Who cares if NKorea EMP would kill “90% of Americans”?

MCGOWAN ACCUSES BEZOS OF HARASSMENT COVERUP
‘WON DIRTY OSCAR’
AMAZON SUSPENDS STUDIO CHIEF

That’s the lead story at Drudge and everywhere. Meanwhile this hardly gets a mention:

Congress warned: NKorea EMP would kill ‘90% of Americans’…
Mysterious absence of ‘rocket men’…
Earthquake sparks concern of another nuke test…

How about a bit more detail:

William R. Graham, chairman of the former EMP commission and its former chief of staff, Peter Vincent Pry, said that the U.S. has ignored the warning signs for years and that North Korea’s military moves this year must be seen as a wake-up call.

They said:

Just six months ago, most experts thought North Korea’s nuclear arsenal was primitive, some academics claiming it had as few as 6 A-Bombs. Now the intelligence community reportedly estimates North Korea has 60 nuclear weapons.

Just six months ago, most experts thought North Korea’s ICBMs were fake, or if real could not strike the U.S. mainland. Now the intelligence community reportedly estimates North Korea’s ICBMs can strike Denver and Chicago, and perhaps the entire United States.

Just six months ago, most experts thought North Korea was many years away from an H-Bomb. Now it appears North Korea has H-Bombs comparable to sophisticated U.S. two-stage thermonuclear weapons.

Just six months ago, most experts claimed North Korean ICBMs could not miniaturize an A-Bomb or design a reentry vehicle for missile delivery. Now the intelligence community reportedly assesses North Korea has miniaturized nuclear weapons, and has developed reentry vehicles for missile delivery, including by ICBMs that can strike the U.S.

This ought to be beyond politics, but I guess nothing is beyond politics. You would still think that this is more important than Harvey Weinstein but it’s not, or at least not yet.

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50 Responses to Who cares if NKorea EMP would kill “90% of Americans”?

  1. stackja

    Life imitating art:

    Electromagnetic pulse in popular culture
    From Wikipedia

  2. stackja

    As someone here posted, Paddock Las Vegas not reported much either.

  3. Tel

    Meanwhile this hardly gets a mention:

    Congress warned: NKorea EMP would kill ‘90% of Americans’…

    … because no one believes it.

    We have already been through the WMD schtick. Who exactly is “the intelligence community”, this supposedly singular entity? Anyone we can prosecute later if they get it wrong? Anyone in there with that old “skin in the game” factor? I think not.

  4. Bruce of Newcastle

    We’re on the case!

    Julie Bishop and Marise Payne visit tense Korean border at Demilitarised Zone (today)

    FOREIGN Minister Julie Bishop and Defence Minister Marise Payne have visited the heavily fortified border between the two Koreas, saying they are hopeful there will be no need for military action against North Korea over its weapons programs.

    They made the comments after their visit to the Korean border village of Panmunjom.

    Maybe Ms Payne can offer advice to the Norks on our awesome ADF which recruits only women and buys lots and lots of extremely deadly vapourware.

  5. RobK

    … because no one believes it.
    …and if true, it’s too bloody late, learn to live with it.

  6. RobK

    Either way the purported intelligence is not as good as it’s portrayed.

  7. Zatara

    Just six months ago,…. blah blah blah.

    Amazing coincidence that all those revelations happened right after the inauguration. Or perhaps not, since before that “most experts” were going along with the Obama program and telling us what he wanted them to tell us.

    Obama administration knew about North Korea’s miniaturized nukes

    Tuesday’s bombshell Washington Post story that the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) has determined North Korea is capable of constructing miniaturized nuclear weapons that could be used as warheads for missiles – possibly ICBMs – left out a crucial fact: DIA actually concluded this in 2013. The Post also failed to mention that the Obama administration tried to downplay and discredit this report at the time.

  8. Tel

    Maybe Ms Payne can offer advice to the Norks on our awesome ADF which recruits only women and buys lots and lots of extremely deadly vapourware.

    Death by uncontrollable laughter, one of the few things Fat Boy Rocket Trousers could be defeated by, and he wouldn’t even see it coming. You are onto something there Bruce.

  9. Trader Perth

    They said:

    Just six months ago, most experts thought ,……..4 paragraphs all beginning with the same sentence. I don’t believe the ‘experts’.

