Wednesday Forum: December 20, 2017

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  1. Crossie

    Luke
    #2590664, posted on December 21, 2017 at 10:44 pm
    For the first time I can remember the majority of middle-of-the-road people I know are openly talking about whether to believe the police.

    That’s stunning. I can’t recall that happening in Australia before. The rusted on lefties have suddenly become the biggest police trusters in the land and of course righties are sceptical but the normal apolitical folk I know are openly questioning if they should trust the word of their own law enforcement officials.

    Last time I saw anything like that level of instinctive distruat it was in Mexico.

    Funny you should say that Luke. Many years ago we visited my cousins in Melbourne and were introduced to their friends as gringo cousins. It had to be explained to me that NSW is Australian version of US and Victoria is south of the border, ie Mexico.

  2. Baldrick

    Rae
    #2590658, posted on December 21, 2017 at 10:40 pm
    Less criticism of the signing lady please.

    Remember, this is from a guy that stalked one of the Kitteh’s on this blog and posted street names in her locality and threatened to visit her, but do carry on Septimus for your concern about the signing lady.
    Now fuck off.

  3. Nick

    How many pedestrians did Vicpol arrest and charge ? You just know they did.

  4. Yeah IT that seems about it.

    Or rather that’s a fair transcription of the comments on the ABC Facebook page.

  5. nemkat

    Kudos, Inspector Infidel Tiger.
    Once again, you have solved the case.

  6. Makka

    and dragged him on to the street he was only saved when Australia’s finest police force beat them away and whisked him to safety.

    But, let’s be fair…..

  7. min

    Psychopath is a personality disorder just as Narcissism is , which is hardly a mental illness . Seeing as there are many narcisstic politicians how would you class them mad,bad or sad ?

  8. entropy

    I hate that hand gesture crap. It’s virtue signalling at best, needlessly distracting to the 99.9% of the population that aren’t death or perfectly able to read the teletext.

  9. Infidel Tiger

    The signers are ridiculous. The blind can’t even see them.

  10. Stimpson J. Cat

    Those facial expressions and head and body movements may look strange but they are important in communicating with the deaf.

    What the f$ck would you know about normal human behaviour Grigs?
    Stick to nursing sharks.

  11. Steve trickler.

    Infidel Tiger
    #2590652, posted on December 21, 2017 at 10:35 pm

    Why will hundreds of officers be on patrol?

    You told us it was just one guy with a few troubles at home.

    Are you fucking lying?


    Spot on.

    And probably never to be asked from a mainstream journalist. Useless clowns.

  12. JC

    I hate that hand gesture crap. It’s virtue signalling at best, needlessly distracting to the 99.9% of the population that aren’t death or perfectly able to read the teletext.

    It’s ridiculous looking at someone having hand /arm spasms while some other person is talking.

  13. JC

    Was it the Hunchback with the hand/arm spasmer beside him?

  14. Kudos, Inspector Infidel Tiger.
    Once again, you have solved the case.

    It is amazing how often these complex cases involving intricate forensic evidence and extensive investigation by experienced professionals can be instantly solved by bilious dudes sitting on their arses in front of computer screens in the dark.

  15. Infidel Tiger

    Thanks Monts. I’m a hot take specialist.

  16. egg_

    ABC just getting weird now

    Just. Wow.
    Victoria Police are blaming the pedestrians.

    VicPol has gone full cucktard.
    Never go full cucktard.

  17. The news media have been hopeless in explaining the horrible tragedy in Melbourne.
    Limited footage on mind numbing loop on every TV station.
    Interviews with non-eye witnesses.
    No explanations about the dragging of the driver out of the car – who did it, was a rifle involved?
    Rambling monologues from street reporters saying very little over and over again.
    Faulty information not corrected for hours – first there was a driver and a passenger, then just a driver.

    Filling the airwaves with repetitive rubbish is not going to generate more viewers.

  18. Stimpson J. Cat

    It’s ridiculous looking at someone having hand /arm spasms while some other person is talking.

    It’s much worse when Italians do it.
    So f$cking annoying.

  19. JC, you are nine days away from owing me a steak dinner. No news of RBG being in anything other than the rudest of health.

  20. JC

    It is amazing how often these complex cases involving intricate forensic evidence and extensive investigation by experienced professionals

    Of course. It’s never happened before in the history of the western world. Muslim drives truck plowing into dozens of people screaming Alan’s snackbar. No pattern recognition at all. We need CSI.

  21. Andreas

    It is amazing how often these complex cases involving intricate forensic evidence and extensive investigation by experienced professionals can be instantly solved by bilious dudes sitting on their arses in front of computer screens in the dark.

    We don’t need any Wussia updates, thanks.

  22. Empire GTHO Phase III

    C.L.
    #2590587, posted on December 21, 2017 at 9:57 pm
    Melbourne policewoman brings order and calm to the situation.

    I was at the scene within 20 minutes of the crime. I can’t comment of the crime because I couldn’t get closer than 80 metres from where it happened.

    What I can report is that the mob was angry, agitated and baying for blood. The coppers were barely in control.

    I’ve done my time over the years intentionally getting in the thick of it at, including many of the big stories where public order was compromised.

    This afternoon was th first time I’v witnessed the cops being periously close to losing control.

    The punters are at their wits end. Welcome to leftism.

  23. JC

    JC, you are nine days away from owing me a steak dinner. No news of RBG being in anything other than the rudest of health.

    Nine days is a long time in ghoul pools , especially when the ghoulie has pancreatic cancer. We’ll see. Nail biting until the ball falls in Time Square.
    AND we’re using New York time too.

  24. egg_

    It is amazing how often these complex cases involving intricate forensic evidence and extensive investigation by experienced professionals can be instantly solved by bilious dudes sitting on their arses in front of computer screens in the dark.

    M0nster’s projecting again – I hope he has his pants/skirt on.

  25. Jo Smyth

    It’s official. There is no such thing now as murder or terrorism. It’s all due to mental illness. How do some people become mentally ill. Could it be years of drugs, indoctrination, radicalisation with the intention of completely messing up your brain so you can blame others for all your actions. It’s all in the plan.

  26. Infidel Tiger

    JC, you are nine days away from owing me a steak dinner. No news of RBG being in anything other than the rudest of health.

    Yes, she has survived longer with pancreatic cancer than anyone in human history and doesn’t seem at all discomforted by it, despite it being one of the most painful and debilitating cancers imaginable.

    One might almost think the prune faced harridan was a lying and despicable bitch.

  27. JC

    M0nster’s projecting again – I hope he has his pants/skirt on.

    Of course he does. All Lezzos do.

  28. John Constantine

    In yarragrad, it is now a criminal offence to watch a car doing burnouts.

    So the fine is in the mail, proles.

    Bigger than the bill for the bullet that the chicom mail out.

  29. Nine days is a long time in ghoul pools , especially when the ghoulie has pancreatic cancer. We’ll see. Nail biting until the ball falls in Time Square.
    AND we’re using New York time too.

    Grossi Florentino, like I said. All bets are off if your side pay to have her killed.

  30. JC

    One might almost think the prune faced harridan was a lying and despicable bitch.

    And they say only the good die young. Total myth.

  31. Viva

    The news media have been hopeless

    No challenging questions at the press conference
    Paul Murray parrots the police line saying emphatically “There is no link to terrorism ” not ” the police claim there is no link. It only happened five minutes ago …..

  32. entropy

    0nty
    #2590682, posted on December 21, 2017 at 10:57 pm
    Kudos, Inspector Infidel Tiger.
    Once again, you have solved the case.

    It is amazing how often these complex cases involving intricate forensic evidence and extensive investigation by experienced professionals can be instantly solved by bilious dudes sitting on their arses in front of computer screens in the dark.

    The irony.

  33. Infidel Tiger

    Paul Murray is the worst.

  34. Arky

    I can fix this.
    All vehicles by ADRs to have an image of Mohommad on the driver’s seat.

  35. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    There is only so much that can be conveyed by hand gestures.

    That’s why alphabets and writing were invented.
    The deaf should just turn on the sub-titles.

  36. Empire GTHO Phase III

    JC, you are nine days away from owing me a steak dinner. No news of RBG being in anything other than the rudest of health

    If you guys changed the contract, so be it.

    The original wager was RBG would outlive the Trump Presidency.

  37. JC

    Grossi Florentino, like I said. All bets are off if your side pay to have her killed.

    Lets agree, we’re not going upstairs. I wouldn’t be munching on my steak just yet monst. Nine days is a long time in pancreatic cancer time.

  38. feelthebern

    Imagine what VicPol will put together the day Pell’s trial ends in a mis-trial.

  39. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Paul Murray is the worst.

    He has an eye on his job. He has to be circumspect in what he says about police information.

  40. Snoopy

    It is amazing how often these complex cases involving intricate forensic evidence and extensive investigation by experienced professionals can be instantly solved by bilious dudes sitting on their arses in front of computer screens in the dark.

    The truth is commonly simpler. It avoids one getting tangled up in the ‘mentally ill drug addicted lone wolf coward’ loop.

  41. The original wager was RBG would outlive the Trump Presidency.

    No, it was the calendar year. Stop lying, Empire.

  42. Howard Hill

    When was the last time a white privileged, retarded, male on ice ran over 20 people. Anyone remember?

  43. notafan

    Monty are you really suggesting that a man ploughing a car into a crowd of pedestrians with hundreds of witnesses is a ‘complex case involving intricate forensic evidence and extensive investigation’?

    It’s a case for inspector montyalbano!

    Call in NCIS Las Vegas, Miami and New York.

    Lol

    You are simply a word salad spinning loon.

  44. Lets agree, we’re not going upstairs.

    Why the hell not? Are you crying poor?

