Wednesday Forum: November 22, 2017

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  1. Baldrick

    A “potentially suggestive” statue of a Dominican brother, St Martin de Porres, created in Vietnam for a Catholic school in Adelaide will be “substantially” altered following a social media storm.

    The image in question is here.
    What were they thinking?

  2. Stimpson J. Cat

    The image in question is here.
    What were they thinking?

    I think the Vietnamese sculptor was thinking
    “Finally Revenge on you White Papist Devil Dogs
    Ha ha ha ha ha!!! “

  3. Baldrick

    Lock up your grandparents …

    Victorian parliament passes assisted suicide laws 22 votes/18.

  4. notafan

    Australian Conservatives and Verum media on the same team.

    Excellent.

    So much for AC being a bunch of old fuddy duddys.

    I think Michael Sukkar MP has a Maronite Catholic background.

    Young handsome men.

    With fine heads of hair.

  5. Rossini

    Baldrick
    #2562352, posted on November 22, 2017 at 4:10 pm
    Don’t know why but the misses stood there with her mouth open (in shock) when she saw the image!!!!!

  6. The Deplorable Barking Toad

    The image in question is here.
    What were they thinking?

    Reminded me of boarding school

  7. Stimpson J. Cat

    Victorian parliament passes assisted suicide laws 22 votes/18.

    F$cking animals.
    They must be named.

  8. Chris

    Nothing explains Tiger Air. Of my last five flights on Tiger, two were cancelled.

    And refunds are very paltry, and no seats offered within several days. Tiger are dead to me.

  9. v_maet

    Bear Necessities @3:43pm

    South Brisbane is a mixed bag.
    It used to be hardcore labor country with union members and factory workers living there.
    Now it has gentrfied and the hippies and young people living in rental apartments have moved in so it is going to be a close race between the green and labor first preference.

    Would be great to see the LNP preference greens to stick it to the depiuty premier.

  10. H B Bear

    A “potentially suggestive” statue of a Dominican brother, St Martin de Porres, created in Vietnam for a Catholic school in Adelaide will be “substantially” altered following a social media storm.

    Who doesn’t love a bahn mi? One of the world’s great sandwiches.

  11. H B Bear

    Tiger Air makes walking suddenly look attractive.

  12. stackja

    zyconoclast
    #2562365, posted on November 22, 2017 at 4:25 pm

    Jessica Rabbit?

  13. The Deplorable Barking Toad

    this is a test

  14. The Deplorable Barking Toad

    Well, there you go – take that , italics

  15. thefrolickingmole

    FFS we have the arseless chaps in arseless chaps televised nationally every year for the gay pride marches and the same people who coo over “isnt it lovely” are being traumatized by a new, hip, and funky progressive statue.

    What happened to “love is love” eh?

  16. Rossini

    Victorian parliament passes assisted suicide laws 22 votes/18.

    Surely now discussions must be held on the reintroduction of the death penalty for heinous crimes.
    It should be before parliament rises for the long, long Christmas break…… Should pass by at least the same margin.

  17. stackja

    H B Bear
    #2562372, posted on November 22, 2017 at 4:28 pm
    A “potentially suggestive” statue of a Dominican brother, St Martin de Porres, created in Vietnam for a Catholic school in Adelaide will be “substantially” altered following a social media storm.

    Who doesn’t love a bahn mi? One of the world’s great sandwiches.

    Honi soit qui mal y pense.

  18. Chris

    Tiger Air makes walking suddenly look attractive.

    Barefoot.
    Across the Nullabor.
    In doublegee season.

  19. stackja

    Rossini
    #2562381, posted on November 22, 2017 at 4:34 pm

    Lawyers disagree.

  20. Chris

    Honi soit qui mal y pense.

    You bad, bad boy.

  21. stackja

    Euthanasia scheme given the go-ahead in historic day for Victoria
    MONIQUE HORE. ALEX WHITE AND MATT JOHNSTON, Herald Sun
    19 minutes ago
    Subscriber only

    During the debate, government leader in the Legislative Council, Gavin Jennings, said it was a safe and conservative model and there were protections in place for vulnerable people.

    Before proceedings today, Mr Jennings flagged the government wanted the issue resolved so that other legislation didn’t start to pile up.

    “All the business of parliament will now start backing up if we do not deal with this, all the other bills on the government’s legislative program in the Assembly is not crossing over to the Council. We just need the parliament to do its work,” he said.

    Rush, rush. What could possibly go wrong?

  22. notafan

    You make a good point stackja but this is the age we live in.

  23. calli

    Someone alert the SMH! The Vietnamese have found the masseuse’s sandwich.

    Knew it would turn up eventually.

  24. wivenhoe

    Honi soit qui mal y pense.

    Short edumecation, Limited Knowledge, but I think like “Anyone who may disagree is evil”
    or something like that?

  25. Chris

    “Evil to him who thinks evil of it”

  26. Kneel

    “A threesome with Minnie Mouse and Daisy Duck?”

    “I didn’t say she was crazy, I said she was fucking Goofy” – Mickey Mouse at his divorce hearing.

  27. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Honi soit qui mal y pense.

    Ashamed be he who thinks evil?

  28. calli

    Something to do with Henry VI and garters…

  29. stackja

    Chris
    #2562387, posted on November 22, 2017 at 4:37 pm
    Honi soit qui mal y pense.

    You bad, bad boy.

    Meanwhile Bill Henson?

  30. wivenhoe

    “I didn’t say she was crazy, I said she was fucking Goofy” – Mickey Mouse at his divorce hearing.

    Seriously Laughing at that, Kneel. Memories from old that may not be “Kosher” on a “family” sight.

  31. Chris

    The Vietnamese have found the masseuse’s sandwich.
    Knew it would turn up eventually.

    Behind the sofa cushions?

  32. Stimpson J. Cat

    Honi soit qui mal y pense.

    If you are going to type that ethnic jibber jabber at least put up yellow subtitles for us White people please.

  33. Stimpy;

    I wish the Russians would nuke Melbourne so hard that not even Hipster Beards could survive the holocaust.

    POOF!
    Your wish is granted!
    Just add “Melbourne”
    Add bomb yield “Tsar Bomba” 100Mt.
    Add Surface Burst.
    Add Show casualties, fallout.
    Voila!
    Only Hipster cockroaches and bed bugs survive.
    And Canberra cops the Drop Dead and Fall Over Fallout Levels as a bonus!

  34. stackja

    notafan
    #2562390, posted on November 22, 2017 at 4:42 pm
    You make a good point stackja but this is the age we live in.

    The age we live in, I don’t like.

  35. johanna

    The Chinese tiger unsheaths another claw:

    The first Asian company to rise above half a trillion dollars in value is now officially bigger than Mark Zuckerberg’s social media behemoth.

    China’s Tencent Holdings is winning the battle for the burgeoning Southeast Asian virtual marketplace, edging ahead of rivals Alibaba and now Facebook. This is due in large part to the dominance of Tencent’s “WeChat” social media platform and ownership of online gaming blockbusters that include international competitive hit League of Legends and runaway mobile success Honor of Kings.

    At nearly one billion users, WeChat is synonymous with social media in China and has begun to look beyond those borders. First up is Malaysia, where half a billion people — one-fifth of whom are ethnically Chinese — are a juicy consumer target.

    The forefront of this battle has been Paypal-like services “WeChat Pay” and Alibab’s “Alipay.” While Alibaba’s is already available in 34 countries as opposed to WeChat Pay’s 13, the latter is leading consumers into a WeChat ecosystem that is far more than a payment platform.

    I have heard of WeChat. It came up in a story about Chinese Australians discussing politics online. Didn’t realise how huge it is.

  36. stackja

    johanna
    #2562412, posted on November 22, 2017 at 4:55 pm

    Xi still rules.

