Open Forum: December 23, 2017

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  1. Rafe Champion

    Dont lose track of your long johns and warm overcoat. Beware of global cooling!

  2. Nick

    I see that the mother of Afghanistan’s ‘greatest hit’ is in Australia. I’d love to know the net contribution of the family to Australia.

  3. Rafe Champion

    Another big tick for Trumpie on the climate front. Not a national security issue.

  4. zyconoclast

    I see that the mother of Afghanistan’s ‘greatest hit’ is in Australia. I’d love to know the net contribution of the family to Australia.

    An ambulance and hospital lead economic stimulus?

  5. Nick

    An ambulance and hospital lead economic stimulus?

    It’s strange that we haven’t seen a lot about who he was, what work he did, etc. All quiet.

  6. Mater

    From Vicki’s link:

    But if we made a fetish of Shakespeare (much richer and more profound than the Qu’ran, in my view), if we made him the sole object of our study and the sole guide of our lives, we would soon enough fall into backwardness and stagnation. And the problem is that so many Muslims want both stagnation and power: they want a return to the perfection of the seventh century and to dominate the twenty-first, as they believe is the birthright of their doctrine, the last testament of God to man. If they were content to exist in a seventh-century backwater, secure in a quietist philosophy, there would be no problem for them or us; their problem, and ours, is that they want the power that free inquiry confers, without either the free inquiry or the philosophy and institutions that guarantee that free inquiry. They are faced with a dilemma: either they abandon their cherished religion, or they remain forever in the rear of human technical advance. Neither alternative is very appealing; and the tension between their desire for power and success in the modern world on the one hand, and their desire not to abandon their religion on the other, is resolvable for some only by exploding themselves as bombs.

    Dalrymple has definitely got them nailed.

  7. What part of if enough people vote for a right wing party then they get the seat, and the liberals don’t, do you not get?

    What part of – it’s never happened, and under the current compulsory preferential voting system it’s never going to happen, don’t you get? What aspect of having to end the stranglehold the major parties have on the current voting system before any fledgling party has a chance of breaking through, eludes you? Which part of the only way to accomplish this within the current system is through a Senate voting bloc able to demand such a change, is beyond you?

    How does the right wing party get elected your way?

    It doesn’t. You still don’t get it. Under the current system, NO fledgling party can get elected to the HoR in sufficient numbers to make a difference, regardless of their political leaning. The system is specifically designed to ensure that outcome.

  8. who he was, what work he did

    The Disability Pension is an occupation now?
    Who knew?

  9. Gab

    Had this ear worm yesterday and today. Not that I mind too much 🙂

  10. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I see that the mother of Afghanistan’s ‘greatest hit’ is in Australia. I’d love to know the net contribution of the family to Australia.

    I know he’s an Australian citizen, but, in a just world, when he’s finished any sentence, he’d be stripped of his Australian citizenship, and deported.

  11. Nick

    Deported in a hog carrier, Zulu.

  12. I know he’s an Australian citizen, but, in a just world, when he’s finished any sentence, he’d be stripped of his Australian citizenship, and deported exiled.

    FIFY

    Deportation implies some level of responsibility on Australia’s part, that he gets there.
    Why should we give a flying fvck where he goes, as long as he goes?

  13. C.L.

    Daily Telegraph and radio news refer to San Francisco wannabe bomber as “a former US Marine.”

    Not “a Muslim convert.”

  14. Geriatric Mayfly

    Small comforts for an Afghan, it’s the little things that worry me about his well being . Will insurance pay up for his damaged vehicle? The ubiquitous neck brace for whiplash (not backlash) will be provided under Medibank without question. A Koran, a prayer mat, a visiting Imam, Mum on Centrelink and all set to go.

  15. Delta A

    Chip le Grand has a scathing piece about the Melbourne mayor in the Weekend $Oz. Robert Doyle: the uncorking of a mayoral scandal.

    Doyle has taken ‘snouts-in-troughs’ to a whole new level, guzzling for his country. Every ratepayer should read this expose and then investigate the antics of their local council.

  16. Baldrick

    Via The Guardian (spit) so no link:

    Dealing with the racist uncle and other Christmas dilemmas

    … and how do we know uncle is a racist?

    The racist uncle is a common source of tension. Right about the time guests are mopping up pudding and surveying the mountain of prawn shells, racist uncle is bound to declare that both major parties are hopeless and at least Pauline Hanson says what everyone is too scared to say.

    And that’s the total sum of why the Uncle is a racist, no other proof given.
    Anyone who doesn’t agree with The Guardian’s political views is a racist.

  17. Mater

    From the mosque’s CCTV the perp looks to be 200% bogan anglo-saxon, in looks and manner of dress

    It doesn’t smell right. Notice the CCTV camera panning and following him? Not a fixed line camera. Someone was controlling the camera in real time (and zooming in to make sure the features were clear).
    Whilst it is not impossible, most organisations don’t have people monitoring and controlling their cameras like this, unless they are expecting trouble. If they were, why didn’t the security guard who was doing it, respond immediately?

  18. John Constantine

    The work done by the melbourne crash bandicoot is the provision of diversity services and membership of a voting cartel.

    Deporting him is meaningless when our quisling politicals are hellbent on toppling the existing racist literally Nazi colony desperately clinging to the edges of the cliff, to replace it with a Satrapy through the population ponzi scheme.

    Our elites dynamiting our electrical power stations and buying solar panels from the very Chinese communist party that pays their bribes are the ones to be horsewhipped into exile

  19. Delta A

    This sums up my day.

    Been there, done that many, many times.

    Now I buy only square or rectangular presents… and I can mess even those up. But I use metres of satin ribbon for the ladies, foil for the fellas, and no-one seems to notice the scrappy corner folds.

  20. cohenite

    Mater

    #2592358, posted on December 23, 2017 at 4:46 pm

    For those interested in Theodore Dalrymple’s experience of Islam in the UK, one article (perhaps not the one I had read earlier) is worthwhile:

    https://www.city-journal.org/html/when-islam-breaks-down-12512.html

    Thank you Vicki. A bloody good article.

    A good essay; there are many. Islam is not just fundamentally different to Western society it is militarily opposed to Western society. Muslims are your enemy. Why don’t our leaders understand this?

  21. Geriatric Mayfly

    Can’t link but a look a flightaware.com shows utter madness in the air over the US, the Atlantic and Europe. If Santa’s reindeers can find their way through that lot it will be an heroic feat.

  22. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Why should we give a flying fvck where he goes, as long as he goes?

    I’d give a flying fvck if he went to Yemen, or the Sudan, or somewhere were they still practice slavery.

  23. zyconoclast

    It’s strange that we haven’t seen a lot about who he was, what work he did, etc. All quiet.

    Mosque and Centrelink attendee?

  24. Tintarella di Luna

    Been there, done that many, many times.

    Now I buy only square or rectangular presents… and I can mess even those up. But I use metres of satin ribbon for the ladies, foil for the fellas, and no-one seems to notice the scrappy corner folds.

    Gee Delta A – my shoving things in Christmas bags really shows up my rather poor effort – but needs must – trimmings, frills and furbellows on pressies are always appreciated.

  25. egg_

    I see that the mother of Afghanistan’s ‘greatest hit’ is in Australia. I’d love to know the net contribution of the family to Australia.

    Negative, I’ll bet.

  26. notafan

    Noori was described as a former tradesman.

    Mum took a swing with her handbag at reporters outside the court.

    Still waiting for interviews with family and friends

  27. Baldrick

    Via TheirABC:

    Victorians have been urged to remain vigilant and avoid making “silly choices” over the festive season following a car attack at Flinders Street in Melbourne, with heightened security at the Boxing Day Test match and other major events.

    So there you have it. Walking across the road is now a ‘silly choice’ and Melbourne has a bad case of rogue cars attacking people.

  28. Geriatric Mayfly

    But I use metres of satin ribbon for the ladies, foil for the fellas, and no-one seems to notice the scrappy corner folds.

    Forget the frippery. Yards of sticky tape will eventually corral those corners. It also helps if you iron last year’s wrapping paper first, on medium heat. Scorch marks would give the game away.

  29. Bruce of Newcastle

    Not “a Muslim convert.”

    Second story on NBN Nine news was a humungous punch-up at a wedding.
    “I wonder” thought I.
    In Bankstown, the reporter said.
    “Ohhh”, thought I.
    Then came the CCTV footage of the bearded types laying into each other. And the interviews with “bystanders” with exotic names.
    Not a single mention of the “m” word or the “i” word.
    I can’t imagine that a Hindu or a Catholic wedding altercation would be such a description free zone.

  30. H B Bear

    Mater (at 5.28) – Islam is a great religion and social philosophy if you are trying to control 7th Century illiterate goat herders. Just as the Old Testament was.

    Times change. Islam hasn’t.

  31. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Tim Blair is extracting the urine from Tim Soutphommasane – Tim “Solarpanelrebate” is his best effort.

  32. egg_

    I tried include a realistic rendition of my todger on the ballot paper last year

    I usually trace around mine with a Texta Mark.

  33. I usually trace around mine with a Texta Mark.

    Surely that should be Textor?

  34. egg_

    Victorians have been urged to remain vigilant and avoid making “silly choices”* over the festive season following a car attack at Flinders Street in Melbourne, with heightened security at the Boxing Day Test match and other major events.

    *Going out in public?

  35. egg_

    Were any Mo’s Mo’ed down by teh mad Mo in the Mo’torcar?

  36. egg_

    Surely that should be Textor?

    For Grig’s eyes only.

