Breaking News: Gawn

Early reports say Matt Canavan is eligible. Others gone.

Update: No word yet on Xenophon.

Update II: Some media reporting that Xenophon is eligible too.

 

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169 Responses to Breaking News: Gawn

  1. Rabz

    Apparently Xylophone has survived – all the rest are gorn.

  2. Rabz

    Oops – Xylophone and Caravani.

  3. stackja

    2.24PM AEDT: A summary of the High Court’s shock ruling.

    Barnaby Joyce – gone

    Fiona Nash – gone

    Malcolm Roberts – gone

    Larissa Waters – gone

    Scott Ludlam – gone

    Matt Canavan – safe

    Nick Xenophon – safe

  4. stackja

    2.26PM AEDT: Five federal MPs including Barnaby Joyce have lost their seats for being dual citizens, throwing Australian politics into unprecedented chaos. The landmark High Court ruling today is also a major blow to Malcolm Turnbull, who has now lost his one-seat majority in Parliament. Only Senator Nick Xenophon and Nationals Senator Matt Canavan have kept their seats after the ruling on the so-called ‘citizenship seven’ today. Deputy Prime Minister Joyce will now face the fight of his political career to regain the seat of New England. A by-election for the seat is expected to be called immediately. The earliest the election can be held is December 2, which will leave the PM without a majority in the lower house for one sitting week in November.

  5. Ludlam: gorn
    Waters: gorn
    Nash: gorn
    Roberts: gorn
    Joyce: gorn

    Canavan: stays
    Xenophon: stays (?)

    Cash: ???

  6. thefrolickingmole

    Good, the sooner Mao and the rest of the squishes lose government the better.
    Leave Labour to try and stamp out the flaming dog turd of governance Australia has descended into.

  7. I love it when MPs are GORN (spelling Sinc.)

    Can we now have the HC rule on the eligibility of MPs who not served the wishes of their electorate?

    Get rid of the rest of ’em.

  8. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    An excellent decision by The High Court.

    The Greens and Nationals should be disqualified as political parties for their contemptible behaviour.

  9. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Nice to see the HC respecting the Constitution for once and not inventing judgments out of whole cloth.

  10. stackja

    Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)
    #2534526, posted on October 27, 2017 at 2:32 pm
    An excellent decision by The High Court.

    The Greens and Nationals should be disqualified as political parties for their contemptible behaviour.

    And the ALP is so goody, goody.

  11. candy

    Barnaby Joyce I noticed looks really careworn of late, almost bedraggled and unhealthy, like a person under a fair amount of personal stress.

  12. stackja

    Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)
    #2534529, posted on October 27, 2017 at 2:34 pm
    Nice to see the HC respecting the Constitution for once and not inventing judgments out of whole cloth.

    Dual citizenships?

  13. Alan moran

    Such a farce! Only 40per cent of Australians automatically eligible to be MPs . Need a system whereby candidates are given the option of at time of becoming a candidate they have the option of renouncing any other citizenship affiliations. Job done!

  14. stackja

    candy
    #2534531, posted on October 27, 2017 at 2:35 pm
    Barnaby Joyce I noticed looks really careworn of late, almost bedraggled and unhealthy, like a person under a fair amount of personal stress.

    Get up effect?

  15. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    And the ALP is so goody, goody.

    Say what you will about those xunts, but they have not breached Section 44 of our Nation’s Constitution.

    The Nationals, Greens and One Nation don’t respect the very document that makes us a nation. They should all burn in hell.

  16. Phase 2: Can every piece of legislation that Bananaby Rubble voted on, be challenged in the HC? Or is automatically invalid?

  17. stackja

    Alan moran
    #2534533, posted on October 27, 2017 at 2:35 pm
    Such a farce! Only 40per cent of Australians automatically eligible to be MPs . Need a system whereby candidates are given the option of at time of becoming a candidate they have the option of renouncing any other citizenship affiliations. Job done!

    I believe many other countries don’t allow renouncing!

  18. DiNatali bagging Malcolm Roberts for being a senator drawing a salary for 3 months, Ludlum drew a salary for 9 years and Waters 6 years.

  19. calli

    I believe many other countries don’t allow renouncing!

    Malaysia?

  20. Andreas

    Say what you will about those xunts, but they have not breached Section 44 of our Nation’s Constitution.

    How would we know?