  37. calli

    They’re all on it, Joh. Constantly. I was told that it’s monitored by the government so they have to be very very careful.

  38. stackja

    Baldrick
    #2562352, posted on November 22, 2017 at 4:10 pm
    A “potentially suggestive” statue of a Dominican brother, St Martin de Porres, created in Vietnam for a Catholic school in Adelaide will be “substantially” altered following a social media storm.

    The image in question is here.
    What were they thinking?

    Leftists’ brain?

  39. Myrddin Seren

    First up is Malaysia, where half a billion people — one-fifth of whom are ethnically Chinese — are a juicy consumer target.

    What ?

  40. Oh come on

    First up is Malaysia, where half a billion people — one-fifth of whom are ethnically Chinese — are a juicy consumer target.

    Errrrrr half a billion? Don’t know where they’re getting their population stats from

  41. johanna

    That’a howler, all right, MS.

    Population of Malaysia is about 31 million.

  42. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    A “potentially suggestive” statue of a Dominican brother, St Martin de Porres, created in Vietnam for a Catholic school in Adelaide will be “substantially” altered following a social media storm.

    The only way that statue could have been approved is by Christians of pure heart, who couldn’t see what fallen filth like us see.

  43. Delta A

    Victorian parliament passes assisted suicide laws 22 votes/18.

    We have just spent almost two months in western Victoria, at Portland, Warrnambool and Halls Gap. Beautiful places, great shopping (apart from fruit and veges) and lovely people.

    I was going to list other favourite places in Victoria to which we return again and again, but the fact is, we love the entire state.

    But the soul of Victoria is slowly being killed by this Andrew’s government. I won’t elaborate; I don’t need to. Every right thinking person can see the creeping decay.

  44. Gab

    Four “Liberals” voted with the government. Shame on them.

  45. calli

    The only way that statue could have been approved is by Christians of pure heart, who couldn’t see what fallen filth like us see.

    True. But what is seen can’t be unseen.

    Design fail unfortunately.

  46. Delta A

    But the soul of Victoria is slowly being killed by this Andrew’s government.

    Wetherdill, SA’s excuse for a premier, is wreaking his own disaster on us, notably with his crazed passion to be the Renewable King of the World.

    The upside of this is that he doesn’t have time to push down our throats Kill Granny bills and safe schools child-grooming programmes.

    But I’m sure he’s just itching to get at it.

  47. Zyconoclast

    The image in question is here.
    What were they thinking?

    He owns a Viet hot bread shop?

  48. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    But the soul of Victoria is slowly being killed by this Andrew’s government. I won’t elaborate; I don’t need to. Every right thinking person can see the creeping decay.

    I’m waiting for the first allegations that Grandma was pressured into ending it all, so that the offspring could get their hands on the estate.

  49. Zyconoclast

    Someone alert the SMH! The Vietnamese have found the masseuse’s sandwich.

    Knew it would turn up eventually

    😊

  50. John Constantine

    Western Victoria is slated to become refugee dispersal areas, under the incoming shorten looting cartel.

    Activists have already begun identifying and issuing permits for buildings to be leased out as dormitory housing for the imported diversity change agents.

    All powered by western Victoria’s wind farms.

    And debt.

    Comrades.

  51. notafan

    I agree; saved money having the arm/ loaf along the body not in an outstretched arm.

    Also St Martin De Porres was a mixed race man from Lima Peru.

    True face of St Martin De Porres

  52. Rae

    62% of those who voted said Yes to SSM. What percentage that is of the total population or of the number of eligible voters is irrelevant.

    Voting was not compulsory and only 80% of eligible voters chose to exercise their right to vote. Lots of people would like to see non-compulsory voting in elections and would be happy with a similar turnout.

    The SSM Survey was a waste of $100M.

  53. OldOzzie

    Discipline has left the building and Malcolm Turnbull is in danger of leaving too

  54. OldOzzie

    Discipline has left the building and Malcolm Turnbull is in danger of leaving too

    Suddenly the question is everywhere: can Malcolm Turnbull survive?

    Now, for the first time, the question is real. Again.

    Turnbull’s cabinet leaks. Ministers position on policy such as a banking royal commission as ciphers in personal power struggles. Backbenchers freelance without admonishment on Sky News. Talk of crossing the floor abounds. All of this without the slightest regard for the Prime Minister’s prestige.

    Discipline has left the building. Turnbull is in danger of leaving too, having never fully been here.

  55. Suzanne

    Johanna, you previously suggested a meeting of Canberra Cats. Are you still interested in getting together?

  56. Marty

    From “1066 and all that”

    Edward III had very good manners. One day at a royal dance he noticed some men-about-court mocking a lady whose garter had come off, whereupon to put her at her ease he stopped the dance and made the memorable epitaph: “Honi soie qui mal y pense” (“Honey, your silk stocking’s hanging down”) and having replaced the garter with a romantic gesture gave the ill-mannered courtiers the Order of the Bath. (This was an extreme form of torture in the Middle Ages.)

  57. JC

    I had forgotten what a tangled up mess it is to own an apartment in NYC.
    The building co-op wants 2.5% of the sale price as a fee on the purchase. of course they do, as they deserve it.The board also demands a 25K fee to ensure that you have placed adequate wall to wall carpeting in the bedrooms. It has to be attached! There also has to be adequate covering in the living areas.

    Want to renovate? the building wants a 30K fee and there’s all sorts of bullshit like the need for a specialist to go around the apartment and check for asbestos before the renos commence and this has to be first reported to the board.

    There are 35 pages dealing with rules with respect to renovations. 35 fucking pages!

    It’s the ultimate Doctors wife city.

    I told wifey I’m baling on this idea as it’s too gut wrenching, but still is in mediation stage.

  58. Chris

    The SSM Survey was a waste of $100M.

    I strongly disagree. It was much better spend than for instance the pink batts or the $900 Harvey Norman TV subsidy.
    It confers a strong smell of legitimacy on SSM legislation, which was nearly inevitable but hotly contested outside the goats cheese curtain.

  59. notafan

    JC just buy a chateau in South west France instead. Or two.

    You can have great views and click clack in your high heels on wooden floors all you like.

  60. Mak Siccar

    Prof Sinc.

    From the Oz

    Why bitcoin won’t work

    The Australian3:52PM November 22

    As bitcoin — an alternative global currency — breaks another new record with a serious jump in value this week to cross $US8,300, one of the world’s biggest banks has spelled out why it won’t work.

    Paris-based BNP Paribas has gone beyond the usual arguments about crime, security and tax evasion to pinpoint why bitcoin can’t fulfil the promise at the heart of its success — to offer consumers an alternative means of exchange to banks and currencies as we know them.

    The French Bank is reacting to the growing acceptance of bitcoin and other crypto-currencies around the world. In Japan, bitcoin has been accepted as “a legitimate method of payment,” while in the US, the Chicago Mercantile Exchange is planning to trade bitcoin futures.

    Here’s the main flaws from BNP Paribas:

    1. It offers no lender of last resort — Every shaky European bank would certainly understand quickly the importance of this function in a currency. If there is a crisis, bitcoin has no well-funded regulator to step in and cover losses. BNP says in that scenario consumers would rush to find real cash which could in turn create a run on banks, the biggest nightmare in the financial system.

    READ MORE
    Bitcoins: a boy’s best friendALAN KOHLER
    To bit or not to bitcoin?JAMES KIRBY
    The great scam of bitcoinALAN KOHLER
    2. Deflation — Though speculators love that there is only a finite number of bitcoins, this means you have the opposite of inflation as a looming problem. With just 16.7 million bitcoins in circulation, the risk of inflation is eliminated but deflation, already an issue in global trade, could cause a range of problems in the future.

    3. Unreliable exchange of value — Bitcoin’s wildly fluctuating share price is perfect for traders but hell for consumers if they wish to use it in any significant fashion.

