Wednesday Forum: October 8, 2017

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  1. Knuckle Dragger

    BrettW,

    +1

    AFAIK Zulu only said that he was familiar with AK47s, having had experience with them in Africa. I don’t to pick fights but I believe it was JC that wove that into an apparent involvement with terrorist groups, as the ‘regular’ Safire forces did not recruit Zulu’s type, therefore he was front and centre with the ANU or similar.

    So yes – JC made the claims, JC can disprove them or provide an apology (not to speak for Zulu).

    Still, from what I understand JC has 100 times the coin I have, if not more, so perhaps a cash settlement may be on the cards.

  2. Oh come on

    Had a convo with a feminist friend recently about the Weinstein thing. She genuinely believes systemic sexism is rampant throughout society. I said to her that, due to the nature of my work, I have worked in several dozen different workplaces over the last couple of years, alongside thousands of colleagues. Once and only once I encountered clear and obvious gender discrimination in a highly dysfunctional workplace – and it was against males. That was very unusual, however. I asked her if she experienced gender discrimination at her work. She works for the APS. No, she doesn’t. So where is this terrible patriarchal oppression, then? It’s there, she claimed, she knows it is. She’s built her entire worldview around this belief so it wasn’t as though I could come along and trash it with basic logic.

    But this is the trouble – a huge cohort of otherwise well-educated, privileged women have been trained to believe they’re victims. And they will deny a hand in front of their face before they let go of this belief, hence the eager uptake of clearly false ‘facts’ like 77c in the dollar, one in four women raped, etc. They need to believe these patently absurd claims to obscure the reality that they aren’t terribly oppressed as women at all in their day-to-day lives.

  3. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Brett W, Zulu has failed to distance himself from allegations that he served with an apartheid-allied paramilitary group in SA or a neighbouring country

    I’m sorry, would you be good enough to distance yourself from allegations that you are an active, practicing member of the Nazi Party?

  4. Oh come on

    Had a convo with a feminist friend recently about the Weinstein thing. She genuinely believes systemic sexism is rampant throughout society. I said to her that, due to the nature of my work, I have worked in several dozen different workplaces over the last couple of years, alongside thousands of colleagues. Once and only once I encountered clear and obvious gender discrimination in a highly dysfunctional workplace – and it was against males. That was very unusual, however. I asked her if she experienced gender discrimination at her work. She works for the APS. No, she doesn’t. So where is this terrible patriarchal oppression, then? It’s there, she claimed, she knows it is. She’s built her entire worldview around this belief so it wasn’t as though I could come along and trash it with basic logic.

    But this is the trouble – a huge cohort of otherwise well-educated, privileged women have been trained to believe they’re victims. And they will deny a hand in front of their face before they let go of this belief, hence the eager uptake of clearly false ‘facts’ like 77c in the dollar, one in four women raped, etc. They need to believe these patently absurd claims to obscure the reality that they aren’t terribly oppressed as women at all in their day-to-day lives.

  5. DrBeauGan

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2548320, posted on November 9, 2017 at 11:47 pm
    If I believed the whole Christian thing, I’d book a ticket to Syria and set off to convert Isis, secure in the belief that God would look after me.

    No you wouldn’t.
    Are you f$cking stupid?
    He let his son get crucified to prove a point.
    So what do you think he is prepared to let happen to everyone else?
    It’s not rocket science.

    So you aren’t a believer either, stimpmeister.

    It’s OK not to be a believer.

    Suffering as I do from an excess of sanity, I have to say that the degree of faith required to go off to convert the paynim looks insane to me. I’m glad to have your agreement on this.

  6. Knuckle Dragger

    ‘Saffie’ forces. That’ll teach me.

  7. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    He also made claims that he was in SA teaching “recruits” the use of AK47s and also said the other side used the same weapons.

    Show me where? Simple enough, surely?

  8. W Hogg

    Is that a silent “h”?
    Jesus F$cking Christ.

    LOL

  9. DrBeauGan

    But this is the trouble – a huge cohort of otherwise well-educated, privileged women have been trained to believe they’re victims. And they will deny a hand in front of their face before they let go of this belief, hence the eager uptake of clearly false ‘facts’ like 77c in the dollar, one in four women raped, etc. They need to believe these patently absurd claims to obscure the reality that they aren’t terribly oppressed as women at all in their day-to-day lives.

    She has faith, OCO. She doesn’t need evidence.

  10. Oh come on

    Knuckle Dragger, please try not to be such a softcock. One anonymous commenter on the internet insulting another anonymous commenter on the internet is not grounds for a defamation case.

    Well, I guess it might be if the plaintiff were an utter, utter fuckwit.

  11. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    AFAIK Zulu only said that he was familiar with AK47s, having had experience with them in Africa

    This is better then the circus. Show me where I made that claim?

  12. Oh come on

    She has faith, OCO. She doesn’t need evidence.

    Neatly interwoven, Dr B.

  13. Knuckle Dragger

    Hey,

    You know which country has AK47s?

    EVERY fucking country, and especially Africa.

  14. Oh come on

    Stimps, why do you bleep out swear words?

  15. JC

    Fisky
    #2548323, posted on November 9, 2017 at 11:48 pm

    Fisky and JC,
    How about you two actually produce the posts by or quotes from Zulu that prove your ridiculous claims that he was involved in atrocities in SA. Put up or shut up.

    Brett W, Zulu has failed to distance himself from allegations that he served with an apartheid-allied paramilitary group in SA or a neighbouring country. He has boasted of “training” people with AK47s, but it is a curious omission as to which theatre he would have trained them. Obviously not in Australia, so the question is, where?

    It’s really a very strange and curious set of circumstances we have , Fisk. I’m perplexed and chagrined to say the least.

    Not a day goes by the Z isn’t talking about military history, boasting about his involvement in the military and what not. Not a day goes by. And when he’s asked a simple question that would shed light on his possible involvement in a hot war, we get nothing. Not even a sentence other than defensive whines and high pitched dog whistles for assistance from others. I really don’t get it.

    It’s perplexing.

    One last time
    The Z

    Seriously, you’re among friends here. Tell us what the hell you were doing wondering around SA in the 80’s teaching angrified schleps how to use AK47s. You weren’t there on a elephant shoot, right?

  16. JC

    This is better then the circus. Show me where I made that claim?

    Here, The Z. May 8th 2017 open thread.

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2376298, posted on May 9, 2017 at 11:51 pm

    Back in the day, I picked up an AK47, in front of a group of new recruits.

  17. Stimpson J. Cat

    So you aren’t a believer either, stimpmeister.

    Yes and no, I’m not like you sane Muppets.
    I live in a fairly constant state of cognitive dissonance, and can believe in multiple contradictory beliefs at the same time. I’ve practiced it for a long time.
    I try very hard not to be righteous about anything in general etc etc, because when people with serious mental illness wholeheartedly believe in something, the results can vary from laughable to tragic to monstrous.
    Righteousness and utter certainty are very dangerous when combined with mental illness.

  18. I see OCO, who was chipping me for believing conspiracy theories the other day, has gone all in on P1zzag4te. LOL.

  19. Stimpson J. Cat

    Stimps, why do you bleep out swear words?

    It’s a Children’s Economics Blog.

  20. You know which country has AK47s?
    EVERY fucking country, and especially Africa.

    And it makes a distinctive sound.

  21. Oh come on

    For the record, I believe Zulu was recounting an anecdote regarding his service in the Army Reserves. It involved a tutorial he was giving regarding how to assemble, disassemble and generally maintain an AK47. Any questions? Zulu recalled asking his pupils after he had finished his demonstration. Yes, said one – again, according to Zulu – where the fuck did you learn this?

    And it was left as a rhetorical question. That, I believe, was the gist of the comment.

  22. JC

    Knuckle Dragger
    #2548338, posted on November 10, 2017 at 12:02 am

    Hey,

    You know which country has AK47s?

    EVERY fucking country, and especially Africa.

    Yes Dragger especially Africa, which is the point seeing the Z sometimes breaks in Afrikaans.

  23. Fisky

    This is better then the circus. Show me where I made that claim?

    You openly claimed to have been training “recruits” in how to use an AK47! Who the hell were these “recruits”? Was it the UNITA mob?

  24. Oh come on

    You are dumber than dogshit, m0nty. Go find an assault victim to laugh at.

  25. egg_

    haha Dastyari, what does he think this is, 2011?

    “Hey staffers, I’m in trouble, help me out here, get me a hijab pull or something on camera – don’t tell me when it’s coming though!”.

    +1

    The stunted stunt man pulls so many cunning stunts, he should replace Wee Man on Jackass.

  26. You’re looking a bit punchdrunk yourself, OCO. I’m laughing at you.

  27. Oh come on

    By the way, m0nty, you colossal wobbling Weinsteinesque chucklehead. Rand Paul sustained 6 broken ribs, not 5. LOL, ey? Ell Oh fucking ell.

    Tosser.

  28. BrettW

    Fisky,
    How exactly could Zulu distance himself from yours and JC’s total twisting of what he has said in the past ? What exactly should he do to disprove your slurs ? JC is well known for twisting peoples words to help him in an argument or attack somebody he does not like (the other evening he was fighting Tom, Cohenite, MV and Zulu at the same time which suggests he has some deep rooted mental issues). Seems like you are quite the JC fan.

    Grateful if you could distance yourself from my allegations that you and JC torture puppies as a hobby. Naturally I have no evidence of this but you need to disprove it.

    Just so we dont forget what this latest shit stirring is about, a reminder :

    JC
    #2546400, posted on November 8, 2017 at 12:16 am

    “Zulu could also clear up for us what he was doing in South Africa in the 80s during the time Australia had sanctions imposed. The SA military didn’t hire outside loser yokels, but terror groups who went around shooting people in the back certainly did. How many people did he kill that were unarmed?
    I wonder what the Australian military would think of someone like Zulu, flouting sanctions to go over to join a terror group and shoot blacks in the back”.

    So JC and Fisky is this something we can expect from you each evening ? Should be fun for all. I am sure JC, being an original and much respected Cat (sarc), will tell us this forum was set up by Sinc just for this kind of purpose.

  29. JC

    The Z

    Seriously, just take a deep breath, push down, reach for the keyboard. and just answer Fisk’s question if you don’t want to answer me directly. Direct the answer to Fisk, if you have to.

    We’re all friends and lovers here.

  30. What’s your favourite pizza topping, OCO? Your stance on pineapple as a topping, if you please?

  31. egg_

    The North Korean regime has responded to Trump with feigned apathy and threats of nuclear annihilation in equal measure. Following his electoral victory a year ago, North Korean official Kim Yong Ho said in a statement, “we do not care.” Yet North Korea’s state propaganda outlets—the Korean Central News Agency (KCNA), Rodong Sinmun, and others—have consistently referred to Trump as an alarming threat to their status quo.

    Sounds like the Asian mind – fvck’em, Trump.

  32. Oh come on

    Yes, I know you are, you intellectual midget. Now run along and play in the traffic. The grown-ups are talking.

  33. JC

    STFU and go to bed, Rooster. Enough crap from you.

  34. The grown-ups are talking.

    Hahahaha, sorry old man, wouldn’t want to interrupt your very serious discussion of Italian restaurants and their central role in the fall of Western civilisation.

