Wednesday Forum: October 11, 2017

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  1. candy

    Btw, why did the NYT start on this Winestine dude? Did he try it on with the editor’s missus or something?

    More like someone’s young daughter. Somewhere he crossed a Hollywood “line”, even for those hypocrites.

  2. notafan

    Melbourne international is nothing like as bad as Dubai or Abu Dhabi.

    Dan Andrews might be doing his his best, but he has a way to go to match either.

  3. Well it’s night for me and it’s night for him.

    I never got the meaning of that, if any Cats would oblige I’d be grateful.

    It’s a misquote of the standard ending of an old UK comedy show, “The Two Ronnies”, with Ronnie Corbett and Ronnie Barker.

    “Well, it’s goodnight from me, and goodnight from him”.

    Another two Pommy comedians with their own show, Morecombe and Wise, used to spoof it sometimes.

  4. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    My dance teacher put me on to this. Ballet and illusion. Amazing, and half the fun is watching the faces on the Chinese audience.

    http://youtu.be/pKiNCbbuuqA

  5. stackja

    candy
    #2521793, posted on October 13, 2017 at 8:32 am
    Btw, why did the NYT start on this Winestine dude? Did he try it on with the editor’s missus or something?

    More like someone’s young daughter. Somewhere he crossed a Hollywood “line”, even for those hypocrites.

    Someone here quoted a story that W was too pro-Israel.

  6. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    MORE than a quarter of eligible Northern Territory prisoners declined to be released on parole in 2016, rather than risk breaching their conditions and facing extra jail time.

    This speaks volumes about how if you are in clink and serious about staying out of trouble you should avoid going back into it in your ‘community’, where drink, dope and sit-down money will once more ensure that you live in a situation of learned helplessness, seething violence and the inevitable lawbreaking.

  7. Rabz

    Tom – Zanetti is becoming excellent value. His last two have been classics.

    I love his rendering of Josh the Wombat.

  8. alexnoaholdmate

    At what point does Monty say – as Timbo Flanders should – “You know what? I make prediction after prediction, and I get them wrong every time. Not one wrong here, not one wrong there. Every time. Statistically, my results are next to impossible. I perform worse than random chance – a monkey throwing darts at a board. Maybe I’m not the expert I think I am after all…? “

  9. Boambee John

    alexnoaholdmate

    Never.

    The left are not big on self-criticism. They know they are always correct. Reality is just a minor obstacle.

  10. Rabz

    “You know what? I make prediction after prediction, and I get them wrong every time. Not one wrong here, not one wrong there. Every time.

    I found his grandstanding about about the NFL and the inevitable complete misreading of the likely outcome to be typical, but hilarious.

    Never back an incompetent sport administration and brain damaged athletes in a stoush with Fatty Trump and an increasingly pissed off fan base.

  11. notafan

    Clearly not eligible for refugee status illegal immigrants are just hanging around for welfare, and the criminal excusing organisation that is known as the asylum seekers welfare Centre, parasites feeding off parasites, continue to encourage them.


    Dutton throws down the gauntlet

  12. Indolent

    The U.S. is has formally notified the UN that it is withdrawing from UNESCO.

  13. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Re suggestions upthread – I am neither grey nor a nomad, and I have about as much desire to visit Antarctica as take a rocket to the moon. I’d consider the inhabited parts of the Arctic though, a scenic cruise to upper Norway or Alaska. Hairy is geeing up for Africa and the wildebeest though and I doubt I can avoid it if we are to remain friends. I thought marriage was more about ungirding the loins than girding up, but in this instance it seems not.

  14. stackja

    Indolent
    #2521817, posted on October 13, 2017 at 9:05 am
    The U.S. is has formally notified the UN that it is withdrawing from UNESCO.

    Thank you.

  15. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    I perform worse than random chance – a monkey throwing darts at a board.

    I love it. A great metaphor for much of human endeavour and probably wasted on just M0nty.

  16. Entropy

    That illusionist ballerina was amazing Lizzie. I will show the miss Entropy’s tonight to see if their school would try it on 😊

  17. stackja

    notafan
    #2521816, posted on October 13, 2017 at 9:05 am

    Noosheen Mogadam, a policy adviser with the Norwegian Refugee Council based in Gaziantep on the Turkish-Syrian border.

  18. Sparkx

    And a thank you from me Lizzie. An amazing clip.

  19. Top Ender

    If Cloive is so clever, why does he behave so stupidly?

    Clive Palmer is trying to delay a judge from deciding whether $200 million worth of his assets should be frozen, as he fights to rely on a controversial conspiracy-filled affidavit about Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull.

    Taxpayer-funded liquidators for Mr Palmer’s collapsed Queensland Nickel company have asked the Queensland Supreme Court to freeze the former federal MP’s assets, to stop him from shifting his wealth to avoid paying the company’s creditors.

    The case is due back in court on Tuesday, but Mr Palmer and his companies want it delayed, until he appeals a recent decision which banned him from relying on late, controversial and allegedly “scandalous” evidence.

    Queensland Supreme Court judge John Bond told Mr Palmer he could not use as evidence an affidavit in which he made wild allegations about Mr Turnbull, other politicians and liquidators. Mr Palmer was also stopped from tendering a self-published book about his “achievements” as the one-term federal MP for the Sunshine Coast electorate of Fairfax.

    Justice Bond said Mr Palmer’s attempt to rely on the self-published book was hard to take seriously. Barrister Tom Sullivan QC, for liquidators PPB Advisory, said Mr Palmer’s other affidavit was “scandalous” and successfully applied for it to be temporarily removed from the public record.

    In an appeal filed in the Queensland Supreme Court this week, Mr Palmer’s lawyers said Justice Bond erred in refusing to allow him to adduce further evidence.

    Mr Palmer is representing himself in the asset-freezing case, even though his companies are being represented by a team of barristers and solicitors.

    In his recent judgment, Justice Bond noted that he would not accept Mr Palmer’s proposition that he was an “ordinary litigant … outnumbered by senior counsel, well resourced, on the other side”.

    Link

  20. stackja

    Guman opens fire in market in Trelleborg, Sweden
    BREAKING: AT least seven people have been seriously injured after a gunman fired at customers at a busy market in Sweden.

  21. Today: the Supreme Court rules not only to remove the case from the upcoming docket, but also rules 8-1 to vacate all lower court decisions restricting Trump’s travel ban.

    Rakes ahoy!

    That is exactly what I said, alex. The case they removed was Trump v IRAP, which was about the expired ban. They still are yet to hear Trump v Hawaii, which is about the current ban.

    You just raked yourself.

  22. struth

    MORE than a quarter of eligible Northern Territory prisoners declined to be released on parole in 2016, rather than risk breaching their conditions and facing extra jail time.

    It is well known that in the Northern Territory, some crimes by aboriginal people are committed in the hope of being sent to jail.
    A good clean up, three square meals, airconditioning and to catch up with your mates without the Missus screaming at you and whacking you with anything she can find 24/7.

    In Alice Springs, the prison has some accommodation homes for prisoners OUTSIDE of the prison.
    When they need to go in and bash the missus or anything else, they walk in or get a lift and then come back.
    No shit.
    I used to make deliveries into the prison and the blackfellas would come out and help me unload.
    Nicest bunch of blokes you could meet once outside of their socialist controlled hellholes.

  23. Baldrick

    Champagne Socialist list to be revealed:

    THE ABC will be forced to disclose by the end of next month which of its journalists and presenters are on ­taxpayer-funded salaries of more than $200,000.
    If the publicly funded broadcasters refuse to co-operate, Senator Fifield has vowed to change the law to force them to release the salary lists.
    Radio host Jon Faine, 7.30 anchor Leigh Sales and Radio National Breakfast presenter Fran Kelly are likely among the ABC’s best-paid talent.
    Five on-air ABC presenters are paid between $375,000 and $450,000, according to data supplied to the Senate by the ABC earlier this year.
    Six presenters are on pay packages between $300,000 and $375,000, and a further nine earn from $225,000 to $300,000.

  24. srr

    Tel
    #2521768, posted on October 13, 2017 at 7:58 am

    Does anyone seriously believe that the main pillars of Leftist power, Hollywood and the media, would be getting destroyed like this if it weren’t for Trump? No way.

    Their hypocrisy has been pointed out many times, and doesn’t usually bother anyone.

    Probably what Trump demonstrated is that you get better results pushing back than you do with attempts at polite negotiation and compromise. Once that’s understood, it takes on a life of its own.

    What Trump did was choose the side of The Forgotten Man, the average Joe good guy who just wanted to work hard, do the right thing and not have to sell out to the devil just to survive.

    You know, those who always warned against siding with the lying mobs. Those who the lying mobs always attacked for simply caring to warn people about what the lying mobs are up to, like running stables of gatekeepers to sell false narratives and verbal, smear and libel those who dared to witness and warn.

    Those who all the ‘connected‘ and ‘powerful‘ and their well paid minions cackled at, mocked and tore into like packs of rabid hyenas.

    Ah, the good old day, when there was no end of net heads and IT experts rushing to nail a tinfoil hat on everyone who said, ‘This is what the c#nts are doing. I know the c#nts doing it.‘.

    Those days before The Messenger, Trump, rose to show the world that the good guys were right all along, about the Fake News, False Narrative spinning, Propaganda peddlers –

    Project Veritas Retweeted
    RT‏Verified account @RT_com 8h8 hours ago

    ‘Human input into #YouTube machinery’ makes specific news trend – #ProjectVeritas https://on.rt.com/8pl9

    “… what’s done in the dark will be brought to the light …”

    Johnny Cash – God´s Gonna Cut You Down (The Boondock Saints)

  25. Snoopy

    Is it misreporting or are ABC producers exempted from the declaration to the Senate? They have more influence over what is broadcast than the presenters.

  26. calli

    Loved the ballerina. In China, we saw the mask dance, where the face changed many times right in fron of you. Crafty and cunning people, those Chinese. 😃

  27. H B Bear

    From The Oz

    “The ABC will have to disclose the identities of its highest-paid stars by the end of next month, after a request from the government”.

    This is good news. No government on either side has got anywhere tackling the ALPBC staff co-op as a whole. Time to personalise it.

