Open Forum: November 11, 2017

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  1. Ridiculous analogy, m0nts. You do realise that Foggy Bottom answers to the President? If he wants to deprioritise State, then that’s his prerogative. You make it sound as though he’s abolishing the Supreme Court.

    Trump literally said in relation to State that he is the only one that matters.

    He is doing a bang up job of giving Putin as much as he can. Lucky the Congress has nailed some things down. Trump’s prerogative seems to be to dismantle American exceptionalism. He is not a dictator, there was always going to be push back on such an agenda, not least from Congress.

  2. Steve trickler.

    A bloke and his goat, bogged in the outback at 5:30.

    Classic.



  3. Calm down please OWG. We are just nerds talking on a Web forum, not as if anythung we say matters.

  4. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    You do realise why women smile when they walk down the aisle to the altar, don’t you?

    They know they’ve given their last-ever blowjob!

    Curse you, Bruce in WA, curse you to the depths of Hell…… “Now we are married…”

  5. srr

    Well, when Australian Facebook is asking Facebook users to Send Them Nude Photos of Themselves to “help them combat revenge porn“?! … Seriously, WTFF!? … then this doesn’t sound too soon or outlandish –

    Conservative Sitcom Star Hints At Child Sex Trafficking Bombshell:
    ‘Trump Knows…Lots of People Will Become Woke As F*ck This Week’

    Progressive-turned-conservative comedian Roseanne Barr suggests stunning revelations on child sex trafficking will come to light this week.

    Earlier in the evening, Barr tweeted about how President Trump is strongly opposed to child sex trafficking. Barr then underscored how important it is to stop the suffering of innocent children.

    “I perceived Hollywood’s sexism 2B so pervasive as to not even be noticed-it was class based discrimination, with racial undertones based in anti-semitic sado-spiritual necroPed0ism. #ThisIsNow. Trump opposes child trafficking & knows exactly where The Locos is-not many ppl r brave enough2 know, or remember or contain the information-most blank out. #MKULTRA. all that really matters is that we stop the suffering of the world’s innocent children. We can do it bc it’s the right thing 2 do & this is The Age of Aquarius. G0D is with us now. Let’s Roll-,” tweeted Barr.

    Townhall contributor Liz Corkin noted in February that the media failed to cover the Trump administration’s efforts to crackdown on child sex trafficking. Surprise, surprise.

    Townhall reports:

    Since President Donald Trump has been sworn in on Jan. 20, authorities have arrested an unprecedented number of sexual predators involved in child sex trafficking rings in the United States. This should be one of the biggest stories in the national news. Instead, the mainstream media has barely, if at all, covered any of these mass [email protected] arrests. This begs the question – why?

    As a strong advocate for sex crime victims, I’ve been closely following the [email protected] arrests since Trump took office. There have been a staggering 1,500-plus arrests in one short month; compare that to less than 400 sex trafficking-related arrests in 2014 according to the FBI.

    […]
    -On Jan. 27 authorities arrested 42 in a human trafficking operation in Tennessee.

    -On Jan. 29 authorities announced that 474 were arrested in a statewide California human trafficking operation and 28 sexually exploited children were rescued.

    –108 were arrested from Jan. 18 to Feb. 5 in Illinois as part of a national sex trafficking sting operation.

    – 178 people were arrested in Texas for sex trafficking in sting that operated in January till Super Bowl Sunday.

    –16 people were arrested in January in Michigan for sex trafficking during the Detroit Auto Show.

    -In February, authorities arrested 11 in Virginia in a child sex sting.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/11/conservative-sitcom-star-hints-child-sex-trafficking-bombshell-trump-knows-lots-people-will-become-woke-fck-week/

  6. BorisG

    The Libs are frauds and dominated by leftists.

    ok, but the real questions is: who are the Australian electorate? These leftists have not come from thin air. or to re-phrase the question: how many Australians would support a genuine conservative party (that is, a party openly anti-climate bullshit, anti-Islam, anti-welfare, anti-affirmative action, anti-SSM, pro-guns, etc.)?

  7. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    They know they’ve given their last-ever blowjob!

    Curse you, Bruce in WA, curse you to the depths of Hell…… “Now we are married…”

    “What’s the difference between your job, and your marriage?

    After six months, your job still sucks…”

  8. BorisG

    For the record, I vote LDP (with some reservations). But I am not so sure DL has a chance to be the next PM.

  9. twostix

    The only thing “watergatey” at the moment is Obama directing the FBI to wiretap the Republican presidential candidate based on fake intel paid for by Obama’s FBI, the democrats and supplied by Russians.

  10. OneWorldGovernment

    m0nty
    #2551009, posted on November 13, 2017 at 1:01 am

    Calm down please OWG. We are just nerds talking on a Web forum, not as if anythung we say matters.

    Too late monty you f*kwit.

    The order has gone out.

    Make sure that JC stands aside.

  11. BorisG

    The only thing “watergatey” at the moment is Obama directing the FBI to wiretap the Republican presidential candidate based on fake intel paid for by Obama’s FBI, the democrats and supplied by Russians.

