Monday Forum: November 20. 2017

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  1. Fisky

    Anyway, by the time Moore is sworn in, there will be about 15 other sex scandals raging, nearly all of them involving Democrats. No one will give a shit about the Judge’s non-indiscretions.

  2. BorisG

    Moore isn’t stuffed, he’s going to win by a lot!

    Quite possibly. And then GOP will have a big problem.

  3. OneWorldGovernment

    BorisG
    #2560272, posted on November 21, 2017 at 1:44 am

    Moore isn’t stuffed, he’s going to win by a lot!

    Quite possibly. And then GOP will have a big problem.

    Exactly.

    Because once he is sworn in he has his hands on the books and he can find out for himself who the congress is paying $15million to cover up incumbent sexual peccadilloes.

  4. DM of WA

    Praying hard for a Roy Moore victory. If he wins it will be a mighty blow against the establishment.

    Once Moore is elected these dubious forty year old allegations will fade away – just like Trump’s did.
    And they are unlikely to survive a Senate investigation which would be needed to justify expelling an
    elected senator.

    So much about the allegations make no sense:
    The yearbook signature was surely forged.
    The mall ban ban is disputed.
    The retired policeman’s claim that Moore was “known to police” is dubious – why did he stay silent before?

    Above all: why these allegations all at this particular critical moment when Roy Moore has been a high profile and controversial figure for decades? It is simply incredible that of these allegations became
    public in the forty years before the Republican primary. This affair smells like a conspiracy.

  5. BorisG

    Above all: why these allegations all at this particular critical moment when Roy Moore has been a high profile and controversial figure for decades?

    Why at this moment is clear, but why it hasn’t surfaced during his previous elections, is a big question.

    Yet it is not easy to organize a conspiracy of so many people.

    As for trump – well, I don’t think many people believe these things did not happen (post tape). I think voters just didn’t care. Whether it is the same with Moore remains to be seen.

  6. BorisG

    Supporters of Moore should answer a simple question: do they support him because they don’t believe the allegations are true, or will support him even if they are true?

  7. Fisky

    Boris, many of us support Moore BECAUSE the allegations are true. You don’t want to elect a pathetic beta cuck to the Senate – just look at that Flake loser!

  8. Mick Gold Coast QLD

    This from several newspapers yesterday – the self conscious 15 year old prepubescent school girl who New Zealanders, just a few weeks ago, installed in a party house to have fun and giggles running the country with her besties has done it some more ….

    As background you will recall on her first day as head prefect she offered the country’s nearest neighbour a jolly good tongue lashing on how they torture illegal immigrants, who are lovely, and how utterly unacceptable that is to her.

    She wants to mother them herself, at her new fairy princess castle, but she did not reveal if she was aware that, if she did not put out, they would rape her anyway.

    She then joined an end of season football club tour to Kuta, or so she thought, had lunch and dinner with some quaint little brown people wearing colorful saris and found the US President was staying at the same Club Med resort.

    “She described how she joked with Donald Trump when they first met, telling the US president “no one marched when I was elected”. “

    Telling the bloke you may need as your benefactor that his appointment as leader of the free world is not legitimate, and less legitimate than your own election, is pretty bloody puerile, eh?

    Now she has removed any doubt about her rank stupidity:

    “New Zealand’s prime minister, Jacinda Ardern, has expressed regret over gossiping about a meeting with Donald Trump after it was reported the US president may have mistaken her for Justin Trudeau’s wife.

    Ardern was visibly uncomfortable when asked about reports that she had revealed details of the encounter at the East Asia summit in Vietnam last week to a friend who later went public.

    The friend – comedian Tom Sainsbury – revealed in a radio interview that Ardern had told her Trump was “not as orange in real life” and that he had been confused about her identity.

    Sainsbury said: “[Ardern] said that Donald Trump was confused for a good amount of time in thinking that she was Justin Trudeau’s wife.” “

    You’d be embarrassed making this stuff up, Their Very Own Horse’s Head does it instinctively.

  9. Fisky

    Having said that, the stories in the NYT/WAPO seem like a fit up. Nothing seems to match. You’ve got forged signatures, last minute accusations, and all these women coming out of the woodwork, probably coordinating their stories. I doubt the fondling allegations are true, but if they are it doesn’t matter in this race.

    The only truth in the stories is that many, many women were hot for Judge Moore since their teens, even though they accept that his strong Christian morals have always preventing him (and them) from crossing certain lines.

  10. Tom

    Gado (Godfrey Mwampembwa, East African Standard, Nairobi) — drawn last year.

  11. Dr Sir Major General

    Yet it is not easy to organize a conspiracy of so many people.

    No, it is quite easy to find people who will fabricate stories to defame a candidate when the entire mainstream-media establishment makes it obvious that fame and fortune can be had by bravely coming forward with a correct narrative.
    Lucius Aelius Seianus was almost revered as virtual ruler of Rome but, as soon as the Senate and people of Rome discovered that Sejanus had lost the support of the emperor Tiberius, informers everywhere came forward to denounce him (and all his family) as guilty of all the sins most reviled at the time. Even his youngest daughter—raped first by the executioner in order not to strangle a virgin—suffered fatally because of this tendency, common throughout history, for people to join fashionable denunciations and to invent crimes.
    Had Alabama been settled predominantly by Iranian Shiites Judge Moore would currently be censured for beating women with the soles of his shoes and for insulting the Prophet.

  12. Tintarella di Luna

    You’d be embarrassed making this stuff up, Their Very Own Horse’s Head does it instinctively.

    Ms Ardern is a brunette version of Gillard with prominent dentation – totally inept, elevated beyond her political capacity and possibly educated beyond her intellectual capacity. Selected by the over-blown pasture-avoiding Winston Peters.

  13. DrBeauGan

    I agree with Makka. Leftism is a quasi-religion founded on envy, spite, and a deep, deep dishonesty. It is a fundamental threat and makes Islam look good and decent by comparison.

    If Boris cannot see this it is because he is either shallow or partially infected by it. Probably both.

  14. min

    The first Pope John XXIII , Baldassare Cossa , supported by the Medicis during the schism was jailed and excommunicated for crimes such as having sex with 200 prostitutes and a list straight from Bocaccio stories. His Donatello tomb is in the Baptistry in Florence where he is described as erstwhile . Most Italian guides have never heard of him church did the best to obliterate the so called pirate pope

  15. notafan

    I thought they would be Heyer’s mysteries DrBG, I read them long ago.

    Though men are known to read the Regencies so you never know.

    I’m currently reading a Nicholas Freeling.

    Just finished Wyndham’s The Chrysalids after reading a couple of the Stimpy recommended Guy Gabriel Kay ( which I must find a couple more of).

  16. Bruce of Newcastle

    First there was the PPL and graphic warnings on fag packets.
    Now we hear there are warnings to be pasted onto bottles of booze.
    The logical next step is of course…cars that are destroying the planet.

    Latest Daft Green Marketing Idea: Pictures of Natural Disasters on the Sides of New Cars

    Professor Simon Dalby thinks the way to discourage buying petrol cars is to decorate new cars with mandatory images of climate disasters.

    Warning: if you drive this car you will be raping Gaia.

  17. Mother Lode

    “She described how she joked with Donald Trump when they first met, telling the US president “no one marched when I was elected”. “

    Did Trump joke that she has a set of teeth about four sizes to big for her mouth, and a mouth about twenty sizes too big for her talent? Or how many states he is President of that are bigger than her whole country?

    Perhaps jokingly suggest they meet again in a year and see how their nations have fared?

    Why do these arseholes insist on describing their snark as a joke? As if to defuse it slightly? Because they realise how petty and childish they sound, but still wanting to brag about something? Anything?

    She and Trumble are just the faintest wraiths. I would not be surprised to learn they got the shits when Trump walked through them like spectral vapour while crossing the room to meat a real world leader.

    Jacinda and Mick can now form a little club with secret hand shakes and songs. They can drink cordial, have sleep overs, and lie awake at night talking about the boys they have crushes on.

  18. Farmer Gez

    Cossa was third in line as a Pope during the Schism and is not regarded as legitimate.
    He was clearly a Medici puppet.
    John XXIII is a modern Pope and Cossa is not given that title.

  19. Senile Old Guy

    This is what passes as informed commentary on their ABC:

    A high school student has taken on a Christian broadcaster during Q&A, arguing that calls for religious protections in same-sex marriage legislation are “unjustified” because it is “legally and morally wrong” to discriminate against the LGBTIQ community.

    A “high school student” telling us what is “legally and morally wrong”. How would a high school student know what is legally wrong? (Or morally, for that matter.)

    “The amendments that myself and my colleagues want are precisely to protect that young woman,” Mr O’Doherty said. “And anybody else who wants to simply express a view about marriage and not be punished for it. The same protections that are awarded to people for sexuality ought to be awarded to people who hold religious views.”

    Even before SSM is law, people are being prosecuted for saying that marriage is a man and a woman, so O’Doherty is correct.

    Milly hit back at Mr O’Doherty, saying: “When you say that we’re protecting the LGBTIQ-plus community more than protecting religious people, people of Christian and Catholic views haven’t been persecuted and systematically oppressed like the LGBTIQ-plus community has for centuries.”

    Oh dear! History fail. Words fail. But, of course, the incredible stupidity, and historical blindness, of this comment was not challenged at their ABC. Their ABC, which routinely and automatically, dumps on Christians and Christian views demonstrates, again, that it is anti-Christian, broadcasting a naive and ignorant school girl dumping on Christians.