  37. Geriatric Mayfly

    While the motive for the attack is not believed to be terror-related, security has been increased across the city following Thursday’s incident. Fairfax

    If there’s a Muslim involved, surely we start with Terror and then move down the list. This predictable appeasement routine has everything arse about.

  38. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Here is former Labor WA pollie Barry Urban in all his disgraced glory, wrongly claimed medals and all.

    Still sitting in State Parliament, drawing his salary….Who’s having the last laugh?

  39. notafan

    Legal aid funded or perhaps he had him before?

    Noori’s lawyer

  40. Roger

    For those interested in Theodore Dalrymple’s experience of Islam in the UK, one article (perhaps not the one I had read earlier) is worthwhile

    Yet I come away thinking he hasn’t actually grasped the problem.

    He hasn’t escaped his naive historicism & still thinks progress and enlightenment will inevitably trump Islam.

    Meanwhile, Turkey – a member of NATO – slowly surrenders to an atavistic Islam and sends waves of migrants and guest workers into W. Europe with a charge to colonise/Islamise it.

  41. Rockdoctor

    Delta A
    #2592386, posted on December 23, 2017 at 6:12 pm

    Townsville City Council just awarded a Hotel permit near the new Stadium that no one but developers want to a fishing mate of an ALP apparatchik. Apparently still not enough for the CCC to investigate Jenny Hill. Thank-you Peter Beattie for politicising the former CMC…

  42. calli

    Mum took a swing with her handbag at reporters outside the court.

    Poor impulse control?

  43. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Legal aid funded or perhaps he had him before?

    Looking at Noori’s record in the “Daily Mail” – minor assault charge in 2010, driving without a licence, using a mobile while driving, not answering bail, I’d say ‘Legal aid.”

  44. Geriatric Mayfly

    However, his barrister, Tass Antos, asked the magistrate to excuse his client from the hearing because of his mental health.
    “He is not very well,” Mr Antos said.
    “Having him in court would not do his mental health any good.”

    Bring out the tissues for Gargasoulas. This mental health lark has replaced the Mediterranean Back and is now the most prevalent invisible disability. RSI went the same way. (Sorry Stimpy, but it is obviously being used as a ruse by so many)

  45. Delta A

    Gee Delta A – my shoving things in Christmas bags really shows up my rather poor effort

    Tinta, you are the smart cookie. Christmas bags for me in future, too.

  46. Bruce of Newcastle

    Some more from the Nine bulletin, as the story is now up on their website:

    Man charged with 18 counts of attempted murder over Flinders Street ‘car attack’

    A former [colleague] of Mr Noori’s has told 9NEWS he worked with the accused at a call centre, where he was known as Mark.

    “There was always talk of his religious beliefs, he was very strong in that,” the worker, who only wished to be identified as Daniel, said.

    “People would say ‘I believe in God’ and he’d say ‘you need to believe in Allah’.

    “It was a forced opinion and we weren’t allowed to have our belief if it was his belief, essentially.”

    Daniel was shocked to hear the man he worked with was allegedly responsible for the Flinders Street rampage but said he’d seen some aggression in Mr Noori before.

    “There was one or two instances where he’d blow up and he’d say I need you to calm down you’re at work now.”

    I think that makes it quite clear what his motive was.

  47. stackja

    BON MI treated with caution. We know why.

  48. calli

    Is everyone revelling in the diversity?

    We need more!

  49. Arky

    I usually trace around mine with a Texta

    ..
    Into all the boxes or only your first preference?

  50. calli

    Guns of Navarone on now Cats.

    When diversity was seen as a Bad Thing.

  51. stackja

    BON motive known by all but usual suspects. BTW a 30 something didn’t know about Melbourne. I gather FM music fan.

  52. Delta A

    It also helps if you iron last year’s wrapping paper first, on medium heat.

    Ex SiL does precisely that. She also washes and hangs on the line vege and bread plastic bags.

    Can’t laugh about it, though. Her hoarding obsession has ruined her life and all of her relationships.

    So chuck out your stash of ironed paper, GM, because we care.

  53. Oh come on

    I wonder what our asylum seeker Twitter friends on Manus think about the Afghan chap’s meltdown? I’m sure Behrouz and those other model Australians-in-waiting have a useful perspective on what it’s like to be a persecuted refugee.

    Fisky is right – those Twitter accounts are gold.

  54. Geriatric Mayfly

    I was taught, when quite young, that it was in poor taste to look into a lady’s handbag. But I do wonder what might be the contents of a Muslima’s bag.

  55. notafan

    I was pondering that Roger.

    Comparing the predicament of a fictional Juliet was my first misgiving.

    I have no doubt that young Italian women in the Shakespearian age could be put under enormous pressure to marry to please family, but my understanding that was generally only in the upper classes and women who did not wish marriage had other options.

    Marrying cousins was also forbidden and nor could a marriage be dissolved at the whim of a husband.

    For Muslim women the only choice is married or whoredom.

    As often discussed here the relationship between Mohammed and the Quran makes reformation impossible.

    No three legged stool, if you deny one you deny both.

    Men were free to think on science long before the reformation too.

    I think Twain had Islam pegged, and the constant battle for top dog position, perfectly demonstrated in the 1000 plus Islamist factions in Syria forever changing sides, fighting each tells the same old story of destruction from within being inevitable.

  56. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    But I do wonder what might be the contents of a Muslima’s bag.

    Essence of perpetual victimhood and entitlement?

  57. Leo G

    … avoid making “silly choices”* over the festive season ..

    Not a marry crossdress and hapai new queer, then?

  58. Tinta, you are the smart cookie. Christmas bags for me in future, too.

    Christmas Gift Wrapping Simplified.
    1) – Buy a Gift Voucher and a suitable card for everyone on your list.
    2) – Pour a glass of shiraz.
    3) – Write personal message in card, place card and voucher in envelope, address envelope.
    4) – Place sealed, addressed envelope under tree, or post, as appropriate.
    5) – Pour yourself another shiraz. Life is good.

  59. egg_

    Into all the boxes or only your first preference?

    Depends on the weather.

  60. notafan

    Also have to say Noori looks a lot older than 32.

    Well nourished, not a drug look, though maybe that is the reason.

    I wonder what age recognition technology would make of him.

    Surprised no wife no children either.

  61. Not a marry crossdress and hapai new queer, then?

    Whatever.
    Just remember to eat, drink, and be Mary.
    Or Marty, if you prefer. It’s all legal now.

  62. Boambee John

    Baldrick at 1817

    Anyone who doesn’t agree with The Guardian’s political views is a racist.

    Could be worse. Disagree with m0nty’s political views and you are like, literally, like, a Nazi (for mild disagreement you might only be a fascist).

  63. Top Ender

    But I do wonder what might be the contents of a Muslima’s bag

    2 box cutter knives
    1 Koran
    1 mobile phone, detonator, bomb, remote, for the use of
    2 false ID
    1 Get out of Jail Free card
    Box tissues
    1 lipstick, writing on mirrors, bomb threats, for the use of

  64. Geriatric Mayfly

    Great tips MV BUT….. Those gift vouchers are very handy, except they have printed on them their value. The gathering on the day could turn fractious when the perfectly formed au pair gets $50, the Missus $25 and the gummy aunt from way back gets $10. If you get my drift.

  65. stackja

    BON How does Newcastle handle two NBN?

  66. Delta A

    Christmas Gift Wrapping Simplified.
    1) – Buy a Gift Voucher and a suitable card for everyone on your list.

    For daughter and SiL I bought a food and drink voucher at a restaurant I know they love, but can’t afford often, with the addition of free babysitting from us, for our delightful grandies. (Card inside envelope, no wrapping.)

    For Granddaughters, their ‘aching for’ tickets to Anthony Warlow’s Wizard of Oz. Again, no wrapping.

    Grandboy and the others: rectangular boxes. Limited wrapping.

    I have this Christmas thing totally wrapped up!

  67. notafan

    Thank you BoN

    An agressive proletizing muslim, in fact.

  68. Bruce of Newcastle

    Is it because they eat ebil coal?

    CNN: ‘Thomas the Tank Engine’ and ‘Paw Patrol’ Are ‘Fascist Cartoons’

    CNN called Thomas the Tank Engine and Paw Patrol “fascist cartoons” in an article on Friday, days before children around the globe will find toys from the popular shows under the Christmas tree.

    In the article, titled “Why kids love ‘fascist’ cartoons like ‘Paw Patrol’ and ‘Thomas,’” CNN contributor Elissa Strauss claimed children are “drawn to worlds in which identities are fixed, order trumps imagination and transgressions are met with routine punishment.”

    I can’t wait for them to describe Peppa Pig as an insult to the Religion of Peace.

  69. Mater

    Yet I come away thinking he hasn’t actually grasped the problem.
    He hasn’t escaped his naive historicism & still thinks progress and enlightenment will inevitably trump Islam.

    I don’t know, Roger. I got the feeling he has resigned himself to the fact that it won’t/can’t.

    Certainly such experiences have moderated the historicism I took to Afghanistan—the naive belief that monotheistic religions have but a single, “natural,” path of evolution, which they all eventually follow…

    My historicist optimism has waned. After all, I soon enough learned that the Shah’s revolution from above was reversible—at least in the short term, that is to say the term in which we all live, and certainly long enough to ruin the only lives that contemporary Iranians have. Moreover, even if there were no relevant differences between Christianity and Islam as doctrines and civilizations in their ability to accommodate modernity, a vital difference in the historical situations of the two religions also tempers my historicist optimism…

    And there is enough truth in the devout Muslim’s criticism of the less attractive aspects of Western secular culture to lend plausibility to his call for a return to purity as the answer to the Muslim world’s woes. He sees in the West’s freedom nothing but promiscuity and license, which is certainly there; but he does not see in freedom, especially freedom of inquiry, a spiritual virtue as well as an ultimate source of strength. This narrow, beleaguered consciousness no doubt accounts for the strand of reactionary revolt in contemporary Islam. The devout Muslim fears, and not without good reason, that to give an inch is sooner or later to concede the whole territory.