  21. stackja

    Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)
    #2534535, posted on October 27, 2017 at 2:36 pm
    And the ALP is so goody, goody.

    Say what you will about those xunts, but they have not breached Section 44 of our Nation’s Constitution.

    The Nationals, Greens and One Nation don’t respect the very document that makes us a nation. They should all burn in hell.

    How do we know about those xunts, that have not breached Section 44 of our Nation’s Constitution?

  22. True Aussie

    Time to deport them back to their native countries, recoup all the government money paid to them as salaries and perks and overturn all their decisions.

  23. True Aussie

    I believe many other countries don’t allow renouncing!

    Then those people should be ineligible for Australian citizenship

  24. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Such a farce!

    It’s not a farce at all. It has been the rule of the land since 1901. If you won’t abide our rules, fuck off.

  25. I wanna be a High Court judge.

    “You! Fsck off!”

    I would be good at announcing decisions like this.

  26. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Barnaby Joyce I noticed looks really careworn of late, almost bedraggled and unhealthy, like a person under a fair amount of personal stress.

    Well, he’s a Kiwi and they are hideously deformed mongrels.

    There’s also the matter of his private behaviour…

  27. Indolent

    While I’m glad that Canavan is still there, I can’t understand it because they were the only ones in the bunch to actively seek foreign citizenship.

    The only one I’m really sorry about is Roberts. He was the best of the bunch at articulating the idiocy of “climate change”.

  28. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Every law passed for the last 10 years should be repealed.

  29. Only 40per cent of Australians automatically eligible to be MPs

    Good.

    Can we add another test (which would make it 20%)?
    “MPs must demonstrate that they are more intelligent than a wombat.”

  30. Rockdoctor

    Still can’t believe the ALP is squeaky clean. The Ecuadorian born one Katy Gallagher disappeared of the news pages real quick… Shows how hopeless the Lib’s are they didn’t even try now Barnaby is gone but Gallagher stays even though their cases are near identical… We won’t even start on Penny Wong’s refusal to prove when she renounced Malaysian citizenship… Guaranteed to be other on the opposition bench…

  31. hzhousewife

    The only one I’m really sorry about is Roberts. He was the best of the bunch at articulating the idiocy of “climate change”.

    Correct. I hope he finds a forum to keep speaking out about it.

  32. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    The only one I’m really sorry about is Roberts. He was the best of the bunch at articulating the idiocy of “climate change”.

    He behaved like an uppity pommy smart arse about the whole affair and got his just desserts. He’s now a proven liar and has badly damaged the case ainst green insanity.

    Limey xunt.

  33. Every law passed for the last 10 years should be repealed.

    Can’t see a downside.

  34. Norman Church

    It appears that the justices of the HCA were unwilling to adopt a construction of section 44 that required additional words to be read into the section by necessary implication.

    Very orthodox and democratic. Commendable even.

    Of course, one need not be troubled about discerning an implied right to engage in political discourse when the constitution provides nothing of the sort. That is obviously different. Right?

  35. Snoopy

    Another 4Corners tongue bathing of Tony Windsor is in the works.

  36. Andreas

    There doesn’t even seem to be an official process of testing for eligibility, so who would know whether some of the Labor MPs are eligible or not. They’ve been largely ignored by the media, which is suggestive.

  37. sabena

    So war will start with NZ once the by election is over(assuming Joyce is returned).

  38. thefrolickingmole

    Not wanting to encourage any pollies back, but if the disqualified mob renounced their dual citizenships now could they contest their seats this time around??

  39. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Say what you will about Ludlam (and he is an atrocious human being), but he took his medicine straight away.

  40. thefrolickingmole

    I understand the ALP has had a process in place for quite a while to ensure this couldnt happen.
    And apparently it has passed the smell test as none of theirs ended up in court.

  41. Every law passed for the last 10 years should be repealed.

    Go back a little bit further to Costello’s final cash giveaway prior to the 2007 election. That is when the rot started.

  42. Chris

    So whats the best way forward?

    I propose a special de-wogging ceremony, like Danny Kaye’s knighting in the Court Jester, for all elected personnel before they take their seats for the first time.

  43. Chris

    Go back a little bit further to Costello’s final cash giveaway prior to the 2007 election. That is when the rot started.

    Oh noes – the gun laws and the privatisation of Commbank, Telstra and Qaint-arse!

