Open Forum: December 23, 2017

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  1. Viva

    All I asked was if goose is similar tasting to duck. It wasn’t meant to start a debate on the finer points cooking duck. I still don’t know if they’re similar tastes.

    Why not Goosle it JC

  2. Geriatric Mayfly

    Who were the ‘respondents’?

    The first 10 out of the blocks would have been Adam Bandt and his electoral office staff. Then 10 fat Lezzos at South Melbourne Market. Ten academic beards in a Carlton coffee house, the whole attendance at the Fitzroy baths and ten ALP branch stackers in Darebin. The two dissenters in each instance are already on their way to the Gulag of Shame.

  3. stackja

    UNSW is mourning the passing of Professor Stuart Wenham, director of the Photovoltaics Centre of Excellence, and a pioneering researcher and inventor of solar cell technologies.

    Wenham passed away peacefully on the morning of Saturday 23 December with family and close friends by his side. He died from malignant melanoma, for which he had been in treatment since being diagnosed on September 8, and had hoped to make a full recovery – but his condition declined quite suddenly.

  4. johanna

    I notice that JC has stopped calling me (whom he has never met) a fat, ugly, stupid, drunken, whore.

    Could it be that his focus group suggested that it was a bad idea?

    Anyway, JC, I wish every hair on your back a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

  5. stackja

    St Kilda beachgoers cause drunken chaos on Christmas night
    Aneeka Simonis, Herald Sun
    5 minutes ago
    CHRISTMAS celebrations soured in St Kilda overnight as drunk partygoers spilt out onto the streets and caused chaos.

    A heavy police presence patrolled St Kilda foreshore into the night as thousands of people partied well into the night.

  6. Delta A

    Nick Cater wallops the PC grinches in the $Oz.

    The spirit of Christmas has survived another year, much to the annoyance of its critics.

    Mindful of the forbearance one should show in this season of goodwill, we should not dwell on their miserablist, misanthropic intolerance of a festival that ordinary people enjoy. Let us reflect instead on the pain they must feel as the rest of us celebrate almost everything they hold contemptible.

    “It’s impossible to ‘do’ Christmas without running into one patriarchal construct after another,” writes Latham Hunter, professor of cultural studies and communications at McMaster University in Canada.

    She has a point. After all, the festival is named after Him with a capital H, and the Trinity, while virtuous in many ways, is somewhat lacking in gender diversity, even if a question mark remains over the nature of the Holy Ghost.

    To rtwt, google: PC mob kept dreaming of a cruel Christmas.

  7. stackja

    Bitcoin worth a bit of what now?

  8. H B Bear

    For their much vaunted World’s Most Livable City Melbournibad increasingly sounds like just another big city sh1thole.

  9. struth

    Oh dear,……………………..arrrgh………………………………..ooooooooooooooooo

    Yawn……………..scratch, fumble………………………………..phew, sheeeesh…………………………burp……….ooo, that’s not right.

    Bloody inlaws are all raving alcoholics who led me astray.

    Got up 0530 to clean up.
    Don’t you hate that shit.

  10. struth

    Very hot and Humid Christmas up here.
    Held out in the backyard entertainment / gazebo / style area, under shade.
    I had big fans blowing, but the Nannas couldn’t stay out there for the desert and scoffed themselves silly inside in the Airconditioning.
    The Ladies followed.
    Too many prawns, oysters and various other delights for nibblies made by Mrs Struth meant the men were chockers after the main roast and we couldn’t fit in desert.

    Bloody hell women can eat when they decide to have a good crack at it.
    Anyway that meant it left the men outside and that meant we could let our hair down a bit.
    One bottle of shiraz and a half a bottle of Shivas Regal is gone (smaller bottle) and no one else drank it, or so they told me.
    All I can say is, Struth………………

  11. struth

    Needless to say, I feel like St Kilda Beach on a boxing day morning,……………… burp

  12. nerblnob

    Didn’t grow up with classical music, I just know odd bits.

    Enjoyed the André Rieu London Christmas show on TV. Must be one of the few big orchestras touring the world and making a living off ticket-buying punters rather than taxpayers’ cash.

    Johanna, you linked to a different Jerusalem to the one I saw. Then you linked to Ted Nugent again.
    Rieu was performing the Weatherly/Adams song, your link had the Blake poem set to Parry’s music.

  13. Leigh Lowe

    Whatever the question, the answer is never Creme de Menthe.
    Ever.

  14. Baldrick

    Tom
    #2593828, posted on December 26, 2017 at 5:39 am
    Mark Knight.

    That’s a fitting tribute to the lost souls of AE1 by Knight.
    Thanks Tom.

  15. Bruce of Newcastle

    Bitcoin worth a bit of what now?

    Whatever you want it to be worth…

    Amid Crypto-Chaos, Morgan Stanley Warns ‘True Value Of Bitcoin Could Be Zero’ (24 Dec)

    Analyst James Faucette and his team sent a research note to clients this week suggesting that the real value of bitcoin might be $0.

    The report (titled “Bitcoin decrypted”) did not give a price target for bitcoin, but in a section titled “Attempts to Value Bitcoin,” he concluded, stating the somewhat obvious:

    “If nobody accepts the technology for payment then the value would be 0,” Faucette suggested.

    That’s even lower than a Zim dollar.

  16. Leigh Lowe

    notafan

    #2593864, posted on December 26, 2017 at 9:02 am

    Real Christmas is coming back

    Encouraging story of resilience, nota.
    I wonder what those brave souls make of Pope Buffoon I making his pronouncements about “embracing Muslims”.

  17. stackja

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2593866, posted on December 26, 2017 at 9:05 am

    2GB said Red China in play.

  18. Leigh Lowe

    Bruce of Newcastle

    #2593866, posted on December 26, 2017 at 9:05 am

    Bitcoin worth a bit of what now?

    Whatever you want it to be worth…

    Amid Crypto-Chaos, Morgan Stanley Warns ‘True Value Of Bitcoin Could Be Zero’ (24 Dec)

    File that under “N” for “No Shit, Sherlock”.

  19. Geriatric Mayfly

    Real Christmas is coming back

    You can blamethat one on Trump as well. The depths to which this President has sunk puts him beyond any hope of salvation.

  20. johanna

    Goose is as maybe, but goslings are delicious. Like many animals, they taste better when they are young.

    Ther olds had geese on their acres years ago, and they were fine watchgeese. God help anyone who ventured on to the property. Nobody in their right mind wants to confront an angry goose.

    Anyway, they did what boy and girl geese do, and they ended up with a bunch of goslings.

    The folks hired a central European chap with no sentimental views to catch and kill and prepare the goslings.

    They were marinated and barbequed, and I have never forgotten how good they were. Just exquisite.

    Nothing like duck. I’ve tried, really I have, but it’s greasy game IMO.

  21. Eyrie

    H B Bear
    #2593858, posted on December 26, 2017 at 8:42 am

    “For their much vaunted World’s Most Livable City Melbournibad increasingly sounds like just another big city sh1thole.”

    Truth is, it has always been so.

  22. Leigh Lowe

    Geriatric Mayfly

    #2593871, posted on December 26, 2017 at 9:11 am

    Real Christmas is coming back

    You can blamethat one on Trump as well. The depths to which this President has sunk puts him beyond any hope of salvation

    OMG!
    Can you believe he didn’t host a multi-faith dinner at the White House for Christmas, trampling over a long standing tradition going back as far as 2009?

  23. struth

    Whatever the question, the answer is never Creme de Menthe.
    Ever.

    The colour should tell you that.
    Nature exhibits colour as a warning sometimes

  24. Geriatric Mayfly

    I wonder what those brave souls make of Pope Buffoon

    See my entry above at 6:56. Those brave souls would be better off heeding the words of Her Most Britannic Majesty, and taking comfort from them, than paying any attention to that crypto Marxist duffer. At least she had a crack at Islam and came through at the end with a very strong and direct Christian message for all.

  25. C.L.

    ‘Pope’ Francis backs Palestinian terrorists at Christmas …

    Israel, Palestine needs two-state solution, Pope Francis says in Christmas message.

    What sort of a man celebrates the birth of Christ by supporting Hamas?

    The entirety of his Christmas message was about Muslims.
    He also asked Christians to “open their hearts” to the 35 year-old “children” invading Europe.

    No.

  26. Tom

    On another issue, what the hell is happening in Melbourne? St Kilda beach looks like a tip. Is the city turning savage or going Mardi Gras? It used to be so civilised.

    Calli, I’ll have you know that Dickhead Dan’s Islamic State Caliphate — defended to the last civilian victim by Fatty Ashton’s Jungle Bunny Republican Guard — has turned Melbournibad into one of the lawless Third World’s mist liveable shitholes.

    I mean, can you imagine the Boxing Day Test, with its mile-long security queues, being held in Raqqah?

  27. Three hours, thirty two minutes to go.

  28. pete m

    Present position – waiting in line at Lush store to help kids grab a 50% off bargain.

    Then find wifey and try and get out of here!!

    Things we do!

  29. struth

    By the way, the Usual bit of “Trump is an idiot” came to the for at the table.
    What’s he doing in Israel? that’s going to cause a lot of deaths…..
    Then somebody else said in reply, I don’t think he’s going to be president much longer, They just about have him, he’ll be impeached soon they reckon..

    My reply was swift.

    I didn’t want to argue so I just said, Let’s make a bet.
    I’ll bet he’s still around by next election, and I’d actually make a bet that he’s going to win it.
    I’ll take a bet against anyone who is getting their news about him from the Main Stream media, especially the ABC.
    No one said another word, and no one took me up on the bet.

  30. struth

    That was a very uplifting link , Notafan, thank you.

  31. Geriatric Mayfly

    Israel, Palestine needs two-state solution, Pope Francis says in Christmas message.

    Well then Frankie boy, you are such an acute observer of world affairs, you go off and negotiate it. Being the whizz you are, and with your God given powers, it will be all done and dusted for the New Year. Bibi and Abbas shall both lie down like lambs at your very approach.

  32. struth

    Three hours, thirty two minutes to go.

    What for, the Sydney to Hobart?

    I bet some rich pricks in a sailing boat will win it.

  33. Village idiot in pyjamas.

    “You call that a newspoll disaster, Tony? This is a newspoll disaster!”

  34. calli

    I bet some rich prick’s employees in a sailing boat will win it.

  35. lotocoti

    Whatever the question, the answer is never Creme de Menthe.
    Ever.

    However, Creme de Menthe and a funnel is a suitable answer to many questions.

  36. calli

    Thanks for that link, nota.

    Compare and contrast the Iraqi Christians’ determination to stay in their country of birth despite fierce persecution to the uncivilised country shoppers who wind up here. And then proceed to turn the country that helped them into the sh*thole they left.

