Monday Forum: November 20. 2017

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  1. JC

    Predictions of 4% global growth next year, which ought to place a bid on commods.

    Morgan Stanley comes up with a 65 cents Aussie next year.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-11-20/morgan-stanley-sees-aussie-sliding-to-65-cents-as-yield-fades

  2. Bruce in WA

    Neil Diamond, Nancy Sinatra and that Gorden Lightfoot number I linked above.

    Oh, come on, Arky. People are going to start thinking you’re a normal human being … like the rest of us!

    Think of your reputation, man!

  3. DrBeauGan

    We spot traders usually sat next/close to the derivatives traders. I recall they were always overriding the model when the expiry date/time was very close.

    Quite right too. A model is only as good as its assumptions. And sometimes a lot worse. People who put their faith in models of anything complicated are gullible nitwits and may be crooks. As a general rule, if your instincts tell you you’re about to do something dumb because you are following a theory you don’t understand, trust your Instincts every time.

  4. Snoopy

    When a bird stays too long in a tree, it invites a stone.

    Ghanaian proverb.

  5. JC

    The millionaire at MIT gives good lectures

    Who’s that?

  6. Oh come on

    Neil Diamond, Nancy Sinatra and that Gorden Lightfoot number I linked above

    I’m sure Arky was about to belt out a Streisandeque lament for srr yesterday.

  7. Ragu

    65 cents.

    That’s us fucked then

  8. Oh come on

    Not really a liberty quote, is it, Snoopy? Ghana needs to up its weight.

  9. Bruce in WA

    The song that every man needs to sing to his loved one at least once. Me, I listen to it once a week … just to remind myself.

  10. Ragu

    When a bird stays too long in a tree, it invites a stone.

    Ghanaian proverb.

    Heard one from a Brazilian the other week

    In times of war, crow is chicken.

  11. Oh come on

    What the hell do Brazilians know about war? FFS.

  12. Snoopy

    What the hell do Brazilians know about war? FFS.

    Wikipedia
    The Brazilian Expeditionary Force or BEF (Portuguese: Força Expedicionária Brasileira; FEB) consisted of about 25,700 men arranged by the army and air force to fight alongside the Allied forces in the Mediterranean Theatre of World War II. This air–land force consisted of (replacements included): a complete Infantry Division, a Liaison flight, and a Fighter squadron.[1]

    It fought in Italy from September 1944 to May 1945, while the Brazilian Navy as well as the Air Force also acted in the Battle of the Atlantic from the middle of 1942 until the end of the war. During the almost eight months of its campaign, fighting at the Gothic Line and in the 1945 final offensive, the BEF managed to take 20,573 Axis prisoners, consisting of two generals, 892 officers, and 19,679 other ranks. Brazil was the only independent South American country to send ground troops to fight overseas, losing 948 men killed in action across all three services during the Second World War.[2][3]

  13. Oh come on

    Dear lord. Snoopy, stop it.

  14. JC

    Ragu
    #2561605, posted on November 22, 2017 at 12:08 am

    65 cents.

    That’s us fucked then

    If commod prices notch up we should be okay. It disguises just how bad we are.

    I met a senior (ish) telco exec on the weekend. He reckons the general feeling about the NBN in telco land is that it can’t any worse in terms of just how bad it is.

    Telco dudes reckon the NBN is like Telecom when it was under government ownerhsip.

    I was told to hold onto my cable internet service as long as possible and avoid anything to do with the NBN, as it’s slower.

  15. .

    Quite right too. A model is only as good as its assumptions. And sometimes a lot worse. People who put their faith in models of anything complicated are gullible nitwits and may be crooks. As a general rule, if your instincts tell you you’re about to do something dumb because you are following a theory you don’t understand, trust your Instincts every time.

    You should read When Genius Failed by Lowenstein.

  16. Zyconoclast

    In times of war, crow is chicken.

    New Venezuelan saying.:
    I wish I had crow to eat.

  17. .

    I was told to hold onto my cable internet service as long as possible and avoid anything to do with the NBN, as it’s slower.

    Bwahaha!

    $250 bn and it will never be completed.

  18. JC

    When this David Morrison-like figure isn’t talking about gender equality like any third wave feminist., he comes out with a truly laughable prognosis on the Australian economy.

    Australia has entered an uncertain chapter of its economic ­history, marked by meagre wage growth, intense global competition among retailers, high household debt and elevated house prices, the Reserve Bank governor has declared.

    In a speech in Sydney last night, Philip Lowe said automation and growing competition from foreign workers were sapping workers’ wages — now growing at their slowest pace in 50 years — and dragging down prices in ways that had confounded the Reserve Bank’s economists.

    “We are still trying to understand this,” Dr Lowe conceded, ­revealing confusion at the top of the nation’s peak economic establishment that has already enveloped its counterparts in ­Europe and the US.

    “In the past, the pressure of competition from globalisation and from technology was felt most acutely in the manufacturing industry. Now these same forces of competition are being felt in an increasingly wide range of services industries.

    “Not only are wage increases low, but some people had been moving out of high-paying jobs associated with the mining sector into lower-paying jobs.”

    Australia has entered an uncertain chapter of its economic ­history, marked by meagre wage growth, intense global competition among retailers, high household debt and elevated house prices, the Reserve Bank governor has declared.

    Dr Lowe said cutting income tax wasn’t a solution to lower wage growth, but could be pursued for “other reasons”.

  19. Ragu

    Not only are wage increases low, but some people had been moving out of high-paying jobs associated with the mining sector into lower-paying jobs.”

    Not by design. There is a difference

  20. JC

    He has a resume that spells danger – a leftist central bank troll. Is there such a thing as a central bank troll. There wasn’t until I read his resume. Keep in mind the Libs appointed this fuck.

    Philip Lowe is an Australian economist who is the current Governor of the Reserve Bank of Australia, having succeeded Glenn Stevens on 18 September 2016. He was previously deputy governor under Stevens from 2012.

    Lowe was born in Wagga Wagga, New South Wales. He attended St Michael’s High School and Trinity Senior High School. Lowe was hired by the RBA straight out of high school, and was initially employed as a clerical worker while he completed his undergraduate commerce degree at the University of New South Wales. He was awarded first-class honours and the University Medal on his graduation in 1985. He later completed a doctorate in 1994 at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), with Paul Krugman as his adviser.

    UNSW and then MIT with Krugman as his advisor is not a red flag to the Libs. Lord, they’re useless.

  21. Ragu

    What’s the Australian equivalent of a Krugman? Alan Kohler?

  22. JC

    FMD. Get a load of this.

    The executives in charge of running the National Disability ­Insurance Scheme spent more than $180 million on consultants and contractors in 16 months, $41.5m of which went to two top-tier private companies for “strategic advice”.

    Leaked financial records from inside the National Disability ­Insurance Agency reveal the scale of outsourced expertise in the fledgling scheme, with the $180m figure from July last year to last month almost triple the $66m spent in 2015-16, taking the total to almost a quarter of a billion dollars.

    The leading recipient of funding was global behemoth Boston Consulting Group, which raked in $21m

    The demands will be unlimited too.

    Mum wants an Ipad and is very angry it’s not arriving in time too.

    Adelaide mother of two Chantelle Care-Wickham said she was extremely frustrated after requesting an iPad and speech app in March for her five-year-old daughter Felicity, who has severe speech and language delays.

    “Five months after making the request, our speech pathologist was sent a letter stating the NDIS had changed its forms and we had to reapply,” Ms Care-Wickham said.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/health/ndis-executives-splash-out-180m-on-strategic-advice/news-story/b6299a237f5eed1d673695ade8beae20

  23. JC

    What’s the Australian equivalent of a Krugman? Alan Kohler?

    Phil Lowe by the looks of it. All he needs is a column in Daily Life and he’s off and going as the Australian Krugman.

  24. OneWorldGovernment

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2561575, posted on November 21, 2017 at 11:44 pm

    hey ohohoh OCO.
    Have you actually done anything in your life?

    Yes! I have called for various measures to be enacted forty years ago!

    You are both ridiculously old and no one cares, especially me because I hadn’t even been born.
    Carry on.

    well done stimpy.

    but ohohoh OCO is talking sh*t.

    what did you do 40 years ago ohohoh?

  25. JC

    WTF

    The government paid the Brotherhood of St. L. Aren’t those fuckers in the charity business expecting to help poor people and the government forks over close to $20 million?

    Many of these contractors are in the outsourced local area ­coordinators system. The financial records obtained by The Australian show $18.5m was paid to the Brotherhood of St Laurence and $6m to LaTrobe Community Health Service for this work.

  26. OneWorldGovernment

    When will Australians recognize that the criminal enablers are the Judiciary?