  44. Labor running a candidate in New England! A bold move.

  45. Norman Church

    “Go back a little bit further to Costello’s final cash giveaway prior to the 2007 election. That is when the rot started.”

    Quite right, Monty. It is utterly appalling to think that a politician would believe that the citizenry should be allowed to spend their own money rather than have it wasted by politicians, public servants, QANGOs and NGOs.

  46. Good point Chris, the privatisation of Telstra had a lot of terrible outcomes. The other two haven’t been too bad though.

  47. stackja

    ALP fan: Windsor is ALP! ALP two candidates?

  48. Stimpson J. Cat

    F$ck off we’re full!
    Ha ha ha ha ha….. Wait… What…. Xenophon?

    Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!

  49. stackja

    ALP fan wants the PMG? Kev 07 NBN is PMG Part 2.

  50. sabena

    One thing-Turnbull’s leadership is safe until at least 3 December.

  51. stackja

    2GB reading HC reasons. Confusing to me. But of course, I don’t sit on the HC.

  52. candy

    I think it was George Brandis who assured us Barnaby would be totally okay.

  53. Stimpson J. Cat

    Say what you will about Ludlam

    He’s a moron and he can’t rap for sh$t.

  54. stackja

    “Proof of a candidate’s knowledge of his or her foreign citizenship status (or of facts that might put a candidate on inquiry as to the possibility he or she is a foreign citizen) is not necessary to bring about the disqualifying operation of s 44(i),” the judgement read.

    The court, in its judgment, also said that while some may suggest it was “harsh” to disqualify dual citizens who were born in Australia and never had a reason to consider themselves citizens of other countries, nominating for a federal election should be enough of a reason for them to check.

    Now ALP will check?

  55. dauf

    Surely they have to pay back their ‘ineligible’ pay….it would never ever happen again

  56. One thing-Turnbull’s leadership is safe until at least 3 December.

    The scene: a week before the election, Shorten moves a vote of no confidence in the Reps, govt doesn’t have a majority…

  57. H B Bear

    Federal candidates need to comply with the Constitution. That’s novel, even for the High Court.

  58. Leigh Lowe

    Alan moran
    #2534533, posted on October 27, 2017 at 2:35 pm
    Such a farce! Only 40per cent of Australians automatically eligible to be MPs . Need a system whereby candidates are given the option of at time of becoming a candidate they have the option of renouncing any other citizenship affiliations. Job done!

    The renunciation needs to be absolute and permanent …

    “I, Bananaby Bloggs, having declared an intention to seek election to the Australian Federal Parliament/Senate hereby permanently and irrevocably renounce any citizenship or rights to citizenship of any foreign power. Furthermore, I understand that, should I seek citizenship of a foreign power at any time in the future, that any salary, allowances, rights, benefits, emoluments and pensions accruing from my election to the Australian HoR/Senate shall cease from that date.”

    Sure, some of these pollies have been unwittingly caught up in this, but no doubt others were keeping the dual citizenship rights in their back pocket, with one eye on retiring to Tuscany on full Parliamentary pension.

  59. Nash’s designated replacement from the NSW Libs is also ineligible, LOL. The Coalition can’t organise a piss up in a brewery.

  60. calli

    I understand the ALP has had a process in place for quite a while to ensure this couldnt happen.

    Curious isn’t it?

    Even curiouser is that Shorten’s papers took a couple of weeks and Roberts’ took six months. The Poms must have been at a loose end back then.

  61. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Nash’s designated replacement from the NSW Libs is also ineligible, LOL. The Coalition can’t organise a piss up in a brewery.

    You can see why the country is rooted. We are governed by idiots and foreign filth with no allegiance to the the country.

  62. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Even curiouser is that Shorten’s papers took a couple of weeks and Roberts’ took six months. The Poms must have been at a loose end back then.

    Roberts is a proven lair.

    He has continually lied about when he renounced being a limey.

    He deserves zero sympathy.

  63. Stimpson J. Cat

    Only 40per cent of Australians automatically eligible to be MPs .

    They shouldn’t be allowed to vote either.
    Also they should be taxed for breathing the same f$cking air as us real Australians.
    My Asian looking child of a genuine refugee is more Australian than these Goddamned country shoppers.

