat conditions like PTSD.

  142. Fisky

    I never understood how anyone found this show remotely funny –

    https://twitter.com/MrAlfredGarnett/status/916581008341905413

    Alf Garnett‏
    @MrAlfredGarnett
    Following
    More
    Without its huge laugh track, Friends plays very differently.

  143. Tel

    And drinking a shot of unfiltered apple cider vinegar every morning is good for what ails ya. (yes, really)

    I eat the sour cabbage (not sauerkraut shredded cabbage but whole pickled cabbage). It’s an Eastern European cure-all. That and anything alcoholic of course.

    I can recommend isopropyl alcohol for cleaning your ears, really dissolves the earwax very effectively and also dries up fast so you never get that annoying sound of water in your ear (I hate when that happens).

  144. candy

    There are for example cases of cerebral beri beri where the susceptibility is inherited, where the symptoms vary greatly, and in particular where the symptoms are aggravated by drugs used to treat conditions like PTSD.

    I guess the FBI would be in touch with the treating doctors, hospital visits, etc, to see a lead-up to such extra-ordinary mental illness. I kind of think there is a missing link we don’t know, where he felt killing up to hundreds of happy revellers at a concert was his life’s goal. Or he felt he was the devil or some kind of god taking retribution.

  145. Makka

    I can recommend isopropyl alcohol for cleaning your ears,

    An old diving trick to keep your ears in shape was spraying your cotton bud in Rexona and giving them a goodr wipe out regularly That was decades ago but. Rexona then had a good slug of alcohol in it.

  146. Atoms for Peace

    Middle ear infections and biofilms. Worth a look.

  147. Gab

    You people put some weird things in your ears. Maybe try covering your ears with condoms before you go swimming next time.

  148. marcus classis

    Makka
    #2517184, posted on October 7, 2017 at 4:31 pm
    Thanks for sleuthing those out, marcus. It’s quite a set and yes I agree- they look real. Very and nicely real.

    I think this is a general subject which deserves a great deal of research by every man.

    I think this is a specific subject which deserves a great deal of research by every man!

    🙂

  149. Leo G

    I kind of think there is a missing link we don’t know, …

    Yes, that is my view. I suggested one such plausible link in the absence of any direct evidence.
    I would be very surprised if the link is political or religious, or if it involved a conspiracy with dedicated terrorists or cultists.
    But I wouldn’t be surprised if there was an accomplice- possibly one who panicked during the attacks and shot the shooter with his own handgun.

  150. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    NATIONAL AFFAIRS
    Bob Hawke recruited to spruik Labor’s rural credentials
    12

    The Australian
    12:00AM October 7, 2017

    10
    Troy Bramston
    Senior writer
    Sydney
    @TroyBramston

    Labor will press Bob Hawke back into service as part of a campaign to win a slew of seats in rural and regional Australia at the next federal election.

    At the National Country Labor Forum to be held in Rockhampton today — which will be attended by Bill Shorten and state and federal Labor MPs — a video of the former prime minister will be shown endorsing Labor’s credentials in the regions.

    “People should always remember that the Australian Labor Party had its origins in the bush,” Mr Hawke says in the video.

    “The shearers’ strikes back in the 1890s and the formation of the Labor Party are very much connected with the Australian bush.

    “The country should always remember that, as distinct from any other political party, the Australian Labor Party is more rooted in regional Australia than any other.

    “I’m very pleased that modern Labor is stressing the importance of rural Australia,” he says.

    From the Oz. Hawkie could always tell rural Australians about how the Gilliard Government banned the live cattle trade with Indonesia, over film footage brought, and paid for by the Greens.

    Silly old bugger got the bit about the Labor Party being more rooted in regional Australia then any other, though.

  151. H B Bear

    Mavis back doing comedy I see. Probably can’t stand listening to Keating any longer while in the kneeling position.

  152. Gab

    Labor will press Bob Hawke back into service as part of a campaign to win a slew of seats in rural and regional Australia at the next federal election.

    LOL sure, they’ll force him back into the spotlight kicking and screaming that he doesn’t want to.

    Oh well, at least it explains his opening salvo of attacking Malcolm Fraser this week.

  153. Muddy

    U.S. and Nigerien Troops Ambushed in Niger.

