Open Forum: December 30, 2017

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  1. Baldrick

    4th Machine-Gun Company A.I.F

    Dwyer, John James (Jack) (1890–1962)
    Sergeant Dwyer was awarded the Victoria Cross for most conspicuous bravery when in attack on 26 September 1917 during the Battle of Polygon Wood in Belgium. His citation explains in detail:
    Sergeant Dwyer, in charge of a Vickers machine gun, went forward with the first wave of the brigade. On reaching the final objective, this non-commissioned officer rushed his gun forward in advance of the captured position in order to obtain a commanding spot. Whilst advancing, he noticed an enemy machine gun firing on the troops on our right flank, and causing casualties. Unhesitatingly, he rushed his gun forward to within 30 yards of the enemy gun, and fired point blank at it, putting it out of action, and killing the gun crew. He then seized the gun and, totally ignoring the snipers from the rear of the enemy position carried it back across the shell swept ground to our front line, and established both it and his Vickers gun on the right flank of our brigade. Sergeant Dwyer commanded these guns with great coolness, and, when the enemy counter attacked our positions, he rendered great assistance in repulsing them.

  2. Oh come on

    But on a lighter note, you’ll be able to look to the skies for a fireworks display designed by Australian actor Hugh Jackman.

    Milo described him as “the gay one who played Wolverine”.

  3. jupes

    Speaking of Muslims, here’s what is happening in Egypt while the Pope bangs on about the stupid ‘Palestinians’.

    Egypt attack: At least 10 dead in attack on Coptic church south of Cairo

    Unfortunately Muslims don’t only kill their fellow Muslims.

  4. Mitch M.

    For 50 years they told us that fat was bad. What is bad is relying on food frequency questionnaires and retrospective studies. Note the saturated fat-stroke linkage.
    http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(17)32252-3/fulltext

    Associations of fats and carbohydrate intake with cardiovascular disease and mortality in 18 countries from five continents (PURE): a prospective cohort study

    Interpretation
    High carbohydrate intake was associated with higher risk of total mortality, whereas total fat and individual types of fat were related to lower total mortality. Total fat and types of fat were not associated with cardiovascular disease, myocardial infarction, or cardiovascular disease mortality, whereas saturated fat had an inverse association with stroke. Global dietary guidelines should be reconsidered in light of these findings.

  5. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    This one’s for Baldrick. Reading Ross McMullin’s book “Pompey Elliott At War” – at the height of the battle of Polygon Wood, Elliott, commanding a brigade, with all that entailed, received three pieces of news, in rapid succession – his brother had been killed, his brother – in – law, had been killed, and his business partner in Australia had left Elliot liable for debts, to the tune of half a million dollars in today’s money.

  6. Harlequin Decline

    The images of TLS et al were bad but, believe it or not in the UK there is worse. The dregs of the left.

  7. Baldrick

    Zulu Kilo Two Alpha
    #2596425, posted on December 30, 2017 at 12:30 am

    And a sad ending for a solider when he committed suicide in 1931, suffering what is know known as PTSD and depression.

  8. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    And a sad ending for a solider when he committed suicide in 1931, suffering what is know known as PTSD and depression

    Reading his diary entries, he was on the way down for a long time.

    FWIW, Elliot ordered his troops in Egypt that he didn’t want to see a mixture of hats, on parade. All his men had better have slouch hats, and he didn’t care where they came from. Elliot went to lunch at the officer mess, threw his slouch hat under his chair, and ate an excellent lunch. After lunch, he reached under his chair, to discover his slouch hat missing…

    Onya, the Aussie digger, wherever you are, and in whatever hellhole you are.

  9. Mitch M.

    And a sad ending for a solider when he committed suicide in 1931, suffering what is know known as PTSD and depression.

    The following text is a good account 0f the issue. For every physical injury there are 2 psychiatric cases.
    A War of Nerves
    Soldiers and Psychiatrists in the Twentieth Century
    http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674011199

  10. Mike of Marion

    Tom,

    Wonderful searching on your part – Thank you.

    Mike

    PS

    amirez 1 – shouldn’t we be the dickheads sitting in the “bombed out caravan” after being absolutely shafted by the UN and our spineless Canberra?

  11. Bruce of Newcastle

    Michael Ramirez #2.

    As the snow keeps falling…

    Hollywood tries to save the Earth, but moviegoers aren’t buying eco-messages anymore

    Climate change got its close-up in 2017. A gaggle of films either name-checked Al Gore’s biggest fear or built their narratives around it.

    The timing, in theory, couldn’t be better for Hollywood bean counters: Three major hurricanes. Massive fires in the West. Record-setting chills. Media reports routinely connected the disasters with a warming planet.

    Yet audiences stayed away from films influenced by eco-concerns. Far, far away.

    Think “Blade Runner 2049,” “Geostorm,” “Downsizing,” “An Inconvenient Sequel: Truth to Power” and “mother!” They all flopped, some in spectacular fashion.

    Justin Haskins, executive editor at the right-leaning, free-market Heartland Institute, said Hollywood insiders remain fixated on saving the planet.

    “They believe climate change will bring people to the movies,” Mr. Haskins said. “That’s wildly out of touch with how moviegoers feel about the issue.”

    Between Trump, Weinstein and global not-warming the lefties of Hollywood had a terrible year.
    May it continue in 2018!

  12. feelthebern

    CNBC reports that Shake Shack is one of the most shorted stocks in the US (% of free float shorted).

  13. Snoopy

    ABC

    Romper Stomper reboot is a compelling investigation into Australia’s extremist politics

  14. Tintarella di Luna

    Top forty – Bill Shorten won’t be happy with the great survivor’s article this morning. Made my day

  15. Tintarella di Luna

    The mentally ill Flinder’s Street people-mower will now face one charge of murder and 18 of attempted murder. No great comfort to the families of the slain and almost-slain.

  16. Rae

    Bob Hawke needs a kick in his ancient dentures.

  17. BrettW

    Grounds for a legal case against the clinic/Government ?

    From the Daily Mail via Daily Tele
    Crisis talks will be held over the weekend between the NSW Roads Minister and senior police over how methadone users are able to drive away from a clinic after taking the drug. The conversation will form part of a meeting on the soaring road toll, The Daily Telegraph reported, following revelations the man responsible for a crash that hospitalised a Home and Away star and killed her family had been driving home after visiting a methadone clinic. Craig Whitall, 50, had been travelling home from a government-run clinic in Nowra on Boxing Day when his car swerved on to the wrong side of the road, killing him, and the parents of soap actress Jessica Falkholt.

  18. stackja

    Push for PM to fund youth gang-busting squad
    Rob Harris and Cassie Zervos, Herald Sun
    December 29, 2017 9:10pm
    Subscriber only
    THE Prime Minister is being urged to fund 80 new AFP officers to smash the gangs terrorising ­Melbourne’s suburbs.

    Federal Liberal MP and former police officer Jason Wood, who has served in Victoria’s counter-­terror and organised crime squads, will push for Malcolm Turnbull’s support to ­urgently establish two joint crime-fighting taskforces in light of a fresh wave of violence and intimidation.

    It comes after the Herald Sun on Friday reported how gangs of youths of mostly African origin — including the emerging Menace to Society — have turned Tarneit’s Ecoville community park into a no-go zone.

    The thugs, some as young as 10, ­repeatedly smash up what was once a family-friendly meeting spot.

    Under Mr Wood’s plan, 40 Australian Federal Police would aim at gang trouble spots in Melbourne’s west, and another 40 in the outer southeast.

    The La Trobe MP had floated a plan for a total of 50 AFP members to hit the streets, but is taking his ­upgraded proposal to Mr Turnbull as a matter of urgency.

    “The time where we say this is a ­policing issue or a state government issue has passed — enough is enough,” Mr Wood told the Herald Sun.

    “The PM needs to ensure the resources are made available to (Home Affairs Minister) Peter Dutton.

    “We must end the violence, which is taking a huge toll on communities across Melbourne,” Mr Wood said.

    “We as a federal government have control of the visas, we have the tactical resources, and our job is to keep the communities safe.

    “We need to take action ­before this violence and intimidation spreads even further.”

  19. Empire GTHO Phase III

    Fauxcahontas attempts to troll POTUS45 in response to his “bundle up” jibe and cops a spray.

    James Woods

    @RealJamesWoods
    DNA is also based in science. Yours does not show you are Native American. So either you are an outright liar or you actually don’t believe in science. Which is it?

    http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/12/29/warren-troll-trump-believe-science-climate-change-real/

  20. Snoopy

    Next. Taxpayer-funded taxi shuttles for clients of methadone clinics and heroin injection rooms?

  21. stackja

    BrettW
    #2596462, posted on December 30, 2017 at 7:43 am

    Ask Bob Carr.

  22. Mater

    Grounds for a legal case against the clinic/Government ?

    Watch the push to have the Community Nursing Services do home visits.

  23. stackja

    Drug culture normalised. What could possibly go wrong?

  24. Snoopy

    Federal Liberal MP and former police officer Jason Wood, who has served in Victoria’s counter-­terror and organised crime squads, will push for Malcolm Turnbull’s support to ­urgently establish two joint crime-fighting taskforces in light of a fresh wave of violence and intimidation.

    What an absolute dill. If this gets up, every time gangs run riot it will be Feds’ fault and not VicPol.

  25. stackja

    BrettW
    #2596462, posted on December 30, 2017 at 7:43 am

    The Daily Telegraph yesterday revealed Whitall’s dreadful driving record. He had been jailed for driving while disqualified and was on P-plates having only recently regained his licence.

    Who let him have his licence to kill?

  26. stackja

    RAP SHEET
    NAME
    Craig Anthony Whitall AKA Craig Andrew Whitall AKA Jamie Robert Wilson
    DOB
    March 1967
    CHARGES
    More than 60
    JULY 14, 2011
    Milton Local Court. Sentenced to 9 months’ jail with 6 months’ non-parole after pleading guilty to driving while disqualified. Banned for a further two years.
    SEPTEMBER 2, 2011
    District Court Wollongong. Released from jail and his sentence is suspended for two years. Driving ban confirmed.

  27. Mater

    Crisis talks will be held over the weekend between the NSW Roads Minister and senior police over how methadone users are able to drive away from a clinic after taking the drug.

    Bollards can fix anything.

  28. stackja

    Mater
    #2596472, posted on December 30, 2017 at 8:04 am

    Bollards on all roads. No cars!