  28. areff

    Crafty and cunning people, those Chinese.

    “Inscrutable”, I believe, is the time-honoured term

  29. Gab

    Benjamin Netanyahu‏Verified account @netanyahu 6h6 hours ago
    Replying to @netanyahu @realDonaldTrump

    I have instructed the Foreign Ministry to prepare Israel’s withdrawal from UNESCO in parallel with the United States.

  30. Las Vegas shooting conspiracy Nota?
    Probably just ass covering at the moment. We know the shooter pumped 200 rounds into the corridor 5 minutes before he started shooting at the poor innocents in the crowd.
    What happened in those 5 minutes? Those who should have responded immediately apparently didn’t.
    The security guard took a bullet in the leg, communicated with someone for assistance, yet it wasn’t forthcoming.

  31. Gab
    #2521866, posted on October 13, 2017 at 10:02 am

    I have instructed the Foreign Ministry to prepare Israel’s withdrawal from UNESCO in parallel with the United States.

    More Winning

  32. Geriatric Mayfly

    The best bribe Hairy can offer a reluctant safariist is something in tanzanite at trip’s end for good behaviour.
    Exclusive to Tanzania, and rocketing in price by the day, I do believe the back alleys of Arusha may lead to these exquisite blue baubles – unmounted of course.

  33. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Multiple people shot at ‘several locations’ in Swedish town of Trelleborg as police declare major incident

    Armed police have cordoned off Trelleborg town centre where several people were found with suspected gunshot injuries

  34. H B Bear

    Mosquebourne airport (or at least the domestic terminal) is just as bad if not worse – and there’s no quick cheap commuting option into the CBD, which Sydney at least has with the rail line.

    Rabz – Skybus is fine in Melbourne. Last time I used it it was about $30 return and around half an hour into Spencer St Station. Cheapest commute to the airport – bus to Adelaide airport $3.50 one way. Almost saved enough to have a beer when I got there.

    Perth is about to drop $1bn+ (it doesn’t have) on a train line to the airport. I wonder if they will release airport passenger numbers when it is up and running?

  35. GP

    You never hear: “Why can’t we be more like Sweden?” any more.

  36. H B Bear

    Multiple people shot at ‘several locations’ in Swedish town of Trelleborg as police declare major incident

    Lucky mUnty is safe in Melbournibad.

  37. jupes

    Armed police have cordoned off Trelleborg town centre where several people were found with suspected gunshot injuries

    How can you have a suspected gunshot injury?

  38. Snoopy

    Laura Jayes busy weinsteining Di Natale on Sky.

  39. struth

    It can’t be a gun mass murder in Sweden, they have strict gun ownership laws like Australia.

    Right after Las Vegas, this won’t get a big run in the MSM.
    It’s against the narrative.

  40. Snoopy

    How can you have a suspected gunshot injury?

    There could be an outbreak of some hitherto unknown spontaneous ulcers.

  41. jupes

    Rabz – Skybus is fine in Melbourne.

    I use Skybus in Melbourne because it stops in Spencer Street close to my hotel.

    Tip for young players though: Don’t fill up with beer prior to the return journey. There are no toilets on board and no stops from Spencer Street to the airport.

  42. Infidel Tiger

    Suspected gunshot injuries from an alleged gun fired by a gender non specific life form of no appearance.

  43. Infidel Tiger

    It’s Melbourne Jupes, you can piss anywhere you like.

  44. srr

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    Oct 12, 2017
    A member of the Satanic Temple in Missouri sued the state because she claimed that she was overcome with “guilt and shame” after having to go through the process of Missouri’s strong pro-life laws to obtain an abortion. How can this be if Satanists are not supposed to value human life or feel guilt and shame about anything they do? How can conservatives fight back against this type of law-fare? The Right Angle team explores the answers to these questions.

  45. notafan

    What happened in those 5 minutes? Those who should have responded immediately apparently didn’t.

    In my wildest dreams I wouldn’t expect police to turn up to a shooting five minutes after the event, especially if the call went via a third party and more especially if a crowd of 22,000 were attacked at the five minute mark.

    People attempting to paint this as a sign of something sinister are foolish, in any case the police have already said they were not aware that the security guard had been shot at the Mandalay Bay until they saw him.

  46. Geriatric Mayfly

    You never hear: “Why can’t we be more like Sweden?” any mo

    It used make me ashamed to be an Australian, when the glories of Sweden were regularly paraded by SBS/ABC and their ilk.

  47. jupes

    More “science” from the ABC:

    “All this talk about ‘you’ve got to have baseload power stations’ is complete nonsense,” says Dr Mark Diesendorf.

    His team at the University of New South Wales ran “thousands of computer simulations” correlating hourly power-consumption data from the National Electricity Market (NEM) in 2010, with the potential power generation of renewables, based on recorded weather data for the same year.

    He claims that a combination of existing technologies, including hydro and biofuelled gas turbines, were able to supply the simulated NEM even during “peak demand” — on winter evenings following overcast days.

    Professor Blakers agrees. He says that Australia’s energy future lies in solar and wind, with pumped hydro as a balancing source.

    “Pumped hydro is 100-year-old technology, completely off the shelf, and importantly you can get these pumped-hydro sites built before 2022,” he says.

    LOL Keep those simulations coming Professor Blackout.

  48. C.L.

    You never hear: “Why can’t we be more like Sweden?” any more.

    Sweden is a cautionary tale for what happens to a country run by women, where masculinity is illegal.

  49. Geriatric Mayfly

    Qantas is poised to announce it will power its Los Angeles-based aircraft with biofuel from 2020.

    On a wing, a prayer and rancid chip oil.

  50. johanna

    Fauxfacts has as one of its most popular stories one about a woman who hoiked a harmless member of the shark species over the wall of a seapool at Cronulla. What a heroine!

    “Everyone was saying, ‘What do we do?’

    “Mum even rang triple zero and the police came.

    FFS, it was either a Port Jackson shark or a Wobbegong, both of which are about as dangerous as a goldfish. They are very common in the area, are bottom feeders, and have zero interest in anything larger than a mollusc for food. Any regular beachgoer, fisher, or generally sentient human knows that. They look and behave like catfish.

    Yet the headline is “Woman picks up shark and throws it out of Cronulla ocean pool.” Good grief.

    Mind you, she probably did it a favour. As hysterical Mum called triple O, probably the TSG would have turned up and shot it otherwise.

  51. Boambee John

    HBB at 1017

    Lucky mUnty is safe in Melbournibad

    It’s OK, it wasn’t in peaceful Malmo!

  52. JC

    Geriatric Mayfly
    #2521898, posted on October 13, 2017 at 10:36 am
    Qantas is poised to announce it will power its Los Angeles-based aircraft with biofuel from 2020.

    On a wing, a prayer and rancid chip oil.

    Leave them alone
    The stock hit 6.20
    The Irish midget could root Neil Armfield on the boardroom table for all we care.

  53. C.L.

    I see the driver who killed 53 year-old cardiac nurse Lynda Hansen in a hit-and-run was on parole for dozens of offences. She was reportedly a very spiritual person, loved her yoga and Gospel choir singing, beloved of her family, carer to her elderly mother – a rolled gold citizen. Now she’s dead because scumbag and parole. When are we going to prosecute and jail these parole board scum?

    Congratulations to police for finding and perp-walking the weasel killer.

  54. JC

    Tip for young players though: Don’t fill up with beer prior to the return journey. There are no toilets on board and no stops from Spencer Street to the airport.

    Dude, it’s a max 40 min ride. How often do you have to take a slash during a 40 minute car ride? 🙂

  55. thefrolickingmole

    “Think of the circumstances of unskilled or semi-skilled Western white men. Challenged by economic change, the gender revolution and the migration of people, culture and ideas, every reality they thought they could rely on has given way beneath them.

    I love the neutral tone, as though most of those changes fell from the sky rather than were deliberately imposed by governments.

    Migration: 100% government controlled
    Economics: Lets be generous and assign on 50% crippled by government and regulation
    Gender revolution: Because we are so much better off having both mum and dad working while the kids are “safe schooled” right?

    They havent “given way” theyve been deliberately and maliciously nobbled by people who despise Australia and its people.

  56. JC

    Infidel Tiger
    #2521888, posted on October 13, 2017 at 10:24 am
    It’s Melbourne Jupes, you can piss anywhere you like.

    Anymore of this criticism bullshit from you, Artist and we’re revoking your restricted grand final visa.

  57. areff

    Wobbegong

    Is that the incorrect NSW name for a banjo shark?

  58. Sparkx

    His team at the University of New South Wales ran “thousands of computer simulations”

    Would those simulations be similar to the ones they use for climate change predictions?

  59. jupes

    Dude, it’s a max 40 min ride. How often do you have to take a slash during a 40 minute car ride? 🙂

    Well I probably had a few pints too many because it felt like a four hour ride.

    There was a traffic jam close to the airport as well.

  60. C.L.

    Speaking of Victorians … best idea of the week was my suggestion that Christine Nixon use her police medal in an homage to the mystery AFL boob girl for her next book cover.

  61. jupes

    Lucky we pay the ABC a lazy billion to give us the most trusted news.

    News.com.au reporting the Sweden shooting at 7.41.

    Three hours later the ABC is still unaware.

  62. Sparkx

    areff, from memory (and quite a lot of diving off Sydney) you have the banjo shark, the gummy or wobbegong, and the Port Jackson. The banjo has a very round head with tendrils on it’s top lip. The gummy has a much narrower head and, as the name indicates, no teeth. The PJ is sleeker than the other two, harmless and can be playful. The gummy is very good eating.

  63. johanna

    C.L.
    #2521895, posted on October 13, 2017 at 10:33 am

    You never hear: “Why can’t we be more like Sweden?” any more.

    Sweden is a cautionary tale for what happens to a country run by women, where masculinity is illegal.

    What is interesting is that Denmark, which is right next door, is taking a very different approach. They don’t want Sweden’s overflow, they insist that incomers learn the language and espouse their values, they are very strict about welfare for recent arrivals, their doors are not open for anyone who lobs, and so on.