  37. Rae

    St Kilda beachgoers cause drunken chaos on Christmas night

    A similar event yesterday at Sydneys Little Bay was broken up by police. A few of the backpacker girls who thought it was ok to lay their hand on a police officer soon found that was not a wise thing to do.

  38. calli

    Grasshopper cheesecake. Decorated with after dinner mints and chocolate drizzle. Mmmmmm.

  39. I bet some rich pricks in a sailing boat will win it.

    Probably. So? The first hour as the bulk of the fleet race down the harbour, then clear the Heads, is still one the most spectacular sporting events on the planet today. And you can watch it for free.

  40. struth

    Melbourne was liveable around 1994 for about 12 months or so.
    It really is just a glorified container port.
    As it is they had to lie to the diggers heading to Ballarat and produce false maps showing Melbourne closer than Geelong.
    Then we have the Multicultural traffic Jam called Sydney.
    Both cities have banned true Australian accents and blonde hair.
    For my money, they both are shitholes.
    Perth is by far and away, Australia’s best capital.
    Best looking women, as well.

  41. calli

    I love it, MV. It’s a BD tradition with my Dad, who’s coming to lunch today so we can all enjoy the spectacle together.

    Prawn terrine – check. Pav – check. Pernod cream sauce – just about to flame the sucker. The rest is childsplay. 😀

  42. Baldrick

    Rae
    #2593890, posted on December 26, 2017 at 9:45 am

    Fuck off Stalker Boy

  43. struth

    Probably. So? The first hour as the bulk of the fleet race down the harbour, then clear the Heads, is still one the most spectacular sporting events on the planet today. And you can watch it for free.

    Pass.
    Hey, whatever “floats ya boat”

    Nothing against it, and I don’t mind sailing either.

  44. Geriatric Mayfly

    Perth is by far and away, Australia’s best capital.

    Must be that Indian Ocean air, but Perth always seems to sparkle. Sydney only does so when the media report it. And Melbourne – never.

  45. johanna

    As Baldrick is possibly nursing a hangover – fuck off, Septimus.

  46. JC

    Nob, Johanna

    Did they have any wheelchair dancing on the Hair Monster’s London extravaganza? That must be a tear jerker, no?

    Nob, an orchestra would be subsidised annually, so any performance would have the subsidy carry imbedded in the cost.

  47. Tom

    What a surprise: Big Government Googleory defends Big Brother Pig State against female revellers.

    Mother’s skin isn’t going to stretch itself, Googleory.

  48. Baldrick

    johanna
    #2593898, posted on December 26, 2017 at 9:53 am

    Hungover yes *#!hick!#~§

  49. Ivan Denisovich

    What sort of a man celebrates the birth of Christ by supporting Hamas?</em

    Or allows this:

    Howling, grunting, and roaring animals, along with images of overcrowded city centers, depictions of pollution, and negative portrayals of industrialization, appeared on the facade of St. Peter’s Basilica this evening during a much hyped “climate change” light show………………………………………………………………..

    The multi-million dollar show titled “Fiat Lux: Illuminating Our Common Home” was created and funded by climate-change partisans and population-control advocates with the goal to “educate and inspire change around the climate crisis across generations, cultures, languages, religions and class.” Along with images of the world and its endangered animals, including lions, birds, apes, and whales, appeared New Age symbolism associated with ancient pagan deities.

    The show also took place on the most important Marian feast day for Catholics, the Immaculate Conception, where Catholics celebrate Mary being conceived in the womb of her mother Anne without the stain of original sin.

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/sacrilege-catholic-leaders-react-to-vaticans-climate-change-light-show

  50. johanna

    Sorry, Baldrick, turns out that you are here.

    Anyway, fuck off, Septimus!

  51. JC

    Bruce,

    I’d love to short that crypto crapola, but the vol makes it too dangerous. You could be right, but one of those irrational rallies could take you out on a stretcher.

    It’s also not gentlemanly trading that crap. 🙂

  52. JC

    Johanna

    Please act ladylike during the festive season.

  53. Ivan Denisovich

    I’ll try again.

    What sort of a man celebrates the birth of Christ by supporting Hamas?

    Or allows this:

    Howling, grunting, and roaring animals, along with images of overcrowded city centers, depictions of pollution, and negative portrayals of industrialization, appeared on the facade of St. Peter’s Basilica this evening during a much hyped “climate change” light show………………………………………………………………..

    The multi-million dollar show titled “Fiat Lux: Illuminating Our Common Home” was created and funded by climate-change partisans and population-control advocates with the goal to “educate and inspire change around the climate crisis across generations, cultures, languages, religions and class.” Along with images of the world and its endangered animals, including lions, birds, apes, and whales, appeared New Age symbolism associated with ancient pagan deities.

    The show also took place on the most important Marian feast day for Catholics, the Immaculate Conception, where Catholics celebrate Mary being conceived in the womb of her mother Anne without the stain of original sin.

    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/sacrilege-catholic-leaders-react-to-vaticans-climate-change-light-show

  54. Baldrick

    Haven’t yet checked in the local Woolies but perhaps other Cats can advise if Hot Cross buns are available from today?

  55. struth

    This pope is a buffoon.
    Very dangerous political activist to be in that position.
    Can they sack a pope?

  56. I love it, MV. It’s a BD tradition with my Dad, who’s coming to lunch today

    Ditto here, Calli, only the other way around. I wander next door and watch it with #1 son, on his 55″ surround sound woopy do screen. Unfortunately he is not into cooking very much, so it will probably be Cheerios, party pies, and tomato sauce. Plus left overs from yesterday, of course.

  57. OldOzzie

    Malcolm Turnbull on the slide in cities and key state

    The federal government has suffered a collapse in support in the critical state of NSW, lost ground across the five major capital cities and ceded further territory to One Nation, leaving Malcolm Turnbull facing an electoral ­battle on several key fronts in the new year.

    A quarterly demographic analy­sis of Newspoll conducted exclusively for The Australian shows that the Coalition still faces its greatest challenge in Queensland, where primary-vote support has continued to fall, hitting a low of 32 per cent for the first time, and marking an 11.2 point descent since last year’s election.

    Over a period dominated by the same-sex marriage debate and the citizenship crisis, the ­Coalition has suffered a slump in the Prime Minister’s home state of NSW since September, with a three-point slide in its primary vote, back to the record low levels recorded at the start of the year.

    This has coincided with ­another fall in Mr Turnbull’s ­approval rating. Dissatisfaction with the Prime Minister’s performance has risen four points since September and the gap between Mr Turnbull as preferred prime minister over Bill Shorten narrowed to its closest, seven points, in any quarter this year.

    The electoral backlash against the Coalition since last year’s election, which until now had been confined mostly to the ­regions where it has traditionally been strongest, appears to have spread to the capital cities.

    The Coalition’s primary vote across metropolitan seats has dropped to its lowest level since the election and now sits at 35 per cent. This has led to the ­government ending the year in a diminished position, with a one-point fall nationally to 54-46, ­having trailed 53-47 for the first three quarters of the year.

    While the Coalition has recovered some core support in South Australia and is recording a one-point improvement in Western Australia, these gains have failed to compensate for the slides in NSW — where the government is now on a primary vote of 35 per cent — and Queensland.

    Mr Turnbull faces a battle to recover the 10-point decline in the Coalition’s primary vote in Western Australia since the July 2016 election and an 11-point deficit in Queensland as well as recovering the ground lost in NSW.

    The Coalition has suffered a two-point fall in its two-party-preferred vote in the five mainland state capital cities since September to trail Labor 55-45.

    On a two-party-preferred basis, Labor leads 55-45 in Queensland, 54-46 in NSW and Victoria and 53-47 in both South Australia and Western Australia. This represents a 4 per cent swing nationally to Labor, which, if ­repeated at the next election, could result in the loss of between 20 and 30 seats for the Liberal and Nationals parties.

    The final Newspoll analysis of the year threatens to dampen the buoyancy in the Coalition parties that flowed from Mr Turnbull ­finishing the year achieving victories in two by-elections triggered by the High Court ruling on dual citizenship and claiming the scalp of disgraced Labor senator Sam Dastyari as it pursued popular new laws to curb foreign interference and influence.

    Newspoll shows the Coalition has failed to address a significant problem with male voters, where its support dropped a further point to 35 per cent — a nine-point fall since the election — giving Labor a narrow lead among men for the first time.

    Female voters have also marked Mr Turnbull down, with a five-point rise in the number of women dissatisfied with his performance since the September quarter.

    A sustained collapse among the over-50s has also yet to be ­arrested, signalling the possibility that the Coalition’s base supporters have “locked in” against Mr Turnbull.

    The number of people claiming to support anyone other than the two major parties — including One Nation, the Nick Xenophon Team, the Greens and other minor parties such as the Australian Conservatives — ­continues to rise, up one point to 28 per cent.

    The only bright spots for the Prime Minister were: a three-point lift in the Coalition’s primary vote in South Australia to 33 per cent — still two points behind the national average; and a one-point rise in Western Australia which at 39 per cent becomes Mr Turnbull’s strongest state on primary vote despite the Coalition’s support having plummeted from the 48.7 per cent primary vote at last year’s election.

    On a personal level, Mr ­Turnbull has retained his lead over the Opposition Leader as the preferred prime minister in every state and every age demographic. However, the gap narrowed over the past quarter to be the closest since the election, with Mr ­Turnbull falling three points to 40 per cent and Mr Shorten gaining a point to 33 per cent.

    Mr Shorten has closed the gap in regional areas, with Mr ­Turnbull declining to 38 per cent from 43 per cent in the past three months and Mr Shorten ­improving to 35 per cent to 31 per cent, narrowing the Prime ­Minister’s lead to three points.

    Mr Shorten has also failed to impress voters, suffering a two-point rise in his dissatisfaction rating to 55 per cent — only two points lower than Mr Turnbull’s — with his home state of Victoria marking him down the most.

    Mr Turnbull’s greatest problem is the low primary vote in NSW and Queensland, which together hold 87 of the 150 federal seats.

    They are also the states where One Nation is strongest and where it continues to lift its primary vote. The right-wing minor party, which poses the greatest threat to the conservative base of the Coalition, ended the year one point up in NSW on 10 per cent and one point up in Queensland, where it has 15 per cent of primary support.

    In NSW, the Coalition primary vote has fallen from 38 per cent to 35 per cent in the final quarter of the year, a seven-point decline since the last election.

    Queensland has also proved to be a significant problem for the Coalition, with a one-point drop in the past quarter to 32 per cent.

    Labor on the other hand is ­either at level-pegging or leading in every state with the exception of South Australia, where it trails by just one point, and where the main independent minor party, the Nick Xenophon Team, holds the bulk of an increased 27.2 per cent vote for other parties.

  58. John Constantine

    Get fit and simply outlive the lefty Red Guards like Good Queen Liz.

