Wednesday Forum: December 13, 2017

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  1. The Moribund Barking Toad

    top 10 wow

  2. Leigh Lowe

    12th Man … person … entitty (sorry entity)

  3. Mother Lode

    Geez – ya turn around for a second…

  4. Michel Lasouris

    Most wealthy and influential men are pursued by women of all types and many take advantage of what’s on “offer”. Not many wealthy and influential men are ambitious to attain the highest positions of authority, however. If they KNEW that, they obviously would take greater care to forestall the inevitable “20/30/40 years ago, he groped me” accusers. If these women didn’t register a complaint when the alleged touching/groping occurred than I’d not bother even listening to them. It is all too easy to fabricate some story to slur a politician, as there really can never be any “proof’ one way or t’other. The President is in my opinion doing a creditable job and should not be harassed by these gold diggers unless they have incontrovertible proof like Monica’s blue dress. Now THERE was an open and shut case that went nowhere! Even the wife ( sick though she is) tried to ride the coat tails of her husband’s notoriety. That was far more suspect than any latter-day accusers of Mr Trump.

  5. Bruce in WA

    Bluddy hell, you lot are fast!

  6. Arnost

    The Alabama Senate results are starting to roll in.

  7. H B Bear

    On behalf of the Peoples Republic of Chine welcome to a new thread.

  8. stackja

    H B Bear
    #2583502, posted on December 13, 2017 at 12:16 pm
    On behalf of the Peoples Republic of Chine welcome to a new thread.

    Sam play again?

  9. Top Ender

    I claim this thread in the memory of all Quislings, who have betrayed their country.

    Their heads should be on pikes out along the front of Parliament House.

  10. So that they know.

    If the PRC wants to deposit $5,000,000 (or more) into one or more of more accounts, I promise* to pass the funds (less a small handling fee) onto the federal MP of their choice.

    *Scouts Honour

  11. Geriatric Mayfly

    From LL on the OT, regarding Trump’s filthy ogling escapade.

    “He looked at beauty pageant contestants inappropriately”.

    My favourite word from the lexicon of fem-speak. Besides inappropriate, there follow closely, unacceptable and problematic as adjectives to be reckoned with.

  12. Rae

    Poor Turnbull. Still whistling the Dastyari dog even though it’s been impounded. He has nothing to offer the Chinese expats in Bennelong except the race card and an ageing former tennis player.

  13. stackja

    Top Ender
    #2583505, posted on December 13, 2017 at 12:19 pm

    Venona Project Australians never faced a court.

  14. Mitchell Porter

    Can someone explain to me what philosophy currently governs Australian immigration policy? Or, if it is not governed by a philosophy, what does govern it?

    E.g. at border.gov.au, I find the statement “The purpose of migration is to build the economy, shape society, support the labour market and reunite family.” It all sounds rather vague.

  15. stackja

    Mitchell Porter
    #2583510, posted on December 13, 2017 at 12:24 pm
    Can someone explain to me what philosophy currently governs Australian immigration policy? Or, if it is not governed by a philosophy, what does govern it?

    E.g. at border.gov.au, I find the statement “The purpose of migration is to build the economy, shape society, support the labour market and reunite family.” It all sounds rather vague.

    Worked before RGR. Dutton now repairing damage.

  16. If the degree of panic in the Liberal camp is any guideline then a bet on the ALP for Bennelong is a worthy investment.

  17. Grumpy Racist Homophobe

    Top nine (just to annoy Carp’s Jugs)

  18. Snoopy

    “He looked at beauty pageant contestants inappropriately”.

    It’s no joking matter GM. The complainant was nekid under her robe.

  19. H B Bear

    “He looked at beauty pageant contestants inappropriately”.

    My favourite word from the lexicon of fem-speak. Besides inappropriate, there follow closely, unacceptable and problematic as adjectives to be reckoned with.

    Unless The Donald was lying on his back in the change rooms I struggle to with “inappropriately” too. Of course it helps if you make the rules up as you go along, even decades later.

  20. stackja

    incoherent rambler
    #2583512, posted on December 13, 2017 at 12:26 pm
    If the degree of panic in the Liberal camp is any guideline then a bet on the ALP for Bennelong is a worthy investment.

    Will MT survive?

  21. Atoms for Peace

    I claim this spot on behalf of the Atom’s nation. Won by conquest .

  22. Atoms for Peace

    Did someone say ” Pray it again Sam ?

  23. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Mining towns target of new booze restrictions
    Grant Taylor, PerthNow
    December 13, 2017 6:00AM

    HARD-DRINKING Pilbara mining towns could be hit with some of the toughest liquor restrictions in the State if a controversial police plan to reduce alcohol-related violence in the region is given the go-ahead.

    The details of the proposed restrictions — obtained through Freedom of Information laws — include a Pilbara-wide ban on takeaway liquor sales on Sundays as well as a 33 per cent reduction in bottle shop trading hours from Monday to Saturday.

    In a written submission to the Director of Liquor Licensing, police have asked for the current 11am opening time for liquor stores to be changed to 2pm, reducing the number of hours in which takeaway liquor could be bought from nine to six.

    Full-strength takeaway beer sales would also be banned, with only mid-strength beer to be available at a limit of one carton per person a day.

    Spirit sales would be capped at one 750ml bottle for each person and wine sales limited to three bottles.

    People wanting to buy a combination of beer, spirits and wine would only be able to buy half of the daily maximum of each.

    Communities that would be affected include the mining centres of Karratha, Port Hedland, Newman, Paraburdoo and Tom Price, as well as the tourist town of Exmouth and smaller communities such as Wickham, Onslow and Marble Bar.

    The police proposal is being reviewed by the Director of Liquor Licensing who is expected to decide early next year whether to proceed with an inquiry to determine whether imposing the restrictions would be in the public interest.

    Police called for the booze crackdown in August in response to shocking revelations about the extent of child sexual abuse in the Pilbara town of Roebourne, 40km from Karratha.

    We can’t restrict sales to one certain section of the population, naah, that would be waycist.

  24. Mitchell Porter

    @stackja: What changed under RGR, and what is Dutton doing differently? Are you referring just to border control?

  25. Myrddin Seren

    at border.gov.au, I find the statement “The purpose of migration is to build the economy, shape society, support the labour market and reunite family.” It all sounds rather vague.

    It is almost all there really:
    “The purpose of migration is to:

    build the economy,

    Mass immigration is pumping up the GDP numbers. The Feds would probably have to explain one if not more technical recessions without the influx. Amazingly, in the dead zone last Christmas, there was actually an article on line at TheirABC pretty much admitting this.

    shape society,

    Rub the noses of Deplorable Old Racist Settler Australia in diversity

    support the labour market

    Those chronic shortages of Pakistani cab drivers and Asian nail salon staff aren’t going to solve themselves !

    .. and reunite family.

    Apparently we have pretty much given an open-ended guarantee that endless parents, aging-and-infirm grandparents, siblings, cousins etc etc are recognised as necessary to support the occasional skilled immigrant and must be a human right or something ?

    It all sounds rather vague.

    I am pretty sure permanent residency in ‘Stralia has a certain quantifiable monetary value, so one assumes the only thing missing is who is getting the incentives and how much the PR visa is worth ?

    Apart from that, seems a pretty clear summary of the situation.

  26. Top Ender

    “The purpose of migration is to build the economy, shape society, support the labour market and reunite family.”

    “The purpose of migration is to stack political branches, shape Centrelink, support embryo terrorism and reunite alliances.”

    There you go.

  27. Tim Neilson

    E.g. at border.gov.au, I find the statement “The purpose of migration is to build the economy, shape society, support the labour market and reunite family.” It all sounds rather vague.

    The results are very concrete, and can be observed all over suburbs near you.

  28. Baldrick

    Rae
    #2583508, posted on December 13, 2017 at 12:22 pm

    Fuck off Stalker Boy. Haven’t you got skins to hang on the clothes line?

  29. Farmer Gez

    So now Don is guilty of ogling a beautiful young woman in a bikini.

    This ones over to you ladies because I’m sure that myself and all male cats have ogled aplenty over the years. My wife could attest to the fact that I’m still at it. Incurable.

  30. Chris

    Can someone explain to me what philosophy currently governs Australian immigration policy?