  35. Oh come on

    Until you have familiarised yourself with what you think is so hilariously funny, m0nty, you aren’t worth a pinch of shit. Now go away as I’m done with you.

  36. Seems like you are quite the JC fan.

    He’s one of the Fatuous Four, Brett.
    Think of it like this.

  37. JC

    The Z

    Stop coming up with swill about this bet or that.

    Focus. Focus on the question at hand and stop it with the diversions as no one is buying it.

    WTF were you doing in SA in the 80s and why?

  38. I’ll leave the extremely important research into Sharrryl Atttkkkkissson to you, OCO. I’m sure there’s further reading up on Infowars for you.

  39. Oh come on

    Anyway, the answer to the rhetorical question was provided on the thread – Southern Africa, perhaps? It kind of snowballed from there. But Zulu suddenly became absent for that part. Recently we learnt that he was settling a will or somesuch.

  40. JC

    He’s one of the Fatuous Four,

    It’s three, not four, you imbecile.

  41. Oh come on

    m0nty, mock her name all you like. She’s a real journalist while you run a fantasy football site.

  42. DrBeauGan

    Righteousness and utter certainty are very dangerous when combined with mental illness.

    Righteousness and utter certainty are always dangerous. I take the view that utter certainty is a sign of mental illness. Healthy minds have doubts.

  43. Oh come on

    You know, she’s broken real stories, genuinely spoken truth to power, and even written a book or two along the way! A NYT bestseller, even. Maybe you could start a fantasy journalist site where you can emulate her actual achievements, m0nty.

  44. JC

    But Zulu suddenly became absent for that part. Recently we learnt that he was settling a will or somesuch.

    Side splitting funny. The idiot… and he is an idiot of the first order…. was making all those insinuation type denials he had no recollection of what we were talking about…. But he let out that he never returned to respond because he was busy that time executing a will.

    Fmd, that shouldn’t have been a complex lie. There was no complexity there. It wasn’t even a web. It was a straight 100 meter dash.

  45. zyconoclast

    …Authentic Persian…

    Still having a go at Sam Dastardly?

  46. Oh yes OCO, she does deserve to be mocked. She is in the Louise Mensch zone now. Seems to be a trend, seemingly normal people just flipping into insanity.

  47. JC

    seemingly normal people just flipping into insanity.

    You’ve been there since your teens.

  48. Knuckle Dragger

    OCO,

    I never said anything about court, unlike some others here talking about different things.

    I just thought it might be nice to do when ‘allegations’ of this type are not proven by the claimant.

    Jesus wept.

  49. Oh come on

    Go work on your website, m0nts. Work it really hard. Remember, you’re soooo busy and have no time for anything. Nobody cares either way.

  50. Mitch M.

    I live in a fairly constant state of cognitive dissonance, and can believe in multiple contradictory beliefs at the same time. I’ve practiced it for a long time.

    “The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two
    opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability
    to function.”
    — F. Scott Fitzgerald

  51. DrBeauGan

    M0nty shouldn’t discuss insanity. The stimpmeister is the only competent authority here.

  52. Fisky

    So JC and Fisky is this something we can expect from you each evening ? Should be fun for all. I am sure JC, being an original and much respected Cat (sarc), will tell us this forum was set up by Sinc just for this kind of purpose.

    I think the forum needs more of a personal touch, not just discussing dry, technical stuff like monetary policy.

  53. Oh come on

    I never said anything about court,

    KD, people don’t make cash settlements (or whatever term you used) without a threat of going to trial.

    You “just thought it was a nice thing to do” (“it” being JC paying Zulu money), and you end your comment with “Jesus wept”??

    FMD some people are totally oblivious.

  54. The stimpmeister is the only competent authority here.

    Don’t be fooled by stage personas, Dr Beaugan.
    Stimpy is the sanest person here. He passes the Socrates Test.

  55. C.L.

    Trump got the red carpet at the airport; Obama got no stairs and had to exit from the “ass” of the plane; now Trump is the first foreign leader to dine in the Forbidden City in the modern epoch. The Chinese regarded Obama as an inconsequential clown.

  56. BrettW

    Well there you have it ! The evidence according to JC. No mention of SA or them being African recruits

    OCO said “For the record, I believe Zulu was recounting an anecdote regarding his service in the Army Reserves. It involved a tutorial he was giving regarding how to assemble, disassemble and generally maintain an AK47. Any questions? Zulu recalled asking his pupils after he had finished his demonstration. Yes, said one – again, according to Zulu – where the fuck did you learn this?”

    No personal knowledge but I am guessing weapons training in the Army would include some playing with AK47’s at some point. After all it is a weapon many potential enemies would be using. OCO’s recollection suggests Zulu was involved in training new recruits and any new recruit would probably be impressed with any instructor who could assemble and disassemble such a weapon if they themselves were new to weapon handling.

    So there we have it, the conclusive evidence that leads JC to make his comments that Zulu has shot people in the back and burnt people alive. JC was wasted in the share trading game, he should have been a lawyer. His knowledge of evidence is just mind blowing.

    Now time for bed as know this pointless baiting by JC and Fisky will continue tomorrow and we can continue where we left off.
    JC
    #2548341, posted on November 10, 2017 at 12:08 am
    This is better then the circus. Show me where I made that claim?

    Here, The Z. May 8th 2017 open thread.

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    #2376298, posted on May 9, 2017 at 11:51 pm

    Back in the day, I picked up an AK47, in front of a group of new recruits.

  57. egg_

    North Korea to Americans: ‘Oust the Lunatic Old Man’ Trump or Face ‘Abyss of Doom’

    Methinks ‘Rocket Man’ is looking more like Wiley E. Coyote and his ACME H-Bomb.

  58. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    For the record, I believe Zulu was recounting an anecdote regarding his service in the Army Reserves. It involved a tutorial he was giving regarding how to assemble, disassemble and generally maintain an AK47. Any questions? Zulu recalled asking his pupils after he had finished his demonstration. Yes, said one – again, according to Zulu – where the fuck did you learn this?

    I’m sitting on the verandah of the retirement property, drinking good Scotch, and enjoying the uproar. I was a Reservist after leaving the regular forces, and that’s all it was. “Yes, where the fuck did you learn how to use an AK47.”

    Watching JC get his knickers in a twist is well worth it.

  59. I think the forum needs more of a personal touch, not just discussing dry, technical stuff like monetary policy.

    We haven’t had a decent stoush about monetary policy in months. I blame Dot.

  60. Oh come on

    If being a competent authority on a topic of discussion is the bar we set, m0nty ought not discuss anything.

  61. C.L.

    Attention-addicted communist, Fr George Bergoglio, wants another pat on the back …

    So:

    Vatican bans cigarettes.

    Pope Francis has ordered a ban on the sale of cigarettes inside the Vatican from next year because of health concerns, a spokesman said on Thursday.

  62. egg_

    The Chinese regarded Obama as an inconsequential clown.

    They probably look down upon Moors, unbeknownst to OBambi.

  63. Mitch M.

    Atheists are obsessed with God, I’ve said it before here when there was a bit of fuss over the same issue. They truly are God-botherers.

    Nah, atheists like me are more interested in molecules and how the damn hell the immune system is capable of responding to tiny protein fragments held against a cell membrane by receptors. I still don’t get that. I know plenty of atheists, we’re focused on solvable problems. One of my heuristics is that if people have spent hundreds let alone thousands of years debating an issue then it is not going to solved by me and in the absence new data it is not going to solved by anyone.

  64. JC

    I’m sitting on the verandah of the retirement property, drinking good Scotch, and enjoying the uproar. I was a Reservist after leaving the regular forces, and that’s all it was. “Yes, where the fuck did you learn how to use an AK47.”

    Watching JC get his knickers in a twist is well worth it.

    naaaa, OCO gave you that out. No luck, I’m not buying it especially with your boastful knowledge of Afrikaans. It’s not eggsactly like French that one would learn at school.

  65. Snoopy

    Pope Francis has ordered a ban on the sale of cigarettes inside the Vatican from next year because of health concerns, a spokesman said on Thursday.

    How far is it from the Vatican to the nearest Italian smoke shop?

  66. I’m sitting on the verandah of the retirement property, drinking good Scotch

    Wish I could be with you. I desperately need a good drunk with friends right now.
    After a tipoff, I spent the afternoon exploring the ramifications of the “Common Informers (Parliamentary Disqualification) Act, 1975”.

    The bastards supposedly running the country made themselves immune to any interference by us minions, nearly fifty years ago. They’ve been laughing at us ever since. Very depressing.

  67. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Anyway, the answer to the rhetorical question was provided on the thread – Southern Africa, perhaps? It kind of snowballed from there. But Zulu suddenly became absent for that part. Recently we learnt that he was settling a will or somesuch

    I was settling my late father’s will. I had better things to do then argue with the likes of the circus about how many African guerilla’s, carrying AK – 47’s, can dance on the head of a pin.

  68. Knuckle Dragger

    Good point BrettW.

    I was given instruction in the use, assembly/disassembly of the AK and RPD in my time, as these were commonly used by potential hostile nations. Simple.

    I must have missed the lessons on necklacing, though.

  69. Fisky

    I learned Afrikaans! *wink wink* I’m really good with AK47s, but not telling where I got that! *nudge nudge*

    Zulu would now have you believe he learned Afrikaans in TAFE night classes. There was so much demand for Afrikaans at the time, you see, everyone was signing up to learn the international language of trade and tourism, that being Afrikaans.

  70. OldOzzie

    One Year Ago Hillary Clinton Became First Losing Presidential Candidate in 50 Years to Not Concede in Public Speech

    One year ago today Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump waited for the results to the US Presidential election. It was the most watched and talked about election in US History. Hillary was planning on becoming the first woman President in US history.

    The Empire State Building was bathed in patriotic colors. Hillary Clinton supporters gathered in New York to celebrate Hillary becoming the first female President of the United States. At the beginning of the evening on November 8th the Democrats, mainstream media and #NeverTrumpers in the Republican Party all considered Hillary a shoe-in to win the election. The far-left website Huffington Post predicted a greater than 98% chance of Hillary winning the election –

    The New York Times had a Presidential tracker at the beginning of the night that predicted a Hillary win probability of 80% with Donald Trump at only 20%.

    As the night went on the unthinkable happened. The results began turning in Donald Trump’s favor. State by state a majority of American people voted for Donald Trump. On the early morning of November 9th, one year ago Donald Trump was declared the winner of the Presidential election.

    Hillary supporters were shocked and devastated. They could not believe their eyes. Grown men with pink “Hillary” hats cried on national TV. But their leader Hillary was no where to be found. Eventually, she sent her creepy Campaign Manager, John Podesta, to her ‘victory’ party to share the news. He said, “Everybody should head home to get some sleep. We’ll have more to say tomorrow.”

    Hillary eventually did call the Trump campaign and conceded.

    It is unknown why Hillary did not make a concession speech but she didn’t, and it turned out to be the first time in 50 years that the loser failed to give a concession speech after the Presidential election votes were tallied. Was she too sick as had been obvious to the readers of this site? Was she too drunk as it was known that she was a heavy drinker? Maybe she was just too upset and emotional to do the mature thing? Was she too busy working on covering up her criminal deeds that she had hoped would disappear forever after her expected win?