  45. Crossie

    This afternoon was th first time I’v witnessed the cops being periously close to losing control.

    The punters are at their wits end. Welcome to leftism.

    This is actually a good sign that almost all the people are onto them. A correction of course must come eventually and I am hoping it will be sooner rather than later. The only other option is a breakdown of civil order.

  46. JC

    Why the hell not? Are you crying poor?

    No, it’s really boring up there.

  47. Monty are you really suggesting that a man ploughing a car into a crowd of pedestrians with hundreds of witnesses is a ‘complex case involving intricate forensic evidence and extensive investigation’?

    No, but it’s also not simple to the level of the usual Cat reaction of “ah it was Muslim terrorists, round them all up and deport them” either.

  48. Rae

    Teletext was canned more than a few years ago. Sub-titles are painful to watch as they are always well behind what the speaker is saying and half the time the wording is not correct.

  49. No, it’s really boring up there.

    Hmm, well I’d need to see it to confirm, I suspect you’re just being a cheapskate.

  50. Nowhere do I see a denial that the Afghan driver is Muslim.
    Incident occurs at 4.42pm. Very quick gathering of information.
    Known to police? Yes.
    Previous driving offences? Yes.
    Drug issues? Yes.
    Mental issues? Yes.
    Driving a family member’s car? Yes, we know that too.
    Is he a Muslim? um, err, ……deathly silence from press and police. Oh – he’s not a known terrorist.

  51. notafan

    jC

    I’ve heard she really is dead but they’ve put up a body double just so as you have to feed Monty.

  52. JC

    This Scottish gal does a decent version of Dancing in the dark with a full orchestra.
    Not bad and she’s not a bad looker too.

  53. egg_

    Hard to take this press conference seriously with the signer making up shit to the right of Dan Andrews.

    What’s the hand sign for hunchback?

  54. Arky

    As I said this afternoon, short shorts are back in.
    So in a time and place, a beautiful summer day in the city, blue sky, Christmas a few days away, families and smiling excited kids, ladies with long legs, boats on the Yarra, elm trees and shady grass, and surounded by all the possibilities the world can offer.
    Some putrid arsehole does this.
    Incomprehensible.

  55. JC

    I’ve heard she really is dead but they’ve put up a body double just so as you have to feed Monty.

    As God is my judge, I wouldn’t put it past the D’rats, Fan. I wouldn’t put it past them to go to court and argue that although the cadaver may not be speaking etc, it would be sexist to remove her from the bench.

  56. BrettW

    John Constantine mentioned this earlier. Another example of the insanity that is happening to Australia due to power bills.

    A close relative has a very well paid job here. No surprise though as their previous gas contracts coming to an end and a massive increase coming.

    Incitec says the plant supports 1500 direct and indirect jobs in Brisbane, about 400 of which are direct employees.

    INCITEC Pivot Limited may shut its Gibson Island fertiliser plant in Brisbane next September if the company cannot secure adequately priced gas.

    IPL chairman Paul Brasher told today’s annual general meeting the fertiliser company had been trying to find an economically viable gas supply for several years to feed into the plant beyond September next year when the current supply arrangement ceased but no solution had been found.

    “If we are unable to find a solution, it is likely the facility will close,” Mr Brasher told shareholders attending the meeting.

    The Gibson Island fertiliser plant produces about 550,000 tonnes of urea each year.

    IPL subsidiary Dyno Nobel Asia Pacific runs a liquid carbon dioxide plant on Gibson Island, which supplies half of Queensland’s carbon dioxide needs.

    IPL has long argued for more domestic gas supply to keep energy prices from rising.

  57. Snoopy

    Accelerating a car through a mob of pedestrians in broad daylight is not terrorism but running over a man lying in the middle of a poorly lit laneway late at night is.

    Weird hey?

  58. Stimpson J. Cat

    Sub-titles are painful to watch as they are always well behind what the speaker is saying and half the time the wording is not correct.

    Boo f$cking hoo.
    They should just be thankful they aren’t blind and STFU.

  59. notafan

    Oh really a few days before Christmas a Muslim ploughs into pedestriams at one of the busiest intersections in the CBD ( after ISIS has called for terror attacks) and similar incidents last year in Europe and you’re all don’t jump to conclusions.

    I suppose there were fag posters plastered every where too.

    Incidentally no-one has forgotten that you are a lying liar who bald face lies if you think there’s the slightest chance you’ll get away with it.

  60. Stimpson J. Cat

    This Scottish gal does a decent version of Dancing in the dark with a full orchestra.

    Who are you Swanny?
    Stop linking Goddamn Springsteen.

  61. egg_

    Sub-titles are painful to watch as they are always well behind what the speaker is saying and half the time the wording is not correct.

    Crap.
    Plus it’s only a News conference, not Shakespeare.

  62. C.L.

    What I can report is that the mob was angry, agitated and baying for blood. The coppers were barely in control.

    Yes, if you listen carefully the screechy female policeman was hysterical because the bloke on the right was obviously threatening to bash the “dog” who’d run over 19 people.

    The Australian Deep State has a consensus position on all these issues: protect multiculturalism and diversity at all costs, deny terrorism (like the bombing of the ACL in Canberra) and blame mental health, the victims (who police are also free to shoot) and racism.

  63. C.L.

    Inspector Monty “Follow The Evidence” Poirot quickly concluded that the Russian urination dossier was genuine and Trump’s presidency over.

  64. Infidel Tiger

    Accelerating a car through a mob of pedestrians in broad daylight is not terrorism but running over a man lying in the middle of a poorly lit laneway late at night is.

    Taking 19 hostages and demanding an ISIS flag isn’t even terrosim

    Giving some fat moll in a niqab the stink eye sure as shit is though.

  65. Stimpson J. Cat

    I foresee a future not too far away where unless you are ethnic you will be unable to diagnosed with mental illness.
    Instead white people will be diagnosed with white privilege disorder, a condition with no cure, and forced to pay for ethnics and their own treatment.

  66. C.L.

    It’s official: Trump the greatest employment president for blacks in US history …

    Black Unemployment Is Nearing An All Time Low.

  67. Up The Workers!

    Dodgy Dan the Crims’ Party man reckons he has ‘no intelligence’ that there is any link at all to terrorism, and all of his comical band of performing ‘Noddies’ behind him from the A.L.P. (Allah’s Local Party) evidently agree with him.

    In fact Dodgy Dan is inevitably so low on intelligence that the aggregate intelligence quotient of a roomful of people, generally plummets whenever he walks in.

    Dodgy Dan and the A.L.P. are believed to have spoken to a number of credible ‘Get-Up’ activists and A.L.P.B.C. staff who are prepared to swear that they saw Cardinal George Pell driving the car that did the deed and Tony Abbott was his navigator!

  68. twostix

    The british police and their eternal butt boys in the colonial Victoria police establishment officially decided that muslim terror and any form of “extremism” such as merely not liking Muslim lunatics, is to be defined as Mental Illness(tm) about two years ago.

    They have policy documents all over the place about this stuff.

  69. Crossie

    Nowhere do I see a denial that the Afghan driver is Muslim.
    Incident occurs at 4.42pm. Very quick gathering of information.
    Known to police? Yes.
    Previous driving offences? Yes.
    Drug issues? Yes.
    Mental issues? Yes.
    Driving a family member’s car? Yes, we know that too.
    Is he a Muslim? um, err, ……deathly silence from press and police. Oh – he’s not a known terrorist.

    And still no names of either of the arrested men. Could it be because then other people will be able to dispute the official narrative?

  70. Knuckle Dragger

    This is beyond sad. And stupid.

    The terrorist’s handbook – sent out and advertised by terrorists themselves – pushed for attacks of just this type all over the world, to wit:

    1. Obtain vehicle;
    2. Run over as many people as you can;
    3. Obtain edged weapons;
    4. Kill as many people as you can;
    5. Die for Allah;
    6. Have the whole lot filmed for posting on terrorism websites.

    This is not difficult. It’s been played out all over the world, and all the circumstances were in place here.

    And yet – the top brass and pollies say the motivation is unknown, thereby immediately putting tens of thousands of people off side. And then rub a bit of salt in by saying although it’s not terrorism hundreds more cops will be in the CBD in coming days (all on overtime mind you).

    Contrary to their apparent belief, the general public is NOT stupid and will not take kindly to being treated like sheep. A better line to run at the pressers, given the circumstances would be:

    ‘This incident bears all the hallmarks of a terrorist attack. Given the current global climate, we will be treating it as such but will continue an exhaustive investigation to determine the definitive motives behind the attack, as well as any involvement by persons other than the vehicle’s occupants. Additional police will be in the CBD over the next several days as a precaution only, and dependent on the investigation’s initial findings.’

    Simple and realistic. Stop treating the public like idiots and you might go a little ways towards earning their trust back.

  71. twostix

    Lol at m0nty whistling past the graveyard.

  72. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Lizzie- sorry about trying to peg your festivities-

    Nix probemo, Dave. We clarity-deficient and over-wordy left-wing intellectuals, no doubt soon to be pinged for our tendency towards hyphenated excess, definitely need taking down a peg or two. 😀

    Perhaps I should hyphenate my name, just to be extra annoying. Mrs. Hairy Bear-Ape. You rang?

  73. entropy

    Sub-titles are painful to watch as they are always well behind what the speaker is saying and half the time the wording is not correct.

    I’m calling bullshit. Subtitles would be more timely and correct than signing.

  74. Infidel Tiger

    Can’t wait for the court case. The state will never put him on the stand in case he gives the game away.

  75. Crossie

    Taking 19 hostages and demanding an ISIS flag isn’t even terrosim

    Coincidentally 19 injured today. That must be the Australian unlucky terrorism number.

