Open Forum: December 30, 2017

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  1. Stimpson J. Cat

    Elizabeth
    @libby_zee
    23h
    Replying to @Ba1drick and 2 others
    Stalker Boy, if mental illness was a crime you’d be in jail.

    So would I Grig, so would I.

  2. Fisky

    I can see lots of Putinist bots on Twitter, hosing down the #iranprotests as a CIA plot.

  3. Zatara

    Their is a word for vegetables on a plate of meat.

    Garnish

  4. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    As an addendum to the above: last century, French anthropologist Claude Levi-Strauss wrote a treatise on ‘The Raw and the Cooked’, looking at the development of culture as starting with the cooking of our food, separating us qualitatively from the rest of the animal kingdom.

    Cooking is certainly a useful thing; it breaks down plant fibres to produce human gut edibles, and it also allows us to digest a lot more of the protein in the meat we consume. This improved the ratio of our mouths fed to food found per unit of energy expended on finding it, i.e. the population carrying capacity of the human range in hunter-gathering, so we got bigger groups, and the advantages of that.

  5. John Constantine

    Once yarragrad imposes it’s curfews,(to save electricity) and allows the Faithful to form religious police cadres to enforce the ’empty streets after sunset’ laws, this will fix the crime problem, Judge Al-Dredd style.

  6. cohenite

    But, but, but, the atmosphere of Mars is 95.9% Carbon Dioxide! And it’s closer to the sun! How could it possibly get so cold?

    Mars is further, but the point about CO2 is valid.

  7. Zatara

    There, not “there”. Spellcheck on mobile phone sux.

    Funny, my phone thinks “sux” is just peachy though.

  8. nemkat

    Aboriginals who formed a youth gang in Adelaide a few years ago had the cops down on them like a ton of bricks.
    That the same hasn’t happened with the African gangs most likely indicates that they’ve got a nod and a wink from higher up the food chain.

  9. Stimpson J. Cat

    More Trump winning?

    Not everything is Trump.
    Only 99.854321%.

    Jesus Christ Custard you know this.

  10. Mater

    And besides, “swae” is more correct.

    Now there’s a first! Google doesn’t support you in that assertion.

  11. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Funny, my phone thinks “sux” is just peachy though.

    Awesome.

  12. Stimpson J. Cat

    I’m not his mate.

    Hey Grig, is [email protected]_zee one of your mates?

  13. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Fergus’s link to ‘stabbed teenagers say they were targeted for just being Aussie’ doesn’t work on my computer, but the point is made anyway, and Fergus is justifiably angry about it. If you are a white Aussie male, you’re history.

  14. zyconoclast

    My 10 year old granddaughter is entering the phase of wanting to be a vegetarian (it’s cruel to kill animals you see). I need some good reasons to convince her this is not a good idea. Please help.

    Show her videos of what vitamin B12 and iron deficiencies look like like, closely followed by the same people getting Vit B12 and iron injections.

  15. It certainly doesn’t. I’m not his mate.

    Fair enough. In the spirit of the season I just it would be nice for you to receive at least one post that didn’t start “fvck off”. Obviously not. So fvck off.

  16. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Human (of a sort) developed fire, and cooking, very early on, before we were even ‘sapiens’.
    We were already ‘homo’ though, but I’m not going there. 🙂

  17. Oh come on

    Grigs doesn’t have mates. He has a drawer full of dual purpose socks (but not for feet), and a collection of every Aldi catalogue ever issued, which assists his sock usages.

  18. Human (of a sort) developed fire, and cooking, very early on,

    That was back when some men had breasts, but they quickly became extinct.

  19. zyconoclast

    Don’t forget survival rates, Top Ender. Women are disproportionately over-represented in the 75+ age group. We need some serious culling at the top end to even things up.

    Dan of Victoriastan has already legislated for this to happen.

  20. John Constantine

    Khat in Australia.

    Is it better or worse than methamphetamine for the Faithful and Apex predators?.

    Have we imported a critical mass of a Khat reliant culture that need their Soma to stop them being so angry they have to kill us.

    Free Khat for all those on NDIS, tax funded.

    As tribute.

    Comrades.

  21. JC

    Oh look, menorygland goes after Gatgiolwyib in a group. The very thing he complains about when asked to explain his past. Shit smells better than the gland .

  22. egg_

    But, but, but, the atmosphere of Mars is 95.9% Carbon Dioxide!

    Yup, comparison of CO2 on 3 of the rocky inner planets has been made here before.
    Very different in each case, despite the GHG hypothesis.
    Warmies are not interested in anything extra terrestrial – it’s all Malthusian about humans.

  23. nemkat

    Australia playing for a draw, 14 runs in front, just lost 2 wickets.
    Go, poms.

