Open Forum: December 23, 2017

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  1. johanna

    Oh, and checked the teev guide and there’s an Andre Rieu Christmas special on SBS at 2.10 pm.

    Just sayin’ … 😉

  2. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    States should do trade and immigration so the Feds don’t swamp a state with 7th century barbaians or African savages.

    Fair enough, if the States are meeting their own welfare bills, but I’m wondering about the situation where a State Government, comprised of SJW’s, decides on a “Refugees are Welcome here.” gig.

  3. Gilas

    To all the geniuses who can think of better Oz Fed-State taxation-sharing and senate model representation systems:

    Yada yada, yada……

    Nothing, NOTHING, will happen this side of a revolution and mass-slaughter of the current political/media/academic classes.

    What a waste of otherwise-useful OT electrons!

    Ya’ all have a great Day and keep yer hands off-of it!

  4. Tom

    Actually, Makka, the exploration by the Graniaud of the leftard brain one year on from Trump’s victory is even more telling. None of them has a clue what happened. None of them has ever been outside New York to Ohio or Wisconsin or Pennsylvania to meet anyone who voted for POTUS45. Every single leftard amoeba thinks that because a white man replaced a black man (who couldn’t run for a third term), America is racist — and sexist, because Crooked Hillary. Thanks to the zombieism of the US MSM, they have zero knowledge of America outside of that liberal New York bubble.

  5. Eyrie

    The reffos stay in that state as they are permanent residents or citizens of that state unless approved to live in another under that other state’s laws.
    We really only need a defence/foreign affairs union to present to the outside world.
    Anyway we now already have a federal government of SJWs with a “Refugees are Welcome here” gig.

  6. johanna

    Tom, thanks for that link.

    How about the black Grauniad writer who construed a white female Trump supporter saying ‘we are taking our country back’ as meaning whites taking it from blacks.

    Good to see. As long as they keep thinking like that, unmoored from reality (to quote this moron) Trump has no meaningful oppposition to worry about.

  7. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Hopefully this bloke gets a bible for Christmas. Failing that a clue bat to his communist bonce will suffice.

    Certainly make a change from the Quran he seems to be focused on.

  8. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

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  9. bystander

    A, Christmas in Melbourne where the andrews filth surrenders and gudes the proles with number plates reading: keep alert keep alive. Yet, I rember the filth mocking Howard when he said: “be alert but not alarmed.
    In any event I wish cats a Merry Christmas.

  10. Splatacrobat

    Merry Christmas to everyone.
    Been busy selling the house and buying a new one (downsizing). We settled with our new house just in time for Christmas eve.

  11. Meanwhile, Winston listens with trepidation to the annual chorus of banging and clanging of pots and pans coming from the kitchen as the Child Bride reassembles the cookware and various organic substances into Christmas lunch.
    Pav.
    Yum.

  12. Mark from Melbourne

    Merry Christmas to all and sundry (not Grigs).

  13. W Hogg

    1) Can anyone think of 2 common crimes in which police and governments rush to proclaim the innocence (at least of the more severe possible charges) of apprehended perpetrators? I can think of one – mass civilian casualties inflicted by Muslims, in which terrorism charges will immediately be ruled out in favour of lesser offences such as negligent driving. But I can’t think of a second – can anyone help me?
    2) Would a declaration of mental illness and drug abuse typically help a defence attorney construct a defence of not guilty by means of diminished responsibility? Can anyone think of two common crimes in which the police immediately help plan defence strategies?
    3) Should it subsequently emerge that the perpetrator of mass civilian casualties did in fact make contact with organised terrorist groups, and the police wish to laid terrorism-related charges, with their earlier declarations that an incident was NOT terror-related make it more or less likely that a conviction could be secured?

    I feel like there is a systematic miscarriage of justice and pattern of behaviour that has the effect of perverting the course of justice. Who should I speak to to express my concerns?

  14. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    ) Would a declaration of mental illness and drug abuse typically help a defence attorney construct a defence of not guilty by means of diminished responsibility? Can anyone think of two common crimes in which the police immediately help plan defence strategies?

    This suspect is supposed to have a well documented history of heavy use of ice. I don’t know much about these matters, but, for a heavy user of ice, he looks a remarkably healthy specimen to me.

  15. Steve trickler.

    May big smiles appear on all faces here, on this lovey Christmas Day.



  16. I don’t know much about these matters, but, for a heavy user of ice, he looks a remarkably healthy specimen to me.

    That’s coz Ice use doesn’t have any visible side effects, Zulu.

  17. Rockdoctor

    Merry Christmas & Happy New Year to all & sundry. Enjoying an icy cool James Boags while cooking Chistmas Lunch on another hot & dry NQ Christmas. My Christmas wish for a drought breaking monsoon are looking slimmer & slimmer all the time (No storm season again & now not looking likely to Mid January). Anyway enjoy the day with Family if you can do so and hope for a bright 2018 (& a commodities price rise as well if I’m not too greedy please)…

  18. W Hogg

    This suspect is supposed to have a well documented history of heavy use of ice. I don’t know much about these matters, but, for a heavy user of ice, he looks a remarkably healthy specimen to me.

    Is it normal for the cops to publicly announce up front all the potential mitigating factors against the suspect?

  19. Makka

    My Christmas wish for a drought breaking monsoon are looking slimmer & slimmer all the time (No storm season again & now not looking likely to Mid January)

    Without a wet, NQ can be quite a challenge. TC Rockie.

  20. Helen

    Thanks Mark, will do. I am actually working today and yesterday and tomorrow haha, but enjoying Christmas Day nonetheless.

    Thank God for the cat, which preserves my sanity.

    A very merry Christmas to you all. And Happy Birthday to any I have missed throuought the year!

  21. johanna

    Just cut three flower stalks of the giant kangaroo paws and put them in a heavy glass vase against a white wall.

    Perfect Australian Christmas decoration – red and green. And, it makes one look like a Japanese flower arranger simply because they are so architectural, or whatever they call it. Makes my humble joint look like a designer home.

    Also got a pink rosebud in a small Delft vase opening beside the computer. Smells good, too.

    Agapanthus are blossoming all over the place through the glass kitchen door.

    Beauty everywhere. Life is good.

    BTW, the Andre Rieu Christmas special starts in 15 minutes on SBS. 🙂

  22. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Is it normal for the cops to publicly announce up front all the potential mitigating factors against the suspect?

    I am struggling to remember any similar situation, indeed.

  23. Myrddin Seren

    #Cruiseship Plague

    Andre Rieu is Eurotrash. He belongs on a cruise ship somewhere, entertaining people until they get gastro.

    Daughter No.1 was just telling us about a fellow she knows who was working on a cruise ship out of South Africa.

    Got sick with a racking cough that lingered for months. Went to see a quack when he came back to Australia, who shipped him straight off to emergency and from their they dropped him in to Infectious Diseases Isolation.

    Tuberculosis.

    Merry Christmas and keep the hygiene up in crowds.

  24. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    SAEED Noori was already 18 in 2004, when the war in ­Afghanistan between NATO troops and the Taliban was escalating.

    But instead of fighting in his country, he fled to Australia along with his brothers, sister and parents.

    The Noori family had hit the jackpot as refugees in the world’s most generous ­per-capita resettlement pro­gram, with free healthcare, education, income support and housing in suburban ­Melbourne.

    As Noori made his home in our peaceful country, young Australians were dying in his country, trying to liberate it from the Taliban he had ­escaped.

    In 2007, when Noori was 21 and had gained full citizenship, three Australian soldiers were killed in Oruzgan province: Private Luke Worsley, 26, SASR Sergeant Matthew Locke, 33, and Trooper David Pearce, 41.

    Police allege that last week Saeed Noori repaid Australia’s kindness by driving an SUV into pedestrians at a busy intersection on Melbourne’s Flinders St, hospitalising 19 people, aged from four to 83.

    From Miranda Devine. Fair question – if he won’t fight for his own country, why should anyone else?