  76. H B Bear

    I miss the good old days of Vicpol, Australia’s most politicised police force, when they would simply clock off and go for a pub dinner rather than hold press conferences and lie to you.

  77. Steve trickler.

    If you didn’t have these visuals to accompany the sound. You’d be asking a fairly obvious question.

    What is this convoluted sound?

    Add the visuals, and you’ll never look at a record player the way you know it, ever again.



  78. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Simple and realistic. Stop treating the public like idiots and you might go a little ways towards earning their trust back.

    Tonight’s presser was truly the nadir. They are a laughing stock of ineptitude and timidity.

  79. C.L.

    As far as Las Vegas goes, I just assume that bloke was CIA.
    He reeks of CIA.

  80. Empire GTHO Phase III

    No, it was the calendar year. Stop lying, Empire.

    People who live in arseholes shouldn’t throw stones, lardarse.

  81. Empire GTHO Phase III

    As far as Las Vegas goes, I just assume that bloke was CIA.
    He reeks of CIA.

    CIA contractor. Plausible deniability.

  82. Crossie

    Simple and realistic. Stop treating the public like idiots and you might go a little ways towards earning their trust back.

    It’s not going to happen, they would rather see us dead.

  83. twostix

    What we do know is one thing: Australia and the christian nations were *nothing* until 1990 when we let effeminate poof looking afghani boy-men in.

    Without them we would go back to being the nothings that we were until then.

  84. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Sub-titles are painful to watch as they are always well behind what the speaker is saying and half the time the wording is not correct.

    My heart bleeds. People put up with them in airports and other noisy busy places.

  85. Its remarkable

    how come the deaf need a signaler for these events, yet not for normal TV shows, where captions are freely available. Can they not read the captions when some major event is occurring that needs the politicians to virtue signal. Fabrication if you ask me.

  86. Leigh Lowe

    I miss the good old days of Vicpol, Australia’s most politicised police force, when they would simply clock off and go for a pub dinner rather than hold press conferences and lie to you.

    The bit I liked most about 1980’s coppers in Victoria is that they found a way to sort crooks out.
    And some of them invented Psy Ops.
    Spread the word.
    Encourage the target to go to a “safe place”, like, maybe Bendigo or a backstreet flat in North Carlton.
    Knock, knock.
    Who’s there?
    Blam, blam, blam.
    It’s us, Cockheads.
    Bye, bye, Jed.
    Bye, bye, Gary.

  87. Fisky

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  88. Makka

    Trump is a machine. He just keeps grinding up leftists with those tweets. Relentless.

  89. It is hilarious that now the Republicans are cheerleading for a wage explosion.

  90. Knuckle Dragger

    I have no doubt whatsoever that the rank and file within VicPol, if given their head, would be spending the evening commandeering bulldozers and flattening entire suburbs to eradicate this, er, problem. If you gave the task to detectives, by dawn the Yarra wouldn’t exist because it would be full of religious nutters’ houses along with those of their family and other associates.

    It’s the doublespeak by the top level that irritates me. We saw the same with the pressers relating to the St. Kilda beach fracas and the Werribee disgrace. I know and have worked with both the inspectors involved, and can personally attest that they are both very good value in a tight spot. It’s the language they are mandated to use – unless they want to become the Inspector in charge of Cann River, the line will be subject to the toe.

    This way of speaking isn’t even what’s taught at ‘media training’. I’m buggered if I know where it came from but it’s not helpful. I can, however, see the Chief and the Premier backstage from the presser after the cameras stopped:

    ‘Believable, do you think?’
    ‘Yeah, for sure. That’ll hold them until we think of something else.’

  91. Empire GTHO Phase III

    Sub-titles are painful to watch as they are always well behind what the speaker is saying and half the time the wording is not correct.

    First World problem.

    Basic communication, the kind that prevents strangers killing each other, demands no nuance and transcends distraction.

    I can live with Marcel Marceau if deaf dudes get the drift.

  92. Infidel Tiger

    The old cops were more bent than a dog’s hind leg but they did the job.

    The new breed of copper is like a half breed of a parking inspector and a first year socialist alliance uni student.

  93. cohenite

    Adam Bandt 🏳️‍🌈
    ✔ @AdamBandt

    Everyone in Melbourne would have crossed that intersection at one time or another. As we think about everyone hurt and in hospital, their families and their loved ones, let’s not close up with fear but open up with love.

    8:48 PM – Dec 21, 2017

    Goodnight all. Make your plans with love.

  94. Up The Workers!

    I wonder whether Dodgy Dan’s Village Idiot Victoriastan Misgovernment will be sending the bill for the investigation and Police overtime, to the victims once again, like they did to the victims of the A.L.P./Get-Up racists, Nazi-like thugs and bash-artists who bashed the people who turned up to the Milo Yiannopoulos talk?

    Allah’s Local Party HAVE to look after all those poor, victimised “lone wolves” with their individual “mental problems”, because they just happen to control 6 New South Obeid A.L.P. Federal seats.

  95. Infidel Tiger

    It is hilarious that now the Republicans are cheerleading for a wage explosion.

    Your knowledge of economics is poorer than your diet.

  96. zyconoclast

    Interesting at: michaelsmithnews.com

    Gallup global survey – “Would you fight for your country?” Australia ranked very, very poorly.

    By country

    By religion

  97. Siltstone

    RE: Season’s Greetings To All Our Alumni And Friends
    I received the above message from a university I graduated from.

    I replied:
    Alumni Office
    can you explain further what you mean by “Season’s Greetings”? In the northern hemisphere it is winter, in the southern hemisphere is it summer. So is your “Season’s Greetings” related to winter or to summer? Or is it related to both? If it is both seasons, can I expect to receive an email in late June next year from you wishing me “Season’s Greetings” again? Or is there something else going on that you can’t quite bring yourself to tell me?
    Yours truly,
    An Alumni

  98. Empire GTHO Phase III

    Can’t wait for the court case. The state will never put him on the stand in case he gives the game away.

    It wouldn’t be the first time in this country, but we’re not allowed to talk about that.

  99. Crossie

    It is hilarious that now the Republicans are cheerleading for a wage explosion.

    What have you got against a pay rise?

    After eight years of flat wages wouldn’t you think the American workers were due for a bonus?

  100. Infidel Tiger

    Same with Gargasoulas. He was openly talking about converting to Islam on social media amongst a lot of other weird shit… and then he goes on a rampage after trying to murder his brother for being a fag.

    Can’t wait to hear his testimony, but we won’t get to.

  101. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Interesting at: michaelsmithnews.com

    Gallup global survey – “Would you fight for your country?” Australia ranked very, very poorly.

    Numbers Bob is on that site, honking on about how young Australians had to be conscripted to fight for the Liberal/Country Party between 1964 and 1972. That’s the first I knew that there were no regulars serving during that time.

  102. Combine Dave

    zyconoclast
    #2590772, posted on December 22, 2017 at 12:04 am
    Interesting at: michaelsmithnews.com

    Gallup global survey – “Would you fight for your country?” Australia ranked very, very poorly.

    Why would anyone expect a nation made up of immigrants and dual citizens to fight rather than flee?

    And why would any Aussie fight to preserve such a state?

  103. Empire GTHO Phase III

    It’s the language they are mandated to use – unless they want to become the Inspector in charge of Cann River, the line will be subject to the toe.

    If one knows how to hunt, fish and cultivate, there are worse places than Cann River.

    It’s a river I’d cry me. Just sayin’.

  104. zyconoclast

    Why would anyone expect a nation made up of immigrants and dual citizens to fight rather than flee?

    And why would any Aussie fight to preserve such a state?

    No one would expect it.
    No one would fight.

    Planned and executed to perfection.

  105. Leigh Lowe

    Adam Bandt 🏳️‍🌈
    ✔ @AdamBandt

    Everyone in Melbourne would have crossed that intersection at one time or another. As we think about everyone hurt and in hospital, their families and their loved ones, let’s not close up with fear but open up with M-16s.

  106. Combine Dave

    Infidel Tiger
    #2590770, posted on December 22, 2017 at 12:02 am
    It is hilarious that now the Republicans are cheerleading for a wage explosion.

    Your knowledge of economics is poorer than your diet.

    Wonderful if true.

    A huge wage increase would provide extra drive to America’s increasing automation of manufacturing, services etc and completely negate the need for mass unskilled immigration from the Middle East and/or Mexico.

  107. What have you got against a pay rise?

    Nothing, but it’s funny to see the GOP all gung ho about wage rises after they spent decades suppressing them as communist subversion. The disinguenousness is so brazen.

    Hint: nobody in the Republican Party actually wants pay rises for anybody but the rich.

  108. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Dave – re the issue of fake Christmas trees vs real ones. We’ve alternated lately. Hairy’s family tradition is the full fir, whereas my family was firmly fake except when even that was unaffordable and Big Sis and I would cut down a small Casuarina from the creek. Last year we were off to Canada and bought one of those fake ones with the fibre optic ends that change colour, just for the pre-Christmas family drinks before we took off. It stopped working in the first week, electrical system kaput, so I went looking for a non-fake tree again this year. But I’d left it too late due to the cruise. Only thing available was nearly three metres high and very ungainly. I consulted Da Hairy Ape about him chain-sawing it into perfection but he said he was busy and to just get an artificial one this year. So I bought a very fine snowy specimen from that prestige home wear shop and spent the day slotting the braches into place and shaping them out, and then decorating it with my junior elves to assist. To be honest, I was pleased, because it is far less messy, easier to erect and dismantle, and with the new set of quality (not cheapo) lights I can see it lasting for quite a few years to come. It looks great too.

    Perhaps we have finally made the shift. Next Christmas I want to go again to somewhere with snow.
    Real snow. And get on those snowshoes again, and do sleigh rides, and smell a million pine trees not just one. All the many trees inside the Fairmont Banff were artificial, and they looked great too.