    It was pointed out to me that I will be dead soon anyway and the muslims will get the money then, so I have to pay up peoples inheritances that they are entitled to, right ducking now.

    Because the refugees need their money immediately.

    Stem cells, not just for Mugabe.

    Comrades.

  59. Can they sack a pope?

    I understand poison is the preferred early retirement plan.

  60. johanna

    Called up my Dad, who is over ninety, on Christmas Eve.

    Poor bastard is consumed by fear of dying. He can’t talk about it to anyone but me. For the rest, he puts on the happy face.

  61. Woolfe

    Struth, don’t they mysteriously die? (Nadt)

  62. Peter Castieau

    struth

    Perth is by far and away, Australia’s best capital.
    Best looking women, as well.

    Maybe but we have our own problems including being incapable of running sporting events properly. Friends of mine went to the ashes test the other day only to find out that during the last session of play you could only buy one beer, which meant everyone had to get up and queue and another told of ordering a bacon and eggs burger only to be told that menu had finished, so he ordered a steak burger instead only to be told that menu had yet to start.

    Really!

  63. Peter Castieau

    Block quote fail.

  64. Boambee John

    struth
    #2593908, posted on December 26, 2017 at 10:02 am
    This pope is a buffoon.
    Very dangerous political activist to be in that position.
    Can they sack a pope?

    They sacked his predecessor!

  65. Rae

    Sydney to Hobart on the big teev is a Boxing Day tradition, even for we digital natives. Good weather forecast and possible record time again.

  66. Bruce of Newcastle

    Can they sack a pope?

    Well, barbarians like sacking Rome a lot.
    And Francis advocates letting lots of barbarians in.
    So I guess the inevitable will happen eventually.

  67. stackja

    Baldrick
    #2593907, posted on December 26, 2017 at 10:00 am

    Woolworths Hot Cross Buns Traditional 6pk

  68. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Got up 0530 to clean up.
    Don’t you hate that shit.

    I got up at 8.30 with Attapuss licking my hair. He was both loving and hungry. 🙂
    Da Hairy Ape has not yet stirred, let alone surfaced. Others have gone to the beach already.
    The kitchen is clean-ish and all washing up done by troops before various departures last night.
    In their enthusiasm they have considerably jumbled up three white dinner services and three sets of cutlery with all of the kitchen plates, knives and forks. I am testing my intelligence by sorting it all into piles that belong together, pondering that there are many shades of white, concluding I am rather dim-witted this morning. Arzberg, here, Wedgewood bone china with little flowers, there, Noritake Heritage that matches the teapot, over the back, Maxwell Williams kitchen stuff and other odds and sods, down the end. Takes me ages.

    I need a butler. This is a butler’s job, isn’t it? Especially with the cutlery. I can’t do fine distinctions in style this morning. A fork is a fork is a fork. Where’s Carson from Downton Abbey? Well, Hairy did offer me a ruler to measure the spaces between place settings on Christmas Eve. I just did it by eye. Had to squash ’em in, just like they do for the Nobel dinner in Stockholm’s beautiful Blue Council Hall; fourteen inches each is your lot there. I think we did a bit better than that.

    Meanwhile, we have a boatrace to watch. Later, we might head for the clifftops just above us.
    We’ve had our eye on the new Wild Oats in some test sailings.

  69. Rae

    Love watching those big kites belly out and lift the maxi yachts along towards Bass Strait.

  70. H B Bear

    “For their much vaunted World’s Most Livable City Melbournibad increasingly sounds like just another big city sh1thole.”

    Truth is, it has always been so.

    I only lived there for a couple of years about a decade ago but would disagree at that time. Knocking off work on a Friday, finding a decent bar for a couple of beers and then walking up to the MCG for a big night game is a great experience. The buildings at the top end of Collins St lit up at night are the equal of just about anywhere in the world. Poking around the markets and then grabbing some spring rolls or a kransky for lunch too.

    Once you get out of the city and into the flat expanse of the suburbs it drops away quickly but is still infinity better than the drive along Parramatta Rd through Sydney’s west which is simply dispiriting. I suspect much of this is being lost to the Ponzi migration/property scheme as more and more people are crammed in, so well documented by John Constantine here.

  71. Maybe but we have our own problems including being incapable of running sporting events properly.

    I know what you mean, Peter, but it’s hardly unique to Perth. We went to an air show earlier this year where the organisers had divided up and auctioned off the catering rights. So, only ONE stand could sell a burger, but nothing else. A separate single stand exclusively for chips. Another ONE stand could sell coffee and tea, but nothing else. Yet another could only do soft drinks. And so on.

    40,000 hot, hungry, thirsty people joining multiple endless queues, just to get lunch with a drink.

  72. notafan

    I started early with a visit to the doctor’s yeah! Then Chemist warehouse for script. Place for full of Chinese buying vitamins and their one allowed can of baby formula. (in not so fare away suburb Saturday afternoon the Chinese parcel place was flat out packing up formula for shipping)

    Lady without any English in front of me was queried because her CC said Mr, no English so another person in the queue had to translate that query and say it was husband’s card.

    Outside I saw her drive off in the Land Rover.

    How on earth did she get a license?

    I suppose Melbourne can look forward to another 150,000 new migrants in 2018.

    More 20 story apartment buildings please!

    The building unions are loving it.

  73. H B Bear

    Maybe but we have our own problems including being incapable of running sporting events properly.

    The WACA has always been a complete joke. Hopefully it will go broke now and get razed to the ground, preferably with the Board and CEO still inside.

    The Australian Open tennis is the best organised sporting event (outside Spring Racing Carnival) in Australia. You can have a great day out even without seeing any tennis for next to nothing on a day pass in the first week.

  74. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Israel, Palestine needs two-state solution, Pope Francis says in Christmas message.

    Somebody tell the old fool that the Palestinians have rejected every “Two State” solution since 1920?

  75. notafan

    Williamstown in Melbourne is lovely.

    One of my kids lives there. Great views of the Melbourne skyline from her place.

    Easy to see why ‘The Strand’ is five million dollars a block.

    I suppose the only reason Willi isn’t ruined is because it is Labor royalty heartland.

  76. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    The Arzberg is for twelve, the Wedgewood is for eight, so that makes twenty, and the three littlies had kitchen plates. Don’t ask me how the Noritake for six got involved at all. Now I think about it, I vaguely recall keeping the Wedgewood away from some of the teenagers, perhaps that’s how.

    There seem to be two teaspoons and one fork missing. Gone to the garbage by mistake, I expect. Fortunately not from the best two matching sets.

    A lot of alcohol was consumed. Someone has neatly stacked the empties in boxes in Santa’s grotto. 🙂

  77. Nick

    Williamstown in Melbourne is lovely.

    I’d love Willy’s wide streets, great houses and Yarraville’s vibe.

  78. notafan

    A 14 year old cannot consent, a 14 year old to whom you have given drugs and alcohol even less so. nor is the fact that they are wearing bikinis and thus ‘nearly naked’ an excuse.

    The surreptitious lowering of the age of consent by the courts continues

  79. The Arzberg is for twelve, the Wedgewood is for eight, so that makes twenty, and the three littlies had kitchen plates. Don’t ask me how the Noritake for six got involved at all.

    Plus cutlery!

    Good heavens, Lizzie, don’t you know why God gave us paper plates, plastic forks, and bread rolls?

  80. notafan

    Yarraville has come a long way from the working class burn I knew in the 80s,

    Only draw back is the green and labor filth that now infests it

    My friends were buying houses around there for $40,000 in the mid 80s, I guess they were part of the beginning of the end.

  81. struth

    Mrs Struth went all out with the place settings.

    Oyster fork , folded cloth serviettes and a cracker on top.
    All in white.
    When she did the table up, I said you do realise we are celebrating a birth, not a wedding?

  82. OldOzzie

    Malcolm Turnbull on the slide in cities and key state

    The federal government has suffered a collapse in support in the critical state of NSW, lost ground across the five major capital cities and ceded further territory to One Nation, leaving Malcolm Turnbull facing an electoral ­battle on several key fronts in the new year.

    A quarterly demographic analy­sis of Newspoll conducted exclusively for The Australian shows that the Coalition still faces its greatest challenge in Queensland, where primary-vote support has continued to fall, hitting a low of 32 per cent for the first time, and marking an 11.2 point descent since last year’s election.

    Over a period dominated by the same-sex marriage debate and the citizenship crisis, the ­Coalition has suffered a slump in the Prime Minister’s home state of NSW since September, with a three-point slide in its primary vote, back to the record low levels recorded at the start of the year.

    This has coincided with ­another fall in Mr Turnbull’s ­approval rating. Dissatisfaction with the Prime Minister’s performance has risen four points since September and the gap between Mr Turnbull as preferred prime minister over Bill Shorten narrowed to its closest, seven points, in any quarter this year.

    The electoral backlash against the Coalition since last year’s election, which until now had been confined mostly to the ­regions where it has traditionally been strongest, appears to have spread to the capital cities.

    The Coalition’s primary vote across metropolitan seats has dropped to its lowest level since the election and now sits at 35 per cent. This has led to the ­government ending the year in a diminished position, with a one-point fall nationally to 54-46, ­having trailed 53-47 for the first three quarters of the year.

    While the Coalition has recovered some core support in South Australia and is recording a one-point improvement in Western Australia, these gains have failed to compensate for the slides in NSW — where the government is now on a primary vote of 35 per cent — and Queensland.

    Mr Turnbull faces a battle to recover the 10-point decline in the Coalition’s primary vote in Western Australia since the July 2016 election and an 11-point deficit in Queensland as well as recovering the ground lost in NSW.

    The Coalition has suffered a two-point fall in its two-party-preferred vote in the five mainland state capital cities since September to trail Labor 55-45.

    On a two-party-preferred basis, Labor leads 55-45 in Queensland, 54-46 in NSW and Victoria and 53-47 in both South Australia and Western Australia. This represents a 4 per cent swing nationally to Labor, which, if ­repeated at the next election, could result in the loss of between 20 and 30 seats for the Liberal and Nationals parties.

    The final Newspoll analysis of the year threatens to dampen the buoyancy in the Coalition parties that flowed from Mr Turnbull ­finishing the year achieving victories in two by-elections triggered by the High Court ruling on dual citizenship and claiming the scalp of disgraced Labor senator Sam Dastyari as it pursued popular new laws to curb foreign interference and influence.

    Newspoll shows the Coalition has failed to address a significant problem with male voters, where its support dropped a further point to 35 per cent — a nine-point fall since the election — giving Labor a narrow lead among men for the first time.

    Female voters have also marked Mr Turnbull down, with a five-point rise in the number of women dissatisfied with his performance since the September quarter.