  27. OneWorldGovernment

    Judiciary = Law Courts

  28. Oh come on

    What were you doing 40 years ago, rocket man?

  29. OneWorldGovernment

    Seeing as we have a yes to make laws about ssm then how about we have a poll about introducing the death penalty Australia wide.

  30. Oh come on

    Holy crapballs. The NDIS is going to bankrupt us proper. It really is. You think Medicare is unsustainable? The NDIS will gobble it up and soon we will all be classified as disabled.

  31. BorisG

    I know people who swear by Maple, mainly because it’s Canadian. MATLAB is good.

    To be honest, I just have happened to be employed by universities that purchased site license. why would I care where it was developed?

  32. OneWorldGovernment

    So ohoh.

    You have done nothing of value in the last 40 years and you have just now worked out that the ndis is a financial crap shoot!

    what is your esteemed opinion of the NBN?

  33. Motelier

    The NDIS is doing what it is designed to do.

    The productive people in Australia are now realizing this and will soon find ways to emigrate to other places that appreciate hard work and productivity. The productive population of Australia would fit pretty nicely in among the 300 odd million in the USA.

    Unfortunately those that don’t can vote themselves more government money cos the government has plenty of money.

    Explaining to leftists that the government does not have any money is always impossible.

  34. BorisG

    You mustn’t make life easy for PhD students, it’s bad for them.

    well, I am just trying to make life easier for myself. There is no way some of them will learn it by themselves, and if they do, they will do even less of the more important stuff.

    A broader point is that they are adults and can choose their tools. If they prefer to use abacus, fine with me.

  35. Oh come on

    OWG. Your estimation of value is rubbish, so I’m not terribly concerned by your critique. You’re a crank and are becoming increasingly weird.

  36. Damienski

    Crickey JC, Chantelle’s Spacechook page was deleted in record time.

  37. BorisG

    I will never forget the looks on his mates faces as they ran out of the room and kept on running after I knocked his door in with a sledge hammer.

    Arky you sometimes sound a bit crazy.

  38. Oh come on

    Borry, you’re a card!

  39. Stimpson J. Cat

    Chantelle Care-Wickham

    A f$cking hyphen named wamen.

    Every.
    Single.
    Time.

  40. Stimpson J. Cat

    The executives in charge of running the National Disability ­Insurance Scheme spent more than $180 million on consultants and contractors in 16 months, $41.5m of which went to two top-tier private companies for “strategic advice”.

    In all honesty, you sane f$ckers have no idea what is coming.
    This monster is going to make Crooked look Straight.

  41. Oh come on

    In all honesty, we know, Stimps. Incentives matter. Duh.

  42. What’s the Australian equivalent of a Krugman? Alan Kohler?

    Used to be Barry Jones. No one qualifies now.

  43. Makka

    In all honesty, you sane f$ckers have no idea what is coming.

    Oh I think I do.

  44. Oh come on

    Does anyone else read Borry’s comments and add a Russian accent to them?

    You say I am card. What is card?

  45. BorisG

    I never thought pure math was really that hard once you got the hang of it.

    I’d say it depends. Classical things like calculus, analytical geometry or linear algebra are straightforward in a sense that it may take time and effort but you can get through to a pretty good level just with persistence.

    But really abstract stuff like abstract algebra, logic, set theory, topology or functional analysis require a different kind of brain. At some point I realised that I lack that and pretty much gave up. I mean I know the very basic elements but only just.

  46. BorisG

    OCO, I can assure you that if and when we meet, you will hear Russian accent. Quite strong though not extreme. JC can attest.

  47. johanna

    Agree with the ridiculous situation where gas being sold to Japan cheaper than locally. However probably based on agreements from years ago.

    Ignorance about the realities of the energy market is the norm.

    Here’s the thing. Japanese or other overseas buyers sign up for a guaranteed contract and cash flow, typically at least five years ahead. There are no distribution or maintenance costs. The gas goes on a ship, the cash comes in. That’s it.

    Lunatics who compare this to the complexities and costs of domestic gas sales and distribution are everywhere, unfortunately.

    The deliberate stupidity of the MSM about every single aspect of energy policy is remarkable.

  48. JC

    Yep, he’s a commie, OCO 🙂

  49. BorisG

    You say I am card. What is card?

    had to google it 🙂

  50. BorisG

    The deliberate stupidity of the MSM about every single aspect of energy policy is remarkable.

    yeh but it is probably even more extreme when politicians use MSM (and not just MSM but mostly headlines) for information on policy issues.

  51. Stimpson J. Cat

    I don’t think Boris is a Commie, I think he just has a Commie name.
    It’s a common mistake.

  52. Oh come on

    I like the Russian accent – to my ear, it has gravitas.

  53. BorisG

    JC is joking. I hope he is :).

  54. JC

    Yep, he speaks with a Russian accent, so doesn’t that mean he’s a commie 🙂 All Russians are commies, no?

  55. Oh come on

    Boney M said it best:

    “Oh those Russians…”

  56. Oh come on

    I wonder what Russians make of Ra-Ra-Rasputin?

  57. OneWorldGovernment

    Funniest thing but I thought earlier that the drip feeder was probably Julie Bishop and look how rapid she came out to be all so fine and kind.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-14/sally-zou-mining-magnate-liberal-party-donor/9125672

  58. OneWorldGovernment

    Oh come on
    #2561649, posted on November 22, 2017 at 1:28 am

    OWG. Your estimation of value is rubbish, so I’m not terribly concerned by your critique. You’re a crank and are becoming increasingly weird.

    love your stuff ohohoh OCO.

  59. JC

    Ignorance about the realities of the energy market is the norm.

    Yep, sure looks like ignorance below.

    Here’s the thing.

    Oh Lord.

    Japanese or other overseas buyers sign up for a guaranteed contract and cash flow, typically at least five years ahead.

    What does cash flow have to do with this sentence?

    There are no distribution or maintenance costs. The gas goes on a ship, the cash comes in. That’s it.

    Yea and?

    Lunatics who compare this to the complexities and costs of domestic gas sales and distribution are everywhere, unfortunately.

    She doesn’t even understand what she’s comparing.

    The sale and the transportation of the gas to overseas markets is the same as energy wholesalers accessing gas for onsale in Australia. Ours may come in from pipes whereas overseas markets get theirs from shipping. At this point the exercise is the same for both allowing for the differences in delivery type and time cost.

    Comparing accessing the gas in the wholesale market along with resale to consumers in Australia vs the (wholesale) delivery to overseas markets (only), adds the Australian retail leg into the equation and not understanding why.

    I’m marking this rudimentary test as a fail.

  60. JC

    When even @MSNBC tells @HillaryClinton to shut the fuck up, you know Hillary is in trouble.
    0 replies 4 retweets 8 likes

    I reckon she’s going to divorce Bill. It’s her only salvation.

  61. OneWorldGovernment

    hey ohohoh OCO.

    what is your considered opinion of ssm legislation?

    Not forgetting that it, the Australian Constitutional legislation, can be changed without a referendum!

  62. Oh come on

    Imagine if a famous pop group in a foreign country that had a somewhat acrimonious relationship with your own released a disco song detailing the life and death of a controversial figure from your country’s history? You’d think it a bit strange, right?

    I bet the KGB analysed the lyrics carefully.

  63. Oh come on

    Forty years ago I was shouting we need to put rockets on the north and south banks of every waterway in the country, and sink every same sex marriage barge that comes within range! What did you ever do for your country, OWG??

  64. OneWorldGovernment

    Oh come on
    #2561695, posted on November 22, 2017 at 2:29 am

    Forty years ago I was shouting we need to put rockets on the north and south banks of every waterway in the country, and sink every same sex marriage barge that comes within range! What did you ever do for your country, OWG??

    ohoh!

    Glad I asked.

  65. Oh come on

    JC: she can’t divorce Bill. Her standalone political credit rating has been slashed to junk status. However, she remains married to a former President. That relationship carries more status than anything else she has or has done on her own.

  66. Oh come on

    Answer the question, you white-feathered yellow belly!

  67. OneWorldGovernment

    ohoh

    what is your opinion on paying money to spivs that promote windmills and solar panels?

  68. OneWorldGovernment

    And ohoh.

    Do you live in silly billy shorterns electorate and when was the last time you voted for him?

  69. johanna

    The MP should first follow the wishes of those who voted him in , in return for those putting him there.

    And how does an MP ascertain the views of everyone who voted for he/she/it on a daily basis? Ridiculous.

    The whole point of electing representatives is that we (sorta) trust their judgement, even if we don’t agree about everything. In practical terms, we can’t be consulted on every single thing. If we were, nobody could earn a living or have a life.