  64. stackja

    Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)
    #2534614, posted on October 27, 2017 at 3:11 pm
    Nash’s designated replacement from the NSW Libs is also ineligible, LOL. The Coalition can’t organise a piss up in a brewery.

    You can see why the country is rooted. We are governed by idiots and foreign filth with no allegiance to the the country.

    How Wong?

  65. Crossie

    Five federal MPs including Barnaby Joyce have lost their seats for being dual citizens, throwing Australian politics into unprecedented chaos.

    We’ve had nothing but chaos for the past decade, this is simply business as usual.

  66. stackja

    Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)
    #2534616, posted on October 27, 2017 at 3:13 pm
    Even curiouser is that Shorten’s papers took a couple of weeks and Roberts’ took six months. The Poms must have been at a loose end back then.

    Roberts is a proven lair.

    He has continually lied about when he renounced being a limey.

    He deserves zero sympathy.

    Meanwhile NXT is a nobody of interest.

  67. So Nash’s seat, if the Libs can fend off the Nats claiming it, would have to be claimed (to prevent another election I think?) by Hollie Hughes, who is ineligible due to her being currently employed by the government at the Administrative Appeals Tribunal on big fat coin. So she would have to give up that cushy job, claim the Senate seat but then immediately renounce it, leaving her unemployed. Unless someone in the government gives her an assurance that she would be re-employed by the AAT. But that would technically constitute bribery.

    What a clustermother.

  68. Stimpson J. Cat

    Look, I’m sorry,
    but we have to close the borders to Kiwis.
    They are literally treating us like f$cking sheep.
    Enough is enough.

  69. Boambee John

    “Andreas
    #2534541, posted on October 27, 2017 at 2:38 pm
    Say what you will about those xunts, but they have not breached Section 44 of our Nation’s Constitution.

    How would we know?”

    If Turdbull had any political instincts (I know, big “if”) he would have referred ALL sitting members of the Reps and Senate to the High Court, requiring everyone to table their evidence.

  70. stackja

    Crossie
    #2534620, posted on October 27, 2017 at 3:15 pm
    Five federal MPs including Barnaby Joyce have lost their seats for being dual citizens, throwing Australian politics into unprecedented chaos.

    We’ve had nothing but chaos for the past decade, this is simply business as usual.

    Chaos started in 1972. Gough’s legacy continues.

  71. John Band @johnb78
    Re Canavan, the HC judgement says that it’s not clear in Italian law that unregistered citizens are citizens (p27)
    Re Xenophon, the judgement says that British Overseas citizenship is so crap it doesn’t count as citizenship (p40)
    http://eresources.hcourt.gov.au/downloadPdf/2017/HCA/45

    Constitutional law, it’s a crap shoot.

  72. stackja

    Boambee John
    #2534629, posted on October 27, 2017 at 3:21 pm

    MT and judgment? Yes!

  73. Stimpson J. Cat

    If Turdbull had any political instincts (I know, big “if”) he would have referred ALL sitting members of the Reps and Senate to the High Court, requiring everyone to table their evidence.

    Malcolm has only had one light bulb moment, and that was only because it was an actual light bulb moment.

  74. stackja

    ALP fan: HC surprised by being consistent this time.

  75. Baldrick

    The clusterfuck that is Australian politics and some people have the nerve to laugh at Italian politics.
    We’re ultimately worse and more embarrassing.

  76. entropy

    So I wonder how the Canberra public servants forced to move to Armidale will vote?

  77. Jim Rose

    It seemed to be a terrible decision. Your father’s colonial master can pass laws about you; God help you if it is ambiguous as to whether you are a citizen of a foreign country or not such as Italy.

    Does not deal with the issue a retrospective citizenship changes after MP is elected.

    One of the reasonable steps may be have to go back to the old country to renounce your citizenship as long as it is safe to do so. Some countries require you to personally renounce citizenship on their territory. Again, that will be a question for later litigation.

  78. Best outcome. The ALP win Bananaby Rubble’s seat.

    New ALP govt. 1 year of Willy rather than 3.

  79. LOL, Sky reporting that Nash wants Hughes to take up the seat then give it up for Nash to resume immediately. Cheeky.

  80. Jim Rose

    The decision also did not put any stop on inheritance of this citizenship by infinite descent.