    On October 4th, 3 U.S. Special Forces and 5 Nigerien soldiers were killed in an ambush while the U.S. Green berets was assisting Nigerien troops in counterterrorism training in southwest Niger.

    These are the first Americans to die in the country as a result of hostile fire since the U.S. Africa Command (AFRICOM) was deployed in Niger. The attack also wounded 2 U.S. soldiers and 8 Nigerien soldiers.

    During a joint patrol, U.S. and Nigerien troops fell into an ambush set by Islamic insurgents north of Niamey, near the border of Mali. Less than a dozen U.S. troops and more than 20 Nigerien troops were involved in the fighting. French helicopters responded to the attack by providing cover fire and evacuated the injured soldiers.

    No group has claimed responsibility for the attack, but U.S. officials believe al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb was involved. It is believed that the attackers came from Mali, where Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb is based.

    Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), Boko Haram, and Islamic State (IS) are all active in the area and have staged attacks in Niger before. AQIM mainly operates in Mali and has conducted cross-border raids in Niger. Boko Haram is based in Nigeria and has also staged several attacks in Niger near the Nigerian border.

    AQIM briefly took over most of northern Mali in 2012, with the aim of imposing Islamic law following an uprising by ethnic Tuareg rebels. This effort to take and hold territory was defeated following a French military intervention. Since 2016, AQIM has staged many attacks in the Sahel region of Africa which includes Mali and Niger.

    In 2007, the U.S. launched AFRICOM, its military command for Africa. There is a total of 800 U.S. troops currently on the ground in Niger. The U.S. military is there to provide training and assistance to the Nigerien Armed Forces to counter violent extremist organizations in the region. The U.S. mainly plays a supporting role in Niger, providing surveillance and training rather than conducting airstrikes or combat missions.

    Since 2013, U.S. drones have been used in Niamey for surveillance missions to track AQIM and Boko Haram. A drone base is being built by U.S. and French troops in Agadez, in order to conduct surveillance on Islamic State (IS) in Libya.

    Insurgent groups have taken advantage of African countries like Niger, a largely desert nation with borders that terrorists can easily traverse. While this was considered a low risk mission for the U.S., this attack highlights the inherent risk for U.S. troops operating in countries with an active Islamic insurgency.

  154. Stimpson J. Cat

    successfully use sarcasm and irony, which autistic people tend to struggle with.

    Is that right?
    Not all of us do.
    Some of us are proper f$cking geniuses at sarcasm.

  155. Stimpson J. Cat

    Fortunately, the Beloved got the Lara Croft shot of me * in front of the fig festooned door before disaster struck.

    Hope you are OK Calli.
    Lara Croft assets can make it hard to balance in the wet.

  156. Snoopy

    Hawkie could always tell rural Australians about how the Gilliard Government ruined Murray Basin agriculture, over film footage from ‘Two Men In A Tinnie’ brought, and paid for by Australian taxpayers.

  157. marcus classis

    Hmm.

    Efforts to obliterate traditional, religious-based morality with a morality of state worship have invariably been miserable failures; see Marxism. Government is everywhere and always power and coercion, and compliance with its dictates and strictures rests not on recognition of their moral worthiness, but on recognition of the costly and painful consequences of failure to do so.

    Devolution has pushed morality down to the smallest social unit, the individual. Morality is a product of choices and choices are a matter of thought. Individualized morality—like all human thought—shaped in the trial and error of environments and circumstances best furthers the organic adaptation necessary for survival of the human species. It is like the English common law, incrementally developed and changed in light of what works and what doesn’t.

    link

    He has a point.

    Which is rather worrying until you look at the case of the Albury farmer doing the morally correct thing in protecting his wife and himself with an unloaded .22 – and being punished for it by the state.

    The state is proving itself to be an immoral or even amoral agent. Which abrogates the social contract completely.

    Perhaps he is correct – you are on your own.

  158. Joe

    WS:

    You may have just started me thinking of Sortition as a viable alternative to Mob Rule.
    The only trouble I have is that with the Athenian model, the pool from which the elected was chosen, was by volunteer. How do we keep this pool free of the likes of Turnbull, Rudd, Shorten, Gillard?
    Who decides who goes in the pool?