    A sustained collapse among the over-50s has also yet to be ­arrested, signalling the possibility that the Coalition’s base supporters have “locked in” against Mr Turnbull.

    The number of people claiming to support anyone other than the two major parties — including One Nation, the Nick Xenophon Team, the Greens and other minor parties such as the Australian Conservatives — ­continues to rise, up one point to 28 per cent.

    The only bright spots for the Prime Minister were: a three-point lift in the Coalition’s primary vote in South Australia to 33 per cent — still two points behind the national average; and a one-point rise in Western Australia which at 39 per cent becomes Mr Turnbull’s strongest state on primary vote despite the Coalition’s support having plummeted from the 48.7 per cent primary vote at last year’s election.

    On a personal level, Mr ­Turnbull has retained his lead over the Opposition Leader as the preferred prime minister in every state and every age demographic. However, the gap narrowed over the past quarter to be the closest since the election, with Mr ­Turnbull falling three points to 40 per cent and Mr Shorten gaining a point to 33 per cent.

    Mr Shorten has closed the gap in regional areas, with Mr ­Turnbull declining to 38 per cent from 43 per cent in the past three months and Mr Shorten ­improving to 35 per cent to 31 per cent, narrowing the Prime ­Minister’s lead to three points.

    Mr Shorten has also failed to impress voters, suffering a two-point rise in his dissatisfaction rating to 55 per cent — only two points lower than Mr Turnbull’s — with his home state of Victoria marking him down the most.

    Mr Turnbull’s greatest problem is the low primary vote in NSW and Queensland, which together hold 87 of the 150 federal seats.

    They are also the states where One Nation is strongest and where it continues to lift its primary vote. The right-wing minor party, which poses the greatest threat to the conservative base of the Coalition, ended the year one point up in NSW on 10 per cent and one point up in Queensland, where it has 15 per cent of primary support.

    In NSW, the Coalition primary vote has fallen from 38 per cent to 35 per cent in the final quarter of the year, a seven-point decline since the last election.

    Queensland has also proved to be a significant problem for the Coalition, with a one-point drop in the past quarter to 32 per cent.

    Labor on the other hand is ­either at level-pegging or leading in every state with the exception of South Australia, where it trails by just one point, and where the main independent minor party, the Nick Xenophon Team, holds the bulk of an increased 27.2 per cent vote for other parties.

  83. struth

    Yarraville was a dump back then.
    Crappy little homes full of ethnics and transport depots along Yarraville road.

  84. Gab

    My tummy still aches from yesterday. I don’t feel I can eat anything at all today, especially anything with sugar in i-oh look homemade Xmas cookies! Better have them with coffee!

  85. Tom

    Can they sack a pope?

    The appointment of Pope Fonzie in 2013 was eerily similar to the ascension of Obambi in 2008: awww geee, isn’t it great they’re giving an outsider a go, a new pope from the Third World and a black man with the odds stacked against him? What harm could they do?

    Well, as NeverTrumper Charles Krauthammer now says, it was evident from Obambi’s first State of the Union address in 2010 he wasn’t a novice who wanted to tinker with America, but a far leftist who wanted to change it forever.

    And, as soon as Pope Fonzie got a foot in the door, it was Marxist liberation theology all the way.
    Obambi’s presidency was so destructive it created the Trump presidency to undo the damage. But there is no democratic cure for Pope Fonzie: he was appointed by a small cabal who now must own what they have done to the church.

    If Pope Fonzie is to be toppled because of the damage he has done to the church, the only way it can be done technically is via an in-house coup d’etat by the cardinals, who would have to admit they got it wrong in 2013.

    That would require courage they don’t have.

  86. C.L.

    Make no mistake, the pope’s wall-to-wall Muslim extravaganza (his Christmas message) was an absolute disgrace.

  87. notafan

    I have the remnants of my Portmeirion set that has always been my every day set for over thirty years, supplemented with non matching pieces from the same company I bought when the Aussie was strong against the pound.
    Mostly made in China now I won’t buy it again.

    And some 1930s Doulton I picked up in an op shop because like me some fool never used it.

    All goes in the dishwasher.

    My lovely Doulton set (or two) still hiding in a cupboard.

    No doubt one of my girls will enjoy it.

    Used to love going to Ball and Welch after Christmas sales when I was accumulating such things, when bargains were real bargains.

    I even gave my ex a lovely British dinner set from there when we split, my daughter reminded me at Christmas, that he still uses.

  88. stackja

    “You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it” (Matt. 16:18).

  89. notafan

    I see Pope Francis had both elbows held as he went down the stairs during that Christmas mass, age is against him.

    What a disappointing pope he has been.

    I won’t bother going to hear him speak in St Peter’s square next Sunday, that is for sure.

  90. OldOzzie

    Malcolm Turnbull on the slide in cities and key state

    The federal government has suffered a collapse in support in the critical state of NSW, lost ground across the five major capital cities and ceded further territory to One Nation, leaving Malcolm Turnbull facing an electoral ­battle on several key fronts in the new year.

    A quarterly demographic analy­sis of Newspoll conducted exclusively for The Australian shows that the Coalition still faces its greatest challenge in Queensland, where primary-vote support has continued to fall, hitting a low of 32 per cent for the first time, and marking an 11.2 point descent since last year’s election.

    Over a period dominated by the same-sex marriage debate and the citizenship crisis, the ­Coalition has suffered a slump in the Prime Minister’s home state of NSW since September, with a three-point slide in its primary vote, back to the record low levels recorded at the start of the year.

    This has coincided with ­another fall in Mr Turnbull’s ­approval rating. Dissatisfaction with the Prime Minister’s performance has risen four points since September and the gap between Mr Turnbull as preferred prime minister over Bill Shorten narrowed to its closest, seven points, in any quarter this year.

    The electoral backlash against the Coalition since last year’s election, which until now had been confined mostly to the ­regions where it has traditionally been strongest, appears to have spread to the capital cities.

    The Coalition’s primary vote across metropolitan seats has dropped to its lowest level since the election and now sits at 35 per cent. This has led to the ­government ending the year in a diminished position, with a one-point fall nationally to 54-46, ­having trailed 53-47 for the first three quarters of the year.

    While the Coalition has recovered some core support in South Australia and is recording a one-point improvement in Western Australia, these gains have failed to compensate for the slides in NSW — where the government is now on a primary vote of 35 per cent — and Queensland.

    Mr Turnbull faces a battle to recover the 10-point decline in the Coalition’s primary vote in Western Australia since the July 2016 election and an 11-point deficit in Queensland as well as recovering the ground lost in NSW.

    The Coalition has suffered a two-point fall in its two-party-preferred vote in the five mainland state capital cities since September to trail Labor 55-45.

    On a two-party-preferred basis, Labor leads 55-45 in Queensland, 54-46 in NSW and Victoria and 53-47 in both South Australia and Western Australia. This represents a 4 per cent swing nationally to Labor, which, if ­repeated at the next election, could result in the loss of between 20 and 30 seats for the Liberal and Nationals parties.

    The final Newspoll analysis of the year threatens to dampen the buoyancy in the Coalition parties that flowed from Mr Turnbull ­finishing the year achieving victories in two by-elections triggered by the High Court ruling on dual citizenship and claiming the scalp of disgraced Labor senator Sam Dastyari as it pursued popular new laws to curb foreign interference and influence.

    Newspoll shows the Coalition has failed to address a significant problem with male voters, where its support dropped a further point to 35 per cent — a nine-point fall since the election — giving Labor a narrow lead among men for the first time.

    Female voters have also marked Mr Turnbull down, with a five-point rise in the number of women dissatisfied with his performance since the September quarter.

    A sustained collapse among the over-50s has also yet to be ­arrested, signalling the possibility that the Coalition’s base supporters have “locked in” against Mr Turnbull.

    The number of people claiming to support anyone other than the two major parties — including One Nation, the Nick Xenophon Team, the Greens and other minor parties such as the Australian Conservatives — ­continues to rise, up one point to 28 per cent.

    The only bright spots for the Prime Minister were: a three-point lift in the Coalition’s primary vote in South Australia to 33 per cent — still two points behind the national average; and a one-point rise in Western Australia which at 39 per cent becomes Mr Turnbull’s strongest state on primary vote despite the Coalition’s support having plummeted from the 48.7 per cent primary vote at last year’s election.

    On a personal level, Mr ­Turnbull has retained his lead over the Opposition Leader as the preferred prime minister in every state and every age demographic. However, the gap narrowed over the past quarter to be the closest since the election, with Mr ­Turnbull falling three points to 40 per cent and Mr Shorten gaining a point to 33 per cent.

    Mr Shorten has closed the gap in regional areas, with Mr ­Turnbull declining to 38 per cent from 43 per cent in the past three months and Mr Shorten ­improving to 35 per cent to 31 per cent, narrowing the Prime ­Minister’s lead to three points.

    Mr Shorten has also failed to impress voters, suffering a two-point rise in his dissatisfaction rating to 55 per cent — only two points lower than Mr Turnbull’s — with his home state of Victoria marking him down the most.

    Mr Turnbull’s greatest problem is the low primary vote in NSW and Queensland, which together hold 87 of the 150 federal seats.

    They are also the states where One Nation is strongest and where it continues to lift its primary vote. The right-wing minor party, which poses the greatest threat to the conservative base of the Coalition, ended the year one point up in NSW on 10 per cent and one point up in Queensland, where it has 15 per cent of primary support.

    In NSW, the Coalition primary vote has fallen from 38 per cent to 35 per cent in the final quarter of the year, a seven-point decline since the last election.

    Queensland has also proved to be a significant problem for the Coalition, with a one-point drop in the past quarter to 32 per cent.

    Labor on the other hand is ­either at level-pegging or leading in every state with the exception of South Australia, where it trails by just one point, and where the main independent minor party, the Nick Xenophon Team, holds the bulk of an increased 27.2 per cent vote for other parties.

  91. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Good heavens, Lizzie, don’t you know why God gave us paper plates, plastic forks, and bread rolls?

    God gave them to us for BBQ’s, MV.

    I bought the Noritake set in an Op Shop too, Notafan, years ago, long before I knew Hairy. It was my contribution to the felicity of our marriage. Hairy likes a decently set table. I keep the Noritake teapot for best and we use tea bags in the kitchen. Hairy’s old university friend from the UK was appalled and purchased a proper kitchen teapot and fine leaf tea for us as a thank you present on his first day of staying with us. They occasionally send us a new tea cosy for Christmas. 🙂

  92. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Old Ozzie, linky no work. But the idea comes over anyway. Hungarian men are not wimps.

  93. H B Bear

    Lord Waffleworth has completely destroyed the Lieborals primary vote = loss of the rusted ons. The 2PP numbers pollsters are using are probably wrong with PHON and AC now in the mix.

    The Lieborals will be annihilated on these numbers. A great result.