  29. stackja

    Snoopy
    #2596469, posted on December 30, 2017 at 8:00 am

    VicPol have not done much. Maybe AFP can. But as with ACL bomber, not give much confidence.

  30. stackja

    Liberty Quote
    Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them.

    — Ronald Reagan

  31. Tintarella di Luna

    Coalition Club must make way for women – another brainburp from the Oh so Wrongsolen – because it’s worked so well for Labor – Yeah it’s the crap barrel scraping time of year.
    PETER VAN ONSELEN
    Contributing EditorSydney
    @vanOnselenP

    It’s that time of year: New Year’s resolutions. Here’s one for the Liberal Party: finally stump up, admit you’ve got a gender problem and damn well do something to fix it.

    Whenever gender quotas have been raised with conservatives, the collective reason for opposing them almost always has been rooted in the principle of merit. It’s a spurious argument at best, but it’s their excuse time and time again for not taking decisive action to fix the gender imbalance among their parliamentary representatives.

    The data doesn’t lie: there is no denying the huge disparity in representation between the major parties when it comes to gender. Today there are fewer Coalition women in parliament — as a percentage and as a total — than at any time during John Howard’s nearly 12 years in power.

    In contrast Labor, which has embraced quotas, has seen the number of women in parliament steadily rise. Years ago it was Labor that had a problem attracting women to join its ranks and run for parliament. The blokey culture of the party of the working class was less appealing than the Liberal Party for many women. Today, however, from what little we can glean from membership figures made available publicly, fewer woman are joining the party ranks of the conservatives.

    It’s not about whether the extra women Labor attracts into parliament are better than the men. It’s a case of overcoming culturally ingrained discrimination against women. Women have the right to be as good or as bad as male MPs. Quotas level the playing field, removing prejudice; they do not distort it, as is so often falsely argued. Linking quotas to the notion of identity politics, the political right deliberately has turned opposition to them into some sort of false defence of the values of liberalism.

    Even if gender quotas distort merit-based selection — which they do not — conservatives can no longer claim they are the defenders of merit over quotas anyway. Last week Malcolm Turnbull belled the cat when he declared that “geography” won out over merit when Darren Chester was dumped from cabinet in favour of a Liberal National Party backbencher from Queensland. The Prime Minister and Nationals leader Barnaby Joyce felt that a geographical quota for Queensland was more important than meritorious elevation to cabinet because of the electoral threats Turnbull faces on his right flank in the sunshine state in the wake of the recent state election result. So much for the principled defence of merit over quotas falsely cited time and time again.

    This principle of quotas to ensure a reasonably reflective state-based distribution on the frontbench has long been in play for conservatives. I remember Howard referring to it when I interviewed him for his biography. And the Nationals have a formal quota for the number of cabinet ministers they get in government under the Coalition agreement. Quotas are unacceptable to conservatives only when gender is involved.

    It has irked me for some time that Liberals try to use merit as some element of liberalism that knocks out any embrace of quotas. Inconsistency is the only word to describe such claims.

    As a matter of simple logic, unless you believe women are less meritorious than men, how can anyone claim that merit has delivered the conservatives so few female MPs in the House of Representatives? Does anyone honestly believe the female sex is merit­oriously capable of holding only 17 per cent of Coalition seats in parliament? Or is it likelier that Liberals and Nationals have a problem in preselecting women or convincing them to run for preselection in the first place?

    How can anyone seriously believe merit is the defining principle for winning a parliamentary seat for the conservatives in the first place? A simple look at the gene pool in the House of Representatives or the Senate would clarify that misconception. Gender quotas aren’t about delivering better parliamentarians than are selected at present, even if that would be a likely consequence. They simply help to overcome in-built prejudices that discriminate against women. Unless, that is, you believe women are meritoriously capable of holding only 13 of 76 seats for the conservatives.

    And let’s not be distracted by the tired conservative red herring that gender quotas are a “slippery slope” that gives way to other micro-quotas based on race or ethnicity, for example. Women make up more than 50 per cent of the Australian population; no other cohort considered for a quota is so pervasive yet so shut out. Quotas are in fact a cultural norm for conservatives, just not gender quotas for some reason. Watching defenders of the quota for Nationals in the ministry twist and turn when condemning gender quotas may be a fun pastime, but the lack of self-awareness it highlights is disturbing in elected representatives who perform such an important role in our democratic polity.

    Liberals know they have a gender problem, even if they have yet to acknowledge that quotas are the only viable solution to it. Targets have been established, including a non-binding target of 50 per cent women in parliament by 2025. But targets work only if organisations have mechanisms in place to reward or punish line managers who meet or fail to meet the targets.

    That works in most businesses or private organisations — for example via bonuses or promotion opportunities linked to key performance indicators — but not in political parties. And you have to be realistic when setting targets. This year Qantas announced a target for its cadet intake to boost the number of female pilots. Liberals won’t embrace a quota even for newly preselected MPs, instead sticking to its entirely unachievable 50 per cent target in seven years.

    What will happen when (not if, because there is no doubt) the Liberal Party fails to meet its 50 per cent target by 2025? Nothing. No one will be held responsible, there are no bonuses to be withheld. There may be an electoral price, but even that is fuzzy at best because so many other factors dictate how people vote. Electoral success is no guide to the impact quotas necessarily have on a political party — there are too many independent variables in play, as any good researcher will tell you.

    The airline industry is also a good point of comparison to politics for another stale argument once used to shut out women: having more female pilots isn’t possible because of the travel and time away from home. Yet women account for 68 per cent of Qantas flight attendants. Cue face palm.

    Quotas let merit shine by removing long-term cultural barriers to meritorious women enter­ing parliament (or becoming pil­ots). Qantas is getting with the times; it’s a shame the Coalition isn’t. How many more years must we endure right-wing ideologues using quotas when it suits for geo­graphy or Coalition harmony, only to pan the idea when it comes to gender? The hypocrisy is simply staggering.

  32. Empire

    Greenfield calls out institutional refusal to acknowledge the jihadi presence:

    On Thursday morning, Saleh Ali took a walk to trendy Amstelveenseweg while wearing a keffiyah and waving a terrorist PLO flag. He stopped in front of a Jewish restaurant, shouted “Allahu Akbar” and began smashing the windows. The Amsterdam police stood by and watched quizzically until he was done. Then when he entered the restaurant, they finally called him out and arrested him.

  33. Geriatric Mayfly

    Fatty Ashton will have a relapse, if faced with the prospect of the AFP roaming around on his turf.

  34. Nick

    Despite the fact that Andrews destroys anything he touches, Victorians will still probably re elect him.

  35. Tintarella di Luna

    VicPol have not done much. Maybe AFP can. But as with ACL bomber, not give much confidence.

    Dutton just don’t do it – we don’t need more rounds of the blame-game – Remember Rudd wanted to end the blame game? No they want an never-ending blame game to cover the fact all jurisdictions are doing nothing to protect their citizens from harm, which basically means they’ve failed their duty in government.

  36. 132andBush

    Just caught up with the last thread.

    To Mater and Mike,
    All my very best wishes. Cancer treatment is one hell of a grind both physically and mentally.
    Good luck to you both!

  37. 132andBush

    PVO is being backgrounded by the anti Molan faction.
    Molan is seen as just another ageing, white, male. Just another in a party with too many ageing white males, unless, of course, that ageing white male happens to be pushing your barrow.

  38. Mater

    What will happen when (not if, because there is no doubt) the Liberal Party fails to meet its 50 per cent target by 2025? Nothing. No one will be held responsible, there are no bonuses to be withheld.

    Climate Change predictions, anyone?

    #bollardscanfixanything

  39. DrBeauGan

    Peter van Onsolen wants to be loved by loony feminists. No competent woman wants quotas. She knows exactly what everyone will suspect: that she got preferential treatment because of her genitalia.

  40. entropy

    noopy
    #2596469, posted on December 30, 2017 at 8:00 am
    Federal Liberal MP and former police officer Jason Wood, who has served in Victoria’s counter-­terror and organised crime squads, will push for Malcolm Turnbull’s support to ­urgently establish two joint crime-fighting taskforces in light of a fresh wave of violence and intimidation.

    What an absolute dill. If this gets up, every time gangs run riot it will be Feds’ fault and not VicPol

    The idea of federal police being involved in everyday policing is appalling. Is it even constitutional? Why doesn’t this idiot just demand vicpol and the the Vic government do their jobs instead of a duplication strategy with yet another layer of bureaucracy and oversight?

    Just another example of the endless demand for cre peping expansion of the federal government. After all, CANBERRA has a better view of what is going on eh?

  41. Snoopy

    It’s that time of year: New Year’s resolutions. Here’s one for the Liberal Party: finally stump up, admit you’ve got a gender problem and damn well do something to fix it.

    This is the same PVO who was called out for only having male panelists on his Sky program a couple of years ago. After some embarrassment he got his wife on.

  42. stackja

    Billy Hughes was not happy about been egged on and Qld Pol did not act so created AFP.

  43. Geriatric Mayfly

    Emily’s List springs to mind when it comes to selecting top quality wimminzes for Parliament. A filtering process no less, and the gunk in the litmus paper is what turns up on the green and red leather.

  44. Geriatric Mayfly

    gunk on the filter paper. A senior’s moment there.

  45. stackja

    Yowie in trading halt ahead of update
    Australian chocolate maker Yowie Group has placed its shares in a trading halt ahead of a company announcement.

    Petrina Berry
    Australian Associated PressDECEMBER 29, 201710:43AM
    Australian chocolate maker Yowie Group has gone into a trading halt, pending a trading update and a revised revenue forecast.

    Yowie’s shares will remain in a trading halt until January 3, or when an announcement is released to the market, if earlier.

    The Perth-based group, which sells conservation-themed toys surrounded by a chocolate shell, made a $US7.3 million ($A9.2 million) loss in the 2017 financial year due to weak sales in the United States.

    Yowie has been expanding its chocolate distribution beyond its core US market this year, moving into the New Zealand in August and Canada’s in October.

    It returned to Australian shelves in February.

    The Yowie confectionary, originally launched in Australia and New Zealand in 1995 by Cadbury and Kidcorp, was one of the most popular sweets in the domestic market until a disagreement between Cadbury and the Yowie creators led to production being halted in the early 2000s.

    The Yowie Group secured the rights to the chocolates in 2012 and launched on the ASX in 2016 after it had started selling its products in Walmart supermarkets across the US.

    Shares in Yowie last traded late Thursday afternoon, at 21 cents a security.