  10. jupes

    Maybe Ms Payne can offer advice to the Norks on our awesome ADF which recruits only women and buys lots and lots of extremely deadly vapourware.

    I have it on good authority that Tubbsy has advised the South Koreans that diversity is a strength and that rather than spending money on weapons and such, they would be far better off spending it on sex-change operations and recruiting freaks of no specific gender.

  11. Neenee

    Could this be an irresistible opportunity for Rocket-boy to prove the capability of his wares against a much closer target?

    The White House has now confirmed Donald Trump will be taking a five country Asian trip from November 3-14. It also confirmed he will attend the 31st ASEAN Summit held at Clark (the former US Base), Philippines from November 10th through the 14th.

  12. Oh come on

    I dunno, Steve. Matt Drudge is the most powerful and influential person in the media/entertainment landscape. Andrew Breitbart, who famously and astutely observed that “culture is upstream from politics”, slightly less famously described himself as “Matt Drudge’s bitch” before starting his own news outlet. So Matt Drudge knows more than a thing or two when it comes to what’s newsworthy.

    Little Fatty Kim sabre-rattling – yep, that’s big news. But one of the commanding heights of culture that’s been a leftist fortress for decades is imploding. The powerbrokers and A-listers who run Hollywood remind me of the Saudi royal family, and they’re in the process of clawing each others’ faces off. The chance of NK attacking the US remains remote, but Hollywood’s influence over Western culture will never recover.

    The sacking and potential destruction of Hollywood will easily be the left’s greatest loss in the culture wars thus far. It’s really big news.

  13. Just six months ago, most experts thought

    Six months is a long time in intelligence assessments, LGBT, and long enough for the Climate to Change from Holocene LA to Postmodern NY. We are doomed unless we seize our last chance to spend a lot of money, quickly and now.

  14. Kim is an attention seeker. He needs to escalate and find a Hollywood starlet to take advantage of.

  15. John Constantine

    Their united nations still funding the norks?.

    Never let a chance go by, Comrades.

  16. Tel

    Kim is an attention seeker. He needs to escalate and find a Hollywood starlet to take advantage of.

    Don’t joke, his regime has a history of kidnapping and trafficking. I’m surprised that an NK ship is still allowed on the ocean at all.

  17. Paul

    Trump comes along and shows most of these experts are fakes, just political hacks.
    Obama has a lot to answer for.

  18. FOREIGN Minister Julie Bishop and Defence Minister Marise Payne have visited the heavily fortified border between the two Koreas, saying they are hopeful there will be no need for military action against North Korea over its weapons programs.

    I bet they got selfies.

    Because this is important.

  19. Mysterious absence of ‘rocket men’…

    They’ve been killed.

    Either by Rocket Man, in which he has lost a chunk of what little authority, and fear he conveys, left, or…

    By Trump and his acolytes.

    I have it on good authority it is the latter. Fat Boy Kim spectacularly failed to make a big statement on the party’s anniversary. Why?

    Theory is that Trump has, through his broad alliances, has developed joint capability to undermine North Korea itself.

    From the inside. What was the magnitude 2.9 earthquake?

    It was either a MOAB or a Rod from God. A MOAB would’ve required the provable violation of North Korean airspace, with retaliation from either North Korea or China. A Rod from God is the perfect “where the fuck did that come from?” weapon, and has the added bonus of destroying underground bunkers to a great depth.

    Theory is that the South Koreans, with help from the Yanks and their allies, have infiltrated and killed those missing generals. Kim is impervious to assassination, but those around around cannot have the same level of protection Kim has.

    Who else could infiltrate the Norks other than South Koreans? Who trained them, and who can they achieve the required technology and capability from?

    Trump has learned from Joh Bjelke-Petersen. He feeds the chooks with stories like, say, Harvey Weinstein. The real action is opaque.

    Remember, lefties are all talk and no action of value. Trump owns them by doing the opposite. They make him look like a genius.

  20. John Constantine

    Coat president kim in warm chocolate flavoured lard, roll him in fifty dollar notes and release the snuffling and merciless skeletor Bishop and Payne, the Empress of Blandings.

    It would be like throwing a cow into a river full of piranha.

  21. FOREIGN Minister Julie Bishop and Defence Minister Marise Payne have visited the heavily fortified border between the two Koreas, saying they are hopeful there will be no need for military action against North Korea over its weapons programs.

    Two silly barren cows.

