Open Forum: December 23, 2017

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  1. old bloke

    Anne
    #2593193, posted on December 24, 2017 at 7:12 pm

    Isn’t Mithra the pagan androgynous god/dess that the Statue of Liberty was modelled after?

    Nope, the Statue of Liberty was modelled on the Roman “godess” Libertas. Libertas was known by many names to many older cultures. She was Inanna to the Akkadians, Ishtar to the Babylonians, Isis to the Egyptians, Ashtoreth to the [email protected]@ws, and Aphrodite to the Greeks.

    Ishtar’s temple in ancient Babylon was on par with Baal, and her temple priestesses were called Harlots, which is where we inherited that name. People would go to her temple and pay the Harlots for sex, and they received forgiveness for their sin by engaging in the sex act (or with the priests if that was your inclination). It is to Ishtar (or Libertas, or the “Goddess Liberty”) to whom John referred in The Revelation as the Mother of Whores, that was the title by which she was known in ancient times.

    Her theology was simple, “if it feels good, do it”.

  2. Arky

    My phone just got hacked.
    I didn’t write that last post.

  3. Top Ender

    We rarely see cyclones up here in November/December.

    Typically the BOM forecasts six to eight, and we get two to three.

  4. stackja

    3 Godfathers

    At Christmastime in the Old West

  5. Anne

    Anne, It’s A Wonderful Life is communist propaganda.

    What? How do you figure that?

    I think it perfectly demonstrates how a corrupt Godless, Globalist (Potter) takeover of Society leads to debauchery, poverty and despair. The idea that the lives of others could be so dramatically affected by the character and good deeds of one individual is interesting to ponder.

    Makes you want to be a better man, yeah?

  6. Infidel Tiger

    You’ve got Potter all wrong. He’s the only moral man in the whole show.

  7. one old bruce

    Sound of Music – I used to spend Christmas with a lovely family of Indian Christians from Calcutta (where in the 1960s the soundtrack to that movie was played at full volume in festivals, before wall to wall Bollywood took over).

    Anyway the ladies of the family all had page boy haircuts and wore knee-length dresses, I’m sure they modelled their style on Julie Andrews in SOM. I think it had not occurred to them that she was dressed so austerely because she was a nun in the movie.

    These ladies all had lots of children and all have made significant contributions to Australia, one even getting an Australia Day award. Great family, quaint charm. (Don’t see them much now as we moved away).

  8. egg_

    DPRK News Service @DPRK_News Dec 20
    Supreme Leader Kim Jong-Un wins Baking Contest in Pyongyang, consuming 327 baked goods in 4 hours.

  9. classical_hero

    How do we solve a problem like Arky?

  10. stackja

    Infidel Tiger
    #2593259, posted on December 24, 2017 at 8:53 pm

    Clarence Oddbody?

  11. Anne

    It is to Ishtar (or Libertas, or the “Goddess Liberty”) to whom John referred in The Revelation as the Mother of Whores, that was the title by which she was known in ancient times.

    Thanks Old Bloke. That’s really interesting. I always thought that the “woman” referred to in Revelation 17 was the Roman Catholic Church.

    You’ve given me something else to study.

  12. Anne

    When I say “always” I’ve only just read the Bible this year, only once so far, and it took me three months!

  13. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

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    You couldn’t make this shyte up, seriously, could you?

  14. Anne

    You’ve got Potter all wrong. He’s the only moral man in the whole show.

    Yeah, that $8000 he stole was for poor kids in Haiti.

  15. Lethal Weapon is the far superior Christmas film.

    Up after Die Hard.
    Currently at the “ho ho ho now I have a machine gun” moment, but needed a refill.

  16. Infidel Tiger

    You need to investigate Anne. You have been suckered in by communist propaganda.

    Sad. Open your eyes babe.

  17. Anne

    IT, you just like Potter because Violet became a hooker in Potterville.

  18. Infidel Tiger

    I’ve never seen the movie. Never will. It’s evil propaganda beloved by globalist haters.

  19. mizaris

    Any Cats who have ever read the Mitch Rapp books will love this movie.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1961175/

    Watched it earlier today, I’m sure a series will follow.

    Sorry Peter but it’s WOEFUL. Whoever they got to play Mitch Rapp is a complete failure in the role. Just as bad as tom cruise as Jack Reacher.

    OK, the story is quite good (I read it years ago), and a series based on the further novels would be good, but not with the same lead actor.

  20. stackja

    Infidel Tiger
    #2593280, posted on December 24, 2017 at 9:26 pm

    Who told you about Potter? Lionel?

  21. classical_hero

    https://youtu.be/8VfYKmJkxl0

    Oh Holy Night.

    As a side note, Andre Rieu was the last concert I went with my mother. She had been denying what she knew for 8 months.

  22. classical_hero

    Anne, the news is stating that the strange lights were courtesy of Elon Musk, but they must be part of the problem.

  23. old bloke

    Anne
    #2593267, posted on December 24, 2017 at 9:07 pm

    Thanks Old Bloke. That’s really interesting. I always thought that the “woman” referred to in Revelation 17 was the Roman Catholic Church.

    That belief is just some Catholic bashing from some segments in the Protestant world, it has no support in the Bible. I don’t support Catholicism (nor Protestantism) due to my own peculiar beliefs, but the Roman church isn’t the “mystery Babylon” or the “daughter of Babylon” referred to in the Bible.

    I’ll list the identifiers of this mysterious nation in a seperate post later.

  24. Anne

    I’ve never seen the movie. Never will. It’s evil propaganda beloved by globalist haters.

    Scallywag. Don’t see it. It would make you cry and think and stuff.

    There’s enough of that nonsense going on in the world.

  25. Louis

    Helen Dale. The Australian just really don’t care about credibility anymore do they?

  26. Infidel Tiger

    Who told you about Potter? Lionel?

    I read extensively.

  27. egg_

    Mr Frydenberg said the costs of not proceeding with the Snowy expansion were greater than going ahead.

    There was movement at the hydro station, for the word had passed around
    That the clod from old Canberra had gone astray…

  28. Anne

    I’ll list the identifiers of this mysterious nation in a separate post later.

    Keep it saved, Old Bloke. I’ll be back next year.

  29. Infidel Tiger

    Helen Dale. The Australian just really don’t care about credibility anymore do they?

    Exactly. What a xunt of a thing to do. She’s not only an awful writer but she has an agenda of rank ignorance.

    In a better age a decent editor would have prayer for her to atone and to heal her broken ways, but alas we live in the worst time in human history.

  30. Anne

    Anne, the news is stating that the strange lights were courtesy of Elon Musk, but they must be part of the problem.

    By “news” do you mean the MK Ultra mind slaves on the Television, Hero?

    My own theory is: it was Tyler.

  31. Infidel Tiger

    My own theory is: it was Tyler.

    From Aerosmith?

  32. Delta A

    There was movement at the hydro station, for the word had passed around
    That the clod from old Canberra had gone astray…

    …And had joined the mad green forces – he was worth a vote or two
    And all the hacks had gathered for their say.

  33. Infidel Tiger

    Andre Rieu is on Smooth. Wearing a cable knit jumper. In a stable. Patting a goat.

  34. Anne

    …but alas we live in the worst time in human history.

    It seems you don’t read that extensively, IT.

    It was like this before, just before the flood.

  35. Infidel Tiger

    Who’s building the ark, Anne?

  36. Geriatric Mayfly

    Much more expedient and fruitful than these hare brained ideas, would be for Trumbull to apply a deep tan, get Lucy to run up a loin cloth, then paint on his dots, knock out a tooth give him a spear and have him gyrate atop Mt Jagungal doing a rain dance.

  37. Mark A

    Re. Andre Rieu

    I don’t understand why some people are so hostile to him.

    If it comes to music as opposed to popular noise, I’m the snob of snobs, but did you realise that he engages the best of singers and musicians who also perform at the best and most prestigious venues and are members of the best orchestras?

    If you applaud these artists when they perform say at the Berlin Philharmonic, then why not when they perform in his shows?
    Hypocrites much?
    So he is a showman, so what, he puts on spectacular shows and people love it.

  38. egg_

    Watching The Sound of Music.