    The Athenian model was a product of it’s times. Clearly, the new model is to have any position of power to be strictly limited in its scope – see prerogatives. Then it should be open to all to be selected. You want some criteria to prevent ridiculous selections – like a 5 year old.

    So my current thinking is the pool is all male citizens between the ages of 50 and 60. Those selected to hold office once only in their lifetime for 10 years. You get time to live life before having to serve. You also get the right to refuse to serve for no fault or penalty.

  159. calli

    Possum deterrent.

    Useful possum.

    Just got back from a hobble around Angkor Wat. Remarkable place. I promised the ashen faced driver I wouldn’t fall out of his minibus again. He has been careful to park up close to the kerb and grips my elbow as I ascend/descend awkwardly.

    Amazing what painkillers can do. But I wouldn’t miss it for the world.

  160. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    NATIONAL AFFAIRS
    Citizenship: take our word for it, Brandis tells High Court
    Attorney-General George Brandis says the High Court should take the word of MPs..

    The Australian
    12:00AM October 7, 2017
    25
    Greg Brown
    Journalist
    Canberra
    @gregbrown_TheOz

    Attorney-General George Brandis has argued that parliamentar­ians who are dual citizens should not be disqualified from parliament if they “honestly swear” they had no idea they could be citizens of a foreign country.

    With the High Court to decide on the eligibility of seven MPs next week — including Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Joyce and two government senators — lawyers for Senator Brandis argued that the “oath” of politicians should be accepted if they said they did not know they had an allegiance to ­another country.

    The government’s legal team, led by Solicitor-General Stephen Donaghue, argued that there should be an onus on proving parliamentarians were aware there was a “serious or sizeable prospect” they could be a dual citizen.

    “If there is material that contradicts such a claim, then the matter can be tested, as occurred in relation to Senator (Malcolm) Roberts,” lawyers for Senator Brandis wrote in a submission to the High Court, replying to arguments MPs should be disqualified.

    “Otherwise, the oath of the parliamentarian should be accepted, and no question of disqualification would arise, provided that reasonable steps were taken to renounce foreign citizenship within a reasonable time of the parliamentarian becoming aware of his or her status.”

    The government argues that Mr Joyce and Nationals senators Matt Canavan and Fiona Nash have not contravened section 44(i) of the Constitution because they did not know they were dual citizens.

    From the Oz. The George Brandis defence many become immortalized in Australian legal history. “I’m sorry, I had no idea that a bottle of hock, followed by a bottle of pinot noir, half a bottle of port and several double Scotches would put me over the legal limit. I honestly believed I was sober enough to drive.”

  161. calli

    Lara Croft assets can make it hard to balance in the wet.

    Can’t imagine anyone looking less like Lara Croft than me, hair sodden, flapping plastic poncho and sensible Frau Merkel sandals.

    If only I had Lara’s elastic bungees as I leapt from the bus. Agile! Snort.

  162. Tel

    Is that right?
    Not all of us do.
    Some of us are proper f$cking geniuses at sarcasm.

    The rules about how mental illness works get reinvented faster than the rule about whether you are supposed to eat eggs and bacon.

  163. Atoms for Peace

    Ignorance of the law is no excuse as I recall.

  164. Delta A

    Off topic, but always in the back of my mind: what – if anything – is our party-girl FM doing to secure the release of Dr Ken Elliot? This has been the biggest non-story of the past two years, with every aspect of the media united in their efforts to ignore it.

  165. Stimpson J. Cat

    If only I had Lara’s elastic bungees as I leapt from the bus. Agile! Snort.

    Now remember, just because Angelina brought a Cambodian child accessory doesn’t mean you have to buy one Calli.
    Don’t get sucked in.

  166. Bron

    It isn’t ignorance of the law… it is ignorance of the fact that one has inadvertently broken the law. Sounds sensible to me.

  167. Nick

    Off topic, but always in the back of my mind: what – if anything – is our party-girl FM doing to secure the release of Dr Ken Elliot? This has been the biggest non-story of the past two years, with every aspect of the media united in their efforts to ignore it.

    Perhaps if he was imprisoned within either the MCG or her sisters’ birthday cake, he may have a chance.

