Monday Forum: October 23, 2017

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  1. A study commissioned by Male Champions of Change interviewed 6,000 employees and cites examples of sexism like role stereotyping, insults masquerading as jokes, women’s views being devalued, and a preoccupation with physical appearance…

    Awesome.

    As of tomorrow, i’m coming to work in a loincloth.

  2. Chris

    Chris Kenny at the Paywallian:

    ABC same-sex groupthink shrinks national debate before our eyes
    The ABC is showing its slip in the gay marriage debate. Whatever we might think about the actual debate surrounding the postal survey, the way it has been conducted has given us a clear insight into the jaundice of the national broadcaster.

    We now know that at least some ABC employees think they should be allowed to campaign for the “right side of history” and that if they weren’t then they would be forced to give “undue weight to the opinions of bigots.”

    It is a revealing — although unsurprising — insight because it confirms the moral vanity and sense of righteousness that pervades ABC coverage of the gay marriage issue and many others.

    Convinced of their own superior virtue on a range of issues ranging from border protection and climate change to indigenous affairs and republicanism, many ABC journalists do not seem to even grasp alternative arguments let alone comprehend how they should allow them to inform public debate. It is sanctimony, pure and simple, and the result is a stifling groupthink that shrinks and constricts the national debate before our very eyes.

    This latest window comes from emails obtained under a freedom of information application by online media organisation, The New Daily. They reveal details of staff blowback after ABC management sent a memo to all staff in August to “be circumspect” about the way they covered the gay marriage issue.

    The Australian reported the staff directive from ABC news edit­orial policy manager Mark Maley at the time. It was distributed just hours after Auntie was accused of campaigning for the Yes case by Liberal MP Zed Seselja.

    “Please remember that approximately 40 per cent of the population opposes­ the change and more importantly­ that the ABC does not have a position on the issue,” Mr Maley said in the email. “It is very important that we are impartial and that all perspectives are given a fair hearing and treated with respect by the ABC. In this charged environment I would also urge everyone to be ­circumspect on social media — advo­cating for one side or the other will make it more difficult for the ABC to be seen as impartial.”

    The New Daily has reported a series of emails sent by other staff in response to the directive. “We would be on the right side of history to publicly support our many gay and lesbian staff members to be treated equally to the rest of us,” wrote one employee (the name was redacted). The email went on to claim there was not “a single argument in favour of the status quo that is not bigoted in nature”.

    “We should be collectively outraged. Isn’t the alternative giving undue weight to the opinions of bigots?” the staffer went on. Another ABC manager, head of indigenous employment and diversity Philippa McDermott, complained about the directive to use the term same-sex marriage rather than “marriage equality” because it was more value neutral. “‘Marriage equality’ was incorporated as a term to include gender diverse, especially non-binary and intersex people in to this conversation,” Ms McDermott said in an internal email to other managers. She warned the ABC should “not censor” the public debate, effectively suggesting that the internal plea for impartiality was an unfair restriction on ABC employees. Perish the thought.

    So the bottom of the garden is the bottom of the ABC Staff?

  3. srr

    The Fire RISES: The EU’s CRISIS of Regionalism
    Black Pigeon Speaks
    Oct 22, 2017

  4. Male Champions of Change

    How embarrassing.

  5. Dr Faustus

    How Labor’s energy policy will hurt you

    stackja: Thanks for the link – I am furious agreement with the commentary; uncomplicated and unarguable. Similarly, the numbers I floated above are wholly mainstream and beyond fundamental debate; there is no political wriggle room to argue they are not ball park correct.

    Unfortunately this irreversible damage to the Australian economy will be waved through by the dead hand of the Turnbull Coalition.

  6. srr

    Welcome To Reality
    Count Dankula
    Oct 23, 2017

  7. Diogenes

    As a young and impressionable teenage recruit, I met World War Two veterans of my old unit, who had served in New Guinea. Suitably lubricated, they told tales, that would cause Chris Fvcking Masters to have an attack of the vapors, and call for the smelling salts.

    Ditto, except they (a Wo1 and a SSgt) were ex K-Force (ex 3RAR) telling stories of Korea.

    And almost ditto, walked into an inn for dinner in Bavaria one night in Feb 1982. It was veterans night, and because of the slouchy I wore, and the fact that I spoke German (when asked why, explained) , I was made welcome. Lots of reminiscing about the Western Desert and the Eastern Front. I suspect Mr Masters would have thrown up just a few times.

  8. srr

    Blair Cottrell 🇦🇺‏ @blaircottrell89 1h1 hour ago

    Police Commissioner Ashton is a member of a non-elected political group & forces his views on the entire police department.
    https://twitter.com/blaircottrell89/status/922637591194648576
    Is that legal? 🤔

  9. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From C.L. at 1:20 pm:

    Australian business ‘leaders’ and homosexual lobby group, Male Champions of Change, undertake to ban masculinity at work, reports the ABC:

    Australia’s ‘blokey’ workplaces vow to stamp out everyday sexism.

    Some men are oblivious to it but subconscious sexism remains a common and often distressing factor in the workplace, …

    …, some of Australia’s major employers have pledged to take practical steps to help men know when their attitudes or comments result in prejudice or discrimination.

    A study … cites examples of sexism like role stereotyping, insults masquerading as jokes, women’s views being devalued, and a preoccupation with physical appearance…

    More than 100 leaders have committed to eliminating everyday sexism including Victoria Police, NAB, Incitec Pivot, the AFL, Medibank Private, La Trobe University, Qantas and AGL.

    LOL.

    And there you were expecting that, when Emperor Stumbull determines the 55% No vote, seasonally adjusted, means blokes can marry blokes and play with each others bottoms in public, it would be all over at last and the freak show would move on from their 24 hour a day obsession with porking each other where the poo comes out.

    Lord knows what they have as their next winnable prize – poof and pre-pubescent boy only beaches; access to the Victorian schools database of shovel ready, groomed children; surrender of your sons on demand of any senior member of the judiciary … it could be anything on the depraved and perverted meter.

    They are a long way from done once they succeed in the current campaign. The abos mumbling incoherently about “constitution” and sheilas with their mythical glass ceiling are going to have keep their place further down the queue for a while yet.

  10. Snoopy

    Male Champions of Change = closet trannies who wear ladies not-so-smalls.

  11. notafan

    One of a cast of thousands, in addition to public housing fraud, no doubt there was welfare fraud, tax evasion and too many car accidents

    Daily Mail shamelessly using the muslim word in the headline

    Ms Khodragha married husband Khaled in an Islamic ceremony in 1991, but their wedding was unregistered.

  12. srr

    ha, maybe they should ask JC & Co. … 😆 …

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  13. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Lots of reminiscing about the Western Desert and the Eastern Front.

    I’ve listened to a German veteran, named “Adolph” of all names, explain the Nazi era as “Zen came ze little Austrian corporal, with ze funny moustache.”

  14. notafan

    What happened to the Barnaby Joyce scandal?

  15. DrBeauGan

    Firsts had and still possess rights that preceded white invasion theft and settlement. Firsts want restorative justice. Having secured part of the ancestral domain Firsts want to ensure future legislation doesn’t harm their interests. That needs to be done using both national and international law. Not goodwill and trust.

    Testy, most cats and indeed most Aussies are sympathetic to those aborigines living in squalor, particularly children. What we are not sympathetic to is the bastards who are making a living out of it, of whom you seem to be one. If you had a smidgen of integrity, you would confront the uncomfortable fact that the separatist and Socialist policies you espouse have made things worse for over thirty years. There’s no point in arguing with you, you think calling us bigots is a powerful argument. Much like m0nty. So I’ll stop.

    You really are a dishonest creep.

  16. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    biggot=someone who isn’t a communist or hard core egalitarian – someone that doesn’t believe all people are the same

  17. woolfe

    You mean Joyce Barnaby?

  18. srr

    CNN Unveils “Credibility Recovery Campaign” Using Apples and Bananas – Fails Miserably…
    Posted on October 23, 2017 by sundance

    Throughout the past several years CNN has lost all credibility and spiraled themselves into such diminished brand value they are now routinely subjected to snark and ridicule at their inaccurate reporting.

    Every attempt CNN has made to try and push-back against their tarnished image has only backfired and made matters worse.

    You’ll probably remember CNN going so far as to attack a kid for making a meme* of their Trump propaganda with a wrestling gif/video. And who can forget the thousands of hours of research to declare the villain in 2016 presidential election was actually Pokemon*.

    In essence CNN has attempted to stop people from pointing out their insufferable idiocy by creating even more insufferable news idiocy. As a direct result CNN is now the representative embodiment of “fake news.

    So, get this… The smart-set within the CNN corporate branding team decided to roll out a campaign to recover their image using Apples and Bananas, yes bananas, SEE HERE*. However, it only took a few minutes before, well, yup – their campaign backfires again:

    CTH couldn’t resist…*

    *Continue reading →
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/10/23/cnn-unveils-credibility-recovery-campaign-using-apples-and-bananas-fails-miserably/

  19. srr

    CNN Apple Video: Proof of their Mind Control Tactics
    Matt Wayne
    Oct 23, 2017

  20. egg_

    What happened to the Barnaby Joyce scandal?

    Made a ewe turn?

  21. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    What happened to the Barnaby Joyce scandal?

    Suspect the old lezzo looked at the figures and decided it wouldn’t do him any good, Barnaby Joyce would still chew his ar$e.

  22. stackja

    Chris
    #2531801, posted on October 24, 2017 at 1:51 pm

    Phillipa McDermott | Australian Indigenous Leadership Centre
    ailc.org.au/phillipa-mcdermott
    Phillipa is a Wakka Wakka and Mulinjali woman from the North Coast of NSW. Phillipa has a BA in Communications from UTS. Phillipa has worked as a radio …

    Another ‘paleface’ saying ‘shut up bigots’. BTW How many ‘managers’ does the ABC need?

  23. Diogenes

    What we are not sympathetic to is the bastards who are making a living out of it, of whom you seem to be one.

    Hear Hear !
    Last night on local news was a story about a special Drs program for indigenous kids at Newcastle Uni, and a lot of our aboriginal kids have applied for special nursing SBATs at Gosford Hospital, lots of pious talk.

    My opinion, you get ANY kind of preferment (as Dr, Nurse, Teacher, Lawyer etc) because aboriginal, you are obligated to work in a largely indigenous community for x many years (think Bourke)

  24. Chris

    My opinion, you get ANY kind of preferment (as Dr, Nurse, Teacher, Lawyer etc) because aboriginal, you are obligated to work in a largely indigenous community for x many years (think Bourke)

    Alternatively, what a great resource for ‘staff diversity’ posturing by major institutions.

  25. srr

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    Tony Podesta AG Sessions

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  26. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    My opinion, you get ANY kind of preferment (as Dr, Nurse, Teacher, Lawyer etc) because aboriginal, you are obligated to work in a largely indigenous community for x many years (think Bourke)

    You don’t seriously expect any Aboriginal professional ever to set foot in one of those Third World shyteholes, do you?