    I think I’m watching A White Christmas A Black Tranny Christmas on ABC ‘Comedy” – and I don’t think it’s a about a portable wireless.

  39. Anne

    IT, you may recall everybody attacking me a couple of years ago about my concerns over the J A D E Helm exercise.

    Well that Super “Mastering the Human Domain” Control System turned into Strong AI – Tyler.

    Aerosmith. Hahaha…

  40. Anne

    Mark’s here. He can explain Tyler to you, IT. 👍

  41. egg_

    Lethal Weapon is the far superior Christmas film.

    Can’t go past Debbie Does Dallas really.

    Tits stuffing the Christmas turkey – then putting it on the chopping block?

  42. Habib

    Mr Frydenberg said the costs of not proceeding with the Snowy expansion were greater than going ahead. Frydemburgers is a really special kind of stupid, isn’t he? The even more cretinous Australia meeja collective still refer to this marxist mouth breather as “a conservative”.

    The same blithering bumbags who let them get away with the statement that punters wouldn’t cough the 10 bill or so extra, the hydro would pay it. And not pass it on to their captive customers. I believe there must be a brain-eating virus endemic across the planet, centred on Canberra.

  43. Infidel Tiger

    Mr Frydenberg said the costs of not proceeding with the Snowy expansion were greater than going ahead. Frydemburgers is a really special kind of stupid, isn’t he? The even more cretinous Australia meeja collective still refer to this marxist mouth breather as “a conservative”.

    In a righteous world Frydenberg would be washing windows at traffic lights for loose change. He is a disgusting and duplicitous liar who should be gassed.

  44. Leigh Lowe

    Andre Rieu is on Smooth. Wearing a cable knit jumper. In a stable. Patting a goat.

    Heavy patting or just normal patting?

  45. Anne

    Who’s building the ark, Anne?

    It’s going to be a lot worse than flood this time. Men will beg for death and death will flee from them.

    You really should read the Book of Revelation. It’s all in there, a Global Government, a Global Satanic Religion, cryptocurrencies, microchips, tiny drones that can kill or madden.

    It’s a short book but read at least from Chapter 8.

    Read that then go back and watch the Opening Ceremony of the Swiss Gothard Tunnel.

  46. Leigh Lowe

    Andre Rieu is on Smooth. Wearing a cable knit jumper. In a stable. Patting a goat.

    We predicted this!
    Slippery slope!

  47. Infidel Tiger

    You really should read the Book of Revelation. It’s all in there, a Global Government, a Global Satanic Religion, cryptocurrencies, microchips, tiny drones that can kill or madden.

    Can you point me to the verses about crypto currencies? This is useful stuff that needs further airing.

  48. miltonf

    Canberra is an abomination- we would be seriously better off without the federal government. BIRM.

  49. Leigh Lowe

    Has anyonr ever seen Andre Rieu and Kelsey Grammer in the same room together?

  50. JC

    Eggsactly leigh. All I got was grief from Johanna when said I suspected Andy was into goats in an unnatural way.

  51. nemkat

    In a righteous world Frydenberg would be washing windows at traffic lights for loose change
    No.
    Have a little compassion. The man is barely 4 foot 2 inches tall.
    He can’t even reach the windscreen.

  52. Leigh Lowe

    Crypto currencies are represented in Revelations by the Third Horseman.
    The reference appears oblique at first but makes more sense on repeated readings.

  53. Snoopy

    Andre Rieu is a Boomer xunt.

    /IT

  54. Infidel Tiger

    Snoop you might be right. I’ll check.

  55. JC

    Man I love Xmas eve dinner. The seafood binge was wonderful and the dessert to die for. Wifey made a strawberry short cake with a thick cream topping and fruit on top .

  56. Snoopy

    In a righteous world Frydenberg would be washing windows at traffic lights for loose change. He is a disgusting and duplicitous liar who should be gassed.

    True. But let’s face it. He’s got more sense than most Gen Xers.

  57. Anne

    Can you point me to the verses about crypto currencies?

    Sure. Revelation 13:11-18. Half a page. Read it.

    I forgot, the most abhorrent misdeeds are the genetic tampering and transhumanism.

    It’s all in there. Pretty amazing considering it was written 2000 years ago.

  58. Arky

    Who’s building the ark, Anne

    ..
    I am.
    But I’m not taking any goddamn giraffes or penguins this time.

  59. JC

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Andy goes into some sort of trance at one of the Australian concerts and starts pentrating a goat on stage. Imagine the look on the bogan waltzers faces.

  60. Leigh Lowe

    Wifey made a strawberry short cake with a thick cream topping and fruit on top .

    Grammatically ambiguous.
    Did wifey embellish herself with thick cream topping and fruit whilst she was making a strawberry shortcake … or did she make a strawberry shortcake and add cream and fruit to the cake?

  61. Infidel Tiger

    True. But let’s face it. He’s got more sense than most Gen Xers.

    You seem obsessed. Like a boomer latching onto an entitlement. Let it go bro.

  62. Infidel Tiger

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Andy goes into some sort of trance at one of the Australian concerts and starts pentrating a goat on stage. Imagine the look on the bogan waltzers faces.

    The Rieu crowd would join him.

  63. JC

    Grammatically ambiguous.
    Did wifey embellish herself with thick cream topping and fruit whilst she was making a strawberry shortcake … or did she make a strawberry shortcake and add cream and fruit to the cake?

    Oh Yea. To be exact, they were plain small “caklets” or biscuits. Thick cream was pasted on top of them and then came the strawberries and peach strips.

    That better?

    Now let me focus on the Revelations thing.

  64. Leigh Lowe

    Now let me focus on the Revelations thing.

    Don”t.
    Revelations was the work of a Fourth Century paranoid bong smoker.
    It is weird shit.
    I put it down to a mistake at the publishers.

  65. Mark A #2593300, posted on December 24, 2017 at 9:52 pm
    Re. Andre Rieu
    I don’t understand why some people are so hostile to him.
    If it comes to music as opposed to popular noise, I’m the snob of snobs, but did you realise that he engages the best of singers and musicians who also perform at the best and most prestigious venues and are members of the best orchestras?
    If you applaud these artists when they perform say at the Berlin Philharmonic, then why not when they perform in his shows?
    Hypocrites much?
    So he is a showman, so what, he puts on spectacular shows and people love it.

    +400,000

  66. Snoopy

    It looks like snobbery, Mark, but in reality it manifests itself in wannabes whose dreams of stardom crashed when they couldn’t master Smoke on Water.

  67. Leigh Lowe

    Anyone watching Carols by Candlelight?
    What is the has-been count so far?

  68. JC

    Annie

    Here’s the offending para.

    The Second Beast

    11 Then iI saw another beast rising out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb and it spoke like a dragon. 12 It exercises all the authority of the first beast in its presence,3 and makes the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, jwhose mortal wound was healed. 13 kIt performs great signs, even lmaking fire come down from heaven to earth in front of people, 14 and by the signs that it is allowed to work in the presence of4 the beast mit deceives those who dwell on earth, telling them to make an image for the beast nthat was wounded by the sword and yet lived. 15 And it was allowed to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast might even speak and might cause those who would not oworship the image of the beast pto be slain. 16 Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave,5 qto be marked on the right hand or the forehead, 17 so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, rthe name of the beast or sthe number of its name. 18 tThis calls for wisdom: let the one who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666.6

    Where’s the reference to Bitcoin or any of the other cryptos? All it says is there’s a bloke with the number 666 pasted on him. You’re making shit up.

    I tell what is spooky. During the GFC the S&P hit 666 and hit the absolute low. It went straight up from there. That was really weird.

  69. JC

    I don’t understand why some people are so hostile to him.

    He had wheelchair dancing on stage as an example of dickhead behavior.

    As for the Berlin philharmonic… sure those fuckers would perform. They get paid for it.

  70. Leigh Lowe

    JC

    #2593335, posted on December 24, 2017 at 10:38 pm

    Annie

    Here’s the offending para

    Tell me that wasn’t written by someone with a 12 bong per day hobby.

  71. Anne

    Here you go, JC & IT.

    11And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. 12And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. 13And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, 14And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. 15And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

    The Mark of the Beast
    16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

  72. I’m struggling to see the harm that is being done by Andre Rieu.

  73. Arky

    so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name.