  94. Nick

    Only draw back is the green and labor filth that now infests it

    That’s true, but strangely enough I love the areas they infest. Despite their politics, there are usually great places to eat and drink, some, where a hound can sit at your feet while you have a beer. Hipsters are nice to oldies. Far better than cocaine/banker/botox places such as Bondi.

  95. Tom

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2593841, posted on December 26, 2017 at 7:26 am

    Sean Delonas.

    Rudolph the Red Nosed Elephant is just wrong…

    You think?
    (Great excuse to repost one of Delonas’s cartoons of the year.)

  96. OldOzzie

    Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare
    #2593951, posted on December 26, 2017 at 11:12 am
    Old Ozzie, linky no work. But the idea comes over anyway. Hungarian men are not wimps.

    Sorry – Try

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/12/25/hungarians-pms-christmas-message-want-protect-christian-culture-not-retreat-behind-concerete-blocks-watch-daughters-harassed-new-years/

  97. Muddy

    Malcolm Turnbull on the slide in cities and key state.

    Those fauxconpolinecrophiliacs are hardy creatures however.

  98. Infidel Tiger

    Real Christmas is coming back

    Not that’s inspirational. The idiot GWB and his kooky neo-con friends acting under divine providence caused millions of middle eastern Christians to be slaughtered. Good to see the few that remain have so much resolve.

  99. notafan

    So true Nick

    My daughter rented in Yarraville and we like it a lot, as well as Footscray, Richmond and Brunswick where we also like to hang out.

    All better than Willie for eating out.

  100. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Used to love going to Ball and Welch after Christmas sales

    I read that at first as Bali and Welsh, which puzzled me greatly.
    Why those two places, wouldn’t it be Wales too, and why would you go after the Christmas sales?

    I need some strong coffee. Right now. Told youse I was not firing on all six yet.

  101. W Hogg

    Lord Waffleworth has completely destroyed the Lieborals primary vote = loss of the rusted ons. The 2PP numbers pollsters are using are probably wrong with PHON and AC now in the mix.

    The Lieborals will be annihilated on these numbers. A great result.

    AC prefs flowed strongly back to LNP in Bennelong. If there’s one thing their base hates more than Mal, it’s the SLF.

    PHON is less clear. Prefs didn’t go well for LNP in the DPRQ. I think the bizarre “preference against incumbent” strategy greatly favoured Palletchook this time. PHON only ran in rural electorates where they were likely to do well, which had Nats, so de facto they preferenced like the Greens. If they did the rational thing and provided two HTV cards and left it to the voter, they would likely preference better to LNP than recent evidence suggests.

    Alternatively, since PHON is a hard-left socialist party (taking socialist DNA from the Greens but disgusted with their Islamism and NAMBLA tendencies), it may not be a coincidence that they’re preferencing the ALP.

  102. JC

    I’m guessing German tourists. Those fuckers are always getting into trouble. If it’s not here, it’s Florida. Without exaggeration, at one stage, there were a couple a week either dying from accidents or being attacked in Florida during the 90s.

    Police are investigating the drowning death of a man at a beach on the NSW Far North Coast after a “mass rescue” of eight people believed to be tourists who got into trouble in the water.

  103. notafan

    Reminds me that a little bit of multiculti is fine.

    I was very pleased one of my fav Richmond caf owners popped into my shop, he is a Uzbek and an all round nice young man., love his stories.

  104. Tel

    If anyone might be amused to listen to some Nanny State pearl clutching hysteria:

    http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2017/12/matt_stoller_on.html

  105. Baldrick

    Rae
    #2593924, posted on December 26, 2017 at 10:24 am

    Love watching those big kites skins belly out and lift the maxi yachts along towards Bass Strait. Hills hoist off its hastenings.

    Fixed.

  106. W Hogg

    The idiot GWB and his kooky neo-con friends acting under divine providence caused millions of middle eastern Christians to be slaughtered.

    The war in Iraq was pure Crimton. The monitoring staff were expelled in the 1990s, so 100% of the “intelligence” on which war was based were Crimton appointees. Regime change was legislated in 1998 as the Iraq Liberation Act. Hostilities commenced 1998. The Crimton-Crimton war syndicate continued to push the case for war all the way through, escalating the rhetoric after 9/11.

    GWB didn’t have the sense to deviate from existing Crimton policy failures – Iraq “Liberation,” subprime lending, maybe some aspects of deregulation that got out of control. He might as well have not been elected. But place blame where it belongs. Don’t fall for the revisionist history put around in which Iraq invasion became a thing the afternoon of 11/9/2001.

  107. H B Bear

    Ripping off Euro tourists in Florida is a legitimate career option. Knocking them off is probably going too far though. Unless they try and save all the pool lounges, in which case it a perfectly acceptable response.

  108. Infidel Tiger

    Fairfax has decided that what Malcolm really needs to do to improve his polls is more on climate change.

  109. notafan

    We should be encouraging Nikki in her efforts to further reduce UN spending, you can see why the knives were out for her last week because of her name.

    Moving out of Manhattan to say, Albuquerque or even Dafur would also be excellent and a smack in the nose for all those African and ME bureaucrats and ‘diplomats’ infesting New York

    That UN cut comes on top of earlier cuts to the Peace Keeping budget, nearly 8 billion which is separate funding,

  110. JC

    Ripping off Euro tourists in Florida is a legitimate career option.

    Dude, I’m not kidding. Couple a week were getting knocked off at one stage.

    I honestly don’t know how those fucks (krauts) could have taken over the world. They wouldn’t have survived. I mean, FFS, they have to put up signs in German not to swim in croc infested waters.

    I put up a sign..

    Danger crocs in the water. Perfectly safe for German tourists (in German)

  111. Bruce of Newcastle

    CNN has jumped whole oceans-worth of sharks this year, so why not another one?

    CNN: ‘It’s a Wonderful Life’ Is ‘Inherently Sexist,’ Should Be ‘Retired’

    CNN writer Carol Costello says she has “cooled to classics like ‘It’s a Wonderful Life,’” lamenting that in a post-Harvey Weinstein world, she can never again watch that movie “in the same way [she] did when [she] was a kid” because she keeps wondering if it is “inherently sexist.”

    “And that’s a good thing,” she adds.

    Mz Costello is inherently bonkers yet gets paid for this crud. Sheesh.

  112. Gab

    because she keeps wondering if it is “inherently sexist.”

    to a hammer everything looks like a nail.

  113. Oh come on

    Ripping off Euro tourists in Florida is a legitimate career option. Knocking them off is probably going too far though. Unless they try and save all the pool lounges, in which case it a perfectly acceptable response.

    Cannot abide this. Perfectly OK to smear their towels with VX dust or Zyklon B for some true poetic justice.

  114. JC

    Bruce

    In all honesty The ABC and FakeCNN are basically interchangeable. If you had posted that and asked us to guess who published it, I would have said some ABC schmuck. They ought to do staff rotation with Don Lemon hosting Q&A.

    Not a bad idea having Don Lemon doing it, as he’s just as sanctimonious as Springer-Jones.

  115. Infidel Tiger

    Any danger of 1. A Test match quality pitch in Australia 2. Someone pouring cold water on Michael Clarke every time he calls David Warner “Davey”.

  116. notafan

    I see a few are of this opinion

    “Mark Perry replying to Miranda

    Brilliant Miranda. Noori however does not look like an habitual ICE user, I question that part of the police story. I also strongly disagree with the @VictoriaPolice findings it’s not Terrorism, was this to save money in payments to the victims or just PC crap.

  117. calli

    We use the V and B every day – bought a 16 place setting when I was flush with funds in 88. The Coalport languishes in the cupboard. Ikea white for parties and bbqs. I loathe paper plates and plastic cutlery. The mongrels always fold up on me and I end up wearing dinner.

  118. JC

    When the Cat was going full Neil Armfield, I recall posting a tweet at their Q&A suggesting they ought to have Neil on as a panelist. I did it as a joke. The suggestion received strong support even though it I was kidding. Sure enough, about six months later they had Neil Armfield on as a panelist. FMD.

  119. H B Bear

    Channel 9 commentary booth is full of dribbling cretins. Actually getting worse if that is even possible.

  120. Infidel Tiger

    Even Bill Lawry, who is usually sound, was carrying on like a cretin this morning.

    I think the only place you can get decent commentary is on triple M.

  121. H B Bear

    MCG pitch is just another drop-in road. In Australia bowlers play the same role as Christians at a Roman coliseum.

  122. H B Bear

    Lawry should go pigeon racing full time.

  123. notafan

    Is that the Naif Calli?

    my sister has that one, I love it as well as the T & G Green ware which she also has

    I think I was lucky because I bought most of mine before the Aussie dollar got floated.

  124. Le Chiffre

    Fairfax has decided that what Malcolm really needs to do to improve his polls is more on climate change.

    True – Turnbull needs to do more to bell the cat on the fraud of CAGW. Abandon all the useless, destructive and expensive ‘climate change’ measures; thereby making households $1000+ p/a richer and saving their industry and jobs.

  125. Infidel Tiger

    Pitch is a shocker. It’d be considered flat for a Twenty 20 match.

  126. Makka

    Channel 9 commentary booth is full of dribbling cretins

    Yes , I see Jacko is in there ffs. His gay rendition of “Rio” any minute.

  127. Top Ender

    Scrolled through the channels looking for the Sydney to Hobart start but nothing.

    I thought it was on at 12. Must be wrong.

  128. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Wild Oats just having a test run up the harbor now. It was really whizzing along in spite of there being very little wind. Hairy, who is now up, says it is not a ‘new’ Wild Oats and where did I get dat idea? I’m sure he told me it was a new one when we saw it out testing a few weeks ago. Anyway, we are going to go up to the cliff tops after a light brunch to watch it propelled along by the breezes in the open ocean.

  129. stackja

    Top Ender
    #2593987, posted on December 26, 2017 at 12:09 pm

    2GB says 1pmAEDST

  130. Makka

    I thought it was on at 12. Must be wrong.

    12.3o Sydney time on Seven?

  131. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    It starts at 1pm, Top Ender.
    The media helicopters are starting to fly around even now.
    Small boats getting into position to cheer the start.

  132. stackja

    RSHYR 2017: Broadcasting live from 1230 AEDT on Channel 7 and this website

    Channel 7’s live broadcast of the race start will be viewable at this page in every country

  133. Nick

    I.T the brains trust here was just bemoaning the same. Is it about money in that they want five days of crowds (at the expense of good cricket)?

  134. Rae

    AC prefs flowed strongly back to LNP in Bennelong.

    AC are Liberals by another name. Just an avenue for registering a protest vote without really voting against Turnbulls Liberals.