  24. Boambee John

    Someone tell PVO that if he wants gender et al equalidee in Parliament or elsewhere, the approach should be to abandon those messy membership and pre-selection processes, and go straight to a ballot for the positions.

    Sortition anyone?

    Where are you Dot! Tell PVO his dream can come true. Everyone gets one term in Parliament or the public service.

  25. Stimpson J. Cat

    My 10 year old granddaughter is entering the phase of wanting to be a vegetarian (it’s cruel to kill animals you see). I need some good reasons to convince her this is not a good idea. Please help.

    Hi.
    Dr Stimpy here.
    Everyone knows that plants and vegetables produce oxygen using photosynthesis.
    What a lot of people don’t know is that this helps fight global warming and climate change, as well as repairing the ozone layer.
    It is vital to our efforts to save Earth and Gaia that we not only consume meat and animal products, but that we come up with plant and vegetable substitutes/replacements created out of meat and animal products.

    That way we make the only true moral choice and save our plants and vegetables,
    so they can get back to the important business of saving us.

  26. Tropical

    Is it better or worse than methamphetamine for the Faithful and Apex predators?.

    Khat is a flowering plant native to the Horn of Africa and the Arabian Peninsula. Khat contains the alkaloid cathinone, an amphetamine-like stimulant, which is said to cause excitement, loss of appetite, and euphoria.
    In answer to your question, both send you stupid and crazy with a large dose of agro.
    Once picked Khat only has a life of about 24 hours, before fresh stuff is required.

  27. Top Ender

    For any Cat with kids at home “saving for a deposit”.

    Scott Pape, Sunday Herald Sun
    an hour ago
    Subscriber only
    WHAT motivation do kidults have to save money while they’re living with family rent free? Absolutely none says the Barefoot Investor — it’s time to stop enabling their stupidity.

    MAX ASKS: For the past 12 months my 29-year-old sister-in-law and her boyfriend have been living with us to “save for a deposit”.

    However, they have that much debt from credit cards, holidays, cars, etc, that they may be around awhile!

    They both earn good money but are equally good at spending it on “lifestyle” items. How do we gently guide them on the right path without sounding like we are nagging?

    We want to support them, but if we give them notice they will just go to their parents and live the same way.

    BAREFOOT REPLIES: You sound like the sort of guy an Arbonne multi-level marketing sales recruiter would love!

    Are you really letting your brother’s ex — and her new (unrelated) boyfriend — live in your home rent free? Dude!

    Anyway, the kindest thing you could do for this couple is to kick them out on their backsides. You’re not helping them, you’re enabling their stupidity. You’re delaying the reality check they so badly need.

    What motivation do they have while they’re living with you rent free? None!

    Years ago I was an expert on a reality television show called The Nest, which looked at a bunch of twenty-somethings who were still living at home with their parentals.

    Every kidult claimed they were doing it for financial reasons — housing is expensive, and they were saving up for a hefty deposit.

    Yet on closer inspection none of them had saved a cracker. It’s almost always this way.

    Bottom line? You’re treating these adults like children. It’s time you showed them some respect. Let them stand on their own two feet!

    And if their parents are happy to let them fly back into their nest, that’s their problem, not yours.

  28. Mark A

    Stimpson J. Cat
    #2596774, posted on December 30, 2017 at 1:25 pm

    That way we make the only true moral choice and save our plants and vegetables,
    so they can get back to the important business of saving us.

    Also point out that the dirty cows produce methane, in quantity.
    A dangerous ‘greenhouse gas’, so by eating them we help Gaia to recover and stay healthy.

  29. calli

    Barefoot is a Boomer. You can tell by the inherent cruelty of the Kidult Solution.

  30. Mark from Melbourne

    Just caught up with Mater and Mike’s news. Best to both of you.

    From bitter experience, there will be times when you feel the world is closing in a bit, and the best way through that is to understand that it’s OK to feel that way, so long as you remember that there is always a light at the end of the tunnel. Might not be exactly the light you thought it would be (or were hoping for) but it is always there.

  31. More evidence of gerbil wormening.
    Especially the bit about the “missing heat hiding in the ocean deeps”.

    Frozen sharks!

  32. zyconoclast

    This Australia Post recruitment ad is a corker

    Remember this occurred before the $10M man left.

  33. Oh come on

    Barefoot isn’t big on reading-comprehension. It’s Max’s wife’s sister and her BF, not his brother’s ex. Anyway, Max is probably a busybody who wants these people in his life so he can control them. He has probably tried nagging them, which hasn’t worked, so he’s looking for an alternative method. Ultimately he doesn’t want them to move out which is why he’s providing them an offer they can’t refuse, free accommodation, and justifying his actions by claiming to be concerned about them putting a burden on a far more appropriate party (their parents). Bullshit. Max and his Mrs are creepy Grigory-esque figures and his sister-in-law and her boyfriend will probably end up chained to something in Max’s cellar.

