Open Forum: November 4, 2017

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  1. Hey, that sounds cosy.

    It is. Sometimes we just lay there and discuss the first thing that comes up . . .

  2. Ooh, speculation that Flynn has turned snitch. That would be huge. He would have a lot of dirt on Kushner. Trump would be getting really worried now.

  3. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    SE Australia has frigid dry ocean air to the south and hot desert air to the NW

    We once went for a summer holiday down that way. I froze. Inadequate clothing.
    Gave in eventually and went to the local shops for something, anything, to keep warm.

    Gotta go. Tradie coming at 11 and I have to clear a workspace for him.
    I rang him and asked do you want to work outside in this squally weather?
    Of course, he said. No problem, he said.
    OK. Out I go, into the wet cold to pick up stuff ready for him.

  4. Andreas

    m0nty
    #2544252, posted on November 6, 2017 at 9:45 am
    Leaks happen, Bruce. Get over it.

    LOL.

  5. Robber Baron

    Northcote By-election.

    Good morning Cats, RB, your local Northcote resident reporting on the exciting election.

    This has been a safe working class Labor seat for decades, but the Greens have been making inroads over the last decade and have snared many local council wards (City of Darebin).

    Rates and taxes have never been higher. Roads have never been worse. Over-development with lots of old houses being demolished and high-density apartments replacing them. I’ve never seen more luxury cars and 4-wheel drives replacing the commodores (always a good predictor of green voting intentions). $5 lattes everywhere. Crime is up, in particular theft and burglaries. This seat is ready to turn full retard GREEN.

    If yard signs are a predictor of support, the candidate supporting the YES rainbow party will romp it in. These signs are everywhere. Some distance behind are the GREENS white aboriginal woman. There is at least one sign is every street. The only other candidate with signage is Vince Fontana who is running as “independent”. Vince is a paid up member of Labor and a former Labor Mayor. He is my neighbor. He’s not independent at all. Labor are very worried about losing this seat.

    The propaganda is starting to make its way into the letter box. Already had Labor and Green lies; clearly saving forests is not on the agenda. Expecting some more. I will review the local news rag for more propaganda when it arrives.

    I think Northcote is going to fall to the Greens on the evidence so far.

    RB signing off for Cat news.

  6. srr

    Isn’t this when JC or one the socks is supposed to jump in and complain about the thread being turned into the weather channel … oops sorry, my bad, it’s still, ‘remind everyone they must scroll past the unpersoned’, time … sad.

    Stealth Jeff Retweeted
    #SoulWAR‏ @jihadaeon1 13m13 minutes ago
    Replying to @ThomasWictor

    Forever.
    I wish I had known that……
    Sooner.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DN5yK8TUQAAGnfE.jpg

  7. Bruce of Newcastle

    Leaks happen, Bruce. Get over it.

    So you say that breaking the law should not be punished even as you advocate for a guy to be punished for allegedly breaking the law? Typical lefty.

  8. Mark A

    m0nty
    #2544256, posted on November 6, 2017 at 9:51 am

    Ooh, speculation that Flynn has turned snitch. That would be huge. He would have a lot of dirt on Kushner. Trump would be getting really worried now.

    You know M0nty, that we keep some of your more memorable predictions bookmarked don’t you?

  9. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    What’s that saying about old dogs and life, MV?
    Discuss it, do you? 🙂

    Ah, lookit the time, must sign off, and give serious Cats a go.

  10. pete m

    ATTENTION M0NTY – 2nd reminder

    David
    #2542391, posted on November 4, 2017 at 2:27 am
    So, Monty, I have a genuine question. You seem the most passionate against Trump so:

    What, exactly, has Trump done, in your view, that makes him culpable? All I’ve heard for 15 months is “Russian collusion”, but collusion to do what, exactly? Sometimes I read that “Trump stole the election” but how do you do that, exactly? It’s so vague.

    There have been investigations into voting machines but nothing’s been found. Facebook etc. Have admitted to running some ads but the numbers appear to be minor and of no consequence. I honestly cannot see what he is supposed to have done that is a crime.

    I don’t need a detailed or comprehensive answer, just a few lines. Please don’t cop out by telling me to find out for myself. I’d like to hear what you think, in your own words.

    Example: if I were to answer the same question re Hillary, I would say something like this: She is accused (by head of DNC) of rigging the Dem primaries and taking money that properly should have been spent on other Dem candidates. She is accused of facilitating sale of 20% uranium while head of State Dept. The Clinton Foundation is said to have benefited by over $100m shortly after the sale of uranium. The Clinton Foundation appears to spend only 3% on actual charity, has not filed accounts since 2012, paid over $1m for Bill Clinton’s birthday, and paid entirely for Chelsea’s wedding (Associated Press investigation into Clinton Foundation)

    These are just examples. I’m not asking you to comment on them, just could you write something similar about what you think that Trump has actually done that deserves a criminal prosecution?

    AND

    David
    #2542395, posted on November 4, 2017 at 2:41 am
    Oh, a related question: Monty you’ve said many times that you hope certain people are wearing a wire, and you hope Trump will be heard on tape incriminating himself. Like in movies, the FBI hear a confession to a murder, a date for a drug shipment, and so on. Then they pounce, the perp walks and it’s all over.

