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  1. Well next the snowflakes will vote for Shorten and there goes Australia down the crapper proper.

  2. George

    Predictable, the fun bit will be sorting out the Bill

  3. Slim Cognito

    If you add the no voters and the eligible non responders, you get 8,152,247 which is more than the 7,817,000 who voted yes.

    Just saying but that is the sort of math that Hillary relies on…….

  4. JC

    Finally, I’ll able to marry my beagle.

  5. OldOzzie

    Damn – went for 38% NO Vote – 38.4

    Missed it by that much

  6. Bruce in WA

    Cannot believe my country has sunk this low. Thank Christ I’m old and won’t be around much longer.

  7. manalive

    61.6% ‘yes’ is almost the same as the Irish ‘yes’ at 62.07%.

  8. Fleeced

    Interestingly, the Yes support was lowest in NSW with “only” 57.8%.

  9. Infidel Tiger

    No survey or legislation can ever make a homosexual coupling equal to a heterosexual
    Marriage. No one of sound mind believes they are the same.

    It’s an inferior product and putting a new branding on it doesn’t change anything.

  10. Sean

    How’s this math Slim Cognito …. 60.38% more people voted yes than no: (7817247-4873987)/4873987

    An overwhelming win. It is hilarious to watch the depth of tortured disbelief exhibited by many of you.

  11. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Stand by for the first gay Muslim couple who want to get married in their local mosque…

  12. Ryan

    The response map for the Sydney electorates reveals a sea of yellow. The rest of the country goes overwhelmingly yes.

    https://marriagesurvey.abs.gov.au/results/response-map.html

  13. FelixKruell

    The ‘silent majority’ turned out to be pretty small after all…

    And good to see the polling was largely in line with the result.

  14. Infidel Tiger

    If you harangue people long enough, fraudulently campaign that marriage is just about feels and love and spend 4 decades indoctrinating people then this is the result.

    Doesn’t change a thing. Same sex people can never be really married or happy.

  15. Wow look at all those brave dykes and poo jabbers lining up in front of their local Mosques.

  16. areff

    Finally, I’ll able to marry my beagle.

    Cocker spaniels have better ears for holding and lovely, soft, romantic eyes.

  17. Andore Jr.

    Not to burst bubbles or anything, but this is like a plebiscite on ‘lower taxes’ – yes, a majority want it, now how are you going to implement it?

  18. JC

    Infidel Tiger
    #2553569, posted on November 15, 2017 at 10:31 am

    No survey or legislation can ever make a homosexual coupling equal to a heterosexual
    Marriage. No one of sound mind believes they are the same.

    It’s an inferior product and putting a new branding on it doesn’t change anything.

    We are likely to get more product differentiation in the marriage market. More people may end up wanting to marry in churches now.
    It could end up that people marry without a marriage license in a church and then allow the defacto laws to run in in order to avoid the SSM thing.

  19. Seco

    Tony Abbott, the man who got gay marriage up.

    No doubt he’s a hero to the LGBTIQWERTY’s.

  20. GP

    Unless we see large groups marching down the street with “Hate is Hate” signs, the first SSM divorce invalidates the result.

  21. Cannibal

    Standby for left filth to simultaneously want to burn down churches and also get married in them.

  22. manalive

    Sportsbet reports 62% of the money was on ‘yes’ paying $1.60.

  23. Michel Lasouris

    Forgone conclusion. There will always be more bogans than intellectuals. That’s why we have Socialism. Bogans need to be told what to do and think; can’t manage it by themselves. They go to war on command, congregate at sporting events en masse, riot when told, join churches and unions. The best an intellectual can do is stay quiet, alone, and keep away from them as much as possible. We will never win.

  24. Tugger

    We have to do it again. I slept in and forgot to mail my form in. If we don’t have another plebasomething I will self harm!

  25. JC

    But truly, why the need for a marriage license? Would a Catholic priest consecrate a wedding without a state legal document, in full knowledge of the de facto laws operating?

  26. Tony Abbott, the man who got gay marriage up.

    No doubt he’s a hero to the LGBTIQWERTY’s.

    75% yes in his electorate.

  27. JC

    We will never win.

    I don’t think you have to. I think all you need to do is not lose.

  28. Dianeh

    A Newspoll for The Australian reported 63 per cent of those polled had voted Yes in the survey.

    Can’t get link to work on iPad, so quoted from news.

    Results are pretty close to last polls published.

  29. Dianeh

    And so it still doesn’t work properly but you get the idea

  30. Infidel Tiger

    Looking at the footage, Australia’s Lesbians need gastric bands, not wedding bands.

  31. Bruce of Newcastle

    LOL!

    I just had a look at the NSW by electorate, the lowest yes vote is 30.4% in the electorate of Watson.
    Where is the electorate of Watson you might ask?
    Here.

    The ALPers in that area are going to have an interesting decision come 27 Nov. 😀

  32. H B Bear

    Sportsbet reports 62% of the money was on ‘yes’ paying $1.60.

    That was some free money right there.

  33. Bruce of Newcastle

    Called it!

    Rake meets M0nty again. LOL.

  34. Graham

    Have a look at the ALP south western seats in Sydney with large ‘No’ majorities according to the ABS website. If there was a decent conservative movement in Australia those seats could be in play at the next election. It seems not all of our ethnic and Muslim compatriots are terribly keen on 2 blokes or 2 lesbians “marrying”.

  35. Caveman

    Finally, I’ll able to marry my beagle.

    sign a pre nup.

  36. Stimpson J. Cat

    The best an intellectual can do is stay quiet, alone, and keep away from them as much as possible.

    Sounds like winning to me.
    Well done genius.
    Good work.

  37. Fleeced

    75% yes in his electorate.

    Wow, really?

    I haven’t drilled down into the electorates yet. No doubt we’ll be seeing lots of analysis about the divide between cities and regional areas… but it was still a pretty clear win in every electorate.

  38. Gab

    Just because the (alleged) majority voted “yes” doesn’t mean they are right.

    Around 60% voted for Adolf Hitler’s socialist party.

  39. C.L.

    Given that it was virtually illegal to advocate the No case, 40 percent opposed to homosexual “marriage” is surprising, quite frankly. If the case was prosecuted by the nation’s supposedly dominant conservative party and the terrorism of the homosexual lobby accurately reported, Yessers would have lost. No joy for libertarians either as far more than 61 percent of Australians believe in endless free stuff. To be consistent, they have to admit that the case against Keynesian statism has been lost.

  40. Fleeced

    sign a pre nup.

    Nah, they’re ignored now.

  41. Philippa Martyr

    So who won the sweep? There’s a burger and fries riding on this.

  42. A Lurker

    Looks like the Authoritarian State is the new BFF of Australian LDP Libertarians.

  43. C.L.

    Finally, I’ll able to marry my beagle.

    Technically, yes.
    Yessers are saying that any traditional requisite of marriage may now be legislated out of existence. So there is no logical reason for them to oppose beagle nuptials.

  44. hzhousewife

    LOL!