  135. Tom

    Rebecca Ballhaus, a leftard hactivist who used to work for the Puffington Host, has a Christmas Day GetTrump piece at wsj.com (which has been picked up by the Paywallian to troll its readership):

    President Donald Trump, who is currently spending a 10-day Christmas vacation at the Florida luxury resort he owns, has visited one of his company’s properties on nearly one-third of the days he has been in office, according to a Wall Street Journal review of the president’s travel.

    Our frightbat is outraged that Trump’s hotel properties are using his popularity (which, of course, doesn’t exist, according to the fake news media’s fake polls) to increase their room rates, which is conferring on him a financial benefit.

    How dare POTUS45 not have a corrupt crony pay-to-play network like the Clinton Foundation. How dare he stay at his own properties to save taxpayers’ money. How dare he work for free.

  136. Zatara

    CNN Commentary: Trump Could Be ‘Most Consequential President of Modern Era’

    “But there’s a temptation in those observations to conclude that his administration, the passage of the tax bill notwithstanding, is static, gridlocked. That nothing is getting done in a polarized climate. That would be a mistake. In fact, if the pace of change continues for the duration of Trump’s presidency, however long that might be, I think he could become the most consequential president in the modern era. Consequential meaning most important and significant. Having the biggest overall impact. As with the criteria that “Time” magazine uses when determining its person of the year. This is not necessarily a good thing. Think about it. A Supreme Court position that was by rights a democratic pick, instead went to trump. And his influence on shaping the federal judiciary is far greater than just Neil Gorsuch on the nation’s highest court.”

    Wow, CNN must have got a clue for Christmas.

  137. Makka

    How dare POTUS45 not have a corrupt crony pay-to-play network like the Clinton Foundation. How dare he stay at his own properties to save taxpayers’ money. How dare he work for free.

    Hoe dare he do this transparently in the full glare of media and public scrutiny.

  138. Steve trickler.

    Mute the cricket commentary.



  139. H B Bear

    Boxing Day Test has all the entertainment value of a man kicking a dog. And it is only the first two hours of it.

  140. Rae

    Once they allow big catamarans on foils to enter the Sydney to Hobart race will be over in a day.

  141. Arky

    Your ballsack is sexist.
    You will be required to hand it in at the nearest post office or police station for safe storage.
    A permit to operate your ballsack can be obtained after undergoing training and filing an application stating your intended purpose.
    Valid reasons for obtaining a ballsack licence are:
    1. Sporting use. (proof of club membership required)
    2. Target practice. (You may retain your ballsack if you make it availiable for lesbians to piff things at it)
    3. Hunting. (We will give you a ten second head start)
    4. Primary industry. (Complete form at Safescchools/happysack/primary_recreation)

  142. egg_

    Lord Waffleworth has completely destroyed the Lieborals primary vote = loss of the rusted ons. The 2PP numbers pollsters are using are probably wrong with PHON and AC now in the mix.

    The Lieborals will be annihilated on these numbers. A great result.

    +1

    Must be some vewwy nervous back benchers.

  143. Top Ender

    Thanks for the Sydney to Hobart advice.

    Jeez, i hate Tv adverts!

  144. egg_

    Once they allow big catamarans on foils to enter the Sydney to Hobart race will be over in a day.

    Good.
    Otherwise like Test Cricket/watching paint dry – a pastime, not a sport.

  145. cohenite

    CNN: ‘It’s a Wonderful Life’ Is ‘Inherently Sexist,’ Should Be ‘Retired’

    CNN writer Carol Costello says she has “cooled to classics like ‘It’s a Wonderful Life,’” lamenting that in a post-Harvey Weinstein world, she can never again watch that movie “in the same way [she] did when [she] was a kid” because she keeps wondering if it is “inherently sexist.”

    “And that’s a good thing,” she adds.

    Mz Costello is inherently bonkers yet gets paid for this crud. Sheesh.

    I may be sexist but after looking at this Costello bint I reckon she is a classic case of vagina dentata. I hate that.

  146. Makka

    The Lieborals will be annihilated on these numbers. A great result.

    Outstanding result.

  147. Leigh Lowe

    A Supreme Court position that was by rights a democratic pick, instead went to trump. And his influence on shaping the federal judiciary is far greater than just Neil Gorsuch on the nation’s highest court.”

    By rights?
    Really?
    No … Obumbi couldn’t be arsed trying to negotiate Garland’s nomination through the Senate, safe in the knowledge that Illary would win and eventually a Liberal SCOTUS nominee would get up.

  148. Top Ender

    Can’t see the LGBTI$&@ yacht but presume it’s there somewhere.

  149. Infidel Tiger

    Why does the start matter in a 2000 mile boat race?

  150. rickw

    I see a few are of this opinion

    I think everyone is of that opinion, yet to meet anyone since it happened who don’t think that Vic Pol are a bunch of lying scumbags.

  151. min

    Perhaps someone can send Frank in the Vatican one of those cartoons where Palestinians show their kids how to kill Jews.

  152. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger

    #2594015, posted on December 26, 2017 at 1:00 pm

    Why does the start matter in a 2000 mile boat race?

    Most yachties are Sydney-sider pindicks.
    Next question.

  153. Infidel Tiger

    Yes, it’s a very sydney event.

    The only race boats should be involved in is to the mooring at Rotto so you can scoff crayfish and drink Riesling until you keel over with acute liver failure.

  154. C.L.

    Trump clips the UN $285,000,000.
    Merry Christmas, assholes.

  155. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Trump clips the UN $285,000,000.
    Merry Christmas, assholes.

    MAGA. Trump is God.

  156. Top Ender

    Could have a Sydney to Hobart division where the crew have to drink three beers an hour for the duration. Pizzas to be flown in by Domino drone.

    No rescues allowed.

  157. Bruce in WA

    Re the supermaxi LDV Comanche … anyone know what LDV stands for? Can’t find it on the net. TIA

  158. C.L.

    Our police are uncompromising … when it comes to beating up women (video):

    A woman could be seen walking past an officer and appeared to lightly touch them on the shoulder, then be roughly shoved to the ground.

    Seconds later another woman, who was next to the first one when she was pushed, appeared to throw something past the officer’s head.

    It wasn’t clear whether the projectile hit the officer but the policeman responded by shoving her down next to the first woman.

    The second woman was then dragged to the ground when she stood up, then handcuffed and led away by the same officer.

    At the same time, a third woman wearing a white dress was pushed over by another officer and a loud scream was heard.

    After the women were pushed, the crowd began throwing bottles in the general direction of police, one of which appeared to hit a policeman.

    Good.

  159. Woolfe

    Top Ender it’s at the rear of the pack

  160. Leigh Lowe

    Infidel Tiger

    #2594015, posted on December 26, 2017 at 1:00 pm

    Why does the start matter in a 2000 mile boat race?

    You’d like to see someone in a maxi do a Francis Drake.
    Sit in the yacht club smoking a dhurrie for half an hour waiting for the traffic to clear then head off on the running tide and catch them before teatime.
    Of course, the yachtie start is all about getting the sponsor’s logo on telly and sfa to do with race tactics.

  161. C.L.

    Well, they do have to, you know, start.

  162. H B Bear

    Why does the start matter in a 2000 mile boat race?

    The whole thing is just a pissing contest for capitalists with big cheque books. Not that there is anything wrong with that.

  163. W Hogg

    By rights?
    Really?
    No … Obumbi couldn’t be arsed trying to negotiate Garland’s nomination through the Senate, safe in the knowledge that Illary would win and eventually a Liberal SCOTUS nominee would get up.

    I’m not a fan of the confirmation process being turned into partisan obstruction. By all means knock out wildly unqualified or poor character or unusually partisan appointments. For example, I’d have loved a confirmation hearing into why Roxon’s 18 mon legal career qualified her to be AG. But now the Dems are spending 4 years on confirmation hearings. Since the meeja will never criticise this, it will be “time to stop the madness” at the next Dem POTUS’ term.

    Yes, the Kenyan was lazy but it’s not a great precedent to simply steal a nomination.

  164. zyconoclast

    stackja
    #2593922, posted on December 26, 2017 at 10:21 am
    Baldrick
    #2593907, posted on December 26, 2017 at 10:00 am

    Woolworths Hot Cross Buns Traditional 6pk

    I clicked the link and it says they are unavailable.
    Sold out?

  165. W Hogg

    That said, nor is it a great precedent to murder Scalia to create the vacancy in the first place.

  166. EvilElvis

    Perth is by far and away, Australia’s best capital.

    Only because it hasn’t had enough shit jammed into it like Melbourne and Sydney, yet. It’s slowly getting worse and worse. Once the population approaches 3 million it will have a more familiar feel for our east coast cousins.

  167. Mother Lode

    What a disappointing pope he has been.

    I had never heard of him before his elevation to Popetudinosity, but by the way he was written about in the press – how he walked about witgout any grandeur dignity pretence (grandeur and dignity would be a pretence for this guy) and how he would beam beatifically compassionately non-comprehendingly at the grimy little Argentinian urchins – I really did not expect much from him.

    He has, however, exceeded my ‘not expectations’.

    Question is – how did the Cardinals that chose him think such an inadequate, shallow person would make a good leader of The Church?

    When was the last socialist country that allowed the faithful to live their faith in peace without being molested and persecuted?

  168. Oh come on

    Arks, I have an old, once-close friend who I haven’t caught up with for a while and I think there’s a reasonably good chance our friendship has become untenable. She has become a hard core feminist over the last three or four years and sees sexism everywhere. Of course in all the usual places (wage gap, women in management, the existence of a patriarchy etc) but also in really damn bizarre places. She once claimed that the cops would focus more strongly on catching a serial killer who targeted males rather than females. Huh?? And that Roy Moore would never have stood a chance in Alabama if he’d been accused of molesting boys rather than girls, as if people care more when boys rather than girls are abused, and that it wouldn’t have been discomfort with a man who was inclined to shtup boys and young men in a bible belt state! Oh no clearly sexism was at work. This mindset truly is pathological. And obviously is not at all compatible with my perspective.

    She got married a few years ago (I actually think this is what drove her over the edge – refusing to bow to conventional female gender expectations or some shit) and her husband is a genuinely good, decent, sensible, nice bloke. They stick together, I reckon, because he is fundamentally apolitical and they simply wouldn’t touch on matters that set her off. But he strikes me as very much the type who’d want children – I’ve been told his family most definitely is, and he’s close to his family. He’d surely be a good dad, too. My friend really doesn’t appear all that interested in children and the sisterhood has convinced her that her husband has zero say in whether they try to have any. It’s *her* decision and she’s taking her sweet time in making it. Unfortunately, she’s nearly 40 and time is not on her side. May already be too late. It’s not like she isn’t aware of this – during a chat a while back she said to me that she’d be super-pissed if in the future she and her husband split, he remarried and went on to have kids with his new wife while she couldn’t do the same due to her age. Well, um…yeah. Could happen. Could definitely happen.

