Open Forum: December 2, 2017

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  1. Bruce in WA

    Not sure that a Flying Officer would be manning the tail gun Bruce.

    I think that’s how he finished up.

  2. Infidel Tiger

    The greatest generation produced the Boomers – the worst people in human history. The pendulum always swings back.

  3. Rev. Archibald

    The worst part of the boomer demographic is the lady boomer.
    These horrible things have formed an alliance with millenial soft- cock males.
    And the bloody things run everything now.
    Everything at work is some horror show constructed by a collective of fat- arsed old shrews and their Justin Trudeau look- alike little bum boys.
    The only females they hire are grossly obese fascists or ancient dried up harpies like themselves.

  4. Fisky

    My generation, late millenials, are going to be the most reactionary in history.

  5. Oh come on

    My parents are Boomers and don’t represent the worst of the self-indulgent Boomer excesses. They do have the sentimental trait associated with Boomers, though.

  6. Fisky

    In Europe, millenials are already voting for groups like the Front National and the Austrian Freedom Party, in an attempt to reverse the catastrophic mistakes of boomers.

  7. Oh come on

    No Boomer should denigrate a millennial. No Boomer.

  8. Bruce in WA

    And the bloody things run everything now.

    At last, something we can agree on. Especially the education system.

  9. Fisky

    The worst part of the boomer demographic is the lady boomer.
    These horrible things have formed an alliance with millenial soft- cock males.
    And the bloody things run everything now.
    Everything at work is some horror show constructed by a collective of fat- arsed old shrews and their Justin Trudeau look- alike little bum boys.
    The only females they hire are grossly obese fascists or ancient dried up harpies like themselves.

    It’s disgusting to watch, but you are absolutely right. Also, it’s the younger lady boomer demographic who are desperate to import male “refugees”, for fairly transparent reasons.

  10. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    This mild, gentlemanly man had been Flying Officer Currie, a tail-gunner in 466 Squadron RAAF.

    “I’d like to be a Wop/ airgunnery, and blow the Huns to b#ggery, it’s foolish but it’s fun..”

  11. Infidel Tiger

    The more you think about Boomers the more essential euthansia is. We can release trillions in ill gotten gains by offing these awful people.

  12. Bruce in WA

    Millennials characteristics

    Millennials have been characterized in a number of different ways. On the negative side, they’ve been described as lazy, narcissistic and prone to jump from job to job. The 2008 book “Trophy Kids” by Ron Alsop discusses how many young people have been rewarded for minimal accomplishments (such as mere participation) in competitive sports, and have unrealistic expectations of working life.

    A story in Time magazine said polls show that Millennials “want flexible work schedules, more ‘me time’ on the job, and nearly nonstop feedback and career advice from managers.” Another Time story in May 2013, titled “The Me Me Me Generation,” begins: “They’re narcissistic. They’re lazy. They’re coddled. They’re even a bit delusional. Those aren’t just unfounded negative stereotypes about 80 million Americans born roughly between 1980 and 2000. They’re backed up by a decade of sociological research.” The article also points out that Millennials may be simply adapting quickly to a world undergoing rapid technological change.

    A 2012 study found Millennials to be “more civically and politically disengaged, more focused on materialistic values, and less concerned about helping the larger community than were GenX (born 1962-1981) and Baby Boomers (born 1946 to about 1961) at the same ages,” according to USA Today. “The trend is more of an emphasis on extrinsic values such as money, fame, and image, and less emphasis on intrinsic values such as self-acceptance, group affiliation and community.” The study was based on an analysis of two large databases of 9 million high school seniors or entering college students.

    No comment … just enjoying my evening.

  13. Fisky

    It’s a good point, Infidel. We must institute mass euthanasia now, before the boomers flog all their assets to the Chinese and piss it up on cruises.

  14. Infidel Tiger

    This is a rare moment. We are all in agreeance that Boomers are the worst people in history. The only debate now is how we get rid of them.

  15. Oh come on

    If I hear one more Boomer bitching about the “snowflake generation”…no. Your contemporaries made this. Look in a fucking mirror once in a while.

  16. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    No Boomer should denigrate a millennial. No Boomer.

    If it wasn’t for Baby Boomers, millennials wouldn’t have any one to bludge off.

  17. Infidel Tiger

    Nothing sums up the Boomers better than the Vietnam War protests: all the protests ended the day conscription ended. Shirkers and malingerers.

  18. Oh come on

    You’re Gen X, fisky. We’re a confused mob, with one foot in old fashioned competence we learnt from our grandparents and one foot in the learnt helplessness characteristic of our parents.

  19. Infidel Tiger

    If it wasn’t for Baby Boomers, millennials wouldn’t have any one to bludge off.

    Hahaha! The greatest bludgers in human history are the Boomers.

  20. Bruce in WA

    It’s a good point, Infidel. We must institute mass euthanasia now, before the boomers flog all their assets to the Chinese and piss it up on cruises.

    Which reminds me … my boomer wife and I are booked on a cruise in March next year … 38 days … Singapore to Southampton … followed by a fortnight in Ireland.

    Life is gooooood!

  21. Infidel Tiger

    Be careful Bruce. In the not too distant future we will be taking many Boomers on cruises and none will be coming back.

  22. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Which reminds me … my boomer wife and I are booked on a cruise in March next year … 38 days … Singapore to Southampton … followed by a fortnight in Ireland.

    Life is gooooood!

    I’m looking at three weeks on a river cruise in the South of France, and the Western Front is still on my bucket list.

  23. Bruce in WA

    Be careful Bruce. In the not too distant future we will be taking many Boomers on cruises and none will be coming back.

    I love the Cat!

  24. Oh come on

    If it wasn’t for Baby Boomers, millennials wouldn’t have any one to bludge off.

    LOL!!! Take that shit on the road! We’re talking about the generation that squandered their forebears’ hard-earned wealth AND are madly in the process of running up a colossal debt that they propose their children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren repay. Good stuff, keep the jokes coming!

  25. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    followed by a fortnight in Ireland.

    What part of Ireland?

  26. Fisky

    You’re Gen X, fisky. We’re a confused mob, with one foot in old fashioned competence we learnt from our grandparents and one foot in the learnt helplessness characteristic of our parents.

    Am I? Bloody hell, these newfangled generational boundaries are more fluid than gender.

  27. Oh come on

    Yes. It’s time the Boomers saw some trenches on their cruise. They have to dig the trenches for extra authenticity. And then for an even more authentic experience…

  28. Bruce in WA

    I’m looking at three weeks on a river cruise in the South of France

    France river cruise is on our bucket list
    Also Edinburgh Tattoo
    St Petersburg
    Alaska (again)
    British canal boat cruise (Lotto material that one!)
    Muscle car down Route 66
    Mississippi River cruise
    European Christmas markets
    Swiss Glacier Express

  29. Snoopy

    Andrew O’Keefe is possibly the most outstanding Gen Xer Australia has produced.

  30. Bruce in WA

    What part of Ireland?

    Southern.

  31. Bruce in WA

    Andrew O’Keefe is possibly the most outstanding Gen Xer Australia has produced.

    Now I know you’re pulling the piss!

  32. Makka

    I see the millennial crybabies are having a good whinge. As usual. Not enough froth on the latte this morning, children? Did Noah bugger up the fern pattern on the soy cappuccino?

    Grump on Sunday night because they realise they have to actually get off their arses to get to work tomorrow. Sad fks they are. By lunchtime they’ll be seeking positive feedback from their boomer boss so to make it through to knock off without self harming . Heartbreaking stuff.

  33. Bruce in WA

    Yes. It’s time the Boomers saw some trenches on their cruise. They have to dig the trenches for extra authenticity. And then for an even more authentic experience…

    Bought my first rifle 50 years ago. Nationally accredited Range Officer. Nationally accredited shooting coach. Give me a .303 and bring it on … boy!

  34. Oh come on

    I have enormous respect for individuals from the Boomer generation. That cannot hide the fact that the Boomers have been the most destructive generation in human history. Any wealth the Boomers have has been inherited or borrowed for future generations to repay. So when I see individual Boomers condemning an entire generation, such as the poor pathetic Millennials who were gelded from birth by the Boomers and their civilisation-destroying counter-cultural norms, well…it irks me somewhat.

  35. Fisky

    Fisky’s Ocean Helicopter Tours* are going to be an enormous hit with boomer offspring!

  36. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    St Petersburg

    My mother, in her late seventies, went on the Trans Siberian Railway, and visited Saint Petersberg. The joke was that the headquarters of the old secret police was the tallest building in the city. You could see all the way to Siberia..

  37. Infidel Tiger

    There’s nothing Boomers enjoy more than pottering around the war graves of the greatest generation in the morning and then retiring for a few glasses of Chardonnay in the afternoon.

    Such horrendous people it’s hard to fathom how we haven’t herded them into industrial mincing machines yet.

  38. Oh come on

    Makka and Zulu, you could always be part of the solution rather than part of the problem. It is your contemporaries that have screwed everything up.

  39. Bruce in WA

    it irks me somewhat.

    I’ve had wanks that’ve lived longer than most millennials. When their balls drop they can come and talk to me.

  40. Oh come on

    This is just a simple fact. You know it. Hillary Clinton.

