Open Forum: November 18, 2017

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  1. .

    Remember,

    Dorsey became wealthy because of twitter, but it will not be around forever. Cheer up.

  2. Eyrie

    Do we need to invade NZ? Anschluss!

  3. pete m

    yellow clashes with the lifesavers flags

  4. Infidel Tiger

    WITHIN hours of the same-sex marriage announcement on Wednesday, an outspoken No voter who owns a beauty salon in Perth was floored by a gay wedding request. Belinda received a booking inquiry on her salon’s Facebook page from gay couple Brad and Chris for “a full body wax to make our honeymoon extra special”.

    I’ll wax them for you Belinda. The only cornholing they will able to do afterwards will require a general anaesthetic.

  5. John Constantine

    American navy has number five big boat prang for the year, destroyer and Japanese tugboat. No deaths, no sinking.

    Their Hussein Obama’s plan to transform the navy into a Stalinist force for social engineering, as copied by Australian elites is showing up in diversity quotas meaning ships can’t be driven from one place to another without going oops, giggle.

    Australia simply can’t get our diversity boats to float, (except at the Mardi Gras).

  6. I went to a 30th birthday party last night, the compulsory fancy dress theme was “Mexican”.
    Lots of bankers, finance types, professionals, and all university-educated.
    To my immense surprise, those who came as Donald Trump or a wall were greeted with genuine good humour and not an anti-Trump comment was heard.
    Ongoing conversations through the night showed a surprising amount of anti-PC thought amongst that crowd.
    Perhaps there is more steel in this age group than I believed.

  7. Senile Old Guy

    Tasmania is the least multicultural state in Australia, but it is hoped better community integration will help keep new migrant families on the island. The Migrant Resource Centre in Tasmania is responsible for helping new refugees arriving under the Humanitarian Settlement Program find their feet. Last week two African families arrived in Hobart to start their new lives.

    And what does the Migrant Resource Centre do?

    The centre’s Conrad Gilbey runs an induction course which will help the families adjust to life in Tasmania over an 18-month period. Mr Gilbey has been showing the families how to find a house, get a bank account, and register with Centrelink.

    But of course!

  8. .

    Anschluss? I prefer a “Greater South Pacific Co-Prosperity Sphere”…

  9. She should do the body waxing. It is arguably separable from the ‘wedding’, but the request is obviously a goad. I would, if I were her, goad them in reverse about the faux marriage the were about to enter into.

  10. Myrddin Seren

    “Nobody protested when I won.”

    Fact Check: ‘You’ didn’t win.

    National Party 44.4% of the vote 56 seats

    Jacinda Socialist Party 36.9% of the vote 46 seats.

    ‘You’ were made the diversity win by Winston Peters and The Greens.

    Disclaimer: I get that that former President of the International Union of Socialist Youth is less concerned about accuracy and more about advancing the Revolution, Comrades.

  11. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I’ll wax them for you Belinda. The only cornholing they will able to do afterwards will require a general anaesthetic.

    I would have thought that any beautician would know the techniques of making a full body wax, an experience that no – one in their right mind would ever want to repeat, indeed.

  12. Senile Old Guy

    I would, if I were her, goad them in reverse about the faux marriage the were about to enter into.

    Sorry, db, but that’s hate speech. Shame on you!

  13. .

    Ongoing conversations through the night showed a surprising amount of anti-PC thought amongst that crowd.
    Perhaps there is more steel in this age group than I believed.

    I put it down to Gen Y and Millenials are being red-pilled at pace. Also, people with STEM, law or commerce quals who get out of universities are usually libertarian-leaning conservatives.

    Find someone between 25-40 who actually watches CNN for example – I have a mate who watches Anderson Cooper just so he can get angry and rant. He is the only one.

    Apart from some fairly young power level 9000 betas, younger guys only joke about privilege and other BS.

  14. Stimpson J. Cat

    Happy Man’s Day Men!!!!!!!!

  15. feelthebern

    “Nobody protested when I won.”

    Because everyone who wanted to had to go to work.

  16. .

    Career decisions…

    Family law lawyer for gay divorces or get a Cert IV in Marriage Celebrancy and open up a “tolerant gay wedding chapel”…opportunities abound. I’d discriminate to piss off feminists, of course, I’d charge in partial BTC or grams of gold per kg of the bride and groom….I suspect lesbians would pay more than gays on average. Imagine the payoff when Andrea Dworkin rolls up with the love of her life…

    A young carpetbagger also might consider Zimbabwe, particularly to electrical engineers. When the regime falls, I suspect the junta that cleans it up wants secure and not intermittent power…

  17. feelthebern

    Old School, maybe one thing to remember is that a lot of Gen X & Y’s – even though they may work for a firm now – increasingly, they know they have to work for themselves to create real wealth.
    With that understanding comes realism.
    Corporate group think & the associated social engineering becomes abhorrent after a while.
    Hence the steel you observed.

  18. Infidel Tiger

    On returning to Sydney I have noticed (this morning) at the local beach that the Nippers movement has changed the traditional blue “ rashers” to pink!

    I have just sent my son off to nippers – blue top.

  19. I put it down to Gen Y and Millenials are being red-pilled at pace

    Funniest comment of the night from a lovely young woman – “When I get told I have reached my health fund’s limit for a specific treatment, I just pull out my boyfriend’s card and tell them I identify as him for the day. Treatment recommences.”

  20. Combine Dave

    And what does the Migrant Resource Centre do?

    The centre’s Conrad Gilbey runs an induction course which will help the families adjust to life in Tasmania over an 18-month period. Mr Gilbey has been showing the families how to find a house, get a bank account, and register with Centrelink.

    But of course!

    Wait what…

    I thought these were our future engineers and scientists?

  21. .

    Young professionals aren’t your Socialist Alliance anti-corporate protestors, but they’ve had enough of HR (affirmative action for women) and APS losers infecting the for-profit private sector with their nonsense such as childish job interview questions written by the genuinely mentally ill, buzz words inherited from the PS such as “ownership” and incompetent psychotic turds taking credit for their work. Not to mention some boomers infecting everyone else with their full-blown communist ideals and desire to still live in million dollar luxury homes.

    Just watch Cappy on Corporate America and HR. Some mild swearing.

  22. feelthebern

    I’ve got a payroll of 7 staff now.
    We’re putting on another staff member now.
    Initial interview (that thank fuck I’ve delegated to someone else) goes for approx 20mins.
    The only question that I demand get asked is the Peter Thiel one:
    “Tell me something that you know to be true, that no one else agrees with you about”.
    Horse shit answer means, thanks no thanks.
    Decent, unfiltered answer means, you might just work out.

    Amazing how the crazier the answer/topic, usually means a great candidate.

  23. Frank

    Old School Conservative,

    I think the operative word there was 30th. The twenty somethings, in particular the severely educated ones, are an abomination.

  24. Shy Ted

    “Nobody protested when I won.” Adern reportedly said to Trump.
    From the land of the long white teeth.

  25. Joe

    “Tell me something that you know to be true, that no one else agrees with you about”.

    This is exactly the type of shit question you get when the employer is more interested in who you are rather than what you can do.

  26. Shy Ted

    re the Abbariginal Green from Northcote. Don’t know Victoria, what sort of person, other than stupid ones, reside in this electorate? And when will the firestick farming commence?

  27. Rafe

    Glancing at the cover of the New Statesman leftwing rag amazingly still on sale, OMG Drastic changes required or we will have a world without animals.
    I suppose we will just have to eat Greens.

  28. zyconoclast

    The stunning victory for Greens candidate Lidia Thorpe will also put the first indigenous woman into Victoria’s parliament.

    At least she has a better tan than Di Natale (and his au pairs)

  29. feelthebern

    Yeah Joe, that’s exactly what someone who’s equity is on the line wants.
    It’s exactly the opposite of what some APS or corporate wage slave wants to hear.

  30. .

    bern

    That’s a good tactic but you might be pissing off some plain-spoken kid with a good attitude.

    Decent, unfiltered answer means, you might just work out.

    I like. Apparently, Mac Bank used to trap people like this. I like this level of fuckery; use HR tactics to weed out people that HR elsewhere would tick and flick. They’d ask you a question about a certain stock and just get people to talk utter shit for as long as they could.

    No one wants to be asked “if you were an animal, what animal would you be?”.

    I hope you don’t tell them that work isn’t about money. That is rolled gold spivery.

  31. Empire GTHO Phase III

    re the Abbariginal Green from Northcote. Don’t know Victoria, what sort of person, other than stupid ones, reside in this electorate? And when will the firestick farming commence?

    Northcote is an inner Melbourne seat. Once traditional working class, property prices are now right up there.

    The electorate is populated by an assortment of marxists, leninists, trotskyists, stalinists, maoists, fabians, feminazis, homosexualists, tax hooverers and unclassified leftards.