    So you do agree that the Russians interfered here? WAW! That is what I was saying all along. If Mueller finds Obama or Clinton complicit in this, it would be good. Somehow you believe it is all about Trump. On what basis?

  12. twostix

    Comrade Boris you vote LDP because your uncles order you to support open borders at any cost.

  13. BorisG

    OWG, what has monty done to you?

  14. Knuckle Dragger

    Rabz/Bruce,

    Another truism:

    When in your teens, get yourself a really big glass jar. Every time you get a blowjob, you put a jelly bean in that jar, and continue doing so until you get married.

    From the day of the wedding on, every time you get a blowjob you take a jelly bean out of the jar and eat it. Continue doing do until you die.

    You will never, EVER,

    run out of jelly beans.

  15. Bron

    That’s what we need. A new moral panic about “anti-semitic sado-spiritual necroPed0ism”.

  16. OneWorldGovernment

    BorisG
    #2551021, posted on November 13, 2017 at 1:11 am

    OWG, what has monty done to you?

    BorisG

    He has splattered this with his infantile foolish crap.

    Not once has he tried to argue a point of view.

    It is all pravda crap.

    You know what pravda is BorisG?

  17. Muzzlehatch

    One Saturday morning at three,
    A cheesemonger’s shop in Paree
    Collapsed to the ground
    With a thunderous sound
    And left a big pile of de brie.

  18. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Whoever it was, who posted the original links to Kurt Russel and Val Kilmer in Dodge City, I’ m sitting up watching those links, Best Western I’ve ever seen.

  19. Muzzlehatch

    OneWorldGovernment
    #2551026, posted on November 13, 2017 at 1:22 am

    No Monty never does. He spends the sunlight hours hanging upside down in an airing rack only to emerge well past the crepuscular to chide those of us that may have imbibed not wisely but rather too well. When I used to do that. I got paid to do it. I had some skin in the game in that if I got too schoolmarmish I could well have copped a flogging. I never was trying to finesee nit picking philosophical wrongological phenomena.

  20. OneWorldGovernment

    Can’t wait to see Melbourne and Sydney have their electricity shut down.

    Can you imagine what a city sounds like with diesel generators?

    Time to buy Caterpillar Shares

    https://www.cat.com/en_US/products/new/power-systems/electric-power-generation/diesel-generator-sets.html

    Oh wait.

    The clever folk have shut down our fuel supplies and gas exploration.

    Can I stand there to watch the clever people be shot dead?

  21. Muzzlehatch

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2551030, posted on November 13, 2017 at 1:32 am

    The extra looked like the guy from Deadwood that gave that brilliant line about the secret to a LONG and happy life. “Dont put your nose in where it might have no reason to be. Happy Days.

  22. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    From the day of the wedding on, every time you get a blowjob you take a jelly bean out of the jar and eat it. Continue doing do until you die.

    If you accept that a modern marriage, is a three ring circus for the groom – an engagement ring, a wedding ring, and endless suffering, you will be right.

    A modern wedding gives the bride an excuse to ride in triumph around the social circus of her relatives, friends, and work colleagues.

    The groom serves admirably, as the horse.

  23. Muzzlehatch

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2551034, posted on November 13, 2017 at 1:47 am
    The firechief of the grey whisker and myself of the number zero. Were observing that the phenomema of coming home unexpectedly to find ones nearest and dearest giving meaning to a few latin euphemisms is lacking in novelty these days.

    Back in the 70s it gave rise to more spleen than ennui.

    no days kids want a nice christian girl to marry and .. being already temprementally “settled down” could skip that and just get down to the rigours of creating as many white babies as possible.

    My Dad was the kinda bloke that saw life in that light in his twenties.

  24. OneWorldGovernment

    ZK2A

    I still remember the movie “Shane” as one of the best.

    Many others after and I always enjoyed the ‘Trinity’ movies.

  25. Muzzlehatch

    Oh and Monty?

    It is OK to be white.

  26. OneWorldGovernment

    Poor old Jack Palance cops it ‘agin’.

  27. BorisG

    He has splattered this with his infantile foolish crap.

    seriously I think Monty is giving you guys a favour by hanging here and copping all the abuse. It would be much duller place if you had no one to argue with.

  28. OneWorldGovernment

    BorisG
    #2551042, posted on November 13, 2017 at 2:13 am

    He has splattered this with his infantile foolish crap.

    seriously I think Monty is giving you guys a favour by hanging here and copping all the abuse. It would be much duller place if you had no one to argue with.

    LOL

    Thanks BorisG.

    For ZK2A

  29. OneWorldGovernment

    It’s amazing how arzholes want to push the envelope and then get snapped back to reality.

  30. Muzzlehatch

    BorisG
    #2551042, posted on November 13, 2017 at 2:13 am
    utterly wrong. The idea that Mons is some kind of mascot like chew toy is flawed.

    If he choses to engage all he has to do is be fair dinkum and would be welcome. Just this schtick of p[laying he annoying junior sibling and disrupting sensible discussion is pointless and annoying.