    4. No profits for central banks — If bitcoin genuinely starts to replace cash as we know it central banks will lose a key source of income called seigniorage, which is the profit they get from printing money. No government will want to subsidise central banks which have lost a revenue source.

    In short, BNP Paribas infers bitcoin could undermine the global monetary system as we know it. On that basis that bank suggests a global co-ordinated move to regulate bitcoin is on the cards.

    In Sydney, AMP chief economist Shane Oliver has also been looking at the issue. Usefully, Oliver says he does not fully understand bitcoin (who really does?) and though he worries it is a bubble he also says there is every chance the value of bitcoin may keep going up for some time.

    Intriguingly, Oliver also floats the idea that bitcoin and its crypto-currency variants may survive — or at least the blockchain technology behind them may survive. But Oliver believes the cryptocurrencies of the future will be official just like the legal tender of notes and coins of

  61. notafan

    If I understand Rae the same survey is both a legitimate exercise in democracy and a waste of money.

  62. How about we celebrate resilience every time the left celebrates diversity?

  63. JC

    notafan
    #2562459, posted on November 22, 2017 at 5:45 pm

    JC just buy a chateau in South west France instead. Or two.

    You can have great views and click clack in your high heels on wooden floors all you like.

    Fan.. I don;t trust the Frogs. In any event, the golden rule should always be.. Is it an English speaking country. If it’s not, fuck it.

  64. egg_

    There is some heavy mathematics required to analyse the right handling of some derivatives. But that’s specialised stuff.

    From previous, IME in Fed Govt Enterprise, Financial Planners are ultra conservative to their detriment – in planning the Engineering of future terrestrial bearer capacity to the then Moree Satellite Earth Station, the growth in domestic consumer demand for International phone calls was demonstrably exponential, yet these tards would only extrapolate in linear fashion literally via a ruler FFS when we were programming a Wang mainframe to a fair degree of accuracy.
    Economic ‘Science’?
    Bulldust!

  65. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    But the soul of Victoria is slowly being killed by this Andrew’s government. I won’t elaborate; I don’t need to. Every right thinking person can see the creeping decay.

    I am going to open a death camp for NSW’s grannies in Wodonga.

  66. areff

    JC: Buy a condo, not a co-op. Board problems vanish

  67. Rossini

    Gab
    #2562427, posted on November 22, 2017 at 5:19 pm
    Four “Liberals” voted with the government. Shame on them.
    Have they got names………shame them………….let their parents/grandparents/partners know

  68. H B Bear

    I am going to open a death camp for NSW’s grannies in Wodonga.

    You can use the inland rail line. Hitler would approve. Loading the cattle trucks might get a bit awkward.

  69. Rev. Archibald

    Do we still have a pole- smoking termite as PM?
    Also: More cartoons of ducks with enormous tits please.

  70. Baldrick

    zyconoclast
    #2562365, posted on November 22, 2017 at 4:25 pm
    John Lasseter taking extended leave.
    What did he do? Fondle the animated actresses?

    Another card carrying Democrat:
    John Lasseter Political Contributions in 2012
    – Pixar Animation Studios/Chief Creative Officer – $30,800 -OBAMA VICTORY FUND 2012 – Democrat
    – Pixar Animation Studios/Chief Creative Officer – $35,800 -OBAMA VICTORY FUND 2012 – Democrat

  71. Chris

    Loading the cattle trucks might get a bit awkward.

    THe difference between a truckload of politicians and a truckload of ball bearings?
    You can’t unload ball bearings with pitchforks.

  72. Tel

    I am going to open a death camp for NSW’s grannies in Wodonga.

    Make sure you give them one last chance to re-write their last will and testament. Always remember: profits first.

  73. areff

    If they’d left out the loaf bread, no problem — like this loaf-free window, for example. Well, perhaps not.

  74. thefrolickingmole

    Gorgeous George Monopod from the Gruinaid is nearly at the “al-snackbar” stage of eco-ctastophism.
    Hes realized his “green” mates are about as clean as a indulgence peddler of the middle ages and the only solution is global poverty.

    Yes, seriously, thats what his argument boils down to.

    The ancillary promise is that, through green consumerism, we can reconcile perpetual growth with planetary survival. But a series of research papers reveal there is no significant difference between the ecological footprints of people who care and people who don’t. One recent article, published in the journal Environment and Behaviour, says those who identify themselves as conscious consumers use more energy and carbon than those who do not.

    Why? Because environmental awareness tends to be higher among wealthy people. It is not attitudes that govern our impact on the planet but income. The richer we are, the bigger our footprint, regardless of our good intentions. Those who see themselves as green consumers, the research found, mainly focused on behaviours that had “relatively small benefits”.

    I know people who recycle meticulously, measure the water in their kettles, then take their holidays in the Caribbean
    I know people who recycle meticulously, save their plastic bags, carefully measure the water in their kettles, then take their holidays in the Caribbean, cancelling any environmental savings a hundredfold. I’ve come to believe that the recycling licences their long-haul flights. It persuades people they’ve gone green, enabling them to overlook their greater impacts.


    Green consumerism, material decoupling, sustainable growth: all are illusions, designed to justify an economic model that is driving us to catastrophe. The current system, based on private luxury and public squalor, will immiserate us all: under this model, luxury and deprivation are one beast with two heads.

    We need a different system, rooted not in economic abstractions but in physical realities, that establish the parameters by which we judge its health. We need to build a world in which growth is unnecessary, a world of private sufficiency and public luxury. And we must do it before catastrophe forces our hand.

    Watermellons, every one of them.

  75. JC

    Mak

    Bitcoin is far too volatile to be used as a currency. It had a huge move last week for instance and that would be unpalatable in real life. Why anyone would want to own that stuff other than to just mess around trading is beyond me.

    There’s also this point. When that crap was trading at around a buck no one was playing except gamers. Now that it’s in the stratosphere I’m receiving junk mail about owning the stuff.

  76. Rev. Archibald

    Mole, that post was dangerously long and full of random italics and bolding.
    Watch yourself.

  77. egg_

    Do we still have a pole- smoking termite as PM?

    Waffleroach (c/- Rabz?)

    Wafflouse, lower than a ‘roach?

  78. egg_

    Waffle McFaggot?
    A Scottish bunch of sticks?

  79. thefrolickingmole

    Rev. Archibald
    Also: More cartoons of ducks with enormous tits please.

    Nearest i could manage…

  80. egg_

    that post was dangerously long

    A few ladies have made that observation…

  81. JC

    Fan

    From what I’ve heard/read.

    The trouble with frog property are the restrictions on what you can do with renos and even repairs!
    The local government there is terrible and also very capricious.
    The added problem is that frog tradesmen are the laziest human beings on earth perhaps even beating the Saudi in that respect.

  82. H B Bear

    When George Moonbeam is hunched over a dung fire roasting his insect burger after bathing in the local river I’ll take his Grauniad scrawlings seriously. I don’t think it will ever happen.

  83. thefrolickingmole

    Rev. Archibald

    Wake UP SHEEPle!!!
    (random things about Soros, illuminati, lizard overlords and pizza places)

  84. thefrolickingmole

    Rev. Archibald
    #2562492, posted on November 22, 2017 at 6:11 pm
    You disgust me.

    So gone up in your estimation of me then!

  85. Chris

    So what do people think about funding an inter-dimensional money transfer via Bitcoin? I believe that this limited three-dimensional investment space of ours is likely to offer growth opportunities via parallel dimensionalities, and investing in Bitcoin will see that value vanish from our perception space as it is moved to another, and arbitrage at that point could be a sweet little earner.

  86. Rae

    If I understand Rae the same survey is both a legitimate exercise in democracy and a waste of money.

