Wednesday Forum: November 29, 2017

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  1. C.L.

    Sam Dastyari advises all of you not to talk on the phone.

  2. Slim Cognito

    I feel this won’t stay fresh for long.

  3. Roger

    And another thing: Who was the “back door channel” Billy Bob Shorten used to advise Dastyari of ASIO’s interest in his little Chinese mate?

  4. Diogenes

    Who was the “back door channel” Billy Bob Shorten used to advise Dastyari of ASIO’s interest in his little Chinese mate?

    It may have the clicks and pops on the line .

  5. Rae

    srr has tweeted that everyone is cacking their daks. Is he your friendly poltergeist, Rev?

  6. Bruce of Newcastle

    From the being-a-righty-is-thoughtcrime category:

    Facebook Announces It Will Use A.I. To Scan Your Thoughts “To Enhance User Safety”

    A mere few years ago the idea that artificial intelligence (AI) might be used to analyze and report to law enforcement aberrant human behavior on social media and other online platforms was merely the far out premise of dystopian movies such as Minority Report, but now Facebook proudly brags that it will use AI to “save lives” based on behavior and thought pattern recognition.

    What could go wrong?

    Join you all in Room 101.

  7. JC

    Why should we take this as fact – especially considering the source and published by the Guardian.

    David Wright, a physicist and missile expert at the Union of Concerned Scientists, calculated that on a normal trajectory, rather than a high lofted one, the missile would have a range of 13,000 km, enough to reach Washington, the rest of the US west coast, Europe or Australia.

    Furthermore, the mobile night launch appeared aimed at testing new capabilities and demonstrating that Pyongyang would be able to strike back after any attempt at a preventative strike against the regime.

    “It went higher, frankly, than any previous shot they’ve taken,” James Mattis, the US defence secretary, told reporters. “It’s a research and development effort on their part to continue building ballistic missiles that can threaten anywhere in the world.”

  8. C.L.

    Excuse me?

    Harry’s bride to-be will apply for British citizenship and also be baptized before they marry at Windsor Castle.

    Divorcee Meghan, a protestant who went to a Catholic high school, will be baptised and confirmed before the spring ceremony to comply with the royal family’s beliefs that they should all join the Church of England.

    It is not theologically possible to baptise an already baptised Christian.

  9. Leigh Lowe

    C.L.

    #2569642, posted on November 29, 2017 at 11:00 am

    I think the entire nation just wants Jimmy Barnes to go away.
    Back to Scotland, preferably.

    I take it you’re not a massive fan of Barnesy?

  10. JC

    I take it you’re not a massive fan of Barnesy?

    I’m not sure you can form this impression he doesn’t like the screaming little choker. 🙂

  11. notafan

    Something big is happening

    Or not

  12. Megan

    Under the wire for Top Twenny! I’m happy.

  13. Mother Lode

    And another thing: Who was the “back door channel” Billy Bob Shorten used to advise Dastyari of ASIO’s interest in his little Chinese mate?

    Don’t know.

    But soon they will be allowed to marry.

  14. notafan

    Divorcee Meghan, a protestant who went to a catholic high school, will be baptised and confirmed before the spring ceremony to comply with the royal family’s beliefs that they should all join the Church of England.

    I’d be guessing that she never was, family probably notional protestants, or the formula used was irregular

    Better safe than sorry.

  15. Infidel Tiger

    Cold Chisel sucked arse when barnesy was up front.

    The bloke has butchered more songs than a drunk Korean in a karaoke lounge at 4am.

    Only in australia could a turd like him be regarded as a singer.

  16. Geriatric Mayfly

    In stage one of the new program, no batter gets out — a move purists might argue is just not cricket.

    Wasn’t that half the fun of it, the impassioned arguments, and delays in play given to yelling out “the rules of the day?” Those very iffy calls often called for the judgement of Solomon, but the kids would sort it and emerge much better for the compromises.

  17. Mother Lode

    Well, I suppose it was your FIRST!!! Gab.

    And as we know, every kid gets a prize.

    I am just unsure, with these new Kids Cricket rules, how a kid gets in if others don’t get out?

    My first thought was that everyone gets an over or two at bat, but that still seems not quite in the clusterfucking spirit of the age.

    Perhaps every kid goes out with a cricket bat and stands in the shade at the end of the oval and waits.

    Boring and interminable – but such it is for all the kids. Sameness! Mission accomplished!

  18. notafan

    Scientists have privately told me that the amount of co2 that Bali volcano has spewed in last 3 days is equivalent to 300 yrs on man made co2.

    If only we could stop those darn volcanoes, climate scientists put on your thinking caps!

  19. Geriatric Mayfly

    It is not theologically possible to baptise an already baptised Christian.

    Looks like a river Jordan job to me.

  20. Roger

    It is not theologically possible to baptise an already baptised Christian.

    One must assume that she is not validly baptised and the journalist’s description of her as “Protestant” is rather loose. The AofC will at least have done his homework on this.

  21. stackja

    C.L.
    #2569672, posted on November 29, 2017 at 11:19 am

    No CoE in USA.?

  22. JC

    The Australian Stock market is shit. Just shit.

  23. P

    It is not theologically possible to baptise an already baptised Christian.

    I do not know. I only know that I have a ‘Certificate of Baptism’ from a Catholic Church in my name
    and it is marked:
    ‘conditionally Baptised’ at … Church, Parish of …” Maybe it’s changed since just over 50 yrs ago.

  24. Rae

    It is not theologically possible to baptise an already baptised Christian.

    Is Meghan Markle already baptized?

  25. Snoopy

    Schoolies stranded in Bali don’t have parents or family. Apparently.

    Thousands of Australians, including schoolies who headed to Bali after finishing their final exams, have been caught on the island since Sunday. They are now concerned about running out of money for food and accommodation as they wait to find out how and when they will get home.

    How long before Turnbull heroically rides to the rescue dispensing a flood of taxpayers’ cash?

  26. Joe

    Schoolies stranded in Bali don’t have parents or family. Apparently.

    I wish to seem extremely callous and say; leave them there.
    Any child travelling without a parent should only be doing so from family to family. Unaccompanied children should be denied access to a country, unless they are travelling to meet up with family, or transiting to another destination.

    Next up, I want child services to audit the parents of these “children” for dereliction of duty.

  27. H B Bear

    Excellent life lesson right there for those schoolies. Bali is shit.

  28. Bruce of Newcastle

    It is not theologically possible to baptise an already baptised Christian.

    CL – Actually it is if the original baptism wasn’t up to speed. The citation is second baptism of John’s disciples. This happened to me for reasons I won’t go into, and required quite a lot of deep reading and consideration of the bible, the nature of baptism and the words of Jesus.

    I can’t speak for catholic church position, but it’s the protestant doctrine in play here.

  29. notafan

    Any doubts then redunk

    I know some conservative Episcopalians were upset that a female bishop in Utah was not rebaptised when she converted from Mormonism to Episcopalian, Mormon baptisms having been declared invalid by the Church.

    Even some mainstream churches have been known to have invalid baptisms because some baby boom hippy thought they could mess with the formula


    lists of valid, doubtful and invalid

  30. Roger

    No CoE in USA.?

    It’s known as the Episcopalian Church in the US; historically strong in the eastern and south-eastern states (many Presidents, including Washington, have been Episcopalian) but now so liberal as to hardly be entitled to the name ‘Christian’ at all.

  31. Mother Lode

    And because it cannot be said enough:

    Fuck off, Septimus.

  32. notafan

    CL – Actually it is if the original baptism wasn’t up to speed.

    CL is right

    If the first baptism ‘isn’t up to speed’ then the person haven’t been baptised.

  33. Geriatric Mayfly

    The oppression of Dreadful Heat. Used to revel in it once, and no summer day could be frittered away because of likely enervation. The warnings for a certain demographic used to amuse me. Has global warming made our summers more taxing, or have I grown older? Shall continue to ponder.

  34. Snoopy

    Perpetrators of unknown ethnicity cont.