    So in general terms, what do you expect Trump to say that would incriminate him? Don’t misunderstand I’m not asking for a prediction. I’m asking that if everything went perfectly your way, in the maximum way possible, what sort of things would you have Trump confess to? What crimes?

    I’ll re-post these questions until you answer them m0nty. No-one should engage with m0nty until he does.

  11. Andreas

    Leaks happen, Bruce Hillary. Get over it.

  12. JC

    Isn’t this when JC or one the socks

    You’re demented, ussr. Fuck off.

  13. What law has been broken by briefing a journo, Bruce? Sounds like democracy in action to me.

  14. Boambee John

    m0nty
    #2544252, posted on November 6, 2017 at 9:45 am
    Leaks happen, Bruce. Get over it.

    Podesta and DNC Wikileaks happened m0nty. Get over it.

    That’s better.

  15. Discuss it, do you?

    These days it’s a bit like a blue moon.
    We gaze at it in wonder.

  16. Bruce of Newcastle

    Ooh, speculation that Flynn has turned snitch. That would be huge. He would have a lot of dirt on Kushner. Trump would be getting really worried now.

    Why would he be worried?
    Kushner has been a lefty agent provocateur in the WH for a year now. Trump can’t get rid of him without a breakdown with Ivanka who’s also a lefty. That’s why he was sent off to fix the ME.

    At the same time the MSM can’t go after Kushner for exactly the same reason. They want Ivanka there spouting climate crap and other lefty doctrine stuff. If Mueller indicted Kushner and Ivanka followed him out the WH door life for Trump would become noticeably easier.

  17. There is a big difference between your own leaks and someone hacking you and releasing your private correspondence. The former is PR, the latter is crime.

  18. Andreas

    There is a big difference between your own leaks and someone hacking you and releasing your private correspondence. The former is PR, the latter is crime.

    That’s why you were fine with a staffer leaking info on an AFP raid to the media.

    /sarc

  19. Snoopy

    Trump sacked Flynn in February after Flynn had served just 24 days. And we’re supposed to get excited that Mueller might have Flynn. Only running 9 months behind Trump at this stage.

  20. Wow Bruce, you are sounding like USSR. It is amazing the lengths that people will go to to imagine scenarios where Trump is playing eleven-dimensional chess instead of what he is plainly doing, which is making it up as he goes.

  21. Stimpson J. Cat

    Trump is playing eleven-dimensional chess

    It’s 4D you Muppet Monty.

  22. Stimpson J. Cat

    Eleven dimensions.
    F$cking ridiculous.
    We don’t have eleven fingers, do we?

  23. stackja

    2GB report documents from 1950 that there was a Hungarian passport for Joshua mother.

  24. Bruce of Newcastle

    What law has been broken by briefing a journo, Bruce?

    Rule 6. The Grand Jury

    (B) Unless these rules provide otherwise, the following persons must not disclose a matter occurring before the grand jury:

    (i) a grand juror;
    (ii) an interpreter;
    (iii) a court reporter;
    (iv) an operator of a recording device;
    (v) a person who transcribes recorded testimony;
    (vi) an attorney for the government; or
    (vii) a person to whom disclosure is made under Rule 6(e)(3)(A)(ii) or (iii).

    Nowhere in the exceptions does it say that disclosing information to a journalist is allowed M0nty. Therefore whoever is leaking to the press is breaching the law.

    Trump will have to build some more Federal jails for all the Dem activists, when the dust settles.

  25. Snoopy

    According to Monty the embarrassing Antifa Supersoldier Sunday flop was actually a masterful prank. So Monty, who was the prankster who dropped $150K for the NYT ad? It was a brilliant success. Why wouldn’t they want to bask in the glory?

  26. thefrolickingmole

    If only they could marry…

    Australia’s gonorrhoea rise of 63% driven by urban heterosexuals
    Report shows a 99% rise in notification rates in major cities, a 15% rise in regional areas and an 8% fall in rural areas

    The report shows there were 23,887 new diagnoses of gonorrhoea in 2016, with about three quarters of them in men. Between 2012 and 2016, gonorrhoea notification rates increased from 62 per 100,000 people to 101 per 100,000 people. Rates increased by 72% in men and 43% in women.

    Men aged between 25 and 29 and women between 20 and 24 saw the largest increase in gonorrhoea infections, the report found. There was a 99% increase in gonorrhoea notification rates in major cities in the five years to 2016, while rates increased by 15% in regional areas and declined by 8% in rural areas.

    Im afraid we are heading back to “and the band played on” days of rampant STDs and people being stupid enough to think they can take a pill and it will go away forever.
    Exactly what was going on in San fran before AIDs hit.

  27. srr

    Bill Mitchell Retweeted
    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump 16h16 hours ago
    Donald J. Trump Retweeted Fox News

    Heading into the 12 days with great negotiating strength because of our tremendous economy.