  41. Oh come on

    You obviously spend a long time wanking, Brucie.

  42. Infidel Tiger

    The cornered Boomer always lashes out rather than refuting the facts around their awfulness. An horrendous generation of people we will all breathe a sigh of relief from as we kill them off.

  43. Snoopy

    Australian-born Gen Y’s are so bloody hopeless that the best are foreign born. Yassmin Abdul-Magpie is representative of the best on offer.

  44. Bruce in WA

    You obviously spend a long time wanking, Brucie.

    When I was young, son, when I was young. Dad said if I didn’t stop I’d need glasses.

    I told him I was prepared to sacrifice one eye.

    😀

  45. Makka

    The cornered Boomer always lashes out rather than refuting the facts around their awfulness. An horrendous generation of people we will all breathe a sigh of relief from as we kill them off.

    Lol. You soft cocks haven’t the balls. You’d go crying to the state to do it for you.

  46. Oh come on

    Australian-born Gen Y’s are so bloody hopeless that the best are foreign born.

    Yes. Why?

  47. Snoopy

    Andrew O’Keefe is possibly the most outstanding Gen Xer Australia has produced.

    Now I know you’re pulling the piss!

    You’re right, Bruce. Upon reflection it’s clear I should have nominated Squalid Ali.

  48. Infidel Tiger

    Haha! Boomers now blaming us for the third world filth they imported to tend to their aged care!

    You theieving xunts are all going to die in agony while a third worlder ignores your screams.

  49. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Bought my first rifle 50 years ago. Nationally accredited Range Officer. Nationally accredited shooting coach. Give me a .303 and bring it on … boy!

    Four bullseyes, out of five rounds, at 300 yards, on the Bushmead rifle range, with a stock standard .303 rifle.

    From out of my past, there comes the rising bellow of an infantry Staff Sergeant, in full cry

    “Now listen young “Two Alpha.” You may be a disgusting creature, your drinking habits defy belief, you were sprung exiting the woman’s barracks at O -God thirty, but you are a fvcking good machine gunner, and I’ll take that into account.”

    Bring on the bawling Millennials.

  50. Bruce in WA

    You’re right, Bruce. Upon reflection it’s clear I should have nominated Squalid Ali.

    I must clean these glasses. Instead of “nominated” I read, “denigrated, defiled and spat on”.

    My bad.

  51. Fisky

    Infidel Tiger
    #2574466, posted on December 3, 2017 at 11:43 pm

    Haha! Boomers now blaming us for the third world filth they imported to tend to their aged care!

    You theieving xunts are all going to die in agony while a third worlder ignores your screams.

    The good news is the black Africans are the majority of carers now, and they are by far the most incompetent. They really don’t give a shit!

  52. Infidel Tiger

    No offence Zulu, but your miliatary stories sound much like the cricketer who boasts of having a good net session.

  53. Oh come on

    Bring on the bawling Millennials.

    …who are the product of your generation’s fucked up values. What you describe is that of your elders.

    Look around you. Your contemporaries did this. I don’t say you, because you may well hold the values of an earlier time. But to feel malevolence for the victims of your contemporaries, who you were not able to suppress…that’s just fuzzy thinking.

  54. Bruce in WA

    Four bullseyes, out of five rounds, at 300 yards, on the Bushmead rifle range, with a stock standard .303 rifle.

    Noice!

    My best was 98.something (forgotten)/100 at 900 yards with a single shot Omark 44B with Central peep sight using bog standard military issue 7.62 FMJ. (In the old days (1980s), when you didn’t need a licence for fullbore, just a military “warrant”.)

  55. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Makka and Zulu, you could always be part of the solution rather than part of the problem. It is your contemporaries that have screwed everything up.

    I’m leaving the next generation a fairly hefty inheritance. I’ve explained to them that they get said inheritance, under the same terms I got said inheritance. “Live off the income generated, but build on and preserve the inheritance, to hand it on to the next generation.”

  56. Bruce in WA

    The good news is the black Africans are the majority of carers now, and they are by far the most incompetent. They really don’t give a shit!

    OK, serious just for a moment. The “black Africans” who looked after my mother during her final months of Alzheimer’s were just magnificent. Mum wasn’t exactly an easy patient, but they never stopped caring or looking after her. Bloody wonderful they were.

  57. Snoopy

    Bring on the bawling Millennials.

    …who are the product of your generation’s fucked up values.

    You might have us there. Boomers are still pumping out sprogs while male Gen Xers and Ys are only attracted by bum sex.

  58. Oh come on

    It’s clear what ails today’s aimless youth. It’s the hangover from the excesses of the Boomers and their self-indulgent ‘liberation’ – their Woodstocks, their Summers of Love, their discarding of the heavy religion trip man, their self-proclaimed release from responsibility in general. You don’t shed that legacy of civilisation and not have the consequences of your actions reverberate down the generations.

    ‘Generation snowflake’ – Boomers, you made this (BIRM).

  59. Bruce in WA

    their Woodstocks, their Summers of Love

    I missed out on those. Too busy working.

  60. Snoopy

    Don’t whine OCO you had Neighbours.

  61. Infidel Tiger

    Boomers pumping out sprogs? Sorry. You faggots produced the greatest decline in birth rate in human history. And to top it off you instigated the largest immigration swindle in human history.

    You should all just shut up and get ready to die in agony while no one gives a shit.

  62. Oh come on

    Too busy working wanking

    …were you not saying?

  63. Rev. Archibald

    When I had my first serious car accident at 15 the hospital was a model of cool efficiency with hot young nurses in starched uniforms and hats. The french windows opened into a beautiful garden wbere patients in wheelchairs were rehabilitating.
    Today’s hospitals are a nightmare of slovenly old slags and assorted foriegners and dreadlocked freaks with fascist tendencies overseeing a malestrom of seething chaos.
    Admit it boomers.
    You have fucked everything.
    You know it. We know it.

  64. Snoopy

    while no one gives a shit.

    Why am I reminded of commenters who constantly claim to never read this or that person’s posts. Your envy is driving you mad.

  65. Oh come on

    It’s clear what ails today’s aimless youth. It’s the hangover from the excesses of the Boomers and their self-indulgent ‘liberation’ – their Woodstocks, their Summers of Love, their discarding of the heavy religion trip man, their self-proclaimed release from responsibility in general. You don’t shed that legacy of civilisation and not have the consequences of your actions reverberate down the generations.

    Snoopy, answer this critique with something substantive or go back to playing pocket billiards with Brucie.

  66. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    No offence Zulu, but your miliatary stories sound much like the cricketer who boasts of having a good net session.

    No offense taken, but when the butts party rings through the scores, and the range officer comes down to make sure that no – one has rung in a telescopic sight, it’s a bit difficult not to crow, just a little.

  67. Baldrick

    The government has recovered some ground from its horror result in the last Newspoll, which showed Labor was ahead by 55 to 45 per cent. It now trails by 53 to 47 per cent.

    Which means the Stupid.Fucking.Liberals would still lose in a landslide, but do carry on claiming a victory after the New England by-election Malcolm.

  68. Bruce in WA

    Boomers pumping out sprogs? Sorry.

    Oh, I dunno. The Don seems to be doing all right.

    And Clint Eastwood, and Rod Stewart, and Spielberg and ….

  69. Infidel Tiger

    Boomers are beset by guilt. They are a pitiful people who lived off the sweat and blood of their forebears and indebted two to three generations into the future with their unbridled narcissism.

    Their horrendous and painful deaths will gladden all our hearts.

  70. Bruce in WA

    …were you not saying?

    Indeed I was. And so much more fun than working!

    We were so poor when I was a kid, if I woke up in the morning without an erection, I had nothing to play with all day!

  71. Gab

    Heavens there’s a massive whining going on here tonight. Which generation is doing that?

  72. Rev. Archibald

    Clint Eastwood isn’t a boomer.

  73. Gab

    Whining so loud I thought I was at Sydney airport.

  74. Bruce in WA

    indebted two to three generations into the future

    Is that all?

    Memo to self: Work harder.

  75. Makka

    But to feel malevolence for the victims of your contemporaries, who you were not able to suppress…that’s just fuzzy thinking.

    Emotive stuff.

    You actually mean boomers must accept the vitriol and vile abuse hurled by whingers without complaint or defence. Yeah, nah.

  76. Infidel Tiger

    Eastwood and Bradman were not Boomers you complete idiot.

    Stewart and Spielberg are turgid and rancid pretenders beloved bythe worst people on earth; Boomers.

  77. Snoopy

    Snoopy, answer this critique with something substantive

    Well for a start Australia isn’t the US and the Woodstock you reference is not a village outside Cowra.

  78. Oh come on

    Look, it’s all well and good for Bruce and Zulu to recollect their past. I have no problem with that. I’m sure they went through that. But they were moulded by the expectations and structures of earlier generations. It’s a historical fact that their own contemporaries tore down those structures and rubbished those expectations, however. I am not asking for Zulu and Bruce and Snoopy to be the whipping boys for their peers. But I am asking them to not be so critical of the weaknesses of subsequent generations that their own generation instilled in their offspring.

  79. Bruce in WA

    Clint Eastwood isn’t a boomer.

    We made him an honorary one of us.