  27. stackja

    notafan
    #2531828, posted on October 24, 2017 at 2:26 pm
    What happened to the Barnaby Joyce scandal?

    Paywallian

    Barnaby Joyce dogged by fake polling and rumours – The Australian
    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/…/barnaby-joyce-dogged…/ea4fe6bfb036aa98f98c63e708...
    1 day ago – Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Joyce is being dogged by a dirty-tricks campaign, with fake polling emerging on Sunday night suggesting any …

  28. Diogenes

    Chris has hit upon where they will end up
    Zulu in his cynicism is correct

  29. srr

    Larry Schweikart‏ @LarrySchweikart 14h14 hours ago

    This is why Carter came out with his moralizing diatribe.

    https://twitter.com/LarrySchweikart/status/922465943900405760

    HE KNOWS THE EXCREMENT IS ABOUT TO HIT THE FAN.

  30. Zyconoclast

    The mincing poodle molester C Pyne in QT* just called Kevin Rudd as a sensible Labor leader.

    *Queer Time

  31. Senile Old Guy

    Their ABC, which campaigns endlessly for AGW and renewables, now describes the consequences (without mentioning their own role or the hypocrisy of their position):

    Australians are cutting back on basic things like fresh fruit and vegies in order to keep the lights on with the National Debt Helpline taking 14,000 calls in September — a record for the month, and up 14 per cent on the same time last year. The helpline said borrowers were mainly calling from metropolitan Sydney and Melbourne and regional Queensland, where power bills are rising faster than what many can cope with.

    Nowhere in the piece was there any mention of why the bills were rising! It’s a mystery! Or it could be the vast sums being wasted on ruinables due to campaigns run by, among others, the ABC.

    One of those callers was Patricia Young, 34, from Merrylands in Sydney’s West. She earns $19 an hour as a barista for the Salvation Army, but it’s not enough to keep pace with her rising power bills.

    The Salvation Army employs baristas? That would be why I haven’t given them any money in years.

  32. Bruce of Newcastle

    For the maths wizards

    I suspect most high school students could do that one in 1950.
    Given how much lefty crud the kids have to learn it’s no surprise only one in ten can do it now.

  33. Baldrick

    This latest window comes from emails obtained under a freedom of information application by online media organisation, The New Daily. They reveal details of staff blowback after ABC management sent a memo to all staff in August to “be circumspect” about the way they covered the gay marriage issue.

    ABC management to staff: ‘Please be impartial.’
    ABC staff to management: ‘Why should we start now?’

  34. johanna

    Well, that’s a relief! Federal Police witnesses tell the Senate that the ACL bomber chose that location because there was nobody around:

    The ACT’s chief police officer, assistant commissioner Justine Saunders, backed that account, while noting the matter was before a coronial inquiry and urging the Senate to respect the privacy of the deceased man’s family.

    She told the inquiry it was not Mr Duong’s first suicide attempt, and that he had first driven to other locations but settled on the ACL car park partly because it was devoid of other people.

    “He did indicate that he did dislike the ACL, but that was not was not his motivation for taking he action that he did,” Ms Saunders said.

    There you go. Nothing to see here. What’s more, the AFP knows for a fact what his motives were and were not, even though they have not a shred of evidence.

    But, the usual suspects are outraged:

    To the shock of other senators, Senator Abetz requested the AFP provide statistics about how many Australians attempted suicide by explosion – evidence Mr Colvin said he could not provide.

    The AFP chief also declared himself “uncomfortable that we are talking in such detail about what is a matter before the coroner”. He recognised his obligation to be accountable to the Senate committee, “but I think we need to keep in context the totality of the investigation”.

    Senator Macdonald, the committee chair, later complained some MPs had talked about suicide “ad infinitum” during the same-sex marriage debate, and asked Mr Colvin “whether that was encouraging people to do it”. Mr Colvin said he was not an expert in that area.

    Labor senator Louise Pratt, the committee’s deputy chair and a member of the Parliament’s LGBTI group, said it was “quite disturbing” that Liberal senators were “seeking to make political capital out of the tragic death of a deeply unwell man”.

    It seems that there is no limit to the lengths the gay lobby will go to to avoid speaking the truth about what happened.

  35. stackja

    Baldrick
    #2531858, posted on October 24, 2017 at 3:05 pm

    How The Staff Captured The ABC
    Keith Windschuttle

  36. stackja

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2531857, posted on October 24, 2017 at 3:01 pm
    For the maths wizards

    I suspect most high school students could do that one in 1950.
    Given how much lefty crud the kids have to learn it’s no surprise only one in ten can do it now.

    I would need pencil and paper. My mental arithmetic is limited.

  37. H B Bear

    Googles G could sack all ALPBC management tomorrow and it wouldn’t make an iota of difference. The staff co-op hive mind just goes on as usual.

  38. Mother Lode

    Male Champions of Change

    Once again they are deliberately misdiagnosing the problems underlying violence, just so they can proffer a politically advantageous (but ineffective) prescription.

    And while they dither about this display of conspicuous PC virtue and crow about how much they are helping, the real victims will be ignored and continue to suffer with no hope even yet in sight.

  39. johanna

    AFP Assistant Commissioner Ian McCartney, National Manager Counter Terrorism, said the arrest was the culmination of an investigation spanning more than 16 months.

    “These types of investigations are complex and protracted,” Assistant Commissioner McCartney said.

    “Our investigators invest countless hours to ensure the safety of Australians, and to bring to account those who seek to harm our community and way of life.”

    Translation.

    (i) we are really dumb, and it takes lotsa money for us to do our jobs; and

    (ii) see above. Overtime is now selfless “investment,” apparently.

  40. Bruce in WA

    No wonder meat is so bloody expensive …

    $2.6M OF LIVESTOCK STOLEN WHILE STOCK THEFT REPORT DELAYED FOR 14 MONTHS

    It’s rural crime week in New South Wales and Robert Borsak revealed that while Police Minister “Lazy Troy” Grant sat on a landmark stock theft report for 14 months, $2.6 million of sheep and cattle were stolen.

    Shooters Fishers and Farmers Party MLC Robert Borsak revealed that Nationals Police Minister Troy Grant sat on the Bradshaw Report into rural crime and stock theft for 14 months, while 500 incidents of stock theft occurred to the value of $2.6m.

    Revelations from Mr Borsak came in the middle of rural crime week 2017.

    ––––––––

    “In the months of January to May 2017 alone, 1,717 cattle and 8,095 sheep were reported stolen in New South Wales, according to NSW Police. The market value of those livestock was $1,866,397 and $825,690 respectively.

    “$2,692,069 of livestock were stolen while Troy Grant held in his hand a landmark report into how to deal with the problem.

    “Where was the Police Minister?

    “According to the Bradshaw Report $11 million of sheep and cattle have been stolen in the five years to 2015 – the majority under the watch of this National Party and Liberal Party Government.

  41. BoN;
    I did the quiz and got 11 out of the 12 – along with lots of head scratching and furious rememberings.
    Really stirred the neurons a bit.

  42. Mark from Melbourne

    I had to resort to pencil and paper once, but otherwise that is a pretty straightforward quiz really. I’m also pretty certain there was a shortcut on the one I did resort to paper for, and am now scratching my head as to what I missed.

    So even colour blind folk who were “educated” about maths using Cuisinaire in the mid-60s can do it!

  43. Stackja:

    I would need pencil and paper. My mental arithmetic is limited.

    That was a given – but no calculator.

  44. Senile Old Guy

    The Australian Federal Police have resource problems!

    High-level Australian Federal Police (AFP) operations in Sydney, including potential cocaine importation drug bust operations, have been imperilled by increased security needs, including at the Prime Minister’s personal residence. An internal AFP document from a senior NSW-based officer written in July, and seen by the ABC, said under-resourcing caused by an over-stretched workforce meant 23 operations had to be transferred, moved or cancelled because of a lack of capacity.

    But they just announced a recruitment round just for women:

    THE decision by the Australian Federal Police to run a female-only recruitment round has caused major backlash online.

    And support a kids foundation:

    The Brighter Future 4 Kids Foundation proudly announced two important changes to their Foundation today, with the introduction of co-patrons Australian Federal Police Commissioner Andrew Colvin APM OAM and Queensland Fire and Emergency Services Commissioner Katarina Carroll APM, and its new program Uniform 4 Kids.

    And commission reviews on diversity:

    On 22 August 2016, AFP Commissioner Andrew Colvin released the report Cultural Change: Gender Diversity and Inclusion in the Australian Federal Police (PDF, 2MB), following an independent review of the organisation by former Sex Discrimination Commissioner, Elizabeth Broderick.

    And work on reconciliation:

    The Indigenous Statement of Commitment (PDF, 900KB) outlines our commitment to reconciliation between Indigenous and non-Indigenous Australians through several key areas including employment, cultural awareness, community involvement, cross agency involvement and education.

    And on its brand:

    The AFP has a distinct corporate style, reflecting one organisation with multiple roles and perspectives. Our brand is strong and professional and must be used consistently in our communications activities. To maintain brand integrity and consistency, the AFP Visual Identity Guide 2016 has been developed. All AFP communications material must adhere to this guide.

  45. notafan

    Where is the math quiz, please? I scrolled up and up and up and couldn’t find it.

  46. Stimpson J. Cat

    Male Champions of Change

    This is so f$cking gay.
    It is literally the gayest thing I have heard this week, and I was listening to George Micheal in the car this morning.

    Just Gay as f$ck.

  47. Diogenes

    Our brand is strong and professional and must be used consistently in our communications activities. To maintain brand integrity and consistency, the AFP Visual Identity Guide 2016 has been developed. All AFP communications material must adhere to this guide.

    The phone hookup where this was announced to the troops

    http://disappearingidioms.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Keystone-Cops-1A.png

  48. stackja

    Winston Smith
    #2531877, posted on October 24, 2017 at 3:23 pm
    Stackja:

    I would need pencil and paper. My mental arithmetic is limited.

    That was a given – but no calculator.”

    Calculators were unknown to me. Vague memories of log tables and slide rule.

  49. Senile Old Guy

    Where is the math quiz, please? I scrolled up and up and up and couldn’t find it.

    Mark beat me to it.

    I identify as scoring 12/12!

    …but I got 10. I got bored and starting guessing.

  50. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Calculators were unknown to me. Vague memories of log tables and slide rule.

    Got my old slide rule, somewhere. The younger generation were shocked that there was a time before calculators were invented, and such archaic tools used.

  51. DrBeauGan

    tackja
    #2531867, posted on October 24, 2017 at 3:14 pm
    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2531857, posted on October 24, 2017 at 3:01 pm
    For the maths wizards

    I suspect most high school students could do that one in 1950.
    Given how much lefty crud the kids have to learn it’s no surprise only one in ten can do it now.

    I would need pencil and paper. My mental arithmetic is limited

    Stack, it’s trivial. It’s a multiple choice with four to pick from. If it’s about 8,000 divided by about 20 the answer is about 400. If the answer is a whole number and the last digit of the first digit is 9 and the second number is 17 then the last digit of the answer is 7. So you choose the answer which ends in seven and is around 400. Easy peasy.