    Fox News‏Verified account
    @FoxNews

    Yesterday, President @realDonaldTrump once again made his case that the U.S. economy is flourishing. http://fxn.ws/2zdMlww

    It cannot be overstated how significant Donna Brazile going states evidence on Hillary and the DNC is. Powerful people ok’d this.
    ..
    I believe the DNC has grown weary of the weight of the corrupt Clinton brand and are throwing Hillary and Bill under the bus.
    ..
    Hillary and Bill have become a liability to the Left. Their reign is over. The Democrats are seeking a makeover. Indictments coming…
    ..
    The day the MASSIVE Donna Brazile story broke, ABC, NBC and CBS failed to even report it. Incredible.

  28. John Constantine

    Lot of panic late salvage hay cutting after the Great freeze of ’98.

    Lot of big haystacks in the paddocks got riddled with mice and ruined totally soon after.

    The freeze event this year isn’t as immediately destructive as the old one, but the cropping belt heatwave this weekend will toughen things up.

  29. Gab

    Monty doing all he can to ensure Hillary is President.

    Keep at it monty. You’re doing valuable work for the Clintons & DNC.

  30. Snoopy

    What law has been broken by briefing a journo, Bruce?

    Rule 6. The Grand Jury

    More rakes! Stat!

  31. lotocoti

    I’ve been busy watching one of the most enjoyable pieces of broadcasting history.
    Have i missed anything?

  32. Uh oh

    MSM don’t seem to be showing much interest in the latest Martin Luther King expose. Strange, since they seem to be obsessed with everyone else’s peccadillos. Must be old news is it?

  33. Snoopy

    Monty’s busy DMing his Soros handler for something to throw back at Bruce.

  34. notafan

    I thought celibacy was introduced by an early Pope to protect the Church from land and title claims made by bastard sons of unmarried priests.

    Perhaps you thought wrong


    The true history of celibacy

  35. stackja

    Uh oh
    #2544296, posted on November 6, 2017 at 10:23 am
    MSM don’t seem to be showing much interest in the latest Martin Luther King expose. Strange, since they seem to be obsessed with everyone else’s peccadillos. Must be old news is it?

    Yes!

  36. notafan

    Im afraid we are heading back to “and the band played on” days of rampant STDs and people being stupid enough to think they can take a pill and it will go away forever.
    Exactly what was going on in San fran before AIDs hit.

    My sister and I were discussing this, the beginning of the end of the sexual revolution.

  37. srr

    Thomas Wictor‏ @ThomasWictor 11m11 minutes ago
    Thomas Wictor Retweeted Stealth Jeff

    (1) I was always afraid of mass insanity.

    Stealth JeffVerified account @drawandstrike
    Replying to @ThomasWictor

    I’m a deep state troll?

    They’re gonna hurt my feelings if they keep this up. 🙁

    (2) It’s why I have a weakness for movies in which an infection makes most people into crazed animals.

    (3) If you LOOK at what @drawandstrike says, it’s ALL CONJECTURE from his own self.

    (4) The main guy ACCUSING HIM of being a “Deep State” plant has said in all seriousness the following:

    (5) H. R. McMaster–who personally killed hundreds of Muslims–is a stealth JIHADIST.

    (6) John Kelly–the White House Chief of Staff–is DRUGGING TRUMP and physically holding him prisoner.

    (7) So:

    Conjecture on legal matters is deranged, but claiming that Grade Z straight-to-streaming movie plots are REAL is sane.

    (8) I recommend that everybody watch an old movie called “Shock Corridor.”
    https://twitter.com/ThomasWictor/status/927312484884553728

    (9) The premise of the movie is simple:

    (10) The more time you spend with insane people, the easier it is for you yourself to go insane.

    (11) In my 55 years, I’ve never seen such widespread craziness.

    What happened to you people?

    (12) Yesterday was supposed to be the first day of the new Civil War.

    Nothing happened.

    (13) Are you not grateful?

    We went from Antifia throwing fifty explosive at Trump supporters to…nothing.

    (14) Did that happen by accident?

    No.

    (15) The federal government made it happen.

    (16) The same Attorney General who you call a traitor has authorized maybe hundreds of stings.

    BRILLIANT stings.

    (17) “I WANT HILLARY ARRESTED! WAAAAAAAAA!”

    Hillary wasn’t throwing explosives at fellow citizens.

    (18) Time to up your game.

    Or not. I don’t care. Keep bitching about Hillary.

    (19) You guys will be following the pack into the asylum while @drawandstrike and I marvel at the stunning improvements.

    (20) Because we’re DEEP STATE PLANTS!
    https://twitter.com/ThomasWictor/status/927315642234974210
    ______________

    So much better (and nicer 🙂 ), than being a crusty old litter tray sock 😉 😆

  38. stackja

    thefrolickingmole
    #2544287, posted on November 6, 2017 at 10:13 am

    The data is revealed in the annual surveillance report on HIV, viral hepatitis and sexually transmissible infections, released by the Kirby Institute…

  39. Gab

    Reports that Texas shooter who murdered people in church was Antifa member.