    Now get off my lawn!

  80. Infidel Tiger

    Heavens there’s a massive whining going on here tonight. Which generation is doing that?

    For the first time in their care and responsibility free lives, Boomers must be set straight.

  81. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    We were so poor when I was a kid, if I woke up in the morning without an erection, I had nothing to play with all day!

    I grew up in rural poverty on the Western Australia sand plain country. We lived in a tent, and had to borrow money, to be considered poor.

    The Australian military gave me the first new pair of shoes I ever owned.

  82. Oh come on

    You actually mean boomers must accept the vitriol and vile abuse hurled by whingers without complaint or defence.

    No, Makka. I’m saying you as an individual ought to be able to look at the damage wrought by your contemporaries with an objective eye. I don’t hold you personally responsible. However, if you want to lay into subsequent generations for their perceived uselessness or whatever, I will remind you of the incalculable damage that your generation did. Maybe it will give you pause to reflect on the veracity of your accusations.

  83. Fisky

    Haha!

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    40s41 seconds ago

    People who lost money when the Stock Market went down 350 points based on the False and Dishonest reporting of Brian Ross of @ABC News (he has been suspended), should consider hiring a lawyer and suing ABC for the damages this bad reporting has caused – many millions of dollars!

  84. Oh come on

    Get off my lawn! And pay for my pension and healthcare!

  85. Bruce in WA

    But I am asking them to not be so critical of the weaknesses of subsequent generations that their own generation instilled in their offspring.

    Ummm, I am not my brother’s keeper. I brought my kids up with the same standards, morals and ethics impressed into me by my parents and my grandparents. They took responsibility for their own lives and worked their bloody arses off to get whatever they have today.

    And fuck you and the horse you rode in on if you want to make an issue of it. Take the piss out of me all you want; try putting shit on my kids or grandkids and it’s a whole new ballgame.

  86. Oh come on

    That is the Boomer mantra. The Greatest generation, in contrast, earnt the right to tell kids to get off their lawns.

  87. zyconoclast

    Two points:

    1. Operations are far more gruelling than selection, so it simply lowers operational capability. The course is not a boys club ritual designed to see if you ‘fit the mould’. It is a genuine test to determine if you have the physical and mental attributes to do the jobs you’ll be sent to complete.

    2. The bigger danger here is not the prospect of getting females in the unit (most wouldn’t want to do the job after they experience it for the first time). The real risk associated with ‘a levelled playing field’, is getting sub-standard males.

    The purpose is to lower the standards so the ADF is no longer capable of doing its job.
    David Morrison and his followers are just the most obvious examples of the Cultural Marxist takeover of our institutions.

  88. Oh come on

    You are confused, Bruce. It is you putting shit on your kids and grandkids when you whine about ‘generation snowflake’.

  89. Bruce in WA

    And pay for my pension and healthcare!

    Fuck you. I saved for my retirement; I draw no pension. And I pay a fucking arm and a leg for HBF.

    Does it sound like I’m getting a bit pissed off?

    It fucking better!

  90. Bruce in WA

    You are confused, Bruce. It is you putting shit on your kids and grandkids when you whine about ‘generation snowflake’.

    Really, SFB? Show me one whine of mine about “generation snowflake”. (I don’t even know what that is!)

  91. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    There is a lot in that one sentence. I think you need to break your sentence structure down in to discrete points.

    Mwrddyn, glad I stayed up late to check back thread. You are right, absolutely. When I’m writing such complex stuff I lose directness. I know it can be a problem. I can easily fix this though. Mostly at present I am just getting down the ideas. Then I’ll edit and tighten.

    Occasionally though, I feel a little slippage away from staccato is justified.
    Fundamentally, I’m a lyricist. 🙂

    I can’t bear to read Annie Proulx because of her staccato sentences, drilling at me like bullet points.

  92. Oh come on

    Infidel Tiger
    #2574458, posted on December 3, 2017 at 11:39 pm
    The cornered Boomer always lashes out rather than refuting the facts around their awfulness.

    You are making an effort to prove Tige’s point, aren’t you?

    See my comment at 12.15am

  93. Knuckle Dragger

    Watched the remainder of the cricket tonight at a local establishment.

    I too, bow my head and say that I was wrong. Very wrong to have heaped so much shit on S. Marsh. Today was a brilliant innings crafted under difficult circumstances.

    He can stay at no.6. Only injury will get him dropped before he’s ready, or he retires.

    Sorry jump, no dick eating for me though. That’s for those festive types.

  94. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Ummm, I am not my brother’s keeper. I brought my kids up with the same standards, morals and ethics impressed into me by my parents and my grandparents. They took responsibility for their own lives and worked their bloody arses off to get whatever they have today.

    The next generation were told outright – if you want to go on to University, study medicine, agriculture, commerce, engineering, or a useful degree. Family will look after you. There won’t be a HECS debt – if you want to study underwater lesbian fingerpainting, fine, you go it alone.

  95. Oh come on

    I’m Steve from Brisbane? That’s a good one!

  96. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Fuck you. I saved for my retirement; I draw no pension. And I pay a fucking arm and a leg for HBF.

    Wot Bruce said.

  97. Rev. Archibald

    Before boomers:
    Air travel was romantic. Then they clumped about all over the globe and fucked it up.
    Sport was a passion. Then they overpaid athletes and fucked it up.
    Education involved discipline and order. Then they made open classrooms and fucked it up.
    Nurses were hot. Then they hired the male nurse and fucked it up.
    Music was good. Then they invented rap and fucked it all up.
    Cars were cool. Then they made everything safe and boring and fucked it all up.
    Clothes were smart. Then they bummed around in jeans and fucked it all up.

  98. Bruce in WA

    I saw your “comment”.

    Mate, I worked for everything I have. Perhaps I’m not a typical “boomer”; I don’t know. But I do know my wife and I went damn well without a lot of things for 20-odd years while we educated our kids. I remember 75-hour weeks … without overtime. Why? Because I felt I owed it to the my peers and my bosses. And this while we were paying 17+% interest on a modest 3 x 1.

    I don’t have anything to “refute”. I accept no blame for what we’ve worked for (and it was “we”; always, my wife and I together).

    As far as I’m concerned, the boomers’ biggest sin is making later generations believe they are entitled to everything we had after half a lifetime of working.

    I don’t bag the later generations; they have different problems from those we faced. But they sure as hell aren’t going to surmount them by heaping shit on those who went before.

    And on that note, because this thread has turned sour, I bid you all goodnight.

  99. Makka

    I will remind you of the incalculable damage that your generation did.

    Don’t worry. When your generation gets done with gaynazim , gender queerness and Safe Schools, your kids will be equally thankful.

  100. Oh come on

    I brought my kids up with the same standards, morals and ethics impressed into me by my parents and my grandparents.

    That’s great. No, it really is. My Boomer parents (I think) did much the same, and I am trying to instil these kinds of values into my own children. However, these are not distinctively Boomer values. They don’t characterise the Boomer generation. They characterise generations prior. The values that characterise the Boomer generation are the values that have resulted in the colossal clusterfuck we find ourselves in today. You can be a member of the Boomer generation and have no truck with those values and can rightly and fairly distance yourself from them. However, you don’t get to diagnose what ails society through a generational lens without attributing primary blame to members of your own generation. If you have not done this, then I am not talking to you, I have no bone to pick with you, and I don’t know why you are on the defensive wrt anything I have stated here.

  101. Bruce in WA

    Before I go …

    SFB

    Good Aussie colloquialism

    Shit For Brains

  102. Infidel Tiger

    Fuck you. I saved for my retirement; I draw no pension. And I pay a fucking arm and a leg for HBF.

    Pretty easy to do when you were gifted all the wealth and freedom you could imagine by the greatest generation. And in return let’s peruse what you have left the next generations…

    You disgusting Xunts.

  103. Oh come on

    When your generation gets done with gaynazim , gender queerness and Safe Schools

    These are the values that characterise the Boomer generation.

  104. zyconoclast

    Before boomers:
    Cars were cool. Then they made everything safe and boring and fucked it all up.

    The cars were crap.
    The right modern cars are fast, fun to drive, steer where you want to go, stop when you want it to and are very reliable.

  105. Oh come on

    Bruce, you’re all right, but you pay a three figure sum to go to a Kevin Bloody Wilson concert at Burswood and think you’re having a flash night out. Good night.

  106. Infidel Tiger

    When your generation gets done with gaynazim , gender queerness and Safe Schools

    Every single one of those ideas is from Boomers. You people are depraved.

  107. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    As far as I’m concerned, the boomers’ biggest sin is making later generations believe they are entitled to everything we had after half a lifetime of working.

    That’s well said. The next generations want the investment portfolio’s, the financial independence, and all the trappings, as their right in their thirties, that the baby boomers spent most of their lives working towards.

    As a baby boomer, self funded retiree, good night, all,

  108. Bruce in WA

    Pretty easy to do when you were gifted all the wealth and freedom you could imagine by the greatest generation. And in return let’s peruse what you have left the next generations…

    Wealth? FMD. When I was born my dad was earning 17/6 ($1.75) a week as an apprentice printer. When he finally completed his apprenticeship, he was given a ‘rise” … to tradesman’s wages … 21/- ($2.10) a week. He told me I couldn’t go to uni, because he couldn’t afford it. I had to get a job to “help out” at home.