  20. Baldrick

    A high school student has taken on a Christian broadcaster during Q&A, arguing that calls for religious protections in same-sex marriage legislation are “unjustified” because it is “legally and morally wrong” to discriminate against the LGBTIQ community.

    Given the overwhelming No vote in Sydney’s Islamic electorates it’s strange TheirABC didn’t see fit to invite a prominent member of the Muslim community onto the panel.
    Anyway, I’m sure it must have been an oversight.

  21. notafan

    Andrew Hastie is now copping all kinds of abuse over his decision to abstain from voting on ssmarriage.

    What gracious winners they are.

  22. Senile Old Guy

    This is where this is all going wrong:

    Immigration Minister Peter Dutton and Defence Personnel Minister Dan Tehan are urging colleagues to avoid sweeping amendments with unintended consequences, such as creating religious enclaves shielded by law. The warning comes as federal cabinet meets today to consider a breakthrough plan to resolve a growing dispute over personal freedom, with church leaders and independent experts likely to be consulted on how to craft the right safeguards for people of faith.

    We do need safeguards for “people of faith”. But, more than this, we need safeguards for freedom of speech for everyone. Time and time again, there are calls to protect the religious view of marriage as between a man and a woman. But what about people of no religion, such as me, who, for secular reasons, have the same view? Apparently, this is bad luck. So, oddly, to protect my freedom of speech, I may have to join a religion!

  23. The Liberals could have saved themselves a lot of pain and listened to me (years ago).

    I repeat. Mick Trumble is a dud.

  24. Senile Old Guy

    Andrew Hastie is now copping all kinds of abuse over his decision to abstain from voting on ssmarriage.

    He should. Abstaining is a cop out. If the issue is important enough to consider abstaining — something most politicians rarely do — it is important enough to vote for or against. He should vote against.

  25. Tintarella di Luna

    We do need safeguards for “people of faith”. But, more than this, we need safeguards for freedom of speech for everyone. Time and time again, there are calls to protect the religious view of marriage as between a man and a woman. But what about people of no religion, such as me, who, for secular reasons, have the same view? Apparently, this is bad luck. So, oddly, to protect my freedom of speech, I may have to join a religion!

    The greatest freedom of all is freedom of speech without it freedom of conscience is no freedom at all

  26. notafan

    I suspect a no vote from Hastie will see the abuse from the mentally disordered dial up by eleventy.

    Tony Burkas electorate voted no, is his office being inundated with abuse because he plans to vote yes?

    Perhaps Hastie could take his cue from.Burka.

  27. Eyrie

    Looks like Internode’s email system is completely broken this morning.

  28. Leigh Lowe

    Perhaps Hastie could take his cue from.Burka.

    Shag his PA and rort his expenses?

  29. calli

    My worry is that simply focussing on “faith” will backfire bigtime. Freedom to speak openly should be available to all, regardless of religion.

  30. Tintarella di Luna

    My worry is that simply focussing on “faith” will backfire bigtime. Freedom to speak openly should be available to all, regardless of religion.

    Exactly and freedom of speech should be included in our constitution with the safeguards which are currently in place with respect to incitement and other illegal calls for violence, property damage and so on.

  31. calli

    Sorry SOG. Should have refreshed before mouthing off.

    Christians expect opposition. It isn’t comfortable but it strengthens faith and dependence. And the greater the excess, the more opportunity to show grace and fortitude. The servant is no greater than his master.

    The law as it exists simply needs to be enforced for all.

  32. calli

    It’s vewy vewy quiet here….

  33. Leigh Lowe

    Too quiet … where’s srr?

  34. It’s vewy vewy quiet here….

    Everyone is off desperately searching for their Malotto tickets.

  35. Rabz

    It’s presumably just lazy two dimensional characterisation, but did anyone notice how hitlerist poor ol’ Neges was looking in last night’s episode of TWD?

    As the for the Daryl/(P)Rick contretemps, WTF?

    The show is starting to lose me.

  36. Rabz

    So has the Waffleroach™ decreed that homosexuality is now compulsory?

  37. Top Ender

    So who is this person?

    Coalition MP threatens to quit unless Malcolm goes

    Deputy Liberal leader Julie Bishop has urged an unnamed Coalition colleague who is reportedly intending to quit the Turnbull government when parliament returns to discuss his concerns with her or the Prime Minister.

    Sky News commentator Andrew Bolt reported last night that a Coalition MP has told him that he intends to step down from the government and sit as an independent member of the Coalition when parliament returns.

    The move would increase the already considerable pressure on Malcolm Turnbull, who has lost his majority in the House of Representatives while Nationals leader Barnaby Joyce and NSW MP John Alexander face by-elections.

    According to Mr Bolt, the dissident Coalition MP says he will only sit with the government if Mr Turnbull is replaced as prime minister by a leader who can appeal to conservative voters, and that person must not be Ms Bishop.

    Apologies if it has been discussed before.

    Link

  38. Geriatric Mayfly

    Poor Grace Mugabe. She claims to have been gypped over the purchase of a 100 carat diamond and is suing the shifty vendor. Assuming the stone comes in at the going price of $2000 per carat (approx.) she has every right to be miffed if it’s missing a facet or two. Meanwhile, let them eat mealie.

  39. feelthebern

    Mark Latham has re-tweeted SRR this morn.
    He’s released the kracken.

  40. Rae

    the dissident Coalition MP says he will only sit with the government if Mr Turnbull is replaced as prime minister by a leader who can appeal to conservative voters, and that person must not be Ms Bishop

    But the un-named MP is a just a baby having a tanty, throwing some of its toys out of the cot. This jelly-back will not vote against Turnbulls or Bishops government on anything that would threaten his or her own tenure.

  41. C.L.

    Al Franken’s career over, another victim of the Hillary-endorsed monster steps forward …

    CNN: Woman says Franken inappropriately touched her in 2010.

  42. Ragu

    So who is this person?

    Zimmerman?

  43. JC

    Al Franken’s career over,

    Someone got thrush.

    Anti-Trump NYT Reporter Glenn Thrush Suspended Amid Sexual Misconduct Allegations

    Another day, another enemy of Donald Trump is hoisted by their own petard.

    A top White House reporter for the New York Times and vocal critic of President Trump, Glenn Thrush, has been suspended from duty amid claims of sexual misconduct.

    Several young women have accused the married journalist, 50, of unwanted sexual harassment according to Vox journalist Laura McGann – who Thrush says harassed her five years ago when he was working for Politico. McGann writes:

    Three young women I interviewed, including the young woman who met Thrush in June, described to me a range of similar experiences, from unwanted groping and kissing to wet kisses out of nowhere to hazy sexual encounters that played out under the influence of alcohol. Each woman described feeling differently about these experiences: scared, violated, ashamed, weirded out. I was — and am — angry.

    http://ibankcoin.com/zeropointnow/2017/11/20/anti-trump-nyt-reporter-glenn-thrush-suspended-amid-sexual-misconduct-allegations/#sthash.DaT5JmiA.dpbs

    Thrush reckons it was the health crisis that did it.

  44. C.L.

    A top White House reporter for the New York Times and vocal critic of President Trump, Glenn Thrush, has been suspended from duty amid claims of sexual misconduct.

    Ahahahahahaha.

  45. Boambee John

    From PJ Media (RTWT)

    The situation in France has gotten so desperate that the only way to prevent civil war between Muslim and non-Muslim sections of society is to divide the country in two, one French academic argued. This may seem needlessly drastic, but the push for Sharia (Islamic law) being enshrined in the government may make it necessary.

    “Just as the English never managed to tame the Irish Catholics, we will never be able to eradicate the radical Islamism,” wrote Christian de Moliner in the French online magazine Causeur. “Everyone realizes that a second people has formed in France, a branch that wants to settle their life on religious values and is fundamentally opposed to the liberal consensus on which our country was founded.” The author also shared his article in a post on Facebook.

    De Moliner argued that “a nation always rests on a fundamental pact, a minimum of laws that all approve.” In France, he claimed, this is no longer the case.</em

    Perhaps we should take some decisive action (end Muslim immigration??) here before we get to this stage?

  46. A high school student has taken on a Christian broadcaster during Q&A,

    The Left always use children in this thuggish way. It’s the West’s equivalent to Islamists using children as suicide-bombers.

  47. Boambee John

    Italics fail, the final sentence is mine.

  48. Geriatric Mayfly

    So who is this person?
    Zimmerman?

    Unlikely. Too much of a brown noser.

  49. and that person must not be Ms Bishop

    I like the guy!

  50. Tintarella di Luna

    Julie Bitchop aka Performing Stick Insect is urging the unhappy Liberal parliamentarian to come and talk to the bent-eared Termite or to her or the BlackHanded winner in the circle jerk about their “feelings” of wanting to quit and sit as an independent if the bent-eared termite is not dumped and replaced with a leader who will appeal to the conservative base. What a goat rodeo and Julie Bishop is the Judas Goat.

  51. notafan

    I saw a like not a retweet feelthebern.

    I’ve had likes from Latho and Devine

    Warm and fuzzy feelings ensued.

    Twitter can be so entertainment.