  40. Myrddin Seren

    And another Green Fascist breaks cover in his rage and frustration:

    PROMINENT ENVIRONMENTALIST PROPOSES CLIMATE DICTATORSHIP

    No – not Clive Hamilton. An even earlier version:

    The claim comes from Jørgen Randers, professor of climate strategy at BI Norwegian Business School. His main claim to fame is as co-author of the 1972 Limits to Growth book, which scared a generation to believe we would run out of all resources and kill humanity with suffocating air pollution.

    Club of Rome is an elite project of misanthropy.

  41. notafan

    Pregnant mother killed, young children shot, no motive established


    Texas church shooter identified as Devin Kelley white male 26

  42. notafan

    His LinkedIn page says that he was a VBS “teacher aid (sic)” for “VBS AT KINGSVILLE FBC” and notes, “Dates volunteered Jun 2013 – Jun 2013 Volunteer duration 1 mo. Cause Children. Teaching children ages 4-6 at vocational bible schools helping their minds grow and prosper.” However, multiple children are reportedly among those shot in the church.


    Court martialled out of the army, former summer bible school teacher, at Heavy.com

  43. Perhaps you thought wrong
    The true history of celibacy

    So, Pope Benedict VIII never ruled that the children of immoral priests could not inherit property (from the church), and a few years later Pope Gregory VII didn’t ban marriage by priests altogether, for much the same reason.

    My apologies then, Nota. Obviously I was misinformed.

  44. curious george

    The true history of celibacy
    Great. There is a “history”

    Celibacy, the choice of unmarried men for the priesthood, became normal, precisely because marriage is holy and a sacrament.

    So holy in fact that it precludes one from being ordained?
    Something don’t gel….

  45. Baldrick

    Reports that Texas shooter who murdered people in church was Antifa member.

    Also, he was first shot by a neighbour, forcing him to leave before taking his own life or dying from the wound inflicted.

  46. notafan

    My apologies then, Nota. Obviously I was misinformed.

    Apology accepted

    By the way how would banning priestly marriage stop the bastard children of priests inheriting?

  47. Baldrick

    Antifa hashtag: #Nov4ItBegins

    Nov 5: Suspected Antifa, military drop-out, atheist, kills 26+parishioners.

  48. Trump will have to build some more Federal jails for all the Dem activists, when the dust settles.

    Yeah right Bruce. Look out for flying pigs.

  49. notafan

    Curious George, out of context,

    Yet celibacy is now usual. The big change came about before the 13th century, when it became exceptional, afterwards very rare, for a married man to be ordained. Why? Because it was now seen as undesirable to break up a marriage. The Albigensians in the south of France claimed that all marriage is sinful – Lateran II had to condemn that idea very strongly. That concentrated the minds of theologians, notably that of Hugh of St Victor.

  50. Chris

    Yeah right Bruce. Look out for flying pigs.

    Thats right – Democrats will pervert the course of justice and create an untouchable nomklatura.

  51. Chris

    Curious George, out of context,

    History in memes – we has it.

  52. Baldrick

    From Sutherland Shire shooter Devin Kelley’s LinkedIn page:

    Causes devin cares about:
    Animal Welfare
    Arts and Culture
    Children
    Civil Rights and Social Action
    Environment
    Health
    Human Rights

  53. notafan

    Thankyou for mentioned Pope Benedict VIII.

    Another fantastic defender of Christendom.

    In the face of renewed Saracens attacks on southern Italy, Pope Benedict provided leadership that brought peace through his skills and alliances with the Normans. After the Saracens had seized Luna in Tuscany they began spreading misery over the Italian land. Benedict mounted attacks on them by land and by sea and soon drove them out of Italy. The furious Muslim chief sent Benedict a bag of chestnuts and threatened that he would return the next summer with a soldier for every chestnut. Not to be outdone in this war of nerves, Benedict sent in return a bag of rice with his warning that when the Muslim returned he would find a soldier for every grain of rice. Then, believing that the best defense was a good offense, Pope Benedict succeeded in having the Genoese and Pisans sail against the Muslim base in Sardinia. The combined fleets captured the island after the Muslims had held Sardinia for over a century

    .


    Benedict VIII

  54. Chris

    Noptice that the timing of the Texas church shooting – within a short time after a major media freak-out
    imitator is a loser trying for that sweet ‘social significance’ created by media attention.

    To stop copycats, payback should be addressed to newsrooms.

  55. BrettW

    Saw two anti LNP / Nicholls ads on TV last night. Both featured nurses saying they had been sacked when Campbell Newman (now blaming Nicholls) cut 14,000 civil servants.

    One said she had been re-employed by Government under Anna. What she missed out was the very generous redundancy package she would have received. No doubt she got to keep that. She would not be the only one who was re-employed by Anna’s Govt which has recently been found to be delaying the release of Govt employment figures.

    The better way is not to sack civil servants but not replace them when they leave or retire (ie. within reason).

  56. Chris

    I put tags around that last but they didn-t show –
    srrmode
    /srrmode

  57. Curious George, out of context,

    The theme song is far better than the show.

  58. Mother Lode

    What law has been broken by briefing a journo, Bruce?

    Rule 6. The Grand Jury

    Lefties think something is illegal if they don’t like it.

