Open Forum: December 9, 2017

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  1. Leigh Lowe

    A couple of musings re the registry rush for SSM reported yesterday …
    (1) If there is a flurry of SSM’s scheduled for 30 days hence, will there be rash of hissy-fits arising from rejected invitations to conflicting ceremonies;
    (2) Is there rising tension in some gay households 48 hours on as a critical question remains unpopped.

  2. Baldrick

    Rae
    #2580697, posted on December 10, 2017 at 7:37 am

    Fuck off Haidee Zee

  3. rickw

    A big day yesterday, Sold my house at auction at 10.30 then bought another at 2.00, The first auction stalled at 100,000 under reserve and after the “meeting” took off like a rocket, finishing well over reserve. Then it was into the car and off to the sea change location. WHAT A DAY!

    Was Sea Change location under or over what you wanted to pay?!

  4. Leigh Lowe

    calli
    #2580708, posted on December 10, 2017 at 8:21 am
    Pence will be shattered by this. And in other Shock/Horror! a possible meeting with the Coptic Pope has also been cancelled.

    And, in other crushingly disappointing news …
    “Man is Told Mother-In-Law Can’t Attend Christmas Lunch.”

  5. rickw

    (2) Is there rising tension in some gay households 48 hours on as a critical question remains unpopped.

    The Homo’s really didn’t think this through, at all.

  6. calli

    Expect boom times for relationship counsellors. And St Vinnie’s stomach pumps.

  7. Mike of Marion

    Interesting viewpoint by Dick Stevens re Mike Flynn case.
    Short and concise.

  8. rickw

    More cultural enrichment overnight.

    #bringthemhere

    You don’t need to travel anymore to ready about machete attacks in the local paper. So convenient!

  9. Leigh Lowe

    Unintended consequence #23
    I also expect lots of hetero millenial couples (hitherto keen to show rainbow solidarity) to be a little pissed off to find that nuptial service providers are now more expensive, suddenly not available for the tentative booking which had been made and preferred venues booked solid.

  10. Sinclair Davidson

    Thanks Gab and Calli

  11. calli

    I love birthdays. Probably because I’ve had so many of them.

  12. notafan

    Those ssmarriage nuptials will, after an initial slurry, barely make a hiccup on the wedding season calendar.
    , representat E 0.9% of ‘couples’ in Canada

  13. John Constantine

    Ewe mutton hit five bucks a kilo dressed weight in Wagga Wagga this week, and shorn lambs to go on the green feed from the big NSW rain event were up twenty bucks a head. Bitcoin style price rises.

    The difference between cryptocurrencies and mutton is that you will never look out at a paddock of bitcoins and see frolicking numbers of newborns join the self replacing flock.

    [although sheep as resistant to blowfly strike as digital currency is would be handy.]

  14. Leigh Lowe

    Those ssmarriage nuptials will, after an initial slurry, barely make a hiccup on the wedding season calendar.

    True in the long term, but the (ahem) pent-up demand released in 2018 with gay couples from 16 to 60 (sometimes in the same ceremony) will be yuuuuuge.

  15. Those ssmarriage nuptials will, after an initial slurry, barely make a hiccup on the wedding season calendar.

    True. But I wouldn’t be planning anything involving a venue, hire cars, a photographer, or caterers in the week Friday January 5, to Sunday January 14.

  16. chrisl

    Was Sea Change location under or over what you wanted to pay?!
    Well under and coulda shoulda been better. It went to going going 6 times and at the last second a stupid women put another bid in. i reckon she cost me 35 grand. GRRR
    New house = 1/2 Old house +rebuild = overall happiness

  17. lotocoti

    Unintended consequence #23

    I was going to add Colorectal surgeons up to their elbows in make me tight for the wedding night jobbies, but I doubt there’ll be much more than the initial surge to be first.

  18. Robber Baron

    John Constantine
    #2580695, posted on December 10, 2017 at 7:17 am

    Breeding on Australian tax dollars, lecturing to hero worshiping impressionable youth every Friday in the back rooms of the mosquebunkers.

    So true John.

    My extended family has had 4 babies; one in each of the last 4 months. Two in public and two in private hospitals. The two in the private system…I visited twice, not a burqua or jihadi beard in sight.

    In the public system, where I visited more frequently, jihadi beards and burquas everywhere. I estimated by walking around the ward that 20 – 30% were Islamic babies.

    This was a real shock to me as I had been living abroad since 2011 and have returned to a country determined to become a mini version of Cairo on Mogadishu.

  19. Geriatric Mayfly

    True. But I wouldn’t be planning anything involving a venue, hire cars, a photographer, or caterers in the week Friday January 5, to Sunday January 14.

    What’s this then? The are now breaking another tradition. Blushing brides disport themselves around Easter as a rule.

  20. stackja

    Man dead after horrific attack by machete-wielding gang in Braybrook
    Brianna Travers, Herald Sun
    37 minutes ago
    A MAN is dead and another fighting for life after a gang of machete-wielding men allegedly used their car as a weapon in Melbourne’s west overnight.

    Police are now hunting for the gang of thugs responsible for the altercation which happened around 9.30pm last night.

    Police believe two men in their 40s were at Castley Crescent in Braybrook when they were allegedly set upon by a group of four to six men of African appearance.

    The group allegedly struck the two men with a car before they assaulted them with weapons including a machete.

    The offenders allegedly fled the scene in a silver or grey hatchback car and struck both victims while leaving.

    A 44-year-old Braybrook man was taken to hospital with life threatening injuries, while a 40-year-old Braybrook man was also taken to hospital with life threatening injuries where he later died.

  21. Blushing brides disport themselves around Easter as a rule.

    I’m not sure that arse cheeks pounded red raw counts as “blushing”, Mayfly.

  22. H B Bear

    More cultural enrichment overnight.
    #bringthemhere

    Nothing makes you more aware to the plight of sub-Saharan Africans than a late night machete attack. You can stick your Amnesty Christmas cards up your wazoo. If only Rob Hulls maaates in the Melbournibad judiciary could experience this in their leafy inner suburbs instead of being foisted on the proletariat scattered on the former cow paddocks of the outer suburbs.

  23. egg_

    Not running at full speed for shelter at Duneden(sic) yet.

    No explosive diarrhoea in the pool yet on E-coli of the Seas?

  24. egg_

    Insiders:
    Liddel’s imminent closure.
    What’s happened to Trumble’s ‘clean coal generation’ thought bubble?

  25. notafan

    If recent Victorian experience is anything to go by booking anything within 12 months is difficult.

    Expect much tantruming.

    I will never forget the over heard English language discussion of the wedding that wasn’t because the happy groom and groom could not agree as to who should wear the frock

    Nothing says real commitment to a shared life and the raising of a family that squabbling over right to wear the high heels.

    That was in Barcelona.

    If I could have moved tables, I would have.

    Anyone still foolish enough to watch the msm will no doubt be pleased with many televised ssm I do dos in the coming weeks and months.

    Blerk

  26. struth

    Good Moaning.

    More bloody Flannery falling.

    That prick should be made to pay back every cent he fraudulently took from taxpayers.

  27. zyconoclast

    A big day yesterday, Sold my house at auction at 10.30 then bought another at 2.00, The first auction stalled at 100,000 under reserve and after the “meeting” took off like a rocket, finishing well over reserve. Then it was into the car and off to the sea change location. WHAT A DAY!

    after the “meeting”

    Congratualtions.

  28. calli

    If recent Victorian experience is anything to go by booking anything within 12 months is difficult.

    Spot on.

    The specialness will wear off once forced to wait in line with the bogans.