  25. johanna

    You are preaching to an empty church, Zulu.

    Everyone is watching Andre.

    Seriously, how about letting up on the angry politics for a day, this day.

    Got anything positive to say?

  26. DrBeauGan

    Everyone is watching Andre.

    Oh no they’re not. Some of us like good music.

  27. Mindfree

    Merry xmas cats and best for 2018

    Ps zclast margaret uhlich’s escaping is one of the best songs recorded evah!

  28. Keep it up Zulu – you’re one of the few keeping this blog’s head above the sewerage.

  29. johanna

    Andre just did a thumping version of ‘Jerusalem’. Not surprising for someone whose life’s work is based on European culture.

    Smack in the face for anti-Trumpers and muzzie lovers.

  30. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Merry Christmas Zulu.

    Merry Christmas, and a Happy New year to you, too, Snoopy.

  31. johanna

    Heh. Andre now taking the piss from the pretentious and increasingly politically correct Last Night at the Proms. Bring it on!

    BTW, on the earlier episode, there were all these interviews with people with regional accents and not a lot of polish who loved his shows. The intent was to show that his fans were bogans.

    The fact that they paid big bucks to listen to classical music was conveniently ignored.

    Just like the anti-Brexit snobs.

    What with the bad hair, success, and all, Andre Rieu is the Trump of the entertainment industry.

  32. johanna

    Forgot to add, it is well overdue that Mark Steyn wrote about him.

  33. DrBeauGan

    Johanna, nobody who brings good music to the masses is all bad. Liberace was about as good a pianist, technically, as Rieu is a violinist. But they share a perverted taste for twiddly bits and showmanship which can spoil it. I doubt if Liberace did much to encourage a respect for Chopin over all.

    There’s a depressing vulgarity there. Candy noticed it.

  34. W Hogg

    JC, I’m told utilities and banks do not have the interest deductibility limit for obvious reasons.

    Once EBITDA falls substantially the company may well have no deductibility issues because it’s out of taxable income in most cases. But I’m reading up more on it.

  35. W Hogg

    For those who don’t believe it can be tweeted, the originals didn’t have numbering (which would have helped) or punctuation.

    You shall have no other gods before Me
    You shall make no idols
    You shall not take the Lord’s name in vain
    Keep the Sabbath holy
    Honor thy father and mother
    You shall not kill
    You shall not commit adultery
    You shall not steal
    You shall not bear false witness
    You shall not covet

  36. johanna

    You can stick your ‘depressing vulgarity’ where the sun don’t shine.

    People like Liberace and Rieu keep the general population in touch with their musical heritage.

    Rieu has stolen a few ideas from the great Victor Borge, who did the same, using humour to teach classics. About 2 mins in.

  37. W Hogg

    I just saw Jerusalem at 4pm, by David Hobson. Did they do it twice?

  38. DrBeauGan

    Your link doesn’t work, Johanna.

    I liked Victor Borge for his wit. He wasn’t vulgar, quite the contrary.

    If you can’t detect vulgarity, I suppose you are blessed. You will get pleasure from that which makes others cringe.

  39. johanna

    For those who think I’ve gone soft in the head beacuse waltzes, Ted Nugent should reassure.

  40. Oh come on

    not a lot of polish who loved his shows.

    I’m not surprised. Very laudable people, the Polish, with a refined and resilient culture.

  41. Myrddin Seren

    Favourite Flashmob video:

    Som Sabadell flashmob – BANCO SABADELL

    Sponsored by a bank for a commemoration. If they did it today, I assume the Antifa would attack them as capitalist lackeys.

  42. Infidel Tiger

    m
    Forgot to add, it is well overdue that Mark Steyn wrote about him.

    I suspect Steyn would give Rieu the full treatment and you wouldn’t like it.

  43. Pedro the Ignorant

    Christmas lunch is a salad roll and a bottle of sparkling mineral water from the Engels fridge in the back of the work ute.

    Venue is a roadside parking bay on the Great Northern Highway near Paynes Find in the Murchison region of WA.

    Temperature just cracked 43C according to the car thermometer.

    Heading South at the legal speed and I should be be home in time for the traditional slap up Xmas dinner tonight.

    Merry Xmas to all at the Cat.

  44. DrBeauGan

    I’ll see your Ted Nugent and raise you a Dire Straits:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jhdFe3evXpk

  45. stackja

    There seems to be a problem here; about popular musicians being popular.

  46. jupes

    Merry Christmas everyone.

    Currently in the Qantas lounge drinking a Margaret River Cab Merlot. My Sydney adventure is over and looking forward to my next one back in Perth.

  47. Oh come on

    President Trump makes a video phone call to hundreds of servicemen and women:

    I just want to wish everybody a very, very merry Christmas, we say Merry Christmas, again, very, very proudly. Very very merry Christmas. We’re going to have a great year, an incredible year. I’m thrilled to bring seasons greetings on behalf of the first lady and our entire family and most importantly, on behalf of the American people. Today and every day we’re incredibly thankful for you and for your families. Your families have been tremendous. Always under-appreciated, military families, the greatest people on earth.

    As we celebrate this most precious holiday, we’re grateful for each of you who spend this Christmas away from our families and defend all of our families, our freedom and our flag. Every American heart is thankful and we’re asking God to watch over you and to watch over your families.

    H/t: Insty

    To think we came that close to having Hillary in charge. Huma *maybe* would have had an intern send a Happy Holidays e-card to the Joint Chiefs and that would have been their lot.

  48. Mark A

    Infidel Tiger
    #2593625, posted on December 25, 2017 at 4:26 pm

    m
    Forgot to add, it is well overdue that Mark Steyn wrote about him.

    I suspect Steyn would give Rieu the full treatment and you wouldn’t like it.

    Not a great fan of AR as I mentioned before but Mark Steyn’s taste of music is not far from pedestrian.

    I still don’t understand the hostility though towards AR, If you see the happy joyous faces of the crowds attending, I think Johanna is in good company.

    There are bigger bogan crowds in Melbourne at every Aussie rules ‘football’ match, are you purist despise them as well?

    It’s entertainment in my book, like it or lump it but let others enjoy it.

  49. johanna

    Off to a Christmas dinner, but planning to escape asap

    See youse later.

  50. Infidel Tiger

    Not a great fan of AR as I mentioned before but Mark Steyn’s taste of music is not far from pedestrian.

    Steyn is the world’s foremost expert in Broadway and Americans standards.

    You probably have Rod Stewart on your Sony Walkman.

  51. Infidel Tiger

    There seems to be a problem here; about popular musicians being popular.

    Not at all. AC/DC is the greatest rock band of all time and one of the highest selling.

  52. Nick

    Looks around, ahhhh, nice and quiet. Hmm, what’s in the liquor cabinet? IT’s cans of West End, nope, Joanna’s empty vodka bottles, nope, ahh, here it is, Zulu’s Lagavulin. Takes one of Dr. BG’s Cubans and relaxes.

  53. Mark A

    Infidel Tiger
    #2593635, posted on December 25, 2017 at 5:07 pm

    Not a great fan of AR as I mentioned before but Mark Steyn’s taste of music is not far from pedestrian.

    Steyn is the world’s foremost expert in Broadway and Americans standards.

    You probably have Rod Stewart on your Sony Walkman.

    Wash your mouth!
    Besides who the hell is he?

  54. Nick

    Not a great fan of AR as I mentioned before but Mark Steyn’s taste of music is not far from pedestrian.

    Anyone who has a CD of tunes devoted to a Cat theme should be banished from the village.

  55. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    ahh, here it is, Zulu’s Lagavulin.

    Sliante!

  56. Mark A

    Mark A
    #2593639, posted on December 25, 2017 at 5:13 pm

    Steyn is the world’s foremost expert in Broadway and Americans standards

    You said it not me..

  57. Zatara

    To the kids who aren’t home tonight. The ones eating a bit of candy from a “to any soldier” holiday box. Wiping their weapons lens. Settling in for another night of scanning for bad guys.