    ..
    Sounds like blockchain to me.

  74. JC

    Tell me that wasn’t written by someone with a 12 bong per day hobby.

    Lol. How long has reefer been around? Some of that stuff is serious tripping. I used smoke a joint or two up until my early 20s. I got caught with some really bad stuff and began tripping. I haven’t smoked since then.

  75. I used smoke a joint or two up until my early 20s. I got caught with some really bad stuff

    Druggo – explains a lot.

  76. JC

    I’m struggling to see the harm that is being done by Andre Rieu.

    I’m struggling to see how you came up with opinion some of us were suggesting harm other than the possible penetration of a goat from time to time.

    All music.. all musical concerts are equally good, Ser Ena?

  77. JC

    Druggo – explains a lot.

    From a pub owner. Hahahahahahahhahahaha

  78. Anne

    Oh snap, JC. Yeah, bitcoin’s not there. You might have to think a little harder.
    For example, an image might not be an oil painting it may be a hologram or an synthetic or organic Robotoid.

    Leigh:

    Tell me that wasn’t written by someone with a 12 bong per day hobby.

    You seem to be having some wide swings today, Leigh. RUOK?

  79. the possible penetration of a goat

    You mention this a lot.
    Often multiple times per day.

    Is there something you want to share with us?

  80. Arky

    The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast, because it once was, now is not, and yet will come.

    ..

  81. Infidel Tiger

    I’m struggling to see the harm that is being done by Andre Rieu.

    In fairness you think making sexual congress with livestock during a lean patch is legit too.

    Perhaps sit this one out.

  82. In fairness you think making sexual congress with livestock during a lean patch is legit too.

    What a stupid thing to say.

  83. JC

    What a stupid thing to say.

    You often claim livestock are under appreciated for the purpose of sexual union, Ser. Especially when caught in remote parts of FNQ.

  84. You often claim livestock are under appreciated for the purpose of sexual union, Ser. Especially when caught in remote parts of FNQ.

    I see you are still on drugs.

  85. Arky

    I hope Jordan Peterson gets around to Revelations this year.
    Made me think deeply about Genesis.
    Once you start breaking these things down with accurate translations and interpretation there is a lot more going on.

  86. memoryvault
    #2592990, posted on December 24, 2017 at 2:19 pm
    On a different note, who is prepared to make a prediction for the Sydney to Hobart this year?

    Sentimental favourite for me is Wild Oats XI.

  87. zyconoclast

    Mr Frydenberg said the costs of not proceeding with the Snowy expansion were greater than going ahead. Frydemburgers is a really special kind of stupid, isn’t he? The even more cretinous Australia meeja collective still refer to this marxist mouth breather as “a conservative”.

    In a righteous world Frydenberg would be washing windows at traffic lights for loose change. He is a disgusting and duplicitous liar who should be gassed.

    When is this foreign usurper being referred to the high court so he can be chucked out?
    It’s only fair.

  88. JC

    It’s all through your blog, Ser. In fact if I recall correctly you reference it as livestock love – frequently abbreviated to LL

  89. It’s all through your blog, Ser. In fact if I recall correctly you reference it as livestock love – frequently abbreviated to LL

    The drugs really have addled your head.

  90. Candy

    Because Andre Rieu ruins fine music, Serena. He embellishes the arrangement to the extent you want to gag.

  91. Because Andre Rieu ruins fine music, Serena. He embellishes the arrangement to the extent you want to gag.

    So don’t attend his concerts Candy. You could also cease purchasing his CDs.

    Problem solved. No charge – but I’ll have to invoice you if you require future advice.

  92. Sentimental favourite for me is Wild Oats XI.

    Me too Old School.
    One last huzzah for Bob Oatley, who died a couple of weeks after last year’s event.

  93. Kim Howard

    Boambee John
    #2593111, posted on December 24, 2017 at 4:51 pm

    The subject of senate numbers came up recently.

    Yes because the Island of Tasmania along with South Australia are controlled by the Victorian Caliphate that think they run Australia , ( Sadly they do with Senate power )
    Two States and a pissant Island rocks your Australian world .

    Stats

    Reform the senate by population or have a 3 way dictatorship led by Victoria .
    Many regions , Towns , City`s have a larger population than a Island sucking off the South Eastern Coast of Australia and they don`t have twelve senators .

    Merry Christmas and Glad Tidings to all Cats

  94. entropy

    I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. 12And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. 13And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

    Clearly the United States of America. And the first beast of course is the Holy Roman Empire.😜

  95. dover_beach
    #2593121, posted on December 24, 2017 at 5:04 pm
    Still, what exactly is Dale trying to achieve with her ‘Roman, not Christian’ article?

    Publicity for her new book.
    Stir up the natives, draw attention to herself, new book gets mentioned. Hey presto!
    That strategy worked for Yassmin.

  96. JC

    What Ser is suggesting Candy is that not only shouldn’t you purchase the Hair Monster’s music (which you wouldn’t), but you also shouldn’t comment. Almost a decade of commenting at Lavatory Pronto saw him develop into quite the little totalitarian thicko.

  97. JC

    Drinking on your own this afternoon and evening ser? Lonely stuff hey?

  98. That strategy worked for Yassmin.

    Mmm.. yeah… But Helen Dale has to sell her own book.
    No taxpayer funded jaunts to the middle east or European book fairs for her.

  99. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Jailed former West Coast footballer Ben Cousins ‘missing his children’
    Joe Spagnolo, PerthNow
    December 24, 2017 12:00AM

    JAILED Ben Cousins is missing his children and wishes he could spend Christmas with them, his lawyer Michael Tudori said yesterday.

    Apart from that, the former football star was “doing as well as one can expect” as he prepared for his first Christmas Day behind bars.

    The father-of-two was sentenced to 12 months in March for stalking and drug offences and is in Acacia prison.

    “He obviously would like to be spending Christmas with his children,” Mr Tudori said. “Ben has found it hard, just like anyone who goes to prison.

    “It is hard to adjust to the restrictions of everyday life. You get up at 6am — you don’t have a choice when you get up.

    “Your meals are served at whatever time (the prison decides). You must be in your cell at a certain time.

    “It is the regimented part of it that every prisoner finds tough until they get accustomed to it.”

    Newsflash. Football star doesn’t like being in chokey. I would have thought the solution patently obvious to the meanest intelligence.

  100. JC

    Recall last year, Ser, when you were just Sal before the transition.

    I actaully felt a little sorry for you. 4.30 in the morning and you’re in the bar by yourself.

    Salvatore, Iron Publican
    #2244165, posted on December 25, 2016 at 3:47 am

    Quiet night here. Almost everybody out of town. Workday ended about midnight.
    Down to Sixteen staff due to the Christmas slowdown.

    Saw in Christmas Day in the public bar, all alone ….., a Corona in my hand & the jukebox playing Kenny Rogers: “Coward of the County”

    I mean seriously dude, playing that song at 4.30 Xmas morning suggests you may have been close to calling the Hotline. We’re there to help.

  101. Newsflash. Football star doesn’t like being in chokey. I would have thought the solution patently obvious to the meanest intelligence.

    He’s in for drugs isn’t he?
    (A message there for those who take illegal drugs).

  102. I mean seriously dude, playing that song at 4.30 Xmas morning suggests you may have been close to calling the Hotline. We’re there to help.

    Start paying rent. Indisputably I own your head.

  103. What do we call Helen?
    Dale? Darville? Demidenko? Lyonhelm’s senior advisor? Factually challenged?

  104. DrBeauGan

    Yes Anne, 666 is the code to my Trezor and essential to getting at my bitcoins. But I haven’t tattooed it on my hand yet.

  105. JC

    Start paying rent. Indisputably I own your head.

    Don’t be so hostile, Ser. It’s Xmas eve, so ease up.

    But seriously dude you’re doing an audit of people’s musical tastes and you’re playing Coward of the County at 4.30 on Xmas morning and you’re on your own. WTF?

  106. Infidel Tiger

    Carols By Candlelight from the Sidney Myer Music Bowl more chocabloc with homosexuals than a NSW Liberal Party convention. How disgraceful.

  107. But seriously dude you’re doing an audit of people’s musical tastes and you’re playing Coward of the County at 4.30 on Xmas morning and you’re on your own. WTF?