  29. struth

    He he

    You may kiss the bride……………………………………………

    Is there anyone present who has good reason why this couple should not be married , speak now or forever hold your peace…………………..Yeah Father, they’re two blokes, haven’t you noticed?

  30. Tel

    No explosive diarrhoea in the pool yet on E-coli of the Seas?

    Hey… it’s unlikely to be worse than the Sydney public transport system and I survived decades of that (although overall I’ve been much healthier when I’ve had jobs where I can work from home).

  31. The specialness will wear off once forced to wait in line with the bogans.

    Calli, you’re the organiser. You should be arranging one of those en mass weddings like they have in Korea and Japan. You’d make a killing.

  32. Leigh Lowe

    The specialness will wear off once forced to wait in line with the bogans.

    But will they?
    I predict a number of sudden cancellations landing on hetero couples doorsteps as service providers decide that they don’t want to be labelled homophobic.
    Thursday could be the new Saturday with paid time off for all legislated.

  33. egg_

    There’s a bit of confusion between a ute and a light truck.

    +1

    Two different vehicles.
    The long wheelbase* Holden Crewman would have been the world’s only dual cab “ute”; utes are traditionally longer wheel base than the sedan they’re based on – using the Station Wagon variant’s chassis; the VE VF Commodore Wagon were the same wheelbase as the sedan (likely for handling in the HSV guise) whereas the utes still retained the longer wheelbase of the previous model Station Wagon.

    *Using the even longer wheelbase chassis of the Statesman/Caprice limo.

  34. Farmer Gez

    Yes John, old ewe mutton is hot (keep clear smutty minds). A neighbour sold six to seven year olds to get $150 and even ewes he said were toothless and turned inside out sold at $120.

  35. Another gang brawl and death – this time in Adelaide.
    What’s going on?

  36. H B Bear

    Hey… it’s unlikely to be worse than the Sydney public transport system and I survived decades of that …

    Wait till Sydney buses start serving a buffet.

  37. notafan

    LL a few will change their minds when they realise how much it all costs.

    No doubt a few show boaters will go ahead with the well planned.

    I’m not sure caterers will dare overturn long standing bookies for Johnny and Johhny come Lateline, hard to hide the evidence.

  38. Leigh Lowe

    Yes John, old ewe mutton is hot (keep clear smutty minds). A neighbour sold six to seven year olds to get $150 and even ewes he said were toothless and turned inside out sold at $120.

    What is driving thia?
    The Middle-Eastern live export mail-order bride market?

  39. Leigh Lowe

    I’m not sure caterers will dare overturn long standing bookies for Johnny and Johhny come Lateline, hard to hide the evidence.

    Venues won’t.
    Too easy to track.
    Photographers, florists and car hire … not so easy.

  40. egg_

    Wait till Sydney buses start serving a buffet.

    So long as George Costanza’s not “double dipping”?

  41. notafan

    Unless someone is very high profile, photographer and florists are not in short supply and I’m not convinced having a reputation for cancelling at short notice is something you’ll get away with in the Instagram generation.

    Proper marriage is still where the money will be.

  42. memoryvault
    #2580750, posted on December 10, 2017 at 9:25 am

    Another gang brawl and death – this time in Adelaide.
    What’s going on?

    The imported voteherd is unhappy?

  43. The imported voteherd is unhappy?

    Could it be the rise in sheep prices?

  44. egg_

    Insiders:
    Dastardly under pressure.
    Aunty is not on his side.

  45. Snoopy

    Insiders:
    Dastardly under pressure.
    Aunty is not on his side.

    That means Shorten must be hurtin’.

  46. egg_

    Study finds eating meat perpetuates ‘hegemonic masculinity’

    Cate McGregor has less meat nowadays?

  47. H B Bear

    They’ll end up throwing the Persian Dwarf overboard. All those Sussex St time servers come with so much baggage they can’t even survive in the Senate. The Liars will find them a nice cushy job with a maaaate like Arbib and Bitar. Crown Casino again?

  48. one old bruce

    Best wishes Sinc and thanks for your ongoing efforts, much appreciated.

  49. Roger

    They’ll end up throwing the Persian Dwarf overboard.

    He may take Shorten with him.

  50. Geriatric Mayfly

    The show stopper will be a Lebbo gay marriage. Streets will be blocked off, helicopters will shower confetti, Lamborghinis will arrive in procession, falafel will flow from fountains, a cast of thousands will attend and the armoury will be opened for the traditional gun toting finale

  51. zyconoclast

    I heard Barry Cassidy wants to give the @rse-clown Josh Friedeggburger a free pass on the citizenship thing because something bad may have happened to his mother.

  52. Robber Baron

    I was involved in the catering business for a decade in the 2000’s and we did gay weddings. The civil celebrant did the ceremony, but there was no official marriage, just civil union. There were DJ’s, florists, venues, caterers etc all the trappings, but it was either two gays or lezzos spending their hard earned. What the Turnbull reich did was to force the religions and churches into performing services for homos. That’s part of the destructive Turnbull legacy. The government has now entered into the regulation of religion (but not Islamic religion will be my bet).

  53. Joe

    The government has now entered into the regulation of religion (but not Islamic religion will be my bet).

    116. Commonwealth not to legislate in respect of religion

    The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth.

  54. John Constantine

    Bitcoin is superior to mutton this morning though.

    Cunning old buddies have nosed open the gate into an oat paddock and are rolling down more grain than they are eating.

    Release the hounds!.

  55. Mother Lode

    I’m not sure caterers will dare overturn long standing bookies for Johnny and Johhny come Lateline, hard to hide the evidence.

    If a conservative tradition is ripped apart in a progressive media landscape, does it make a sound?

  56. zyconoclast

    A true work of art! Transgender model Lea T, 36, poses totally naked on the cover of Elle Brazil as she recreates Botticelli’s The Birth Of Venus

    You would think that the world has run out of beautiful women, that the magazines have to start using the list from the freaks file.

    The long and ugly march continues apace.

  57. H B Bear

    They’ll end up throwing the Persian Dwarf overboard.
    He may take Shorten with him.

    PeanutHead knows his job is never safe. Just ask Bill Hayden.

  58. Shy Ted

    Sheesh, Alice Workman on Talking Pictures (Insiders). (Just checking on the size of Mike Bowers’ boozer’ nose). Has Alice eaten Karen Middleton?

  59. egg_

    Bitcoin is superior to mutton this morning though.

    Cunning old buddies have nosed open the gate into an oat paddock and are rolling down more grain than they are eating.

    Sounds like Grigs on a leisure cruise.
    Liberal use of handcream recommended, apparently.
    The skinsuit must dry out on deck?

  60. Tom

    The show stopper will be a Lebbo gay marriage. Streets will be blocked off, helicopters will shower confetti, Lamborghinis will arrive in procession, falafel will flow from fountains, a cast of thousands will attend and the armoury will be opened for the traditional gun toting finale.

    … followed by the car bomb.

  61. Infidel Tiger

    The warmening continues. It’s snowing in Florida.

  62. Whalehunt Fun

    That snow won’t stoo the idiots believinh not the thieving scum thieving. Only a retrosoectuve capital punishment will cure this global warming cancer.

  63. Mother Lode

    Regarding the chromosomally unmoored model trying to look female by mimicking a long revered icon of femenine beauty – why is these fuckers must steal rather than create sublime art? Why must they debase and demean the very things they claim to aspire to?

    Don’t worry, those were rhetorical questions.

  64. egg_

    They’ll end up throwing the Persian Dwarf overboard.

    No longer of any use to the Sinos now he’s been outed – even Aunty has highlighted alleged covert Sino subterfuge as mentioned by Trumble.
    The little kleptocrat has passed his use by?

  65. Tom

    Milo on Outsiders (Foxtel ch. 604) –pre-recorded.