    I don’t know why these two nations are so far apart on these issues. Being a bumpkin, I assumed that all the Nordics were much the same.

    Can anyone provide enlightenment?

  64. srr

    Sometimes those playing the devil’s advocate aren’t playing.

    Far more often than most people could cope with knowing.

  65. notafan

    Not terrorism ‘gang related violence’ no doubt code for muslim invader on muslim invader violence


    shooting in Sweden

  66. The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing USSR that he controlled random poliblog commenters.

  67. notafan

    Denmark had a change of government a couple of years ag0, from the usual green left to a centre right lot.

    The indig were complaining about the behaviour of their new citizens when I was there back in 2005,

    Halving the benefits for asylum seekers last year made Denmark a far less attractive destination.

    The Danes have their problems, but at least they admit they do.

  68. areff

    Thanks, Sparx. During summer, when hot nights lead me to cross the road and go for a dip, I’ve several times come across banjo sharks just sitting on the sand in the shallows. Even managed to pat one, which it tolerated, then swam about 10 feet and settled again. A further patting saw it take off for good.

    If it is a proper shark, how come it was just be sitting there? Aren’t sharks obliged to keep moving or die?

  69. Chris

    The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing USSR that he controlled random poliblog commenters.

    That was almost witty Monts. Well done.

  70. JC

    Sure Johanna

    The Danes don’t beat to the same drum. The Swedes more or less aligned themselves with the nazis thereby avoiding being overrun. The Danes were, but unlike say the Dutch they were very brave and didn’t say accede to German demands of giving up their Jews…unlike ummm others….

  71. H B Bear

    Dude, it’s a max 40 min ride. How often do you have to take a slash during a 40 minute car ride? 🙂

    Pre City Link the Tullamarine Fwy was a complete lottery. I’ve been sitting in a cab 300m from the airport gates while a mate took a piss in the bushes following a few quick beers after work before flying back to Perth.

  72. JC

    Sure Johanna

    The Danes don’t beat to the same drum. The Swedes more or less aligned themselves with the nazis thereby avoiding being overrun. The Danes were, but unlike say the Dutch they were very brave and didn’t say accede to German demands of giving up their [email protected]…unlike ummm others….

  73. H B Bear

    ABC’s Tuesday Book Club folding. Good.

    Another ALPBC trougher goes on gardening duties?

  74. Sparkx

    areff, the banjo shark is quite unique and not really a shark. It is closer to the stingray family.

  75. Chris

    If it is a proper shark, how come it was just be sitting there? Aren’t sharks obliged to keep moving or die?

    When the tide goes out in Shark Bay you get the seagrass banks fully exposed. In the shallow channels you see little traffic jams of Port Jacksons waiting for the tide with their little fins sticking out of the water.
    And paddling off in a narrow sea kayak, I might see 100-200 black patches on the sand in a metre of water – small tiger sharks all around. Doooon’t wobbbble – ah fuck, in I go! And out I leap back onto the upside-down kayak!

  76. max

    Qantas made a loss of two point something billion a few years back.

    Yes, the Irish dwarf has restored profitability of a few hundred mill but they’ll never make back that sum no matter how cheap avgas is.

    Mind you, Virgin is even more buggered, and they don’t have an Irish homo in charge.

  77. johanna

    Mind you, she probably did it a favour. As hysterical Mum called triple O, probably the TSG would have turned up and shot it otherwise.

    On reflection, that should read:

    “probably the TSG would have turned up and shot some innocent bystanders.”

    Sorry about that.

    Chances are the shark (known as a “gummy shark” when I was growing up there) would have been unscathed, although no doubt its rights under some UN protocol had been violated.

  78. Infidel Tiger

    Qantas made a book loss not a real loss.

    The glorified hostess’s only real genius was riding a cheap oil wave.

  79. Infidel Tiger

    Sweden is the world’s coal mine canary.

  80. JC

    I highly recomemd the danish movie about the king, which was recently showing at the flicks. It’s really good.

  81. JC

    Qantas made a book loss not a real loss.

    Sactly. Imbeciles were selling like it was a cash loss.

  82. thefrolickingmole

    Sooner or later the penny will drop for the lunatic greens that removing coal and oil from the energy mix and replacing it with “biomass” actually means cutting down trees and shit.
    Then a little further along they will learn 1kg of coal or oil produces more energy than 1kg of wood, Im not sure how they will take learning that.

    New airplane biofuels plan would ‘destroy rainforests’, warn campaigners
    Plan to accelerate production of biofuels for passenger planes would lead to clearing of rainforests to produce ‘vast’ amount of necessary crops

    To rein this back, the industry has promised carbon neutral growth by 2020 – to be met by biofuels, if a blueprint is approved at an International Civil Aviation Organisation (Icao) conference in Mexico City tomorrow.

    The “green jet fuel” plan would ramp up the use of aviation biofuels to 5m tonnes a year by 2025, and 285m tonnes by 2050 – enough to cover half of overall demand for international aviation fuel.

    ..
    It is impossible to quantify the precise extent of deforestation that the proposal could cause, but based on the Malaysian Palm Oil Council’s crude palm oil yields and Total conversion figures, Biofuelwatch estimate that 82.3m hectares of land (316,603 sq miles) would be needed to meet the target, if it were sourced from palm oil alone. That is more than three times the size of the UK.

    Carlos Calvo Ambel, a spokesman for Transport and Environment, said: “Most biofuels are worse for the climate than jet fuel.

  83. srr

    #LasVegas #1: The Mandalay Bay Massacre
    Sargon of Akkad
    Oct 12, 2017
    An attempt to collate and analyse evidence of the events surrounding Stephen Paddock’s shooting rampage and establish what questions are left unanswered.

  84. Senile Old Guy

    FFS, it was either a Port Jackson shark or a Wobbegong, both of which are about as dangerous as a goldfish. They are very common in the area, are bottom feeders, and have zero interest in anything larger than a mollusc for food.

    Since 1990, 12 species of shark were identified as responsible for unprovoked attacks (Table 2). The three species historically considered to represent the biggest threat to humans (the white, tiger and bull shark combined) represent 48% of attacks. A further 20% of attacks was attributed to unidentified species in the Carcharhinidae family (designated as ‘whaler sp. Group’) and 20% for the wobbegong shark.

    (Changing patterns of shark attacks in Australian waters. John G. West. Marine and Freshwater Research, 2011, 62, 744–754.)

    If it is a proper shark, how come it was just be sitting there? Aren’t sharks obliged to keep moving or die?

    Some sharks must swim constantly in order to keep oxygen-rich water flowing over their gills, but others are able to pass water through their respiratory system by a pumping motion of their pharynx. This allows them to rest on the sea floor and still breathe. American Museum of Natural History.

  85. johanna

    If it is a proper shark, how come it was just be sitting there? Aren’t sharks obliged to keep moving or die?

    Sharks need to keep water moving through their gills (although they are not really gills, sharks being a bit different.)

    Anyway, some of them have very slow metabolisms, so just the natural movement of the water around them is enough. Our local species seem to be a bit like koalas, slow all round. They certainly don’t circumnavigate the globe like their movie-star cousins. They just kinda hang around and do as little as possible.

    As I said above, they are more like catfish than sharks.

  86. Snoopy

    Carlos Calvo Ambel, a spokesman for Transport and Environment, said: “Most biofuels are worse for the climate than jet fuel.

    I recall someone making the analogy that, regarding energy inputs, harvesting biofuels was like strip mining a coal seam 1 inch thick*. There’s a good reason why no one does that.

    * I can’t remember the actual thickness quoted, but it was very thin.

  87. srr

    struth
    #2521883, posted on October 13, 2017 at 10:20 am

    It can’t be a gun mass murder in Sweden, they have strict gun ownership laws like Australia.

    Right after Las Vegas, this won’t get a big run in the MSM.
    It’s against the narrative.

    It’s the “multiple locations” part of the attack that they don’t want to remind people of.

    The officially admitted constantly changing stories about MB in LV are an important part of preventing people from focusing on the other locations, such as the Bellagio, that were also terrorised, and just how unprepared most Western LEO’s are to successfully tackle multiple sleeper cells coordinating their attacks to strike multiple key locations at the same time.

    Britain’s blatant cowing to Islam no doubt has a lot to do with Muslims already long ago demonstrating that while they and all their yet unknown supporters and converts are literally everywhere, un-infiltrated, British loyalist policing, detection and military aren’t … so the deals have been struck; just keep targeting the commoner class … 👿

    Fortunately, that season of things is also changing.

  88. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Maybe I am getting long in the tooth, but what’s “horrifying” about this HW exchange. No wonder the cops dropped it.

  89. Senile Old Guy

    Stick to something you know johanna.

    Sharks need to keep water moving through their gills (although they are not really gills, sharks being a bit different.)

    Of course, they are gills you dill! Gills are structures which extract oxygen from the water and they come in many forms. All large aquatic creatures have them, or some other mechanism. (I have dissected them.)

    Sharks are related to the bony fish. Relationships are at this page.

    Anyway, some of them have very slow metabolisms, so just the natural movement of the water around them is enough.

    Utter bollocks. All sharks have gills and either swim or pump water through the gills. And, like other animals, have a circulatory system to transport the oxygen to the tissues. The problem for large animals is that oxygen diffuses slowly through water and tissues. In large jellyfish, the tissue is thin enough for the oxygen to diffuse in. This doesn’t work for larger animals. Even earthworms have a circulatory system.

  90. Senile Old Guy

    Peter Costello calls for nationalisation of superannuation. The former treasurer says Australia’s collective $2.3 trillion pension pot would be better invested by a government agency.

    Nothing is ever invested better by a government agency. So much for Peter Costello and his supposed “conservative” values. Inch by inch, the government is moving to gets its rapacious fingers on our super. It was inevitable.

  91. johanna

    Sorry, SOG, I simply don’t believe that 1 in 5 shark attacks were by Wobbegongs. That is rubbish.

    No idea how that conclusion was reached, but it is wrong.