    Huh? A “business operator” claiming that a publican would their own money into a jukebox?
    You’ve never been out much have you? Jukeboxes are a commercial enterprise. They play what the customer (that’s the person who * clink * drops the coin in) orders them to play.
    Had someone chosen instead, say, Andre Rieu, well that’s what I’d be having to listen to.

  108. JC

    Serena

    Have a good Xmas.

    My human drama of a kid finally arrived this morning after missing her flight. She went to JFK instead of Newark airport. But she’s home.

  109. Arky

    I like Coward of the County.

  110. JC

    I’ve spent a little bit of the arvo reading up on the Trump tax plan. There’s one worrying curve ball in it as far as I can tell.

    The tax reform will limit the amount of interest deductions a firm can present for tax purposes to 30% of EBIDA. (Earnings Before Interest, Taxes, Depreciation and Amortization)

    So far I don’t know what that means for banks… I would assume they are exempted. I also don’t what it would mean for utilities either, as one of the strategies employed by say electricity utilities is to leverage the balance sheet as their “sales” are much more predictable.

  111. Anne

    Arky, I’ve just discovered this guy. Not as pretty as Jordan Peterson but I like his brutality.

    He’s smart, fluent in Greek and H e b r e w and pulls no punches on calling out the false religions including false Christianity and false J udaism.

    https://youtu.be/sU2d7Ae0tzw

  112. The tax reform will limit the amount of interest deductions a firm can present for tax purposes to 30% of EBIDA. (Earnings Before Interest, Taxes, Depreciation and Amortization)

    FMS!
    So if you have a bad year, with lower than usual income (caused by say… drought, or the council digs up the street in front of your shop, or an airline strike keeps people from getting to you, or something) and your interest bill is a huge chunk of your [low] income, you can’t deduct it all?

    On the surface, seems incredibly stupid. I thought Trumpy was for business.

  113. JC

    Yep, I’m off too. Great Xmas to all my Cat pals.

  114. JC

    That’s how I read it, Ser. The issue in the US is that unlike here equity is quite expensive due to the tax treatment – although the rate is now 21%.

    I may be wrong in the way I read it because I combed the internet to see if anyone has picked up on this feature, but haven’t seen anything written up about it.

  115. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    He’s in for drugs isn’t he?
    (A message there for those who take illegal drugs).

    Drugs, repeatedly breaching a violence restraining order, and a firm belief that rules are for everybody else other then Ben Cousins.

  116. old bloke

    Anne,

    Here’s some of the identifiers for that nation called “mystery, Babylon” or Mega Babylon (Babylon the Great) in the Revelation, or the Daughter of Babylon in the Prophets.

    1. It has a large [email protected] population. Just like ancient Babylon when Yahoshua was here, there are more [email protected] living in Babylon than in the land of Israel. (Jeremiah 50:28, 51:6, 51:45-46, Isaiah 48:20, Revelation 18:4)
    2. Mega Babylon will be the last of the super powers (the hindermost of the nations) Jeremiah 50:12. Note also that this nation has a mother nation who is confounded at the destruction of future Babylon.
    3. Future Babylon is where the world’s leaders assemble to meet. Jeremiah 51:44
    4. This Babylon is the world’s policeman (hammer of the world) Jeremiah 50:23
    5. Future Babylon is extremely wealthy. Jeremiah 51:13
    6. Future Babylon is a land of many rivers and is divided in the middle by a broad river Isaiah 18:2
    7. Future Babylon is multicultural, a land of immigrants Revelation 17:15
    8. This Babylon has never been invaded, and has no fear of ever being invaded. Isaiah 47:7,8
    9. Future Babylon has incorporated many aspects of old Babylon, Baal and Mars worship Jeremiah 50:2
    10. Mega Babylon is a nation born in rebellion (from the “mother nation” mention in 2 above?) Isaiah 18:2

    There’s lots more identifiers which I won’t list here, but Rome is clearly out of the picture.

  117. Oh come on

    Has anyonr ever seen Andre Rieu and Kelsey Grammer in the same room together?

    That would be a great plot line for a Frasier episode, actually. The father gets Frasier and Niles tickets to an Andre Rieu concert in Seattle and makes out it’s a huge deal, he’s called in a few favours to get the tickets for his boys etc etc. The two brothers subsequently tie themselves into all sorts of ridiculous knots trying to avoid going whilst appearing to have gone…while the father had given them the tickets in full knowledge they’d be horrified at the thought of going to an Andre Rieu concert and was winding them up all along.

    Good show, was Frasier. I liked it.

  118. Motelier

    To all posters and commenters here on the Cat,

    Enjoy this special day

    Merry Christmas 2017.

    From

    Motelier and MrsM

  119. Anne

    Thanks so much Old Bloke. That’s great.

    I’ll study it. Love to discuss with you later.

  120. Merry Christmas to all Cats. The good news is that the Christmas shopping nightmare is over, the bad news is that its too late to buy Christmas presents.

  121. Kim Howard

    cohenite
    #2593123, posted on December 24, 2017 at 5:06 pm

    Geriatric Mayfly

    #2592660, posted on December 24, 2017 at 7:54 am

    There is already large pump hydro capacity in Tumut dam of the Snowy; it has never been used

    Just to be a technical pedant, this is news to me. Wherever in the scheme excess water aggregates it is diverted to Lake Eucumbene which is simply a large holding basin. Any high discharge into Tumut dam is fed by gravity into Eucumbene through a two way tunnel, or else sent downstream through the turbines. If levels in Tumut dam fall, they are then topped up via said tunnel. I cannot see the need for pumps.

    Tumut 3 Power Station is the first pumped storage hydroelectric power station in Australia.[7] Pump-storage schemes use off-peak energy to pump water to a reservoir on a higher level. This water then passes through turbines to generate electricity when prices are higher.[8] The sole powerhouse is located above ground, below Talbingo Dam.[7]

    The power station is fitted with six Toshiba turbines, each equipped with Melco-manufactured generators,[7] has a combined generating capacity of 1,800 megawatts (2,400,000 hp) of electricity. Three of the six units can operate as pumps. The power station was completed in 1973, upgraded in 2012 and has 150.9 metres (495 ft) rated head. Water is carried in six pipelines, each 488 metres (1,601 ft) long and 5.6 metres (18 ft) in diameter,[9] delivering water both from and to Talbingo Reservoir.

    Define off peak energy , reference where that energy is produced , questions yes .
    its well established for over a hundred years you can push water uphill defying gravity with engineering basic hydraulics and many inventions from the last Century .
    Off peak for a Coal fired Power Station is non existent , these are Mega power plants that don`t shut down for whinny greenies social justice wuckers and ignorant Australians .
    If a Government owned Coal Fired power station directed energy to a electric pump to pump water up hill during less load periods thats just economic sense , if that AGL mob got hold of the energy grid ( OH Wait ) they would take the profits and run .
    NO ONE KNOWS WHO THE SHARE HOLDERS ARE ,just like Labors industry super funds fed into the solar panel windy mill bird killers fund and the Liberals know it and are trying to back out of it , they are to gutless to say your taxes are funding industry super funds also they think those people are smart enough to manage their super funds after retirement .
    Just uniparty`s feathering their own nests , why was Major Jim Moyan put 4th on the senate ticket behind 3 wamen socialists .
    Merry Christmas to all Australains

  122. Infidel Tiger

    Not sure why but Carols By Candlelight just had some bird singing a Disney song on stage who was bigger than Tasmania. I feared one of her stomach tyres would kill a small child in the front row. Christmas sure has changed.

  123. Motelier

    Funny Christmas Stories.

    MrsM has been making rumballs tonight and darted out to the eldest son’s house leaving me with instructions to clean up the kitchen.

    All good I sez to myself.

    Load the dishwasher, fill the sink to wash the larger items and grab the teatowel loaded with biscuit crumbs to “dry up”.

    Start again Motelier.

  124. I’ll go out on a limb here & state that in a significant number of businesses in Australia would have an interest bill that exceeds 30% of EBITDA, even in a good year.

  125. Westie Woman

    Merry Christmas to all of you!

    Have a great day wherever you are and thanks for the entertainment and information you all bring to this wonderful forum..