  66. Nick

    That’s part of the destructive Turnbull legacy. The government has now entered into the regulation of religion (but not Islamic religion will be my bet).

    Hmmm. The Right need to play the Left at their own game and importantly, use their own language back at them. I find saying I’m being triggered or that I want a safe space, produces great results. Perhaps the next step is to say such acts disturbs my religious beliefs, Islam and see what happens next.

  67. Whalehunt Fun

    because something bad may have happened to his mother

    Yeah. She gave birth to a walking talking fart.

  68. Dave in Marybrook

    Any chance of a link for us non-subscribers Tom?

  69. Caveman

    You would think that the world has run out of beautiful women

    Fark, what a surprise, they are all my X’s.

  70. Tom

    Dave, some Cats know how to get Sky News without a subscription, but I don’t. I guessing it’ll be youtube.com in the next hour or so.

  71. Joe

    Dave, some Cats know how to get Sky News without a subscription, but I don’t. I guessing it’ll be youtube.com in the next hour or so.

    Well, then GIVE US A HINT!

  72. Caveman

    Tom you can get Sky news for free from the
    Foxtell Go ap, if you with Telstra i dont think you get charged data usage.

  73. C.L.

    A man under no pressure whatsoever …
    Vintage stuff from Trump in Florida – gold:

  74. Mark A

    If you have connected your phone to your internet via WIFI you won’t be charged, don’t know about Telstra not charging you for the data? I doubt it very much, that they won’t if you are using your allowance, but who would use phone data when home and downloading stuff? That is just silly.

    Used to watch he Bolt report on my Android tablet when home through he app.

  75. 116 The government has now entered into the regulation of religion

    The states are not constrained by such things.
    However, this section will get a work out over the next few years.

  76. Joe

    The states are not constrained by such things.

    Then we better make it painful for them to infringe religious freedoms.

  77. Mark A

    Joe
    #2580806, posted on December 10, 2017 at 10:56 am

    The states are not constrained by such things.

    Then we better make it painful for them to infringe religious freedoms.

    By doing exactly what?
    I’m being serious.

  78. Geriatric Mayfly

    A man under no pressure whatsoever …
    Vintage stuff from Trump in Florida – gold:

    True C.L. Watched it last night and the contrast between Trump talking to the common man, and that poseur Obama always babbling to morally superior beings, couldn’t be clearer. I like how he covered all the immediate issues and gave forecast of what is to come, without any of that high falutin’ bullshit churned out by the teleprompter. His four slogans at the end beginning with “Make America … Again” was a masterstroke. The chant “Lock Her Up” still resonates, as did some of the others the hyped-up crowd decided to vent.

  79. By doing exactly what?
    I’m being serious.

    By voting Liberal ‘coz at least they’re not Labor.
    Oh, and second preferencing them so they miss out on $2.60 electoral funding.
    That’ll show’em we mean business.

  80. egg_

    I heard Barry Cassidy wants to give the @rse-clown Josh Friedeggburger a free pass on the citizenship thing because something bad may have happened to his mother.

    The second-smartest-man-in-the-room is carrying out Aunty’s Energy agenda.

  81. Has anyone ever tested in the HC whether Holy Matrimony (aka marriage) is a religious ceremony?

    How to mess things up.

  82. Mark A

    memoryvault
    #2580814, posted on December 10, 2017 at 11:11 am

    LOL MV you missed the sarc tag for the easily confused.

  83. LOL MV you missed the sarc tag for the easily confused.

    Exactly who I was aiming for, Mark – which didn’t include you BTW.

  84. Re Leb weddings the ululating of the women in bags as the men take turns tenderising the rump of the lamb before it is slaughtered and spit roasted is something to behold

  85. Joe

    A “conservative”, “Liberal” government strikes again.

    “NSW employers no longer able to discriminate against pregnant job seekers”

    They are reducing employment to word of mouth. The only way to ensure that you get who you want in a job is not to advertise it and to let it be known to your associates that you are seeking skills. They in turn will mention it to their friends and relatives and an appropriate person will be sought from amongst them. Outsiders will not be considered because of the risk of infringing the rights of the outsider.

  86. A Lurker

    The show stopper will be a Lebbo gay marriage. Streets will be blocked off, helicopters will shower confetti, Lamborghinis will arrive in procession, falafel will flow from fountains, a cast of thousands will attend and the armoury will be opened for the traditional gun toting finale.

    Family honour appeased, funerals performed a few days later.

  87. Leigh Lowe

    Telstra not charging you for the data? 

    They do it with selected “partner” apps.
    AFL app for example.

  88. Leigh Lowe

    A man under no pressure whatsoever …
    Vintage stuff from Trump in Florida – gold:

    But he doesn’t have the broad appeal of Obumbi.
    We need a President who will govern for all Arabians, not just those who voted for him.

  89. egg_

    Telstra not charging you for the data?

    They do it with selected “partner” apps.

    Folks probably forget that the ‘tel” in Foxtel is Telstra.

  90. Baldrick

    Now that we have Safe Marriage, the kids are next …

    The results of the same-sex marriage postal survey were clear: Australia voted in favour of equality. The marriage equality bill has passed, and the mandate to deliver inclusive sexuality education in schools is more pressing than ever. LGBTQI+-inclusive sexuality education should embrace diversity in the classroom, the staff-room and in whole-of-school policies.
    LGBTQI+-inclusive sexuality education reduces negative stereotypes and biases, creating a safer school environment for LGBTQI+ students. When schools adopt inclusive policies across all school curricula (not just sexuality education), all students feel safer.
    The school environment should promote understanding of and respect for sexuality and gender diversity. Policies and programs to address homophobic and transphobic abuse and support the professional development of school staff, are crucial to inclusive sexuality education.

    Who else remembers the QWERTY brigade saying Safe Marriage had nothing to do with Safe Schools?

  91. Infidel Tiger

    David French has a good column on the murder of an unarmed man by crazed psychopath cops:

    http://amp.nationalreview.com/corner/454504/police-murder-daniel-shaver?__twitter_impression=true

    That video is horrifying.

  92. Leigh Lowe

    Watched it last night and the contrast between Trump talking to the common man, and that poseur Obama always babbling to morally superior beings, couldn’t be clearer.

    I loved the little piece on the immigration “lottery” where he basically called out the naivety (at best) of Obumbi and the corruption of these shithole governments Obumbi selected for the lottery. He correctly reflected the mood of the Average Joe who can see that these lotteries would be fixed. He further accused them of unloading crims and terrorists on us (and probably a sprinkling of well connected party members and relatives).
    The beauty was that he reprised his line from the campaign … “they are not sending us their best” … which was originally directed at Mexicans, not the lottery chain migration scam.
    The messaging is magnificent.

  93. I am fresh and combat hardened from yesterdays Battle of Trumptopia.

    Who wants to argue?

  94. Stimpson J. Cat

    The school environment should promote understanding of and respect for sexuality and gender diversity.

    I warned you all this was coming.
    I am prepared.
    Are you?
    Always remember my children, in the land of the mentally ill the agile bald man is King.

  95. notafan

    Who wants to argue?

    I say we build a genuine Libertarian utopia in Alice Springs

    The lizards are already there.

    All we need to do is donkey vote and we will win!

    #MakeAliceGreatAgain

  96. Baldrick

    That video is horrifying.

    That’s what happens when you give Mall Cops a gun.
    Unbelievable.

  97. I say we build a genuine Libertarian utopia in Alice Springs

    Yes. And out of respect for the traditional lifestyle, all air and road transport from Alice Springs should be banned.

  98. Farmer Gez

    respect for sexuslity and gender diversity.
    The author Melissa Kang is a perfesser so the best response is to tell her to go get F$CKED, in an inclusive gender diverse way of course.