    Norwegian police are conducting an investigation into more than 150 cases of alleged sexual abuse in the small rural community of Tysfjord in the country’s north.

    About 92 of the village’s 2000 residents stand accused of offences involving 40 children, the youngest just four years old, authorities said on Tuesday.

    One of the suspects allegedly justified the abuse by saying he was a shaman.

  35. stackja

    Roger
    #2569715, posted on November 29, 2017 at 11:45 am
    No CoE in USA.?

    It’s known as the Episcopalian Church in the US; historically strong in the eastern and south-eastern states (many Presidents, including Washington, have been Episcopalian) but now so liberal as to hardly be entitled to the name ‘Christian’ at all.

    Yes. Colonists broke with all things British. And Mr Webster liked s and not c spelling

  36. Joe

    JC:

    The Australian Stock market is shit. Just shit.

    Just what about it is shit?
    Tell us all. It appears to be up today.

  37. Slim Cognito

    If only we could stop those darn volcanoes, climate scientists put on your thinking caps!

    Simple. Everyone knows you can control such things with a new tax. Any eruption will therefore be the government’s fault.

  38. Mother Lode

    Does the Episcopalian Church recognise the British Sovereign as its head? That could be the sticking point if joining the Family Business.

    Is there something particular in the CoE rite (or, at least, the higher CoE) that refers to recognising that?

  39. Stimpson J. Cat

    It is not theologically possible to baptise an already baptised Christian.

    Rules for Reptilians.

  40. Roger

    Actually it is if the original baptism wasn’t up to speed.

    If the original baptism wasn’t up to speed then it wasn’t a baptism, period.

    Otoh, anyone validly baptised cannot legitimately be “rebaptised” (conditional baptisms take place where there is valid concern as to the form (words) or matter (water) used in the original baptism).

    This is orthodox Christian doctrine shared by everyone except Baptists, Pentecostals and anti-paedobaptist sects.

    The Bible is clear: One Lord, one Faith, one Baptism (Eph 4:5). To question the efficacy of a properly performed baptism is to question God.

  41. stackja

    Geriatric Mayfly
    #2569718, posted on November 29, 2017 at 11:46 am

    Cloncurry, Queensland – Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloncurry,_Queensland
    Cloncurry was widely regarded as holding the record for the highest temperature recorded in Australia at 53.1 °C (127.5 °F) on 16 January 1889. Recent investigations have revealed that this temperature was measured in an improvised screen made from a beer crate and that it equated to 47–49 °C under standard conditions.

  42. P

    I was baptised as an infant in the Anglican church (known then as Church of England),
    then as a 14yr old I was baptised in a Church of Christ church.
    Ten years later I was conditionally baptised in a Catholic church.

    I do not consider that my two earlier baptisms were in any way lacking.

  43. stackja

    Mother Lode
    #2569725, posted on November 29, 2017 at 11:50 am
    Does the Episcopalian Church recognise the British Sovereign as its head? That could be the sticking point if joining the Family Business.

    Is there something particular in the CoE rite (or, at least, the higher CoE) that refers to recognising that?

    This looks right.

    No she definitely isn’t. In fact Anglicans generally don’t like to refer to anyone except Christ as head of the church. Anyway, she is Supreme Governor of the Church of England. The Church of England and the Episcopal Church in the US are independent autonomous churches which are in communion with each other as members of the Anglican Communion. The Queen has no role in the Episcopal Church; she is just a fellow Christian and a fellow Anglican.

  44. Mother Lode

    Cloncurry?

    I never made it as far as the Curry.

    Been to Barcy, but.

    Good bacon and egg rolls at Yeast Meets West.

  45. Stimpson J. Cat

    They are now concerned about running out of money for food and accommodation as they wait to find out how and when they will get home.

    Stuck in an apocalyptic landscape surrounded by Ethnics with no money.

  46. Roger

    Does the Episcopalian Church recognise the British Sovereign as its head?

    No; neither does the Anglican Church of Australia, for that matter. The English monarch is only head of the territorial Church of England; that arrangement pertains solely to the polity of England and really has no religious significance. If Markle was validly baptised in the Episcopalian Church she would not need to be “rebaptised” to become a member of the Church of England.

  47. Mother Lode

    Anyway, she is Supreme Governor of the Church of England.

    Doh!

    I remember now. Henry took the title ‘Supreme Head’, and a later monarch toned it down to ‘Supreme Governor’.

  48. notafan

    I do not consider that my two earlier baptisms were in any way lacking.

    Then why have the second one?

    You are the adult that consented to a ‘conditional baptism’ in case the prior two were invalid

    Why did you get rebaptised at the age of 14?

    If you actually knew what baptism was you would not make such an asinine comment about your two earlier baptisms.

  49. notafan

    The Bible is clear: One Lord, one Faith, one Baptism (Eph 4:5). To question the efficacy of a properly performed baptism is to question God.

    exactly Roger

    I seem to recall reading that after the ‘reformation’ there was a great deal of rebaptising as people went back and forth between various sects

  50. stackja

    My parents arranged my baptism. No one so far has questioned it.

  51. Des Deskperson

    ‘Thousands of Australians, including schoolies who headed to Bali after finishing their final exams, have been caught on the island since Sunday. They are now concerned about running out of money for food and accommodation as they wait to find out how and when they will get home.’

    Err, there is an Australian Consulate-General in Bali:

    http://bali.indonesia.embassy.gov.au/blli/consular.html

    whose role as I understand it, includes providing appropriate assistance to Australian citizens in time of natural disaster. I’m sure it could help with money if things got desperate .

  52. Diogenes

    Even some mainstream churches have been known to have invalid baptisms because some baby boom hippy thought they could mess with the formula

    There was a huge controversy that took up much time at the court of Charlemagne at the time (@ 700AD) whether or not the formula “in nomine patria et fillia” (in the name of the country and the daughter) used by priests with poor latin was valid. Vergilius thought so, St Boniface thought otherwise & the then Pope Zachary said these were valid.

  53. Leigh Lowe

    What happens if Miss Markle hasn’t properly renounced her previous baptism?

  54. Mother Lode

    I think the reason the British Monarch had to relinquish the title ‘Supreme Head’ was because in the language of our Reptilian overlords it is more exalted than the title of Lizard office.

    “Scheessswee ssreeeesgh” as opposed to “Scheessswee ssreeeargh”.

    You can see the difference right there.

  55. Mother Lode

    Then why have the second one?

    Best out of three?

  56. stackja

    Des Deskperson
    #2569744, posted on November 29, 2017 at 12:03 pm

    What we cannot do
    There are a range of tasks which are outside the consular role or which we do not provide for policy reasons. These include:
    guarantee your safety and security in another country or make your travel arrangements…

  57. Mother Lode

    My parents arranged my baptism.

    An arranged baptism?

    But…Love is Love.

    (N.B. Luv is a dogfood. Don’t be fooled by imitations.)

  58. Joe

    “in nomine patria et fillia”

    nomine: name
    patria/patris: father
    filia/filiis: son
    or is this incorrect?

  59. notafan

    “Scheessswee ssreeeesgh” as opposed to “Scheessswee ssreeeargh”.

    Psst be careful ML, ires might irked.

    The Cat has it’s very own ‘agency’ monitoring our very public chatter and translating it into Higher Reptilian, and as usual the translations, while nonsensical to the human brain, are considered to demonstrate that there is something big about to happen and that we are very very bad.

  60. Mother Lode

    What happens if Miss Markle hasn’t properly renounced her previous baptism?

    Hercule Koirot will be on the case of ‘Mis-Orthography Most Foul’.

  61. C.L.

    Pervert Daniel Andrews just got his Kill Old People Bill passed.

  62. Rev. Archibald

    Pope Zachary

    ..
    Think I taught a kid called Pope, Zachary.

  63. stackja

    Mother Lode
    #2569752, posted on November 29, 2017 at 12:10 pm
    My parents arranged my baptism.

    An arranged baptism?

    But…Love is Love.

    (N.B. Luv is a dogfood. Don’t be fooled by imitations.)