  46. H B Bear

    Van Wrongselen has had his vagina in a twist over women in the Lieborals for years. It is the least of their problems.

  47. Shy Ted

    I have a quota of wives. It’s one too many at the moment.

  48. stackja

    Geriatric Mayfly
    #2596490, posted on December 30, 2017 at 8:40 am
    gunk on the filter paper.

    Secretions again?

  49. calli

    Is this site running slow or do I need to drop kick my new iPad?

  50. stackja

    calli
    #2596496, posted on December 30, 2017 at 8:49 am

    My Win 7 ADSL OK.

    An easy way to speed up an iPad is to perform a weekly restart. This clears out its memory, resets any crashing apps and refreshes the device. Press and hold the Home button and the Sleep/Wake button at the same time until the iPad restarts and hold until the Apple logo appears.

  51. Delta A

    No problems here, calli.

  52. stackja

    Snoopy
    #2596487, posted on December 30, 2017 at 8:36 am

    ABC partners count?

  53. min

    Julia Gillard is one that proves they must be very careful of choosing someone on gender.

  54. entropy

    Most government departments and corporations have diversity targets of 50%. All promise to select on merit to achieve this. As that google dude observed and lost his job for it, this is not possible if the source of recruits is mostly one gender or another.

    This is why I am encouraging Miss Entropy to do engineering. Even today the proportion of female engineering students is about 30%. Most girls just aren’t interested. This means Miss Entropy’s chances of a job in that field are very, very high.

    At the moment, however, she fancies her chances as the girl that year that gets taken up by the State ballet company, to which I say, why not an engineering ballerina?

    Also, it is a curious thing that diversity advocates do not seem concerned about the almost exclusive female workforce in fields like speech pathology, dietitians and other allied health, or the controlling dominance of the sisterhood in nursing management.

  55. stackja

    min
    #2596501, posted on December 30, 2017 at 8:56 am

    KK, Joan, Anna and Carmen.

  56. calli

    Thanks guys. We have a house full of people and every single one has a device plus Netflix. The NBN is getting a towelling and I’m clearly last in the pecking order. 🙂

  57. vr

    Coalition Club must make way for women – another brainburp from the Oh so Wrongsolen – because it’s worked so well for Labor – Yeah it’s the crap barrel scraping time of year.

    Quotas don’t work. Norway imposed a quota to ensure that there were at least 30% of directors were women. Here is one of the earliest papers (in QJE) on its impact. There is a competeing paper — same finding, but different explanation for the negative result.

  58. Tintarella di Luna

    Peter van Onsolen wants to be loved by loony feminists. No competent woman wants quotas. She knows exactly what everyone will suspect: that she got preferential treatment because of her genitalia.

    Yes and haven’t those loony feminists contributed so greatly to the world – CEDAW would have to be the pinnacle of achievement and it’s been all downhill, shrieking and bellyaching ever since.

  59. entropy

    My iPad is fine. That restart advice is wrong btw. I am not even sure that you do it that way with the latest version of iOS.
    Sometimes I find I need to force close safari if things seem to hang. Double push on the home button, and all the running apps appear in their own box. Flick up the safari one to force close it.

  60. Up The Workers!

    To Min, at 8.56am:

    In that case, just back Benny Wong, and you can’t go wrong!

  61. DrBeauGan

    Quotas don’t work. Norway imposed a quota to ensure that there were at least 30% of directors were women. Here is one of the earliest papers (in QJE) on its impact. There is a competeing paper — same finding, but different explanation for the negative result.

    Surprise surprise.

  62. stackja

    entropy
    #2596508, posted on December 30, 2017 at 9:02 am
    My iPad is fine. That restart advice is wrong btw.

    Professor Google suggestion.

  63. entropy

    Yes, sounds like your router is saturated. I am thinking of buying a high performance router on top of the generic modem/router that comes with the service just to improve local network performance given the growing number of devices that a large family plus visitors require to connect to it these days.

  64. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Good epidemiologists are well aware of the limitations of their studies, and always include some recognition of these (see below). This does not invalidate the findings of mass studies but allows for some leeway in interpretation. Climate scientists have less honesty about their modelling.

    The study Mitch links above re fat and carbohydrate intake is very complex and ambitious in its cross-cultural comparative aspects. Its findings bear more on total mortality than cardiovascular mortality. However, at the extremes, dependence on too much carb can kill with a cardiovascular event whereas more fat will not. RTWT via Mitch’s link, where the study is well set out with its data and analytic methods.

    Our study is the first to our knowledge that used country-specific FFQs and nutrient databases in a large number of individuals from countries in diverse regions with varying food habits. The standardised dietary method enabled a direct comparison of nutrients and foods within each region included in the study and standardised methods to collect and adjudicate events. However, our study had some limitations. First, we used FFQs to estimate participants’ dietary intake which is not a measure of absolute intake, but is suited for classifying individuals into intake categories and is the most commonly used approach for assessing intake in epidemiological studies. Measurement error in reporting might lead to random errors that could dilute real associations between nutrients and clinical events. Second, dietary intakes were measured only at baseline, and it is possible that dietary changes might have occurred during the follow-up period. Even if major dietary changes occurred after the baseline assessment, they probably would have weakened the observed associations. Third, there is potential for social desirability bias and individuals who are health conscious might also adopt other healthy lifestyles. However, if this were the case, we would not expect to see different associations for the different outcomes. Fourth, as with any observational cohort study, observed associations might be in part due to residual confounding (eg, differences in the ability to afford fats and animal proteins, which are more expensive than carbohydrates) despite extensive adjustment for known confounding factors. Furthermore, while high-carbohydrate and low-fat diets might be a proxy for poverty or access to health care, all of our models adjusted for education and study centre (which tracks with country income and urban or rural location) and would be expected to account for differences in socioeconomic factors across intake categories. Additional analyses adjusting for other measures of socioeconomic status (household wealth or income) did not alter the results. Despite this, it is possible that high consumption of carbohydrate and low consumption of animal products might reflect lower incomes and residual confounding of our results cannot be completely excluded. We were unable to quantify separately the types of carbohydrate (refined vs whole grains) consumed. However, carbohydrate consumption in low-income and middle-income countries is mainly from refined sources. Fifth, we were unable to measure trans-fat intake which might affect our results, especially our replacement analyses. Lastly, our FFQ assessed polyunsaturated fatty acid intake mainly from foods, rather than from vegetable oils, which might have different health effects than those observed in our study.

    In conclusion, we found that a high carbohydrate intake was associated with an adverse impact on total mortality, whereas fats including saturated and unsaturated fatty acids were associated with lower risk of total mortality and stroke. We did not observe any detrimental effect of fat intakes on cardiovascular disease events. Global dietary guidelines should be reconsidered in light of the consistency of findings from the present study, with the conclusions from meta-analyses of other observational studies8, 10, 54 and the results of recent randomised controlled trials.36

    In its broad outlines, I think the study sits well with reports from Ancient Egypt, where for the working people the diet was about 95% grains, of such individuals dropping unexpectedly dead in mid-life clutching their chests.

  65. Quotas for women?

    How about quotas for alphabet people in parliament?
    They seem to be over-represented.

  66. Nick

    With IPads, a full hand swipe, upwards from the bottom, lets you swipe off apps running in the background. Clear your cache via Safari in settings, too.

  67. Geriatric Mayfly

    David Thompson’s Year in Review is a must for Cats. There you will be introduced to the miracles that Narrative Medicine will bestow on the world. Here’s a just a taste of the rigour involved in obtaining the requisite qualifications. You will walk out with a “Science” degree. Just think of that BoN et al.

    This seminar will explore the relationship between embodied borderlands and Narrative Medicine by reading (and viewing) diasporic fictions concerned with health and illness, witnessing and memory, identity and intersubjectivity, the real and the uncanny. In addition, we will examine the intersections between cultural theory, queer theory, postcolonial theory, disability theory, and critical race feminist theory to understand how these fields deepen the work of narrative medicine.

  68. Mater

    Van Wrongselen has had his vagina in a twist over women in the Lieborals for years.

    With the current collection, the Liberals would be drawing a long bow to contend that they are a meritocracy.

  69. calli

    Cleared and running like Clarke Griswald’s snow saucer!

  70. Bruce of Newcastle

    Don’t you just love activist public servants? After sitting on it for months the State Department finally releases some Weiner/Huma stuff on the Friday evening before New Year’s.

    State Department releases Huma Abedin emails found on Anthony Weiner’s laptop

    The State Department on Friday released a batch of work-related emails from the account of top Hillary Clinton aide Huma Abedin that were discovered by the FBI on a laptop belonging to Abedin’s estranged husband, Anthony Weiner, near the end of the 2016 presidential campaign.

    Some of the documents released Friday are redacted and marked “classified.”

    The conservative group Judicial Watch filed suit against the State Department for all official department emails sent or received by Abedin on a non-state.gov email address.

    “This is a major victory,” the group’s president, Tom Fitton, said in a Friday statement. “After years of hard work in federal court, Judicial Watch has forced the State Department to finally allow Americans to see these public documents.”

    Fitton added, “That these government docs were on Anthony Weiner’s laptop dramatically illustrates the need for the Justice Department to finally do a serious investigation of Hillary Clinton’s and Huma Abedin’s obvious violations of law.”

    You can bet your boots the lefty MSM will deep six this because of some excuse like “all our reporters had left the office for their holiday weekend” or something.

  71. stackja

    Bruce of Newcastle
    #2596519, posted on December 30, 2017 at 9:11 am

    I am shocked!

  72. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    At the moment, however, she fancies her chances as the girl that year that gets taken up by the State ballet company, to which I say, why not an engineering ballerina?

    An engineering ballerina sounds just fine to me. All power to Miss Entropy’s toe-shoes.
    It’s a tough life though and few are chosen although many compete. Injuries put many of action too.

  73. stackja

    Judicial Watch 🔎 Retweeted
    Tom Fitton
    ‏Verified account
    @TomFitton
    12 minutes ago
    Thanks to @JudicialWatch, we know classified info from Hillary Clinton’s email server was on Anthony Weiner’s laptop. There is an urgent need for a criminal investigation by the @RealDonaldTrump Justice Department.

  74. Boambee John

    entropy
    #2596503, posted on December 30, 2017 at 8:57 am
    Most government departments and corporations have diversity targets of 50%. All promise to select on merit to achieve this. As that google dude observed and lost his job for it, this is not possible if the source of recruits is mostly one gender or another.