  70. cynical1

    I was taught, when quite young, that it was in poor taste to look into a lady’s handbag. But I do wonder what might be the contents of a Muslima’s bag.

    Three pebbles.

    For emergencies.

  71. Eyrie

    MV it greatly pleases me and uplifts my soul too to see ships lifting for space and now even the tugboats returning to harbour after safely delivering their ships to space. Port Canaveral is where the rockets takeoff and land. Where the barges and boats dock is the Canaveral docks IMO.
    If you haven’t read it I suggest you read Michael F. Flynn’s “Firestar” quadrilogy. I’m sure you’ll enjoy it.

  72. Geriatric Mayfly

    An agressive proletizing muslim, in fact.

    With, Allah knows, how many generations of tribal peculiarities bred into him.

  73. Gab

    Daniel was shocked to hear the man he worked with was allegedly responsible for the Flinders Street rampage but said he’d seen some aggression in Mr Noori before.

    “There was one or two instances where he’d blow up and he’d say I need you to calm down

    Ah, so no indication of “metal health issues” then form co-workers. Worked in a call centre where he got religiony and cranky. And what about his Ice habit? What employer would keep an Ice addict on at work?

    And how the hell do the police know the Murderous Muslim was on Ice at the time anyway?

    All BS.

  74. stackja

    Will treatment of Melbourne man be source of future events?

  75. Bruce of Newcastle

    BON How does Newcastle handle two NBN?

    Stackja – NBN Nine is quite jolly. They do good Newcastle and Central Coast stories, plus further afield up the Hunter Valley, all on the smell of an oily rag. Website is here:

    http://www.nbnnews.com.au/

  76. GM;

    I was taught, when quite young, that it was in poor taste to look into a lady’s handbag. But I do wonder what might be the contents of a Muslima’s bag.

    I looked into my wifes handbag one day, to find to my surprise, a supply of the pill.
    This was several years after my vasectomy.
    A voluble discussion followed, then came the elevation of the wife to exwife.
    Sometimes looking into forbidden places is worthwhile.

  77. Rabz

    #foreignerswhores&quislings

    😡

  78. Rabz

    But I do wonder what might be the contents of a Muslima’s bag.

    Which bag?

    At least you know the one on her ugly bonce is empty.

  79. Snoopy

    I took Andrew’s admonition against “silly choices” to be a veiled threat against people making citizens ‘arrests’.

  80. Tom

    Because Australia has Togo’s internet speeds – as a result of the Australian government barring effective private competition for its hopeless telecommunications monopoly – it has just taken me nearly an hour to read the past week’s work by Tim Blair.

    That is because prime minister Martin Trumble, after foolishly dabbling in the private sector, is using his position to assemble a fortune that any corrupt African dictator would envy.

    There’ll be no draining of any swamp Down Under, comrades.

  81. Rabz

    Andrew’s admonition against “silly choices” to be a veiled threat against people making citizens ‘arrests’

    Fine. Summarily execute them and claim to be a mentally ill drug addict*.

    *Administer some boot polish if you have to. We all know how staggeringly stupid the so called “authoritahs” are.

  82. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Lorde under fan pressure to ditch Israel
    By Sam Blewett, Press Association Los Angeles Correspondent, AAP
    December 22, 2017 12:01PM

    New Zealand singer Lorde says she’s considering pulling out of a concert in Israel after a backlash from fans.

    The 21-year-old songstress responded to fans on Twitter on Thursday night after an open letter called for her to cancel her June show in Tel Aviv.

    They argued it would show support for Israel’s occupation of Palestine.

    “Noted! Been speaking w many people about this and considering all options. Thank u for educating me i am learning all the time too,” Lorde tweeted.

    Two fans in New Zealand – Justine Sachs, who is Jewish, and Palestinian Nadia Abu-Shanab – wrote the open letter on website The Spinoff.

    “A performance in Israel sends the wrong message. Playing in Tel Aviv will be seen as giving support to the policies of the Israeli government, even if you make no comment on the political situation,” they wrote.

    “Such an effect cannot be undone by even the best intention and the best music.”

    They quoted British songwriter Elvis Costello who previously cancelled an Israeli show in protest over the treatment of Palestinians.

    Somebody remind me – where’s Palestine?

  83. Makka

    The fix is in. Nothing to do with Islam.

    Police prosecutor Senior Constable Amitoj Singh told the court Mr Noori allegedly drove at pedestrians with “the intention of killing or causing serious injury to as many people as possible”.

    His motive, Senior Constable Singh said, was still under investigation.

    Mr Noori’s lawyer Tass Antos said his client had mental health issues.

    Magistrate Bob Kumar ordered him to undergo a psychiatric assessment.

  84. Rabz

    it has just taken me nearly an hour to read the past week’s work by Tim Blair

    Bluddee hell. You’ll never get that hour back, Tommy. I hope it was worth it.

    My last few visits there have almost ended up in me taking to whatever device was displaying it with a sledgehammer.

  85. cynical1

    Magistrate Bob Kumar ordered him to undergo a psychiatric assessment.

    Is “Bob” short for Mohammed?

  86. Roger

    I don’t know, Roger. I got the feeling he has resigned himself to the fact that it won’t/can’t.

    Read the last and therefore conclusive para again, Mater.

    He thinks Islam will be dissolved by the same acids of secularism that have dissolved the C of E and much W. Christianity.

    That’s not at all certain.

    We’ve already seen how secular societies are willing to surrender basic principles to accomodate Islam.

  87. notafan

    Can I just say a couple of people I know had five minute visits with a bulk bill GP and walked out with ‘mental health plans’

    They’re handed out like boiled lollies.

    Trying to talk up Noori’s mental health plan, no doubt.

    ama mansplaining mental health plans

  88. Roger

    Is “Bob” short for Mohammed?

    Robert. Fiji Indian Christian, I think.

  89. C.L.

    With all this talk of a “beefed up” police presence on the streets of Melbourne, why not call Christine Nixon and Graham Ashton back into service?

  90. Boambee John

    memory vault at 1533

    Uh huh.
    And what have I consistently urged people to do with their senate vote at the same time, Arky?
    It’s called a “voting strategy”. That doesn’t count as “voting”?

    What am I saying – of course it doesn’t count for the likes of you and Struth.
    Anything other than “vote Liberal coz at least they’re not Labor” doesn’t count.
    Such a brilliant voting strategy – and it has worked so well for the last half century.
    The nirvana of Argenstralia can only be an election or two away.

    I suspect that most here would agree with you on three things.

    First, the system is rigged in favour of the two big parties (I think you have referred to them as the “National Socialist Uniparty”).

    Second, we should try to get enough conservative Senators to hold a balance of power.

    Third, if threatened, the “National Socialist Uniparty” will join together to preserve their position.

    Unfortunately, number three tends to negate number two. The “National Socialist Uniparty” is always likely to hold a majority in the Senate.

    Where some (prominently struth, but including me, Arky and others) differ is on the approach to take in the Reps. For reasons that have some force, you favour not voting there, or voting informal. Unfortunately, this leaves the Reps to the “rusted ons”, whose votes will perpetuate the present broad numbers. This also allows the majors to convince themselves and the MSM that the declining number of valid votes shows lack of interest or ignorance, not anger.

    The occasional swing election will see Liars and Lieboral change sides in the chamber, but the “National Socialist Uniparty” will rule in perpetuity. Together they will always be able to preserve their interests in BOTH chambers.

    Struth, I, and others favour voting for any right wing or conservative or Christian or other “non-major” party first in the Reps. This will not, at least in the near term, change the numbers there because of the “rusted ons”.

    However, it will show the major parties that there is an ongoing, and hopefully increasing, drift from them, which might ultimately endanger prominent Reps members (the prominent senators will always be at the top of their party list, and therefore safe).

    It is a long game to play, but it offers two paths to change the system. Your way offers one path only, one which the “National Socialist Uniparty” will always trump.

  91. notafan

    Also Kennet pointing out that drug induced mental illness should never be accepted as an excuse for a crime is true.

    It doesn’t work for druggies committing a burglary to feed their habit, why on earth would it for deliberately running down innocents to avenge alleged injustice to Muslims?

  92. Boambee John

    PS, neither of us can do anything except lay out our favoured tactic, and follow it ourselves, hoping that others also follow.

    Herding Cats and Kittehs is not possible.☺☺

  93. Leo G

    Politico is now reporting that a top FBI official is linked to the reporter who broke the Trump dossier story.

    James Baker, the FBI’s recently reassigned general counsel, was in touch with David Corn of Mother Jones in the fall of 2016.

  94. Roger

    First, the system is rigged in favour of the two big parties (I think you have referred to them as the “National Socialist Uniparty”).

    Deny the Libs your your primary vote and give it to a minor party that will receive more than 4% of the vote, such as ACs.

    Your preferences may go back to the Libs but your vote won’t be counted towards their public electoral funding.

    At a time of decreasing membership activity and donations, that can be a significant punitive message.

  95. Snoopy

    Politico is now reporting that a top FBI official is linked to the reporter who broke the Trump dossier story.

    Softly, softly, catchee monkey.

