Combe and Dastyari – just bloody greedy

Here are two ALP characters, separated by 35 years, who have betrayed Australia and saw a business opportunity in helping a foreign power. David Combe was the ALP secretary who compromised Australia’s security by dealings with Soviet agent Valery Ivanov, a second secretary at the Soviet Embassy in Canberra in 1983.

Once Bob Hawke and his Cabinet were alerted, they had ASIO bug Combe. Bill Hayden asked then minister Mick Young “Why would Combe do that?” to which Young replied “just bloody greedy”.

Hawke then ensured that Combe’s political career was terminated and expelled Ivanov.

Mick Young couldn’t maintain Cabinet secrecy of the upcoming explusion of Ivanov and blabbed to  Eric Walsh, a former Whitlam press secretary. When Hawke discovered Young’s betrayal he was sacked, despite being good friends.

Now we have Dastyari being greedy and making money by betraying Australia and compromising an ASIO investigation of a Chinese national and spy Huang Xiangmo.

What does Bill Shorten do? Dissemble. None of the firm action of the Hawke Government.

Dastyari should be kicked out of Parliament; his political career should be terminated just as Hawke did to Combe.

But Shorten is no Hawke.

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34 Responses to Combe and Dastyari – just bloody greedy

  1. Boris

    Shorten is not government.

  2. Lucius Quinctius Cincinnatus

    Boris – Shorten may not be in government, but he can still force Dastyari out of Parliament or expel him from the ALP

  3. A Lurker

    None of the firm action of the Hawke Government.

    Australia has travelled so far down the S-bend that I suspect that a Hawke Labor Government would today not only sit on the right side of the political spectrum of Shorten’s mob, but also sit to the right of Turnbull’s Termites.

  4. Tel

    Compromising an ASIO investigation?

    That might be stretching things a tiny bit.

  5. entropy

    Where do you think this information has come from, Tel?

  6. entropy

    In fact the worrying aspect is that it seems ASIO had not only Haung and Sam, but possibly the leader of the opposition as well under surveillance. And it has been leaked.

    What bits of the apparent surveillance powers, who how and why they were bring used, isn’t of concern, let alone the actual behaviour exposed?

  7. Tel

    Where do you think this information has come from, Tel?

    Same place all information comes from.

    People familiar with the matter who remain anonymous because they are not authorized to speak about it, but who strangely do feel the urge to speak about it constantly despite being told not to do.

  8. Boris

    I understand the sentiment but if Dastyari did not have access to classified information, he cannot be accused of its disclosure. Still may be unethical though.

  9. struth

    Shorten is not government.

    What’s that got to do with it?

    Or , what’s that got to do with the price of Sam in China?

    The fact of the matter is that whether in opposition or in government, Sam has clearly broken 44(I).
    He cannot hold a seat in parliament.

    It is not up to Tits Shorten can only expel him from the Labor Party.

    The Governor is the one to sack him, in the same manner Whitlam was.

    Sam could decide to stay on as an independent and there is nothing Tits could do about it.

    Parties don’t exist in our constitution.
    Prime Ministers don’t exist, yet while we are on that subject, I often argue with dot over the constitution and he tries to pull that aloof “I am studying law” routine yet thinks the Queen can’t do anything without the Prime Ministers advice!
    He’s being poisoned every day he studies to become a legal liar.
    But I digress.
    They are all supposed to be “representatives.

    The Governor has a duty to respond to this outrageous traitor’s activities and adherence and allegiance to a foreign power and kick the slimey c…t out of our parliament.

  10. struth

    It is not up to Tits Shorten WHO can only expel him from the Labor Party.

  11. struth

    Not really Tom, LQC doesn’t seem to get the difference between a member of parliament and an employee of the labor party.

  12. NB

    Not sure what the problem is. Isn’t it the duty of ALP members these days to preference the interests of a foreign communist power over Australia’s (and Western) interests? Or is that just the Greens? Or is it just the UN they kow tow to?

  13. struth

    All of our politicians that say things like Julie Bishop has done , along the lines of “Sam should resign” are either ignorant of our constitution or are purposefully avoiding bringing it up.
    Neither reason should be tolerated for a second.

    If your job is to be a member of parliament and you don’t have a good grip on it’s rule book, and you duties and responsibilities under it, you should be reamed with the red hot poker of voter outrage.

    When I am governor of this country their will be an exam held for every new member of parliament on the constitution and a score of 95% will be the pass mark.

  14. min

    Labor Party have form in dealing with foreign powers. It was not only Combe ,when Molly Sasson arrived here to set up the Russian desk ,many labor luminaries partied at Russian Embassy . She tells of the goings on and names in her book . However speaking with she has revealed just how cosy the relationships were including what Lionel Murphy was up to.