    Happy Christmas, you are remembered.

  58. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Happy Christmas, you are remembered.

    Well said.

  59. DrBeauGan

    Jupes, if you are in Perth next week and have the time, I’d like to stand you dinner at a restaurant I know. Email me.

    Mark A, taste in music isn’t static. Pointing out the weakness in a piece or a performer can help someone move on. At sixteen I was enamoured of Tchaikovsky’s piano concerto no. 1. I played a tape recording hundreds of times, pausing only for sleep until I saw the flaws in it. Had someone with better judgment pointed them out I might have saved some time.

    Nobody is sneering at bogans. Tastes vary, which only adds to the interest of life. I don’t have any interest in lots of music or art because I know better stuff. It’s out there waiting for the bogans to find. Good luck to them finding it.

  60. Top Ender

    Our Christmas lunch down the Track was distinguished by an unexpected guest in the form of a 70cm children’s python.

    The lady of the house announced his presence with a loud squeak when going outside to dispose of some prawn scraps.

    Mr or Mrs Python was safely removed to the bush.

  61. Tom

    First time ever was starving before Christmas lunch (having inhaled only a modest amount of smoked ham off the bone + Dijon mustard for breakfast early). Necked four Coopers Mild Ale middies over a delicious lunch of roast pork and crackle + vegies to die for; + sister’s home-made milk choccy and liquer treats, then plum pud and brandy cream; insty Moccona coffee to die for and safely home.

    Purfick. At 24C. Plus two doggy trays of yummy extras taken home for the cricket tomorrow.

    Hope all Cats enjoyed the day.

  62. Mark A

    #2593645, posted on December 25, 2017 at 5:23 pm
    Mark A, taste in music isn’t static.
    Agreed to a degree, my taste never included rock or God forbid rap. I like some popular and country but the in the main it was always opera or serious, with a bit of religious thrown in. The only difference was that I favored some composers over others during the years.
    ————————————————————–

    Pointing out the weakness in a piece or a performer can help someone move on.
    Maybe, but can’t see why?
    I reread books many times or listen to a performance of the same piece by different conductors and orchestras and find them different but no less enjoyable if I like the piece.

    I can’t stand the virtuosity of Liszt, and many of Chopin is just plain seeking popularity.
    ”””———————————-

    At sixteen I was enamoured of Tchaikovsky’s piano concerto no. 1. I played a tape recording hundreds of times, pausing only for sleep until I saw the flaws in it. Had someone with better judgment pointed them out I might have saved some time.

    Sorry to hear that. Good luck in finding the ‘perfect’ music.
    —————————————

    Nobody is sneering at bogans.

    Maybe not you but it surely came across to me like that.
    ———————————————————-

    Tastes vary, which only adds to the interest of life. It’s out there waiting for the bogans to find. Good luck to them finding it.

    Why? What if they are happy where they are.

    That’s what I was meaning, when I posted “it’s entertainment, let people enjoy it” if you don’t like lump it.

  63. wivenhoe

    With regards to music, I have no idea(you get that when you are deaf), but I think the only thing that makes any music, is the silence between notes. No silence, no music just noise.

  64. DrBeauGan

    Most people grow until their teens and then stop. Some go on longer. And some don’t stop until they die. It’s my good fortune to be in the last group.

    Rap isn’t music. More like really bad poetry.

  65. Viva

    Greetings to Cats from a grey blustery Christmas in Wellington. Just spent the day with our nephew and his wife’s many Greek-Rumanian rellies with many wonderful cooks among their number. The table was groaning with exotic dishes as well as traditional ham and turkey. Home made backclava sat beside traditional pav, trifle and fruit cake. There was also a Tongan contingent related by marriage.

    The marquee set up in the back garden was blown down by the wind. That’s Wellington weather for you!

  66. Bron

    Suggest you revisit Tchaik 1, DrBeauGan.

  67. Zatara

    One night a Viking named Rudolph the Red was looking out the window when he said, “It’s going to rain.”

    His wife asked, “How do you know?”

    “Because Rudolph the Red knows rain, dear.”

  68. Gab

    Oh boy, am I full! Antipasto, lasagna that melts in your mouth, BBQ’s chicken, pork spare ribs, turkey, salads, seafood, vegetables, pavlova, trifle, Italian almond biscuits, lemon myrtle ice-cream (all home-made foods), champagne , wine … I won’t need to eat for a week!

    Great day, hope all Cats had a good day too.

  69. Tintarella di Luna

    Wishing and hoping all Cats had good times for today’s Christmas celebrations with the people you love. Ours was a very small late lunch with just close family due to people working, very delicious with some very nice dessert followed by liqueurs all made by my very accomplished DIL – tomorrow will be a cast of thousands for a resurgent Boxing Day get-together.

    Best wishes to all

  70. Zatara
    #2593659, posted on December 25, 2017 at 6:36 pm

    Zatara, that was so bad it was good.

  71. Tintarella di Luna

    Oh boy, am I full! Antipasto, lasagna that melts in your mouth, BBQ’s chicken, pork spare ribs, turkey, salads, seafood, vegetables, pavlova, trifle, Italian almond biscuits, lemon myrtle ice-cream (all home-made foods), champagne , wine … I won’t need to eat for a week!

    Wow Gab sounds like YOU had the Boxing Day lunch that’s on at our place tomorrow – can hardly wait – nothing like sharing a meal with the people we love – Christmas is great because of family (and sometimes in spite of) thank goodness the good will kicks in.

  72. DrBeauGan

    Bron
    #2593657, posted on December 25, 2017 at 6:27 pm
    Suggest you revisit Tchaik 1, DrBeauGan.

    Once you’ve got to Johann Sebastian there’s no going back, Bron.

    I liked the chick in the mini-skirt, but the concerto has a big blustery head and tails off into nothing much. Tchaikovsky has some nice melodies but no real structure, and once you’ve noticed it’s no longer possible to get excited. Not for me anyway.

    I’m not trying to force my preferences on anyone, a world full of clones of me would be frightful. Someone said to me long ago when I told him I was wild about Tchaikovsky that he envied me the wonderful journey I was on to encounter more beautiful music. That was kind and tactful. I pass the message on to you. It’s true. There’s music out there that will touch your soul in ways Tchaikovsky cannot. Best of luck exploring.

  73. Gab

    Absolutely, Tinta. Goodwill supported/encouraged by copious amounts of good food and alcohol!

    My ex-MIL’s lasagne (made from scratch, natch) is heavenly!

  74. Leigh Lowe

    Chockers and shitfaced.
    Please disregad any comms from me until 0100 26th Dec.

  75. Zatara

    Turkey with oyster stuffing, very fresh venison roast, cajun steamed prawns, steamed veggies, both pecan and pumpkin pies.

    Yum.

    Now where did I put that nice gift of Islay single malt?

  76. C.L.

    Oh boy, am I full! Antipasto, lasagna that melts in your mouth, BBQ’s chicken, pork spare ribs, turkey, salads, seafood, vegetables, pavlova, trifle, Italian almond biscuits, lemon myrtle ice-cream (all home-made foods), champagne , wine … I won’t need to eat for a week!

    Gab wins the foodanet today.
    Oh how I love lasagna. Will do anything for woman who feeds me from-scratch lasagna.

  77. calli

    Chockers and shitfaced.

    Mr Creosote here. Just rolled in the door, have exactly 12 hours to recover enough for another spell of cooking for lunch tomorrow.

    That will be prawn terrine, glazed ham and turkey leftovers plus sundry salads and pav.

    Aaaarrrggggh! Kaboom!

  78. DrBeauGan

    Bron, you play everything you like and don’t take a scrap of notice of what others think. The only reason for listening to the opinions of others is that sometimes they may suggest something you don’t like until you’ve heard it several times.

    I’ve posted this before. See what you think.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E0BalQMrVDU

  79. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Now where did I put that nice gift of Islay single malt?