    Recruitment targets should be set in a comparative manner.

    The target for the proportion of women in the ADF or police should be the same as the proportion on men in nursing or teaching.

    The target for the proportion of men in nursing or teaching should be the same as the proportion on women in the ADF or police.

    Watch the squirming from the feminazis then!

  75. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    the relationship between embodied borderlands and Narrative Medicine by reading

    Clearly we need some mental border walls against this crap as well as some physical border walls against other contemporary events. That this is justified under ‘science’ is more than ridiculous. It is not even a sensible History of Ideas, which is where such a philosophical approach to medicine might actually fit.

  76. entropy

    Lizzie, Miss Entropy is very good apparently, but I know nothing about it, just that she leads all the time in performances. While I would never say this to Miss Entropy, I would observe, however, that there is almost always someone better than you, even a large dance school is a small pond, a ballerina’s career is short, and she should not neglect her studies.

  77. PvO:

    It’s that time of year: New Year’s resolutions. Here’s one for the Liberal Party: finally stump up, admit you’ve got a gender problem and damn well do something to fix it.

    Whenever gender quotas have been raised with conservatives, the collective reason for opposing them almost always has been rooted in the principle of merit. It’s a spurious argument at best, but it’s their excuse time and time again for not taking decisive action to fix the gender imbalance among their parliamentary representatives.

    Who cares? No, really. A completely spurious problem.

  78. I am thinking of buying a high performance router on top of the generic modem/router that comes with the service just to improve local network performance

    Is this possible? The kids have the standard Telstra NBN issued kit in the main house. The wireless signal reaches us okay in the granny flat, but when #1 son, DiL, plus grandkids are all online, we slow to a crawl too. Plus we regularly get bumped off, and only a reboot of the router will get us back on.

    Is there a simple technical solution? A Rolls Royce router perhaps?

  79. DrBeauGan

    It’s a spurious argument at best,

    It’s a damned good argument.

  80. vr

    Recruitment targets should be set in a comparative manner.

    Here is the results of a study done on “blind” recruiting process in the Australian Public Service. It is very interesting. It don’t think it received much press.
    Going blind to see more clearly

  81. Is there a simple technical solution? A Rolls Royce router perhaps?

    You could try a WiFi extender.

  82. DrBeauGan

    VR, the actual study isn’t there.

  83. Entropy prompts the idea – quotas for engineers in parliament?

  84. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    My New Year’s Resolution is Carpe Diem.
    Make the most of every day. Seize the initiative.
    I can’t think of anything better, and less specific. 😀

  85. Baldrick

    What are the odds?

    Baldrick
    #2587391, posted on December 18, 2017 at 12:31 pm

    Rae
    #2587251, posted on December 18, 2017 at 10:38 am

    Fuck off Stalker Boy

    _____

    Elizabeth @libby_zee
    Tears of joy, Stalker Boy. We are not at all surprised. Just don’t get your copy of Allboy too soggy.
    5:14 PM · Dec 29, 2017

  86. vr

    DrBeauGan — Here it is.

    Needed to ignore the “page not found”.

  87. entropy

    The modem/routers that come with an internet package are not high performance. They aren’t going to give you a great router for free. It is not usually the modem part, but the router part that diastributes the data that is usually the limitation (apart from the bandwidth of the connection you pay for of course).
    Included modem/routers typically can’t connect a large number of devices, and wifi range from one end of the house to an other is not great. You can overcome this to an extent with a cheap wifi extender, but if you have a gamer kid they will tell you this is unsatisfactory because of lag apparently.
    A high quality router capable of serving a large number of clients could easily cost $300. My BiL recommends Unifi routers, although as they are designed for commercial purposes I think they are a bit complex to set up for home use, and nighthawks have been very popular. I am thinking of the Orbi series from netgear.

  88. Mater

    From the Abstract of vr’s links:

    Overall, the results indicate the need for caution when moving towards ’blind’ recruitment processes in the APS, as de-identification may frustrate efforts aimed at promoting diversity.

    Well, there you go.

  89. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Oh, and the usual resolution, a standing feature of every New Year.
    Lose a couple of kilos. Hairy is not in favour as that may reduce enjoyably held assets.
    He does not approve of my desire to conform to the dictates of whoopsie fashion designers.

    And that’s it for soft porn from me this morning. 🙂

  90. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Don’t ask me what’s going on at Twitter. I don’t go there. Never have, never will.

  91. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    de-identification may frustrate efforts aimed at promoting diversity.

    hahaha. Selection may be made then on actual merit?

  92. DrBeauGan

    VR, I watched the video. It was utterly damning. It told us that there is bias in the selection process, but it’s the opposite way around to what they wanted. They hoped to show there was unconscious bias against women and minorities and discovered that there is bias in favour of both.

    I don’t find this surprising, the people who did the study obviously want diversity even when it results in inferior people being selected. They showed selection panels do too.

  93. BrettW

    How come equality only works in traditional male jobs such as police, ADF etc ? Great efforts are being made to increase female %ages there. However when do we hear about increasing male %ages in teaching!, civil service and nursing etc. If female applicants are being given preference for police recruitment shouldn’t males be given preference for nursing jobs ? How come the mainly female staffed Diversity Council, Workplace Gender Equality Agency etc never mention the areas where males are under represented ?

    It’s discrimination !

  94. Mark A

    entropy
    #2596512, posted on December 30, 2017 at 9:05 am

    Yes, sounds like your router is saturated. I am thinking of buying a high performance router on top of the generic modem/router that comes with the service just to improve local network performance given the growing number of devices that a large family plus visitors require to connect to it these days.

    You can have a better router connected but not on top of the existing one, only one router / IP line
    It won’t solve congestion though, but it will have a farther wifi reach.

  95. It’s discrimination !

    In my time in the APS (1980’s) they called it “affirmative action”. It was government policy.

  96. Nick

    Some routers benefit from a software update too.

  97. Dave in Marybrook

    Stackja-
    Yowie creator was Bryce Courtenay, I believe? This incarnation started as some cartoony kids’ books from the pint-sized literary lothario, chocs hopped on the bandwagon from there.

  98. vr

    DrBeauGan — I know the (gender-performance) literature reasonably well. There evidence doesn’t find evidence to support the narrative the press and policy makers push. They all forget the issue of self-selection.

  99. stackja

    Dave in Marybrook
    #2596562, posted on December 30, 2017 at 10:00 am

    Wrong business model?

  100. entropy

    Yes Mark, I meant I would continue to use the packaged modem/router as a modem, and use a purchased, dedicated router as the Ethernet/wifi router.

  101. Just Interested

    Federal Liberal MP and former police officer Jason Wood, who has served in Victoria’s counter-­terror and organised crime squads, will push for Malcolm Turnbull’s support to ­urgently establish two joint crime-fighting taskforces in light of a fresh wave of violence and intimidation.

    What an absolute dill. If this gets up, every time gangs run riot it will be Feds’ fault and not VicPol

    The idea of federal police being involved in everyday policing is appalling. Is it even constitutional? Why doesn’t this idiot just demand vicpol and the the Vic government do their jobs instead of a duplication strategy with yet another layer of bureaucracy and oversight?

    Just another example of the endless demand for cre peping expansion of the federal government. After all, CANBERRA has a better view of what is going on eh?

    I guess that’s what you do when you are a former copper, as he is.

    However, the better thing for him to do is to actually focus on what the Feds to have responsibility for, which is immigration – who they bring in, and what happens on immediate resettlement……which of course will never happen.

    This of course leaves the States to clean up the law and order issues/provide community services etc……and when it’s Dan the Man doing the cleaning up………lucky Victoria.

  102. cohenite

    Judicial Watch 🔎 Retweeted
    Tom Fitton
    ‏Verified account
    @TomFitton
    12 minutes ago
    Thanks to @JudicialWatch, we know classified info from Hillary Clinton’s email server was on Anthony Weiner’s laptop. There is an urgent need for a criminal investigation by the @RealDonaldTrump Justice Department.

    Astounding really that Hillary is still stumbling around screeching like a sex-starved, obese ferret. What she is now proved to have done is a strict liability offence: carelessness, intent, spilt coffee, or dogs eating homework excuses are irrelevant. Comey plainly did wrong in not prosecuting her although even that was a cock-up since saying no charges would be laid against the old retrobate was not in his purview.

    The content of the emails is another thing. Benghazi, for me, is the smoker for nailing hilliary and the black dude.

  103. stackja

    memoryvault
    #2596559, posted on December 30, 2017 at 9:58 am
    It’s discrimination !

    In my time in the APS (1980’s) they called it “affirmative action”. It was government policy.

    Once discrimination meant recognition and understanding of the difference between one thing and another.

  104. Bad Samaritan

    vr (9.37am) Despite only very very rarely swearing in posts, that video leads me to make an exception. Leftists truly are fuckwits.

  105. FWIW. Router performance under load is a function of a. hardware and b. software.
    If you want performance, Start by buying something with a meaty CPU and chipset. This means spending money!
    The modem part of things (simples) is almost entirely dependent on the quality of the hardware. Not usually a problem.
    WiFi chipsets vary (a lot) in speed and functionality. You don’t necessarily get what you pay for.
    For most homes, WiFi is about antenna, antenna and antenna.

  106. Dave in Marybrook

    I think the business model was reasonable-
    create Yowies on the back of aboriginal/urban legends
    collect all the books
    collect all the chocs, with stickers
    part proceeds go to environmental things
    extend range to frozen ice confectionery on a stick.
    Probably got risky when they sought a bigger partner to extend the distribution, even to the goldmine of the U.S.

  107. stackja

    Dave in Marybrook
    #2596574, posted on December 30, 2017 at 10:14 am

    Yes!

  108. Dave in Marybrook

    Ah well, good on ’em for giving it a shake. If you’re making processed food with an extended shelf life, why not dream big?
    I wonder what their status is in regards to modern concerns keeping child labour out of the chain, rainforest conservation, palm oil sourcing, trans fats… etc

  109. lotocoti

    Quotas let merit shine

    Probably, but not perhaps in the manner von Wrongsolen would like.

  110. Tintarella di Luna

    Abolish the Australian Human Rights Commission and return us to the Enlightment’s positive values – article by Brendan O’Neill published 3 May 2014 in the Oz-

    IMAGINE if there were a women’s rights organisation that said women should stay in the kitchen and leave the world of work to men. Or a gay rights group that argued homosexuality was sinful. We would think that was weird, right?
    Well, it is no more weird than having a human rights commission that has devoted itself not to the expansion of freedom but to the strangling of it, to the straitjacketing of liberty in the name of protecting people from offence and defending public morals.