  96. nemkat

    The fix is in. Nothing to do with Islam.
    Some sort of fix is always in.
    The bigger issue, in my opinion, is that none of the participants in this farce are identifiable as either Christians or Australians from their surnames, yet 3 of the 4 are taking part in important decision making, and the fourth is the defendant.
    Rather than devising ways to outsmart the political system for partisan advantage, a better idea might be for people who identify as Australians and with Australia, to come together and stand up to the Fifth Columnists.

  97. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Five Agricultural Colleges face farm profits being skimmed by State
    Bethany Hiatt, PerthNow
    December 23, 2017 6:00AM

    COUNTRY school students are facing another set of cuts after revelations the State Government plans to skim off a chunk of profits made by school farms.

    WA’s five Agricultural Colleges — in Harvey, Narrogin, Morawa, Cunderdin and Denmark — and Esperance Farm School each put 40 per cent of the income their farms generate into the Agricultural Education Provisions Trust.

    The funds are distributed back to the colleges and to smaller farm schools to buy equipment or help them get through a poor season.

    The Education Department informed college principals last week that it had decided to take an annual 20 per cent dividend of the trust funds from 2019, estimated at about $200,000 a year.

    The decision comes on top of announcements of other education funding cuts affecting rural students, including closing five Schools of the Air, six regional camp schools and school boarding accommodation in Moora and Northam.

    It’s all good – not many Labor voters in rural Western Australia.

  98. Leigh Lowe

    Delta A

    #2592386, posted on December 23, 2017 at 6:12 pm

    Chip le Grand has a scathing piece about the Melbourne mayor in the Weekend $Oz. Robert Doyle: the uncorking of a mayoral scandal.

    I have no doubt Robert Doyle is a flog.
    But so is Chip le Grand.
    If you read his story it is mostly uncorroborated and unattributed gossip.
    Don’t underestimate the possibility that Doyle has been set up by the Green Left.
    Yes, I know, Fatty has done a deal with the devil siding with the soft-left, but I hate seeing anyone being railroaded on flimsy evidence.

  99. struth

    What part of – it’s never happened, and under the current compulsory preferential voting system it’s never going to happen, don’t you get?

    A minor party has never claimed a seat in the HoR?
    There, until recently, has never been the need for a new conservative party, so of course it hasn’t happened before (as you see not happening, having a majority and forming government)
    However, way back parties have come and gone and one side of the Uniparty eventually will.
    Mine is an admittedly long term approach that supports those trying to come forward.
    Yours will always deny them the ability.
    The uniparty will move to control the senate as we are seeing.
    My way won’t work over one election, but these days are different to the past, as a once sort of middle of the road right wing party has moved hard left.
    Your way won’t work over a hundred elections.

    What aspect of having to end the stranglehold the major parties have on the current voting system before any fledgling party has a chance of breaking through, eludes you? Which part of the only way to accomplish this within the current system is through a Senate voting bloc able to demand such a change, is beyond you?

    It is legal to fight for both houses, you know.

  100. cohenite

    He thinks Islam will be dissolved by the same acids of secularism that have dissolved the C of E and much W. Christianity.

    That’s not at all certain.

    We’ve already seen how secular societies are willing to surrender basic principles to accomodate Islam.

    Islam creates arguably the most powerful belief system known to humans. Self esteem is based on creating a profound enemy of those who are not like you. This operates on a personal as well as a collective level; which is why dealing with islam is a statistical process: as the number of muslims increases the chances one of the pack is going to act at a personal level against the other also increases. There’s no way of knowing which muslim will act. The idea that only mentally disturbed muslims do this is egregiously wrong. Plenty of muslim murderers were well educated and apparently adjusted to Western society; the Fort Hood murderer being a case in point.

    The point is for islam murdering the infidel is perfectly sane and reasonable. There may be some justification for saying by Western standards muslim terrorism is insane but this misses the point. Islam is against any other social form. Saying secularism is less capable than another faith based society such as Christianity of dealing with islam is a bit like saying only something as fundamental as islam can deal with it.

    The real reason the West can’t deal with islam is because currently the West is led by groups which hate it. islam is merely capitalising on a previous insurrection by the left who in true Gramsci form have infiltrated and control our institutions. These groups have to be dealt with first and it does not matter whether it is by Christians or secularists as long as it is by people who support the West.

  101. egg_

    Top Ender
    #2592443, posted on December 23, 2017 at 7:15 pm

    LOL

  102. Snoopy

    Though a Marist poll finds that almost 60 percent of Americans like “Merry Christmas” more than “Happy Holidays,” the Chicago Tribune reports that another study shows that “Merry Christmas” is now a political declaration:

    Damn straight.

  103. Atoms for Peace

    Until cars are totally banned from cities, an increased police presence won’t make an iota of difference to a terrorist intent on harm.

  104. egg_

    Until cars are totally banned from cities

    They’ll just find another way to play Mo Pedestrian Pinball.

  105. Leigh Lowe

    Leo G

    #2592483, posted on December 23, 2017 at 8:34 pm

    Politico is now reporting that a top FBI official is linked to the reporter who broke the Trump dossier story.

    James Baker, the FBI’s recently reassigned general counsel, was in touch with David Corn of Mother Jones in the fall of 2016

    Popcorn time.
    A couple of casual observations …
    (1) The GOP (those interested at least) seem to know where to look (are the leakers being leaked against?);
    (2) The Shillary fan-boi leakers seem to have ended up using B-grade channels (Mother Jones? … Really?)
    (3) The leakers also seem to have been rather indiscrete. Almost as if they expected a Shillary win and would have been quite happy for word to get around the swamp …
    (4) Oh dear …

  106. Boambee John

    struth at 2103

    Did you see my post at 2031?

  107. Boambee John

    A minor party has never claimed a seat in the HoR?

    Adam Bandt?

  108. Boambee John

    cohenite at 2103

    The real reason the West can’t deal with islam is because currently the West is led by groups which hate it. islam is merely capitalising on a previous insurrection by the left who in true Gramsci form have infiltrated and control our institutions. These groups have to be dealt with first and it does not matter whether it is by Christians or secularists as long as it is by people who support the West.

    Indeed, purge the traitors and Quislings, then resolve the Islam issue, which only became a problem as a result of the actions of the traitors and Quislings.

  109. Mater

    Read the last and therefore conclusive para again, Mater.

    I take (and agree with) your point, Roger.

  110. zyconoclast

    Great tips MV BUT….. Those gift vouchers are very handy, except they have printed on them their value. The gathering on the day could turn fractious when the perfectly formed au pair gets $50, the Missus $25 and the gummy aunt from way back gets $10. If you get my drift.

    perfectly formed au pair

  111. Leigh Lowe

    notafan

    #2592475, posted on December 23, 2017 at 8:28 pm

    Can I just say a couple of people I know had five minute visits with a bulk bill GP and walked out with ‘mental health plans’

    They’re handed out like boiled lollies.

    Trying to talk up Noori’s mental health plan, no doubt.

    Let’s cut to the chase.
    Afghanis have the worst record for gaining employment years after arriving … as high as 80% after five years
    So they are on the dole or DSP.
    The DSP pays more.
    Sooo … rock into the GP, spin a story about how the Yanks murdered everyone in your village, sob if he/she asks for details, talk about recurring nightmares and . . Voila .. made in the shade.
    He’s no madder than the average Joe paying tax to prop him up.

  112. C.L.

    Politico is now reporting that a top FBI official is linked to the reporter who broke the Trump dossier story.

    Wow.

    House Republicans are investigating contact between the FBI’s top lawyer and a Mother Jones reporter in the weeks before the left-leaning outlet broke the first news story about the existence of a disputed dossier alleging ties between President Donald Trump and the Kremlin, according to two congressional GOP sources who described documents linking the two men.

    The GOP sources said the documents — made available recently to lawmakers by the Department of Justice — revealed that James Baker, the FBI’s general counsel, communicated with Mother Jones reporter David Corn in the weeks leading up to the November 2016 election. Corn was the first to report the existence of the dossier on Oct. 31 and that it was compiled by a former high-level western spy.

    The Washington Post reported Thursday that Baker had been reassigned within the FBI, though the reason for the move was unclear.

    This is undoubtedly the biggest scandal in US history.

  113. struth

    Did you see my post at 2031?

    Yes and totally agree.
    I understand Memoryvault’s frustration, I think we all share it, but you have to work with what you have.
    You said it more eloquently than I .
    Thank you.

  114. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    British teacher sparks major security alert at Moscow airport after trying to check in for flight to London with a ‘military training hand grenade’ in her luggage

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5208145/Brit-woman-causes-Moscow-security-alert-fake-grenade.html#ixzz524yAK881
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

    Some people really do insist on adding new dimensions to the word “fvckwit”, don’t they?

  115. struth

    If you come from a line of interbreeding monobrow dribblers, you may experience some mental illness.

  116. notafan

    LL

    Not to mention a lot of those Afghanis are masquerading Pakistanis.

    Much coaching goes on

  117. Kim Howard

    memoryvault
    #2592377, posted on December 23, 2017 at 5:31 pm

    What part of if enough people vote for a right wing party then they get the seat, and the liberals don’t, do you not get?
    Arky
    #2592327, posted on December 23, 2017 at 3:49 pm

    The Arky – Struth Election Strategy

    MV Struth and Arky all three of you are right !

    Stop arguing and create the solution .
    In my electorate for example I would vote normally for a Liberal Government however I cannot in its present Guise , my options are either the Labor/Green Coalition an Independent that might be a Okey dokey shott or Windsor shiv , with MW option I vote none of , with Struth and Arky`s option I vote none of as I have no other option .
    In other electorates were ACP and other party`s are available then Struth and Arky are right also .
    So just fix it with solutions .
    with the senate it should be one senator to every half million people , that would fix the communist Victoria , Tasmania , South Australia monopoly on the senate , three money grubbing states that weild more power than they deserve , 36 senators almost always Labor/Greens Coalition picking off NSW , QLD and WA aided by ACT and NT .
    If you don`t fix that you don`t fix anything !
    Merry Christmas to all the Cats .

