Monday Forum: December 11, 2017

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  1. Makka

    So what though?

    They are all easily bought, that’s so what. As if these bastards weren’t corrupt enough, they (the SLF) are taking Communist money to get themselves elected. You think they hand over the dough out of the goodness of their hearts? Other than seeking to influence the elected Gov’t , why would the Chinese give a toss about our elections?

    ALL donations from foreign nationals/entities should be banned completely.

  2. Oh come on

    “The entire area was stolen from Genoa by the frogs in the mid 1800’s.

    Napoleon pinched a buttload of Italian art and culture from northern Italy. The Louvre would be mostly empty if it wasn’t for all the gear ‘acquired’ by the little Corsican.

  3. Baldrick

    Delta A
    #2583015, posted on December 12, 2017 at 7:09 pm
    We hit 27 in the terrifying South Australian heat. Cooling now… ah! Noice.
    Not saying where we are, not because I’m worried all you fun Cats will drop in for drinkies, but mainly because… well, I think you know why.

    Sad to have to protect your identity on the Cat, but very necessary from a certain stalker Delta.

  4. Oh come on

    Oh, I saw a Youtube clip of that violinist JC and Johanna like to rumble over. What’s his name? Andre Rieu or whatever. God he’s awful! What’s with all the poncing about, conducting and playing? And his silly clothes! And the audience looked like a bunch of cockheads, all teary and waving their air batons wildly.

  5. Leigh Lowe

    Bladrick – one of the comments in your linked tweet:
    Replying to @MarkDice
    …and blew his own nads off. He is now qualified to be a Democrat.
    Wondering if this is true, and if medicos in NY City are desperately trying to sew them back on. A spare eunuch for the harem I would say.

    72 virgins and no tackle.
    Sad.

  6. egg_

    The aircon is doing its duty, about 21C where I sit. Regular readers might like to know that the portable unit I bought for the bedroom is doing the job just fine.

    Good to hear it’s doing its best against the BOM’s “Dreaded Heat(TM)”.

  7. Oh come on

    In general, I think it’s best to keep the high brow high, don’t lower it to middle for the fans. Cheesy.

  8. Oh come on

    medicos in NY City are desperately trying to sew them back on.

    To his forehead, you’d hope.

  9. JC

    As usual, JC allows personal animus to cloud his judgement, such as it is.

    According to JC, bangers and mash is a ‘regional’ dish, as is bacon and eggs.

    What a dickhead.

    She’s lying of course. It’s not from personal dislike of her (which of course is true) why I countered her nonsense.. Suggesting major dishes are not regional is stupid shit and I dislike stupid shit more than I dislike her.

    Let’s go back to the tape and remind people what she said.

    But as I’m sure you know, Tinta, ‘Italian cooking’ is merely a huge agglomeration of regional cuisines, with wide variations on even standard dishes.

    So are dishes from every major/important cuisine in the world.

  10. Leigh Lowe

    Good to hear it’s doing its best against the BOM’s “Dreaded Heat(TM)”.

    When it comes to temperatures 30 is the new 40.

  11. Oh come on

    Sad to have to protect your identity on the Cat, but very necessary from a certain stalker Delta.

    Too right, Balders. I’m sure it didn’t escape your notice that he as good as admitted he was Rae all along in an attempt to ruin Lizzie’s cruise by not so subtly intimating that he might be on board. What a slimeball.

  12. JC

    They are all easily bought, that’s so what. As if these bastards weren’t corrupt enough, they (the SLF) are taking Communist money to get themselves elected. You think they hand over the dough out of the goodness of their hearts? Other than seeking to influence the elected Gov’t , why would the Chinese give a toss about our elections?

    ALL donations from foreign nationals/entities should be banned completely.

    Outside of Pyne, I can’t imagine anyone on the Libs getting bought. You’re diagnosis is not true. The Liars though… everyone in the party is vulnerable because it’s a corrupt party by nature and to it’s core.

    The best thing to do would be to ban the ALP from accepting any donations at all.

  13. Oh come on

    The Andre Rieu audience were as irritating as the faggy little xunt himself.

  14. johanna

    Oh come on
    #2583043, posted on December 12, 2017 at 7:45 pm

    Oh, I saw a Youtube clip of that violinist JC and Johanna like to rumble over. What’s his name? Andre Rieu or whatever. God he’s awful! What’s with all the poncing about, conducting and playing? And his silly clothes! And the audience looked like a bunch of cockheads, all teary and waving their air batons wildl

    Shrug.

    Multi, multi, multi millionaire doesn’t care what you think in the privacy of Mom’s basement, OCO.

    FWIW, Rieu is a pretty good violinist, could get a job in a symphony orchestra anywhere.

  15. min

    All set for the harem I would think.
    Stop knocking Andre he is the closest most of that audience would get to “classical” music, judging by those here I have met that go to all his concerts.

  16. JC

    Oh, I saw a Youtube clip of that violinist JC and Johanna like to rumble over. What’s his name? Andre Rieu or whatever. God he’s awful! What’s with all the poncing about, conducting and playing? And his silly clothes! And the audience looked like a bunch of cockheads, all teary and waving their air batons wildly.

    The prick’s back here this summer, ready to fleece our bogan social strata who think it’s wonderful classical music. I heard the annoying Frank Walker from National Tiles -like ad over the past week peddling his shows.
    I hope the hair monster has a heart attack on stage.

  17. johanna

    JC, what part of every dish is regional are you walking back from?

  18. A few things
    ALilbita Pizza- make em tiny and tell the hipsters it’s a small step to fix Dangerous Climate Change ™ previously known as Global Warming, put goats cheese on it and tell the fatties it’s part of a sensible diet. Charge like a rhino with reduced product costs due to size reduction.
    Dastyari is a piece of shit but hey, what’s news?
    Caught up by email with a Murri mate in the Maranoa today for seasons greetings etc. tp would be well served to meet doers and realists and stop blathering on with victimology.
    Yep it seems the main game with the rash of SexVictims (C) and the ensuing media mania witch hunt stuff was to condition the sheep to have an opinion and when the time was right revisit Trump. By hook or by crook as the saying used to be.

  19. Oh come on

    Multi, multi, multi millionaire doesn’t care what you think in the privacy of Mom’s basement, OCO.

    Oh it was you who liked him – couldn’t remember if JC ribbed you for thinking he was great or vice versa (sorry JC). Hey, good luck to him, I don’t give a shit.

  20. JC

    JC, what part of every dish is regional are you walking back from?

    I’m not. In fact I’m making a point of emphasizing it. It was you who made the comment that Italian cuisine is regionally based in origin, as though it was a revelation rivaling the Bible’s. Stop babbling and go to bed.

  21. John Constantine

    Their Julie Bishop would have a very interesting donor list.

    Australia’s foreign policy under Bishop has ignored American hopes, suggestions and recent outright multilateral initiatives to do anything about the massive Chinese influence being bribed and bought in the pacific island nations.

    Australia’s foreign policy is Bishop flying to London Paris and New York to sign binding conventions to deindustrialise Australia and buy everything from China.

    When Australia’s foreign minister has a phone full of contact details for Chinese donors, but can’t ring anybody that knows the American president, that tells us all we need to know.

  22. Baldrick

    Bladrick – one of the comments in your linked tweet:
    Replying to @MarkDice
    …and blew his own nads off. He is now qualified to be a Democrat.
    Wondering if this is true, and if medicos in NY City are desperately trying to sew them back on. A spare eunuch for the harem I would say.

    No nuts, no glory.

  23. johanna

    Oh, and could you please identify the region that owns bacon and eggs?

    As usual, your mouth shot off long before the brain was engaged.

  24. Boambee John

    Does anyone know how many of Palacechook’s seats were won on PHON preferences?

    If any were, given that the Liars regard PHON as beyond the pale, will she refuse to accept their votes in Parliament?

    Do I need to add sarc to the second para?

  25. Oh come on

    Yeah, that hair. Lookin’ good, Amadeus. So he’s coming over here and play the old favourites as well as some new hits like the theme tune to Game Of Thrones etc. If he comes to Perth, he’ll play the Crown ballroom, no doubt. All his fans will stampede over to the gaming tables and slot machines after the show. Convenient!

  26. JC

    Oh it was you who liked him – couldn’t remember if JC ribbed you for thinking he was great or vice versa (sorry JC).

    Seriously, this is as annoying as seeing monster on the golf course. It makes me want to break that violin over his fucking head.

  27. cohenite

    When Australia’s foreign minister has a phone full of contact details for Chinese donors, but can’t ring anybody that knows the American president, that tells us all we need to know.

    Good point. I’d hate to be hanging from a cliff with that bitch holding the rope.

  28. JC

    johanna
    #2583066, posted on December 12, 2017 at 8:02 pm

    Oh, and could you please identify the region that owns bacon and eggs?

    We possibly can’t just like it would be difficult to identify who first started eating caviar – or its early equivalent. Was it the early Greeks or the Persians?

    Do you know? Of course you don’t, which is why you need to head off to bed.

  29. Tel

    Oh, and could you please identify the region that owns bacon and eggs?

    If it’s good quality bacon, and massive eggs, both cooked in a haphazard manner but generally given fire until they crisp, then Australia!

    If it’s horrible watery bacon and weird eggs cooked on an underpowered little stove until they turn to rubber then that’s regional to the UK.

  30. calli

    Rieu Wars! The Hair Monster. Go guys!

    On tucker, nothing beats the Australian variation of spag bog – better than the original and the food of champions.

  31. John Constantine

    Their alp just tell their foreign donors to pay the special activist groups set up to bend the rules.

    Activists then spend the money campaigning for leftist political victory.

    Like the big crony companies paying the unions.

    Their Shortfilth specially organised get up to beat the donations laws.

  32. Oh come on

    Seriously, this is as annoying as seeing monster on the golf course. It makes me want to break that violin over his fucking head.

    What a wanker. Seems to think he’s Fabio with a Stradivarius.

  33. JC

    Tel

    Are you feeebasing? I had the best, like I mean the very best bacon&eggs and mushrooms in London in June this year. I went back again the next day it was so good. My kid reckons they have wonderful bacon&eggs. Far superior than we do. The bacon strip was thick, but not too thick. It was absolutely fucking perfect and never had an equivalent in oz.