    That’s a big “if”. You do misunderstand me. I offered no opinion on the surveys democratic legitimacy.

  87. notafan

    Have head very bad stories about Spain, France not so much.

    I met a lady in Chartres who was renovating a 14th C building with her English American husband but she was French and I’m sure that helps.

    No doubt without a very good agent there could be many traps.

    I was hoping you could guinea pig for us.

  88. Stimpson J. Cat

    The only way that statue could have been approved is by Christians of pure heart, who couldn’t see what fallen filth like us see.

    “Take this bread, and give thanks. “

  89. Chris

    Frolicking, the style is perfect, except you need to pay 35,000 taxpayer dollars to Margot for bolding.

  90. Tel

    The trouble with frog property are the restrictions on what you can do with renos and even repairs! The local government there is terrible and also very capricious.

    If Gérard Depardieu didn’t want to be French then I’m not particularly interested either.

    Australia is bad, but the French socialism is deeply entrenched.

  91. Rev. Archibald

    Some little arsehole took a swing at a colleague yesterday.
    3 days suspension.
    If one of these retards so much as touches me now I’m calling the cops on ’em.
    I’ve been gypped.
    I am old enough that when we were at school if we arced up they beat us on the arse with the cane.
    Now I’m the grown up and we just have to put up with their shit.
    By the time I’m old the government will be well practiced at putting us to death and using us for spares and to make cosmetics.
    My whole life is all just bad timing.
    We also got to watch older boomer brothers and cousins having the fucking time of their lives with the drugs and the free love and chicks with their boobs out.
    Then we got old enough and it was all AIDS and ODs and HECs loans.

  92. Leigh Lowe

    I am going to open a death camp for NSW’s grannies in Wodonga.

    No better place to put people if you want them to lose the will to live.

  93. Myrddin Seren

    I know people who …………. carefully measure the water in their kettles,

    Imagine inhabiting a world where this is considered a notable achievement ?

  94. Tom

    You disgust me.

    Everyone disgusts you, Arky.

    Had you been born in the 17th century, you could have been the titular head of the Arky movement before Thomas Malthus invented Malthusian misanthropy — the blueprint for 21st century communism (a.k.a. Greenfilth).

  95. Chris

    Notafan, if I were rich enough to renovate a 13thC building in France I would count it my duty. Perhaps a small chateau with a boiling oil platform over the gate and a teensy 10Ha of appellation controllee pinot and shiraz.

  96. Geriatric Mayfly

    Some little arsehole took a swing at a colleague yesterday.

    Poor mite has a case of Oppositional Defiance Disorder (ODD) Believed to be difficult to treat, but with enough gasping staff, counsellors and fifth rate psychologists rushing about to mop his little brow he will make steady progress.

  97. Makka

    The trouble with frog property

    TAXES!

  98. Rev. Archibald

    and the third wave feminism.
    Chicks now not only walk around habitually with their boobs out like they did in 1974, but they will persecute you for asking to see them.
    So unfair.

  99. Rev. Archibald

    don’t walk around with them out that should read.

  100. JC

    Makka
    #2562517, posted on November 22, 2017 at 6:32 pm

    The trouble with frog property

    TAXES!

    How high would they be for Fan’s chateaus.

  101. Geriatric Mayfly

    Perhaps a small chateau with a boiling oil platform over the gate and a teensy 10Ha of appellation controllee pinot and shiraz.

    One such in Margaux. Most awkward part of an acquisition, will be negotiating with the Rothschilds.

  102. Makka

    On French property you need to remember that the French generally don’t go in for old/renovated property. They much prefer newer contemporary builds in their regional styles. Renos are the love of foreigners which is a distinctly smaller and much more illiquid buyers market when you want to offload.

  103. Rev. Archibald

    Not that I get to see any birds with decent boobs anyway.
    Average age of the wizened old harpies and bush pigs I work with is about 120.

  104. JC

    One such in Margaux. Most awkward part of an acquisition, will be negotiating with the Rothschilds.

    Don’t mention the Rothschilds. It’s like a silver cross to a vampire if Annie sees that name being dropped around here. Sends her into a serious hysteria.

  105. MsDolittle

    “Fear, smear and no idea. ” in Qld.

  106. calli

    I’d like one with a dungeon.

  107. Rev. Archibald

    Why else would I find Clem Ford even vaguely not projectile vomit inducing?

  108. Rev. Archibald

    I remember international test umpire Fred Goodall giving me three with the cane.
    That bastard.
    Three long bleeding welts across both buttocks.
    Delivered backhand did Fred.
    I hope that prick is dead.

  109. Rev. Archibald

    No, still alive.
    ..

    In the 1999 New Year Honours, Goodall was made an Officer of the New Zealand Order of Merit, for services to sport

    ..
    Prick.

  110. Baldrick

    Rae
    #2562447, posted on November 22, 2017 at 5:30 pm
    62% of those who voted said Yes to SSM. What percentage that is of the total population or of the number of eligible voters is irrelevant.

    Fuck off Septimus

  111. Chris

    Margaux is lovely. The one I am thinking of might be nearer Saint Emilion. Fortunately negotiating with Rothschilds is not part of fantasy ownership.

  112. notafan

    JC I’m not sure about taxes but make sure you ask the agent when you make the offer.

    No 64 on that link looked perfect for you, pool, vineyard and only 40 ks from Pau, close enough to San Sebastian if you get sick of Frog speak too.

  113. Chris

    Fuck off Septimus

    Sucked me in again. Damn.
    Fuck off Septimus.

  114. Makka

    How high would they be for Fan’s chateaus.

    Google is your friend for exactitude. My experience was close to 20% on resale with another 5-10% on legals and other local stuff. That was land to build in Pyrenees- Atlantique dept. There are reasons for why French property is a very steady in price. Legals, local law and other red tape restrictions and mazes dampen serious speculation. When a foreigner purchases property (me, late 90’s) there you needed to make wills according to their ancient Nepoleonic family and descendants laws and such.

    It’s off putting but still I’d consider retiring there. Gorgeous countryside, especially the Alps and Basque regions. Not the larger cities though for obvious reasons.

  115. Top Ender

    just buy a chateau in South West France instead…

    Seriously – would be nice to spend some later years there.

    Pros:
    – French baguettes, scenery and ladies
    – Leave Australian nanny-state crap, taxes, and useless politicians behind.

    Cons:
    – Mussie terrorists
    – only speaking very bad high school Frog
    – the EU
    – massive immigration problem

  116. MsDolittle

    Fuck off Septimus.

    Echo over here too.

  117. egg_

    that post was dangerously long

    “As the nun said to the Bishop”, Rev.?

  118. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Sean Marsh looking shaky for tomorrow and a ball hasn’t even been bowled.

  119. Makka

    Cons:
    Mussie terrorists
    – only speaking very bad high school Frog
    – the EU
    – massive immigration problem

    You’re ok in the SW. Basque region, muzzies don’t really go there. Pau area (within 15-20km) is perfect; decent size regional city, TGV, Int’l airport, beaches not far, mountains, sublime weather, amazing cuisine and not at all pricey. From there to the coast, south to the border and then back into the Pyrenees is God’s country.

  120. egg_

    What percentage that is of the total population or of the number of eligible voters is irrelevant.

    If only 30% of those eligible voted?

  121. Tom

    Fuck off Septimus

    Scum takes a while to float to the surface.

  122. Rev. Archibald

    Fred wasn’t all bad.
    He had a fidgety nervous demeanour and watching him up on the stage in assembly was entertaining.
    Richard Hadlee was an old boy and did at least one assembly while I was there too, probably at Freds invitation.
    Still a prick.

  123. Rev. Archibald

    #2562547, posted on November 22, 2017 at 6:55 pm

    ..
    Oh stop it.

  124. Tom

    Sean Marsh looking shaky for tomorrow and a ball hasn’t even been bowled.