  99. KaaBee

    One of my client companies from years past would only hire married women over forty years of age and with children. Work hours and rosters were arranged so some started early, some finished later to accommodate family responsibilities.. The result was a loyal, reliable work force operating in a happy working environment. Seems to make even more sense these days, particularly for small business, which just happens to be the nations largest employer.. I genuinely feel sorry for the aspiring younger female.

  100. Snoopy

    I wonder if the Coptic Pope’s decision not to meet with VP Pence had anything to do with not wanting Coptic churches in Egypt attacked and their congregants murdered?

  101. Snoopy

    Always remember my children, in the land of the mentally ill the agile bald man is King.

    Gollum rules!

  102. notafan

    I’m not sure about banning of the wheel.

    To make it a true Libertarian utopia it should be the ssmarriage capital of Australia and be the first place to hold legal polymarriages.

    Libertarians will flock, flock I tell you.

  103. notafan

    I wonder if the Coptic Pope’s decision not to meet with VP Pence had anything to do with not wanting Coptic churches in Egypt attacked and their congregants murdered?

    Crossed my mind t0o, Pope Tawadros II said something about Arabs but Copts consider themselves to be descendants of the original Egyptians so perhaps he is simply trying to deflect Arab animus (which bubbles like a toxic tar pit at the best of times) from his flock.

  104. hzhousewife

    A “conservative”, “Liberal” government strikes again.

    “NSW employers no longer able to discriminate against pregnant job seekers”

    They are reducing employment to word of mouth. The only way to ensure that you get who you want in a job is not to advertise it and to let it be known to your associates that you are seeking skills. They in turn will mention it to their friends and relatives and an appropriate person will be sought from amongst them. Outsiders will not be considered because of the risk of infringing the rights of the outsider.

    My older job-seeking friend has discovered that it may take up to 6 months for a govt appointment to come through, so if she were pregnant at interview, she would probably have to apply to be off on maternity leave on the first day of the job.
    My younger relative got her job recently by sending in a resume cold, got taken on for a trial, now working fulltime. Her “luck” involved having vertical skill integration – she could do almost everything the company does, in quite a specialised field.

  105. RobK

    IT,

    Alex Jones interviews “Alexa”

    Very good.

  106. nemkat

    I heard Barry Cassidy wants to give the @rse-clown Josh Friedeggburger a free pass on the citizenship thing because something bad may have happened to his mother.
    Presumably Friedeggburger qualifies for Israeli citizenship under that Country’s 1950 Law of Return, so he’s in breach of S.44 anyway, isn’t he?

  107. Stimpson J. Cat

    Gollum rules!

    Sssh precious.

  108. calli

    Chuckle. Just got collared after church by someone with serious TDS. Dreadful about that Jerusalem business, what do you think? She won’t try that again. 🙂

  109. egg_

    I’m not sure about banning of the wheel.

    A Patriarchal invention to enslave beasts of burden?
    Better off with wymmin-folk carrying sacks and jugs on their heads?

  110. notafan

    Sacks and jugs?

    Don’t be ridiculous

    Way too sophisticated

  111. Tel

    That’s what happens when you give Mall Cops a gun.
    Unbelievable.

    No it is what happens when cops understand they can take action without any consequences.

  112. Stimpson J. Cat

    That is some first rate comedy.

    I’m not laughing.
    Goddamn talking robot CIA Commie spies in your house recording everything you say is no laughing matter.
    It’s good Alex is taking this matter seriously.
    We are running out of time to stop Judgement Day.
    We lost on the gay frogs, we can’t afford to lose again.

  113. Sacks (made from hemp). Better that people smoke it, rather than manufacture bags.

  114. notafan

    I’m all for Frydenberg to be given a pass.

    His mother’s family were deprived of their citizenship by the Horthy government in 1938, when she was born in 1943 she had no legal status in Hungary, she emigrated with her family in 1950 as a stateless person.

    If in 1993 the Hungarians decided to belatedly undo a grievous injustice to it’s [email protected]@ish citizens by restoring citizenship, a privilege neither desired or taken up by Mrs Frydenberg, why should Josh be caught up?

    He cannot be caught out by the frivolities of a foreign power that cooperated in the genocide of it’s own citizens

    That would be just wrong.

  115. JC

    nemkat
    #2580855, posted on December 10, 2017 at 12:34 pm
    I heard Barry Cassidy wants to give the @rse-clown Josh Friedeggburger a free pass on the citizenship thing because something bad may have happened to his mother.
    Presumably Friedeggburger qualifies for Israeli citizenship under that Country’s 1950 Law of Return, so he’s in breach of S.44 anyway, isn’t he?

    Ummm no dickhead, he’s not.

  116. nota.
    The rules are pretty obvious to parliamentary contenders.
    He knew the rules and took no steps to renounce.
    Therefore, bye bye Friesandburger.

  117. notafan

    Did Frydenberg know of the 1993 Hungarian legislation?

    News to me.

  118. nemkat

    I’m all for Frydenberg to be given a pass.

    Who isn’t, notafan.
    We might as well throw the Constitution out the window while we’re at it, but aren’t feelings more important anyway?

  119. Infidel Tiger

    Frydenberg should be kicked out of Parliament, but not for S.44 reasons. Being a lying and duplicitous swine seems more appropriate.

  120. C.L.

    He correctly reflected the mood of the Average Joe who can see that these lotteries would be fixed. He further accused them of unloading crims and terrorists on us.

    Castro famously said that he had “flushed the toilets of Cuba” onto America in the 70s and 80s.

    Then, as now, the Democrat Party welcomed the sewage.

  121. notafan

    We might as well throw the Constitution out the window while we’re at it, but aren’t feelings more important anyway?

    Nothing to do with throwing away the constitution

    How can an Australian born citizen of Australia citizens (not even dual citizens) be bound by a retrospective law passed by a foreign country?

    It is an absurdity

    What if Ir

  122. Gab

    The Queen’s Christmas message first televised in 1957. Watch from about 1:47 onward. Her words are very prescient and relevant regarding social mores and values – or lack thereof – in today’s world.

  123. Stimpson J. Cat

    He cannot be caught out by the frivolities of a foreign power that cooperated in the genocide of it’s own citizens.
    That would be just wrong.

    Rules are rules even for J$ws.
    Breaking them is simply not kosher.
    Bye Josh.

  124. C.L.

    Fraud James Comey Tweets out another pious quote targeting Trump, misattributes authorship.
    Twitter ridicules the idiot.

  125. nemkat

    notafan
    All anyone who falls under S.44 has to do is renounce their entitlement to foreign citizenship. It aint rocket surgery, particularly for people on $200,000 plus expenses.

  126. Gab

    From Her Majesty’s message:

    But it is not the new inventions which are the difficulty. The trouble is caused by unthinking people who carelessly throw away ageless ideals as if they were old and outworn machinery.

    They would have religion thrown aside, morality in personal and public life made meaningless, honesty counted as foolishness and self-interest set up in place of self-restraint.

    At this critical moment in our history we will certainly lose the trust and respect of the world if we just abandon those fundamental principles which guided the men and women who built the greatness of this country and Commonwealth.

    Today we need a special kind of courage, not the kind needed in battle but a kind which makes us stand up for everything that we know is right, everything that is true and honest. We need the kind of courage that can withstand the subtle corruption of the cynics so that we can show the world that we are not afraid of the future.

    It has always been easy to hate and destroy. To build and to cherish is much more difficult.

  127. Stimpson J. Cat

    The one thing no one has thought about in passing SSM is the effect it will have on honor killings.
    Now there will be a whole heap of young gay men potentially in danger from their families.