  34. Chris

    When Australia’s foreign minister has a phone full of contact details for Chinese donors, but can’t ring anybody that knows the American president, that tells us all we need to know.

    And our media think the US paying $1.23 to start Quadrant in 1948 is CIA malfeasance.

  35. Makka

    You’re diagnosis is not true.

    It’s 100% correct. If you don’t think the Chinese aren’t buying influence you’re an idiot.

  36. Bron

    What a wanker. Seems to think he’s Fabio with a Stradivarius.

    That would be this character:

  37. JC

    It’s 100% correct. If you don’t think the Chinese aren’t buying influence you’re an idiot.

    It’s not even .1% correct when applying your argument to the Libs (xing out Pyne). Of course the Chinese are trying to buy influence, but it’s not getting them anywhere with the Libs.

    Nothing wrong with taking their money if nothing comes out of it. It’s a smart play.

  38. Snoopy

    The ABC is very keen on victims of sexual abuse being paid compensation. Did the ABC ever pay compensation to Peter Roebuck’s victims?

  39. Tel

    I had the best, like I mean the very best bacon&eggs and mushrooms in London in June this year.

    Duh! That’s with mushroom. She didn’t ask about mushroom, you are talking about a completely different regional specialty.

    Besides, arguable whether London even counts as part of the UK anymore, ask around if you don’t believe me. I was talking about traditional UK that we all grew up with.

  40. johanna

    The prick’s back here this summer, ready to fleece our bogan social strata who think it’s wonderful classical music. I heard the annoying Frank Walker from National Tiles -like ad over the past week peddling his shows.
    I hope the hair monster has a heart attack on stage.

    Elitists like JC just hate the idea that someone could make classical music palatable to the masses, and, worse still make money in the process!

    I refer JC to the Looney Tunes cartoons, which did the same thing. All those Jooish artists and writers and musical score producers used the classics all the time in ‘vulgar’ ways. To make money.

    Shocking, eh? So lacking in taste.

    Coming from a half-Arab from the arse end of Italy with more hair on his back than Cousin Itt had on the head.

  41. nemkat

    Just listened to Floyd Cramer’s ”on the rebound”.
    Geezers alive in 1961 would know that tune.

  42. Oh come on

    From his Wiki entry:

    Garrett was born in Aachen, Germany…David Garrett has been accused of “physical injury and abnormal sexual practices” [18] by former girlfriend Ashley Youdan (a porn star also known by her stage name Kendall Karson) who claimed he had sex with transsexuals, used cocaine, broke her rib during sex, tried to hire a sexual slave and forced her to drink his urine

    Believe the women! Fucking Krauts, they’re all freaks.

  43. Chris

    May I just put in a word on ‘Fabio with a violin’?

    Its fucken schmaltz, but very good quality schmaltz and if 2,000,000 people want to dress up in ballgowns and pearls and go hear him I say every ‘kaching’ is good and well earned.

    Reminds me of a certain artist at her opening, whining becausehers were not showing many red stickers but the other opening that night would see the students selling to their cousins and uncles down from the farms.
    And I said sweetly that folding money is certainly very sincere applause. And lo, when we got to that that show the poor but academic artist was right, they were selling, and my wife had sold the most expensive work in the show with no cousins involved at all!

  44. JC

    Elitists like JC just hate the idea that someone could make classical music palatable to the masses, and, worse still make money in the process!

    Lol.. according to Johanna everything the bogan masses do is tasteful…. like traveling to Bali using Jetstar.

    Shocking, eh? So lacking in taste.

    Going to a hair monster concert is deserving of a few fingers being removed with a sharp knife. I’m a humanitarian that way.

    Coming from a half-Arab from the arse end of Italy with more hair on his back than Cousin Itt had on the head.

    Isn’t this getting a little long in the tooth? Go to bed Johanna. It’s way past your bedtime.

  45. Boambee John

    Makka at 1941

    I am now confused.

    Are you talking about the Stupid F***ing Liberals (SFL) or the Liars, party of the Senior Labor Figure (SLF)?

    These acronyms are so easily confused. The actual difference between the two parties, of course, is so minor that the confusion probably doesn’t matter.

  46. JC

    Duh! That’s with mushroom.

    You need some veggies in your diet. 🙂

  47. Oh come on

    if 2,000,000 people want to dress up in ballgowns and pearls and go hear him I say every ‘kaching’ is good and well earned.

    Absolutely! As I said before, good luck to the man. I’m sure he’s perfectly happy avoiding the ‘suffering’ part of the ‘I’m suffering for my art’-type artistic lifestyle.

  48. johanna

    nothing beats the Australian variation of spag bog

    And, that would be what? Big call there.

    As for JC, he has beclowned himself yet again, so I will let it go (as far as food is concerned.)

    His hatred of people making money in ways he doesn’t approve of is still in the sights, though. 🙂

  49. Makka

    When Australia’s foreign minister has a phone full of contact details for Chinese donors, but can’t ring anybody that knows the American president, that tells us all we need to know.

    Spot on.

    Yet JC wants everyone believe the Libs are honest brokers because Libs aren’t Labor. One hour on Q&A doesn’t make a PM or a Govt.

  50. JC

    Look, I’m not begrudging the hair monster. He found a shtick, which is to entertain the bogan strata with waltzes and he’s possibly making some okay money doing it. But let’s recognize it for what it is… bogan waltzing.

  51. Makka

    Yes, Boambee John. Thanks for correcting me.

  52. calli

    And, that would be what? Big call there.

    It’s what comes from your own kitchen, Joh. Every little one wants mum’s spag bog, it’s their first choice. And it’s so easy to sneak vegetables into it. Meat, dairy, roughage and it all goes down with a smile.

  53. JC

    His hatred of people making money in ways he doesn’t approve of is still in the sights, though. 🙂

    That’s a meaningless, thoughtless comment that only a former APS employee would come up with. There are lots of jobs i don’t like where people make lots of undeserved money. The APS would be a good example. 🙂 Sniveling subsidy whores in the renball industry would be another.

    The thing about the hair monster is that I don’t like his shtick, but I wouldn’t get the state to ban him.

  54. JC

    When Australia’s foreign minister has a phone full of contact details for Chinese donors, but can’t ring anybody that knows the American president, that tells us all we need to know.

    That’s very silly. The history behind was that no one expected Trump to win the election and so government minsters weren’t able to contact him immediately.

  55. Geriatric Mayfly

    The ABC is very keen on victims of sexual abuse being paid compensation. Did the ABC ever pay compensation to Peter Roebuck’s victims?

    Of course not. Roebuck was guided by a previous ABC Managing Director who stated that men will interfere with those younger than themselves. They just can’t help themselves and their proclivities are out of bounds for the censorious.

  56. Makka

    You’re sounding more like Boris everyday , JC. Is he your sock puppet?

  57. JC

    Makka

    Suggesting the Libs could be bought is just fake news. Stop it.

  58. JC

    Johanna

    Question.. has the hair monster done a show in Canberra? Just asking and not leading to anything.

  59. Tel

    You’re sounding more like Boris everyday , JC. Is he your sock puppet?

    Let me check… “Look… there goes Putin!

    See what happens.

  60. Gab

    Catallaxy’s own Wussiagate! in progress.

  61. johanna

    JC
    #2583099, posted on December 12, 2017 at 8:31 pm

    Look, I’m not begrudging the hair monster. He found a shtick, which is to entertain the bogan strata with waltzes and he’s possibly making some okay money doing it. But let’s recognize it for what it is… bogan waltzing.

    You are just like the bowtie snobs who have run the Republican Party through successive defeats, and hate Trump because he is ‘vulgar.’

    My parents are fans of Rieu, and both of them have forgotten more about classical music than you will ever know, you peasant with a credit card. The old man has a vast collection of classical music, and I was listening to it before I could speak.

    They don’t regard his shows as the same as von Karajan doing Beethoven, but they enjoy them as light entertainment.

    Stick to restaurant reviews, is my advice.

  62. JC

    I know people here don’t like him, but don’t underestimate what Macron could do in France. If he succeeds, then similar stuff could cascade into Italy and perhaps even Spain.

    Macron’s Polling Revival
    Could free-market reform actually be popular in France?

    Europe could be a yuge freaking winner in the next several years.

  63. hzhousewife

    fwiw, Jamie Oliver’s ingredients for pizza dough include semolina and 00 flour both available at my local Woolies. I followed his youtube method recently and was very happy with the result.

  64. Rae

    As everyone knows, the Libs are less likely to be bought by the Chicoms

    Sure, Andrew Robb was the architect of the governments China-Australia Free Trade Agreement.

    An $880,000 pa job straight out of parliament with a Chinese billionaire whose company was allowed to take a 99 year lease on Darwin Harbour is evidence of nothing?

    Really?

  65. Tel

    Hey, you don’t have to like Putin, but you have to give him a few points for brains and leadership.

    So the USA went on and on with this “How to we get out of Iraq!” Where if they set a date then the bad guys hold tight and pop up after the given date, but if we don’t set a date we get a quagmire “as long as it takes” then we start with all the “cut and run” propaganda. On and on it goes, no plan, no objectives, no victory conditions. We are “training” the good guys, except the good guys turn out to be the bad guys. No one trusts anyone. Round and round and round.

    Putin just shows up in Syria, says, “It’s done, get out of here, go home!”

    Boooom, he’s spoken, finished.

  66. zyconoclast

    Does it smell of old lady and home brand moisturizer here again?

    Insert the word unwashed in front of the word old.

    Answer: Yes.

  67. JC

    Johanna

    I really don’t want to bring this up, but you once suggested you father dislikes J..ws. Really I don’t want to be pedantic, but he came from a country that killed off 95% of the j.wish population. I don’t think he has anything to teach me or anyone else about taste and behavior. Sorry, but that poodle doesn’t hunt.

    Furthermore, your comparison trick doesn’t work. As a former tax eater you are at the very bottom of the totem pole as far as I’m concerned. In fact you should be apologizing every day for your employment misdeed …..to all of us.

  68. Delta A

    On pizzas: Daughter makes superb pizza bases using SR Flour and Greek yoghurt.