    Checking that your parents and grandparents are not citizens of foreign countries may not be enough

  81. Turnbull readying himself to speak, just before he flits off to Israel.

  82. Boambee John

    m0nty
    #2534611, posted on October 27, 2017 at 3:08 pm
    Nash’s designated replacement from the NSW Libs is also ineligible, LOL. The Coalition can’t organise a piss up in a brewery

    What makes you think anyone here would disagree with this assesment? Posters here have been far more critical of the Coalition than you have ever been of any leftist group anywhere.

    Please stop ejaculating all over the thread, you are making it sticky and hard to scroll.

  83. jonesy

    ..betting the limo is on it’s way to government house…prorogue till December 3rd

  84. Norman Church

    Jim Rose #2534641, posted on October 27, 2017 at 3:27 pm

    “The decision also did not put any stop on inheritance of this citizenship by infinite descent. Checking that your parents and grandparents are not citizens of foreign countries may not be enough”

    That’s the sleeper issue that I was discussing with somebody at work yesterday. Some nations confer citizenship by descent. As one goes back through the generations, the number of ancestors multiplies and the facts become murkier.

    The obvious questions that arises is, when has one had a good enough look for constitutional purposes? One generation. Two generations? Three generations?

    Might be some fun times ahead.

  85. hzhousewife

    One wonders how many past Federal members were ineligible in their, and our, ignorance of the fact.

  86. stackja

    hzhousewife
    #2534650, posted on October 27, 2017 at 3:35 pm
    One wonders how many past Federal members were ineligible in their, and our, ignorance of the fact.

    How many laws passed, now illegal?

  87. Leigh Lowe

    Turnbull readying himself to speak, just before he flits off to Israel

    Twelve months on a kibbutz should be good for the useless prick.

  88. Leo G

    Federal candidates need to comply with the Constitution. That’s novel, even for the High Court.

    Federal candidates need to comply retrospectively with the High Court’s interpretations of the Constitution.

  89. Sounds like Turnbull is waving goodbye to Nash.

  90. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Turnbull readying himself to speak, just before he flits off to Israel.

    The Wailing Wall is going to cop a flogging.

  91. Brian

    I thought I read somewhere that the clock starts at the point of nomination.
    In which case Bill Shorten would also be ineligible.
    Is that right?

  92. Turnbull takes one question then Fs right O. Weak.

  93. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Holilie Hughes? Oh god no.

  94. Nats will scream blue murder if Turnbull takes Nash’s seat off them and hands it to an ineligible Lib.

  95. nominating for a federal election should be enough of a reason for them to check.

    Yep, agree wholeheartedly.
    Perhaps from now on all aspiring politicians will look at the Constitution a little more carefully.
    And by the way Mr Turnbull, your cowardice in not challenging Labor politicians of dubious heritage is just another aspect of your failed, disastrous “leadership”.
    But you did get to be PM.

  96. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Sky saying Windsor not running!

    He’s seen the polling. Fucking weasel.

  97. candy

    Is Malcolm Turnbull cancelling his trip to Israel? that would seem appropriate. I think folks would like to know what’s happening. Not that the Israel 2 state issue is not important, or that he can do much about anything over the weekend, but perhaps be around to re-assure the Nationals who’ve lost leader and deputy leader in one fell swoop.

  98. This is the time Julie Bishop should pounce. Wait for Turnbull to leave, declare him an Israeli citizen and install herself as Glorious Leader. It’s what Cersei Lannister would do.

  99. stackja

    Al Grassby
    From Wikipedia

    He was born Albert Jaime Grassby in Brisbane, Queensland to parents of Spanish and Irish descent.

    After he turned 18, Grassby joined the British Army, serving in both infantry units and the British Intelligence Corps (1945–46).

  100. Stimpson J. Cat

    Sky saying Windsor not running!

    He’d be running for his life if he ran.

  101. Lysander

    Candy; it’s a pretty important event that he’s attending:

    http://beersheba100.com.au/events/israel.html

  102. The Deplorable Barking Toad

    calli
    #2534536, posted on October 27, 2017 at 2:36 pm
    Unavailable for comment

    hahahahaha……….nice one centurion…I had a fair lol at that

  103. C.L.

    Monty has been this filled with energy and hubris since the morning of the US presidential election.

  104. Stimpson J. Cat

    This is the time Julie Bishop should pounce. Wait for Turnbull to leave, declare him an Israeli citizen and install herself as Glorious Leader. It’s what Cersei Lannister would do.