    I mean – it must be!

  59. Baldrick

    Chris
    #2544329, posted on November 6, 2017 at 11:06 am
    Noptice that the timing of the Texas church shooting – within a short time after a major media freak-out

    Perhaps a coincidence, but it was also conducted on the anniversary of the November 5, 2009, Fort Hood Texas shooting by Nidal Hasan.

  60. Mother Lode

    MSM don’t seem to be showing much interest in the latest Martin Luther King expose.

    The left have gone off MLK since it came out that he was a Republican.

  61. Mother Lode

    I see the AFR is leading with a headline about how some foreign leaks are revealing his Russian connections, or some such.

    In a world with satellite communications and internet connectivity it seems the Australian MSM still gets all its news from copies of the New York Times that have been brought to Australia by ship.

  62. Chris

    Perhaps a coincidence, but it was also conducted on the anniversary of the November 5, 2009, Fort Hood Texas shooting by Nidal Hasan.

    Well spotted. The book ‘The Copycat Effect’ makes quite a fuss about dates. They are appear to be chosen to give another hook for cliche in reporting.

  63. Tom

    After today, it is only a matter of time before Antifa is declared a terrorist organisation.

  64. Baldrick

    Devin Kelley was court martialed in 2014 after a dishonorable discharge.

    And before Leftards scream about gun control:

    A dishonorable discharge (DD), similarly referred to as a “duck dinner” in military slang, can only be handed down to an enlisted member by a general court-martial. … Additionally, US federal law prohibits possession of firearms by those who have been dishonorably discharged per the Gun Control Act of 1968.

  65. C.L.

    Where is the evidence for an Antifa link?

  66. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Pregnant mother killed, young children shot,

    That is just so awful.
    I don’t blame guns, but I do think wild gun usage by heroes in Hollywood movies doesn’t help.

    I watched an old early 90’s movie, ‘Falling Over’, with Hairy the other night, in which a man with a marriage breakdown looked at the world around him and was appalled, letting loose in the end with some guns he’d commandeered from a gang who went after him in a bad area. Much shooting bloodshed, which ended on a pier in Venice Beach with him trying to kill his wife and child. A Hollywood critique of the American Way 1990’s style, cinematically presenting the bleakness of a seedy underclass territory where people were not bothering to struggle up, a movie that would never have been made in the 50’s, the times of hope, when Hollywood more often than not presented a positive image of individuals in difficulty dealing with their demons (even ‘West Side Story’ had redemptive elements). That is, until someone said hey, let’s make a movie about a rebel without a cause, and then more of them. The start of victim culture, followed by the youth demographic explosion of the 60’s.

    Oh well. Just got an email. Keith Windshuttle has just asked me if he can publish my Quadrant Online piece in the hard copy magazine. It is, in part, a cultural reflection on the fifties too.
    I said yes. Once again, pretty chuffed by this encouragement and will return to ye neglected bokke.

    Tradie is late, but all is now in readiness for him. Weather is improving. I will return to comparing the ancient cosmologies of the Irish and the Welsh. Maybe Hairy and I are not so different after all, if those cosmologies are anything to go by. They don’t include football and driving though, although Boudicca (a Briton, ie. a Waeles; perhaps idealised as a Victory goddess) was a dab hand with her chariot. 🙂

  67. BorisG

    Trump can’t get rid of him without a breakdown with Ivanka who’s also a lefty.

    You Know what you are suggesting? If trump keeps him in office only because of family ties then he is unfit to be president.

  68. curious george

    Curious George, out of context,

    I get that but my point remains.

    disclosure: I subscribe to the Eastern rites.

  69. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    After today, it is only a matter of time before Antifa is declared a terrorist organisation.

    It won’t happen, Tom.
    But you already know that.

  70. H B Bear

    Why is is that every time a Lieboral government sacks a public servant they turn out to be a nurse or a teacher? The Peppa Pigs of the public service.

  71. Where is the evidence for an Antifa link?

    Looks like Tom has been reduced to trawling the chans.

  72. Geriatric Mayfly

    zyconoclast
    #2544013, posted on November 5, 2017 at 9:23 pm
    History Lovers Club
    Some great old pictures.

    Fact check: True. Some even enchanting viz. Audrey Hepburn. But, way, way down is a pic of Lenin in a bath chair. After four strokes he is looking like a swivel eyed loon. A fitting last snap before shuffling off. Just like Stalin, who died in a puddle of his own piss. Doubt if anyone was game enough to capture the image.

  73. notafan

    I get that but my point remains.

    The point is that celibacy for those taking religious vows is always voluntary.

    No-one ever quibbles with the idea of nunly celibacy and there are female religious in Eastern rites, Orthodox, Anglican and even Methodist communities.

    And in Eastern rites there are celibates, because iirc only the celibate can become bishops.

    In the Eastern Orthodox Church and Oriental Orthodoxy, celibacy is the norm for bishops; married men may be ordained to the priesthood, but even married priests whose wives pre-decease them are not allowed to enter marriage after ordination.