    He has a dicky back. Glenn Maxwell has been sent to Brissy as his replacement. Expect a Maxwell ton.

  125. Eyrie

    Let’s face it Makka, still EU and people are subjects not citizens. Not far from Toulouse which IIRC has a Mussie problem.
    There are too many shitholes on this planet, mainly created by governments.

  126. zyconoclast

    Nothing explains Tiger Air. Of my last five flights on Tiger, two were cancelled.

    And refunds are very paltry, and no seats offered within several days. Tiger are dead to me.

    Is this a market opening for Infidel Tiger Air?

  127. IT;

    I am going to open a death camp for NSW’s grannies in Wodonga.

    I think the lines at the old Latchford Barracks are free. Would make a great holding camp. Surrounded with barbed wire, the Grannies would get tripped up with their Zimmer Frames as they went over the top.
    I’ll put in an expression of interest for you, eh?

  128. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Expect a Maxwell ton.

    Right after we get a budget surplus.

  129. Nick

    Nota, I’m planning on retiring to France, the property value is astounding. Skip the Chateaus though, they are money pits that are hard to re sell.

  130. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Is this a market opening for Infidel Tiger Air?

    Infidel Tiger Airways

  131. chrisl

    Two nights in a row in Suburban Melbourne the power has gone off at 7 pm This has never happened before! The time of night when solar is waning and aircos are being turned on ! Bingo OverloAd! It ‘s going to be a long summer! And it’s only November!

  132. Rockdoctor

    Topic of moving overseas came up today with some acquaintances. All of us in resources, all of us seeing the writing on the wall from intelligent people we know reciting green propaganda as it were God’s truth to automation that is sweeping through the industry. We are on notice & we know it.

    Funny all three of us thinking the same thing, especially with parts of Asia in a rebound with commodities. I am the only one who has actually worked outside the country though was still a resident in Aus. I got by the feeling a term of a Shorten Government will probably turn this from idle chatter to actions. Have relations in other professions who have been actively looking at the same but towards Europe as their professions are more office based.

    It would interesting to see the figures and trends over the various downturns. I can’t seem to find much in the way of statistics under 10 years old…

  133. Tel

    Infidel Tiger Airways

    Yeah… you put that on the website, I’ll bet there’s some fine print when it turns out the experience is nothing like it’s made up to be.

  134. notafan

    Chateaus are a bit outside my price range. Someone I know knows an Aussie who has a chateau on the Camino that he and his wife operate as a b&b so it is possible.

    I want to rent for 12 months and see how it goes and then maybe something on the edge of a village with a little land.

    In the south west corner too.

    I’m not sure I have enough intestinal fortitude and it depends a bit/a lot on my children and possible grandchildren.

    I know about Toulouse but then Melbourne Sydney aren’t problem free either.

  135. Rae

    Today I was driving behind a car with plates that said: Victoria – The Place to Be

    I thought ” If that’s the case, why are you here and not there?”

  136. Makka

    It’s a decent enough stretch from Toulouse, Eyrie. Pau is an old Uni town so it also has a great vibe about the place. It all comes down to personal likes/dislikes. I and MrsM spent a lot of time in Dept 64 and fell in love with the place. So many options and interests all so close by. Just one example, less than one hour drive from Pau I’m fly fishing in a pristine mountain stream without a soul seen all day (and caught a feed!) .The TGV takes you anywhere in Europe and it’s about an hour flightfrom Gatwick. We know local people there too which helps enormously.

    I look at it this way, wherever you live there’s pros and cons. Got to be happy but.

  137. entropy

    What do you think of New Caledonia as a place to bale to?

  138. Nick

    Nota, prices vary a lot, with the Loire, very good value. Places popular with the Brits are more expensive, but the value, in general, will surprise you.

  139. notafan

    I’ve seen it Nick.

    Orlean old town near the river was also very beautiful but I think the weather down south is much better.

  140. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Two pairs of Tiffany and Co sunglasses each year
    Pilates lessons until she is 97

    Tiffany frames are not so expensive. Can’t see the drama here.
    OPSM have them; mine cost about $550.
    Medibank Private refund some of that.
    Maybe her sunnies have diamond edges. 🙂

    Pilates till ninety-seven has to be a joke.
    Pilates is cruel and unusual punishment.
    It over-stretches you and there’s a death rate from boredom.
    I got out just in time. Didn’t finish my ten lessons, left at number six.
    They are so serious about it all.
    Woe betide you if you inadvertently fart and ruin the karmic air.

  141. Empire GTHO Phase III

    Infidel Tiger Airways

    Yeah… you put that on the website, I’ll bet there’s some fine print when it turns out the experience is nothing like it’s made up to be.

    Complimentary gobbies in first class followed by a law suit from the hostie.

    Fasten your seatbelt and welcome to your brave new world.

  142. thefrolickingmole

    They have just finished debating a serious bill which will allow people to be killed.

    Why do they seem so jolly?

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/nov/22/victoria-to-become-first-australian-state-to-legalise-euthanasia-after-historic-vote#img-1

    Check the picture for the granny stabbers reactions to passing the bill.

  143. Stimpson J. Cat

    Some little arsehole took a swing at a colleague yesterday.
    3 days suspension.

    3 days is f$ck all.
    I’ve had that.
    He should have got at least 2 weeks.

  144. Empire GTHO Phase III

    What do you think of New Caledonia as a place to bale to?

    I’m told the deer hunting is good.

  145. H B Bear

    Sean Marsh looking shaky for tomorrow and a ball hasn’t even been bowled.

    Cricket Australia should borrow those screens from the VRC and shoot him. Would have saved a lot of time and aggravation. My interest in Test cricket with this collection of misfits is right up there with soccer.

  146. Chris

    Nota, I’m planning on retiring to France, the property value is astounding. Skip the Chateaus though, they are money pits that are hard to re sell.

    Nick, check out the gun laws. You can get some good shit, and self defense is legal.

  147. Empire GTHO Phase III

    Cricket Australia should borrow those screens from the VRC and shoot him. Would have saved a lot of time and aggravation. My interest in Test cricket with this collection of misfits is right up there with soccer.

    +1

    I’m spending Boxing Day with the family this year.

  148. Gab

    Nota, I’m planning on retiring to France, the property value is astounding. Skip the Chateaus though, they are money pits that are hard to re sell.

    Pity. I can do a fabulous impersonation of a buxom French maid.

  149. H B Bear

    They have just finished debating a serious bill which will allow people to be killed.
    Why do they seem so jolly?

    If I lived in the CFMEU Republic of Victoriastan I’d probably be smiling if I knew someone was going to put me out of my misery.

  150. Makka

    Topic of moving overseas came up today with some acquaintances. All of us in resources, all of us seeing the writing on the wall from intelligent people we know reciting green propaganda as it were God’s truth to automation that is sweeping through the industry. We are on notice & we know it.

    Exploration might well be quiet but sunk capital will have to work hard to extract the resource. Existing operations should do reasonably well. I agree with JC, commodities look to be generally well supported into the future, say 3-5 years.

    Automation will be a killer for drivers and certain types of operators sure. However maintenance skills will increase in demand as all that new plant ages over the coming decade and beyond.

  151. Rev. Archibald

    If I lived in the CFMEU Republic of Victoriastan I’d probably be smiling if I knew someone was going to put me out of my misery.

    ..
    Hoi!
    Some of us have to live here you know.
    Doesn’t help having you lot constantly laughing at us.
    Anyway, once Shorten is ensconced we’ll all be Victorians, don’t worry yourself about that.

  152. Pickles

    All this talk of unduly influencing Old Crones and Sandy Stones to leave a significant devise or bequest in a will before the Tontine is applied is all very Cathy Jackson crass. However if a gentleman were to be approached to act as Executor and Trustee then a gentleman ought. A modest commission such as the State Trustee standard 6% would be appropriate.