  52. Infidel Tiger

    I read the Vox story on Glenn Thrush. He sounds like a loser who is a bit awkward when he hits on women. So what? If chicks can’t handle a man putting his hand on their thigh in a lame attempt to show interest, then billions of Sheilas are going to die alone and dildo sales are going to sky rocket.

    OTOH the new puritanical mania destroying leftism is rather beautiful.

  53. JC

    Artiste
    The left and their feminist partners created the environment where merely talking to a female is considered harassment. Let the fuckers all burn.

  54. Rae

    Twitter can be so entertainment.

    srr is keeping an eye on the Cat lamentations.

  55. Infidel Tiger

    JC I agree. The irony is thick and delicious.

    The pendulum always swings back. The sexual revolution ends with it now being illegal to touch a woman’s thigh at a bar.

    It’s time to invest heavily in dildo and cat food manufacturers.

  56. Dr Faustus

    Malcolm Turnbull dangles middle-income tax cut during Business Council of Australia speech

    “I am actively working with the Treasurer and my Cabinet colleagues to ease the burden on middle-income Australians, while also meeting our commitment to return the budget to surplus,” Mr Turnbull said.

    Well bugger me down dead; that’s in the bag, then.

  57. Infidel Tiger

    Srr is on Twitter?

  58. Tintarella di Luna

    The article in the Oz about the Coalition MP threatens to quit is harvesting comments at a great rate. And none are too complimentary of the ‘loyal’ Deputy and her leader.

  59. Stimpson J. Cat

    We are srr.

    infowars
    infowars
    @infowars
    ·
    2h
    Electromagnetic Evil: 5G Waves Are Pentagon’s New Tool To Poison The Public

  60. Stimpson J. Cat

    We are srr.

    Paul Joseph Watson
    @PrisonPlanet
    ·
    2h
    Cernovich Promises to Expose Top Democrat Accused of Sexual Harassment Tonight –

  61. Infidel Tiger

    Is the quitter Christensen?

  62. Stimpson J. Cat

    We are srr.

    Malik Obama
    Malik Obama
    @ObamaMalik
    ·
    Nov 19
    And Cucks begone!

  63. Tintarella di Luna

    Tehan?

    Laundy?

    Irons?

    They’re all Liberals the article said a Coalition MP — I reckon it’s a National — maybe Andrew Broad

  64. Senile Old Guy

    The age of entitlement:

    But when Nicks took to the stage and launched into her catalogue of hits including Stop Draggin’ My Heart Around and Dreams, Ms George said she was asked to stop dancing. “The security came up about three times and told me to sit down,” she said.

    Told three times to sit down. So, of course, she doesn’t.

    After another patron gave her a spare seat, Ms George said she would stand up to dance when a song came on and then sit down again.

    Disobeys a clear instruction and so…

    “The next minute three of them had me and were dragging me along the floor of the aisle. They threw me out of the stadium,” she said. The Kew woman said the incident had left her with a sore back and bruises on her arm. She also said she it had caused her to feel depressed and anxious. The security didn’t ask if she had any health conditions before physically grabbing her, she said. “It was just bizarre and totally uncalled for and very aggressive,” she said. “I understand some people don’t want to dance but everyone is entitled to enjoy it the way they want.”

    Utterly, utterly unaware of how stupid she sounds. Published, of course, in the Sydney Moaning Herald. And they expect people to pay for this trash.

  65. Oh come on

    It’s time to invest heavily in dildo and cat food manufacturers.

    Sex robots, too. After having a colossal whine about the prospect of men taking out “rape fantasies” on a piece of silicone-coated metal, guess who will end up humping a silicone-coated metal leg?

  66. JC

    senile

    She sounds like a 57 year old attention whore. Very funny she was thrown out.

  67. Oh come on

    It does seem rather strange that everyone must sit down at a pop concert, SOG. She didn’t buy tickets to the opera.

  68. Tintarella di Luna

    Utterly, utterly unaware of how stupid she sounds.

    The article oozes her sense of entitlement, rules are not for her

  69. calli

    Unfair on the Zimmer frame audience.

    Chairs and a roof! That’s concert looooxury, that is.

  70. Uh oh

    Has Julie Bishop started saying that the Prime Minister has her full support?

  71. Tintarella di Luna

    She sounds like a 57 year old attention whore.

    Begot of a hipster no doubt

  72. Tintarella di Luna

    Has Julie Bishop started saying that the Prime Minister has her full support?

    Even if she had no-one would believe her.

  73. Infidel Tiger

    In a righteous society all elderly women would be arrested for dancing.

  74. Has Julie Bishop started saying that the Prime Minister has her full support?

    Dunno whether even Mal would want it.

    It does not get washed that often, a bit icky.

    Anyway we will he has her “full support” when things visibly sag (more).

  75. JC

    Is this bullshit?

    The gottster reckons the Australian real estate market is in trouble because the regulators have forced the banks to tighten more on lending.

    Many young real estate agents in our capital cities, led by Sydney and Melbourne, are bewildered by the amount of houses passed in at auctions, the high availability of cheaper inner-city apartments and the desperation of apartment land developers to sell.

    They have never seen these sort of conditions before and so are asking: “How could it have happened?” There are many reasons but none so powerful and potent as what is happening in the lower management levels of some of the big banks.

    It’s conventional to blame APRA and the regulators’ new rules but the credit squeeze motivation goes deeper and I think it is multiplied by a middle management confidence loss stemming from the looming retrenchments, the scandals and now building up to the real possibility of a Royal Commission. Not surprisingly, the bank most caught up by these affairs, the Commonwealth, has been among the most restrictive.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/opinion/robert-gottliebsen/tea-coffee-and-cosmetics-lending-to-blame-for-property-squeeze/news-story/9b26e3910d5a4607d035e781577c0b6b

  76. C.L.

    Let the ladies stand and dance !

  77. JC

    Is there is a real estate fall, ASIC should be to blame, as those arseholes now think they are real estate bubble predictors. I think Westpac was the only bank to tell ASIC to go fuck themselves.

  78. Gab

    I am eternally grateful to Jacques for foiling CL’s attempts to get us to watch Gillard prancing around.

  79. Joe

    The gottster reckons the Australian real estate market is in trouble because the regulators have forced the banks to tighten more on lending.

    Or maybe it’s China cracking down on foreign hideaways.

  80. JC

    CL.. We should be able to splice that vid with Billy Idiol’s song.

  81. Oh come on

    Had a discussion with a feminist friend last night about what’s going on. She sees sexism everywhere. Everywhere! When I commented to her about the Roy Moore allegations, her very first reaction was ‘he wouldn’t be getting a pass if he molested boys’. She genuinely thinks it’s because Alabama voters care more about boys than girls. I said that it is probably true that Moore would have no chance if he’d have targeted boys rather than girls, although this is surely because a gay man would have great trouble getting elected as an Alabama senator. Nope, it must be sexism.

    Our conversation ran dry when I said that by the standards of campus feminists, I am a “rape crime victim”. A survivor. One of the One In Four. Additionally, over the years, I have been sexually harassed and made to feel uncomfortable by women on several occasions. I asked her what should be done about this. I think maybe we’re not friends anymore.

  82. .

    Andrew Hastie is now copping all kinds of abuse over his decision to abstain from voting on ssmarriage.

    That’s not cool. Very intolerant!

    Penny Wong’s idea is basically to legalise trolling, impliedly repeal s 28A of the SDA and ignore art. 18 of the ICCPR. Thank god the ALP want that Kuznetsov Dreyfus as AG instead of her.

  83. JC

    Or maybe it’s China cracking down on foreign hideaways.

    Chinese capital flows haven’t changed much, although monthly figures are to figure out.

  84. The Deplorable Barking Toad

    C.L. @10:10

    You deserve to be sent to hell for posting that

  85. JC

    If you play CL vid to Billy Idols song I linked to, the girls seem to be synching really well.

  86. .

    The gottster reckons the Australian real estate market is in trouble because the regulators have forced the banks to tighten more on lending.

    I wonder if they’re overstepping their charter by doing the RBA’s work?

    There might be a crash because of that. Supply is still going to be tight before and after. Remember when SW Sydney prices dropped in 2007-2008? Those discounts don’t exist anymore.

  87. JC

    Dot

    People violently disagree with me, but the GFC was caused by regulators and an over zealous federal reserve.

    Period. End of story.

  88. .

    Infidel Tiger
    #2560506, posted on November 21, 2017 at 9:34 am
    I read the Vox story on Glenn Thrush. He sounds like a loser who is a bit awkward when he hits on women. So what? If chicks can’t handle a man putting his hand on their thigh in a lame attempt to show interest, then billions of Sheilas are going to die alone and dildo sales are going to sky rocket.

    OTOH the new puritanical mania destroying leftism is rather beautiful.

    This is the intellectual head of feminism.

    That is what they want.

    Feminists will ban sexbots. This is a real double standard. Men who watch porn etc are perverts. Owning 10 dildos is empowering.

    Male=Oppressive
    Female=Empowering

    How the Olympics is exposing feminist hypocrisy

    Imagine if old Harv’ did that to Jennifer Lawerence on morning TV.

  89. .

    People violently disagree with me, but the GFC was caused by regulators and an over zealous federal reserve.

    It could well have but I think that there was basically some macro factors that could not be reconciled on top of the macro factors washing through a shitty regulatory framework.

  90. André M

    JC quotes

    bewildered by the amount of houses passed in at auctions, the high availability of cheaper inner-city apartments and the desperation of apartment land developers to sell.