    Real life is not like a TV show Monty.
    And besides, Skeletor has no balls.
    She only works from the shadows.

  105. stackja

    Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)
    #2534669, posted on October 27, 2017 at 3:49 pm
    Sky saying Windsor not running!

    He’s seen the polling. Fucking weasel.

    ALP now only one candidate?

  106. calli

    Sky saying Windsor not running!

    Labor is already fielding a candidate.

  107. Wikipedia is quick.
    “Fiona Joy Nash (née Morton; born 6 May 1965) is a former Australian politician.”

  108. Turnbull nixes Israel trip. Obviously could see the glint of Julie Bishop’s Valyrian steel.

  109. johanna

    incoherent rambler
    #2534537, posted on October 27, 2017 at 2:37 pm

    Phase 2: Can every piece of legislation that Bananaby Rubble voted on, be challenged in the HC? Or is automatically invalid?

    No and no.

    If an MP is expelled, or resigns, or dies, or otherwise ceases to be an MP, it does not invalidate his/her votes prior to their departure.

    Think about it. It is ridiculous in theory, and impossible in practice. How do you invalidate the last Budget, for example? Ask everyone for the money back?

    As for the theory, nobody knows how other MPs would have voted on the many pieces of legislation if the MP in question’s vote is taken out of the equation. It is retrospectivity of the worst kind.

  110. Ubique

    Can someone remind as to why Senator Wong’s case wasn’t referred to the High Court? Was evidence that she renounced her Malaysian citizenship in 2001 ever produced?

  111. Phase 2: Can every piece of legislation that Bananaby Rubble voted on, be challenged in the HC? Or is automatically invalid?

    Legislation… probably not. Decisions he signed off on as a minister and deputy PM… hmm maybe. But who knows with the HC, very little of this has been tested before.

  112. Baldrick

    Sky saying Windsor not running!

    He’s saving himself for a run at the Senate, as an ‘independent’ next federal election.

  113. Windsor confirms he won’t run.

    But he’s still popping the corks today, all that lawyer funding he did paid off in spades.

  114. Elizur Right

    PM 15 Aug 2017 “You can laugh as much as you like. But the Constitution is interpreted by the High Court of Australia, and, as I’ve said, we are very, very confident that, when the matter of the eligibility of the member for New England comes before the High Court, he will be found to be qualified to sit in this parliament. That is consistent with the findings of the court.” LOL

  115. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Can someone remind as to why Senator Wong’s case wasn’t referred to the High Court? Was evidence that she renounced her Malaysian citizenship in 2001 ever produced?

    Also the haggis hunter from the wilds of the Gorbals? Doggie “Mind mah tea” Cameron?

  116. H B Bear

    Sky saying Windsor not running!
    He’s seen the polling. Fucking weasel.

    Ol’ Yella dog.

  117. miltonf

    I still don’t understand why this has blown up in the last 2 or 3 months? Why now? How long has Joyce been in the HoR? Since 2013? And what a NINO he’s turned out to be.

  118. Senile Old Guy

    I understand the ALP has had a process in place for quite a while to ensure this couldn’t happen. And apparently it has passed the smell test as none of theirs ended up in court.

    The ALP says it has a process but have not, to my knowledge, produced any evidence of it. And “none of theirs” ending up in court could just be down to the general uselessness of the LNP.

  119. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    I still don’t understand why this has blown up in the last 2 or 3 months? Why now? How long has Joyce been in the HoR? Since 2013? And what a NINO he’s turned out to be.

    Methinks the idiot Liberals thought it was a way to get rid of Roberts and didn’t count on how many other foreign pieces of shit we have in our midst.

  120. stackja

    miltonf
    #2534708, posted on October 27, 2017 at 4:19 pm
    I still don’t understand why this has blown up in the last 2 or 3 months? Why now? How long has Joyce been in the HoR? Since 2013? And what a NINO he’s turned out to be.

    BJ loyalty to the coalition. And the ALP is the workers party!

  121. miltonf

    Yeah the whole Trumble farce is collapsing in a steaming heap.

  122. Rockdoctor

    Ubique
    #2534692, posted on October 27, 2017 at 4:06 pm

    Or Katy Gallagher. Same situation as Barnaby.

  123. And what a NINO he’s turned out to be.

    They’re a weird mob.

  124. candy

    I still don’t understand why this has blown up in the last 2 or 3 months?