  153. Empire GTHO Phase III

    Pity. I can do a fabulous impersonation of a buxom French maid.

    You’ve always been my favourite, Gab 🙂

  154. cohenite

    Frydenberg has a desperate and dateless op in the Australian today which can no longer be cached and linked to. Frydenberg is symptomatic of modern politicians: a smart man either too lazy to understand alarmism and its evil twin, renewables, are bullshit or is prepared to lie about it because his hideous master turdball and the Canberra scum require him to act as though he does believe it. This shonky bastard with a scalp which looks as though it has skidded on a lush parliamentary carpet as he tries to free his tongue from turdball’s arse says this:

    Second, reliability. Blackouts, load-shedding
    & the urgent deployment of diesel generators
    in South Australia & Victoria have underlined
    the increasing fragility of our system. The
    NEG fixes this problem by requiring retailers
    in a region by region basis to access a
    certain amount of dispatchable power —
    power that can be controlled irrespective of
    the weather. No longer will intermittent
    sources of power such as wind and solar be
    entering the grid without the adequate backup,
    be it pumped hydro, batteries, gas or
    coal.

    He has already conceded the cost of renewables now he acknowledges their unreliability. Why the fuck do we have them then? Because of alarmism; the idea human emissions of CO2 control the global climate. This wretched, wrong idea has fried whatever synapses politicians have; not because it is right but because of their fear of contradicting it and therefore incurring the wrath of as motley a crew of media scumbags, academics and third rate scientists on the make as you could hope to find stuck to the sewer of society.

  155. Delta A

    We also got to watch older boomer brothers and cousins having the fucking time of their lives with the drugs and the free love and chicks with their boobs out.

    Silly boy! You were watching the Stones, movie stars and the filthy old film producers who are now being hauled up for their perversions.

    Most Boomers, at that time, were home working their gizzards out, raising babies and paying 17% interest rates on their 11 square houses in developments on the outskirts of civilisation.

  156. Makka

    Very lawyerly of you, Pickles.

  157. Nick

    Pity. I can do a fabulous impersonation of a buxom French maid.

    Hungary is good value too, and they take a hard line on rag heads too. Pity the language of the Magyars isn’t easy to learn.

  158. Rev. Archibald

    Turnbull is expiring quicker than a ninety year old millionaire with greedy offepring in a Vic nursing home.
    You’ll all get a goodly dose of freeways to nowhere, closed power stations and CFMEU rule soon enough.
    You can only pray you can put up with it with the fortitude and good grace of my example.

  159. Frank

    I am going to open a death camp for NSW’s grannies in Wodonga.

    I was thinking of some outreach type program in conjunction with the local council, something along the lines of parkour for seniors. Run it for free but get first dibs on the youtube channel, could be lucrative.

  160. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    What do you think of New Caledonia as a place to bale to?

    It’s a French territory, and the capital, Noumea, has a few French restaurants, and a few luxury French boutiques.

  161. MsDolittle

    What do you think of New Caledonia as a place to bale to?
    Fine if you like Pacific grunge + and bad internet connection.

  162. Bruce of Newcastle

    Exploration might well be quiet but sunk capital will have to work hard to extract the resource.

    Only stuff happening is lithium and cobalt. And gold of course.
    Lithium, cobalt and REE will collapse when Tesla and the climate scam do.

  163. Gab

    Pity the language of the Magyars isn’t easy to learn.

    It’s my Mother Tongue and there are some fabulous vineyards in Hungary.

  164. MsDolittle

    If the whole world swaps to battery storage when would we hit peak lithium? Stimpy will know.

  165. Nick

    Gab, it’s fast becoming an option. Lake Balaton as an example, is great area, close to Vienna too.

  166. Farmer Gez

    Keating said he’d do Hewson slowly.
    Turnbull is doing himself slowly.
    Euthanasia as a reality TV show “A Death In Canberra” holiday viewing.

  167. cohenite

    Nick, check out the gun laws. You can get some good shit, and self defense is legal.

    In France? Perhaps if you’re a muslim.

  168. Rev. Archibald

    I think pumped hydo is partly the way to go.
    With some nuclear and fossils.
    No way the greens will let that sort of sensible hydro engineering take place.

  169. Rev. Archibald

    If someone invented a virus that only killed greenies we could get really good results in energy. Aside from a lack of mountains and too many Eucalpts, this continent has it all.

  170. Rev. Archibald

    There would be a lot of stored energy in Eucalpt forests.

  171. Tel

    I think pumped hydo is partly the way to go.
    With some nuclear and fossils.

    The economic value of pumped hydro depends on the daily difference between high demand / low supply and low demand / high supply. With solar and wind the supply is very peaky so the pumped hydro becomes more valuable. With nuclear, the supply is stable but difficult to quickly shift so there’s still fluctuations in demand but those are fairly predictable… thus pumped hydro becomes less profitable if nuclear power is available online.

  172. Rockdoctor

    Some of the advances in Geophysical logging & modelling is making us redundant as well. I can work my way round the software but am no expert like the youngsters coming through. I still hold my own that’s why I am still in there, have seen plenty of others including drillers who fallen by the wayside because they have refused to or even attempt to adapt to new ways.

    As for a lot of the blue collar workforce, nil bad blood but have seen the ways they have allowed their union to essentially price themselves out of the game so hard to feel sympathy. Best one I saw was CMFEU piqueting on the end of Mills Ave adjacent to Goonyella rd Moranbah in the middle of the boom because their drivers already upwards of $160,000 p.a at the time needed a something like 30% pay rise. As I remember it made headlines in the National news and the public outcry killed the media campaign overnight. We had a giggle as the strike was the week after Easter… Some things never die…

  173. Rev. Archibald

    Why wait millions of years for them to become coal?

  174. Snoopy

    Why go o/s. Why not a Dutch style home right here in Australia?

  175. Chris

    There would be a lot of stored energy in Eucalpt forests.

    Until recently, in Portugal.

  176. Rev. Archibald

    thus pumped hydro becomes less profitable if nuclear power is available online.

    ..
    Just go nuclear then.

  177. Chris

    RockDoc, were you part of BMA? I had some to do with them years ago.

  178. cohenite

    I think pumped hydo is partly the way to go.
    With some nuclear and fossils.

    Pumped hydro is ridiculous; it wastes up to 25% of the stored energy in the pumping and release; who in their right minds would spend $10 to get $7.50 back. Tumut 3 already has a huge pump capacity and it has never been used for that reason. Turdball is as stupid a pm as we have had.

    Nuclear, thorium and fossils are all you need.

  179. Oh come on

    It’s my Mother Tongue and there are some fabulous vineyards in Hungary.

    Doesn’t Hungary do some rather good fortified wines?

  180. Tel

    Just go nuclear then.

    That’s a cheap and powerful energy source, if you have good trust in the plant operators, and you have a good system for decommissioning and waste disposal.

    To be honest, I think Australians would screw it up. Maybe I’m just jaded.

  181. Makka

    Doesn’t Hungary do some rather good fortified wines?

    Excellent beers , sausages and salami too.

  182. Tel

    Pumped hydro is ridiculous; it wastes up to 25% of the stored energy in the pumping and release; who in their right minds would spend $10 to get $7.50 back.

    cohenite: at 3AM the same amount of energy sells at a much lower price than at 7PM.

  183. P

    I was very disappointed to hear Julia on the 7.30 Report tonight.
    Her hate for the Anglican clergy as aired tonight was unpleasant.
    Negative in every aspect.

    My best friend’s s0n trained at Moore College and my doctor’s son also trained there. I was a friend of the wife of my local doctor.
    I am conversant with the life and many of the teachings there during the 80’s.

  184. Nick

    Doesn’t Hungary do some rather good fortified wines?