    Step in a dog end …

  31. BorisG

    OWG and others:

    one big mistake made by many people on this blog (and many other places) is that everyone who has a PV different from yours is either imbecile or villain or both. But likewise your opponents think the same about you.

    You don’t grasp that the current state of affairs (government policies etc) are the result of the objective processes based on largely free elections, freedom of the press, independence of the judiciary etc.

    So essentially to change things you may have to change the system.

  32. BorisG

    If he choses to engage all he has to do is be fair dinkum and would be welcome

    And all other commenters on this blog are fair dinkum! Good grief.

  33. Tom

    Sean Delonas on Saturday’s Armistice Day (Veterans Day in the US).

  34. Er.. Tom: That’s A.F. Branco twice, and no Ben Garrison.

  35. OneWorldGovernment

    BorisG
    #2551050, posted on November 13, 2017 at 3:39 am

    OWG and others:

    one big mistake made by many people on this blog (and many other places) is that everyone who has a PV different from yours is either imbecile or villain or both. But likewise your opponents think the same about you.

    You don’t grasp that the current state of affairs (government policies etc) are the result of the objective processes based on largely free elections, freedom of the press, independence of the judiciary etc.

    So essentially to change things you may have to change the system.

    BorisG, and others but directly to BorisG

    BorisG, how long have you been in Australia and I merely ask because I think you may be missing the angst of a lot of folk on this site?

    Most on this site, at one point or another, have actually worked very hard and given time and money to support what they see as a positive vision of Australia.

    As an example I ask why did you come to Australia and bring your family?

    I presume you foresaw a positive outcome for yourself and your family.

    And that is great.

    But I have to say that I disagree that the current state of affairs (government policies etc) are the result of the objective processes based on largely free elections, freedom of the press, independence of the judiciary etc.

    Perhaps you cannot see the downward slide of our elections, press, judiciary, education, whatever because you grew up in such a totalitarian regime.

    I don’t mind someone, like monty, that wants to poke a stick at some of us to see how we respond. And that is how I took monties verbals for a long time.

    But I know now that he has sucked the Kool Ade of the soros/marxist shemozle.

    What blows me away about this whole section 44 bizo is that we have an avowed communist sitting in the Senate. And cannot be touched.

    I want a transcript of every politicians oath and any that did not swear on the bible can be turffed out.

    In fact anyone that swore on the filthy koran can be jailed.

  36. that the current state of affairs (government policies etc) are the result of the objective processes based on largely free elections, freedom of the press, independence of the judiciary etc.

    Sorry, I just skim-read through the overnight posts – did somebody actually write the above crap?

  37. Bruce of Newcastle

    Sean Delonas

    Colin Kaepernick is not going to like that one!
    Has anyone signed him yet…?
    That knee of his has been very expensive for him.
    His brain even more so.

  38. Mark A

    memoryvault
    #2551073, posted on November 13, 2017 at 5:54 am

    that the current state of affairs (government policies etc) are the result of the objective processes based on largely free elections, freedom of the press, independence of the judiciary etc.

    Sorry, I just skim-read through the overnight posts – did somebody actually write the above crap?

    Not sure MV but by style and content, it had to be BORIS

  39. Not sure MV but by style and content, it had to be BORIS

    Thanks, Mark – you’re right – back at 3.39 am.
    I read the first line of the post but not the rest.
    So the questions are – what planet is Boris from?
    And how recently did he arrive?

  40. Bruce of Newcastle

    Maybe he should stay in Hong Kong.

    Newspoll: Malcolm Turnbull in horror poll slump

    Voters have delivered a damaging blow to Mr Turnbull’s standing as preferred prime minister, cutting his rating from 41 to a new low of 36 per cent and narrowing his lead over Bill Shorten to just two percentage points.

    In its worst result since February, the Coalition now trails Labor by 45 to 55 per cent in two-party terms in a swing that would cost the government more than 20 seats, just as it prepares for another snap by-election in a bid to keep its slim majority in parliament.

    Now neck and neck with Electricity Bill in popularity and 10 points worse on net satisfaction rating (-29 vs -19 for Shorten). Ouch, that will hurt the Savvites.

  41. Now in each of the first two arguments, he has a totally ordered set. He *assumes* this has to be a discrete sequence, just as Zeno did for time. This just ain’t necessarily so. He doesn’t rule out the possibility that they might be a continuum.

    The failure is perfectly understandable, he didn’t have the mathematics in his day. We do in ours. But it blows the first two arguments out of the water.

    Not at all. Feser actually addresses this objection in his new book on pp. 63-66. You are confusing an infinite mathematical series (which Aquinas or other Aristotelians or Thomists have no problem with) with a dependent series of causes that involves instrumental and primary causes.

  42. Dr BG, a word of advice.

    Dover loves this stuff as his meat and drink, and never gives up.

    After doing 15 rounds with him about how European royal families and aristos married their children and babies off to each other (just look up Infanta), I decided that life was too short. He defended them, using the typical Jesuit casuistry and shifting the goalposts to boot.

    They were Catholics, so all is forgiven.

    Don’t waste your time.