    Just sayin’…

  69. Chris

    Its just as well Johanna needs no support from us to handle stuff, JC.

    But fuck it. I had to hold my nose to read that post.

  70. johanna

    Go shave your back, JC.

    You have beclowned yourself twice here in a few hours. It must be the prickly hairs that are impairing your judgement.

  71. zyconoclast

    The ABC is very keen on victims of sexual abuse being paid compensation. Did the ABC ever pay compensation to Peter Roebuck’s victims?

    He was also a long term SMH writer.

    I do admit that I enjoyed his commentary.

  72. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Spag bog is disgusting.

    Vook off, Grogarly.

  73. 132andBush

    Spag bog is disgusting

    As are psycho online stalkers.

  74. Would a smart punter only back one horse in a three horse race?
    Would it be better to put money on all three?
    Asking for a friend.

  75. Hydra

    Why are 99 year leases a thing? What is wrong with regular competitive tenders?

  76. JC

    The woman wheel-chair dancing at the 2.55 mark in the above vid is kinda cute I think. I wonder what happened to her.

  77. Makka

    Suggesting the Libs could be bought is just fake news. Stop it.

    You’re making a fool of yourself with your Turdball infatuation. It’s embarrassing to watch.

  78. Nick

    Spag bog is disgusting.

    Says the free buffet gastronome of Onanism of the Seas.

  79. JC

    You’re making a fool of yourself with your Turdball infatuation. It’s embarrassing to watch.

    In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

    Liars are as equal on the Left as Corbyn’s I’ll take the one-eyed man even he has bubonic plague.
    Fact true:

    Libs are not going to sell this country down the river to the Chicoms. The Liars would, in a heart beat.

  80. Infidel Tiger

    Spag bog is disgusting.

    Out of a can from Aldi? Sure.

  81. John Constantine

    The history is that Australian tax dollars funded the Clinton crime family, Australian tax dollars put redfilth gillard on stage, beaming alongside the hildebeast.

    Their turnbullites couldn’t contact the republican president of the United States, because they had backed the left all the way.

    We can see the policies their black handed turnbullites have inflicted on Australia, against the will of the proles. We can see the wealth that has landed in the laps of retired Australian politicians, straight from the Chinese communist party.

    Life is so easy when people just go along with the process, it is silly to say the Emperor has no clothes when you can be paid so well to praise his class and style and taste and tone.

    Fuckers are still strutting nude though.

  82. C.L.

    Palaszczuk wins election, dumps Adani.
    Queensland Labor to workers: drop dead.

  83. nemkat

    The Liars would, in a heart beat.
    They already had a go, in 1941, to sell us out to the Japs.
    The Yanks occupied the Country from 1942 to 1945 and prevented that, despite the best efforts of some of the Trade Unions.

  84. hzhousewife

    Palaszczuk wins election, dumps Adani.

    Palaszczuk wins election, dumps all of the State north of Bundaberg.

  85. jupes

    Putin just shows up in Syria, says, “It’s done, get out of here, go home!”

    He did this by prioritising the defeat of the enemy over winning the ‘moral’ high ground.

    The west were clueless up until that point.

  86. littledozer

    PML just put up a newswpoll on Benelong 39% primary for the stupid Liberals. If that is replicated on Saturday. 7% for Bernardi so will be a test to see how the preferences split and in my experience its never close to how Greens flow to Labor.

  87. Token

    Palaszczuk wins election, dumps Adani.
    Queensland Labor to workers: drop dead.

    Do Queenslanders aspire for more than a givernment job these days?

  88. nemkat

    Adani doesn’t stack up, has played out like the Peak Downs Scheme of the 50s, never got off the ground, never was going to get off the ground, hand in the Taxpayers pocket all the way.

  89. jupes

    The history is that Australian tax dollars funded the Clinton crime family, Australian tax dollars put redfilth gillard on stage, beaming alongside the hildebeast.

    Spot on John.

    Gillard gave millions of Australian taxpayer dollars to the Clintons, who returned the favour by giving hundreds of thousands of those dollars back to Gillard after she lost office. If that is not corruption then I don’t know what is.

    All legal though apparently.

  90. entropy

    hzhousewife
    #2583148, posted on December 12, 2017 at 9:36 pm
    Palaszczuk wins election, dumps Adani.

    Palaszczuk wins election, dumps all of the State north of Bundaberg.

    To be frank, curtesy of the north Queenslanders who ensured she got the most seats.

  91. egg_

    Spag bog is disgusting

    Sans fava beans and Chianti?

  92. egg_

    Token
    #2583151, posted on December 12, 2017 at 9:41 pm

    Welcome back.

  93. calli

    Token! How are the studies going?

  94. Snoopy

    Palaszczuk wins election, dumps Treasurer.

  95. Mother Lode

    Only ‘cos Grigoogry prepares it in a real bog.

    It’s just the way pedants think.

  96. H B Bear

    Believe the women! Fucking Krauts, they’re all freaks.

    Never trust anyone from a nation that inspects their own poo. Interestingly when a few of the little Perth miners turned themselves into internet pornographers and dildo retailers to try and raise a few more years of management fees a number of them also listed on the German stock exchange.

  97. John Constantine

    Bishop continued pouring money into the clinton crime family, funding redfilth Hillard’s retirement Rort all the way.

    Abiding by signed commitments to fund the transnational left with poor bastard bankrupt Australia’s last bit of credit left on the bankcard.

  98. H B Bear

    Surprised to see the Lieborals on 39% Primary in Bennelong. That is usually enough to get them over the line. Presumably Bernardi will direct AC preferences back to the Lieborals but I suspect a fair percentage will just ignore that.

  99. John Constantine

    The Australian economy cannot stand against the will of the Chinese communist party.

    If the chicom cut off supplying inputs, primary industry in Australia stops.

    In days, and collapses entirely in weeks.

    See how far a welfare services economy carries a trillion dollars of combined debt.

  100. H B Bear

    IT I think Graegooglery would go for the Aldi Bol-in-a-bag. He is a man of refined tastes.

  101. testpattern

    Qassem Soleimani’s letter to the US: Leave Syria or else! Could Al-Hasaka 2018 become Beirut 1983?

    ‘Al-Hasaka 2018 is being widely referred to, those 1983 events where hundreds of US Marines and French paratroopers were killed following double suicide attacks by Islamists in Beirut. The multinational forces became hostile rather than peacekeepers and were pushed to leave Lebanon in a rush as a consequence of this attack. The future could well mirror these past events.’

    https://elijahjm.wordpress.com/2017/12/09/qassem-soleimanis-letter-to-the-us-leave-syria-or-else-could-al-hasaka-2018-become-beirut-1983/

  102. Leigh Lowe

    fwiw, Jamie Oliver’s ingredients for pizza dough include semolina and 00 flour both available at my local Woolies. I followed his youtube method recently and was very happy with the result.

    My secret is out.
    Four parts 00 and one part semolina.

  103. candy

    The Australian economy cannot stand against the will of the Chinese communist party.

    I think it’s the racist talk of our government that is the problem.

    Even after all these decades with how many hundreds of thousands of Chinese Australians, working and contributing, doing nothing whatsoever illegal, the government deliberately invokes “yellow peril” and there it is – racism. It does make you wonder whether Australians are inherently racist after all and Turnbull/Dutton/Bishop are clever enough to capitalise on it?

  104. candy

    Well, not clever enough. But nasty enough.

  105. hzhousewife

    hzhousewife
    #2583148, posted on December 12, 2017 at 9:36 pm
    Palaszczuk wins election, dumps Adani.

    Palaszczuk wins election, dumps all of the State north of Bundaberg.

    To be frank, curtesy of the north Queenslanders who ensured she got the most seats.

    Yes, bizarre !

  106. hzhousewife

    My secret is out.
    Four parts 00 and one part semolina.

    Yum.

  107. JC

    We’re really, really important to China, John C. Much more so than they are to us, which is why they’re throwing money around.

    We’re actually very strategically important because of our minerals.

  108. Rae

    Bennelong poll = 50-50 two party preferred, 39-39 primary. It’s going to be an interesting weekend.

  109. zyconoclast

    Putin just shows up in Syria, says, “It’s done, get out of here, go home!”

    He did this by prioritising the defeat of the enemy over winning the ‘moral’ high ground.

    The west were clueless up until that point.

    I disagree. The west picked the wrong side. The picked the anti-Assad team and lost.

  110. nemkat

    Kristina Kennelly is the Candidate from Hell for the Liberal Party.
    Serves them right, in a way.
    Alexander is another celebrity candidate, he’s been trumped.

  111. cohenite

    The chook has canned adani eh? What a shithole of a country. Adani is one of the best coal deposits going round. It’s a pity a national consortium can’t develop it but I guess the our new masters, the chinese will be doing it.

  112. John Constantine

    The industrial espionage and intellectual property theft that has enriched the Chinese communist party is hardly doing nothing wrong.

    I love Chinese Australians individually, but almost none of them would act against the good of the Homeland. Especially if most of their family remains there under the control of the chicoms.

    Plus, the way Chinese organised crime is muscling out the bikies when it comes to growing dope and cooking ice in regional Victoria is undeniable.

  113. John Constantine

    Chinese organised crime in rural Victoria.

    Rent cheap house in small town.

    Send Chinese plumber to bypass the water meter for unmeasured water to grow dope.

    Send Chinese electrician to bypass the electricity meter for unmeasured power to grow dope.

    Put tough, silent Chinese national in the house to watch it. If busted , he serves his jail, gets deported, then paid for loyal silence back in China.

    Happens heaps.

    Wait for the Chinese fentanyl business to take off here like in Mexico servicing America.

  114. Mike of Marion

    Just come in from watching UR-82008 (An124-100) take off from YPAD after delivering a P8 simulator for Ronnie RAAF at Edinburgh.

    Big bird. Huge crowd watching its movement across YPAD prior to takeoff.

  115. testpattern

    Files show birth of Papua independence struggle

    ‘Kaisiepo, whose son would also become a prominent advocate for Papuan independence, asked if the U.S. “could provide money and arms secretly to assist him and his movement.” He was rebuffed, as was another Papuan leader, Nicolaas Jouwe, who made a similar request to the U.S. in September 1965 and also to Australia.’

    http://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-pmn/files-show-birth-of-papua-independence-struggle

  116. John Constantine

    China is building the new silk road into the steppes of the central Asian stans to access the agricultural and mineral wealth of a vast region.