    I don’t know about these arrangements. When you are young others make arrangements.

  64. Tom

    Already suffering relevance deprivation, well-known typing error and feminazi former “football writer” Caroline Wislon has now joined the misandrist pile-on against Don Burke, who, she boasts, once wanted to lick her back when she was pregnant (Nurse! Please summon Dr Freud!) … and some young footballer who once (gasp!) showed her a packet of condoms — revealed this morning on Fakefacts Radio, one of the casting couches for a career at Their ABC.

  65. stackja

    Flightradar24‏Verified account
    @flightradar24
    4 hours ago
    Denpasar Airport will remain closed for a further 24 hours, until 29 Nov at 2300 UTC (est). #MtAgung

  66. Roger

    I seem to recall reading that after the ‘reformation’ there was a great deal of rebaptising as people went back and forth between various sects

    The Anabaptists (lit. “again baptisers”) rejected infant baptism and “rebaptised” Catholics, Lutherans and Reformed on the Continent. The English Baptists, Church of Christ, etc., are theologically related to them but not historically derived from them.

    The Anabaptist movement is also known as the Radical Reformation, whereby historians distinguish it from the Magisterial Reformation(s) (Anglican, Lutheran & Reformed, led by the “magistracy”: the king of a nation, prince of a territory or city council) and of course the Catholic Counter-Reformation.

  67. Bruce of Newcastle

    If the original baptism wasn’t up to speed then it wasn’t a baptism, period.

    Roger and Notafan – that is where the consideration of the bible and Jesus’ teaching is the Solomonic decider, as it were: you have to first determine that the original baptism was doubtful or invalid. I can personally attest that that is not so easy a thing to do as it looks on the surface. And made even more difficult when different denominations might think their own baptism is valid and another’s isn’t. So you have to then work out whether the initial baptism was not valid and the new baptism is valid…

  68. C.L.

    Last night some bird working with Tracey Spicer – the sacked anchorwoman who has been on the world’s longest-ever hysterical jihad ever since – was interviewed on The Project about their “investigation” into naughty men, assuring Waleed (whose wife wears a veil in public) that more names would soon be revealed when they had “dotted every i and crossed every t.”

    Now, who appointed these people directors of public prosecution?

    And second, if saying vulgar and sexually explicit things in public is now verboten, shouldn’t Mrs Spicer apologise for “an incredibly candid speech” about masturbating with a hair brush, jerking off a boyfriend, trying to pleasure a lesbian, stealing a friend’s medication and taking drugs?

  69. C.L.

    Last night some bird working with Tracey Spicer – the sacked anchorwoman who has been on the world’s longest-ever hysterical jihad ever since – was interviewed on The Project about their “investigation” into naughty men, assuring Waleed (whose wife wears a veil in public) that more names would soon be revealed when they had “dotted every i and crossed every t.”

    Now, who appointed these people directors of public prosecution?

    And second, if saying vulgar and sexua11y explicit things in public is now verboten, shouldn’t Mrs Spicer apologise for “an incredibly candid speech” about masturbat1ng with a hair brush, jerking off a boyfriend, trying to pleasure a lesb1an, stealing a friend’s medication and taking drugs?

    And shouldn’t the ABC apologise to all present at their event?

  70. John Comnenus

    Sam Dastayari is a piece of work. But, because he is a Lefty nothing will happen to him.

  71. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    I was baptised as an infant in the Anglican church (known then as Church of England),
    then as a 14yr old I was baptised in a Church of Christ church.
    Ten years later I was conditionally baptised in a Catholic church.

    I do not consider that my two earlier baptisms were in any way lacking.

    That’s a lot of Baptising. Couldn’t your parents afford swimming lessons?

  72. Zatara

    I find it hilarious that the head of countries who approve of SSM can puritanically insist on the baptism of a prospective bride into their pet church.

  73. notafan

    Roger I was referring to a regular to and froing of baptism after baptism after baptism in Germany iirc

    I am sure Anabaptists were in the mix

  74. Motelier

    FIRST!!!!!

    Sooty, but I am FIRST!!!!!

  75. stackja

    Zatara
    #2569773, posted on November 29, 2017 at 12:32 pm

    May be.

  76. C.L.

    Here’s something else Spicer said in her ABC speech:

    “They say lust is born of an unmet need for God,” she begins, in her newsreader’s plummy voice.

    “But I’ve always found it to be an unmet need for c0ck.”

    If it’s OK for Spicer to talk about cocks, masturbat1on, hand-jobs and cunn1l1ngus at the ABC, why is she – using resources of the ABC – pursuing Don Burke?

  77. Baldrick

    Mother Lode
    #2569716, posted on November 29, 2017 at 11:46 am
    And because it cannot be said enough:
    Fuck off, Septimus.

    Thanks Mother Lode for filling in during my absence.
    Fuck off GrigoRae 😉

  78. Baldrick

    Pervert Daniel Andrews just got his Kill Old People Bill passed.

    And pervert George Brandis will get his Homo-hoedown Bill passed this afternoon, before heading to the lower house next week.
    What a country.

  79. “They say lust is born of an unmet need for God,” she begins, in her newsreader’s plummy voice.

    “But I’ve always found it to be an unmet need for c0ck.”

    Obviously referencing Augustine but she misses his point entirely.

  80. CL;

    Now, who appointed these people directors of public prosecution?

    No one. What we are seeing here is the formation of another State paralleling the formal one, across the Western World.
    They now have their own ‘justice’ system and are making inroads into all of the Wests institutions.
    What we are seeing is the overturning of centuries of social order with hearsay being equivalent to evidence.
    The Feminists are proving, in a most hysterical fashion, that they can destroy any male and his career with no solid facts, just gossip.
    No non Feminist woman will dare stand against the Feminazi Mob.

  81. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Was interesting to read that Burke’s Backyard was axed by 9 because it’s ratings had dropped to just over a million viewers on Friday night.

    Barely any TV is capable of pulling those ratings in prime time these days.

  82. JC

    If it’s OK for Spicer to talk about cocks, masturbat1on, hand-jobs and cunn1l1ngus at the ABC, why is she – using resources of the ABC – pursuing Don Burke?

    Count in the minority but I kinda like dirty talk by Sheilas. I’ve always wondered if the hairbrush Spicer used to pleasure herself was hard or soft bristles. Hard bristles would leave a mark, no?

    Anyone know?

  83. notafan

    Has Burke done anything for which there should be legal consequences?

    Other than saying hooroo, which should have been punished with banishment.

  84. Feminism has goaded Spicer into madness.

  85. H B Bear

    Already suffering relevance deprivation, well-known typing error and feminazi former “football writer” Caroline Wislon has now joined the misandrist pile-on against Don Burke …

    Caro certainly has a head for radio. See also: dropped pie.

  86. Anyone know?

    I would have assumed she used the handle, JC, but perhaps I’ve led a sheltered life.

  87. Rev. Archibald

    Was watching doco on atomic bomb.
    Soviets had two spies in Manhattan Project we know of.
    Fuchs and some other dude.
    Thinking: if the Soviets had so infiltrated the West already eighty years ago they had guys in place who just happened to be asked to join the project, how many sympathisers had they in total?

  88. JC

    ‪@TraceySpicer Hi Trace. Not trying to sound coarse or anything, but recent events go me wondering. U once publicly stated u use a hairbrush for pleasuring. Was it a hard or soft bristle type.‬
    ‪Thanks.‬

  89. Des Deskperson

    “There are a range of tasks which are outside the consular role or which we do not provide for policy reasons. These include:
    guarantee your safety and security in another country or make your travel arrangements…”

    True, Stackja, but the Consulate could advance the little darlings an emergency loan to cover food and shelter while they await flights out of Bali. This seems to be their immediate problem. From Smarttraveller:

    “In exceptional situations, the nearest Australian embassy, high commission or consulate may be able to provide a small emergency loan. However, you may be required to surrender your passport after you return to Australia, and you may not be issued with a replacement until the debt is repaid.”