    Mind you, I got one wrong.

  52. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Drawing attention of all military-minded Cats to this month’s IPA Review. There’s a thoughtful literary-tinged review of the latest Dunkirk movie, investigating the narratives of national myth within the context of history, arguing for a recognition of both and a separation of each. It also presents a good summary of what actually happened, so that we may understand the ‘small boat rescue’, which has attained mythological status, as it really happened with reference to the situation on the ground and via the Admiralty. By a UNSW academic no less, so they are not all bad. There is also a review of a new book by historian Sue Rosen on Australia’s Secret WW2 Scorched Earth plans, junked fairly quickly once our winning was clear. This too picks up on psychological perceptions. These two articles managed to captivate this non-soldierette quite successfully away from other things today.

    This October issue also has useful articles on identity politics; the forgotten Australian non-working male; a call for Christians to get-up and speak; getting some Australian ‘right to try’ in drug trials; and other good reading. Worth the joining fee. Even though I don’t always agree with the IPA, I agree well enough, plus they have great functions and a mag that sits alongside Spectator and Quadrant as one of the few speaking against the fully-funded leftie rags.

  53. Labor senator Louise Pratt, the committee’s deputy chair and a member of the Parliament’s LGBTI group, said it was “quite disturbing” that Liberal senators were “seeking to make political capital out of the tragic death of a deeply unwell man”.

    He died at his own hand over half a year after the event we are concerned about. We are not making political capital about his later suicide, we are concerned that the AFP, MSM, etc. are attempting to whitewash the incident because it is politically sensitive, involving as it does a homosexual activist exploding a bomb out the front of the foremost Christian political lobby in the country. If you reverse the adjectives this would have been the most run story since the incident occurred in December.

  54. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    There is also a review of a new book by historian Sue Rosen on Australia’s Secret WW2 Scorched Earth plans, junked fairly quickly once our winning was clear

    Sue Rosen’s book was taken as proof that there was a Brisbane Line, after all…After that, I didn’t bother.

  55. Hey, what has Alan Jones had to say about this incident?

  56. Bruce of Newcastle

    I would need pencil and paper.

    Stackja – That makes you a genius according to the final screen. Only one in ten can do that it says.

    I may be old fashioned but I think the kids should be trained in mental arithmetic. It’s like a language: you are not fluent if you have to read a foreign newspaper with a dictionary in hand. So much easier to fool someone with numbers if they aren’t fluent in them.

  57. DrBeauGan

    Anyway, it wasn’t maths, it was arithmetic. Different subject altogether.

  58. stackja

    DrBeauGan
    #2531897, posted on October 24, 2017 at 3:42 pm
    Anyway, it wasn’t maths, it was arithmetic. Different subject altogether.

    Don’t give a headache about maths!

  59. Mark from Melbourne

    I may be old fashioned but I think the kids should be trained in mental arithmetic. It’s like a language: you are not fluent if you have to read a foreign newspaper with a dictionary in hand. So much easier to fool someone with numbers if they aren’t fluent in them.

    True enough, but as the good Doc said upthread, the real trick is to understand numbers and their various relationships. Other than a couple of obvious “do the arithmetic” questions, the bulk were simply a matter of understanding how the interactions work. Still trying to find a trick way into 12345×6789…

  60. DrBeauGan

    A lecture of my acquaintance once proved that if 0=1, then the entire class would burn in hell forever. That’s maths. Much more fun than sums.

  61. Baldrick

    As if we needed any more proof TheirABC is just a cabal of Socialist Greenfilth scum:

    Bevan Shields @BevanShields
    The ABC won’t comply with the government’s demand to reveal salaries of presenters earning more than $200,000 #estimates
    This means the government may try to introduce legislation to force the ABC to do this, but it is very unlikely to pass the Senate

  62. stackja

    Mark from Melbourne
    #2531899, posted on October 24, 2017 at 3:47 pm

    Professor Google!

  63. Couldn’t do the maths test in my head but got 12/12 using pen and paper.
    I assume it was around year 7 level maths level – or even primary school? No calculus or algebra.

    PS a young barista gave me correct change today without using the till. Happy days may be here again.

  64. The ABC won’t comply with the government’s demand to reveal salaries of presenters earning more than $200,000 #estimates

    Simple solutions abound.
    Publish the salaries after accessing government records. Surely they exist.
    Block funding to the ABC until the information is released.

    Better still, close it down. An elected government and the people should not be held hostage to a government department.
    Guthrie’s last stand! It would be hugely funny if her grandstanding led to the abolition of her ABC.

  65. srr

    Hollywood is Eating Itself 😂
    Mark Dice
    Oct 23, 2017
    You won’t believe who Kathy Griffin is blaming NOW for that circus of a press conference!

  66. Stackja – That makes you a genius according to the final screen. Only one in ten can do that it says.

    Proof positive that it is nothing but click bait.
    10% of the population are not genius level.

  67. Eyrie

    FMD my primary school class could do those “maths” questions before the end of Grade 7.
    It was arithmetic with a little algebra (negative numbers). Both are in fact branches of mathematics.
    I guess those who had trouble won’t be doing any integral calculus or differential equations?

  68. srr

    but the questions remain – who ate Dot and the others, who are next on that menu, and, who will blow the whistle 😀

  69. johanna

    According to Fauxfacts, the reason that our school test scores are falling is … testing:

    About 75 per cent of Australian teachers surveyed said that “accountability pressure had led them to teach more to the test”, with the report finding that teachers often respond to test score pressures by narrowing the curriculum, “shaping the testing pool” and even “explicit cheating”, the report said.

    “Often, various types of unintended negative consequences more than outweigh the benefits of high-stakes accountability, particularly among the most disadvantaged schools and students.”

    It also found that standardised tests are not clearly improving student learning.

    An evaluation of 11 countries, including Australia, that use “test-based accountability” found that six countries saw a decline in their PISA mean maths scores between 2003 and 2015, while five saw some increase, according to the UNESCO report.

    Let’s get this straight. Accountability causes cheating. So, better not to have it.

    Oh, and since six countries went down and five went up, the case is closed.

    No other factor in student performance is considered in this load of utter bollocks.

    The education industry is a sewer.

  70. srr

    Sean Hannity 10/23/17 – Hannity Fox News Today October 23, 2017
    OBAMA-CLINTON, RUSSIA, TRUMP

  71. Perhaps Dot passed his law exams and doesn’t need to practice arguing any more.

  72. Stimpson J. Cat

    but the questions remain – who ate Dot and the others, who are next on that menu, and, who will blow the whistle 😀

    I just hope he didn’t go into the slavery business.

  73. Eyrie

    Top ender, Elon’s Mars plans are going well. The Raptor Lox/methane engines are in test in Texas with no problems so far and they did a test to destruction of a 12 meter (now will only be 9m) diameter carbon fiber Lox tank with the results they wanted. They clearly have solved the guidance and navigation problems in landing and the USAF just gave them an extra $40 million to help with engine development as the USAF wants to use the Raptor as an upper stage engine on a new launch vehicle. Their heat shield material is outstanding. It was developed from the NASA versions and now on its third iteration.
    http://www.parabolicarc.com is a nice space news website although the owner is a loony warmunist. Also try http://www.nasaspaceflight.com (nothing to do with nasa BTW) and you can watch live launches/recoveries at http://www.spacex.com. Spaceflightnow has a launch schedule. Next Falcon 9 on Oct 30th.

  74. Muzzlehatch

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2531881, posted on October 24, 2017 at 3:25 pm

    Just Gay as f$ck.

    There is a considerable contingent in the gay community that hate that gay shit too.
    My gay boss who I would count as a stand up guy (for a Mountain Jew) put it thus” Muzzlehatch, we are homosexuals. We are attracted to Men, not pansies.” In his beautifully manicured Swiss accent.

  75. C.L.

    I see the Democrats/media chased down that Gold Star Widow and dragged her back to the plantation. No light duties in the big house for you unless you denounce Trump.

    Flashback:
    Chris Matthews on Mother who lost son in Benghazi: I don’t care what that woman has felt.

  76. stackja

    johanna
    #2531915, posted on October 24, 2017 at 4:21 pm

    Jennie George?

    Jennie George – Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennie_George
    In February 1968 she married Paddy George, a full-time activist for the Communist Party and NSW State Secretary of the Eureka Youth League, of which she was also a member. Jennie George was a secondary school teacher and an active member of the teacher’s union.

  77. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Zulu – from the review – “The importance of the south-east is consistent with the idea of the highly controversial ‘Brisbane Line’. The Brisbane Line was a speculative theory of a defence policy that if we were to face a land invasion from the Japanese, the government would abandon the entire north, west and central parts of the country to concentrate the defence of the industrial and heavily populated south-east. The code, however, does not mention the Brisbane Line and Swain’s belief that the south-east could not be given up does not indicate that other parts of the country would not be defended. ”

    Each State was instructed to draft ‘Scorched Earth’ policies. There were some humdingers, tremendously reliant on citizen participation, with some fairly wonky-looking expectation of military co-ordination and help. Makes Britain’s civil defense in WW2 by contrast look super-prepared, despite Dad’s Army jokes.

  78. johanna

    Their ABC, which campaigns endlessly for AGW and renewables, now describes the consequences (without mentioning their own role or the hypocrisy of their position):

    Australians are cutting back on basic things like fresh fruit and vegies in order to keep the lights on

    How very ABC. Fruit and veg are a tiny proportion of household expenditure. But, they are virtuous expenditures.

  79. srr

    Perhaps Dot passed his law exams and doesn’t need to practice arguing any more.
    ____

    I just hope he didn’t go into the slavery business.

    … ahem …


    but the questions remain – who ate Dot and the others, who are next on that menu, and, who will blow the whistle 😀

    🙂

  80. Baldrick

    Perhaps Dot passed his law exams and doesn’t need to practice arguing any more.

    Hahahaha. Whatever Dot’s doing I wish him well.

  81. C.L.

    The AFP – the Labor Party’s police wing – wants Liberals out:

    AFP’s high-level operations under strain because officers busy minding Malcolm Turnbull’s mansion.

    High-level Australian Federal Police (AFP) operations in Sydney, including potential cocaine importation drug bust operations, have been imperilled by increased security needs, including at the Prime Minister’s personal residence.

    An internal AFP document from a senior NSW-based officer written in July, and seen by the ABC, said under-resourcing caused by an over-stretched workforce meant 23 operations had to be transferred, moved or cancelled because of a lack of capacity.

    The July AFP memo revealed resourcing shortages left the AFP unable to properly investigate a 1.6-tonne cocaine importation, leaving it to be handled offshore.

    This meant the operations of an Australian-based crime group behind the import could not be fully explored.

    Who gives a shit, really? People want cocaine and they’ll pay for it.

  82. cynical1

    Male Champions of Change

    Men like Tim Southpossum.

    Couldn’t win a fight, a root, or a place in a sporting team.