    The big choice later on, is between Lagavulin, or the Laphroig Select Cask. There may be a trip to Dan Murphy’s to replenish stocks, before the New Year.

  80. Infidel Tiger

    I love cold lasagna and pizza. In fact I love all Italian food cold.

    Nothing better than hoeing into a bowl of cold spag bol when you are so hungover your hair hurts.

  81. Infidel Tiger

    On that subject one of Australia’s fee contributions to world cuisine is a jaffle full of spagbol.

  82. calli

    jaffle full of spagbol.

    With centre like the sun’s core.

  83. Baldrick

    Chockers and shitfaced.

    Chockers yes. Shitfaced, still working on it. 🎅🎄🎁🍻

  84. Bron

    Thanks, DrBeauGan, I enjoyed that. Quite a stretch from Moscow in 1874 to Venice in the early 18th century. From the ultra romantic, almost bombastic to the sublime.

    I do encourage Cats with an interest in classical music but not knowing quite where to start to enjoy both of these works. The Tchaikovsky is a well know gateway work that can make symphonic music suddenly accessible, as perhaps it did for you DrBeauGan.

  85. DrBeauGan

    Yes, it did, Bron, and I’m forever grateful to Tchaikovsky and the school friend who recognised my whistling the opening bars and made a copy of the whole thing. And started something wonderful.

  86. Zatara

    memoryvault

    Don’t get me started on Florist Fliars….

  87. DrBeauGan

    The Çat is really good for sharing the things you like. But I think I’ll pass on the cold pizza, I T.

  88. Infidel Tiger

    Cold pizza is better than hot pizza.

  89. wivenhoe

    Cold pizza is better than hot pizza.

    But that is not saying much.

  90. Siltstone

    Thanks 123andBush, a bit of Nigella culinary porn is always welcome.

  91. Tintarella di Luna

    That will be prawn terrine, glazed ham and turkey leftovers plus sundry salads and pav.

    calli you’re a wonder! take it easy.

  92. classical_hero

    Mark A, Rod Stewart is famous for marrying Rachel Hunter.

  93. Mark A

    classical_hero
    #2593688, posted on December 25, 2017 at 8:04 pm

    Mark A, Rod Stewart is famous for marrying Rachel Hunter.

    Thanks CH, I’m not trying to be cute, I have no idea who some of these ‘famous’ oft quoted people are. My interests are elsewhere. Looked up Rachel Hunter, this Stewart fellow must have something going for him.

  94. stackja

    Rod Maggie May before RH.

  95. notafan

    Merry Christmas peops.

    I have an affection for cold 🍕, acquired as a traveller.

    Two more sleeps and I’ll be on my way again to Pizzaland.

    One missing from our Christmas celebrations this year. A fine young man serving his country in the ME, we also had one teeny tiny addition to the gang.

    Four weeks old, so precious.

  96. Ragu

    jaffle full of spagbol.

    With centre like the sun’s core.

    You’re a real gem Calli. My absolute best to you and your family

  97. Mark A

    stackja
    #2593690, posted on December 25, 2017 at 8:17 pm

    Rod Maggie May before RH.

    One learns something every day, not sure if it’s instructive or beneficial but there you go.

  98. classical_hero

    Mark A, he was actually a rock singer. That allowed him to marry a famous model.

  99. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Mark A, he was actually a rock singer. That allowed him to marry a famous model.

    Who he divorced nine years later.

  100. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    One missing from our Christmas celebrations this year. A fine young man serving his country in the ME

    Wish him well, from one of the “old and bold, and ruthless and toothless” would you?

  101. Mark A

    classical_hero
    #2593694, posted on December 25, 2017 at 8:21 pm

    Mark A, he was actually a rock singer. That allowed him to marry a famous model.

    Now I know, no wonder I didn’t know before.

    Going up north to the family farm tonight, staying for the rest of the year.
    Looking forward to it. The lot of us together once a year.

  102. C.L.

    For CL

    Thanks, Busho!
    Nigella looking good.
    But seeing her with Matt Lauer … just wrong.

  103. Infidel Tiger

    Did anyone have roast goose?

    I was watching that fat lisping nazi Jamie Oliver prepare a goose this week like it was a normal middle class thing to do. He then prepared roast goose empanadas for leftovers. That sounds completely normal.

    Meanwhile Nigella was having a bath in double cream and talking about properly hung ham.

  104. C.L.

    There is no break from winning …

    Donald J. [email protected]

    People are proud to be saying Merry Christmas again. I am proud to have led the charge against the assault of our cherished and beautiful phrase. MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!!

  105. C.L.

    Meanwhile Nigella was having a bath in double cream and talking about properly hung ham.

    Is there a vid? 🙂

  106. calli

    And the very best to you too Ragu.

  107. candy

    Meanwhile Nigella was having a bath in double cream and talking about properly hung ham.
    Is there a vid? 🙂

    Methinks you need a lady in the vicinity , C.L. There’s probably a few hanging around Catallaxy who can cook a decent lasagne. I mean, what’s so special about lasagne? Lots of good quality cheese, natural tomato sauce with moderate spice not overpowering for your mince. A good texture is most important. The beautiful tomato flavour is the big thing.

  108. Gab

    Note to self: get exMIL to teach you how to make her lasagna from scratch in 2018.

    🙂

  109. Geriatric Mayfly

    Looks like everyone who has reported in, had a great day under an avalanche of cuisine in the highest orders. Hope this also applied to those absent. For me ditto. But, how embarrassment to have to beg of the hosts a Nexium to assuage the upper digestive tract. .

  110. DrBeauGan

    Why do women always think that every man needs a woman to do their cooking for them?

  111. JC

    Cold pizza ? That’s barbaric, Artiste.

    My mother used to make the best lasagna – on par with Minis pizza on Lex, which after 40 years has closed down because the landlord was a greedy douchebag.

  112. Makka

    Did anyone have roast goose?

    Yes! The goose feast included red cabbage done Cherman style with roasted veg , washed down with a fine Pinot. Followed by pudding and rum custard. The entre was left over prawns lobster tails we couldn’t polish off last night.

    Haven’t had goose in decades and the butcher did a stupendous job of the stuffing too ; apple, peaches, figs and apricots.

    Enjoy your Christmas Cats.

  113. Gab

    couldn’t polish off last night.

    Ooh that reminds me, last night was cocktails and champagne and roast lamb cooked on the webber with roast veges and I made a lovely lemon syrup cake decorated with fresh red currants and served with mascapone plus a passionfruit slice. I left the party before the others as I wanted to go to midnight Mass. All on my own as I associate with heathens! 😀

  114. JC

    I hate duck and always refused to go near goose because I thought it tastes the same.

  115. Gab

    And prawns! We had luscious prawns. No one can peel prawns as fast as me!

  116. Infidel Tiger

    Yes! The goose feast included red cabbage done Cherman style with roasted veg , washed down with a fine Pinot. Followed by pudding and rum custard. The entre was left over prawns lobster tails we couldn’t polish off last night.

    Haven’t had goose in decades and the butcher did a stupendous job of the stuffing too ; apple, peaches, figs and apricots.

    Holy cow! That is amazing.

    Invite me next year and I’ll bring some quality piss.

  117. calli

    And prawns! We had luscious prawns. No one can peel prawns as fast as me!

    Race youse, Gab!

  118. Gab

    I love a challenge. You’re on, Calli!

  119. Infidel Tiger

    Hw can you hate duck? Chicken is blander than a Greens holiday party.

    Duck has character and presence. Duck pancakes and hoisin sauce is viagra for the soul.

  120. Makka

    I hate duck and always refused to go near goose because I thought it tastes the same.

    Your palate must be all fkd up.

  121. zyconoclast

    Minneapolis To Reduce Police Psych Testing After Screening Out Too Many Minorities
    The city of Minneapolis may fire its police psychology evaluator because his tests screened out too many minority candidates, despite already lowering psych evaluations far below the national standard.

  122. Snoopy

    I see there’s an African wasp alert out for Melbourne.