    The central planners at the ANU are convinced that high housing prices are not due to land restrictions and this means there is over supply of houses.

    The analysis estimates the nation’s housing oversupply at 164,000, or 32,000 if the significant increase in unoccupied dwellings is excluded.

    If the houses being built are not what people want then there is still a shortage.

  91. John Constantine

    Chinese communist party signs massive multi pronged silk road deal with Papua New Guinea.

    Julie Bishop assures everybody she is doing all she can to accelerate the deindustrialising of Australia, and would never act in a colonialist way in the Pacific.

    As Zimbabwe proves, it isn’t colonialism when the Chinese communist party takes the empty niche that racist settler westerners used to fill.

  92. .

    The analysis estimates the nation’s housing oversupply at 164,000, or 32,000 if the significant increase in unoccupied dwellings is excluded.

    …and the manpower required to let these dwellings is going to come from where?

    “Oversupply” – more post-Soviet communist trash. Before the Sovs fell, they would have argued that the Soviets had oversupply. Losing he cold war is why this “happiness studies” bullshit was cooked up. When they lost that, they turned to feminism and race baiting.

  93. calli

    The spectacle of Boomers (who stuck it to da Man!) back in the day bleating to the fuzz to take down an elderly solo dancer is delicious. At a Stevie Nicks concert no less!

    For the hedonist in all of us.

    😃

  94. notafan

    This is what happens when you post your antics on Facebook.

    Watching closely to see outcome for the Our Lady and Baby Jesus beheader vis-à-vis overpainter of blasphemy Ben.


    Arrest over vandalism at Sydney church

  95. John Constantine

    NMM noble metals, company that deals in cash and gold and precious metals in Columbia.

    Had some accounting irregularities come to light and been suspended from trading all year.

    http://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20171121/pdf/43pdy2qjtbx8z8.pdf

    Retiring to spend more time with the family can be code for something completely different.

    “remaining directors treat this as something quite serious”

    [ yes i did have some cash in this as a play to reap a peace dividend from Columbia, but never put much into a place with a frontier approach to the rule of law.]

  96. calli

    Oops, misplaced parenthesis. I blame the bifocals.

  97. notafan

    The spectacle of Boomers (who stuck it to da Man!) back in the day bleating to the fuzz to take down an elderly solo dancer is delicious. At a Stevie Nicks concert no less!

    I bet they were all cringing with embarrassment and yes they should be penalties for middle aged booty shaking.

    Most people take their cues from those around them.

    57 however is not elderly!

  98. johanna

    Hey calli, how does your garden grow?

    The gelseminium sempervirens has started to deliver. It did nothing till early Spring, when it became a mass of yellow, bell shaped flowers. Sensational. When the flowers died, it finally started to grow. The main point of buying it was to cover the ugly back fence, and the tendrils are now growing 1-2cm per day. I have put up a cheap lattice, bought from the local Chinese ‘we sell everything’ emporium.

    I’ve stuck some seeds from the white Agapanthus in the ground, and some in a pot. Here’s hoping.

    Can any Cats tell me what the massive balls of netting and debris on the end of branches of a small callistemon are? I cut last year’s lot off and got rid of them, but they are back.

    Unknown ‘yellow carpet rose’ is in bud. Giant roo paws are now over 2m tall, and not yet in full flower. They will turn my plain white loungeroom into a designer delight very soon. Tree fern has smaller ferns coming up in the base of the pot, most welcome for shade and humidity in this harsh climate.

    Oh, and I put out the first batch of snailbait this season. The buggers are using my fernery like a smorgasbord. Die! Die you bastards!

    Pant, pant, pant.

    I am still at war with milkweed and onion grass, one I suspect will never end.

  99. JC

    It always starts with the garden and then a massive flip out.

  100. JC

    You get to learn pattern recognition on the Mindhunter series. I would have a great FBI profiler. One of the great ones.

  101. You’d be embarrassed making this stuff up, Their Very Own Horse’s Head does it instinctively.

    Because running a country is exactly the same as running a year 12 feminism symposium, only different.

  102. Chris

    It always starts with the garden and then a massive flip out.

    Just as well there is no access to dangerous types of guns.
    Johanna, may a recommend neighbours with chooks. throwing the snails into the chook pen results in enormous satisfaction (and better eggs).

  103. OldOzzie

    Australians should read this and weep – where Australia should be but for Labor/Greens/Liberals

    Retail electricity prices also vary significantly from state-to-state. For instance, Louisiana had the lowest overall electric rates from 2015 to 2016, powered by inexpensive and abundant natural gas, at 7.53 cents per kilowatt-hour. At 7.55 cents per kilowatt-hour, Washington State was close behind with its large production of low cost hydropower. At the other end of the scale was Connecticut, with an overall retail electric price of 17.52 cents per kilowatt-hour, more than double the price in Louisiana.

    Does your gas and electricity cost too much? You can thank liberals for that

  104. Snoopy

    The analysis estimates the nation’s housing oversupply at 164,000, or 32,000 if the significant increase in unoccupied dwellings is excluded.

    I don’t understand this statement at all. There is both occupied over supply and unoccupied over supply?

  105. notafan

    The rebel-held enclave of East Ghouta in Syria is facing a critical humanitarian crisis, the UN and local activists say, as government bombing and siege tactics kill dozens of civilians and bring many more to the brink of starvation.

    Shades of West Aleppo, which Western Progressives dropped like a hot potato when the claims of thousands massacred did not materialise.

    Yet another exciting rescue of a little one by the White Helmets.

    Have the MSM picked up the Ghouta story, doesn’t appear that way when I just did a quick scan of google.

    Syrias eastern ghouta region faces critical humanitaian crisis

  106. C.L.

    Our conversation ran dry when I said that by the standards of campus feminists, I am a “rape crime victim”. A survivor. One of the One In Four. Additionally, over the years, I have been sexually harassed and made to feel uncomfortable by women on several occasions. I asked her what should be done about this. I think maybe we’re not friends anymore.

    This USA Today report was linked by Instapundit yesterday: A rape epidemic — by women?

    The figures are from the CDC.

    In short, men are raped by women at nearly the same rate women are raped by men …

    … when the definition of rape — or, as it’s often now called in order to provide less clarity, “sexual assault” — expands to include a lot more than behavior distinguished by superior physical strength, the incidence of rape goes up, and behavior engaged in by women is more likely to be included in the definition. (At juvenile detention centers nine out of 10 reporters of sexual assault are males victimized by female staffers.)

    Thus, as Young points out, the CDC finds that men make up over a third of the victims of “sexual coercion,” which can include such things as “lies or false promises, threats to end a relationship or spread negative gossip, or ‘making repeated requests’ for sex and expressing unhappiness at being turned down.”

  107. .

    Can’t believe I am linking this:


    Why Frances Abbott’s whirlwind engagement is the way to live for love

    Yes luvvie dear, because the upside under family law is all hers.

  108. Arky;

    Reference srr return petition.

    As much as the lunacy is annoying, there were some valuable links amongst the trash.
    A seperate newsletter is a good idea.
    With a one subject a day limitation.
    On probation.

  109. Infidel Tiger

    I have no doubt there is a huge oversupply of apartments. There is also a massive undersupply of affordable houses.

    Young families do not want to live in dog boxes but the developers and governments are conspiring to make they do so.

  110. C.L.

    Here is a woman who should be fired – and would be fired if the genders were reversed …
    MSNBC anchor says Rand Paul assault “one of her favourite stoies.”

  111. calli

    It’s Webbing Caterpillar, Joh. Cut them off or use a systemic like Success.

  112. H B Bear

    Given the overwhelming No vote in Sydney’s Islamic electorates it’s strange TheirABC didn’t see fit to invite a prominent member of the Muslim community onto the panel.
    Anyway, I’m sure it must have been an oversight.

    Perhaps The Snowcone Variety Hour complimentary Zaky Mallah Lakemba Shuttle was in for service? Perhaps someone could tweet Snowcone to confirm?

  113. thefrolickingmole

    Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)
    #2559831, posted on November 20, 2017 at 8:31 pm

    Vale Srr, who until his death believed that I was an agent of the NWO, a satanist and Bob Ellis

    You are really Bob Ellis’ satanic NWO liver which freed itself from its host after a lifetime of self abuse..

  114. .

    This crap really is all about getting Trump.

    I noticed in that banner in that last video C.L. posted, that Hillary is STILL trying to claim Trump has allegations to answer.

  115. Warning: if you drive this car you will be raping Gaia.

    That just makes me wanna build a replica of the mythical car from Denis Leary’s Asshole.

  116. johanna

    The central planners at the ANU are convinced that high housing prices are not due to land restrictions and this means there is over supply of houses.

    The analysis estimates the nation’s housing oversupply at 164,000, or 32,000 if the significant increase in unoccupied dwellings is excluded.

    If the houses being built are not what people want then there is still a shortage.

    Yeah, I read that pile of crap as well.

    Apparently, the laws of supply and demand don’t apply to housing, because it’s an asset. What tosh.

    The underlying agendum is pretty clear.

    Unoccupied property is evil. What we need is more redistribution. It’s just not fair that (fill in the blanks …).

    As for claiming that there is a nationwide surplus of homes, pull the other one, it plays Jingle Bells. They admit that this includes properties that are for sale, or between tenants. And then there are properties in the country with no employment prospects or amenities. There are properties in cities which are currently uninhabitable. You get the idea.