    Basically, to question it is to be a target. Of the Left, of the media, of the NGOs, of the academic sector, of the entire ‘public-benefit’ and paid bludging classes.

  31. Joe

    So now Don is guilty of ogling a beautiful young woman in a bikini, and not inviting her to be his wife, setting her up forever.

  32. Rae

    If I was a Bennelong voter foremost in how I would vote next Saturday is the likelihood that Labor will form government in the next 13 months, perhaps early in 2018. I would want my local representative to be a Member, probably a Minister, in that government.

  33. Bruce of Newcastle

    Pyjama Boy has come back from the future to save us all! Photo.
    Excellent case study of how too many steroids will turn your brain to tofu.

    Schwarzenegger bikes through Paris, calling out Trump on climate

    Obama now has serious competition for the girlie man cycling medal.

  34. Boambee John

    Mitchell Porter at 1224

    E.g. at border.gov.au, I find the statement “The purpose of migration is to build the economy, shape society, support the labour market and reunite family.” It all sounds rather vague.

    The bolded bits are the key element.

    The aim is to build up an unbeatable constituency of welfare vote herds.

  35. Mother Lode

    My favourite word from the lexicon of fem-speak. Besides inappropriate, there follow closely, unacceptable and problematic as adjectives to be rbeckoned with.

    These words have no meaning that really makes sense in the contexts into which they are put – they serve merely to direct outrage.

  36. Motelier

    If I was a Bennelong voter foremost in how I would vote next Saturday is the likelihood that Labor will form government in the next 13 months, perhaps early in 2018. I would want my local representative to be a Member, probably a Minister, in that government.

    Who cares what you think.

  37. curious george

    We can’t restrict sales to one certain section of the population, naah, that would be waycist.

    Nah don’t think so Zulu.
    A bigger problem to the “carers” of indigenes would be the sudden realisation that those being cared for might acknowledge their European strain in their bloodline.

  38. Roberto

    What’s the preferred spelling in English: Hanukkah or Chanukah?

  39. Top Ender

    The Three Moments that made Milo Famous….

    Not very well filmed, but interesting…

    https://youtu.be/goGzWR5r9ko

  40. Chris

    What’s the preferred spelling in English: Hanukkah or Chanukah?

    C-h-r-i-s-t-m-a-s

  41. curious george

    Dwelling on that choice…

    Noble warrior hunter gatherer lord of all he surveys with little or no grog or just an average “whitey” and all the piss you can swallow…….decisions, decisions.

  42. stackja

    Mitchell Porter
    #2583521, posted on December 13, 2017 at 12:40 pm
    @stackja: What changed under RGR, and what is Dutton doing differently? Are you referring just to border control?

    Border controls keep many out. Others depends. Does Australia need more people? I doubt it.

  43. Chris

    Noble warrior hunter gatherer lord of all he surveys with little or no grog or just an average “whitey” and all the piss you can swallow…….decisions, decisions.

    Nah fuckit we’ll ban grog sales to thirsty engineers, miners and stockmen out of general social concern for their welfare.

  44. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/latest-news/vic-police-cleared-over-andrews-car-crash/news-story/44a1305f1fdaf07d97f7c13ab6807c00

    Victoria’s corruption watchdog has cleared police of any wrongdoing over their investigation of a serious car crash involving the wife of Premier Daniel Andrews.

    Catherine Andrews wasn’t tested for alcohol when her car and a 15-year-old cyclist collided during a family holiday to Blairgowrie on the Mornington Peninsula in 2013.

    The teenager was seriously injured.

    Surprising. Not.

  45. Leigh Lowe

    I read with interest this morning that complainants in the Pell case will be able to give evidence via video.
    The Prosecution is setting up a “secure video” link at an offsite location.
    Now, normally video evidence is only accepted for administrative matters and sentencing hearings and usually when the person is in prison or severely hampered from attending. Evidence in a criminal trial is always given in person and exceptions only made for very young children or those with a legitimate fear of reprisal from the accused.
    Remember the outrage when Pell gave RC evidence via video?
    Could it be that the remote evidence scheme is to facilitate realtime witness coaching and an ability to pull the plug on unwelcome cross-examination questions?

  46. Roger

    Can someone explain to me what philosophy currently governs Australian immigration policy? Or, if it is not governed by a philosophy, what does govern it?

    To drown the old Anglo-Celtic culture in a rising tide of post-modern tribalism.

  47. complainants in the Pell case will be able to give evidence via video.

    A dog ate the prosecution evidence. So I guess the witnesses are at risk of also being eaten.

  48. Gilas

    Mitchell Porter
    #2583510, posted on December 13, 2017 at 12:24 pm

    If it walks like a duck … you’re just trolling/sock-puppeting, right?

  49. Rabz

    Can someone explain to me what philosophy currently governs Australian immigration policy?

    The same “philosophy” that was adopted by UK labour when Blair was PM.

    Here it’s bipartisan treason.

  50. How does one get to be an AEC vote counter?

    With a few by-elections coming up, I want in on the action. $$$$

  51. Mike of Marion

    Leigh Lowe
    #2583545, posted on December 13, 2017 at 1:08 pm

    Didn’t you get the message about “Kangaroo Courts”

    They will tip everything their way so that Pell is guilty.

    Just hope Richter QC doesn’t get hit by a tram.

  52. Mother Lode

    Could it be that the remote evidence scheme is to facilitate realtime witness coaching and an ability to pull the plug on unwelcome cross-examination questions?

    I think it is to neutralise the effect of Pell’s QC who would, amongst his other talents, be adept and reading and putting pressure on witnesses to get them to tell the truth.

    It is easier to lie about someone when not in their presence.

  53. v_maet

    Moore is smashing it in Alabama.
    Going to make me a tidy sum

  54. Mother Lode

    What makes it more absurd is that there are no accusations of molesting kiddies against Pell, just that he was covering it up (while he was actually shining a light on it by way of the Melbourne Response.

  55. H B Bear

    ALPBC radio news had a story on the Slovenian Hag saying it was unfair that people were continuing to hound Shanghai Sam, including his continuing to draw a $4k per week salary until the New Year.

    It is fair to say that “unfair” has now lost any meaning and should be dropped from the English language.

  56. I wonder if Richter’s team is allowed to have an observer QC at the witness location?

  57. littledozer

    Moore is smashing it in Alabama.
    Going to make me a tidy sum

    Not according to Betfair Dems are into 1.10 must be some big Dem districts to come in

  58. Mother Lode

    v_maet, the NY Slimes election website has Jones winning by a majorly margin.

  59. notafan

    Anybody spare a little electricity please?

  60. stackja

    H B Bear
    #2583556, posted on December 13, 2017 at 1:26 pm

    Sam did. Pell didn’t. Fairness?

  61. Rae

    Who cares what you think.

    I do. Cogit ergo sum.

    How’s the new pizza venture coming along?

  62. Mitchell Porter

    @Gilas: I want to understand where we are, how we got here, and where we are going.

    I think one reason we see a rise in progressive collectivism is that it’s a substitute for ethnically and historically based cultures. But so is the idea of the world as borderless marketplace inhabited by individual economic agents.

    Australia may be headed towards a society in which there are, say, European, Chinese, Indian, and Muslim “subcultures”, and in which politics is an ideological struggle between social engineers and liberal democrats, with persistent eruptions of white ethnonationalism. Or am I just describing the present?

  63. Tel

    Anybody spare a little electricity please?

    Here you go.

    ==> o <==

    One free electron from me.

  64. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Moore is smashing it in Alabama.
    Going to make me a tidy sum

    He’s up by about 1%. What are you watching???

  65. jupes

    Can someone explain to me what philosophy currently governs Australian immigration policy?

    Anti-white racism in order to show we are not racist.

  66. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Jones is winning on all projections thanks to low turnout for Moore.

  67. H B Bear

    Graegooglery, your sock mask is slipping. Do try to keep the fvckwittery under control.

    You were doing so well too.

  68. notafan

    Thank you Tel.

    You know how it is in Victoria.

    No power no customers.

    Dan don’t care.

  69. John Constantine

    Their Stalin’s own bhp is looking at getting their American shale debacle off the books.

    One of the world’s most passionately true believing crony green wymynsys companies squandered tens of billions on shale.

    Simply getting the business out from under communist overlords and under real management is seen to multiply it’s value.