  118. Boambee John

    CL at 2134

    This is undoubtedly the biggest scandal in US history.

    No, no, no! Haven’t you been following m0nty’s erudite and considered posts on Wussiagate. That is far bigger than Watergate and nothing else can ever come close to it.

    Minor details like using the IRS to target political enemies, or using the intelligence community to spy on political candidates are nothing on the scale of Wusdiagate! Sarc, of course.

  119. Snoopy

    Politico is now reporting

    The new news media; Politico, The Daily Caller etc are wiping the floor with the MSM whose journalists still think their future lies in mindlessly propping up the DNC.

  120. Infidel Tiger

    This is undoubtedly the biggest scandal in US history.

    Keep up. Trump drank a glass of water with 2 hands.

  121. C.L.

    Dear oh dear.

    Turns out one of the vehicles wrecked by that trailer-less semi in the streets of Sydney’s inner-west the other night was an SHM journalist Anthony Dennis.

    He’s very angry with the “the low-life hit-and-run truckie.”

    Come come, Ant. The driver may have a mental health plan. Don’t be so intolerant, dude.

  122. cynical1

    Also Kennet pointing out that drug induced mental illness should never be accepted as an excuse for a crime is true.

    It doesn’t work for druggies committing a burglary to feed their habit, why on earth would it for deliberately running down innocents to avenge alleged injustice to Muslims?

    Because it excuses Islam.

  123. C.L.

    Turns out one of the vehicles wrecked by that trailer-less semi in the streets of Sydney’s inner-west the other night was OWNED BY SHM journalist Anthony Dennis.

  124. Infidel Tiger

    Half the truckers in Australia now are third worlders who have done their driving courses at third world owned shops. Fills you with great confidence.

  125. Leigh Lowe

    Snoopy

    #2592494, posted on December 23, 2017 at 9:08 pm

    Though a Marist poll finds that almost 60 percent of Americans like “Merry Christmas” more than “Happy Holidays,” the Chicago Tribune reports that another study shows that “Merry Christmas” is now a political declaration:

    Damn straight.

    Just like the story at Bolt a few days ago about the Green pollies scrubbing “Christmas” from a banner and adding “Festive Season”.
    When challenged they respond with “lighten up… just a bit of fun.”
    Yeah, right.
    Call me back when you start taking the piss out of Ramadan, you xunts.

  126. Infidel Tiger

    You boomers voted for open borders. And yet you whine about millenials not getting good jobs and buying houses when they are in a race to the bottom with third worlders

    Call me a boomer again xunt and I’ll track you down and punch you in the dick until your hair bleeds.

  127. Boambee John

    Charles at 2207

    You boomers voted for open borders.

    Not this one!

  128. Snoopy

    You boomers voted for open borders

    When was this Chiller? Open borders is like SSM. Stronger support from younger voters. Don’t like open borders? Snot a hipster.

  129. Aussieute

    You literally couldn’t make this up.
    The Long Island Iced Tea Corp. (Symbol: LTEA) just changed their name to Long Blockchain Corp.
    Since the name change the stock is up over +250% pre-market.
    A fool and his money can be parted.

  130. Boambee John

    Kim Howard at 2141

    with the senate it should be one senator to every half million people

    I think a minimum of six per original state is in the Constitution. Since there are thre deadbeat states, changing that is not on.

    However, Parliament sets the Senate voting system. Divide each state into a “metroploitan” and a “regional” Senate electorate, each electing six (three each half senate election). This might get more non-metro senators, with less entrenched “inner city” opinions?

  131. Snoopy

    Has Dr BeauGan been about?

  132. Infidel Tiger

    It was the Boomers favourite son John Howard who destroyed the country by opening the flood gates.

    The worst PM in this nation’s history.

  133. John Constantine

    The truck steerer training scam churns out truck steering wheel holders straight from the doom soaked roads of the third world.

    Big training gets bonus payments, big truck firms get bonus payments, big union gets more members.

    The big State hounds stale pale male owner truck drivers off the road with compliance paperwork and safe truck regulations. Big political donors like big truck companies, unions and trainers get the windfall.

    Automatic transmission trucks just means select D for death and push your foot flat, the robot gearbox does the rest. Big truck firms have old blokes that can back trucks at the departure depot and the arrival depot.

    Apex predators in trucks just have to push their foot down and steer forwards. Non English writers don’t even have to fill out the work diaries that plague owner drivers.

    Diversity is our strength.

    Comrades.

  134. Kim Howard

    notafan
    #2592405, posted on December 23, 2017 at 6:35 pm

    He lay in wait

    mum, who speaks little English

    Were is the Dad ?
    Multiple choice question
    a ) at a mosque
    b ) with his other wives
    c ) deceased due to explody activities
    d ) working in Australian Customs at local Airport
    e ) Pilot on stay over in Dubai
    f ) on disability an unable to travel
    g ) compromised as an employee of ASIO
    h ) at the UN sucking ASS for Turnbull/Bishop and the Shorten Coalition

  135. cynical1

    Another trick from the MSM.

    “Australian citizen of Afghani descent”.

    Implies that in the past, he had Afghani ancestry.

    He fucking arrived in 2004.

    He is an Afghan, who probably got citizenship with his DSP paperwork.

  136. Nick

    Yes Snoopy, he was here Yesterday.
    Where’s Ms. Doolittle ? Haven’t seen her in ages.

  137. Steve trickler.

    Go Richard.

    It’s enough to make a B.L.M activist EXPLODE!

    ((:


  138. sdfc

    with the senate it should be one senator to every half million people

    No. Fuck off.

  139. Kim Howard

    Delta A
    #2592447, posted on December 23, 2017 at 7:29 pm

    Christmas Gift Wrapping Simplified.
    1) – Buy a Gift Voucher and a suitable card for everyone on your list.

    Delta a long held tradition in my family is just cash in a Christmas card to siblings and recommended toys to grand children .
    Cash is king and vouchers always come with expiry dates , and other shortfalls .
    Merry Christmas .

  140. So, it appears we have a consensus of opinion on how to bring about political change in Australia.

    That consensus is that everybody just go on voting Liberal coz at least they’re not Labor, either directly, or via preferences, just like everybody has done for the past fifty years, and somehow “conservative” conservatives will magically win enough seats in the HoR to form government and fix everything. That about cover it? Good. Then there’s no need/point in discussing it further.

  141. Leo G

    It was the Boomers favourite son John Howard who destroyed the country by opening the flood gates.

    The “flood gates” are represented by the number of temporary visas issued each year (now more than a half-million I believe) and the number of those who subsequently remain (now about half). The problem is not the high number of arrivals with permanent visas.
    John Howard was certainly not my favourite PM, but I don’t believe he is responsible for the present migrant fiasco.

  142. Infidel Tiger

    with the senate it should be one senator to every half million people

    Absolutely not. The senate is not designed to be proportionally representative. If it was, NSW could make Sodomy compulsory.

    It must get back to being a States house and party lines voting banned.

  143. zyconoclast

    Court upholds $290,000 council payout for mother who broke leg at daughter’s concert

    The failure by a council to provide umbrella bagging facilities and coat storage has cost it almost $300,000 in damages, after a mother slipped and broke her ankle on a wet floor while attending her daughter’s dance eisteddfod.

  144. Leigh Lowe

    Aussieute

    #2592538, posted on December 23, 2017 at 10:15 pm

    You literally couldn’t make this up.
    The Long Island Iced Tea Corp. (Symbol: LTEA) just changed their name to Long Blockchain Corp.
    Since the name change the stock is up over +250% pre-market.
    A fool and his money can be parted

    The more things change the more they stay the same.
    Back in 1999 I worked for a manufacturing company called, lets say for the sake of the story, “ABC Metals Pty Ltd” (an ASX listed company).
    A couple of wankers came up with the idea that we should change our name to abc.com … complete with lower case cool.
    No change to anything else… just add “.com”
    I laughed.
    But here’s the thing.
    The idea flew at management level and even got informally floated at board level until an adult arrived and killed it off.

  145. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    You boomers voted for open borders. And yet you whine about millenials not getting good jobs and buying houses when they are in a race to the bottom with third worlders

    Never this side of fvcking Hell.

  146. nemkat

    So, it appears we have a consensus of opinion on how to bring about political change in Australia.
    We don’t need any consensus.
    The ALP is dying, and nothing you type on this blog can bring it back.

  147. Snoopy

    t was the Boomers favourite son John Howard who destroyed the country by opening the flood gates.

    Hawke’s annual intakes over 1986-1991 were greater than Howard’s annual intakes over 1996-2005. Per capita I doubt Howard’s intake for 2005-6 exceeded Hawke’s worst.
    https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Parliamentary_Departments/Parliamentary_Library/pubs/rp/rp1617/Quick_Guides/MigrationStatistics#_Table_1:_Permanent

    Then the Gen Xers and Gen Whys? decided to stick it to the man and vote for Rudd…..

  148. The ALP is dying, and nothing you type on this blog can bring it back.

    ???????????????????

  149. squawkbox

    I think I will change my name to Squawkblockchain. Who knows what wonderful things might happen.

  150. Mark A

    Kim Howard
    #2592552, posted on December 23, 2017 at 10:39 pm

    Delta a long held tradition in my family is just cash in a Christmas card to siblings and recommended toys to grand children .
    Cash is king and vouchers always come with expiry dates , and other shortfalls .
    Merry Christmas .