    The result was no surprise. Don’t expect firestick farming because CO2 vilification trumps traditional owners.

  32. Tom

    I’ve stopped watching Their Sky News*, including Blot’s nightly TV opinion show (and his radio show), but I’ll be watching the first week of Peta Credlin’s new 6pm weeknight news and analysis show starting tomorrow on her promise that its primary job will be to fill the vacuum left by the Canberra press gallery’s abandonment of the public interest and that her show will actually report and analyse the news without barracking for the left. It can’t be any worse than Nein News (even though Nein’s replacement of Jabba the Hut by Chris Uhlmann has considerably improved the Canberra product, its US coverage is a disgrace).
    *Except for Outsiders on Sunday.

  33. Top Ender

    Today is the anniversary of the sinking of HMAS Sydney in action against the German raider Kormoran off the Western Australian coast.

    Remember the 645 men lost from Sydney – more lives lost than in Australia’s entire Viet Nam war engagement.

    (One of my articles, with some good pix.)

  34. Empire GTHO Phase III

    Glancing at the cover of the New Statesman leftwing rag amazingly still on sale, OMG Drastic changes required or we will have a world without animals.
    I suppose we will just have to eat Greens.

    I refuse cannibalism, Rafe.

    Greens will be used to fertilise the pastures that feed the cows that Empire eats.

  35. feelthebern

    Nah, dot.
    We tell them that success is learning as much as you can then going and getting a better job.
    & you only make real money when you stop working for someone else.
    Payroll gone from 3 to 7 in two years since I bought in/took over.
    No leavers yet.

  36. zyconoclast

    Victorian households to be slugged by energy price rises between 10 and 20 per cent

    Told you so.

    Serves you right, you morons.

    Come the next election, odds on the Victoriastanis will be lining up for more child molesting Safe Schools action, thrown in with exorbitantly priced unreliable power.

  37. zyconoclast

    Tim Wilson falsely suggesting the LNP have plenty to defend. He obviously thinks that they stand for something.

    Technically buggery and safe schools are some things.

  38. feelthebern

    Classic Macq bank question.
    I know because I used to work there.
    If you were a tree, what kind of tree would you be?
    True story.

    My first manager at Macq said the only reason I got my first interview because I said I liked Star Trek on my resume.
    Sometimes it works out to just tell the truth.

  39. .

    We tell them that success is learning as much as you can then going and getting a better job
    & you only make real money when you stop working for someone else.

    Good advice.

  40. Boambee John

    dover_beach
    #2557914, posted on November 19, 2017 at 11:05 am
    She should do the body waxing.

    Not an expert on the subject, but I suspect that it could be made very painful, and a “full body” job should have a “special” price, not subject to negotiation.

  41. Pedro the Ignorant

    Godalmighty.

    Sunday morning coffee and a quick squiz at the Cat to see what’s happening, and I find out that such a thing as a “full body wax” actually exists and some homos are gagging to have it done.

    I am going for a walk.

  42. Geriatric Mayfly

    “Nobody protested when I won.” Adern reportedly said to Trump.

    Because you only won a chook raffle after a protest. No one cares.

  43. Dot;

    I’d charge in partial BTC or grams of gold per kg

    Charge by Body Surface Area.
    You’re a winner!

  44. Infidel Tiger

    “If I was a tree I’d be the type of tree that would drop a branch on you and your family while you were picnicking in my shade. They’d all die except you. You would live the rest of your life grieving and shell shocked, never knowing love.”

    Now give me the damn job.

  45. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Sometimes it works out to just tell the truth.

    Went to one job interview, way back when.

    Well into the interview, I’d decided I didn’t want the position, by the time I was asked

    “What are your faults?”

    “Telling lies at job interviews.”

  46. H B Bear

    Nothing gets you integrated into the failed state of Tasmania community faster than registering for Centrelink. If you show real aptitude you can become Premier and extend your welfare hunting skills to Canberra.

  47. Boambee John

    Rafe at 1140

    I suppose we will just have to eat Greens.

    “Now Billy, you know there is no dessert until you eat your Greens”.

    More seriously, if the Greens and other “progressives” get their way and restrict farming for meat, watch for a swathe to be cut through local wildlife. Bye bye scrub turkeys, possums, echidnas, small wallabies first, then on to anything else that moves!

  48. calli

    One of the graduate assessors at MacBank confessed to me that her best appointment was a fairly average student who got busted at school for running a book. 😃

  49. notafan

    Good point DB about the waxing, it isn’t the wedding make up.

    Foolish to start refusing services that have the most tenuous links to a ssmarriage.

    By the way I’m a bit bemused by Christians doing’ full body waxing’, especially of opposite sex intimate zones.

    Plenty of places do not in fact provide that service, for good reason.

  50. Boambee John;

    More seriously, if the Greens and other “progressives” get their way and restrict farming for meat, watch for a swathe to be cut through local wildlife. Bye bye scrub turkeys, possums, echidnas, small wallabies first, then on to anything else that moves!

    Australia will then be populated by only humans and emus.
    No cooking vessel can withstand the heat that is required to soften emu meat to edible standards.

  51. .

    That’s called hustle, calli.

    I felt the same way about those stupid questions to. I always wanted to answer “where will you be in five years time” with “on a yacht doing coke off supermodels shapely butts and shooting minke whale calves with solid gold AK-47s…”

  52. herodotus

    … I’ll be watching the first week of Peta Credlin’s new 6pm weeknight news and analysis show starting tomorrow on her promise that its primary job will be to fill the vacuum left by the Canberra press gallery …

    Excellent! Couldn’t get enthused while she had to share with Keneally.
    It’s still a mystery how Sky arrived at the decision to give Nick Reece a show.

  53. marcus classis

    Pedro:

    and I find out that such a thing as a “full body wax” actually exists and some homos are gagging to have it done.

    So they both look like hairless 10 year old boys when sodomising each other.

    Nothing peddo about that at all, is there?

  54. Myrddin Seren

    Bye bye scrub turkeys

    Blechh !

    You can have my share of those disgusting, parasite-ridden blocks of sinew.

  55. I went pricing plans for the new network coming in the early new year.
    Three that I spoke to demand you buy a new router from them, mainly because they have configured their networks to reject use by any router not supplied by them.
    This seems to be a gimmick to make me pay for a new router costing $250+ instead of using my own that cost less than $100 – and my own is labelled NBN ready.
    Any advice?

  56. If you want lotsa high protein food- How about we go get us a whale or two?

  57. Any advice?

    Get a sat dish and tell them to fsck off.

  58. feelthebern

    Lol.
    That wasn’t me Calli.
    However a couple of the best Macq bankers I know didn’t disclose criminal records.
    Drink driving etc.
    Once it came to light, it was a case of who cares.
    I imagine with instantaneous police checks that loop hole is long gone.

  59. Joe

    Winston, most of the larger ISP’s will allow you to use your own router, provided it’s compatible. If an ISP is insisting on the use of their router, then the NBN ombudsman is your friend. Already got the ISP’s to backdown on speed issues.

  60. Makka

    I didn’t have my licence so long when I first saw ACDC at a pub west of Sydney. Bon of course was with them then. Awesome doesn’t describe the gig well enough. Angus and Malcolm ripped the place apart, shredded it.

    RIP Mal. You gifted so many good times to so many people.

  61. Myrddin Seren

    Please make the insanity stop !

    “Dark Fang” is the story of Valla, a vampire who realizes that climate change is going to wipe out her food supply … humans. So she sets out to take down the fossil fuel industry.”

    ( Stimpy – carry on as normal – errrr – as usual. Whatevs )

  62. notafan

    It’s a Labor party dilemna that is just going to get worse

    We can see that the places that voted ‘No’ were often urban or periurban areas with large populations of people who gave “Islam” or “Hindu” as their religion in the 2016 Census. There are exceptions to this, of course, including the electorate of Banks (which includes suburbs like Padstow, Revesby and Oatley), Bennelong, which has a large population of recent Asian migrants, and Mitchell, which includes the Hills District in northwestern Sydney, which is where the Hillsong Church is based.


    Who voted no

  63. Snoopy

    Seems you can do burnouts, with police approval, if you are celebrating a Lebanese wedding?

    Only if the car isn’t reported stolen.


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  65. H B Bear

    If you’re at a Leb wedding in a car that still has its own plates you’re at the wrong wedding.

  66. notafan

    Verum media have another video up of a ME looking gentleman overpainting a disrespectful mural, this time Christ holding the Eucharist? while wearing a rainbow sash.

  67. John Constantine

    http://www.animalsaustralia.org/events/?event=334

    Their melbourne pig save, and their melbourne chicken save, unite.

    Safety is meant to be behind the zero tolerance chain of responsibility that is crushing owner drivers of heavy vehicles.