    My understanding is that certain quarters in the Left in 2014 felt Tony Abbott was ineligible. Derryn Hinch and some lawyer got in on the act and wanted TA to produce proof. Who checked up on Ludlam/Waters and Joyce and why, is a mystery though.
    It was TA the left wanted all along.

  125. It is a pity that the high court did not go further with Canavan. It should be illegal for someone to nominate another person to be a citizen of another country without their permission. It was stated that if canavan was ruled ineligible than North Korea could nominate any MP as one of their citizens.
    With regard to Malcolm Roberts there is a possiblity that he will be back. In Qld there were only two one nation party members standing and they both were elected. If recent precedence is followed One nation can chose who the replacement will be. However, it has to be approved by the QLD government and they could do a Bjilke Petersen and nominate an independent. Let us hope the Qld Govt will do the right thing. The people of Qld will take their revenge and boot out the ALP at the coming election. There are signs that an election is close -saw some ALP signs out on the road in addition to the LNP and One Nation signs in peoples properties.

  126. miltonf

    Yeah and Ludlam and Waters just walked

  127. JC

    So that sack of shit, Tony Windsor isn’t running. No wonder seeing he’s so despised.

  128. miltonf

    Surely Joyce isn’t going to run again either. Just go away.

  129. herodotus

    If Barnaby can be retreaded for a snap by-election, can’t the Senators be recycled with similar speed?

  130. Baldrick

    … can’t the Senators be recycled with similar speed?

    Plans are afoot:

    Senate special counts
    It is expected that the AEC will be ordered to conduct special counts of formal 2016 Senate ballot papers to determine candidates elected in New South Wales, Queensland and Western Australia. This follows the disqualification of former Senators Fiona Nash (NSW), Malcolm Roberts (QLD), Larissa Waters (QLD) and Scott Ludlam (WA).
    The timing for Senate special counts is yet to be determined and is subject to the provision of directions from a Justice of the Court. Once directions have been provided by the Court, the AEC will proceed as quickly as possible to conduct the required special counts in Sydney, Brisbane and Perth respectively in the presence of candidate scrutineers.

  131. One Nation’s replacement for Roberts in Queensland is currently the subject of bankruptcy proceedings. If he’s ultimately ruled ineligible, the next cab off the rank is Pauline Hanson’s sister. So many lulz.

  132. Adelagado

    Pity about Canavan. I have friends in Canberra who say he is a pig.

  133. Gab

    Haven’t seen monty this animated since Krispy Kreme had a two-for-one offer.

  134. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    If Turdbull had any political instincts (I know, big “if”) he would have referred ALL sitting members of the Reps and Senate to the High Court, requiring everyone to table their evidence.

    Malcolm has only had one light bulb moment, and that was only because it was an actual light bulb moment.

    Yes, it all seems rather selective. Turnfailure again.

  135. Pete of Perth

    Why do they need to be replaced? We have enough overlords already

  136. Baldrick

    Haven’t seen monty this animated since Krispy Kreme had a two-for-one offer.

    The penny hasn’t dropped yet for m0nty that two Greenfilth got canned also.

  137. Boambee John

    Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)
    #2534713, posted on October 27, 2017 at 4:22 pm
    I still don’t understand why this has blown up in the last 2 or 3 months? Why now? How long has Joyce been in the HoR? Since 2013? And what a NINO he’s turned out to be.

    Methinks the idiot Liberals thought it was a way to get rid of Roberts and didn’t count on how many other foreign pieces of shit we have in our midst.

    More like Watermelon senator Rhiannon using Soviet tactics to consolidate her position in the Slime?

  138. Boambee John

    Remember, it started with Waters and Ludlam.

  139. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The ALP says it has a process but have not, to my knowledge, produced any evidence of it. And “none of theirs” ending up in court could just be down to the general uselessness of the LNP.

    I know for sure the ALP have had a process since 1987 for ensuring they don’t chose candidates who are office-bearers under the Crown (teachers, police, public servants etc). Whether since then this process has been revised to include all of the complexities of non-Australian nationalities is another matter. I’d like to see them all put up to the High Court for a judgement.

    At present the High Court has simply provided a list of exclusions applied to those brought before it. We have to be sure that they have done their job and looked at all possible cases, so all members of both Houses should be examined on their evidential material. Otherwise the country is thrown into turmoil on an incomplete process.
    Where will we be if it later emerges that some others were ineligible too?