    No one really knows why Hillary didn’t give a concession speech one year ago today. But the fact is she didn’t and because of this and other actions since the election, she will go down not only as the first female candidate to win a major political party’s nomination for President, but she will be always remembered as one of the greatest losers in US history.

    MAGA

  71. C.L.

    How far is it from the Vatican to the nearest Italian smoke shop?

    Vatican cigs are a lot cheaper, offered at discount for citizens.

  72. if people have spent hundreds let alone thousands of years debating an issue then it is not going to solved by me and in the absence new data it is not going to solved by anyone.

    Welcome to Philosophical Taoism, friend.

  73. JC

    There was so much demand for Afrikaans at the time, you see, everyone was signing up to learn the international language of trade and tourism, that being Afrikaans.

    It took over French as the language of diplomacy. All they spoke at the UN.

    The Z of course was the Australian agricultural attache to the OECD and hence why he had to learn Afrikaans at the local TAFE..

  74. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Zulu would now have you believe he learned Afrikaans in TAFE night classes. There was so much demand for Afrikaans at the time, you see, everyone was signing up to learn the international language of trade and tourism, that being Afrikaans

    The Memsahib is Dutch. When you have been to South Africa, and have a knowledge of Afrikaans insults, and the local indigenous, in Australia, spit on you, and call you a “white count”, being able to reply in a language they don’t understand, is an advantage…

  75. OneWorldGovernment

    Talking about pizza.

    Curious story at https://www.lizcrokin.com/ with a post that looks something like this,

    Trump Takes Down Over Two Dozen Elite *3d*files Including Celebrities & Politicians

  76. Oh come on

    “Common Informers (Parliamentary Disqualification) Act, 1975”.

    That damn Federation Chamber again! They get us every time.

  77. OneWorldGovernment

    JC

    Afrikaans is an isolated version of Dutch.

    I forget when the Dutch went to South Africa but it was some centuries ago and their language didn’t keep changing as it did in the home country.

    An Australian Italian mate of mine went back to look up the village where his grandparents came from and he was mortified to find how the Italian he learned had stopped developing to the point he could only understand the old people in that village.

  78. JC

    Anyone know what the house is if Alexander is gonsky? The libs would be in a minority., no?

    Malcolm Turnbull has set up a clash with Bill Shorten over four Labor MPs who face growing questions about their right to sit in federal parliament, clearing the ground for an extraordinary round of by-elections to decide the government’s fate early next year.

    The Prime Minister spurned the Opposition Leader’s call to shield the MPs from a Coalition vote to refer them to the High Court over their citizenship, in a dramatic expansion of the number of MPs who risk being disqualified from parliament.

    There was mounting internal speculation last night that Liberal MP John Alexander has realised he has a problem with dual citizenship and is planning to announce his resignation as early as the weekend, paving the way for a by-election. Sources told The Australian last night Mr Alexander had considered resigning earlier in the week but had been talked out of it.

    Mr Turnbull yesterday gave ground on his initial plan to give MPs until December 18 to reveal their citizenship status to federal parliament, suggesting a new deadline of December 7 and vowing to decide the referrals by the end of the year. The new plan rips up earlier government warnings about the “very dangerous” path of using a vote by one party to refer members of another to the High Court, signalling the government’s fury at Labor’s refusal over several months to release more details about its own MPs.

    What amazes me is why the libs took so long to demand answers from the Liar Party side on who are questionable.

    Mr Turnbull is acting on new legal advice from outside the ­government that argues MPs — such as Labor’s four backbenchers under a cloud, Justine Keay, Madeleine King, Susan Lamb and Josh Wilson — should expect to be disqualified from parliament if they did not complete the renunciation of their British citizenship by the time they nominated for last year’s federal election.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/turnbull-ignites-citizenship-war-over-four-labor-mps/news-story/1ae66db2f25f0c2637ed190121db6475

  79. “Common Informers (Parliamentary Disqualification) Act, 1975”.
    That damn Federation Chamber again! They get us every time.

    Common Informers (Parliamentary Disqualification) Act, 1975
    Federation Chamber originally established in 1998, and renamed in 2012.

    Come back when you’re old enough to be allowed to wear long pants, OCO.

  80. Oh come on

    Zulu, here’s the thing. You frequently claim to speak Afrikaans. You have often alluded to SpecOps service but have carefully obfuscated where this took place. Not in an ADF unit – you are too young for Malaya, you said you didn’t serve in VN and you say you were in the Reserves. You posted something about how you intimately knew your way around an AK47. Australian Reservists were surprised that you had this knowledge, presumably for a reason.

    If you ever were active, I imagine it would have been in the 70s and 80s. You speak Afrikaans. You’re the full bottle on AK47s.

    So you served in southern Africa. Not really such a long now to draw, is it?

  81. Oh come on

    A long bow, not a long now.

  82. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    JC

    Afrikaans is an isolated version of Dutch.

    I’m well aware of that, thank you, and I’m also well aware of the fact that the Dutch established the Cape Colony in the mid 1650’s. They may have enslaved or driven off the original inhabitants – the Hottentots and the Bushmen – but the Cape Colony was established over a hundred years before the ancestors of the tribesmen there, who now claim occupancy, fled the rise of the Zulu Nation, a hundred years later.

  83. JC

    That damn Federation Chamber again! They get us every time.

    I know. Tell me about it! The stuff that comes out of the federation chamber is hugely concerning.

    OCO, we need stop talking about it because it could instigate a police raid on our homes. Moassad could be looking into it.

  84. twostix

    Maybe you could start a fantasy journalist site where you can emulate her actual achievements, m0nty.

    Poor m0nty.

    Worse, because he was once a “journalist” for retard IT magazines, right before the entire IT journalism industry collapsed due to its ridiculous shilling and fakery, incidentally.

  85. Oh come on

    Are you really that stupid, MV? Really? You hadn’t even heard of the Federation Chamber until a few weeks ago at most. And yet you’re lecturing me? It was a joke, dummy. The sinister Common Informers Act and the sinister Federation Chamber – you’re a veritable truffle pig for the sinister machinations of Canberra, you really are. Keep up the research. Your radar for sinister shit is so finely tuned.

  86. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Zulu, here’s the thing. You frequently claim to speak Afrikaans. You have often alluded to SpecOps service but have carefully obfuscated where this took place

    I’ll ask you the same question that no one else has answered – where have I ever alluded to Spec Ops service?

  87. JC

    I’ll ask you the same question that no one else has answered – where have I ever alluded to Spec Ops service?

    Turn it around and you answer that question. Have you ever alluded to Spec ops service or not. Yes or no?

  88. Oh come on

    Zulu, I don’t really have any beef with you. But if you did serve in southern Africa and you don’t want people to know about this, then stop yapping about it because – knowingly or unknowingly – you’re hinting very strongly that you did.

    If you didn’t serve in southern Africa and you would prefer people didn’t assume you did, stop blabbing about much of the stuff you’ve blabbed about, because you are causing people to reasonably suspect you may have.

  89. Watching JC get his knickers in a twist is well worth it.

    FMD, doncha have better things to do with your time?
    Then again, it’s not as if this is an economics blog or anything.

  90. I know. Tell me about it! The stuff that comes out of the federation chamber is hugely concerning.

    Another child, not yet into long pants. Tell you what, JC, you’ve allegedly got plenty of money. Here’s what S46 of the Australian Constitution has to say:

    Until the Parliament otherwise provides, any person declared by this Constitution to be incapable of sitting as a senator or as a member of the House of Representatives shall, for every day on which he so sits, be liable to pay the sum of one hundred pounds to any person who sues for it in any court of competent jurisdiction.

    YOU are “any person”. The number of days sat is available on the Parliamentary website. In QLD at least, the “court of competent jurisdiction” for money matters between $25,000 and $150,000 is the Magistrate’s Court. So, off you go. Get yourself a QC and start suing these bastards. Barnaby Joyce was originally elected in 2006, and has sat in the Senate for at least 500 days. There’s a cool $100,000 plus just for starters. Let us know how you get on.

  91. JC

    MV

    I don’t your past and I don’t like what you’re about now. I really don’t want to converse with you in any shape or form. Fuck off.

  92. Oh come on

    MV, see this is where a little knowledge doesn’t go a long way at all. The 100 pound penalty/day was amended in the Whitlam years by Act of Parliament, something that the constitution allows. The section you mention specifically states that the penalty shall apply until parliament makes alternative arrangements. Parliament has made alternative arrangements.

  93. Oh come on

    100 pound/day penalty, even

  94. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Zulu, I don’t really have any beef with you. But if you did serve in southern Africa and you don’t want people to know about this, then stop yapping about it because – knowingly or unknowingly – you’re hinting very strongly that you did.

    Quite simple. Show me where I’ve ever claimed to have served in South Africa. Simple.

  95. OneWorldGovernment

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2548413, posted on November 10, 2017 at 1:12 am

    JC

    Afrikaans is an isolated version of Dutch.

    I’m well aware of that, thank you, and I’m also well aware of the fact that the Dutch established the Cape Colony in the mid 1650’s. They may have enslaved or driven off the original inhabitants – the Hottentots and the Bushmen – but the Cape Colony was established over a hundred years before the ancestors of the tribesmen there, who now claim occupancy, fled the rise of the Zulu Nation, a hundred years later.

    ZK2A

    I am not having ‘a shot’ at you merely pointing out that it is not difficult to be in a situation of knowing Afrikaans.

    People want to talk about refugees but they ignore the white population of current Sth Africa and I’m not sure how many whites are generally left in the old Rhodesia and surrounds but Australia should offer them refugee status and passage to Australia.

    And yes ZK2A I am aware that the Zulu’s drove their own people in front of them.

    JC, South Africa is another failed marxist state.

  96. Where has all this “Southern Africa” talk come from?
    Are we off on a safari of Catallaxians or something?
    To shoot some Zebras or whatever?

  97. Oh come on

    Now it’s a $200 fine plus $200/day for every day that the MP continues to sit in parliament *after* being deemed ineligible. That’s vastly less punitive than the original stipulation.

  98. Mitch M.

    Welcome to Philosophical Taoism, friend.

    Thanks MV. I don’t know why but when I discovered Zen\Tao it was like zephyr on a hot’s summer day: refreshing but not forceful. Love the stuff.

  99. I don’t your past and I don’t like what you’re about now.
    I really don’t want to converse with you in any shape or form. Fuck off.

    Then just maybe you shouldn’t insinuate yourself in over the top of my replies to other commentators. It’s not as though you were invited. As for effing off, yeah, I’m going to bed.

  100. MV, see this is where a little knowledge doesn’t go a long way at all.

    You said, it bro. As amply demonstrated by this:

    Now it’s a $200 fine plus $200/day for every day that the MP continues to sit in parliament *after* being deemed ineligible.

    Not even close.

  101. OneWorldGovernment

    Oh come on
    #2548430, posted on November 10, 2017 at 1:36 am

    Now it’s a $200 fine plus $200/day for every day that the MP continues to sit in parliament *after* being deemed ineligible. That’s vastly less punitive than the original stipulation.

    Yes OCO

    The penalty may apply from when they are deemed ineligible BUT is the legislation they approved operable or NOT.