  70. Oh come on

    Hillary is going to have to end her days playing a very distant second fiddle as a former First Lady, as that’ll be the role that engenders her the most respect. She won’t be able to let that go, even though it’s an admission that she has been nothing more than Bill’s doormat after all is said and done. I’m sure she felt that all the humiliations and implied insult she had to endure at the hands of her philandering moral pygmy of a husband were worth the political payoff that never materialised. And now she’s stuck with him because she won’t get better anywhere else. It must burn terribly, awfully.

    Who said there isn’t a merciful God.

  71. classical_hero

    My favourite Piano Concerto.

    Hopefully this works.

    https://youtu.be/RVJT4BhBlNg

  72. Oh come on

    I think you should offer yourself as a renewball resource, OWG, as you are a neverending source of hot air that could surely be utilised.

  73. OneWorldGovernment

    Oh come on
    #2561704, posted on November 22, 2017 at 2:56 am

    Hillary is going to have to end her days playing a very distant second fiddle as a former First Lady, as that’ll be the role that engenders her the most respect.

    are you paid by russians?

  74. classical_hero

    I don’t know what I’m doing wrong for it to not show up.

  75. Mark A

    johanna
    #2561702, posted on November 22, 2017 at 2:51 am

    The MP should first follow the wishes of those who voted him in , in return for those putting him there.

    And how does an MP ascertain the views of everyone who voted for he/she/it on a daily basis? Ridiculous.

    The whole point of electing representatives is that we (sorta) trust their judgement, even if we don’t agree about everything. In practical terms, we can’t be consulted on every single thing. If we were, nobody could earn a living or have a life.

    If an electorate as a whole votes overwhelmingly against or for some legislation, it should send a message to the representative.
    No, we should not vote on every single item but the Swiss model works well enough.
    Trust their judgement? My God you are delirious.

  76. johanna

    The West Australian Labor Party has asked British authorities for information about the military and police record of one of its own MPs after it emerged Barry Urban had falsely worn an Australian medal.

    The member for Darling Range also misled Premier Mark McGowan by initially saying “there was nothing in it” and he had been sent the wrong award medal and had unintentionally worn something he was not entitled to.

    But he has since changed his story to say that he had ordered the Australian Police Overseas Service Medal himself that he was seen wearing at ANZAC day commemorations but accidentally ordered the wrong one.

    It is a crime to wear a service award not earned.

    What kind of fantasist does this? The lie is easily disproved.

    FFS, when I was hiring people in both the public and private sectors over forty years, I insisted on documentation of claims. Yet, to this day, political parties and many high profile employers don’t bother.

    Lazy and sloppy.

    In one of my APS jobs, the big boss (FAS) decreed that anyone who hired a dud would have that person assigned to them, permanently.

    It worked pretty well.

  77. johanna

    Which begs the question, why are they jumping someone else’s train?

    Empire, you are a star.

    The Cure are a magnificent outfit, created and curated by Bob Smith.

    Here is another of their hits, A Forest.

  78. Snoopy

    The Goblin has resigned after a joint sitting of parliament commenced his iimpeachment. Next question, what has he and his family been allowed to walk away with?

    The love affair between the povo and the army could be tested. The junior ranks may not be pleased either.

    Now we will find out if General Chiwenga is truly clever.

  79. johanna

    Don’t let your daughter go on the stage, Mrs Worthington!

    ‘Weinstein told de Caunes that he was going to be producing a movie with a prominent director, that he planned to shoot it in France, and that it had a strong female role. It was an adaptation of a book, he said, but he claimed he couldn’t remember the title. “But I’ll give it to you,” Weinstein said, according to de Caunes. “I have it in my room.”‘

    So they go upstairs, and Weinstein steps into the bathroom. He comes out naked, with an erection.

    That’s progressive values Hollywood-style: Hey, I’m fully committed to providing more roles for strong independent females. I might give you one in return for a bl**job.

    From Mark Steyn.

  80. classical_hero

    Hollywood does not learn. Apparently there’s Oscar buzz about a romantic film about a man and a teenager. Just shows how out of touch they are.

    http://www.dailywire.com/news/23794/tone-deaf-oscar-buzz-movie-about-romance-between-paul-bois?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=benshapiro

  81. Snoopy

    Mengistu, the butcher of Ethiopia has been living in Harare under Mugabe’s protection since 1991 despite being convicted in absentia of genocide. His immediate future should prove a guide to how much Zimbabwe has truly reformed.

  82. johanna

    Thanks to C.L. and others who provided clips of AC/DC. One noticeable quality is that they gave their all, and punters would go home satisfied.

    I did notice that the Scottish boys were scrawny and undersized, like Steve Wright.

    The post war period in the UK produced some huge talent, but a lot of them were stunted, and had terrible teeth.

  83. Tom

    Knight on the AFL’s excellent decision to retain the centre bounce and not give in to whingeing umpires.

  84. Snoopy

    Two things to watch in Zimbabwe. Will the complete terms of Mugabe’s resignation be made public? If so, will they meet with approval by the people?

    If the answer to either question is no, things could get interesting.

  85. Tom

    Ben Garrison on tomorrow’s Thanksgiving holiday.

  86. Fair warning. Don’t click classical_hero’s link and read it until well after you’ve had breakfast. And whatever you do, don’t eat any peaches.

  87. classical_hero

    Thank goodness I don’t like peaches. It’s disgraceful they made it in the first place.

  88. Mater

    The MP should first follow the wishes of those who voted him in , in return for those putting him there.

    I would agree, to a point. They should follow their election platform, not vote their conscience.

    I believe the SSM case to be a bit more complex. It was a survey, and a simple one at that. His electorate said YES to SSM but the details around rights and freedom were not. We didn’t do a survey on a bill, just a broad notion. As such, Andrew (and other elected representatives) must ensure that ALL his constituents are considered in his decision.

    Given the survey results in his electorate, I don’t believe he should reject a bill purely because it allows SSM. However, if the bill doesn’t sufficiently protect/serve the other 40% of those he represents, he should reject it. This is the trust that I, necessarily, place in my elected representatives.

  89. Ubique

    The murderous tyrant Mugabe resigns. Wild celebrations across Zimbabwe. Meanwhile, the ABC marks up 37 years of zero criticism of Mugabe and his henchmen.

  90. entropy

    Mum wants an Ipad and is very angry it’s not arriving in time too.

    Adelaide mother of two Chantelle Care-Wickham said she was extremely frustrated after requesting an iPad and speech app in March for her five-year-old daughter Felicity, who has severe speech and language delays.

    “Five months after making the request, our speech pathologist was sent a letter stating the NDIS had changed its forms and we had to reapply,” Ms Care-Wickham said.

    The arrival of the iPhone and later, iPad, greatly reduced the cost and utility of computer assisted communication. We are talking a drop from about $17-$20k to $1k for a tablet and software. The other things it did was create a combination that lasted all day compared with one to two hours at best, and is light and most importantly, cool compared with a weight more than a couple of bricks. Also, the kids are happy to use an iPad but hated the old windows tablet. A truly marvellous thing and not only disruptive but transformative technology.

    As for this entitled idiot with the Adelaide name, it is so damn cheap these days compared with what people had to pay a decade ago, and so simple to set up. She could have walked into the Apple store and got it on a payment plan if she couldn’t come up with the cash up front. Or approached a myriad of charities. She would rather wait six months than just go and get it. Shows where her true priorities actually are.

    I thought the original idea of the NDIS was a simple plan to help pay for the cost of care of invalids when their parents could no longer look after them. It shows how far the Productivity Commission has fallen to just another bunch of naive big government dickheads, not understanding where their proposal will inevitably lead.

    The NDIS model seems to be a permanent gravy train for allied health and associated carpet baggers feasting on all manner of eligible activities. You just know it will one day soon create multi millionaires on the Therese Rein (Rudd) model of taxpayer largesse, and eventually end up paying for aroma therapy and laughter medicine.

  91. Mother Lode

    Fuck off, Septimus.

  92. The Deplorable Barking Toad

    Thanks Tom – again.

    Delonas is brilliant with Monica

  93. Gab

    Victoria parliament had another overnight session on the Kill bill.

    Labor and the Greens used their numbers to vote down an anti elder abuse amendment.

  94. Dianeh

    She would rather wait six months than just go and get it. Shows where her true priorities actually are.

    Yes. It is worse than you think. She is entitled to a carer’s Payment which is non means tested and is around $60 a week, this also comes with a large yearly payment that I think (from memory) was around $1400. It is paid in July.

    I use this money to,pay for my son’s therapy (which at the moment is only private tennis coaching- had far better results than OT ) and any aids that I need. I have just purchased a new iPad for him for Xmas and it will also be his school device. I also use my private health cover for other therapies when needed, it is one of the reasons I keep it.

  95. notafan

    Chantelle went on an overseas holiday but couldn’t pay a thousand dollars for an iPad for her five year old, which she apparently needed desperately.