  168. Bruce in WA

    Lara Croft assets can make it hard to balance in the wet.

    Even Angelina jolie needed a helping hand … errr …. something

    kgb answers » Arts & Entertainment » Actors and Actresses »
    Were angelina jolies breasts padded in tomb raider?

    Yes, Angelina Jolie wore a padded bra to look like Lara.She is a size 36C and Lara Croft’s are a 36D.

  169. Atoms for Peace

    Bron. Still means one is screwed, or even slush funded…

  170. Boambee John

    Gab
    #2517308, posted on October 7, 2017 at 7:53 pm
    You people put some weird things in your ears. Maybe try covering your ears with condoms before you go swimming next time.

    Reminds me of the joke about the Irishman who wore condoms on his ears because he didn’t want to get hearing aids.

  171. candy

    Attorney-General George Brandis has argued that parliamentar­ians who are dual citizens should not be disqualified from parliament if they “honestly swear” they had no idea they could be citizens of a foreign country.

    If the other country involved in this dual citizenship issue was say Syria, Iran or Afghanistan, it would be a whole different story and George Brandis would not be able to argue for it. It’s only because the other nations concerned are “innocuous”, that he can get away with what he is saying and try to make it sound logical.

  172. Bruce in WA

    An interesting analysis. The source is, of course, not impartial, but raises points our MSM would never even hint at:

    The term “mass shooting”, has become more of an emotional prop used by the anti gun lobby, in order to sensationalise their cause. They are also quick to use these tragic events without regard and respect for the victims. If these people were serious about reducing the potential for harm to the public, they should be targeting the numerous causes of death that rate far higher than firearms.

    Basically dead is dead, regardless of how one dies, the end result is still the same; therefore, it is those causes of death with a greater potential to cause death that should be targeted first and foremost. But the anti gun lobby, politicians and media chose to cherry pick in order to suit their political, personal and financial agendas.

    The anti-gun proponents regularly try to perpetuate the myth that the 1996 Howard inspired NFA and resulting gun laws have somehow miraculously prevented further mass shootings,. In fact,since 1996, there have been 5 incidents that could be regarded as a mass shooting. They are:

    The Monash University shooting in 2002, where 2 were killed and 5 were injured, the Hectorville siege in 2011, where 3 were killed and 3 were injured, the Hunt family murders in 2014, where 5 died, the Lindt Cafe siege in 2014, where 3 were killed and 4 injured, and the Port Lincoln Wharf shooting/drowning/suicide in 2016 where 3 died; the 2 child victims were found to have been shot prior to the car being driven into the water. This is a total of 15 deaths and 12 injured, as a result of multiple shooting incidents.

    If we look at mass killings by other means for the same period we have:

    The Snowtown murders between 1992 and 1999, where 12 were killed, the Childers backpacker fire in 2000, where 15 died, the Black Saturday Churchill fire in 2009, where 15 died, the Lin family blunt instrument murders in 2009, where 5 died, the Quakers Hill Nursing home fire in 2011, where 11 died, the Cairns Child stabbings in 1014, where 8 died, the Home Hill stabbings in 2016, where 2 died and 1 was injured, the Sydney family gassing in 2016, where 4 died, and the Melbourne aged care attack in 2017, where 6 died and 30 were injured — a total of 73 deaths and 31 injured as a result of multiple killings.

    Now compare the figures: 15 dead and 12 injured as a result of a firearm being used; 73 dead and 31 injured as a result of other means. In all those incidents where means other than a firearm was used, there were no calls to ban or further regulate the objects used. In every case, the person and/or their ideology was, rightfully, targeted, but as soon as a firearm is used, there are immediate calls to restrict the very people that statistics show are NOT responsible — licensed shooters.

    SFFP QLD

    (Copy edited for clarity)

  173. Blade Runner 2049 – absolutely spectacular. Fork out for comfy seats if you’re going, it’s just shy of 3 hours. Didn’t want it to end though.

  174. C.L.

    Your Bathurst memory …
    Yes, folks – from the days when men were men – they did this.
    ——————
    From Bathurst 1000: Four decades of motor racing captured through a photographer’s lens.