    Australia’s Human Rights Commission must be one of the worst cases of Orwellian doublespeak in the modern world. It has the word rights in its name yet in practice this vast bureaucratic outfit that is funded by government to the tune of $25 million a year does far more to thwart freedom than it does to promote it.

    Slyly misused political lingo is used “to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable”, George Orwell said in 1946. Today, the language of liberty has been twisted by the HRC to make illiberal things sound liberal, ­authoritarianism seem just and tyranny appear enlightened.

    Anyone with a reasonable grasp of the English language might expect an organisation such as the HRC to defend something such as freedom of speech, the most important of all rights.

    This is the right on which every other right we enjoy is built. Without the freedom to speak our minds, publish our ideas and hawk our ideologies, everything from the right to vote to artistic rights becomes meaningless, ­impossible even.

    So does this group of well-paid, well-fed rights defenders defend the foundational right of people to say what lurks in our minds and hearts? Nope. Its commissioners seem to break out in hives when freedom of speech is mentioned. They’re forever reminding folk their right to free speech can be rescinded if they say anything too outrageous or risky or threatening to public morals.

    So in the debate about section 18C, in this key ideological clash over whether the state should have the authority to tell individuals what they can think and say, most of the HRC has come down on the side of the state control rather than the individual liberty.

    Race Discrimination Commissioner Tim Soutphommasane says we have to keep 18C because racist speech can “damage our cohesion as a multicultural society”. He defends the 2011 court ruling against journalist Andrew Bolt for using “inflammatory and provocative language” in his columns about fair-skinned Abori­gines.

    This is a classic argument for censorship. The paternalistic notion that certain ideas must be hidden from view because they have the power to rattle society — or “damage social cohesion”, as Soutphommasane prefers — has fuelled every act of censorship, from Torquemada sil­encing morality-corrupting heretics during the Spanish Inquisition to British censors ban­ning Lady Chatterley’s Lover on the basis that it could unleash dangerous sexual impulses and harm family life. Arguing prejudiced speech must be quashed to preserve soc­ial harmony may sound PC, but it’s the bastard ideological offspring of the thirst for social control and fear of the unpredictable public that have motivated every censor.

    Soutphommasane’s defence of state censorship isn’t a case of one HRC person losing the plot and forgetting that he is supposed to be defending rights, not celebrating their destruction. The HRC ­itself is forever reminding people that freedom of speech is conditional and can be restricted if the authorities think your utterances are bad or corrupting.

    Its website says: “Everyone shall have the right to hold ­opinions without interference.” Which sounds nice. But then it says this right may be “subject to certain restrictions”, including the need to uphold “the rights or reputations of others” and to protect “national security or public order or public health or morals”.

    So the HRC gives Australians freedom of speech with one hand and takes it away with the other. Codifying the state’s right to ­­res­trict speech that harms someone’s reputation or just “public morals” is to give officialdom carte blanche to clamp down on anything from stingingly critical political invective to porn, outrageous art or anything that may crash against what our betters ­decree to be the public morality.

    The HRC also demonstrated its innate hostility to freedom of speech when in 2012 it backed Julia Gillard’s ill-fated Human Rights and Anti-Discrimination Bill, which would have forbidden people from “engaging in any conduct which offends, humiliates, intimidates, insults or ridicules another person on the basis of (their attributes)”.

    It was basically a proposal to outlaw offensiveness, to strangle strong views, to make ridicule ­illegal. That the HRC supported such a shocker showed just how allergic it was to the idea of free speech and open, honest, rowdy public debate.

    The problem here is not with the individuals who make up the HRC (though they do seem a ­miserabilist, freedom-fearing lot)but the whole idea of human rights. Human rights, introduced after World War II, are different from the democratic rights that were established in the more enlightened, hopeful period of the late 18th century. Where those democratic rights were about restraining the state, about telling the state what it should never do, human rights are more concerned with reining in individuals and allegedly bad habits and backward behaviour.

    Consider the US bill of rights, written in 1789. It outlines, beautifully, what “congress shall not do”: it shall not pass any law prohibiting freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of religion or the right to protest.

    Fast forward 150 years to the postwar human rights period and we have new international treaties that are long and turgid rather than short and sweet, and that tell individ­uals rather than states what they mustn’t do.

    So the European Convention on Human Rights, from which so much human rights law is born, says freedom of speech may be “subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law … in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, (and) for the protection of the reputation or the rights of others”.

    If you are still awake after reading that, consider what is being said here: that individuals must effectively obey the state if they wish to continue enjoying certain rights.

    Where the era of democratic rights was concerned with ­limiting the power of the state, the era of human rights empowers the state, allowing it to judge what we may say, when we may say it and even, if the case of Bolt is anything to go by, the tone in which we can say stuff.

    Democratic rights emerged from a great positive moment in human history, from the Enlightenment, when trust in mankind was in the ascendancy. Human rights, by contrast, came out of the darkest moment — the Holocaust — and thus have a tendency to emphasise man’s destructiveness, his threat to his fellow citizen and his apparent need to be controlled by the state for the good of “social cohesion”.

    Thus we end up with the HRC, an organisation that uses the ­language of rights to denigrate rights and that instinctively views people as the potential destabil­isers of society and morality.

    If you want more freedom in Australia, if you want your rights to mean something, then there’s an important first step to take: to abolish the Human Rights Commission.

    Brendan O’Neill is editor of Spiked Online.

  111. stackja
    #2596571, posted on December 30, 2017 at 10:06 am

    Once discrimination meant recognition and understanding of the difference between one thing and another.

    Stackja, my paternal grandfather was so respected in his community that there are two headstones on his grave. One by the family, and one by the local community. The community one describes him as “a most discriminating man”.

    Today that would be considered a legally actionable insult.

  112. Geriatric Mayfly

    While we are dwelling on hi-tech, perhaps someone can advise on who does one contact. The Provider or NBN? I use the internet connection (fixed wireless) to listen to internet radio. The latter is connected to the router by cable. No other users. The signal during the day is fine, then at about 1830 comes the first drop-out and these increase in number as the evening moves into 1900 and beyond. They often become so frequent, with intervals of only a few seconds, that sheer annoyance and frustration means the end of any further listening. Does this whole show run on hamster power I wonder.

  113. stackja

    Dave in Marybrook
    #2596577, posted on December 30, 2017 at 10:20 am

    Yowie confectionery is a character-moulded, 28 grms/1 ounce chocolate inclusion product. The Yowie chocolate is foil wrapped with one of six vibrant Yowie character foils designed specifically for strong retail shelf presence and instore impact. The Yowie chocolate encloses a Yowie character-shaped capsule with a limited-edition natural replica animal, or Yowie playmate, inside. Each carefully crafted, scientifically accurate Yowie playmate comes complete with a Yowie information leaflet, profiling the animal, its habitat, food sources, and threats to the animal and its environment. Each animal’s conservation status is colour coded as critically endangered, endangered, vulnerable, near threatened or not threatened.

  114. jupes

    The target for the proportion of women in the ADF or police should be the same as the proportion on men in nursing or teaching.

    No. The target for the proportion of women in the ADF should be zero.

  115. feelthebern

    Pretty funny how whole parts of news bulletins are devoted to analysing Trump tweets, sometimes 18 after the fact.
    Shows the uselessness of the msm.
    Follow the guy, see what he sees immediately.
    Or wait almost a day to see what morons think what a Trump tweet “really” means.

  116. Caveman

    Aust Post is a cafe / restaurant ? They just do lunch.

  117. stackja

    Tintarella di Luna
    #2596576, posted on December 30, 2017 at 10:17 am
    This Australia Post recruitment ad is a corker

    I didn’t notice any postie on a bike. Did I blink?

  118. Tom

    This Australia Post recruitment ad is a corker.

    There couldn’t be a better commercial for Trump’s barnstorming US economy: a fat bloated government monopoly from the 1950s parading zombie graduates parroting workplace PC that makes Australia the most uncompetitive economy in the world.

  119. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    THE NATION
    Flinders Street attack victim Antonios Crocaris dies in hospital

    The Australian
    6:23AM December 30, 2017

    Pia Akerman
    Reporter
    Melbourne
    @pia_akerman

    A man hit by a car which sped through a pedestrian crossing on Melbourne’s Flinders Street has died in hospital.

    Antonios (Anton) Crocaris, 83, was one of 20 people injured when Saeed Noori allegedly drove deliberately through the crossing last week.

    Police revealed this morning that Mr Crocaris had died in hospital last night as a result of the alleged attack.

    “Our father Anton had his life cruelly taken away in a senseless act of violence,” Mr Crocaris’ family said in a statement.

    “These circumstances are devastating to our family. Dad is simply irreplaceable and we will never fully recover from this loss.

    “He was a beloved husband of Elizabeth (dec), adored father of Freda, Tony and Bill, and cherished grandfather of Verity, Lysander and Jackson.”

    From the Oz. One count of murder…

  120. nilk

    Stack, at the beginning there’s a fellow with a bike heading towards the bike cage to lock it up. I gave up watching about halfway through. It’s beyond cringe-inducing. Was any work conducted at all that you could see? Or was it just posing for the camera?

  121. C.L.

    No. The target for the proportion of women in the ADF should be zero.

    I don’t have any objection to women in medical roles, like the hero nurses of WWI & II who risked their lives bringing their feminine genius to the succour of the wounded. In all active roles, they should be banned, of course.

  122. Bruce of Newcastle

    Each animal’s conservation status is colour coded as critically endangered, endangered, vulnerable, near threatened or not threatened.

    Hehe, you can immediately see why they’re losing money.

    How can you ask a Green to eat an endangered animal?
    And righties, when faced with this sort of sloppy propaganda would immediately throw up.
    Neither outcome is conducive to higher sales.

  123. stackja

    Biggest movie hits and flops of 2017
    Dave McNary, Reuters
    9 minutes ago
    A look at some of the winners and losers at the box office in 2017:

    The biggest successes:

    WONDER WOMAN

    Global box office: $US821 million ($A1.1 billion)

    Production budget: $US120 million ($A168 million)

    The collaboration between Gal Gadot and director Patty Jenkins provided a fresh, light-hearted look at the superhero genre and became the one unqualified success in Warner Bros-DC Entertainment’s efforts to compete with the Marvel-Disney universe. It has already set Wonder Woman 2 for November 2, 2019.