    Only my sister gets a gift card, ever. A Bunnings one, she is a keen gardener and makes good use of it.
    Cash only for teens we don’t know what to give. The rest? Some useless but interesting nick-knacks.

    Lets face it how do you give someone a useful present other than your spouse? (other than wedding)
    If they need something they already got it.

  151. Oh come on

    That is a really bizarre horse you’re flogging, nemkat. All this nonsense about the ALP being a dying party that you wheel out every chance you get. I don’t know what your motivation is but you aren’t to be trusted.

  152. squawkbox

    I have found that Scotch and gin never fail as Christmas presents. So many varieties.

  153. Oh come on

    The ALP is dying, and nothing you type on this blog can bring it back.

    Nemkat has pushed this line repeatedly, apropos of not very much. He has an agenda to push.

    Look, even if it were true, it wouldn’t bear repeating as frequently as nemkat does. Not an honest broker, not by a long chalk.

  154. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    It must get back to being a States house and party lines voting banned.

    Somebody be good enough to explain to me how the Yanks need two Senators for each State, and Australia needs twelve? From memory, the Constitution provided for six?

  155. Infidel Tiger

    Nemkat has pushed this line repeatedly, apropos of not very much. He has an agenda to push.

    Look, even if it were true, it wouldn’t bear repeating as frequently as nemkat does. Not an honest broker, not by a long chalk.

    Yeah. Smells more than Roquefort left in your cricket bag for a summer.

  156. squawkbox

    Somebody be good enough to explain to me how the Yanks need two Senators for each State, and Australia needs twelve? From memory, the Constitution provided for six?

    Entertainment value. Just think of life without Jackie Lambie.

  157. Kim Howard

    Boambee John
    #2592540, posted on December 23, 2017 at 10:18 pm

    Kim Howard at 2141

    with the senate it should be one senator to every half million people

    I think a minimum of six per original state is in the Constitution. Since there are thre deadbeat states, changing that is not on.

    However, Parliament sets the Senate voting system. Divide each state into a “metroploitan” and a “regional” Senate electorate, each electing six (three each half senate election). This might get more non-metro senators, with less entrenched “inner city” opinions?

    Respectfully Boambee I disagree all 5 states should have a senator for each 500.000 peoples , the Island of Tasmania should be classified as that , the Territories should be removed and the Capital of Australia should be Sydney an any politician in Australia who backs the the UN should be dismissed under section 44

  158. Infidel Tiger

    The more things change the more they stay the same.
    Back in 1999 I worked for a manufacturing company called, lets say for the sake of the story, “ABC Metals Pty Ltd” (an ASX listed company).
    A couple of wankers came up with the idea that we should change our name to abc.com … complete with lower case cool.
    No change to anything else… just add “.com”
    I laughed.
    But here’s the thing.
    The idea flew at management level and even got informally floated at board level until an adult arrived and killed it off.

    Sounds like all the small cap mining stocks who became dot com darlings and are now lithium plays.

  159. nemkat

    Howard was the PM that took away Australians right to own firearms.
    As well as giving the ALP a new lease on life, it directly led to the problems now being discussed.

  160. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I have found that Scotch and gin never fail as Christmas presents. So many varieties.

    The first Christmas I passed as a single man, after the divorce from Hell, my family rallied to the cause. They knew I liked good Scotch, and reading. I got nine bottles of Scotch, and five good books. I may have drawn a sober breath sometime before the New Year..

  161. Oh come on

    Then the Gen Xers and Gen Whys? decided to stick it to the man and vote for Rudd…..

    Yeah nah I don’t think so. I don’t think Boomers were significantly less enthused about Rudd than anyone else bar first time baby voters who would have disproportionately voted green or red. They can be forgiven due to their tender years, however.

  162. zyconoclast

    I have only just seen this “old” news.

    Building and buyouts: full cost of Snowy Hydro expansion could hit nearly $12 billion
    Bevan Shields
    Published: December 21 2017 – 4:12PM

    The full cost of Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull’s Snowy Hydro expansion could hit nearly $12 billion by the time the project is built and the federal government negotiates a buyout of NSW and Victoria’s stake in the scheme.

    But the cost blowout, revealed in a new feasibility study, has failed to dampen the Coalition’s enthusiasm, with Environment and Energy Minister Josh Frydenberg on Thursday promising the technically challenging undertaking “will go ahead and Australians will be better off for it”.

    The study found the project was viable and could be switched on within seven years, contributing enough new electricity to power hundreds of thousands of homes and businesses as Australia’s energy network transitions from coal to renewables.

    However Snowy Hydro Limited refused to release three key chapters of the study covering commercial projections, business modelling and detailed cost estimates, citing commercial sensitivities.

    The decision infuriated Labor, which said the public had a right to scrutinise the fundamentals of the project and its potential impact on household power bills.

    Snowy Hydro Limited chief executive officer Paul Broad defended the exclusions but said he hoped to release one element – modelling of the benefits of pumped hydro over new battery and gas technology – in the new year.

    Mr Broad agreed the project was “expensive, but it stacks up economically”.

    It carried an initial price tag of $2 billion but the unexpectedly complex geology of the area has contributed to the cost rising as high as $4.5 billion. Another $2 billion would be needed to build new transmission lines to get the extra power to the grid.

    The focus has now shifted from whether it can be built to the politics of how it will be paid for. Snowy Hydro Limited is part-owned by the NSW and Victorian governments, the latter of which has said it wants nothing to do with the expansion.

    Mr Turnbull is prepared to buy the states out, which based on recent valuations would see NSW receive about $3.5 billion and Victoria $1.75 billion.

    Fairfax Media understands the $5.25 billion needed to fund the takeover would be added to the nation’s gross debt, although the Commonwealth would enjoy full ownership of a lucrative asset.

    The cost of the line upgrades would be borne by distributors and customers.

    Snowy Hydro has said it can fund the construction through savings and borrowings, and is predicting an 8 per cent return on investment, meaning the project will ultimately pay for itself.

    It means the total cost of the buyout, construction and new transmission lines associated with Snowy 2.0 could hit $11.75 billion.

    Victorian Labor Treasurer Tim Pallas said his state did not want to be part of the Snowy expansion as a shareholder but would only sell in unison with NSW.

    “As we’ve always said, repeatedly, we’re not fans of Snowy Hydro 2.0,” Mr Pallas said.

    NSW would only say it was still “in discussions” over selling its stake.

    Both states have baulked at a condition from the federal government that the proceeds can only be spent on “priority infrastructure projects”.

    Mr Frydenberg said the costs of not proceeding with the Snowy expansion were greater than going ahead.

    “It’s clear from the feasibility study that if Snowy 2.0 didn’t go ahead, then the costs would be much greater to Australian families because what would be needed to stabilise the system is more expensive diesel – more polluting diesel – and gas-fired generators. This is a renewables project, the largest of its kind of the Southern Hemisphere that will lead to lower prices and a more stable system.”

    Pumped hydro works like a giant battery by using electricity during times of low demand – often in the middle of the night – to push water uphill so that when demand is high it can be released downhill through turbines to create quick and reliable electricity.

    The expansion would increase generation capacity by 2000 megawatts – a 50 per cent increase on the existing scheme’s generation capacity

    Energy economist Bruce Mountain, of consultancy CME, pointed to a finding in the feasibility study that found Snowy 2.0 has a so-called “round trip efficiency” of only 67 per cent.

    “For each unit of electricity that they draw to pump water to the upper reservoir, they only produce 0.67 units – the rest is lost in pumping and production frictions,” he said.

    “There’s no doubt that, economically, this thing doesn’t stack up.”

    The Snowy Hydro Board will make a final investment decision in 2018.

    So, who still wants Friedeggburger in parliament because his mum ate his citzenship papers.
    He is a disgrace.

  163. zyconoclast

    I think we could build 2 x 1000MW HELE coal fired power plants for $12B.

  164. Somebody be good enough to explain to me how the Yanks need two Senators for each State, and Australia needs twelve? From memory, the Constitution provided for six?

    Initially it was an incredibly obtuse and inefficient way of maintaining a 2:1 ratio of importance between the HoR, which represents the people, and the Senate, which represents the states. As it turns out it has rarely been used, and could just as easily be replaced by two Senators per state, as per the U.S. However, that would require a referendum. Remember, it was implemented at a time when these bozos weren’t actually paid, merely refunded their expenses.

  165. DrBeauGan

    Snoopy
    #2592541, posted on December 23, 2017 at 10:18 pm
    Has Dr BeauGan been about?

    Intermittently, Snoopy.

  166. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Howard was the PM that took away Australians right to own firearms.

    Bullshit. I went into that circus with two high powered rifles, a pump action shotgun and a .22 rifle. I never lost a single firearm – all legal, all licensed.

  167. Makka

    You boomers voted for open borders.

    Bullshit.

  168. Mark A

    A battle not many have heard of, how times change, today, we let captives rot or killed.

  169. nemkat

    No bullshit about it.
    If you go from being able to freely purchase firearms to a regime of asking permission and getting registered, you’ve lost the right you once had.

  170. cohenite

    zyconoclast

    #2592575, posted on December 23, 2017 at 11:14 pm

    I have only just seen this “old” news.

    Building and buyouts: full cost of Snowy Hydro expansion could hit nearly $12 billion
    Bevan Shields
    Published: December 21 2017 – 4:12PM

    There is already large pump hydro capacity in Tumut dam of the Snowy; it has never been used because to pump the water takes 25% more electricity than is generated by the water’s release. Turdball is either a monumental idiot or he must have some skin in the game.