  70. Makka

    E.g. at border.gov.au, I find the statement “The purpose of migration is to build the economy, shape society, support the labour market and reunite family.” It all sounds rather vague.

    I’m not sure how they can be more explicit. This is the agenda of ALL major parties for a BIG AUSTRALIA.

  71. Motelier

    Tel

    That should be a -.

  72. Rae

    Moore is smashing it in Alabama.
    Going to make me a tidy sum

    It’s a bit early to be counting your money. Returns are in for only a few counties so far.

  73. Chris

    What’s the preferred spelling in English: Hanukkah or Chanukah?

    There is an article over on PJ Media about it, which expresses no preference on the spelling. I think the families who observe it probably just have different language backgrounds and preferences are theirs to make.

  74. Tel

    Tel

    That should be a -.

    You only give little electrons, you stingy bugger. I give out proper sized electrons. That’s because I have more empathy and you are so selfish!

  75. littledozer

    65% is in Big Dem areas Montgomery and Birmingham are not……65% Dems win betfair at 1.24 after being as low as 1.05

  76. Geriatric Mayfly

    ==> o <==
    One free electron from me.

    That’s a virtual electron. It’s impotent. Now if you were to set up something like bit-coin with electrons in the honeypot, Jay Weatherdill would be your first customer.

  77. Dr Faustus

    I would want my local representative to be a Member, probably a Minister, in that government.

    The average Bennelong voter is a 25% Asian, married, well-educated, gainfully employed, high family income, home-owner.

    If I were part of that demographic I would certainly be mad keen to elect a representative who would immediately be appointed Minister for Gendered Innovation and become unavailable for constituency work due to ministerial commitments and prior appointments to appear on the Project.

    In a government owned by the Trade Unions, committed to incomprehensible social programs and deeply, passionately attached to my wallet…

  78. Rabz

    This deserves to be posted again, given we’ve presumably suffered through the annual white ribbon posturing, that so brazenly refuses to acknowledge the moozley misogyny behind it.

    Steyn’s tour de force on a pointless film about a pointless disgrace that should never have occurred in the first place – and which in a normal functional society, wouldn’t have.

    But we’re talking quebec here – that hideous frozen cesspit infested with disgusting smelly socialist frog blabbering eunuchs, the entirety of whom deserve to roast in hell for all eternity. There are few more loathsome imbeciles blighting this planet. They disgust me at a cellular level. Utterly vile.

  79. Rabz

    Via Steyn: The enablers. What a pair of monstrous ol’ slags.

  80. harrys on the boat

    Jones is winning bigly according to every pollster.

    Cash out if you can.

  81. John Constantine

    One free kick for the Australian economy would be the break up of their bhp.

    Imagine a convoy of smaller agile and innovative companies, a swarm of South 32’s.

    What we have now is an embalmed Stalinist corpse, where consultants gather with ideas like:

    If you give away your shale and bass strait to be run by non commos that don’t hate fossil fuels, they will boom in value.

    Anti trust bhp and their cfmeu mates both.

  82. Rabz

    A guide to pants dropping for the new man:

    I found myself undressing her with my eyes, Ms Steinem being one helluva looker, as many of these feminist babes are. If only I’d been au courant with feminist orthodoxy, I’d just have lunged straight for her bazongas.

  83. Dr Faustus

    One free electron from me.

    I hope you realise that every electron you emit means a South Australian windmill has to work a tiny bit harder to charge Mr Musk’s Electric Battery and stop a baby fairy from dying of sadness.

  84. Empire GTHO Phase III

    Nate Cohn

    @Nate_Cohn
    Folks, our model thinks that the GOP may have a big turnout problem.
    The three, white, GOP counties have fallen far short of our turnout estimates–including two under 75% of our estimates.
    That’s what the big swing in our estimate is about.
    1:20 PM – Dec 13, 2017

    Moore’s campaign was warned about lack of ground game to turn out the vote in this race before the dirt landed.

  85. Mother Lode

    He’s up by about 1%. What are you watching???

    I checked just after my Lunch and he was up by around 20% and, even as I watched, was down by 8%.

    I think the Slimes forecast will be based on how booths traditionally go (much like here) so I would say it is likely Jones will win.

    It is one thing to muck around with polls since they are hoping to influence the vote, but there is no point dicking around after the booths shut.

  86. Diogenes

    How does one get to be an AEC vote counter?

    With a few by-elections coming up, I want in on the action. $$$$

    Go to the AEC website. They are currently touting for staff, at least at Polling Place Manager, 2IC level (got emailed to get EOI in weeks ago) . My missus got an email this morning so they have worked their way down to peons who have worked before..

  87. Infidel Tiger

    Any normal human would have won Alabama by 20 points.

    Good work GOP.

  88. Leigh Lowe

    Harry … it looks like Moore will squeak home.
    50.8% vs 48% to Jones, with 880,000 votes counted.
    Alabama has 3.3 million registered voters, so that is 27% counted even if there is 100% turnout.
    Unless these votes are from Moore strongholds it looks good for him.

  89. littledozer

    Birmingham is not in Leigh strong Dem area depends on turnout

  90. littledozer

    They will call it for Jones/Dems very soon suspect

  91. harrys on the boat

    In the bag for Moore. Republicans didn’t get out and vote.

  92. Bruce of Newcastle

    I hope you realise that every electron you emit means a South Australian windmill has to work a tiny bit harder to charge Mr Musk’s Electric Battery and stop a baby fairy from dying of sadness.

    First baby fairy I’ve heard of with horns and a tail.
    Anyway if you give someone a single electron you are being extremely generous.

    One-electron universe

    Do you have that feeling that everything is going around in circles a lot?

  93. Mother Lode

    It is going to be great to see see crowds in the streets screaming ‘Not my Senator’, rioting, crying, wearing silly hats, abusing people who voted for Jones, threatening Jones and his family with violence, and talking about how Jones must have colluded with Da Wussians so his election is illegitimate and he should stand aside while he is investigated before he even takes his seat.

  94. wivenhoe

    NYT has Moore ahead by .7% with a little over 1 million votes counted.

  95. areff

    Precincts reporting: 85.5%

    Roy Moore
    49.2%
    527,231 votes

    Doug Jones
    49.2%
    527,098 votes

  96. v_maet

    NYT had jones up by 8% when it was at 50% of the count and it has been steadily dropping since then.

    Moore has this in the bag.

  97. Infidel Tiger

    Trumps impeachment almost guaranteed on these results after the mid terms.

  98. areff

    Moore has this in the bag.

    He’ll be pleased to have your support, as the latest figures put Jones ahead, Given that Democratic counties always report late, because they need to know how many votes to manufacture to get ahead, I reckon Moore is history.

  99. littledozer

    Moore has this in the bag.

    All over jones wins just went to 95% + certain

  100. GP

    On fire Riccardo. Good to see you back at the Village.

  101. Infidel Tiger

    Biggest loser? Steve Bannon.

  102. wivenhoe

    Now Jones by .7% and a 95%chance of winning.

  103. stackja

    Infidel Tiger
    #2583612, posted on December 13, 2017 at 2:19 pm
    Trumps impeachment almost guaranteed on these results after the mid terms.

    Hyperbowl!

  104. stackja

    Infidel Tiger
    #2583616, posted on December 13, 2017 at 2:22 pm
    Biggest loser? Steve Bannon.

    Alabama is.

  105. Boambee John

    Roger
    #2583543, posted on December 13, 2017 at 1:07 pm
    The progress to Eurabia reviewed.

    Our “betters” will tell us that there are “not enough to worry about” until overnight there will be “too many to antagonise”.

    That “tipping point” will come at around 4 to 5 percent of the population, and our betters will be “Shocked, I tell you, shocked” when they make the announcement.

  106. harrys on the boat

    Fuck sake I meant Jones not Moore.

  107. stackja

    The Associated Press‏Verified account
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    BREAKING: Democrat Doug Jones won election to the U.S. Senate from Alabama in a sharp blow to President Trump that narrows the GOP’s majority in the Senate to two. He beat Roy Moore, a former chief justice of the state Supreme Court who had been accused of sexual misconduct.
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    BREAKING: Democrat Doug Jones wins election as U.S. senator from Alabama. @AP race call at 10:23 p.m. EST. #AlabamaElection #APracecall

  108. mh

    Looks like the Deep State has won in Alabama.

    The libertarians on the site will be pleased.