    Trumpeted by Fauxfacts, of course. I wonder how this fits in with Domain?

  117. Rev. Archibald

    Winston Smith
    #2560620, posted on November 21, 2017 at 11:04 am
    Arky;

    Reference srr return petition.

    As much as the lunacy is annoying, there were some valuable links amongst the trash.
    A seperate newsletter is a good idea.
    With a one subject a day limitation.
    On probation.

    ..
    Email Sinclair.
    I reached my limit for taking on abuse yesterday.
    Espeacially from Gab. That stuff hurts.
    I’m a sensitive soul.

  118. classical_hero

    Dot, your link about the Olympics and feminism is broken.

  119. .

    Here it is

    No silly html

    Just imagine if roles and ages were reversed.

  120. Leigh Lowe

    I noticed in that banner in that last video C.L. posted, that Hillary is STILL trying to claim Trump has allegations to answer.

    Excellent!
    One of the pet hates in the USA is a “sore loser”.
    If Illary and the MSM keep this up the Dems will cop the mother of all hidings in the 2018 mid-terms … and they won’t be able to figure out why.

  121. Rae

    The 57 year old was on the floor area and got told 3 times to move out of peoples view. Was probably twirling around in a cape, ha ha.

  122. johanna

    Has Julie Bishop started saying that the Prime Minister has her full support?

    If she has, he’d better start packing up his designer toothbrush and the rayon kimono he got when he visited Japan.

  123. Boambee John

    Dot at 1030

    OTOH the new puritanical mania destroying leftism is rather beautiful.

    This is the intellectual head of feminism.

    That is what they want.

    Why is the woman(??) in that photo manspreading?

  124. Rev. Archibald

    rayon kimono

    Snork.
    Silkworms and cock- mites are deadly enemies.

  125. zyconoclast

    The situation in France has gotten so desperate that the only way to prevent civil war between Muslim and non-Muslim sections of society is to divide the country in two, one French academic argued. This may seem needlessly drastic, but the push for Sharia (Islamic law) being enshrined in the government may make it necessary.

    What bits would the 10% Moslem population get?
    As the population increased with birthrate and immigration/refugees would this % of land also increase?

    A better option is to bring out the army, start mass deportation of illegals, any dual citizen that interferes or violently protests also gets deported, wind back the welfare state and self-deportation might start to occur.

  126. Philippa Martyr

    You are really Bob Ellis’ satanic NWO liver which freed itself from its host after a lifetime of self abuse..

    Wash your mouth out. As one of Bob Ellis’ alter egos, I must protest.

  127. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    What bits would the 10% Moslem population get?

    An island.

  128. Lysander

    Who saw Four Corners on Lionel Murphy? Some (majority) of their “observers” gushed over Murphy’s effectiveness and intelligence.

    Gareth Evans, for example, completely blew away any conviction or guilt associated to Murphy by saying “he was a brilliant man” along with lines such as “such unbased, unproven and historic claims are preposterous” and even worse because, they are so old, “they cannot be proven.” This was shortly followed by a cabal of supporters saying it was political assassination.

    I wonder if Evans, Bacon and the other Murphy gushers would accept their own words/defence for a certain prominent figure in Victoria being in court over such old claims that they’re untestable and are a political assassination? Oh, the duplicity…

    Surprisingly David Marr wasn’t off his rocker for once. But he is smarter than the others and knows the long game better.

  129. Rev. Archibald

    You are really Bob Ellis’ satanic NWO liver which freed itself from its host after a lifetime of self abuse..

    ..
    IT is more like Bob Ellis’s gallbladder.

  130. C.L.

    Ahahahahahaha.

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump

    Shoplifting is a very big deal in China, as it should be (5-10 years in jail), but not to father LaVar. Should have gotten his son out during my next trip to China instead. China told them why they were released. Very ungrateful!

  131. It is too much to hope for that USSR was banned.

    I just hope he hasn’t been Seth Riched by the lizard people.

  132. Unoccupied property is evil.

    That includes unused bedrooms, while reserving the right to extend that definitions to unused floor space, garages, balconies and outdoor areas.

    It’s what you deserve for raping Gaia, just like I deserve to live in a mansion with servants, private yacht, helicopter and helicopter pad for all the sacrifices I make in taking your money and giving it to mates in return for political favours while keeping a substantial commission for myself.

  133. johanna

    Chris
    #2560607, posted on November 21, 2017 at 10:55 am

    It always starts with the garden and then a massive flip out.

    Just as well there is no access to dangerous types of guns.
    Johanna, may a recommend neighbours with chooks. throwing the snails into the chook pen results in enormous satisfaction (and better eggs).

    Don’t want neighbours with chooks in a city environment, they attract rats and lice. I’ve lived with chooks, and know of what I speak.

    It’s always amusing to see those gormless, ignorant would-be-life-changers on TV who say they want chooks. Do they expect to ever be able to go off for a long weekend again? Or find chook-minders? Eejits.

    My olds had five acres on the fringe of Sydney for a while. It had a dam, ducks, geese and chooks. Paradise, right?

    Well, the ducks and geese shat everywhere, and we are not talking neat pellets here. It was slimy and smelly. Since they hung around the house, that’s where they shat. Especially on the patio.

    The chooks and ducks had to be locked up every night and let out in the morning because of foxes. Not exactly low maintenance. No sleeping in allowed, or they went bonkers.

    The old man had to hire a goat to eat the thistles which blew in from next door and quickly grew up to a metre high all around the dam.

    There are very good reasons why people prefer to live in and around cities.

  134. Snoopy

    It’s a pity Bob isn’t alive to witness this year’s shenanigans.

  135. JC

    Monster

    Stop gloating. It’s a bad look for a marginal commenter like you.

  136. It is too much to hope for that USSR was banned.

    I just hope he hasn’t been Seth Riched by the lizard people.

    You’re still here, Muttley. Don’t ever talk to me about injustice ever again.

  137. Snoopy

    There are very good reasons why people prefer to live in and around cities.

    Who would have guessed that Johanna and JC were kindred spirits?

  138. zyconoclast

    Surprisingly David Marr wasn’t off his rocker for once. But he is smarter than the others and knows the long game better.

    I know I posted this yesterday but since someone else mentioned Marr and Murphy, it is worth another run.

    Fellow National Times journalist David Marr said Murphy ignited passions.
    “People loved Murphy. They really loved him. He was a rogue and he was known to be a rogue and his roguery was celebrated,” he said.

  139. There are very good reasons why people prefer to live in and around cities.

    For the green wannabes, nature sucks, unless you’re simply looking at it from afar.

  140. Shy Ted

    Dr Faustus

    #2560516, posted on November 21, 2017 at 9:42 am

    Malcolm Turnbull dangles middle-income tax cut during Business Council of Australia speech

    “I am actively working with the Treasurer and my Cabinet colleagues to ease the burden on middle-income Australians, while also meeting our commitment to return the budget to surplus,” Mr Turnbull said.
    Come on Dr Faustus, the whole quote please –
    “I am actively working with the Treasurer and my Cabinet colleagues to ease the burden on middle-income Australians, while also meeting our commitment to return the budget to surplus,” Mr Turnbull said. “We will be pumping the money back up the Snowy Mountains and when it flows down there will be more of it. Don’t know why no-one thought of it before but that’s why I’m the greatest PM ever I suppose.”

  141. Snoopy

    Nature’s apogee is the golf course.

  142. Rev. Archibald

    Stop gloating. It’s a bad look for a marginal commenter like you

    ..
    If he is marginal I would like to see an unprofitable one.

  143. Joe

    For the green wannabes, nature sucks, unless you’re simply looking at it from afar.

    Which is why I advocate turning power and water off for all electorates that vote green.

  144. johanna

    calli
    #2560623, posted on November 21, 2017 at 11:06 am

    It’s Webbing Caterpillar, Joh. Cut them off or use a systemic like Success.

    So it is, thanks. Apparently they are common in this part of the world.

    Guess I’ll just cut the branches off and cook them in a plastic bag in the wheelie bin, which is what I did last year. The good thing is, a bit of pruning never hurts these kinds of plants.

    Thanks again!

  145. Leigh Lowe

    Ha, ha.
    Every time the Dems go the sex scandal slur on Republicans, all roads always lead back to Bill Clinton.

  146. H B Bear

    Is this bullshit?

    The gottster reckons the Australian real estate market is in trouble because the regulators have forced the banks to tighten more on lending.

    Gottliebsen has been talking Harry Triguboff’s book for weeks. The 200,000 a year immigration ponzi isn’t allowing Harry to pump out his dogboxes fast enough apparently.

  147. zyconoclast

    Twitter will monitor users behavior off platform

    Twitter is cracking down on hate speech and not just by looking at its own site.

    In what amounts to a major shift in Twitter policy, the company announced on Friday that it will be monitoring user’s behavior “on and off the platform” and will suspend a user’s account if they affiliate with violent organizations, according to an update to Twitter’s Help Center on Friday.

    “You also may not affiliate with organizations that — whether by their own statements or activity both on and off the platform — use or promote violence against civilians to further their causes,” the update reads.

    Twitter isn’t taking action immediately. Rather, it’s given users until December 18, 2017 when it will then begin enforcing the rule. The month-long wait is due to regulations in the European Union that require companies to inform users of a new policy change 30 days prior to enforcement.