  109. twostix

    The motives for the montyesque bugman class importing our civilisation’s millenia old enemy are many, but in Melbourne and London the genesis of the idea to isn’t that hard to determine.

    In the hierarchy of men the puffy faced estrogen laden “males” of the insect establishment classes are at the bottom, both nationally and historically. They are worthless and in themselves they feel constantly patronised and protected, when they see normal men.

    So to make themselves feel better they import a bunch of retards, dump them in the suburbs of the working man and then feel a little less worthless, because it is now they who are doing the patronising and for the first time in their lives, they feel like they are doing the protecting. Protecting their retard man-pets.

  110. JC

    Monster, you fat lesbian.

    The GOP is against legislated wage rises, not wage growth. Wage growth means higher living standards.

  111. Leigh Lowe

    Can’t wait for the court case. The state will never put him on the stand in case he gives the game away.

    900 witnesses, marching along.
    This one won’t get to court until Paris mayor Mohamed el BomBelt opens the Olympics in 2024.

  112. twostix

    Nothing, but it’s funny to see the GOP all gung ho about wage rises after they spent decades suppressing them as communist subversion. The disinguenousness is so brazen.

    Hint: nobody in the Republican Party actually wants pay rises for anybody but the rich.

    “What time is this? Where am I?? Voodoo ecomomics!! Be like the Huffington Post told me you were like 50 years ago Reputhuglicans!1!1!!”.

    You’re constantly baffled about this age because you’re an anachronism (and dull witted) m0nty.

  113. Infidel Tiger

    Gallup global survey – “Would you fight for your country?” Australia ranked very, very poorly.

    Depends. When the civil war comes I’ll have no problem taking out half my fellow citizens.

  114. JC

    Hint: nobody in the Republican Party actually wants pay rises for anybody but the rich.

    Oh yea, the GOP hates economic growth (equals income growth). Hate it. You have no fucking idea.

  115. JC, Trump is about to sign a tax bill that lowers living standards for all but the super-rich. Republicans don’t care about the little people.

    Note that all of the companies that announced wage rises and the like are reliant on government regulation and contracts to survive. Rent seeking is out of control under Trump.

  116. twostix

    Trump could retire today and he’s achieved more than Obama did in eight years.

    And it would take thirty years for the left to undo everything he’s done too.

  117. Fisky

    JC, Trump is about to sign a tax bill that lowers living standards for all but the super-rich.

    Pahahahahahahaha!

  118. Infidel Tiger

    Nothing, but it’s funny to see the GOP all gung ho about wage rises after they spent decades suppressing them as communist subversion. The disinguenousness is so brazen.

    Listen up dildo. The Republicans have been talking about tax cuts since Reagan was being forced out of his dad’s ball bag. The best pay rise we can give everyone is a tax cut.

  119. Fisky

    So to make themselves feel better they import a bunch of retards, dump them in the suburbs of the working man and then feel a little less worthless, because it is now they who are doing the patronising and for the first time in their lives, they feel like they are doing the protecting. Protecting their retard man-pets.

    It’s also based on a desire to get cosmic revenge against their high school bully.

  120. Infidel Tiger

    When the tax cuts lead to greater government revenue, make no mistake Monster and the left are going to go nuts about that too.

  121. twostix

    Boy nobody sure is talking about the rape culture that was found in the left’s highest institutions five minutes ago.

    How did that happen?

  122. Leigh Lowe

    Gallup global survey – “Would you fight for your country?” Australia ranked very, very poorly.

    I am not sure I would take up arms to defend where we are going.

  123. Makka

    It is hilarious that now the Republicans are cheerleading for a wage explosion.

    Lol, 70% of US GDP derives from consumer spending and mUnty wants to see impoverished consumers. 4% GDP will be like a speed bump.

    Trump second term guaranteed mUnty.

  124. Knuckle Dragger

    Agreed, Empire. Cann River’s a nice bit of dirt. The only downside to working there is you’ll never get to put ‘I did a presser with the Premier’ on your CV.

  125. When the tax cuts lead to greater government revenue, make no mistake Monster and the left are going to go nuts about that too.

    Mmyes IT, just like in Kansas.

  126. Fisky

    It’s quite funny to see self-styled Keynesians claiming that tax cuts REDUCE income! What is wrong with these people???

  127. Infidel Tiger

    Trump second term guaranteed mUnty.

    Nope. He will not get a second term until he turns off the immigration spigot.

    That will be his greatest challenge. He will have both parties and houses fighting him tooth and nail.

  128. Infidel Tiger

    We’re not in Kansas anymore Dorothy.

  129. Leigh Lowe

    Trump could retire today and he’s achieved more than Obama did in eight years.

    Fuck retirement.
    One last mission.
    Outlast Bader-Ginsburg, piss on her grave and appoint a 37 year old black letter lawyer to her spot.

  130. We’re not in Kansas anymore Dorothy.

    Ryan is running Brownback’s utterly failed policies at federal level. They will fail again.

  131. Dave in Marybrook

    Don’t know if I can dig that Dancing in the Dark cover, JC- I think the orchestra went full Disney. Never go full Disney.
    She did have an Aussie-made Maton guitar though. And a great smokey voice.

  132. Fisky

    Ryan is running Brownback’s utterly failed policies at federal level. They will fail again.

    Oh my god. What kind of Keynesian doesn’t know the difference between a national currency issuer and a local authority???? Terrible!!

  133. Infidel Tiger

    Dont worry Monty. Any day hillary will be sworn in.

    This was just a bad dream.

  134. Leigh Lowe

    Hard to explain the benefits of tax cuts to someone who earns $8,387 p.a. running fantasy football and unread journalism.

  135. Fisky

    Hopefully Trump will wait for all the geriatric liberal SCOTUS judges to drop off the perch, and replace them with 30-something year old pepe trolls who will vote for any old garbage. You don’t need an intellectual Supreme Court, just good people who will follow orders!

  136. Up The Workers!

    No wonder Ken Lay, Victoria’s last well-respected Chief Commissioner of Police, and his Deputy both resigned their posts rather than irreparably soil their enviable, well-earned reputations as senior Police Officers by working for the disgraceful Dodgy Dan and the cretinous C.F.M.E.U. Misgovernment.

    I note that the current Chief Commissioner is off on stress leave, so Labor’s ‘Ashton’s Circus’ is currently without its normal Ringmaster.

    Labor’s favourite ‘lone wolves’ have now done this not once, but twice in a single year – and in almost the very same location – and yet all Labor can think of is vilifying George Pell because he is a Christian, as was former Anglican Archbishop and Governor-General Peter Hollingworth, whose career was similarly trashed by the same vile band. I don’t recall either of them murdering innocent citizens on city streets as has now been done twice in 12 months in Melbourne.

    Labor must think that all these ‘lone wolf’ events will somehow bring them in plenty of votes from like-minded ‘lone wolves’, because they are still backing the same violent horse, and while they bend over backwards to ensure that there are zero consequences for these atrocities, the atrocities will keep happening under A.L.P. Misgovernments, again and again and again.

    Those who are too stupid to learn from their mistakes, are condemned to repeat them.

  137. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Depends. When the civil war comes I’ll have no problem taking out half my fellow citizens.

    I’d volunteer for the firing party that shot the fvcking Greens at dawn, and I’d go on to eat a hearty breakfast, with all enjoyment.

  138. Infidel Tiger

    Hopefully Trump will wait for all the geriatric liberal SCOTUS judges to drop off the perch, and replace them with 30-something year old pepe trolls who will vote for any old garbage. You don’t need an intellectual Supreme Court, just good people who will follow orders!

    They need to make Clarence Thomas a zombie.

  139. Empire GTHO Phase III

    Hint: nobody in the Republican Party actually wants pay rises for anybody but the rich.

    Like all tract grade propaganda, there is a modicum of truth in there.

    Congessional GOPe, the of number which is indeterminable but might be a majority, supports policy which targets this aim.

    Regardless, the tax bill clearly does not target this aim and was passed by Congress.

    At some point you need to either fix your brain or declare “I am a loser!”.

    You’ve burned all of your potentially dignified concessions.

    We’re in the bunker in Berlin. You need to be realistic about your options.

  140. Makka

    Nope. He will not get a second term until he turns off the immigration spigot.

    You were shitting yourself that he got a first term so I guess your opinion counts for fk all.

  141. Oh my god. What kind of Keynesian doesn’t know the difference between a national currency issuer and a local authority???? Terrible!!

    Hahaha Fisky, now you’re running a market monetarist line! You’re as bad as Dot. Deficits don’t matter these days to the right, do they? Because they are in power.

  142. Leigh Lowe

    No Fisky.
    When I say “black letter lawyers” I mean those who enforce the law and, when the law is vague, take the Constitution as it is written.
    The only SCOTUS judges “taking orders” are those tearing up the Constitution to pander to lefty trends

  143. Infidel Tiger

    You were shitting yourself that he got a first term so I guess your opinion counts for fk all.

    Calm down old timer. Just because I didn’t suck him off balls and all with three fingers in my date like you did, is no reason to discount my erudite opinions.

  144. Fisky

    Hahaha Fisky, now you’re running a market monetarist line! You’re as bad as Dot. Deficits don’t matter these days to the right, do they? Because they are in power.

    No one gives a shit about deficits. No one.

  145. Empire GTHO Phase III

    I’m not saying you should bite down hard on the capsule, but maybe, just maybe, there is a fate worse than a fate worse than death?

  146. Fisky

    Let’s go back to m0nster.

    M0nster – who did a better job on the economy, Ronald Reagan or Julia Gillard? GO!!!

  147. Leigh Lowe

    They need to make Clarence Thomas a zombie.