    GIRLS TRIP

    Global box office: $US138 million ($A193 million)

    Production budget: $US19 million ($A27 million)

    Universal’s raucous and joyous Girls Trip reinvigorated the road-trip genre and became a serious breakout hit as an R-rated comedy – an area which had seen plenty of stumbles in recent years, with nothing resembling a major adult comedy success since Amy Schumer’s Trainwreck and Melissa McCarthy’s Spy two years earlier.

    WONDER

    Global box office: $US155 million ($A217 million) (still in theatres)

    Production budget: $US20 million ($A28 million)

    Perhaps the biggest surprise of the year, the Jacob Tremblay tearjerker opened on Nove,mber 17-19 with Lionsgate expecting a $US9 million ($A13 million) debut – and then took in $US27.6 million ($A38.6 million). Audiences embraced the film’s message of kindness and inclusion following an extensive social media campaign.

    IT

    Global box office: $US695 million ($A973 million)

    Production cost: $US35 million ($A49 million)

    “It” is the highest-grossing horror film ever and is regarded as one of the best Stephen King movie adaptations. Warner Bros and New Line have already scheduled It: Chapter 2 for September 6, 2019.

    BEAUTY AND THE BEAST

    Global box office: $US1.26 billion ($A1.76 billion)

    Production cost: $US160 million ($A224 million)

    Beauty and the Beast is the best example of why Disney continues to draw on its massive library of successful animated properties and transform them in to live-action features. It’s also a casting triumph with Emma Watson establishing herself as a major star after being Hermione Granger in the eight Harry Potter movies.

    STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI

    Global box office: $US536 million ($A750 million) (still playing)

    Production cost: $US250 million ($A350 million)

    The Last Jedi notched the second-highest US opening weekend and the fifth-highest globally – even before a China release. It’s the ninth film in the iconic franchise, which shows no signs of running out of steam any time soon, thanks to a marketing campaign that effectively tapped into the massive fan base. Five months from now, Disney-Lucasfilm will again test fans’ Force fervor with the Han Solo spinoff on May 25 .

    The biggest flops:

    MONSTER TRUCKS

    Global box office: $US64 million ($A90 million)

    Production cost: $US125 million ($A175 million)

    In September, 2016, Viacom announced that it was taking “a programing impairment charge” of $US115 million ($A161 million) for losses from this Paramount live-action CGI adventure – four months before it even opened the movie, which had originally been set to open in 2015. Paramount had announced the film in 2013 as the launch of a franchise.

    KING ARTHUR: LEGEND OF THE SWORD

    Global box office: $US148 million ($A207 million)

    Production budget: $US175 million ($A245 million)

    Warner Bros had been attempting to develop a King Arthur project for many years – first as an Excalibur remake and then as a possible six-film franchise set in the Arthurian world. Shooting began in 2015 with Charlie Hunnam starring but the original release date of July 22, 2016, was then delayed four times. King Arthur: Legend of the Sword drew only $US39 million ($A55 million) in the US and international markets provided little aid.

    VALERIAN AND THE CITY OF A THOUSAND PLANETS

    Global box office: $US225 million ($A315 million)

    Production budget: $US180 million ($A252 million)

    Luc Besson’s ambitious Valerian is the most expensive independently financed movie in history. Rival studios and insiders estimated the film needed to make at least $US400 million ($A560 million) worldwide to climb into the black and justify a sequel.

    THE DARK TOWER

    Global box office: $US111 million ($A155 million)

    Production cost: $US60 million ($A84 million)

    The science fantasy western, based on Stephen King’s novel series, had been in development for a decade, first with J.J. Abrams, then with Ron Howard and finally with Nicolaj Arcel in multiple attempts to turn King’s sprawling narrative into a conventional movie. Critics derided The Dark Tower for being difficult to understand.

    GEOSTORM

    Global box office: $US207 million ($A290 million)

    Production cost: $US120 million ($A168 million)

    When a film’s release date is delayed four times, it’s a red flag for moviegoers – especially since the delays resulted in the film being opened, unfortunately, on the heels of massive hurricanes hitting Texas, Florida and Puerto Rico. The premise of seeing the world devastated by a series of weather-related disasters probably didn’t seem like that much fun to moviegoers when parts of the world were actually being devastated by a series of weather-related disasters.

  124. Mater

    Overall, the results indicate the need for caution when moving towards ’blind’ recruitment processes in the APS, as de-identification may frustrate efforts aimed at promoting diversity.

    I think a reasonable translation is:

    Overall, the results indicate the need for caution when moving towards equality in the recruitment processes in the APS, as it may frustrate efforts aimed at promoting diversity.

    This study is my new standard response to anyone running the equality line in workplaces.

  125. Rae

    We have a house full of people and every single one has a device plus Netflix. The NBN is getting a towelling

    That’s not at all surprising. You could ask the ones using your wifi on their mobile phones to turn it off and rely on their provider’s internet service instead.

  126. Uh oh

    Tintarella di Luna
    #2596576, posted on December 30, 2017 at 10:17 am
    This Australia Post recruitment ad is a corker

    Awesome.

  127. Thus we end up with the HRC, an organisation that uses the ­language of rights to denigrate rights and that instinctively views people as the potential destabil­isers of society and morality.

    If you want more freedom in Australia, if you want your rights to mean something, then there’s an important first step to take: to abolish the Human Rights Commission.

    Yea Mr. O’Neill

  128. Geriatric Mayfly

    Here’s something that needs every encouragement. No word yet from the Performing Stick Insect.

    Anti-government demonstrations that began in Iran on Thursday have now spread to several major cities. Large numbers reportedly turned out in Rasht, in the north, and Kermanshah, in the west, with smaller protests in Isfahan, Hamadan and elsewhere. The protests began against rising prices but have spiralled into a general outcry against clerical rule and government policies. BBC

  129. C.L.

    The HRC is actuated by three hatreds:

    Hatred of whites.
    Hatred of men.
    Hatred of Christianity.

  130. They [dropouts] often become so frequent, with intervals of only a few seconds

    Don’t know about the NBN, but with Telstra and Optus the line is “it’s just a few seconds” our uptime is 9x.9%

    Since the dawning of the Internet, AU carriers have never been able to provide a real continuity of service*.

  131. Rohan

    Look into getting a Ubiquiti router and separate wifi access point. It takes a bit to configure, so look into that before you purchase. Plenty of help online. Their UniFi range requires you to install a software controller on a pc to configure but it’s not required to run once configured. It will set you back about $240-260.

    It is serious bang for the buck. Allows wifi tuning that is seriously impressive.

  132. Baldrick

    Bad Samaritan
    #2596572, posted on December 30, 2017 at 10:11 am
    vr (9.37am) Despite only very very rarely swearing in posts, that video leads me to make an exception. Leftists truly are fuckwits.

    Catallaxy FactCheck: True

  133. Rae

    In my time in the APS (1980’s) they called it “affirmative action”. It was government policy.

    Affirmative Action = selection on merit, but where a male and a female have equal merit the female gets the job.

  134. Baldrick

    Rae
    #2596626, posted on December 30, 2017 at 11:12 am

    Fuck off Haidee Mc

  135. stackja

    Reuters Top News
    ‏Verified account
    @Reuters
    4 minutes ago
    Canada scales back New Year’s Eve party due to extreme cold http://reut.rs/2Cn6CRJ

  136. egg_

    Affirmative Action = selection on merit, but where a male and a female have equal merit the female gets the job.

    Au contraire, it was explained as a huge pendulum swing making up for the past – who’s to say no one ‘lent on the scales’ to assist the femme’s alleged competency?

  137. Mike of Marion

    Keep hammering away DJT at the pretenders

    NE corner of USA

  138. egg_

    Bollards on all roads. No cars!

    Deployable bollard drones – Sydney’s ahead of the curve with trucks.

  139. Jo Smyth

    My 10 year old granddaughter is entering the phase of wanting to be a vegetarian (it’s cruel to kill animals you see). I need some good reasons to convince her this is not a good idea. Please help.

  140. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    a fat bloated government monopoly from the 1950s parading zombie graduates parroting workplace PC that makes Australia the most uncompetitive economy in the world.

    That’s a full on, cool, awesome comment, Tom.

    Sadly, that’s the workplace mode of a lot of our large enterprises. I know grad people from PWC who use the ‘cool, awesome’ lingo. They lose a bit of it as they progress up the ladder, although it is still an essential tool to have when dealing with the grads in your team. It’s a fad which will pass, the cultural ticket to the coffee-klatch of Gen Y. Sadly, the overblown groups working on ‘making the future happen’ won’t go away as readily. Basically, job creation programs, if not in the public sector then living high on the hog of government largesse in outsourcing unnecessary work to ‘consultancies’.

    All industries have this sort of redundancy in employees though. Even years ago, when I worked in advertising writing copy, I could get a week’s work done in a day if I had it in advance, easily, and spend the rest of the time shopping and chatting or reading surreptitiously, pretending it was ‘research’. A lot of the skill in being an ‘acceptable’ employee, I quickly realized, was in getting on with the people around me, including clients, spending a lot of time amusing them and being amused by them.

    Plus ca change, it seems, in these ‘tertiary’ industries, and also in the ‘smokos’, ‘toilet times’ and ‘go slows’ of other less exalted places I have worked during my very early years. And don’t get me started on academia; the acme of such jobs, the equivalent today of what in Jane Austin’s day a clergy preferment offered. That said, Bill Bryson points out in his book ‘At Home’ that much of the C18th and C19th advancement in learning emerged from the studies of bored parsons.

  141. Affirmative Action = selection on merit, but where a male and a female have equal merit the female gets the job.

    Mate, I was there. Affirmative action meant – “if you’re a white bloke, don’t even bother applying”.
    Order of promotion was
    (1) – Female
    (2) – Aboriginal
    (3) – Poofter
    (4) – Non-English speaking background (but not Asian)
    (5) – Re-advertise.

  142. Top Ender

    How come the mainly female staffed Diversity Council, Workplace Gender Equality Agency etc never mention the areas where males are under represented ?

    I demand that 50% of prisoners must be female.

    Actually, that 10% be homosexual.

    1% trannie.

    Etc etc.

    You know this makes sense.

  143. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    My 10 year old granddaughter is entering the phase of wanting to be a vegetarian (it’s cruel to kill animals you see). I need some good reasons to convince her this is not a good idea. Please help.