  90. Geriatric Mayfly

    Never quite sure whether to endorse the Government stepping in to financially assist people marooned overseas, or spend other monies hauling them out. However, Mt Agung’s behaviour was unpredictable and its ash cloud could have drifted to any other point in the compass, away from the airport. Not so sympathetic to those ‘Australian’ Lebs who were flown back here to escape the debildebil Israelis, some of whom were living in those parts on Australian pensions. Thirty million, I think it cost and the Govt, rather meekly asked those given flights to pay their share back. LOL.

  91. JC

    ‪@TraceySpicer oh forgot, u also said this. “But I’ve always found it to be an unmet need for cock.” Could u add a little colour to that comment .. shape, size etc.‬
    ‪Thanks‬

  92. Rev. Archibald

    In January 1950, Fuchs confessed that he was a spy. He was sentenced to fourteen years’ imprisonment and stripped of his British citizenship. He was released in 1959, after serving nine years, and emigrated to the German Democratic Republic (East Germany), where he was elected to the Academy of Sciences and the Socialist Unity Party of Germany (SED) central committee. He was later appointed deputy director of the Institute for Nuclear Research in Rossendorf, where he served until he retired in 1979.

    ..
    I would think they would hang the prick, rather than a slap on the wrist then handed over to help the commies further.
    Seems we have a long history of tolerating treachery.
    No wonder the cutrent crop think it is no big deal.

  93. Mater

    True, Stackja, but the Consulate could advance the little darlings an emergency loan to cover food and shelter while they await flights out of Bali.

    They can add that to their HECS debt. Ie. On the never-never.

  94. stackja

    Des Deskperson
    #2569811, posted on November 29, 2017 at 1:05 pm
    However, you may be required to surrender your passport after you return to Australia, and you may not be issued with a replacement until the debt is repaid.”

    Welfare recipients too?

  95. Geriatric Mayfly

    Was it a hard or soft bristle type.‬

    In keeping with the world of felines, I would say hard. Mating cats sounds like modern opera. One reason being, the male organ has spines attached which causes the female some distress, but ensures that the job gets done.

  96. Tom

    Up to five inches of rain on the way for southern Vicco this week, according to the Gaia worshippers at Their BOM — which obviously means none or a 20-inch biblical deluge, their BOM having a 100% wrongological track record for weekly or 100-year forecasts.

  97. stackja

    Rev. Archibald
    #2569818, posted on November 29, 2017 at 1:11 pm

    KGB in Canberra.

  98. JC

    Mayfly

    I’m now not sure about any bristle type. Some wag above suggested she may have used the handle.

    Who knows, right. We need Trace to tell us.
    Very curious.

  99. max

    FMD, just caught a snatch of Magda at the Press Club.

    The nobility. The self righteousness. The suffering. The compassion.

    All followed by snark, bile, sniping and disdain for those who urged a No vote.

    Insisting that ‘it’s normal’ begs the question.

    It will never stop. They can never be content.

  100. C.L.

    I apologise to turds for all of those unfair comparisons to Daniel Andrews:

    Premier Daniel Andrews, who came to support euthanasia after the death of his father last year, paid tribute to colleagues, including Health Minister Jill Hennessy, for their work on the bill.

    “I’m proud today that we have put compassion right at the centre of our parliamentary and our political process,” he said.

    “That is politics at its best and it’s Victoria doing what it does best — leading our nation.”

    Victoria becomes the first Australian state to legalise voluntary assisted dying.

  101. C.L.

    snatch of Magda

    Please, hey.

  102. zyconoclast

    It is not theologically possible to baptise an already baptised Christian.

    Born again?

  103. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    FMD, just caught a snatch of Magda at the Press Club.

    As deeply unhappy as Magda is, one can only imagine the suffering of her partner.

  104. zyconoclast

    Divorcee Meghan, a protestant who went to a catholic high school, will be baptised and confirmed before the spring ceremony to comply with the royal family’s beliefs that they should all join the Church of England.

    Looks like the Royals are taking care of their version of Section 44(i)

  105. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Not so sympathetic to those ‘Australian’ Lebs who were flown back here to escape the debildebil Israelis, some of whom were living in those parts on Australian pensions. Thirty million, I think it cost and the Govt, rather meekly asked those given flights to pay their share back. LOL.

    Eyewitness reports said “Lebanese” were most upset at being asked to pay their share back, and there were some fairly monumental hissy fits at being told there was a baggage allowance, and four suitcases were considered excessive.

  106. Mother Lode

    snatch of Magda

    Is that like ‘eye of newt’? Or ‘ear of toad’?

  107. zyconoclast

    They are now concerned about running out of money for food and accommodation as they wait to find out how and when they will get home.

    Stuck in an apocalyptic landscape surrounded by Ethnics with no money.

    They can youtube episodes of Bear Grylls and Man Versus Wild.
    Or do what the Venezuelans are doing in Colombia.

  108. dopey

    Senate passes bill. Men are hugging men . Women are hugging women.

  109. P

    I have never been asked by anyone to renounce my previous baptism/s.

    Certainly the Catholic priest who conditionally baptised me did not ask this of me.
    I had for the previous year received weekly instruction in the Catholic faith from this priest.

    Australia was still considered by Rome at that time to be a Mission country. I don’t know if that had any bearing on why I did not have to formally disown my other baptisms.
    N.B. In 1976 Rome officially declared that Australia was no longer a mission country.

  110. zyconoclast

    Was it a hard or soft bristle type.‬

    Beaver bristle.

  111. Geriatric Mayfly

    Diogenes
    #2569832, posted on November 29, 2017 at 1:18 pm
    JC
    [youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRZIII6qvbA&w=854&h=480%5D

    Thanks for the clip and the memories. Used to watch it religiously in the late sixties when living in London.
    ‘Your are awful, but I like you’ -Pow! seldom failed to amuse.

  112. notafan

    GM

    I had no idea about the barbs, does explain the extreme caterwauling though.

    I do recall a former colleague telling a story about her male cat returning home one night somewhat worse for wear, a visit to the vet discovered the reason. another male cat appendage was stuck where it should not have been, sans the owner.

    Makes more sense now how that might have happened.

  113. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Was watching doco on atomic bomb.
    Soviets had two spies in Manhattan Project we know of.
    Fuchs and some other dude.

    Klaus Fuchs, Theodore Hall, Harry Gold, David Greenglass, Alan Nunn May, Morton Sobell – was there anyone in the Manhattan Project who wasn’t a Soviet spy?

  114. zyconoclast

    Not so sympathetic to those ‘Australian’ Lebs who were flown back here to escape the debildebil Israelis, some of whom were living in those parts on Australian pensions. Thirty million, I think it cost and the Govt, rather meekly asked those given flights to pay their share back. LOL.

    Eyewitness reports said “Lebanese” were most upset at being asked to pay their share back, and there were some fairly monumental hissy fits at being told there was a baggage allowance, and four suitcases were considered excessive.

    I remember some were very upset that they could not keep the frequent flyer points for the rescue flight.

  115. Dr Faustus

    Senate passes bill. Men are hugging men . Women are hugging women.

    Congratulations Brandis, on Turnbull’s ‘signature achievement’.
    So, nothing else to do to Australia until February?

  116. Mother Lode

    Schoolies caught in Bali.

    Years of critical gender theory and learning that a Mr Sheen ad is on the same literary level as Wuthering Heights would surely have prepared them to deal with new situations.

    When the stall owner calls a policeman over because they can’t pay for their food, they can respond by pondering how a universal patriarchic paradigm has divorced the stall owner and policeman from their authentic humanity, recombining them into unnatural juxtapositions bound to result in perverse outcomes.

    And how that truncheon really hurts.

  117. notafan

    Eyewitness reports said “Lebanese” were most upset at being asked to pay their share back, and there were some fairly monumental hissy fits at being told there was a baggage allowance, and four suitcases were considered excessive.

    Former foreign minister Alexander Downer wrote earlier this year that many of the evacuees had been grateful, but others had complained about the quality of the boats or wanted compensation for sea sickness.