    I just had a look at the NSW by electorate, the lowest yes vote is 30.4% in the electorate of Watson.
    Where is the electorate of Watson you might ask?
    Here.

    The ALPers in that area are going to have an interesting decision come 27 Nov.

    Come on down, Tony Burke !

  45. Infidel Tiger

    Antony Green
    Antony Green
    @AntonyGreenABC
    17 No electorates, 12 in Western Sydney, 2 in Melbourne, 3 in Rural Queensland

  46. The good thing about this is that since the vote was also a referendum on Safe Schools, according to the Noies, there is a resounding mandate for Safe Schools now as well.

  47. Infidel Tiger

    Western Sydney decides Federal elections.

  48. Philippa Martyr

    17 No electorates, 12 in Western Sydney, 2 in Melbourne, 3 in Rural Queensland

    In Western Sydney?

    Who knew.

  49. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Challenge for Turnbull is to ensure 4.8 million No voters aren’t ignored

    Dennis Shanahan
    The Australian
    10:39AM November 15, 2017

    Australia has voted Yes for same-sex marriage.

    The postal survey on same-sex marriage has been a success. It has delivered a clear result and given every eligible voter the chance to have their say.

    The clear Yes vote provides clear guidance for the Parliament and a positive aid to Malcolm Turnbull.

    Both Yes and No campaigners now have to realise that neither a winner-takes-all or a dog-in-the-manger attitude will be acceptable and that compromise not he legislation will be necessary to honour the result of the survey and the spirit in which it was conducted.

    The extremely high response rate — 79.5 per cent — and the victory for Yes in every State and Territory as well as in an overwhelming majority of electorates gives an undeniable mandate to the Parliament to pass same-sex marriage legislation.

    The Prime Minister has a mandate to keep his promise to pass same-sex marriage before Christmas.

    The postal survey has been a political success for Turnbull, Peter Dutton and Mathias Cormann and belies all the opposition to it from Labor and the Yes campaigners because of the turnout and the endorsement of the results from the Yes campaign.

    No campaigners such as Tony Abbott has said he will support the bill according tot he result of the plebiscite but part of the success of the survey was that it gave No voters a chance to have their say.

    In the end, while the clear majority of 7 million voted for same-sex marriage, a substantial majority — 4.8 million — voted against.

    No voters had the opportunity to have their say and they did.

    The political challenge for Turnbull and the leaders of the Yes campaign is now not to ignore the real concerns raised during the campaign and supported by almost 5 million Australians and to ensure other rights are not diminished by extending a new right.

    A partisan “winner takes all” attitude will go against the spirit of the debate, the depth of public interest and engagement on issues of conscience.

    From the Oz. Amid all the hoop – la, nearly five million people voted “No.”

  50. feelthebern

    Come on down, Tony Burke

    Tony Burke will miss the vote has he will be in the West Bank at the time on a study mission.
    Just to keep his local durka durka’s happy?

  51. Infidel Tiger

    Monty calm down. Your lefty mates will have their free pass for grooming kiddies in good time.

    Don’t get greedy.

  52. Sean

    CL …. 60.38% more people voted yes than no: (7817247-4873987)/4873987 in a voluntary survey. Don’t try to deny that this represents a marginal win when the facts are quite clearly that this is a massive (and welcomed) win to the yes campaign.

  53. Slim Cognito

    How’s this math Slim Cognito ….

    Better than your comprehension. Did you actually read my post? I stand by the math.

  54. From the previous SSM thread

    Sinclair Davidson
    #2553110, posted on November 14, 2017 at 11:16 pm
    The problem as I see it is this – the No campaign had some very good arguments about the safe schools program and parenting – yet, NOTHING WHATSOEVER ABOUT same sex marriage. By dragging all that into the SSM debate they have undermined what good they could have done on more serious issues. Shame on you.

    I know you weren’t living under a rock for the last 6 months.
    Do you really believe the ‘right’ had any chance to debate this issue openly and fairly? I’m asking this in all seriousness. Do you Sinclair, believe Australians had a fair and reasonable debate about this issue?
    Were people with differing views heard fully and responded to fairly?
    Did media outlets give the same air and column time to all sides of this issue?

    As in war, in the cultural wars there are some grounds that cannot be given up, because if you do there is every chance you will be run over. The SSM battle was for one of the most important hills in the culture wars. My side rolled over and lost by retreating. We will now be run over very very quickly.

  55. GP

    17 No electorates, 12 in Western Sydney, 2 in Melbourne, 3 in Rural Queensland

    Stand by for SSM/ABC wrath to be visited upon 3 rural Queensland electorates.

  56. Given that it was virtually illegal to advocate the No case, 40 percent opposed to homosexual “marriage” is surprising, quite frankly. If the case was prosecuted by the nation’s supposedly dominant conservative party and the terrorism of the homosexual lobby accurately reported, Yessers would have lost. No joy for libertarians either as far more than 61 percent of Australians believe in endless free stuff. To be consistent, they have to admit that the case against Keynesian statism has been lost.

    The Noies spent far more on advertising, Lyle Shelton was everywhere, and there was no gay terrorism despite your bleating about that crazy bloke who topped himself.

    CL, your mob lost fair and square, and by a massive margin. Have some dignity, please.

  57. Joe

    Is there a breakdown by Sex – male/female available?

  58. Ooh Honey Honey

    This was never about gays getting married. It was only ever a platform for everyone else to display their support.

  59. Anthony

    I notice that Lalor (Werribee area) in Victoria voted 43 per cent NO. During the voting period my local barber took a poll of his customers. Not one customer said that he would vote YES.

  60. C.L.

    The Noies spent far more on advertising.

    LOL.

    Yessers didn’t have to advertise. ABC, SBS, Ten, Nine, Seven, ABC radio etc etc etc.
    Like I said, given that it was virtually illegal to advocate the No case, the figure is surprisingly lame.
    Yessers thought it would be 99.9 percent.

  61. Sean

    Anthony – that’s it then. Next vote we simply ask all barbers to conduct the survey and save circa $100m ….. Because everyone goes to a barber right?

  62. Snoopy

    Blowing yourself up in a van full of gas bottles is a popular suicide method.

  63. JC

    Monst

    Artiste is right. What’s all this strange excitement you’re exhibiting all about, I/we thought you already married to a woman.

    Calm the fuck down, you idiot.

  64. Like I said, given that it was virtually illegal to advocate the No case, the figure is surprisingly lame.
    Yessers thought it would be 99.9 percent.

    That’s just pathetic by you CL. You really have nothing to say on days like today, because you have no sense of shame.

  65. Ubique

    In 2007 a majority of Australians voted for a Kevin Rudd led government. We don’t always get it right.

  66. JC

    At least finally, Neil Armfield will be able to marry.

  67. Snoopy

    Get with the program, CL. Sticking your cock up a bloke’s arse just screams dignity.

  68. Snoopy

    Calm the fuck down, you idiot.

    It’s all about the children.

  69. JC, we live next door to a gay couple and have several more as friends. I am happy for them that they aren’t treated as lesser citizens any more.

  70. notafan

    because you have no sense of shame.