  123. Mike of Marion

    Just polished off a Kingston SE Crayfish – absolutely magnificent

  124. JC

    Duck has a taste I can’t stand. It’s quite strong. It’s also very greasy meat.

    Does goose taste like duck?

  125. Infidel Tiger

    I see there’s an African wasp alert out for Melbourne.

    Police advise citizens to let the wasps sting you until they feel free to move on.

  126. Ragu

    There’s two types of duck and goose.

    Breeding or eating.

  127. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    The city of Minneapolis may fire its police psychology evaluator because his tests screened out too many minority candidates, despite already lowering psych evaluations far below the national standard.

    So how many more people are going to get shot, for ringing the cops?

  128. zyconoclast

    ‘An embarrassment’: Anger in Sweden over gang [email protected] acquittals

    Five men accused of a 2016 gang [email protected] in the Stockholm suburb of Fittja were acquitted of all crimes on Tuesday in a move the accuser’s lawyer called an “embarrassment for legal system.”

    Senior Judge Erica Hemtke found the lead witness’s account of the events was unreliable and there was not enough evidence available to the court to prosecute.

    The prosecution alleged the victim was brutally assaulted by up to 20 men in the stairwell of an apartment building. They further alleged that two of the men on trial filmed the incident, though the court could find no evidence of this.

    The judge conceded there were “shortcomings” in the investigation and found “the evidence the prosecutor provided simply isn’t sufficient for someone to be convicted.”

    Members of the public and the accuser’s lawyer have expressed concern over how police investigated the alleged [email protected], saying not enough care was taken with the investigation.

    The acquittal has left thousands of Swedes outraged, sparking a storm on social media and demonstrations across the country.

    Local activists have long expressed concern about the difficulty of successfully prosecuting sexual assault cases.

    The outrage surrounding the decision also comes in the midst of Sweden’s powerful take on the #Metoo movement.

    Since the hashtag took off in October, the country has been reeling from a flood of stories of sexual assault and harassment.

    The incident has also sparked renewed conversations in Sweden about Islamophobia. Fittja is a predominantly Muslim suburb and all of the accused were immigrants to Sweden.

  129. Ragu

    You can cook up a breeding duck, but it’ll taste like shit. Even the liver ain’t worth saving. Eggs and an alarm is all they are worth.

  130. zyconoclast

    Guess which country recently built a 1,700-mile wall to keep illegals out

    Would it surprise you to learn that another country built a 1,700-mile wall to keep illegal aliens out? Would you be surprised to learn that we are not talking about the Great Wall of China, but something built recently, in the 1980s, by a small, impoverished country with only a fraction of the resources of the United States?

    If you know the country I’m talking about, give yourself a gold star.

    The country I’m talking about is Morocco! In the 1980s, Morocco made a land grab in the sparsely populated territory to the south called the Western Sahara. It has a problem with illegals infiltrating, and so Morocco built a 1,700-mile wall to keep them out. And it took only five or six years to build!

    Map

    The fortifications lie in uninhabited or very sparsely inhabited territory. They consist of sand and stone walls or berms about 3 m (10 ft) in height, with bunkers, fences and landmines throughout. The barrier minebelt that runs along the structure is thought to be the longest continuous minefield in the world.[5]

    Morocco built the wall because it was fighting a war with rebels called the Polisario Front. It was also confronted with the problem of illegal immigration.

    In the summer of 2005, the Moroccan Army accelerated the expulsion (started in late 2004) of illegal immigrants detained in northern Morocco to the eastern side of the wall, into the Free Zone.

    Liberals insist that America doesn’t have the resources to build a border wall. But here we see that a tiny, poor country built an enormous border wall in a short space of time.

    When it comes to border security, can’t we do at least as well as Morocco?

  131. calli

    Duck has to have the fat properly rendered. It still tastes a little “gamey” but delicious, particularly if the skin is crisp. I serve mine with a sauce based on pomegranate molasses. Mmmmmm.

  132. Bruce in WA

    Sun very ,ow on the yardarm here in Perth. The end of three Christmas day dinners in a row (i.e. one a day for three days). Full-on turkey, ham (and pork) roast veg, greens, gravies, pav, Christmas pud with custard and brandy sauce. Tired, but happy. Been a good Christmas for a Christmas tragic (me!). I love the lights, and the tinsel, and the carols, and the food, and the paper-wrapped presents under the tree — everything!

    Watching my grandkids open their present, and the happy faces around the table, eating food I’d cooked with love, makes this old heart happy.

    Merry Christmas, Cats, and Dr Professor Sir Doomlord. Merry Christmas and thank you for letting me be just a little part of a great institution.

  133. Geriatric Mayfly

    I see there’s an African wasp alert out for Melbourne.

    African Wasps normally go to bed at night, unless a strong urge to be out and about affects them unduly.

  134. 132andBush

    But seeing her with Matt Lauer … just wrong.

    There was someone else???!!!

  135. Geriatric Mayfly

    A Pennsylvania utility customer got the shock of her life after checking on her monthly electric bill and seeing that she owed $284 billion.
    “My eyes just about popped out of my head,” Erie homeowner Mary Horomanski, 58, told the Erie Times-News. “We had put up Christmas lights and I wondered if we had put them up wrong.”
    Horomanski checked her account statement online earlier this month and saw that she was being zapped for $284,460,000,000 by Penelec, her electric provider.
    Fox News.

    Coming soon to an Account Rendered (Tax Invoice) in your letter box.

  136. Just finished watching the latest remake of Dunkirk.
    That’s an hour and three quarters of my life I’ll never get back.

  137. Leo G

    “We had put up Christmas lights and I wondered if we had put them up wrong.”

    What’s to go wrong with a ’59 model Clark Griswold 25,000 twinkle light set?

  138. Just finishing up Christmas Lunch (urp!) (Starting time was 2:30pm)
    Food was a soup table with 2 of the nicest soups (best tomato soup I’ve ever tasted) and an array of meats, cracklings, fried rice & curries plus a table of chutneys.
    And all you can drink, of whatever you’re drinking.

    The “all you can drink” aspect of it means the lightweights have drifted off.
    The contingent was Five Buddhists, Five Muslims, Six Christians (the word “Christian” is being used quite loosely).

    There has not been a retirement from the Christian contingent (they’re still belting down spirits or heavy beer), however there’s only one Buddhist remaining on their feet, and none of the Muslims.
    Hopefully this is an omen with broader meaning.

  139. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Just finished watching the latest remake of Dunkirk.
    That’s an hour and three quarters of my life I’ll never get back.

    That bad?

  140. Ragu

    Duck should be cooked skin side down in a skillet with a little bit of butter. Never turn it over.

  141. zapped for $284,460,000,000 by Penelec, her electric provider

    I don’t know Penelec’s business, but I’ll go out on a limb & say their entire customer base isn’t usually billed that much in a month.
    This may be a clue something is wonky.

  142. That bad?

    Not “bad”, Zulu. Just bloody boring.
    Great acting, pitiful directing, and no actual storyline.

  143. Duck should be cooked skin side down in a skillet with a little bit of butter. Never turn it over.

    Duck is not easy to cook. Many chefs will not (or should not) touch it.
    It is a fatty meat, that’s for sure.
    But once you learn to cook it, duck is fantastic. So much can be done with it.

  144. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger

    #2593637, posted on December 25, 2017 at 5:11 pm

    There seems to be a problem here; about popular musicians being popular.

    Not at all. AC/DC is the greatest rock band of all time and one of the highest selling.
    Honestly that is truth.
    I have had only a passing interest in the A.C. & D.C.s over the years but took a closer interest recently following the passing of Malcolm Young.
    Their live performances are pure energy.
    Andre Rieu could take a leaf out of their book.