    I lived in areas infested by Wobbies for years, and never heard of even a nip, let alone an “attack.” If you step on one, sure, it will react. But swimmers, snorkellers, skindivers alike regarded them like a piece of the scenery. They are not at all aggressive. FFS, they eat worms and shellfish and stuff off the bottom of the sea. Why would they be attacking people (unless the people annoyed them.) It just doesn’t make sense.

  92. Stimpson J. Cat

    That is going to be hilarious.

    They need to get Jim Carrey to host the Oscar’s.
    I guarantee he will do his Illuminati spiel.

  93. johanna

    Cheez, SOG, do you have the grumps, or what?

    Sharks are not classified as fish. Fish have gills, but you argue that any mechanism which does the same job is a gill.

    OK. Bully for you.

    The fact is, the way that sharks and rays and so on extract oxygen is different from the way that bony fish extract it. It’s a different thing, a different mechanism. That’s one of the things that differentiates them from fish. It’s not a slight difference, it’s a big one.

    Just as some species of fish can rest in a spot and still breathe, so can some sharks and rays. It’s no big deal.

  94. Senile Old Guy

    Sorry, SOG, I simply don’t believe that 1 in 5 shark attacks were by Wobbegongs. That is rubbish.

    No idea how that conclusion was reached, but it is wrong.

    I provide a paper published in Marine and Freshwater Research, a leading journal for aquatic science in Australia and the southern hemisphere, written by John G. West, Coordinator, Australian Shark Attack File, but johanna doesn’t believe it!

    Apparently, we should rely on what an ex-public servant thinks instead of all those who contributed to the shark attack research! What a dill! This after telling us that sharks don’t have gills!

    And she could find out how the conclusion was reached by reading the paper I linked to! Too hard.

  95. OneWorldGovernment

    No wonder the former Liberal Party of Australia is cactus when the former Treasurer can come out and say that The Government will fix it by taking over super.

    I now understand the rational of selecting so many quisling Liberals.

    Someone should punch him in the mouth.

  96. Stimpson J. Cat

    First they came for Harvey Weinstein.
    Soon it will be Dan Schneider.
    Then sh$t will blow up.

  97. zyconoclast

    When too many green scams are never enough

    Why electric cars have hit a dead end in Australia

    (RTWT)

    Vehicles for sale in Australia by fuel type (2015)

    Cost of Nissan Leaf electric car

    $38,000
    Average cost in Australia
    $24,000
    Average cost in California (includes about $15,000 in rebates)
    $28,000
    Cost of average car in Australia

    Australia’s electric vehicle market lags behind those of other developed nations, such as the United States (0.7 per cent of new vehicle sales in 2015), France (1.4 per cent), and Norway (22.8 per cent).

  98. Boambee John

    johanna at 1148

    Why would they be attacking people (unless the people annoyed them.) It just doesn’t make sense.

    The bolded bit is the key.

    Idiots see a wobby, think it is harmless, drag it round by the tail or something equally stupid, and wonder why they get bitten.

    Probably not going to do much harm, certainly compared to a bite by a White, Tiger, or Bull shark, but a statistic nonetheless.

  99. srr

    Hollywood Resistance Retweeted
    Ex-Dem 🇺🇸Latina‏ @ExDemLatina 2h2 hours ago

    In case you haven’t seen Rose McGowans tweets
    accusing Jeff Bezos (Amazon) covering Harvey Weinstein rape of Rose

    here’s a recap
    https://twitter.com/ExDemLatina/status/918619231507292160

  100. Speaking of Victorians … best idea of the week was my suggestion that Christine Nixon use her police medal in an homage to the mystery AFL boob girl for her next book cover.

    Damn, that is sick.

  101. herodotus

    ABC – “The latest high-profile figure to come out against Weinstein is …” (wait for it)
    “Joe Biden”.

  102. Boambee John

    PS my vague recolection, which might not be accurate, is that a wobby, unlike most sharks or fish, can twist its back far enough around to bite the arm to which the hand holding its tail is connected. This would come as an unpleasant surprise to the fool tormenting it.

  103. Senile Old Guy

    Now sharks are not fish!

    The fact is, the way that sharks and rays and so on extract oxygen is different from the way that bony fish extract it. It’s a different thing, a different mechanism. That’s one of the things that differentiates them from fish. It’s not a slight difference, it’s a big one.

    Doubling down on stupid! I have dissected fish and sharks. I have examined their structures in detail. Sharks are one of the groups of fish. And they extract oxygen from water in just the same way as bony fish. All of this is verifiable with Google.

    And it is not “bully for me”, you dill. It is how gills are defined in biology. It is in every elementary text book. Collins dictionary:

    gill the respiratory organ in many aquatic animals, consisting of a membrane or outgrowth well supplied with blood vessels. External gills occur in tadpoles, some molluscs, etc; internal gills, within gill slits, occur in most fishes.

  104. Tom

    Mind you, Virgin is even more buggered, and they don’t have an Irish homo in charge.

    It’s a standing airline industry joke that “Qantas is becoming Virgin and Virgin is becoming Qantas”. That’s because, from the day he arrived at Virgin, John Borghetti — the Qantas middle manager who left in a huff when Joyce got the top job at QF — has sent Virgin’s unit operating costs through the roof.

    It’s a basket case. It might as well be Ansett. All Joyce has to beat is a dullard trying to turn his competitor into what Qantas was 10 years ago.

  105. Roger

    ABC – “The latest high-profile figure to come out against Weinstein is …” (wait for it)
    “Joe Biden”.

    It’s a veritable Conga line of virtue signallers!

    And they all knew beforehand.

    “Hypocrisy is the tribute vice pays to virtue.”

  106. Snoopy

    I’m bookmarking this page. I’m sure a link to The Great 2017 Catallaxy Shark War will come in handy one day.

  107. Stimpson J. Cat

    Special video for all you Affleck lovers out there.

    Ben Affleck in his own frame.

    Hilarity.

  108. Rabz

    Thanks for the Skybus tip, Bear. Here’s hoping the bus drivers don’t take the same “freeform” approach to controlling a vehicle as your typical Mosquebourne cabbie.

  109. Senile Old Guy

    Picture of a shark’s gills.

    That taken from a presentation on dissecting a shark.

    Having dissected both fish and sharks myself (required for first year biology at the time), they are very similar and work in similar ways.

  110. Stimpson J. Cat

    I’m bookmarking this page. I’m sure a link to The Great 2017 Catallaxy Shark War will come in handy one day.

    Oh sh$t.
    Shark Talk.
    We all know what that means….

    Grigs incoming in 5…4…3…2…1…

  111. Geriatric Mayfly

    And how many snake bites result from provocation especially by the inebriated. Although I did see once, in a medical reference, a picture of a person who had ‘passed’ with two puncture marks in the bum. Taking a dump on a taipan is not advisable either.

  112. Joe

    Wikipedia (for what it’s worth):

    Sharks are a group of elasmobranch fish characterized by a cartilaginous skeleton, five to seven gill slits on the sides of the head, and pectoral fins that are not fused to the head.

    So, sharks are fish it appears.

  113. Snoopy

    Stimpy, why is Macauley Culkin’s band named as it is?

  114. Senile Old Guy

    PS my vague recollection, which might not be accurate, is that a wobby, unlike most sharks or fish, can twist its back far enough around to bite the arm to which the hand holding its tail is connected. This would come as an unpleasant surprise to the fool tormenting it.

    That was mentioned in one of the sites I visited.

    I’m bookmarking this page. I’m sure a link to The Great 2017 Catallaxy Shark War will come in handy one day.

    War? A skirmish, at best. I’m not grumpy; I’m just doing my small bit against the tide of ignorance sweeping the web.

  115. Des Deskperson

    “Is it misreporting or are ABC producers exempted from the declaration to the Senate? They have more influence over what is broadcast than the presenters.”

    Snoopy, my understanding is that details of the wages and conditions of all staff whose wages and allowances are greater than $200,000 are to be made public.

    This would seem to include all employees who are not covered by the ABC’s enterprise agreement and include producers and managers as well as ‘stars’ . Presumably it will also provide details of their ‘total remuneration packages’ – car, parking space, employee super contribution, i-phones and I-pads. These perks usually total an additional 30% to 40% of – taxpayer funded – remuneration in addition to basic salary.

    Presumably it won’t cover those – stars and producers – engaged under commercial contracts who are not technically employees. Moat other taxpayer-funded Commonwealth bodies are required to provide commercial contact details – individuals as well as companies – in their annual reports

  116. Stimpson J. Cat

    “Joe Biden”.

    Joe “It’s perfectly normal for a grown man to give another 55 year old man friendship bracelets with a slice of pizza on it.” Biden.

    Bracelet Bro’s.

  117. Des Deskperson

    ‘PS my vague recollection, which might not be accurate, is that a wobby, unlike most sharks or fish, can twist its back far enough around to bite the arm to which the hand holding its tail is connected.’

    In Victoria when I was a kiddie, we used to find wobbies curled up head to tail in lobster pots after they had eaten the lobster. Freeing them was always a fraught and risky enterprise. I was once bitten – not badly – on the leg by an ungrateful wobbie.

  118. herodotus

    ABC – “After a series of damaging domestic distractions, Donald Trump at last has something to be upbeat about”.

  119. Noodles Romanoff

    Where I live, mail posted to a destination 40 km’s to the south must first travel 400 km North to be sorted before returning the required 440 km south to the intended destination. And I don’t live in what would be regarded as a “remote” area. This is how Australia Post operates.

  120. Senile Old Guy

    Wikipedia (for what it’s worth):

    Sharks are a group of elasmobranch fish characterized by a cartilaginous skeleton, five to seven gill slits on the sides of the head, and pectoral fins that are not fused to the head.

    So, sharks are fish it appears.