    Freedom? I left school in December 67. I started work in January 67. I was still only 17. I worked non-stop to 66. I only retired because the company was sold out from under us.

    What did I leave the next generation? One of my kids is a biochemist; a specialist toxicologist. The other is a lawyer. They need nothing from us except our love and support.

  109. squawkbox

    Fact is, the faults of the boomers can be laid at the feet of the Greatest Generation. They didn’t want to see their kids living off rats during a depression then spending their best years killing nazis and japs. They overreacted and the result was total overindulgence.

  110. Oh come on

    You inherited it, Zulu. You said as much in your recollection of the time when you were a young lad and your grandparents took you to Perth in the 1960s. You yourself stated that, looking back, you were there because your grandfather was setting you up for your self funded retirement. Incidentally, why do you always mention that? It’s rather strange. Ok, you’re a self-funded retiree. Great. Lucky your grandfather was far-sighted enough to set you up with all that wealth.

  111. Rev. Archibald

    Boomers also fucked these things:
    Architecture. Fucking look at Federation Square. Fucking look at it.
    Sex. Not really that exciting anymore after you saturated the whole internet with it. Dirty bastards.
    Modelling. Your generation decided models should be seven foot high pre-pubescent boys.
    Women. After spending their youth in a commune washing your jocks while you laid about smoking dope and inventing internet porn the women now hate us. You arseholes.

  112. Bruce in WA

    Bruce, you’re all right, but you pay a three figure sum to go to a Kevin Bloody Wilson concert at Burswood and think you’re having a flash night out. Good night.

    Bzzzzt! Kevin Bloody Wilson is actually Dennis Vincent Bryant. He and I have been close friends since 1978. I ran his company (Both Barrels Music) for six and a half years. And no, I don’t pay to go to his concerts. And no, I don’t particularly approve of his music.

    Oh, and I hate Burswood.

  113. Infidel Tiger

    Fact is, the faults of the boomers can be laid at the feet of the Greatest Generation. They didn’t want to see their kids living off rats during a depression then spending their best years killing nazis and japs. They overreacted and the result was total overindulgence.

    True. Thankfully the greatest generation are all but dead and in a few short years so will the Boomers be. Then we can all move on from this generational nightmare.

  114. Bruce in WA

    Then we can all move on from this generational nightmare.

    Yep … and in a few years your generation will be getting shit heaped on it by the new generation for all your perceived ills and faults.

    Welcome to my world.

  115. Oh come on

    Just home from watching me old mate Kevin Bloody Wilson perform at the Crown Casino Theatre.

    Sell-out crowd (or near enough).

    He had a few things to say — and a song to sing — about Muslims.

    I have never, ever — and I worked within the industry for 7 years — heard such an overwhelmingly positive response from an audience. It MUST have been heard outside the theatre.

    But of course, the audience was just rednecks and bogans … /sarc

    Yes, they were rednecks and bogans – if you “ran his company” you’d know this is his core demographic –
    and you were amongst them. At Burswood.

    But you didn’t pay to be there, which I guess means something…?

  116. Ubique

    As a boomer I completely missed out on all the peace, love, dove, Hare Krishna stuff; and the dope or other mind altering drugs. My mates and I were far too busy learning the intricacies of the SLR, GPMG M60, M72 LAW, M79, and the Charlie Gutsache. The short back and sides meant there was no chance of sampling hippiedom even when on leave.

  117. Infidel Tiger

    Generation x,y and the millenials are all fairly close. I would start atoning for your multitude of trespasses now if I were you. The best life advice I can give you is to never fuck with the people who are going to be providing your palliative and aged care – BTW, that will be all the people you screwed over. Enjoy!

  118. Oh come on

    The Greatest generation had just fought a world war – their parents before them. They had literally ridden the world of German imperialistic chauvinism, its bastard offspring that was Nazism And Japanese fascist imperialism, And contained communism into a space where it could ultimately be defeated. That’s a fucking lot for two generations to achieve. Oh, and they had to endure the Great Depression as parents or children. Yeah, they may have been affected by their experiences. What excuse do the Boomers have for throwing everything their parents ultimately held dear under the bus?

  119. Oh come on

    Those “And”s were supposed to be in caps. Thanks, autocorrect.

  120. Makka

    So, when you boil it down, the whinging X Y and millenial petals here crying like an infant for a teat are just jealous. Envious. The fking hypocrites just can’t wait to get their hands on the wealth boomers will bequeath to them. Which none of them will reject, not a single one.

    “Thankfully the greatest generation are all but dead and in a few short years so will the Boomers be.”
    It could be argued that pissweak little poseurs like you are already dead, not having ever really lived if your long whingeing torment is to be believed.

  121. Bruce in WA

    But you didn’t pay to be there, which I guess means something…?

    Yes, it means I get free admission to his shows. Which I go to maybe once every five years. Because he’s a close friend.

    Yes, I did “run his company” OCO (why the quotes; I’ve already said that I did). As for rednecks and bogans … I’ve seen politicians, titled people, magnates (can’t think of a better word), Dalkeith people at his shows. And we know he’s followed by at least one Royal (no, I won’t say … but you can guess).

    And yep, we have the toothless and tatt brigade. Do you have something against them? Are they not quite good enough for you? I find some of them hard going (as does he, BTW), but they are just everyday Australians.

    So your implied slur can just go and fuck itself, because I’m not in the mood for it any longer.

  122. Rev. Archibald

    Other things you fucked:
    Politics (Clintons)
    Religion (radical priests)
    Film (sorry arse remakes of classics and also Avatar)
    Rainbows (rainbows used to be magical, now they’re gay)
    Beer (blokes making yeast from fluff they found in their belly buttons)
    Food (you replaced fat with sugar now everyone is obese and can’t take a decent shit)

  123. C.L.

    Re mention of The Beatles previous page, yes they were awful.
    Paul McCartney virtually reeks of vegan flatulence, Lennon was just a hateful semi-sociopath, George Harrison was a sanctimonious Hare Krishna bore. Ringo is a bit of a lad and not too bad.

  124. Oh come on

    Work yourself into more of a lather, Brucie. You were supposed to be in bed 30 mins ago, though. You did say that.

  125. Oh come on

    the whinging X Y and millenial petals here crying like an infant for a teat are just jealous

    No. Your parents created the teats as a safety net of last resort. You have made fixing yourselves to them into a generation-wide lifestyle.

    Shame.

  126. Bruce in WA

    Work yourself into more of a lather, Brucie. You were supposed to be in bed 30 mins ago, though. You did say that.

    Indeed I did. But I just like poking halfwits a little more before I go.

    Incidentally, “Brucie” is a term of endearment to me (long story). So if you’re trying to use it to denigrate or rile me, you’re waaaaay off track.

  127. Infidel Tiger

    Paul McCartney’s Wings, MASH, AIDS, fondue and hundreds of trillions of debt will be the Boomers legacy.

    An horrendous generation who can’t even defend their own avarice and idiocy without wanting to neck themselves for what they have wrought.

  128. Bruce in WA

    A “lather”?

    Nah, enjoying a glass of Adelaide Hills SB with a few white corn chips, in front of a fan, listening to the rain outside.

    But dream on.

  129. Bruce in WA

    Now it really is bedtime.

  130. Makka

    Your simply a hypocrite , OCO. You’ll take every single dollar your nasty boomer parents will bequeath you after you spend hours on here running them down. Sick little petal.

  131. Rev. Archibald

    You also fucked up the family home.
    The quarter acre is now about eighth of an acre and leads straight into gridlock.
    Also I blame you for tattoos, road rage and hoodies.

  132. Rev. Archibald

    When I did my apprenticeship the only people with tattoos were sailors and criminals. And you knew in either case to watch your step least they root you up the arse.
    Now every idiot has them, and you don’t know who wants your backside.

  133. Oh come on

    The values that characterise the Boomer generation are the values that have resulted in the colossal clusterfuck we find ourselves in today. You can be a member of the Boomer generation and have no truck with those values and can rightly and fairly distance yourself from them

    Makka, I gave you ample opportunity to distance yourself from the Boomer zeitgeist here. You can do so and I’ll stand with you in a heartbeat.

    But when you say that members of subsequent generations are merely jealous of Boomers because they want to feed at the execrable trough the Boomers created, well that just reaffirms that you are fully on board with those awful Boomer values that are so antithetical to generations prior to yours.

  134. Oh come on

    Your simply a hypocrite , OCO. You’ll take every single dollar your nasty boomer parents will bequeath you after you spend hours on here running them down. Sick little petal.

    Now you are being deliberately obtuse. Try addressing what I wrote, not what you wish I had written.

  135. Makka

    Your parents created the teats as a safety net of last resort. You have made fixing yourselves to them into a generation-wide lifestyle.

    Never used it. Ever. Paid a hell of a lot in taxes to fund parasites though. If you’ve drawn child support or childcare allowances then you certainly have. Who’s on the teat ?

  136. Oh come on

    These Boomer types are awfully defensive, aren’t they? Again, I’m happy to discern the individual from the era their contemporaries defined. I’m not willing to lie about how history unfolded, how our culture was eroded, and who was responsible.