    Tokaji, though not fortified, is good.

  185. Rev. Archibald

    Pumped hydro is ridiculous;

    ..
    It’s got to beat the shit out of batteries.

  186. Oh come on

    Some little arsehole took a swing at a colleague yesterday.
    3 days suspension.

    Unless it’s an inschool suspension, it’s a 3 day vacation. Inschool suspensions are pretty much the final punishment that even the real little turds don’t like.

    Trouble is that schools don’t often hand them out because staff have to be diverted from their regular duties so that someone remains with the suspended student throughout the suspension period.

  187. Gab

    Tokaji, though not fortified, is good.

    Yes. And Palinka is delicious too. Better than that Italian drain cleaner aka Grappa. 😀

  188. Rockdoctor

    Have worked for BMA/BMC as a contractor but only lasted 9 months. Very political dog eat dog culture and I asked to be reassigned through the consultancy I was employed at the time.

    Round Moranbah have done work for Vale mostly when they were in the game, some for Rio and a few minor CSG contracts when it boomed. Lately have been taking what I can get and mainly through contacts, it is picking up but mainly concentrated on the Mine Leases at present. Price just needs to be right again…

  189. notafan

    France has nuclear power stations.

    Big ones.

  190. Rev. Archibald

    I don’t understand why the battery thing doesn’t get laughed out of existence.
    It just seems so absurd.

  191. John Constantine

    Shorten will allow anybody to flee his Australian workers paradise, but will tax any capital belonging to anybody trying to escape at the top marginal tax rate.

    Unless a consultancy fee is bribepaid to a member of the looting Class.

    Shorten has it stitched up each way, collect facilitation payments for those wanting in to Australia’s welfare system, and collect escape fee facilitation payments for those fleeing the crash.

  192. cohenite

    Tel

    #2562628, posted on November 22, 2017 at 8:02 pm

    Pumped hydro is ridiculous; it wastes up to 25% of the stored energy in the pumping and release; who in their right minds would spend $10 to get $7.50 back.

    cohenite: at 3AM the same amount of energy sells at a much lower price than at 7PM.

    Let me rephrase it: who would use 10MW to get 7.5MW back? Cost is irrelevant.

  193. cohenite

    Rev. Archibald

    #2562633, posted on November 22, 2017 at 8:04 pm

    Pumped hydro is ridiculous;

    ..
    It’s got to beat the shit out of batteries.

    Pumped hydro is a battery. Normal batteries have internal resistance; to store energy in a battery costs 10-25% of the stored energy. Using batteries as a power source is nuts.

  194. Rev. Archibald

    but will tax any capital belonging to anybody trying to escape at the top marginal tax rate.

    ..
    Jokes on him.
    I have turned all my assets into gold and am storing it up my arse.

  195. jupes

    It just seems so absurd.

    We live in possibly the most absurd time in history.

    Homo ‘marriage’, choose your own gender, demonisation of the cheapest fuel, open borders, multiculturalism, emasculation of armed forces … the list goes on.

  196. Rev. Archibald

    A giant clockwork spring would seem more reslistic than batteries,

  197. jupes

    I have turned all my assets into gold and am storing it up my arse.

    They’ll get you at the airport Rev.

    Some big, bearded Musso will be given the task of retrieving that gold.

  198. Bruce of Newcastle

    France has nuclear power stations.

    Big ones.

    Not for long.

    France may close up to 17 nuclear reactors by 2025 – Hulot (July)

    Nuclear is haram to the green-progressive religion. They want to built windmills, including on top of dead ANZACs.

  199. Rev. Archibald

    At least then when they send us all to gulags we could use a treadmill to wind the giant clockwork baseload backup to solar.

  200. Chris

    BMA… I spent a happy year doing needs analysis and software conversion and stuff. The huge ranchhouse offices were depopulated, as they had cut heads by about 75%.

    I knew one guy took redundancy from dozer op. He put his money into long-term investments in blue chips. Next thing I know he is reading the Rivkin Report, day trading and learning how to work option swaps and split infinitives. Finally his wife went to work back at the mine – as a cleaner.

  201. Rev. Archibald

    That is why I’m staying here to watch it all burn down Jupes.

  202. Tel

    Let me rephrase it: who would use 10MW to get 7.5MW back? Cost is irrelevant.

    Why would anyone ship iPhones from China to Australia? Why ship coal from Australia to China?

    Because there’s a profit to be made if you can buy low and sell high.

  203. Rev Archy;

    If someone invented a virus that only killed greenies we could get really good results in energy. Aside from a lack of mountains and too many Eucalpts, this continent has it all.

    You realise there would be a mountain of dead greenies?
    Climbing would be difficult because smelly/rotting/yucky stuff, but it would be paradise for raptors few a few weeks.

  204. Bruce of Newcastle

    Britain has been selling coal fired electricity to France this month.

    “Polluting” UK coal plants export power to France as cold weather bites (last week)

    Polluting coal power stations in Britain have been profiting from the woes of the low-carbon French nuclear industry this month, according to analysis of energy generation data for the Guardian.

    Tricastin, one of France’s biggest nuclear power stations, was closed by the French regulator in September so that works could be undertaken to address a flood risk.

    The plant’s reactors make up four of the 39 currently offline in the French nuclear power industry, which experienced even worse outages last winter due to regulatory safety checks.

    On Friday, power through the interconnector was almost entirely flowing at maximum capacity towards France.

    We are living in an age of such insanity as I would never have believed as little as 10 years ago.

  205. jupes

    [Frydenberg] has already conceded the cost of renewables now he acknowledges their unreliability. Why the fuck do we have them then? Because of alarmism; the idea human emissions of CO2 control the global climate. This wretched, wrong idea has fried whatever synapses politicians have; not because it is right but because of their fear of contradicting it and therefore incurring the wrath of as motley a crew of media scumbags, academics and third rate scientists on the make as you could hope to find stuck to the sewer of society.

    Excellent cohenite.

    Wouldn’t you just love the question to be put to the quisling as forcefully as that.

  206. Rev. Archibald

    For sure having all this bullion up my clacker can be uncomfortable.
    But I sleep sound at night knowing if anyone wants to rob me they have to rape me first.

  207. Mak Siccar

    JC
    #2562485, posted on November 22, 2017 at 6:06 pm
    Mak

    Bitcoin is far too volatile to be used as a currency. It had a huge move last week for instance and that would be unpalatable in real life. Why anyone would want to own that stuff other than to just mess around trading is beyond me.

    There’s also this point. When that crap was trading at around a buck no one was playing except gamers. Now that it’s in the stratosphere I’m receiving junk mail about owning the stuff.

    I am gravely suspicious about crypto $. Best stay clear of stuff you don’t fully understand. Gubberments will, of course, legislate to protect their ‘rights’. Block chain, however, could be a very good thing.

  208. Makka

    Why the fuck do we have them then?

    Probably this;

    [Frydenberg] Because unreliability might effect your standard and cost of living but keeping my snout in the trough relies on you paying for green energy. So, suck it up princess.

  209. Rae

    Tom

    Your dry sense of humour intrigues me. Are you by some chance the compere of ABCTVs Hard Quiz?

  210. BoN;

    We are living in an age of such insanity as I would never have believed as little as 10 years ago.

    The Crazy Years.
    Heinlen was a prophet.
    The site has the entire timeline of his books and makes for interesting reading…

  211. Geriatric Mayfly

    but it would be paradise for raptors few a few weeks.

    F – a – -r – k F – a – r – k what about us crows? We do like eye-ball jelly even if gone a bit Green.

  212. Sydney Boy

    Pumped hydro should be the only battery used to store excess generated power. No mining of toxic metals to produce Teslas needed.