  22. Barry 1963

    Trump says NK breaks nuclear deals and can’t be trusted, then Trump breaks the Iran nuclear deal!

  23. Entropy

    You just embarrassed yourself withat little bit of retarded equivalence there, Bazza.

  24. sfw

    So Sinc

    Do you think that your choice for POTUS the wretched Hilary, would be doing better than Trump with this situation? If so how? If she followed Obamas methods she would just pay them off, if she did her Libya thing….well that is something I don’t like to think about.

    So how do you think she and her sort of elite would handle it?

  25. Entropy

    Curious, why is it pretty much only Weinstein that is being exposed as a casting couch serpent? You can’t tell me he isn’t the only top of the tree monster behaving like that. Would it be uncharitable to speculate that before it gathered a life of its own, it was business, a power play, and “going to the mattresses ” has an extra bit of irony to the current brouhaha.

  26. Tel

    Trump says NK breaks nuclear deals and can’t be trusted, then Trump breaks the Iran nuclear deal!

    The unconstitutional non-treaty that never went through proper process.

    Why should anyone trust Obama’s personal promise? Why should Trump care?

  27. Helen

    I think most of the world lives in a bubble.

  28. Dr Fred Lenin

    The Norks send a rocket over the Sea of Japan , you destroy it in the air and send a bigger rocket back to the launching site ,and blow it and the scientists to bits ,you inform the communist media media the Nork rocket malfunctioned ,we don’t know why. An overflying US bomber on observation ,accidentally drops a few MOABs on the mad fat bastards palaces ,and the place he stores his generals , they do t move much, It’s all those medals , restricts movement you see . Reminds me of the old Soviet generals in Parades, old infirm men covered in medals ,witj]h a young strong soldier holding theIr belt from behind ,so they didn’t fall over .”socialism “the natural home of pretentious Tossers ,’

  29. egg_

    The Beer Whisperer
    #2522409, posted on October 13, 2017 at 10:06 pm

    if NKorea EMP would kill “90% of Americans”

    A big “if”.
    If it were evenly remotely possible, some (ME) tard would have tried it somewhere, somehow, by now.

  30. egg_

    Mysterious absence of ‘rocket men’…

    They’ve been killed.

    +1

    Any smart ‘Hawk” would have kneecapped the SOB by now.

  31. Myrddin Seren

    …if NKorea EMP would kill “90% of Americans”

    A big “if”.

    I grant, these guys are possibly pumping their tyres a bit.

    The point is, it is not the pulse itself which kills. It is the frying of all the electrical circuits, transformers, generators, computers etc etc.

    They are postulating a sort of ‘Walking Dead’ scenario where no fresh water unless you live next to a source, no food deliveries, no refineries, no power, no heat. And if it was the entire North American continent – the lead time for new kit – would be more than a year. In the meantime – a thinning of the herd occurs.

    If it were evenly remotely possible, some (ME) tard would have tried it somewhere, somehow, by now.

    You have to have nukes and rockets capable of lifting the same in to orbital heights. Most terrorists and terror states fortunately lack both at present. ( see Trump.D. – revocation of Obama Iranian nuke surrender deal ).

    Good discussion from E.M. Smith here. Including how an aggressor might set up an EMP capability stealthily under the guise of a satellite program.

  32. egg_

    electrical circuits, transformers, generators, computers etc etc.

    My specialisation…

  33. Oh come on

    Don’t joke, his regime has a history of kidnapping and trafficking.

    Be still my beating heart. Imagine if Fatty Kim started pinching the overprivileged, oblivious retards who live along, say, Malibu Beach? Please make it happen.

  34. Tel

    OCO: the way of the world, the strong tend to victimize the weak, because efficiency.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korean_abductions_of_South_Koreans

    BTW: If Trump ever felt the inclination to fully unleash the Kaiju against the North Koreans he could always order the withdrawal of all US troops from Japan.

  35. Helen

    The rocket men are missing = the Chinese did it.

  36. John Constantine

    Their hussein obama funded the norks to develop EMP weapons deliverable to America, because it was an option to achieve the fundemental transformation of the country he hated.

    Kill 90% of Americans [ literally Nazis], leaving the infrastructure basically intact, then import three hundred million third world peasants to do a Great Replacement. [ the great dream of Australias left as well]
    Their hussein obama wins, regardless of whether it is Iran or North Korea that uses his funding to nuke all the racists.