  175. Boambee John

    candy

    If the other country involved in this dual citizenship issue was say Syria, Iran or Afghanistan, it would be a whole different story and George Brandis would not be able to argue for it. It’s only because the other nations concerned are “innocuous”, that he can get away with what he is saying and try to make it sound logical.

    Sam Dastardly and Iran?

  176. Boambee John

    Sam has assured us he is halal.

  177. Zatara

    Watching a bit about “superstars helping Puerto Rico”….. by singing on video in LA.

    I haven’t heard a thing about them actually writing checks tho.

  178. Neil

    The anti-gun proponents

    That statement really annoys me. At the moment people are not necessarily anti gun. They are anti some types of guns. Just like some people are ant some types of dogs like pitbulls, rottweilers etc

  179. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    In WW 2 in 1943 Australia produced the Wests most powerful tank, only to stop research when we received inferior US and UK armoured vehicles.

    Comment over on the Oz, about the submarine fiasco. I thought I knew as much as anyone about Australian military history, but that’s the first time I’d heard that claim made.

  180. candy

    Sam Dastardly and Iran?

    George Brandis’ only interest is keeping Barnaby Joyce there. The rights and wrongs are peripheral to him, is my take.

  181. Fergus

    Zyconoclast
    Have followed DS for years. They often use old fashioned journalism rather than cut and paste/”activism”.

  182. Makka

    I see Malturd is spending our money on telling us what a bang up job he is doing fixing our fked up energy situation in Australia. Thanks Mal.

  183. marcus classis

    In WW 2 in 1943 Australia produced the Wests most powerful tank, only to stop research when we received inferior US and UK armoured vehicles.

    Incorrect. The Sentinel might have been a good tank with the 25pdr but it was far from being teh west’s most powerful. The Sherman Firefly takes that prize.

    See The Chieftain’s Hatch Pt 1 & 2.

    Link

  184. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    See The Chieftain’s Hatch Pt 1 & 2.

    Marcus, may I quote you on that one?

  185. Cold-Hands

    I had expected a virtual spanking for pushing your possum buttons

    Possum buttons? So that’s who these belonged to…

  186. zyconoclast

    Attorney-General George Brandis has argued that parliamentar­ians who are dual citizens should not be disqualified from parliament if they “honestly swear” they had no idea they could be citizens of a foreign country.

    Remember it’s not a lie if you believe it.

  187. zyconoclast

    Fergus
    #2517360, posted on October 7, 2017 at 9:02 pm

    Thanks

  188. Delta A

    Possum buttons? So that’s who these belonged to…

    Aw, wookada widdle faces.

  189. Wow Hedley Thomas has certainly got a scoop

    Wow indeed. For the first time in ages I read an investigative article and not an opinion piece.
    I’m not used to this actual journalism. Well done, Hedley.

    Michael Smith over at Michael Smith News has been chasing this for years now, and has amassed a veritable trove of documents etc. Go and have a look there. Hedley Thomas has managed to come up with these notes, and good on him, but it hasn’t been him alone chasing this down.
    http://www.michaelsmithnews.com

  190. Boambee John

    Zulu at 2059

    See Fallen Sentinel by Peter Beale.

    Tha AC3 Thunderbolt usually mounted one 25 pdr, but was also fitted with two 25pdrs to simulate firing a 17pdr anti-tank gun. However the coax and hull MGs were deleted.

  191. calli

    Attorney-General George Brandis Costanza has argued that parliamentar­ians who are dual citizens should not be disqualified from parliament if they “honestly swear” they had no idea they could be citizens of a foreign country.

  192. C.L.

    Attorney-General George Brandis has argued that parliamentar­ians who are dual citizens should not be disqualified from parliament if they “honestly swear” they had no idea they could be citizens of a foreign country.

    Of course he did. Brandis believes Australia is an aristocracy with people like him the lords.

    Let’s imagine the more general application of his rule:

    Attorney-General George Brandis has argued that statutory rapists should not be disqualified from society if they “honestly swear” they had no idea the girl was only 15.

  193. C.L.

    Attorney-General George Brandis Costanza …

    As he later told Malcolm and Julie, “the court was angry that day, my friends.”

  194. calli

    This is fun.

    Attorney-General George Brandis has argued that speeding drivers should not be fined if they “honestly swear” they had no idea a fixed speed camera was in operation.