  74. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Causes devin cares about:
    Animal Welfare
    Arts and Culture
    Children
    Civil Rights and Social Action
    Environment
    Health
    Human Rights

    Ye Gods. That’s the full M0nty.

  75. C.L.

    Not seeing any mainstream reportage of an Antifa link.
    This is another deranged lunatic obsessed with guns and eager to use them ‘for real’ – while striving for a death toll record. I don’t have any problem repeating my assertion post-Vegas that men who acquire multiple firearms, especially semi-automatic rifles, ought to be considered lunatics until proved otherwise.

  76. Causes devin cares about:
    […]
    Children

    Yeah not so much.

  77. srr

    Update 5:55 p.m.: Texas Department of Public Safety Region 6 Director Freeman Martin told reporters during a press conference that a local resident engaged the shooter with his own weapon. Devin Kelley then dropped his Ruger AR-15 rifle and got in his car to leave. The resident pursued Kelley’s vehicle until it crashed. Police found Kelley dead inside his vehicle. It is not clear if he shot himself or if the resident shot him, Martin stated.

    http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/11/05/multiple-casualties-reported-in-texas-church-shooting/

  78. Bruce of Newcastle

    If trump keeps him in office only because of family ties then he is unfit to be president.

    Boris – You should ask M0nty that question, since he is the one who raised the apparently leaked information that Kushner is being pursued by Mueller (a guy who is so contaminated by Uranium One he probably glows in the dark).

    As far as I know Kushner has done nothing illegal. He has been advocating lefty causes however. That is not illegal. But if Mueller decides he has done something illegal (as M0nty surmises) then he would be required to resign.

  79. Boambee John

    The former is PR, the latter is crime.

    Translation: “Everything is legal if it supports left fascist causes. Everything else is illegal.

  80. srr

    Update 6:08 p.m.: KENS 5 tweeted an interview with a witness who described watching his neighbor engage the suspect with a gun. The suspect fled the scene following the encounter with the neighbor.

    http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/11/05/multiple-casualties-reported-in-texas-church-shooting/ neighbor.

  81. Joe

    CL:

    I don’t have any problem repeating my assertion post-Vegas that men who acquire multiple firearms, especially semi-automatic rifles, ought to be considered lunatics until proved otherwise.

    Baldrick:

    US federal law prohibits possession of firearms by those who have been dishonorably discharged per the Gun Control Act of 1968.

    So, how does one prohibited from possessing firearms go about accumulating multiple semi-automatic rifles?

    What we have here is a failure to enforce the law. In all recent cases of spree killing by firearms, the perpetrator ALREADY broke the law. Furthermore, it often turns out that the authorities knew and failed to take action to correct the infringement.

  82. Snoopy

    Monty, admit that the leak by Mueller’s team breaks the law.

  83. srr

    THIS IS TEXAS=> Local Armed Citizen Pursued Evil Killer Devin Kelley in Vehicle After Mass Shooting

    The Democrats immediately called for gun control yet it was an armed citizen who pursued Kelley in a vehicle after the mass shooting.

    As previously reported, Devin Kelley was court martialed in 2014 after a dishonorable discharge.

    Here is the case number:
    No. 14-0387/AF. U.S. v. Devin P. KELLEY. CCA 38267.

    According to McMilitary Law: States have laws for gun control for court martial cases.
    Will I be able to own firearms?
    Federal and state laws do place restrictions on the purchase of firearms by those convicted of felonies. 18 USC § 922(b). Many jurisdictions distinguish between violent and non-violent offenses.

    It was against the law for Devin to own firearms.

    The Democrats always scream ‘gun control’ after a mass shooting, however; laws do not stop people from obtaining guns. If a person wants to buy a gun, they will find a way. Strict gun laws only end up disarming law abiding citizens.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/11/local-armed-citizen-pursued-devin-patrick-kelley-vehicle-mass-shooting/

  84. Joe

    Monty, admit that the leak by Mueller’s team breaks the law.

    And yet another example of the authorities knowing of an infringement and taking no action to correct it.

  85. JC

    I don’t have any problem repeating my assertion post-Vegas that men who acquire multiple firearms, especially semi-automatic rifles, ought to be considered lunatics until proved otherwise.

    Or obsessively writing about them on Blogs.

    Marcus Classic, come on down!

  86. Anthony

    Who knows what motivated this murderous lunatic in Texas but I’m willing to bet it was not his love of Jesus that prompted his behaviour. Anarchism possibly, islamic hatred comes in all shapes and colours. Though some people will, on deep reflection, blame the christians in their church. If they didn’t worship their god, there would be no need to kill them.

  87. egg_

    TheirSBS News last night gushing about a huuuge new Solar farm in Chile “because it has no oil” (WTF?)

    SBS News is the low budget Community Channel version of TheirABC News.

    The thing had a central monolith that looked like it was begging for Druids or something to worship it.

    Stalled Chile Solar Farm Is Seeking $800 Million to Restart (Bloomberg)

    EIG Global Energy Partners, the U.S. private equity investor that took over the $1 billion Cerro Dominador solar plant last year, has received interest from “several international banks,” Fernando Gonzalez, the project’s chief executive officer, said in an email Monday. He started pursuing project-finance debt about three weeks ago, and declined to say how much he’s seeking. The company expects to close a deal this year.