    My eldest son, at about twelve, went through a stage of vegetarianism because cruelty to dumb beasts etc. Trouble was, he disliked most vegetables intensely. He lived for a short period on tinned vegetarian sausages while we ate the deliciously real ones. One day, he just gave way, and ate his brother’s leftovers. He never looked back.

  144. stackja

    Sir Richard Starkey, MBE, known professionally as Ringo Starr, is an English drummer, singer, songwriter and actor who gained worldwide fame as the drummer for the Beatles. Wikipedia

    Best was never directly told, by anybody involved in his sacking, exactly why he was dismissed; the only reason Epstein stated to him was, “The lads don’t want you in the group any more”.[42] Epstein subsequently claimed in his autobiography that Lennon, McCartney and Harrison thought that Best was “too conventional to be a Beatle” and added that “though he was friendly with John, he was not liked by George and Paul”.[66] It has been documented, notably in Cynthia Lennon’s book, John, that while Lennon, McCartney and Harrison usually spent their offstage time together in Hamburg and Liverpool, writing songs or socialising, Best generally went off alone. This left Best on the outside, as he was not privy to many of the group’s experiences, references, and in-jokes.[87]

  145. Geriatric Mayfly

    I demand that 50% of prisoners must be female.

    How I dream of the return of the Nightsoilperson aka. Shit Carter. The wimminses would be demanding the right to lug those cans, so that white male privilege doesn’t come to dominate the profession.

  146. Baldrick

    Jo Smyth
    #2596639, posted on December 30, 2017 at 11:23 am
    My 10 year old granddaughter is entering the phase of wanting to be a vegetarian (it’s cruel to kill animals you see). I need some good reasons to convince her this is not a good idea. Please help.

    Put her on a very bland vegan diet cutting out all animal based products, dairy, eggs, etc.
    The problem should resolve itself within a few weeks.

  147. I demand that 50% of prisoners must be female.

    Don’t forget survival rates, Top Ender. Women are disproportionately over-represented in the 75+ age group. We need some serious culling at the top end to even things up.

  148. egg_

    a fat bloated government monopoly from the 1950s parading zombie graduates parroting workplace PC that makes Australia the most uncompetitive economy in the world.

    Australian Business Management in a nutshell – dinosaur senior management courting 30-something femme sharks. Tards.

  149. egg_

    We need some serious culling at the top end to even things up.

    Spike Earl Grey tea – that’ll take out old wymminses and faggots in one hit.
    /NADT

  150. Boambee John

    BrettW
    #2596557, posted on December 30, 2017 at 9:53 am
    How come equality only works in traditional male jobs such as police, ADF etc ? Great efforts are being made to increase female %ages there. However when do we hear about increasing male %ages in teaching!, civil service and nursing etc. If female applicants are being given preference for police recruitment shouldn’t males be given preference for nursing jobs ? How come the mainly female staffed Diversity Council, Workplace Gender Equality Agency etc never mention the areas where males are under represented ?

    It’s discrimination !

    This is not about equalidie or its mate diversidie.

    It is about entrenching specific groups in power. Hint, pale, stale, males are not among those selected groups!

  151. Top Ender

    Former Beatles drummer Ringo Starr has been knighted in the Queen’s New Year’s honours list, along with Bee Gees singer Barry Gibb

    Given that Barry is the only Bee Gee left, I suppose that gives greater impetus to their song Staying Alive….

    Snare drum rim shot please!

  152. egg_

    How I dream of the return of the Nightsoilperson aka. Shit Carter. The wimminses would be demanding the right to lug those cans, so that white male privilege doesn’t come to dominate the profession.

    I’ll bet female plumbers are rare for that very reason.

  153. Joe

    Au contraire, it was explained as a huge pendulum swing making up for the past …

    Followed by the pendulum swinging back to the past. Hastened by the idiots who take every opportunity to demonise the very people that know how to make the modern world work. Good Luck With That!

  154. rickw

    Put her on a very bland vegan diet cutting out all animal based products, dairy, eggs, etc.
    The problem should resolve itself within a few weeks.

    Possibly resolved within 24 hours! Particularly if everyone else is chowing down on those delicious animals!

  155. stackja

    egg_
    #2596665, posted on December 30, 2017 at 11:45 am

    Plumbers usually just wear shorts and boots when working.

  156. Baldrick

    Possibly resolved within 24 hours! Particularly if everyone else is chowing down on those delicious animals!

    Chocolate ice-cream and pavlova anyone?
    Sorry love, you’ve decided to go vegan but I’ve made you some delicious oats instead.

  157. rickw

    The idea of federal police being involved in everyday policing is appalling.

    In my experience AFP are even less capable than vicpol, particularly at everyday policing.

  158. Mike of Marion

    Came in overnight

    The Polish Youth at it again – snazzy bit of Music – enjoy

  159. Joe

    If you don’t eat your meat. You can’t have any pudding!
    You can’t have any pudding if you don’t eat your meat!

  160. Zatara

    Affirmative Action, hiring targets, and quotas = Apartheid

    What else could you call a system or procedure which treats people differently under the law based on race, gender, or any other characteristic not under their control?

    The left doesn’t own copyright on the word and Alinsky #4 applies – “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.”

  161. Boambee John

    Jupes at 1045

    No. The target for the proportion of women in the ADF should be zero.

    Two points. First, there are plenty of ADF jobs that can be oerformed quite well by women, releasing men for more active duties. Second, given the low proportions on men in nursing and teaching, I suspect that the comparative approach, taking account of Point 1, would demand more men in nursing and teaching.

  162. Fergus

    Just lurk now sometimes. Mainlining chemo.
    But angry. Victoriastan enabling Skaf type Skippy hunting. Our “leaders” are our traitors!
    http://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/crime/stabbed-teenagers-say-they-were-targeted-for-being-aussie/news- story/d57758863020087bfd5d7d7fce093437?utm_source=outbrain&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=National_Mobile

  163. Delta A

    Jo, it’s a common problem with children that age and it’s initiated at school where teachers push the poor-helpless-animal line along with other social justice issues.

    Baldrick at 11.38 am has the answer.

  164. Joe

    There should not even be a AFP. Presumably they are there to police crimes against Australia. Such crimes are an attack by foreigners and as such should be handled by the Army or Navy. Domestic attacks against Australia are treason and should also be handled by the Army.

  165. Eyrie

    So the Iranians are protesting against “clerical rule”. That is what we have in Australia. We are ruled by jumped up clerks in the public service.

  166. In my experience AFP are even less capable than vicpol, …

    Time for a quick pol.

    The most corrupt police force –

    ☐ Vicpol
    ☐ AFP

  167. stackja

    Joe
    #2596680, posted on December 30, 2017 at 12:01 pm

    My earlier comment: Billy Hughes was not happy about been egged on and Qld Pol did not act so created AFP.

  168. C.L.

    My 10 year old granddaughter is entering the phase of wanting to be a vegetarian (it’s cruel to kill animals you see). I need some good reasons to convince her this is not a good idea. Please help.

    One word: bacon. Get her hooked.

  169. Top Ender

    The AFP have two branches: one which polices airports and the ACT – the latter as a standard police force – and the other a plainclothes branch which does internal “Commonwealth” policing; e.g.: works with the state police forces and so on in relation to transnational threats such as smuggling drugs and weapons into Oz.

    They have no capacity to put together a force to be a sort of national flying squad to go and help out state and territory police forces in their day to day roles.

    In fact, they’d be more than a hindrance to those organisations as they would not know how their internal comms systems work; would not know the state laws, and so on.

    There would have to be research done into what swearing in of the officers would be necessary; or would their commonwealth powers suffice; who would pay for their accommodation; fuel etc etc.

    In short a silly suggestion probably designed to take attention off Premier Andrews and his incompetence.

  170. C.L.

    Victoria Police is the most corrupt.
    The Victorian judiciary is the most corrupt.
    The Victorian government is the most corrupt.
    Victoria is a toilet.

  171. Bruce of Newcastle

    My 10 year old granddaughter is entering the phase of wanting to be a vegetarian (it’s cruel to kill animals you see).

    Sounds like she’s been getting Green propaganda at school.

    I’d give her a red pill blue pill choice.

    The red pill you explain that not everything that you hear in school is the truth, which is why we cook and eat animals and birds, because our bodies are designed to eat like that.

    The blue pill choice is to do everything the Greens want: no cooking because that is bad for climate change, no animal products. So the family sits down to a nice roast dinner while she has cold raw broccoli and salad. And explain that is the religion she is taking on.

  172. Oh come on

    Has anyone lingered by the vegan section in your supermarket fridge? Featuring pseudo-meat that looks like dried up turds, and that’s far from the end of the horror show. I wouldn’t even call it food.

  173. C.L.

    Another thing: tell the lass that vegans are smelly, dirty and have no friends.
    Also that eating meat is what made humans so intelligent.
    All of the above is factual.

  174. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    How I dream of the return of the Nightsoilperson aka. Shit Carter. The wimminses would be demanding the right to lug those cans, so that white male privilege doesn’t come to dominate the profession.

    For some reason, female shearers, fitters, boilermakers, tire fitters, diesel mechanics are also thin on the ground.

  175. Boambee John

    rickw
    #2596668, posted on December 30, 2017 at 11:48 am
    Put her on a very bland vegan diet cutting out all animal based products, dairy, eggs, etc.
    The problem should resolve itself within a few weeks.

    Possibly resolved within 24 hours! Particularly if everyone else is chowing down on those delicious animals!

    Used to be an advertising hoarding beside the highway between Canberra and Sydney.

    Words like : “There is a place for all G*d’s creatures, right between the baked potatoes and the minted peas.”

  176. Zatara

    It feels colder in parts of Canada than on Mars

    On Thursday, the temperature on Mars hit -20 degrees Fahrenheit.

    That might have felt positively balmy to some Canadians, who are shivering through a frigid cold snap. This week, temperatures across the country dropped way, way, way below freezing. In Edmonton and Yellowknife, it felt like -40 degrees. Things felt just about as cold in Saskatoon and Regina, located near the middle of the country. In Ottawa and Toronto, it felt like -20 degrees with the windchill.

    On Thursday, the Mars Gale Crater reached -9.4 degrees, making it feel warmer than Saskatoon, Montreal and Calgary. At night, NASA’s Curiosity rover recorded lows of -112 degrees.

    But, but, but, the atmosphere of Mars is 95.9% Carbon Dioxide! And it’s closer to the sun! How could it possibly get so cold?

    I feel a disturbance in the farce.