  195. Gab

    Attorney-General George Brandis has argued that refugees should not be deported from Australia if they “honestly swear” they had no idea they could be citizens of a foreign country.

  196. Tekweni

    Bit late on the clothes washing but some sound advice is to dump your top loader for a front loader. Clothes will last twice as long. I have been in the commercial chemical industry for over 25 years and I have seen all manner of “natural” cleaners used along with the consequent problems. Vinegar or acetic acid may work in a few situations but it’s no substitute for a built detergent.

  197. C.L.

    Well, it’s extraordinary, Calli.
    Here we have the first law officer of the Commonwealth arguing before the High Court that ignorance of the law is an excuse. And his reasoning is born of the view that the rulers are morally and jurisprudentially superior to the ruled. That is an aristocracy.

  198. notafan

    Asylum seekers should not be convicted of child sex offences if they ‘honestly swear’ they had no idea raping children was illegal in Australia.

    Oh hang on.

  199. Boambee John

    Marcus C at 2107

    However the AC3 with 17pdr would have matched the Firefly.

    But the lack of MGs would still have left it as number 2.

  200. calli

    They’ve just found this poor girl’s head.

    There is something seriously wrong with Sweden.

    And I don’t blame ABBA and allen keys.

  201. calli

    And his reasoning is born of the view that the rulers are morally and jurisprudentially superior to the ruled. That is an aristocracy.

    Rambler and I will have to get into tumbril training as soon as I get back. A good incentive to get over today’s bus diving.

  202. Leo G

    Here we have the first law officer of the Commonwealth arguing before the High Court that ignorance of the law is an excuse.

    It seems often to be an excuse for a lawyer to become a lawmaker.

  203. Myrddin Seren

    On October 4th, 3 U.S. Special Forces and 5 Nigerien soldiers were killed in an ambush while the U.S. Green berets was assisting Nigerien troops in counterterrorism training in southwest Niger.

    It’s even worse:

    Fourth Green Beret Found Dead In Niger

    A fourth Green Beret has been found dead in the firefight with Islamic extremists that occurred in southwest Niger Wednesday.

    A group of up to 50 Islamic State-affiliated fighters attacked a joint patrol of U.S. and Nigerian forces Wednesday.

    The team of 12 U.S. service members were traveling in unarmed pick-up trucks when ISIS-affiliated fighters began attacking the team with small arms fire and rocket-propelled grenades. The Green Berets quickly jumped out of the trucks and started firing back at the fighters.

    At some point, the fourth Green Beret became separated from his team and was later found dead. U.S. officials don’t believe that he was ever captured by the enemy.

    A total of five Nigerian troops were also killed in the attack.

    Sounds like ISIS had a good idea where to set an ambush.

  204. Fisky

    Owen Jones🌹 @OwenJones84
    ·
    5s
    Transphobia is deadly. About 40% of trans people have attempted suicide. Most trans people have some form of mental distress

    Sometimes progressives get it accidentally right.

  205. Myrddin Seren

    Paging calli….

    If you and the Beloved are still in Siem Reap and you remain mobile and want a fun step out in the night markets area……

    Go to the Reggae Bar !

    The guy behind the bar and disco laptop was a hoot and very accomodating of ageing Aussies. He explained his wife is Aussie and owns the bar. Heaps of fun music.

  206. C.L.

    I also think it’s pretty funny that Brandis used the adverb “honestly” to qualify “swear.”
    He seems to be drawing a distinction between swearing an oath and honestly swearing an oath.

  207. marcus classis

    ZK2A – quote away! Very, very reliable tank with a 17pdr was the Firefly.

    Boambee, I have absolutely no idea how you could squeeze a 17pdr into a Sentinel and fight the thing. Even if they fixed the truly horrible layout of the turret interior and replaced the very bulky water cooled .303 coax with a Besa… 17pde is a bloody big breech with a very big round. I mean, 25pdr is smaller….

    I think Sentinel with the 25pdr would have been a very good tank if they sorted many of the ergonomics of the turret interior. 25pdr had a good AP round and the HE round would also ruin a PzKpfw MkIV’s day and do no favours for even a PzKpfw MkV. It would evaporate a Chi-Ha or a Shinhoto Chi-Ha and be amazingly useful against Jap. spiderwebs and heavy bunkers. Hell, it’d be a seriously useful Funny with Hobarts weirdoes on D-Day.