  109. Dr Faustus

    Do you have that feeling that everything is going around in circles a lot?

    Endlessly.

    The biggest empirical problem with the one-electron universe theory is that it means that Magda Szubanski is part of the same mass as Halle Berry.

  110. littledozer

    Biggest loser? Steve Bannon.

    GOP for getting nothing done last 12 months?

    Alabama Reps supporters would have been pretty annoyed no action on Obummarcare where costs are accelerating the highest

    Two days ago, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services released a report showing that average premiums have increased by more than 200 percent for plans sold on Healthcare.gov in Alabama.

    Alabama premiums increased more, on average, than any of the 39 states that rely on the federal exchange. The increase of 223 percent between 2013 and 2017 was more than twice the national average of 105 percent, according to the study.

    “The numbers are staggering. Insurance premiums and deductibles have skyrocketed due to the regulations and mandates imposed by Obamacare,” U.S. Rep. Martha Roby (R-Ala.) said in a statement. “Providers have been forced out of the market, and Alabama consumers now only have one option for health insurance [Blue Cross Blue Shield of Alabama.]”

    U.S. Rep. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.) also released a statement.

  111. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    We now have proof that Alabamans prefer left wing abortion extremists to perverted Christianist whack jobs.

  112. AP reporting Jones has won. Via Drudge.

  113. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Looks like the Deep State has won in Alabama.

    Get a grip. Even without his recent perversion scandal, Roy Moore was perhaps the worst candidate ever nominated.

    Brooks or Strange win by 15-20 points. Trump endorsed Strange in the primaries.

  114. stackja

    Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)
    #2583629, posted on December 13, 2017 at 2:27 pm
    We now have proof that Alabamans prefer left wing abortion extremists to perverted Christianist whack jobs.

    MSM happy!

  115. wivenhoe

    Jones has won according to AP.

  116. Rae

    Fuck sake I meant Jones not Moore.

    Figured that. No worries. It’s not like you left out an “l”.

  117. Tel

    Are you getting your money’s worth.

    Did Tony Jones tell you about these kids?

    Hopefully Syria does a round of war crime trials, along with documentation of what the Sunni radicals did in the past few years because this kind of stuff needs to be remembered and whether you want to blame it on Islam, or else just radical Islam, or whatever you want… point is there were a lot of atrocities.

    And Trump says he’s going to move one embassy, but that’s a big deal and justification for violence, while extensive war crimes get ignored. It’s incredible.

  118. stackja

    The Associated Press‏Verified account
    @AP
    47s47 seconds ago
    More
    Democrat Doug Jones wins election to US Senate from Alabama, beating Republican Roy Moore who had been accused of sexual misconduct with young girls

  119. Roger

    That “tipping point” will come at around 4 to 5 percent of the population, and our betters will be “Shocked, I tell you, shocked” when they make the announcement.

    If politicians had their babies in public hospitals they wouldn’t be “shocked”.

    Robber Barron recorded some apropos observations about his experiences here a short while back.

  120. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    If Alabama loses a Republican Senator, Trump is going to face the most hostile Senate and House in living memory next year.

    He’s toast.

  121. stackja

    Tel
    #2583637, posted on December 13, 2017 at 2:31 pm

    ME politics.

  122. Zyconoclast

    Just heard Roy Moore lost.

  123. Mother Lode

    Now we will get to see what comes out about the claims and accusations against Moore.

  124. stackja

    Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)
    #2583640, posted on December 13, 2017 at 2:31 pm
    If Alabama loses a Republican Senator, Trump is going to face the most hostile Senate and House in living memory next year.

    He’s toast.

    More hyperbowl?

  125. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Just heard Roy Moore lost.

    Bigly.

    Well deserved too. Pity the other guy had to win though to get rid of Moore.

  126. stackja

    Mother Lode
    #2583643, posted on December 13, 2017 at 2:34 pm
    Now we will get to see what comes out about the claims and accusations against Moore.

    Silence?

  127. Zyconoclast

    I posted a link last night that Trumps tax bill hands over big dollars to illegals with children.

    Where is the wall?

  128. Tel

    ME politics.

    True, but there’s bad guys and then there’s worse guys. Assad is no angel, but he does represent some kind of rule of law, and he has managed to keep different religious and ethnic groups in check without too much violence. If he’s smart he will have open trials with evidence and documentation… make the world take a good look.

  129. stackja

    Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)
    #2583645, posted on December 13, 2017 at 2:34 pm
    Just heard Roy Moore lost.

    Bigly.

    Well deserved too. Pity the other guy had to win though to get rid of Moore.

    Hyper Super Bowl?

  130. Top Ender

    Why Dastardly should be allowed to hang around to collect more dosh:

    Malcolm Turnbull is demanding Sam Dastyari’s immediate resignation, but Bill Shorten argues there is precedent for departing politicians to take time to wrap up their affairs.

    The embattled NSW Labor figure announced on Tuesday he will quit parliament after being engulfed in a deepening scandal concerning his links to a Chinese political donor.

    But foreshadowing his resignation isn’t enough for the prime minister. Mr Turnbull says the senator betrayed Australia.

    “He’s still taking money from the taxpayers of the country that he put second,” Mr Turnbull told reporters in Sydney on Wednesday.

    But the opposition leader said former Liberal ministers Joe Hockey and Michael Ronaldson quit 34 and 73 days respectively after announcing they would resign.

    Former Greens leader Christine Milne took 98 days, he said.

    Unlike Senator Dastyari, however, none of them were forced out by self inflicted controversy.

    “There’s plenty of precedent for people to professionally wrap up their matters and give staff plenty of notice,” Mr Shorten told reporters in Sydney.

    “That’s what any sensible person does.”

    He expects Senator Dastyari, who plans to step down before NSW state parliament sits to formally endorse his replacement in February, to officially exit “sooner rather than later”.

    Treasurer Scott Morrison joined other senior Turnbull government ministers in labelling the saga as a failure of the opposition leader.

    “Bill Shorten failed another test by not kicking Sam Dastyari out of the Labor Party,” Mr Morrison told ABC Radio.

    Labor frontbencher Richard Marles denied the powerbroker’s departure had sparked factional friction within the party.

    “It’s impossible not to feel sad today and we feel that; it’s not tension,” Mr Marles told Sky News on Wednesday.

    Oz

  131. stackja

    Tel
    #2583648, posted on December 13, 2017 at 2:36 pm
    ME politics.

    True, but there’s bad guys and then there’s worse guys. Assad is no angel, but he does represent some kind of rule of law, and he has managed to keep different religious and ethnic groups in check without too much violence. If he’s smart he will have open trials with evidence and documentation… make the world take a good look.

    World not interested?

  132. Boambee John

    m0nty will be ejaculating all over the thread in 3 – 2 – 1!

  133. stackja

    Top Ender
    #2583650, posted on December 13, 2017 at 2:38 pm

    Sam can still play.

  134. Zyconoclast

    Freckletons party loses an election and she says running a positive campaign was not the wrong thing to do.

    So running a losing campaign was the right thing to do.

    Expect another 16 years of ALP.

    By then Qlds will be living in caves. Nothing will be left to rebuild.

  135. It’s ok John, I always don the hazmat gear before visiting the cat.

  136. testpattern

    prohibition by any other name

    ‘Communities that would be affected include the mining centres of Karratha, Port Hedland, Newman, Paraburdoo and Tom Price, as well as the tourist town of Exmouth and smaller communities such as Wickham, Onslow and Marble Bar.’

    I told you 5 months ago. Prohibition. The sensible alternative to cashless cards. The cops are running with it because the health professionals know they’ll be ignored if they go public too early.

    test pattern
    #2502064, posted on September 19, 2017 at 5:20 pm
    The Prohibition that I predicted last month has begun. Bans on alcohol today in Hedland, pubs can only serve mid strength with meals, everything else banned. This will be rolled out incrementally, with the full backing of the health professionals community

  137. John Constantine

    Australia’s immigration policy is based on the feeling that our paid informants from within imported diversity plantations are our strength against terrorism.

    Therefore we must massively increase our importation of people for our paid informants to sell us information about, so we can avoid mass casualty terror attacks.

    You would know this made sense, if you were from the government.

    Safe Holidays, Comrades.