    Clarence.
    Jesus, what a master-class in taking lefties to the cleaners and fucking over nit-picking affirmation hearings.
    You could hear the air going out of their tyres when he called the affirmation hearing … what was it again … “a high-tech lynching for uppity blacks”
    Wassat boy?
    You gone awful quiet

  148. No one gives a shit about deficits. No one.

    Eight years of “but Obama is turning America into the Weimar!” And now it’s all “party like it’s 1929 wheee!”

  149. Empire GTHO Phase III

    Hahaha Fisky, now you’re running a market monetarist line! You’re as bad as Dot. Deficits don’t matter these days to the right, do they? Because they are in power.

    No one gives a shit about deficits. No one.

    Sad, but true.

    Western governments have demonstrated they can spend and inflate without their member being strung from lamp posts -‘for now.

    Trump’s first term is predicated on ignoring the deficit. Just like his predecessor.

  150. Makka

    Calm down old timer. Just because I didn’t suck him off balls and all with three fingers in my date like you did, is no reason to discount my erudite opinions.

    Lol. Wouldn’t you be an asset in the trenches come the revolution. “Let me know how you get on , fellas.”

  151. Leigh Lowe

    Calm down old timer. Just because I didn’t suck him off balls and all with three fingers in my date like you did, is no reason to discount my erudite opinions.

    Fair enough.
    But you had to run fucking hard to jump onto the running board of the bandwagon on Nov 8th.

  152. twostix

    We here in the open thread stopped caring about deficits back in 2013 m0nty.

    I mean, you were here and we were openly were talking about it, did you think we were joking you donut?

  153. Infidel Tiger

    Fair enough.
    But you had to run fucking hard to jump onto the running board of the bandwagon on Nov 8th.

    You need to play hard to get. Opening your legs straight away is no way to find a mate.

  154. Leigh Lowe

    You need to play hard to get. Opening your legs straight away is no way to find a mate.

    No need to be Mother Theresa, but.

  155. who did a better job on the economy, Ronald Reagan or Julia Gillard?

    LOL I notice you don’t put up Obama against Reagan. If you’re using the 1980s as a baseline, that would suggest that Trump will have to roll back his tax cuts in the face of ballooning deficits like Reagan did. Also that implies that Trump will do a lot of Keynesian pump priming on the spending side, as Reagan most definitely did.

  156. Empire GTHO Phase III

    Gentlemen – not in the lounge bar, please.

  157. Stimpson J. Cat

    You need to play hard to get. Opening your legs straight away is no way to find a mate.

    Yes yes you could still be sitting on that kerb next to Ted Cruz’s wife.
    Whatever.

  158. Infidel Tiger

    Trump can pump prime the economy with a beautiful wall.

  159. We here in the open thread stopped caring about deficits back in 2013 m0nty.

    Now there’s a radical concept, the thought that there is a Cat consensus. Not sure that dog hunts, 26.

  160. Leigh Lowe

    Eight years of “but Obama is turning America into the Weimar!” And now it’s all “party like it’s 1929 wheee!”

    Corporate America was in the bag for Hilary 18 months ago.
    Now they are announcing employee bonuses within hours of Donalds tax cuts passing both houses.
    Party like it is 1992 with Bill playing sax mate.

  161. Steve trickler.

    Great film intro. Excellent music.



  162. Leigh Lowe

    Trump can pump prime the economy with a beautiful wall

    Phhht.
    He doesn’t need to build an actual wall.
    He has supernatural powers of persuasion.
    If he just tells Mexicans that there is a virtual wall ….

  163. Leigh Lowe

    Empire GTHO Phase III

    #2590835, posted on December 22, 2017 at 12:56 am

    Gentlemen – not in the lounge bar, please.

    (Smashes glass against edge of table)
    ” …. and what are you fuckin lookin at?”

  164. twostix

    Now there’s a radical concept, the thought that there is a Cat consensus. Not sure that dog hunts, 26.

    “Beep boop” as fisk says.

    You’re so unimaginably stilted and autistic.

  165. JC, Trump is about to sign a tax bill that lowers living standards for all but the super-rich. Republicans don’t care about the little people.

    Monty, Please can you explain how this works?
    Use simple words & logically connected steps please – as I’m so dumb that I at first believed that a massive tax cut would have:
    Allowed me to pay mortgage quicker (so my lenders can lend more money to someone else)
    Allowed me to meet a higher payroll (there’s always a few jobs need doing around the place)
    Given me more some actual discretionary income, so I may spend on things I currently don’t, eg Hairdos, Shoes, Clothes.
    After those few things are out of the way, I’d have money to start some serious business development, which would;
    Allow me to employ more people, in both capex/construction stage and ongoing.
    Allow me to provide more amenity & choice for the general public to avail themselves of.

    You say it will not work out that way.
    I look forward to your comprehensive and logically jointed dots explaining how a massive tax cut to me would make people poorer.

  166. Monty: Any time in the next hour will do. It is just rolled over midnight, I’ll be extremely busy at work for about the next hour.
    I look forward to reading at that time your utter demolishing of my naïve & erroneous assumptions.

  167. zyconoclast

    Trump can pump prime the economy with a beautiful wall.

    Build that wall!

  168. Stimpson J. Cat

    Holy sh$t the Melbourne memes have begun.

  169. zyconoclast

    Steve trickler.
    #2590840, posted on December 22, 2017 at 1:00 am
    Great film intro. Excellent music.

    You forgot to give the delicate Cats a trigger warning.
    Harvey Weinstein at 2:35

  170. Serena, it is late so you get no screed from me. The short answer is that taxes will go up or stay flat for most, and cuts to health care and other programs mean normal people lose out bigly.

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/12/2/16720952/senate-tax-bill-inequality

  171. Infidel Tiger

    A Vox link. Do better please Monty. Much better.

  172. Fisky

    LOL I notice you don’t put up Obama against Reagan.

    Oh no, that goes without saying. Obama’s growth rates were lame. I was just wondering if you genuinely believed the Gillard/Swan team had comparable stats to Reagan. Guess not!

  173. Jimf

    On these days of plague “ice use/mental health” by bearded blokes there’s never been a better time to be a sign language expert. Talk about a growth sector.Dan could’ve just come on stage and given the public the one finger salute and it would have all made sense.

  174. twostix

    lol @ Vox.

    Next up in m0nty’s Reddit level intellectualism: a Buzzfeed think piece followed by a dry critique of President Trump by the intellectual Salon.com editorial staff.

  175. zyconoclast

    The US seems to be a secretive about dual citizens in their Parliament as our politicians are here.
    This from 2015

    Dual Citizens in Congress?

    Is dual citizenship in the U.S. Congress and administration creating potentially serious conflicts of interest?

    My Counterpunch piece of November 12, 2014 described a failed effort to identify members of Congress who hold dual citizenship and to ascertain the second nationality of those members. I mentioned the then outstanding Freedom of Information Act request that I filed with the Congressional Research Service (CRS) last October.

    This week I received the information I sought, in the form of a telephone call from a legal officer of the Library of Congress. After reminding me that Congress (and the CRS by its connection with Congress) is exempt from FOIA requests, he verbally confirmed my suspicion that CRS does not currently collect dual citizenship data.

  176. C.L.

    It’s been 24 hours since a Democrat, a leftist news anchor or a Clinton-aligned actor has been sacked for raping somebody. Amazing.

  177. Stimpson J. Cat

    bigly

    It just sounds wrong for a Hillary supporter to use that word.
    Please don’t Monty.
    It’s quite offensive.

  178. C.L.

    I actually feel sorry for Obama.
    Most inconsequential blip President ever.
    Chester A. Arthur looms large in comparison.

  179. zyconoclast

    After student hangs Kate Steinle posters, university’s bias response office launches probe

    A student at the University of California San Diego has been contacted to report to its Office for the Prevention of Harassment & Discrimination after hanging pro-Kate Steinle posters across the campus.

    On the evening of Dec. 7, Gregory Lu hung 150 posters of Steinle’s smiling face with the words “She had dreams too” in highly traversed areas across campus that other students typically hang items on, such as bulletin boards and the free speech area.

    Four days later, an investigator with the Office for the Prevention of Harassment & Discrimination emailed Lu asking to meet with him.

    “Our office received an online incident report and I would like to schedule a time to speak with you about it. Are you free this week by phone or in person,” the investigator asked in his email, a copy of which was obtained by The College Fix.

    Lu said he replied seeking more information about the meeting, which has yet to take place, and has been in contact with an attorney.

    Lu added he feels certain the bias complaint stems from the Steinle posters, noting as he put them up a couple students followed him around and watched his every move. The day after Lu hung the posters, all of them had been taken down, he added.

    The same day Lu was contacted by the bias office, the UC San Diego College Democrats had also called the posters “racist propaganda” targeting the “undocumented community” in a statement posted on their Facebook page. It went on to describe the posters as “displays of hate.”

    UC San Diego’s spokesman and the investigator from the bias office did not respond to College Fix requests for comment Monday and Tuesday.

    Lu, in a telephone interview with The College Fix, said he feels being contacted by a bias investigator is a way in which campus leaders can try to clamp down on his free speech rights.

    “This is definitely an intimidation attempt in trying to get students to make sure they never do this again,” said Lu, who put up the vast majority of the posters but did have help from two peers toward the end of his effort.

    “It’s a threat [the bias office’s probe] because conservatives on this campus already have a hard time,” Lu said. “For this to happen — it’s almost a violation of our free speech rights.”

    “We have had a bunch of left-wing posters go up all the time,” Lu added. “So the argument they might make is, ‘This is a political poster, we don’t want you to put it up’ is a nonsensical argument because leftists put up posters all the time.”