  208. marcus classis

    Oh, the Sentinel only ever lost the hull .303. They never removed the coaxial .303

  209. Robber Baron

    At the “catholic” hospital. Visiting hours are signed on every wall and elevator. And for those that can’t read, they are announced over the public address system including a 15 minute, a 5 minute warning and a final announcement for everyone that visiting hours are over.

    The Bangladeshi muslims in the next bed don’t care for all these rules. No one tells them when to leave. I complained twice. The nurse told them that it was ok for them to stay as long as they like in their own home but they should say good bye and go home. Well, they decided to stay. I complained again. 20 minutes later the nurse came in and they scuttled out.

    These muslims don’t give a shit about us. They are moochers. They need to go back to where they come from.

  210. calli

    They do understand that hospitals here are for the care and recovery of the sick and injured?

    Back home they are God’s waiting room I suppose.

  211. Motelier

    Robber,

    Repeat after me.

    “Our Farter, who art in Heaven………”

    Just an evening prayer

  212. calli

    Myrrdin, thanks. We have another night here tomorrow. In a minute we’re off to dinne and a cultural show.

    Poor buggers. No one would want a history like Cambodia’s.

  213. Motelier

    Sh$t,

    How did I do that.

    Forgive me.

    Father.

  214. Bruce in WA

    That statement really annoys me. At the moment people are not necessarily anti gun.

    No. I have been actively involved in fighting the “anti-gun” movement in Australia since 1996. I have been called a “murderer”, had phone calls threatening my family, had my car panels kicked in and snot smeared over the windows, had a 10-year-old daughter in tears one night because she had been told I was a “bad man” for owning guns and was going to jail.

    I have come across literally hundreds, if not thousands, of people who are vehemently anti-any-gun whatsoever. They don’t care what it is, or what it’s used for; they want them all banned, collected and destroyed. Full stop. Period.

  215. Mark A

    calli
    #2517405, posted on October 7, 2017 at 10:16 pm

    Back home they are God’s waiting room I suppose.
    I’d rather die waiting for a western doc than be treated by peeps who believe in ‘karma’ or ‘inshallah’

    PS that phrase (inshallah) is not quite accurate but it absolves the doc from guilt as long as he has done his best, however inadequate his ‘best’ may have been.

  216. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Poor buggers. No one would want a history like Cambodia’s.

    Two million people, out of a population of eight million died from hunger, disease, or plain outright murdered, and the Left and their fvcking howler monkeys gibbered about how the Khmer Rouge coulnn’t be any worse then the Lon Nol government. Well, you got that one wrong didn’t you, you morons.

  217. marcus classis

    Bruce in WA
    #2517409, posted on October 7, 2017 at 10:40 pm

    Yes. And there is absolutely nothing you can do or say to alter their view one whit. Not in this country. They are totalitarian true-believers.

    Only time I have ever seen them STFU was when 3 of them were telling an American friend (Marine officer) how people in the USA like them should take his guns.

    His response ‘If you try to do that to me in the states, I will kill you.’ His tone was ‘the sun rises in the east’. He was merely stating an obvious fact.

    Dead silence.

    That he could have broken all three of those pathetic omega males in half with one hand also had an influence.

  218. egg_

    I guess the FBI would be in touch with the treating doctors, hospital visits, etc, to see a lead-up to such extra-ordinary mental illness. I kind of think there is a missing link we don’t know, where he felt killing up to hundreds of happy revellers at a concert was his life’s goal. Or he felt he was the devil or some kind of god taking retribution.

    A rather Grigoryesque reply.
    He built up his arsenal over a year, it wasn’t a snap decision.

  219. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    7th October, anniversary of the battle of Lepanto. Christians 1, Muslims nil.

  220. egg_

    The FBI “we have money for you” scam

    The arrogant North African twit on the other end had the shortest fuse, evah!

  221. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Deutsche Great Replacement™ going gangbusters
    Cologne Institute for Economic Research (IW) forecasts Germany’s population is going to increase to 83.1 million by 2035 despite previous reports suggesting the population will dip.