    And another question I have is this:
    If a gay Muslim man commits suicide by throwing himself off a building, is he also a terrorist?

  128. A bit like John McEnroe yelling at the umpire: “It was in!”
    No Josh. When it is outside the line, it is out.

    No, Josh. We know you meant to hit the ball. The stumps are broken, you are out!

  129. C.L.

    Now that we have Safe Marriage, the kids are next …

    The gay lobby has always been – and will always be – focused primarily on children.

  130. notafan

    notafan
    All anyone who falls under S.44 has to do is renounce their entitlement to foreign citizenship. It aint rocket surgery, particularly for people on $200,000 plus expenses.

    Well that assumes that you had some inkling that you had an entitlement.

    It would be hardly surprising if Josh and his mother took no interest in the internal affairs of the country of Hungary.

    You keep on commenting but have failed to come up with any evidence that either Josh or his mother were aware of the 1993 change to Hungarian law.

    Can I remind you that you had the gaul to claim that Josh was out because of the ‘right of return’

    Presumably Friedeggburger qualifies for Israeli citizenship under that Country’s 1950 Law of Return, so he’s in breach of S.44 anyway, isn’t he?

    Suggests to me that a very particular issue is driving your comments here.

  131. Dr Faustus

    Dastardly under pressure.
    Aunty is not on his side.

    The ABC/Fairfax led the charge against Dastyari and his Chinese paymaster.
    Clearing the decks for an early election while sparing Goblin Shorten the blame and retribution.

  132. Damienski

    In addition to our mutual loathing of Prime Minister Turnbull, it appears that His Doomlordship and I share a common birthday.

    Happy birthday, Professor. I hope you spend it luxuriously.

    I am awaiting 3 month old grand daughter, her parents, and my 90 year old parents, at home for birthday lunch. A real treasure to have 4 generations together.

  133. … but have failed to come up with any evidence that either Josh or his mother were aware of the 1993 change to Hungarian law …

    “Sorry constable. I did not know that the speed limit was 40kph here.”
    “How was I to know that it changed last week?”

    “Tough shit driver.”

  134. Gab

    Oh, Damienski, how precious is that! How lucky you and yours are! I wish you all the very best.

  135. Gab

    And happy Birthday to you too!

  136. calli

    If I miss the speed sign and get booked, I’ll cop it sweet. Doesn’t matter if the required speed is stupid or unfair.

    Josh missed the speed sign. Won’t do that again.

  137. C.L.

    In the SMH:

    In tourist shops around the country, visitors are far more likely to buy a boomerang made in Bali than one made here by Indigenous Australians. What led to this booming trade in fake art – and can it be stopped?

    Dead heart: the booming trade in fake Indigenous art.

    Does this mean Albert Namatjira’s work is fake European art?

  138. notafan

    “Sorry constable. I did not know that the speed limit was 40kph here.”
    “How was I to know that it changed last week?”

    Australian claims ignorance of clearly sign posted change to speed limits on the road on which he was driving.

    Australian claims ignorance of obscure 1993 change to Hungarian law

    The parallel is clear.

  139. nemkat

    You keep on commenting but have failed to come up with any evidence that either Josh or his mother were aware of the 1993 change to Hungarian law.

    Whether the person is aware that they are in breach of S.44 or not, isn’t the issue.
    For the record, i’m not making that assertion

  140. min

    Should those rules also apply to all the other Jews in Parliament?

  141. calli

    The parallel is clear.

    Well, at least two of us think so! 😀

  142. the booming trade in fake Indigenous art.

    In Cairns, at least, aboriginals sell polymer extruded didgeridoos and boomerangs.
    What’s the problem?

  143. Stimpson J. Cat

    “Sorry constable. I did not know that the speed limit was 40kph here.”
    “How was I to know that it changed last week?”

    “But I’m J$wish.”

  144. Bill Thompson

    Outside Insiders – Malcolm Farr & Andrew Probyn

    https://youtu.be/Sk6xqwe0rj8

  145. Damienski

    Thanks Gab. And Calli (I think!)

  146. calli

    I shell out oodles of money to have my company tax returns prepared by someone who knows the law better than me. Otherwise I might be up for a stretch in the go-slow.

    Frydenberg should have consulted a lawyer when filling out his application, just in case there was a little unforseen wrinkle. It isn’t as if it was a secret – Abbott had to produce proof after rumblings, as did the Welsh redhead. A parent born overseas would immediately flag an investigation for the remotely sensible.

    Oops! He is a lawyer. But Holocaust! Spare me.

  147. notafan

    Can I just say that while sometimes you are funny Stimp
    your last two comments are pretty pathetic

    You must have some idea of the circumstances in which Josh’s mother became a stateless person.

    As far as I am concerned Hungary’s very belated restoration of citizenship rights added insult to injury.

  148. ArthurB

    In the Weekend Australian Chip Le Grand has an article about the Left. He says the latest weapon in the Left’s armoury is doxxing: hackers employed by Leftist organisations such as Getup! discover the identity of persons who post anonymously in ways which the Left disapproves of, and then exert pressure through social media, so that people may lose their jobs, or become the target of the thugs of the Left.

    The keyboard warriors of Catallaxy and other conservative sites should take care not to allow themselves to be identifiable.

  149. egg_

    The ABC/Fairfax led the charge against Dastyari and his Chinese paymaster.
    Clearing the decks for an early election while sparing Goblin Shorten the blame and retribution.

    Teh pr0n dwarf grew too big for his daks.

  150. calli

    You must have some idea of the circumstances in which Josh’s mother became a stateless person.

    And that’s why I’m not buying what Frydenberg is selling. The community is very tight-knit and that insult would have been talked about. They knew.

  151. marcus classis

    Farmer Gez
    #2580749, posted on December 10, 2017 at 9:25 am
    Yes John, old ewe mutton is hot (keep clear smutty minds). A neighbour sold six to seven year olds to get $150 and even ewes he said were toothless and turned inside out sold at $120.

    Yep. Friend who owns my favourite hunting property is getting amazing prices for ancient cattle. She said that the Russians are buying them for their canned meat industry. Might be the same market for mutton?

  152. Beware of politicians (or their mothers) playing violins.

  153. John Constantine

    Calls for all boys to be given the vaccine for the human papilloma virus.

    Anal cancer rates are increasing rapidly, the hpv and trying it to see if you like it, as encouraged in safe schools linked it seems.

    Increased cancer of the arse risk from Rose wards safe communist sodomy schooling program, does the chain of responsibility mean victims can sue?.

    Or will the State be all powerful by the time today’s safe schooled catamites find evidence of cancer discharge wiped on the dunny paper.

    Or will their future Veneztralia even have paper in the crappers?.

  154. notafan

    Josh’s mother was stateless, she had not the slightest interest in Hungary and was a sole Australian citizen.

    Her family were completely repudiated by Hungary.

    I am not at all surprised that she did not know and as a consequence he did not know, or enquire.

    All this letter of the law stuff is sickening.

    In view of the fact that parliamentarians born overseas or who were aware that they had well known entitlements eg British to point the finger at Frydenberg, and demand that he should have been even more scrupulous than all the others is pathetic.

    In all the carry on it still isn’t clear if he is an Hungarian citizen

    Has anyone asked Hungary

    Nothing in the media to suggest that they say he is.

  155. marcus classis

    ArthurB
    #2580911, posted on December 10, 2017 at 1:44 pm
    In the Weekend Australian Chip Le Grand has an article about the Left. He says the latest weapon in the Left’s armoury is doxxing: hackers employed by Leftist organisations such as Getup! discover the identity of persons who post anonymously in ways which the Left disapproves of, and then exert pressure through social media, so that people may lose their jobs, or become the target of the thugs of the Left.