    From the Cat’s own habitual liar that has got to hurt.

    And CL is correct about the inability to present the no case, and you know it, POSTER BOY.

  71. Gab

    Lee Lin Chin‏Verified account @LeeLinChinSBS
    9m9 minutes ago

    As a newsreader for a public broadcaster I’m meant to have zero opinions so I’ll just say this… GOOD! ABOUT TIME! SUCKED IN OPPOSING VIEW!

  72. manalive

    Beagles will do anything to please their owner.

  73. Any doubts you had about the sort of country you now live in, have been removed.

  74. duncanm

    https://marriagesurvey.abs.gov.au/results/response-map.html

    about 50% of the Sydney electorates said No.

    Interesting stuff. Most of them would not be what you call traditional white-bread electorates.

  75. Andreas

    The Noies spent far more on advertising

    So did Hillary Clinton. But do tell us more about how the Wussians stole the US election.

  76. C.L.

    As for my “mob,” Monty … I’m a Catholic.
    That homosexuals now get to “marry” in fake state ceremonies in parks and Elvis Chapel ‘o Loves by phony celebrants won’t change Catholic real marriage.
    What it will change is society more generally, especially by placing children in dysfunctional, pretend ‘families,’ brainwashing children in schools and by expediting the diminution of free speech and liberty of conscience, to name just a few of the inevitable pathologies.

  77. feelthebern

    So now what will they talk about on Q&A?

  78. JC

    m0nty
    #2553686, posted on November 15, 2017 at 11:13 am

    JC, we live next door to a gay couple and have several more as friends. I am happy for them that they aren’t treated as lesser citizens any more.

    We went out with a gay couple last night, you idiot. I never felt the need to be happy for them, because in a short while they will be able to marry. In fact they didn’t even ask for my opinion. Stop annoying your neighbors and leave them alone.

  79. Infidel Tiger

    JC, we live next door to a gay couple and have several more as friends. I am happy for them that they aren’t treated as lesser citizens any more.

    Do you drink raw milk and do fire stick twirling in the park on the weekends?

  80. feelthebern

    So just like the Labor No votes in the Aboriginal referendum were erased from history, the Labor seats voting no to SSM will magically become the file footage of the yes campaign.

  81. A Lurker

    Once ssm passes into law expect many church ministers to tear up their State marriage licenses and conduct wedding ceremonies only for parishioners.

  82. Lysander

    So the SSM crowd who said anyone opposed to SSM was a homophobe really need to be worried that 5,000,000 Australians are homophobic! That’s no small number of homophobes… certainly not the majority but still a helluva lot!

  83. JC

    Once ssm passes into law expect many church ministers to tear up their State marriage licenses and conduct wedding ceremonies only for parishioners.

    Good!

  84. EJ.

    OK..so the Yes Vote wins and Turnbull wants this sorted before Christmas….so can they now seriously concentrate on those Parliamentarians who are not eligible to sit in Government. I want to know who is legitimately able to vote on the bills. December 1 can’t come soon enough.

  85. feelthebern

    Once ssm passes into law expect many church ministers to tear up their State marriage licenses and conduct wedding ceremonies only for parishioners.

    Don’t be silly.
    That will open happen after Penny Wong sues Pell for not performing her wedding ceremony.
    Wong: If not me, who? If not now, when?

  86. C.L.

    about 50% of the Sydney electorates said No.

    Interesting stuff. Most of them would not be what you call traditional white-bread electorates.

    Of course. As I’ve said many times, gay “marriage” long ago bumped the Beach Boys from the top of the Stuff White Folks Like list.

  87. manalive

    Monty … I’m a Catholic …


    Over one third of the marriages in Australia end up in the Family Court.
    Already the Catholic Church would not officially recognised most of the marriages conducted in Australia.

  88. Ubique

    So now what will they talk about on Q&A?

    Simple. Why do we deny three or more people who love each other marriage equality?

  89. Infidel Tiger

    What can be legislated can also be unlegislated.

    If we copy the homosexualists brilliant campaign, I see no reason homosexuality can’t be made illegal once again. This is the world we now live in.

  90. Hugh

    Can we now have a plebiscite on lowering the earth’s gravitational force?
    9.8 m/s/s is just too much.

  91. Natural Instinct

    YES vote
    .
    Blaxland 26.1 ALP
    Watson 30.4 ALP
    McMahon 35.1 ALP
    Fowler 36.3 ALP
    Werriwa 36.3 ALP
    Parramatta 38.4 ALP
    Chifley 41.3 ALP
    Calwell 43.2 ALP
    Barton 43.6 ALP
    Maranoa 43.9 LNP
    Banks 44.9 ALP
    Greenway 46.4 ALP
    Kennedy 46.7 LNP
    Bruce 46.9 ALP
    Mitchell 49.1 LP
    Groom 49.2 LNP
    Bennelong 49.8 LP

  92. Grumpy Racist Homophobe

    This is a dark day for civilisation in this country. Next is incest, polygamy, and bestiality. The trip down the slope has now sharpened and those items will happen quickly.

  93. Natural Instinct

    The party designation was 2PP not actual member, e.g. LP may have highest 2PP but lose to the second candidate if preference deals are significant

  94. Grumpy Racist Homophobe

    My last comment is in moderation. What word was the trigger? My tip is the ‘b’ word.

  95. hzhousewife

    JC, we live next door to a gay couple and have several more as friends. I am happy for them that they aren’t treated as lesser citizens any more.

    I haven’t been treating them as “lesser citizens” Monty, have you ?

  96. Grumpy Racist Homophobe

    This is a dark day for civilisation in this country. Next is in***t, polygamy, and b*******y. The trip down the slope has now sharpened and those items will happen quickly.

  97. What it will change is society more generally, especially by placing children in dysfunctional, pretend ‘families,’ brainwashing children in schools and by expediting the diminution of free speech and liberty of conscience, to name just a few of the inevitable pathologies.

    Mmyes CL, traditional Catholic marriages are perfect and never result in divorce, child abuse or violence.

    You and Lyle Shelton are massive losers. Society just told you so.

  98. duncanm

    You can see why Labor were so ambiguous in their approach to the vote/issue.

    Of the 12 electorates in Sydney that voted No, 9 are Labor, and the 3 Lib No’s are in the 4 weakest vote against.

    For all the railing against the LNP conservatives – they’re nothing of the sort on the issue.

    Electorate %No
    Blaxland 73.9%
    Watson 69.6%
    McMahon 64.9%
    Werriwa 63.7%
    Fowler 63.7%
    Parramatta 61.6%
    Chifley 58.7%
    Barton 56.4%
    Banks (Lib) 55.1%
    Greenway 53.6%
    Mitchell (Lib) 50.9%
    Bennelong (Lib) 50.2%

  99. JC

    So now what will they talk about on Q&A?

    Dunno, So I asked Tones.

    @TonyJones_qanda Hey Tones, people on the catallaxy blog want to know now that the SSM is essentially over, WTF will you raise as discussion topics for Leftwing ABC trolls to get excited about? Gerbil warming for an hour each week?