    I linked to the Gnathostomata (Jawed Vertebrates) page at the Tree of Life web project because it lists its sources, such as these:

    Carroll, R. H. (1988). Vertebrate paleontology and evolution. W. H. Freeman & Co. New York.
    Forey, P. L. (1980). Latimeria: a paradoxical fish. Proceedings of the Royal Society of London, B, 208, 369-384.
    Gardiner, B. G. (1984). The relationships of placoderms. Journal of Vertebrate Paleontology, 4, 379-395.
    Goujet, D. (1984). Placoderm interrelationships: a new interpretation, with a short review of placoderm classification. Proceedings of the Linnean Society of New South Wales. 107, 211-241.
    Jarvik, E. (1977).The systematic position of acanthodian fishes. In Problems in vertebrate evolution (ed. S. M. Andrews, R. S. Miles and A. D. Walker), pp. 199-225. Academic Press, London.
    Mallatt, J. (1984). Early vertebrate evolution: pharyngeal structure and the origin of gnathostomes. Journal of Zoology, 204, 169-183.
    Miles, R. S. (1973). Relationships of acanthodians. In Interrelationships of fishes (ed. P. H. Greenwood, R. S. Miles, and C. Patterson). Zoological Journal of the Linnean Society, Supplement 1, 53, 63-103.
    Schultze, H. P. (1993). Patterns of diversity in the skull of jawed fishes. In The skull (ed. J. Hanken and B. K. Hall), Vol. 2, pp. 189-254. University of Chicago Press.
    Young, G. C. (1986). The relationships of placoderm fishes. Zoological Journal of the Linnean Society, 88, 1-57.

  121. H B Bear

    Thanks for the Skybus tip, Bear. Here’s hoping the bus drivers don’t take the same “freeform” approach to controlling a vehicle as your typical Mosquebourne cabbie.

    Well I’m still here. You’re good to go unless they hit a tram or a B double anyway.

  122. johanna

    Why would they be attacking people (unless the people annoyed them.) It just doesn’t make sense.

    The bolded bit is the key.

    Idiots see a wobby, think it is harmless, drag it round by the tail or something equally stupid, and wonder why they get bitten.

    Thanks, Boambee John, for a bit of common sense.

    If you are bitten by a Wobbie, you have almost certainly annoyed it. As I said in my comment above, people who snorkled or dived just ignored them, and it was reciprocated.

    Smart-arses who want video of them being tough guys with a shark desrve to get their balls bitten off.

  123. srr

    At least sharks are a more interesting distraction (from home truths falling on professional liars, like houses in not Kansas anymore), than corks V screw tops, but weaponry is much more sexy 🙂 –

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  124. Tel

    Having dissected both fish and sharks myself (required for first year biology at the time), they are very similar and work in similar ways.

    Bony fish can pump their gills while sitting in the one place and keep the oxygen moving.

    Sharks depend on their forward body movement to run water past their gills, and lack a pumping action.

    The oxygen transfer itself is the same either way, just a different mechanism to move the water.

  125. herodotus

    James Michener (who was generally very sympathetic to native populations) has quite a bit of info on the Commanche in his book “Texas”, and it is along the same lines of brutality revealed in that linked article above..

  126. srr

    One more –

    DEPLORABLE BIKERS 🏍 Retweeted
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    Lets see, 1911, shiny, yep, that’s pretty.
    https://twitter.com/Tactical_review/status/918397831257391105
    #handgun #gunporn

  127. Roger

    Where I live, mail posted to a destination 40 km’s to the south must first travel 400 km North to be sorted before returning the required 440 km south to the intended destination. And I don’t live in what would be regarded as a “remote” area. This is how Australia Post operates.

    The government should intervene to deliver the mail in a more cost-efficient fashion.

  128. srr

    jesse james‏Verified account @popeofwelding 14h14 hours ago

    Robin Williams as the America Flag

  129. Pedro the Ignorant

    Well, there you go.
    I always thought that sharks had to keep swimming to get their oxygen from the water.

    Not that it occupied a great deal of my thinking time.

    Urban myth?

  130. Myrddin Seren

    From the UK – which means we will probably see it here soon.

    A green ‘charity’ gives the thumbs up to the Faux Conservative Party’s latest eco-plan:

    The #CleanGrowthStrategy is here & we welcome the Government’s intention to design a new farm system that does more to tackle climate change

    Based on what we have seen governments in Australia achieve in everything else they have ‘re-designed’, I think we can confidently predict malnutrition and starvation will be Australia’s GovFarm main outcome.

    And given misanthropy sits at the heart of all greenism, starvation is probably a design feature, not an ‘unintended consequence’.

  131. Baldrick

    ABC’s Tuesday Book Club folding. Good

    Let me guess, Jennifer Byrne will be relocated somewhere else in the Socialist Collective Warehouse, safely securing her tax hoovering salary and superannuation benefits.

  132. OneWorldGovernment

    Israeli designed Tank defense.

    Despite its revolutionary design features and battle-tested capabilities, the United States Army was initially hesitant in adopting the Trophy APS, preferring instead to see how a locally produced variant performed.

    But a confluence of emerging threats coupled with a new, no-nonsense attitude adopted by Trump’s secretary of defense, James Mattis, has finally convinced the U.S. Army to adopt the Trophy APS for its M1A2 tanks, at least in limited numbers.

    According to Col. Glenn Dean, the Project Manager of the Stryker Brigade Combat Team at Combat Ground Systems, of live-fire testing at Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville, Alabama, the Israeli Trophy APS “exceeded [his] expectations.”

    He noted that during testing, he “tried to kill the Abrams tank 48 times and failed.”

    New procedures adopted by the Department of Defense allowed for a streamlined acquisitions process, bypassing the usual bureaucratic red tape resulting in quicker deployment of the Trophy.

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/268116/army-deploy-israeli-trophy-armor-system-tanks-ari-lieberman

  133. C.L.

    Overwrought …
    Jacqueline Maley has an hysterical tantrum about Tony Abbott’s speech.

  134. Roger

    The #CleanGrowthStrategy is here & we welcome the Government’s intention to design a new farm system that does more to tackle climate change

    The UK government intends to “decarbonise” the economy, including agriculture, over the next 12 years.

    Soylent Green, anyone?

  135. Rabz

    I’m bookmarking this page. I’m sure a link to The Great 2017 Catallaxy Shark War will come in handy one day.

    Pity googery wasn’t able to join in.

  136. johanna

    Well, SOG might have decided that sharks and rays are just like fish, but he is far from being in the realm of “settled science.”

    We are now getting into taxonomy, which makes any other field of science look like toy soldiers.

    Not long ago, everything I learned about my orchids was demolished by the latest fad in orchid taxonomy. They all have new names and ancestry. I have gone from being reasonably well versed to ignorant. What a masterstroke by our new experts!

    This is a wonderful racket for the participants.

    The reality is, sharks and rays are quite different from bony fish. But, the entrepreneurial biologists have to earn a living somehow. Heigh Ho!

  137. Noodles Romanoff

    The government should intervene to deliver the mail in a more cost-efficient fashion.

    They pay the CEO of Aust. Post $5.6m pa. Do you really think the Government is smart enough to devise a cost efficient mail delivery?

  138. mh

    Wow, I have never seen Ben Affleck before with more than one facial expression. This must be a career highlight

  139. notafan
    #2521891, posted on October 13, 2017 at 10:28 am
    In my wildest dreams I wouldn’t expect police to turn up to a shooting five minutes after the event

    Agreed.
    What about hotel security? Surely they could have got there in that time frame.

  140. Senile Old Guy

    If you are bitten by a Wobbie, you have almost certainly annoyed it. As I said in my comment above, people who snorkled or dived just ignored them, and it was reciprocated.

    And I cited and linked to a peer-reviewed research paper reporting unprovoked attacks. The information was obtained this way:

    The ASAF [Australian Shark Attack File] relies on a network of contacts throughout Australia, including shark researchers, scientists and managers in all Australian State Fisheries Departments, researchers at Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation (CSIRO), museum curators, university researchers, surf lifesaving organisations, underwater naturalists and film makers who assist in obtaining incident reports. Information also comes from a range of sources including print media and internet news service, State and National Library searches, on-line archival newspaper databases, official investigation reports, coronial and police reports, surf life-saving report logs and personal communication.

    Or you can believe an ex-public servant from Canberra.

    Bony fish can pump their gills while sitting in the one place and keep the oxygen moving. Sharks depend on their forward body movement to run water past their gills, and lack a pumping action.

    No, sharks which live on the bottom, such as Port Jackson sharks and wobbegongs, can pump water over their gills; otherwise, they would die. Here are Port Jackson sharks sitting on the sea floor.

  141. Myrddin Seren

    Some Twitter users demand Ben Affleck step down as Batman one month before ‘Justice League’ debut

    Some Twitter users* are calling on Ben Affleck to step down as Batman.

    The actor faces allegations that he groped women and lied by implying he did not know about Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein’s sexual misconduct.**

    The backlash comes just one month before Warner Bros. debuts “Justice League.”

    * ‘Some Twitter Users’ = carefactor zero.

    ** New Affleck nickname – Buttman. Oh Dear !

    …just one month before Warner Bros. debuts “Justice League…

    Ring, ring – click.

    ‘Hello. You have reached the marketing department of Warner Bros picture. We regret we cannot take your call right now, as we are all out getting blind rotten drunk over Buttman and the disaster this presages. Please leave a message at the tone, and if there is still anyone here on Monday, they may get back to you. Sob’

  142. Rabz

    I have never seen Ben Affleck before with more than one facial expression

    What is this “Ben Affleck” of which you speak?

  143. notafan

    Agreed.
    What about hotel security? Surely they could have got there in that time frame.

    I dunno, maybe they were told not to, why risk getting more people shot by someone who obviously had a powerful weapon in his room, iirc the wounded guard was warning people not to go on to the 32nd floor.

    I wouldn’t have expected hotel security to take on an armed person, that is for sure.

  144. Myrddin Seren

    What about hotel security? Surely they could have got there in that time frame.

    ‘Code Red, Code Red !

    Secure all the cash drawers, lock the vaults and secure all access to the vault level !’

    What about the guests ?

    ‘Oh – right. Anyone called 911 ?’

  145. Rabz

    What about hotel security? Surely they could have got there in that time frame.

    Given they’d been infiltrated by extraterrestrial lizard people and were busy administering bottom probes to other hotel guests at the time, it was obviously highly unlikely they’d be diverted.