    EIG is seeking about $800 million in construction debt, according to the people, who asked not to be identified because they’re not authorized to discuss the matter. An EIG spokesman declined to comment Tuesday on the scale of the deal.

    EIG is moving forward with a project that threatened to become the biggest white elephant in Chile. The 110-megawatt solar-thermal plant previously known as Atacama I was a joint venture between EIG and the distressed Spanish clean-energy giant Abengoa SA. The Spanish developer spent about $200 million before halting work in the Atacama desert in early 2016, as the company teetered on the edge of bankruptcy, and in December gave its stake to EIG.

  88. Joe

    …but I’m willing to bet it was not his love of Jesus that prompted his behaviour.

    Interesting point. Is there a correlation between spree killing and a rejection of religion (especially christianity) of are we dealing with a population effect?

  89. Stimpson J. Cat

    I don’t have any problem repeating my assertion post-Vegas that men who acquire multiple firearms, especially semi-automatic rifles, ought to be considered lunatics until proved otherwise.

    I don’t have any problem repeating my assertion post-Imelda Marcos that wamen who acquire multiple shoes, especially Jimmy Choos, ought to be considered excessive tyrannical lunatics until proved otherwise.

  90. JC

    The better way is not to sack civil servants but not replace them when they leave or retire (ie. within reason).

    Rooster is really out of his depth when he isn’t giving us the latest Ray Hadley utterances or what he picked up on 2GB.

    So I a government gets elected to reduce the mountain of debt by the Liars Party squalids. It begins to reduce taxeater headcount by firing them in order to reduce the debt burden. Rooster reckons this should only be done surreptitiously – in a way the punters and the left wouldn’t understand… That is by natural attrition.
    You should do this otherwise the Left will run mean ads against you. Fme.

  91. egg_

    Who knows what motivated this murderous lunatic in Texas but I’m willing to bet it was not his love of Jesus that prompted his behaviour. Anarchism possibly, islamic hatred comes in all shapes and colours. Though some people will, on deep reflection, blame the christians in their church. If they didn’t worship their god, there would be no need to kill them.

    The FBI are obviously silencing the local cops, if only not to “scare the horses” – from srr’s links, Alex Jones was reporting shooting in 2x other nearby hotels afterwards with Aussies capturing footage on their cellphones.

  92. Baldrick

    So, how does one prohibited from possessing firearms go about accumulating multiple semi-automatic rifles?
    What we have here is a failure to enforce the law. In all recent cases of spree killing by firearms, the perpetrator ALREADY broke the law. Furthermore, it often turns out that the authorities knew and failed to take action to correct the infringement.

    Yes, it’s a failure of law enforcement, not adequate gun control.

  93. Robber Baron

    Northcote By-election update.

    Spotted the first Labor yard sign. It appears a white woman. perhaps she is a “person of colour” or aboriginal or LGBTI, but I can’t tell. But her/ze’s name is Clair Burns. So this is the first sign. It looked freshly planted. Not a dint.

    Poor Vince Fontana, the “Labor Independent;” his signs have been defaced. What a surprise!

    The greens really want this seat badly.

  94. Monty, admit that the leak by Mueller’s team breaks the law.

    No, it’s not. This was determined in the case against Ken Starr, where the court ruled in 1999 that:

    Internal deliberations of prosecutors that do not directly reveal grand jury proceedings are not Rule 6(e) material.

    A report on Mueller’s team deciding that they have enough evidence to indict Flynn seems to be fully covered by that ruling.

  95. Snoopy

    Rooster reckons this should only be done surreptitiously – in a way the punters and the left wouldn’t understand… That is by natural attrition.
    You should do this otherwise the Left will run mean ads against you. Fme.

    The other way worked a treat for Newman and Co.

  96. stackja

    Robber Baron
    #2544399, posted on November 6, 2017 at 12:00 pm

    Union official Clare Burns will be Labor’s candidate for the upcoming by-election in the state seat of Northcote.

    Ms Burns, 32, who is also qualified as a speech pathologist, has lived in the Darebin area for 18 years and is now living in a share house in Northcote.

  97. notafan

    There are hotels in Sutherland Springs Texas?

    With a population of around 500 even one would be an extravagance.

  98. JC

    Ms Burns, 32, who is also qualified as a speech pathologist, has lived in the Darebin area for 18 years and is now living in a share house in Northcote.

    What’s a share house if it’s not a boarding house? Is it some sort of gay house arrangement or something?

  99. Chris

    This is another deranged lunatic obsessed with guns and eager to use them ‘for real’ – while striving for a death toll record. I don’t have any problem repeating my assertion post-Vegas that men who acquire multiple firearms, especially semi-automatic rifles, ought to be considered lunatics until proved otherwise.

    Why, thanks CL, and fuck you too.

  100. egg_

    There are hotels in Sutherland Springs Texas?

    Should have scrolled up – was talking about Vegas.
    Will have to adjust my US-spree-killing-calendar accordingly.