    The keyboard warriors of Catallaxy and other conservative sites should take care not to allow themselves to be identifiable.

    Good advice at all times, although we have our own doxxer here. Surely all Cats use a VPN?

  156. notafan

    And that’s why I’m not buying what Frydenberg is selling. The community is very tight-knit and that insult would have been talked about. They knew.

    That isn’t logical

    If they knew he would have repudiated, why ever would he not?

  157. In all the carry on it still isn’t clear if he is an Hungarian citizen

    If he wants to be a MP, it is up to him to show that he is not a Hungarian citizen.
    Rules.
    Bummer.

  158. Joe

    If they knew he would have repudiated, why ever would he not?

    Good to see the politicians hoist by their own “guilty until proven innocent” petard, that they apply to us plebs.

  159. Stimpson J. Cat

    Can I just say that while sometimes you are funny Stimp your last two comments are pretty pathetic

    So do survivors of other genocides get a pass too?
    Bosnian’s, Cambodians, Russians, Bangladeshis, East Timorese, Burundi’s, Somalis, Kurds, Guatemalans, and Rwandans?
    Or only J$ws?

  160. This from a book review in The Oz.
    Aboriginal people viewed as indolent, manipulative, violence-prone and devoid of any serious commitment to economic or educational advancement; whitefella staff as mediocre, profiteering, hypocritical basket cases, presiding over a failed, chaotic network of human zoos. The whole remote community world as a long-running enterprise of conspiracy devoted to propagating a profitable lie.

    The Dystopia in the Desert: The Silent Culture of Australia’s Remotest Aboriginal communities
    By Tadhgh Purtill
    Australian Scholarly Publishing, 267pp, $44

    The whole review makes for frightening reading.

  161. nemkat

    As far as I am concerned Hungary’s very belated restoration of citizenship rights added insult to injury.
    Maybe.
    According to Wiki, Horthy was supportive of the Polish refugees in 1939, and he refused German demands to deport Hungarians, whether they were citizens or not.
    Since Horthy wasn’t a defendant at Nuremberg, it’s possible that the 1938 Law was made in the interests of those people who were made stateless.

  162. egg_

    Beware of politicians (or their mothers) playing violins.

    “We’re getting the band back together” – Lord Waffleworth.

  163. egg_

    Good to see the politicians hoist by their own “guilty until proven innocent” petard, that they apply to us plebs.

    Just like the CAGW logic – erring on the side of caution, Josh.
    Too bad about that recent Indonesian volcano eruption skewing the data, eh?

  164. notafan

    Stimpy, it is not merely being the victim of genocide but that Hungary (amongst others) in which J22s were citizens passed laws repudiated all citizenship rights, made them stateless.

    Is that the case in the examples you cited?

    I do not believe Josh is in fact a Hungarian citizen, even if his mother had an entitlement to claim such under the 1993 law, I don’t hold it against him for not knowing, and I believe that he did not know.

    Others can believe whatever they like.

    Now talk about Katy Gallagher or one of the many others caught up.

  165. nemkat

    It’s the Entitlement to claim foreign citizenship that is at issue, notafan.
    You might want to reread your earlier link. Ed Husic says no worries, but Mark Dreyfus is still after Josh.

  166. notafan

    My understanding is that the general Nurembery laws applied to Hungerian Jews, I wasn’t particular animadverting against Horthy

  167. notafan

    My understanding is that the general Nurembery laws applied to Hungarian [email protected]@s, I wasn’t particular animadverting against Horthy
    history

  168. notafan

    My understanding is that the general Nurembery laws applied to Hungarian [email protected]@s, I wasn’t particular animadverting against Horthy
    I am aware that until 1944 their circumstances were far less dire that many others under the boot of the axis

    Article at J22ish virtual library gives a decent precis of what happened “behavior-of-hungarian-authorities-during-the-holocaust”

  169. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Perverse progression! But perverse incentives and consequences, and ill-kept secrets and half-articulated compromises, are endemic in the portrait Purtill presents of the lands. This is a realm where staffers can forge the signatures of community leaders, where some shopkeepers feed themselves from the stock of the community store, where staff administrators running a strict alcohol-free zone drink in their homes and where spending public money irresponsibly is an art form. Purtill gives, again, examples from his own experience: a plumber based in Kalgoorlie is sent 900km to fix one pipe in a community, does the job and then, without offering his services to anyone else there, turns around and drives back. A school has too much food for its breakfast program, but reducing the oversupply is bureaucratically impossible and the surplus food mountain continues to grow. A plane flies in from Alice Springs to take a girl to boarding school, but no one has arranged the pick-up and it flies back without her.

    Episodes of this kind are familiar features of remote community life. What is less familiar is Purtill’s willingness to describe the pattern.

    His observations lead him to his theory: the entire Ngaanyatjarra region, he argues, has now become a special “operational space” where a greatly transformed post-traditional Aboriginal society interacts with the Western administrative culture. Much of this interaction is nominal, rather than real.

    Training, employment, schooling, governance — the Ngaanyatjarra themselves tend to be apathetic towards these activities, and participate only when benefits, in the form of a barbecue, perhaps, or a sitting fee, are on offer. New programs aimed at community development come and go in quick succession. Work by ­locals on local projects is often skipped or poorly done, school attendance is low, the official claims of success and progress in economic or educational ventures are facade claims, quite at variance with reality.

    From the review, posted by Old School Conservative. Frightening reading, indeed. Just remind me how many billion dollars a year this circus costs the Australian taxpayer?

  170. notafan

    Like Husic said

    at that point the issue is becoming feral

  171. Stimpson J. Cat

    I do not believe Josh is in fact a Hungarian citizen, even if his mother had an entitlement to claim such under the 1993 law, I don’t hold it against him for not knowing, and I believe that he did not know.

    Beliefs are irrelevant.
    The law is the law.
    It’s his job to follow the f$cking rules.
    It’s why we pay him the big bucks.

  172. Andreas

    It’s the Entitlement to claim foreign citizenship that is at issue, notafan.

    I don’t think entitlement to claim citizenship is an issue, Canavan was entitled to claim Italian citizenship via his grandmother (from memory) and was okayed by the High Court.

  173. Bill Thompson

    I was waiting out the front of their ABC this morning, to see if I could congratulate Mark Dreyfus on the victory for his preferred position in the SSM plebiscite but I was disappointed when he simply drove past & around into Moore Street, to use the secure carpark. At least it’s an improvement on that time when he simply parked in a “No Standing” zone near the back door, for his own convenience (see my “Laws only apply to the little people!” video) & that other time he spat in the street outside my apartment building (see my “Golly-gate” at Southbank!” video). Also, cheers to Mark for driving himself around in an Aussie-built car, rather than poncing about in a chauffeur-driven limo, at great expense to the taxpayer. Mind you – there’s a tram stop near their ABC’s front door, so he could have taken public transport & avoided emitting all those filthy, disgusting, extra CO2 emissions, as those leftie pollies are always lecturing us to do…

    https://youtu.be/YGtPyCCS4AI

  174. Slayer of Memes

    Poor mUnty…

    The whole ‘WUSSIAN COLLUSION!!’ narrative is going down faster than a Krispy Kreme into his fat gob…

    Case Closed: FBI says Sessions didn’t have to reveal Russia talks

    The FBI has put to bed a controversy whipped up by liberal critics of Attorney General Jeff Sessions over his contacts with foreign officials including Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak during the 2016 presidential campaign.

    An FBI email released through the Freedom of Information Act said that Sessions had no obligation to reveal any contacts with foreign officials unless he “developed personal relationships” with them.