    Funny enough, it seems vicpol has been instructed to allow wymynsys protestors to throw themselves, sobbing in hysteria, at trucks carting stock to meatworks.

    Allowing activists to fiddle with fuel caps, to scream at truckies and to thrust their arms into loaded stocktrucks “to let the pigs feel loved for just two minutes before being murdered” is progressing vegan Stalinism, so is a non-crime.

  68. Shy Ted

    Thanks Empire. As expected.

  69. Snoopy

    Mmm. Roast picken for Xmas dinner.

  70. egg_

    “Nobody protested when I won.” Adern reportedly said to Trump.
    From the land of the long white teeth.

    That’s a keeper – it was hilarious watching one of the lasses on Studio 10 trying to explain to another how such a mouth could be scary to a male…

  71. egg_

    If you’re at a Leb wedding in a car that still has its own plates you’re at the wrong wedding.

    Chocka with rebirthed beemers from Lord Wentworth’s electorate.

  72. Empire

    I went pricing plans for the new network coming in the early new year.
    Three that I spoke to demand you buy a new router from them, mainly because they have configured their networks to reject use by any router not supplied by them.
    This seems to be a gimmick to make me pay for a new router costing $250+ instead of using my own that cost less than $100 – and my own is labelled NBN ready.
    Any advice?

    Ask to be put through to their Legal Counsel for a chat about the Competition and Consumer Act. Then the Corporate Affairs Manager for a chat about reputation and trust. Be a polite squeaky wheel. If you cop smartarses, try “I’ve listened patiently, but I’m not getting any satisfaction from you. Let me be clear I possess the commitment and resources to make your life misery. Now let’s start again.”

    If that doesn’t work – go the ombudsman as Joe suggested.

  73. egg_

    “to let the pigs feel loved for just two minutes before being murdered”

    Bush pig love is love.

  74. Boambee John

    Winston at 1206

    Australia will then be populated by only humans and emus.
    No cooking vessel can withstand the heat that is required to soften emu meat to edible standards.

    The old recipe for crow will come into its own, until all the stones have been eaten!

  75. egg_

    “Dark Fang” is the story of Valla, a vampire who realizes that climate change is going to wipe out her food supply … humans. So she sets out to take down the fossil fuel industry.”

    Dark Fang battles ManBearPig?

  76. Mater

    No cooking vessel can withstand the heat that is required to soften emu meat to edible standards.

    True, but they are superior Yabby bait!

  77. Verum media have another video up of a ME looking gentleman overpainting a disrespectful mural, this time Christ holding the Eucharist? while wearing a rainbow sash.

    They asked for this. If they thought we’d curl up in a ball they were wrong.

  78. egg_

    “Nobody protested when I won.” Adern reportedly said to Trump.

    Because you only won a chook raffle after a protest. No one cares.

    No one noticed the minority gummint.

  79. marcus classis

    No cooking vessel can withstand the heat that is required to soften emu meat to edible standards

    Sliced into small strips across the grain and curried in a pressure cooker. Just like they do with the crap meat they get in Asia.

    Works like a charm. Also the curry takes that odd oily sort of aftertaste away.

    Also works for any tough meat. I can recommend the Breville pressure cooker. Great piece of kit.

  80. Geriatric Mayfly

    if you are celebrating a Lebanese wedding?

    The more subtle aspects of cultural diversity escape me at times. Do Lebs hang the wedding sheets from the balcony next morning so that there will be nods of approval from the old scrags and no loose talk about the town.

  81. marcus classis

    Good God!

    lefties, tell me again how only whiteys can be racist!

    89-year-old White World War II veteran suffocates to death while Black nurses laugh at him

    (Originally from 11 Alive (NBC) Atlanta, 11-14-17)

  82. egg_

    “Dark Fang” is the story of Valla, a vampire who realizes that climate change is going to wipe out her food supply … humans. So she sets out to take down the fossil fuel industry.”

    Is Ardern to play Valla – with her big fangs and extra pussy claws?

  83. marcus classis

    And in mohammedan naughtiness…. FRANCE: Two Muslims barge into French Monastery during services and demand that all the nuns convert to Islam, the savages are brave enough to attack Carmelite Nuns.

    Such heroes, the followers of the kiddiefiddling peddoprophet.

  84. rickw

    Seems you can do burnouts, with police approval, if you are celebrating a Lebanese wedding?

    Could Australian Police be any more shit?

  85. H B Bear

    Thanks for coming. Even better than Danny Green’s win against some down on his luck invalid pensioner in WA some years back. Roy and HG said he was knocked out by the low pressure created by Green’s gloves as it sailed past his head.

  86. Leigh Lowe

    Gee, I wonder why the usual suspects would want to get a foothold in the Nippers.

    They already had.
    Channel Nine’s Ben McCormack (of child pron fame) was a keen trainer of nippers at a Sydney SLSC.

  87. C.L.

    Verum media have another video up of a ME looking gentleman overpainting a disrespectful mural

    Video here.
    Well done, that man.

  88. marcus classis

    Interesting to watch the strong revival of nationalist values in Poland. One article free of ABC-style proglodyte hysteria about “German National Socialists” forming the Polish nationalist movement is here.

    What I find most interesting about observing the explosive growth of Polish nationalist movements is teh video and photographs. Look at the age of the men and women involved in public Polish nationalist displays, marches and activism.

    Millennials. Swarms and swarms of practising, Catholic millennials.

  89. Geriatric Mayfly

    Seems you can do burnouts, with police approval, if you are celebrating a Lebanese wedding?
    Could Australian Police be any more shit?

    Rather lame really. What about the traditional rite of pumping bullets into the air from an arsenal of weapons? I forgot. ‘Elf ‘n’ safety. I recall a bloke in one of the ME ratholes being killed by a falling bullet during one of their quaint gatherings. The police would frown on that being a possibility.

  90. marcus classis

    C.L.
    #2558011, posted on November 19, 2017 at 1:14 pm
    Verum media have another video up of a ME looking gentleman overpainting a disrespectful mural

    Video here.
    Well done, that man.

    yes indeed. I like Maronites. That bloke just earned himself huge kudos at his CHurch.

  91. Myrddin Seren

    What about the traditional rite of pumping bullets into the air from an arsenal of weapons?

    They started early.

  92. Joe

    The police would frown on that being a possibility.

    The ‘police’ would retreat to a distance regulated by health and safety to avoid the falling projectiles and then tsk tsk that they don’t have the power to shut down and arrest the people who complained about the activity under the current crime act. Then they would demand new powers which they will refuse to use against criminals but take extra delight in inflicting on law abiding citizens.

  93. mh

    Apple’s diversity chief steps down only six months into the job after she was slammed for saying that a room full of ’12 white, blue-eyed, blonde men’ can be diverse

    Colleagues,

    I have always been proud to work for Apple in large part because of our steadfast commitment to creating an inclusive culture. We are also committed to having the most diverse workforce and our work in this area has never been more important. In fact, I have dedicated my twenty years at Apple to fostering and promoting opportunity and access for women, people of color and the underserved and unheard.

    Last week, while attending a summit in Bogota, I made some comments as part of a conversation on the many factors that contribute to diversity and inclusion.

    I regret the choice of words I used to make this point. I understand why some people took offense. My comments were not representative of how I think about diversity or how Apple sees it. For that, I’m sorry.

    More importantly, I want to assure you Apple’s view and our dedication to diversity has not changed.

    Understanding that diversity includes women, people of color, LGBTQ people, and all underrepresented minorities is at the heart of our work to create an environment that is inclusive of everyone.

    Our commitment at Apple to increasing racial and gender diversity is as strong as it’s ever been. I’m proud of the progress we’ve made, but there is much work to be done. I’m continually reminded of the importance of talking about these issues and learning from each other.

    Best,

    Denise

    How on earth could someone have reached the position that this lady had without understanding that white men are evil? It’s in their DNA!

  94. C.L.

    Slippery slope!
    ‘Libertarian’ Tim Wilson warns against giving freedom to Christians.

    Mr Wilson said Parliament should be “very careful” about separately debating religious protections next year, saying this would push Australia towards having a bill of rights.

    “It’s an oddity to see many people who identify as conservative or socially conservative, who have traditionally opposed a bill of rights or charter of rights, now prosecuting this cause.”

  95. H B Bear

    Tim Wilson is a greater disappointment than Lord Wentworth. Discuss with reference to the impending destruction of the Lieboral Party.

  96. Delta A

    I’ve always been a fan of Smokin’ Joe.

    Vale.

  97. mh

    Anyone that appeared as a regular panelist with Peter Van Onselen can never be trusted.

  98. Gab

    Wo0ndering when some “brave” graffiti “artist” is going to paint a mural of mohammed with a rainbow sash on a wall in Lakemba.