    So becomes powerful and seeks revenge.

  83. C.L.

    Leaked especially for Bill:

    The Federal Opposition grilled Mr Turnbull about AFP resourcing during Question Time.

    “Does the Prime Minister consider the AFP is wrong when it says resourcing shortages left the AFP unable to investigate a 1.6-tonne cocaine importation?” Opposition Leader Bill Shorten asked.

  84. srr

    Bill Mitchell‏Verified account @mitchellvii 2h2 hours ago

    YourVoice America (10/23) – Establishment Hears Bannon War Drums! http://ow.ly/liVT30g56pI 5

    https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/922674121586114561

    holier-than-thou-cows remain deaf …. while deciding the slaughter order of their sacrificial fatted calves … 🙄

  85. notafan

    I got one wrong, and did a lot of scribbling, arithmetic not my forte, I admit it.

  86. Their ABC, which campaigns endlessly for AGW and renewables, now describes the consequences (without mentioning their own role or the hypocrisy of their position):

    Australians are cutting back on basic things like fresh fruit and vegies in order to keep the lights on

    How very ABC. Fruit and veg are a tiny proportion of household expenditure. But, they are virtuous expenditures.

    So does this mean no more smashed avo breakfasts?

  87. Geeze srr that Bill Mitchell twitter video is vile.
    Can we have a warning in future?
    Perhaps, Not Suitable For Home Viewing?
    Stomach Churning?
    Abandon Hope All Ye Who Enter Here?

  88. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Zulu – from the review – “The importance of the south-east is consistent with the idea of the highly controversial ‘Brisbane Line’. The Brisbane Line was a speculative theory of a defence policy that if we were to face a land invasion from the Japanese, the government would abandon the entire north, west and central parts of the country to concentrate the defence of the industrial and heavily populated south-east.

    When the book was released, the review in the Australian ran banner headlines “Proof that there really was a Brisbane Line.”

    The original proposal for the “Brisbane Line” was put forward in the late 1930’s. A successful Japanese invasion of the South East corner of Australia would destroy Australia’s capacity to wage war. A line would be drawn from Brisbane to Adelaide, marking an area out of which no troops would be sent, in case of an invasion. Unit commanders at, say, Perth or Townsville would have to mount the best defence they could, with troops and resources on hand, and not to plan on reinforcements.

    When General Sir Ivan MacKay prepared his appreciation for the defence of mainland Australia in 1942, he never even considered, let alone adopted such a plan, and the version put forward by Eddie Ward, “the Socialist firebrand of East Sydney”, that vast areas of Australia were to be abandoned, without any defence at all being mounted, is pure fantasy.

  89. johanna

    Knocked off the arithmetic test, no probs.

    Not all females are numerically challenged. And, I have always loved pure maths.

    When I was in high school, we had a thing called “deductive geometry.” I loved that, solving puzzles.

    It came in handy when I was a policy analyst. We would be given figures to insert into the PM or Minister’s words. More than once, I looked at them and thought that they didn’t seem right. Sure enough, they weren’t.

    Gosh, thinking back to a high school education which included quadratic equations and Latin, I feel sorry for the current crop.

  90. hzhousewife

    I may be old fashioned but I think the kids should be trained in mental arithmetic. It’s like a language: you are not fluent if you have to read a foreign newspaper with a dictionary in hand. So much easier to fool someone with numbers if they aren’t fluent in them.

    We did heaps right up until 4th Form (Year 10). I was always second best, the the Bank Manager’s son beat me out mostly. I was good because at home we had a little Maths text Dad had picked up somewhere similar to Maths for Dummies, it was full of all the tricks and I had absorbed a lot of it, I found it fun. An exampe of how if you like something you get better at it because you do it more, and vice versa. So sad it’s not cool now.

  91. Gab

    notafan
    #2531937, posted on October 24, 2017 at 4:40 pm

    I got one wrong, and did a lot of scribbling, arithmetic not my forte, I admit it.

    Well done. I got the same and didn’t do any scribbling or use a calculator (just skiting now) 🙂

  92. Delta A

    12/12. (I did use a pencil and paper.)

    It’s most concerning that such a straightforward test could be considered difficult. The education system is failing our students.

  93. Dr Faustus

    AFP’s high-level operations under strain because officers busy minding Malcolm Turnbull’s mansion.
    The July AFP memo revealed resourcing shortages left the AFP unable to properly investigate a 1.6-tonne cocaine importation, leaving it to be handled offshore.

    This meant the operations of an Australian-based crime group behind the import could not be fully explored.

    I drove past two AFP cars minding Turnbull’s mansion on Saturday.

    I hope the AFP were not planning to use the plumply slumbering officers in any investigative capacity.

  94. johanna

    In the 1980s I did a “maths for non math people” type course at Sydney Uni. It was a revelation. It showed how many of the shortcuts and leaps of logic used in conventional arithmetic and maths don’t make logical sense, but, inconveniently, they work every time.

    Mathematics is indeed the first of all disciplines, and will never be fully understood.

  95. Arnost

    What was the trick to Q7? [12,345 x 6,789]

    The results are too close to sort out wrongs… (the fact that it is the number sequence has to mean something but I can’t grok that…)

    83,810,215; 84,710,215; 83,810,205; 83,910,305

  96. John64

    What was the trick to Q7? [12,345 x 6,789]

    I worked out 12,345 x 7,000 then subtracted 12,345 x 211. Made it much easier.

    12/12 and only needed pencil and paper for 4 of them.

  97. woolfe

    Yea got 12 but did have to review how the hell one did long division again. I like how the site accuses you of cheating if you got 12.

  98. John64

    The timing on this occasion is quite wonderful; the AFP aren’t too short staffed to raid the AWU’s offices over GetUp! donations.

  99. srr

    Old School Conservative
    #2531944, posted on October 24, 2017 at 4:52 pm

    Geeze srr that Bill Mitchell twitter video is vile.
    Can we have a warning in future?
    Perhaps, Not Suitable For Home Viewing?
    Stomach Churning?
    Abandon Hope All Ye Who Enter Here?

    I repeat 🙄

    srr
    #2531934, posted on October 24, 2017 at 4:37 pm

    Bill Mitchell‏Verified account @mitchellvii 2h2 hours ago

    YourVoice America (10/23) – Establishment Hears Bannon War Drums! http://ow.ly/liVT30g56pI 5

    https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/922674121586114561

    holier-than-thou-cows remain deaf …. while deciding the slaughter order of their sacrificial fatted calves … 🙄

  100. Nick

    Lol, the AFP one minute are leaking info to Shorten and the next, investigating him.

  101. Sydney Boy

    Hahahaha. Whatever Dot’s doing I wish him well.

    Dot’s a him? I always thought Dot was a her.

  102. srr

    AFP raids Australian Workers’ Union headquarters in Sydney, Melbourne as part of GetUp investigation
    Updated 22 minutes ago

    The Australian Federal Police is currently raiding the Australian Workers’ Union offices in Melbourne and Sydney.

    The investigation relates to whether donations made to activist group GetUp were authorised under union rules.

    The Australian Electoral Commission (AEC) has asked GetUp to abide by disclosure laws that would require it to outline what funding it receives and how it is spent.

    Groups subjected to such obligations are known as “associated entities” which are defined as a group controlled by one or more political parties, or operating to a significant extent for the benefit of political parties.

    In a letter obtained by the ABC, the AEC said there were grounds to suggest GetUp’s activities last year could be seen as having benefited Labor and the Greens.

    GetUp has denied the claims and insisted it is an independent movement.

    More to come.

  103. srr

    someone in canberra told me they don’t trust my news sources – the abc news app is all they use – that was for them

  104. Mark from Melbourne

    Gosh, thinking back to a high school education which included quadratic equations and Latin, I feel sorry for the current crop.

    + many, Johanna.

  105. Des Deskperson

    From the Canberra Times ‘live’ reporting on Senate Estimates hearings:

    “Michelle Guthrie, the managing director of the ABC, is appearing before a Senate estimates committee.

    Ms Guthrie is being asked about the government’s desire that it should reveal the salaries of its highest paid staff.

    Ms Guthrie doesn’t understand why salaries should be revealed: “It’s massively unfair to our journalists.””

    The issue is apparently ‘privacy’

  106. Nick

    Ms Guthrie doesn’t understand why salaries should be revealed: “It’s massively unfair to our journalists.””
    The issue is apparently ‘privacy’

    Phew, luckily the ABC had nothing,nothing at all to say about Lisa Wilkinson’s pay. Oh wait..

  107. srr

    🙂

    srr
    #2531914, posted on October 24, 2017 at 4:16 pm

    but the questions remain – who ate Dot and the others, who are next on that menu, and, who will blow the whistle 😀

  108. Arnost

    In Q 7 you can get the last 05 of the answer easily reducing the options to the last 2. [Multiplying and adding 9 x 345 + 8 x 45(0) = …105 + 600. But you need to do the 8 x to get the next number (500) to add to confirm the finishing 205. But that seems cumbersome compared to the other more logical rather than numerical solutions… Hence why I’m asking if the 123456789 value has a significance…

  109. srr

    btw, when did the Bishop, Abbott, Gillard et al financial support (with Australians money), for the Clinton Crime Cartel stop being of interest?

    FBI Informant Has Emails and Video Evidence of Russian Efforts to Win Favor of Clintons in Uranium One Deal (Video)

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/10/fbi-informant-emails-video-evidence-russian-efforts-win-favor-clintons-uranium-one-deal-video/

    The Clintons and Their Corruptocrats — Quadrant Online

    Jul 26, 2016 – Australian governments’ $85 million aid to the Clinton Foundation is a bit surprising, given that ex-President Bill and presidential candidate Hillary are synonyms for financial and personal sleaze.
    That total sum was paid by both Coalition and Labor governments over the past decade. Coalition and Labor have also despatched and committed $460m to the Clinton-affiliated Global Partnership for Education, chaired by our ex-PM Julia Gillard. Abbott’s Foreign Minister Julie Bishop threw Gillard’s show a lazy $140 million of taxpayer money in 2014, no questions asked. That aid was in the teeth of Gillard’s lusty presidential campaigning for Hillary against Trump. …

    RTWT –
    https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2016/07/clintons-corruptocrats/

  110. Top Ender

    Elon’s Mars plans are going well

    Eyrie, I hope you’re right.

    Given though nothing has been done so far along the lines of sending a monkey to Mars and bringing it back, hopefully alive, I’m not filled with confidence his project can be achieved in time.

  111. Steve trickler.

    Good stuff.

    Love the pilots requesting holds with ATC to watch the final take off. All the pilots jumping in on frequency paying respects.



  112. test pattern

    ‘Australia’s Secret WW2 Scorched Earth plans’

    WA’s wartime Premier Frank Wise wrote in his memoirs of an officer named Mitchell in charge of scorched earth in the NW, commenting that after he’d had all the pearling luggers burned he had to stop him destroying the Wyndham meatworks and that Mitchell would’ve burned down every shearing shed if he hadn’t been prevented.