  34. Stimpson J. Cat

    Are you really letting your brother’s ex — and her new (unrelated) boyfriend — live in your home rent free? Dude!

    Max is literally the King of the Cucks.

  35. johanna

    Sultan Knish is at his most eloquent here:

    Its hard to pick something from this compelling essay, but:

    The Russian peasants who were promised their own land were instead chained to feudal collectivist farms. They were reduced to sharecroppers who were unable to leave the lands of their masters. The workers who were promised bread starved in the cities. The soldiers who were promised peace died in a more horrifying war. When Stalin told his mother that he was the new czar, the scam was complete.

    It was the same story from the Soviet Union to Communist China, from Cuba to Cambodia, from the ghettoes of blue states to the rusting factories of union shops, from the decaying farmlands of Europe to the blighted working class of Britain. The scam ends with mass misery for everyone except the leftist scammers. The revolutionaries get rich and powerful while everyone else loses everything.

    But every scam has a choke point. That’s where the bait turns out to be the hook. It’s where the revolution runs out of other people’s money and comes for your life savings. It’s when environmentalism doesn’t mean shutting someone else’s factory, but raising your energy bills, banning your plastic bags and shutting down the business that pays your wages.

    It’s when the new horrible racist or sexist of the week isn’t that guy on the news. It’s you.

    The choke point is when the revolution you supported runs out of all the other people who supposedly had it coming. And its machinery of smears, thievery and murder (for the people) reaches you.

    The great scam of the left is convincing the majority that the solution to their problems lies with a small minority. Get rid of the 1 percent and the 99 percent will live like kings. Get rid of a few southern racists and we can all be brothers. Ban X, regulate Y and outlaw Z and we’ll all be better off for it.

    The choke point is when the small minority expands to include you. And then it’s no longer a few billionaires. It’s the upper middle class. And then it’s the entire middle class. It’s all white people. It’s all men. And then it’s everyone. The minority turns out to be the majority. And that’s the scam.

    Identity politics is approaching its own choke point. It’s running out of other people.

    Daniel Greefield (aka The Sultan of Knish) is a smart guy with a solid set of principles.

  36. Roger

    My 10 year old granddaughter is entering the phase of wanting to be a vegetarian (it’s cruel to kill animals you see).

    But plants have “feelings” too, as scientists are discovering. They are even positing that plants have something analogous to our nervous system, although they don;t understand how it works without organs.

    So, advise her that if cruelty to living things is her main concern then anything less than fruitarianism – eating only nuts and fruit that has fallen from the tree – is the rankest hypocrisy. Hunger will soon overcome her scruples.

  37. JC

    When Charlie speaks, you listen.

    Warren Buffett’s top lieutenant, Charlie Munger, is a bitcoin skeptic.

    Munger was asked for his views on cryptocurrencies during a University of Michigan’s Ross School of Business event.

    “I think it is perfectly asinine to even pause to think about them,” Munger said. “It’s bad people, crazy bubble, bad idea, luring people into the concept of easy wealth without much insight or work. That’s the last thing on Earth you should think about … There’s just a whole lot of things that aren’t going to work for you. Figure out what they are and avoid them like the plague. And one of them is bitcoin. … It is total insanity.”

    Charlie’s right. You can’t value it and offers no rate of return.

    I like him more than Buffet and I reckon is smarter.

  38. C.L.

    Breaking: Trump fires Obama’s doctrinaire HIV/AIDS council.

    All of them.

  39. Stimpson J. Cat

    But plants have “feelings” too, as scientists are discovering. They are even positing that plants have something analogous to our nervous system, although they don;t understand how it works without organs.

    This is true.
    They are also fascinating although admittedly slow conversationalists when you are psychotic.
    They can be racist towards those with mental illness however.
    I am certain I offended some of them the last time I had an episode, and now none of them will talk to me.
    Literally at all.

  40. Stimp. Try pruning a rose bush. They fight back.

  41. Stimpson J. Cat

    Stimp. Try pruning a rose bush. They fight back.

    Though it’s been a while now
    I can still feel so much pain
    Like the knife that cuts you the wound heals
    But the scar, that scar remains.
    I know I could have saved our love that night
    If I’d know what to say
    Instead of making love
    We both made our separate ways
    Now I hear you’ve found somebody new
    And that I never meant that much to you
    To hear that tears me up inside
    And to see you cuts me like a knife, i guess
    Every rose has its thorn
    Just like every night has its dawn
    Just like every cowboy sings his sad, sad song
    Every rose has its thorn

  42. Roger

    It’s when environmentalism doesn’t mean shutting someone else’s factory, but raising your energy bills, banning your plastic bags and shutting down the business that pays your wages.