    Tourists warned help has its limits

  118. C.L.

    No P, it had nothing to do with Australia being a mission country.
    Canon Law forbids re-baptism:

    1272. Incorporated into Christ by Baptism, the person baptized is configured to Christ. Baptism seals the Christian with the indelible spiritual mark (character) of his belonging to Christ. No sin can erase this mark, even if sin prevents Baptism from bearing the fruits of salvation. Given once for all, Baptism cannot be repeated.

  119. hzhousewife

    I do recall a former colleague telling a story about her male cat returning home one night somewhat worse for wear, a visit to the vet discovered the reason. another male cat appendage was stuck where it should not have been, sans the owner.

    The things you learn on the cat !!!!!!!! (shouldn’t be, but I’m pmsl)

  120. JC

    Thanks for the clip and the memories. Used to watch it religiously in the late sixties when living in London.
    ‘Your are awful, but I like you’ -Pow! seldom failed to amuse.

    It all depends on who it is with sheilas. We were watching a movie with Jack Nicholas a few nights ago. I asked wifey …testing her… what she thought of Jack. She claimed to find him both disgusting and loveable at the same time. Go figure.
    That’s the problem with all these accusations and sheilas making them. Just best to ignore unless there are serious accusations of sexual assault. Otherwise most of it is bullshit.

  121. Stimpson J. Cat

    Oh my God.
    I finally had a look at this Jordan Peterson character everyone goes on about.
    He is literally selling a f$cking Personality Test online!

    Scientologist Book Merchant Confirmed!!!

    What a f$cking joke.

  122. herodotus

    Dean Smith on the passing of his SSM bill in the Senate:
    “The lack of substantive amendments indicates we got the balance correct. ”

    If only we could get a well-balanced Senate. Getting something through the current rabble is anything but an indication of quality.

  123. A Lurker

    Senate passes bill. Men are hugging men . Women are hugging women.

    Freedom and liberty takes another kick to the guts in Australia.

  124. JC

    Jack Nicholson … not the golfer .

  125. zyconoclast

    From the ABC World Today.
    The audio is 4:30 but you only have to listen from 0:30 – 1:30 to listen to Jenifer who has started 4 degrees in 4 years since leaving school.

    New data reignites stoush of university reforms

  126. H B Bear

    Dean Smith on the passing of his SSM bill in the Senate:
    “The lack of substantive amendments indicates we got the balance correct. ”

    Well I guess that makes sense if you are a member of the current Lieboral Party and the bill passes with the support of the Liars and Greenfilth.

  127. Stimpson J. Cat

    Senate passes bill. Men are hugging men . Women are hugging women.

    Start running Snoopy.
    Run like the wind.

  128. harrys on the boat

    Isn’t the issue with Harry’s mrs, that her previous marriage was a Jewish ceremony and she had to convert?

  129. zyconoclast

    Australians spend $555 million on useless qualifications: study

    Australians paid $555 million in tuition fees last year for qualifications they didn’t need or couldn’t use in their current circumstance, according to a recent study.

    The report, Right Skills Right Time, says the total cost to Australians of over-qualification is $4 billion a year.

    It was prepared for SkillsIQ, a body that writes the national occupational standards for training in services industries like community health, and local government.

    CEO Yasmin King said the report only focussed on the “people-facing” roles her company works with, but that those jobs do represent 50 percent of the economy.

  130. Dr Faustus

    Liberal senator Dean Smith, who authored the bill, told his Senate colleagues before the vote that while it had been a difficult journey to get to this point, the debate over the bill had been “good for the soul” of all Australians.

    “This debate has been good for the soul of the country.

    “It has been good for the soul of this chamber and it will be good for the souls of LGBTI children throughout our great country.”

    What would really be good would be for you fuckers to spend some time addressing the actual problems of our great country, rather than pleasuring yourselves in public.
    I can give you a ‘to do’ list if you like.

  131. Diogenes

    “The lack of substantive amendments indicates

    I have sworn never even consider a vote for the Lieborals at any level of government while Turdbull is leader.
    This is now extended to while ever Wilson, Brandis and Smith are still in parliament.

  132. harrys on the boat

    Isn’t the issue with Harry’s mrs, that her previous marriage was a Jooish ceremony and she had to convert?

    (fucking moderation for jooish……..)

  133. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    So she’s a Protestant who attended Catholic School who married a Joo?

  134. Stimpson J. Cat

    It will be very interesting to see which Libertarians come out of the closet and marry now they are finally free.

    Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

    Being Gay I mean.

  135. Rae

    I do recall a former colleague telling a story about her male cat returning home one night somewhat worse for wear, a visit to the vet discovered the reason. another male cat appendage was stuck where it should not have been, sans the owner.

    Your former colleague was indeed telling you a story.

  136. zyconoclast

    Less open, less tolerant and more nervous, but Australia remains upbeat about immigration

    Infographic

    Interesting stat: Australians who feel negatively about Muslims are 25% when asked over the phone, but 41% when completing an online survey.

    Too bad that they think online surveys are anonymous.

  137. Habib

    Watched assorted pompous windbags snorking on in the senate, celebrating the further expansion of government. I’m continually astounded how dickheads in this once mediocre nation continually demand their rights be further eroded.

    I’m offering any odds on a Moslem Baker/florist/etc being targeted by militant perverts.

  138. stackja

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2569887, posted on November 29, 2017 at 2:01 pm
    It will be very interesting to see which Libertarians come out of the closet and marry now they are finally free.

    Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

    Being Gay I mean.

    Happy days are here again? So aid FDR!

  139. A Lurker

    I have sworn never even consider a vote for the Lieborals at any level of government while Turdbull is leader.
    This is now extended to while ever Wilson, Brandis and Smith are still in parliament.

    Ditto

  140. Rabz

    I have sworn never even consider a vote for the Lieborals at any level of government while Turdbull is leader. This is now extended to while ever Wilson, Brandis and Smith are still in parliament.

    The malaise is much greater than the presence of those idiots. The gliberal party is a hollowed out husk.

  141. Habib

    And the UN is going to investigate our inherent racism. Hope they don’t send any darkies.

  142. zyconoclast

    I’m calling bullsh!t

    New electricity trading interval to cut power prices

    At present electricity generators sell into the market every half hour under the so called “30-minute interval” system. Under the new regime, which will take effect in 2021, that interval will be cut to 5 minutes.

    The AEMC argues a shorter period will improve transparency and allow more power to be made available to the grid at peak times.

  143. P

    No P, it had nothing to do with Australia being a mission country.
    Canon Law forbids re-baptism:

    Thank you C.L.

    I wonder how a convert to the Catholic faith would receive other sacraments such as marriage and confirmation.
    I can only tell you how I remember it was for me back in the mid 60s.

  144. H B Bear

    I imagine Graegooglery would have pleasured a few cats in his time.

  145. Geriatric Mayfly

    Brandis giving a run down on the activities of the Persian Dwarf in answer to a Dorothy Dixer. Commo Carr, and Commo Cameron going off their cruets, yelling and screaming.

  146. Dr Faustus

    The report, Right Skills Right Time, says the total cost to Australians of over-qualification is $4 billion a year.

    University students taking longer to finish degrees, many fail to find work quickly: reports

    The Federal Government has released new data that reveals only two-thirds of students are completing their degrees within six years.

    Only 71 per cent of graduates secure a job straight out of uni. Fifteen per cent are still unemployed four years after graduating.

    Apparently this is situation normal:

    But Universities Australia said the figures on graduates gaining full-time jobs after university are at a three-year high.

    It said the decline in students completing university within six years has only dropped 1 per cent, and the rate of students completing their degrees within nine years is stable.

    Coding. We need more coding and apps.

  147. Mother Lode

    Run like the wind.

    Wind blows.*

    Water runs.

    So do noses.

    *(Well, I don’t like it much.)

  148. notafan

    Twitter quote

    The moderate sharia uniform for girls at the moderate sharia and jihad school, Al-Taqwa College, attended by alleged jihadi, Ali Khalif Shire Ali.