  138. Arnost

    Looks like the Deep State has won in Alabama

    The killer was that the establishment Republicans strongly campaigned against him in the last week or so. The fact that he disappeared at the same time and then panicked with a couple of silly statements at the last minute did not help.

    Personally I think the only thing Moore had going for him was his support for Trump. Definitely a flawed candidate as he obviously carries a lot of fundamentalist baggage, and I’m guessing that this is why Trump did not support him in the primary. But he may have been a critical vote later as Jones will only be too happy voting to impeach Trump when Muller finds a fib about a bottle of wine or such…

  139. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    A big win for George Soros.

    They nominated a perverted pedof1ile who was hated in Alabama even before people found out he was a creep and he still almost won!

    Imagine what happens if they nominate a candidate who doesn’t molest teenagers?

  140. Oh come on

    On the matter of Trump “ogling” a beauty pageant contestant, another shock story is breaking regarding the issue of toxic masculinity and its various manifestations:

    Former Playboy Playmate feeling disgust, degraded by mag pics

    Former Playboy model Ima “Fame” Hoare said the knowledge that thousands, perhaps millions of teenage boys and men had masturbated repeatedly with the assistance of nude pictures of her that featured in Playboy magazine. “I feel cheap and used,” Ms Hoare told reporters recently. “I cannot believe that men would use my pictures in this way. It’s something I never thought about. I didn’t sign up for this.”

    Ms Hoare is seeking unspecified damages from the magazine that published the images in question. Her attorney, Gloria Allred, told the assembled media that Ms Hoare had no further comments to make at this stage.

  141. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)
    #2583640, posted on December 13, 2017 at 2:31 pm
    If Alabama loses a Republican Senator, Trump is going to face the most hostile Senate and House in living memory next year.

    He’s toast.

    Remain calm.
    The half-terms have a lot of exposed Dems on thin margins.
    The year book trick won’t work for all of them.

  142. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Personally I think the only thing Moore had going for him was his support for Trump.

    Trump endorsed Strange. He gave Moore a half hearted thumbs up. He sure as hell didn’t want that lunatics stench on him.

    This is McConnell and Bannon’s fuck up.

  143. testpattern

    PFAS

    ‘The Federal Government today launched a $13 million research program to tackle PFAS in the environment.

    The Department of Defence is using US-developed resin technology to clean PFAS from contaminated groundwater in Katherine. The plant cost $4 million to clean one megalitre of groundwater per day.’

    https://www.katherinetimes.com.au/story/5119377/govt-acts-to-clean-up-pfas/?cs=5802

  144. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Full-strength takeaway beer sales would also be banned, with only mid-strength beer to be available at a limit of one carton per person a day.

    Spirit sales would be capped at one 750ml bottle for each person and wine sales limited to three bottles.

    People wanting to buy a combination of beer, spirits and wine would only be able to buy half of the daily maximum of each.

    Allow me to refresh your memory, Pest Tattern. You claim this is “Prohibition?” U dope.

  145. Bruce of Newcastle

    Imagine what happens if they nominate a candidate who doesn’t molest teenagers?

    The exact same thing since they already had one.
    Mysterious how every Republican politician in Alabama molested the same few women 40 years ago.

  146. Another huge loss for Trump, just the biggest loss. What a loser. LOL.

  147. Leigh Lowe

    Malcolm Turnbull is demanding Sam Dastyari’s immediate resignation, but Bill Shorten argues there is precedent for departing politicians to take time to wrap up their affairs.

    Wrap up their affairs = shred everything.

  148. John Constantine

    If we refused to import the returning rape jihadis that ravished and ruined Syria, that would have been racist.

    Literally Nazi racist, enough that our paid informants within Australia’s jihadi bunkers would have become so enraged they would have not sold us the information to enable us to pay enough tribute to dodge terrorism from jihadis.

  149. Arnost

    Now we will get to see what comes out about the claims and accusations against Moore

    Moore has threatened to sue WaPo… If he does and it will be interesting as he should have a case that they were pushing a self confessed forgery even as late as the day before the election. [But my guess is that that will not come to anything].

  150. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Ann Coulter‏Verified account
    @AnnCoulter

    I hate everyone who opposed Roy Moore, so I’d laugh if he won, but I secretly hope Moore loses, so Mo Brooks can replace the Dem in 2 years.

    Correct.

  151. testpattern

    Frac good to go

    “The overall conclusion of the Report is that risk is inherent in all development and that an onshore shale gas industry is no exception. However, if the recommendations made in this draft Report are adopted and implemented in full, those risks may be mitigated or reduced – and in many cases eliminated altogether – to acceptable levels having regard to the totality of the evidence.

    https://frackinginquiry.nt.gov.au/news/community-update-26

  152. Oh come on

    Trump qualified his support for Moore on the basis he needed his vote in the Senate. Which is true. But still a bad look for the WH that the Dems will capitalise on. Trump famously hates backing losers. He backed Luther Strange, who lost. Then he backed Moore, who lost.

    On the other hand – and I do admit this is the tiniest of
    silver linings – seating Moore would have been really tricky.

  153. Top Ender

    That’s not a lawsuit, THAT’S a lawsuit.

    Crocodile Dundee star Paul Hogan has thrown another court case on the barbie, launching action against burger chain Grill’d over its use of his most famous movie catchphrases.

    Hogan objects to the use of the line “That’s not a knife, that’s a knife” — spoken by his bushman character Mick Dundee in the 1986 hit Crocodile Dundee — on cutlery sleeves distributed to Grill’d customers looking to carve into a burger.

    In the movie, Hogan’s crocodile-hunting character speaks the line as he pulls out a dangerous-looking Bowie knife after being threatened by muggers with a switchblade.

    And in the Federal Court case, Hogan has pulled out legal weapons including allegations Grill’d has made a false or misleading representation that the use of the quote is endorsed by him or by his company, Rimfire Films.

    He also accuses Grill’d of a “flagrant” breach of copyright law and claims the chain has refused to promise to stop distributing the cutlery sleeves and not to do it again.

    The millionaire movie star seeks an injunction stopping Grill’d using the cutlery sleeve, and damages for passing off and breaching the Copyright Act.

    He also wants the damages to be increased through so-called “exemplary damages” because Grill’d “has been engaged in flagrant disregard” of his rights and refused to enter an undertaking to stop handing out the cutlery sleeves.

    “The respondent threatens to continue to engage in the conduct complained of in this statement of claim, with the result that the applicants are likely to suffer further loss and damage, unless the respondent is restrained,” Hogan said in a statement of claim filed with the court last week.

    Hogan claims the “knife line” — as it’s referred to in the claim document — is valuable because it has been “heard by the many consumers in Australia who have seen the Crocodile Dundee movie” and “has been featured, mentioned or referred to on television, in print, on the internet, and in popular culture, in Australia”.

    He claims Grill’d has used the line on cutlery sleeves since at least June, “without the licence of either of Rimfire or Mr Hogan”.

    undefined
    Paul Hogan in Sydney yesday. Pic: Justin Lloyd.
    Hogan told the court he wrote Crocodile Dundee with Ken Shadie and assigned the merchandising rights to the film to his company, Rimfire Films, in May 1985.

    Those rights included “the manufacture and sale of goods … reproducing, depicting or decorated with the characters, scenes, themes, incidents and articles appearing” in the film, according to an excerpt of a deed of assignment included in the statement of claim.

    Grill’d has yet to file a defence.

    It’s not Hogan’s first tangle with the Australian court system.

    In 2010, a stoush between the movie star and media organisations seeking legal documents related to a $150m fight with the Taxation Office went all the way to the High Court.

    Hogan lost, establishing an important precedent about access to court documents.

    Grill’d and Hogan’s lawyers, Robinson Legal, have been contacted for comment.

    Website at the Oz open for comments, facetious or otherwise…

  154. On the side of rock spiders: conservatives.

    On the side of destroyers of the KKK: liberals.

    USSR must have had a stroke today.

  155. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    The good news is that sexual predator Al Franken must resign now.

  156. Bruce of Newcastle

    Frac good to go

    Um, TP, you do realise that the ALP is running NT? And that WA is also run by the ALP? And that WA has just banned fracking because feelz?

    Its gunna happen TP.

  157. Dr Faustus

    Freckletons party loses an election and she says running a positive campaign was not the wrong thing to do.