  99. marcus classis

    H B Bear
    #2558028, posted on November 19, 2017 at 1:38 pm
    Tim Wilson is a greater disappointment than Lord Wentworth. Discuss with reference to the impending destruction of the Lieboral Party.

    Nope. Entirely predictable.

    This is an issue which might somehow affect Wilsons arsehole.

    Wilson was always going to regard his arsehole as infinitely more important that any of that stupid “values”, “morals” or “ethics” garbage.

  100. calli

    I enjoyed the spectacle of wymmyn doing battle with their phones. Also the mouthy one “it’s not religious you idiot” – no, no, not religious at all. The guy was clearly in a fancy bathrobe and he suffered from hydrocephaly. He even had a little bottle of pills for the condition.

  101. Gab

    Twitter will be using cookies to determine if you have gone to a site that they do not like and then ban you for it. (screenshot 2 and 3) Twitter will not let you log in if you disable cookies.

    How they get away with this is incredible.

    https://twitter.com/TweetBrettMac/status/931776995138113536

  102. We wouldn’t be considering conscience protections, Tim, if you weren’t in the business of redefining things you should only acknowledge like marriage.

  103. People, as notfan intimated, Joe Cocker died almost 3 years ago.

  104. Fisky

    Mr Wilson said Parliament should be “very careful” about separately debating religious protections next year, saying this would push Australia towards having a bill of rights.

    Actually, Tim Wilson has a point here. This debate could easily be shanghai’d in the direction of a bill of rights, which will absolutely NOT be designed to protect rights from the state. In fact, John Kwiggan is already on maneuvers to revive the bill of rights, which will just be a bunch of socialist policies written into the constitution.

  105. calli

    Joe had all the moves.

    How he lasted this long is a deep mystery. Farewell.

  106. calli

    Dover, the embalming process has come a very long way in three years. 😃

  107. Fisky

    Also, not sure if trying to insert a UN treaty into the Marriage Act is such a good move by conservatives either. It won’t change anything for Christian wedding service providers, but it will be a way for the Left to bring in a bunch of other stuff such as legalising polygamy.

  108. min

    Keneally is promising World class NBN like labor promised as well as more renewables and cheaper energy prices for Bennelong and will fight to for Medicare and schools .
    What a load of cods wallop but what can one expect given the lack of knowledge of average voter . Is she going to give them fibre to the node like UK could not afford to do with larger population and much smaller country to cover.? Apparently she has not read that Victoria energy prices have gone up 50% this year due to Hazelwood closure how many hectares of solar panels and wind turbines will Vic need to replace the energy output lost. ? Never fear we have another Green in parliament so no problem wih renewables .

  109. Top Ender

    the traditional rite of pumping bullets into the air from an arsenal of weapons

    While deployed in the Middle East in the Iraq War, we experienced an official warning from the Security Detachment prophets that there would be a mass firing when some big soccer match was on. We were told to “remain indoors” when this happened in the finale.

    As we were all getting around in armoured vehicles, while wearing Kevlar helmets, ballistic glasses, and body armour, this was met with howls of derision.

    However, it did lead to much argument as to whether you could be killed by a “falling bullet” so some good came out of it.

  110. Dover, the embalming process has come a very long way in three years.

    It’s true he’s been dead for three years, Calli. But maybe it has taken this long for his body to slow down enough to be put in a coffin. He certainly had the energy.

    Mick Jagger will probably take even longer.

  111. P

    National Affairs
    ‘Be careful on religious protections, Tim Wilson warns’
    Greg Brown
    The Australian
    1:39PM November 19, 2017

    Very good comments coming through fast on this article for those who have access.

  112. Makka

    but what can one expect given the lack of knowledge of average voter

    The only way their knowledge of leftism can be enhanced is to personally suffer sufficient leftist pain. History has taught them zilch.

  113. Mater

    If a Vegan goes into a cafe which doesn’t have such options, is it discrimination? Should they be forced to cook something which is not on the menu?

    This whole argument is bizarre. I don’t support not serving people based on personal traits, but I can’t support forcing a business to provide a service which is not on their menu.

  114. calli

    The burning question – does Keith Richards still have a pulse?

  115. Roger

    Also, not sure if trying to insert a UN treaty into the Marriage Act is such a good move by conservatives either. It won’t change anything for Christian wedding service providers, but it will be a way for the Left to bring in a bunch of other stuff such as legalising polygamy.

    I understand the ambivalence but it’s already Australian law and has been for decades.

    It provides good protections of religious freedom and liberty of conscience and belief, movement etc..

    Given the way debate is going, and lacking a Bill of Rights to otherwise protect such freedoms, we should be thankful for it

  116. W Hogg

    “Nobody protested when I won.” Adern reportedly said to Trump.

    Nasty woman!

    Incidentally, “Jacinda’s National Socialist Workers Party govt is illegitimate because she didn’t not win the popular vote” said no meeja, ever.

  117. egg_

    Interesting to watch the strong revival of nationalist values in Poland. One article free of ABC-style proglodyte hysteria about “German National Socialists” forming the Polish nationalist movement is here.

    So they join Austria and Germany – and presumably others – with a Nationalist swing away from EU-imposed Socialist policies?
    Couldn’t have anything to do with the recent high rape stats brought on by ME immigrants?

  118. marcus classis

    calli
    #2558059, posted on November 19, 2017 at 2:03 pm
    The burning question – does Keith Richards still have a pulse?

    Null question. Richards long ago underwent a mutation from human being to “self-propelled narcotics and booze incineration unit”. He’s an entirely new life form now.

    The Phyla are now

    Animal phyla
    Plant phyla
    Fungal phyla
    Protista phyla
    Bacterial phyla
    Archaeal phyla
    Keith

  119. Joe

    Given the way debate is going, and lacking a Bill of Rights to otherwise protect such freedoms, we should be thankful for it

    Treaties and their enabling acts will not protect you. The High court will rule that the parliament cannot restrain future parliaments, divine right of queens – what, hrummph – and furthermore foreign law is inferior to local law by definition in that local law must override foreign law to uphold the rights of the local citizens.

  120. Combine Dave

    The vast majority are irreligious. There has been some conversion to Christianity, but many have no religion. But they are very family focused and they were hugely concerned about (the sex education program) Safe Schools. In the last federal election, in seats like Chisholm and Banks, you had Chinese communities on WeChat (the Chinese-language social network) saying if you vote Labor, your children will become homosexuals and your family name will die out in a generation, and they voted for anyone who was against Safe Schools, and that is how ­Family First got a foothold there.”

    This is entirely untrue.

    They were sharing examples of the material being given to kids on safe schools and were distraught.

    (They’re also not fans of paying lots of tax to find welfarism to labor’s vote people)

  121. Tom

    The only way their knowledge of leftism can be enhanced is to personally suffer sufficient leftist pain. History has taught [average voters] zilch.

    Pick the fatal flaw in Macca’s argument.

    Hint: people haven’t been taught history for 50 years — especially not the history of socialism.

  122. notafan

    Thank you CL

    I was reluctant to put up a link to Facebook, I get accused of all kinds of things by a certain someone when I have the temerity to do so.

    A bit of fightback is an excellent thing.

  123. Mullumhillbilly

    I understand why some people took offense.

    It wasn’t the principle, it was the example she chose.
    If It were 12 brown eyed disabled lesbians having the potential for diverse thinking, she’d still have a job.

  124. feelthebern

    The only way Ibrahim’s get such an easy ride in NSW can only be explained if John is a police snitch.
    I expect the big international drug importation case to fall over.

  125. H B Bear

    You wouldn’t want to be standing too close if Joe Cocker opted to be cremated.

  126. notafan

    Relates to book Easy Meat by Robert Spencer and Tommy Robinson (trigger warning)


    Grooming Gangs Jailed vs National Cover-Up Statistics

  127. egg_

    Keneally is promising World class NBN like labor promised as well as more renewables and cheaper energy prices for Bennelong and will fight to for Medicare and schools .

    That will win over swinging voters?
    How’s she polling?

  128. cuckoo

    News cycles are funny things. The ‘Paradise Papers’, announced with such fanfare by Fairfax/ABC, sank without trace within 72 hours. Could it have had anything to do with ABC public servants at that same moment fighting to keep their salaries secret?

  129. marcus classis

    Egg:

    So they join Austria and Germany – and presumably others – with a Nationalist swing away from EU-imposed Socialist policies?
    Couldn’t have anything to do with the recent high rape stats brought on by ME immigrants?

    Yes and yes. And it’s Visegrad-plus, so Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland and Slovakia with Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Austria rapidly moving down the same path.

    The proglodyte tranzi’s of Brussels are crapping their daks over all of this.

    A Polish friend ha a younger brother in their Army. Apparently. their ‘staff problems’ now include some scenarios where the Polish Army invades the Ottoman vilayet of Almanya to liberate the oppressed Christian majority there from Sharia law and their murderous mohammedan lords.