    As expected.

    The college changed name and location but not uniform or principle

  149. P

    Same-sex marriage is a step closer to being legal – after the Senate passed a bill without amendments.

    This afternoon, the upper house voted 43 to 12 in favour of the bill originally proposed by Liberal senator Dean Smith.

  150. stackja

    My baptismal ceremony was probably performed in Latin.

  151. calli

    So she’s a Protestant who attended Catholic School who married a Joo?

    Sounds like my family. Without the Buddhist, the Muslim, the White Witch and the bevvy of Atheists. No Mormons as yet.

    Christmas will be interesting again this year.

  152. Diogenes

    Another Turdbull win aka only 1.7 Billion peed up the wall.

    One of the Australian government’s signature policies, the electronic health record, has been all-but-abandoned by the healthcare sector.

    While the AU$1.7 billion spent on the My Health Record system so far has attracted registrations from more than five million Australians, the government’s dashboard [PDF] for the system reveals a collapse in the rate of new registrations.

    As Healthcare IT News noted, the healthcare sector’s participation is low: just 263 specialists connected to the system, and fewer than 150 hospital discharge summaries were viewed by any healthcare provider.

    GPs who diligently entered patient summaries into the system are probably wasting their time: only 200 such documents were viewed by hospital staff in August.

    https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/11/29/hardly_anyone_uses_australias_my_health_record_service/

  153. Peter Castieau

    I see Sam Dastardly didn’t vote in the final division for SSM. What was he up to?

  154. Mother Lode

    The report, Right Skills Right Time, says the total cost to Australians of over-qualification is $4 billion a year.

    It doesn’t help that university is now advertised as a self-realisation program. Not entirely surprising with the algal blook of soft humanities courses dressing up as disciplines.

    You can get a Doctorate in Lesbian Vaginal Macrame, but not a Bachelors (Da Patriarchy!) or a Masters (There it is again!)

    And it would still be patriarchy if they wymmin-ised the degrees: Bachelor -> Spinster! Master -> Mistress!

    Patriarchy! Everywhere! Look out!

  155. Oh come on

    It is not theologically possible to baptise an already baptised Christian.

    The modern CofE isn’t terribly fussy about such niceties as something being theologically possible or not. I’d say a good chunk of the clergy don’t believe in God, or, more correctly, they do believe in God but when they say God they mean the state.

  156. notafan

    The modern CofE isn’t terribly fussy about such niceties as something being theologically possible or not.

    True but the Queen is and I dare say she is the one making the running here

  157. A Lurker

    I see Sam Dastardly didn’t vote in the final division for SSM. What was he up to?

    Any chance of linking to a list of who voted for and against, and who abstained?
    Just for future reference of course when it comes time to fill out the Federal Senate ballot sheet.

  158. Stimpson J. Cat

    It is not theologically possible to baptise an already baptised Christian.

    Somebody tell Jesus.

  159. Oh come on

    In that respect, their belief in ‘god’ is very very strong indeed.

  160. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)
  161. Mother Lode

    algal bloom

    Wasn’t on my iPhone, but the Siri’s vectors of mischief are pernicious.

  162. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Not in chamber: Seselja, Hanson, Georgiou, Cash and David Fawcett. (Also, from Labor, Jacinta Collins who was paired with Gavin Marshall).

    Abstaining: McKenzie, McGrath.

    https://twitter.com/CroweDM

  163. C.L.

    Re-baptism was also forbidden in the 1960s, P.
    It has always been forbidden by Canon Law.
    A person may be “conditionally” baptised if doubt exists as to whether he was baptised at all or if the wording used – and known to have been used by marginal sects – is adjudged to have been inadequate.
    The latter seems to be the case with Harry’s fiancé.

  164. Oh come on

    I still like the Eddie Izzard skit:

    -Cake or death?
    -Err I’ll have the chicken, please.
    -Certainly, sir. Thank you for flying Church of England. Cake or death?

  165. C.L.

    It is not theologically possible to baptise an already baptised Christian.
    —————–
    Somebody tell Jesus.

    Why?

  166. A Lurker

    This Saturday is by-election time for the New England electorate.
    Any suggestions for the top 5 spots?
    Btw, I’ve already ruled out the ones with an asterisk next to their names.

    1 STRETTON, Richard – Christian Democratic Party (Fred Nile Group)
    2 *WAGSTAFF, Skyla Shane – Animal Justice Party
    3 POTTS, Andrew – Affordable Housing Party
    4 MADDEN, Jeff – Independent
    5 *SMYTH, Tristam – Liberal Democrats
    6 CARTER, Dean – Independent
    7 *JOYCE, Barnaby – The Nationals
    8 *BOURKE, William – Sustainable Australia
    9 STACEY, Warwick – Seniors United Party of Australia
    10 *TABER, Rob – Independent
    11 MAILLER, Pete – CountryMinded
    12 *EWINGS, David – Labor
    13 CRANNEY, Donald – Rise Up Australia Party
    14 *WILLS, Peter – The Greens
    15 *McINTYRE, Jamie – 21st Century Australia
    16 *MEOW-MEOW, Meow-Ludo Disco Gamma – Science Party
    17 *RITZA, Ian – Australian Country Party

  167. Leigh Lowe

    I see Sam Dastardly didn’t vote in the final division for SSM. What was he up to?

    So the slippery little dwarf can talk out of both sides of his mouth …
    If asked by the hipster yoof on Q&A he will say “of course, love is love”.
    If asked by the Western Sydney terrorists he will say “I believe strongly in traditional family and cultural values”.
    Neither is a direct answer which can be taken to the bank and nailed to the mast … if indeed banks still have masts.

  168. Your Avatar wants #16, surely, Lurker. 🙂

  169. zyconoclast

    I see Sam Dastardly didn’t vote in the final division for SSM. What was he up to?

    Chinese takeaway?

  170. Oh come on

    -You there! Cake or death!?!

    -Death – I mean cake!

    -You said death! You said death!

    -Cake, I meant cake!

    -Oh all right. You’re lucky I’m Church of England. You, cake or death!

    -Cake please.

    -Well we’re outta cake! We only had so many slices and we weren’t expecting such a rush.

  171. Bruce of Newcastle

    University students taking longer to finish degrees, many fail to find work quickly: reports

    In the last week or so I’ve seen several adverts on TV and billboards for TAFE degrees.
    Yes, bachelor degrees at TAFEs.
    Obviously one can never have too much overqualification.

  172. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    MEOW-MEOW, Meow-Ludo Disco Gamma

    Sounds like someone the old Monster Raving Looney Party, back in the U.K., founded by one “Screaming Lord Sutch” would field as a candidate.

  173. calli

    Why rule out Meow-Meow? Sounds like a perfect fit for the Canberra circus.

  174. Leigh Lowe

    This Saturday is by-election time for the New England electorate.

    Where is the bitter old lezzo, Toni Windsor?

  175. Oh come on

    He’s not running, is he? I figure he figures he’s well and truly done his dash with the electorate. The guy may be many things but he isn’t stupid.

  176. calli

    Where is the bitter old lezzo, Toni Windsor?

    The local tribe speared him after his recent racist tweet.

  177. Oh come on

    Isn’t meow-meow a designer drug?

  178. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The local tribe speared him after his recent racist tweet.

    The local tribe “whistle cocked” the old lezzo.

  179. calli

    They tried a nulla nulla first but it bounced off.

  180. zyconoclast

    Where is the bitter old lezzo, Toni Windsor?

    He will be celebrating the SSM vote with an unlubricated self-fisting.

  181. duncanm

    I’m having some idle fun winding up sandal-wearing inner-city hippies with real facts regarding a warmer climate, CO2, and catastrophies attributed to glowball warmening on another forum.

    Small things please small minds.

  182. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    He’s not running, is he? I figure he figures he’s well and truly done his dash with the electorate. The guy may be many things but he isn’t stupid.

    IIRC, he did announce that he wouldn’t be running.