    The imbecile Tim Nicholls stood still for the ALP’s “Campbell Newman’s Right Hand Man” attack ads. In fact, he agreed that the Newman Government fed kittens and puppies into an industrial shredder – but promised he had learned from the experience.

    The Freckle has to sack up and go forensic on the forthcoming festival of mismanagement, rather than polish and rearrange the 100 LNP policies the electorate kicked into the ditch.

  158. Leigh Lowe

    stackja

    #2583644, posted on December 13, 2017 at 2:34 pm

    Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)
    #2583640, posted on December 13, 2017 at 2:31 pm
    If Alabama loses a Republican Senator, Trump is going to face the most hostile Senate and House in living memory next year.

    He’s toast.

    More hyperbowl?

    No.
    It’s this infernal heatwave.
    It’s drivin’ folks crazy.
    Have a lay-down on the cold tiles in the bathroom with a wet face-washer on your forehead until it passes, Tiger.

  159. Mother Lode

    Now, no one pick on Monty.

    He has had a hell of a year – just let him savour this one tiny morsel of winning – since we have gorged ourselves to repletion day in day out over the same time.

  160. Mother Lode

    USSR must have had a stroke today.

    What srr does with her own hands is her own business.

  161. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    David French‏Verified account
    @DavidAFrench
    spective on the magnitude of Steve Bannon’s accomplishment. Two decades of AL GOP senate races:

    1998 GOP + 27
    2002 GOP +19
    2004 GOP +35
    2008 GOP +26
    2010 GOP +31
    2014 GOP +95 (yep!)

    2017 . . . A little closer

    Candidates just might matter.

  162. testpattern

    some “sick” people were allegedly trying to disturb the communal harmony in society…

    NEW DELHI: Union minister Mukhtar Abbas Naqvi today sought to see the burning to death of a Muslim labourer in Rajasthan earlier this week as a “criminal incident” and not as a case of “love jihad” as was being alleged. The minority affairs minister also, without naming anyone, said that some “sick” people were allegedly trying to disturb the communal harmony in society…

    …A 48-year-old Muslim labourer, from West Bengal, was hacked and burnt to death in Rajasthan’s Rajsamand earlier this week, leading the police to arrest the killer, seen raving against “love jihad” while torching Mohammad Afrazul in videos of the incident shared on social media.’

    https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/muslim-mans-murder-in-rajasthan-a-criminal-incident-not-love-jihad-mukhtar-abbas-naqvi-1785761

  163. harrys on the boat

    Jones has that typical lefty look like m0nty. A complete fucking nonce. Shouldn’t be allowed near children.

  164. jupes

    But the opposition leader said former Liberal ministers Joe Hockey and Michael Ronaldson quit 34 and 73 days respectively after announcing they would resign.

    Yes but they didn’t resign in absolute disgrace you fucking peanut head.

  165. Tel

    Candidates just might matter.

    Maybe Moore wasn’t the ideal candidate but that year book signature was a forgery, they copied it off a marriage certificate including the initials of Moore’s secretary. The woman in question even admitted that she had doctored up an extra comment on the year book which basically tells you none of it can be trusted.

    Now that the Dems understand that rural Alabama voters can be easily tricked, they will keep doing it again to every candidate.

  166. Bruce of Newcastle

    M0nty is giving us an excellent tutorial in why the Democrats won in Alabama.
    Lies upon lies. Who of the ordinary people reliant on the MSM would know that the KKK has been a Democrat-run organisation since the Civil War?

  167. testpattern

    ‘Crocodile Dundee star Paul Hogan’

    Gigantic fraud. The real ‘Croc Dundee’ was a blackfella from Wildman River who was imitated by Ansell. Both are now dead. Freddie was my best mate from schooldays, who shot himself when he was disinherited. Ansell was a freak who was hanging around with one of the crazy Tapp girls before he flamed out.

  168. Baldrick

    Now we will get to see what comes out about the claims and accusations against Moore.

    Nothing will happen.

  169. Dr Faustus

    Therefore we must massively increase our importation of people for our paid informants to sell us information about, so we can avoid mass casualty terror attacks.

    Loudspeakers are the real solution to mass casualty terror attacks.

    The authorities will be able to shout timely instructions to ‘Duck and Cover’, or ‘Stop, Drop and Roll’ as required by the situation. Followed by calming music and up-to-date instructions on how many breaths and how many compressions to give.

  170. Bruce of Newcastle

    Watch M0nty now bring out the Alinsky textbook.
    He’s predictable.

  171. Mother Lode

    Has Testes always had this jaundiced Aboriginal squint?

    It’s new isn’t it?

    It is more than a little unsettling.

  172. jupes

    Assad is no angel, but he does represent some kind of rule of law, and he has managed to keep different religious and ethnic groups in check without too much violence.

    Assad enabled foreign jihadis entered Iraq through Syria. When those same jihadi scum turned on him that was karma biting him on the arse. He deserved it.

    War crimes trials are just a farce these days and they would be doubly so if Assad held them. On the other hand, even if as expected he took revenge rather than dishing out justice it wouldn’t be all bad, as long as plenty of jihadis are executed.

  173. entropy

    Hope Hoges hacks Grill’d to pieces. Bunch of poster SJWs as a marketing tool.

  174. Empire GTHO Phase III

    On the other hand – and I do admit this is the tiniest of
    silver linings – seating Moore would have been really tricky.

    How so OCO?

    If he’d won the vote he was qualified to sit. The shitstorm of GOPe + DNC conniptions could only have come after he was seated.

  175. wivenhoe

    Has Testes always had this jaundiced Aboriginal squint?

    I think it is mandatory if you wish to consume from the Aboriginal , never empty, trough.

  176. jupes

    Has Testes always had this jaundiced Aboriginal squint?

    No, he started out as the Southern Hemisphere’s James Bond, getting into all sorts of adventures in South East Asia.

    Eventually he must have got sick of the constant beclowning so he changed into Australia’s Phantom, living among the blacks and championing their causes.

    Life is better if you just scroll past the dickhead.

  177. Chris

    On the side of rock spiders: conservatives.
    On the side of destroyers of the KKK: liberals.

    I know, right? Usually its SO the other way around.

  178. jupes

    Loudspeakers are the real solution to mass casualty terror attacks.

    Meanwhile Muslims keep on being invited to live here.

    Too.Stupid.To.Survive.

  179. Baldrick

    TheirABC says Moore lost, even though …

    Republican candidate Roy Moore has been beaten by Democrat Doug Jones in a crucial US Senate election in Alabama, dealing a blow to President Donald Trump’s agenda.
    Mr Trump had also recorded robo-calls to voters to bolster turnout for Mr Moore, and held a campaign rally across the border in Florida last week.

    $1.3 billion for such in-depth analysis.

  180. John Constantine

    Their yarragrad public loudspeakers in public places.

    Is it too soon to broadcast the Islamic call to prayer through them?.

    For special occasions?.

    Give it five years.

    Comrades.

  181. Empire GTHO Phase III

    Now that the Dems understand that rural Alabama voters can be easily tricked, they will keep doing it again to every candidate.

    Maybe.

    Wait for final returns. The analysis will say Moore had a turnout problem. That risk was identified before the forgery was pushed.

    Moore spent too much time courting national media and not enough time knocking on doors. That made him an easier target for a fakestream media take down, but he might have already sealed his fate with lack of ground game.

  182. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Hope Hoges hacks Grill’d to pieces. Bunch of poster SJWs as a marketing tool.

    Terrible, over-priced burgers too.

    Burgers 4 Chix is what they should be called.

  183. stackja

    Baldrick
    #2583709, posted on December 13, 2017 at 3:23 pm $1.3 billion for such in-depth analysis.

    ‘In-depth analysis’ of CNN reports.

  184. Ubique

    The purpose of migration is to build the economy, shape society, support the labour market and reunite family.”

    We don’t have to be drawn into reuniting family if we avoid using immigration to unkindly separate families in the first place.

  185. Tel

    On the side of destroyers of the KKK: liberals.

    The KKK were mostly Democrats, look it up.

  186. testpattern

    The Russians are coming, not far now

    ‘Friendship and cooperation between the Air Force and the Russian Air Force from time to time are getting closer. Not only about the purchase of Sukhoi Su-27/30 aircraft, but now it has also penetrated to the friendship of its officers. As recently took place, where dozens of Russian Air Force personnel, led by Commander of squadron water Let Vladimir Golovkin visit Air Base (Lanud) Biak, Papua.’