  146. notafan

    As for the Bellagio hotel las vegas, 2.6 ks from the Mandalay no-one has claimed any shooting happened there


    No-one was ‘terrorised’ at the Bellagio, other than panic, rumour and speculation, as you would expect

  147. Senile Old Guy

    Well, SOG might have decided that sharks and rays are just like fish, but he is far from being in the realm of “settled science.” We are now getting into taxonomy, which makes any other field of science look like toy soldiers. The reality is, sharks and rays are quite different from bony fish. But, the entrepreneurial biologists have to earn a living somehow. Heigh Ho!

    Sharks and bony fish are two different types of fish, as this site I linked to states.

    johanna is simply displaying her ignorance and making statements for which she provides no proof or links.

    And making misleading statements: I never said “sharks and rays are just like [bony] fish”. She just made that up.

    Sharks and rays are cartilaginous fish (Class Chondrichthyes). Most fish are bony fish (Class Osteichthyes).

  148. It’s the “multiple locations” part of the attack that they don’t want to remind people of.

    The officially admitted constantly changing stories about MB in LV are an important part of preventing people from focusing on the other locations, such as the Bellagio, that were also terrorised, and just how unprepared most Western LEO’s are to successfully tackle multiple sleeper cells coordinating their attacks to strike multiple key locations at the same time.

    Oh USSR. You haven’t learned the lessons of #Pizzagate, have you. You are a bit of a nutcase.

  149. Tintarella di Luna

    In a piece on Harvey (not the Hurricane) in the Oz — this paragraph stood out —

    Lauren Sivan, a Fox News television reporter, claimed that when she was a presenter on a local news channel, Weinstein invited her into the empty kitchen of his Cafe Social­ista restaurant in Manhattan and, when she refused his advances, masturbated in front of her.

    Dear me I hope this didn’t occur anywhere near the vichyssoise

  150. Mother Lode

    Fish are able to expand their gullet to draw water in through the open moth, thrown contract their gullet with die mouth closed to expel it over the gills.

    Do sharks possess an analogous ability? How much oxygen do they need and how much can they keep in their blood?

    And I think cladistics is the way with biology these days, being based on evolution where the what are major branches now – such as between plants and animals – was onece, way way back, no more striking than the current distinction between a mouse and a rat.

    And. It is why birds (aves) are in the group dinorsauria, dinosaurs.

  151. Mother Lode

    Fuck, autocorrect mutilated that comment.

    I swear it is getting worse.

  152. Mother Lode

    Cafe Socialista?

    Tell me this does not mean Socialist Cafe.

  153. mh

    More Wankstein, the man Meryl Streep calls “God”

    Kate Beckinsale, 44, has joined the long list of women who say they were sexually harassed by Harvey Weinstein.

    The star revealed that she was hit on by Weinstein when she was just 17, offered alcohol and called a c**t when she turned him down.

    She wrote on Instagram that she has knocked back Weinstein many times over the years and that he loved to tell people “Kate lives to say no to me”.

  154. Rabz

    Fish are able to expand their gullet to draw water in through the open moth, thrown contract their gullet with die mouth closed to expel it over the gills.

    ML, that is bloody hilarious.

  155. Joe

    ML:

    …autocorrect mutilated that comment.

    Turn autocorrect very, very, off. Make your own mistakes.

  156. Rabz

    Indeed it is “English as she is spoke”.

  157. Senile Old Guy

    Do sharks possess an analogous ability? How much oxygen do they need and how much can they keep in their blood?

    Australian Museum:

    Port Jackson Sharks have the ability to eat and breathe at the same time. This ability is unusual for sharks, many of which need to swim with the mouth open to force water over the gills. The Port Jackson Shark can pump water into the first enlarged gill slit and out through the other four gill slits. By pumping water across the gills, the shark does not need to move to ‘breathe’. It can lie on the bottom for long periods of time, a behaviour that is observed at breeding time.

    References cited:

    Kuiter, R.H. 1993. Coastal Fishes of South-Eastern Australia. Crawford House Press. Pp. 437.
    Kuiter, R.H. 1996. Guide to Sea Fishes of Australia. New Holland. Pp. 433.
    Stevens, J.D. in Gomon, M.F., J.C.M. Glover & R.H. Kuiter (Eds). 1994. The Fishes of Australia’s South Coast. State Print, Adelaide. Pp. 992.
    Stevens, J. & P.R. Last in Paxton, J.R. & W.N. Eschmeyer (Eds). 1994. Encyclopedia of Fishes. Sydney: New South Wales University Press; San Diego: Academic Press [1995]. Pp. 240.

  158. calli

    The couple and their friends hid under a gambling table in the Bellagio hotel when the sound of gunfire from the Mandalay Bay Resort, which is 2.6km away, broke out. The equivalent distance in Hong Kong is from the Central Harbourfront to Victoria Park.

    That’s a long way for the sound to travel, loud enough to spook people.

  159. johanna

    Not getting into the taxonomy wars.

    I mean, we are in a world where a girl can be a boy. In comparison, re-classifying a non-fish as a fish is a mere bagatelle. Anything is possible.

    Has anyone watched Trawlermen on Sex Between Soccer?

    Looking at their GPS maps of other vessels, it’s a wonder that there is a single fish left in the English Channel and surrounds. He is looking at 40 odd trawlers nearby.

    Of course, they all operate under EU quotas and so on, and nobody ever breaks the rules.

    🙂

  160. jupes

    James Michener (who was generally very sympathetic to native populations) has quite a bit of info on the Commanche in his book “Texas”, and it is along the same lines of brutality revealed in that linked article above..

    Do yourself a favour and read Empire of the Summer Moon by S.C. Gwynne, the best book I’ve read this century.

    The Commanches had been waging a permanent total war ever since they tamed their first horse. They fought and defeated ALL other Indian tribes, the Spanish and then the Mexicans before any early US settlers had made it to Texas. In fact the Mexicans originally encouraged US settlers to come to Texas so they could deal with Commanches.

    Commanches were evil fuckers who didn’t take male prisoners, took children and women as slaves and used torture and rape as weapons of war. Superb cavalry soldiers though. Best in the world in the 19th century until their eventual defeat.

  161. Mother Lode

    Indeed, Nota.

    It is just another of their ways to control us – by inserting themselves surreptitiously into our interpersonal communication.

    I sent a friend a text last week, “Meet at Match Roseville at 5:00”.

    The message she received was “KILL THEM! KILL THEM ALL!”

    I took ages to placate the bar manager, and even longer to get the coagulated blood out of the carpet under the seats where people had sat.

  162. notafan

    That’s a long way for the sound to travel, loud enough to spook people.

    Yes, I loved how the pop star went into a short trance and was helped by some ‘foreigners’ too.

    I’d be surprised if they actually heard anything other than emergency vehicles.

  163. Chris

    Well that was very interesting SOG and Johanna.

  164. notafan

    The world hasn’t been the same since ‘they’ took over has it ML.

  165. H B Bear

    Jebus – if people start citing sources that is the end of the Cat.

  166. notafan

    Well done that parish priest

    “I was dead set on making sure the day wasn’t depressing,” says Chris. “We spent the day snuggled close together while we read, watched movies, played games, anything to keep our minds off the church and to keep Cady’s spirits high. It worked well.”

    Chris explains there were no regrets from Cady on missing the day, with the incident just the thing the mum needed to pull her two daughters out of the school.


    Obviously making her First Holy Communion was all about the clothes

  167. Senile Old Guy

    The message she received was “KILL THEM! KILL THEM ALL!”

    I have seen it literally happen!

  168. Chris

    Jebus – if people start citing sources that is the end of the Cat.

    Bear, H.B. 2017. Pers. comm.

  169. Mother Lode

    Bellagio?

    Sounds like something Wankstain would demand of young starlets.

    No doubt when young actresses are deliberating on which casting couch offers the best career prospects (“he Faust himself onto me!”), Wankstain said “Forget the others. I’m the Mandalay“.

  170. OneWorldGovernment

    notafan
    #2522066, posted on October 13, 2017 at 1:32 pm

    I swear it is getting worse.

    and we all know why

    But do they have gills?

  171. notafan

    I’ll ask them next time I see them OWG.

  172. Entropy

    H B Bear
    #2522089, posted on October 13, 2017 at 1:49 pm
    Jebus – if people start citing sources that is the end of the Cat.

    Maybe ‘they’ could leave the open threads as a Safe Space protected from such malicious calls to authority.

  173. Des Deskperson

    “ABC’s Tuesday Book Club folding. Good

    Let me guess, Jennifer Byrne will be relocated somewhere else in the Socialist Collective Warehouse, safely securing her tax hoovering salary and superannuation benefits.”

    I assume that Byrne is engaged under a contract with her husband Andrew Denton’s production company, whatever it is currently called. I imagine that this has a number of advantages over being a salaried employee, but, yes, she will certainly pop up again, like Micallef , Pickering, Flanagan, Josh Thomas and that flabby dark haired bint from ‘Utopia”.

    A ‘book club’, BTW, is now and has been for some time a (mildly obsolete) comic cliche involving bored and frustrated housewives and blokes pretending to be library in order to get a root.

    That anyone would take it seriously, let alone make a TV programme about a book club that wasn’t a satire shows how out of touch the ABC is.

  174. johanna

    jupes, I have a well-thumbed copy of Michener’s “Texas.” I don’t regard it as historically true in every respect, but for iggerent furriners it is an eye-opener.

    I doubt that even 10% of US citizens would know that Texas was once an independent country, and a poofteenth of a percent of Australians would know it.

    I loved Texas when I was there. There was a healthy vitality, and a degree of courtesy that left me abashed. Men stood up and raised or removed their hats when I appeared, women invited me to all sorts of events.

    But, we must remember that Texas was the birthplace of LBJ. He went out campaigning with his old man, who was a local politician, from the egg.

    In LBJ’s part of the world, there was no electricity. When he got into Congress, he created the concept of the Universal Service Obligation, which was quickly adopted in many countries. The bottom line was, his and many other families finally got connected to the grid.

    Texas is complicated, but magnificent.

  175. jupes

    Steyn currently doing some great writing on Harvey Weinstein:

    And yet the genius of liberal, progressive, Democrat Hollywood is that, under Harvey Weinstein and his pals, it can reduce powerful, successful women to the level of the poorest, most vulnerable, minimum-wage entry-level worker in Slick Willie’s Arkansas state bureaucracy. Congratulations, feminists. The lies you told yourselves during the Clinton era really paid off.