  183. C.L.

    “This debate has been good for the soul of the country.

    “It has been good for the soul of this chamber and it will be good for the souls of LGBTI children throughout our great country.”

    Possibly the creepiest thing ever said in our national parliament.

  184. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    THE NATION
    Milo Yiannopoulos lands in Australia, targeting Julia Gillard

    AAP
    2:16PM November 29, 2017

    Right-wing provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos has branded former prime minister Julia Gillard “a prick” as he prepares to embark on his speaking tour of Australia.

    The self-described “one man wrecking crew” and “internet supervillain” hurled the insult — along with plenty of others towards feminists and those on the left-wing of politics — during his first news conference on Australian shores today.

    After attacking several Australian journalists for cancelling interviews with him, he admitted he was a fan of former Liberal prime minister Tony Abbott but not of Australia’s first female prime minister.

    “I liked that guy Tony Abbott, I thought he was cool because he was ballsy … he was up against Julia Gillard who seemed like a complete prick,” Yiannopoulos told reporters.

    Yiannopoulos added that his experience of Australia was more cultural than political, saying he was a fan of the satirical TV comedy Kath and Kim and “what’s his name who does Dame Edna … Barry Humphries”.

    But he still weighed into plenty of political issues, calling on federal politicians debating same-sex marriage laws not to let them pass because there is no constitutional protection for freedom of religious expression and conscience like in the US.

    “And I say that as a married gay person,” he said.

    He also praised Australia’s immigration system, described section 18 of the Racial Discrimination Act as “the worst law”, and urged conservative politicians to realise they “have the high moral ground” and should use it to highlight free speech.

    Yiannopoulos has sold 10,000 tickets for his speaking tour of Sydney, Melbourne, Perth, the Gold Coast and Adelaide.

    From the Oz. Harsh, but fair.

  185. Confused Old Misfit

    What the QoE, AoC & assorted advisors decree is what will be.

  186. Senate passes bill.

    Marriage remains what it was yesterday, today, and will be always. Nothing the state does can change that at all. All today demonstrates is the utter confusion and conceit of contemporary politics.

  187. P

    C.L.
    #2569923, posted on November 29, 2017 at 2:29 pm

    Thank you C.L. again for your reply.

    I would like to quote from this link –
    http://canonlawmadeeasy.com/2010/03/11/do-converts-have-to-be-rebaptized/

    Second last paragraph:
    “It is true that, in days long gone, it was common practice to baptize conditionally all those protestants who wished to enter the Catholic Church, just to be on the safe side.”

    It just doesn’t clarify how long ago “in days long ago”.

    I

  188. Stimpson J. Cat

    Why?

    Fairly certain Jesus baptised people with the Holy Spirit and Fire after they had already been baptised with Water.

  189. C.L.

    Milo has landed.

    “I liked that guy Tony Abbott, I thought he was cool because he was ballsy … he was up against Julia Gillard who seemed like a complete prick,” Yiannopoulos told reporters.

    Gillard targeted by Yiannopoulos.
    LOL.

  190. notafan

    COM

    Meghan will begin the process of becoming a UK citizen and will also need to be baptised and confirmed before the ceremony as she is currently a Protestant.

    Actually that articles doesn’t answer the question

    If fact, It doesn’t even make sense

    What happens when you link the ‘lifestyle’ section I suppose.

  191. Mother Lode

    Marriage remains what it was yesterday, today, and will be always.

    I think there is much in this.

    People will still make fun of the more ostentatiously camp gays as they already do. They will simply distinguish between what they see as ‘real’ marriage and ‘gay’ marriage – the latter being a strange raft of cheeky jokes.

    After all the anti-discrimination laws and court cases about gay rights, one of the most common expressions of contempt among the most PC indoctrinated generation EVAH for something feeble and laboriously affected is…’gay’.

  192. Viva

    While C.L. et al have been examining the entrails of canon law I have been considering Ms Markle and examining the evidence so far presented.

    While I put Women’s Weekly readers to shame when it comes to basking in royal gossip and ooh aahhing at royal engagements etc, alas my initial excitement at the news has turned a touch more cynical as Georgina Downer expressed misgivings about this match on Bolt last night and that got me thinking (never a good idea).

    – This lady states that she knew little about the prince and the royal family which has been apparently been contradicted by a friend who watched royal goings on with her on tv. But let’s face it she was 16 when Diana died and she was not living in a cave.

    – It is reported that a mutual friend set up a blind date between Harry and the apparently unsuspecting Meghan. She only asked “Is he nice?’ – so she says. I think young Harry was the unsuspecting one saying “this beautiful woman just tripped and fell into my life”. Fully armed entrapment and invasion is more like it!

    – The romance took off before poor Harry, quickly in thrall to her exotic charms and alluring techniques, could collect his thoughts -as I am sure she intended.

    No doubt her story is confected to allay fears that – gasp! – she may be a manipulative social climber

    Perhaps princes are destined to be ensnared by damsels such as these. The Middleton girls are apparently called the Wisteria sisters because they are such excellent representatives of the climbing plant species.

  193. mh

    Newcastle’s iconic, phallic-shaped Queens Wharf Tower set for demolition, 30 years after it was erected

    …As a piece of architecture, the tower attracted many quizzical looks and awkward questions over the years from visitors and residents alike, mainly because of its unmistakable phallic shape.

    Hmmmm. Maybe from ABC viewers.

    PJW discusses what is all the rage in ‘Modern Art’

  194. notafan

    P that article simply supports what C L said

    a conditional baptism is performed if there are any doubts as to the validity of the first and if the first was valid then it has no effect

    conditionally baptizing is not re-baptizing

    because it is not possible

    Like a scientific law, only better

  195. Max;

    Insisting that ‘it’s normal’ begs the question.

    It will never stop. They can never be content.

    They know what they are doing is abnormal, but want to do it anyway. So if the ABCDEF community can demand it be described as ‘normal’, then they will be happy because in retard world, the description of something is equivalent to the thing itself.
    The problem is that this kind of mental gymnastics is false and they know it.
    Hence they can never be happy and content with their lot in life.

    The fallacy of fanatics is the conviction that their beliefs explain reality. And that following their beliefs must therefore lead to a successful outcome.

  196. Confused Old Misfit

    Well, notafan, what do you expect when you link to such a highly thought of sight? Clarity? Heaven forfend!

  197. Mother Lode

    Julia Gillard who seemed like a complete prick

    Once again it takes lazy-eyed, blond-haired, British born, gay American to show us the way.

  198. notafan

    Worse still Harry and Ms Markle are COUSINS

    okay 15 times removed with a common ancestor in the fifteen century but still

  199. Geriatric Mayfly

    Is Mizzzzz Sales, Australia’s top notch interviewer prepared to take on Milo? She should be more than a match for him. I suspect that the Editor in Chief, Ol’ Googles, has issued a blanket ban on his presence in any ABC premises, recently dedicated to diversity.

  200. notafan

    COM

    You should have linked the JG dance off, it would have been more enlightening

  201. notafan

    P linked to that site, not notafan.

    DB I think COM was referring to the English tabloid that provided the last word as to why Ms Markle needed to be dunked, or re dunked or whatever

  202. notafan

    Ok I am now confused

    who is you?

    As Boris might say

  203. Mark from Melbourne

    A Chrissy Pyne moment (or two)…

    Regular readers will undoubtedly recall the grant made to the (paraphrasing here) Indigenous Submarine Building Crew some time back. From memory, it was from the Dept of Innovation (or whatever moniker it now goes by).

    Seems that that grant was made at the direction of a Minister’s office, resulted in the resignation of the chap who was supposed to have “approved” it in protest, and has now been reversed and the chap has been reinstated. Something about lack of process or some such.

    Interestingly, though completely unrelated, the Courtenay House ponzi scheme seems to have embroiled a federal minister.

    Geez, must be fun in the winner’s circle, eh what?

  204. Roger

    Fairly certain Jesus baptised people with the Holy Spirit and Fire after they had already been baptised with Water.