    Using two Ilyusin IL-76 aircraft as a team and two Tupolev Tu-95 bomber planes that have received SC (security clereance) from TNI Headquarters, Russian Air Force personnel landed at Frans Kasiepo airport, Biak on Tuesday morning (5/12 / 2017). Their mission is to carry out long-distance navigation exercises, combined with a friendly visit program between the Air Force.’

    https://jakartagreater.com/latihan-navigasi-udara-angkatan-udara-rusia-kunjungi-lanud-biak/

    12 hours nonstop from Vladivostok. Just adventure chess tourism. Shhhh…

  187. Fisky

    Oh no! Moore goes down. Disaster!

  188. Jo Smyth

    Hope the cricket is good tomorrow. Anything to get away from this bloody awful news cycle.

  189. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Oh no! Moore goes down. Disaster!

    Just as the polls predicted.

  190. stackja

    Tel
    #2583717, posted on December 13, 2017 at 3:31 pm
    On the side of destroyers of the KKK: liberals.

    The KKK were mostly Democrats, look it up.

    Stop using facts. Causes upsets.

  191. wivenhoe

    Anything to get away from this bloody awful news cycle.

    I get better cycles from my washing machine, even have a rinse and recycle function. May be able to make a mint by selling it to the “tit” man to use for poor, hard done by, Sam.

  192. stackja

    Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)
    #2583723, posted on December 13, 2017 at 3:41 pm
    Oh no! Moore goes down. Disaster!

    Just as the polls predicted.

    Like HRC ‘victory’?

  193. Malcolm reminds me of a PNG politician I saw in Port Moresby.

    He did nothing for his entire term and just before his next election, went to all the villages giving away slabs of SP Lager.

    The villagers took the beer, got drunk, and promised to vote for him, which they didn’t.

  194. marcus classis

    On the side of rock spiders: conservatives.

    The ABC and all the proglodyte supporters of the kiddie sexual grooming program called ‘safe schools’ as secret conservatives? Who knew?

    On the side of destroyers of the KKK: liberals.

    The US Republicans and conservatives who destroyed the Democrat’s KKK are secretly admired by the US left who owned, operated, formed, led and funded the KKK? Who knew?

    Or perhaps a new meth supplier is needed by dear old Sir Thwackalot.

  195. notafan

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account
    @realDonaldTrump
    42m42 minutes ago
    More
    Congratulations to Doug Jones on a hard fought victory. The write-in votes played a very big factor, but a win is a win. The people of Alabama are great, and the Republicans will have another shot at this seat in a very short period of time. It never ends!

  196. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account
    @realDonaldTrump
    Follow Follow @realDonaldTrump

    Congratulations to Doug Jones on a hard fought victory. The write-in votes played a very big factor, but a win is a win. The people of Alabama are great, and the Republicans will have another shot at this seat in a very short period of time. It never ends!

    Hahaha! He’s right you know.

  197. notafan

    because lols

    DPRK News Service‏
    @DPRK_News
    28m28 minutes ago
    More
    Unexpected victory by Douglas Jones in US Alabama Province to be stinging rebuke to ephebophiles, open racism, and perverted Bayesian Analysis.

  198. RobK

    One free electron from me.
    Tel sets himself up as a free radical.
    ….have one from me as well.

  199. Final two minutes of Aaron Copland’s Lincoln Portrait with Henry Fonda.
    Listen to the whole thing if you have time.

    We don’t have politicians like this.
    We need them.
    Perhaps one day.
    If we are deserving.

  200. Mother Lode

    reunite family

    Isn’t immigration, letting in the first one, separating the families in the first place?

    Another government program – they spend money creating a problem, then spend more money trying to undo it.

  201. notafan

    One free electron from me.
    Tel sets himself up as a free radical.
    ….have one from me as well.

    Thank you so very much

    Dan is his wisdom has restored my electicity supply

    I’ll save it for next time.

  202. testpattern

    Russian planes in Papua, Darwin automatically on alert –

    Distance Russia Indonesia: 9800 KM
    Cruising Power TU-160: 12,300 km (7,643 mi) practical distance Mach 0.77 and carry two internal rotary launchers each holding 6 missiles Roaming × Raduga Kh-55SM / 101 / 102 (primary weaponry) or 12 × Raduga Kh-15 short-range nuclear missiles.
    The Kh-55 has a range of up to 3,000 km (1,620 nm) and can carry conventional or nuclear warheads.

    Tu-95 from Vladivostok passing Jepang, Philipps, Biak. Okinawa base, Midway base, Yokosuka Base, Pearl Harbour base, Guam Base and Darwin base on alert. The Tu-95 may return directly to Russia, but may go to India then Syria. Russia and Indonesia have a MOU to construct a space base at Biak.

  203. Empire GTHO Phase III

    Looking past the impeachment hyperbole, Trump’s problem is 2020. His immigration reform just ran into a 12 month hiatus. The GOPe will now leverage his policy agenda for amnesty concessions.

    Bannon has rogered MAGA.

  204. Boambee John

    m0nty at 1455

    On the side of destroyers of the KKK: liberals.

    It’s entirely reasonable that the D’rats should take responsibility for the task of destroying the KKK. After all, they founded it.

    True left fascists.

  205. P

    Heard Moore’s speech live on Breitbart just a while ago.

    Now for something else, better – How good is Sarah Huckabee Sanders?

    h/t srr – https://twitter.com/srrohohyes

  206. Boambee John

    m0nty at 1455

    USSR must have had a stroke today.

    m0nty is having many strokes today. No wonder he’s smiling!

  207. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Roy Moore is refusing to concede the election result and is asking supporters to pray for him http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/roy-moore-loss-election-concede-doug-jones-supporters-pray-a8106836.html

    A certifiable whackjob.

  208. stackja

    Annual Message to Congress
    Concluding Remarks

    Washington, D.C.
    December 1, 1862
    One month before signing the Emancipation Proclamation, President Lincoln sent a long message to Congress which was largely routine, but also proposed controversial measures such as voluntary colonization of slaves and compensated emancipation.
    Lincoln devoted so much attention to preparing the message that his friend David Davis said, “Mr. Lincoln’s whole soul is absorbed in his plan of remunerative emancipation.” The concluding paragraphs shown below demonstrate Lincoln’s passion for this plan and contain some of the most famous statements he ever wrote. Composer Aaron Copland used excerpts in his evocative “Lincoln Portrait.”

    I do not forget the gravity which should characterize a paper addressed to the Congress of the nation by the Chief Magistrate of the nation. Nor do I forget that some of you are my seniors, nor that many of you have more experience than I, in the conduct of public affairs. Yet I trust that in view of the great responsibility resting upon me, you will perceive no want of respect yourselves, in any undue earnestness I may seem to display.

    Is it doubted, then, that the plan I propose, if adopted, would shorten the war, and thus lessen its expenditure of money and of blood? Is it doubted that it would restore the national authority and national prosperity, and perpetuate both indefinitely? Is it doubted that we here–Congress and Executive–can secure its adoption? Will not the good people respond to a united, and earnest appeal from us? Can we, can they, by any other means, so certainly, or so speedily, assure these vital objects? We can succeed only by concert. It is not “can any of us imagine better?” but, “can we all do better?” The dogmas of the quiet past, are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty, and we must rise — with the occasion. As our case is new, so we must think anew, and act anew. We must disenthrall ourselves, and then we shall save our country.

    Fellow-citizens, we cannot escape history. We of this Congress and this administration, will be remembered in spite of ourselves. No personal significance, or insignificance, can spare one or another of us. The fiery trial through which we pass, will light us down, in honor or dishonor, to the latest generation. We say we are for the Union. The world will not forget that we say this. We know how to save the Union. The world knows we do know how to save it. We — even we here — hold the power, and bear the responsibility. In giving freedom to the slave, we assure freedom to the free — honorable alike in what we give, and what we preserve. We shall nobly save, or meanly lose, the last best hope of earth. Other means may succeed; this could not fail. The way is plain, peaceful, generous, just — a way which, if followed, the world will forever applaud, and God must forever bless.

  209. stackja

    Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)
    #2583742, posted on December 13, 2017 at 4:04 pm
    Roy Moore is refusing to concede the election result and is asking supporters to pray for him http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/roy-moore-loss-election-concede-doug-jones-supporters-pray-a8106836.html

    A certifiable whackjob.