  100. duncanm

    snap – Natural Instinct had the same (instinct)

  101. Lysander

    Fear and trembling. Not Kierkegaard, Lysander…

    The fact that 61% of Ozzies (not as high as they thought but still a win) voted for a fictitious bill nobody has seen based on a fictitious concept will send a clear signal to the ABC that they are in charge of the agenda and social policy. Ask a question for long enough, and it’ll happen…

  102. Makka

    especially by placing children in dysfunctional, pretend ‘families,’ brainwashing children in schools and by expediting the diminution of free speech and liberty of conscience, to name just a few of the inevitable pathologies.

    Unsurprising mUnty supports all these outcomes.

  103. JC

    hzhousewife
    #2553731, posted on November 15, 2017 at 11:31 am

    JC, we live next door to a gay couple and have several more as friends. I am happy for them that they aren’t treated as lesser citizens any more.

    I haven’t been treating them as “lesser citizens” Monty, have you ?

    He does in a perverse sort of way.

  104. duncanm

    Catholics (and others) should rebrand their marriage ceremonies ‘Real Marriage’.

    That’d be fun to watch.

  105. Tel

    If we copy the homosexualists brilliant campaign, I see no reason homosexuality can’t be made illegal once again. This is the world we now live in.

    The problem is that a “one size fits all” mentality to lifestyle essentially gives each group no choice but to dominate the others. It is only by saying, “You are really different to me, and we both accept the fact” that we can avoid dominance and uniformity imposed by the majority.

  106. Dr Faustus

    Australia has agreed by majority that marriage is about love, self-actualisation, human rights, recognising the de facto legal status of the individual, ‘fairness’, and compliance with the practices of several other countries. All quite reasonable; except to a substantial minority who for various reasons don’t agree with the cultural redefinition.

    So, what are the arguments that now stand against polygamy?

    Given the result in Western Sydney, the Shorten/DiNatale Government will have this one over the line by Election Day 2021.

  107. I haven’t been treating them as “lesser citizens” Monty, have you ?

    The state has been doing so, hzhousewife.

  108. JC

    The state has been doing so, hzhousewife.

    No it hasn’t. Stop being a moron.

  109. Jo Smyth

    If you thought the media hysteria was bad before the vote, it will be wall to wall between now and Christmas. All those rainbow flags flying outside OUR Parliament building, looked ridiculous. Meanwhile, who is resigning from Parliament today because they are not a citizen, just wondering.

  110. anonandon

    Interesting stuff. Most of them would not be what you call traditional white-bread electorates.

    Fascinating stuff. From what I can see almost every electorate in metro Melbourne and Sydney with a majority no vote has a significant muslim population.

  111. Viva

    So where were the church leaders in this campaign? Poor old Lyle Shelton had to carry the load virtually on his own.

  112. Tracey

    I’m guessing that lying, up himself Egyptian dunce will be given the night off from Their Project tonight.

  113. JC, shut up for once. Go fondle your Sydney Airport shares.

  114. Gab

    LOL even when the yes side “won”, they’re still being acrimonious about it and monty is rehashing arguments. That’s because they know, deep down, homo “marriage” will never have the same status as hetero marriage.

  115. Can we now have a plebiscite on lowering the earth’s gravitational force?
    9.8 m/s/s is just too much.

    Trumble is your man !

    The laws of mathematics are very commendable but the only laws that applies in Australia is the law of Australia.

  116. notafan

    You and Lyle Shelton are massive losers. Society just told you so.

    Wow Monty, could you be any more pathetic?

    Winning on voting to call a triangle a square is about the lamest victory in history of humanity but you just run around with your shirt over your head claiming that men of conscience have been told by ‘society’ they are ‘losers’ because ‘love is love’.

    The 40%ers will not change what is in their hearts and poppycocks like you will have have to live with it, and we know from history how much people like you have always hated people who are true.

  117. Ryan

    Next step on the slippery slope to hell is a reduction in the age of consent.

    France is set to lower theirs to 13 as we speak.

  118. DrBeauGan

    As I said yesterday, this was a vote to decide how dumb Australians are. Now we know over 60% are brainless idiots swayed by silly slogans, sentimentality and a desire to virtue signal.

    I’m going to have my steak dinner and champagne anyway, to console myself for having to live in a country busy going down the gurgler.

  119. JC

    Jo Smyth
    #2553751, posted on November 15, 2017 at 11:40 am

    If you thought the media hysteria was bad before the vote, it will be wall to wall between now and Christmas. All those rainbow flags flying outside OUR Parliament building, looked ridiculous. Meanwhile, who is resigning from Parliament today because they are not a citizen, just wondering.

    Years ago, when I watched Q&A they frequently wheeled a former Viet vet and his gay son. The kid really looked gay and was pouting all the time. I wonder if those two idiots are happy now?

  120. Iampeter

    Its actually a pretty poor number tbh. 40% of Australians think the state should be intrusive enough to regulate marriage and these same people think they are an alternative to the left.

    A friend made a drawl comment looking at these figures, asking how women ever managed to get the vote even to this day, but the real issue is a complete lack of individualist, supporters of rights protecting government and capitalists.

    Just secular leftists and religious leftists.

    Everyone just wants the state regulating our lives in every which way.

  121. Lysander

    Indeed Gab. But if they want to call Tony Abbott “Mr 1950’s” I’m going to call Monty and his mates Mr 100BC.

    *not this bce either.

  122. JC

    m0nty
    #2553757, posted on November 15, 2017 at 11:41 am

    JC, shut up for once. Go fondle your Sydney Airport shares.

    Be nice.

  123. A Lurker

    I’m sure the LDP will support these potential additions to the rainbow flag.

    Oh! And marriage for all – because luuurve and equality, and because it is the Libertarian way.

  124. Viva

    When asked on Sky why he had no campaigned for the No side, Matthias Cormann simply said that people had formed a view so there was no need.

    We now see how that non approach worked out.

  125. notafan

    So where were the church leaders in this campaign? Poor old Lyle Shelton had to carry the load virtually on his own.

    Not true, the no campaign got about as much airtime as the MSM allowed them, in other words virtually none.

    The Catholic Bishops made statements that were read out in every parish, I assume other faithful churches did the same.

    It was not in the yes campaign’s interest to hear reasoned arguments from the no campaign so they were intimidated on social media and disappeared from the msm.

  126. Boambee John

    you have no sense of shame.

    This was m0nty at 1110.

    Talk about the pot calling the kettle black, this from the most shameless dissembler on the blog?

  127. Jack

    Phew, I’ve been having the same sex with my wife for yrs.

  128. As I said yesterday, this was a vote to decide how dumb Australians are. Now we know over 60% are brainless idiots swayed by silly slogans, sentimentality and a desire to virtue signal.

    Total agreement from me.

    May I quote you?

  129. LOL even when the yes side “won”, they’re still being acrimonious about it and monty is rehashing arguments.

    Gab, you just invoked Godwin’s Law. You are in no position to lecture about stale argumentation.

  130. Gab

    You and Lyle Shelton are massive losers. Society just told you so.