    The bottom line: His two contacts with Kislyak in 2016 did not have to be revealed to the FBI on his SF-86 security clearance application, part of his confirmation process.

    Sessions has repeatedly denied that he talked about the campaign with the Russian, but critics have continued to question his decision to not list them on his SF-86, which contains a box to check for contacts.

    The email confirms statements from Justice staffers that Sessions did not need to check the foreign contacts box.

    It does not list any name, but the “From” line reads “FBI.” It is dated March 7, 2017.

    The email references a question asked by Sessions aide Peggi Hanrahan about previously asking if the attorney general needed to list is foreign contacts on the SF-86.

    While the FBI official didn’t recall any prior discussions, the email said Sessions did the right thing.
    “For the purposes of the SF-86, he was not required to list foreign government contacts while on official government business unless he developed personal relationships from such contacts,” said the FBI official in the email.

    Sessions has never said the talks were more than in his capacity as a senator from Alabama and that he was not pals with the Russian ambassador.

    Keep fucking that ‘WUSSIA’ chicken mUnty…

    You.
    Fat.
    Fucking.
    DICKHEAD.

  175. cohenite

    At least it’s an improvement on that time when he simply parked in a “No Standing” zone near the back door, for his own convenience (see my “Laws only apply to the little people!” video) & that other time he spat in the street outside my apartment building (see my “Golly-gate” at Southbank!” video).

    What?! He spat in front of your building.

  176. cynical1

    Calls for all boys to be given the vaccine for the human papilloma virus.

    Anal cancer rates are increasing rapidly, the hpv and trying it to see if you like it, as encouraged in safe schools linked it seems.

    Surely that is an urban myth?

    I don’t know any of my schoolmates who would have thought “Hmm, wonder if I would enjoy being sodomised”?

    Still, that was in Queensland, Victorians seem to enjoy a good reaming.

  177. calli

    That isn’t logical

    If they knew he would have repudiated, why ever would he not?

    After all the shenanigans we’ve witnessed? Politicians are a law unto themselves. They suppose.

  178. cohenite

    Bolt’s interview with Milo; Bolt at 8.20 is concerned Milo juxtaposed Jessica Rowe’s image with a tough looking male model to impugn her; Milo explains, no, the tough male model was in fact Rowe:

  179. Slayer of Memes

    Happy Birthday DoomLord

    Have a (Potentially) Great Day….

  180. calli

    I believe that he did not know.

    That could be true, on reflection. The citizenship issue involved older family members, some of whom would not want to rake over it with the younger ones. I know one who still suffers episodes of PTSD, coming out in old age.

    In which case Frydenberg has been Barnaby-ed.

    And no, I’m not being feral, just trying to unpick a Gordian knot, without much success.

  181. notafan

    I wasn’t accussing you of being feral Calli

    I know that the episode has caused Frydenberg’s mother great distress and it makes me feel sick.

    Not talking about their wars would be a defense mechanism I am sure.

    I remember my ex saying there were no dogs allowed at Montefiore homes, back in the 1980s, for the fears that they triggered.

  182. notafan

    I suppose some would argue that Trump should not upset them, but then that is the point of terrorism, isn’t it

    Death to America, again

  183. some would argue that Trump should not upset them

    Some would argue their heads appear above the parapet when they are upset.
    You know where they are.

  184. Rae

    Ed Husic says no worries

    Husic is a good friend of Frydenberg, has been for years.

  185. Re Purtill the review in the Oz of his book is no doubt troubling for readers who have opinions and no experience, except maybe for an expensive drift past Broome and claiming to know the outback.
    The reality is more shocking.

  186. Baldrick

    Rae
    #2580964, posted on December 10, 2017 at 3:21 pm

    Oh fuck off Grigory 1234

  187. notafan

    On one hand we have a list of very very bad ‘abuse’ fillums and on the other a young porn actress was hounded to her death for refusing to have sex on screen with a homosexual man (presumably because of a well founded fear of increased likelihood of contracting disease), that abuse continues still on social media against her family.

    It’s a Wonderful Life makes the list of films because it contains scenes in which ‘a man chases a housekeeper and insists he is in love with her’ and because a woman is ogled on the street.

    It really is a wonder

    Cambridge students create database sexual abuse films

  188. Oh come on

    Billionaire Leon Cooperman: If Hillary Clinton had won the presidency, the US would be in a recession

    If Hillary Clinton had won the 2016 presidential election, the U.S. would be experiencing a recession today, billionaire hedge fund manager Leon Cooperman told CNBC on Thursday.

    The nation is better off with President Donald Trump in the White House than it would have been under Clinton or her 2016 rival for the Democratic nomination, Sen. Bernie Sanders, contended Cooperman.

    The chairman and CEO of Omega Advisors said his thinking heading into the election was, “‘I don’t know what I’ll get with Donald Trump, but I’ll take my chances.'” Cooperman said he’s a registered independent. “I think personally if Hillary Clinton had won, we’d be in a recession today,” he said on “Fast Money Halftime Report.”

    Cooperman said he’d vote for Trump again over Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren, who is speculated to run in the 2020 election.

    Trump deserves “a lot” of the credit for the stock market run since the November election, he added. “The intelligent people who voted for Donald Trump a year ago, ‘said I know what I’ll get when I get Hillary. I don’t want it.'”

    Cooperman also on commented Barack Obama, saying the 44th president had a “foot on the throat of the economy.”

    The biggest risk to Trump and the Republican Party is not passing a tax bill before the 2018 midterm elections, he said. Trump and the GOP leaders in the House and Senate hope to have the tax cuts package signed into law by Christmas.

    Seems like a smart man.

  189. cohenite

    Apparently Malcolm Roberts did not make a valid renunciation of British citizenship because he did not send his renunciation to the right bureaucracy and did not pay the fee; pp 82 – 100:

    Re Roberts [2017] HCA 39 22 September 2017 C14/2017

  190. cohenite

    Finally!

    The gay Muslim furry romance novel we have all been waiting for:

    http://amp.slate.com/blogs/outward/2017/01/13/the_time_he_desires_gay_muslim_furry_romance_is_a_book_against_the_trump.html?__twitter_impression=true

    From the link:

    Muslims, queers, and furries all share the experience of having been marginalized by the mainstream, and of being continually forced to justify their existence. But just as public opinion on LGBTQ folks has softened over the last few years, furries seem to be enjoying a break as well.

    People are hopeless; muslims are not victims, except of other muslims; and are not marginalised; they do the marginalising; and fucking furries: FMD.

  191. Bob Katter is up in arms about crocs again. Again and at the risk of being repetitious, people go to the coast in the north of Oz to pay through the nose to be in a resort and like to say they know the country. Stingers urakanji crocs disease carrying mozzies and strange people who are here because they were born here and stranger ones who moved here are generally not sighted at the insulated nooks the tourists find themselves. A mob asked me during the week if I would like to join them on a quick couple hundred k drive to Charters, swing a righty and rip down to Townsville for the weekend. They are out of their minds and getting paid way too much for their worth in a coastal location anywhere south of Gympie. My time limited contracts into the inland are for the $$$s which I keep for use when I’m back at the beach.

  192. rickw

    Nothing makes you more aware to the plight of sub-Saharan Africans than a late night machete attack.

    Does this mean that all the problems with Africa relate to Africans themselves?!

    Parachute them to a new environment and exactly the same traits play out!

  193. DrBeauGan

    Cohenite, the whackos have a higher profile these days and feel free to exhibit their derangements. That isn’t a reason to pay them any attention. They’re still twisted sickos. Laugh at them.

  194. Zatara

    One dead poley bear does not a climate catastrophe make

    Indeed, especially when their rapidly growing numbers have become a issue with the Inuits who have to deal with them.