  137. Makka

    well that just reaffirms that you are fully on board with those awful Boomer values that are so antithetical to generations prior to yours.

    Waffle all you like .My values, imperfect as they may be, will stand for me and my family. I don’t bludge on anyone, never have done.

    I’m calling you out as a hypocrite which I can tell by your lame response is bang on target.

  138. Oh come on

    Makka, again, good for you. However, the system as it stands is the product of your generation. I’m quite happy to stop discussing this as a matter of intergenerational warfare, as long as I don’t hear a goddamn peep out of you wrt what you see as the deficiencies of kids these days.

  139. Oh come on

    Where has my response been “lame”? I have provided ample reasoning for my position, which you have ignored. Again, you ought to deal with what I state rather than what you’d like me to have stated.

  140. Oh come on

    That’s not waffle, incidentally. I have made a pointed critique. The fact that you dismiss it as waffle says more about the paucity of your own position than it does anything that I have written thus far.

  141. Oh come on

    Right, bed time. Off to dream of an impossible future unencumbered by the mountain of liabilities run up by ageing Boomers that me and my children and their children will have to pay for.

  142. C.L.

    Trump goes after FBI crime family:

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
    2h2 hours ago

    After years of Comey, with the phony and dishonest Clinton investigation (and more), running the FBI, its reputation is in Tatters – worst in History! But fear not, we will bring it back to greatness.

  143. Makka

    I’m not willing to lie about how history unfolded, how our culture was eroded, and who was responsible.

    How fking noble of you. You are willing however to lie to your parents by concealing how lowly your cherished opinion is of them , because they are those terrible boomer people. Those rotten boomer people who no doubt sacrificed and saved , worked the hours so that ungrateful little xunts like you might have a chance at a better more comfortable life than they had. Such awful people we are. From whom you’ll happily take every filthy dollar you can.

  144. Bruce in WA

    Right, bed time. Off to dream of an impossible future unencumbered by the mountain of liabilities run up by ageing Boomers that me and my children and their children will have to pay for.

    I and my children and their children…

  145. Makka

    A top former intelligence official believes there is evidence that Labor senator Sam Dastyari was deliberately targeted by the China government to advance its interests in Australia.

    “There is evidence that he may have been recruited as an agent of influence,” said Ross Babbage, a former head of strategic analysis at the Office of National Assessments, the government’s peak intelligence adviser. “That’s my belief.”

    Being an “agent of influence” doesn’t mean the 34-year-old senator was spying for Beijing. Instead, it refers to a global campaign to build long-term support for China and its policies, and collect information, around the world through business and political relationships.

    http://www.afr.com/news/politics/sam-dastyari-is-a-chinese-agent-of-influence-exintelligence-chief-20171203-gzxktb#ixzz50DCcDzzk

    Yeah, nah. He’s a low life traitor like so many on the left.

    Now we’ll watch as Turdball makes a complete hash of this gift. When Mal’s finished with him, Sam will be a AOTY contender.

  146. OCO is being perfectly reasonable here. He has gone out of his way to distinguish individual members of the Boomer generation that were faifthful and hardworking (his parents, yourself, etc.) and thereby did not exemplify the spirit of the Boomer generation, from the Boomer generation itself. Everything you rally against was instituted by Boomers exercising their cultural and political power, and right now it is at it greatest height. It will wane from herein but lets not pretend that the latter did not bring about the cultural revolution and the economic debt that we constantly highlight at the Cat.

  147. Mark A

    Makka
    #2574581, posted on December 4, 2017 at 2:28 am
    Now we’ll watch as Turdball makes a complete hash of this gift. When Mal’s finished with him, Sam will be a AOTY contender.

    Therein lies the tragedy, nothing will come out of this. What many don’t realise is, that there are many ways to betray one’s country.
    Some even look innocent on the surface.

    Information need not be of a military type, most of the time our opponents are more familiar with those than the top brass.

  148. Mark A

    dover_beach
    #2574584, posted on December 4, 2017 at 2:48 am

    Everything you rally against was instituted by Boomers exercising their cultural and political power, and right now it is at it greatest height.

    I understand you live in the US?
    Well, here in OZ we didn’t have a great deal of debt until 2007, we had a surplus.
    A lot of useful infrastructure had been created before that, prime example the Snowy storage and power generation.
    The Murry -Darling irrigation scheme and lots of others.

    I would put it to you that the rot set in when the millennials voted in politicians to their liking, like the greens.
    Remember the white elephant water desalination plants?

    But I would put all of this aside as a totally useless exercise. All generations do things as they see fit at the time. Easy to be smart after.

    That’s why I’m so much against politicized teachers and teaching, young people have but the one chance in life to learn.

  149. Boris

    I have read a few pieces of this Milo and it appears that all he is doing all the time is trying to be as outrageous as possible to shock and provoke people.

    This is somewhat similar to many people on cat, who, while rightly frustrated with the level of PC and virtue signaling, are taking the other extreme. Sometimes instinctively and genuinely, sometimes just for the fun of it.

    I think this is a wrong approach, which will give the libertarian and conservative movmeents a bad name. Milo himself appears to be just acting. I won’t be surprised if tomorrow he changes his tune 180degreess. I admit that playing by the left’s rules won’t get conservatives anywhere either. A balancing act is to be found.by exposing the stupidity of the left without bec9mjng their mirror images.

  150. Mater

    Boris,
    See attached video. He freely explains his methods and motivations.
    The fact that it wasn’t aired speaks ample.

  151. Mark A

    Mater
    Listening to him, I changed my mind, the man is of substance.
    He may be a showman, so be it, he is making money while the going is good.
    Can’t fault him for that.

  152. Bruce of Newcastle

    I have read a few pieces of this Milo and it appears that all he is doing all the time is trying to be as outrageous as possible to shock and provoke people.

    No Boris, he is trying to shock and provoke lefties.

    Every time they call him a nazi, a fascist and a racist (despite his partner) he wins. They look like the hypocrites they are. The louder they get the better, since more people get fed up with lefty religiosity and break free of the thrall of the ABC, MSM and political correctness.

    And he sells books and makes money too. In a world of welfare and kulak-bashing that is yet another great example.

  153. Tom

    Such slim pickings today, being Sunday in the US, I woke up and fell asleep again.

    Knight
    .

  154. Shy Ted

    All this talk of generations. To take a trip back in time go ad see Goodbye Christopher Robin.

  155. Mark A

    Just in case you were wondering, it’s snowing here today, had about an inch.
    Not happy about it, it’s nice on the slopes, but not on the roads.
    We are coming home on the 11th and I’d like an unimpeded road to the airport.

  156. rickw

    I have read a few pieces of this Milo and it appears that all he is doing all the time is trying to be as outrageous as possible to shock and provoke people.

    No Boris, he is trying to shock and provoke lefties.

    Clearly doing a good job to, has upset Boris.

  157. Tel

    As far as I’m concerned, the boomers’ biggest sin is making later generations believe they are entitled to everything we had after half a lifetime of working.

    You don’t need to do anything… school system and government mandated curriculum will do that for you.

    The challenge is to deprogram them faster than the schools can fill their heads with SJW nonsense.

  158. rickw

    Thanks Tom! Love Garrisons!

  159. Bruce of Newcastle

    Jonova has an awesome post up on the BoM bomb.

    Massive, unprecedented, 10 out of 10, life threatening storm hits, drops 2 inches on Melbourne

    Wince! The pics are marvellous too.

  160. feelthebern

    Headline at news.com.au.

    Sacked Serbian World Cup qualifying coach Slavoljub Muslin linked to Socceroos gig

    Slavoljub Muslin.
    Please Lord, please make this guy the Socceroos coach.

  161. Herodotus

    Graham Richardson has an article in the Oz about having another tilt at the Republic.
    Every time someone does this they need to be told that “the people have spoken”, but if we can have another go at the SSM question after it bcomes more obviously problematic, then they can have a go at the republic again.
    But if no second vote on ssm, no second vote on the republic.
    (For some reason, unusually, there are no comments allowed under that article – not when I looked at it, anyway)

  162. Mark A

    feelthebern
    #2574625, posted on December 4, 2017 at 6:45 am
    Sacked Serbian World Cup qualifying coach Slavoljub Muslin linked to Socceroos gig

    Slavoljub Muslin.
    Please Lord, please make this guy the Socceroos coach.

    Amen to that, the Serbs know not what they are doing.

  163. Tom

    Hero World Challenge, New Providence, Bahamas: Woods, Tiger — 69, 68, 75, 68 (10th).
    Tiger Woods now 15-1 for 2018 Masters after opening at 100-1.

  164. rickw

    Fact is, the faults of the boomers can be laid at the feet of the Greatest Generation. They didn’t want to see their kids living off rats during a depression then spending their best years killing nazis and japs. They overreacted and the result was total overindulgence.

    Not a bad assessment. I visited an older mates home some time ago. His dad had fought in WWII (on the wrong side). When they got an indoor toilet. The first thing his old man did was rebuild the outhouse as a “Sheriffs Office” to further enhance his son’s Wild West play!

  165. JC

    The appreciation potential could be enormous.. bigger than bitcoin.