  171. You boomers voted for open borders.
    Bullshit.

    In my lifetime, no aspect of Australia’s ongoing immigration policy has ever been part of any election campaign or platform. Mere Aussies have never been allowed a say in the matter at the polls.

  172. Kim Howard

    memoryvault
    #2592577, posted on December 23, 2017 at 11:16 pm

    Somebody be good enough to explain to me how the Yanks need two Senators for each State, and Australia needs twelve? From memory, the Constitution provided for six?

    Initially it was an incredibly obtuse and inefficient way of maintaining a 2:1 ratio of importance between the HoR, which represents the people, and the Senate, which represents the states. As it turns out it has rarely been used, and could just as easily be replaced by two Senators per state, as per the U.S. However, that would require a referendum. Remember, it was implemented at a time when these bozos weren’t actually paid, merely refunded their expenses.

    Hard to get a debate going on this forum about the senate distribution its like the wuckers from NSW , QLD and WA like their ass spanked by VIC , SA and that tiny Island Tasmania .
    Guess Ignorance is bliss !

  173. Turdball is either a monumental idiot or he must have some skin in the game.

    The two possibilities are not mutually exclusive.

  174. Oh come on

    I think we could build 2 x 1000MW HELE coal fired power plants for $12B.

    Did you mean $1.2B for 2 plants or $12B for 20 plants?

  175. cohenite

    Did you mean $1.2B for 2 plants or $12B for 20 plants?

    About $3 billion per plant for 2000 MW each
    .

  176. Mark A

    cohenite
    #2592583, posted on December 23, 2017 at 11:27 pm

    There is already large pump hydro capacity in Tumut dam of the Snowy; it has never been used because to pump the water takes 25% more electricity than is generated by the water’s release. Turdball is either a monumental idiot or he must have some skin in the game.

    In theory I see no problem with the scheme. It all depends on available surplus energy that is created by necessity, ie spinning reserve of coal or unused wind or solar.

    Unfortunately, none of it is feasible at this stage. No coal fired excess and renewables are just not there in a reliable way.

  177. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    A battle not many have heard of, how times change, today, we let captives rot or killed.

    My compliments, and thanks for that link. The whole organization of that expedition was a brilliant piece of Staff work.

  178. max

    That Chip le Grande story on Doyle had a well-aimed barb: Doyle in rhapsodies about the veal at his favourite restaurant where he feasted in marathon sessions. His wife, asked her opinion, replied: “I don’t know. I’ve never been there.” First wife that is.

    Doyle knows the game well and the article hinted at forces being marshalled. He’ll see it as a chessboard battle with the Greens who will get control if he resigns. Cavaliers vse Roundheads.

  179. Oh come on

    Oh great so we’re only paying 400% more for pumped hydro which may or may not work. Bargain!

  180. Oh come on

    This nation building stuff is so much more satisfying when we’re paying exorbitant amounts for unproven technology. Hey, whatever happened to fuel cells? The hydrogen economy? That was a great idea. Like LPG but a lot more explosive and difficult to store. Not enough visionary politicians, I guess that was the problem.

  181. And how the hell do the police know the Murderous Muslim was on Ice at the time anyway?

    Say, what?

    They determined that before they got to the scene, the moment it was suspected it could be a terrorist, because political narratives are more important than the welfare of citizens.

  182. Howard was the PM that took away Australians right to own firearms.

    Close. He’s certainly made it hard.
    He deserves boiling in oil for what he did.
    Not Australia’s finest hour.

  183. Leigh Lowe

    Lets face it how do you give someone a useful present other than your spouse? (other than wedding)
    If they need something they already got it.

    Books.
    Solid present for kids and nearly as flat as cash.
    Plastic toys take up space.
    Books.
    But avoid Mem Fox and Bandana Man.

  184. zyconoclast

    Turdball is either a monumental idiot or he must have some skin in the game.

    Both.

  185. zyconoclast

    I think we could build 2 x 1000MW HELE coal fired power plants for $12B.

    Did you mean $1.2B for 2 plants or $12B for 20 plants?

    My calculation error.

  186. zyconoclast

    This nation building stuff is so much more satisfying when we’re paying exorbitant amounts for unproven technology. Hey, whatever happened to fuel cells? The hydrogen economy? That was a great idea. Like LPG but a lot more explosive and difficult to store. Not enough visionary politicians, I guess that was the problem.

    Hydrogen: the net-negative energy option

    The same people who promoted intermittent energy (wind and solar) have trumped that with their latest green energy fad – hydrogen fuel.

    Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe; it fuels the sun and is the third most common element on Earth. But it is so reactive that it is seldom found in its elemental state – it combines strongly with other elements such as oxygen to form water or carbon to form methane. It is an essential component in all acids, alkalis, hydro-carbons, and organic materials.

    To extract hydrogen from natural compounds such as water, methane, or coal requires very large inputs of energy. Most commonly, hydrogen is produced from methane gas using heat and steam, or by electrolysis of water using large quantities of electricity.

    Hydrogen can be used to power rockets, cars, and engines of all types. However, the energy used to produce the hydrogen can never be fully recovered from the energy in the hydrogen. It is thus not a source of energy. It is merely a storehouse for energy – a battery.

    It is possible to produce hydrogen from water using electricity from nuclear or hydro-carbon fuels, or even intermittent green energy. The hydrogen gas could then be transported to cities as a clean energy source for cars, thus reducing pollution from gas/diesel vehicles.

    But hydrogen is a very dangerous gas. It has tiny lightweight molecules with low energy density that are difficult to compress, contain, and store. It also forms a very explosive mixture with air. To provide a network of hydrogen car-fueling stations, or to suggest hydrogen as a domestic gas, is inviting explosive disasters in the suburbs. (Imagine the Health and Safety regulations!)

    Even the impractical electric cars have benefits compared to the hydrogen car. Electricity is safer, and the supply network is easier and essentially in place. Moreover, electric cars do not reduce the oxygen content of city air – every tonne of hydrogen fuel consumes eight tonnes of oxygen to produce nine tonnes of water vapor. So instead of urban smog, we may get urban fog.

    And to suggest that hydrogen can provide base-load power tops all green energy idiocy.

    Hydrogen is a net-negative energy option.

  187. egg_

    Unfortunately, none of it is feasible at this stage. No coal fired excess and renewables are just not there in a reliable way.

    The knub of the problem, regardless of storage media – there are proposals for co-location of HELE and pumped storage – e.g. disused mining site dam(s) in Qld.

  188. zyconoclast

    Mark A
    #2592581, posted on December 23, 2017 at 11:24 pm
    A battle not many have heard of, how times change, today, we let captives rot or killed.

    “Never Give Way to Barbarians” The British Abyssinian Expedition of 1868: A Matter of Honor

    Closest thing to a modern day equivalent?
    A War for Lost Glory – The Falklands War, 1982

  189. Steve trickler.

    Snowy 2.0.

    Malcolm was perhaps..??… inspired by the picture.

    http://totallyhistory.com/the-waterfall/

  190. Infidel Tiger

    I know it’s a leftist plot to get him out, but God it’s good to see Robert Doyle being fucked over.

    What a mooching, trough licking swine he must be.

  191. zyconoclast

    Shakeup at prominent cannabis lab follows allegations two owners have neo-Nazi ties

    An owner of a state-licensed cannabis testing business in Eugene said she has taken steps to sever ties to her company after local activists alleged she participates in neo-Nazi activites.

    Bethany Sherman, listed in state records as managing member and CEO of OG Analytical, said Wednesday she is stepping down from the company she founded in 2013 and plans to sell the lab.

    In a lengthy written response to Eugene Antifa’s claims that she is associated with white power groups, the Eugene resident denied being a neo-Nazi and said her only “crime is a thought crime.”

    “I find it extremely disconcerting that it is admired and revered to have ‘gay pride,’ ‘black pride,’ ‘Asian pride, or pride in any other cultural heritage, but if you have ‘white pride’ it automatically makes you a Nazi, and you are ostracized, attacked, and lynched by your community,” she wrote in a statement issued to The Oregonian/OregonLive. “I admit, I am proud that I am white, and I’m not ashamed of my heritage. And I admit that I have been so conditioned to feel shame about this pride that I discreetly sought community where I could.

  192. Bruce in WA

    You boomers voted for open borders.

    Come and say that to my face, arsehole, and I’ll happily rearrange your features for you.

  193. Steve trickler.

    Merry Christmas YouTube.

    Crowder runs amok taking the piss. Very clever.



  194. Infidel Tiger

    If you voted for Howard, you voted for open borders and the complete and utter destruction of Australia. Hang your fucking heads in shame, Boomer filth.

  195. Mindfree

    Sorry late to the party

  196. Makka

    Hang your fucking heads in shame, Boomer filth.

    You GenX and Y whingers are the pits. You’ve been whingeing and moaning since you were first asked to rake the lawn.

  197. Mindfree

    And she was only 16 when she wrote this and performed better than the 5th dimension

  198. Infidel Tiger

    Your guilt is crippling you Makka. Prostrate yourself before us and you will find us merciful if you are suitably chastened. You and your generation have been the greatest learners in human history, but know this; you will always have a bosom to lean on with us… as long as you end your xunty, sloth filled, degenerate, selfish ways.

    Much love, the lifters.

  199. Infidel Tiger

    Leaners. Not learners. You turds haven’t learnt shit.

  200. Robber Baron

    Mr Frydenberg said the costs of not proceeding with the Snowy expansion were greater than going ahead.

    I think the costs of not voting out Turnbull Coalition Team were greater than going ahead.