    It’s sad because I can see how her rabid feminism –
    how her instinctive victimhood, how all her needs must come first – is in danger of poisoning all of the male relationships she has in her life. I know I should probably just let the friendship drift away into the past the same way a great many friendships go, but we’ve been mates since childhood, there’s history there. I guess I know now what it feels like to have to cut someone you value out of your life because they’re a heavy drug addict or they’ve joined a cult or something.

    Milo was absolutely right when he made that infamous three word speech at UMass (the event where Trigglypuff first rose to internet superstardom) – “Feminism is cancer”.

  169. Baldrick

    Perth is by far and away, Australia’s best capital.

    If nothing else, it’s the furtherest capital from Canberra and that has to be a good thing.

  170. zyconoclast

    I had some Johnny Walker Gold Label Reserve yesterday.
    No ice, slightly chilled.
    Very nice drink.

  171. C.L.

    The talk in Rome is that away from the cameras Francis is an angry, nasty tyrant.

    He’s very humble, though. Ask him – he’ll tell you.

  172. Infidel Tiger

    Perth is still a recognisably Australian city. Too many Poms for sure, but we have only a smattering of weird beards and skinnies so far.

    No doubt that will all change as quickly as our betters can arrange it.

  173. Makka

    Question is – how did the Cardinals that chose him think such an inadequate, shallow person would make a good leader of The Church?

    His first job is to return the favour of the cardinals that put him there.

  174. C.L.

    Saw the Kingsmen sequel last night.
    Two stars only – and they’re for the Elton John gag, which was pretty bloody funny.

  175. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Perth is still a recognisably Australian city. Too many Poms for sure, but we have only a smattering of weird beards and skinnies so far.

    Not a bad description of the place.

  176. Tom

    Just got the shock of my life. There is a troll named “Anna” working the Paywallian/WSJ.com GetTrump story about the amount of time Trump is spending at properties he owns. She has responded to dozens of pro-Trump comments, to which I responded:

    @Anna @Tom So Anna is today’s designated GetUp! troll. Work harder, Anna. There are still a few comments you haven’t replied to. Out of curiosity, does Soros pay you double time on Boxing Day?

    Rabz, my good man, my comment got through! Even the work experience kids moderating comments at the Paywallian are sick of her.

  177. Bruce in WA

    but we have only a smattering of weird beards and skinnies so far.

    Been over Dianella/Morley/Bedford/Nollamara way lately?

  178. egg_

    And some 1930s Doulton I picked up in an op shop because like me some fool never used it.

    My daughter collects individual tea cups – have given her a few antiques I’ve had (had an online antiques store at one stage – successfully shipped an 1860s? hand painted Japanese plate to Tas).

  179. zyconoclast

    Newspoll shows the Coalition has failed to address a significant problem with male voters, where its support dropped a further point to 35 per cent — a nine-point fall since the election — giving Labor a narrow lead among men for the first time.

    Female voters have also marked Mr Turnbull down, with a five-point rise in the number of women dissatisfied with his performance since the September quarter.

    Not to worry, Maocolm has cornered the transgender, alphabet acronym freaks vote.
    That 2% of the population he and the LNP have obsessed over since 2013.

  180. Makka

    Been over Dianella/Morley/Bedford/Nollamara way lately?

    Or South?

    The space given over for parks and playing fields in Perth is very wise. Let’s hope they stop loathing motorists.

  181. egg_

    Could have a Sydney to Hobart division where the crew have to drink three beers an hour for the duration. Pizzas to be flown in by Domino drone.

    Cut the boats out of it and have a drone race.

  182. Makka

    Saw the Kingsmen sequel last night.

    One star too many.

  183. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Been over Dianella/Morley/Bedford/Nollamara way lately?

    Is there still a mosque in Mirrabooka? I recall when the followers of the Prophet used to gather outside and abuse “Aussie sluts” in the street. Cops got fed up with breaking up the ensuing brawls.

  184. zyconoclast

    …where a hound can sit at your feet while you have a beer…

    The only involvement an animal should have while you are eating or drinking is as part of the menu.
    I wont eat at places that I know that allow animals in or near where I want eat.
    Even companion/helper animals bother me.
    Don’t even mention zoocouples.

  185. Robber Baron

    Was at Harvey Norman in Preston to buy the wife a fitness tracker.

    It was a zoo. It was wall-to-wall labor voters. Tattoos on necks, Chinese, Indians (gosh they smell, do they ever wash?), and Arabs/Africans. They all had attitude. Pushing. Rude. Standing in your way. Speaking in their own language. I suspect that no one in the store of non-European descent had been in the country for more than two years.

    They’re not sending us their best.

    Australia is truly a shit hole.

    Off to Bunnings now. I’m dreading this as well.

  186. zyconoclast

    Can’t see the LGBTI$&@ yacht but presume it’s there somewhere.

    Probably being skippered by a retired Rear Admiral, crewed by Roger the Cabin Boy and the sails covered in seamen stains.

  187. OCO;

    My friend really doesn’t appear all that interested in children and the sisterhood has convinced her that her husband has zero say in whether they try to have any. It’s *her* decision and she’s taking her sweet time in making it. Unfortunately, she’s nearly 40 and time is not on her side. May already be too late. It’s not like she isn’t aware of this – during a chat a while back she said to me that she’d be super-pissed if in the future she and her husband split, he remarried and went on to have kids with his new wife while she couldn’t do the same due to her age. Well, um…yeah. Could happen. Could definitely happen.

    Well, um…yeah. Could happen. Will definitely happen.
    So, she wanted to ride the cock carousel, have her flings, and presumed the men in her life would wait for her?
    Reality/Brick Wall time.
    Hubby will walk away and marry a 25yo who wants a family and is not a self centered daddies girl.

  188. Infidel Tiger

    Warner outfoxed by a debutant.

  189. jupes

    FMD Warner. What was that?

    Good grief, it’s a no-ball.

    As Bill would say: “It’s all happening at the MCG”.

  190. Infidel Tiger

    They’re not sending us their best

    Don’t worry Peter Dutton the conservative hope for Australia is going to make sure at least another 300,000 come in next year and the year after that and the year after that… but we’re tough on boats!

  191. Arky

    I know I should probably just let the friendship drift away into the past the same way a great many friendships go, but we’ve been mates since childhood, there’s history there. I guess I know now what it feels like to have to cut someone you value out of your life because they’re a heavy drug addict or they’ve joined a cult or something.

    ..
    No.
    Don’t just walk away from it.
    Drop the truth on her. Bigly.
    It will explode the whole thing and you will never hear from her again.
    But it might implant a kernel in her.
    Or you could start gently teasing her about her future cat-infested divorced future.
    Either way, you owe it to your balls to speak up.
    Also think of the poor bastard going childless during his best Dad years.

  192. notafan

    I have cup saucer plate sets too egg

    I haven’t bought them for years, had to balance hobby with obsession.

    My grandmother also collected them too, said I could have them but they are somewhere in my mother’s attic, I’ll get them one day if I am patient.

    Couldn’t be bothered making a fuss about it.

  193. Leo G

    Re the supermaxi LDV Comanche … anyone know what LDV stands for? Can’t find it on the net. TIA

    Leyland DAF Vehicles.

  194. egg_

    Your ballsack is sexist.

    The metrosexuals at Aunty all checked theirs in at Reception.

  195. egg_

    Even driving about the Sinney ‘burbs near work, encounter Mo’s driving baby SUVs that seem to like playing chicken with my 6-litre bogan mobile – the sand goblins obviously have no knowledge of the physics involved – equal mass, lower centre of gravity and more ponies equals I win, even if you’re on stilts.

  196. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    NATIONAL BREAKING NEWS
    Drunken Sydney beach party ‘un-Australian’

    Dominica Sanda
    Australian Associated Press
    2:14PM December 26, 2017
    Save

    The behaviour of Christmas revellers who attended a boozy, unauthorised Sydney beach party has been called un-Australian after two police officers were allegedly injured trying to move the partygoers on.

    Police were called to Little Bay, south of Maroubra, on Monday afternoon after reports of the large backpacker gathering and arrived to find more than 3000 people drinking, singing and dancing.

    As the crowd was moved on, two women, one a UK national and the other from Ireland, were arrested after allegedly hitting police officers with bottles.

    They have since been charged with assaulting police.

    “My officers were on the receiving end of some alcohol-fuelled violence and it was dealt with swiftly in order to bring the matter under control,” Superintendent Karen McCarthy told reporters in Randwick on Tuesday.

    “The people at the party were intoxicated, they were obviously in a festive mood and the majority of people were compliant with police actions, however, there was a small, isolated incident.”

    I would have described getting totally flyblown on Christmas day, and getting into a rumble with the cops as being the ultimate in Australian behaviour? When did we change?

  197. Ivan Denisovich

    The talk in Rome is that away from the cameras Francis is an angry, nasty tyrant.

    He’s very humble, though. Ask him – he’ll tell you.

    The Dictator Pope:

    The title above is the name of a book that appeared Monday in English (after earlier publication in Italian) by a writer who has assumed a grand Renaissance pseudonym: Marcantonio Colonna (an admiral at Lepanto). He evidently could not publish under his real name, for fear of reprisals. But the case he lays out is largely convincing: that Pope Francis has carefully cultivated an image in public as the apostle of mercy, kindness, and openness; in private, he’s authoritarian, given to profanity-laced outbursts of anger, and manipulative in pursuing his agenda.

    https://www.thecatholicthing.org/2017/12/06/the-dictator-pope/

  198. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    That was great! A true Sydney spectacular, with lots of Aussies and international tourists all out for a good day, some picnicing on the grass around the Lighthouse. We went to a spot we know where you can get a good view of both sides, so we got to see the start and then saw the race as they were coming around the heads. Our street and any others within walking distance were completely parked out though. Lucky we have our own parking.

    I waved frantically at any of the thirteen helicopters I counted up there just in case any Cats could scan the crowd from the pics on TV. Look for the blonde in the blue top and Hairy in his cream panama hat. 🙂

  199. egg_

    notafan
    #2594062, posted on December 26, 2017 at 2:17 pm

    Being a bloke, my fave piece was the elegant simplicity of a low profile wide brimmed coffee cup c. 1930.

    Summut like this Jap edition

  200. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    An exciting moment near us when the police helicopter swooped and two cops came racing down the hill by us as we were walking up to the farewell vista. The copter was hovering to drive people off high rocks outside the fence, and the two were presumably waiting to charge them.

    I don’t mind too much, because with such a crowd if it was allowed then some fool would get over there with kids and that would end in real disaster. In fact, we wondered at first if that was what had happened.

  201. egg_

    It was a zoo.

    Boxing Day specials will bring out the worst of the worst.