    The NDIS is being milked and we all know it.

  96. feelthebern

    The should re-name the Kill Bill in Victoria to “Get Grandma’s Money” bill.
    If I was elderly living in Victoria, I would get out of the place quick smart before my kids railroaded me into Dan’s death chamber.

  97. feelthebern

    Coming soon to Victoria.

    What’s that Nan?
    A sniffle?
    A cough?
    Better start digging a Nanna hole.

  98. Dianeh

    That Labor candidate is Qld who hugged Pauline Hanson is smarter than Ms Pallychook. By being nice and congratulating Pauline she has shown herself to be a real person. Voters can relate to that. She will pick up the voters who would have voted PHON in that seat (they are not running in that seat). Ms Palleychook seems to be going out of her way to insult PHON voters and ensure they preference LNP.

    And that Tim Nicholls. What a fwit. He should not be defensive for doing a deal with a party that is now getting a substantial percentage of the vote. He should instead embrace PHON and emphasise that LNP is willing to cooperate with them for the well-being of the state. Attack Labor for their arrogance and bigotry toward PHON voters.

    LNP should be thinking, Labor want nothing to do with PHON, so we should use this to our advantage and fuck Labor.

  99. notafan

    Twitter still a great source of entertainment.

    So much breaking new being broken.

  100. hzhousewife

    The NDIS model seems to be a permanent gravy train for allied health and associated carpet baggers feasting on all manner of eligible activities.

    NBN is nothing compared to the potential of the NDIS. I know at least three acquaintances who used to work legitimately in retail or offices, who are now “counsellors” and “consultants” in allied “health” areas, and lots more who have done the TAFE thing and become nursing aide type helpers. I doubt any of them make much more than 20 thou a year, BUT, they are not on the dole, and are happy to be part-time employed rather than unemployed.

  101. Tintarella di Luna

    The NDIS model seems to be a permanent gravy train for allied health and associated carpet baggers feasting on all manner of eligible activities. You just know it will one day soon create multi millionaires on the Therese Rein (Rudd) model of taxpayer largesse, and eventually end up paying for aroma therapy and laughter medicine.

    Excellent summary

  102. Tintarella di Luna

    Who is the bad guy in this scenario?

    James Cook University slapdown of reef scientist Critic Heads to court beware the paywall

    There’s only one bad guy and it’s not Professor Peter Ridd

  103. entropy

    Dianeh, the problem for the LNP is this: if the LNP indicate it is prepared to deal with ONP in the case of a hung parliamentmore people might be inclined to vote ONP first. The LNP wouldn’t want that. It would prefer people vote LNP.
    Agree on Nichols. The ALP campaign is very well funded, he has baggage and the negative campaign will be successful. They should have made Deb Frecklington leader months ago.

  104. Tintarella di Luna

    Chantelle went on an overseas holiday but couldn’t pay a thousand dollars for an iPad for her five year old, which she apparently needed desperately.

    The NDIS is being milked and we all know it.

    It will be the university educated, the highly resourced be it who you know or what you have, and those with double-barrel names who will really do well with the NDIS — pity the 50 year-old person with severe intellectual disability who can’t speak, use the telephone or write a letter or use social or mainstream media, whose elderly parents are either dead or demented, sick or infirm — think about their chances of getting a fair go, support workers who are kind, engaged and who care about their well-being and safety.

    For heavens sake there are people who are severely disabled who do not have ANY SECURITY OF TENURE in where they live, they have no lease, they are just chattels in a cruel, bureacratised system which looks after everyone but them.

  105. OneWorldGovernment

    feelthebern
    #2561781, posted on November 22, 2017 at 7:18 am

    The should re-name the Kill Bill in Victoria to “Get Grandma’s Money” bill.
    If I was elderly living in Victoria, I would get out of the place quick smart before my kids railroaded me into Dan’s death chamber.

    People tend to forget that the great migration from southern States to Joh Bjelke-Petersen’s Qld is because at the time he had the lowest price fuel, tobacco and guns in Australia.

    I also recall he was the first to get rid of Death Duties!

  106. Snoopy

    Just for fun Google ‘NDIS supported holidays’.

    Kruger National Park? No worries.

  107. Geriatric Mayfly

    Stalag Manus Update.
    Ho. Hum. Another meddling UN busy body is on the case. Now to add to the woes and tribulations of these
    inveterate shysters is their lack of local language skills. They’ve had four years to learn Pidgin. Besides, the same would apply if they ever made it to our shores.

    “The situation on the ground is very serious and deteriorating day by day,” said Nai Jit Lam, a regional representative of the UN Refugee Agency (UNHCR) on Tuesday.Lam said medicines ran out last week, their health is suffering in the hot and humid weather, and they have started digging wells inside the centre to get water.The 250 others who have moved out of the centre face an apprehensive local population and unfinished alternative housing on the island, Lam said, adding that the migrants do not speak the local language.

  108. Tintarella di Luna

    Yes. It is worse than you think. She is entitled to a carer’s Payment which is non means tested and is around $60 a week, this also comes with a large yearly payment that I think (from memory) was around $1400. It is paid in July.

    I use this money to,pay for my son’s therapy (which at the moment is only private tennis coaching- had far better results than OT ) and any aids that I need. I have just purchased a new iPad for him for Xmas and it will also be his school device. I also use my private health cover for other therapies when needed, it is one of the reasons I keep it.

    Dianeh I know you know what I know — my son has to have dental treatment and can only have it under general anaesthetic – while he will sit in the chair, finally after over 20 years of trying, he will allow the dentist to have a good look in his mouth but no more than that and he only tolerates it for a very short time.

    He had urgent treatment last month and it turns out that he needs root canal treatment on a front tooth so he’ll have to go under again in about three weeks then again in January next year to finish it off (all of which is paid by we his parents because he simply could not afford it) — he was on our family private health insurance but because he is now over the age of 25 he now has to have his own and from the anaesthetist bill of over $1500 got back $109.00, the dental treatment itself was double that again – we do this every two years but this year he’s had some problems which had to be dealt with urgently — his health insurance premium is over $3,400 per year – the public system is just so woefully stretched that his teeth would rot in his head if we had to wait for the public system, and so many people like my son do end up losing their teeth, or, die of septicemia.

    Sorry that’s it from me, it’s just a little window into what families do willingly and lovingly the only thing I can’t do is live forever, if I could my son wouldn’t need an NDIS.

  109. OneWorldGovernment

    Tintarella di Luna,

    The whole idea behind the NDIS is the same as “Child Care”.

    Take it away from volunteer organizations, make a ‘mickey mouse’ course in some stupid so called discipline to limit the ability of any volunteers from actually doing the work and then you have another hoard of Union members who will keep voting for you.

    It’s the same scam as has been imposed on us whereby “Centrelink” costs us around $7billion for so called private providers and KRudd’s wife made her fortune and why we had ABC preschools.

    Anyone that tells me that Howard and Costello were nothing more than a comedy duo needs their head read.

    And, by the by, the NDIS was voted on by every political party.

    What will it cost? You’ve got to vote it in to find out and it started about 5 years ago.

    Burn parliament house down NOW.

  110. Boambee John

    Top Ender at 2231

    and

    Purchased or unofficial commemorative medals, known as tinnies, must not be included with approved medals and not worn on your left breast at public ceremonial or commemorative events. This also applies to unofficial medals issued by organisations and non-approved foreign medals. A small number of society and organisation issued medals are approved.

    All very well, but I have no intention of removing the “unofficial” Rats of Tobruk medallion from my father’s medal group. Anyway, I wear them on the right, not the left!

  111. Top Ender

    after I knocked his door in with a sledge hammer

    As a young teacher in Qld, I lived in a “teacher ghetto” in Gladstone. Although the local 60-70 inhabitants were more than keen for a party, they were generally kept to Friday or Saturday nights.

    Except for Karen and Jane.

    Living in a duplex, these two often arrived home after midnight on a “school night” and put on their loud and crappy stereo. They were often told off by residents the next day for disrupting the neighbours’ sleep, but hey, they were young and good looking and we are pretty tolerant…

    Living two doors up it finally got too much for your truly. At 3pm one Thursday morning, I fronted their place with a pair of scissors. They of course invited me in, and I went to their sound system and cut off the mains plug with the scissors before retiring. Went round the next day and wired it back up again, and they were very quiet for the rest of the year.

  112. Baldrick

    Just for fun Google ‘NDIS supported holidays’.

    Just for fun Google ‘NDIS supported sex’.

  113. Tintarella di Luna

    Take it away from volunteer organizations, make a ‘mickey mouse’ course in some stupid so called discipline to limit the ability of any volunteers from actually doing the work and then you have another hoard of Union members who will keep voting for you.