    LOL See it’s not about the vote, it’s about the “side”.

  131. Its actually a pretty poor number tbh. 40% of Australians think the state should be intrusive enough to regulate marriage and these same people think they are an alternative to the left.

    Sixty one per cent just gave the state the green light to redefine marriage, you idiot, and to continue the state regulation you constantly decry.

  132. DrBeauGan

    May I quote you?

    Yes, do.

  133. H B Bear

    ALPBC radio is wall to wall homos. Gonna be a wild time in the ol’ bathhouse tonight.

  134. Its actually a pretty poor number tbh.

    We are getting a greatest hits collection of bad faith arguments today on the Cat, in the face of a gargantuan loss by conservatism. My cup runneth over.

  135. mh

    Ferry McFerry Face and now this!

  136. H B Bear

    You and Lyle Shelton are massive losers. Society just told you so.

    What an utter cOckhead you are mUnty.

  137. stackja

    H B Bear
    #2553786, posted on November 15, 2017 at 11:52 am
    ALPBC radio is wall to wall homos. Gonna be a wild time in the ol’ bathhouse tonight.

    And the disease rate?

  138. Gab

    monty, Godwin’s Law or not, facts are facts and don’t care about your feelings.

  139. Anne

    The Rothschilds own the Australian Government, both sides and any person or NGO with any power to influence or stir the masses.

    This “vote” was a scam, a deception.

    Destruction of strong families is an important step in the Globalisation, depopulation and the One World Government process. Next comes division, hatred, civil war, martial law.

    The monstrous people who rule our world believe in slavery and befoulment of the innocent is a particular delectation for them.

    They will happily sacrifice most of the useless eaters but they will keep the children for sex, tor-ture entertainment and bleeding.

    That is, if Trump doesn’t mess up their Global child trafficking trade too much.

  140. zyconoclast

    Stand by for the first gay Muslim couple who want to get married in their local mosque…

    They will choose a Catholic church.
    They can get more publicity, a thumbs up from the media and local imam* and a bigger payout.

    *No defenestration

  141. JC

    Annie, you’re back I see.

    The Rothschilds own the Australian Government,

    How so?

  142. FelixKruell

    Notafan:

    The Catholic Bishops made statements that were read out in every parish, I assume other faithful churches did the same.

    Given the majority of catholics appear to have voted ‘Yes’, the Catholic Bishops clearly need to work on their powers of persuasion.

    The NO vote had plenty of opportunities to make arguments against SSM. They spent most of those opportunities fighting Safe Schools and other peripheral issues.

  143. Snoopy

    49% of eligible Australians voted for same sex marriage. Huge victory!

  144. rickw

    Munty was right once in a decade and now he’s being an insufferable turd.

  145. Leigh Lowe

    Fleeced

    #2553562, posted on November 15, 2017 at 10:29 am

    Interestingly, the Yes support was lowest in NSW with “only” 57.8%.

    Mosqueville?

  146. feelthebern

    Want to make a market on Waleed Aly being absent from the Panel tonight.
    I don’t watch, so a Cat with a hardier stomach than mine will have to front up & watch.

  147. Amadeus

    I believe most people who voted YES for same sex unions have done so with very limited understanding of the full implications and ramifications of changing the Marriage Act. The haters appear to have won.

    I fear that our traditional values, morals, virtues and ethics just got flushed away to appease a handful of tuggers and pipi lickers. Those countries which went down this path of nebulising same sex unions, traditionalist views on marriage and those objecting to participate in providing goods and services to gays are increasingly under siege. This is because protection of the human rights of individuals to refuse and the right to support traditional values and marriage practices between men and women only are now finding themselves being charged and vilified by State sanctioned laws discriminating against the majority of people.

    It has been our experience in Australia, during the past 10 years in particular, to witness and have to put up with government policies, actions and legislation which were poorly thought through, hastily and incompetently introduced. And the community has had to wear the consequences. As we well know, once laws and practices are formalised, it is exceedingly difficult to wind them back because there’s always some Mickey Mouse outfit or fringe group which sees its vested interests under threat.

    When (and it seems highly likely) the Marriage Act is neutered, it will provide the legal authority for all kinds of deviant stuff to come out of the woodwork as the minority push their socialist agenda – the Safe Schools rubbish will most certainly become the new norm, taxpayer money will be flushed away for gender bender programs which the few will see as “human rights”.

    For the rest of us, I simply see the Federal Government trampling on our human rights to accommodate the lifestyle choices and biological confusion of a minute proportion of society.

    Talk about discrimination!!!! This is surely “…a bridge too far…” in breach of the human rights of ordinary, normal, taxpaying Australians.

  148. Joe

    49% of eligible Australians voted for same sex marriage. Huge victory!

    Pretty much the same % as for the fake Irish vote. See a pattern there?

  149. zyconoclast

    Is there a breakdown by Sex – male/female available?

    That was the point, a breakdown of male/female and a build-up of male/male and female/female.

  150. jupes

    Safe Schools come on down!

  151. The BigBlueCat

    Anthony
    #2553671, posted on November 15, 2017 at 11:06 am
    I notice that Lalor (Werribee area) in Victoria voted 43 per cent NO. During the voting period my local barber took a poll of his customers. Not one customer said that he would vote YES.

    Very interesting, given this is a safe Labor seat. I’m guessing that a large number of Muslims, Catholics and other Christians (Orthodox, Pentecostals) make up that 43%

  152. JC

    Finally I’ll be able to marry the beagle. I know I said that earlier, but like Monty, we’re so excited.

  153. Q. Will Mal get the legislation through parliament before the by-election results?
    A. No

    I wonder who will be PM when the legislation passes.

  154. Snoopy

    No wonder Turnbull thinks he’s doing well. He claims Australians voted “overwhelmingly for marriage equality”.

  155. Chris

    We are getting a greatest hits collection of bad faith arguments today on the Cat, in the face of a gargantuan loss by conservatism. My cup runneth over.

    But – but – but – the referendum was JUST about marrying two people who love each other, every other argument is irrelevant. Right, Buehler? Buehler?

  156. Lysander

    Expect a baby boom in 9 months from this day….

    oh, wait.

    Damn you Mother Nature! Homophobe!

  157. The BigBlueCat

    You know, I would laugh my head off that, if in a free parliamentary vote, the changes were voted down because few politicians would support them ….

    It’s incumbent on the Australian Federal Parliament to consider the 39% who voted NO and the reasons why they voted NO. I find it very interesting the number of ALP electorates that did actually vote NO. I wonder if the MP’s representing those electorates will have the guts to vote contrary to the wishes of their constituencies. Coz if they don’t vote the way of their electorate, then clearly they are out of touch with their voters! Bill Shorten needs to be reminded of this!

  158. hzhousewife

    Hmmm, perhaps our parliamentarians will not be so keen to bring in as many Muslim immigrants from now on?

  159. Tezza

    Canadian-derived ‘All families are equal’ legislation in 12 months.

  160. Bruce of Newcastle

    Mr Turnbull acknowledged that Australians had “spoken in their millions” and voted overwhelmingly Yes for marriage equality.