  145. min

    I was very pleasantly surprised today. 16 yr old grandson who was lucky enough to be Drum Major of pipe band that played Mull of Kintyre at Paul McCartney concerts here so was introduced to Beatles and Wings music virtually by flooding asked for gramophone player and vinyl records for Xmas
    Top of the pile were Abbey Road and Beatles hits.
    Next family gave me Dangerous and g’ son told me that a couple of his mates went to see Milo , so we had a talk about what they thought , what Milo talks about etc . Interesting to find out 16 yr olds being interested in Milo so offered him the book to read when I had finished.
    We also talked about subjects he would be studying next year , thank goodness he is doing another history subject . This year he studied ME history from WW II. And was good to find out he was not presented with any leftie versions although I thought one needed to know about history there prior to understand present day . He knew the capital of Israel which is more than my neighbour who worked in Jordan in diplomatic (British) service who said it was Tel Aviv.
    All my son’s outlaws were there today . They are genuinely. Nice people but like the average voter out there clueless about energy , why Hazlewood closed and thought. all the batteries would give us enough energy to run the state . I am appalled at the brainwashed ignorance out there. A few blackouts will prod them a bit.

  146. zyconoclast

    Just finished watching the latest remake of Dunkirk.
    That’s an hour and three quarters of my life I’ll never get back

    You are disappointed at the lack of diversity actors?

  147. Makka

    Great acting, pitiful directing, and no actual storyline.

    I suspect also a pitiful props budget. You see wartime pics of Dunkirk and it’s approaches and there be the mountains of crap and detritus an army on the run leaves behind. This movie makes it look like a day by the seaside.

  148. zyconoclast

    I suspect also a pitiful props budget. You see wartime pics of Dunkirk and it’s approaches and there be the mountains of crap and detritus an army on the run leaves behind. This movie makes it look like a day by the seaside.

    a day by the seaside

  149. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    You are disappointed at the lack of diversity actors?

    A lack of actors playing gay, lesbian and transgender soldiers in the British Army of 1940?

  150. Siltstone

    Gentle lightening, gentle thunder,and tbe start if a sub-tropical drenching. The frogs are going berserk, and the mossies are nowhere to be seen, heard or felt. The dogs are satiated, and there is a bottle of WA dry white to enjoy on the deck while listening to the rain.

  151. zyconoclast

    You are disappointed at the lack of diversity actors?

    A lack of actors playing gay, lesbian and transgender soldiers in the British Army of 1940?

    Would have been ideal

  152. Peter

    ..latest remake of Dunkirk

    The lead actor’s hair was too long and near the end of the movie, they climbed aboard a train with 80’s cloth seats. Oh, and the director had little understanding of how far and fast even a 1940s fighter aircraft can fly in the blink of an eye.

  153. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Would have been ideal

    Curse you..

  154. Leigh Lowe

    Duck is not easy to cook. Many chefs will not (or should not) touch it.

    If someone purporting to be a chef ever darkens your door and says duck in any form is “too hard to cook” tell him/her to fuck off.
    Anything from whole duck to breast to confit leg should be bread and butter to anyone claiming to be a half decent cook.

  155. Dunkirk participants weren’t thick on the ground in Australia, for obvious reasons.
    The one person I knew of who was there (rest his soul) told a gathering of grownups at a BBQ or something, that his dominant memory of it was the sheer waste of machinery. (This was to farmers – who understood machinery, and the cost of it).
    He’d arrived there in a truck or something, been ordered to leave the engine running and unscrew the sump plug.
    They then had to walk what seemed miles to the beach, through what was a traffic jam (horizon to horizon by the way he told it) of assorted military vehicles, all with likewise deliberately seized engines.
    He wondered how the Germans ever cleared the mess.

  156. Infidel Tiger

    Leigh you should of always comment when you are full of ink! No prisoners!

  157. Infidel Tiger

    Meghan Markle has attended the Royal Christmas Day service at St Mary Magdalene Church with Prince Harry.

    Good.

    The forced conversion is helping both of them.

  158. If someone purporting to be a chef ever darkens your door and says duck in any form is “too hard to cook” tell him/her to fuck off.

    Just as many people say they can drive, or that they can hold their drink, or whatever, but plainly can’t, so too do many claim to be chefs (including able to cook duck), but plainly can’t.

  159. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Dunkirk participants weren’t thick on the ground in Australia, for obvious reasons.
    The one person I knew of who was there (rest his soul) told a gathering of grownups at a BBQ or something, that his dominant memory of it was the sheer waste of machinery. (This was to farmers – who understood machinery, and the cost of it).

    I don’t have a reference handy, and it flies in the face of the myth of the badly under equipped British Expeditionary Force, but German military elements were stunned at the lavish scale of motor transport left behind – albeit sabotaged – at a time when Wehrmacht supply columns were largely horse drawn. In fact, when the British Army completed full mechanization in 1936, redundant horses were sold to the Wehrmacht..A British battery commander, captured outside Dunkirk, noted that all the horses in the nearby supply column were branded with the British “broad arrow” on their hooves..

  160. JC

    All I asked was if goose is similar tasting to duck. It wasn’t meant to start a debate on the finer points cooking duck. I still don’t know if they’re similar tastes.

  161. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger

    #2593762, posted on December 25, 2017 at 11:06 pm

    Leigh you should of always comment when you are full of ink! No prisoners!

    Well fuck it … if ink free commenting is what you want tune in Wednesday mornings.
    I did issue a warning earlier..

  162. Knuckle Dragger

    I found out whilst in Melbourne that my 12 year old niece is going to a different school next year. From Newport to Fitzroy, which means walking to Newport station, on the train to the City and again on the hoof from Parliament station to school and back. She’s never done it before, and is going to make the trips with her neighbour and classmate.

    Having worked in the western suburbs, the CBD and Fitzroy and mindful of the feral infestation in all three places, I’ve given her some survival tips. They involve biting, scratching and as much blunt impact as possible to the eyes, throat and nuts. And screaming, plenty of screaming.

    I’ll be damned if any niece of mine is going into that environment on a daily basis unprepared in this area. I hope she never has to use those little tricks though.

  163. Ragu

    Similar but not the same same

  164. Leigh Lowe

    JC
    Goose does not taste like duck.
    Duck tastes a little bit like bottle nosed dolphin eye fillet whereas goose is more like minke whale brisket.
    Totally different.

  165. Bruce in WA

    Gentle lightening, gentle thunder,and tbe start if a sub-tropical drenching. The frogs are going berserk, and the mossies are nowhere to be seen, heard or felt. The dogs are satiated, and there is a bottle of WA dry white to enjoy on the deck while listening to the rain.

    Beautiful.

    After a heavy day’s food, I made just a French onion soup with a toast and grilled cheese on top.

    Just right to finish off the day.

  166. Leigh Lowe

    I believe Malcolm Turnbull will achieve Absolute Greatness early in 2018.

  167. Bruce in WA

    JC
    Goose does not taste like duck.
    Duck tastes a little bit like bottle nosed dolphin eye fillet whereas goose is more like minke whale brisket.
    Totally different.

    Whatever you do, don’t try koala kebabs. Bit like something your mum used to rub on your chest for a cold when you were a kid.

  168. Bruce in WA

    I believe Malcolm Turnbull will achieve Absolute Greatness early in 2018.

    You’ve been drinking, haven’t you.

  169. Leigh Lowe

    Can someone please advise what is the appropriate srevi
    ing size for Creme de Menthe.
    I am starting to tKe tje vew that 285 mlll is two mutch.

  170. Leigh Lowe

    You’ve been drinking, haven’t you.

    A litlw bit but knot too egsess.
    All goid here tks v mutch.

  171. W Hogg

    Duck has a taste I can’t stand. It’s quite strong. It’s also very greasy meat.

    Does goose taste like duck?

    I love a good Peking duck, with the best being in Roppongi. (Which annoys my mates from Peking)

    If you hate duck, don’t waste your money on Goose – it’s duck-squared. More of the strong taste, more greasy.

  172. Leigh Lowe

    Whatever you do, don’t try koala kebabs. Bit like something your mum used to rub on your chest for a cold when you were a kid.