    Once China can draw on the endless steppes for supply, Australia will have to take the price cuts.

  117. Baldrick

    Rae
    #2583130, posted on December 12, 2017 at 9:06 pm
    Spag bog is disgusting.

    Says the cockhead who buys Spaghetti Bolognese in boxes from the Aldi freezer section.

  118. W Hogg

    This week we’ve had
    – retraction of Sessions FakeNews and clearance on Russia
    – retraction of DJT Jr email FakeNews from Clinton News Network
    – retraction of ABC Russia FakeNews so egregious that the newsreader was suspended
    – admission the yearbook was forged
    – hundreds of corrupt links revealed between Frimtons and FBI investigators
    – Flynn plead to a trivial offence not treason

    I assume mOron retreated to the wymminz’ with his necktie and topped himself?

  119. W Hogg

    Anyone catch the footage of the guy who said the Kenyan dealt drugs and got a couple of blowjobs off him?

  120. zyconoclast

    Alexander is another celebrity candidate, he’s been trumped.

    Without much celebrity or boobs*.

    In singles he only won a few tournaments and nothing noteworthy.
    The last win was in 1983.

    In parliament he has been a nonentity.

    He started the 2011 Bennelong Table Tennis Cup. That will be a big vote winner.

    *Is it too late to get a boob job and go the full trans thing?
    Yes, it is too late. Damn.

  121. Snoopy

    An independent West Papua was a lost opportunity for Australia.We knocked back a busted-arse Melanesian state that would have made PNG look like Switzerland in comparison.

  122. egg_

    IT I think Graegooglery would go for the Aldi Bol-in-a-bag.

    Enviro friendly recycled colostomy bags?

  123. Farmer Gez

    Chinese fiddling in the Ag chemical and fert industry is just beginning.
    Buyouts and supply concentration will drive prices ever upward. No other supplier can rely on their government to create a false alarm to spook the market like the Chinese.
    Bogus claims of pollution control measures are purely a ruse to leverage prices and our dribbling imbeciles in government cluelessly applaud them.
    We are honestly too dumb to survive.

  124. testpattern

    The Russians are coming, not far away now. And Tass doesn’t even say that Biak is in Papua.

    ‘Two Tu-95MS strategic bombers and two Il-76MD aircraft flew from an airfield in the Amur Region to the Biak airfield in the Republic of Indonesia’

    http://tass.com/defense/979011

  125. DrBeauGan

    I made $708 this afternoon trading etherium. I found a cool app which lets you trade lots of things, forex and btc/ETH.. i figured it can’t be too hard if JC can do it. 😁

    They give you $100,000 of pretend money to play with so you can learn to use the app. So the money I made wasn’t real. That comes after some more experimenting. Still, it’s not bad for a few hours of playing an entertaining game.

  126. Knuckle Dragger

    The Russians and Indos regularly interact, Testes. The Indos (and I know you’ll be horrified at this) are on exercise in the northern half of Australia – with our troops – regularly as well. Probably building fake submarine parts to put on Pilbara beaches.

    Still, I’ve watched Red Dawn too so I’ll spend the night in a tree with my shotgun just in case.

  127. Dr Faustus

    China has an incredibly unequal income distribution; ~200 million people living in decent, Singapore-style ecomonic conditions. Another ~200 million living a more precarious existence in the major cities, and a similar number in regional cities.

    The other 600/700 million live third world lives in the regions; a hard, hopeless grind – where an unpleasant death by starvation and preventable disease is a realistic end-of-life proposition.

    The Chinese know exactly how a popular revolution by people with nothing to lose works. The Chinese Government elites are actually committed – by self-interest, if nothing else – to pushing out a high rate of economic growth at (pretty much) all costs. To offer tangible hope of something better in the future, to secure the present status quo.

    That exactly describes the Chinese interest in Australia. Purely transactional. Australia is a significant source of energy, minerals, food and fibre – plus a market for export goods.

    Australia offers nothing else of particular benefit – other than as an open economy, China can usually invest directly in projects of Chinese interest to maximise the economic return to China.

    And this process is smoothed by buying the local headmen.

  128. JC
    #2583105, posted on December 12, 2017 at 8:38 pm
    The history behind was that no one expected Trump to win the election and so government minsters weren’t able to contact him immediately.

    It was foolish to put all our faith in one candidate’s prospects of winning in a two-horse race.
    Any sensible career diplomat or politician would have had a Plan B prepared, just in case.

  129. zyconoclast
    #2583196, posted on December 12, 2017 at 10:51 pm
    Alexander is another celebrity candidate, he’s been trumped.
    In singles he only won a few tournaments and nothing noteworthy.

    JA may have only won 7 singles tournaments, but his record as a doubles player and Davis Cup player were huge contributions to Australian tennis.

  130. zyconoclast

    Stealth Invasion: Muslim Conquest Through Immigration and the Resettlement Jihad

    Editorial Reviews
    Review
    Leo Hohmann’s brilliantly researched book is well worth your time to read, study, and pass on to like-minded Americans. It isn’t an accident that our communities are experiencing increased crime, acts of terrorism, and a drag on economic growth. It is by design. Hohmann unfolds the entire story for us, layer by tragic layer. I’ve seen the truth of the negative consequences of third-world resettlement in my home state, and I witnessed the shocking inattention to these consequences by many in positions of power in Washington. Read Hohmann’s book to learn how you can play an effective role in protecting your backyard. –Former U.S. Representative Michele Bachmann

    The poison fruit of the Left’s treasonous migrant policy has not yet fully become obvious, but it soon will. They are importing huge numbers of people who do not share American values and have no interest in adopting them. When we see an epidemic of jihad terror attacks, FGM, honor killing, and demands for Sharia accommodation in this country, you will know why if you read Leo Hohmann’s essential book., Stealth Invasion tells the truth that the mainstream media is determined to cover up: that the Muslim migrants are not “refugees,” but hostile invaders. –Pamela Geller, President, American Freedom Defense Initiative, author, Stop the Islamization of America

    The refugee influx is not a humanitarian crisis as it has been portrayed, but an opportunity for the Left to engage in social engineering on a massive scale, while flooding Western Europe and the U.S. with jihadis who easily infiltrate among peaceful refugees, just as the Islamic State has long threatened it would do. We are being lied to by the political and media elites about what is really going on, but here is the truth: in this shocking and sobering book, the peerless investigative journalist Leo Hohmann lays out the facts with devastating clarity, documenting a betrayal so immense as to be unbelievable, were the information in this book not so ineluctably compelling. Stealth Invasion ought to be required reading for any politician who still cares about defending America and Judeo-Christian civilization; because of what is laid out in this book, it is rapidly becoming too late. –Robert Spencer, author of the New York Times Bestsellers The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (and the Crusades) and The Truth About Muhammad
    About the Author
    Leo Hohmann is a veteran journalist and news editor for online news giant WND, with a particular focus on immigration and Islam. Prior to joining WND, he worked more than two decades as a newspaper reporter and editor in suburban Atlanta and in Charlotte and Raleigh, North Carolina.

  131. DrBeauGan

    I’ve just made another $400+.

    Golly, this is easy.

  132. zyconoclast

    Trump may get tax cut bill with more generous credits for illegal immigrants

    President Trump has been willing to accept almost anything to close the deal on his giant tax cut bill before Christmas, including staying mum about a measure that would allow illegal immigrants to pocket the more generous child tax credit included in the package.

    Illegal immigrants have been collecting the payoff from the “refundable” tax credit for years because of an IRS interpretation of how the rule was drafted. The Republican-controlled Congress this fall had a chance to correct that in the tax code overhaul that in the Senate version doubled the child tax credit to $2,000 and expanded eligibility.

    The House bill increased the child tax credit to $1,600 and upped the income cutoff to receive it.

    Both bills neglect to require that the worker have a Social Security number to claim the credit but require only that the qualifying child have a Social Security number.

    Under those conditions, illegal immigrant workers with children who benefit from birthright citizenship — a relatively common phenomenon among America’s estimated 12.5 million illegal immigrants — could cash in

  133. zyconoclast

    More fake nationalist politicians.

    Anti-migrant leader pushes to win national power in Italy

    “The Salvini government will have the (nation’s) doors wide open for women and children who are fleeing war, but not for those bringing war to our home,” Salvini told the rally. For the latter, “we need one-way tickets to send them back.”

  134. Bron

    Do let us know when your are trading with your own money, DrBeauGan.

  135. DrBeauGan

    Actually I lost some on bitcoin but I hedged with ethers and am over two and a half thousand bucks ahead in the last few hours. Golly, I could get addicted to this.

  136. DrBeauGan

    Bron
    #2583220, posted on December 12, 2017 at 11:52 pm
    Do let us know when your are trading with your own money, DrBeauGan.

    Oh, I will. Give me a few days to find out what goes wrong.

  137. Token

    And this process is smoothed by buying the local headmen.

    If anyone is close on Saturday to Bennilong, please report in on the nationality of the ‘unpaid’ volunteers.

    The Zimmerman left have found a replacement for the Lib Party members. The type who never ask for the right to vote in electorates to preselect candidates.

  138. Token

    Hi all, thanks to Cali & Egg, and y’all. End of year means I have a bit of time to pop by. Hope all are well.

  139. Token

    JA may have only won 7 singles tournaments, but his record as a doubles player and Davis Cup player were huge contributions to Australian tennis.

    What about his service to the community as an Australian Gladiator umpire. A national treasure, or as the crypt hag Pelosi would say – an icon.

  140. Token

    Hi JC. Good to see a number of the regulars keeping the Cat lively.

    I cursed I could not be here where NZ elected horse face as PM. I’m curious to see if Pony Girl gives her a bit of training with a bit & bridle next time they get together.

  141. Oh come on

    China has an incredibly unequal income distribution; ~200 million people living in decent, Singapore-style ecomonic conditions. Another ~200 million living a more precarious existence in the major cities, and a similar number in regional cities.