    You really are a gutless old windbag and for the most part a know-nothing. Beyond the machinations of what went on in this or that hall of power you are never more than a blow-hard. But it was nice for you to provide notafan an opportunity to prick your balloon with that old chestnut again.

  43. feelthebern

    Colin Kaepernick does have a case re collusion.
    That is, there is nothing wrong with franchises not signing him.
    It’s a free country & all that.
    But if there has been collusion between owners & franchises not to sign him, he’s in for a healthy pay day.
    Dunno much about US labour laws, but I was reading on the interwebs on the weekend that all he has to do is show two franchises did that.
    & that would be fine.
    You can’t collude to stop someone being employed.

  44. feelthebern

    You can’t collude to stop someone being employed.

    No matter how big of a knob you are.

  45. Tel

    But if there has been collusion between owners & franchises not to sign him, he’s in for a healthy pay day.

    What you are thinking of is called “reputation” and it’s perfectly legal.

    The kneeling business happened live on national TV, even I know about it, and I’m not interested in football.

  46. johanna

    Excellent podcast at Spiked, here. About 20 minutes.

    It’s with Thomas Frank about Trump. Frank admits that he doesn’t like Trump, but gives him credit where it is due.

    Good analysis of the decline of the Democratic Party – and lots of parallels with the decline of our Liberal Party. Also, a devastating critique of academic economists (of the non-Sinc/Steve variety).

    Tom is an engaging and entertaining guy. I’m going to look out for his work. Well worth a listen – not echo chamber stuff at all, from either echo chamber.

  47. Mother Lode

    Endlessly, the State chips away at you.

    I think it is accepted in government circles that one government’s core functions is to make paranoid and intrusive demands for people too sensible to make the demands for themselves.

  48. Rev. Archibald

    Maybe if you disgusting pigs washed your cocks occasionally you’d get more blowjobs.

  49. srr

    Thomas Paine‏ @Thomas1774Paine 55m55 minutes ago

    Eerily Quiet in D.C.

  50. Rev. Archibald

    BorisG
    #2551015, posted on November 13, 2017 at 1:06 am
    For the record, I vote LDP

    ..
    That’s almost as bad as admitting your woman won’t blow you any more.

  51. srr

    Professors Not Happy That Jordan Peterson Wants To Warn Students About ‘Radical Left’ Classes

    Professor Jordan Peterson, the University of Toronto instructor who won’t use “gender neutral” pronouns, says students should know what they’re getting into when taking courses from hard-core leftist faculty. That’s not sitting well with some of Peterson’s colleagues who say identifying their politics amounts to harassment.

    Peterson told the Toronto Star on Friday that he has discussed the idea of creating an “information website” that would forewarn students that a course they’ve selected has an ideological axe to grind with “radical left social justice-oriented courses.”

    “I’m not happy with the fact that a huge chunk of the humanities and the social sciences have turned into an indoctrination cult. So I thought, well, the students need to be informed. Because they don’t have the information necessary to make an informed choice, and this would help them make an informed choice,” Peterson told the Star.

    The professor says he’s surprised that there would be objections raised now when he hasn’t even discussed the website for over three months. What Peterson envisioned at that time was a reference of “courses and professors and disciplines that should be avoided” for students not interested in left-wing social justice teaching.

    more at –
    http://truepundit.com/professors-not-happy-that-jordan-peterson-wants-to-warn-students-about-radical-left-classes/

  52. So, the Greens are going to back Turdball in referring four Labor MP’s to the High Court.

    Infographic of the current state of Federal politics in Australia.

  53. Rev. Archibald

    Yellow card, Arky.

    ..
    Is there a time limit on discussing such and so forth?

  54. srr

    Christian Teacher Suspended for ‘Misgendering’ Pupil

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/11/12/teacher-suspended-misgendering-pupil/

    Report: Muslim Rape Gangs Still Abusing Girls in Rotherham

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/11/12/muslim-rape-gang-survivors-grooming-gangs-still-abusing-girls-rotherham/
    _____________________________

    I often wonder if there isn’t a deliberate push to drive the UK to a nation wide breakout of the the opening fight scene of The Gangs of New York …………….

  55. johanna

    Just watching Bobby Flay barbeque on 33.

    I love Bobby. He is the Donald Trump of American celebrity chefs. He is loud and vulgar. And wildly successful.

    One of the things I love about Bobby is that he agrees with me that using extra-virgin olive oil for frying is a waste of money. The ghastly Maggie Beer (who sells the stuff) always insisted that even if you were cooking chips, $25 worth of EVOI was essential. It’s bollocks, if you heat it up to frying level any particular characteristics literally go up in smoke.

    With Bobby, as with Trump, the proof is in the results. There is a show where he turns up to cook against an unknown person their ‘signature dish.’ He doesn’t know what it will be, may never have cooked it before. But most times, on a blind tasting his version wins.

    The fooderati hate his guts, of course.