  213. Delta A

    Rae

    #2562662, posted on November 22, 2017 at 8:42 pm

    Tom

    Your dry sense of humour intrigues me. Are you by some chance the compere of ABCTVs Hard Quiz

    Uh oh!

  214. Nick

    Tom
    Your dry sense of humour intrigues me. Are you by some chance the compere of ABCTVs Hard Quiz

    Rae: Sire (Septimus) Dam (Lucie)

  215. Bruce of Newcastle

    Winston – Thanks for that, I really must read John C. Wright’s novels. Have never done before through some oversight. Scary that in the seven years since that essay it has gotten much crazier.

  216. Makka

    The stick insect is at it again;

    “Senior ministers believe a cabinet leak that revealed the Turnbull government considered reversing its opposition to a banking royal commission was designed to damage Malcolm Turnbull, Scott Morrison and Peter Dutton and create chaos in the government.”

  217. egg_

    [Frydenberg] Because unreliability might effect your standard and cost of living but keeping my snout in the trough relies on you paying for green energy.

    We’re too gutless to not sign on to the Paris Agreement, so please swallow this bulldust.

  218. Uh oh

    Rev. Archibald
    #2562659, posted on November 22, 2017 at 8:36 pm
    For sure having all this bullion up my clacker can be uncomfortable.
    But I sleep sound at night knowing if anyone wants to rob me they have to rape me first.

    Yeah, and I suppose you fart gold dust?

  219. Rev. Archibald

    Yeah, and I suppose you fart gold dust?

    ..
    It’s like brilliant rays of rosy sunshine on a golden morning.

  220. DrBeauGan

    There’s a blockchain startup called Oaken Innovations planning to give driverless cars cryptocurrency to pay for tolls and oil changes.

    H/t IEEE Spectrum.

    Can sexbots be far behind?

  221. miltonf

    We’re too gutless to not sign on to the Paris Agreement, so please swallow this bulldust.

    We are part of the trans national global elite and you are irrelevant (except to bankroll us and our pals).

  222. egg_

    The Letdown on Aunty – every out-of-work fat actress in Oz must have got a gig – Play School for fatties?

  223. candy

    The stick insect is at it again;

    Do you think she would try that trick again, Makka? Last time it with the blessing of Malcolm Turnbull and she leaked to Peter Hartcher, Massola, etc. Those dudes are her mates.

    I’m not sure she would be that brazen, to do another PM in with leaks.

  224. Uh oh

    Rev. Archibald
    #2562684, posted on November 22, 2017 at 9:16 pm

    It’s like brilliant rays of rosy sunshine on a golden morning.

    Well I’ve heard of chucking a brown eye but a golden eye really is one for the movies.

  225. egg_

    I’m not sure she would be that brazen, to do another PM in with leaks.

    Perhaps, she leaks like a week-old set of Depends?

  226. .

    JC
    #2562485, posted on November 22, 2017 at 6:06 pm
    Mak

    Bitcoin is far too volatile to be used as a currency. It had a huge move last week for instance and that would be unpalatable in real life. Why anyone would want to own that stuff other than to just mess around trading is beyond me.

    There’s also this point. When that crap was trading at around a buck no one was playing except gamers. Now that it’s in the stratosphere I’m receiving junk mail about owning the stuff.

    LOL JC

    BTC was originally (?) 5.4 US cents in 2009. Now it is 8.25k+ USD.

    That is roughly a 1.9 mn% return p.a. (not proper geometric mean, only linear).

    You can use a card like CoinJar’s swipe and use it like normal currency, just that your bank balance is volatile.

  227. Knuckle Dragger

    To the Australian selectors:

    It would appear that your inspired selection of Sean Marsh for Australia, for the eighth time, has backfired in spectacular fashion. Again.

    On the upside, at least he didn’t have to set foot on the park before he broke. However, in the unlikely event that he does play he is guaranteed of collapsing within the first half hour, so you’ll need another replacement.

    You have been told time and time again. Please get all your shit in one sock. It’s one of the best jobs in the world, so if you don’t want to do it properly any more let me know and I’ll do it.

    Every time you fuck up in this manner, you make baby Jesus cry.

    Villagers – prepare the stocks.

  228. min

    Report out today says pumped hydro will cost another 2 billion for wires and poles to capital cities.

  229. .

    JC the other thing is instant payments denominated in BTC with low fees.

    Even withdrawing a few ten k with mates a few years ago for an offbeat investment carried some hefty withdrawal fees.

  230. Nick

    Villagers – prepare the stocks.

    Tumbrills first, please.

  231. DrBeauGan

    At some point, bitcoin mining will be put on a quantum computer and the costs will drop by a huge amount. We’ll all be rich!!!!

  232. zyconoclast

    Infidel Tiger Airways

    Yeah… you put that on the website, I’ll bet there’s some fine print when it turns out the experience is nothing like it’s made up to be.

    *Serving suggestion

    What you actually get

  233. Top Ender

    The Deep North – more like Victoria every day….

    Queensland Labor has been ­accused of plotting to reintroduce the controversial Safe Schools program, amid revelations it plans to invest in a program to support same-sex-attracted and trans­gender students and tackle homo­phobia in the schoolyard.

    Critics of the contentious program fear it will be rolled out across the public education system, citing a 128-page party platform document that reveals a commitment to a similar scheme.

    The Australian Christian Lobby, which has campaigned ­vigorously against the program during the state election, delivering more than 300,000 flyers to voters, has criticised such a move as “Safe Schools by stealth”.

    According to Queensland Labor’s Putting Queenslanders First document, the party will “invest in professional development, training and ongoing support for school principals, teachers and support staff so that they can support lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, intersex and queer [or] questioning students and create more inclusive and supportive school environments”.

    “This work will seek to reduce discrimination, harassment, abuse and bullying against lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, intersex and queer [or] questioning students, ensuring that they are able to achieve the best educational outcomes and ensuring that all students are able to understand and respect diversity.”

    The wording is not dissimilar to that used by the Safe Schools Coalition Australia to promote its work.

    Link

  234. Bruce of Newcastle

    Alarmists are misanthropes and nuts: Having one fewer child will save 58.6 tonnes of CO2-equivalent per year.

    So…if they take advantage of Dan the Man’s new legislation for themselves they will save 58.6 tonnes of CO2e per year for each and every kid they don’t have, by reason of not being in the land of the living to have sex anymore, AND they’ll no longer emit 58.6 tonnes per year themselves?

    I call that a win-win for Gaia!

    Maybe the CEFC will extend a subsidy to warmies who want to do the right thing for the planet.

  235. Mother Lode

    Did someone say something on the ‘not’ side of ‘divine’ about Margaux?

    Fie on them!

    And picking on St Emilion is almost as bad.

    Nah. If there is anyplace with peasants and pitchforks and boiling oil, it would be Chateauneuf du Pape: the original GSM.

  236. BorisG

    This work will seek to reduce discrimination, harassment, abuse and bullying

    Nothing wrong with the goal.

  237. Marcus Classis

    Alarmists are misanthropes and nuts: Having one fewer child will save 58.6 tonnes of CO2-equivalent per year.

    Cool. So my Gaia-murdering progeny footprint is absolutely awesome.

    Now, setting up a business connecting proglodyte greentard Gaia holy-rollers with the new People’s Democratic Republic of Victoriastan’s AktionT4 eugenics killing program might be real winner.

  238. JC

    I am gravely suspicious about crypto $. Best stay clear of stuff you don’t fully understand. Gubberments will, of course, legislate to protect their ‘rights’. Block chain, however, could be a very good thing.

    Yea, that’s where I am.

  239. John Constantine

    Their yassmynys is the crazy stalker who feels that if only she could change the object of her deranged phantasy fundamentally enough, she could create something worthy of her.

    It is apparently abusive to not want to have anything to do with a crazy woman that keeps screeching irrational orders at you.

    Comrade.

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