    It would seem to me that if WE have had ineligible parliamentarians voting crap laws into existence then WE, the Australian People, can strip out most laws from the last (?) 70 years.

  102. JC

    Serena at the Pub
    #2548429, posted on November 10, 2017 at 1:34 am

    Where has all this “Southern Africa” talk come from?
    Are we off on a safari of Catallaxians or something?
    To shoot some Zebras or whatever?

    Here’s you, before you changed gender and became a woman, Serena. Your name at the time was Sal, recall?

    You were telling us the Z had become a super alpha male as a result of the new insight into the doofuses past life.

    Salvatore at the Pub
    #2377034, posted on May 10, 2017 at 7:19 pm

    Now that the Cat has worked out that Zulu is Mike Hoare’s sidekick – thus raising ZK2A’s machismo credentials to the stratosphere

  103. I can’t get over these dual citizens.
    Who the heck was in the charge at Beersheba? It seems as if everybody got here since the 1950’s.
    The way it is going, pretty soon it’ll be Bob Katter only in parliament.

  104. OneWorldGovernment

    And if the parliamentarians were not eligible for the last 70 years then they need to go back to parliamentary pay and conditions for 70 years.

    And if some UNIparty politician was not eligible then yes, go on the old age pension.

  105. Turn it up JC.
    Any talk here this evening has most definitely not been kicked off by someone making a dry comment several months ago.

    Score “F” for making stuff up.

  106. Oh come on

    But that’s not the contention, Zulu. No one is saying you claimed to serve in South Africa. It seems to me that, given the totality of the things you’ve said in the past, there’s a reasonable chance you’ve served in southern Africa (not South Africa – a distinction someone who speaks Afrikaans would be well aware of). You are acting awfully slippery about this. A flat out denial would do. Hell, a none of your bloody business would do. But no. You keep playing semantics, and that’s the biggest giveaway of all that you have something that you don’t want to come clean about, yet it appears to me you’d like the recognition of being viewed as a veteran who’s been in The Shit.

    Trouble is, you can’t have both and you need to decide whether you want to be seen as the hero – in which case, you have some questions to answer. Alternatively, if you have something you decide is best hidden, can I suggest you be more discreet about your past service in general. People are always going to put two and two together if you provide it to them.

  107. JC

    Turn it up JC.
    Any talk here this evening has most definitely not been kicked off by someone making a dry comment several months ago.

    Score “F” for making stuff up.

    Oh okay, because that would be the first time since 2004 that I’ve seen you try to be witty and “dry”. That’s because you’re not.

  108. Oh come on

    MV, see this is where a little knowledge doesn’t go a long way at all.

    You said, it bro. As amply demonstrated by this:

    Now it’s a $200 fine plus $200/day for every day that the MP continues to sit in parliament *after* being deemed ineligible.

    Not even close.

    Great. What have I got wrong?

  109. Great. What have I got wrong?

    Pretty much everything.

  110. Oh come on

    Don’t piss about, MV. Tell me where I’m wrong or fuck off.

  111. Fisky

    But that’s not the contention, Zulu. No one is saying you claimed to serve in South Africa. It seems to me that, given the totality of the things you’ve said in the past, there’s a reasonable chance you’ve served in southern Africa (not South Africa – a distinction someone who speaks Afrikaans would be well aware of). You are acting awfully slippery about this. A flat out denial would do. Hell, a none of your bloody business would do. But no. You keep playing semantics, and that’s the biggest giveaway of all that you have something that you don’t want to come clean about, yet it appears to me you’d like the recognition of being viewed as a veteran who’s been in The Shit.

    Trouble is, you can’t have both and you need to decide whether you want to be seen as the hero – in which case, you have some questions to answer. Alternatively, if you have something you decide is best hidden, can I suggest you be more discreet about your past service in general. People are always going to put two and two together if you provide it to them.

    This is all so obvious, especially when you look at the all wriggling and semantic games.

  112. BorisG

    I asked her if she experienced gender discrimination at her work. She works for the APS. No, she doesn’t.

    But this is the trouble – a huge cohort of otherwise well-educated, privileged women have been trained to believe they’re victims

    Looks like she does not actually believe that she is a victim, but that other women are.

    BTW the reference to Weinstein is confusing to me because sexism/sex discrimination and sexual abuse/harassment are different and unrelated species. Simplistically, the former is when a man is chosen for a job over a better qualified woman. The latter is where the woman is chosen on implied condition that she will sleep with the interviewer.

  113. Oh come on

    What’s so funny is that MV claims to have spent the afternoon reviewing the Common Informers Act of 1975, which is a very brief piece of legislation, as far as they go.

    Must be a slow reader.

    Here’s another tipoff for you, MV – you could have looked into this months ago, when the Act you’re so fired up about was first mentioned here.

    Or did it take you that long to read it?

  114. JC

    The Z

    I know I’m being insensitive again, surely earning the Rooster’s ire in the morning after he awakens and gets used to the light (it scares him at first). But you really are a first order weasel. As OCO and Fisk have said, you have been playing this game alluding you’re some hotstuff military vet and also playing games about knowing Afrikaans.

    Stop being a weasel and either fess up to it or fuck off with the military bullshit.

    Let me give you my word, that if you decide to fess up to having been in SA I will not kid you about it and will leave it there because lots of people have dark shady sides and it’s not right to give them/you a hard time about it.

    Up to you, but don’t play these weasel games, or at least try not to. I know it would be hard for you being who you are of course.

  115. Don’t piss about, MV. Tell me where I’m wrong or fuck off.

    To be honest, OCO, I’d rather leave you to wallow in your own pig ignorance.
    So I guess I’ll just finish my wine, and then eff off to bed as per JC’s instructions.
    It will be interesting to see how deep a hole you have dug yourself in the morning.

    ———————–
    PS – Yes, I may be a slow reader, but at least I usually get it right.

  116. OneWorldGovernment

    Basically, the entire continents of Africa and South America are failed.

    All they can do is fall back to their native state in Africa and destroy each other on old Euro standards in Sth America.

  117. Oh come on

    No, you get it wrong. Just like with the Federation Chamber. You’re wrong again, and you know it. Hence you beating a hasty retreat. Lame.

  118. Oh come on

    And don’t for a second think I believe you are being honest, MV. You’ve got nothing. I know it and you know it. That’s why you’re scurrying back under the fridge like a startled cockroach.

  119. Oh come on

    South America is a failed continent? They have their problems but that’s a bit bloody harsh.

  120. JC

    That’s why you’re scurrying back under the fridge like a startled cockroach.

    Cohenite, hates cockroaches. Try to avoid the use of the word next time.

  121. Oh come on

    I always pictured cohenite as a 1950s housewife with her pumped can of Mortein.

  122. OneWorldGovernment

    I am of the firm belief that there should be barrels of loaded handguns placed on every street corner of Chicago, every Friday night.

    I am of the firm belief that Australians should be allowed to carry guns because the police cannot prevent.

  123. Hence you beating a hasty retreat. Lame.

    Nothing hasty about my “retreat” OCO – I’ve still got half a glass of wine to finish.
    The article you linked to was written before, and commented on, before the pollies had taken certain recent actions, which now clearly define where they are going with all this.

    —————————
    Please note – None of this happened in the Federation Chamber, if that helps.

  124. OneWorldGovernment

    Oh come on
    #2548455, posted on November 10, 2017 at 2:15 am

    South America is a failed continent? They have their problems but that’s a bit bloody harsh.

    Tell me which country in South America is succeeding.

  125. Fisky

    Tell me which country in South America is succeeding.

    Chile is going great! Has been since 1973, especially the thriving helicopter industry.

  126. Steve trickler.

    WAR is coming between Australia and the United States.



  127. JC

    Chile, sure Mexico is in the North but its also south of the border and Mexico is doing okay. Argentina with the new right wing government is also on the mend. Columbia is trotting along too. It’s not a total wash out there.

  128. BorisG

    Yes, I may be a slow reader, but at least I usually get it right.

    yes especially in your LaRouche / newsletter times he-he

  129. BorisG

    Tell me which country in South America is succeeding.

    Brazil is experiencing some trouble at the moment but over a long period has been impressive.

    and Uruguay above all.

  130. Steve trickler.

    John Zappia is the bloke from Perth. Western Australia.

  131. After some hard thought and careful observation you come to see that most of them don’t really believe what they say they do. They just feel better pretending they do. If I believed the whole Christian thing, I’d book a ticket to Syria and set off to convert Isis, secure in the belief that God would look after me. This might lead to my head being chopped off, but I’d just get to heaven that much sooner.

    But why is doing that the only evidence of sincere belief? As opposed to establishing charities, schools, universities, or satisfying one’s obligations to family, friends, etc. and performing daily devotions, or, as you say, engaging in evangelization, which I think is more needed here in the West than Syria. Your demand simply makes no sense of contemplatives or contemplative orders, and if it doesn’t, I dare say, you do not understand the ‘whole Christian thing’ at all.

  132. Thanks MV. I don’t know why but when I discovered Zen\Tao it was like zephyr on a hot’s summer day: refreshing but not forceful. Love the stuff.

    No probs, Mitch. “The Tao According to Pooh” by Benjamin Hoff is a great primer.

    Now for bed.

  133. OneWorldGovernment

    Fisky
    #2548462, posted on November 10, 2017 at 2:25 am

    Chile is going great! Has been since 1973, especially the thriving helicopter industry.

    Someone has to feed the fish.

    Didn’t one of JC’s mates make a lot of money out of arbitraging protean supplies for Japan between anchovies from Chile and soybeans from the USA?

  134. OneWorldGovernment

    Don’t know how accurate you blokes are about South America but I notice not one of you said anything against my comment about the African Continent.

  135. OneWorldGovernment

    By the way, I mainly rely upon The CIA World Factbook for my assessments of a foreign country.

    https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/

  136. OneWorldGovernment

    Someone posted up thread the start of this post at American Thinker that sets out the marxist control of UNESCO and the UN in general.

    UNESCO has a new communist head, same as the old communist head

    West Australian Senator Dean Smith proudly says he has legislation already written and will introduce it next week when the SSM vote results in a YES vote and he anticipates that no one will oppose it from either side.

    I didn’t think that an Australian Senator could introduce legislation and if he does and the Australian Parliament accepts that then there are NO laws in Australia and the revolution will commence.

    I want to see some parliamentarians introduce legislation to withdraw Australia from the UN and all f*cking legislation we have adopted from the UN.

    What the upthread poster did not show was the complete marxist takeover of the UN in general.

  137. But unfortunately all my reasons for that belief are based on experience which took place fourteen billion years after the origin of the universe, which means it is quite useless at explaining a singular event fourteen billion years ago.

    I don’t buy this argument at all. We have no reason at all for believing that the universe is a thing as opposed to a mereological sum of things. And scientists seem to have no in-principle problem attempting to explain how those things that compose it such as galaxies, stars, planets, and the like, pass in and out of existence even though this may have occurred 13.6 , 4.6, or 3 billion years ago. So one has to wonder why such a problem pertains to ‘the universe’.