    More here.

    Interesting in the second link is that the journalist who broke the story was Ronan Farrow, son of Mia Farrow and Woody Allen. Ronan is estranged from his father and describes him thus: “He’s my father married to my sister. That makes me his son and his brother-in-law. That is such a moral transgression.” Seems like he’s got his head screwed on.

    Also of note is that Farrow worked for NBC who decided not to run with the Weinstein story so he took it to The New Yorker. There is also a rumour that Ronan is Frank Sinatra’s son.

  176. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    In case you haven’t seen Rose McGowans tweets
    accusing Jeff Bezos (Amazon) covering Harvey Weinstein rape of Rose
    here’s a recap
    https://twitter.com/ExDemLatina/status/918619231507292160

    Rose McGowan has seriously lost the plot.

  177. thefrolickingmole

    Do yourself a favour and read Empire of the Summer Moon by S.C. Gwynne, the best book I’ve read this century.

    Seconded, quite worth the read.

    “Settlers started on foot with single shot rifles and took over on horseback with 6 shooters”. was my rough memory of one of the main quotes.

    On and when I was a kid I saw a mate of my fathers lift a big wobbly by the tail for a picture. Wobby was annoyed and sung up and latched onto his armpit.
    Not a lot of damage but looked like hed fought a sewing machine.

  178. OneWorldGovernment

    notafan
    #2522100, posted on October 13, 2017 at 2:00 pm

    I’ll ask them next time I see them OWG.

    Thanks Nota.

    Still going to use the pic.

    It’s a classic.

  179. Mother Lode

    It is the Lizard people behind AGW, of course. Not being warm blooded and all.

    In addition, they are responsible for:

    The way toast lands on the floor butter-side down.

    Prime numbers

    The ‘u’ in words like ‘colour’

    Kale

    Spirit-cooked pizza

    And Mondays.

    The bastards!

  180. stackja

    jupes
    #2522110, posted on October 13, 2017 at 2:13 pm

    John Farrow
    From Wikipedia
    Farrow was born in Sydney, Australia, the son of Lucy Villiers (née Savage; 1881-1907), a dressmaker, and Joseph Farrow (1880-1925), a tailor’s trimmer.
    He had seven children by his wife, actress Maureen O’Sullivan, including actress Mia Farrow.

  181. calli

    Prime numbers

    Nooooooo! They’re my favourites!

    Whoops, did I just say that?

  182. OneWorldGovernment

    johanna
    #2522109, posted on October 13, 2017 at 2:10 pm

    jupes, I have a well-thumbed copy of Michener’s “Texas.” I don’t regard it as historically true in every respect, but for iggerent furriners it is an eye-opener.

    I doubt that even 10% of US citizens would know that Texas was once an independent country, and a poofteenth of a percent of Australians would know it.

    Johanna,

    The thing that always stuck in my mind about Texas was that at one point they had something like the 10th largest military forces in the world. I have no idea of their size these days but they are proactive.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Military_Forces
    and https://tmd.texas.gov/

    As far as Australians not knowing about Texas, and not disagreeing whether Australians would know it was an independent country, I always laugh when I meet Americans when I say we’ve got Texas in Australia!
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas,_Queensland

  183. Stimpson J. Cat

    This must be a career highlight

    Liked it better when I posted it upthread.
    Not that it’s a competition or anything.
    Although if it was I would have won.
    Easily.
    With a heroically humble demeanor that inspires awe.
    😁

  184. thefrolickingmole

    sTan Grant turns the hyper-bowl up to 12!!!

    Stan Grant has compared Indigenous cultural heritage sites such as Lake Mungo to the Sistine Chapel and said the depth and breadth of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander art “punctures” the conception of Terra nullius.

  185. calli

    Ronan Farrow may have inherited some of his grandmother’s common sense. Maureen O’Sullivan was a staunch Catholic and honoured by the church. Her bio is a stark contrast to other Hollywood actrines.

    I like this quote:

    As the matriarch of a very large family, she was asked about off-screen motherhood. ”The real way to bind children to you is to let them go,” she said. ”Clutching is no good; it simply makes them determined to be rid of you. But once they’re free, they surprisingly want to come back to you as friends.”

    Smart.

  186. Des Deskperson

    The thing that always stuck in my mind about Texas is that its State Legislature only convenes every second year.

    How this must piss off ‘progressive’ activists (presuming that there are some in Texas).

  187. Stimpson J. Cat

    Stan Grant has compared Indigenous cultural heritage sites such as Lake Mungo to the Sistine Chapel

    Yes yes, and the sound of a Didgeridoo is akin to a Stradivarius.

  188. OneWorldGovernment

    thefrolickingmole
    #2522126, posted on October 13, 2017 at 2:32 pm

    sTan Grant turns the hyper-bowl up to 12!!!

    Stan Grant has compared Indigenous cultural heritage sites such as Lake Mungo to the Sistine Chapel and said the depth and breadth of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander art “punctures” the conception of Terra nullius.

    $tan Grant had best be careful quoting Lake Mungo as an Aboriginal site as the bones had to be brought back to Australia and buried because the overseas investigators were finding out that they were not identifiable with ‘modern’ indigenous Aboriginal Australians.

    Pretty sure the “academics’ have managed to purge all references!

    He’d be better off quoting the Kow Swamp data.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kow_Swamp_Archaeological_Site

  189. Mother Lode

    sTan Grant must be referring to Lake Mungo in the same way a Japanese Bhuddist would the Sistine Chapel.

    As in not part of their own traditions.

  190. Geriatric Mayfly

    Stan Grant has compared Indigenous cultural heritage sites such as Lake Mungo to the Sistine Chapel

    Lake Mungo has four walls and a ceiling? Presumably the Rainbow Serpent in all its vibrant glory winds its way through a creation of goannas, fish, birds and other creatures, all etched into the fabric.

  191. stackja

    Sam Houston
    From Wikipedia
    Sam Houston (March 2, 1793 – July 26, 1863) was an American soldier and politician. His victory at the Battle of San Jacinto secured the independence of Texas from Mexico in one of the shortest decisive battles in modern history. He was also the only governor within a future Confederate state to oppose secession (which led to the outbreak of the American Civil War) and to refuse an oath of allegiance to the Confederacy, a decision that led to his removal from office by the Texas secession convention.

  192. jupes

    Stan Grant has compared Indigenous cultural heritage sites such as Lake Mungo to the Sistine Chapel and said the depth and breadth of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander art “punctures” the conception of Terra nullius.

    LOL

    Kindergarten level dot paintings.

  193. Myrddin Seren

    sTan Grant turns the hyper-bowl up to 12!!!

    That will be

    Ambassador Stan Grant
    of the Federated First Nations
    Representative Plenipotentiary to the Surrender Treaty of the Settler Colonialist Invaders
    $$$$$$

  194. stackja

    Lake Mungo (film) – Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Mungo_(film)
    Lake Mungo is a 2008 low budget Australian psychological horror film directed by Joel Anderson and starring Talia Zucker.

  195. srr

    It’s a magnet for the rest of UN narrative peddlers.

    It lies, and they scramble to surround it with protective cover, furiously nod obediently, leaving no room for any honest soul to walk up, tap them and say, “Yes, but why are you ignoring everything else that contradicts the steaming pile of codswallop that even the official investigators keep admitting didn’t actually happen, while not being willing or able to prove that what did, didn’t?

    Of course it doesn’t much matter what uninvolved people around the world think really happened, but it does matter if any normal people still give any of those smarmy, bullshitting, nasty little dictators of ‘right think’, any credence at all, because doing so, ignoring what your own eyes and ears testify to, simply out of fear of being singled out for bullying by cowards, is literally dangerous.

    Anyway, it all changes yet again, and the liars will simply keep declaring that that means all their previous lies are even more true now and the truth (you know, all that stuff we’re not allowed to talk about because it can’t be disproven), will always be a lie, no matter what … 🙄

    Mandalay Bay Hotel Now Begins Refuting FBI Investigation…
    Posted on October 12, 2017 by sundance

    …”We are now confident that the time stated in this report is not accurate.”…

    It just seems ridiculous the basic facts, the essential sequence of events, cannot be agreed upon almost two weeks after the Mandalay Bay Massacre took place. Following up on yesterday’s news*, now Mandalay Bay Hotels is now refuting the claims of the FBI*.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2017/10/mandalay-bay-shooting-191.jpg

    According to the latest shift in the sequence of events, the Mandalay Bay is stating the FBI have the revised timeline* wrong. Mandalay claims shooter Stephen Craig Paddock began firing into the crowd below immediately following Paddock’s shooting of their security guard Jose’ Campos. [*Note* the previously announced exclusive interview by Sean Hannity* with Campos did not happen].

    LAS VEGAS* – Mandalay Bay hotel officials said Thursday the Las Vegas gunman wounded a security guard in a hotel hallway within 40 seconds of firing into the crowd at a music festival, disputing a police timeline that put six minutes from the time the guard was shot and when Stephen Paddock committed the worst mass shooting in U.S. history.

    *Continue reading →
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/10/12/mandalay-bay-hotel-now-begins-refuting-fbi-investigation/

  196. Stimpson J. Cat

    Isn’t Stan and his crew building the Navy Submarines we will be using to patrol Lake Mungo?

  197. srr

    Bill Mitchell‏Verified account @mitchellvii 20m20 minutes ago

    We learned yesterday in the O’Keefe sting that YouTube is biased left. I can personally vouch for that.

  198. jupes

    More “puncturing the concept of terra nullius”.

  199. jupes

    Isn’t Stan and his crew building the Navy Submarines we will be using to patrol Lake Mungo?

    No that’s Adam Goodes.

  200. A Lurker

    Stan Grant has compared Indigenous cultural heritage sites such as Lake Mungo to the Sistine Chapel and said the depth and breadth of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander art “punctures” the conception of Terra nullius.

    Pre-Neolithic Sistine Chapel?
    Oh he must have meant this place.

    Or perhaps not.