    I have not been able to confirm that as I don’t read Polish. But it sounds like something the Poles would think to be hilarious.

    If you think that Almanya sounds suspiciously like the Turkish word for “Germany” you’d be right.

  130. Gab

    Just had a quick look at Margaret Court’s twitter feed … the hate from the ‘love is love’ mob is obscene.

  131. egg_

    A Galaxy research poll suggests that Labor’s Kristina Kenneally has narrowed the gap with her Coalition rival for the seat of Bennelong, John Alexander, whose primary vote has dropped 8 per cent to only 3 points ahead of Ms Keneally’s at 42 to 39 per cent.
    ABC election analyst Antony Green says Kristina Keneally’s State Labor baggage is outweighed by the recent baggage of the current Federal Government.

  132. Leigh Lowe

    People, as notfan intimated, Joe Cocker died almost 3 years ago

    To be fair, I didn’t say it was breaking news … just that he was dead.

  133. Joe

    A Galaxy research poll suggests that Labor’s Kristina Kenneally has narrowed the gap with her Coalition rival for the seat of Bennelong, John Alexander…

    Yet again, nice guys finish last.

  134. Gab

    What’s all this spittled-flecked furore over “The Handmaiden’s Tale”. Can anyone sum it up in one sentence, please?

  135. John Constantine

    Social media circulates a November 15 NSW police report of a 33 year old male arrested for firing a slug gun at birds in a tree in the carport of a unit complex.

    Denied bail and held in custody for trial.

    Okay, stunningly stupid to not be aware of anti gun hysteria, but firing a slug gun at birds is now jail time, while educating young boys that taking it in the mouth from older and more experienced men is celebrating diversity.

    Heil Stalin, Comrades.

  136. Rae

    Jokin’ Joe has left and gone away.

  137. A Lurker

    What’s all this spittled-flecked furore over “The Handmaiden’s Tale”. Can anyone sum it up in one sentence, please?

    Self-indulgent crap.

  138. Gab

    33 year old male arrested for firing a slug gun at birds in a tree in the carport of a unit complex.

    Denied bail and held in custody for trial.

    Meanwhile, the murdering lunatic who ran over and killed 6 people, injuring 30 others, has been out on bail.

  139. stackja

    Gab
    #2558095, posted on November 19, 2017 at 2:46 pm

    Birds are more important.

  140. Gab, there are a class of women, handmaids, the last few fertile women, who are tasked with the role of producing the next generation, by acting as surrogates for the political elite. The most extraordinary thing about this is that this is precisely how moneyed homosexuals and late stage feminists have chosen to procure children. They literally cannot see the obvious connection but would rather argue that this is what Christians have in store for women.

  141. John Constantine

    Didn’t myth busters do a show where the danger from a bullet fired straight up, then dropping down with gravity against air resistance and terminal velocity wasn’t much.

    Idiots firing bullets at lower trajectories though we’re more likely to kill as the bullet retained lethal force on a parabolic trajectory.

  142. Gab

    Breakfast this morning with 4 seemingly intelligent people.They all agreed the Russians interfered with the election and helped Trump win. They also believe Trump will be impeached any day now. Seriously.

  143. Gab

    Thanks, Dover.

    It really does feel like we’ve gone back to the days of Sodom & Gomorrah.

    That they don’t recognise the procurement of children via 3rd party is horrendously selfish and against natural law, is incredulous and astounding.

  144. Constitutional reform:

    Adopting the American first and second amendments would be a good start.

  145. DrBeauGan

    “Well, gentlemen, I’ve never given a full body-wax to a man before, but I’m willing to give it a shot, providing you sign this agreement that you accept full responsibility for any little accidents that might happen such as castration when your dick and balls come off with your pubic hair.”

  146. stackja

    incoherent rambler
    #2558105, posted on November 19, 2017 at 2:59 pm
    Constitutional reform:

    Adopting the American first and second amendments would be a good start.

    Scare campaign would be monumental.

  147. Snoopy

    ABC election analyst Antony Green says Kristina Keneally’s State Labor baggage is outweighed by the recent baggage of the current Federal Government.

    Australians are very tolerant of corruption. A legacy of the Rum Corps.

  148. Shy Ted
    #2557932, posted on November 19, 2017 at 11:34 am
    “Nobody protested when I won.” Adern reportedly said to Trump.
    From the land of the long white teeth.

    Oh Shy Ted, that’s the best of the year. Brilliant.

    As to Ms Ardern claiming she “won”, as other have said – she didn’t win. She was helped into office as very much a minority by the opportunist Winston Peters. How typical of such a vacuous little girl to then claim “victory”. Maybe people aren’t protesting because (apart from having to earn a living rather than protest) they’re just shaking their heads in amazement at the total lack of self-awareness and common sense she so eagerly displays for all the world to see. I wonder if she’ll ever wake up and realise what a dick she’s making of herself.

  149. stackja

    Snoopy
    #2558113, posted on November 19, 2017 at 3:09 pm

    Corruption by the Left is worse than anything.

  150. H B Bear

    A Galaxy research poll suggests that Labor’s Kristina Kenneally has narrowed the gap with her Coalition rival for the seat of Bennelong, John Alexander…

    Yet again, nice guys finish last.

    Alexander was one of the 54 bedwetters. Part of the problem. Good riddance.

  151. Tintarella di Luna

    Girls RLWC bite?

    My goodness on the TV there seems to be a group of girls play a game with a ball when in fact it looks like a very vicious cat fight. Why do girls to that? All sweaty and running around and getting clobbered. I’m so glad I only had a choice of vigoro and netball. Ouch oooh a little British gel copped a fair whack. I’ll have to go back to a re-run of Simply Nigella this is too distressing.

  152. Snoopy

    Corruption by the Left is worse than anything.

    And it’s coming back. Bigly.

  153. Tintarella di Luna

    She was helped into office as very much a minority by the opportunist Winston Peters.

    You mean she was Gillarded into office as very much a minority by the opportunist Winston Peters a la Windsock/Dopeshott

  154. .

    Joe
    #2558067, posted on November 19, 2017 at 2:12 pm
    Given the way debate is going, and lacking a Bill of Rights to otherwise protect such freedoms, we should be thankful for it

    Treaties and their enabling acts will not protect you. The High court will rule that the parliament cannot restrain future parliaments, divine right of queens – what, hrummph – and furthermore foreign law is inferior to local law by definition in that local law must override foreign law to uphold the rights of the local citizens.

    Okay, if they go back on the external affairs power, then the Dams Case etc are overturned. I can take that as a compromise. Also, some of the justification for the NVAs goes away.

  155. Tintarella di Luna

    when your dick and balls come off with your pubic hair.”

    In some part that’s referred to as a gardening accident involving twig and berries

  156. .

    Also, not sure if trying to insert a UN treaty into the Marriage Act is such a good move by conservatives either.

    Goddamn that was terrible reporting. IT IS ALREADY AUSTRALIAN LAW. INCORPORATED AS LAW IN 1980. ALSO A SCHEDULE TO THE AHRC ACT.

  157. Tintarella di Luna

    seemingly

    Gab you’ve identified the problem bigly – with the left it’s all about the seeming.

  158. Tintarella di Luna

    Goddamn that was terrible reporting. IT IS ALREADY AUSTRALIAN LAW. INCORPORATED AS LAW IN 1980. ALSO A SCHEDULE TO THE AHRC ACT.

    Dear dot thank you

  159. .

    Also, not sure if trying to insert a UN treaty into the Marriage Act is such a good move by conservatives either. It won’t change anything for Christian wedding service providers, but it will be a way for the Left to bring in a bunch of other stuff such as legalising polygamy.

    No, the treaty(ies) doesn’t(don’t) demand any special treatment for any particular class but it(they) require(s) traditional marriage be protected (as well as families).

    That is of course, proper and literal application.

  160. .

    Gab
    #2558090, posted on November 19, 2017 at 2:40 pm
    What’s all this spittled-flecked furore over “The Handmaiden’s Tale”. Can anyone sum it up in one sentence, please?

    Margaret Atwood was a far left loon who thought in the Cold War, that the USA was wrong.

    Now the show is seen as a “metaphor” for TrumpHitler wanting to turn the US into a Christian version of biblical Israel and the Islamic Republic of Iran with modern tech for the elite and slavery and endless rape for women who read the huffpost.

    Lurker said it best – self-indulgent tripe. The lead actorette is a Scientologist genuine loon/disbelieving, cynical spiv who has no place criticising normal religions.

  161. Eyrie

    Firing bullets into the air.
    Knew a couple once who used to fly around the LA area in their Luscombe 8E and sometimes camp out at various airports. One time it was new years’s eve or something and a local sheriff came by to check things were Ok and there was gunfire in the mid distance. Asked what was going on the sheriff replied ” oh, just some people shooting cans – mexicans, africans, puerto ricans”.