  126. Come to think of it, one of the covenants of borrowing always was that the interest bill not exceed 50% of your EBITDA.
    In the wake of one financial crash or another, when people all lost their jobs & stopped spending, my bank went beserk coz all their customers “interest cover” suddenly considerably exceeded 50% of EBITDA.
    To then tax that income would be an unimaginable brutality.

    The whole USA must be just bristling with equity in their own businesses.

  127. Infidel Tiger

    How sad.

    Carols had just hit a magnificent high note and they pluck Colon Hay from retirement to sing failed loser John Lennon’s So This Is Christmas.

    Sad.

  128. squawkbox

    Oh dear, entering into the Andre Rieu debate against my better judgement…
    It’s not just that he is fifth-rate and that the best of his work is mediocre. Look at any performance of a great musician, or even a good musician. They are clearly absorbed in the music and concentrating on themselves, the other musicians and the music. Then look at Andre Rieu. He is smirking and mugging at the cameras.
    Queue the usual crowd saying he makes piles of money and therefore must be the reincarnation of Beethoven.

    And a happy Xmas to all you East Staters from those who are 3 hours behind..

  129. Oh come on

    Holy shit the #metoo movement has just claimed a massive, massive leftist scalp in an epic piece of friendly fire. Gateway Pundit found and went public with some garbage Cenk Uygur* wrote way back in 1999 – it’s very gratuitous, very un-PC about how he wants to screw a bunch of women or somesuch. Of course he issued a grovelling apology but the blood is already in the water, the feminist PC police are out in force, accusing him of all the usual shit, a misogynist, upholding the patriarchy and rape culture etc etc. I think Cenk is going down.

    Unfortunately, the usually sensible Sargon of Akkad is being a total softcock about it , reckons it happened years ago, Cenk’s apology ought to end the matter, we’ve all said and done things we aren’t proud of blah blah. I would agree with Sargon’s position if Cenk hadn’t set himself up as a highly influential moral arbiter. Does anyone truly believe that Cenk would give a pass to the likes of, say, Ben Shapiro or Paul Joseph Watson or Steven Crowder if something they wrote 20 years ago surfaced that was extremely embarrassing for them, that they now deeply regret writing, had immediately apologised fulsomely during the process of issuing a very long mea culpa? Would Cenk let it slide in such a circumstance? Like hell he would – I don’t think for a single second he would. He would unleash upon them the full force of the considerable leftist PC establishment he could summon in a heartbeat, regardless of what they said or did in remorse.

    So, stop being a cuck, Sargon. Cenk deserves everything that’s coming his way. Good and hard. Good and hard. If you are willing to do that sort of thing to others, and I know Cenk is – he certainly was with Trump and the ‘locker-room talk’/Pussygate tapes – then you better be goddamn certain your past is absolutely blemish-free. After all, Cenk has been a major, major SJW powerbroker – he helped set the standard whereby the most sincere apology isn’t nearly good enough – there is no way back for wrongdoers. So, oh dear, turns out Cenk has a past himself and he has been hoist by his own petard. Tough shit, too bad so sad. The left is eating its own. Great. Fantastic. Sargon of Akkad needs to stop defending Cenk. It isn’t as though Cenk would do it for him if the shoe were on the other foot, hell no – he’d push the knife in further and twist. Cenk deserves exactly what’s coming for him. Merry Christmas you leftist xunt.

    *you may not be very or at all familiar with him but he and his media organisation, TYT (The Young Turks) is extremely influential amongst the Bernie Sanders-supporting online community that we used to call the nutroots back in the golden age of blogging – Cenk and TYT is similar in scale and influence to Alex Jones and Infowars, possibly even larger and more influential

  130. squawkbox

    OCO, we are I’m sure all familiar with The Young Turks. For those of us whose sole pleasure in schadenfreude their 2016 election meltdown is regularly watched and rewatched.

  131. Oh come on

    Yeah I’ve posted that very clip here myself on several occasions because it’s so hilarious. Well that guy – that fat loudmouth holier-than-thou fucker – the knives are out for him, bigtime. His erstwhile allies are coming for him.

  132. Infidel Tiger

    Sorry Squawk, in a world of moral and cultural relativism you are not allowed to point out thatRieu is the worst of us and represents the fall and decline of all that used to make us righteous.

    Next we will have people equating Poison with AC/ DC.

  133. Oh come on

    You know that bit of the rant about how he was going to obliterate the DNC, how TYT was “at war” with the DNC, how he was going to “end” them etc etc? Well he wasn’t joking. After Hillary’s loss, he set up a PAC to get hard leftists (ie Bernie Sanders-style social democrats) selected in Democrat primaries. It is running over 50 candidates in primary races and its entire support and funding base is the TYT audience. Well, the staffers af this PAC – Cenk’s baby from start to end, he set the fucking thing up – just demanded and received Cenk’s resignation as its chairman! It is literally nothing without Cenk and TYT, everyone who is paid a salary does so as a consequence of Cenk and what he is capable of bringing to the table. Yet they have all turned on him. This is the extent to which the #metoo-ers are eating their own.

  134. squawkbox

    Thank you OCO. As I said schadenfreude is one of my few remaining pleasures, and you have given me a great and timely Xmas gift. Hopefully the fat Armenian genocide denier will be on the streets by next Xmas.

  135. squawkbox

    I mean he denies that the Armenians were genocided, not that he is an Armenian denying genocide in general.

  136. Oh come on

    Steven Crowder’s Cenk and Ana Kasparian impersonations are great, if you haven’t seen them.

    Here Cenk and Ana take on allcomers.

    And a two part interview with Alex Jones for “a post-election reasonable discussion” – Part 1, Part 2

  137. Oh come on

    The intro is classic Cenk and Ana: Cenk: No…whitestraightmale…needs an AK15…and then they say “ooh ooh ooh what about the Founding Fathers” no they weren’t talking about…any AR-47. Do the research…that’s absolutely correct! We’ll have it listed at…

    Ana: I agree with you, Cenk. SO-FUCKING-MUCH!

    Cenk: that’s absolutely right! When you use the f-word…you know it’s real talk.

    Ana: I said FUCK!

  138. Gab

    Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night xxx

  139. Squawkbox: that’s a mere 7 minute shorts. The full 26 minutes is far better, you get to enjoy soooo much better the smugness, then the shock, then the really good part where they start getting stuck into each other!

  140. johanna

    Infidel Tiger
    #2593296, posted on December 24, 2017 at 9:44 pm

    Andre Rieu is on Smooth. Wearing a cable knit jumper. In a stable. Patting a goat.

    Australian men have never understood the importance of good knitwear in one’s wardrobe ensembles.

  141. Herodotus

    Thanks Tom – a very good group, despite Kudelka’s tired depiction of TA. Garrison is superb..

  142. Delta A

    Happy Christmas to all Cats. Thanks for all the fun; thanks to Sinclair for making it possible.

  143. Leigh Lowe

    Thanks Tom.
    Was Santa good to you?

  144. struth

    Merry Christmas.
    The calm before the storm.

    A quiet coffee Christmas morning before the preparations.

    This year we get to host the event.
    Bugger.

  145. Geriatric Mayfly

    Fairfax’s Weatherzone, Radar and Lightning Map, has been cleansed of infidel offence making. In the past, a graphic of Santa and his reindeer has arced across the continent, high above the Christmas Day weather patterns. Not this year. It is possible of course, that Santa’s conveyance struck a Bollard of Peace while attending to duties in Melbournistan.

  146. Leigh Lowe

    Sorry Squawk, in a world of moral and cultural relativism you are not allowed to point out thatRieu is the worst of us and represents the fall and decline of all that used to make us righteous.

    Every time I hear Rieu play, I can’t help feeling sorry for the cat who sacrificed it’s guts to make those strings.
    A futile death.

  147. Geriatric Mayfly

    Masters of swoon – Andre Rieu and Liberace. Are they by any chance related?

  148. Herodotus

    The case for seizing Liddell – Quadrant Online
    http://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2017/12/78965/

    “All it would take to happen is for the re-emergence of members of parliament who have an interest in the welfare of the country.”

    That’s a big ask these days.

  149. Leigh Lowe

    Masters of swoon – Andre Rieu and Liberace. Are they by any chance related?