    “They voted yes for fairness, yes for commitment, yes for love.

    As usual Turnbull gets it completely arse-backwards.
    They voted yes for bigotry, yes for persecution, yes for hatred.

    If you really wanted fairness and love Mr Turnbull you’d remove the word “marriage” from the Marriage Act, as that would fulfil all needs and would be fair to everyone.

  161. Grumpy Racist Homophobe

    I notice only two electorates in Victoria voted No. These were centred on Broadmeadows and Dandenong/Springvale. Strong Muslim areas. The left will have to censure Islam. Won’t it?

  162. Viva

    Finally I’ll be able to marry the beagle.

    I’ve already proposed to my poodle. He says he’ll think about it.

  163. Roger

    70% No in Watson.

    Tony Burka has a problem on his hands placating those Muslim homophobes who keep him in the lifestyle to which he’s become accustomed.

  164. max

    What many of us have been trying to do for many years has been based upon a couple of premises. First of all, we have assumed that a majority of Americans basically agrees with our point of view. That has been the premise upon which we have tried to build any number of institutions, and indeed our whole strategy. It is I who suggested to Jerry Falwell that he call his organization the “Moral Majority.” The second premise has been that if we could just elect enough conservatives, we could get our people in as Congressional leaders and they would fight to implement our agenda.

    we got our people elected.
    But that did not result in the adoption of our agenda. The reason, I think, is that politics itself has failed. And politics has failed because of the collapse of the culture. The culture we are living in becomes an ever-wider sewer. In truth, I think we are caught up in a cultural collapse of historic proportions, a collapse so great that it simply overwhelms politics.
    That’s why I am in the process of rethinking what it is that we, who still believe in our traditional, Western, Judeo-Christian culture, can and should do under the circumstances. Please understand that I am not quarreling with anybody who pursues politics, because it is important to pursue politics, to be involved in government. It is also important to try, as many people have, to re-take the cultural institutions that have been captured by the other side.
    But it is impossible to ignore the fact that the United States is becoming an ideological state. The ideology of Political Correctness, which openly calls for the destruction of our traditional culture, has so gripped the body politic, has so gripped our institutions, that it is even affecting the Church. It has completely taken over the academic community. It is now pervasive in the entertainment industry, and it threatens to control literally every aspect of our lives.
    Those who came up with Political Correctness, which we more accurately call “Cultural Marxism,” did so in a deliberate fashion. I’m not going to go into the whole history of the Frankfurt School and Herbert Marcuse and the other people responsible for this. Suffice it to say that the United States is very close to becoming a state totally dominated by an alien ideology, an ideology bitterly hostile to Western culture. Even now, for the first time in their lives, people have to be afraid of what they say. This has never been true in the history of our country. Yet today, if you say the “wrong thing,” you suddenly have legal problems, political problems, you might even lose your job or be expelled from college. Certain topics are forbidden. You can,t approach the truth about a lot of different subjects. If you do, you are immediately branded as “racist”, “sexist”, “homophobic”, “insensitive”, or “judgmental.”
    Cultural Marxism is succeeding in its war against our culture. The question becomes, if we are unable to escape the cultural disintegration that is gripping society, then what hope can we have? Let me be perfectly frank about it. If there really were a moral majority out there, Bill Clinton would have been driven out of office months ago. It is not only the lack of political will on the part of Republicans, although that is part of the problem. More powerful is the fact that what Americans would have found absolutely intolerable only a few years ago, a majority now not only tolerates but celebrates. Americans have adopted, in large measure, the MTV culture that we so valiantly opposed just a few years ago, and it has permeated the thinking of all but those who have separated themselves from the contemporary culture.
    Letter to Conservatives by Paul M. Weyrich
    February 16, 1999

    https://www.nationalcenter.org/Weyrich299.html

  165. Chris

    Sad to report Monty is… on the wrong side of History. That’s it I can say he is on the wrong side of h-History.

    Sob.

  166. monty, Godwin’s Law or not, facts are facts and don’t care about your feelings.

    61.6% baby!

  167. The BigBlueCat

    m0nty
    #2553736, posted on November 15, 2017 at 11:33 am
    Mmyes CL, traditional Catholic marriages are perfect and never result in divorce, child abuse or violence.

    You and Lyle Shelton are massive losers. Society just told you so.

    If SSM doesn’t affect those who disagree with it, how can there be losers??? Just sayin’ ….

    The reality is that 39% percent of Australians voted NO, and that is a large number of people who still disagree. Another reality is that there is a number of ALP electorates that also voted a clear NO (and that’s a problem for Bill Shorten and the ALP). It’s now up to the Australian Federal Parliament to ensure the rights and interests of the 39% are preserved and not lost in the rush to enact a law that a very large number of people are interested in keeping the way it is now.

    Clearly the nation is divided on this very issue – the Government needs to tread very carefully.

  168. Anne

    How so?

    JC, you kidder! 😄

    Blackmail, Money and Murder, of course.

  169. The BigBlueCat

    Roger
    #2553837, posted on November 15, 2017 at 12:13 pm
    70% No in Watson.

    Tony Burka has a problem on his hands placating those Muslim homophobes who keep him in the lifestyle to which he’s become accustomed.

    They’ll just dump him into another electorate …. But I agree, the number of NO outcomes in ALP electorates is a problem for Bill Shorten and the ALP – clearly they are out of touch with their contiuencies ….

  170. Conservatives before today: “Gays are a minority, they don’t get a say, we don’t need to respect them!”

    Conservatives today: “Okay so we are the minority now, we must be respected and our wishes acted upon!”

  171. C.L.

    … traditional Catholic marriages are perfect and never result in divorce, child abuse or violence.

    That’s not what I wrote, Monty.
    (That’s the Monty who once boasted of receiving a personal papal certificate when he was married).
    What I wrote is this:

    As for my “mob,” Monty … I’m a Catholic.
    That homosexuals now get to “marry” in fake state ceremonies in parks and Elvis Chapel ‘o Loves by phony celebrants won’t change Catholic real marriage.
    What it will change is society more generally, especially by placing children in dysfunctional, pretend ‘families,’ brainwashing children in schools and by expediting the diminution of free speech and liberty of conscience, to name just a few of the inevitable pathologies.

    All true. For Catholics, two jokers and a cocker spaniel jumping over a broomstick on Bondi Beach is not a “marriage.” Never has been, never will be. That’s the view of the Catholic Church and the pope.

  172. Ubique

    The Australian reporting:

    Labor MP Terri Butler said she was surprised NSW produced the lowest vote in favour of same-sex marriage while Labor-held seats in western Sydney – including the electorates of Chris Bowen, Jason Clare and Tony Burke – were among the strongest No votes in the nation. “Nobody would have thought that NSW would have the lowest of all of the yes votes, the home of Mardi Gras and such a strong supportive place for marriage equality in Sydney,” Ms Butler told the ABC.

    Butler needs to get out more.

  173. herodotus

    One -way Street Alert
    Will we be able to run the vote again in future years?
    If not, then no repeat of the Republic vote either.