    The other 600/700 million live third world lives in the regions; a hard, hopeless grind – where an unpleasant death by starvation and preventable disease is a realistic end-of-life proposition.

    The Chinese know exactly how a popular revolution by people with nothing to lose works. The Chinese Government elites are actually committed – by self-interest, if nothing else – to pushing out a high rate of economic growth at (pretty much) all costs. To offer tangible hope of something better in the future, to secure the present status quo.

    Yes. I have said this for some time. And that the Chinese government is running up genuinely insane levels of debt to keep China Inc motoring along, forcing the state-owned banks to loan to various corporations (some state owned, others state favoured). Several here said aha! So they’re borrowing from their own people, ergo no problem if they default.

    Er, no. It’s a big problem. A huge problem. The Chinese savings rate last time I checked – which was several years ago, admittedly – was in the high teens. But it’s not controversial to say that the Chinese are great savers. It’s money they’re putting aside for their retirement, in the absence of any credible state-based alternative. They can put it into an overheated property market or an overheated stock market. Or they can put it into a ‘safe’ bank account. Maybe all three, whatever. Point is that huge volumes of capital have been collecting in bank accounts, but the banks have lent this out to borrowers at the demand of the government, and these borrowers will never repay their loans. This is a colossal, colossal heist.

    I suspect the Chinese state expects perpetual economic growth will ensure that the bill never comes due and the banks will always have the liquidity to roll over the debt. But one hiccup could bring the house of cards down. And to say that it’s no problem, the Chinese people will swallow the Chinese state swindling them out of their life savings – no, they won’t. They really won’t. They will go fucking mental. The unspoken, unwritten deal was that the people go with the flow, that the state ultimately knows best and will deliver prosperity if the people go about their business and don’t ask questions. They are pretty much all fully signed up to this as it’s delivered for four decades or so. But one hiccup, and the system could collapse. And when it does – and think about this from the perspective of the man in the street who has just lost their life savings – there is no formal mechanism for ejecting from power the people who screwed everything up. Screwed everyone’s life up, everyone’s future up.

    In this situation, the Chinese state will prevail over the Chinese people, or it will not. Regardless, things will end messily. Very messily.

  142. JC

    With the assistance of stats from the Federal Reserve, this book named , Wealth In America, analyzes just that and it comes up with startling findings.

    Most rich people in the US are self made. Inherited wealth account for little of their wealth. In other words Picketty’s book was a total crock of shit.

    Interestingly inherited wealth actually helps the less wealth off like African Americans.

    Even more surprising, inherited wealth is much more important in the lives of those who have relatively little wealth than it is in the lives of the super rich. For the top 1% of wealth holders from 1989 to 2013, inherited wealth accounted for only 17% of their assets. (The 1%, in this analysis, is an overwhelmingly self-made group.) By contrast, for those with assets of just $25,000-$50,000, inherited wealth accounted for 52% of their worth.

    and

    As a bizarre consequence of this pattern, African-Americans, who have low levels of net worth on average, are the social group for which inherited wealth represents the largest share of their net worth. Another odd implication is that inheritances tend to make overall wealth-holding more equal. Were inherited wealth to be completely abolished, the wealth of the poor would decline more than that of the rich. Inherited wealth is the great equalizer. Who knew?

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/review-how-the-richest-got-that-way-1513036026

  143. Oh come on

    I read somewhere that if the African-American population were a country, it would have the 18th largest GDP in the world.

  144. Oh come on

    In other words Picketty’s book was a total crock of shit.

    Yet he’ll be dining off of that garbage for decades to come. I have no doubt that that publication is only bested by something authored by Marx as an economics text.

    The French have done colossal, colossal damage to Anglo-Saxon academia. Foucault, Derrida et al have destroyed the humanities. The likes of Picketty are ripping apart economics, despite the evident failure of their ideologies. I think a series of nuclear accidents is required at the French power stations to wipe that noxious country off the map.

  145. None

    “Work in economics in particular is so much divorced from reality that it has come to be known as office-based theorising and junk science, producing results that are only good for publication.”

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/higher-education/published-academic-research-worth-little-in-present-or-perish-culture/news-story/d037635f6a0e5dc0b69022f163a616eb

    Publication that then never gets cited.

  146. BorisG

    And when it does – and think about this from the perspective of the man in the street who has just lost their life savings

    The key question then is: how many people will lose their life savings simultaneously. Or, in other words, how abrupt this event will be. If it is gradual, it may be ok.

  147. BorisG

    I disagree. The west picked the wrong side. The picked the anti-Assad team and lost.

    Obama and Trump were not prepared to put boots on the ground. You can’t win against Russian contingent when your own contingent consists of exactly zero soldiers.

  148. Slayer of Memes

    W Hogg
    #2583193, posted on December 12, 2017 at 10:48 pm
    This week we’ve had
    – retraction of Sessions FakeNews and clearance on Russia
    – retraction of DJT Jr email FakeNews from Clinton News Network
    – retraction of ABC Russia FakeNews so egregious that the newsreader was suspended
    – admission the yearbook was forged
    – hundreds of corrupt links revealed between Frimtons and FBI investigators
    – Flynn plead to a trivial offence not treason
    I assume mOron retreated to the wymminz’ with his necktie and topped himself?

    Eventually even the Doomlord will come to his senses and perma-ban mOnty for his incessant parroting of failed Leftist narratives…

    ..either that or, in the example as set out in ‘The Hitch-hiker’s Guide to the Galaxy”, mOnty’s major intestine will rise up through his airway and strangle his brain in a desperate bid to save the sanity of all Catallaxians from the dribbling twaddle issuing from the fat dickhead’s mouth.
    (Personally I’m hoping for this outcome..)

  149. Zatara

    There are about 2,000 U.S. troops deployed in Syria

    Over the summer, hundreds of U.S. troops — including Special Operations forces and artillerymen — deployed to Syria as the assault on Raqqa was prepared. Separately, the Pentagon also temporarily deployed Army Rangers to northern Syria over the summer, an attempt to keep the peace as Syrian Kurdish fighters liberated cities in areas where other armed groups were loyal to nearby Turkey.

    Significantly more than zero.

  150. Tom

    Herald Sun illustrator Mitchell Toy on Shanghai Sam and the glorious revolution.

  151. Knuckle Dragger

    Mitchell Toy (Tom’s pick above):

    Your are my new hero.

    That is all.

  152. nemkat

    Cynical politics by the Palaszczuk Government.
    They’ve saved Seats in the scrub by leading the yokels up the garden path over Adani, and won the Election in Brisbane by refusing the loan, which effectively meant that the project wouldn’t proceed.
    Which everyone bar the greedy yokels would have realized when the loan was refused..

  153. johanna

    Pony Girl seems hellbent on destroying the Queensland economy.

    The guy behind Adani seems to be a stubborn bugger, though. Even though he is Indian, I hereby declare him a dual citizen, an honorary Dutchman. 🙂

    I have a pal who is a bigwig in Queensland Labor, old style. He is in favour of jobs and development. I rang him before the election and asked him how the campaign was going. He said that he didn’t know, wasn’t involved. That was code for his loathing of the current regime, as he knows my politics.

    He is not alone, either. As well as ALP heavies like him, there are many unionists who still regard jobs and prosperity for their members as top priorities. They are utterly dismayed by this policy of sucking up to the Greens, across a whole range of issues.

    There is plenty of turmoil under the surface in the Queensland ALP.

  154. areff

    Eventually even the Doomlord will come to his senses and perma-ban mOnty for his incessant parroting of failed Leftist narratives…

    Leave poor Monty alone. Like the shambling drunks temperance preachers of old trotted out to display in the flesh the ravages of dipsomania, he’s a cautionary lesson in the dangers of habitual masturbation.

  155. DrBeauGan

    It’s been an interesting night, and it’s not over yet. I’ve been following my profit and loss figures for my etherium/bitcoin trades. At one o’clock I was ahead by $10,000 on the day. At two o’clock I was $6,000 ahead. It went down to $3,000 by three o’clock. Now it’s just gone four o’clock and it’s back up to $5,500.

    Volatile is the word. I just left everything floating to see what happened.

    Tomorrow I have a term deposit coming up. I’m planning to drop it all into the current account or maybe a new one exclusively for trading and try it all with real money.

    Life is never dull.

  156. areff

    Alternate uses for poultry. The Age reports:

    A woman allegedly enslaved by a Melbourne couple was at times beaten with a frozen chicken, had boiling water thrown on her legs and hot tea splashed in her face, a court has been told.

  157. John Constantine

    Just restating something already gone over on the cat.

    Recent deindustrialisation of the Australian economy, according to signed transnational conventions drafted by bodies controlled by Mugabe African voting blocks, (Chinese provide his stem cells) outright Chinese financed voting blocks and socialists has had one undeniable thing.

    Australia can no longer grow food crops without the Chinese monopoly cartels keeping their just in time supply chain of crop inputs open.

    Fertiliser to feed crops, weedicides to stop crops being out competed and insecticide to stop crops being eaten and fungicides to stop them dying.

    All chicom monopoly controlled.

    JC doesn’t scroll up or read morning stuff, so he would have missed the bit where the chicoms experimented with the idea of choking off chemical supply recently, under the guise of green regulations.

    Terrifying to see your whole crop totally vulnerable to the whims of chicom dictatorship.

    Graziers are the only free men.

    Comrades.

  158. entropy

    He is not alone, either. As well as ALP heavies like him, there are many unionists who still regard jobs and prosperity for their members as top priorities. They are utterly dismayed by this policy of sucking up to the Greens, across a whole range of issues.

    The left faction is dominant in the parliamentary wing in Qld.

  159. Leigh Lowe

    – Flynn plead to a trivial offence not treason
    I assume mOron retreated to the wymminz’ with his necktie and topped himself?

    No tie could ever take that strsin.

  160. Farmer Gez

    Graziers are the only free men.

    There’s are few more feet on the chain maybe.
    Fert is still needed along with drenches, lice and fly treatments.
    What about all the traceability requirements? Vendor decs and electronic tags.
    Chained to the wheel.

  161. struth

    DrBeauGan

    #2583306, posted on December 13, 2017 at 7:12 am

    Are you allowed to divulge the name of the “cool app”

  162. johanna

    Here’s one for the wage slaves dragging themselves out of bed because the clock says so.