    Koala is slow cooker meat.
    Not BBQ.
    Tough as Wombat.

  173. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Having worked in the western suburbs, the CBD and Fitzroy and mindful of the feral infestation in all three places, I’ve given her some survival tips. They involve biting, scratching and as much blunt impact as possible to the eyes, throat and nuts. And screaming, plenty of screaming.

    The advice the next generation of my mob were given was “scratch as much as you can, and go for the face.” He’ll be marked, and they’ll get enough DNA from under your fingernails to identify the prick.

    Help your niece to go home, boil a soft boiled egg, and ram her thumb or finger into the egg. If she can do that, she can ram a thumb or finger into someone’s eye. Biting is a useful tool.

    A Warrant Officer of the Special Air Service Regiment, ran self defence courses specifically designed for young women. I’m going back a few years, but that’ s what he taught the next generation of my mob.

  174. Infidel Tiger

    Anyone tried lesbian?

  175. Bruce in WA

    Koala is slow cooker meat.
    Not BBQ.
    Tough as Wombat.

    Just like quokka!!

    Anyone tried lesbian?

    Couldn’t eat a whole one!

  176. Bruce in WA

    Though I could try …

  177. Can someone please advise what is the appropriate sreving size for Creme de Menthe.

    Here, let Billy Connolly help you with that.

  178. Leigh Lowe

    Anyone tried lesbian?

    Bitter and tough.
    Worse than Sumatran Tiger.

  179. Goose – it’s duck-squared

    Thank you for the information W Hogg.
    Been reading about goose lately (& how ham is “poor man’s goose”) and decided to give it a try.
    We’re also going to try a Royal Roast (I believe the Yankees crassly have popularised this as a “turducken” by substituting goose with turkey)
    When we think we’re pretty good, we’re going for a 5-bird Royal Roast.

    On current form, we’ll be ordering in the quail & pheasant about the year 3,000

  180. The advice the next generation of my mob were given was “scratch as much as you can, and go for the face.” He’ll be marked, and they’ll get enough DNA from under your fingernails to identify the prick.

    All good. But first, grab the guy’s belt or trouser waist band, and pull close in – almost like a lover’s embrace. Then, while holding on for grim death with the left hand, inflict as much damage as possible to the face with the right. To a large extent this negates a man’s superior reach and upper body strength.

  181. Siltstone

    Bruce in WA

    It was Vicks Vapour Rub that mums rubbed onto the chests of afflicted children. Can still smell it. Wasn’t so bad. A placebo?

  182. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    All good. But first, grab the guy’s belt or trouser waist band, and pull close in – almost like a lover’s embrace. Then, while holding on for grim death with the left hand, inflict as much damage as possible to the face with the right. To a large extent this negates a man’s superior reach and upper body strength.

    Fair comment, Memory Vault, thank you.

  183. Knuckle Dragger

    ZK,

    Yep. She hasn’t got the size to unload a baddie-flattening left hook like her uncle KD, but she’s got the fingernails, leg speed and voice to get the job done.

    She also accidentally roundhouse kicked her younger sister straight in the face yesterday while leaping over a couch, so hopefully she’ll get the job done if required.

  184. Bruce in WA

    It was Vicks Vapour Rub that mums rubbed onto the chests of afflicted children. Can still smell it. Wasn’t so bad. A placebo?

    My darling mum rubbing my chest would lull me into sleep anyway. But the Vicks certainly helped the breathing. She would put a tiny amount under my nose too. Sadly, she’s long gone now. Makes Christmas a little less cheerful.

  185. Siltstone

    Min @ 10:40pm
    A good news story, thanks.

  186. Bruce in WA

    Young lady friend of mine who worked at nights as a singer always carried her car keys in her hand, bunched in the palm, with the longest key protruding through her fingers, to be used as a rake against anyone’s face. I do it now too.

  187. Knuckle Dragger

    MV,

    That’ll work if you’re holding the belt at the base of the spine and you can go to work from behind him. If you haven’t got the size or strength and hold from the front the villain can work with two hands compared to your one, and in close for any more than half a second or so and you’re liable to be eye gouged yourself, bitten or having your own throat torn at, or head butted.

    Best case scenario involves the niece sprinting down Exhibition Street waving the baddie’s testicle above her head, in which case I will fly back down for the occasion. I’ll then souvenir said nut, take it back up home, lacquer it, take it to a trophy shop and have it sat on top of a decorative stand, complete with an adequately descriptive stand.

    Then I’ll fly back down to Melbourne with it, and present it to her on her next birthday. Happy days.

  188. Knuckle Dragger

    Adequately descriptive plaque, rather.

  189. Siltstone

    W Hogg @ 1:29pm nailed it about the perfidity of the Victorian “police”. What a sewer.

  190. Leo G

    I believe Malcolm Turnbull will achieve Absolute Greatness early in 2018.

    Sublime is 30 losing Newspolls then?

  191. If you haven’t got the size or strength and hold from the front the villain can work with two hands compared to your one, and in close for any more than half a second or so

    All possibly true, KD, however, these things are usually decided in the first thirty seconds or so. When a woman is grabbed her first reaction is to try and pull away. The man is expecting that. He is stronger, and if she does break away, he is faster. Her second reaction is to try and stand off, and lash out. Again, the man is expecting that. His superior reach takes care of it.

    On the other hand, if she grabs hold and pulls herself in close, he is not expecting that. It is more difficult for him to king hit her -at least for a few moments, or even head but her, given that she is probably shorter and her head is now close to his chest.

    Her right hand is free – again, at least for a few moments, to inflict damage to the face, as outlined by Zulu. The idea is, in those few short moments, to inflict as much pain as is possible, thereby creating a chance to run away. It is not a Karate Kid movie sequel. There is no “winning”. Only escaping.

  192. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Best case scenario involves the niece sprinting down Exhibition Street waving the baddie’s testicle above her head, in which case I will fly back down for the occasion. I’ll then souvenir said nut, take it back up home, lacquer it, take it to a trophy shop and have it sat on top of a decorative stand, complete with an adequately descriptive stand.

    Then I’ll fly back down to Melbourne with it, and present it to her on her next birthday. Happy days.

    Post the story on the Cat. A big bloke, with dark hair, a blue shirt, and a vocabulary in Afrikaans will be the Western Australian contingent. You’ll recognise Memory Vault, and I’ll pay his fare. This could get interesting…

  193. Oh come on

    Can someone please advise what is the appropriate sreving size for Creme de Menthe.

    You have clearly run out of decent (ie. drinkable) booze and are delving into the dark, dark recesses of your liquor cabinet which last saw daylight in the early 1970s. Don’t do it. If you need a drink that badly, take an Uber to the casino. Creme de Menthe – just…no.

  194. Bruce in WA

    Creme de menthe and lemonade … 50/50 … in a pint glass.

    Make sure the bedroom blinds are closed — tightly — before you get into bed.

  195. Knuckle Dragger

    MV,

    Don’t necessarily disagree at all – the specific ‘martial arts’ techniques, unless you train for them each and every day and the muscle memory is ingrained, is useless. These things happen fast. As you say, the keys are to inflict damage, create distance and noise. Lots of noise. If there’s no-one on a Melbourne train willing to assist a schoolgirl being attacked, its occupants should be strapped to anti aircraft gun barrels and sent to God North Korea style.

    The Maquis of Queensberry never had to ride the Footscray line. Nastier is better.

  196. Knuckle Dragger

    And yes – open bar for Cats at the birthday party. Photos with the nut trophy will,be $10, with proceeds going to the niece in question.

  197. jupes

    Just flew in to Perth.

    The bad news is the fucking Qantas baggage handlers smashed a bottle of my best Israeli Merlot. Pricks.

    The good news is that I have another dozen bottles of assorted boutique wine. The other bit of good news is that my hotel has free washing machines and dryers.

  198. Better get this in while it is still Christmas Day:

    Merry Christmas to all at the Cat.