  113. Mark from Melbourne

    Arnost
    #2531984, posted on October 24, 2017 at 5:49 pm

    I feel your pain. I am only too happy to be proven wrong, but that question is, I think, soluble only after actually doing (quelle horreur!) work.

  114. srr

    btw, it was my assessment that most canberran tax hoovers simply don’t have the fashion or other sense to warrant throwing so much money at them, so ….

  115. Viva

    AFP raids Australian Workers’ Union headquarters in Sydney, Melbourne

    Finally Turnbull showing a bit of mongrel??

  116. DrBeauGan

    I don’t think it does arnost. That was the one I got wrong because I guessed, being much too lazy to look for a pen and paper. The others are easily done in your head. If it’s big enough.

  117. Leigh Lowe

    Mark A … I saw you asked what CD I was listening to as a sleep aid.
    Too late. I had already nodded off.
    Anyway it is called “klapa vestibul” but I wouldn’t think it is on general release. There are no publishing references on the sleeve.
    “Klapa” is a type of Dalmatian acapallela singing for 4-12 men and the songs are traditional but largely derived from Gregorian chants.
    They sing in the ruins of an old vestibule, hence the name.
    If you are interested their email is [email protected].
    The CD cost me roughly AUD 20.

  118. Oh come on

    Melania Trump, the mother of the president’s youngest child, 11-year-old Barron, pledged during the 2016 campaign to make the fight against bullying a priority as first lady…but her choice of a cause to champion has consistently raised eyebrows…to hammer the point home, the Washington Post ran an annotated version of Melania Trump’s statement on Monday’s visit — linking to more than a dozen tweets in which Trump variously labelled his opponents with the terms “loser, “idiot,” “dummy,” “failed,” “moron,” “dope.”

    Hahahahahahaha they have never got over Trump’s win. I don’t think they ever will. Look how stung they are, even now. Aww did the mean pwesident call you some nasty names on Twitter?

    WaPo’s preachy post-Obama slogan “Democracy Dies In Darkness” sounds preposterously self-important and whiny. Poor, suffering martyrs of the Trumpenreich, they are.

  119. Tintarella di Luna

    Gee a raid on the Sydney and Melbourne offices of the AWU – I wonder if they’ve had a tip that the AWU Reform file is being used to even up the leg of the coffee table?

  120. test pattern

    ‘Australia’s Secret WW2 Scorched Earth plans’

    ‘During the Second World War a mysterious lodger with suspected ties to the Axis powers was captured after allegedly conducting secret reconnaissance missions in the area.’

    http://www.abc.net.au/tv/whosbeensleeping/houses/roleystone.htm

    This storyline was developed from a local historian’s reading of the remaining SWOCH and Rottnest logs.

    Some local historians probing the personal history of Sato Ken, the appointed Chief of Occupied Australia, have long believed he had been with an advance party inserted on the Canning Dam, then hidden by local collaborators who worked in forestry. Many migrants who worked in the industry attended WA facsist meetings. Logs for the dates involved show intensive air surveillance of the dam, but not before or after. Sato Ken was in responsible for the interrogation of Australian POWs and should’ve been brought to justice for war crimes. He wasn’t, allegedly because he knew too much about Australian Vichy figures. Warner pere tried to elicit names from him but failed.

  121. thefrolickingmole

    As usual testesplatter takes an actual incident and paints it in mardi gras colors to show how uniqely evil the debildebil white man was.

    Getting rid of civilian boats from the area was a good idea based on what had already been observed of Japanese resourcefulness.
    http://www.navalofficer.com.au/broome-pearl-luggers/
    The Australian Government noticed that during their conquest of Malaya in December 1941 and January 1942, the Japanese appropriated local craft to transport their troops in a series of generally unopposed amphibious landings. The RAN therefore commandeered all the better Broome luggers in January 1942, sailed them to Fremantle and burned the rest. Nearly all of the better divers were lost about the same time when the government interned everyone suspected of Japanese ethnicity.

    The Pacific War had a profound effect on Broome. Less than three months after Pearl Harbor, on 3 March 1942, nine Japanese A6M2 Zero aircraft from Timor (a 964 nm round trip), led by LEUT Zenjiro Miyano, swept in low, strafing the harbour and airfield. This remarkably successful raid by a handful of naval fighters killed between 70 and 100 people and destroyed 24 aircraft for the loss of two Zeroes.

    You arent even a good troll, you just spatter your matter with no regard to facts.

  122. Delta A

    The arithmetic test is simply a test of procedures (long division/multiplication, brackets) combined with basic multiplication skills, (probably learned by rote,) with a dash of approximation and self-correction.

    Of the ‘one in ten’ supposedly able to complete this accurately, I suspect that 90% would be of or before the boomer age, 8% would be the next generations who listened during maths classes and the final 1%* just lucky guessers.

    *Yeah yeah, just a joke between us maths lovers.

  123. calli

    Anyway, it wasn’t maths, it was arithmetic. Different subject altogether.

    Yep. I thought there might be some horrid geometry and algebra. Did it in a flash with the help of my trusty propelling pencil and scrap paper. Somewhere, deep in the recesses of my memorabilia box is a slide rule. Amazing contraption.

  124. Spider

    French president Macron’s labrador pisses on the gilded fireplace during meeting.

    It’s laugh all round. And besides its a rescue dog so it proves even more he’s a good guy.

    Now I just want you to imagine the reaction if Trumps dog pissed on a fireplace in the White House during a meeting.

    Do you think the MSM would have laughed it off light heartedly?

  125. thefrolickingmole

    Slide rule?
    Is that when you always let the fat kid go before you in case he lands on you at the bottom?

  126. calli

    Noice, Delta. We have twelve questions with four possible answers.

    What are the odds Cat bookies?

  127. calli

    The others are easily done in your head. If it’s big enough.

    The Ruddbot and the Termite would have no difficulty then. 😃

  128. Nick

    Now I just want you to imagine the reaction if Trumps dog pissed on a fireplace in the White House during a meeting.

    Let’s see, words such as badly behaved, ill disciplined, bad tempered, having a name with racist connotations, etc etc would be used.

  129. calli

    Was Dot eaten? Well I’ll be.

    Poor bugger.

  130. Senile Old Guy

    Binomial distribution (n=12, p=0.25)
    f(x) F(x) 1 – F(x)
    x Pr[X = x] Pr[X ≤ x] Pr[X > x]
    0 0.0317 0.0317 0.9683
    1 0.1267 0.1584 0.8416
    2 0.2323 0.3907 0.6093
    3 0.2581 0.6488 0.3512
    4 0.1936 0.8424 0.1576
    5 0.1032 0.9456 0.0544
    6 0.0401 0.9857 0.0143
    7 0.0115 0.9972 0.0028
    8 0.0024 0.9996 0.0004
    9 0.0004 1.0000 0.0000
    10 0.0000 1.0000 0.0000
    11 0.0000 1.0000 0.0000
    12 0.0000 1.0000 0.0000

    There you go. Odds of r success in n = 12 trials with p = 0.25.

  131. Delta A

    Winston Smith

    #2531972, posted on October 24, 2017 at 5:29 pm

    Bloody skites.

    Winston, you’ve occasionally mentioned your incredible medical career, no doubt achieved with intricate maths procedures relevant to nursing.

    You have also mentioned your disability which, no doubt, has impaired many of the functions which we daily take for granted.

    IMO, surviving a debilitating illness is a greater achievement than an oldie remembering her BODMAS.

  132. DrBeauGan

    Noice, Delta. We have twelve questions with four possible answers.

    What are the odds Cat bookies?

    One in four raised to the power 12, which is 2^{24}.

    2^4 = 16, 2^{20} = 2^{10} squared and 2^{10} = 1,024. (Everybody knows that).

    So it’s rather worse than one chance in sixteen million.

  133. herodotus

    7 News just reported that someone has put $100,000 on Winx at $1.15 for the Cox Plate.

  134. DrBeauGan

    Which is indeed zero to four decimal places, for what that’s worth.

  135. Mullumhillbilly

    Mark from Melbourne
    #2531899, posted on October 24, 2017 at 3:47 pm
    12345 x 6789

    12/12, and no pencil.
    But I did take a lucky guess on that one, two of the answers were quite close

  136. test pattern

    ‘an actual incident and paints it in mardi gras colors to show how uniqely evil the debildebil white man was.’

    So Wise wasn’t a whitefella then? Perhaps you’d better read his memoirs if ur interested in the period molesworth.

    ‘3 March 1942, nine Japanese A6M2 Zero aircraft from Timor (a 964 nm round trip), led by LEUT Zenjiro Miyano, swept in low, strafing the harbour and airfield.’

    The previous day a recce flight had flown low over the Koolinda, on the mud at low tide, skippered by Capt Frank Eggleston. Koolinda wasn’t attacked the next day and the story grew that she was under the protection of the Emperor in gratitude for having saved Japanese crew from two luggers during a blow in 1935, when Capt Airey had her. Airey and his crew had received telegrams of appreciation from Japanese organisations in WA. The story was believed by almost everyone on the coast, civilian and military, and is recounted in a history of Stateships, which notes that it can’t be confirmed. Some WA based historians believe it was in Japan’s interest to manufacture such a belief, to cultivate sympathisers. The submarine attack on Port Gregory had nothing to do with Guadalcanal and was most likely meant to stiffen the morale of the ‘Geraldton Syndicate’ of axis collaborators.

  137. herodotus

    Do you think the ABC might institute a series of reports raising awareness of honour killings in much the same way as they have 24/7 forever boosted coverage of other forms of domestic violence and child abuse?

  138. rickw

    The ABC won’t comply with the government’s demand to reveal salaries of presenters earning more than $200,000 #estimates

    Should be simple to resolve:

    No compliance = no funding.

  139. calli

    Thanks guys. I’ll buy a lottery ticket rather than guessing (which I didn’t do – my day job is all about making sure).

  140. rickw

    Was Dot eaten? Well I’ll be.

    Poor bugger.

    Did he catch up for a coffee with Grogery?

  141. thefrolickingmole

    Testes is mainlining bath salts again i see.

    The submarine attack on Port Gregory had nothing to do with Guadalcanal and was most likely meant to stiffen the morale of the ‘Geraldton Syndicate’ of axis collaborators.

    Heres a hint for you testes, my grandmother was working in Port Gregory during WW2 and was present when the survivors of the Kormoran were trucked out by the army. She saw or heard nothing about sympathizers who might have been expected to have taken at least a little interest in that incident

    Keep your disgusting “axis sympathizers” crap to yourself you silly little man.

  142. Eyrie

    Top ender, there are no plans by SpaceX to send monkeys anywhere. No need. We know the radiation environment, humans can survive zero g for a year and it is just a matter of engineering the rocket hardware. The mission architecture is very simple with minimum numbers of different vehicles – one booster stage, one cargo ship/tanker and one passenger ship. The really nice part is the system can be everything from a point to point transport on Earth to a lunar surface and return ship and a Mars ship so when built it opens up all sorts of things that can be done in space.
    There’s no great hurry either. If the schedule slips there is a Mars transfer opportunity every 2 years.
    As SpaceX currently is routinely launching and recovering Falcon 9 vehicles and making money while doing so I say the Mars trip is a good bet but someone will probably pay SpaceX to set up transport for a Lunar base first.