    My sympathies. As someone whose body clock is wildly out of synch with the imposed version, I really do feel your pain.

  163. zyconoclast

    Alternate uses for poultry. The Age reports:

    A woman allegedly enslaved by a Melbourne couple was at times beaten with a frozen chicken, had boiling water thrown on her legs and hot tea splashed in her face, a court has been told.

    This is a poor variation of the Cat who would use a frozen duck for threats and violence.

    Who was that again?

  164. Leigh Lowe

    Knuckle Dragger

    #2583283, posted on December 13, 2017 at 4:46 am

    Mitchell Toy (Tom’s pick above):

    Your are my new hero.

    That is all.

    Bill Leak did a similar “glorious people’s revolution” poster of Red Underpants Conroy and Gillard, I think over the threats to regulate media.
    Can’t find it but.

  165. “I’m SUPERBLACK! My Aboriginal blackness has powers beyond other skin colours.
    I’m SUPERBLACK! My Aboriginal Blackness removes other citizenships with a single unsubstantiated claim. I’m…”

    No mate, you’re just a blackfella on the public teat ignoring black kids being raped in Roebourne.

  166. Bruce of Newcastle

    The ex head of Socialist International, who now happens to be UN Sec General, pronounces dooooom.

    With fossil fuel subsidies, humanity investing in ‘own doom’: UN chief

    Paris (AFP) – By subsidising fossil fuels, humanity was “investing in its own doom”, UN chief Antonio Guterres said Tuesday at a Paris summit seeking to unlock funds for the global shift towards greener energy.

    “Fossil fuels remain heavily subsidised -– meaning we are investing in our own doom,” he told delegates at the finance-themed climate gathering called by French President Emmanuel Macron.

    This is all rather gloomy, but fear not! Lest you think these people have a single clue between them just go look at this article also today:

    Study: finds a solar amplification mechanism by which solar activity & cosmic rays control climate

    The HockeySchtick writes: A paper published today in the Journal of Atmospheric and Solar-Terrestrial Physics finds another potential solar amplification mechanism mediated by galactic cosmic rays [GCRs] (and distinct from Svensmark’s cosmic ray theory of climate).

    The graph is as clear a proof that Guterres is full of Marxist BS as you can get. Other solar datasets which likewise confirm this relationship include previous solar cycle length and total solar irradiance.

    It’s the Sun stupid UN people.

  167. cohenite

    zyconoclast

    #2583213, posted on December 12, 2017 at 11:37 pm

    Stealth Invasion: Muslim Conquest Through Immigration and the Resettlement Jihad

    Editorial Reviews
    Review
    Leo Hohmann’s brilliantly researched book is well worth your time to read, study, and pass on to like-minded Americans. It isn’t an accident that our communities are experiencing increased crime, acts of terrorism, and a drag on economic growth. It is by design. Hohmann unfolds the entire story for us, layer by tragic layer. I’ve seen the truth of the negative consequences of third-world resettlement in my home state, and I witnessed the shocking inattention to these consequences by many in positions of power in Washington. Read Hohmann’s book to learn how you can play an effective role in protecting your backyard. –Former U.S. Representative Michele Bachmann

    The poison fruit of the Left’s treasonous migrant policy has not yet fully become obvious, but it soon will. They are importing huge numbers of people who do not share American values and have no interest in adopting them. When we see an epidemic of jihad terror attacks, FGM, honor killing, and demands for Sharia accommodation in this country, you will know why if you read Leo Hohmann’s essential book., Stealth Invasion tells the truth that the mainstream media is determined to cover up: that the Muslim migrants are not “refugees,” but hostile invaders. –Pamela Geller, President, American Freedom Defense Initiative, author, Stop the Islamization of America

    This is it in a nutshell. Others have noticed. Peter Hammond has detailed the same process:

    Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges. When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well.

    The following analysis of Islamic influence and Muslim demographics around the world is adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book, “Slavery, Terrorism & Islam: Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat”.

    At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.

    From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply.

    All this is wrapped up in the left-wing concept of the Moderate Muslim, a lie of grotesque proportions which curtails a proper response to islam and allows policy favouring islam to occur.

  168. Gilas

    Ah… the Cat.. always entertaining, especially at night.

    From the sublime to the less salubrious in a few dozen posts.
    Thank-yous to all concerned!

  169. johanna

    Recommend that you pop this on while you are wandering about doing other things. It’s Mark Steyn’s latest Q&A .

  170. Bruce of Newcastle

    Tomorrow I have a term deposit coming up. I’m planning to drop it all into the current account or maybe a new one exclusively for trading and try it all with real money.

    Dr Beau – This one is for you…

    “It’s In The Mania Phase”: Securities Regulator Warns That “Mortgages Are Being Taken Out To Buy Bitcoin”

    And also this one. Both are from today.

    It’s Official: Bitcoin Surpasses “Tulip Mania”, Is Now The Biggest Bubble In World History

    Poseidon was the Greek god of the sea and the Australian god of financial bubbles.
    Just sayin’.

  171. DrBeauGan

    struth
    #2583313, posted on December 13, 2017 at 7:27 am
    DrBeauGan

    #2583306, posted on December 13, 2017 at 7:12 am

    Are you allowed to divulge the name of the “cool app”

    It’s called plus 500, Struth. I have the android version, off the playstore, but I expect there are apple versions.

    It’s a lot of fun to play with. I had to look up a lot of jargon and make guesses. Also tap on random symbols to see what happens. There is a contact us system which actually works, I asked it a question and a real human being gave a helpful answer within an hour or so.

    Best of luck.

  172. stackja

    Bitcoin craze a mix of the Tulip Mania bubble and 21st century reality
    Terry McCrann, Sunday Herald Sun
    December 11, 2017 11:19am
    Subscriber only
    BITCOIN. What the hell is it? What does its dizzying rise in “value” — creating not just millionaires but billionaires out of virtual reality — mean? Is it building us up for another catastrophic global collapse?

    These and many other questions are posed by the spectacular rise in the price of a Bitcoin, which went absolutely ballistic in the past few days.

    We really haven’t seen anything quite like this since the Tulip Mania of the 17th century or the South Sea Bubble of the 18th — just maybe the dotcom boom of the dying days of the 20th.

    Bitcoin and the Blockchain technology on which it is based is real and very useful — the ASX is moving to Blockchain as its tomorrow platform. At the same time there’s the classic bubble of demand just for demand’s sake far exceeding supply.

    But ultimately it’s not like a Da Vinci painting. An endless supply of alternative cryptocurrencies can be created. The one thing that is precisely their greatest appeal — that they are unregulated and operate outside “the system” — is also their greatest vulnerability.

    Could they trigger the next global financial crash? Right now, and for the short-term future — on their own, a crucial qualification — no.

    Bitcoin adds up to $US240 billion. I’ve no idea what all the Bitcoin clones would add, but probably to still less than $US1 trillion.

    In contrast all the shares in the world add to about $US90 trillion. Then there’s another $US200 trillion of corporate and government bonds. The next crash is somewhere in there and Bitcoin won’t trigger it.

    [email protected]

  173. stackja

    Sam Dastyari was a ‘protégé who became an extraordinary politician’
    SHARRI MARKSON, COMMENT, The Daily Telegraph
    December 13, 2017 12:00am
    Subscriber only
    SAM Dastyari, the protégé of Graham Richardson who married into the family of experienced political guru Peter Barron, was an extraordinary politician.

    Before we delve into the unforgiveable Chinese “cash for comment” scandal that saw him stand aside, let’s recognise that Dastyari was a talented Senator and a gifted communicator who was more effective than the majority of his lazy colleagues.

    The former NSW General Secretary’s fatal error was following the lead of senior Labor figure Bob Carr.

    There were concerns about Carr’s pro-China attitude from virtually the moment he was appointed Australia’s Foreign Minister.

    10 days after Carr was sworn into the role in 2012, Kurt Campbell, then US assistant secretary of state, raised concerns about his closeness to China over breakfast in Sydney’s Park Hyatt hotel.
    After his time as foreign minister, where he had access to classified documents, Carr then went to work for a Chinese think-tank.

    Yes, Dastyari exercised appalling judgement in allowing a powerful Chinese donor – accused of being a spy – to bankroll personal debts, while he pushed their agenda in Parliament.

    But in many ways, Dastyari is a sacrificial lamb of the Labor Party whose senior figures were all too willing to continue raking in Chinese donations even after receiving serious security warnings from ASIO.

  174. Dr Faustus

    Pony Girl seems hellbent on destroying the Queensland economy.

    Think Jackie Trad and the Left faction instead – Pony Girl is just thrashing around.
    Self-interest points the finger: the CFMEU are incensed at Trad’s dominance on the Adani issue and preferment as Treasurer (and at the Palacechook parliamentary Girllz Club). They campaigned against her during the election.

  175. DrBeauGan

    BoN, I am not going to take out a mortgage or max out the credit card. First I shall put in a few kilobux and play around to make sure that if I do make a profit I can get it back into aud. If I lose the lot, it will be educational but not serious. Anyway, it’s only money. One shouldn’t take it too seriously. I’m not planning on getting rich. I’m intending to remain reasonably comfortable. As long as I can keep the cigars coming and the odd exploration I don’t need much.

  176. Baldrick

    Riccardo Bosi
    #2583311, posted on December 13, 2017 at 7:24 am
    2017 Imbecile of the Year?

    Unfair to have to pick just one individual with so many contenders in the Stupid.Fucking.Liberal.Party .

  177. Snoopy

    Things just keep getting worse for Mueller.

    It’s now emerging that FBI senior counterintelligence investigator Peter Strzok was sending more than just semen and anti-Trump text messages FBI counsel Linda Page’s way.

    Seems Page’s role included approving Strzok’s applications to the FISA court seeking surveillance warrants against the Trump campaign!

  178. Bruce of Newcastle

    Anthem protests arrive in Israel.

    Israeli-Arab MK: I’d Rather Die Than Sing Israeli Anthem

    “I am a Palestinian with an Israeli identity card, but I have no Israeli identity,” Zahalka said.