    Our local version (also on 33) is Adrian Richardson, who does a show extolling the virtues of meat. He had a sign on his oven for a while that read ‘tofu is the enemy.’ The last one I watched was about how to cook a pig’s head and make brawn. And, having spent part of his childhood in Malaysia, he is mustard on Asian cooking as well. His beef rendang had me slavering at the TV screen.

    Nice to see political incorrectness on food shows. Very cheering!

  56. Shy Ted

    You don’t grasp that the current state of affairs (government policies etc) are the result of the objective processes based on largely free elections, freedom of the press, independence of the judiciary etc.
    Maybe in times gone by but the carbon tax wasn’t, MRRT (mining tax) wasn’t, SSM, and many more WERE NOT part of the elected governments policies. So we’re not getting what we vote for. The press may or may not be free, I don’t think it is but you won’t get a gig at the ABC, Fairfax, much of News if you’re conservative. And here in SA, did we vote for batteries? Demonisation of coal, endless debt and deficits? It’s all just their ABC agenda.

  57. Mark A

    tofu is the enemy
    Vile stuff.
    ————————–
    Making brawn needs a bit more than pig’s head, although it’s essential.
    Some more skin for gelatin and pieces of meat you’d usually use in sausages.

    Yummy.

  58. srr

    That the Australian and Norwegian Governments were the first to publicly come out and announce the end of funnelling their tax payer’s money to the Clinton Crime Cartel, doesn’t comfort me, rather, it looked more like they wanted to quickly distance themselves and be forgotten as knowing, major investors in their known evils –

    REPORT: Clinton Foundation Under Severe Financial Strain
    After World’s Largest Corporations End Contributions

    Major corporations that have halted all donations to the Clinton Foundation since President Trump won the White House include “Boeing, Chevron, Daimler Trucks North America, Dell, Duke Energy, General Electric, Humana, Lockheed Martin and UPS.”

    From the IB Times:

    Most of the companies that have previously donated to the Clinton Foundation didn’t contribute in the second quarter of 2017, according to the organization’s website, although some, including Acxiom Corporation, BTIG LLC, Google and Starkey Hearing Technologies, have. Cities, countries, foundations and other nonprofits also donate to the foundation, and some contributed in 2017.

    It’s impossible to know precisely what’s happened to Clinton Foundation fundraising in the year since Secretary Clinton lost. As a 501(c)(3) nonprofit, the foundation submits financial information to the Internal Revenue Service once per year, and information on both 2016 and 2017 is not yet publicly available. But International Business Times contacted nearly 50 major corporations that had previously donated to the foundation, asking if they had made new contributions after the 2016 presidential campaign. Thirty of them did not respond or declined to comment on the questions. Of the 18 that did, all said they had not made new donations.

    Reports of corporations turning their back on the foundation come amid a report largely ignored by the mainstream media, where hedge fund manager and self-described Wall Street whistleblower, Charles Ortel, alleges the Clinton Foundation purposely hid payments attached to the now infamous ‘Russia-Uranium One’ deal.

    Jerome Corsi reports:

    To stress the gravity of the Clinton Foundation’s Russian Uranium One scandal, Ortel told Infowars.comthat he believes Clinton Foundation financial reports are criminally fraudulent in failing to report payments received in relation to the Russian Uranium One Scandal.

    […]Take 2009 results , for example, completed during 2010,” Ortel argued. “You will not find combining results for the Clinton Foundation, by “Initiative” on the Clinton Foundation website as these are purposefully omitted. But you will find these key results on versions of the required audit that are obtained here in New York (punch in EIN: 31-1580204) and look at the 2009 filing.” […]“These show total contributions (normally these are from the general public) of $82.9 million and total grants (normally these are from governments and from foundations) of $162.9 million,” he continued. “Focus on the column “CHAI” (Clinton Health Access Initiative) that shows contributions of $15.5 million of the combined total) and $159.7 in grants of the total). Clearly “CHAI” existed during 2009 as a material portion of the Clinton Foundation.”

    Ortel then poses an important question to Corsi: “who contributed $159.7 million to “CHAI” in 2009?”

    “By going here, we find that a Swiss NGO called UNITAID may have contributed $85 million during 2009,” Ortel then points out.

    “There is no $85 million grant from UNITAID listed and there is no grant listed in 2009 that may have been routed through CGSGI from Russia or from any other source–in fact the combining statement shows $100 (not a typo) in contributions, and only $1.5 million in grants for ‘CGSGI,’” Ortel concludes.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/11/report-clinton-foundation-severe-financial-strain-worlds-largest-corporations-end-contributions/

  59. Shy Ted

    Rev. Archibald
    #2551092, posted on November 13, 2017 at 7:05 am
    Maybe if you disgusting pigs washed your cocks occasionally you’d get more blowjobs.

    LOL. A GOOD blowjob IS a cock-washing.

  60. calli

    Oils ain’t oils, Sol.

    EVOI for dressings, some baking or low temp shallow frying, canola or sunflower for shallow or deep frying, baking, and mayo, peanut oil for the wok.

    It’s all about smoking point.