  143. test pattern

    Sato Ken

    ‘In December 1945 in Japan, Melbourne Herald journalist Denis Warner interviewed a Japanese Officer
    awaiting possible war crimes indictment. He was Kennosuke Sato, American educated, associated with
    brutal interrogation of Australian POWs in the Ofuna camp, a veteran of the invasion of China where he held the army rank of Lieutenant General, later a specialist consultant in Australian affairs at Imperial Japanese Naval HQ, Tokyo. In 1935 Sato had come to Australia as a foreign affairs editor for a Japanese newspaper, and stayed nine months. Whilst here he moved in the best of circles and made friends amongst business and pastoral elites. Sato told Warner of his hidden agenda. His mission to Australia had been to sound out and cultivate proJapanese interests. Following the 1942 invasion of Australia he was to be the Chief Civil Administration, a role he expected to perform with specially groomed Japanese administrators and the assistance of what hetermed Australian ‘co-operators’. Sato never faced charges. Following interrogation by US Counter Intelligence he returned briefly to journalism, retired in October, 1946, and died in 1967. His family, employer, and Japanese authorities have subsequently remained either silent or been obstructionist in regard to requests for information about Sato’s life and career.’

    http://ro.uow.edu.au/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1028&context=unity

  144. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    NATIONAL BREAKING NEWS
    Kenyan police arrest husband over shooting

    Australian Associated Press
    6:57PM October 24, 2017

    The estranged husband of Australian teacher Gabrielle Maina has been arrested after the mother-of-two was shot and killed in Nairobi last week, according to media reports.

    Ms Maina’s husband, Cyrus Bernard Maina Njuguna, and another man, John Njuguna Waithira, were arrested in Kenya over Thursday’s shooting in the exclusive suburb of Karen, the ABC reports.

    Ms Maina’s lawyer, George King’ori, earlier on Tuesday told AAP the couple were in the midst of divorce proceedings in court after the 40-year-old had been granted a restraining order against her husband in April.

    “She feared her estranged husband … the husband had become very irrational,” Mr King’ori told AAP in a statement.

    Breaking news, from the Oz.

  145. Mullumhillbilly

    On the arithmetic test, it was said that only 10% will pass, presumably meaning 6/12 or better.

  146. thefrolickingmole

    As usual testes “torpedo” isnt…
    From wiki…

    After a six-day voyage southward, I-165 reached Geraldton on 27 January. However, Torisu believed that he had sighted lights of aircraft or a destroyer near the town and broke off his attack. I-165 instead headed north for Port Gregory a former whaling, lead and salt port. At around midnight on 28 January, the submarine’s crew fired 10 rounds from her 100 mm (3.9 in) deck gun at the town. The shells appear to have completely missed Port Gregory and did not result in any damage or casualties for the town was not occupied and the raid initially went unnoticed.[69] While gunfire was sighted by nearby coastwatchers, Allied naval authorities only learned of the attack when Lt. Cdr. Torisu’s battle report radio signal was intercepted and decoded a week later. As a result, the attack was not successful in diverting attention away from Guadalcanal

  147. DrBeauGan

    As SpaceX currently is routinely launching and recovering Falcon 9 vehicles and making money while doing so I say the Mars trip is a good bet but someone will probably pay SpaceX to set up transport for a Lunar base first.

    We should crowd fund a lunar base. It would be a grand demonstration of what capitalism can do.

  148. calli

    In support of my comment at 6:38 I offer the Cats this.

    Macrocraniumed geniusessessess.

  149. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Following the 1942 invasion of Australia he was to be the Chief Civil Administration, a role he expected to perform with specially groomed Japanese administrators and the assistance of what hetermed Australian ‘co-operators’.

    The invasion planned by the Japanese Navy in March 1942, after the fall of Singapore, but vetoed by the Japanese Army, because they couldn’t allocate the nine to twelve divisions they calculated would be required for occupation duties or the half million tone of merchant shipping to supply those troops?

  150. Atoms for Peace

    Just testing a theory’
    If I was involved in a car accident occasionally injury to another party, should I expect to be BAC tested ?
    If not, why not ?

  151. test pattern

    ‘Keep your disgusting “axis sympathizers” crap to yourself’

    No. Fuck off.

    The Geraldton Syndicate allegedly included McKenna, Weir, Latham among others. Japan first learned of iron in Yampi Sound when they found out that luggers went there to load ballast. The Geraldton syndicate wanted to sell ore from Yampi and from the Surprise mine near Galena to a Japanese company known to be running spies in WA. One of them was apparently turned and the venture thwarted.

    The Perth and Southwest fascist collaborators are better known because of their trial. They’d planned to assasinate Bennett of Singapore when he was based in Perth, the Premier and Councillor Boas because he was a J, round up and hand over to the Axis for elimination all Communists and Js.

  152. rickw

    We should crowd fund a lunar base. It would be a grand demonstration of what capitalism can do.

    I would be up for that, the sooner we leave earth the sooner we slip the bonds of socialism once and for all.

  153. herodotus

    Bolt just had one of his slips – tried to tell Abetz that the raids on unions were under rules that “the government” had set down. Abetz quite rightly said that “the parliament” had passed those rules.
    If a sensible government could act without the goat rodeo we now have, Bolt would be able to say what he did without demur.

  154. Senile Old Guy

    test pattern is quoting book reviews from the Communist Party of Australia journal. A source of impeccable quality.

  155. test pattern

    ‘From wiki…’

    That is the Japanese version. They lied. Not for the first or last time. It had absolutely nothing to do with Guadalcanal u naive moron.

  156. thefrolickingmole

    Teste splatter goes the full retard.
    Never go the full retard.

    The bits you are posting are furphies in general, speculations and castles in the sky.
    There was no plan to invade Australia in any meanigful sense of the word, therefore no “plans” to mine iron at Yampi you goon bag for a pillow fantasist.

  157. Atoms for Peace

    Testes is the Harry Turtledove of the Cat

  158. test pattern

    ‘The invasion planned by the Japanese Navy in March 1942’

    Japan cultivated the WA invasion threat as part of psyops. The infamous Jurien Bay map obtained from occupied Manchuria is believed to have come from one of the Japanese Naval Reserve officers who had worked on Broome luggers prior to ww2 and had been reassigned to China. Likewise, the dummy submarine snorkels dropped along the coast. As late as May 1944 US Dutch and Aust with Operation Potshot were conducting operations in preparation for an invasion. The Dutch of course were notoriously useless and earned the acronym ‘AIF’ – Always In Fremantle.

  159. test pattern

    ‘no “plans” to mine iron at Yampi’

    Details of the plan to mine Yampi are in the National Archives. A British company had the leases. It was prevented for the obvious security reasons.

  160. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    As late as May 1944 US Dutch and Aust with Operation Potshot were conducting operations in preparation for an invasion.

    An invasion which the code breakers had advised that there was no danger of, by the end of 1942?

  161. test pattern

    ‘Keep your disgusting “axis sympathizers” crap to yourself’

    CONSPIRACY TRIAL
    STARTLING EVIDENCE
    DECOY’S REVELATIONS
    ALLEGED FIFTH COLUMN

    ‘A list was then drawn up, including the name of Maj-General Gordon Bennett on the suggestion of Krakouer. Several men, including W. Basley of the Special Bureau were described by Bullock as
    his “personal problems,” and he put their names on the liquidation list. He asked Williams if he had any “personal problems.” Williams said, that he could not think of any at the moment. Referring to the people listed, Krakouer said that they should be tortured first. Bullock said “If I had to choose between liquidating Premier Willcock and Cr Boas,it would be Cr Boas.” He then said, “We’ll now draw up a list of places to be sabotaged.” Williams, referring to a proposal to blow up the Bayswater subway, said, “This will destroy all transport, north, south and east.”
    Williams suggested the blowing-up of the railway bridge at Rivervale, Bullock the East Perth Power House, Krakouer, Mundaring Weir and the Canning Dam’

    http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/47331668/3737894?searchTerm=

  162. test pattern

    ‘An invasion which the code breakers had advised that there was no danger of, by the end of 1942?’

    Obviously not everyone believed it due to successful Japanese psyops. Curtin himself may have been influenced.

  163. Snoopy

    Why is SBS pixelating the face of the “Melbourne man who has faced court” for sending funding to an ISIS fighter? Money from his pension, FFS!

  164. Arky

    I already told you people I killed Dot.
    Its OK though, I respected his final wishes that he be allowed to marry a heroin dealing gay refugee porpoise first.
    Let that be a lesson to any others of you who want to rabbit on incessantly about 3D printing.
    NADT.

  165. calli

    Amust be in different time zones, Snoopy.

    On SBS just now, watching magnificent Case tractors roll off the production line in Racine. Portillo is doing Milwaukee to Chicago by rail. He had a chat to the g g grandson of Davidson – nice bike!

    Ad break – wyminnses “let’s talk about sexual harassment”. Sigh.

  166. Oh come on

    The Daily Wire is reacting to CNN’s stupid ‘this is an apple’ ad:

    This is a man

    This is CNN

    Talk about an open goal for CNN’s many detractors.

  167. zyconoclast

    Maths quiz : http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=11936195

    I didn’t realise till Q7 that I could use a pen and paper. I got them all right.

  168. Snoopy

    I missed the first 3 minutes of ABC News. Any report on the AFP’s AWU raids?

  169. DrBeauGan

    “let’s talk about sexual harassment”.

    ” No. You don’t deserve any. Besides, you’re ugly.”. (That would be my answer.)

  170. I must be the only one who has Testes Pattern on automatic scroll past.

  171. Oh come on

    Adam, are you insane?

  172. zyconoclast

    Labor senator Louise Pratt, the committee’s deputy chair and a member of the Parliament’s LGBTI group, said it was “quite disturbing” that Liberal senators were “seeking to make political capital out of the tragic death of a deeply unwell man”.

    She doesn’t want anyone to criticise her necro-homo fiance.
    Its add another rainbow colour to her freak show of a life.
    Fido will be next…

  173. OCO,

    No. My mother had me tested.

  174. Oh come on

    Seriously. Almost everyone ignores Testes by default.

    Why do we get such a bad rap? On another thread someone recently said accused most of the blog of preferring Turnbull over Abbott! Like, what? Has this person been paying the slightest bit of attention to the OT discussions since Abbott was knifed?

  175. Oh come on

    Going on gender status alone, Pratt’s transitioned ‘husband’ has a 40% chance of ‘his’ life ending in suicide. If I were Pratt, I’d be spending more time at home keeping an eye on her significant other.

  176. Mark A

    Atoms for Peace
    #2532055, posted on October 24, 2017 at 7:32 pm

    Testes is the Harry Turtledove of the Cat

    Except he is far less amusing or even worth reading.