    While Lu is a member of the College Republicans, he said the poster effort was not done on that group’s behalf. Instead, it was the project of a newly formed Right Wing West.

    Right Wing West does include students who are members of College Republican chapters, but a representative of the budding organization told The College Fix that its members want to remain unnamed because they are concerned they will be targeted by progressive peers or overzealous administrators.

    Lu’s case may be a perfect example of that.

    As for the Steinle posters, it was the group’s first foray into activism, and according to a video posted on its Facebook page its members hung the same “She had dreams too” images on campuses across the West Coast, and they were “ripped down” at: University of Washington, UC Berkeley, UC Riverside, UC San Diego, UCLA, Cal Poly San Luis Obispo, Eastern Washington University, Washington State and San Diego State.

    The video includes a snippet of two women taking down the posters at the University of Washington, calling the images “racist” because of the wording.

    A student at San Diego State confirmed to The College Fix that the Steinle posters were taken down there. Berkeley students also posted photos showing that a large Steinle poster they had left up in memoriam had been ripped up and thrown away by unknown assailants.

    “The media and our politicians want to erase Kate’s name and story from history,” the group stated on Facebook. “It’s on us to speak the name of America’s lost daughter: Kate Steinle. #EndSanctuaryCities.”

    Lu said he was glad to take part in the operation.

    “I wanted to do this because I wanted to put forth the alternative narrative,” he said. “On a college campus the narrative is pretty leftwing. We wanted to put something up that said, ‘We denounce the verdict, we want to shine light upon this issue.’”

  180. zyconoclast

    The social costs of fatherlessness
    Fearing racial undertones, politicians ignore the devastation

    The causal relationship is profound between fatherlessness, single-parent families and the resultant murders, shootings, violence, poverty, lack of upper-mobility, school miseries for teachers and students, flourishing of vicious and brazen gangs (replacing fathers), lost job opportunities, illicit drug use and sales, and general quality of life.

    The statistics connecting all of these more or less measurable outcomes are well-established, reproduced and replicated. Just look at one summary statement from just one major study (Marriage and Family Review, 2003) titled “The Presence of Fathers in Attenuating Young Male Violence”: “Data analyzed across the U.S. indicate that father absence, rather than poverty, was a strong predictor of young men’s violent behavior.”

    When this nexus of social maladies and fatherlessness is publicly articulated orally or in writing, there is usually either no response (most frequent), an ad hominem response, or a false, irrelevant response (One such response: This is a “horrible statement and a condemnation of the black single parent household.”) There is nothing racially inherent in the locating of this social disaster of fatherlessness. Both white families and black families have about tripled the number of homes with kids without fathers since the 1960s.

    This author wrote a piece on the issue in the Baltimore Sun (“Blame Baltimore violence on a lack of fathers in the home,” July 25). Pursuant to its publication, I received more than a score of positive email responses, including from some of Maryland’s principle conservative politicians.

    There were no emailed disagreements on the argument that fatherlessness is a core cause of virtually all societal ills. When I discussed the issue of fatherlessness on the liberal “Marc Steiner Show,” the reaction was anger, personal vitriol toward me, and accusations that I was attacking families due to racial motivation — the argument always made — and that there are plenty of smooth-functioning, single-parent families around.

    Please. This criticism of families without present fathers does not mean that there are no families that do well with one parent or that there are no intact families that are dysfunctional. However, they are unusual and have little relevance to the general dysfunctions and miseries permanently attached to fatherlessness.

    The issue is the proverbial elephant in the state. The electronic and print media have major comprehensive pieces on violence in Baltimore and elsewhere by its top otherwise perspicacious reporters and yet they almost never even mention fatherlessness as a cause. Political leaders throughout the country are not even asked about it.

    Progressive political leaders are loathe to address or discuss fatherlessness as a problem and resent those who do, with a few exceptions like Maryland State Delegate Curt Anderson, who never is unwilling at least to take up the matter when prodded. When I have discussions on the topic with conservatives, they say the issue should be front and center but claim there is no willing audience to hear it. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

    Anthony McCarthy, head of the communications and public affairs team for Mayor Catherine E. Pugh of Baltimore, became enraged at me on a local talk news show weeks ago owing to my claim that Ms. Pugh did not have the courage to institute a program to engage, monetarily disincentivize and stigmatize fatherless families. Mr. McCarthy did not substantively counter my arguments but accused me of utilizing “talking points” in my criticism. Talking points? What does this mean? It is a way to dismiss a salient issue without confronting it. It’s always decision-makers “ignoring the issue.”

    Subsequently, Mayor Pugh herself, a guest on Jimmy Mathis’ show on WBAL, refused to speak to me, a fellow guest, apparently because of either my position on fatherlessness or my criticism of her as lacking the guts to publicly deal with this issue due to the fact that she might energize her own constituents’ political opposition.

    None of the foregoing is to argue that the social pathologies caused by fatherlessness are not exacerbated by other factors. Bad police conduct, inadequate schooling weaknesses, and judges undermining the criminal justice system with weak sentencing all make the problems worse. But there is no root cause more consequential in producing permanent violence, poverty and related life dissatisfaction issues than fatherlessness.

    Fatherlessness is as close to destiny as you can get. Politicians, community leaders, clergy and others ignore it at society’s peril, not their own, which is why they avoid it. If there is ever a sustained full-frontal assault on fatherless, results will be manifest is less than a decade.

  181. rickw

    Reading upthread, Munty is definitely a fat lesbian.

  182. rickw

    Why will hundreds of officers be on patrol?

    To protect the next muslim animal that tries something from being lynched by the punters.

  183. To protect the next muslim animal that tries something from being lynched by the punters.

    Bang on!
    To quote Vicpol, these animals must have their human rights protected.

  184. rickw

    I wonder what Munty’s standing orders are?

    “In the event of islamic terrorist attack, get over to the cat and launch as many distraction squirrels as possible!”

    Not about for days and then multiple postings mainly not about domestic islamic terrorism, not the first time either.

    I hope he gets paid well for this filthy job.

  185. Tom

    This morning in New York, Europe’s leading socialist shitboxes UK, France and Chermany — and other fairweather friends like Japan — voted with the Third World’s joo-hating shitboxes against the US’s decision to move its Israeli embassy to Jerusalem. Here is the list of people who voted for and against the UN resolution. Australia abstained. Those who voted against the US are now in ambassador Nikki Haley’s gunsights and may have their US foreign aid revoked as DJT threatened on Wednesday.

  186. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Office for the Prevention of Harassment & Discrimination

    A sub-section of the Ministry of Truth.

  187. Seco

    I’d say Andrews and VicPol are just taking a leaf out of the ACT Cops playbook after the explosion out the front of the ACL HQ. That was also done by a guy with no religious or ideological motives. Just a mentally disturbed individual. Move along now.

  188. Tom

    Worth liberating from the paywall one mo’ time. It’s part of the Paywallian’s “Best of 2017”:

    Milo Yiannopoulos
    The Australian
    12:00AM November 30, 2017

    Conspiracy theories are taking hold of Western civilisation. Angry, middle-aged feminists — beloved by journalists, hated by the rest of us for their hectoring tone and perhaps for the stench of cat urine and disappointment that follows them everywhere — have persuaded our credulous, virtue-signalling elites of a number of things that are simply not true.

    There is no “rape culture” on college campuses. That doesn’t mean rape doesn’t happen or that it isn’t awful. But rape rates have been falling all over the West for decades.

    There is no “gender pay gap”. In almost no organisations are women paid less than men for the same work. When stories do come out about pay gaps, they are almost exclusively in left-wing org­anisations, such as Gawker, the BBC and Hillary Clinton’s election team. Even a — female — Harvard economist couldn’t prove the existence of a wage gap when she tried last year.

    Instead of celebrating our society becoming more enlightened and men learning to respect women and women having equal access to education and pay, the bitter, man-hating lesbians of gender studies departments concoct scare stories to terrify young girls.

    We’ve got to a point where citing studies and questioning facts is enough to get you blacklisted from media, academe and the entertainment industry. I live in America, where the touchiest subject has always been race. Liberals have been calling conservatives racist for decades to shut down debate, but recently they have stepped up their assaults.

    They don’t call us racist any more. They call us “white supremacists” or “neo-Nazis”. Hilariously, they even do it to me, despite the fact I have a black husband and have never uttered a racist sentence in my life.

    If you bring any of this up, you’ll be called a misogynist, a sexist, a racist and perhaps something worse. Calling people names has become a substitute for argument for the bossy left-wingers who tell us lies while lecturing us about how we should live. Instead of persuading us (which they can’t on the facts), they bully, manipulate and intimidate us into pretending we agree with them. Then they shriek in horror when we turn around and vote for Brexit or Donald Trump, just to spite them.

    You’ve probably encountered something similar in your own life. Being told something you know isn’t true. Perhaps you’ve had to sit through “consent classes” at university, or mandatory “equality and diversity training” at your job. These compulsory finger-wagging sessions sound innocuous, but they are not. They’re designed to scare you into agreeing with far-left political positions.

    This month, a Cato Institute study revealed that 75 per cent of conservatives were afraid to express their opinions in public. You don’t need to be afraid. These people have only the power you give them.

    The tide is turning, and the era of social justice is coming to an end. All we defenders of common sense have to do is press home our advantage. Conservatism and libertarianism need an injection of good humour and mischief. So grow a spine, and grow a sense of humour. Australia, of all places, is not lacking in either courage or comedy.

    The reason I describe all feminists as bitter single lesbians and left-wing journalists as soy-fed beta male cuckolds isn’t just because it’s true — it’s because they have been hurling out insults for three decades at the rest of us. Frankly, they can handle a taste of their own medicine.

    You don’t have to be as sassy or insolent as I am. It’s probably not a great idea to call your vice-president of human resources a fat, miserable social justice loser who just wants to make everyone else as miserable as she is.