  162. Gab

    Ah, I see, Dot. So it’s all about promoting hate of and for conservatives.

    Thanks.

  163. .

    Social media circulates a November 15 NSW police report of a 33 year old male arrested for firing a slug gun at birds in a tree in the carport of a unit complex.

    Denied bail and held in custody for trial.

    SLUG GUN

    DENIED BAIL

    TRIAL

    This country is a walking, breathing failure of an abortion.

  164. JC

    .
    #2558144, posted on November 19, 2017 at 3:40 pm

    Social media circulates a November 15 NSW police report of a 33 year old male arrested for firing a slug gun at birds in a tree in the carport of a unit complex.

    Denied bail and held in custody for trial.

    SLUG GUN

    DENIED BAIL

    TRIAL

    This country is a walking, breathing failure of an abortion.

    It’s worse. At least you can clean up the aftermath of an abortion gone wrong. Try cleaning up this mess of a shithole.

  165. A Lurker

    It’s worse. At least you can clean up the aftermath of an abortion gone wrong. Try cleaning up this mess of a shithole.

    I can’t wait for the Correction to happen.
    Hopefully it will be in my lifetime.

  166. Makka

    Try cleaning up this mess of a shithole.

    It seems to me there are 2 pathways ahead for us. One is the continued stumbling regressive path towards a cross between Scandinavia & South America, a socialist green dogs breakfast.

    The other is some kind of massive upheaval resulting in a nationalist/conservative/Christian based consensus emerging , something along the lines of Hungary or Poland. A severe recession might do it.

  167. stackja

    I have been moving house. When did the LDP fan return?

  168. Tintarella di Luna

    IT IS ALREADY AUSTRALIAN LAW. INCORPORATED AS LAW IN 1980. ALSO A SCHEDULE TO THE AHRC ACT.

    Dot what Commonwealth Law of 1980? If you can advise I would be most grateful – BTW to whom did you submit your note regarding your absence and is it for publication? Much obliged

  169. JC

    Had an in-laws get together this weekend and traveled 3.5 hours north west(ish) from home base. I swear, I will never do it again as the grass allergy was killing me. Sneezing, runny nose… I hate the bush and anything outside of the 100K is going to be a no go area unless it’s near the beach (which I do like) and half way decent places to go out to eat.

    Anyway, we were there to celebrate what would have been father-in-law’s 100th who was a WW2 vet. I was told about his buddy, who subsequently became an in law through marriage. This dude was a pow in Changi, subsequently transported on a Jap ship which was marked with the Red Cross on the sides. Dunno where it was going. The Americans sunk the fucking thing and he was subsequently picked up , along with other survivors … by another Jap ship after floating around in the water for 12 hours or so. I guess hitting hospital ships was a tit for tat affair played by the Americans too, but I was surprised they didn’t look for survivors.. He was taken to Japan and forced to work in an underground coal mine . The mine was on the outskirts of Nagasaki! Yep, and guess what came up next in his life? He was working in the mine when the big bomb went off. Some people do enjoy nine lives, hey? Incredible story.

  170. .

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-19/greens-win-in-northcote-leaves-labor-with-inner-city-predicament/9165648

    1. How indigenous would that GRN candidate be if she was viewed in MakeApp?
    2. The ALP chicky was cute.
    3. Comment:

    kat42 1 hour ago
    I voted yesterday and I voted for Greens. Any government that preaches low housing costs on the one hand but on the other upholds laws that allow old heritage buildings to be sold to developers that then destroyed to build tall ugly non sustainable apartment towers, deserves to lose seats.

    Hamster logic. We’re all gonna get rich if we stop economic activity. For great social justice.

  171. Gilas

    Re: the falling bullet myth… some high-school physics from the days when facts were paramount and knowledge valued:

    A .223 REM spitzer bullet (approx 3.56 gms), standard ordnance for the type of semi-automatics so beloved of our ME friends, falling at terminal velocity (approx 90 m/sec) would impact the ground releasing approximately 14 joules of kinetic energy ie. approximately the same as 14 medium-sized tomatoes falling 1 metre.

    Painful, but not enough to penetrate a skull, enough to enter the brain through the orbit though.
    I seem to recall that this happened to a young girl, in Europe, looking up at the wrong time a few years ago.
    Can’t recall the exact details though.

    In my experience, Oz Police are supremely ignorant of simple ballistics, hence their proclivity for BS when talking about guns.

  172. JC

    It seems to me there are 2 pathways ahead for us. One is the continued stumbling regressive path towards a cross between Scandinavia & South America, a socialist green dogs breakfast.

    France is reforming, there are also some serious economic reforms taking place in the Scandis. Euroweenie stocks could be a big mover up next year. I’m buying the Euro 200 index for Ma next week.

  173. A Lurker

    Found on Facebook…

    A bit of levity with the Turnbull IQ test!
    ________________________________

    Malcolm Turnbull went to London and met with the Queen.
    “Your Queenship, “ he asked her. “I am finding things way more difficult than I could have imagined. May I ask you – how do you run such an efficient government? Are there any tips you can give me?”
    “Well,” replied Her Majesty, “the most important thing is to surround yourself with intelligent people.”
    Turnbull frowned “But how do you know the people around you are really intelligent?” he asked.
    “Oh, that’s easy” the Queen replied. “You just ask them to answer an intelligent riddle”.
    She pushed a button on her intercom. “Please send Theresa May in here.”
    The Prime Minister walked into the room. “You called for me, Your Majesty?”
    “Answer me this, if you would, Theresa. “ the Queen said. “Your mother and father have a child. It is not your brother and it is not your sister. Who is it?”
    Without pausing for even a second, Theresa May answered, “That would be me.”
    “Yes! Very good,” said the Queen.
    Turnbull went back home, returned to the Parliament and the very next day called for his loyal deputy Julie Bishop to come and see him. July duly trotted in to Malcolm’s office.
    “Julie, answer this for me,’ said Malcolm. “Your mother and your father have a child. It’s not your brother and it’s not your sister. Who is it?”
    “I’m not sure,” said Julie. “Let me get back to you on that one.”
    Bishop went panicking off to Michael Photios and her Liberal advisers and asked everyone, but none of them could give her an answer. The next night, as it happened, Bishop ran in to Tony Abbott in a restaurant. By now, desperate for an answer to give to her narcissistic boss, she approached him – much to his surprise.
    “Tony, I know we haven’t always seen eye to eye but I would really appreciate it if you could answer this riddle for me”
    “Sure, Julie “Tony said. “I’m not one to hold a grudge. What is it?”
    “Thanks, said Bishop,” It’s this. Your mother and father have a child and it’s not your brother or your sister. Who is it?”
    Tony answered right back, “That’s easy, it’s me!”
    Julie smiled, “Thanks!”
    Bishop then went back to speak with Turnbull. “Sir, I did some research and I have the answer to that riddle. It’s Tony Abbott.”
    Turnbull got up, stomped over to Bishop, and angrily yelled at her. “No, you moron! It’s Theresa May!”

  174. Makka

    France is reforming, there are also some serious economic reforms taking place in the Scandis.

    Large parts of their nations, particularly major cities , are fked permanently from open border migration and socialist decay. Owning some foreign shares or their prices are no indicator whatsoever for the quality of life on the ground.

  175. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Sir Paul McCartney has banned meat for crew at Perth show
    Linda Parri, PerthNow
    November 19, 2017 12:01AM

    SITE crew preparing for Sir Paul McCartney’s show at Perth’s nib Stadium on December 2 have been told caterers will provide them with vegan food only.

    “All the crew members have to eat vegan food,” a crew member said.

    “No one’s allowed to eat meat for three weeks on site.”

    “It has to be vegan food rider.”

    It’s not the first time the animal activist has encouraged others to follow his diet.

    McCartney, pictured, reportedly demanded only vegan food be sold in the concourse at his concert in Illinois in July. Offerings included vegan chilli fries, vegan nacho grande and buffalo cauliflower and fries.

    Also in July, employees at Intrust Bank Arena in Kansas reported they received emails informing them no meat products would be allowed backstage. Those who wanted to eat meat were confined to a designated area on the upper concourse after the concert started. The 75-year-old has banned animal food products from his rider when he performed in Canada in 2013.

    It was reported he would not perform unless show organisers confirmed no meat would be eaten backstage.

    He also said he did not want any furniture in his dressing room to be made of animals at his Driving USA Tour, as in 2002.

    I hope the fans boycott his lousy show.

  176. JC

    Makka

    The biggest employment growth sector in this country is taxeating… public sector employment! Around, or just over 50%, of punter-land is on some sort of government transfer payment. There’s no way out of this. It’s hard to predict a recession though. We may just fall through the cracks in a relative sense, ever so slowly like Sweden and France did ( for example) from the early 70s onward.