    More hyperbowl?

  210. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Stackja, do you think Roy Moore is a normal man?

  211. Boambee John

    test pattern at 1544

    Tu-95s and Il-76s are very old aircraft. The Russians are not sending their first team.

  212. Knuckle Dragger

    Zulu at lunchtime;

    Yep – Tennant Creek went to the same restrictions in 2006 or so, with the exception that you could buy one carton of full strength beer per man, per outlet.

    Predictably, it inconvenienced the responsible drinkers (ie those with jobs) and the locals went to Plan B, which was putting their mid strength and goon in the sun for an hour or two, then drinking it nice and hot. While they were in the sun as well. Resulted in them going off their heads, as anyone who has spent a day drinking in the sun at the races will attest to.

    But you know what – in my time I’ve been as drunk as eleventy men on numerous occasions (not so much now), and in over 30 years of the occasional tipple NOT ONCE have I had the urge to either belt a woman, or worse still rape a child. Not even close.

    So either I’m the greatest human being that ever lived, which as a Collingwood supporter I most certainly am not, or there’s another factor in play here.

    It couldn’t be the culture of flogging women and killing children that the First Fleeters noted and documented 240 years ago. Nah.

    Probably not.

    Must be something else. A mystery wrapped in an enigma, if you will.

  213. Snoopy

    Hopefully Moore will now occupy his time suing Wapo etc and their neurotic Democrat patsies.

  214. zyconoclast

    You see blokes walking around holding hands occasionally.

    Doesn’t necessarily mean they’re poofs. I don’t know about Sri Lanka but in PNG it is the done thing for blokes to hold hands.

    Could be an Islander thing to do.
    Often they are both too big to take on so no one calls them p00fs.

  215. Knuckle Dragger

    Testes,

    We agree on something!

    Paul Hogan is indeed a gigantic fraud. You see, he is an actor. He is/was paid for dressing in other people’s clothes and saying things other people thought of.

    The Tapps still pervade the area around Katherine, unfortunately. Hopefully a Russian bomber will take them out this afternoon, seeing as how we’re on ‘alert’ and all.

    Which we aren’t, by the way. Watching and being on alert are vastly different things.

  216. zyconoclast

    stackja
    #2583328, posted on December 13, 2017 at 8:02 am
    Sam Dastyari was a ‘protégé who became an extraordinary politician’
    SHARRI MARKSON, COMMENT, The Daily Telegraph
    December 13, 2017 12:00am

    Looks like a copy and paste from the ABC.
    Sam Dastyari and the murky links with Chinese businessmen that ended his political career

    Why are journos and academics in love with this treasonous (and ineligible to sit in the Senate) ALP political hack?

  217. Snoopy

    Won’t someone think of Franken? What’s his excuse for not resigning now?

  218. OneWorldGovernment

    Riccardo Bosi
    #2583745, posted on December 13, 2017 at 4:06 pm

    Great ad

    Excuse me, are you Santa Claus?

    Thanks Ricardo

  219. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Hopefully Moore will now occupy his time suing Wapo etc and their neurotic Democrat patsies.

    A wise counsel would advise a known creep and pervert not to proceed with this folly.

  220. DrBeauGan

    Excess Equity:
    AU$ 110,728.47

    I made $10,728:47 by ten o’clock this morning. I lost about twenty dollars on bitcoin and made over ten thousand on ethereum. This in less than twenty-four hours.

    Only pretend money. I shall go to real money on Friday. Not $100,000 in the first instance, I need to be sure withdrawals are straightforward. I’ve arranged for the fixed term deposit to be transferred to my current account. On Friday I’ll move it to a trading account to make it easy to see the state of play.

    This trading could be addictive. I didn’t get to sleep until 7:00 am. I doubt if I’ll make $10,000 a day every day.

    It’s not that I need the money, but it’s an interesting game.

  221. zyconoclast

    Canada to buy Australian Hornets, scrap Super Hornet deal – report

    Is there something wrong when 2 allegedly first world countries are playing swapsies with very old and obsolete war planes?
    If they didn’t waste all the money on welfare, immigration and NDIS type stuff they afford to buy all the newest war toys.

  222. stackja

    zyconoclast
    #2583761, posted on December 13, 2017 at 4:25 pm
    stackja
    #2583328, posted on December 13, 2017 at 8:02 am
    Sam Dastyari was a ‘protégé who became an extraordinary politician’
    SHARRI MARKSON, COMMENT, The Daily Telegraph
    December 13, 2017 12:00am

    Looks like a copy and paste from the ABC.
    Sam Dastyari and the murky links with Chinese businessmen that ended his political career

    Why are journos and academics in love with this treasonous (and ineligible to sit in the Senate) ALP political hack?

    Alan Ashbolt’s ‘children’

  223. H B Bear

    ALPBC news reporting that The Performing Stick Insect is saying that the Persian Dwarf is keeping his seat warm until after the Bennelong by-election in case Bambi is rejected again. If the Liars did parachute her onto the red leather it would be the worst case of recycling old junk since Juliar went Used Carr shopping all those years ago.

  224. jupes

    Paul Hogan is indeed a gigantic fraud. You see, he is an actor. He is/was paid for dressing in other people’s clothes and saying things other people thought of.

    Nope. Hoges, John Cornell and Ken Shadie wrote the screenplay.

  225. JC

    Doc

    Try the US Money Centre banks. It’s been a one street since Trump day and doesn’t appear to be stopping. Forget gamer money bullshit.

    Buy banks wear diamonds. It’s also very gentlemanly in that you don’t need exert yourself.

    🙂

  226. Des Deskperson

    “He did nothing for his entire term and just before his next election, went to all the villages giving away slabs of SP Lager.”

    The money doubtless came from the one or other of the Services Improvement Programmes, direct grants of Government money to MPs, ostensibly to improve district and provincial infrastructure. These grantsy are supposed to enhance responsiveness and cut out the red tape and delays associated with funds distributed through the official bureaucracy, but there is little or no serious accountability.

    I doubt if any Australia aid money goes directly to these programmes but since they comprise around 1/6 th of the PNG budget, it certainly helps underwrite them, so indirectly, at least, our taxes probably helped fund the booze-up.

    The SP brewery, BTW, seems to largest structure in Port Moresby. The second largest is the Australian diplomatic compound.

  227. Snoopy

    Canada to buy Australian Hornets, scrap Super Hornet deal – report

    The Australian angle continues to gain momentum, with Canadian officials reportedly visiting RAAF Williamtown in August to inspect the RAAF aircraft, and Australian officials visiting Ottawa in November for further discussions.

    What a joke.

    Snouts. Trough.

  228. Snoopy

    Roy Moore’s defeat is a surprise pushback against deeply partisan US politics, writes Washington bureau chief Zoe Daniel.

    Zoe Daniel? The weeping ABC reporter with the smudged mascara on the night Hills went down?

  229. notafan

    Interesting that Donald Trump accepts the will of the people of Alabama, and Thomas Wictor , though he thinks people were sucked in, agree that the vote was free and fair but the usual suspects are running around reinforcing their tin foil helmets.

  230. Empire GTHO Phase III

    Tu-95s and Il-76s are very old aircraft. The Russians are not sending their first team.

    The Bear still plays an important role in Russia’s strategic air capability, similar to the B-52 for the US.

    http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/one-russias-most-deadly-bombers-now-has-scary-new-capability-21435

    Testie’s drip-drip hysteria is naff, but. The Russians are trying to flog the Indos Su-35s. The whole shebang is arms industry PR boilerplate, albeit Russian style.

    The Russian military-industrial complex makes good gear at affordable prices.

  231. DrBeauGan

    JC
    #2583770, posted on December 13, 2017 at 4:36 pm
    Doc

    Try the US Money Centre banks. It’s been a one street since Trump day and doesn’t appear to be stopping. Forget gamer money bullshit.

    Buy banks wear diamonds. It’s also very gentlemanly in that you don’t need exert yourself.

    I’m going wild, JC. I just bought a couple of million USD. It’s still pretend money, so not very wild, but I think of it as infotainment.

    I am not big on diamonds. Banks, maybe. I like the thought of owning Wells Fargo. Maybe they’d let me ride the pony express.

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