    The Dec. 18 deadline also applies to using “hateful images or symbols” in profile images or profile headers. Twitter will also monitor for hate speech in usernames, display names, and profile bios.

    This new rule closes a loophole that Twitter’s critics had long pointed out: That known white supremacists and others affiliated with hate groups could still use the platform to send a sanitized version of their message and use their followers to bolster their overall profile.

    It’s unclear how exactly Twitter will prioritize taking action and how much will come from user reports versus its own monitoring.

    “The updates to the rules today will be enforced starting December 18. We’ll also have more details on these policies to share that day,” a Twitter spokesperson wrote in an emailed statement.

    These changes comes amid aggressive moves by Twitter to curb abuse and harassment on the site after more than a decade of essentially letting the abusers operate freely.

    Over the last week, Twitter has taken action against the accounts of white supremacists. Twitter permanently banned Tim “Treadstone” Gionet, a prominent alt-right troll more widely known as Baked Alaska, earlier this week. It also removed the verification badges of Jason Kessler, one of the organizers of the racist Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, and of alt-right activist Richard Spencer.

    Twitter’s decision to monitor users off site sparked concern from free speech advocates such as Andrew Torba, founder of social network Gab. “This is a scary precedent to set,” he wrote in an email to Mashable. “Rules like this will only force dissidents and those who are speaking truth to power to silence themselves or risk being silenced by Twitter.”

  148. .

    Is there a native garden open to the public where there are no eucalypts? They are the scourge of the Australian landscape.

    The other plants are quite majestic.

  149. zyconoclast

    MUSLIMS RIOT IN BRUSSELS – Stores Looted, Christmas Market Attacked

    Last week Moroccans rioted in Brussels after Morocco qualified for the World Cup.

    Hundreds of Moroccans flooded the streets, broke windows and started fires.

  150. Whalehunt Fun

    A better option is to bring out the army, start mass deportation of illegals, any dual citizen that interferes or violently protests also gets deported, wind back the welfare.

    No. Deportation costs money. Cheaper to offer a small bounty for the severed head of any proponent of sharia. Private enterprise will do a better job faster than some stupid socialist govt scheme. And it would apply to citizens as well as dual citizens and non citizens.

  151. zyconoclast

    The other plants are quite majestic.

    I know they will never be able to sit in parliament but is there anything more glorious in November than Jacarandas

  152. Philippa Martyr

    “You also may not affiliate with organizations that — whether by their own statements or activity both on and off the platform — use or promote violence against civilians to further their causes,” the update reads.

    So now it’s a church. The First Church of Twitter.

    Tax-exempt status is only a heartbeat away.

  153. .

    So is their solvency-exempt status.

  154. notafan

    Is there a native garden open to the public where there are no eucalypts? They are the scourge of the Australian landscape.

    The other plants are quite majestic.

    #banthegum I say

    I don’t mind the odd one or two, at a distance but my garden is #gumfree.

    Deciduous, please.

  155. notafan

    Leigh Lowe

    who monitors the monitors?

    I wonder how long this will go on?

  156. H B Bear

    I know they will never be able to sit in parliament but is there anything more glorious in November than Jacarandas

    Now planted by every council everywhere as street trees. Yawn. Drop stuff constantly. Pain in the arse.

  157. Roger

    “You also may not affiliate with organizations that — whether by their own statements or activity both on and off the platform — use or promote violence against civilians to further their causes,” the update reads.

    Would that include the ALP? CFMEU?

  158. jupes

    I know they will never be able to sit in parliament but is there anything more glorious in November than Jacarandas

    No. Just the most beautiful sight as you fly in to Sydney on a November day.

    Now planted by every council everywhere as street trees. Yawn. Drop stuff constantly. Pain in the arse.

    What happened Humphrey, couldn’t find your pants again?

  159. Fisky

    Haha even the immigration pozi scam won’t save the property market!

  160. feelthebern

    From your post, zyconoclast, there was a link to a Clinton donor who committed suicide.
    Seriously, who would want to have anything to do with them.
    At some stage, you’re going to end up like Joe Pesci at the end of Casino.

  161. Roger

    Interesting stats from Peter Hitchens’s Mail on Sunday column:

    It [SS”M”] was a tiny issue. In 2014, for example, in England and Wales, there were 247,372 heterosexual weddings, and 4,850 same-sex marriages. Already there are several hundred same-sex divorces each year.

    Statistically tiny, but not insignificant in its cultural impact. As Hitchens goes on to acknowledge, the end game is to obliterate the categories of male and female altogether. An agenda the Liberal Party is, wittingly or unwittingly, spearheading.

  162. JC

    Fisky There are three factors that impact the real estate market.

    1. cost/supply of credit

    2. supply

    3. employment prospects.

    The argument is that the units being built don’t suit potential buyers. That may be true. but the impact may only be felt in that sector or the market.

  163. Fisky

    This guy is GOOD!

    Vote Moore!

    Judge Roy Moore‏ @MooreSenate
    5h5 hours ago

    Mitch McConnell loved being top Senate Republican under Obama. He didn’t have to do anything.

    But now, he blocks the MAGA agenda.

    His life would be easier with one less Republican. SAD!

  164. jupes

    Another great article from Steyn:

    The left’s glamorization of violence is a cliché because it’s real – because all over the western world dweeby, spindly, trustie-fundie varsity youth who couldn’t shoot up a liquor store or cut it in MS-13 instead get turned on by political violence. As upper-middle-class suburban cheerleader Bernadine Dohrn crowed to a crowd of 400 “activists” about three months after the Manson murders:

    Dig it! First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, then they even shoved a fork into the pig Tate’s stomach! Wild!

    The crowd then adopted a fork-style hand gesture as a symbol of solidarity.

    Oh, but surely Miss Dohrn was only a misguided child …pushing thirty. Or a decade older than the young men who liberated Europe two years after she was born.

    Miss Dohrn retired a couple of years ago as a professor at Northwestern University School of Law. Her husband is Bill Ayers, mentor to and patron of the 44th President of the United States.

    RTWT

  165. Roger

    Haha even the immigration pozi scam won’t save the property market!

    Expect a politician to suggest housing refugees in the empty apartments at present market rates (paid for by you and me) despite the glut. The government presently houses many newly arrived refugees in motels and boarding houses because the organisations that provide housing for refugees don’t have the funding to keep up with demand. We are governed by idiots.

  166. thefrolickingmole

    Poor buggers, I like that the Poms are assisting as well.

    Argentina’s navy says fresh noises are not from missing submarine
    Sounds detected during search for ARA San Juan came from ‘biological source’
    Search enters critical phase amid concern oxygen running out

    The navy has also revealed the submarine’s last communication, on Wednesday, was to report a mechanical breakdown related to its batteries. Captain Gabriel Galeazzi, who runs the naval base in Mar del Plata, which was the submarine’s destination, said mechanical problems were not uncommon and rarely posed a risk.

    The announcement regarding the noises dashed hopes raised by a CNN report on Monday that stated the sounds could be crew members banging tools against the hull. “The sounds are not from the submarine and do not correspond to a pattern that could be interpreted as Morse code,” Balbi said.

    The five-day search has entered a “critical phase”, the navy said, because the submarine is approaching the probable limit of its oxygen reserves.

  167. John Constantine

    What happens when Victoria and south Australia both have to loot Australian diesel storage reserves to run their diesel gennies to save the electricity grid?.

    No diesel for farming or trucks, just all tipped into the power grid.

    Will private hoarding of diesel be considered theft from the State?.

  168. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Why aren’t fruit trees planted on the streetscape everywhere?

    I have a lot of questions about stuff.

  169. Makka

    Miss Dohrn retired a couple of years ago as a professor at Northwestern University School of Law. Her husband is Bill Ayers, mentor to and patron of the 44th President of the United States.

    Wow!

  170. Dave in Marybrook

    Yep, I think great caution is needed with Jacaranda placement.
    Impenetrably deep shade through winter, anything underneath is scorched when they drop leaves rapidly in Nov, and a minefield of bees for the kids on the pretty fallen blossoms in Dec.

  171. Roger

    Why aren’t fruit trees planted on the streetscape everywhere?

    I have a lot of questions about stuff.

    I imagine it’s because they’re high maintenance.

  172. notafan

    Why aren’t fruit trees planted on the streetscape everywhere?

    Go do Spain there are orange trees everywhere, oh famous not dead yet Bob

  173. .

    Low hanging fruit Augustin? What about the DPRK, it is a happy place with abundant fruit!

  174. Dave in Marybrook

    Streetscape fruit trees attract disease and vermin, and undermine rural produce when it’s concurrently at its local best. And they’re high maintenance.
    Mind you, quinces, pomegranates, figs, and proper Afghan mulberries would be beaut. Robert Grave’s mystical foursome- low maintenance, tough, and droughtproof. But I suppose that they grow too slowly- town councillors want instant results, and an instant nest full of feathers for their own patches.

  175. Leigh Lowe

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    #2560746, posted on November 21, 2017 at 12:45 pm

    Why aren’t fruit trees planted on the streetscape everywhere?

    The Potato Marketing Board won’t allow it.

  176. Bruce of Newcastle

    Why aren’t fruit trees planted on the streetscape everywhere?

    Date palms for our new overlords?

  177. Roger

    …a minefield of bees for the kids on the pretty fallen blossoms in Dec.

