Go on, what’s the plan to deal with Iran and North Korea?

I won’t say they won’t get him in the end, but he’s been everything I had hoped for, and for good measure he’s doing a damn site better than Malcolm and Theresa. Yet here we have a typical MSM bit of insanity: ‘The incredible shrinking President’: Republicans look forward to life without Trump. Here’s the key para:

“I’m not willing to say it would have been preferable to have had a President Hillary Clinton, but it would have been better for the GOP if any of the other 16 Republican primary candidates had won. The Republican party is completely at sea. With Trump, we can’t get anything done. There is no trust; no strategy. In terms of our foreign policy, America is at its lowest ebb. Allies can’t rely on us; no one knows where we stand. We’re in a dark cellar. It’s hard to think of a more dangerous moment.”

As if any of the other 16 could have won, never mind how wet and useless each and every one would have been. Well let us compare the above sentiment with this: Trump’s Iran Fury.

President Trump’s refusal to certify that Iran is complying with its nuclear deal came after he “threw a fit,” according to a source of the Washington Post. The president was, the Post reported, “incensed by the arguments of Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, and others that the landmark 2015 deal, while flawed, offered stability and other benefits.” That left Mr. Trump, the Post’s source said, “furious. Really furious.”

Well, why shouldn’t Mr. Trump have been furious? The Post seems to suggest that he is somehow unstable, a line that’s being hawked by the New York Times. By our lights he was right to blow his celebrated stack. He had run for president, after all, on a bright line promise to exit the Iran deal. The deal itself was entered into by President Obama and Secretary Kerry with the full knowledge that both houses of Congress were against it.

Not only that, they plunged ahead in the face of warnings by, in Israel, our closest ally in the Middle East. Nor was it just Israel’s right-of-center government led by Prime Minister Netanyahu. It was also the left-of-center opposition, the Zionist Union, which warned against the appeasement. Yet someone in the Obama administration — our own theory is that it was the president, though Secretary Kerry denied that — set down Israel’s leader as “chickenshit.”

Plus, too, Messrs. Obama and Kerry took the aforementioned articles of appeasement and brought them to New York City, where they asked the United Nations Security Council to approve the deal. They voted in the Security Council against what they knew to be the wishes of our own United States Congress. So where did Secretaries Tillerson and Mattis come off trying to maneuver Mr. Trump into certifying a deal he’d specifically opposed in his campaign?

And lest we forget, there is this:

NKorea calls Trump ‘strangler of peace’…
UPDATE: ‘Readies missile launch’ ahead of US-South naval drill….

Well, go on you big mouths – give me the plan to deal with Iran and North Korea. Make a suggestion, formulate a plan, sketch out the end point of a proper crafted policy program. It’s all these moronic Monday morning quarterbacks who will tell you how the Nazis should have been stopped in 1936 etc but have not a single idea about what to do about the problems we actually have right this minute, today, in this world, the one we are living in at the present moment in the actual here and now.

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28 Responses to Go on, what’s the plan to deal with Iran and North Korea?

  1. harry buttle

    North Korea, inform China that if North Korea retains a nuclear capability in 3 months the USA will formally recognise Taiwan and sign a mutual defence treaty, S Korea and Japan will be invited and assisted to develop independent nuclear capabilities.

    re Iran, inform Israel that they have a free hand and that any assistance the US can provide will be given.

  2. C.L.

    Trump ‘strangler of peace’…

    Good. We don’t want peace with North Korea.

  3. Steve, these Monday ‘experts’ would have been cheering the Munich agreement from the rooftops. They would have called any intervention two years earlier ‘warmongering’. They are hacks.

  4. OneWorldGovernment

    What absolutely pissed me off was the Useless merry magic marxists’ Rules of Engagement for armed forces.

    And out fuckwit Australian ‘gummint’ bought into the thing!

    We will give you a gun but if you shoot anyone you are convicted.

    How about we shoot dead the stinking evil imams and blow the fuck out of their mosques?

    Whatever country the arzholhes pretend to live in.

  5. OneWorldGovernment

    Why hasn’t the useless ASIO prick stopped Hastie’s recent comments?

  6. OneWorldGovernment

    Why hasn’t the useless ASIO prick stopped Hastie’s recent comments?

    As he was previously directed by Turnbull!