  140. miltonf

    BJ- yes that makes sense- there’s some pretty vicious infighting going on in the greens formerly CPA or ACP or whatever.

  141. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    It should be a simple administrative matter for all to submit their documentation now for judgement.
    Bring. It. On.

  142. Boambee John

    Gab
    #2534749, posted on October 27, 2017 at 4:53 pm
    Haven’t seen monty this animated since Krispy Kreme had a two-for-one offer.

    m0nty hasn’t been doing so well on Wussia, Wussia, Wussia lately. This thread gives him “clear air” as they say.

    Still, I wish he could contain his excitement, the thread is getting very damp and sticky.

  143. egg_

    Tony Whinger probably couldn’t have organised as many windmills in New England as Bananaby has belatedly, running scared of Whinger and the alleged Green vote, FFS.

    Teh now proven ‘unrepresentative swill’ Greens got value on that score, without having to lift a finger.

  144. calli

    Remember, it started with Waters and Ludlam.

    Nothing like a good purge.

  145. The Deplorable Barking Toad

    I want to know if Wong put Mr or Ms or Mrs on its application.

    Voters are entitled to know what they are voting for

  146. egg_

    Haven’t seen monty this animated since Krispy Kreme had a two-for-one offer.

    Is he wearing his rake-proof vest?

  147. johanna

    Sounds like Labor had a better process for vetting candidates.

    Which wouldn’t be hard, as the amateurs who run the Coalition seem to have had none at all.

    What a debacle.

    The Coalition seems to have been run like a backwoods country club, while Labor has consistently outflanked them in terms of professionalism, fundraising via fronts like GetUp and sheer bloodymindedness.

    Meanwhile, His Malcolmness jets off to play the big shot on the international stage.

    Your average P&C faction is more adept at politics than these eejits.

  148. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Pity about Canavan. I have friends in Canberra who say he is a pig.

    That is just his Italian blood running hot.

  149. The Deplorable Barking Toad

    Gab
    #2534749, posted on October 27, 2017 at 4:53 pm
    Haven’t seen monty this animated since Krispy Kreme had a two-for-one offer.
    Cruel but fair

  150. egg_

    My understanding is that certain quarters in the Left in 2014 felt Tony Abbott was ineligible. Derryn Hinch and some lawyer got in on the act and wanted TA to produce proof.

    Didn’t have a Hunch?

    Epic fail.

  151. curious george

    I know for sure the ALP have had a process since 1987 for ensuring they don’t chose candidates who are office-bearers under the Crown (teachers, police, public servants

    For sure?
    I have more than a sneaking suspicion that even one employed by the state can nominate for election via a system that allows them to resume former employment if their election bid is unsuccessful. I gave it some consideration whilst a member of the ADF in 1971.

  152. egg_

    And what a NINO he’s turned out to be.

    Au contraire, the very leading example of the Agrarian Socialist Pardee.

  153. egg_

    The ALP says it has a process but have not, to my knowledge, produced any evidence of it. And “none of theirs” ending up in court could just be down to the general uselessness of the LNP.

    +1

    Why else would Shorten have taken so long to show proof of eligibility?

    Shows the LNP’s total ineptitude.

  154. miltonf

    Au contraire, the very leading example of the Agrarian Socialist Pardee.

    Can you imagine Doug Anthony trying to turn a commodity like electricity into a luxury?

  155. Now if these people were in ineligible to stand does this mean that all perks of office are now withdrawn especially any pensions and entitlements?

  156. GerardO

    Turnbull is scared of Hezbollah.
    This is undeniably true; this is canon now.

  157. Motelier

    Just a question to the leader of the opposition

    I had to ask.

  158. Rabz

    #foreignerswhores&quislings

  159. sdfc

    Canavan should have been given the flick for bringing out the Warnie defence.

  160. candy

    Canavan should have been given the flick for bringing out the Warnie defence.

    I don’t think the High Court can operate on emotions, sdfc. That is what Brandis wanted, for the HC to make a decision based on honorable intentions, not legal matters of filling out a form correctly etc. Once you go down the path legal decisions based on emotions it is not good.

  161. sdfc

    Blaming your mum is a bridge too far Candy.

  162. dopey

    Monty could win the Cox Plate the way he’s going.

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