  177. Seriously. Almost everyone ignores Testes by default.

    I thought so too until I got to this open thread.

  178. Snoopy

    Did ABC News cover Googles Guthrie sticking it to the Senate committee? Are ABC salaries as unmentionable as ABC p3dos?

  179. zyconoclast

    The estranged husband of Australian teacher Gabrielle Maina has been arrested after the mother-of-two was shot and killed in Nairobi last week, according to media reports.

    Ms Maina’s husband, Cyrus Bernard Maina Njuguna, and another man, John Njuguna Waithira, were arrested in Kenya over Thursday’s shooting in the exclusive suburb of Karen, the ABC reports.

    Ms Maina’s lawyer, George King’ori, earlier on Tuesday told AAP the couple were in the midst of divorce proceedings in court after the 40-year-old had been granted a restraining order against her husband in April.

    “She feared her estranged husband … the husband had become very irrational,” Mr King’ori told AAP in a statement.

    Kerry Batty was not available for comment.

  180. Bruce in WA

    Likewise, the dummy submarine snorkels dropped along the coast.

    What? Why? By whom? The Japanese had just two submarines equipped with snorkels. One was scuttled; the other sunk by the Americans.

  181. Arky

    I didn’t realise till Q7 that I could use a pen and paper. I got them all right

    ..
    It’s only a hard test if you went to school after education was destroyed in about 1970.
    Which would have been me, except I cheated by spending 20 years teaching maths.

  182. test pattern

    Some notes on Aboriginal slavery in WA from police files.

    1878 Robe River absconded from HB Woolhouse

    1875 Exmouth Gulf attack by Gascoyne natives on cutter ‘Albert.’ 2 killed. The men wanted to return to their country.

    1881 Dongara. absconding from Lachlan McPherson

    1879 Kojonup. absconding from F.Hassell. Discharged to return to master.

    1870 Roebourne. Gave their reason for absconding as fear of water. Scholl gave them option of returning to Rottnest but they preferred to ramain on the ‘Ardur.’

    1884. 38 Aboriginal divers on ‘Argo’ beaten and given little rations. Ran away.

    1887 Gascoyne. Property of James Aitken of Bundarra.

    1879 18 divers absconded from ‘Ethel’ Exmouth Gulf. 14 days hard labour.

    1886 Claim to have been kidnapped by McPherson ‘n****r hunter’ acting for Mcrae

    1884 Gascoyne. property of Gooch and Wheelock.

    to be continued

  183. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Major step in push for Australian republic: Labor appoints a ‘Shadow Assistant Minister for an Australian Head of State’
    Claire Bickers, National Politics Reporter, News Corp Australia Network
    October 24, 2017 2:49pm

    LABOR has learned lessons from the failed 1999 campaign for Australia to become a republic, says the shadow minister appointed to officially manage the future transition.

    In a reshuffle of his frontbench today, Opposition Leader Bill Shorten appointed NSW MP Matt Thistlethwaite to be the first ‘Shadow Assistant Minister for an Australian Head of State’.

    Mr Thistlethwaite told News Corp that Labor wants to build a Republic for the people.

    “We’ll make sure this time that it’s not seen as a politicians’ republic, it’s not seen as something that’s coming from Canberra,” he said.

    “That’s why Bill’s appointed me to this position, to get out in the community.

    “I’m going to work with other political parties but most importantly I’m going to work with the Australian people to build this consensus for this important change to our Constitution.”

    Mr Shorten announced the appointment today as part of the push to break away from Britain and become a Republic.

    Mr Thistlethwaite said as a “proud and patriotic” Australian, he despaired that a local could not become the head of state.

    What’s happening in Federal politics that Whining William is dragging out the old diversion of a Republic? Didn’t we vote NO to a Republic headed by a President chosen by both Houses of Parliament, already?

  184. Entropy

    Let’s talk about sexual harassment

  185. Zulu,

    You would almost think that the will of the Australian people counts for nothing.

  186. Crossie

    Just finished watching Milo Yianopoulos’ interview with Ross Cameron on Sky. It was a tour de force. That boy can talk and make sense.

  187. stackja

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2532093, posted on October 24, 2017 at 8:48 pm

    Matt Thistlethwaite
    From Wikipedia

    Early life and background

    In 2004 Thistlethwaite was elected deputy assistant secretary of Unions NSW.[3] In this role he represented workers in public sector enterprise agreement negotiations and in the NSW Industrial Relations Commission. He was a co-ordinator of the Your Rights at Work campaign in New South Wales against the Howard Government’s WorkChoices laws. Thistlethwaite is a former director of the State Transit Authority of NSW, and the NSW Manufacturing Council. He was a member of the Racing Industry Participants Advisory Council, and an executive member of the NSW Jockeys Association. He was elected general secretary of NSW Labor from 2008–2010.[4] During his time as NSW ALP secretary Thistlethwaite backed Frank Sartor’s unsuccessful candidacy to replace premier Nathan Rees and Rees was instead replaced by Kristina Keneally.[5] Before entering Parliament, Thistlethwaite worked as a senior consultant with law firm Mallesons Stephen Jaques.[3]

  188. Rabz

    Why is SBS pixelating the face of the “Melbourne man who has faced court” for sending funding to an ISIS fighter?

    You mean this Mosquebourne man?

  189. stackja

    Adam
    #2532074, posted on October 24, 2017 at 8:08 pm
    I must be the only one who has Testes Pattern on automatic scroll past.

    Only know of TP’s comments because of other’s comments about TP.

  190. Rabz

    I must be the only one who has Testes Pattern on automatic scroll past.

    Believe me, you most certainly are not.

  191. zyconoclast

    It’s only a hard test if you went to school after education was destroyed in about 1970.
    Which would have been me, except I cheated by spending 20 years teaching maths.

    I started school after that date but my memories of having many oldies as teachers in primary school.
    My guess is that they were not exposed to cultural Marxism in teaching college.

  192. zyconoclast

    Why is SBS pixelating the face of the “Melbourne man who has faced court” for sending funding to an ISIS fighter?

    You mean this Mosquebourne man?

    Man! That halal junk food must be extra fattening.

  193. Rabz

    Keystone Cops finally retire from the field after causing a global shortage of podiatrists:

    An investigation into whether a Richmond player illegally shared a picture of a topless woman wearing an AFL premiership medal has been dropped.

    Victoria Police say the woman at the centre of the footy sexting scandal has asked for the investigation to stop but it could reopen “at a later date”.

    From the Oz.

  194. hzhousewife

    Milo is simply delicious, I smile just watching him be gorgeous.
    Plus, he says good stuff too, bonus!

  195. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    For Cats with an interest in matters military, the proceedings of the 1997 Chief of Army’s History Conference “The Second Fifty Years – The Australian Army 1947 – 1997” make interesting reading. There’s a good account of the rise and fall of the Pentropic Division.

    It’s a collection of articles – I’m wondering in a few years time whether they’ll be a piece on “Towards A Transgender Army” and, a few years after that on “How We Negotiated the Surrender to the Middle Kingdom.”

  196. Rabz

    That halal junk food must be extra fattening.

    Has anyone ever seen a moozley over the age of thirty in this country who isn’t morbidly obese?

    It’s a serious question. I certainly haven’t.

  197. Nick

    Victoria Police say the woman at the centre of the footy sexting scandal has asked for the investigation to stop but it could reopen “at a later date”.

    FFS. This is blackmail.

  198. Des Deskperson

    “Ad break – wyminnses “let’s talk about sexual harassment”. Sigh.”

    As part of the ‘discussion’ – it’s SBS’s ‘Insight’ – they have found bloke who claims to be a victim of women over-reacting to his attempts at friendship and who is arguing that the whole issue of sexual harassment in the workplace has been blow up out of all proportion.

    He is clearly unaware that he has been deliberately set up by the producers because, whatever the merits of his claims, he comes across as unattractive and creepy.

  199. rickw

    That halal junk food must be extra fattening.

    Has anyone ever seen a moozley over the age of thirty in this country who isn’t morbidly obese?

    It’s a serious question. I certainly haven’t.

    Nope, not only do they do fuck all real work, they’re a healthcare time bomb.

  200. Rabz

    This is blackmail.

    So how many players took a photo – the entire squad?

  201. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Victoria Police say the woman at the centre of the footy sexting scandal has asked for the investigation to stop but it could reopen “at a later date”.

    i.e she got paid off.

  202. Top Ender

    Dem’s comforting words Eyrie.

    As a young chap I was a keen enthusiast of the Apollo program, and also read heaps of “hard” SF: Heinlein, Asimov, Clarke, Haldeman, Niven and Pournelle etc.

    Hugely disappointed when the USA walked away from the Moon base concept and didn’t press on to Mars. Instead the human race turned to being obsessed with something few SF writers predicted: bloody mobile phones!

  203. marcus classis

    Has anyone ever seen a moozley over the age of thirty in this country who isn’t morbidly obese?
    It’s a serious question. I certainly haven’t.

    Agreed. Wandered past the TV at work and there was some show being advertised about a pack of horrendously ugly landwhale mohammedan sisters, some kind of cooking show (?)

    I mean, a silverback gorilla would be thinking ‘cripes, they are seriously fugly she-gorillas, not to mention excessively hairy’.

    The obvious results of 1400 years of rooting first cousins in second preference to goats.

  204. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    I must be the only one who has Testes Pattern on automatic scroll past.

    Believe me, you most certainly are not.

    ditto.

  205. marcus classis

    Likewise, the dummy submarine snorkels dropped along the coast.

    Nope. They dropped dummy submarine periscopes.

  206. testpattern

    Oh dear. Not a single bigotsworth among you familiar with the literature of wartime wa and the archival material from which it draws. Cognitive dissonance, the last resort of the threatened bigot.

  207. Tel

    I must be the only one who has Testes Pattern on automatic scroll past.

    You know how the young folks say, “There’s an app for that” … well in this case why isn’t there?

    Do I need to do everything myself?

    I want my automatic thumb saver. They are telling me AI robots will drive trucks and I’m supposed to believe that’s safe, but why can’t I have a browser that drives over the crap I don’t want to read? Go on…

  208. Bruce in WA

    Nope. They dropped dummy submarine periscopes.

    Now that makes sense!

  209. Josh

    The Richmond boobs saga finishes almost identically to the Richmond chopsticks saga a couple of years ago.

    The club and the AFL have this down to a fine art.

  210. testpattern

    Not a single bigotsworth among you familiar with the literature of wartime wa and the archival material from which it draws. Cognitive dissonance, the last resort of the threatened bigot.

    Applies to the history of indigenous slavery in wa too.

  211. Snoopy

    The Richmond boobs saga finishes almost identically

    What happened? Photos please.

  212. Delta;
    Nah.
    For the last twenty odd years, it was “Meh. Close enough.”
    🙂

  213. zyconoclast

    Has anyone ever seen a moozley over the age of thirty in this country who isn’t morbidly obese?

    What is the Islamic Stance on Obesity?