    CARACAS (Reuters) – President Nicolas Maduro said on Sunday that Venezuela will launch a cryptocurrency to combat what the leftist leader says is a financial “blockade” against the crisis-hit nation spurred by U.S. sanctions.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/venezuela-launch-cryptocurrency-fight-blockade-maduro-193632510.html

  166. Bruce of Newcastle

    Some headlines I read this morning, with translations to English.

    Obama In Paris: ´We Have A Temporary Absence Of American Leadership´ (Lucianne)
    Interregnum between President Obamas.

    Obama on climate change: ‘A pause in American leadership’ (CD)
    How dare they overturn my munificence!

    Obama Says He Can’t Have A Discussion With People Who Say ‘Climate Is Not Changing’ (CD)
    Which is no one.

    Obama jabs Trump In Paris climate change speech (Fox)
    Here I am in Paris surrounded by thousands of wonderful sycophants.

    Obama vacation home hits the market for $17.75 million (Fox)
    Hmm, Paris is nicer.

    Shut up, Obama (Surber)
    No comment…

  167. Mater

    Listening to him, I changed my mind, the man is of substance.

    Same, same.

  168. JC

    Obama vacation home hits the market for $17.75 million (Fox)

    That’s a little dishonest reporting, Bruce. The Kenyan rented or was loaned the home for a summer vacation. He doesn’t own it.

  169. Tel

    That Shiva 4 Senate guy is the real deal. Engineering background, plenty of achievements, cares about the US land of opportunity. The optics are brilliant: real Indian vs fake Indian.

  170. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger

    #2574435, posted on December 3, 2017 at 11:23 pm

    Be careful Bruce. In the not too distant future we will be taking many Boomers on cruises and none will be coming back.

    I don’t think I would sign up for the Voyage of the Damned.
    Also, I’d appreciate it if you can conduct any debates about mass euthanasia of baby-boomers before 8:30 in the evening to allow the self-interested to participate.

  171. JC

    Unable to extract money from the big tech multinationals, the ATO does the next best thing. They’re hitting the burbs.

    The Australian Taxation Office has launched an audit blitz on neighbourhoods across the nation with high concentrations of cash-only businesses, including restaurants, hairdressers and beauty parlours.

    The blitz is part of a covert war on the black economy that has ­already yielded $200 million.

    The area-by-area blitz — which includes Sydney’s Cabramatta and Chinatown, Melbourne’s Glen Waverley, Brisbane’s Sunnybank, Adelaide’s Glenelg and Perth’s CBD — was initiated at the behest of Tax Commissioner Chris Jordan.

    During his interview series with The Australian, Mr Jordan has revealed the sneak attack on the black economy was a personal initiative, as he attempts to stem the huge leakage of cash from the tax system.

    “I’ve pushed this myself,” the commissioner said.

    “What we’re doing is hitting every single state: different cities, different areas.

    ‘‘We walk in through the front door and sometimes they think we’re from immigration, so there are people running out the back door.”

    The Australian can today reveal the full list of key areas Mr Jordan has targeted so far, many with large immigrant communities where the use of cash is widely preferred for transactions.

  172. Rev. Archibald

    Good point LL.
    Remember people: the compulsory boomer euthanasia meeting- after bedtime.

  173. Mater

    Remember people: the compulsory boomer euthanasia meeting- after bedtime.

    7:30?

  174. Tel

    The Australian Taxation Office has launched an audit blitz on neighbourhoods across the nation with high concentrations of cash-only businesses, including restaurants, hairdressers and beauty parlours.

    Those greedy kulak hairdressers need to be taught a lesson in sharing!

  175. Rev. Archibald

    An Italian Public Prosecutor has exonerated Dr. Silvana De Mari of charges of defamation after the physician declared that homosexuality is a pathology.
    The LGBT advocacy group Torino Pride brought the accusation of defamation against Dr. De Mari, alleging that she had effectively defamed the character of gays by declaring homosexuality to be an illness.

    After months of deliberation, the Public Prosecutor’s Office has ruled that the statements by the 64-year-old doctor and author did not constitute defamation because of the impossibility of identifying the individuals who would have possibly suffered injury from the claim.

    ..
    -Breitbart.

  176. rickw

    Unable to extract money from the big tech multinationals, the ATO does the next best thing. They’re hitting the burbs.

    If they manage to dry up cash in the traditional cash business areas, most of them will fold.

  177. feelthebern

    Also in the Tele today.
    Diggers to have hookers flown in to reduce the stress.
    How many Cats who served will be signing on again?

  178. Bruce of Newcastle

    One for JC before he invests in Bolivarian Bitcoins.

    VENEZUELA’S MASSIVE CONTRIBUTIONS CONTINUE (Blair)

    In a purge as dramatic as that of Saudi Arabia or the Hollywood-media industrial complex, Venezuela has booted the most powerful names in its oil industry, with 65 officials arrested for corruption. Unlike the other purges, this one isn’t about change or lawbreaking – just gang warfare to consolidate President Nicolas Maduro’s socialist grip on power.

    A press release from Nov. 29 says Asdrubal Chavez is now running the U.S. operation, and many of the CITGO officials are now detained in Caracas. Chavez is a cousin of Venezuela’s late president, Hugo Chavez …

    Yep, Maduro has appointed a cousin of Chavez to run the only hard currency source in Venezuela.

    Oddly their oil industry started to decline after 20,000 oil wukkas went on strike and Chavez sacked them. He replaced them all with Party members, who didn’t know much about oil refining. The biggest refinery in Venezuela then exploded killing and injuring hundreds. Most recently even the Chinese have been complaining that crude shipments have been full of water and dirt.

  179. Tom

    MOBILE, Alabama — Conservative Republican Judge Roy Moore is steaming toward victory in Alabama’s U.S. Senate special election on Dec. 12, and as it appears less and less likely that radical leftist Democrat Doug Jones has a chance Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has backed off his ardent criticisms of Moore.

    Appearing on ABC News’ This Week with George Stephanopoulos on Sunday, McConnell dropped his previous call for Moore to “step aside” as the GOP nominee for the U.S. Senate—backing down into his new position which is that the people of Alabama should decide who wins.

    “Well, I think — we’re going to let the people of Alabama decide a week from Tuesday who they want to send to the Senate. And then we’ll address the matter appropriately,” McConnell said, insinuating that he would back a Senate Ethics Committee investigation of the allegations against Moore when Moore wins on Dec. 12. “I have already said in the past that I thought this was a matter that would have to be considered by the committee. Ultimately, it would be up to them to make that decision. And they’ll make it, depending upon whether Judge Moore ends up coming to the Senate.”

    McConnell’s new position on the issue is vastly different from what he said plainly just a few weeks ago regarding Moore: “I think he should step aside.”

  180. JC

    The tax reform was a yuge win for Trump.

  181. John Constantine

    Julie Bishop refuses that after an entire she has dedicated to flying over fly speck pacific island nations
    On her way to glamorous cocktail parties held by looting cartels in glamorous world capitals,

    Now being forced by the Trumpening to do something about China bribing the pacific to vote to overthrow the West.

    Can the Trumpnado even blow corruption opportunities from bribe magnets like the black handed turnbullites?.

    What a brilliant idea to drain the Julie Bishop swamp.

  182. egg_

    Be careful Bruce. In the not too distant future we will be taking many Boomers on cruises and none will be coming back.

    Is Grigs the Purser?

  183. egg_

    Now being forced by the Trumpening to do something about China bribing the pacific to vote to overthrow the West.

    Paid Sino Taqiyya from pr0n dwarf?

  184. Dick is now a liability to the Chicoms, ALP and unions (BRIM)
    Anyone want the job as Dick Dastardly’s food taster?

  185. I understand you live in the US?
    Well, here in OZ we didn’t have a great deal of debt until 2007, we had a surplus.
    A lot of useful infrastructure had been created before that, prime example the Snowy storage and power generation.
    The Murry -Darling irrigation scheme and lots of others.

    I don’t think people here understand the complaint. Those two schemes weren’t instituted by the Boomers but by their predecessors. The Boomers did not exercise any cultural or political power until the late 1960s and then it was only that of a vocal minority that was increasingly demanding and influential (they were simply a much larger cohort of people because their parents had a much high fertility rate they their predecessors or their descendants). Boomers were entering the cultural and political institutions by the late 70s and early 80s and more or less won them over by the late 90s. Just consider how the cultural norms of the protesters of ’68, either in Australia, in the US, or Europe, were mainstreamed by the 1990s.

    I would put it to you that the rot set in when the millennials voted in politicians to their liking, like the greens.
    Remember the white elephant water desalination plants?

    Millennials were only entering the schools and universties in the 90s/00s, where they were being taught by Boomers. If they are voting for ridiculous political schemes and policies it is because they reflect the values and interests taught to them by Boomers in schools, at universities, and in the media.

    All generations do things as they see fit at the time. Easy to be smart after.

    Sure, but I think the Boomers were the first to think that the cultural and sexual norms of the past could be jettisoned without any loss.

  186. egg_

    How fking noble of you. You are willing however to lie to your parents by concealing how lowly your cherished opinion is of them , because they are those terrible boomer people. Those rotten boomer people who no doubt sacrificed and saved , worked the hours so that ungrateful little xunts like you might have a chance at a better more comfortable life than they had. Such awful people we are. From whom you’ll happily take every filthy dollar you can.