    Inuit Observe ‘Too Many Polar Bears Now’

    Fact is, not only are the Alaska natives seeing too many bears proliferating, but so are the scientists who study them. Professor Susan Crockford of the University of Victory has observed the proliferation of bears, and far from saying they are endangered, she concludes they “are not at risk,” which, of course, got her attacked by ideological leftists and those for whom global warming is a religion.

  195. testpattern

    ‘Menzies was by nature a political vagabond…in a country that, left to him alone, would have become an annexed and vanquished part of the empire of Japan.’

    Good to see Paul Keating catching up to me. He writes in the Weekend Oz, correctly, that Menzies and Brudenell White were defeatists, analogous to my use of the word ‘waverer’ to describe those who considered accepting Axis victory until the US intervened to help us. Not only Brudenell White but Lord Guthrie should receive far more scrutiny.

    There were of course some who did more than waver – Axis sympathisers and collaborators -and Keating should now turn his attention to those elements, particularly strong in WA. These WA elements weren’t worried about trifling charges like treason, they’d already done the real thing by backing secession. Had they won, Japan would’ve walked in without a shot, welcomed with open arms by some of of WA’s leading anti communist and anti semitic conservative political families.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/…/menzies…defeatism…record/

  196. testpattern

    ‘the outback’

    there is no such thing and I’ve never heard anyone even say that word.

  197. Baldrick

    How is it that KFC are allowed to have Halal stores that don’t serve bacon to anyone, yet when a Christian baker refuses to sell a homo-hoedown wedding cake, it’s seen as a hate crime?

  198. Viva

    Absurdity piled on absurdity. Barnaby is a Kiwi and now Josh is a Hungarian. These are the “pound of flesh rules” demanded under the absurdist section 44. That Shorten does not want to pursue Frydenberg is an acknowledgement of this

  199. testpattern

    Post-Marawi Lessons from Detained Extremists in the Philippines

    IS in the Philipines – Christian converts and Uni students

    ‘The Mautes made a point of recruiting and training Muslim converts (Balik Islam) from Luzon. When one of the Davao suspects underwent his first month-long training course in Butig in July 2016, he noted:
    The forces in the base are comprised mostly of Maranaos followed by forces from Maguindanao, Balik Islam from Luzon and about 9 followers of Abu Sharifah from Sarangani.’

    http://file.understandingconflict.org/file/2017/11/IPAC_Report_41_Davao.pdf

  200. wivenhoe

    ‘the outback’
    there is no such thing and I’ve never heard anyone even say that word.

    Has to rate as one of the funniest things I have ever heard in my lifetime.

  201. strange people who are here because they were born here and stranger ones

    I have observed that far north qld has more than its fair share.

  202. Infidel Tiger

    Testes, who the devil are you talking to?

  203. testpattern

    ‘The Phase One agreement has forestalled talk of the negotiations betraying the spirit of Brexit (although Nigel Farage has been quick out of the blocks to castigate the deal as an unacceptable national humiliation).

    But 96 years on from the conclusion of the Treaty that established the Irish Free State, we can now be confident that such talk is inevitable.’

    https://sluggerotoole.com/2017/12/09/proceed-to-phase-two-all-systems-go-for-brexit/

  204. calli

    That Shorten does not want to pursue Frydenberg is an acknowledgement of this

    If Kooyong was a marginal seat, Shorten would be baying for blood.

    Meanwhile, Labor citizenship skeletons are rattling in the cupboard.

  205. Farmer Gez

    Get off the Yippee beans Testes.
    You’re fawning after that greasy pervert Keating (of the 20% interest).
    Brudenell White died on 13th August 1940. An honourable soldier and not to be sullied by a clock collecting cock botherer.

  206. testpattern

    Senate Inquiry moving closer to Assange shill Murray

    ‘I am therefore most amused that my friend Randy Credico, who stayed with Nadira and I in Edinburgh a few months ago, has now been subpoenaed by the Senate Inquiry on Russian meddling as the alleged go-between for Roger Stone and Julian Assange, on the brilliant grounds that he knows both of them.’

    https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2017/12/russophobia-goes-comic/

  207. calli

    ‘the outback’
    there is no such thing and I’ve never heard anyone even say that word.

    Press the little red button and then you’ll know what it sounds like.

  208. Stimpson J. Cat

    there is no such thing and I’ve never heard anyone even say that word.

    Of course you haven’t city boi.

  209. P

    the outback

    The only time I’ve ever heard the term ‘the outback’ was in ref to the Outback Steakhouse.
    I’ve been many times over the years to the one on the Old Windsor Road and earlier this year went to the one at North Strathfield (in the old Arnott’s Biscuit factory).
    Both good.

  210. ‘the outback’
    there is no such thing and I’ve never heard anyone even say that word.

    The outback is certainly contracting, if there’s any remaining at all.
    This doesn’t stop the terminology expanding to include areas which never previously were thought of, o.
    I hear the word “outback” a fair bit. But not from people who actually live in it, and mostly it is not used to refer to the “outback”.
    I’ve heard it used to refer to “inside” country, eg. Singleton, Mullumbimby, Moree, Port Douglas, & other such places.

    In a conversation between two “outback” folk, where there’s no outsiders present, & the conversation isn’t about others… very rare to hear the word “outback”.

  211. outback

    I have heard it.

    Me: “Where is the crapper?”
    Barman: “Outback”

  212. areff

    Get off the Yippee beans, Testes.

    Given Test Pattern’s perpetual demonstrations of his Indigenous savvy (as in “saveloy” — an offal tube stuffed with crap of dubious origin), you’d best retract that remark before he takes the other hand off his old fella and types a formal letter of complaint to the AHRC.

    It’s culturally insensitive to say he’s whacked on the Yippee beans. Make it pituri and he’ll be happy as, er, a clam.

  213. Farmer Gez

    The Outback Club. Lee Kernaghan.
    A professor of bushology.

  214. P

    folk

    That’s another word I never grew up with. Unless in ref to ‘folk songs’.

  215. P

    I am familiar with ‘Back o’ Bourke’ and ‘There’s a track winding back’.

  216. nemkat

    On the one hand, Labor pols cry fake tears over no Australian child being able to aspire to be Head of State, on the other they steadfastly refuse to renounce their multiple foreign citizenships.
    Do they know something the rest of us don’t, or is Australia merely flyover country to them?

  217. Boambee John

    test pattern at 1554

    describe those, patricularly on the political left, who considered accepting Axis victory until the Germans invaded the soviet Union in June 1942.

    Fixed that for you Seaman Staines.

  218. Zatara

    Folk comes from the word volk.

    People with Afrikaner, Dutch, or Germanic heritage will be familiar with it.

  219. P

    Folk comes from the word volk.
    People with Afrikaner, Dutch, or Germanic heritage will be familiar with it.

    I was married for 42yrs to a Dutchman. He was 22 when he arrived here and spoke little English.
    I do not recall him ever using “folk”.

  220. Zatara

    You should have let him talk more.

  221. P

    You should have let him talk more.

    Good one Zatara! My family esp our kids would love that one.

  222. a reader

    Saw my first A-Frame for the upcoming mainland tasmania election today. It seems weak and useless Steven Marshall has gone for the Talkbull Liberal Team format. Talk about a lay down misere for Xenophonecall and bloody Weatherdill. Given a poll showed The not-Greek, not-English, not-Cypriot, not-FYRMacedonian man is the preferred premier for SA they probably deserve what they get.

  223. ‘There’s a track winding back’

    I recall an old digger work song that went like:

    “There’s a crack winding back to her lower back …”

  224. Do they know something the rest of us don’t, or is Australia merely flyover country to them?

    They’re mostly Latham’s “tourists”.

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