  7. Tom

    Steve, the first article you quote was written by Toby Harnden, the most Trump-deranged of Ruperdink Mudrock’s Washington activists for the London Times group — in this case the Sunday Times. All he has done for the past year is ensure he will never get an original story out of Washington as his flaming Never-Trump insanity ensures no-one in the current administration will ever trust him. The Times’ other guy in Washington, Rhys Blakely, is equally Trump-deranged. A prudent group editor-in-chief would ensure he has at least one reporter in Washington who isn’t actively campaigning for the impeachment of the US president.

    Journalism is so fucked in 2017 it seems quaint to remind journalists the that they have a code of ethics. The 80% of journalists who aren’t following it have guaranteed that what we now know as the mainstream media has no future.

    Needless to say, any leftoid ignoramus who thinks Mudrock is some sort of hands-on anti-left firebrand needs to look at the free reign he is giving to the Times, the flagship of his UK empire, which is so far left on US affairs it reads like a student rag. In my opinion, he is too hands-off for his own good.

  8. struth

    This is a subject the average Joe looks at and sides with the president.
    It only exposes left wing TDS amongst journalists more.
    Of course I should again state that this is the case in the USA and not in Australia where a politically detached and apathetic population regurgitate any Marxist socialist bullshit it’s told.

  9. John Constantine

    Their hussein obama had a simple plan to deal with Iran and the norks.

    Deal with the united nations to arrange enough food to be supplied to the norks to keep the army from stealing all the peasants food, so the nuclear program could continue fully funded.

    Supply Iran with all the cash they need, so they could ‘suspend’ their domestic Iranian nuclear program and fund the norks to continue the nork program and own a share of the weapons Iranian financing created.

    Like the house of saud financed the Pakistani nuclear program.

    Their hussein obama doesn’t care how all the racists of America are genocided and room freed up for mass third world replacement immigration, just as long as he sees the changeover from his injustice league headquarters safely located in Hawaii.

  10. John Constantine

    Their hussein obama felt he had to refund the Iranians the cost of all the Iranian supplied IED’s that slaughtered and maimed so many young Americans.

  11. stackja

    It’s all these moronic Monday morning quarterbacks who will tell you how the Nazis should have been stopped in 1936 etc but have not a single idea about what to do about the problems we actually have right this minute, today, in this world, the one we are living in at the present moment in the actual here and now.

    June 4, 1940

    Nevertheless, our thankfulness at the escape of our Army and so many men, whose loved ones have passed through an agonizing week, must not blind us to the fact that what has happened in France and Belgium is a colossal military disaster.

    We have found it necessary to take measures of increasing stringency, not only against enemy aliens and suspicious characters of other nationalities, but also against British subjects who may become a danger or a nuisance should the war be transported to the United Kingdom.

    We shall go on to the end, we shall fight in France, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our Island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender, ..

  12. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Take. Out. Kim. By fair means, i.e. pressuring China, or foul, whatever that is.
    It’s what should have been done with Hitler. Serious madmen need to be removed.
    And this doesn’t include Trump, although the MSM think that it does.
    Then Trump starts negotiating with whoever is left after the squabbling for power ends.

  13. rickw

    Take. Out. Kim. By fair means, i.e. pressuring China, or foul, whatever that is.
    It’s what should have been done with Hitler. Serious madmen need to be removed.
    And this doesn’t include Trump, although the MSM think that it does.
    Then Trump starts negotiating with whoever is left after the squabbling for power ends.

    Trump only needs to nail fatty good and hard and then suddenly to morons running Iran will become a lot more reasonable. Trump needs to make an example and fatso is at the front of the queue.

  14. jonesy

    The PRK is the solely, wholey owned subsidiary of the PRC. If it wasn’t for China the Korean war would have been over when Macarthur’s army reached the Yalu River. North Korea is China’s baby!

    Iran must be “urged” to destroy their gas centrifuges. No centrifuges, no enriched uranium, no plutonium! They must also be urged to hand over their stockpile to their mates in Moscow. If ever there is a need for Malt Salt Reactors it is to stop proliferation. Fast breeder reactors only have one purpose…to make plutonium!

  15. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Trump should cancel the licence of Bezo’s blog wapo and teach these commies a thing or two about their relentless gaslighting of the public.

  16. Boambee John

    jonesey

    Plutonium is produced in chemical reprocessing plants, not centrifuges.

  17. pbw

    Boambee John,

    Enriched uranium first, then plutonium?

  18. Tom

    Trump only needs to nail fatty good and hard and then suddenly to morons running Iran will become a lot more reasonable. Trump needs to make an example and fatso is at the front of the queue.