    Not to mention the decaying flowers make hard surfaces slippery.

    Odd choice for footpaths, then; best left to botanical gardens.

  178. johanna

    Snoopy
    #2560683, posted on November 21, 2017 at 12:00 pm

    There are very good reasons why people prefer to live in and around cities.

    Who would have guessed that Johanna and JC were kindred spirits?

    When it comes to not romanticising ‘life on the land,’ we may well be.

    But, don’t get carried away.

  179. PoliticoNT

    Dot – one for you over on the Cable article.

  180. Leigh Lowe

    Leigh Lowe

    who monitors the monitors?

    I wonder how long this will go on?

    During the 2016 campaign and even now, it never ceases to amaze me that the Clinton Clan continue to play hopscotch in the minefield of sexual abuse allegations…
    Trump, Trump, Moore, Trump, BANG, BANG.

  181. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    In my backyard I have a passion fruit vine, mulberry tree, lime tree, lemon tree, peach tree and a loquat tree.

    On my verge I have a damn box tree.This is highly undesirable.

    Children could wander the street eating fresh produce if we got our act together.

  182. JC

    Snoopy

    Hardly the same. Hefferlump lives in the sticks or so she says. I love the bush … from 35,000 up looking down.

  183. H B Bear

    Why aren’t fruit trees planted on the streetscape everywhere?
    Go do Spain there are orange trees everywhere, …

    An upmarket brownfields subdivision planted lemons as street trees, no doubt after some developers Tuscan holiday. As soon as the blocks were sold and the place handed over to the council any care stopped and now they all look terrible.

  184. Leigh Lowe

    Just saw a chick wearing shorts in Clarendon St, South Melbourne…
    “You’ve got a very pretty face”, I said. “Pity it is tattooed on the front of your thigh.”

  185. thefrolickingmole

    Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Have you seen a mulberry tree after a pack of feral kids have been at it?

  186. Bruce of Newcastle

    Children could wander the street eating fresh produce if we got our act together.

    In season I collect the lemons off my front lawn regularly. The cockies pick them off the lemon tree over the road, fly up to the red gum in my yard, eat the pips from inside the lemon then drop them. One landed with a loud *bong* on the letterbox just in front of me early this year, it still has juice stains all over it. Don’t stand under a cockatoo with a lemon.

    Now what was it you were saying about fruit trees along the streets Infi?

  187. .

    Leigh Lowe
    #2560777, posted on November 21, 2017 at 1:06 pm
    Just saw a chick wearing shorts in Clarendon St, South Melbourne…
    “You’ve got a very pretty face”, I said. “Pity it is tattooed on the front of your thigh

    Picture me trollin’

  188. Dave in Marybrook

    Fruit trees be damned, we’ve missed a trick here-
    With a constant supply of ex-household water, handy labour from high population density, and higher night-time temperature from the urban heat island effect…
    Streetscapes should be converted to market gardens!!!!!
    Our kids could wander the streets eating fresh leafy greens and carrots, much better food that sugary, high acid fruit. A longer growing season, virtually productive year-round!

  189. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    is there anything more glorious in November than Jacarandas

    They do look lovely in November but for the rest of the year they act as weed plants, growing too big and spindly and impossible to easily prune as every cut lobs out three more corms. Their leaves are a nightmare in gutters, drains and in swimming pools where they clog filters. They have no place around houses and outdoor entertainment areas, where ours is situated, and when they obstruct harbor views (as ours does on a terrace) they should not be protected (as they are) from a little judicious shaping to allow some sun and vista (nor should any tree be so protected on your own property, imho). They are an introduced species from South America, NTTAWWT, as our native trees also have weed-like features.
    I love trees but am against tree worship.

  190. JC

    So am I dude, so am I

    The chief executive of Credit Suisse sees strong appetite for UK real estate despite the country’s plans to leave the EU, adding that he is optimistic about the broader European Union for the first time in his career.

    Discussing property investment at an exclusive event hosted by Mansion Global, Financial News and The Times and Sunday Times newspapers, Tidjane Thiam singled out real estate as his top asset class in recent years. Asked by News Corp chief executive Robert Thomson which investment classes had performed well since the financial crisis, Thiam said: “Property did very well. The numbers are truly striking.”

    He added: “We remain bullish on property. We think that real estate is going to continue to outperform and return close to 6%. If you look at investment grade fixed income, equities… close to 6% is very good.”

    Thiam said the Brexit vote had not deterred foreign buyers from eyeing UK assets.

    “After Brexit, when I would see clients in Asia, they were all determined to buy, they were just trying to time it between the depreciation of the pound which was expected and the economic pressures.

    “I don’t think that the long term view on the UK has been negatively impacted. I think [clients] are just trying to time coming in. If you look at listed equities in UK real estate there’s about a 20% discount to net asset value. People see that as a potential entrance point.”

    ‘For the first time possibly in my career I am positive on Europe and the eurozone, which is refreshing for me’

    Two landmark London buildings have been sold to Asian buyers so far this year. In March, British Land and Oxford Properties struck a deal to sell The Leadenhall Building, known as The Cheesegrater, to China’s C C Land for £1.15bn. And in July, Landsec and Canary Wharf Group agreed to sell London’s ‘Walkie Talkie’ building, at 20 Fenchurch Street, to China’s LKK for about £1.3bn

    On the attraction of different regions’ property markets, Thiam said: “If you ask us, we like eurozone, followed by the UK, followed by Asia — mostly developed Asia, Singapore.”

    Asked by Thomson about the macroeconomic outlook, Thiam said the US and China were both performing well economically, and added: “For the first time possibly in my career… I am positive on Europe and the eurozone, which is refreshing for me.”

  191. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Fruit trees be damned

    No. I am busy making an orchard in our bottom garden area. 🙂

  192. C.L.

    Why aren’t fruit trees planted on the streetscape everywhere?

    Squirrels.

  193. JC

    Leigh..

    Say you didn’t say that to her. Say it ain’t so. 🙂

  194. Philippa Martyr

    Dogs would piss on the blueberry bushes for the kids to snack on.

    Fruit trees would be stripped silently and night, and the produce sold locally or in other areas.

    Bogans would ringbark the blood oranges.

    Cats would make anything sandy their local litter tray.

    The cockies and other destructive wildlife would multiply richly.

    Rabbits. Don’t even get me started about rabbits.

    I hate Nature.

  195. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    “You’ve got a very pretty face”, I said. “Pity it is tattooed on the front of your thigh

    Beats the red backed spider I saw, tattooed across square feet of flab, over a highly visible case of “tradies crack”…

  196. C.L.

    After an observation by IT the other day, I decided to give McDonalds a go for lunch. Haven’t eaten a Maccas for years. Got a chicken classic burger and fries. Incredibly good.

  197. Philippa Martyr

    We have a kitchen garden at my house, and a LOT OF CAT NETTING, which keeps the more predatory birds out.

    This also means we have slightly more grubs and pests than normal, so I have to use EcoOil quite a bit on the citrus. But the blueberries have been prodigal this year.

    Samuel Fleabag Montefiore shows a slight tendency to piddle under the lemon tree, but that may not be a bad thing.

  198. Dave in Marybrook

    Lizzie, I’m all for fruit trees.
    But it’s daft to ask town councils to grow them on our behalf.

  199. Ragu

    Why aren’t fruit trees planted on the streetscape everywhere?

    Unless the fruit is picked, it falls to the ground and rots.

    Think about it for a second. Shit everywhere rotting because its too much for the fruit bats to handle.

  200. Beertruk

    Why aren’t fruit trees planted on the streetscape everywhere?

    Flying fox invasion.

  201. Leigh Lowe

    thefrolickingmole

    #2560779, posted on November 21, 2017 at 1:07 pm

    Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Have you seen a mulberry tree after a pack of feral kids have been at it?

    Absolutely no plausible deniability when you’ve been scrumping mulberries.
    No need for CSI forensics.

  202. johanna

    notafan
    #2560714, posted on November 21, 2017 at 12:22 pm

    Is there a native garden open to the public where there are no eucalypts? They are the scourge of the Australian landscape.

    The other plants are quite majestic.

    #banthegum I say

    I don’t mind the odd one or two, at a distance but my garden is #gumfree.

    Deciduous, please.

    That is one of the things that makes the Canberra/Queanbeyan area magnificent.

    Tens of thousands of European, Asian and American (N & S) trees and shrubs and flowers have been planted. Too late to turn back that clock, much as the nativists would like it.

    As in Canberra, we have great skylines of old trees. Also by the river, which runs right through the centre of town, a bit like Parramatta, lots of parks and walkways.

    There’s no harm in being in a bellwether seat. 🙂

  203. In 2014, for example, in England and Wales, there were 247,372 heterosexual weddings, and 4,850 same-sex marriages.

    What these figures show again is that homosexuals constitute less than 2% of the population, and yet this was used to redefine marriage.

  204. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Squirrels.

    They are a nightmare.

    I will never forget chasing a pack of them around the Fitzroy Gardens one night after a few ales. Some people thought they were possums, but I knew better.

  205. C.L.

    The chief executive of Credit Suisse sees strong appetite for UK real estate despite the country’s plans to leave the EU …

    Why would Brexit affect desire for real estate?
    Until Brussels regulates the British banana trade again, I cannot buy this lovely village pub.

    ?

  206. feelthebern

    Passion fruit vines make excellent wicket keepers in back yard cricket.