    But you can laugh. Laugh heartily. No one can resist the truth wrapped in a good joke, and ridicule is your most powerful weapon against the nannies and scolds of the left. And let’s face it, the left is hilarious, from the mannish bores on TV squealing about perceived offences to the feral, unemployed protesters who assemble at the drop of a hat to howl and moan and generally make asses out of themselves.

    Don’t be scared when pea-brained politicians from the Greens call your favourite journalist a “pedophile apologist” or “white supremacist” when you know it isn’t true. They’re just trying to make you afraid. Like all bullies, they are cowards. If you stand up to them, they will fold quickly.

    Laugh, and keep laughing, and between your uncontrollable fits of giggles at the comical excesses and hypocrisies of the progressive left, keep spitting facts, data and logic. If you can be a happy warrior instead of the usual fulminating Fox News host, if you can be charming, likeable, attractive, funny and modest — like me — you will win.

    Milo Yiannopoulos is an award-winning journalist and a New York Times bestselling author.

  189. Tom

    Stupid. Fucking. Spaminator.

  190. John Constantine

    Probably only happened in yarragrad because double demerits for Christmas driving offences aren’t enforced there.

    Double driving demerits, Bollards and importing paid informants among our mass imported welfare clients and voteherds are our strength.

    Comrades.

  191. Steyn: We Are the Bollards:

    So there will be more empty seats round the Christmas table this year, after an “Australian citizen” mowed down pedestrians at the junction of Flinders Street and Elizabeth Street in Melbourne. The casualties include “a pre-schooler with serious head injuries”. The “Australian citizen” (I presume this designation is being used to emphasize that he’s entirely eligible to serve in Mr Turnbull’s cabinet) did it deliberately, but relax, lighten up, there’s no need to worry because, according to Victoria’s police commissioner, all this terrifying terror is “not terror-related”.

    RTWT.

  192. Tel

    This morning in New York, Europe’s leading socialist shitboxes UK, France and Chermany — and other fairweather friends like Japan — voted with the Third World’s joo-hating shitboxes against the US’s decision to move its Israeli embassy to Jerusalem.

    Given how much the UN costs, you would think they could do something more useful, like for example moving Australia’s capital to Alice Springs (well, at least it’s in the middle).

  193. Herodotus

    MSM Bizarro World
    1. Russian collusion is real and must be investigated, when in fact it isn’t real.
    2. Terrorist incidents are not terrorist incidents, even though they are real.

  194. John Constantine

    Shutting down Queensland’s urea fertiliser industry and importing it all from the Chinese communist party is our strength.

    Quarter billion dollar a year contract to supply another half million tonnes of urea into Australia.

    Well worth bribing a few quisling politicians to stick unswervingly to Australia’s commitment to deindustrialise according to their signed Paris convention.

    Why can’t our politicals even get corruption right?.

    Every other crappy Pacific island corruptocracy at least gets a couple of decent roads out of it when they sell out to the chicoms.

  195. Zatara

    US Tax Cuts lead to lower tax revenues

    No, they don’t.

    The tax cuts of the 1920s
    Tax rates were slashed dramatically during the 1920s, dropping from over 70 percent to less than 25 percent. What happened? Personal income tax revenues increased substantially during the 1920s, despite the reduction in rates. Revenues rose from $719 million in 1921 to $1164 million in 1928, an increase of more than 61 percent.

    Kennedy Tax Cuts
    President Hoover dramatically increased tax rates in the 1930s and President Roosevelt compounded the damage by pushing marginal tax rates to more than 90 percent. Recognizing that high tax rates were hindering the economy, President Kennedy proposed across-the-board tax rate reductions that reduced the top tax rate from more than 90 percent down to 70 percent. What happened? Tax revenues climbed from $94 billion in 1961 to $153 billion in 1968, an increase of 62 percent (33 percent after adjusting for inflation).

    Reagan Tax cuts
    Thanks to “bracket creep,” the inflation of the 1970s pushed millions of taxpayers into higher tax brackets even though their inflation-adjusted incomes were not rising. To help offset this tax increase and also to improve incentives to work, save, and invest, President Reagan proposed sweeping tax rate reductions during the 1980s. What happened? Total tax revenues climbed by 99.4 percent during the 1980s, and the results are even more impressive when looking at what happened to personal income tax revenues. Once the economy received an unambiguous tax cut in January 1983, income tax revenues climbed dramatically, increasing by more than 54 percent by 1989 (28 percent after adjusting for inflation).

    It’s just not that difficult a concept.

    There are two rates that yield the same amount of revenue: high tax rates on low production, or low rates on high production.

    High rates on low production lead to lower production, less jobs, and less revenue.

    Low rates on high production encourages more production, more employment, and therefore more revenue.

  196. John Constantine

    When top level vicpol instruct the proles that they are to flee, cower and beg when threatened, that self defence resulting in charges of being literally a Nazi will unleash the full crushing power of the State, to prove the State isn’t racist, we know what they want.

    Disarming the proles so no apex predator can prosecute their victims for racism.

    In a country full of always on microphones inside houses, how long before google hands over recordings selected by artificial intelligence to the State of literally Nazi conversations over the kitchen table?.

    Google home voice activated microphone devices are our strength.

    Comrades.

  197. Tel

    High rates on low production lead to lower production, less jobs, and less revenue.

    Low rates on high production encourages more production, more employment, and therefore more revenue.

    Yeah, what people don’t get is the calculation changes every year… with more employment you also get more new technology which in turn opens up more production in a positive feedback. So it isn’t the revenue from the first year that matters, it’s the medium to long term.

    That said, with the Reagan tax cuts they actually gradually increased the tax after the economy got moving again, so they were temporary tax cuts… very likely Trump’s cuts will also be temporary, they will sneak it back up again.

    Another point is all the nominally “offshore” money which has yet to be taxed at all. By making it more attractive to bring it “onshore” the US government will at least get some tax paid out of that lot rather than none (and presuming the money gets spent on something they will get more bites of the cherry). Depending on how many corporations got for it, there might be some immediate boost in revenue from that.

    They still need to reduce spending, and to some extent they have been. Peter Schiff is kind of wrong about the spending problem… check here:

    https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/government-spending-to-gdp

    Trending DOWN since 2009, partly that’s because GDP is heading back up again, partly more people off food stamps and off unemployment payments. If Trump can just knock a few percent off that number it would be an all time low… a fine thing.

  198. cynical1

    Simple and realistic. Stop treating the public like idiots and you might go a little ways towards earning their trust back.

    Until the publics’ next question.

    “So why are we ramping up the import of the dregs of Africa and The Middle East”?

  199. feelthebern

    They need to make Clarence Thomas a zombie.

    John Roberts. Tick.
    Gorsuch. Tick.
    7 more to go.

  200. Farmer Gez

    Sometimes first impressions are right.
    Driver is Afghan, not Middle East.
    Passenger in the red shirt, who was calmly talking to police, wasn’t an active participant in the tradegy.

  201. rickw

    Heavily armed police and an ambulance at the location today. What a circus. Wankers.

  202. feelthebern

    Haven’t caught up yet, but re Melb yesterday have we seen:
    1) A magic Muslim appear who saved the day;
    2) Fatty Nixon took her snout out of the all you can eat buffet to save the day;
    3) Potential charges to be pressed against the mob of Tony Abbott supporters who may have actually caused the “car accident”;
    4) A GoFundMe page set up to support the poor refugee who we can’t really blame “‘Cos White Male Privilege” was the real culprit.

  203. Tel

    Fake news?

    Chinese Troops Arrive in Syria to Fight Uyghur Rebels

    Now that ISIS is losing, many of the wandering Jihaddi’s are starting to head home again. China would prefer they are, ahem, discouraged from further Caliphate building.

  204. feelthebern

    This just in.
    Andrew O’Keefe & the weird bead driver will be singing a duet at the next Carols By Candlelight.

  205. rickw

    The Age:

    Not terror-related’: Flinders Street driver of Afghan descent and mentally ill

    Fucking liars.

  206. rickw

    Australia abstained.

    Gutless as ever.

  207. feelthebern

    Chinese Troops Arrive in Syria to Fight Uyghur Rebels

    It’s the only decent policy the Frog with the Wife-Mother kept from the previous regime.
    Frenchies in Syria hunting down weird beard Frenchies.
    We should be doing the same publicly, if we are not already doing it privately.

  208. rickw

    Passenger in the red shirt, who was calmly talking to police, wasn’t an active participant in the tradegy.

    Yep, didn’t touch the handbrake at all.

  209. feelthebern

    PS, within 3 months of PM Bill Shorten rule, the Cat will be banned.
    As will terms:
    Weird beard;
    Rape multiplier;
    Islamic terrorism.
    Also, calling Shorten, “tits”, “dolly” or “peanut head” will also be banned.

  210. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    From Dover’s link to Steyn – terror gets all the attention, but we should also be concerned about the ‘mainstreaming’ of Islam and its cultural take-over:

    ‘British Muslims are being urged to wear a new ‘Poppy Hijab’ – as a challenge to extremist groups who ‘spout hatred’ about the Armed Forces.
    ‘The scarf is backed by mainstream Muslim groups including the Islamic Society of Britain and profits from its sale will be donated to the Poppy Appeal.’
    Well, that’s very nice of them, I’m sure, and the ladies look very charming in them. But, if they wished to reject “extremist groups” and support the armed forces, why couldn’t they just wear the same poppies that everybody else wears? Why does a communal ritual observed by the Queen’s subjects in every corner of the earth – Canadian, Bermudian, Tuvaluan, black, white, Protestant, Hindu – have to be Islamified to accommodate them?
    There’s something deeply narcissistic about this: Just as every Muslim terror attack is really about the entirely imaginary anti-Muslim backlash that never comes, so everything else has to be about Islam, too. In some ways, “A Very Merry Muslim Christmas” is an even more audacious act of narcissism. Yet the same PC policemen that think sensitive retailers should say “Happy Holidays” and municipalities should hold “Winter Festivals” are delighted by #AVeryMerryMuslimChristmas and are hashtagging up a storm. If the novelist Lionel Shriver wears a sombrero in Brisbane that’s “cultural appropriation”, but “A Very Merry Muslim Christmas” is just heartwarming and inclusive. No “appropriation” to see here – are you paranoid or something?