    I agree that’s how it’s been designed it was supposed to only be for people who are severely disabled with life long disabilities, it’s now a catch all which will leave behind the very people it was supposed to help. Ain’t that always the way?

  114. Tintarella di Luna

    Australia’s biggest ponzi scheme fraud.

    can’t read it Gab

  115. classical_hero

    The NDIS was always a make work scheme that will never improve the lives of the disabled.

  116. Tel

    It’s kind of hilarious and kind of sad in equal parts watching the radical “Progressives” discover how deeply they enjoy the righteous, stuck-up, holier-than-thou prudishness that they long accused the Christians of. This is after celebrating decades of casual sex and anything goes relationships. You would think that some little sense of the hypocrisy would bother them… not not really. Chase the fad, rewrite history again and again.

  117. Snoopy

    Just for fun Google ‘NDIS supported sex’.

    PROSTITUTION has been barred from the National Disability­ Insurance Scheme, the agency running the scheme said yesterday.

    Well that’s a relief.

  118. calli

    Amazing how government can take something that’s needed desperately by a tiny portion of the population and completely cock it up so that it serves anyone but those it was intended for.

    It’s a remarkable talent.

  119. Gilas

    Following on from last night’s entertainment:

    Testing…

  120. Tintarella di Luna

    The NDIS was always a make work scheme that will never improve the lives of the disabled

    Looks that way doesn’t it — hay-making by Boston Consulting Group and every other leaching leeches you’d want to name – seminars and webinars never helped anyone

  121. OneWorldGovernment

    Well worth reading Daniel Greenfield article at FPM

    The Hotel from Leftist Hell
    You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave.

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/268430/hotel-leftist-hell-daniel-greenfield

  122. Tintarella di Luna

    Amazing how government can take something that’s needed desperately by a tiny portion of the population and completely cock it up so that it serves anyone but those it was intended for.

    It’s a remarkable talent.

    Every human need grows a parasitic industry that sucks dry the succour

  123. Rebel with cause

    Hardly surprising that Charles Waterstreet thinks everyone loves his penis. Their ABC has been blowing him off for years.

  124. Rabz

    you seem to get enjoyment from pulling down some who comment here. I hope you enjoy it.
    I certainly didn’t enjoy it.

    I wasn’t referring to you, P. I generally don’t read your comments in the first place.

  125. DrBeauGan

    That’s beautiful, Gilas.

  126. Boambee John

    From JC at 1230

    In a speech in Sydney last night, Philip Lowe said automation and growing competition from foreign workers were sapping workers’ wages — now growing at their slowest pace in 50 years

    To beat Fisky to the punch, “Stop unskilled immigration now”.

  127. Tintarella di Luna

    It’s kind of hilarious and kind of sad in equal parts watching the radical “Progressives” discover how deeply they enjoy the righteous, stuck-up, holier-than-thou prudishness that they long accused the Christians of.

    I agree, however I’ll not be too happy if they introduce the hi-vis vests of yesteryear – chastity belts and scold’s bridles — mind, just for safety and propriety

  128. Baldrick

    PROSTITUTION has been barred from the National Disability­ Insurance Scheme, the agency running the scheme said yesterday.

    Not so fast …
    Watch this video to learn how some people have been able to use NDIS to support fulfilling sex lives with their partner”

  129. Top Ender

    Dirty Harry and Son?

    Dad holding bub fights robbers

    Picture
    The moment an off-duty cop in Brazil shoots armed robbers Picture: YOUTUBE

    THIS is the moment an offduty military police officer shot and killed one of two robbery suspects at a pharmacy, all while clutching his baby boy under his arm.

    The dramatic scene unfolded Saturday afternoon local time, when Sergeant Rafael Souza was inside the pharmacy in the city of Campo Limpo Paulista, Sao Paulo, with his wife and son.

    As the clerk tended to Sgt Souza’s wife, the two gunwielding robbers barged in and announced the robbery.

    One of the suspects, Jefferson Alves, 24, pointed his gun at Sgt Souza, who identified himself as a cop, according to the report.

    Sgt Souza, who was holding his son with one arm, used his other hand to pull out his gun and shoot Alves in retaliation.

    He then turned his attention to the second suspect, Italo Creato, 22.

    The incredible incident was caught on the shop’s CCTV camera. In the vision, Sgt Souza can be seen firing at Creato, who is out of frame.

    Before the video cuts out, Sgt Souza is shown handing the tot to his wife, who was cowering between shelves.

    — NEW YORK POST

    (Picture brought to you at great expense by finding one on the Net; article from the NT News)

  130. John Constantine

    NDIS is shortencare.

    Set up by his looting cartel to loot the country.

    Only a taste of what is to come, but for those that can learn, it lays out exactly how the aspy Shortfilth mind operates.

  131. W Hogg

    True, Excel has pretty much all the financial maths algorithms you could ever need embedded in it.

    LOL

  132. Boambee John

    Ragu
    #2561628, posted on November 22, 2017 at 12:56 am
    $180 Million.

    Fuck me.

    Back in the early 1990s, Defence was in trouble with Senate Estimates for spending $50m on consultants in a year!

  133. Snoopy

    Amazing how government can take something that’s needed desperately by a tiny portion of the population and completely cock it up so that it serves anyone but those it was intended for.

    It’s a remarkable talent.

    No, it’s merely the inevitable consequence of government bestowing favour on individuals coupled with universal suffrage.

  134. W Hogg

    NDIS is shortencare.

    Set up by his looting cartel to loot the country.

    FWIW, Robina NDIS office has 3 floors leased on the Gold Coast. The office opening is a “milestone” in PS Newspeak, I believe. No doubt a pollie attended the photo op and cut a ribbon.

    No one works there. It’s empty.

  135. Enabling Jihad at Stanford:

    Shortly after [Spencer’s] talk began, an Islamic chant was let loose for a tense moment – apparently on someone’s phone. A lot of people sure were looking at their phones, which was odd given that the room was so packed that many were denied entry. A few minutes later, the majority walked out in choreographed unison – with the aggressive, supremacist undertone of Islamic chant blaring from devices: Allahu Akbar without the violence. Those who had originally been barred due to lack of capacity were then denied the opportunity to occupy the vacated space.

    This is the world we live in now.

  136. Rabz

    The NDIS was always a make work scheme that will never improve the lives of the disabled.

    It was designed by the bureaucracy for the bureaucracy, in order to make ever larger numbers of people ever dependent on government.

    It says a lot about the quality (or complete lack of it) of the imbeciles in our beloved federal legislature that they were all falling over themselves to see that it was foisted on taxpayers as quickly as possible.

    Abbott of course, couldn’t agree with labor enough that it was necessary and also agreed not to oppose the increase in the medicare levy Gillard introduced shortly before she was turfed.

    No wonder Teats Peanuthead is so down on (mythical) tax cuts. We will never see another balanced federal budget in our lifetimes, just ever increasing deficits and debt.

  137. Dave in Marybrook

    Nifty cartoon from Knight, thanks again Tom.
    However, any ball-up in top level games at the moment is pretty safe from the fist- enforcing the ban on the flappy-slap is painfully overdue for the AFL.

  138. H B Bear

    The NDIS is why Gillard is Australia’s greatest Fabian. One day shortly she will dwarf even The Great Man, Gough.

  139. Boambee John

    Johanna at 0152

    The deliberate stupidity of the MSM is remarkable.

    Fixed that for you.

    Listened to one media poppett on Wednesday talking about the missing Argentine submarine “dropping off the radar”, she seemed to think it had been flying through the air with the greatest of ease!

  140. Tintarella di Luna

    FWIW, Robina NDIS office has 3 floors leased on the Gold Coast. The office opening is a “milestone” in PS Newspeak, I believe. No doubt a pollie attended the photo op and cut a ribbon.

    No one works there. It’s empty.

    who can forget Labor’s toxic-tonsilled termagant -shrieking across the chamber – the NDIS is ours, it’s Labor policy – well the problem with the Coalition is that it did not clean out the useless fifth column which continued to bring on board their mates and their mates’ mates. I remember a Labor operative (used to work for a former Labor PM) who at my local club said he and his mate saw a business opportunity with the NDIS – I said I didn’t realise he was interested in being a disability support worker – well the po-face pulled was worth it. Typical Labor parasite – always on the lookout for a scam.

  141. P

    Easy!
    Thank you P.

    Way a way to start the day. Thank you Gilas!

  142. Snoopy

    Listened to one media poppett on Wednesday talking about the missing Argentine submarine “dropping off the radar”, she seemed to think it had been flying through the air with the greatest of ease!

    I love how on the ABC every election is predicted to go “down to the wire” and every interruption to rail services has trains “grinding to a halt”.

    Every. Time.