  61. srr

    President Trump Attends ASEAN Summit in Manilla Philippines…
    Posted on November 12, 2017 by sundance

    Those who have walked in the deep weeds of geopolitical strategy know the emphasis the Trump administration has placed on ASEAN (Association of South-East Asian Nations) as a counter-balance (control leverage) to the Chinese trade and military expansion.

    The ongoing trade and security relationship between the U.S. and India, as well as other regional partners, is a large part of the overarching dynamic. The ASEAN Summit in Manilla Philippines is an opportunity for President Trump to expand the conversations; enter into deeper discussions surrounding the terms of partnership; and deepen commitments toward larger U.S. international objectives.
    *
    The ASEAN (Association of Southeast Asian Nations) region including India, comprises a combined population of 1.85 billion people, one-fourth of the global population. From the perspective of India* – “Prime Minister Modi is likely to reassert India’s push to create a global approach to deal with terrorism. He will also pitch steps to boost regional trade. One of the more significant meetings will be Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s meeting with US President Donald Trump.”

    *Continue reading →
    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/11/12/president-trump-attends-asean-summit-in-manilla-philippines/

  62. calli

    Just watched Pauline Hanson spit the dummy on Sunrise.

    She’s refused to appear with SHY. Idiot Sea Patrol started smearing Hanson over the Dastyari incident and constantly talking over her to the point where the compares had to step in.

    Real hammer and tongs stuff.

  63. Maybe he should stay in Hong Kong.

    Newspoll: Malcolm Turnbull in horror poll slump

    10% 2PP margin.
    It’s the trend that’s interesting. The LNP are being walked down a mine shaft.

    Trumble’s ego won’t take much more of this.

  64. Bruce of Newcastle

    It’s all just their ABC agenda.

    Speaking of such things, the ABC are having a anal-gazing exercise:

    ABC set to unveil massive shake-up

    The ABC will this week axe its television and radio divisions in a far-reaching shake-up that will reorganise 70 per cent of its 4766 staff that produce content, allocating them into just three teams.

    Will the three teams be called GetUp!, The Greens and the Australian Labor Party?
    Whatever. At the same time as the ABC’s clear-the-decks-for-the-election SBS is in money angst.

    Secret SBS talks to rival pay-TV and charge for on-­demand

    The Special Broadcasting Service contemplated asking viewers to pay for the network’s on-­demand service in a move towards a subscription-funded model.

    The national public broadcaster worked on plans to offer audiences an ad-free option of SBS On Demand, which provides free, unlimited streaming of television shows, films and events.

    I thought the ad-free version of the SBS was called “ABC”. I wish them well trying to get blood money out of a stone their Green viewers.

    We would measurably improve this country if we deported the lot of them to Manus Island.

  65. notafan

    BoN

    SBS subscription service is a move in the right direction.

    One small step towards user pays only for SBS and ABC.

  66. srr

    President Donald J. Trump also has a meeting scheduled with The Prime Minister of Australia … Malcolm Turnbull’s name isn’t worth their airtime to mention … or maybe there’s some Patriotic Aussie over there who President Trump will share a nod and 😉 with ….

    EPIC! Philippine President Duterte Sings with Orchestra Upon Trump’s Request
    (Video)

    Another Amazing moment for President Donald Trump–
    Donald Trump landed in the Philippines for the last leg of his East Asian tour on Sunday.
    *
    President Trump was fêted by firebrand Filipino President Rodrigo Duterte.

    At one point in their official dinner Duterte sang with the orchestra upon President Trump’s request.

    As the song ended, President Duterte told the audience that he had performed “on the orders of the commander-in-chief of the United States”.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/11/epic-philippine-president-duterte-sings-orchestra-upon-trumps-request-video/

  67. Tom

    With Bobby, as with Trump, the proof is in the results. There is a show where he turns up to cook against an unknown person their ‘signature dish.’ He doesn’t know what it will be, may never have cooked it before. But most times, on a blind tasting his version wins.

    The fooderati hate his guts, of course.

    Thanks, Jo. I’ve added Bobby Flay to my must-watch list.

  68. Mother Lode

    Idiot Sea Patrol started smearing Hanson

    Thing is that Greeens voters would have lapped it up.

    They would have thought Hanson deserved it and, by gum, they would be just as uncouth and vile if they had half the chance.

    There is no imaginable situation, in their view, where a woman as wrong (i.e. who thinks differently to them) as Hanson should be able to speak in public.

  69. Geriatric Mayfly

    John Bindon, an East End wide boy. Never heard of him? Nor had I until reading Craig Brown’s recent biography of Princess Margaret. Bindon turned up at her island estate on Mustique and speculation about Ugandan discussions with HRH have continued ever since. But Bindon’s real claim to fame, other than time doing porridge, was the alleged size of his aroused todger. “Biffo’s party trick was to balance five half pints of beer on said member.” This led to spirited debate as follows:

    BOTHAM 3 half pints (balancing)
    BREWER’S 6 glasses of beer (balancing)
    CLARKSON 5 half-pint glasses (hanging)
    DAILY TELEGRAPH 6 half-pint glasses (balancing)
    HEALD Unspecified number on ‘tankards’ (hanging)
    KELLER 5 half-pint glasses (balancing)
    CIGARINI 10 pint glasses (hanging)
    AUBERON WAUGH 1 small sherry schooner (balancing)

  70. John Constantine

    Rowan Atkinson to become father again at 62.