    When asked if he sings “Hatikva,” he said, “I would rather die than sing the Israeli national anthem,” and he complained about “Israel continuing its occupation.”

    Asked about the Israeli flag, Zahalka said, “Any flag for me is a rag. It’s a piece of cloth. It’s a lot worse than a rag.”

    The Syrian border is that way son →

  179. johanna

    entropy
    #2583309, posted on December 13, 2017 at 7:23 am

    He is not alone, either. As well as ALP heavies like him, there are many unionists who still regard jobs and prosperity for their members as top priorities. They are utterly dismayed by this policy of sucking up to the Greens, across a whole range of issues.

    The left faction is dominant in the parliamentary wing in Qld.

    Duh.

    My point is that the Parliamentary wing is not the party, as Maocolm will find out at the next election. Fundraisers, people to hand out HTVs and so on will be thin on the ground.

    It occurs to me that the Chinese have moved into the vacuum created by the disengagement of the political class from the people in the West. What a golden opportunity!

  180. Dr Faustus

    Yes, Dastyari exercised appalling judgement in allowing a powerful Chinese donor – accused of being a spy – to bankroll personal debts, while he pushed their agenda in Parliament.

    At least Richo is able to acknowledge that Dastyari actually exercised judgement – albeit appalling. Better and more honest than Burke/Albanese’s pitiful defence yesterday that he showed a “lack of judgement” – like a naughty teenager.

    All ironic, in the sense that were Dastyari a Chinese parliamentarian he would have had his last early morning bowl of rice a long time ago.

  181. Boambee John

    Knuckle Dragger at 2316

    Still, I’ve watched Red Dawn too so I’ll spend the night in a tree with my shotgun just in case.

    Show some patriotism, watch Tomorrow When the War Began too.

  182. Snoopy

    It’s difficult to feel any sympathy for the CFMEU getting its clock wiped in Queensland. The CFMEU has been walking both sides of the street on coal.

  183. Tel

    But in many ways, Dastyari is a sacrificial lamb of the Labor Party whose senior figures were all too willing to continue raking in Chinese donations even after receiving serious security warnings from ASIO.

    Sam was just the tip of the iceberg, he was a little too blatant and smug about it and got caught out. Not quite as smart as he thinks he is.

    Both of the major parties have enjoyed Chinese foreign donation money, which is why they are all treading very softly, which is why boosting the minor parties is the only rational voting strategy at this stage.

    All ironic, in the sense that were Dastyari a Chinese parliamentarian he would have had his last early morning bowl of rice a long time ago.

    Absolutely. I doubt the Iranians would put up with that kind of thing either.

  184. johanna

    Report from bunker in the face of expected 34C max. today.

    Enemy still not visible (19.4C) but hatches being battened down. Water (for drinking of) in place. Emergency sunscreen supplies for trip to letterbox placed by front door. Friends and relatives asked to call the police if I don’t respond immediately to their annoying texts and calls. I don’t have any pets, but if I did, they would be in lockdown.

    OK, global warmening, BRING IT ON!

  185. Dr Faustus

    It’s difficult to feel any sympathy for the CFMEU getting its clock wiped in Queensland. The CFMEU has been walking both sides of the street on coal.

    Indeed.
    Michael Ravbar’s pain, and its consequences for the ALP, is a joy to all right thinking people.

  186. johanna

    P.S. – I am thinking that euthanasing the kangaroos over the road at the Golf Course might be the kindest and wisest thing, what with how the planet is going and all that. What do others think?

  187. Roger

    Michael Ravbar’s pain, and its consequences for the ALP, is a joy to all right thinking people.

    A union needs employed workers to exist & pay for those Landcruisers the Commissars favour.

  188. Boambee John

    johanna at 0643

    “There is plenty of turmoil under the surface in the Queensland ALP.”

    My maternal grandparents (tgeatre cleaner and former seamstress) were loyal members of the Queensland ALP. They would neither recognise nor support the present mob of pseudo intellectual wankers.

  189. struth

    DrBeauGan


    Thank you .

  190. Pickles

    Air conditioned houses, cars and jobs for those less than ten miles from a Chinese restaraunt or behind the goat’s cheese curtains. Lives at a constant 22 degrees. All very susceptible to heatwaves over 30. Over the old 100 they have conniptions and march for more taxes to keep things cool. Bring on the next stormageddon.

  191. Robber Baron

    Dastyari resigned now over his Chinese cash for loyalty scandal rather than in the future over his dual citizenship. It was just more strategic now as he had more leverage with Bennelong this weekend. Methinks Sam still has Shorten’s measure and balls in his tight grip.

  192. areff

    I am thinking that euthanasing the kangaroos over the road at the Golf Course

    Be careful. You could be charged with threatening climate scientists

  193. min

    Johanna, Libs have that problem already . They had to hire students for North Sydney election, Frydenberg was short of helpers last election and he is popular. Many more conservatives have left the party since the last election. I receive requests for donation regularly and return it saying I will not donate to the Turnbull Coalition Team or Not while Turnbull is PM. However Malcolm has them by the s and cs as he donated/lent them the 100+ mill for the Previous election. Where will they get the funds now they have banned foreign donors, developers ? Stupid Turnbull who thinks the sun shines out of his backside could possibly offer himself as a source of renewable energy.

  194. jupes

    The former NSW General Secretary’s fatal error was following the lead of senior Labor figure Bob Carr.

    Indeed.

    Carr is a traitor. He is an agent of influence for China and Islam.

  195. Mike of Marion

    Just come in overnight!
    Young lady whose singing career I have been following keenly:

  196. Diogenes

    y maternal grandparents (tgeatre cleaner and former seamstress) were loyal members of the Queensland ALP

    More recently my in laws were office bearers in a country branch. Gave it away, totally disillusioned when Boob Carr was made Premier, and moved interstate due to bad blood between them & Carr created during a preselection stoush.

  197. struth

    Where will they get the funds now they have banned foreign donors, developers ?

    Through the middle man.

  198. notafan

    Essential first date questions.

    Minor regional adjustments required
    for those in the dating game

  199. C.L.

    ACT Court basically laughs off violent gang rape – presumably because perp is a brown Muslim:

    Refugee, 24, who repeatedly raped two sex workers at knifepoint with a friend and his brother before trying to flee to Somalia is jailed for just three years.

    Abuuh, his 31-year-old friend Sith Khalid Alabassi, and his brother, 22-year-old Mohammed Alabassi, organised to meet the two sex workers at an apartment complex in Reid.

    The men pulled knives on the women once they were inside the room, before repeatedly raping them.

  200. Geriatric Mayfly

    Not just a dab of after-shave, some dress sense and a bunch of flowers anymore. Over at Blair’s a run down of what the Intersectional Feminist wants in a man before he so much as makes a move. Boilerplate and beautiful in its ugliness, and also from my perspective, hilarious. Some Enchanted Evening indeed.

  201. Rabz

    Krispy Kreme Light Ice, swilled straight from the can and enjoyed with some Aldi ersatz Jatz, Coon cheese and Grey Nurse fillets.

    Yum, yum, yum.

  202. Infidel Tiger

    This is all women need to know to keep a man happy:

    https://youtu.be/goGzWR5r9ko

  203. stackja

    C.L.
    #2583365, posted on December 13, 2017 at 8:53 am

    Dutton to seek deportation?

  204. DrBeauGan
    #2583330, posted on December 13, 2017 at 8:06 am
    First I shall put in a few kilobux and play around to make sure that if I do make a profit I can get it back into aud. If I lose the lot, it will be educational but not serious.

    Sensible.
    There are other companies in this market who have lured punters in with a winning demo account and then made it very difficult for real $ to be withdrawn when actual trades are winners.

  205. notafan

    Will your risk taking abilities change with real money?

    I know I hated playing poker for monopoly money.

  206. Empire GTHO Phase III

    Wussiagate isn’t collapsing, it’s heating up. Just not as expected.

    A month after Hillary Clinton hired Fusion GPS (April 2016) to sub-contract retired British MI6 agent Christopher Steele to write the opposition research report “the Trump Russia Dossier”, Fusion GPS employee Nellie Ohr applied for a HAM radio license (May 23rd 2016); a communication tool that would allow Nellie Ohr and Christopher Steele the ability to communicate outside the normal risk of communication intercepts.

    https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/12/12/wife-of-doj-deputy-was-fusion-gps-employee-cia-research-aid-and-applied-for-ham-radio-license-month-after-contracting-mi6-agent-christopher-steele/#more-143303

  207. Hey, it’s International Conservatives Voting For Rock Spiders Day!

  208. Sorry munty you already have all the votes you are ever going to get.

  209. Chris

    Hey, it’s International Conservatives Voting For Rock Spiders Day!

    Oh hai, monts.

  210. Caveman

    If only Sam Choy Bow used his powers for good not evil, he could seriously be making a motza selling infant forumla ( sounds so spyish) to the China.

  211. It would be nice if Roy Moore didn’t win, but it’s Alabama, so he probably will. It’s a pity USSR isn’t here, I would have loved to troll him about it. (Yes I know he is on Twitter.)

  212. Helen

    calli, thanks for that! I will try it out in the coming days.

    Delta, any chance you can give recipe for daughter greek yoghurt base? Probably a bit like damper? ie mix in enough yoghurt to make a dough?

    Traveling today will try to look in tonight, but guests so a bit erratic. 🙂

  213. Mother Lode

    Both of the major parties have enjoyed Chinese foreign donation money

    We have had elected members standing down and being booted because their they were suddenly informed they had dual citizenship – on the basis that dual citizenship too strongly invited divided loyalty.

    But get a wad of cash from a guy closely connected to the Chinese government, then actually stand up in parliament as the Member for Beijing…that merely looks bad.

  214. Geriatric Mayfly

    Already 28C. Have dusted down the Heat Proximity Suit, as this forecast inferno is bound to escalate. I do like to dress up, especially when all decked out in scintillating silver.

  215. Snoopy

    Has Mueller issued a warrant for Trump’s arrest yet?

  216. John Constantine

    Prime Minister redfilth gillard donated hundreds of millions of taxpayers dollars to a notorious transnational crime family, in exchange for a commission to be paid after her political career ended.