  138. DrBeauGan

    But why is doing that the only evidence of sincere belief? As opposed to establishing charities, schools, universities, or satisfying one’s obligations to family, friends, etc. and performing daily devotions, or, as you say, engaging in evangelization, which I think is more needed here in the West than Syria. Your demand simply makes no sense of contemplatives or contemplative orders, and if it doesn’t, I dare say, you do not understand the ‘whole Christian thing’ at all.

    I think if I were a believer, Dover, that would be what seems me the right thing to do. Much like st. Paul in fact. Put it down to my passionate nature. Joining a contemplative order would strike me as a cop out and unworthy of a serious commitment. Take it up with the apostles. Convince Peter and Paul.

  139. Theism is…unprovable.

    The above claim is self-defeating if we apply the same standard of proof.

  140. OneWorldGovernment

    JC is actually on the right track.

    If you can create something out of nothing then there is a God, or we do not exist.

    Which is it?

  141. DrBeauGan

    I don’t buy this argument at all. We have no reason at all for believing that the universe is a thing as opposed to a mereological sum of things. And scientists seem to have no in-principle problem attempting to explain how those things that compose it such as galaxies, stars, planets, and the like, pass in and out of existence even though this may have occurred 13.6 , 4.6, or 3 billion years ago. So one has to wonder why such a problem pertains to ‘the universe’.

    Your innocence of the few things we know about space-time is a bit of a handicap, Dover. It makes debate pointless. I wish it were otherwise. I enjoy arguing with you. But short of teaching you general relativity we’ve come to a dead end. I can recommend a good book, misner, wheeler and thorne . Gravitation. Don’t expect to finish it any time soon.

  142. Joining a contemplative order would strike me as a cop out and unworthy of a serious commitment.

    And you would be quite within your rights to make such a prudential judgement, and so the tradition cultivates the mendicant and the contemplative.

  143. Your innocence of the few things we know about space-time is a bit of a handicap, Dover.

    Hand-waving.

  144. OneWorldGovernment

    What foul Australian politicians we have and how foolish we were to believe the foul Liberal Party of Australia.

    Go and Get fundamentally far away ALL of you.

    Smith joined the Liberal Party at the age of 17, and later worked as a policy advisor to Premier of Western Australia Richard Court. In 1998, he was a senior advisor to Prime Minister John Howard during the Coalition’s 1998 federal election campaign. In 2010, he founded Smith & Duda Consulting, a political lobbying firm,[2] and also served as treasurer of the Liberal Party state branch in Western Australia.[3]

    Smith was appointed to the Senate on 2 May 2012 by a joint sitting of the Parliament of Western Australia, to fill a casual vacancy caused by the death of Senator Judith Adams.[4] Smith was the first, from the Liberal Party, openly-LGBTI member of the Parliament of Australia and supports Gay marriage in Australia.[5] In the past however he opposed same-sex marriage and voted against it.[6]

    Smith is a member of a number of political and community organisations, including Australians for Constitutional Monarchy and Australian National Flag Association.

    NEVER worked a day in his life.

  145. OneWorldGovernment

    How do we know that Senator Smith from Mirrabooka is eligible to stand in the Senate.

    He obviously knows nothing about the Australian Constitution because he says he will introduce SSM Legislation when the Australian Constitution clearly states that NO legislation can be introduced from The Senate.

  146. OneWorldGovernment

    Is Malcolm Turnbull allowed to be an Australian parliamentarian?

    Maybe there is a real reason why he wants a Republic which is to get rid of his shame.

  147. David

    Monty,

    A brief reply to let you know that I did read your reply to me on the old thread. Was waiting to get some clear air to reply in full, but the last and current thread have been swamped with other matters. Also I was on two long late night shifts for work and I haven’t had time to read each thread in full.

    I’d like to thank you for taking the time to answer exactly as I asked. You outlined the worst case and were careful to indicate what you thought was less likely. I certainly hope no-one takes you out of context and claims you made a “prediction” because that wasn’t the point.

    Note that we are unlikely to agree. Two people can look at the same data and come to different conclusions. But you genuinely surprised me with new allegations that I had not previously heard before, so thank you.

    Apologies for not replying sooner.

  148. Leigh Lowe

    OneWorldGovernment

    #2548504, posted on November 10, 2017 at 4:46 am

    Is Malcolm Turnbull allowed to be an Australian parliamentarian

    He’s got bigger problems.
    Auckland Police have named him as a suspect in the killing of Jacinda Arden’s cat.

  149. srr

    One thing about the videos I share by young atheists & agnostics cutting down rabid Leftists, is that they’ve all been excellent at exposing this mob for what they are – an evil mob that were quiet influential on young atheists and agnostics (thanks to Soros & Co. money & influence), until those young peoples peers argued back –

    Alt-Left Conspiracy Theorist Cenk Uygur blames Christianity for the Holocaust [VIDEO]

    Cenk Uygur, Alt-Left co-founder of the radical, and often conspiracy-driven, show Young Turks appeared on a “counter-extremism” panel this week where he blamed Christianity for the Holocaust.

    The outrageous anti-Christian comments were made while Cenk Uygur was supposedly the “moderator” of the panel, part of Web Summit, a tech conference in Europe. Other members of the panel included American Islamic Forum for Democracy’s M Zuhdi Jasser, The Khalifa Ihler Institute’s Bjorn Ihler, Institute for Strategic Dialogue Sasha Havlicek.

    More via Conservative Review:

    Dr. Jasser, a Muslim, stressed the need for a global Islamic reformation, one that preaches tolerance and a more secular way of life. He urged co-panelists not to coddle Muslims and to recognize the threat posed by global jihadist groups motivated by political Islam.

    Seemingly offended by Jasser’s remarks, Uygur fired back, defending Islam as a whole and targeting Christianity.

    “People make it seem like Christianity is hunky dory and wonderful reformation,” Uygur started. “The Holocaust was what, 70 years ago? It seems like Christianity was monstrous just 70 years ago, way worse than Islam has ever been, than any religion has ever been.”

    He wasn’t done, blaming Christianity for “killing thirteen million people.”

    Of course, Uygur didn’t mention that Hitler came to despise Christianity in favor of his eugenicist worldview. Historians have documented that Hitler viewed both Catholics and Protestants with disdain and sought to replace Christianity with what some refer to as the “Reich Church.”

    The Holocaust was not executed in the name of Christianity. It was carried out by adherents to the very anti-Christian Nazi ideology.

    [video and more]
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/11/alt-left-conspiracy-theorist-cenk-uygur-blames-christianity-holocaust-video/

  150. Mark A

    OneWorldGovernment
    #2548507, posted on November 10, 2017 at 5:15 am

    David
    #2548505, posted on November 10, 2017 at 4:54 am

    Monty,

    Are you 2 a tag team?

    drip, drip, drip.

    Isn’t if hilarious, that by paying a little attention how easy it is to pick the same punters posting under different monikers?

  151. srr

    🙂 –

    OneWorldGovernment
    #2548477, posted on November 10, 2017 at 3:31 am

    Someone posted up thread the start of this post at American Thinker that sets out the marxist control of UNESCO and the UN in general.

    UNESCO has a new communist head, same as the old communist head

    West Australian Senator Dean Smith proudly says he has legislation already written and will introduce it next week when the SSM vote results in a YES vote and he anticipates that no one will oppose it from either side.

    I didn’t think that an Australian Senator could introduce legislation and if he does and the Australian Parliament accepts that then there are NO laws in Australia and the revolution will commence.

    I want to see some parliamentarians introduce legislation to withdraw Australia from the UN and all f*cking legislation we have adopted from the UN.

    What the upthread poster did not show was the complete marxist takeover of the UN in general.

    What I find funny is that calling out the UN (and EU), for what it is, is one of the (rather telling 😉 ), excuses that Pro-UN narrative CON-Trollers use to brand and smear people as ‘conspiracy nutters’.

    It’s funny because Trump and The Trumpians get it, and it’s a huge part of why he is genuinely loved around the world, by all sides; all around the world, all sides have been hobbled, hamstrung and enslaved by UN (& EU), pushed Regulations/Dictates.

    It’s funny because while the MSM is tangling itself in many nooses trying to credit Obama for the boom in the American economy since the day Trump was elected, it was the confidence he spread by his promise (signed off on very early), to get rid of those insane UN/Greenie Dictates (that stop the advancement of civilisation), that business joyfully responded to.

    God I love Trump, and all the quietly, loyally beavering away railwaymen of The Trump Train. 🙂

  152. Tintarella di Luna

    The debacle on eligibility to NOMINATE for election to federal parliament is the responsibility of all the parliaments since 1992, Labor and Liberal had a chance, nay a duty, to fix it and they didn’t. The High Court cases of 1992 involved Labor’s Bill Kardamitsis and the Liberals’ John Delacretaz both of whom were disqualified for their citizenship problems.

    As recently as 2006 there was the opportunity to make this right by Electoral and Referendum Amendment (Electoral Integrity and other Measures) Act 2006 a piece of legislation to amend the law relating to elections and referendums, and for related purposes — section 44 of the Constitution is not even mentioned. There should have been a requirement for nominees to lodge a stat dec with their nomination form; a stat dec about their reasonable attempts to renounce any citizenship by descent or otherwise legislated by other sovereign nations and to put the onus on the Australian Electoral Commission to oversee this, though with the AEC record that might be a bridge too far.

  153. srr

    BorisG
    #2548466, posted on November 10, 2017 at 2:31 am

    Tell me which country in South America is succeeding.

    Brazil is experiencing some trouble at the moment but over a long period has been impressive.

    and Uruguay above all.

    Yeah, it’s a stand out, for a number of reasons, so it’s not surprising you also find this there –

    https://www.trump.com/real-estate-portfolio/uruguay/trump-tower-punta-del-este/

  154. srr

    Thomas Paine‏ @Thomas1774Paine 39m39 minutes ago

    BREAKING** ONE NIGHT STAND- Stripper Rolls Drunken FBI Counter-Terror Chief; Steals Gun, $6K Rolex, and More

    Things got a little crazy in room 502 at the Westin. And how does a FBI agent afford a $6,000 Rolex watch?

    An FBI counterterrorism supervisor is under internal investigation after a woman stole his gun following a night of heavy drinking in a North Carolina hotel, according to documents and government officials.

    In July, Robert Manson, a unit chief in the F.B.I.’s international terrorism section, had his Glock .40-caliber handgun, a $6,000 Rolex watch and $60 in cash stolen from his room at the Westin hotel in Charlotte, N.C., according to a police report.

    The episode is an embarrassing mishap for the F.B.I. As a unit chief assigned to the bureau’s headquarters, Mr. Manson oversees all terrorism investigations in the Midwest and the Carolinas. An F.B.I. spokesman, Michael P. Kortan, said the incident was the subject of an internal investigation and declined to give additional comment.

    Mr. Manson and other senior agents were in Charlotte for training, according to a law enforcement official familiar with the episode. The agents later told the police that they had been drinking with women who said they were exotic dancers, according to a second person who was briefed on the investigation but, like the first, was not authorized to discuss it publicly.

    The gun was identified in the police report as a Glock 27, a compact model that is easy to conceal. Federal law allows agents to carry concealed weapons while off duty, but not while they are intoxicated. It is unclear where Mr. Manson kept the gun. F.B.I. rules prohibit agents from leaving their guns in unsecure places. Every room in the Westin is equipped with a safe.