    Umar bin Al Khattab (May Allah be pleased with him) would encourage exercise and didn’t like obesity, in fact he was against obesity. He said,

    “O People! Beware of overeating because it makes you lazy in your prayer, it makes your body weak and makes you unhealthy and Allah dislikes the obese man. And you should be modest in your food because that is closer to righteousness and further from excess and makes you stronger in worshipping Allah. And you will perish when your desires become more dearer to you than Allah (azza wajal) or your religion.”

    Other quotes from the page:

    Narrated by Abu Huraira: A man used to eat much, but when he embraced Islam, he started eating less. This was mentioned to the Prophet (salalahu ‘alyhi wasalam) who then said, “A believer eats in one intestine (is satisfied with a little food) and a Kafir (disbeliever) eats in seven intestines (eats much). ” Bukhari

    On seeing a fat man, the Prophet (salalahu ‘alyhi wasalam) said:
    “If you did not have a paunch (belly fat), it would be better for you”.

    He also said:

    “Overeating does not go with good health.” [Al-Haythami]

    In summary, amongst the causes of weak faith is overeating, which leads to sleeping a lot and has a detrimental effect in your worship to Allah, laziness in your prayer, makes your body weak and unhealthy. The decline and unfortunate circumstances the Ummah is faced with today in Muslim lands is because our desires are more dearer to us than Allah (Azza wajal) and our religion, Al-Islam. The Prophet (salalahu ‘alyhi wasalam) said:

    “The one who is physically healthy, safe in his community and is sufficiently nurtured will possess the whole world.” (Tirmidhi)

    We end with a saying of Umar bin Al Khattab (May Allah be pleased with him):

    “To eat less is healthy, to speak less is wisdom, and to sleep less is worship.”

  214. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Wo ist Herr Dot?

  215. Myrddin Seren

    Wo ist Herr Dot?

    We seem to have lost Dweezy as well.

    Nobody leave the site except with a buddy. It’s quiet out there – too quiet.

  216. Steve trickler.

    Free set of stake knives for anyone that can reveal the ABC TV Sydney studio monthly power bill.

  217. Top Ender

    Meanwhile in Victoriastan:

    Year 12 dress down: Bentleigh Secondary uniform swap turns sour

    Boys at a Melbourne high school claim they were told to put on shorts after showing up for their final day of classes wearing the traditional girls’ uniform.

    But the principal says the issue was not the boys wearing dresses, but that they were too short.

    Bentleigh Secondary College year 12 students decided to swap uniforms for the day, in a final statement endorsing the Safe Schools policy of gender diversity.

    But what was planned as an empowering message to younger students quickly turned sour.

    The students claim boys were removed from class and told to change while the girls were left alone.

    Students claim principal Helene Hiotis told them their “stunt” was disrespectful and amounted to indecent exposure.

    In a statement to parents, seen by The Age, principal Helene Hiotis said the uniforms were “extremely short and worn unbuttoned, which was deemed inappropriate”.

    Ms Hiotis said the boys were asked to “tone down their outfits” after complaints from other students about the length of the dresses.

    “Not a single student has been disciplined or sent home for wearing dresses to school today,” she said.

    One student at the school said two boys wearing the school’s regulation summer dress were removed from his morning class.

    One boy left for the day, while the other stayed and refused to change.

    Year 12 students had been asked not to participate in muck-up day activities, but the student said removing people from class was more disruptive than their decision to switch uniforms.

    “It was a massive over-reaction,” the student said.

    “We’ve always been promoted as a Safe School. We’ve got posters around the school saying it’s okay to wear the other uniform if you want to.”

    Safe Schools posters previously displayed at Bentleigh Secondary featured a male student in a school dress with the words: “Everyone should be able to wear the uniform that makes them comfortable.”

    Ms Hiotis said it was an issue of modesty, not gender, and the boys had been told to wear shorts under their dresses.

    “This has nothing to do with Safe Schools,” she said.

    “Bentleigh Secondary College prides itself on being a safe and inclusive environment for all its students.”

    It’s not the first time Bentleigh Secondary has attracted criticism this year.

    In March, the school was condemned after ordering two South Sudanese students to take out their hair braids.

    The twins had worn the braids since they were babies and said the order was an attack on their African culture.

    They were ultimately offered a “school uniform exemption”.

    Meanwhile, reeding, righting, and rithmatic are all running at grade 4 levels…

    Link to The Age, where else? Comments of course not welcome.

  218. testpattern

    ‘Has anyone ever seen a moozley over the age of thirty in this country who isn’t morbidly obese?
    It’s a serious question.’

    Yes, I suspect it is. U should get out more. Nearly every woman from sudan and somalia. Skinny as. Even hen pregnant with twins. Don’t know how they do it but the fat white slags could learn from them.

  219. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    New Zealand Aims to Go Green With Electricity, Tree Planting
    New Zealand’s next government is hoping to make the nation greener by planting trees, ensuring the electricity grid runs on renewable energy, and spending more money on cycle ways and rail transport.

  220. Mark from Melbourne

    Nobody leave the site except with a buddy. It’s quiet out there – too quiet.

    Maneater on the prowl?

  221. GerardO

    Richmond will hopefully make next year’s Grand Final…and lose by 15 goals.

  222. Tel

    Bentleigh Secondary College year 12 students decided to swap uniforms for the day, in a final statement endorsing the Safe Schools policy of gender diversity.

    Valuable lesson in trolling, good to see the younger generation getting into it.

    Ms Hiotis said it was an issue of modesty, not gender, and the boys had been told to wear shorts under their dresses.

    Well there you go… we tried the experiment and discovered it’s not about equality after all. We all knew that of course, but now it’s been demonstrated.

  223. Atoms for Peace

    Short dresses don’t mater if you’re penis tucking.

  224. Oh come on
    #2532080, posted on October 24, 2017 at 8:18 pm
    Going on gender status alone, Pratt’s transitioned ‘husband’ has a 40% chance of ‘his’ life ending in suicide. If I were Pratt, I’d be spending more time at home keeping an eye on her significant other.

    Let me see if I’ve got this confusing scenario right.
    Louise Pratt loves and lives together with a woman called Renae.
    That woman then transitions into a man, Aram Hosie.
    They become poster children for the gay and transgender communities.
    Louise falls pregnant.
    The biological father is one of a gay couple, Western Australian state Labor MLC Stephen Dawson and his partner Dennis Liddelow.
    Louise and Renae Aram break up.
    Louise brings child up with Aram, Stephen, and Dennis.

    Would Hollywood be interested in this plot?

  225. OneWorldGovernment

    Steve trickler.
    #2532134, posted on October 24, 2017 at 9:37 pm

    Free set of stake knives for anyone that can reveal the ABC TV Sydney studio monthly power bill.

    Easy peasy.

    Just get the current government to pass a law that their ABC will only operate with useless wind and solar power.

    That LAW should be NOW.

    IT’S TIME.

  226. GerardO

    One of the few people considered a hero by both Commies & Nazis:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florian_Geyer

  227. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Just finished watching Milo Yianopoulos’ interview with Ross Cameron on Sky. It was a tour de force. That boy can talk and make sense.

    And look sultry hot at the same time, throwing back his pretty head.
    Yes, it was a fantastic performance. Like me on speed. Umm, I didn’t say that.
    Honest officer, I was just young and naïve and had to pass my exams somehow.
    Hairy has just booked us in to attend the extra Sydney performance.
    Whoo hoooo.

  228. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    stake knives

    Vampire special.

  229. old bloke

    test pattern
    #2532003, posted on October 24, 2017 at 6:20 pm

    ‘Australia’s Secret WW2 Scorched Earth plans’

    ‘During the Second World War a mysterious lodger with suspected ties to the Axis powers was captured after allegedly conducting secret reconnaissance missions in the area.’

    http://www.abc.net.au/tv/whosbeensleeping/houses/roleystone.htm

    Logs for the dates involved show intensive air surveillance of the dam, but not before or after.

    There were reports of small seaplanes, launched from submarines off the coast, landing at Canning Dam during the 1940’s. The Japanese spy whom was captured in Roleystone, who was asking for directions to Canning Dam, probably had a rendevous planned prior to his capture.

  230. Part of the dumbing down of Australia is the tv networks insistence on using sub titles in news and documentaries when ESL speakers are interviewed.
    Most English speaking people from overseas with good diction can be understood if you pay attention.
    Even Indians with excellent English are given subtitles.

    TV executives must think we are all gogglebox types.

  231. testpattern

    Well whaddya know. Wa police records 1872 credit indigenous man ‘curlywig’ with the discovery of copper at whim creek and the mine ‘mined by cooper and manuel.’ Poor old curly, ripped off by the invaders. Curly should be in the pilbara hall of fame.

  232. Geriatric Mayfly

    A plan to restore and preserve the Alamo
    Remaking the Alamo into the sacred place it should be. More
    American Thinker

    Given the amount of comment his place has attracted here, it is worthy of special status.

  233. Geriatric Mayfly

    ‘curlywig’ with the discovery of copper at whim creek and the mine ‘mined by cooper and manuel.’

    And curlwig immediately fashioned copper kettles and cookware, in which to boil water and cook tough old goannas.

  234. Snoopy

    Just get the current government to pass a law that their ABC will only operate with useless wind and solar power generated on site and installed subject to planning laws.

  235. Myrddin Seren

    For all of us who did the Kiwi maths quiz – racists !!!

    Of course.

  236. testpattern

    ‘There were reports of small seaplanes, launched from submarines off the coast, landing at Canning Dam during the 1940’s. The Japanese spy whom was captured in Roleystone, who was asking for directions to Canning Dam, probably had a rendevous planned prior to his capture.’

    The sole remaining swoch log records a japanese sub penetration of the innermost loop off swanbourne. A german on Rottnest disappeared and was suspected of having been picked up. The greatest concern was that he may have had knowledge departing troopships.

  237. Fisky

    Has anyone ever seen a moozley over the age of thirty in this country who isn’t morbidly obese?

    It’s especially true of the White women who convert to Islam – they’re huge!!

  238. Fisky

    Oh come on
    #2532080, posted on October 24, 2017 at 8:18 pm
    Going on gender status alone, Pratt’s transitioned ‘husband’ has a 40% chance of ‘his’ life ending in suicide. If I were Pratt, I’d be spending more time at home keeping an eye on her significant other.

    Quite remarkable that the Left advise people (especially children) to change their gender, knowing full well the odds of them committing suicide.

    Of course, their real goal is to claim that society as a whole is to blame for the suicide, so therefore we need more laws completely banning free speech, etc etc.

  239. DrBeauGan

    She worries that “curricula emphasizing terms like Pythagorean theorem and pi perpetuate a perception that mathematics was largely developed by Greeks and other Europeans.”

    It was.

    I guess the truth is no defence.

    From myrddins link.

  240. egg_

    Hollywood is Eating Itself

    Lord of the Flies style socialistas?

  241. Tel

    And look sultry hot at the same time, throwing back his pretty head.

    Ohhh that!

    I can do that.

    Did anyone tell you that from the just right angle I look a bit like Ted Cruz ?

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