  202. Mark A

    My lovely Doulton set (or two) still hiding in a cupboard.

    Not the ones with the Periwinkle?

  203. Rae

    Of course, the yachtie start is all about getting the sponsor’s logo on telly and sfa to do with race tactics.

    Don’t know about that so much, hard to miss the sponsor logos on the sails of the maxi-yachts.

    Sailing tactics are important at any time in the race. Wild Oats XI tacking in front of LDV Comanche incurred a protest but allowed Wild Oats XI to sail clear into 2nd place just through the heads. When she is far enough ahead down the coast her skipper can choose to do a 360° as a penalty, or wait to see if she doesn’t need to.

  204. notafan

    It is indeed a lovely cup egg

    Love the colours and the shape

    Wedgwood Ulander Powder Ruby is my personal favourite of the ones I collected back in the day

    my grandmother had some stunning art deco stuff including hot pink and black doulton iirc

  205. egg_

    Most yachties are Sydney-sider pindicks.

    LMFAO.
    As most of the ladies can attest, I’m sure.

  206. Jo Smyth

    Having travelled all around Australia, always glad to get back to Perth. Only problem is Labor and the Unions are in charge now so good chance it will all turn to sh..

  207. notafan

    No Mark

    mine is Sapphire Blossom

  208. notafan

    Off to Bunnings now. I’m dreading this as well.

    I was in a Bunnings at 9.30 this morning no boxing day sales there so not so bad

    Have to go back at four so hope that is still going to be the case

  209. egg_

    It is indeed a lovely cup egg

    IIRC mine was Royal Doulton, but not Willow Pattern, more Grecian? inspired.

  210. Tom

    I waved frantically at any of the thirteen helicopters I counted up there just in case any Cats could scan the crowd from the pics on TV. Look for the blonde in the blue top and Hairy in his cream panama hat. 🙂

    So that was you, Elizabeth.

    Just as well I have no interest and wasn’t watching.

  211. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Only problem is Labor and the Unions are in charge now so good chance it will all turn to sh..

    Unions have already told Mark McGowan “We put you there, and you owe us.”

  212. mizaris

    Warner needs to learn the virtue of humility. That carry on for his 100 was embarrassingly bad sportsmanship. And the subsequent out only cost the Poms 4 runs anyway.

  213. I would have described getting totally flyblown on Christmas day, and getting into a rumble with the cops as being the ultimate in Australian behaviour? When did we change?

    We haven’t.
    You’ll find that the people on that beach were all Europeans here on a 417 visa.

  214. Arky

    Is it the case that we are flooded with cheap shitty clothes made in third world shitholes because modern chicks can’t sew, darn or knit; or is it that modern chicks can’t sew, darn or knit because we are flooded with cheap shitty clothes from third world shitholes?
    What say you, lady cats?

  215. mizaris

    I have a beautiful Royal Albert tea set which my sisters bought in the UK and carried all over Europe, then finally back to Australia. It comes out for Special Birthday afternoon teas. I love it because it’s light and pretty and feminine. But it looks lovely in the Perth sunshine too.

    Khawaja does not look comfortable. Again.

  216. Arky

    Instead of fucking about causing maths and sciences to be dumbed down, movies to contain stupid, unrralistic chick shit and soldiering to become the girl guides, chicks need to learn how to darn socks, bake, mother and keep house.

  217. notafan

    I don’t speak for others Arky

    but I think removal of tariffs caused the rot to set in

    I used to sew and knit (darning is way overrated) for my children even though, unlike my mother, I held down a part time or full time job as well , now I buy nice things for little cousins on line or when I go to Europe or the US.

    My great grandmother was the last I heard of knitting silk stockings, some things were abandoned by sensible people long before cheap stuff from the third world

  218. Arky

    And a plethora of fat ugly chicks don’t belong in my workplace.
    That is what nunneries were for.
    If a large collection of socialist, fat arsed, man haters gathered in one place was uber productive then nunneries would have been hotbeds of creativety.

  219. Stimpson J. Cat

    Is it the case that we are flooded with cheap shitty clothes made in third world shitholes because modern chicks can’t sew

    Wamen don’t have time to sew.
    They are busy battling stereotypes.

    Also Merry Christmas.

  220. stackja

    Gough cut tariffs. Helped overseas business. How much went to rich? How much to workers?

  221. OldOzzie

    Bruce in WA
    #2594024, posted on December 26, 2017 at 1:21 pm
    Re the supermaxi LDV Comanche … anyone know what LDV stands for? Can’t find it on the net. TIA

    The Biggest Car Company You’ve Never Heard Of

    You probably haven’t heard much about LDV before. Even though we’re part of SAIC, the biggest auto manufacturer in China, we’re a pretty new name here in Australia. But that’s ok. We’re more than ready to prove ourselves.

    So who are SAIC? Not only are they a Fortune Global 500 company – they’re actually the 41st biggest company in the world1 – they’ve also been around since the 1940s. LDV became part of SAIC back in 2010 when they acquired the commercial division of the British Motor Corporation, and LDV can be traced way back to the 1890s. That’s a lot of vehicles made, sold, and seen drive out the door. Basically – it’s safe to say we know our stuff when it comes to cars. SAIC also manufactured over 6 million vehicles in 2016 and in 2015 ranked 10th on Forbes magazine’s list of the largest auto companies in the world2.

    They’ve also made products that have been sold under some of the most recognisable car names in the world via joint ventures with General Motors and Volkswagen. It’s safe to say we know what we’re talking about when it comes to cars.

    #DamnFineCars

    1Fortune Global 500, 2017 2Forbes Global

    LDV T60 ute 2017 price and specification confirmed for Australia

  222. notafan

    If a large collection of socialist, fat arsed, man haters gathered in one place was uber productive then nunneries would have been hotbeds of creativety.

    I think you are mistaken about the appropriate place for socialist man haters

    Depending on the rule many enc;osed nuns in nunneries not only practiced silence but were vegetarians before it was fashionable (and food was limited as well)

  223. Stimpson J. Cat

    she’d be super-pissed if in the future she and her husband split, he remarried and went on to have kids with his new wife while she couldn’t do the same due to her age

    The very definition of a dumb c$nt.
    A wamen so smart she thinks that out thinking her biological urges will lead to happy ever after.
    Happy ever after only happens with a heir.
    Every princess knows this.

    Goddamned Eat Love Pray has a lot to answer for.

  224. Stimpson J. Cat

    Perth is by far and away, Australia’s best capital.

    It’s true.
    The large numbers of Asians still at least attempt to try and speak English and so far there have been no alarming disappearances of cats and dogs.

  225. calli

    Is that the Naif Calli?

    No, this one, nota. It came with masses of tea cups and saucers which I rarely use. Except when all the girls come for tea and we want to be posh.

  226. Stimpson J. Cat

    “Feminism is cancer”.

    Feminism is the Enemy of Motherhood:
    Stimpson J. Cat

  227. calli

    Well, that was a great start to the race! Wild Oats tacked brutally to a chorus of sweariness and gesturing.

    Good stuff. Better than Formula One.

  228. notafan

    Very pretty Calli

    I do like flower patterns

    Especially love the violas

  229. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    OPINION
    Cashless debit cards protect Aboriginal women and children

    Jacinta Nampijinpa Price
    The Australian
    12:00AM December 26, 2017

    The left seems to be increasingly more concerned with the rights of the individual when those individuals are alcoholics, addicts and abusers assaulting women and children — the rights of the victims themselves are ignored.

    Empty rhetoric and vacuous, overused weasel words are used to bolster the argument against obviously effective tools such as the cashless debit card.

    When those in the sheltered towers of academe — such as Melbourne’s Elise Klein in a recent article — denounce the CDC, they are in effect attacking voiceless, marginalised Australian women and children, enduring a life alien to those in virtue-signalling metropolitan coffee claques.

    To witness Labor now align itself with the Greens and backflip on its bipartisan support for the CDC being trialled further afield can be likened to watching it supply dangerous drugs to an addict or weapons to a violent abuser. It seems the rights of the perpetrators come first.

    In the Aboriginal tradition of thousands of years, the rights of the collective mob quashed the rights of the individual.

    This was a matter of survival in a hunter-gatherer system. But we live in the modern age, in a modern country — informed by the Enlightenment’s upholding of the rights of the individual. And the CDC aims to defend those individual rights against the tyranny of the mob.

    Yes, traditional society was based on a demand-share economy. Sharing reinforces kin relationships and boosts the status of the sharer. Men have higher status than women. They are less obliged than women to share. Before money, it was the only way people could expect to survive. Now, in a cash economy, it is an economic disaster easily descending into abusive “humbug”.

    When applied to food distribution, theoretically everybody got to eat.

    Even then, women sometimes missed out on their share if they were married to demanding and uncaring husbands.

    Even the highly empathetic anthropologist Diane Austin-Broos in her book, Arrernte Present, Arrernte Past, admits that children sometimes are undernourished because their carers — wise and ethically minded elders — are so readily inclined to give money away to kin, especially adult male relatives, leaving less than enough to buy adequate food for dependent children.

    From the Oz.

  230. Arky

    Having spent two years at home raising a small child I can honestly make the following points:
    Someone needs to stay home full time for at least the first three years of a child’s life.
    This is both the best and most important thing you will ever do.
    Men, myself included, are not ideally equiped for this task.
    Chicks need to man- up and reclaim motherhood as their greatest contribution.

  231. notafan

    Totally agree Arky

    I did my best, in the circumstances.

  232. calli

    This is the one that lurks in the cupboard. Setting for 8, including veggie dish, tureen, gravy boat, even napkin rings. Waste of money.

    And don’t get me started on the hideous family silver and tea service designed by the Devil.

  233. Arky

    I did my best, in the circumstances.

    ..
    I’m sure you did a great job Nota.
    But you aren’t finished unless you communicate the experience to the next generations.
    You have to sell it.

  234. EvilElvis

    …reclaim motherhood as their greatest contribution.

    Indeed, Arky. Reclaim.

    Not claim motherhood,
    Claim fauning Facebook followers,
    Claim benefits,
    Claim child support,
    Claim child care,
    Claim heroism,
    Claim sainthood.

    Half of them couldn’t boil an egg..

  235. Tom

    Chicks need to man- up and reclaim motherhood as their greatest contribution.

    That is so unfair, Arky. Feminist Lesbians and trannies are on the verge of successfully transitioning to replace men and retrospectively having the Industrial Revolution declared illegal. You are so prejudiced against wymmymnses who’d rather live in caves.

  236. Davey Boy

    If you’re pining for Q&A it’s on this evening

  237. Whalehunt Fun

    Eggs don’t boil. If they did they would explode.
    You heat the egg to the boiling point of water, but the egg contents don’t themselves boil.
    Signed, the enduringly antagonising halfwat pedant.
    EAHP

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