    More at –
    http://truepundit.com/one-night-stand-stripper-rolls-drunken-fbi-counter-terror-chief-steals-gun-6k-rolex-and-more/

  155. srr

    😆 …

    Thomas Paine‏ @Thomas1774Paine 28m28 minutes ago

    Anytime you can work Stripper, FBI, Rolex and Drunken into a headline, it’s a Journalistic coup.

    … 😆

  156. Gab

    Thanks for all your comments, Dr BG. You continue to make my case for me. Ta.

  157. feelthebern

    By the way, I mainly rely upon The CIA World Factbook for my assessments of a foreign country.

    One World, c’mon man.
    You’re better than that.

  158. Herodotus

    Down the memory hole: how Obama stole the 2008 nomination.

    American Thinker

  159. feelthebern

    9th Nov 2016, S&P200 had an intra day low of 5052.1.
    9th Nov 2017, S&P200 had an intra day high of 6052.1.
    1000.0 points even.

    Let us celebrate with the singing of songs.

  160. Baldrick

    Nope, TheirABC can’t find one single thing of praise in Trump’s trip to Asia:

    Donald Trump’s first trip to Asia as President has made for a strange spectacle.
    In Seoul, Trump praised South Korea’s “ancient modern wonders”, and in Tokyo, during a round of golf with Mr Trump, Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe fell into a bunker.
    The stakes are high, but the expectations are low. Mr Trump’s gaffes and lack of interest in policy have been normalised, so if he gets through the trip without causing a major diplomatic incident, it will look like a success.
    Mr Trump comes into the meeting with Xi in a shaky position. After 10 months in office he has no major legislative achievements. His approval rating is 38 per cent. The investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election casts a dark shadow over his presidency.
    And our ally, the US, is led by an unreliable and weak leader. Accounts of inevitable American decline are often exaggerated, but the country faces serious problems. Its politics are bordering on dysfunctional.

  161. OldOzzie

    MARK LATHAM CHECKS THE MULTICULTURALISM OF FAIRFIELD

    “The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.”

    Winston Churchill

  162. Herodotus

    It doesn’t seem to matter how many times a dash of cold scientific water hits the face of climate change religion boosters. The religion rolls on. Roger Taylor has another tilt at those junketeers as they gather for one more conference in Europe. Like our own Bruce of Newcastle, he forensically slices and dices all the memes, including a detailed takedown of ocean acidification.
    via American Thinker

  163. John Constantine

    The crushing power of the State to descend upon all those that disrespect shanghai sam.

    Rehabilitated and untouchable.

    A mere shire councilor from a deplorable settler background that openly took money from Chinese interests in return for being their Maaaate would be crushed and disposed of, never to sweep back after a couple months of merely working behind the scenes like shanghai sam has.

    Different when the elites do it.

    To me, making a decision to lead your political life funded by the Chinese communist party to progress the deindustrialisation of Australia and to export the accumulated wealth of generations of settler Australians to the people makes you unfit to be in the Australian parliment.

    Selling out Australia as a lifestyle choice and crushing all those that object.

    Nice work if you can get the chinese to pay for it.

    Comrades.

    [ when the cat gets shut down, it will be on behalf of operatives like shanghai sam, so if we could make a point of slamming the scumbag because of the things he did that made the labor party itself send him to the naughty corner, not his victim politics identity, it could buy the cat another few months online.]

  164. Shy Ted

    Excellent TV alert. Boxtrolls at 1642 on 76 this arvo. Little bit slow to start but truly wonderful characters if you persist. Claymation I think and you need to watch right through the credits to see the painstaking work involved.

  165. Stimpson J. Cat

    JC is actually on the right track.

    Don’t encourage him.
    He’s backsliding into his old irascible ways.
    And he was doing so well.

    😁

  166. C.L.

    Democrat comedian Louis C.K. masturbated in front of every female comic he cornered alone.

    … he has so few equals in comedy. In the years since the incidents the women describe, he has sold out Madison Square Garden eight times, created an Emmy-winning TV series, and accumulated the clout of a tastemaker and auteur, with the help of a manager who represents some of the biggest names in comedy. And Louis C.K. built a reputation as the unlikely conscience of the comedy scene, by making audiences laugh about hypocrisy — especially male hypocrisy.

    New York Times.

    Politico, 2012: Louis C.K.: ‘I love Barack Obama’:

    “I really love Barack Obama,” said C.K., who has become more of a household name lately thanks to his FX show, “Louie…”

    Although hardly a political comic at heart, C.K. has found himself embroiled in the world of political punditry over the past few years. He was picked to headline the annual Radio & Television Correspondents’ Dinner in June but dropped out after coming under scrutiny for some of his more controversial comedy about Sarah Palin. He also once called President George W. Bush a “ f**king criminal” (among other things).

  167. W Hogg

    classical_hero
    #2548319, posted on November 9, 2017 at 11:46 pm
    [email protected]@te is about the Podesta emails. The fact that so many believe it’s about a pizza store, which is suspicious and creepy, have been deluded by the media.

    I could MAYBE believe that a bunch of shops in DC culturally appropriating certain circular Italian meals MIGHT put obviously [email protected] logos all over their shops to bait conspiracy theorists. I mean sure, it might risk
    – FBI investigation
    – revulsion of their informed clients
    – violence from people seeking to protect children
    – drawing in the wrong clientele
    – bankruptcy

    but hey, it would be funny and it might help Illary to have her accused of being an enabler.

    Seems a stretch that Podesta would them think “hey, let’s all send each other emails that make no sense EXCEPT in this context, as if I’m ever hacked by Da Rushnz it will make the whole scam MUCH more effective.

  168. cohenite

    Thanks Tom for the cartoon links.

  169. srr

    Herodotus
    #2548526, posted on November 10, 2017 at 6:54 am

    Down the memory hole: how Obama stole the 2008 nomination.

    American Thinker

    Thanks for this. It’s yet another reminder of the shaking, sifting and sorting going on.

    All those crimes were reported as they rolled on, one after another, and the result – very many more made the classic bad choice – you can’t beat ’em so join ’em – and so, caused the swamp to fill with vile, slimy monsters to over capacity, with the current situation of the patient and faithful watching them all eat each other – no blood on our heads, we did witness and warn.

  170. John Constantine

    https://worldview.stratfor.com/article/mexicos-cartels-find-another-game-changer-fentanyl#/

    China provides the basic ingredients, the Mexican cartels cook it up and use their mules to cross the unwalled border.

    Profit for everybody except the American taxpayer and victims of robberies.

    If Trump can wall off the cartels, the boom for the American taxpayer will be huge.

    Tax the cartel customers in Hollywood, drug test every entertainment figure involved in getting government incentives and tax breaks as part of the funding package and fund the wall with the money.

    Tell China that exporting drugs to America is like profiting from exporting Chinese machetes to Rwanda for the genocide, quick profits have consequences.

  171. cohenite

    Now where are JC and his little mate Fisky?

  172. Now where are JC and his little mate Fisky?

    Please no, Cohenite.
    I was enjoying the peace and tranquility.

  173. feelthebern

    I’ve just been told that Alan Jones announced John Alexander’s resignation later today.

    I believe that would be, game, set, match.

    Boom, tsch.

  174. notafan

    One thing I’ve noticed about the 🐈 is how so many commenters are ardent supporters of the EU and the UN.

    Oh hang on.

    Narrative fail, again.

  175. I’ve just been told that Alan Jones announced
    John Alexander’s resignation later today.

    So?
    It’s not as though there will be any repercussions or disturbance to “business as usual” for the National Socialist Coalition now running the country.

  176. notafan

    Two points about this article

    One the forgiveness is predicated on the death being the will of allah (and the driver being a Muslims) and two the threats clearly coming from the muslim ‘community’ against the school.

    That is some serious blame shifting, I suppose in a muslim versus kafir world it’s always the kafir’s fault no matter what convoluted path you need to take to get there.


    Incredible act of forgiveness from family of boy killed when car crashed into Sydney school

  177. srr

    OneWorldGovernment
    #2548406, posted on November 10, 2017 at 12:57 am

    Talking about pizza.

    Curious story at https://www.lizcrokin.com/ with a post that looks something like this,

    Trump Takes Down Over Two Dozen Elite *3d*files Including Celebrities & Politicians

    The only thing I find curious is why there are still so many keen to be seen attacking anyone reporting on International Child Sex Trading Rings, especially considering how many people were attacked for reporting on those who turned out to be proven child trading, raping and murdering monsters.

    But the world finally starting to come to terms with the fact of how very many politicians and celebrities are actively involved in those evil circles is just the first crack in the dam; it’s when all those doctors, other medical professionals, law enforcement and legal eagles (who patch up, stitch up, drug up and cover up the evidence those children live with and that kills them), start featuring in lists of the convicted, that their smoke blowers will look for mountains to fall on them …

  178. struth

    .

    Imagine living as the oppressed other half of the population. Ask yourself what makes you superior to women.

    No, you ask your free self why women are oppressed in Muslim countries.

    Why don’t they just refuse to play along?

    Ask yourself, if you hate the white western man so much, who will replace him?

    But the very key question is why don’t they just refuse to wear the sack?

  179. cohenite

    memoryvault

    #2548543, posted on November 10, 2017 at 7:47 am

    Now where are JC and his little mate Fisky?

    Please no, Cohenite.

    JC is a fit subject for discussion. I’ve come across a lot of hostility over the years from alarmists at such sites as Tim Lamberts, the Conversation, Real Climate etc where really well educated people degenerated into banshees and ID driven ratbags; blogging is liberating and revealing, as it should be and what is revealed about the characters of bloggers is fascinating and gives insight into how weird, inexplicable social processes like alarmism, renewable mania, TDS, leftism generally can occur.

    JC was an alarmist when I first appeared here and he seemed to change his opinion; he’s always been pro-islam, or at least giving them the benefit of the doubt, so to that extent his views are a mixed batch. But I must say while alarmists and lefties generally simply want to win and be superior JC’s inclinations in this way is quite exceptional, as is his determination to set the tone and standard for this blog. As I say what he is revealing about his character is fascinating. That’s all I wanted to say and I appreciate he thrives on the attention so I’ll leave it at that.

  180. the threats clearly coming from the muslim ‘community’ against the school.

    Why, or how, could anybody blame the school? It is interesting to note that the name, photo and details of the other boy killed, have all been suppressed by his family. If I were to go looking for the source of anger and threatened retaliation, that is where I would start.

  181. JC is a fit subject for discussion.

    Sorry Cohenite, my post was ambiguous.
    I didn’t mean you shouldn’t engage him.
    I was merely lamenting you wishing him upon us so early in the day.

  182. Boambee John

    calli

    Toxic spill in aisle five please.

  183. Delta A

    A thought-provoking letter in The $Oz:

    Plea from Oregon

    I am a doctor in Oregon, one of the few jurisdictions where assisted suicide is legal. I was alarmed to see that Victoria may be following our path. In 2000, I had a cancer patient named Jeanette Hall who was adamant she would use Oregon’s law. Without treatment, she had a prognosis of six months to a year to live, rendering her “eligible”.

    I convinced her to be treated instead. Seventeen years later, she is thrilled to be alive. With the legalisation of assisted suicide, Oregon’s health plan has been empowered to offer patients suicide in lieu of treatments. Don’t let legal assisted suicide come to Victoria.