  207. Leigh Lowe

    JC

    #2560795, posted on November 21, 2017 at 1:17 pm

    Leigh..

    Say you didn’t say that to her. Say it ain’t so. 🙂

    Sometimes stuff just comes out.
    I think I need a moderator for my mouth.

  208. Leigh Lowe

    feelthebern

    #2560813, posted on November 21, 2017 at 1:25 pm

    Passion fruit vines make excellent wicket keepers in back yard cricket.

    In the right spot they will be keeper plus four slips and a gully in no time.

  209. Rev. Archibald

    Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)
    #2560746, posted on November 21, 2017 at 12:45 pm
    Why aren’t fruit trees planted on the streetscape everywhere?

    ..
    Fucking communist.

  210. C.L.

    Are we giving refugees complimentary motorcycles now?

    A refugee injured in a motorcycle crash on Nauru has been vomiting blood, his friend says.

    The Refugee Action Coalition said the man was injured in a crash between two motorbikes on Saturday (local time).

    The collision happened on the Fly Camp Road, the same road where a refugee was killed in another motorcycle crash on November 2.

    ABC Online.

  211. .

    Are we giving refugees complimentary motorcycles now?

    No welfare, no problems. Makes “Spock” meme of astonishment at the same time.

  212. thefrolickingmole

    The collision happened on the Fly Camp Road, the same road where a refugee was killed in another motorcycle crash on November 2.

    Remember, its just like what the Nazis did to the dead sea pedestrians in WW2.

    At some stage the Potemkin village of lefty bullshit on the ‘fugees has to collapse under the weight of its own crap doesnt it?

  213. cynical1

    I read the Vox story on Glenn Thrush. He sounds like a loser who is a bit awkward when he hits on women. So what? If chicks can’t handle a man putting his hand on their thigh in a lame attempt to show interest, then billions of Sheilas are going to die alone and dildo sales are going to sky rocket.

    Nothing that a little payout won’t fix.

    Nothing fixes repressed memories like the smell of money.

  214. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    In my backyard I have a passion fruit vine, mulberry tree, lime tree, lemon tree, peach tree and a loquat tree.

    We don’t have peach and loquat (stone fruit requires a lot of attention), but we do have an established mulberry, a small bay laurel and two small lemon trees, all planted a few years before we arrived. We have just planted an edible-fig tree, two olive trees and an orange tree and all are doing well although not yet real trees. All the fruit tress were struggling in some undergrowth and overshadowed by a coral tree (since legally removed) when we purchased our place, but a good prune and some seasol has regenerated the mulberry well, the two lemons also, the laurel not so much yet. The back garden is well-fenced from kids and I intend to make mulberry jam some day, and fig jam if I get the figs before the cockies do. Hairy is eyeing off a passionfruit vine for the back fence, which currently has bourgainvillia coming over from the neighbouring place, and some big old monsteria deliciosa alongside it. We’ve also put in a small row of camellias to pretty the place up down there. I don’t do flowers as I have a black thumb. I am better with trees but more careful with tree choices now than I used to be in other places. A Nicolai gum in a terrace front garden stands testament today to my stupidity, overshadowing the place and protected now by vehement greenies in the inner-west council as it rips up the pathways and heads for the drains. Glad I sold it to greenies in my lefty days. 🙂

  215. thefrolickingmole

    I tried trolling a lefty article on the economy by posting what I thought would be going too far even for them, instead I got agreement…

    “But how will you pay for it? What about debt?”

    No matter what country you’re in, the national debt is probably the biggest thing that everyone talks about and nobody understands.
    Ok lets take this to its obvious conclusion.
    Why tax?
    We can print money and issue debt endlessly without the need to tax, the economy would boom.
    Wouldnt it?

    This person votes…

    Yes indeed. But a sovereign like the UK (with its central bank) does not need to borrow or tax in order to spend.

    Doom it is
    Approaching it comes
    Hope you should be abandoning
    Screwed we are.

  216. Stimpson J. Cat

    So much Facebooking without srrs informative, enlightening, and educating posts.
    Just not the same.
    Sad.

  217. Roger

    At some stage the Potemkin village of lefty bullshit on the ‘fugees has to collapse under the weight of its own crap doesnt it?

    About the third year of a Shorten government, I expect, when the government surveys the number of spare rooms in the land to accommodate the ever increasing number of irregular arrivals, having once again lost control of our maritime border.

  218. This guy is GOOD!

    Vote Moore!

    Now look Fisky, I know USSR hasn’t been here for a while, but that is no reason to go full support for rock spiders. Honour his memory, please.

  219. Ragu

    We can print money and issue debt endlessly without the need to tax, the economy would boom.
    Wouldnt it?

    If everyone had a million dollars, then a bag of chips would cost $1000.

    So what do you prefer. Endless wealth or reasonable prices?

  220. .

    thefrolickingmole
    #2560832, posted on November 21, 2017 at 1:41 pm

    Modern monetary theory.

    https://mises.org/library/upside-down-world-mmt

    That is the stuff that gives me nightmares. It basically is left wing pseudo intellectual dross to cover up Zinbabwean kleptocracy.

    It will end in seignorage, currency and banking collapses and a total breakdown of the economic system.

  221. C.L.

    Conrad Black: Trump may be greatest president of modern times …

    “It is too early to predict whether he will be a successful president or not. But no one relying on the Canadian media would be aware that he has more than doubled the economic growth rate, reduced illegal immigration by about 80 per cent, withdrawn from the insane Paris Climate accord, helped add trillions to U.S. stock market values, created nearly two million new jobs, led the rout of ISIL, and gained full Chinese adherence to the unacceptability of North Korean nuclear military capability. He will probably pass the greatest tax cuts and reforms since Reagan, if not Lyndon Johnson, by Christmas, and may throw out the most unpopular feature of Obamacare, the coercive mandate, with it.”

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/281316/

  222. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    The CONTrollers are doing everything their leaders tell the, It is a UNified atatck against God‘s righteous truth.

  223. thefrolickingmole

    Can i get a factcheck on this load of sweaty bollocks from a $1 magazine?

    http://www.newsweek.com/charles-manson-was-white-supremacist-lets-not-forget-713915

    The article claims manson was a white supremacist, my limited understanding was he wanted a race war where the blacks would win but turds like him would be in charge.

  224. C.L.

    At Townhall: Let’s All Savor The Democrats’ Pervgate Pain.

    Some say that it’s so, so very wrong to take so much pleasure at a scandal in which the heroes of the Democrat Party are all being exposed as handsy, tonguey creeps. But if it’s wrong to laugh at the hilarious comeuppance these hypocrites are suffering, I don’t want to be right. In fact, I want to be super-mega-hyper wrong.

    Liberals have always been a bunch of lying posers pretending to be allies of women, and some of us always knew it was a scam. To see the truth so gloriously revealed, and to watch their humiliating back-pedaling and equivocation, is wonderful…

    And your cartoon of the day:

    https://townhall.com/political-cartoons/2017/11/20/154150

  225. .

    Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)
    #2560846, posted on November 21, 2017 at 1:48 pm
    The CONTrollers are doing everything their leaders tell the, It is a UNified atatck against God‘s righteous truth.

    Christ, I needed that. Those nasty bitchy “women” aren’t going to get away with their crap!

  226. johanna

    Jacarandas and firetrees flowering together in Sydney, magnificent sight.

    My old landlord explainng why he cut down every tree in my back yard, in full Barry Humphries mode:

    ‘They drop leaves.’

    Guy had an aviary full of breeding budgies, and a vegie patch to feed them with. He hated the bush.

    He was over 70, an Old Australian. His wife was in a wheelchair, he cared for her, their house was spotless.

    I suppose that they are all gone now.

  227. Roger

    Modern monetary theory:

    According to many proponents of MMT, “deficits don’t matter” when a sovereign government can issue its own fiat currency, and all the hand wringing over the government’s solvency is absurd.

    I remember this being espoused by Economics graduates in the late ’70s stagflation crisis!

  228. C.L.

    Look at this ridiculous set-up:

    The moment woman films a man who sexually harasses her on the street.

    – A man has been filmed making inappropriate remarks to woman on a daily walk
    – This woman had her smartphone camera on when he said: ‘Nice set of boobs’
    – She told him she would go to police following the encounter north of Brisbane

    Watch the video. She is obviously walking along with her tits out to get a response.
    Police should arrest her.

  229. Oh come on

    Boris, many of us support Moore BECAUSE the allegations are true. You don’t want to elect a pathetic beta cuck to the Senate – just look at that Flake loser!

    That’s right! It’s obvious to any thinking person that Judge Moore is going to come out of this race with his already high moral stature even further enhanced!

  230. Roger

    The article claims manson was a white supremacist, my limited understanding was he wanted a race war where the blacks would win but turds like him would be in charge.

    He wanted to ignite a race war which whites would win.

  231. Fisky

    No welfare, no problems. Makes “Spock” meme of astonishment at the same time.

    Unfortunately, there is welfare and there are problems. Thanks libertarians!

  232. .

    The woman’s husband posted an appeal for other people to come forward on his neighbourhood watch Facebook page on Monday night.

    “Talking to my wife is a crime”

  233. thefrolickingmole

    Roger

    Cheers, Ive never read much on him other than a few bits on the actual murders.
    Knew the “race war” bit was part of his plan but not how it was supposed to pay out other than his little “family” ending up in charge.

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