    Great point, rickw. I trust Mattis and McMaster are war-gaming the Korea problem as we speak. The military option will be required to remove Kim, who will become more and more irrational as sanctions bite, IMO.

  19. Boambee John

    pbw

    Only in the sense of using low enriched uranium as reactor fuel, burned for a short time, then reprocessed to extract the plutonium.

  20. Diogenes

    Take. Out. Kim. By fair means, i.e. pressuring China, or foul, whatever that is.
    It’s what should have been done with Hitler. Serious madmen need to be removed.

    And who would he be replaced by? Much of the politburo is just as hardline, if not quite so unpredictable.

    If the Allies had taken Hitler out in, say 1936, he would have been replaced by Reichsmarshall Meier, the Poisoned Dwarf, the Chicken Farmer, or the Prisoner of Spandau ( I have had comments go into moderation in the past using their real names but you will know who I mean) . Of the 4 named RM Meier would have been the most benign, but given the Chicken Farmer’s powerbase, would you really have wanted Heydrich as head of the SS in 1937 ?

  21. Kneel

    “Well, go on you big mouths – give me the plan to deal with Iran and North Korea.”

    Use the foot-and-mouth solution – viz, if there is no foot-and-mouth, there won’t be any.

    A smoking crater where NK used to be would certainly give any other would-be-if-they-could-be tinpot dictator pause to consider at least listening to the “worlds policeman” and the consequences of completely ignoring them on a continuous basis for several decades.

    This does not need to be nuclear – kinetic energy weapons (“smart” orbiting crowbars, with just enough delta-v on-board to perform a de-orbit on command) can do a lot of damage with NO issues of poison, radioactive clouds and the like (destroyed target contents withstanding, of course).

    F*ck ’em. Blow ’em up. Send ’em to meet their maker. Then say to Iran “Well, that’s that for them. How are you doing?” They’ll fold faster than superman on laundry day.

  22. Barry 1963

    Remember, the US broke the last NK deal by not delivering 2 light water reactors and fuel oil. Diplomacy can and does work. The Iranian deal has been successful till now and the previous NK deal worked until the US walked away from it. I don’t like the regimes in NK or Iran, and I like the US, but war would be stupid. How did Iraq work out?

  23. Kneel;

    They’ll fold faster than superman on laundry day.

    *Snork.*

  24. Irreversible

    Kates: North Korea loves Trump. He is giving them what they want: rhetoric with which to promote themselves internally. Evidence: when he talks, they fire another missile.
    As for Iran, in case you had not noticed the Republican Guard candidate was trashed by Rouhani, who ran on the nuclear deal and further engagement with the West. Trump plays directly to the Republican Guard.
    The answer you want is: tell Trump just to shut up. If Tillerson said he is a moron, Tillerson is right.

  25. Well, go on you big mouths – give me the plan to deal with Iran and North Korea.

    Of course you would say that Steve. You are so in touch with Republican thought, which on this subject is: no thought whatsoever. Just destruction of the previous Democrat diplomatic solution, replaced with… nothing. That is how NK got its nukes in the first place, because Dubbya deleted the Clinton policy and did bugger all for eight years. Recent history of US foreign policy is filled with deliberate Republican incompetence and herculean Democrat efforts to repair the damage: Iran, Iraq and NK are the defining examples.

    For you to now ask for policy ideas only underlines how you have none.

  26. Barry 1963

    Irreversible is right. A moderate in Iran will face the heat from the hardliners who’ll say, “We warned you, you can’t trust the Americans. Get the centrifuges going.” In NK Kim will say you need a strong leader and nukes to ward off American aggression. Mind you, Trump is only concerned with looking tough, so he laps it up too. It deflects from the wall that Mexico won’t pay for.

  27. PB

    Give Iran a free hand to deal with Israel, and enjoy the multi-generational outbreak of peace that would follow.

  28. Ralph

    Trump is a disaster. He thinks he can run the US just like one of his companies, but it’s not like that. He’s so vain and thin-skinned that he can’t resist resorting to infantile abuse via twitter against anyone who dares to criticize him. That’s how he responds to people or institutions that stand in his way because he doesn’t have the words or mental capacity to methodically work through a problem and come to an mutually satisfactory solution. He’s completely unfit to work with anyone who doesn’t agree with his incredibly simplistic view of the world. He’s just as ineffectual and blundering as Obama was. In time, we may even see that he is even more useless. The US appears to be following Australia’s lead in having a decade or more of dud leaders.

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