  15. stackja

    2GB reports BS tells Sam to go.

  16. Rabz

    OK, it was the JJJ news at 6:00am and I’d only just woken up, but they seemed to be reporting that another audio had emerged demonstrating that the Persian Circus Midget was actually telling his audience where all the great Chinese eateries were around Sussex St and its environs.

    Or did I “mishear”?

  17. Dr Faustus

    ‘Iron Bar’ Shorten tells Sam to go – until after the election:

    Sam Dastyari sacked by Bill Shorten as deputy Senate whip over China revelations

    Mr Shorten is not telling Sam Dastyari to quit as a senator, but has issued a statement saying his mischaracterisation of the comments made his position untenable.

    “I also told him that while I accept his word that he never had, nor disclosed, any classified information, his handling of these matters showed a lack of judgement,” Mr Shorten’s statement said.

    “I know that Senator Dastyari will learn from this experience.”

    He’ll be baaaack…

  18. NuThink

    @Dr Faustus
    “I also told him that while I accept his word that he never had, nor disclosed, any classified information, his handling of these matters showed a lack of judgement,” Mr Shorten’s statement said.

    Even though he did not hear what Sam said, he would agree with whatever Sam said! Just as he agreed with Julia.

  19. entropy

    So Shorten reckons a temporary slap on the wrist for playing with appears to be an agent of influence is sufficient. Again.
    Imagine what this implies Shorten will be like in Government.

    Are there any old style ALP left who feel uncomfortable about this?

  20. Deputy Senate Whip of the Labor Party is not a senior position, according to Stephen Conroy on Paul Murray last night.
    Therefore removing Shanghai Sam from that “one rung above lowly backbencher” position is not a severe reprimand at all.
    Plibersec is hopeless at maths – she counts Sam’s major errors at two – it is actually 5.
    The stupidity of expecting us to believe Sam’s defence of visiting Huang Xiangmo is ridiculous. Sam says he went to see Huang to tell him he couldn’t see him any more!

    The SFL party hasn’t come down on him like a ton of bricks over his warning to Huang Xiangmo about surveillance.
    Come on, get cracking with some action not media grabs.

  21. NuThink

    @Rabz
    was actually telling his audience where all the great Chinese eateries were around Sussex St and its environs.

    Do they serve halal pork?

  22. Mater

    The irony is that Sam was probably not telling Huang anything he didn’t already assume. Everyone in a position of influence should treat their phone was extreme caution, unless you’re stupid, and the Chinese aren’t that.

    In trying to play in the ‘cloak and dagger’ space, the conceited little dwarf was probably being laughed at. A useful idiot indeed.

  23. struth

    This is about Sam as a Senator in our parliament, provable 44(I) traitorous actions and the Governor.

    It has f…all to do with Tits.
    The governor is the boss in this situation, and a fictitious queen…………………………….(from a foreign country!)

  24. Viva

    Matt Thistlewaite has just repeated around 20 times that Dastyari “Has paid a heavy price” on Sky.

    Oh, so that’s alright then.

  25. old bloke

    The highly publicised events were investigated by the Hope Royal Commission into Australia’s security and intelligence agencies of 1983–1984, which found that Combe had indeed been targeted by the Soviets. Although targeted, there was no proof of intelligence breaches, nor security threats to the country. There were several cartoons that portray the commission as a kangaroo court
    (Wikipedia entry)

    It’s unfair to associate Dastyari with Combe, there is no evidence that Combe took any benefits from the Russians at any time. Combe was the President of an Australia-Russia friendship society (if I recall correctly), hence he had dealings with the Russian embassy on frequent occasions.

    Hawke wanted to establish credibility with ASIO after becoming Prime Minister, so to distance his government from the chaotic previous Labor government (Lionel Murphy’s ASIO raid for example), Combe was thrown under a bus.

    Combe was never a traitor, though I concede he was certainly naive. Dastyari is a different kettle of fish and Shorten should expel him from the party.

  26. Rabz

    Dastyari is a different kettle of fish and Shorten should expel him from the party.

    If the Persian circus midget is turfed, Joel Fitzgibberin’ should be as well.

  27. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    When I am governor of this country their will be an exam held for every new member of parliament on the constitution and a score of 95% will be the pass mark.

    I’d add an exam that you have to pass, in order to be able to cast a ballot, with a pass mark of 95%

  28. PB

    In the Globalist Utopia loyalty to one’s own Nation and people is old-fashioned and quaint.

  29. The BigBlueCat

    What Shorten doesn’t understand is that not sacking Dastyari might lead to losing an election … maybe not the next one, but one after …..

  30. Derp

    Huang Xiangmo should go.
    Send a message that we are a sovereign nation, not the Continental Hotel.
    Corruption has consequences.

    By thine own hand Mr Huang, your visa is revoked.

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