    This isn’t a conflict of interest to a foreign power, just because the Clinton’s don’t have their own flag yet?.

  217. johanna

    Dr Faustus
    #2583346, posted on December 13, 2017 at 8:37 am

    It’s difficult to feel any sympathy for the CFMEU getting its clock wiped in Queensland. The CFMEU has been walking both sides of the street on coal.

    Indeed.
    Michael Ravbar’s pain, and its consequences for the ALP, is a joy to all right thinking people.

    That illustrates very well the turmoil in the Queensland ALP. A lot of people don’t agree, and there is a huge struggle going on, which the MSM will never report. I mean, it’s not like Pony Girl’s preferred nailbar, or fashion choices, or favourite restaurants.

  218. Infidel Tiger

    Hey, it’s International Conservatives Voting For Rock Spiders Day!

    An awful choice for Alabamans. A pervert or a man who believes killing partially born babies is fine.

  219. feelthebern

    My average price on Kristine Kenneally is 2.50.
    I reckon she will win Bennelong,
    The LNP roll in with:
    Alexander (as much breakthrough as Monty reaching for some broccoli);
    Mal (even though the Chinese in Bennelong may not love the Chinese government, they don’t like you calling them the Yellow Peril either);
    John Howard (yep, remind the young voters of an old man with the charisma of a monty burns).

    The ALP ground game funded by unions funded by industry super is a wonder to behold.

  220. Jessie

    Speaking of Bubbles and artwork including Potemkin’s Village link by Riccardo Bosi @7.34

    The Australian MP Alan Tudge states ..

    I have been involved with some of these issues for more than 15 years, but there are stories that still send shivers up my spine. Take this one from a frontline child protection worker in Kununurra: “We got a result back … a five-year-old girl with gonorrhoea … everyone gets drunk and passes out without making sure that their kids are in a safe house. …

    We have all been complicit in this carnage because for too long we have stood by and continued each day to hand over the welfare cash that is the fuel for the crisis.

    Just who IS the ‘We’?
    Surely Pat Anderson AO, a 30 year veteran of national Indigenous health and activist for independent services and on The Constitutional aka Treaty Referendum could have chosen to change pathology companies and broaden the age groups for the STD screenings? As could have Noel, Dodson brothers and many another expert running or advising these multi-billion health services?

    Tudge’s gendered reminiscence delivers alcohol once again, used for shock value. Awaiting tobacco, petrol (avgas), marijuana and ice trades. Not purely that the evil behaviour continues in these constructed gulags out of sight and proper media. Abuses of both boys and girls.

    ALP trades lives for Green votes over welfare card

    Hopefully the health ‘evaluation’ will be able to measure with some certainty not only alcohol-related, but other child rape statistics pre-welfare cashless card and post welfare cashless card.

  221. Mother Lode

    Where will they get the funds now they have banned foreign donors, developers ?

    Through the middle man.

    That may well be why the NSW Parliament wants a new building.

    So many people leaving wads of cash in plain brown envelopes behind the cisterns to be collected that it was getting embarrassing when people got mixed up and grabbed the wrong ones. It also led to some unseemly envy when people saw how much others were getting.

    Mind you, there were no problems with running out of loo paper.

  222. johanna

    Mike of Marion, thanks for that clip at 8.49.

    I’m not a Christian, but that was absolutely beautiful.

    And yeah, the girl can sing. Oh boy, can she sing. 🙂

  223. DrBeauGan

    notafan
    #2583376, posted on December 13, 2017 at 9:15 am
    Will your risk taking abilities change with real money?

    I know I hated playing poker for monopoly money.

    Shouldn’t think it very likely, Notafan. It’s all monopoly money for me. I just don’t care about the stuff. I resent people thieving off me or taking advantage of my sweet innocent nature, so if they try to hang onto my profit I shall get cross. But it’s the deceit that gets me mad, not the cash.

  224. Mother Lode

    Hey, it’s International Conservatives Voting For Rock Spiders Day!

    Bill Clinton is running for office again?

  225. André M

    Here is an image more notable for its location than its content.
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/9200502-3×2-220×147.jpg
    If only SRR could see it.

  226. Rebel with cause

    Feelthebern – what % would you put on Kenneally? I was thinking conservative 45%, polling seems to put it more at 50/50. Bet365 paying $3 for ALP win in the by-election at the moment so still worth a punt even if you only fancied ALP a 40% chance.

  227. feelthebern

    Right now Ladbrokes have the ALP at 2.50.
    Pre that Newspoll I saw it at 3 bucks on the weekend.
    I reckon that given how the punters have such short memories, she is better than 50/50.
    Example, Bob Carr is should have rotten fruit and veg thrown at him on a daily basis considering his lack of infrastructure spend during his premiership.
    But he is now held up as some form of statesman, FFS.

    A person is smart.
    People are dumb.
    Ergo, KKK will win Bennelong.

  228. Chris

    Part 3 of Gottliebsen on the investment disincentives in Australia in the

    Paywallian

    Australia’s Big Freeze, part 3: how to boost investment
    How do we get Australian companies to invest? And how do we stop a serious exodus of research and science-based and other industries to the US because of the Trump taxation package.

    Earlier this week I set out why Australians companies were not investing and yesterday detailed the Trump tax package, which goes way beyond the headline corporate tax reduction.

    The easiest thing to do is to prescribe government action (and I will do that later) so I want to start with the action required at the private sector to boost investment.

    To reach my conclusions I have been helped by the remarkable Melbourne Mining Club speech by BHP CEO Andrew Mackenzie and by yarning with Ben Bryant, the Switzerland based director of the IMD Learning Centre. Bryant interviews CEOs around the world on participating in the 21st century industrial revolution.

    And let’s be very clear the world is deep into a 19th century-style industrial revolution and those that don’t participate are likely to fail—that’s why this series is so important.

    READ MORE
    Follow the US, or be left behindROBERT GOTTLIEBSEN
    Dangers of our big freezeROBERT GOTTLIEBSEN
    But first some anecdotes.

    In the US, smart companies are discovering that they can make clothing and a vast array of other products at a cost equal to, or lower than, that of China. (We can do the same thing.)

    In the past American manufacturing and retail companies have based their strategies on the desirability of making goods offshore.

    Australian companies have embraced a similar strategy both in manufacturing and in service sectors like call centres. In call centres computerisation is going to automate much of the work currently undertaken by overseas, so work will come back to Australia.

    Whether it be manufacturing or service activities, global and local companies require a different executive mindset and need to invest capital.

    By talking with global senior executives as well as chief executives Bryant has made an alarming discovery: the best way to describe the management state of many large global companies is “dissonant” — they lack harmony.

    At the top, boards usually appoint chief executives and other senior people on the basis of their past performance and not on their ability to engineer change. Among many lower ranking executives there is a belief in the need to embrace the new technologies and create a totally different company. This creates a vastly different view of a company’s management capability, depending on which executive you talk with.

    Bryant says some 70 per cent of executive knowledge comes via experience. The best executives have often benefited greatly from a major reverse or by overcoming difficult situations. But usually the CEO has obtained the job as a result of success, rather being the beneficiary of reverses.

    So how do we drive corporate change? It won’t come from the institutions because too many are more interested in their management fees and don’t want companies to take risks.

    In the case of BHP, corporate change came as a result of a huge reverse in commodity prices, overpaying for US shale oil and narrow escapes from disastrous decisions.

    That set of reverses enabled Andrew Mackenzie to first slash costs but then invest in new technology so BHP could participate in the 21st century industrial revolution. And that investment will not just be in mine automation but a revamp of administrative costs. The revamped BHP is going to emerge as a company with a different cost structure.

    Rio Tinto had its own set of reverses and is undertaking a similar process.

    Changing the mindset of companies will not be easy but some of our major banks and big miners are showing the way.

    On the investment front our self-managed funds will be important in demanding companies don’t sit on their hands as the institutions want them to do.

    But what will really change Australian companies is what is set to happen in the US, assuming the Trump tax package is approved. This week US bond yields started to rise as the market realised the enormity of what is being proposed. Forget the fake news — the US is set to boom under Trump and our boards, management and governments will need to discover quickly what is happening in the US. And I am optimistic that they will.

    What can our government do? It would be good if we cut corporate taxes to match the US but it is politically impossible at this stage and in any case franking credits means the Australian savers pay most of the bill. So let’s start with capital investment.

    Under the Republican proposal companies will be able to write off capital investment.

    At the Melbourne Mining Club the BHP CEO praised the virtues of Donald Trump’s investment write-off policy.

    If we want Australian companies to begin to invest and to make sure their operations adapt to the new industrial revolution we need to re-resurrect accelerated depreciation and make it much more generous than it previously was.

    I know the ALP is thinking along these lines but they may not take office for another two years. Two years will be too late.

    It is vital that the Coalition government starts the process.

    PwC Australian tax leader Pete Calleja says: “If the proposed changes go through, the winners from Australia’s perspective may include Australian companies who are seeking to ensure both their intellectual property and manufacturing platform are based in the US for both US and foreign market supply.”

    I would add that not only must we accelerate depreciation but we must immediately tax our intellectual property returns at the same rate as the US or we will lose most our science industry, including CSL. That’s a horrible prospect which both major parties need to understand.

    Calleja warns: “The repatriation of US company funds is expected to be very significant. As investment capital becomes increasingly mobile, particularly in the boom industry areas of technology and health, a competitive local corporate tax regime is critical to ensure our economy remains a competitive location for investment.”

    I would add that we might need special tax rates for new ventures and an adaptation of the US excise changes — maybe by introducing a mirror image of the US changes I detailed yesterday.

    President Trump has changed the world. We must remove our head from the sand. It would be nice to stay as we are but we have no choice.

    But what about the people who will be adversely affected? What do we need to do? And how do we pay for tax concessions?

    That’s tomorrow, as I conclude the series.

  229. Mike of Marion

    johanna
    #2583400, posted on December 13, 2017 at 9:56 am

    I am lucky – I have a person who was for 25 years an audio recording engineer with the BBC, He flew to Slovakia for one of her performances recently and has sent audio recordings of her performances.

    He suggests Patricia has an immense future in coloratura soprano and other soprano roles as she progresses.

    She’ll be 19 and a half on 18 December

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