  199. jupes

    I watched Dunkirk on the flight.

    I agree that there wasn’t much of a story there, but I loved the dog-fights. Superb cinematography.

  200. Siltstone

    Knuckles is right about noise. I used to live in a large SE Asian city. My favourite bar was 4 blocks from my digs, but not a safe walk. Forgot to take local transport one night, walked and was followed by 3 thugs, closing in. Luckily shit everywhere in the street, so grabbed a bit of wood from the gutter, turned around and ran at them screaming like a banshee. They ran away.. it was the noise and the suprise factor.

  201. Well, the storm has finally passed, and the front hasn’t flooded, so I can safely go to bed.
    Glad to read so many Cats had as good a Christmas Day as I did.
    Night all. A warm and cozy Mrs MV awaits. Life is good.

  202. Glad to read so many Cats had as good a Christmas Day as I did.
    Night all. A warm and cozy Mrs MV awaits. Life is good.

  203. Oh come on

    Trump’s 757 is mothballed and will be back in the skies as soon as he’s no longer Prez. An Air Force One 747 is a more impressive looking plane, but you can guarantee Trump’s personal ride is pimped out to a ridiculously high standard – far moreso than the Presidential jet. Which has to cart around the scummy press corps, for instance. And a flying situation room. And all of the assorted executive branch hangers-on. Whereas Trump Force One is dedicated just to transporting him however the hell he wants.

    Trump is seriously rich. His net worth may not be that impressive when compared to the likes of Warren Buffett, but Warren Buffett lives like my depression-era grandparents did.

  204. jupes

    but you can guarantee Trump’s personal ride is pimped out to a ridiculously high standard

    It has gold plated belt buckles.

  205. Oh come on

    The Air Force One airframes are getting pretty damn old, actually. Based on the 747-200, which the bloody Persians were flying before the revolution! Same with the Marine Force One helos. These things are getting into North Korean air force degrees of antiquity.

  206. Oh come on

    More winning:

    A day ahead of the Jerusalem vote, Trump said he’d be closely eyeing the outcome and turning off the spigot for nations voting against the resolution.

    “Well, we’re watching those votes. Let them vote against us. We’ll save a lot. We don’t care,” the President said at the time.

    But the President’s all talk, right? He just mouths off constantly, his brain’s in neutral, no need to take anything he says seriously, right?

    The Trump administration has worked out some “historic” belt-tightening at the United Nations, officials announced Sunday.

    The UN’s budget has been slashed by more than $285 million, according to Ambassador Nikki Haley, who said the cost cuts gutted the organization’s “bloated management.”

    Merry Christmas, fuckwads! And a happy new year – a very, very happy one when we start seeing targeted funding cuts for all of those anti-freedom nations suckling on the US-funded UN teat.

    (h/t: Insty)

  207. Oh come on

    Oops wondered what was with my avatar

  208. From their ABC:

    Prime Minister spends Christmas dancing in the streets of Kings Cross.

    I am not making this up (The above is the headline on the Facebook link)

  209. W Hogg

    From their ABC:

    Prime Minister spends Christmas dancing in the streets of Kings Cross.

    I am not making this up (The above is the headline on the Facebook link)

    Why would we think that was made up?

  210. W Hogg

    Answering my own Q of earlier today, the thought occurs to be:
    1) mass casualty by Muslim in VSSR
    2) corruption by senior Democrat

  211. Steve trickler.

    This is going to be noted and recorded in history, as the greatest vantage point and filming of an aircraft, at a airshow…. in all of human of history!

    It’s going to take a lot to beat this. Someone will have ascend further up the mountain.



  212. classical_hero

    KD, have you taught her to SING? From the movie “Miss Congeniality”? The four most sensitive parts of the male body. Solar plex, Instep, Nose and Groin.

  213. johanna

    Steve T, thanks for the Trump plane clip.

    ATC is a whole separate language, it seems.

    As a passenger, I’m relieved that they understand each other, even if no-one else can.

    Christmas update – after a champagne laced breakfast and a sumptuous dinner, I flaked. The dinner was in the traditional style – roast chicken with delicious stuffing, roast vegies in duck fat (yum!), plump and juicy mid sized prawns cooked in a scrumptious Asian sauce featuring chili and soy, home-made potato salad – you get the drift.

    A bit rich for my blood, though. I’m having a soft boiled egg and soldiers for breakfast. Definitely no champagne.

  214. feelthebern

    If you want to yell at the TV for a hour or so, watch Victoria & Abdul.
    I was recently forced into watching it.
    The re-writing of history is becoming 1984-like.

  215. Geriatric Mayfly

    Her Majesty The Queen has delivered her regular Christmas address to the United Kingdom and her Commonwealth allies, reflecting on the radical Islamic terrorism that tore through London and Manchester this year. Pivoting to the terrorist atrocities of this year, Her Majesty said: We think of our homes as places of warmth, familiarity and love; of shared stories and memories, which is perhaps why at this time of year so many return to where they grew up. There is a timeless simplicity to the pull of home.For many, the idea of “home” reaches beyond a physical building – to a home town or city. This Christmas, I think of London and Manchester, whose powerful identities shone through over the past twelve months in the face of appalling attacks. In Manchester, those targeted included children who had gone to see their favourite singer. A few days after the bombing, I had the privilege of meeting some of the young survivors and their parents.

    Mrs. May will not appreciate this. It will be handbags at 20 paces. HM’s speech goes on to espouse strong Christian sentiments, another mark on her ticket. However, that section of it makes for better reassurance than anything coming from that dill in the Vatican. Fidei Defendor indeed.

  216. johanna

    For Cats and kittehs who were not here yesterday, Andre Rieu featured a rousing version of Jerusalem in his Christmas show.

    I have met blokes like him in the Dutchie world. He’s a pantsman, a ruthless businessman, a jerk on many levels.

    But when it comes to defending his culture, there are no shades of grey. Doing Jerusalem with gusto at the Christmas show was as close as this canny impresario will go to making a political statement.

    He has never given a millimetre to Muslims, and I hope that he never will.

  217. johanna

    For those who need a laugh or two to get over their hangovers, here is a choice bit of Billy Connoly.

  218. Bruce of Newcastle

    Sean Delonas.

    Rudolph the Red Nosed Elephant is just wrong…

  219. Zatara

    Billy wishes he could riff like that

  220. calli

    Hah.

    We had a mercy dash to the servo yesterday for AAA batteries. The sensible operator had them on display, in all shapes and sizes and priced for maximum profit. Likewise bags of ice, despite the unseasonal coolness in Sydney. Free enterprise at its finest.

    On another issue, what the hell is happening in Melbourne? St Kilda beach looks like a tip. Is the city turning savage or going Mardi Gras? It used to be so civilised.

  221. Geriatric Mayfly

    We had a mercy dash to the servo yesterday for AAA batteries.

    A case of the old trap perhaps: ‘Batteries Not Supplied.’ Always read the fine print.

  222. Geriatric Mayfly

    Fairfax Media reports the annual Ipsos poll on public opinion towards climate change shows eight in 10 agree humans are contributing to climate change, with one in two saying it has already caused more extreme weather and damage to the Great Barrier Reef.

    Poll conducted in Fitzroy, Carlton, Darebin and Port Melbourne.

  223. stackja

    Geriatric Mayfly
    #2593846, posted on December 26, 2017 at 8:06 am

    Who were the ‘respondents’?

  224. johanna

    johanna
    #2593612, posted on December 25, 2017 at 3:35 pm

    Heh. Andre now taking the piss from the pretentious and increasingly politically correct Last Night at the Proms. Bring it on!

    BTW, on the earlier episode, there were all these interviews with people with regional accents and not a lot of polish who loved his shows. The intent was to show that his fans were bogans.

    The fact that they paid big bucks to listen to classical music was conveniently ignored.

    Just like the anti-Brexit snobs.

    What with the bad hair, success, and all, Andre Rieu is the Trump of the entertainment industry.

    For those who missed it last night.

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