    Gold Sack is suggesting, next year the growth rate for the world will be around 4%, which means commods should do well- underpinned by a decent 4% world GDP.. Next year’s world growth rate could disguise our weaknesses, as it would be extremely unlikely we fall into a recession with 4% world GDP. Won’t happen if that happens.

  177. JC

    Large parts of their nations, particularly major cities , are fked permanently from open border migration and socialist decay. Owning some foreign shares or their prices are no indicator whatsoever for the quality of life on the ground.

    Labor market reform will not change the landscape over night as it would take 5 to 7 years to see the results.

  178. A Lurker

    “All the crew members have to eat vegan food,” a crew member said.
    “No one’s allowed to eat meat for three weeks on site.”
    “It has to be vegan food rider.”
    It’s not the first time the animal activist has encouraged others to follow his diet.

    For such authoritarians ‘encourage’ is another word for ‘make compulsory’.
    Hopefully the concert is within walking distance of a decent hamburger/steak sandwich joint.

  179. Makka

    JC
    #2558168, posted on November 19, 2017 at 4:09 pm

    Yes, I tend to agree with much of that which is why I think we are fkd. We do have resources which is why our Scando/Latin socialist green future looks quite likely.

  180. .

    Un yeah sure.

    Donatella Joan Trump

    https://www.domain.com.au/advice/why-women-are-better-property-investors-in-the-long-term-20171020-gz3ygj/

    Unless financially literate women preferentially invest in real estate, this go grrl nonsense.

    An old lady who worked as a nurse and is a widow is not sitting down doing IRR spreadsheets.

  181. herodotus

    He also said he did not want any furniture in his dressing room to be made of animals at his Driving USA Tour, as in 2002.

    Er, Paul – you do know that an Ottoman isn’t made of Otters, don’t you?

  182. Fisky

    Labor market reform will not change the landscape over night as it would take 5 to 7 years to see the results.

    Labour market reform is not going to help people who have never worked in their lives. The days of low-skilled work are over. Forever.

  183. JC

    “All the crew members have to eat vegan food,” a crew member said.
    “No one’s allowed to eat meat for three weeks on site.”
    “It has to be vegan food rider.”
    It’s not the first time the animal activist has encouraged others to follow his diet.

    As much as I hate to say this, it’s his show and like all other artists, they (artists) indirectly pay the catering supplies for the crew. He can and should be able to order what he likes, as it’s his money being spent. If the crew don’t like it they go eat elsewhere.

  184. JC

    Labour market reform is not going to help people who have never worked in their lives. The days of low-skilled work are over. Forever.

    Depends on the labor rate, Fisky. At x rate, people would hire a three legged one armed mentally retarded midget instead of mechanizing.

  185. calli

    I wonder what McCartney’s views are on abortion?

  186. Joe

    If the crew don’t like it they go eat elsewhere.

    Which will involve union rules – that Paul the commie will agree to. Where’s muh guitars… Sorry mate still chowing down at the local Maccas.

  187. A Lurker

    Yes, I tend to agree with much of that which is why I think we are fkd. We do have resources which is why our Scando/Latin socialist green future looks quite likely.

    Factor in the parlous state of our national grid and escalating energy costs for households and businesses and I think the Recession future is more likely.

  188. rickw

    Social media circulates a November 15 NSW police report of a 33 year old male arrested for firing a slug gun at birds in a tree in the carport of a unit complex.

    Denied bail and held in custody for trial.

    SLUG GUN

    DENIED BAIL

    TRIAL

    This country is a walking, breathing failure of an abortion.

    That’s because in the idiot infested swamp of Arsetralia, a slug gun is a firearm, despite it not using any “fire” and despite the rest of the planet not considering them to be firearms for that very reason.

    He would have got more consideration shooting an AK-47 in the air at a Leb wedding.

    We are completely fucked.

  189. egg_

    The other is some kind of massive upheaval resulting in a nationalist/conservative/Christian based consensus emerging , something along the lines of Hungary or Poland. A severe recession might do it.

    The public don’t seem to be able to connect the dots between ALP Sate Govts and poor Energy policy.

  190. H B Bear

    McCartney represents the very worse of geriatric rock.

  191. JC

    It would be really courageous predicting a down-slope on this fucking chart going back to 1955.

    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/RGDPNAAUA666NRUG

  192. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The days of low-skilled work are over. Forever.

    Not in rural Australia they aren’t.

  193. Fisky

    Depends on the labor rate, Fisky. At x rate, people would hire a three legged one armed mentally retarded midget instead of mechanizing.

    Once automation is rolled out in a section of retail and hospitality – starting from the $15/hr enclaves in Berniestan – it’s going to be done across the board, everywhere. There might be some flexibility in small business, but the large fast food providers are not going to keep a hybrid operation using a low-cost labour model in one area, and robots running everything in another area. Even in the small business sector which is well-known for paying illegally in cash, it’s unlikely labour market reform is going to do much.

  194. rickw

    Constitutional reform:

    Adopting the American first and second amendments would be a good start.

    Yep, in the meantime, just having the mindset helps:

    – Say whatever you think.
    – Own as many guns as you can.

  195. Snoopy

    A huge day of sport on television today. Women’s rugby league, women’s twenty/20, WAFL and women’s hockey.

  196. Fisky

    Maybe the French government should experiment with micro-loans to people who can’t break into the labour market. Here’s $2,000 to set up a kebab stand, sort of thing.

  197. Makka

    A huge day of sport on television today. Women’s rugby league, women’s twenty/20, WAFL and women’s hockey.

    Kumuls vs Poms?

  198. Snoopy

    Kumuls vs Poms?

    Yeah, that too.

  199. calli

    Kumuls vs Poms

    Which I am watching. At least they won’t need the dogs for crowd control.

  200. Geriatric Mayfly

    Here’s $2,000 to set up a kebab stand, sort of thing.

    Could well devalue the reputation of French food. Mustafa will have to present his cordon bleu Cert. IV before he gets one centime.

  201. Fisky

    I have a handful of long-lost friends from uni who are basically unemployable in their early-mid 30s. No one would hire them. They may have degrees (which took them 8 years to do), but they did not start working properly when they were in their 20s, and as a result they are done. There is no labour market reform that will help these people. They will not break into any of the professions or even an entry-level vocational job.

    A couple of times a year I might go to a government office, say Medicare. The room is often filled with white proles and indigenous people who have not washed and are very loud and rude. No one is going to hire these people. They are going to exist like they are for the rest of their lives.

    That’s the problem with “policy”. You can cut minimum wages by 5% and it will have jack all difference for most of the unemployed. Anyone who has been out of work for a couple of years is in serious trouble, and anyone who basically hasn’t worked by the age of 30 will probably never work.

  202. Makka

    At least they won’t need the dogs for crowd control.

    Spears and axes left at the gate?

  203. egg_

    A huge day of sport on television today. Women’s rugby league, women’s twenty/20, WAFL and women’s hockey.

    Thank gawd for GEM & John Wayne – the ‘Nursing Home Channel’?

  204. Fisky

    Then you have Muslim “refugees” milling around in the streets of many European capitals. These people are not going to work. They do not have the mindset, the social skills, the cultural understanding, the language skills, let alone the qualifications, to work in a normal job. The way they communicate and their body language alone would cause any business to lose customers. You take one look at them, then put yourself in the shoes of an employer and ask yourself, “would you hire this person?”.

  205. JC

    Here’s PPP per cap GDP by country.

    We’re 10th. There’s no fucking way in the world that if Australian economic settings were on the right course we should be 10th. We should be first by a yuge margin as we’re a smallish population on a huge landmass and our endowments (and they are incredible) would give us the flexibility to swap things around when say coal prices went lower etc (for example)

    Instead, we have strong tailwinds countered by the opposite and it’s to our own credit and also our endowments we’re able to counter the headwinds due to terrible economic policy.

    A large swag of the population no longer cares about having or even maintaining high levels of economic growth and rising living standards. In fact a decent swag of this cohort is dead set against, as they believe it impinges on the ‘viroment and is detrimental to da equality. They also teach this shit in schools and university.

    Think back to how this country got rid of excellent government in 2007.. for “what the heck lets change them because we’re bored”. We have shocking government since then. We just saw that in New Zealand.

  206. Geriatric Mayfly

    The way they communicate and their body language…

    That look of contempt from an assumed position of superiority, is hard to take from goatherds and indolent layabouts.

  207. Makka

    Then you have Muslim “refugees” milling around in the streets of many European capitals. These people are not going to work.

    But stock prices…..

  208. Fisky

    That look of contempt from an assumed position of superiority, is hard to take from goatherds and indolent layabouts.