  201. srr

    Scandal Explodes: Amazon Studio Chief Accused of Sexual Misconduct

    Kept High-Powered Job Despite Investigation

    Update: Suspended

    …’YOU WILL LOVE MY D**K’…

    …HE ‘STEPPED CLOSE TO HER AND LOUDLY SAID ‘ANAL SEX!”…

    …ROSE TORCHES BEZOS: ‘STOP FUNDING RAPISTS, ALLEGED PEDOS, SEXUAL HARASSERS’…

    …SHOCK REPORT: HARVEY’S CONTRACT ‘ALLOWED’ FOR SEXUAL HARASSMENT…
    ___

    All at Breitbart.

  202. srr

    YouTube Has Some Explaining To Do
    Computing Forever
    Oct 12, 2017

  203. notafan

    Someone here thinks rational people actually take the conspiracy nonsense seriously.

    I suppose referring to us lizard people as ‘its’ is fair enough.

    Of course we all know what really happened to Jesus Campos…

    Literally.

  204. Stimpson J. Cat

    No that’s Adam Goodes.

    How the hell did I get those two mixed up?
    Stan is a serious news journalist and Adam a highly respected former player.
    They look nothing alike.

    You idiot Stimpy!

  205. srr

    🅾️ 🇭 🇴 🇺 🇷 ❗ Retweeted
    Randy Quaid‏Verified account @RandyRRQuaid 8h8 hours ago

    Actors, no reason for you to ever be in a room with a fat, ugly producer without the director being present. If you are your agent’s a pimp.

  206. max

    That Steyn piece on Weinstein and Hollywood mentions Roman Polanski, now ‘in the twilight of his career.’

    Steyn: Roman in the gloamin’.

  207. srr

    JohnWickofPolitics‏ @Gingrich_of_PA 13h13 hours ago

    The U.N. is no longer an acronym, it’s a prefix. Like unneeded, unwanted and unimportant…

    https://twitter.com/Gingrich_of_PA/status/918500588031180801

  208. calli

    Speaking of Polanski, CNN’s Isha Sesay claimed Polanski’s crime okay because “it was a different time” when discussing the Pot Plant Polisher.

    I don’t recall PPP being accused of drugging and sexually assaulting a minor. But perhaps I missed something.

  209. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Ambassador Stan Grant
    of the Federated First Nations
    Representative Plenipotentiary to the Surrender Treaty of the Settler Colonialist Invaders
    $$$$$$

    I’ll bet good money that Stan Grant and Michael Mansell both see themselves in that role.

  210. Stimpson J. Cat

    Blatant Gossip from an anonymous blog that is probably not true…..

    After the Harvey Weinstein scandal , I have head that there are several big news outlets that are prepared to expose three other Hollywood honchos: that kid show producer, that openly gay director who escaped charges in the past and the biggest one of all: that billionaire mogul who has had buildings named after him. I don’t know when these accusations will start appearing in rapid succession, or if they will appear at all, but after the Weinstein fracas it will probably be sooner than later.

  211. srr

    Bill Mitchell‏Verified account @mitchellvii 9h9 hours ago

    Vanity Fair, WAPO, NYTimes, CNN, NBC – they all just make stuff up and report it as news. Yes, they should have their licenses evaluated.

  212. max

    Polanski drugged a kid, then had anal sex with her twice.

  213. notafan

    Don’t let the cheers in the Catalan Parliament fool you. There’s been a full-blooded retreat from the separatists.

    After rowdy demonstrations, a covert referendum (which drew a violent response from Spanish police) and vows to set up a new republic, Catalan President Carles Puigdemont blinked.


    Catalan’s President blinks, and we all know what that means.

  214. Myrddin Seren

    I’ll bet good money that Stan Grant and Michael Mansell both see themselves in that role.

    As no doubt do dozens and dozens of others.

    So in the first instance there will be a Yuuge taxpayer funded ‘Embassy’ built in Canberra, with suitable accommodation procured in the Embassy districts for the dozens of Ambassadors.

    There will be a Treaty Negotiation Annex built at Parliament House. To become the First Nations Parliamentary Veto Compound in due course.

    And a massive Cultural Centre built on the shores of Lake Burley Griffen, so the Ambassadors and their staff can maintain connection with Country.

    And then they will go all Bolshevik with each other to see who can climb to the top of the Ka-ching Heap $.

    You will know we are reaching the end-state when Nick Xenaphon returns from Adelaide to offer his services as a Tony Blair-like ‘facilitator’.

  215. Myrddin Seren

    After the Harvey Weinstein scandal , I have head that there are several big news outlets that are prepared to expose three other Hollywood honchos

    All right, Mr. DeMille, I’m ready for my close-up“,

    will never quite mean the same thing post-Harvey.

  216. notafan

    Fracas at Moreland council meeting

    Neil Erikson, a supporter of the United Patriots Front, joined far-right group Patriot Blue on Wednesday night to storm the council meeting.
    He told AAP he would not press charges against the Moreland mayor for allegedly shoving him because she’s ‘pretty good looking’.


    JC’s kinda guy

  217. srr

    Free Australian‏ @den2114 7m7 minutes ago

    ISLAM CONQUERS GERMANY: Police do not allow a woman with a dog to enter Muslim area #AusPol

    https://twitter.com/den2114/status/918692797321953280

  218. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    There will be a Treaty Negotiation Annex built at Parliament House. To become the First Nations Parliamentary Veto Compound in due course.

    And the High Court will be booked solid for the next fifty years as the sub branch of various clans decide that they won’t be bound by a treaty that they had no part in negotiating, and the next demand will be for a sovereign Aboriginal nation..

  219. Roger

    And a massive Cultural Centre built on the shores of Lake Burley Griffen, so the Ambassadors and their staff can maintain connection with Country.

    Nope…it’s not their country unless they are of the Ngunawal “nation”.

    They can’t have it both ways – you can be Australian and an heir to the rights and privileges of citizenship or you can identify as a member of a specific kinship group (“nation”) linked to a specific tract of land (“country”) by animistic beliefs passed on through oral tradition.

    Choose, but think wisely before you do.

  220. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Stan Grant has compared Indigenous cultural heritage sites such as Lake Mungo to the Sistine Chapel

    Twist your head sideways and squint hard while the sun is directly in front you.

  221. OneWorldGovernment

    Surely you have to vote YES in Australia’s Sexual Sodomy Marriage debacle.

    Who cares that the ‘gubmint’ is sending us down the toilet with increasing restrictive laws, taxes and expenditure.

    I think we should eliminate all electoral boundaries so that if you want to stand for parliament you will have to campaign across your State.

    And let us cut in Half the number of Senators and have each State Government appoint their own representative Senators whom change with each State Election.

  222. Boambee John

    Roger

    One of the great disputes among the indigenous “community” in the ACT concerns the spelling of Ngunawal, or is that Ngunnawal?

    May have been resolved by now.

  223. srr

    Tommy Robinson 🇬🇧 Retweeted
    Cameron Gray‏Verified account @Cameron_Gray 13h13 hours ago
    Cameron Gray Retweeted Washington Examiner

    In 2007, still Columbia president Bollinger introduced then Iran president Ahmadinejad

    In 2017, @TRobinsonNewEra is too much

    Got it

    Washington ExaminerVerified account @dcexaminer

    “Anti-fascist” Columbia University protesters shut down Skype lecture http://washex.am/2wQe7Nu by @emilyjashinsky

  224. Roger

    One of the great disputes among the indigenous “community” in the ACT concerns the spelling of Ngunawal, or is that Ngunnawal?

    May have been resolved by now.

    Given that indigenous language was entirely oral, I’m calling out the cultural appropriation!

  225. John Constantine

    Has billy shorten yet been nominated to do a tribute selfie, topless with a Richmond premiership medal?.

    Be a point of difference with trumble.

  226. OneWorldGovernment

    Roger
    #2522169, posted on October 13, 2017 at 3:32 pm

    They can’t have it both ways – you can be Australian and an heir to the rights and privileges of citizenship or you can identify as a member of a specific kinship group (“nation”) linked to a specific tract of land (“country”) by animistic beliefs passed on through oral tradition.

    Choose, but think wisely before you do.

    Alternatively,

    Get your spears and boomerangs and line up.

    We will get our guns and line up.

    Then we will f*king invade your space, create genocide and when the last rapest ‘didge is pissing his pants we will shut down every single remote taxpayer funded ‘settlement’.

    $tan Grant. Remember your Father.

  227. jupes

    Polanski drugged a kid, then had anal sex with her twice.

    Yeah but it wasn’t rape-rape.

  228. srr

    Paul Joseph Watson‏Verified account @PrisonPlanet 5h5 hours ago

    There are at least 100 active [email protected] in Hollywood.

    The Weinstein scandal is the tip of the iceberg.

    https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/918629179318562816

  229. Geriatric Mayfly

    Tits has a new bestie.

    Shorten a ‘fantastic team leader’
    Anthony Albanese and Bill Shorten
    Anthony Albanese put on a united front with Bill Shorten after leaked party research hurt the Labor leader.

  230. Baldrick

    Human Rights for me, but not my victims:

    Isa Islam filed a civil claim against prison authorities in the ACT Supreme Court last month, arguing their management of inmates’ food requests and photocopying practices were at odds with the Human Rights Act.

    Islam, a former street preacher, bashed a fellow inmate at the Alexander Maconochie Centre in 2013. The victim was hospitalised for four weeks, including five days intubated in intensive care. That bashing occurred while Islam was behind bars for paralysing a victim in a frenzied stabbing attack outside an Ainslie takeaway shop in 2008. He was found guilty of inflicting grievous bodily harm, and was sentenced to nine years with a non-parole period of 4½ years.

    In the latest proceedings, Islam, who is self-represented, argued the prison’s management of detainees’ food requests was inadequate and breached the ACT’s Human Rights Act.
    In a separate claim, Islam took issue with the prison’s printing practices and sought an order to make authorities stop charging inmates 20 cents per page to print educational material, or allow inmates a certain amount of free printing.

  231. srr

    Paul Joseph Watson‏Verified account @PrisonPlanet 13h13 hours ago

    The once monolithic left is starting to lose some key battles in the culture war and their panic is palpable.

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