  211. feelthebern

    Passenger in the red shirt, who was calmly talking to police, wasn’t an active participant in the tradegy.

    Apparently it is all Macca’s fault.
    The chaps were told at drive-through that it wasn’t a halal Macca’s & they lost their McNuggets order.
    I think we’d all agree that Macca’s has questions to answer. (h/t Julia Gillard).

  212. rickw

    We should be doing the same publicly, if we are not already doing it privately.

    I have no doubt that our militaries orders will be to make sure that our weird beards don’t get accidentally nailed by the frogs or Chinese on their way home.

  213. Delta A

    Siltstone
    #2590773, posted on December 22, 2017 at 12:04 am

    Bravo!

    You’ve inspired me to write a similar letter.

  214. Tom

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #2590914, posted on December 22, 2017 at 7:20 am

    Lizzie, I note that, fully apprised of Melbournibad’s latest murderous jihadi cultural enrichment, Mark Steyn will be on Tucker Carlson (Foxtel 604) at midday today AEST.

  215. John Comnenus

    No doubt VicPol will release the name of the driver who mowed down a bunch of Christmas shoppers just as soon as they have found every social media item belonging to the man that might betray a jihadi mindset and scrub it from public view as a means of ‘preserving evidence’ and not ‘prejudicing’ their impending court case.

    Yep VicPol will tell us his name just as soon as his social media finger prints are scrubbed clean.

  216. Farmer Gez

    Mentally ill Afghani has made “utterances” about mistreatment of Muslims.
    Luckily he’s not a sane terrorist or it could be much worse. What a relief!

  217. Bruce of Newcastle

    Needs no comment:

    Go Ahead – Make My Day

    Ok, I will comment…it’s sad that Australia doesn’t have anyone like these two guys.

  218. johanna

    dover_beach
    #2590891, posted on December 22, 2017 at 6:41 am

    Steyn: We Are the Bollards:

    So there will be more empty seats round the Christmas table this year, after an “Australian citizen” mowed down pedestrians at the junction of Flinders Street and Elizabeth Street in Melbourne. The casualties include “a pre-schooler with serious head injuries”. The “Australian citizen” (I presume this designation is being used to emphasize that he’s entirely eligible to serve in Mr Turnbull’s cabinet) did it deliberately, but relax, lighten up, there’s no need to worry because, according to Victoria’s police commissioner, all this terrifying terror is “not terror-related”.

    RTWT.

    Yes.

    Also, take the time to listen to Steyn’s speech at his previous post. 40 minutes of superb analysis and great jokes.

  219. Baldrick

    I hear Victoria Police will be holding bedside courts this morning for those pedestrians injured yesterday for purposely throwing themselves into the path of a Suzuki driven by a weird beard.

    “We will not tolerate jaywalking persons of interest attempting to obstruct the free passage of a ve-hicle in the process of driving through an intersection, at speed,” a VicPol spokesperson said. “Anti-jaywalking bollards will be erected in the city centre to protect vehicles driven by persons of no particular faith from aimless pedestrians.”

  220. Tel

    We should be doing the same publicly, if we are not already doing it privately.

    I think Australia just phones it in, ordering the occasional drone strike with the work done by the USA.

  221. Baldrick

    Deliberately targeting civilians because of perceived injustices of a religious group …

    Amy Greenbank ✔ @Amy_Greenbank
    Breaking: Victoria’s Acting Police Commissioner tells @SkyNewsAust the alleged Flinders Street attacker ‘attributed his actions to perceived mistreatment of muslims’ but has no known links to any extremist group.

    The IRA copped a bum warp.

  222. Shelley

    Gab, you wrote yesterday that the Bourke Street Mall driver is out on bail. Is that correct? If so, outrageous. Can someone verify this?

  223. curious george

    Mentally ill Afghani has made “utterances” about mistreatment of Muslims.
    Luckily he’s not a sane terrorist or it could be much worse. What a relief!
    And not forgetting he is an “Australian citizen”.

  224. struth

    Good Moaning.

    I did a silly thing this morning.
    I woke up and checked what you guys were talking about.

    Apparently another terrorist attack yesterday in Melbourne.
    Then I turned on the TV to see if I could find out more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Sometimes I am just a disappointment to myself.

    As if those bastards were saying anything about it the next day.

    The closing down of Incitec Pivot in QLD will have huge ramifications.

    I carted out of there regularly for about 2 years.

    It was dying then.
    It was like a ghost town.
    Huge locker and shower rooms for the once employed, and a skeleton staff who “inducted” the drivers in to load their own tankers.
    I hade my own little office by my loading bay and rarely saw anyone except the security guard on the front gate.
    That was on the liquid side.
    A huge turn out for granulated on the other side of river.

  225. johanna

    rickw
    #2590910, posted on December 22, 2017 at 7:15 am

    Australia abstained.

    Gutless as ever.

    Even abstaining from the UN vote on Jerusalem would have been over the dead bodies of many in the DFAT hierarchy. They would have wanted to condemn Trump in every way possible.

    Presumably Bishop was ordered by Turnbull to not annoy Trump any more than the eejits already have. Perhaps there is a vestigial instinct of self preservation at work here.

  226. Boambee John

    m0nty
    #2590682, posted on December 21, 2017 at 10:57 pm
    Kudos, Inspector Infidel Tiger.
    Once again, you have solved the case.

    It is amazing how often these complex cases involving intricate forensic evidence and extensive investigation by experienced professionals can be instantly solved by bilious dudes sitting on their arses in front of computer screens in the dark.

    Two points m0nty.

    One, you seem to be suggesting that the premier of Victoria was pre-empting that “intricate forensic evidence and extensive investigation by experienced professionals”. Bit cheeky of you!

    Two, that “bilious dudes sitting on their arses in front of computer screens in the dark” would be like all your commentary on Wussia, Wussia, Wussia perhaps?

  227. Zatara

    For any thinking that the investigation tsunami in Washington flows only one way –

    New probe into Hillary’s role in ‘Uranium One’ deal as Jeff Sessions orders Justice Department to investigate claims of Clinton sleaze

    – Deal sold a company with 20 per cent of U.S. uranium mining capacity to a Russian state-owned firm
    – Several U.S. agencies had to sign off, including Hillary’s State Department
    – Bill Clinton got a $500,000 speaking fee from a Russian bank tied to the deal
    – Others who struck it rich with Uranium One deal gave the Clinton Foundation at least $33.6 million

  228. cohenite

    There’s something deeply narcissistic about this: Just as every Muslim terror attack is really about the entirely imaginary anti-Muslim backlash that never comes, so everything else has to be about Islam, too. In some ways, “A Very Merry Muslim Christmas” is an even more audacious act of narcissism.

    Islam is the most self-centred of ideologies: it encourages the extreme selfishness that defines muslims generally and terrorists in particular. Islam works very simply: it hollows out the host society, appropriates that society’s institutions, makes them halal and then moves on like a stream of army ants. The cockroaches are the quislings and traitors who apologise for islam.

    Interesting that police vis a vis the latest non-muslim attack in melbourne are saying the scum was motivated by the poor treatment of muslims.

  229. Tom

    Gutless as ever.

    I notice that, evidently fearing the withdrawal of US foreign aid, the following shitbox countries didn’t show up for today’s 128-9 anti-US vote at the UN: Central African Republic, Congo, El Salvador, Georgia, Guinea-Bissau, Kenya, Mongolia, Myanmar, Moldova, St Kitts & Nevis, St Lucia, Samoa, San Marino, Sao Tome-Principe, Sierra Leone, Swaziland, East Timor, Tonga, Turkmenistan, Ukraine and Zambia.

    Along with Australia, the countries that abstained were: Antigua-Barbuda, Argentina, Bahamas, Benin, Bhutan, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Cameroon, Canada, Colombia, Croatia, Czech Republic, Dominican Republic, Equatorial Guinea, Fiji, Haiti, Hungary, Jamaica, Kiribati, Latvia, Lesotho, Malawi, Mexico, Panama, Paraguay, Philippines, Poland, Romania, Rwanda, Solomon Islands, South Sudan, Trinidad & Tobago, Tuvalu, Uganda and Vanuatu.

    Those who voted with Israel and the US are: Guatemala, Honduras, Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Nauru, Palau and Togo. Put them on your list of places to visit.

  230. johanna

    Just when I thought that greenies had reached peak lying lunacy, along comes this:

    Clive Palmer’s proposed new central Queensland coal mine poses a potentially toxic health risk to drivers on Australia’s main highway north of Rockhampton, experts claim.

    Mr Palmer’s Styx Coal proposal, which prompted outrage in the wake of Queensland Nickel’s collapse, would also lose at least $441 million over its 20-year lifetime, according to figures in its own environmental impact statement (EIS).

    Blasting on the mine site, which straddles the Bruce Highway, also would likely produce highly toxic nitrogen dioxide that could “gas” travellers, according to Doctors for the Environment Australia (DEA).

    “This alone is a sufficient public risk to reject the proposal,” the public health pressure group said in a scathing submission to Queensland’s environment department.

    TheirABC has no opinion, of course. Just reporting the news.

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