  143. Gab

    Try this link, Tinta.

    Amazing how many intelligent people were conned.

  144. John Constantine

    Shortencare NDIS is the Ponzi, debt fueled way Australia will go under shorten.

    The economy will become a Stalinist Ponzi archipelago, with pockets of extreme looting cartel wealth towering over countrywide gulags of crushed proles.

    Comrades.

  145. Tintarella di Luna

    Try this link, Tinta.

    Amazing how many intelligent people were conned.

    Thanks Gab I went for coffee and bought the paper

  146. Baldrick

    Religious protections of Homo-hoedowns now pushed out to March 2018-

    The Turnbull cabinet has instructed Philip Ruddock, a former Liberal minister and the current mayor of Hornsby, to examine whether current Australian law does enough to protect religious freedoms.

    A statement from the prime minister’s office said Mr Ruddock would conduct a “timely expert stocktake” that would determine whether there was any need to change the law to enshrine religious freedoms.

    The announcement comes amid pressure from Coalition conservatives who want to see religious exemptions built into the bill to legalise same-sex marriage.

    Mr Ruddock is due to report back by March 31 next year, throwing the broader debate on religious protections beyond the government’s self-imposed Christmas deadline to legalise same-sex marriage.

    The once promised religious protections will now be subject to a review, pushed out to the never-never and even if recommended will still need to pass the Senate, months after homo-hoedowns are enacted.

  147. Baldrick

    Oops, I forgot to add … Stupid.Fucking.Liberals

  148. P

    I opened the Ponzi scheme article by going to Go.gle News and typing in their Search box “Ponzi”, pressed Enter, and when the article appeared in the list I right clicked on it then clicked “Open in new tab”.
    It usually works for me but to open another I have to first clear the history then wait about 5mins for any other behind the wall.

  149. H B Bear

    Nice to see Waffles chuck Phil “Amnesty” Ruddock, the father of the Apex Gang, a bone. The Mayor of Hornsby is hardly US Ambassador or Secretary General in London. Hell they even found Fat Mandy a place as Ambassador to the Holy See and threw in some Italian lessons.

  150. feelthebern

    Phil Ruddock.
    Tony was an idiot for trusting the most anti Catholic Lib in the parliament to be his whip.
    Idiot.

  151. Rossini

    Baldrick
    #2561870, posted on November 22, 2017 at 8:59 am
    Plus 100

  152. Rae

    Twitter is saying Postecoglou has resigned.

  153. Bruce of Newcastle

    The Turnbull cabinet has instructed Philip Ruddock, a former Liberal minister and the current mayor of Hornsby

    He was on the news last night talking about the train station parking crisis in Hornsby and Central Coast. It was nice to hear from him again.

  154. Snoopy

    Ahaha! Suck shit, Palaszczuk.

    The Adani Group is reportedly close to announcing it has the money to build its controversial Queensland coal mine and rail link, but there are concerns the involvement of Chinese cash could cost Australia jobs.

    An unnamed director of Adani Mining has told industry figures the company has secured Chinese funding for the Carmichael mine and associated rail line, the ABC says.

    The director reportedly said Adani wouldn’t need a loan of up to $1 billion from the taxpayer-funded Northern Australian Infrastructure Facility for the rail line.

    A formal announcement about the financing deal is said to be imminent, but the ABC reports that reliance on funds from Chinese enterprises and export credit agencies could cost Australia jobs associated with the project.

    Such Chinese interests invariably require that materials for key infrastructure are sourced from China and that effective shifts work out of Australia.

  155. Bruce of Newcastle

    Oops, sorry FTB, I was reminiscing Ruddock’s toughness on OSB and the reffo industry.

  156. H B Bear

    The Parrot and the Corpse or Just Another Night in Sydney or Is that a Black Hand in Your Pocket or are You Just Pleased to See Me.

    h/t Blot

  157. C.L.

    Tim Blair wins the internet for November with …

    Alone and isolated in his luxurious private compound, the besieged millionaire leader of a once-prosperous nation clings desperately to power as allies and rivals alike scheme to bring him down.

    But enough about Malcolm Turnbull.

  158. H B Bear

    Oops, sorry FTB, I was reminiscing Ruddock’s toughness on OSB and the reffo industry.

    Ruddock liked his reffos to come with a UN tick. Like the Sudanese making a valuable contribution to the home security industry in Melbournibad.

  159. C.L.

    Queensland Liberal Party wants to jail men for arguing with their wives:

    The Liberal National Party has promised that if it wins the upcoming Queensland election it will introduce a “standalone” domestic violence offence for non-violent offenders who had shown a pattern of psychologically controlling behaviour …

    A Queensland Government taskforce, the Australian Law Reform Commission (ALRC), and Victoria’s Royal Commission into Family Violence (RCFV) have recommended against introducing a specific family violence offence.

    The Australian Law Reform Commission concluded it would be too difficult to define what behaviours should be captured, and the Royal Commission into Family Violence found there was not enough evidence to suggest new laws were necessary.

    ABC Online.

  160. P

    Mr Ruddock will be assisted by an expert panel consisting of the recently appointed President of the Australian Human Rights Commission Rosalind Croucher, Annabelle Bennett and Frank Brennan.

    Australian Financial Review

  161. feelthebern

    If Ruddock can see an opportunity to lay a land mine for Catholics with this review, he will.
    Detestable, bigoted, little man.

  162. Geriatric Mayfly

    but the ABC reports that reliance on funds from Chinese enterprises and export credit agencies could cost Australia jobs associated with the project.

    Am I reading this correctly? So ABCess now supports Adani. I had thought that the contents of the water cooler were always tinted Green.

  163. zyconoclast

    The NDIS model seems to be a permanent gravy train for allied health and associated carpet baggers feasting on all manner of eligible activities.

    Not just allied health, try gardeners, NDIS house renovations…

  164. P

    Mr Ruddock, who retired from Parliament in 2016 and was recently elected as mayor of Hornsby, will conduct the review with an expert panel consisting of the president of the Australian Human Rights Commission Rosalind Croucher, retired federal court judge Annabelle Bennett and Jesuit priest Frank Brennan.
    SMH

  165. feelthebern

    Pity the NDIS wasn’t around when Thommo was being charged.
    “But sir, I have to root hookers, it’s part of my treatment for pindickitis”.

  166. zyconoclast

    What about those 1950s

    Thank you sexual revolution

    Sex ed in schools should purely be about biology and plumbing.
    The more “graphic” learning should be left to parents and mobile phones. (no sarc)

  167. Boambee John

    but the ABC reports that reliance on funds from Chinese enterprises and export credit agencies could cost Australia jobs associated with the project.

    Suck on that one Palacechook. Really shot yourself in thd foot there, the bruvvas will not be amused.

  168. Senile Old Guy

    NDIS is shortencare. Set up by his looting cartel to loot the country.

    Abbott of course, couldn’t agree with labor enough that it was necessary and also agreed not to oppose the increase in the medicare levy Gillard introduced shortly before she was turfed.

    Never forget that we have massive financial outlays due to Abbott going “me too” to ALP schemes. To add to this mess, we have Turnbull legislating the ALP agenda on, well, nearly everything. Which party has given us the biggest debt in Australian history? The Turnbull LNP.

  169. notafan

    Worth passing on NDIS sex and holiday links to your local MP, then they can’t say they didn’t know.

  170. Stimpson J. Cat

    PROSTITUTION has been barred from the National Disability­ Insurance Scheme, the agency running the scheme said yesterday.

    Noooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!

  171. Viva

    Phil Ruddock. Tony was an idiot for trusting the most anti Catholic Lib in the parliament to be his whip.Idiot.

    That’s been his problem all along. A decent man who is a poor judge of character. He let’s others walk over him and play him for a fool . It’s what has lost him respect

  172. Infidel Tiger

    Mr Ruddock, who retired from Parliament in 2016 and was recently elected as mayor of Hornsby, will conduct the review with an expert panel consisting of the president of the Australian Human Rights Commission Rosalind Croucher, retired federal court judge Annabelle Bennett and Jesuit priest Frank Brennan.

    Are you fucking kidding me?

  173. Noooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!

    Stimp. Does that decision impact you personally ?

  174. Stimpson J. Cat

    Goddammit!
    So many disabled Grandmas will go unsatisfied due to draconian policing of the NDIS.
    I just bought outfits and had a price list and everything….

  175. C.L.

    Hard to follow … Andrew Bolt presents the case of a young Canadian academic subjected to Maoist censure for not accepting the left’s dogma on personal pronouns. (In Canada, not using them for trannies can land you in jail). But Bolt himself refers to “Cate” McGregor as “she”. McGregor is not a woman. He is a man. This is a scientific fact. So why does Bolt think it’s noble to voluntarily enable and normalise a dangerous and preposterous lie?