    Coming from people who have never done anything useful in their lives. They are acutely aware of this, so they try to compensate for their low status with “attitude”. And then they wonder why people don’t like them very much.

  209. Gilas

    Afghan takes 14.5mm bullet to head and lives.

    A REALLY lucky break for the guy.
    A monster anti-tank bullet, looks to have lodged in the falx cerebri ie. between the frontal lobes, maybe just touching, or even missing the corpus callosum (bridge between the two hemispheres).

    He won several lotteries at once.

  210. Atoms for Peace

    One of the relos kids has just started her first job. 4 years of uni and works in a coffee shop.
    The other one is 8 years into consecutive useless degrees and has worked less than 1 week in her life.
    The parents are total enablers and my wife trolls them mercilessly.

  211. Fisky

    Something I have noticed is a handful of suspected boat people have become cheap hairdressers. They are absolutely hopeless and incompetent. As soon as I ask for anything more than a buzzcut, they butcher the whole style. I’ve tried three of these guys and I’m not bothering with reffo hairdressers anymore.

    Besides there is a proper salon not far away staffed entirely by charming young gals, and they only charge a little more than the reffos.

  212. JC

    Here’s an example of the sorts of jobs you can create, Fisky.

    Well healed apartment buildings in NYC and the rest of the US have doormen. We don’t, because they cost too much as the labor rate is too high. I know, I’m sure some people would snigger at this suggestion. If we had reasonable labor rates, the more expensive apartment buildings in this country would also have 24 hour doorman service. These guys are good because they take all the shit you have in the car after a weekend away and park it at the elevator. It’s a service job. They also provide a level of security. They aren’t the smartest people in then world but they do their job and it’s nice having someone at the door.
    I notice that some old, established apartment buildings around have old desks and consoles, which means there were doormen in the old days.

    I also make another prediction. There will be two classes of goods we will see in the future. Dirt cheap stuff made by robots and you will have handmade- more bespoke goods for the wealthy middle class that appreciates the perfection of imperfection. Don’t get carried worrying about robots and shit. I’d much rather a well made, but not over the top (price) , bespoke suit over that these days than one half made by robots. They look like it.

    Remember this… the perfection of imperfection will be prized.

    There will be plenty of jobs. Just don’t get hung up about this.

  213. Fisky

    One of the relos kids has just started her first job. 4 years of uni and works in a coffee shop.
    The other one is 8 years into consecutive useless degrees and has worked less than 1 week in her life.
    The parents are total enablers and my wife trolls them mercilessly.

    The second one is completely gone, but the coffee shop kid MIGHT come good. Especially if they actually like hospitality and want to specialise, step up to shift-runner/management, and take it from there.

  214. Geriatric Mayfly

    Someone mentioned mentioned that they were in regression and actually watching television. I hasten to the TV programming for tonight, for the first time in months, on the look out for a few fleeting moments of engagement. A barren wasteland confronts me. The only compromise is NITV, so I might park there for the duration.

  215. Infidel Tiger

    University is the worst place any person can possibly end up.

    Psychologically it is so damaging for these poor kids. They all end up unemployable.

    Any parent who enables tertiary education should be shot.

  216. calli

    Spears and axes left at the gate?

    Lol. I still have a Hagen axe tucked away in case of unwelcome guests.

  217. “Nobody protested when I won.” Adern reportedly said to Trump.

    “They weren’t protesting me either, not a whole month after the election either! ” Trump (should have) responded.

  218. JC

    Something I have noticed is a handful of suspected boat people have become cheap hairdressers. They are absolutely hopeless and incompetent. As soon as I ask for anything more than a buzzcut, they butcher the whole style. I’ve tried three of these guys and I’m not bothering with reffo hairdressers anymore.

    Are you freaking crazy? Only Italian or East European barbers know how to cut hair. My fucker was away on holidays, so I went to some idiots close by. I had a young girl with a nose ring who made an absolute mess of my hair. Never again!

  219. JC

    I also don’t agree with you about robots taking over restaurants or coffee shops, Fisk. Sure, that will eventually come, but the generation which accepts this is either not born or still in diapers. I want my coffer made by a hipster who thinks he’s a god.

    Remember, the perfection of imperfection will be yuge

  220. Atoms for Peace

    I don’t think Trump would even waste a twitter reply on any Kiwi PM.

  221. Fisky

    Go into Maccas sometime and the level of automation is unbelievable. I reckon they must halved the amount of staff at least.

  222. JC

    Go into Maccas sometime and the level of automation is unbelievable. I reckon they must halved the amount of staff at least.

    That’s maccas and you go there to buy fast junk. Nobody expects hipster fuckwits to be pouring the coffee at maccas. You expect pimply young fat chicks and dorks. There’s a place for that, but at this stage it’s tiny.

  223. jupes

    From JC’s link above, seems Putin also likes watches:

    Be that is it may, the most expensive model on the list is the A. Lange &SohneTourbograph Pour le Merite. This tourbillon watch costs about half a million dollars. In addition to this watch, the president has been seen wearing the Patek Philippe Perpetual Calendar and the Patek Philippe Calatrava, Breguet Marine, and IWC Pilot’s Watch Mark XV.

    Interesting. I was speaking to a Swiss watchmaker last night (no shit) and asked him if he had a choice of any watch in the world, what would it be? “A Patek Philippe.” I’d had a few wines by this stage so I can’t remember the model.

    Still, plenty of very nice watches to choose from.

  224. calli

    Children have to start work at 15, while they’re still at school. A little bit at first so as not to interfere with studies, but ramped up the moment they get into uni. That little pay packet at the beginning is like ambrosia – if I work I can spend! Or save.

    That’s how they buy their first car for cash and become millionaires at 25.

  225. Infidel Tiger

    That’s maccas and you go there to buy fast junk. Nobody expects hipster fuckwits to be pouring the coffee at maccas. You expect pimply young fat chicks and dorks. There’s a place for that, but at this stage it’s tiny.

    Max as has good coffee these days. Dicious burgers too.

  226. JC

    Jupes

    I still regret it to this day. mentally incompetent, Alan bond bought a New York department store ( I think it as called Bonwit Teller) that went broke when i was living there. I went hunting around the trash cans (that’s what it was like) and found a Patek Phillipe in the mens watch department discounted to $1,230. I still recall the price vividly. I gutted out of doing the deal although I chewed on it. I went back the next day and it was gonsky.

    It was this model/style…

    I’m still saddened and will take it to my death dead. One of the last things I think I will remember is why didn’t I buy that watch when Bond was closing the store. It was around 80% off at the time.

  227. marcus classis

    While I think the bow he draws is a bit long (the scale is hugely different), some of the parallels are interesting. Link

  228. JC

    Max as has good coffee these days.

    It’s too fucking hot! You have to wait ages to cool down and if you take a swig in burns your mouth to a cinder. No finesse , no perfection of imperfection. Burgers are okay, but they don’t beat some of the burger hipster joints for taste.

  229. Snoopy

    Children have to start work at 15, while they’re still at school. A little bit at first so as not to interfere with studies, but ramped up the moment they get into uni.

    Anyone who begins a nursing degree without first completing the diploma has rocks in their head. Heaps of well paid work after just 18 months and you find out early if you are really cut out for the job. Then when you complete your degree you have no trouble getting a job as you are competing against others with no work experience.

    I’m sure there must be other similar examples.

  230. Oh come on

    To be fair, Maccas has increased its level of automation while introducing a vastly more complicated menu which offers all day breakfasts and a premium burger range, with these burgers being 100% customisable.

    I’m not convinced that this has improved McDonald’s franchisee margins, but still…

  231. JC

    Artiste

    If you’re ever in these parts go buy a burger at this place. Trust me, they have the best burgers in the entire city. It’s an old joint runs by a Greek family and the younger gen has taken over but they kept the recipe to the letter.
    The chips are to die for.
    https://www.zomato.com/melbourne/andrews-hamburgers-albert-park

    Read the reviews.. massive support base.

  232. jupes

    I’m still saddened and will take it to my death dead. One of the last things I think I will remember is why didn’t I buy that watch when Bond was closing the store. It was around 80% off at the time.

    Wow. That really is a sad story.

  233. JC

    OCO

    I go to maccas about six times a year. The computerized menu/order screen is fucking awful. Just awful. Confusing and badly arranged.

  234. calli

    The last word on da yoof (and, incidentally, JC’s lost watch) belongs to this guy.

  235. Oh come on

    A few years ago, everyone was doom and gloom about McDonald’s, particularly when the Pommy CEO declared his intention was to turn the company into a “progressive” fast food chain. No. McDonald’s will never be progressive and should never try to be.

  236. Mitch M.

    Then when you complete your degree you have no trouble getting a job as you are competing against others with no work experience.

    A friend of mine who managed a nursing ward in a major hospital said that degree qualified nurses were often lacking the necessary skills.

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