    If a woman is happy to be able to marry an older provider male, then she is happy to be able to retire from full time work and have babies and have him pay for all the little things that take the pressure off life, this is a decision where she trades off a hectic full time working life always tired and childless and mortgage burdened for a ‘playing ladies’ life with someone significantly older.

  71. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    Just bloody fabulous – The Australian front page:

    Bishop preferred as Cabinet turns
    Dennis Shanahan (with a photo of Julie Bishop’s skeletal bonce)

    “Malcolm Turnbull has lost key Cabinet support as fears grow he’ll allow citizenship to drag the government to an election. “

    If they told you in ’06 we had this to look forward to you’d have told ’em they were mad:

    The Narcissist, the evil slag sleeper cell from Agenda 21, the by now Insane Narcissist, The Disappointment, Lord Stumbles of Daaahling Point daaahling, next week Loyal Deputy Dagger … soon after Senior Labor Figure accused of rape, convicted drug dealer’s missus Jowls and Albosleazy, who was raised in a housing commission flat, by a single mother, with bad teeth.

    … ten years of anarchy beholden to the fascists at the gate.

  72. Di

    Live now – Charles Ortel on the Crimes of the Clinton Foundation:

    All eyes are on the 15/11/17 – US time. The real tick tock they have been talking about

    Why aren’t the ATO chasing this money?

  73. notafan

    They’ll be tantrums.

    A bill that allows ssmarriage and more or less complete freedom of conscience.

    Almost tempted just thinking of all those heels drumming on the ground.


    James Patterson’s proposed shield law ssmarriage bill ‘conservative libs to offer new gay marriage bill’, beware the paywall.

  74. johanna

    Making brawn needs a bit more than pig’s head, although it’s essential.
    Some more skin for gelatin and pieces of meat you’d usually use in sausages.

    Yummy.

    It’s hard to find good brawn in Australia – generally you have to rely on German or Austrian grandmas and their descendants, in private homes.

    Good to see Adrian Richardson reviving it.

    Oh, and his Mum is Dutch, so he has a good compendium of Dutch and Flemish dishes as well. Especially pork-based ones. Then, there is the Indonesian influence which has pervaded Dutch cooking.

    I like the boy. The name of his show – ‘Secret Meat Business’ – is obviously poking fun at the ‘Secret Wimmins Business’ farce.

    He celebrates what trendy chefs don’t – that salt and fat make food tasty.

  75. Geriatric Mayfly

    He celebrates what trendy chefs don’t – that salt and fat make food tasty.

    The Two Fat Ladies opted for cream and butter, with occasional lashings of bird and animal fats smothering some delicacy.

  76. johanna

    Thanks, Jo. I’ve added Bobby Flay to my must-watch list.

    One of the things that the fooderati hate about Bobby is that he shows people how to cook a steak that would cost at least sixty dollars in a fancy restaurant on your home barbie for ten or fifteen bucks. They really, really hate that. It cuts into their bottom line, big time.

    If you watch Bobby’s show about how to cook a steak on your BBQ, you will never go to a steakhouse again.

    The exception – in my case – is the Charcoal Grill in Canberra. Expensive, but you get the full service and possibly the best wine-list in town. And perfect steak. Been there for 40+ years. Swiss people, I think.

    Most alleged ‘steakhouses’ in Australia are ripoffs. They buy cheap, sell dear, and don’t give a stuff about what happens in between.

  77. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    From srr at 8:03 am:

    “President Donald J. Trump also has a meeting scheduled with The Prime Minister of Australia … Malcolm Turnbull’s name isn’t worth their airtime to mention … or maybe there’s some Patriotic Aussie over there who President Trump will share a nod and 😉 with ….

    Another Amazing moment for President Donald Trump–
    Donald Trump landed in the Philippines for the last leg of his East Asian tour on Sunday.
    *
    President Trump was fêted by firebrand Filipino President Rodrigo Duterte. …”

    Throughout that video the fake newsers try Duterte and find him guilty of whatever the human rights hand wringers across the universe demand he be hung for – that is, doing what he campaigned to do and what the majority of his electorate elected him to do, because they liked how he did it in his part of the country as a senior mayor. The talking heads continually speculate just how angry the Headmaster Trump will be when he has this fellow report to the headmaster’s office later today. If he is not deemed angry enough they will want him to go to the gallows with the Filipino President.

    They are trying the same stunt on Burma – the US pretty much ignores Asia year in year out and as a consequence these media galoots know so little of the place, of the vast and subtle differences between countries populated by people who all look the same to them, and of the reality that SE Asia is not Fifth Avenue New York or Ohio.

    As pleasant and hospitable as they are the Americans can be monumentally ignorant of how life is beyond their horizon.

  78. notafan

    Really charging $60 for a meal that the raw ingredients for the same cost $15 is an outrage?