  101. srr

    Thomas Wictor @ThomasWictor

    (7) If @SenWarren and @SenBlumenthal had their way, that armed citizen WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO RESPOND.

    Also note that the media is flooding us with young baby faced images of the mass murderer, NOT this more recent one of him bearded

    David Begnaud‏Verified account
    @DavidBegnaud

    Here’s a picture of the Texas church shooting suspect Devin Patrick Kelley, 26.
    https://twitter.com/DavidBegnaud/status/927336335748358145

  102. notafan

    Should have scrolled up – was talking about Vegas.
    Will have to adjust my US-spree-killing-calendar accordingly.

    You are leg pulling aren’t you?


    because why would they?

  103. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    especially Jimmy Choos

    You know, you might be half right there, Stimps. I had a bothersome fall in some over-high Jimmy’s negotiating a gutter on our way to see ‘Madama Butterfly’ the other day. Bruised a knee and arm falling against a parked car, but boldly got up, dusted off, and proceeded to the show, which of course, must go on.

    I think I might toss them as ungodly. Or perhaps I am simply unworthy of them. 🙂

  104. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Tradie is here. With three others! Hairy instructed I was to supervise the measurements to ensure things were being done according to the decisions made earlier with tradie’s boss. But I feel awkward going out to check on them. I doubt if tradies welcome that. Have discussed all that needs to be done but must make some unobstrusive checks, maybe with offer of a coffee. Using the time to pop in here, plus clean a now-obsolete child’s car seat, not in the car of course. There are lots of nooks and crannies in them for sick and bikkies. Erk.

  105. egg_

    because why would they?

    If so, it seems Jones is easily hoaxed – by multiple accounts.

  106. notafan

    Jones has a history of that.

    Remember his pizza apology?

  107. Mike of Marion

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #2544444, posted on November 6, 2017 at 12:26 pm

    Lizzie, go out there and ask them in a totally convincing voice, “Hubby is on the phone. wants to know if you’ve measured twice so there will be no mistakes!”

  108. notafan

    The video in the Bellaglio, showing people sitting around in the open belies the entire premise which of course all allegedly happened before the vid was shot.

    She could have at least shown us some bullet holes if she couldn’t produce dead and injured people.

  109. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Cosmologies are getting short shrift this morning; perhaps this arvo.
    Meantime, I can keep up with the Cat. A silver lining to those clouds. 🙂

  110. egg_

    Jones has a history of that.

    Remember his pizza apology?

    Nah, but thanks for the heads up – I thought he was sensationalist but not a fool.
    Sadly mistaken.

  111. BorisG

    What we have here is a failure to enforce the law.

  112. BorisG

    I meant to add that maybe this law is hard t9 enforce as gun shop owners don’t know if the person had been dishonorably discharged

  113. BorisG

    Bruce it is you not mont who claimed that Trump can’t get rid of him without a breakdown with Ivanka.

    You do realize you are smearing trump ?

  114. Pedro the Ignorant

    Old thread, Boris, but in Texas, all prospective firearms purchasers are required to complete the FBI’s NICS criminal background check before transferring ownership of a gun.

    A dishonorable discharge from the US military is a felony and felons may not legally own a gun.

  115. BorisG

    Pedro, does it include gun shows?

  116. Zyconoclast:
    Your link to history stuff is great. I just spent an hour going back through the photos.
    Iran was a doozy.
    Any buyers remorse there, girls?

  117. This whole Wussia Uwanium thing.
    Did the XCommos get the physical stuff, or just promises to get some later on?

  118. Tel

    A full-page ad in the New York Times costs about $150,000. Signs cost money, too. It may be chump change to a guy like Soros, but he still must be disappointed in the results.

    He probably donates a lot more than that just to keep the NYT in business. Getting an advertisement now and then makes the whole caper look mildly legit.

  119. Tel

    The Democrats always scream ‘gun control’ after a mass shooting, however; laws do not stop people from obtaining guns. If a person wants to buy a gun, they will find a way. Strict gun laws only end up disarming law abiding citizens.

    Strangely enough they did NOT scream about gun control after the shootings in France.

    They are carefully selective, can’t imagine why. Bit of a mystery there.

  120. rickw

    Tony Abbott (on radio) thanks God for John Howard’s gun laws.

    Fuckwit says this, then this comes out:

    Texas Department of Public Safety Region 6 Director Freeman Martin told reporters during a press conference that a local resident engaged the shooter with his own weapon.

    And then this:

    US federal law prohibits possession of firearms by those who have been dishonorably discharged per the Gun Control Act of 1968.

    The liberals are wall to wall idiots and traitors.

  121. JC

    Kevin Rudd‏Verified account @MrKRudd 4h4 hours ago

    Turnbull’s handling of Manus is inhumane. The 2013 Agreement was for a year. Turnbull has failed to resettle them, so they should come to Oz
    79 replies 233 retweets 369 likes

    JC‏ @jcbm123 3m3 minutes ago
    Replying to @MrKRudd

    Trump should deport you.

    But then.

    JC‏ @jcbm123 53s54 seconds ago
    Replying to @MrKRudd

    On second thoughts, maybe its a better idea if you stay there.
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