    No.
    But they were both married to the same goat (at different times, of course … no bigamy).

  150. Bruce of Newcastle

    Merry Christmas to all Cats!
    Here’s a fine Cat cartoon from Blazing Cat Fur this morning: Kitten Break…

  151. Tom

    .. Kudelka’s tired depiction of TA …

    Herodotus, Kudelka doesn’t get a guernsey in the best cartoons roundup 364 out of 365 days simply because he’s not a very good cartoonist. The reason this Abbott of his is great is, unlike the hateful shite coming from the dullards at Fakefax, it has a lovely generosity of spirit.

    Truth is, however, while a stopped clock is right twice a day, Kudelka has a far worse hit rate.

  152. calli

    Happy Christmas one and all!

    We have had our first Christmas Lego injury. Must be a record. 😃

  153. Goanna

    Happy Christmas to everyone especially Tom who brings us the cartoons early in the day and to Sinclair the champion of freedom who gives us a forum to express ourselves.

  154. Geriatric Mayfly

    calli
    #2593456, posted on December 25, 2017 at 7:02 am
    Happy Christmas one and all!
    We have had our first Christmas Lego injury. Must be a record. 😃

    May I echo this and all the Christmas sentiments exchanged among Cats.

    Make a grab for The Readers’ Digest Home Doctor, Calli; I am sure this trauma will be covered.

  155. Leigh Lowe

    We have had our first Christmas Lego injury. Must be a record. 😃

    Perforated instep?
    Or choking?

  156. Dianeh

    Merry Christmas to all At the Cat.

  157. calli

    Foot injury from treading on a motor (new Lego robotic version – requires AAA batteries).

    The latest iteration of evil.

  158. Tom

    One of the ways the US MSM gets its pat on the head from the Democratic Party is publishing fake opinion polls, where they doctor the sample with 10-15% more DNC voters than GOP voters – the same polls that failed to predict the result of the 2016 presidential election. If you understand that, this just now is one of DJT’s most interesting tweets this year:

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump · 7m7 minutes ago
    The Tax Cut/Reform Bill, including Massive Alaska Drilling and the Repeal of the highly unpopular Individual Mandate, brought it all together as to what an incredible year we had. Don’t let the Fake News convince you otherwise…and our insider Polls are strong!

  159. Zaan

    Merry Christmas to all.
    Thank you Tom, I look forward to your posts as much as I did for Bill Leaks commentry.
    As a silent observer, I thank you all for keeping me amused and making me think.
    Have a lovely day

  160. stackja

    Infidel Tiger
    #2593288, posted on December 24, 2017 at 9:37 pm
    Who told you about Potter? Lionel?

    I read extensively.

    Fake reading?

  161. zyconoclast

    Another football groupie going for a cash grab.

    Jarryd Hayne [email protected] accuser was a Christian, saving herself for marriage

    The young woman who alleges she was raped by Jarryd Hayne while she was intoxicated was a devout Christian who was saving her virginity for marriage when the alleged incident occurred in 2015.

    Known only by the pseudonym “Ms V”, the Santa Clara, California, woman, in her mid-20s became acquainted with the rugby league star through mutual friends , while he was living in San Jose and playing NFL for the San Francisco 49ers in December 2015.

    Two years on, Ms V has filed a civil lawsuit in the US against Hayne for allegedly raping her, an experience her lawyer says she will struggle with “for the rest of her life”.

    In an interview with Fairfax Media, lawyer Micha Star Liberty said Ms V’s faith was front and centre in the consideration of general damages, which aim to quantify the “pain and suffering” experienced.

    “The fact is that this woman, because of her religious and moral beliefs, saved herself [for marriage] into her mid-20s and had the decision taken from her. That will have a huge impact on her and her psyche,” she said. “I think it’s something she is going to struggle with for the rest of her life.” Hayne is also a Christian, linked to the Pentecostal Hillsong church. He often speaks openly about his faith, including recently when speaking of his current travels on a religious holiday in Israel.

    Hayne has vehemently denied the sexual assault allegations through his lawyers in Sydney, who reiterated that the Santa Clara District Attorney chose not to proceed with the matter due to insufficient evidence after it was reported to police in 2016.

    Sean Webby, spokesman for the Santa Clara District Attorney’s office, said there were four key questions considered by prosecutors in determining whether a person should be charged.

    “Was there a crime? Do we know who did it? Can we prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt at a jury trial, and is charging the right thing to do?” he said.

    “A prosecutor thoroughly reviews all reports and records concerning the case, including witness statements. We declined to file charges due to insufficient evidence.”

    Ms Liberty said her analysis of evidence was similar to that of the DA, with the facts giving her confidence to take on the case in the civil court, where the burden of proof is lower.

    She added that the simple act of “sharing what happened” would make the legal undertaking worthwhile for Ms V.

    “Part of the process for a victim of a sexual assault is to go through the catharsis of stepping forward … and trying to hold the person accountable,” she said. “So any sort of result where we get a verdict in her favour and she has the ability to obtain counselling and process what happened, that’s a good day at trial.”

    On Saturday Fairfax Media revealed that Hayne was the third sportsman associated with the San Francisco 49ers to be accused of sexually assaulting a woman who had been taken home from San Jose nightclub The Willow Den.

    The eight-year-old bar is a popular haunt for the 49ers, according to its owner, Hans Heller.

    Mr Heller spoke lovingly of the bar’s true “grimy dive bar” identity, what with the record album covers and dollar bills lining the walls, tangled fairy lights and wacky figurines hanging above the bar.

    Lawyers for Ms V and Hayne will meet at a preliminary case management meeting in April next year, where both parties will agree on scheduling.

    But before that can take place, Hayne must be formally served with the court papers, which has not been possible while he remains in Israel.

    If required, Ms Liberty said legal representatives would travel to Australia to take Hayne’s deposition in the new year.

  162. herodotus

    Yes, Tom – better than usual but still the budgie smugglers (never mind that they’re surf lifesaver uniform) and hairy back. He doesn’t deserve to be employed as a cartoonist. My goodwill at this time only goes so far.

    Hope you have a lovely day and that the festive season lasts at least a week!
    We’re playing the Australian Christmas Carols at the moment. May give the complete Tchaikovsky Nutcracker its annual outing later, and Handel’s Messiah. For superb carols, the Cambridge Singers.

  163. Macbeth

    Merry Christmas everyone. Can’t hear the carols as I would like as I’ve dropped my hearing aids in the bedroom and can’t see well enough to find them. Six corrected typos in this par so far. Very best to all.

  164. herodotus

    The north wind is tossing the leaves.
    The red dust is over the town;
    The sparrows are under the eaves,
    And the grass in the paddock is brown;
    As we lift up our voices and sing,
    To the Christ-child the heavenly King.
    The tree ferns in green gullies sway;
    The cool stream flows silently by;
    The joy bells are greeting the day,
    And the chimes are adrift in the sky,
    As we lift up our voices and sing,
    To the Christ-child the heavenly King.

  165. Baldrick

    A happy and Holy Christmas to all Cats and Kittehs. 🎅

  166. herodotus

    For “joy bells and chimes adrift in the sky” there’s a beautiful CD by Liz Story, Christmas piano music, called The Gift.
    Your favourite streaming service probably has it.

  167. Gilas

    For those of us who prefer the sublime to the, ahem, more mundane…

    Merry CHRISTMAS (!) to all Cats, and especially to Sinc, who makes this outpost of reason, sanity and open debate possible.

  168. Anne;
    I get what you are saying. Every dystopian novel written in the last thirty years has this society as its starting point. Realistically, every science fiction reader can see what is happening to us, but our voices are drowned in the smugly complacent miasma that envelopes us. All we can do is be prepared, and save ourselves.

    Hugs, Winston? How about a hearty handshake?

    You reject my comradely gesture of solidarity?
    To the gulag with you!

  169. C.L.

    The Anglican Archbishop of Sydney Glenn Davies is an
    idiot:

    Religious leaders offer Christmas messages

    The Archbishop remarked Twitter had become the preferred communication method for at least one world leader — a thinly veiled reference to US President Donald Trump.

    “With a limit of 280 characters — it is difficult to say much, let alone explain anything complex,” he said in a statement earlier this week.