    I think Josh has just stacked another turd on the pile of steaming greens policy shit higher than the Labor party could ever dream doing. He is delivering in spades for green madness.

    Vote this turd out!

  201. Steve trickler.

    I had no idea this existed.

    Gold.

    First Black President (1977)



  202. Tom

    I just love Steve Hayward’s intro:

    Watching the Democrats rend their garments over allowing people to keep more of their own money rather than letting politicians spend it for them recalls the late great political scientist Aaron Wildavsky, who once tallied up the victim classes of liberalism, and calculated that 375 percent of Americans are certified victims! Start with consumers, who Ralph Nader says are all victims, and you begin with 100 percent of the population. Now add in women, and you’re up to 150 percent before you even get to racial minorities, etc. Democrats are saying the tax cut will kill people, but haven’t Republicans already killed off the entire population with the repeal of net neutrality and withdrawal from the Paris Climate Accord? What am I leaving out? I know many Democrats think Americans are zombies, but just how many times can you kill everyone?

    Week In Pictures: Happy Tax Cut Edition.

  203. Tom

    The Matriarchy: Sarah, Meeja Vampire Slayer. Nikki, Queen of the Dictators Club.

  204. feelthebern

    The Melbourne terrorist – or as VicPol describes him, the victim of anglo, male, aggressive jaywalkers – who apparently is of Afghan decent, didn’t speak much English, and spoke Farsi.
    Doesn’t sound very Afghan to me.

    VicPol management is a pack of social justice fucking liars.

  205. Tom

    BREAKING: there’s nothing breaking — POTUS45 hasn’t tweeted anything for 21 hours and there’s a school of thought among POTUS-watchers in Florida that he may even attempt an entire 24 hours without bypassing the MSM. Of more concern is that he won’t reveal his golf score after his round this morning with PGA pros Daniel Berger and Justin Thomas. Obviously he’s withholding it from Bob Mueller. The MSM has demanded that he come clean.

  206. nemkat

    Mr Frydenberg said the costs of not proceeding with the Snowy expansion were greater than going ahead.
    Mr …. said the costs of not proceeding with the Gallipoli Campaign were greater than going ahead.
    Mr ….. said the costs of not proceeding with Medibank were greater than going ahead.
    Mr …….. said the costs of not proceeding with the dismantling of the White Australia Policy were greater than going ahead.
    Etc.

  207. Baldrick

    Week In Pictures: Happy Tax Cut Edition.

    Chuckle, snort
    Thanks Tom.

  208. Gab

    A Christmas Eve smoting by the Doomlord.

    Just don’t know who was smoted. I’m so out of touch these days!

  209. cynical1

    The Melbourne terrorist – or as VicPol describes him, the victim of anglo, male, aggressive jaywalkers – who apparently is of Afghan decent, didn’t speak much English, and spoke Farsi.
    Doesn’t sound very Afghan to me.

    That’s because he is Australian.

  210. Baldrick

    Mmmyes … the logic:
    .
    Mr Frydenberg said the costs of not proceeding with the Snowy expansion NBN were greater than going ahead.
    .
    Mr Frydenberg said the costs of not proceeding with the Snowy expansion Gonski 2.0 were greater than going ahead.
    .
    Mr Frydenberg said the costs of not proceeding with the Snowy expansion NDIS were greater than going ahead.

  211. Boambee John

    Zulu at 2305

    From memory, the Constitution provided for six?

    There is also a provision (which might not be in the Constitution) that the number of Senators should be as close as possible to half the number of MHRs.

    Either break this nexus, increase the number of states, or reduce the numbrr of MHRs to fix.

  212. johanna

    Re last night’s discussion about the number of senators we have vs the number in the US (2 per State) it should be remembered that the two per State model is one of the main things that has entrenched the two party system in the US. In the majority of States the outcome is one from each party, every time. There is very little chance of a viable third or fourth or fifth party ever emerging in this context. And that is why US parties are as sclerotic and detached from voters as they are.

    Ours are bad enough, but at least we have the Nats and a gaggle of small parties and independents with at least a shot at getting into the Senate and forcing the majors to pay attention. Small parties and independents have also on occasion won seats in State and Territory lower houses, including 10 in Queensland a while back, and it looks like Xylophone’s lot are giving the majors plenty of angst in SA.

    In the US, the prospect of breaking the duopoly is remote, which is why Trump is so important. He is truly a RINO gave the current state of the disgraceful bunch of time servers, wimps and crooks that comprise the Republican Party. Even those who are playing nice with him at the moment because he’s on a roll would stab him in a heartbeat and get back to business as usual if it suited them.

    If we were to reduce the number of Senators per jurisdiction, it should be to an odd number, IMO, so that the majors don’t just divide the seats up between them.

  213. calli

    Who got fried? I was only away at Powerline momentarily!

  214. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Vicki’s link at 4.46pm (re-posted by Mater). Theodore Dalrymple at his best:

    Where all conduct, all custom, has a religious sanction and justification, any change is a threat to the whole system of belief. Certainty that their way of life is the right one thus coexists with fear that the whole edifice—intellectual and political—will come tumbling down if it is tampered with in any way. Intransigence is a defense against doubt and makes living on terms of true equality with others who do not share the creed impossible.

    Really well written, although not suitable for Johanna who has declared her dislike of longer sentences and a developed vocabulary. Dalrymple offers a thoughtful appreciation of the issue of Islamic rigidities, discussing how Islamic beliefs differ to the theologies of other world religions.

  215. nemkat

    Casual Senate vacancies still have to be voted on by the State Legislative Assembly, so i’m guessing that originally, Senators were appointed by the States.

  216. W Hogg

    Greens used to crap on about storage right up until the moment Green Mal mentioned it didn’t they?

  217. Who got fried? I was only away at Powerline momentarily!

    My thoughts eggzackerly.

  218. Tom

    Calli, I believe it may have been the previously-smote Kitteh stalker. We’ll know in time.

  219. Mater

    OWG!
    Are you still out there?

  220. Casual Senate vacancies still have to be voted on by the State Legislative Assembly, so i’m guessing that originally, Senators were appointed by the States.

    Technically, Senators are appointed by State Governor, on the advice of the State Parliament.

  221. calli

    The one that chipped me for not being sweary enough like other Christians they know? Pretty harmless stuff really.

    Unless it was IT for making death threats against Boomers. Snork!

  222. entropy

    I was going to disagree with you, Johanna. I was of the opinion two senators from each state enough. But I can see your point about party power overcome by an odd number and I think it could be a reasonable solution. Three senators max. Maybe couple with allowing only one nomination from each party or individual?
    There is a real need to greatly reduce the number of senators.
    In the current system the disparity between voting power of Tasmania and NSW is obscene. Let’s dial it back a lot.

  223. Baldrick

    Calli, I believe it may have been the previously-smote Kitteh stalker. We’ll know in time.

    See, Santa is real, if true.

  224. johanna

    Really well written, although not suitable for Johanna who has declared her dislike of longer sentences and a developed vocabulary.

    No, I declared my dislike of verbose, pompous and pretentious windbaggery, Lizzie. You know, the stuff beloved of pseudo-intellectuals who substitute word count for clarity.

    Not that I had anyone in mind, of course. 😉

  225. Boambee John

    W Hogg at 0745

    The Slime are in favour of many things until they look like happening, then, suddenly, a bunch of “environmental” problems arise.

    What is it with Snowy Hydro and previously unknown geologicsl problems? Didn’t they investigate the geology when building the original scheme? Or did someone throw the old records away?

  226. Geriatric Mayfly

    There is already large pump hydro capacity in Tumut dam of the Snowy; it has never been used

    Just to be a technical pedant, this is news to me. Wherever in the scheme excess water aggregates it is diverted to Lake Eucumbene which is simply a large holding basin. Any high discharge into Tumut dam is fed by gravity into Eucumbene through a two way tunnel, or else sent downstream through the turbines. If levels in Tumut dam fall, they are then topped up via said tunnel. I cannot see the need for pumps.

  227. Bruce of Newcastle

    More smiting: I include these two stories especially for Trump-impeached-any-day-now M0nty.

    FBI Fires Suspected Leaker And Comey Ally James Baker

    And even bigger:

    FBI Deputy Director McCabe “Retiring” After “Trump Insurance Policy” Debacle

    Some nice trolling of McCabe by the Trumpster in that story, via his favourite social media weapon. 😀

  228. Allergy

    Who got fried? I was only away at Powerline momentarily!

    There was a poster up-thread who was agreeing with IT. Seems to be missing now – smoted?

  229. calli

    Must have been Charles at 2207. He’s MIA on the scroll-back.

  230. Tom

    Dalrymple offers a thoughtful appreciation of the issue of Islamic rigidities, discussing how Islamic beliefs differ to the theologies of other world religions.

    A splendidly written explanation of why Islam* can’t survive the modern world.

    * To many scholars, Islam was a poorly crafted imitation of Christianity authored by a bloodythirsty, primitive savage — a bit like L. Ron Hubbard’s scientology, which was little more than a satire of religion.

  231. Peter Castieau

    All this SSM and gender theory rubbish is affecting the natural order of things around here. Just lying in bed and one of my hens just crowed like a rooster “cockle doodle do”

    Seriously!

  232. Knuckle Dragger

    Flew down to Melbourne for Christmas with the family.

    Been here 36 hours. Haven’t been run over yet, but will provide updates as required.

    Slightly different weather from what I’ve become accustomed to. Frostbite is setting in.

  233. Snoopy

    Yes, Charles 2207 is gone. Apparently calling IT a Boomer is a smiting offence. 😀

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