    Kenneth Stevens, Sherwood, Oregon, USA

  184. Delta A

    On the subject of euthanasia, an alarming article from The $Oz:

    Public health doctors in Victoria feel unable to speak out against the state’s euthanasia laws because they are “not allowed” to criticise the government’s policy, the director of a Sydney palliative care unit says.

    The director of palliative care at St Vincent’s Hospital, professor Richard Chye, said that while on a visit to Melbourne he had just spoken to public-hospital doctors who told him they were “not allowed” to speak out against Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews’s proposed laws.

    To rtwt, search: Doctors gagged on euthanasia bill: health boss

  185. srr

    notafan
    #2548545, posted on November 10, 2017 at 7:51 am
    One thing I’ve noticed about the 🐈 is how so many commenters are ardent supporters of the EU and the UN.

    Oh hang on.

    Narrative fail, again.

    What a stupidly insulting coward you are.

    Knowing that I’m the only one who will dare to remind you how often your fellow False narrative CON-Troll trolls called any outing of the evils of the UN & EU, ‘loopy conspiracy theory stuff‘, you think you’re safe to keep pushing your bullshit.

    We are in the land of PRO-UN/Anti-Semite Pro-Turnbull, Dastyari, Textor, de Crespigny et-fucking-al, where only so much detail can be vigorously debated, and many details never mentioned at all; you know, those killer details that would slay the beast of lies that lead to death.

    But by all means, please, do keep up your cherished role of advocating for the devil and calling it the Christian Catholic thing to do 🙄

  186. Mark A

    struth
    #2548552, posted on November 10, 2017 at 8:04 am

    No, you ask your free self why women are oppressed in Muslim countries.
    Why don’t they just refuse to play along?
    Ask yourself, if you hate the white western man so much, who will replace him?
    But the very key question is why don’t they just refuse to wear the sack?

    Regarding the muslim women, you would find that in many cases, most of them in fact, they are more rigid in sticking to muslim rules and ‘religion’ than their men. In fact they can be more vicious in defending the faith.

  187. Mike of Marion

    10 November 2017. Happy 89th Birthday Maestro Ennio Morricone.

    One of the great composers.

  188. Geriatric Mayfly

    Sad as it all was, I notice that the tot buried yesterday was named Jihad.

  189. struth

    Public health doctors in Victoria feel unable to speak out against the state’s euthanasia laws because they are “not allowed” to criticise the government’s policy, the director of a Sydney palliative care unit says.

    The director of palliative care at St Vincent’s Hospital, professor Richard Chye, said that while on a visit to Melbourne he had just spoken to public-hospital doctors who told him they were “not allowed” to speak out against Victorian Premier Daniel Andrews’s proposed laws.

    Not allowed?

    FMD.

    They want to get on to that.
    The Nurses seem to be able to jump up and down and riot in the streets about anything.

    Yes, it’s interesting to note, as I said many years ago.
    There is no degree/ doctorate or even a certificate iv in integrity.

  190. struth

    Regarding the muslim women, you would find that in many cases, most of them in fact, they are more rigid in sticking to muslim rules and ‘religion’ than their men. In fact they can be more vicious in defending the faith.

    I totally agree.
    Born out of fear, as is the case for the entire religion.

    But some of it, even in those instances are born out of a desire to not rock the boat, and make the situation worse, as is often the case under tyranny.
    Yet the “choice” is not there anyway.
    Why?

  191. Geriatric Mayfly

    Did I muck up the time difference? The screaming at the sky may have passed me by. And those bespoke ear plugs, which I had at the ready, will have to go back into their designer case.

  192. srr

    Thomas Wictor‏ @ThomasWictor4m4 minutes ago

    (23) Of course nobody is talking, but it’s clear that strategic special forces can see INSIDE buildings.

    They’d use some form of synthetic-aperture radar (SAR), with much higher resolution than this.

    https://twitter.com/ThomasWictor/status/928738140541542405

  193. calli

    “We both believe, and disbelieve a hundred times an hour, which keeps believing nimble.” ― Emily Dickinson.

  194. H B Bear

    I’ve just been told that Alan Jones announced John Alexander’s resignation later today.
    I believe that would be, game, set, match.

    Alexander’s parliamentary career almost mirrors his tennis one. Only claim to fame was turfing another ALPBC staff co-op member married to the mob.

    Time for Mr Savva to fire up that election winning machine that is the Turnbull Coalition Team again.

  195. cohenite

    I was merely lamenting you wishing him upon us so early in the day.

    Lamentation is an appropriate term, I guess although I think I’ll try for wry amusement..

  196. Geriatric Mayfly

    ‘Refugee tried to strangle medic’
    A Manus Island refugee was arrested for allegedly trying to strangle a female doctor with a plastic bag.
    The Oz.
    No Valium on ready supply, and this is what you get.

  197. John Constantine

    Jacindamani Stalinises the prayer used to open the New Zealand parliament.

    Comrades.

    Bait and switch gets them every time.

  198. Rabz

    Tom – that Garrison is bloody hilarious. Including that bow tie wearing clown Beck was a nice touch.

  199. In an early draft of its next strategic plan, the Department of Health and Human Services has described its mission as “serving and protecting Americans at every stage of life, beginning at conception” [emphasis added]. In an op-ed in the Los Angeles Times, Dr. Richard Paulson—a professor of obstetrics and gynecology and an infertility specialist—vehemently objects to HHS’s affirmation that life begins at conception. Paulson claims that this affirmation is based on religion rather than science, and that HHS should remove it from the report, because the agency’s endorsement of a religious view of human life violates the constitutional separation of church and state.

    So, how does he begin this ‘argument’, by claiming the following:

    First, Paulson claims that no new life is formed at fertilization because the egg and the sperm were already alive: “The human egg is a single living cell and it becomes a one-cell embryo if it successfully combines with a live sperm. No new life is formed — the egg and the sperm were already alive — and fertilization is not instantaneous.”

    The argument gets even worse. Remember, this man is a doctor which he is wont to remind you of too!
    RTWT.

  200. Tom

    An excellent read (H/T Herodotus) on the corruption and Chicago gangland tactics Obama used to steal the 2008 DNC nomination:

    Clinton trounced Obama by half a million Democrat votes in the 2008 Democrat primaries. She bettered him among women, seniors, Latinos, the working class, those earning less than $50,000 and first-time voters. Clinton won the primaries where it is harder to cheat; Obama’s delegate count was based on his fraudulent caucus wins. Polls showed Clinton beating McCain and Obama losing. Rasmussen showed Clinton was more competitive than Obama by 16 points. Yet 100% of the superdelegates threw the nomination to the weaker, less popular candidate.

    RTWT.

  201. calli

    Lol. KoiGate debunked!

    The MSM really jumped the carp on that one.

  202. Rabz

    Labor’s Bill Kardamitsis and the Liberals’ John Delacretaz

    Bloody hell, Tints – until the qualifiers above, I thought you’d been previously referring to characters in a Shakespearean play.

  203. Rabz

    The MSM really humped the carp on that one.

    Fixed. Love is love, after all.

  204. Rabz

    One of humanity’s most inspirational figures*.

    *Statement may contain elements of truthiness.

  205. lotocoti

    I thought you’d been previously referring to characters in a Shakespearean play.

    Kardamitsis and Delacretaz Are Dead?

  206. notafan

    Are you as dumb as a box of rocks srr?

    Nobody here supports the UN or the EU, except maybe Monty.

    I’m at a loss as to why you think you need to constantly castigate nameless people here at the 🐈.

    And don’t now pretend you are talking about ‘somewhere else’

    You’re loopier than those anti Trumpers screaming from coast to coast.

    ‘I’m the only one’

    You certainly are.

    As for cowardice, you’re making rambling idiotic rants on a blog using a three letter Nom de plume and that makes you a hero?

    Then the hero bar is set so low these days.

    You and your secret secret secrets. You’ve been oh so subtlely hinting about those for years.

    What a bore you really are.

  207. One of humanity’s most inspirational figures*.

    Now I’m depressed again.
    And I haven’t even had breakfast yet.

  208. Diogenes

    You openly claimed to have been training “recruits” in how to use an AK47! Who the hell were these “recruits”? Was it the UNITA mob?

    Fisky,
    I have done the same in the mid 80s. I have never set foot in , or even flown over the whole continent of Africa.
    Location : Infantry Centre Singleton.
    Recruits : from 1/19, 3 & 4 Royal NSW Regts
    Occasion : IET Course

    Prior to this, in 1984, I had been taught the AK47 & PKM Machine gun on my Regimental Officers Basic Course, also at InfCentre Singleton.

    Officers & SNCOs of all Bns were instructors on several promotion courses for 5 Brigade with our BnCdr being overall ‘Chief Instructor’, and I was CI of the IET course. All courses and instructors had the opportunity to shoot the AK47s. These were not a formal part of the training we had to offer, but the Boss accepted the offer as it would be of interest, and there were several 1000 rounds of ammo about to expire – easier to fire it than dispose of them.

  209. Snoopy

    You and your secret secret secrets. You’ve been oh so subtlely hinting about those for years.

    Srr can field strip and reassemble an AK 47?

  210. srr

    … ohh, seems it’s already starting …

    Thomas Paine

    The last story we did on Crony Obama Judge really took off and went somewhat viral. Seemed to strike a nerve.
    ..
    PAYBACK: Crony Obama Judge Gets Booted from Fusion GPS Case After True Pundit Exposed Blatant Conflicts of Interest

    For several weeks True Pundit has hammered U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan including her blatant conflicts of interest in the Fusion GPS case.

    On Thursday the United States District Court for the District of Columbia re-assigned the Fusion GPS bank record case to a new federal judge, removing Chutkan from making any additional decisions on the case. This is highly unusual move but in this case quite necessary.

    Chutkan was presiding over a case that could implicate Barack Obama. She donated campaign cash to Obama. After his election, he appointed both her and her husband as judges. Other Chutkan family members also contributed to Obama’s political coffers.

    The mere fact that Fusion GPS’ bank records could implicate Hillary Clinton and her former boss Obama is reason enough to believe Chutkan would opt on the side of The Swamp, in an effort to further protect Obama and his cartel which at this point may or may not include the federal judge who should have recused herself from the case.

    Just days ago the Obama crony helped Fusion GPS seal their financial records to keep its clients secret, after Congress subpoenaed the financial records.

    Chutkan has a history of not recusing herself from cases with a direct and personal conflict so why would she stop now. She presided over a Homeland Security case without notifying the court or plaintiff’s attorneys she had a close family relative who works for DHS.

    Judges may not preside over cases in which they have a direct personal bias or financial interest concerning a party to the case, according to federal law.

    But Chutkan is the D.C. District Court’s poster girl for conflicts.

    No one else in the media seemed to care very much about that fact, which is telling in itself.

    One of the True Pundit stories — published Oct. 29th entitled CRONY: Obama-Appointed Judge Seals Fusion GPS Bank Records; Ruling Insulates Obama, Clinton, FBI — went viral.

    So True Pundit is taking partial credit here for the unorthodox and court-mandated recusal. Simply because this story was ignored by the media.