  174. It’s good to see you’re acknowledging change CL, even if you don’t understand it.

  175. C.L.

    You and Lyle Shelton are massive losers.

    Monty wanted Hillary Clinton to be the leader of the Free World.

    JC, we live next door to a gay couple and have several more as friends.

    LOL.

  176. FelixKruell

    mh:

    We have similar stats in Australia, even though SSM wasn’t legalised. Maybe the two aren’t related?

  177. C.L.

    There is no change to the Catholic view of marriage, Monty.
    There is real marriage and then there is gay “marriage.”

  178. The BigBlueCat

    m0nty
    #2553856, posted on November 15, 2017 at 12:21 pm
    Conservatives before today: “Gays are a minority, they don’t get a say, we don’t need to respect them!”

    Conservatives today: “Okay so we are the minority now, we must be respected and our wishes acted upon!”

    39% is technically a minority, but certainly not insignificant. Compare that to the number of LGBTIQ+ people in Australia and see how you go.

  179. JC

    CL

    What’s the broomstick angle? Explain.

  180. The BigBlueCat

    m0nty
    #2553856, posted on November 15, 2017 at 12:21 pm
    Conservatives before today: “Gays are a minority, they don’t get a say, we don’t need to respect them!”

    BTW – this is not a Conservative position, as well you know ….

  181. mh

    mh:

    We have similar stats in Australia, even though SSM wasn’t legalised. Maybe the two aren’t related?

    Maybe. But gay marriage has been the biggest issue pushed by the MSM for years. Along with climate change.

  182. Stimpson J. Cat

    Oh well, BGTL is normalised now.
    Boring.
    What’s next on the agenda?

  183. a reader

    I think this whole thing is ridiculous but I’m proud of western sydney. Not all those places are mussie majority. A lot of those seats are a major mix (eg Fowler). I also suspect that if they allowed a suburb by suburb breakdown you’d find the western end of Hughes would be in the same category as the rest of Western Sydney.

    Now the question is how do ALP members vote? If they’re truly passionate about homosexual hoedowns how will that square with their electorate that clearly aren’t?

  184. There is no change to the Catholic view of marriage, Monty.
    There is real marriage and then there is gay “marriage.”

    The Church doesn’t get to set the rules any more, CL.

  185. Gab

    What’s next on the agenda?

    Legalising ped0philia and polygamy because ‘love is love’.

  186. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    What’s next on the agenda?

    A referendum to recognise Aborigines in the Constitution, an advisory body to Parliament, and a treaty with each of the five hundred or so “First Nations.” Do try and keep up, Stimpy, there’s a good chap.

  187. Gab

    The Church doesn’t get to set the rules any more, CL.

    Yes, it does as far as the rules of the Church go, you idiot.

  188. Bruce of Newcastle

    Conservatives before today: “Gays are a minority, they don’t get a say, we don’t need to respect them!”

    You are lying again M0nty.
    Christians respect gay people by denying them marriage to people of the same sex. That is agape-love. Would you let someone go to terrible torture for eternity without opposing that? You are so heartless as to do that are you M0nty?

    Conservatives have been pushing for a referendum, then a plebiscite, then an ABS poll the whole time. that gives a voice to both sides. It was the Left who opposed giving a voice to the people.

  189. I think this whole thing is ridiculous but I’m proud of western sydney. Not all those places are mussie majority. A lot of those seats are a major mix (eg Fowler).

    This is a good point made by a reader. The biggest No votes tended to come in Muslim enclaves. The only real friends that CL and other conservative Catholics have on this issue are in the Islamic community. This visualisation includes a drop-down option to sort by secular/no religion, and it appears to be a fairly strong correlation.

    The likes of CL and dover_beach are standing on this issue with radical Muslim clerics, and pretty much no one else.

  190. Atoms for Peace

    Don’t know if Mal will have his wish and have it through by Christmas. Maybe by Eid if he’s lucky.

  191. The Deplorable Barking Toad

    51.16% of eligible voters didn’t vote yes

  192. stackja

    Next elderly taking too much care budget. So end quickly.

  193. Chris

    What’s the broomstick angle? Explain.

    If you need explaining what two men and a beagle get up to, you should ask them yourself.

  194. Gab

    The likes of CL and dover_beach are standing on this issue with radical Muslim clerics, and pretty much no one else.

    The hyperbole continues.

    Monty now declares CL and Dover want homos put to death.

    More of that ‘love is love’ bile from monty. Predictable.

  195. C.L.

    51.16% of eligible voters didn’t vote yes

    Interesting.

  196. herodotus

    ABC doing a mixed bag of vox pops.
    Someone in Dalby says No voters are just ignorant.
    Someone from elsewhere fears the inevitable “backlash” – yeah, just like the terrible conservatives tactics during the so-called campaign. Note: as already canvassed above, this result has been campaigned for by the media and various pressure groups for years.

  197. Bruce of Newcastle

    So M0nty do you think that the muslims should be legally allowed to refuse service to a same sex wedding? Are you a bigot M0nty?

  198. Frank

    we live next door to a gay couple and have several more as friends.

    Wonder if they appreciate being used as tick marks on that diversity checklist and acting as debating points for you.

  199. herodotus

    How do the Yes people feel about the Brexit vote now? The Trump election?

  200. John64

    At last some good news for Mick Trumble.

    A flurry of homosexual marriages in 2018 generating a sodomy driven economic stimulus.

  201. C.L.

    The likes of CL and dover_beach are standing on this issue with radical Muslim clerics, and pretty much no one else.

    Pope says marriage can only be between a man and a woman and ‘we cannot change it’.

  202. a reader

    I thought my reputation had been slandered when I realised monty agreed with me…then i realised he’d totally misinterpreted what i said. reputation restored

  203. Anne

    Legalising ped0philia and polygamy because ‘love is love’.

    France is currently pushing Age of Consent to be lowered to 13.

    There’s a reason 13 year olds can’t drive cars or enter into legal contracts.

    It’s because they’re CHILDREN!!!

  204. New Chum

    The no voters should remain positive 38.4% is better than the result
    for preferred prime minster 36-34

  205. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    NATIONAL AFFAIRS
    Same-sex marriage: Labor’s political headache in western Sydney

    The Australian
    12:36PM November 15, 2017

    Olivia Caisley
    Reporter
    Sydney
    @livcaisley

    NSW Labor MPs face a political headache as the state returned the lowest Yes vote in the nation, which means the wishes of voters in at least nine Sydney electorates may be ignored by their MPs in Parliament.

    NSW recorded the lowest Yes vote in Australia with most of the 17 electorates in Sydney’s western, northwestern and southwestern suburbs, predominantly Labor, voting against same-sex marriage. Many of these electorates are ethnically diverse.

    The Sydney Labor electorates of Barton, Blaxland, Chifley, Fowler, Greenway, McMahon, Parramatta, Watson and Werriwa all recorded No votes.

    However, Labor’s Linda Burney for Barton, Jason Clare for Blaxland, Ed Husic for Chifley, Michelle Rowland for Greenway, Chris Bowen for McMahon, Julie Owens for Parramatta, Tony Burke for Watson and Anne Stanley for Werriwa, have all said they would vote Yes for a same-sex marriage bill.