  176. JC

    Are you fucking kidding me?

    We have one big Labor Party in Parliament. Shorten’s mob are the restless back bench.

  177. C.L.

    We have one big Labor Party in Parliament. Shorten’s mob are the restless back bench.

    Great description of what we’ve got.

  178. .

    Rebel with cause
    #2561834, posted on November 22, 2017 at 8:21 am
    Hardly surprising that Charles Waterstreet thinks everyone loves his penis. Their ABC has been blowing him off for years.

    BOOM! Gold!

  179. Bruce of Newcastle

    Andrew Bolt presents the case of a young Canadian academic subjected to Maoist censure for not accepting the left’s dogma on personal pronouns.

    This is top story at BCF right now, which also has this one also from Canada:

    Do not refer to female pupils as ‘girls’ or ‘ladies’ because it ‘reminds them of their gender’, headteachers told

    PM Trudy is certainly making his mark. Am I allowed to call him “him”?

  180. zyconoclast

    Australia’s biggest ponzi scheme fraud.

    Australia’s biggest Ponzi scheme fleeced investors of $209 million from a base in Bondi Junction
    JENNIFER SEXTON, BUSINESS EDITOR, The Daily Telegraph
    November 22, 2017 12:00am
    Subscriber only

    THE nation’s biggest fake ­investment scheme has fleeced $209 million from hardworking people, including a priest and a politician, as it operated undetected for years from a Bondi Junction office.

    Among the 780 duped creditors are doctors, business owners and war veterans who fell for a scheme so convincing that one syndicate plunged $14.8 million into it alone.

    The monstrous swindle was run from the Westfield Tower above the busy Bondi Junction shopping complex.

    Tony Iervasi and Nina Girsa travelling first class to New Zealand in August 2016. Source: Facebook
    The alleged mastermind behind the giant Ponzi scheme is Tony Iervasi, a 52-year-old casino VIP who two years ago left his family’s $2.3 million suburban home and began a relationship with Nina Girsa, a 42-year-old Latvian-born eastern suburbs beautician and cosmetic consultant. The Daily Telegraph is not suggesting Ms Girsa was aware of the scheme.

    In the past two years the pair has travelled in luxury to Las Vegas, Hawaii and the Bahamas, ­visiting casinos and ­indulging in designer-label spending sprees.

    The couple lived it up in the Bahamas in January 2016. Source: Facebook
    The scheme — operating as Courtenay House and Courtenay House Capital Trading Group — promised “mum and dad” investors bumper returns of up to 25 per cent. They believed their money would be invested in the foreign currency exchange markets.

    But it was all a house of cards, according to the liquidator of the two companies, Grant Thornton’s Said Jahani.

    “The companies were operating a Ponzi scheme. This is based on interviews with the director, Tony Iervasi, and ­initial forensic accounting investigations,” Mr Jahani said.

    Tony Iervasi and Nina Girsa enjoyed some shopping in Las Vegas in July 2016. Source: Facebook
    In a hallmark sign of a Ponzi scheme, almost 90 per cent of the $209 million of investors’ money in the Courtenay House companies was used to pay their own monthly interest and capital returns.

    A tiny fraction of the money — just 1 per cent, and no more than $50,000 at any time — was invested in foreign currency exchange markets.

    The couple visited Barcelona, St Tropez, Cannes, Nice and Monaco in 2015. Source: Facebook

    Enjoying Monte Carlo in September 2015. Source: Facebook
    Many investors elected to direct their monthly interest payments back into the fund.

    At the Bondi Junction office of the Courtenay House companies there were no books and records, said Mr Jahani.

    “I am painstakingly having to recreate what happened. They didn’t want to leave a lovely trail of breadcrumbs for auditors to piece together,” Mr Jahani said.

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    Among the victims is ­Sutherland Shire’s Mayor Carmelo Pesce, who lost about $1 million.

    The biggest loser from the scheme was a syndicate of ­investors under the banner Oceanic Sun Group. Oceanic invested $8.8 million with Courtenay House Capital Trading and $6 million with Courtenay House.

    The couple in Hawaii in June 2016. Source: Facebook

    Working on the tan in Hawaii. in June 2016. Source: Facebook
    Another victim was a priest from the Sutherland Shire who lost $50,000 in retirement savings from his “St Francis self-managed super fund”.

    Among the investors, most of them too embarrassed to be named, is a war widow who invested and lost her husband’s entire pension payout. Others have been forced to sell their houses and lost businesses as a result of their vanished funds.

    Enjoying a dip in Las Vegas in July 2016. Source: Facebook
    The Australian Securities and Investments Commission began investigating the companies late last year before freezing company assets and bank accounts and triggering liquidation. Mr Jahani has traced $100,000 of company funds to a bank account overseas and has also discovered Iervasi has a property worth less than $100,000 in the United States.

    Mr Jahani said a total of $51 million in company bank accounts with Westpac and NAB have been seized but how much will be returned to investors is not yet clear.

    ASIC’s investigation is ongoing.

    MAYOR’S MILLION AMONG LOST LOOT

    SUTHERLAND Shire’s Mayor Carmelo Pesce describes himself as a cautious investor. But the recommendation came from a school friend, who could demonstrate that for years his returns were paid with seamless regularity.

    So the Liberal local politician took the plunge into the Courtenay House foreign exchange investment scheme, with $975,000 from the Pesce Family Trust.

    Mayor of Sutherland Shire Carmelo Pesce invested $975,000 into the scheme. Picture: Britta Campion
    He soon began receiving monthly interest returns of 1.5 per cent, 4 per cent and 7.5 per cent, depending on the various scale of risk associated with each “special” investment. “What returns I got I kept pumping back in,” he said.

    But the house of cards came crashing down after the Australian Securities and Investments Commission began investigating the Courtenay House companies. In May liquidator Said Jahani was appointed and soon broke the news to a packed creditors meeting in July that the Courtenay House funds were a massive Ponzi scheme. He revealed there was a constant churn of new investor funds coming into the scheme which was used to pay existing investor’s interest and capital returns.

    “I have lost a million dollars,” Mr Pesce said, adding that his brother also lost at least $250,000.

  181. .

    So this QLD domestic violence proposal –

    psychologically controlling

    Erm – does this mean that “no spanking” parents are engaging in domestic violence?

    What about a parent convincing their kid to do their homework?

    What about when your dog tilts its head after it is denied half of your lamb sandwich?

  182. v_maet

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-22/fact-check-queensland-jobs-unemployment/9152266

    ABC fact check claims that Nicholls statement about job losses last year were misleading even though the was 100% accurate.
    More fake news from ABC.

  183. Bruce of Newcastle

    Oops, it’s from Conservative-run Pommyland not Canada, I should’ve followed the link.
    Apology to Mx Trudeau for misrepresenting hx.

  184. v_maet

    @Bruce of Newcastle

    Castrudeau is completely destroying Canada

  185. .

    I guess a (sane) teacher could cope by calling all the boys ladies and calling all the girls “sir” or “pumpkin”, and just quoting what the directives are.

  186. Farmer Gez

    Teaching disability.
    My year six daughter will now be getting a presentation to her class on eating disorders. The girls in class will no doubt swallow the lesson and regurgitate it back at the parents.
    Anything but education in basics is on the curriculum in Victoriastan.

  187. Dr Faustus

    but the ABC reports that reliance on funds from Chinese enterprises and export credit agencies could cost Australia jobs associated with the project.

    Am I reading this correctly? So ABCess now supports Adani.

    Not so fast. The ABC is pointing out that, since the promised jobs will be going offshore to Chinese businesses, there is no good reason for Adani to proceed at all. Green goodness to the last drop.

    (As an aside, Chinese finance will certainly come with monster employment/procurement hooks.
    No surprise there, that’s what ECA funding is all about.)

  188. H B Bear

    More fake news from ABC.

    The ALPBC staff co-op is always at its most balanced during election campaigns. As Red Kerry used to say on election night coverage, “Well that’s a comprehensive victory for the ABC.”

  189. notafan

    This is not surprising, though women not realising they weren’t getting a 2in1 deal is.

    Underscores the contempt for civil law held by the muslim community who no doubt tend to avoid civil marriages for ease of welfare fraud.

    Whether there are implications for Australia in our present ssmarriage predicament, I don’t know.

    I think polygamy being legalised will surely follow though not if it subject to a popular vote.

    six out of ten UK muslim women not legally married

  190. zyconoclast

    Speaking of “Cate” McGregor

    ABC radio people were saying channel 9 need to add female talent to the cricket commentary for The Ashes this summer.

    They mentioned some cricketeress names, then one bright spark said that the best option for expert female cricket commentary is Cate McGregor. No one knows more about cricket than her.