    The Fusion GPS case has been re-assigned to Richard J. Leon, a Senior District Judge for the District of Columbia. Leon was not appointed by Obama.

    Chutkan is presiding also over the Imran Awan and Hina Alvi bank fraud case in D.C. Chutkan made headlines when it was reported she was appointed to the federal bench by Obama after she kicked thousands in campaign donations to his presidential campaign.

    Obama also appointed Chutkan’s husband, Peter Krauthamer, a judge to the bench in the District of Columbia Superior Court in 2011.

    Chutkan was born in Jamaica. She lived in Jamaica, the Bahamas, France and Spain before coming to the United States, federal law enforcement sources said.

    Chutkan’s former law firm, where she worked until her appointment to the federal bench in 2014, currently represents Huma Abedin, the wife of disgraced former Congressman Anthony Weiner. The firm also is stacked with Democratic lawyers who worked for Hillary Clinton, John Podesta, and Barack Obama’s White House, just to name a few D.C. insiders.

    Much more at –
    http://truepundit.com/payback-crony-obama-judge-gets-booted-from-fusion-gps-case-after-true-pundit-exposed-blatant-conflicts-of-interest/
    __________

    So where are all those arrogant arses and holier-than-thou-cows who love to cackle “Pizza!” at good people, gonna run to when they no longer have fellow advocates for the devil ruing for them that good is evil and evil is good …

  211. notafan

    MV both boys names were suppressed but Jihad darwiche’s released when he was buried.

    This had nothing to do with the other boy whose name is Andrew.

    One Muslims has started a petition to ban all staff vehicles from school grounds, in any school in Australia ever.

    I’m telling you, the muslim mind works in not very mysterious ways.

    If there wasn’t the staff carpark that was banned for public use then the muslima would never ever try to drive in there to drop her her kid off and therefore she wouldn’t have tried to pick up a water bottle and slammed on the accelerator and crash through into the classroom which should have been made of brick but was only weatherboard because it was mostly a muslim school and then those children would ever been killed therefore it’s the school’s/kafir fault.

  212. Woolfe

    We used to play with AK’s that the original owners did not need any more. Special branch then used to confiscate them and any other loot. I still have a SK bayonet and a gook water bottle.

  213. Snoopy

    One Muslims has started a petition to ban all staff vehicles from school grounds, in any school in Australia ever.

    As powerful as the Muslim minority is they’re no match for the teachers’ unions.

    🙂

  214. notafan

    Snoopy see 8.24.

    It’s secret knowledge, if only he was free to speak.

    He’s just bursting with it, has been for years, but it’s too something.

    There used to be hints about the global elite but after mockage when he linked that Fiona Barnett site and supported the veracity of Anne link about the baby sacrificing Dutch man he’s realised that the cat may not be ready for the Truthing.

    Best guess

    Either that or https://goo.gl/images/U5wQoE it really is

  215. Srr can field strip and reassemble an AK 47?

    Once a young man has learn how to get a bra hook undone with one hand, all things become possible.

  216. Dr Faustus

    Turnbull is valiantly trying to tip Labor’s Justine Keay out of the parliamentary basket to counterbalance John Alexander’s likely departure.

    Mr Turnbull on Thursday threatened to break with longstanding precedent and use the government’s slim majority to refer any Labor MPs under a citizenship cloud to the High Court.

    Keay, in her own defence, unwittingly highlights the deliberate game-playing with the Constitution, attempting to make sure she kept her fall-back second citizenship up her sleeve as long as possible:

    “I delayed it – it’s one of those things with the citizenship I knew I could never get it back,” she said.

    “If I don’t get elected I can’t get my citizenship back and for me, it was a very personal thing.

    “I try not to be upset about it but – it was that last tangible connection with my dad.”

    So, guilty knowledge of a failed risk management strategy along the road to the Trough.

  217. Anthony

    I hear Barry Obama is AKA the bloke on the Clapham omnibus. Could only happen in Chicago.

  218. Dr Faustus

    Once a young man has learn how to get a bra hook undone with one hand, all things become possible.

    A vital life skill, right there.
    Amazingly, not on the penis tucking/breast binding syllabus.

  219. A vital life skill, right there.

    I have always maintained that being able to undo a bra hook, left handed, in the dark, should be a mandatory part of the driving license test for all young men.

  220. OldOzzie

    Andrew Bolt, Herald Sun
    33 minutes ago
    Subscriber only

    Labor leader Bill Shorten’s letter yesterday to the Prime Minister reveals an explosive detail from their conversation: that Malcolm Turnbull suspects votes of Parliament may not be lawful, with all the dual citizens still there.

    So how can the Governor-General assent to any laws passed by such a legally suspect body?

    Shorten’s letter responds to Turnbull’s so-called fix to this citizenship crisis, explained during their two-hour meeting on Wednesday.

    Pay particularly attention to this line:

    I am not in a position to agree to your proposition that only non-controversial legislation will be considered for the remainder of the year.

    That was the Prime Minister’s proposition? Don’t have this parliament pass any controversial legislation for the moment?

    That tells you the Prime Minister himself has no confidence in the legal standing of this parliament. Has no confidence that its decisions won’t be challenged.

    In which case why is it sitting at all? Where is the Governor-General to say to the Prime Minister, listen, if you think this parliament can’t be trusted to be legal, why should I? How can I give my assent to any decision passed by such a compromised body – or at least any contested decision?

  221. calli

    From nota’s SMH link:

    But Mr Rashid said the Australian-funded support programs never provided him with advice on how to achieve PNG citizenship nor any financial assistance to meet the $4000 application fee.

    Like Mrs Speedy in the out of bounds carpark, it’s always someone else’s fault.

  222. H B Bear

    Let’s face it, Peanut Head is the defacto PM of Australia at this time.

  223. But you’ve reminded me of this limerick;
    There was an old man from Belgrave
    who kept a dead whore in a cave.
    He said “I admit i’m a bit of a shit”
    “but think of the money I save”

    Yikes with a capital Y!

  224. C.L.

    A Manus Island refugee was arrested for allegedly trying to strangle a female doctor with a plastic bag.

    I can already hear the left’s response: we must ban plastic bags.

  225. candy

    Let’s face it, Peanut Head is the defacto PM of Australia at this time.

    It seems he has a better grasp on what could become a very serious situation than Malcolm Turnbull or the GG has, with respect to legislation being passed unlawfully, eg, what if Trump asked for more troops if ISIS situation escalated suddenly.

  226. srr

    Bill Warner, PhD: Sacred Hate Speech
    Political Islam
    Nov 9, 2017

    Many Kafirs (non-Muslims) are quick to condemn hate speech. But what if those “haters” are sacred figures?

    There’s a lot of talk about hate speech these days. YouTube, Facebook, and others are going to eliminate hate speech. Well I wish them luck with that, but I’m going be talking about some hate I bet they’re not able to eliminate: the hate that is found within the doctrine of Islam for the unbeliever.

    For instance, Quran 98:6. The unbelievers amongst the Christians, J#ws, and pagans will be in the fire of Hell. These are the worst of creatures. Who’s of the worst of creatures? People such as myself. Now, I don’t know, but when I’m called the worst of creatures, does this qualify for hate speech? Then we have a piece of hate speech that’s repeated five times a day by every good Muslim. The first sura of, or chapter of, the Quran has seven verses, and Muslims repeat these every time they pray. The seventh verse says, not those who anger Allah nor those who go astray. Who are these people who angers Allah? The J#ws. Who goes astray? The Christians. So constant prayer by Muslims condemns the Christians and the J#ws.

    Now then, let’s talk a little bit more about hate, sacred hate. Quran 48:29. Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, and those with him are the severe against the Kafirs and merciful amongst themselves. Notice that Muslims are to be severe amongst people such as myself but merciful unto themselves. This is sacred hate and sacred love. It has a technical name and is part of the ethical system of Islam. Al-Walaa wal-Baraa, hating what Allah hates, Kafirs, loving who Allah loves, Muslims.

    Is this hate speech? Quran 8:55. Surely the vilest of animals in Allah’s sight are the Kafirs. The vilest of animals. Other translations of this verse are lowest of animals. So, I’m the lowest of animals according to Allah. Hate speech? I don’t know; might be… read more at http://www.politicalislam.com

  227. C.L.

    Does anyone believe the father of Jihad would have forgiven the driver if she was Betty Jones, Anglophone mum of three?

  228. Snoopy

    But Mr Rashid said the Australian-funded support programs never provided him with advice on how to achieve PNG citizenship nor any financial assistance to meet the $4000 application fee.

    Like Mrs Speedy in the out of bounds carpark, it’s always someone else’s fault.

    In this case I think it would be money well spent. The government is prepared to give ‘reffos’ a cash sling and fly them back home at taxpayers’ expense. Why not assist this chap?

  229. Roger

    But Mr Rashid said the Australian-funded support programs never provided him with advice on how to achieve PNG citizenship nor any financial assistance to meet the $4000 application fee.

    I think he has a point. We wasted how many millions of dollars to settle…what, two? refugees in Cambodia.

    If Immigration had been more diligent and attentive to individual cases this fellow’s case could have been finalised two years ago with some modest assistance. And with positive PR too. It seems to be emblematic of how Dutton has failed in his portfolio.

  230. Let’s face it, Peanut Head Martin Parkinson is the defacto PM of Australia at this and has been for some time.

    FIFY

  231. C.L.

    From the disgusting woman who gave a standing ovation to Roman Polanski:

    Meryl Streep says the Hollywood sex abuse scandal is something she constantly discusses with her daughters, but that it is “absolutely thrilling” to think of the changes this moment may inspire.

    Streep appears on the cover of US Vogue’s December issue, and spoke to editor-in-chief Anna Wintour about the attention on the film industry following a number of allegations lodged against movie producer Harvey Weinstein.

    Asked by Wintour what she talks to her daughters about at the dining table, Streep said: “Harvey Weinstein, it’s all we talk about. It’s horrible”.

    “We want them to be free, we want them to be proud, we want them to be female, but you can’t … we put them in danger by not informing them about the male gaze and how it works on young girls.”

    The Oscar-winning actress, 68, told Wintour that she thinks “this moment is absolutely thrilling”.

    “This is a door that will not be closed, we’ve got a foot in there now, and it will be very different for people to conduct their lives the way they have in the past.

    “‘Oh, that’s just locker-room talk. Oh, that’s just the way men are.’ No, it’s not.”

    Note the drive-by reference to Trump; and the absence of any reference to her dear friend, Polanski, the child rapist.

  232. Roger

    If Maladroit has advice this parliament’s legislation could be tainted with illegality he really has no option but to go to the G-G and request that he prorogue the parliament until the question is resolved.

    Instead he’ll dissemble and dither.

    What a shambles.

  233. candy

    Does anyone believe the father of Jihad would have forgiven the driver if she was Betty Jones, Anglophone mum of three?

    Probably not. In a sense this is better for everyone in a stupid macabre way. If the driver was a white non-Muslim, the media going after them and their family, retaliation, social media berserk with theories, it would be horrendous. We are spared that.
    (not in any way to downplay the tragedy of the deaths of those young lads)

  234. calli

    I guess I’m just weary of Australian taxpayers being viewed as an endless source of go-away money.

    Also, why did the “support service” not provide him with advice. What are we paying them for?

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