    “Who knows what might happen if the leader of another country takes something the wrong way?”

    Cannot say much or anything complex in 280 characters?

    1. You shall have no other gods before Me.
    2. You shall make no idols.
    3. You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.
    4. Keep the Sabbath day holy.
    5. Honor your father and your mother.
    6. You shall not murder.
    7. You shall not commit adultery.
    8. You shall not steal.
    9. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
    10. You shall not covet.

  170. egg_

    Foot injury from treading on a motor (new Lego robotic version – requires AAA batteries)

    Enjoy it while you can before the tick & flick chicks ban it as a heteronormative booby trap.

  171. calli

    Looks like it’s time for me to lower the tone.

    🎄🎅🏻 🎄

  172. calli

    C.L., you did read Davies’ tweet, didn’t you?

    He is not an idiot.

  173. Peter Castieau

    Merry Christmas everyone.

    A big thank you to Tom, who’s cartoons are my first go-to place every day. Today Garrison is going up on my Spacechook page, just brilliant.

    Thank you also Sinclair for hosting this blog, much appreciated.

  174. C.L.

    I read the ABC Online:

    The Archbishop remarked Twitter had become the preferred communication method for at least one world leader — a thinly veiled reference to US President Donald Trump.

    “With a limit of 280 characters — it is difficult to say much, let alone explain anything complex,” he said in a statement earlier this week.

    “Who knows what might happen if the leader of another country takes something the wrong way?”

  175. calli

    Yes C.L., and he encapsulated the Gospel in one tweet.

    Beware the ABC frame.

  176. メリークリスマス

    良いお年をお迎えください

  177. H B Bear

    You shall have no other Gods before Trump.

  178. Dr Faustus

    Happy Christmas one and all.

  179. Nick

    Our Catholic hierachy are little better. One is a cross dresser with a young Italian ‘manservant’, one requires two bedrooms because one just isn’t enough and the rest behave as if they are something out of ‘ the name of the rose’.

  180. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Geseende Kersfees En’n Gelukkige Nuwe Jaar.

  181. nemkat

    Who knows what might happen if the leader of another country takes something the wrong way?”
    Rather than taking a free kick at Trump, this clown might be better employed addressing evidence to the Royal Commission about the behaviour by some C of E/ Anglican employees in the recent past.

  182. Infidel Tiger

    The north wind is tossing the leaves.
    The red dust is over the town;
    The sparrows are under the eaves,
    And the grass in the paddock is brown;
    As we lift up our voices and sing,
    To the Christ-child the heavenly King.
    The tree ferns in green gullies sway;
    The cool stream flows silently by;
    The joy bells are greeting the day,
    And the chimes are adrift in the sky,
    As we lift up our voices and sing,
    To the Christ-child the heavenly King.

    Cracking tune. Reminds me so much of Christmas in the country.

  183. Cannot say much or anything complex in 280 characters?

    1. You shall have no other gods before Me.
    2. You shall make no idols.
    3. You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.
    4. Keep the Sabbath day holy.
    5. Honor your father and your mother.
    6. You shall not murder.
    7. You shall not commit adultery.
    8. You shall not steal.
    9. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
    10. You shall not covet.

    That’s 375 characters, dude.

  184. calli

    You guys just don’t get it. Do carry on.

  185. Indolent

    Merry Christmas to all.

    Andre Rieu is in the business of making people happy. He has introduced real music to generations of people as something alive and fun. Waltzes were originally dance music and are very open to interpretation (just like jazz). They are not, and were never meant to be, set in aspic. They are also very uplifting.

    Yes, sometimes the showman aspect is a bit beyond my taste but Andre Rieu is a real musician and a wonderful violinist. I’ve heard him do solos that were simply breathtaking. You don’t have to starve in a garret to be a serious musician.

  186. H B Bear

    Andre Rieu is Eurotrash. He belongs on a cruise ship somewhere, entertaining people until they get gastro.

  187. C.L.

    Yes C.L., and he encapsulated the Gospel in one tweet.

    I’m not following His Grace, then, at all.
    He says Twitter is hopeless for communicating profundities, as exemplified by Donald Trump, and he does this on Twitter?

  188. C.L.

    Any one of the ten is well fewer than 280, Monty, you bone head.

  189. C.L.

    Bullied by Nazis online, cowardly New Zealand singer “Lorde” folds …

    Auckland: Kiwi singer Lorde has bowed to backlash from some fans and cancelled her concert in Israel, according to a local media report.

    It comes after two New Zealand fans wrote an open letter on website The Spinoff, calling on the 21-year-old songstress to cancel her show in Tel Aviv scheduled for June.

    They argued it would show support for Israel’s occupation of Palestine.

    “Noted! Been speaking w many people about this and considering all options. Thank u for educating me i am learning all the time too,” Lorde tweeted on Thursday night.

    The Jerusalem Post has quoted Israeli promotion company Naranjah as stating Lorde had now cancelled the show.

    “Sadly we must announce the cancellation of Lorde’s concert in Israel that was scheduled for June,” Naranjah said.

  190. Anyway, merry Keynesian Stimulus Day to you all.

  191. C.L.

    Have a good one, Montezuma.

  192. The spirit of Christmas has bestowed upon me an unusual degree of mellowness and forgiveness,

    So

    Fsck off monty.

  193. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    They argued it would show support for Israel’s occupation of Palestine.

    Irael’s occupation of “Palestine”. What “Palestine?”

  194. Makka

    Merry Christmas everyone. Have a wonderful day.

  195. Oh come on

    Kids are still sleeping. I wonder for how much longer? As Eminem said, “it’s the calm before the storm right here”

  196. Boambee John

    Kim Howard
    #2593363, posted on December 24, 2017 at 11:07 pm
    Boambee John
    #2593111, posted on December 24, 2017 at 4:51 pm

    The subject of senate numbers came up recently.

    Yes because the Island of Tasmania along with South Australia are controlled by the Victorian Caliphate that think they run Australia , ( Sadly they do with Senate power )
    Two States and a pissant Island rocks your Australian world .

    Stats

    Reform the senate by population or have a 3 way dictatorship led by Victoria .
    Many regions , Towns , City`s have a larger population than a Island sucking off the South Eastern Coast of Australia and they don`t have twelve senators .

    Merry Christmas and Glad Tidings to all Cats

    The problem is that the number of senators per state cannot be reduced below six, and there must be equal numbers per state, unless the Constitution is changed by referendum. This requires a majority of votes in a majority of states. At least one of SA, Tas or Vic must therefore support the change. The only one that might is Vic, but would you bet a referendum on that?

    We have to work within the existing rules. Hence either increase the number of states to reduce each back to six senators (and since SA or Tas are not likely to be split in two, effectively halve their share of senators) or halve both the numbers of senators and representatives to maintain the one/two ratio.

    One other option would be to amalgamate Tas and Vic as part of increasing the number of states. Vic might like the idea, as they would gain control of the hydro generation; Tas might be less keen!

    However much either of us might like to change the current numbers in other ways, it won’t happen.

  197. zyconoclast

    Auckland: Kiwi singer Lorde has bowed to backlash from some fans and cancelled her concert in Israel, according to a local media report.

    She is an overrated virtue signaler.
    Saves the Israel fans form boredom.

    Best NZ female singer ever was

    MARGARET URLICH

    Only my heart calling

    Escaping

  198. Mother Lode

    That’s 375 characters, dude.

    That is a list of 10 things, each important and each less that 280 characters in length.

    Someone is having a very Moronic Christmas.

  199. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Tas might be less keen!

    Declare Tasmania and South Australia mendicant States, place them under administration in the same manner as any other bankrupt enterprise, and strip them of their Senate representation, or reduce their Senate representation to two Senators, in a similar fashion to the territories?

  200. zyconoclast

    Tas might be less keen!

    Declare Tasmania and South Australia mendicant States, place them under administration in the same manner as any other bankrupt enterprise, and strip them of their Senate representation, or reduce their Senate representation to two Senators, in a similar fashion to the territories?

    Stop all federal funding of the States.
    States to raise all their own revenue from within their borders.
    Feds get a fixed 10% from each state.
    States live and die by their own policies.