    Not one of them stopped to mention that ALL the cricket expertise was gathered before Cate started playing dress up in public*.

    *I suspect dress up was happened in private for a long time.

  191. Snoopy

    ABC fact check claims that Nicholls statement about job losses last year were misleading even though the was 100% accurate.
    More fake news from ABC.

    ABC Fact Check was too shy to indicate what had caused the surge in jobs over the last 10 months. I wonder whether the surge in jobs had any connection to the election? I also wonder how much of the surge was government funded? NDIS service delivery organisations are putting on staff while the Disabilities department is yet to shed staff.

    NDIS. Is there anything it can’t do?

  192. H B Bear

    They mentioned some cricketeress names, then one bright spark said that the best option for expert female cricket commentary is Cate McGregor. No one knows more about cricket than her.

    Not one of them stopped to mention that ALL the cricket expertise was gathered before Cate started playing dress up in public*.

    Or Channel Nine could simply castrate Tubs Taylor. Problem solved.

  193. Stimpson J. Cat

    Dirty Harry and Son?

    No.

    Hardboiled Confirmed!!!

  194. .

    Wasn’t the NDIS going to cost 1,100 AUD per client per week and caseworkers were going to have a caseload of 2 clients per year?

    22,000 clients. Then Gillard says that on top of the DSP, there are another 400,000 disabled Australians?

  195. Chris

    Or Channel Nine could simply castrate Tubs Taylor. Problem solved.

    Agile. Innovative!

  196. zyconoclast

    P
    #2561930, posted on November 22, 2017 at 10:28 am
    Kristina knows how to plug in a phone

    Look carefully at the poster behind Alexander, it says Turnbull Liberal Team.

    The Libs know a winner…

  197. Ragu

    Who cares. The crap work out of China will give at least 2000 Australians jobs in remedial works.

  198. JC

    I mentioned last night how the government has spent 180 million of NDIS related consultancy fees. The biggest slug , $18.5 million went to Boston Consulting Group.

    Airhead, Christine Keneally’s squeeze either works or used to work there. I wonder what involvement he had in netting that sort of loot for the firm. What about her?

    For that matter, are there any former Libs lurking around the corridors of BCG?

  199. calli

    Any news on the hacking of Pyne’s Twitter account? Has the culprit confessed yet?

  200. Chris

    GOsh its like shooting fish in a barrel at the Australian, making anti Trumbull comments. But there seem to be GetUp troll farm coming in late in the afternoon to reply.
    And a bunch of pro-ssm perxyns.

  201. zyconoclast

    Any news on the hacking of Pyne’s Twitter account? Has the culprit confessed yet?

    No need. Bolt and his mate Albanese say its cool.

  202. JC

    Dot,
    read what I put up last night. What looks like a single mother is “frustrated” and angry she’s not getting her Ipad on time because of NIDIS delays.

    This is where it’s got to.

  203. .

    It’s not like me to want to sound like a prick JC, but someone with a double-barreled surname can usually afford a goddamned iPad.

  204. dopey

    Today only at Dan Murphys.
    2010 Grange $649

  205. Chris

    Today only at Dan Murphys.
    2010 Grange $649

    That Dan, always the good deals.

  206. Leigh Lowe

    No need. Bolt and his mate Albanese say its cool.

    Bolt is all over the shop on Pahn.
    Two weeks ago he was all over him for GetUp (how apt) and encouraging an “independent” to run against an endorsed Liberal candidate.
    Last week he called “nothing to see here, homophobes” on the (cough) “hacking” of Pahn’s Twatter account.
    Now he calls Pahn a liar on the basis of Pieman’s unsworn testimony in a restaurant.

  207. hzhousewife

    The NDIS is why Gillard is Australia’s greatest Fabian. One day shortly she will dwarf even The Great Man, Gough.

    Since there are only one third of our population left who actually know who Gough was, Gillard wins hands down.

  208. Myrddin Seren

    PROSTITUTION has been barred from the National Disability­ Insurance Scheme, the agency running the scheme said yesterday.

    Noooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!

    Calm Down Stimps.

    I am sure that there will be a boom in NDIS-funded ‘massage’ clinics.

  209. stackja

    OneWorldGovernment
    #2561634, posted on November 22, 2017 at 1:04 am
    Judiciary = Law Courts

    NSW Attorney General Frank Walker and Vic Attorney General Rob Hulls appointed many mates.

  210. Makka

    And how does an MP ascertain the views of everyone who voted for he/she/it on a daily basis? Ridiculous

    In the context of an important single issue such as ssm, he/she should be in touch with his/her supporters and understand their views on the issue, make a judgement on what he/she believes is the prevailing dominant position, explain/herself clearly why the position is chosen before then voting accordingly in the HoR. In other words make an honest attempt to represent the will of the support base. They are Representatives.

    Not rocket science.

  211. stackja

    zyconoclast
    #2561953, posted on November 22, 2017 at 10:46 am
    Monkeys escape Medina

    Why did the monkey cross the road?

  212. stackja

    johanna
    #2561702, posted on November 22, 2017 at 2:51 am

    I don’t trust my MHR. Didn’t vote for him.

  213. v_maet

    Snoopy @10:34

    ABC Fact Check was too shy to indicate what had caused the surge in jobs over the last 10 months

    The surge was due to a massive increase in the public service and Pala throwing money at everything regardless of the business case so they could claim they were reducing unemployment.

  214. zyconoclast

    New research suggests that effort at work is correlated with race

    Read the article to see who wins the prize.

    Here is a graphic

    From the story (reminds me of Gillian Triggs)

    Acutely aware of the sensitivity of these findings, the professors delayed publication until after the presidential election. “I knew full well that Trump and his minions would use it as a propaganda piece,” says Mr Hamermesh, a colourful and respected labour economist. The paper may yet be seized on by those who are keen to root out “political correctness” and are perennially unhappy with current anti-discrimination laws.

  215. Myrddin Seren

    Anyone care to join me at the exclusive VIP-only New Thread ?

  216. Infidel Tiger

    Today only at Dan Murphys.
    2010 Grange $649

    It’s still seriously over priced for what it is.

  217. Myrddin Seren

    Today only at Dan Murphys.
    2010 Grange

    Look – we have pretty much finished the Grange over at the exclusive VIP-Only New Thread.

    But there are some domestic bubbles and canapes still doing the rounds.

  218. Leigh Lowe

    PROSTITUTION has been barred from the National Disability­ Insurance Scheme, the agency running the scheme said yesterday.

    Faaaark!
    It’s excluded, but it tells you where the boundaries are being drawn (at least for now).
    Myself and plenty of others on here have been predicting this for ages.
    Those lying xunts from both parties did their NDIS publicity launches complete with a profoundly disabled kid on stage as a prop.
    Of course, the messaging is “anyone who is against this doesn’t want little Johnny to get the care he needs.”
    The truth is, little Johnny will still have to take a number back in the queue while drug-fucked work-averse tubs of lard are sitting on their couch and getting their cleaning and shopping done by NDIS “carers”.
    Oh, and little Johnny’s relatives will be barred from providing care because they don’t have a Cert 4 in NDIS Care from TAFE.

  219. And how does an MP ascertain the views of everyone who voted for he/she/it on a daily basis? Ridiculous

    It is the MP’s duty to represent the will of their electorate.
    It is not the MP’s duty to ascertain the will their electorate.
    It is the duty of the electorate to keep their MP advised of their will on matters before parliament.

  220. Chris

    zyconoclast
    #2561953, posted on November 22, 2017 at 10:46 am
    Monkeys escape Medina

    Why did the monkey cross the road?

    As a symbol of Islamofascists leaving Raqqa?

  221. Leigh Lowe

    Today only at Dan Murphys.
    2010 Grange $649

    It’s still seriously over priced for what it is.

    Time for Doomlord to run a post on the Law of Diminishing Returns using Grange as an example.
    I do NOT get ten times the fun out of a bottle of Grange as I do out of a bottle of really, really good wine costing 1/10 of that.
    Doomlord could possibly do a follow up on Demand and Supply, when demand is partially driven by nouveau riche car dealers buying up crates of Grange for the wank value, but who couldn’t pick it in a blind tasting from Bin 28 or Yellowtail.

  222. Ez

    For that matter, are there any former Libs lurking around the corridors of BCG?

    JC,
    Maybe the other way around. Alan Tudge, Minister for Human Services:

    Prior to entering parliament, Alan spent most of his career in business, including several years with the Boston Consulting Group in Australia, Malaysia and New York, and running his own advisory business.

    Unbefuckinleavable.

  223. Bruce of Newcastle

    Monkeys escape Medina

    Retrenched Mossad agents.
    Israel doesn’t need them anymore since Saudi and Israel have friended each other.

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