    And it is believed the rise is due to the record number of immigrants and asylum seekers which arrived in the country in 2015.

    The figure goes against analysis by the federal statistics office, which in 2015 reported the current 82 million population of Germany could drop by more than 10 million over the next 40 years.

  222. JC

    Decent, thoughtful piece on the futility of gun control. An interview with a statistician. Around two thirds of gun deaths in the US are the result of older white men suiciding.

    https://reason.com/blog/2017/10/04/a-statistician-reconsiders-her-support-f

  223. Without its huge laugh track, Friends plays very differently

    Never watched the show during its first run. Much preferred Seinfeld. Have an abiding hatred of laugh tracks too.

  224. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Bell V-280 Valor — Rotors Ground Run

    https://youtu.be/dafw9bFOr1I?t=13

  225. Brandis needs to be removed from office and the Parliament. He is easily the worst AG ever. A complete disgrace.

    Brandis delenda est.

  226. Mike of Marion

    A belter with “Take that look off your Face” – 1983

  227. marcus classis

    Loathesome.

    Muslims torturing/ abusing sheep while dancing.

    Psychos like serial killers, rapists, peddoes, murderers and other savages get their rocks off abusing animals. It says everything about a culture when doing that is normal behaviour.

  228. Steve trickler.

    A nice relaxing drive up Pikes Peak in the USA. It is very relaxing. Good for the soul.

    Spectacular and beautiful scenery.



  229. Stimpson J. Cat

    Two million people, out of a population of eight million died from hunger, disease, or plain outright murdered

    Most people can only count to six million.
    Anything less doesn’t matter.

  230. Bruce in WA

    Psychos like serial killers, rapists, peddoes, murderers and other savages get their rocks off abusing animals. It says everything about a culture when doing that is normal behaviour.

    I’ve been a (hunting) shooter since I was 17; 50 years ago.

    I loathe animal cruelty of any sort. It makes my blood run cold.

    In my book, there’s only one thing lower, and that’s those animals who abuse little kids and rob them of their innocence and trust forever.

    I honestly think I would do a Liam Neeson on anyone who harmed my kids or my grandkids. I also have a set of skills they wouldn’t like.

  231. Bruce in WA

    I guess for the spooks reading this, I should have added, NADT. But only because I have never been in that situation, and pray to God I never will be.

  232. Makka

    Cockneys vs Zombies ; the zombies didn’t stand a chance.

  233. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I honestly think I would do a Liam Neeson on anyone who harmed my kids or my grandkids. I also have a set of skills they wouldn’t like.

    Number two honorary stepdaughter – it’s a long story, don’t ask – had two would be tough guys trying to stand over her, alleging she owed them money. Very calmly, clearly and concisely, they were told that, in the event of any more threats, I would not be answerable for my actions, and they would suffer the consequences. ….

    “I don’t know what you said to them, but they are terrified of you! Absolutely terrified!”

  234. I have been corrected: Brandis delendus est.

  235. Fisky

    This is simply extraordinary.

    Knowingly exposing others to HIV will no longer be a felony in California

    Gov. Jerry Brown signed a bill Friday that lowers from a felony to a misdemeanor the crime of knowingly exposing a sexual partner to HIV without disclosing the infection.

    The measure also applies to those who give blood without telling the blood bank that they are HIV-positive.

  236. Fisky

    I get a strong sense that a lot of gay men actually want to spread HIV. Society becomes more “equal” that way, when everyone is infected. Or something.

  237. Fisky

    You have to wonder if the State of California could potentially open itself up to some serious class action a decade or so down the line.

  238. Marcus

    Well, it’s extraordinary, Calli.
    Here we have the first law officer of the Commonwealth arguing before the High Court that ignorance of the law is an excuse.

    I’d say that’s more along the lines of ignorance of fact.

  239. calli

    Car mounts kerb injuring several people in London. Natural History museum, south Ken. Man arrested.

    A Lepanto celebration perhaps?

  240. MsDolittle

    Just home, the French are fucked.

  241. calli

    The measure also applies to those who give blood without telling the blood bank that they are HIV-positive.

    Oh great. The lessons of the 80’s haven’t been learned. Poor Arthur Ashe and the thousands of others.

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