    Sounds like the 3-generational thrift/spend thingy – Gen cupcake’s spendthrift will have to be made up for by the next “Great Generation*” doing the hard yards.

    *The most subsidised generation in history, apparently (ex war service grants, etc.)

  187. egg_

    Anyone want the job as Dick Dastardly’s food taster?

    Earl Grey with a taint of Polonium?

  188. Farmer Gez

    Animal welfare on farms, what about farmer welfare?
    Two reasonably young, lean and fit farmers I know have had strokes in the last month. Too much pressure, too many hours and too many government employees who have made it their life’s work to put as many financial and regulatory hurdles in front of farmers as they can.
    I received a half threatening legal letter from the council the other day because I didn’t register the nearly ten year old Collie bitch, who spends her time annoying my wife in the garden.
    How lucky am I that the council would allow me time to rectify this terrible error or the full weight of their fat arsed staff would come down on me, when they can drag themselves away from the bistros and coffee/cake shops.

  189. John Constantine

    Sky had a small grab about a Manila meeting that suggested Trump, Japan, Australia and non China pacific interests would look at providing options to the corrupt bribery deals China is buying political power in the pacific with.

    Their Bishop is the Sam dastardly of their liberal party, and has never damaged Chinese or united nations agendas in an entire quisling career.

    The whole idea of Bishop treading island sand, waving island flies and drinking kava instead of champagne is too delicious for words.

    Or reality.

    She will fight for China against Trump because that is where the money and tone and nice things are.

    Comrades.

  190. Zatara

    That’s a little dishonest reporting, Bruce. The Kenyan rented or was loaned the home for a summer vacation. He doesn’t own it.

    JC

    It seems a weak attempt to mimic the “George Washington Slept Here” advertising meme.

    Driven by duty to present himself to the citizens of the shaky new union, he spent the night in so many inns and private houses that “George Washington Slept Here” became a real estate cliché.

  191. jupes

    Gen cupcake’s spendthrift will have to be made up for by the next “Great Generation*” doing the hard yards.

    I think that in Australia’s case, the ‘greatest generation’ was the one that fought WW1.

  192. Dr Faustus

    BoM is still in the foetal position from being blamed for SEQWater’s mishandling of the Wivenhoe dam which caused the 2011 Brisbane floods.

    In government science, being blamed for anything is professional death: much better to put out a useless disaster forecast that panics 4 million people.

  193. calli

    You just know those Council busybodies were born between 46 and 62, Gez. A younger generation would never pen such a letter.

  194. jupes

    The tax reform was a yuge win for Trump.

    No no.

    It was trivial stuff, otherwise we would be hearing all about it on the news. No, the real story on Trump today is that he obstructed justice (or some such shit).

  195. stackja

    jupes
    #2574675, posted on December 4, 2017 at 8:46 am

    Many fought WW1 returned for WW2.

  196. jupes

    Many fought WW1 returned for WW2.

    True, that’s just one of the reasons I reckon they are Australia’s greatest generation.

  197. stackja

    jupes
    #2574681, posted on December 4, 2017 at 8:52 am
    Many fought WW1 returned for WW2.

    True, that’s just one of the reasons I reckon they are Australia’s greatest generation.

    Mateship!

  198. calli

    Then there’s the Silent Generation. Born in the depression and war years. The parents, by and large, of the later boomers.

  199. Farmer Gez

    pen such a letter Calli,
    If you see the young things try to write it is truly painful and looks as if they have a handicap. They hold the pen like a hammer.

  200. Baldrick

    Rae
    #2574653, posted on December 4, 2017 at 8:08 am

    Fuck off Septimus

  201. Dave in Marybrook

    Doing a heap of infrastructure renewal on the farm here-
    Gen XYZ don’t even know how to hold a hammer, Gez

  202. Nick

    Headline at news.com.au.
    Sacked Serbian World Cup qualifying coach Slavoljub Muslin linked to Socceroos gig

    Lol, my Wishlist is getting close to the money.

  203. Nick

    It was trivial stuff, otherwise we would be hearing all about it on the news. No, the real story on Trump today is that he obstructed justice (or some such shit).

    Fairfax are bitching about his ‘scary’ Mc Donald’s order. FFS.

  204. Bruce of Newcastle

    Millennials have been characterized in a number of different ways. On the negative side, they’ve been described as lazy, narcissistic and prone to jump from job to job. The 2008 book “Trophy Kids” by Ron Alsop discusses how many young people have been rewarded for minimal accomplishments (such as mere participation) in competitive sports, and have unrealistic expectations of working life.

    You just knew they’d find the following too:

    Millennials are pickiest eaters yet, study says

    A study into the expectations and patience levels of 2,000 people when dining at a restaurant found that millennials are almost twice as likely (34 percent vs. 18 percent) to feel like a meal isn’t up to standard, compared to those over the age of 55.

    The survey, commissioned by GoDaddy, showed that millennials are not only harder to please when it comes to the quality of service, but they’re also generally pickier about the restaurants they choose to eat at and how they make decisions about where to eat, including a business’ online presence and social media platforms.

    I suppose if you want to do a selfie with your meal for your Spacechook page you’d want it to look top notch.

  205. calli

    It’s odd. Today we suddenly have an Ipsos poll that shows Australians want PMs to see out their full terms.

    Presumably the sample was taken from all political viewpoints. How convenient.

  206. Farmer Gez

    Dave, you realise that a certificate in hammer holding and attendant safety training is required for the proper utilisation of such a work enabling device.

  207. egg_

    Millennials are pickiest eaters yet, study says

    LMFAO.
    Case closed.

  208. John Constantine

    Sadly, Australia’s greatest generation were chopped up into sausage meat in World War One and never came back with the strength to finish building the country.

  209. Calli, apparantly all those who believe the ipsos poll are also likely to believe in Nigerian emails, bridges for sale and religious protections wrt gay marriage.

  210. P

    A former adviser, interpreter, communications manager and confidante of a political donor is now campaigning for the libs in Bennelong.
    He was present in the room when the donor was warned about his phone.
    Story this morning by Sharri Markson in the Tele.

  211. egg_

    How lucky am I that the council would allow me time to rectify this terrible error or the full weight of their fat arsed staff would come down on me, when they can drag themselves away from the bistros and coffee/cake shops.

    The ‘workaholics’ who come late to work with the large takeaway coffee status symbol?
    Gummint workers would have to be the worst offenders – your taxes at work.

  212. stackja

    John Constantine
    #2574694, posted on December 4, 2017 at 9:08 am
    Sadly, Australia’s greatest generation were chopped up into sausage meat in World War One and never came back with the strength to finish building the country.

    Morshead.

  213. Tel

    He replaced them all with Party members, who didn’t know much about oil refining. The biggest refinery in Venezuela then exploded killing and injuring hundreds.

    It makes you realize how quickly our high tech lifestyle could turn to shit if the morons got hold of the levers.

  214. Baldrick

    Proof, Milo is upsetting all the right people.

    Boris
    #2574593, posted on December 4, 2017 at 4:47 am
    I have read a few pieces of this Milo and it appears that all he is doing all the time is trying to be as outrageous as possible to shock and provoke people.

  215. Bruce of Newcastle

    Doing a heap of infrastructure renewal on the farm here-
    Gen XYZ don’t even know how to hold a hammer, Gez

    Factcheck: true. It’s a little old but this story was fun:

    Home Depot Panics Over Millennials; Forced To Host Tutorials On Using Tape Measures, Hammering Nails (10 Oct)

    While avocado resellers like Whole Foods only have to worry about creating a catchy advertising campaign to attract millennials, Home Depot is in full-on panic mode after realizing that an entire generation of Americans have absolutely no clue how to use their products. As the Wall Street Journal points out, the company has been forced to spend millions to create video tutorials and host in-store classes on how to do everything from using a tape measure to mopping a floor and hammering a nail.

    Home Depot’s VP of marketing admits she was originally hesitant because she thought some of their videos might be a bit too “condescending” but she quickly learned they were very necessary for our pampered millennials.

    In June the company introduced a series of online workshops, including videos on how to use a tape measure and how to hide cords, that were so basic some executives worried they were condescending. “You have to start somewhere,” Mr. Decker says.

    So there you go, all those dinky courses Bunnings advertises on the blackboard out front are there for a reason.

  216. John Constantine

    Their Julie Bishop has a track record.

    Her major Chinese donors are on her mobile phone speed dial, but as foreign minister she didn’t have a phone number to contact the President of the United States.

    The difference between Bishop and dastardly is that both have Chinese donors as first priority, but the labor rat would have made the effort to have all bases covered with phone numbers for every eventuality

  217. notafan

    It’s adorable when people falsely report humourous/tongue in cheek comments as though the commenter really meant it.

    Actually no it’s not, it’s lying but whatever.

    I agree DB, was Boomers, of which I am a tail ender, that fully embraced the sex without consequences, though that was facilitated by the scientists that gave them the drugs and religious leaders that said they could use them.

    Many gg had small families, and overindulged them and of course staying home with two children at school and a bunch of gadgets meant housewives were bored and the sixties started swinging.

    I’m not sure I want to blame generations but the rot surely set in then.