  201. Arky

    I will try to dislike you filthy curs slightly less on this day of good will.
    Merry Chistmas.
    Here are some rainbows, unicorns, beagles and gerbils for you libertarians. I know you like that kind of thing;
    🌈🌈🌈🐕🐕🐕🦄🦄🦄🦄🐰🐰🐰🐰🐰
    I have ‘t forgotten you Monty. I have restocked your distraction squirrel collection. You’re going to need heaps next year:
    🐿🐿🐿🐿🐿🐿🐿🐿🐿🐿🐿🐿🐿🐿🐿🐿🐿🐿🐿🐿🐿🐿🐿🐿🐿🐿🐿🐿🐿🐿🐿🐿🐿🍩

  202. Joe

    Declare Tasmania and South Australia mendicant States, place them under administration in the same manner as any other bankrupt enterprise, and strip them of their Senate representation, or reduce their Senate representation to two Senators, in a similar fashion to the territories?

    Nothing so drastic is required.

    Simply have the federal govt repeal INCOME taxes for all. Have the states gather VAT on all transactions entered into in their jurisdiction and keep that revenue raised. The states then to donate funds to the Federal govt for that body to undertake it’s limited role.

  203. Makka

    OCO, we are I’m sure all familiar with The Young Turks. For those of us whose sole pleasure in schadenfreude their 2016 election meltdown is regularly watched and rewatched.

    Late last night with the house quiet, I was enjoying a pleasant tipple. I hadn’t seen much at all of the US MSM reaction to Trumps win so decided to venture on to youtube and have a look. What a blast! The reactions of the precious leftards was perfect. Perfect!

  204. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Feds get a fixed 10% from each state.
    States live and die by their own policies.

    Role of the Federal Government reduced to immigration, foreign affairs, trade and defence. States responsible for all else, and, indeed, live or die by their own policies.

  205. Joe

    Role of the Federal Government reduced to immigration, foreign affairs, trade and defence. States responsible for all else, and, indeed, live or die by their own policies.

    To resolve inter-state trade taxation. Every company/business that wants to trade in a state, must have an office/warehouse/factory in that state.

  206. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    I will try to dislike you filthy curs slightly less on this day of good will.
    Merry Chistmas.

    Merry Christmas to you, too, dungbeetle.

  207. H B Bear

    Anyway, merry Keynesian Stimulus Day to you all.

    It’s not Keynesian if you are spending your own money mUnty. Do try and keep up – you really don’t get this economics stuff at all do you?

  208. H B Bear

    Tasmania and Canberra are running Australian jokes.

    Both should be abolished. It would save a couple of hundred million dollars a year.

  209. Santa was the original Keynesian, Humphrey. Before helicopter money, there were sleigh presents.

  210. Merry Xmas Cats and Happy Birthday Jesus! In the increasingly rare nativity scenes on display he still doesn’t look a day over 2017 years.

    Santa brought me an Xbox One X and Dunkirk in glorious 4k so that’s the evenings entertainment sorted.

  211. H B Bear

    Santa doesn’t have an account at the Fed.

  212. lotocoti

    What “Palestine?”

    That’d be any and all real estate they could’ve theoretically occupied if Egypt, Jordan, Syria and Iraq had slaughtered all the Israelites in 1948.
    In 1948 the retarded rock farmers’ concept of nation building started and ended with mutilating and looting Israeli dead on the Jerusalem Road.
    That hasn’t changed.

  213. Arky

    Don’t be grumpy Zulu.
    I got you boomers something too.
    A dysentery cruise:
    🛳
    Everyone’s houses:
    🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠🏠
    And some Chinamen to sell them to:
    😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑

  214. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Both should be abolished. It would save a couple of hundred million dollars a year.

    Tasmania could always revert to its former role as a penal colony for recidivist offenders?

  215. Santa is above such things as inflation, Humphrey.

  216. Infidel Tiger

    Spare a thought for the Christians in the Middle East today. Thanks to the idiocy of Bush and Obama most of them have known nothing but slaughter and mayhem for the last 16 years. Hopefully they are are able to celebrate in some small way.

  217. Declare Tasmania the northernmost tip of Antarctica, and auction it off to a country looking for a foothold in the Great Southern Continent.

    Declare SA Terra Nullus, and invite the local Indigenous to initiate Invasion Day, Mark II.

    Limit eligibility for the Senate to people who have paid a minimum of $10 million in taxes, and have lived in the streets as a homeless person for at least a decade.

    Reintroduce the death penalty for people who open their boiled eggs at the wrong end **.

    ————————-
    ** – May require a referendum to determine the “right” end.

  218. Tom

    I hadn’t seen much at all of the US MSM reaction to Trumps win so decided to venture on to youtube and have a look. What a blast!

    It never gets old, Makka, except now I’m more confident than ever that not a single one of those media parasites has met anyone who isn’t a fellow tantrum-throwing zombie with a mental age of four.

  219. Joe

    Role of the Federal Government reduced to immigration, foreign affairs, trade and defence. States responsible for all else, and, indeed, live or die by their own policies.

    Nope. The best use for Tasmania is a farm and a dam. The whole place should be farm and that land that is not suitable for farming should be made into dams. The volume of water that falls in Tasmania is enormous. It’s just the greens and the preservationists that are stopping Tasmania’s progress.

  220. Makka

    Hopefully they are are able to celebrate in some small way.

    Too right. I just saw footage of a midnight mass in Mosul. Lot’s of families and young kiddies, all bright and smiling. Happiness flowing. Yes, let’s hope they have some peace in their lives.

  221. Oh come on

    Merry Christmas, everyone!

    And m0nty, happy holidays!

  222. Joe

    And now I have to attend to Christmas cheer.

    So a Curmudgeonly Christmas to you all.

  223. Makka

    It never gets old, Makka,

    Thanks Tom. No it doesn’t. Such wonderful scenes of rank leftist idiocy. Gifts that keep on giving.

  224. Tom

    Humphrey, I realise your actuarial modelling uses very conservative, classical assumptions, but the idea that abolishing Canberra wouldn’t save TRILLIONS is laughable.

  225. Oh come on

    I don’t know if anyone here is a fan of Binkov’s Battlegrounds – if you’re interested in military matters, you should be – anyway, he’s done a festive Finland vs USA war of the Santas.

    Here’s a more typical effort from Comissar Binkov:

    Australia vs Indonesia

  226. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    THE WORLD
    There is no room for them on this Earth.

    Frances D’Emilio
    The Australian
    10:50AM December 25, 2017

    Pope Francis has likened the journey of Mary and Joseph to Bethlehem to the migrations of millions of people today who are forced to leave homelands for a better life, or just for survival.

    I thought Mary and Joseph were traveling to Bethlehem so that Joseph could be counted in the census, at the place of his birth, as ordered by the Romans?

  227. Infidel Tiger

    Pope Francis has likened the journey of Mary and Joseph to Bethlehem to the migrations of millions of people today who are forced to leave homelands for a better life, or just for survival.

    Hopefully this bloke gets a bible for Christmas. Failing that a clue bat to his communist bonce will suffice.

  228. johanna

    Merry Christmas, all!

    Just got back from a Christmas brekkie, which *may* have featured champagne. 🙂

    It’s usually very quiet around here, but the neighbours’ celebrations are well underway.

    A couple three old boys nearby have cracked a few cans and are strumming guitars and singing country and western songs.

    A child somewhere close got a keyboard from Santa, and I have been enjoying halting renditions of Twinkle Twinkle Little Star on high rotation.

    The cockies are wheeling overhead, shrieking, presumably to deter the idiot with reindeer and a sleigh who invaded their airspace last night. The magpies are competing with their version of Christmas carols – very nice too, when you can hear it.

    It’s musica viva here in Queanbeyan.

  229. Eyrie

    ZK2A “Role of the Federal Government reduced to immigration, foreign affairs, trade and defence”

    Not sure about anything but a defecne/foreign affairs role for the feds. States should do trade and immigration so the Feds don’t swamp a state with 7th century barbaians or African savages.

  230. Boambee John

    Mother Lode
    #2593534, posted on December 25, 2017 at 11:00 am
    That’s 375 characters, dude.

    That is a list of 10 things, each important and each less that 280 characters in length.

    Someone is having a very Moronic Christmas.

    M0ntonic?

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