    Are you a communist or do you just object in general to business people making a profit, not to mention the reality that there are many other costs involved in bringing a meal to a table in a restaurant not just the cost of the piece of meat.

    Btw how do you know restauranters hate cooking shows?

  79. Leigh Lowe

    Geriatric Mayfly

    #2551125, posted on November 13, 2017 at 8:17 am

    Sigh.
    I struggle to support a small piece of tinsel and a silver bauble every year at Christmas.
    Don’t ask.
    It’s a little tradition we have developed.

  80. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    For those beyond the paywall, detail of the pushback. But what are the chances?

    A conservative-backed same-sex marriage bill enshrining wide-reaching shield laws for celebrants, businesses, educators, charities and parents opposed to gay marriage will be taken to the Coalition partyroom in a looming showdown over freedom of speech and religious protections.
    The 34-page bill, obtained by The Australian and to be released today by conservative Victorian Liberal senator James Paterson, would override state and territory anti-discrimination and freedom-of-speech laws to extend protections beyond religious affiliation to anyone who holds a “conscientious belief” in traditional marriage.
    Significantly, the bill also ­includes a “safe schools” clause to confer rights to parents who want to remove their children from classes if they believe the values being taught do not accord with a traditional view of marriage.
    In what will become a potentially critical test of Malcolm Turnbull’s leadership, the bill will be taken to the Liberals’ partyroom when it next meets in two weeks and presented as an alternative model to that favoured by moderates and sponsored by ­Liberal ­senator Dean Smith, which offers only limited protection.
    However, it is believed there are plans to table the bill in the Senate as early as Wednesday if needed following a likely Yes ­result in the gay marriage postal plebiscite.

  81. areff

    Worth noting in regard to the field-marshall’s baton thought to be in Ms Bishop’s Bottega Venetta: 3aw is inviting callers to name their favourite would-be PMs. No voices for Turnbull so far, not one, but plenty of Bishop fanciers. Her appeal:

    “She’s the whole package”
    “She speaks very well”
    “She’s always presentable and would represent us overseas”

    Such are the hinges on which swings public acclaim.

  82. lotocoti

    speculation about Ugandan discussions with HRH have continued ever since.

    Dear Mags must’ve been the Empire’s foremost expert on Uganda if you listened to half the rumours.

  83. The Deplorable Barking Toad

    new fred kiddies

  84. Mark A

    notafan
    #2551158, posted on November 13, 2017 at 9:18 am

    Really charging $60 for a meal that the raw ingredients for the same cost $15 is an outrage?

    Are you a communist or do you just object in general to business people making a profit, not to mention the reality that there are many other costs involved in bringing a meal to a table in a restaurant not just the cost of the piece of meat.

    Btw how do you know restauranters sic ( restaurateurs) hate cooking shows?

    How do you know they don’t?
    For your edification, I could give you recipes as to how to prepare and present an inferior cut of beef as the best. And you would enjoy it.
    Cooking is my hobby.
    You are becoming testy lately, any problems in your life?

  85. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    there are many other costs involved in bringing a meal to a table in a restaurant not just the cost of the piece of meat.

    Yes. Eating out is about ambience and commensality as well as food.
    An anthropologist friend of mine impressed me years ago with his view of civilization.
    In civilization, he said, you never, ever, let a child eat alone.
    Eating alone is what animals do, he added.

    I did point out that lions share their meals, but he had no time for zoology. 🙂

  86. johanna

    notafan
    #2551158, posted on November 13, 2017 at 9:18 am

    Really charging $60 for a meal that the raw ingredients for the same cost $15 is an outrage?

    Are you a communist or do you just object in general to business people making a profit, not to mention the reality that there are many other costs involved in bringing a meal to a table in a restaurant not just the cost of the piece of meat.

    Btw how do you know restauranters hate cooking shows?

    Whoah – what was that all about?

    Where did I say that restauranteurs as a class are anything at all?

    If a punter can get the same food for a quarter of the price at home, what’s wrong with that?

    Bobby has restaurants, which serve very good food and make a profit. He clearly doesn’t regard showing people how to cook good food at home is a threat to his business.

    WTF is your problem?

  87. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    And so ends the thread.
    Shame we can’t take Tom’s toons with it.
    It is always something of a relief to see them roll up on screen after the blood and thunder and slowly sinking hopes and dreams uncovered in one’s scroll through the imbibing night.

    There may still be a few mop ups but you know that the cavalry has arrived. 🙂

  88. Mother Lode

    Georgey Porgy fancied a guy,
    Drugged him and unzipped his fly
    But ‘fore old George enjoyed his prey,
    He broke from George and ran away.

  89. Stimpson J. Cat

    I don’t like any of you.

    As if anyone cares what a Goddamned speech impaired Kiwi thinks.
    We are not sheep.

  90. cynical1

    John Bindon, an East End wide boy.

    Friend of Marg.

    Worst business decision ever?

    Appointing Bindon head of security for a Led Zep US tour.

    according to LZ’s manager.

    Died of AIDS in’83.

    Reputed to have resorted to gay tricks.

    Making ends meet, I suppose.

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