    That’s a distinction John makes between his baptism of repentance and Jesus’ sacramental baptism (which self-evidently doesn’t exclude water, since baptism literally means being dipped in with water). Jesus’ command to the church to baptise can be found in Matthew 28:18-20.

  205. Atoms for Peace

    When Tony Abbott looked at his watch, I always thought that was a subtle reminder to the speaker of the house that someone was going over the time limit for a speech/reply ?

  206. Confused Old Misfit

    Just attempting to point to the ludicrous waste of time any discussion on the matter will prove to be.
    I re-iterate: Whatever the QoE, AoC & their assorted advisers decree is what will be. What the rest of us may believe to be the case will be as irrelevant as the opinion expressed in the lifestyle section of that UK rag.

  207. Habib;

    I’m offering any odds on a Moslem Baker/florist/etc being targeted by militant perverts.

    This one needs to be run in front of the courts with some indecent haste.
    We need two SSMers to front up to Mohammeds Bakery and Wedding Cake Shoppe, get filmed being rejected because gay, then get the ball rolling for a court hearing.
    Test this insane law.

  208. Habib

    Wee Doogie and Blimpy Carr desperately running interference for the Poisonous Persian. At least I think Doogie is, difficult to decipher his incoherent gibberish. Brandis is about as merciless as being savaged by a sheep, as usual. Why isn’t the Iranian Imp being referred to plod for charges of espionage?

  209. struth

    Oh my God.
    I finally had a look at this Jordan Peterson character everyone goes on about.

    He is literally selling a f$cking Personality Test online!

    Scientologist Book Merchant Confirmed!!!

    What a f$cking joke.

    Yeah I agree.
    Watched him for 30 seconds from one of Srr’s posts and realised straight away he wasn’t the real deal.

  210. Baldrick

    SSM Bill:
    YES VOTERS

    Liberals/Nationals
    Simon Birmingham
    George Brandis
    David Bushby
    Mathias Cormann
    Jonathon Duniam
    Mitch Fifield
    Ian ​Macdonald
    Nigel Scullion
    Anne Ruston
    James Paterson
    Jane Hume
    Marise Payne
    Linda Reynolds
    Scott Ryan Dean Smith

    Labor
    Carol Brown
    Catryna Bilyk
    Doug Cameron
    Kim Carr
    Anthony Chisholm
    Kimberley Kitching
    ​Sue Lines
    Jenny McAllister
    Malarndirri McCarthy
    Claire Moore
    Louise Pratt
    Lisa Singh
    Anne Urquhart
    Murray Watt
    Penny Wong

    Greens
    Andrew Bartlett
    Richard Di Natale
    Sarah Hanson-Young
    Nick McKim
    ​Lee Rhiannon
    Janet Rice
    Jordon Steele-John
    Rachel Siewert
    Peter Whish-Wilson

    Crossbench
    Stirling Griff
    Rex Patrick
    David Leyonhjelm
    ​Derryn Hinch
    ___________________________________
    NO VOTERS

    Labor
    Chris Ketter
    Helen Polley

    Liberals/Nationals
    Concetta Fierravanti-Wells
    Eric Abetz
    Slade Brockman
    John Williams
    Matt Canavan
    Barry O’Sullivan

    Crossbench
    Lucy Gichuhi
    Fraser Anning
    Cory Bernardi
    Brian Burston
    ____________________________
    DID NOT VOTE

    Liberals/Nationals
    Michaelia Cash (abstained)
    David Fawcett (abstained)
    James McGrath (abstained)
    Zed Seselja (abstained)
    ​Arthur Sinodinos (on leave)
    Bridget McKenzie (abstained)

    Labor
    Jacinta Collins (paired)
    Sam Dastyari (attending funeral)
    Pat Dodson (leave)
    Don Farrell (attending funeral)
    Alex Gallacher
    Katy Gallagher (leave)
    Gavin Marshall (overseas)
    Deb O’Neill (abstain)
    Glenn Sterle

    Crossbench
    Pauline Hanson (abstained)
    Peter Georgiou (abstained)

  211. calli

    The romance took off before poor Harry, quickly in thrall to her exotic charms and alluring techniques, could collect his thoughts -as I am sure she intended.

    Ah ha! Another Wallis Simpson?

    There were rumours…

    😳

  212. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Wee Doogie and Blimpy Carr desperately running interference for the Poisonous Persian. At least I think Doogie is, difficult to decipher his incoherent gibberish

    The hardest working person in Parliament is the unfortunate individual, tasked with translating Doogie’s incoherent grunts, into the English language.

  213. Stimpson J. Cat

    Yeah I agree.
    Watched him for 30 seconds from one of Srr’s posts and realised straight away he wasn’t the real deal.

    He’s a leaf.
    Never trust a F$cking Leaf.

  214. notafan

    Just attempting to point to the ludicrous waste of time any discussion on the matter will prove to be.

    Except COM that the discussion moved to a general discussion of baptism which seemed to have been fruitful enough, as is the Catallaxy way.

  215. Roger

    Whatever the QoE, AoC & their assorted advisers decree is what will be.

    What the AofC decrees will be based on the facts of her case and how long standing church law and practice applies to it. He is bound to follow these guides, just as a judge is bound to follow a legal precedent. If the report that she is to be baptised is correct, we can assume that either she is not baptised or any purported baptism she has received in the past has been judged to be invalid.

  216. Confused Old Misfit

    Yeah Stimp, Leafs are bloody hopeless. Just watch them fall from 2 in the division to somewhere in the bottom half.

  217. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    SOUNDS FAMILIAR. WILL THEY BE SUED?
    Andrew Bolt, Herald Sun
    November 29, 2017 10:59am

    I did try to make exactly this point about the Telstra award for indigenous artists, to my very great cost:

    Cosseted urbanites who belatedly self-identify as indigenous are ­ripping much-needed funds from the pockets of their disadvantaged brethren in remote communities farther north, according to one of the nation’s highest-profile Aboriginal bodies.

    Andrew Bolt, drawn, hanged and quartered for asking the same question…

  218. feelthebern

    More ALP Senators didn’t vote yes than LNP Senators.
    They will not be reminded of it.
    Ever.
    I wonder who Sam D & Don F had to kill so they had funerals on today.

  219. Roger

    YES VOTERS

    James Paterson.

    He folded quickly.

  220. Kneel

    “Where is the bitter old lezzo, Toni Windsor?”

    He’s found the fishnets and the stilettos, still looking for the crotchless undies I believe.
    Not that there’s anything wrong with that – love is love, after all. Right? RIGHT?

    “University students taking longer to finish degrees, many fail to find work quickly”
    or maybe that. Who can say?

  221. struth

    David Lyinghole will never get my vote.

  222. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Sam Dastyari (attending funeral)

  223. Confused Old Misfit

    Correct Roger! Then we will get the anguished screams: #NOTMY PRINCESS!

  224. .

    What is a 21st-century party? They’re almost 17 years late!

  225. OneWorldGovernment

    A Chinese company has built a 2,000 metric-ton (2,204 tons) all-electric cargo ship
    ….It will travel a fixed route on one of the main waterways of southern China—the Pearl River—and will transport coal to a local power plant, according to state news portal Chinanews.

    From a post by Steven Hayward at the Powerline Blog who sums it up beautifully,

    In other words, this electric ship will be used to transport coal to a power plant to generate electricity to charge electric car and ship batteries. The future, we’re told.

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2017/11/latest-from-the-electric-slide.php

  226. calli

    Thanks for that PJW video mh. Love his high pitched, whiny leftie SJW voice – I hear it now whenever I read virtue signalling, contrarian, pseudo-intellectual drivel. It’s Watson’s great gift to the world.

    “Beauty has fallen into disrepute” – Scruton. Indeed it has.

  227. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    David Lyinghole will never get my vote.

    David L has been for SSM all the way through, unlike the duplicitous swines infecting the LNP and the ALP.

    Penny Wong of 2017 must think Penny Wong of 2012 is an absolute xunt of a person.

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