    As for greedy eyed on the wealth prize, that’s a crock, house prices are ridiculous, for reasons often discussed here, and that’s a fact. Millennials aren’t waiting for their parents to die, most of them haven’t seen their grandparents off. It’s boomers still getting the big fat inheritances.

    I had the 18% mortgage back in 1989, but it lasted a year tops and it didn’t stop us from upgrading from a nice home to an even nicer new home by July 1989.

    Always said better to be paying high interest on a small loan than low interest on a massive loan.

    I remember a colleague bought his first home for $20,000 with a $10,000 deposit in the early 70s, he never once made an extra payment and twenty years later still had a mortgage paying the top end rates at the end of the 80s.

    historical rate data so please stop with the poor poor pitiful mes.

  218. It makes you realize how quickly our high tech lifestyle could turn to shit if the morons got hold of the levers.

    Like the electricity grid?

  219. stackja

    Thousands of Catholic school teachers and support staff from about 350 schools across NSW and the ACT will stop work for four hours from 8.30am this morning.

    Staff are at “boiling point” after their Catholic employers put an enterprise agreement to a vote without gaining union endorsement, Independent Education Union (IEU) NSW & ACT branch secretary John Quessy says.

    Catholic Commission for Employment Relations executive director Tony Farley says he’s appalled by today’s industrial action. He says it’s a scare campaign by the union designed to trick teachers into voting against their latest Enterprise Agreement. “We’re actually giving employees pay increases and teachers will have increased opportunity for salary progression,” Mr Farley said.

    Parents will fill in.

  220. John Constantine

    At least their Venezuela still has refining capacity.

    Australia has lost the ability to make diesel because those with their hands on the levers deindustrialised this part of our economy.

    Australia ranks behind Venezuela in refining capacity.

  221. notafan

    BoN

    Who pampered the Millennials?

    The parents that paid the cleaner and the handyman and never taught their children basic skills?

    The ones that decided teaching girls home economics and boys wood working at school was sexist?

  222. egg_

    Home Depot Panics Over Millennials; Forced To Host Tutorials On Using Tape Measures, Hammering Nails (10 Oct)

    But, but… their self-indulgent grand dads use el cheapo air compressors and nail guns.

  223. stackja

    John Constantine
    #2574708, posted on December 4, 2017 at 9:18 am

    ACTU wage policy.

  224. Tel

    On the negative side, they’ve been described as lazy, narcissistic and prone to jump from job to job.

    Workplace loyalty pretty much died in the 1990’s before anyone was even talking millennial this and millennial that. In any situation, loyalty can only exists as a two way street, and personally I think it was management that killed it, but arguably the finger could be pointed in various directions. At any rate, it’s dead now and ain’t coming back.

    Perhaps there was a transition period where people kept up appearances, management gave a convincing talk about pretending to care for their staff and the employees make an effort to nod along as if they believe it. I think the millennial just couldn’t be bothered maintaining the necessary bullshit levels and even keeping up appearances has been abandoned. Transition to a low trust society and all that. Mind you millennials can be adept at bullshit for stuff where it matters to them, like pretending to have empathy and SJW nonsense.

  225. struth

    Good Moaning.

    I have had a busy weekend so I am not up with things.

    Am I correct in seeing that people are already talking about the dual citizenship debarcle in the past tense?

    Who’s claiming it’s over?

    Just before I scroll up would also like to mention that I owned a home in Perth when the interest rate was 16% or more and the house was a nice 3 bedroom typical suburban home.
    Way back then I was earning about a grand a week.
    The house was worth just over 100 grand back then and I had no problems paying it off and living like a king as a single young man.
    I can’t remember exactly, but I think it was a bout an eighty grand loan.
    Timing was all wrong.
    Sold the house before the mining boom which saw it rise up to 500 grand.

    Bugger.

  226. C.L.

    The Australian Taxation Office has launched an audit blitz on neighbourhoods across the nation with high concentrations of cash-only businesses, including restaurants, hairdressers and beauty parlours.

    […]

    ‘‘We walk in through the front door and sometimes they think we’re from immigration, so there are people running out the back door.”

    If people don’t know who they are when they swagger on to private property, I hope at least few of them cop a hiding in the process. What a power-drunk, arrogant a-hole.

  227. C.L.

    Ugh.
    Andrew Bolt apologises to women for not supporting compulsory quotas that give them safety in numbers (from harassment) at work.

  228. calli

    Workplace loyalty pretty much died in the 1990’s before anyone was even talking millennial this and millennial that.

    Yes. In my view, Gen X has had the rawest deal. Sold a pup in “a degree will set you up”, high interest, high unemployment, climbing house prices. Millennials are their children, or the children of late reproducing boomers.

    If my children and their peers are anything to go by, it’s the Gen Ys who are going gangbusters, taking advantage of low interest and high wages to pay off their homes and technology to build businesses.

  229. JC

    If people don’t know who they are when they swagger on to private property, I hope at least few of them cop a hiding in the process. What a power-drunk, arrogant a-hole.

    Last week the turd was dreaming about militarizing a section the ATO to go after bikie gangs. He wants shock troops to break down doors and frighten kids like they do in the US.

  230. Leigh Lowe

    ASX futures are predicted to be flat, slightly down on the open today.
    Why would they not be booming on the back of US tax cuts?
    Is the view that Australian businesses will be still saddled with high tax rates.
    But surely low US tax rates = stronger US growth = good for the world economy = market up?

  231. Leigh Lowe

    The Australian Taxation Office has launched an audit blitz on neighbourhoods across the nation with high concentrations of cash-only businesses, including restaurants, hairdressers and beauty parlours.

    … to force them to use unionised labour.

  232. entropy

    Thousands of Catholic school teachers and support staff from about 350 schools across NSW and the ACT will stop work for four hours from 8.30am this morning

    Everyone hates having to go to school at this time of year. Heck, the entropy kids have already finished.

  233. Zyconoclast

    Beer (blokes making yeast from fluff they found in their belly buttons)

    It gets worse. They are making beer using yeast from womens nether regions.
    You can even supply the yeast from your lady friend for a personalised beer.

  234. calli

    It also seems to me that the older the parents, the more pampered and cossetted the child. As parenthood is being delayed well beyond the early-mid thirties across an entire generation, I suspect the traits that we so despise in a small number will be the norm.

  235. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    All this talk of generations. To take a trip back in time go ad see Goodbye Christopher Robin.

    Enjoyed the late nite show last night, guys. Some good ding-dong between the generations, and there should be more of it. For various reasons, including that it is unseemly for a lady, I will not join in, but do keep going yourselves.

    For myself, I am taking the advice in quotes above, and will immerse myself in A.A. Milne on fillum tomorrow. Today I will try to put in place Mwrddyn’s suggestion to be less convoluted in my sentence structures when writing about the settlement of Britain and Ireland. Cats can be hard taskmasters, but you are all I have. Apart from Hairy, who doesn’t really count, as he will say anything to keep me happy and get it done.

    Mwrddyn (way I spell it and there is a reason for that), perhaps you are a fellow Welshperson? I expect you know that Nicolai Tolstoy, nephew of the great Russian author, wrote a book about the Merlin mythology. He suggests two ‘Merlins’ – one a Sylvestus, a forest creature, and another one down in Wales. But imho they have the same referent. Geoffrey of Monmouth in the twelfth century created the polite version ‘Merlin’ when writing in Latin. For his French audience, he eschewed Latinizing Mwrddyn into the term Merdinus, because it was … well, it was shit. It is the Welsh Brythonnic version though that is original and really speaks volumes, once you know certain things which Tolstoy Jnr cannot be blame for not knowing.

  236. entropy

    Workplace loyalty pretty much died in the 1990’s before anyone was even talking millennial this and millennial that. In any situation, loyalty can only exists as a two way street, and personally I think it was management that killed it, but arguably the finger could be pointed in various directions. At any rate, it’s dead now and ain’t coming back.

    According to HR weenies, if you are at a workplace where the workers are committed to it and have worked there for 20-40 years, you have a problem. Particularly according to advocates of a mobile public service where people can transfer their “skills” from department to department. Personally, I reckon the explosive growth in the number of HR weenies is the real problem.

  237. Mater

    It gets worse. They are making beer using yeast from womens nether regions.
    You can even supply the yeast from your lady friend for a personalised beer.

    I don’t think we can blame the Boomers for this one.

  238. JC

    Is the view that Australian businesses will be still saddled with high tax rates.
    But surely low US tax rates = stronger US growth = good for the world economy = market up?

    It would that for the mining houses etc. However if you ex out that BHP part float, the stock is trading at around 32 bucks grossed up. It’s not cheap even at 28ish bucks.

    Buy US money centre banks or even the XLF. There’s deregulation coming, a potential for a steeper yield curve, much higher divs and a global economy expected to grow around 4% next year.
    I’m nine months pregnant with Bank of America and XLF. I reckon Bofa could near 42 bucks next year. Buy banks wear diamonds.

    It’s one of the best trades ever and US airlines. If buffet buys an airline, as its rumored US airline stock could literally reprice… massively.

    The only problem with airlines is that occasionally one of them falls out of the sky and kills everyone. Terrible for the franchise…. and of course the people on board.

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