  177. stackja

    C.L.
    #2596688, posted on December 30, 2017 at 12:07 pm

    Cain killed able.

  178. John Constantine

    The obvious solution for their yarragrad is to have no go zones for racist colonialist police in the new welfare voteplantations.

    Pay the mosquebunkers to provide religious police to keep the voters in line.

    Their Saudi Arabia doesn’t seem to have much trouble with Apex Predators carjacking sheiks luxury vehicles.

  179. C.L.

    What a country.
    A man dead after being run over by a Muslim, let in by politicians.
    A woman dead after a head-on with a drug-addict, let off by judges.
    Meanwhile, authorities have pounced on the prime minister for not wearing a life-jacket during a 20 metre dinghy voyage.

  180. Joe

    Vegetables are, of course, food. However, they have had billions of years of evolution to prevent predation and have evolved a wide range of toxins that our bodies only just ameliorate. Animals also have billions of years of evolution and developed toxins that are much more effective in protection. Those animals we leave alone. The others have little in the way of toxins, certainly much less than your average plant. Vegans and vegetarians poison themselves. The rest of us just avoid the poisonous animals (unless you’re Japanese) and get on with the vast variety of delicious cuisines involving meat from around the world.

  181. C.L. #2596688, posted on December 30, 2017 at 12:07 pm

    Correct on all points.

  182. Oh come on

    Do nothing. Tonnes of kids go through this and somehow find their way out of it. Same with a flirtation with environmentalism. Everything is very simple when you’re…well, I was going to say a child, but really it could be your twenties and some people never snap out of it. Still, it’s true. Don’t pollute our Earth and don’t hurt animals is a very easy position to hold if you have a very limited understanding of the tradeoffs required to maintain them.

    Broadly, I think the vast majority of normally parented kids will snap out of their crusading instincts. It’s the ones with crusading parents and/or screwed up childhoods that go on to become freaky finger-waggers.

  183. Zatara

    However, they have had billions of years of evolution to prevent predation and have evolved a wide range of toxins that our bodies only just ameliorate.

    Which explains brussel sprouts.

  184. Mater

    Mate, I was there.

    MV,
    You know this spurious argument doesn’t hold sway with Rae.
    Google has all the lived experience that is needed.

  185. old bloke

    Tintarella di Luna
    #2596576, posted on December 30, 2017 at 10:17 am

    This Australia Post recruitment ad is a corker

    Cripes, I’m so old that I can remember when Australia Post was in the letter and parcel delivery business.

  186. Oh come on

    Meanwhile, authorities have pounced on the prime minister for not wearing a life-jacket during a 20 metre dinghy voyage.

    Good. I bet Turnbull privately thinks it’s ridiculous but publicly comes out to thank the officious turds who fined him for doing their part in keeping the public safe. The PM is fully on board with this kind of citizen bothering. He was hoist by his own petard just a little bit. If it happened to Mark Latham, say, and Latho made a huge stink about it, that’d be worth something.

  187. Delta A

    A woman dead after a head-on with a drug-addict, let off by judges.

    That would be bad enough, C.L., but the addict also killed her parents in the same smash and left her sister in critical condition with horrific injuries.

  188. Top Ender

    Joe
    #2596675, posted on December 30, 2017 at 11:58 am
    If you don’t eat your meat. You can’t have any pudding!
    You can’t have any pudding if you don’t eat your meat!

    Yes, Pink Floyd rule OK?

  189. John Constantine

    Swearing in Apex Predators in as special community constables will happen soon enough.

    We aren’t openly told who supervises the lone wolf Faithful and their Apex gang while they do their community service.

    We can assume that military age males that beat western policewomen to a pulp because no woman tells them what to do, these men aren’t going to be disciplined by a council western wymynsys social worker.

    Are we paying imported community leaders to supervise the culturally appropriate community service done by imported criminals, so we don’t offend the criminals so much they have to kill us?.

    Bash a policewoman teeth in, get community service, but nothing that offends your sense of exceptionalism.

  190. johanna

    Been away for a couple of days, just catching up.

    Mater and Mike of Marion, I have no words, but no doubt Mike has some music. 🙂

    Nothing wrong with either of your brains that I can detect.

    Nil carborundum, and all that.

  191. Mater

    Nothing wrong with either of your brains that I can detect.

    Well nothing that wasn’t well established years ago, Joanna. 😉

  192. Roger

    Meanwhile, authorities have pounced on the prime minister for not wearing a life-jacket during a 20 metre dinghy voyage.

    Good.

    The dual citizenship fiasco showed that many in parliament think they are above the laws and regulations they impose on the rest of us.

    Let them feel the full force of petty officialdom at every turn, I say.

  193. Joe

    Which explains brussel sprouts.

    And kale and those variegated weeds that are packaged in plastic bags in the supermarket.

  194. Mater

    Oops…Joanna = Johanna.

    You were saying, Johanna?

  195. Delta A

    And kale and those variegated weeds that are packaged in plastic bags in the supermarket.

    Joe, I suspect you’re not the type of guy who takes a salad along to a BBQ. 🙂

  196. zyconoclast

    Next. Taxpayer-funded taxi shuttles for clients of methadone clinics and heroin injection rooms

    Less crazy than NDIS funded “therapeutic” trips to Disneyland and Kruger Safaris for client and carers.

  197. Top Ender

    Worth running again.

    Australia Post: a cross between a creche; gym, relaxation space, and a business designed to lose money.

    Where silly words like “Awesome” rule.

    Meanwhile, letters take 7 days from Sydney to Darwin.

  198. Meanwhile, letters take 7 days from Sydney to Darwin.

    They take 7 days from Dannograd to Dannograd.

  199. egg_

    Gardening Oz – looks like Crazy Costa forgot to change out of his pyjamas – probably slept on a park bench nearby

  200. C.L.

    Barry Gibb and Ringo Starr to be knighted.

  201. Baldrick

    Has anyone lingered by the vegan section in your supermarket fridge? Featuring pseudo-meat that looks like dried up turds, and that’s far from the end of the horror show. I wouldn’t even call it food.

    That’s what I can never understand about vegans. They hate meat so much but make up substitutes that look like imitation meat and taste like imitation meat.

  202. Roger

    Meanwhile, letters take 7 days from Sydney to Darwin.

    Small parcel from suburban Los Angeles to Sydney – 24 hrs.

    From Sydney to Brisbane – 7 days.

  203. zyconoclast

    At a local pool I observed a disabled person with their paid carer.
    The disabled person was wearing a flotation device and drifting around the pool.
    The carer was doing laps and occasionally checking on the disabled person.

    So this essentially was an opportunity for the carer to get paid to do their own exercises on the pretence that they were actively engaging with the client.

    I suspect this scam was going on pre NDIS but will no doubt continue.

  204. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Fergus too apparently going through a bad time with chemotherapy but making an effort to be here too. Cheers, Fergus. Well done, and hang in there mate.

  205. zyconoclast

    THE Prime Minister is being urged to fund 80 new AFP officers to smash the gangs terrorising ­Melbourne’s suburbs.

    Isn’t that Vic Pols job?

  206. Oh come on

    This Australia Post recruitment ad is a corker

    Somebody tuck that woman’s freaking blouse in at the rear!

    Look, if AusPost is trying to attract “grads”, it’s not a bad idea to pretend that “grad” life at the office is just like their sociology or gender studies courses, albeit easier and even less time consuming (<10 contact hrs/week, 24 weeks/year) plus there are more opportunities for alcohol consumption and grown up things like coffee – full time work is soooo tiring! However, if they expect their "grads" to perform in these stupid puff pieces, they could at least include acting lessons.

    Also, in 5 years' time this video will be tendered in evidence in this woman's sexual harrassment suit against AusPost and also used by police to lay any associated sexual assault charges against her male colleagues – the man after the bicycle man touched her arm, plus the interactions were clearly inappropriate in their over-familiarity and would be intimidating for females.

  207. Mater

    He lived for a short period on tinned vegetarian sausages while we ate the deliciously real ones.

    Maters Musing – 30th Dec 17

    If they are so against meat products, why do they insist that their vegetables look like meat products?

  208. Joe

    Joe, I suspect you’re not the type of guy who takes a salad along to a BBQ.

    There’s salads at BBQ’s? Who knew?
    Seriously, I like conventional salads and vegetables. Waldorf, or lettuce, onion and tomato with olive oil and maybe lemon or vinegar. Roast potatoes, pumpkin etc all fine.

    Modern sprigs with no dressing, looking like someone just walked out to the road and ripped some random vegetation up to be served as a “salad” is just plain sad.

  209. Oh come on

    And trans people. I didn’t see any trans people.

  210. Joe

    Oh, and FLOWERS are meant to be seen and not eaten.

  211. Oh come on

    They hate meat so much but make up substitutes that look like imitation meat and taste like imitation meat.

    This is actually cunning anti-meat propaganda to keep vegans and other vegetarians in the fold. See, *this* is what your meat tastes and looks like! Now would you prefer it or a carrot stick? Though so muahahahaha

  212. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    If they are so against meat products, why do they insist that their vegetables look like meat products?

    I think it’s deep in our animal genes. Meat just ‘looks’ and ‘smells’ edible. Vegies mostly don’t.
    Now someone will come in and say it’s all cultural. 🙂

  213. Joe, I suspect you’re not the type of guy who takes a salad along to a BBQ.

    Delta, the purpose of a salad at a bbq is to let everyone know when it is put on the table, that the meat will be along shortly.

  214. John Constantine

    The West Australian has an article showing that five years ago 400 people jn Perth’s metropolitan councils were on over a hundred grand a year, now 1100 are on over a hundred grand.

    In the old days, councils would hide the benefits and only declare the cash wage.

    Seems they were happy to lie to ratepayers about wages if the truth would upset them.

    Their yarragrad figures would be interesting.

    Paid to be an activist and smash society by a tax on the capital owned by ratepayers.

    They can’t even collect rubbish and fix roads, but council workers on over a hundred grand can save the planet by enabling the mass importation of military age unemployable males into council refugee dispersal areas, to provide more clients for council services.

    Smash this level of government, the country cannot survive the infection getting any bigger.

  215. Oh come on

    No, they won’t, Lizzie. They know if they do they’ll quickly be killed, cooked and eaten.

  216. Rae

    Mate, I was there.

    MV,
    You know this spurious argument doesn’t hold sway with Rae.

    It certainly doesn’t. I’m not his mate. And besides, “swae” is more correct.

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