    From the Oz. Interesting dilemma – the electorate votes “No”, the Libor representative votes “Yes.” Let’s see them spin their way out of that one…

  206. Andreas

    The likes of CL and dover_beach are standing on this issue with radical Muslim clerics, and pretty much no one else.

    So now m0nty admits all Muslim clerics are radical? Interesting.

  207. Natural Instinct

    YES vote
    .
    Canberra(d) 74.1 ALP
    Newcastle 74.8 ALP
    Warringah 75.0 LP
    Goldstein 76.3 LP
    Griffith 76.6 LNP
    Higgins 78.3 LP
    Brisbane 79.5 ALP
    Grayndler 79.9 LP
    Wentworth 80.8 LP
    Melbourne Ports 82.0 ALP
    Sydney 83.7 ALP
    Melbourne 83.7 LP

  208. Louis

    I don’t think the YES crowd are going to like the concessions the ALP are now going to have to give those NO voting electorates to maintain their block votes.

  209. John Comnenus

    The gay lobby would do very well to take a close look at the electorates that voted no in the vote. All of them by my reckoning are very high immigration electorates. High immigration is probably not overly good for gay rights and tolerance.

  210. mh

    At last some good news for Mick Trumble.

    A flurry of homosexual marriages in 2018 generating a sodomy driven economic stimulus.

    Anal and innovative economy.

  211. Seco

    If the result was reversed the No voters would be rejoicing on here. It’s a landslide. We have to accept that even if we disagree with it.

    I’m still perplexed why the Libs had to do Labor’s heavy lifting here but the answer probably lies in the high % of no vote areas and Labor’s dependence on them.

  212. The likes of CL and dover_beach are standing on this issue with radical Muslim clerics, and pretty much no one else.

    According to Monty, about 4.9M ‘No’ voters constitute ‘pretty much no one else’.

  213. herodotus

    Interesting dilemma – the electorate votes “No”, the Libor representative votes “Yes.” Let’s see them spin their way out of that one…

    Quite so – they were all arguing that the politicians should vote for ssm in parliament because “that’s what their electorates want.”

  214. C.L.

    Labor will disenfranchise brown people in parliament.
    Interesting.

  215. Viva

    Presumably gays all over Australia will be toasting the result with “bottoms up”.

  216. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    France is currently pushing Age of Consent to be lowered to 13.

    We have had several here pushing that this week too, all to try and support Roy Moore.

  217. So M0nty do you think that the muslims should be legally allowed to refuse service to a same sex wedding? Are you a bigot M0nty?

    No.

  218. stackja

    Member of parliament: Ed Husic’s voters voted No.

  219. Natural Instinct

    They say the Liberal Party is a ‘broad church’, but the Laborites are broader. One extreme to another.
    .
    or does that just mean they are a better political party if they can hold onto votes at both ends of the spectrum.

  220. Empire GTHO Phase III

    Yessers didn’t have to advertise. ABC, SBS, Ten, Nine, Seven, ABC radio etc etc etc.
    Like I said, given that it was virtually illegal to advocate the No case, the figure is surprisingly lame.
    Yessers thought it would be 99.9 percent.

    Various public bodies and their officers, all funded by taxes, campaigned in favour. Those responsible should be executed in due course for their egregious corruption.

  221. Sean

    51.16% of eligible voters didn’t vote yes

    And 61.7% of the eligible voters didn’t vote No …. and 60.38% more people voted Yes than No. Brilliant maths right? Still a massive win for the Yes vote.

  222. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Penny Wong was very emotional today.

    She must have had a flashback to all those times she voted against ssm.

  223. The Deplorable Barking Toad

    Of the 12,727,920 votes that were returned (out of 16,006,180) 36,686 were apparently regarded as informal.

  224. Seco

    I assume Penny Wong will be getting “married” now?

  225. Natural Instinct

    When is a participation rate too high?

    Boothby 84.1
    Higgins 84.2
    Deakin 84.4
    Berowra 84.5
    Ryan 84.5
    Corangamite 84.8
    Jagajaga 85.0
    Grayndler 85.0
    Kooyong 85.7
    Goldstein 85.8

  226. Penny Wong was very emotional today.

    She must have had a flashback to all those times she voted against ssm.

    Quite. She is a fraud.

  227. Natural Instinct

    When is a participation rate too high?

    Boothby 84.1
    Higgins 84.2
    Deakin 84.4
    Berowra 84.5
    Ryan 84.5
    Corangamite 84.8
    Jagajaga 85.0
    Grayndler 85.0
    Kooyong 85.7
    Goldstein 85.8

  228. Atoms for Peace

    Good turnout. Now, explain to me why we need compulsory voting ??
    Still pisses me off that money is attached to each vote, thus politicians won’t vote against it, as they have a
    pecuniary interest in receiving said monies. Thought there was something in the constitution ’bout that..

  229. Stimpson J. Cat

    36,686 were apparently regarded as informal.

    Yet again, let down by Ethnics who can’t even tick a box properly.

  230. Bruce of Newcastle

    If the result was reversed the No voters would be rejoicing on here. It’s a landslide. We have to accept that even if we disagree with it.

    Incorrect. The answer is not to ask that question. The question which should’ve been asked is “should the word marriage be removed from the Marriage Act so that all legal unions can be equally treated under Australian law?”

    Keep in mind that the recent poll found that Australians overwhelmingly want religious freedom to be protected:

    Same-sex marriage must protect religious freedom: Newspoll (August)

    Asked if parliament should provide legal guarantees for freedom of conscience, belief and ­religion if same-sex marriage were legislated, 62 per cent of voters agreed, 18 per cent disagreed, and 20 per cent were uncommitted.

    So Turnbull is declaring manifest destiny with 62% saying yes to SSM in the postal poll but refuses to provide freedom of conscience provisions with 62% saying yes in a Newspoll question.

    I think that firmly comes under the heading of “hypocrisy”.

    Removing “marriage” from the Marriage Act would’ve met both requirements fairly.

  231. iain russell

    Australia remains an enclave of pale male/female etc privilege. We will never be Asia literate when this kind of bourgeois tosh is inflicted on the non-lalies in our society. Nothing but scorn and derision from Asia I am afraid. White trash indeed.

  232. Rabz

    Just while we’re on the Watson electorate – I notice the stupid.frigging.gliberals’ candidate there last election was a bloke(?) by the name of Mohammed.

    Slimy expedient sh*theads. As bad as bloody labor and the greenfilth.

  233. GP

    It would be great fun if labor – with its eyes on the Western Sydney electorates – voted it down in parliament on some trivial matter. Of course, the headline would be: “LNP stalls on SSM bill.”

  234. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I assume Penny Wong will be getting “married” now?

    She’ll be racing Christine Forster and Magda Whats her name to the altar, surely?

  235. notafan

    Just think about the gays who have been all marriage equality! now being pressured by their partners to name a date but don’t actually want to marry that particular person.

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