  37. John Constantine

    The open secret of their left is the utter willingness to sacrifice uncounted megadeaths of their own kind to strike an eternal blow for the Will of Stalin.

  38. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Has anyone actually proven an EMP? The largest ‘EMP’ typically encountered today are the ones that eminate from the sky and are accompanied by thunder, unless I am missing something.

  39. egg_

    Has anyone actually proven an EMP?

    Largely hypothetical IIRC – hence, the CAGW-like hysteria.

  40. Fat Tony

    egg_
    #2523046, posted on October 14, 2017 at 3:46 pm

    Has anyone actually proven an EMP?

    Largely hypothetical IIRC – hence, the CAGW-like hysteria.

    Look up Starfish Prime nuclear test – EMPs are not hypothetical

  41. harry buttle

    Nelson Kidd-Players
    #2523022, posted on October 14, 2017 at 3:14 pm
    Has anyone actually proven an EMP?

    Yes, proved, demonstrated, weaponised and miniaturised.

    Starfish Prime was the first (accidental) test, but CHAMP is a US drone carrying a Raytheon EMP device capable of targeting individual buildings.

  42. egg_

    Sigh.

    egg_
    #2256738, posted on January 9, 2017 at 7:03 pm
    far more likely (predictable) cataclysmic events?

    IMHO we have more to fear from the type of loons who set off ‘Starfish Prime’ than anything else.

    It had an effect on unshielded satellite electronics at the time (its aim) – but only as they transitioned the zone – but so much stuff is shielded now due to wireless technology.

  43. egg_

    This technology marks a new era in modern-day warfare. … In the near future, this technology may be used to render an enemy’s electronic and data systems useless even before the first troops or aircraft arrive.”

    Sounds like the CAGW threat.

  44. harry buttle

    “It had an effect on unshielded satellite electronics at the time (its aim) – but only as they transitioned the zone – but so much stuff is shielded now due to wireless technology.”

    Not even close egg – read up on EMP, the sort of shielding that is required is so far beyond what it takes to shield items from wireless tech that it is incredible. the power levels involved are vastly different and the frequencies involved are different (which changes what constitutes effective shielding).
    EMP is a threat, much of the issue is the destruction of the power grid in exactly the same way as a Carrington event would, except with an extra pulse that will fry electronics that isn’t connected to the grid.

  45. egg_

    EMP is a threat, much of the issue is the destruction of the power grid in exactly the same way as a Carrington event would, except with an extra pulse that will fry electronics that isn’t connected to the grid.

    Yup.
    Show me the evidence next time you get some, meanwhile my panties will remain dry.

  46. Tel

    Show me the evidence …

    https://youtu.be/Aj54FcI7_dE

    That’s not a nuke (obviously) I believe it’s a compulsator which is basically a way to transfer energy out of a flywheel and into a magnetic loop. Also note that he drives the car right into the middle of a big array of strung out coils so it must have been hit with the worst of the pulse. Even then the simple electrical parts are still working (like the 12V window motors and basic rocker switch). Because most modern cars are running on a micro-controller they are easy to disable in this way. An older car would be fine, but probably would need to be at least 20 years old to avoid that micro-controller.

  47. Nelson Kidd-Players

    Mind you, that’s a 1992-1995 model Taurus used in the demonstration. I’d expect almost all more-modern cars to be more robust.

    I’m aware some cars used to have ‘difficulties’ when passing the Chatswood Resivior on the Pacific Highway near Mowbray Road. The transmission antenna, combined with the water tanks, apparently concentrates an electric field across the highway. Strange things were known to happen, such as stalling cars, but generally things would come good when the car was moved out of the field.

  48. Gengis

    Only got half way through the comments but no one knows (even me) what Kim will do. But remember he is surrounded by syncophants and could do anything. Lets paint a senario that he builds 100 bombs and perfects missiles to carry them. Then says’ I want South Korea’ what do you left wing loverliees, socialist pricks do then. Give it to him or blow the world up?
    Just thinkin,

  49. duncanm

    Has anyone actually proven an EMP? The largest ‘EMP’ typically encountered today are the ones that eminate from the sky and are accompanied by thunder, unless I am missing something.

    Starfish Prime test (1.4 MT at 400km altitude) knocked out a couple of satellites and stuff in Hawaii 1500km away…. and it wasn’t even designed to do so.

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