    Pennsylvania recently sent a delegation to Australia to entice businesses here to relocate to a place that has abundant and cheap energy.

  43. Tom

    Sultan Knish is at his most eloquent

    Thanks, Johanna. One for the remembery.

  44. C.L.

    Gerard Henderson reviews the year, ridicules the left.

    My personal favourites:

    … Wendy Harmer, a member of the eco-catastrophist club, rails against the construction of Western Sydney Airport at Badgerys Creek on environmental grounds. She reckons it will add to the heat in western Sydney, making the area “unlivable”. Harmer also predicts that the tarmac will melt — which makes you wonder how people live and travel in, say, Dubai.

    ———————-

    ABC TV’s Media Watch presenter Paul Barry tweets: “No idea if this is true — claim that Trump impeachment process has begun.” It hadn’t. Bongiorno tweets: “There has been a death at Buckingham Palace, world awaits for an official announcement.” The vibe is that Prince Philip had died. He hadn’t. OnRadio National’s Breakfast, Fran Kelly and Alice Workman agree that the Perth-based Liberal MP Andrew Hastie is part of the “Catholic right”. He isn’t a Catholic.

    ———————-

    Visiting British political operative Alastair Campbell ad­vises a supportive audience on ABC’s Q&A that he told his former boss Tony Blair that where Adolf Hitler “took a few years before he started to go for journalists and judges, Trump did it in week one”. Blair thought this “over the top” — but not, apparently, Q&A presenter Tony Jones.

    ———————-

    Failed environmental prophet Tim Flannery reckons that in China “the air’s unbreathable, the water’s undrinkable and the food’s inedible”. Yet there are more than a billion Chinese.

    ———————-

    Journalist Sarah Macdonald “just can’t get over how much smarter Hillary (Clinton) is than Trump”. But not smart enough to campaign in Michigan or Wisconsin, it seems

  45. Pennsylvania recently sent a delegation to Australia to entice businesses here to relocate to a place that has abundant and cheap energy.

    How are they off for cripples?

  46. Oh come on

    From CL’s link:

    “The Trump Administration has no strategy to address the on-going HIV/AIDS epidemic, seeks zero input from experts to formulate HIV policy,” Scott Schoettes, a lawyer with the LGBT rights organisation Lambda Legal

    Lambda? Sounds uncomfortably similar to NAMBLA. Like lambs to da slaughter.

    Anyway, how’s this for a strategy? Let the market (and Darwin) work it out.

  47. Fisky

    Poor Jonathan Chait. He wrote a dumb book all through 2016 about how Obama’s legacy would be “enduring” and “lasting”, expected to release it in the week of Hillary’s inauguration, and now there is practically no trace of Obama having ever been President. What a dumb waste of time!

  48. stackja

    CL homosexuals know how to control HIV. But won’t!

  49. JC

    It’s personal with the orange fuck – he hates Bezos and Amazon. But he is right.

    Trump slams Amazon while calling for higher Post Office pricing

    President Trump mentions Amazon (NASDAQ:AMZN) on Twitter while calling for the U.S. Postal Service to raise shipment prices to cover costs.

    Trump’s tweet: “Why is the United States Post Office, which is losing many billions of dollars a year, while charging Amazon and others so little to deliver their packages, making Amazon richer and the Post Office dumber and poorer? Should be charging MUCH MORE!”

    The Post Office reported FY17 results last month with revenue of $69.6B, down $1.8B on the year, and operating expenses of $72.2B. The drop was due to declines in First-Class and Marketing Mail, which were partially offset by growth in package volume.

    Package volume grew by 589M pieces or 11.4% on the year compared to the 5B piece or 3.6% decline in mail volume. Shipping and Packages revenue rose 11.8% to $2.1B.

    Amazon founder and CEO Jeff Bezos also owns the Washington Post newspaper, which Trump has slammed numerous times on Twitter.

  50. C.L.

    LOL.
    The Trumpet wants the P.O. to up their prices to get even with Bezos?
    He really plays hard-ball.

  51. calli

    Malsky justified scaring some of the children in attendance by arguing that President Trump’s immigration policies do more significant harm to children.

    “Probably more scared than the children being taken away from their parents due to @realDonaldTrump’s inhumane immigration policies,” he wrote in a tweet. “Or more scared than a trans kid who fears getting murdered for being who they are. Or a sick child who has just lost access to healthcare.”

    Typical. Hypothetical “scared” children trump actual scared children in the small, small world of TDS.

  52. John Constantine

    Identity politics was approaching it’s choke point in Australia, but our quisling politicals beat it.

    Simply mass import an entire herd of enraged permanent Stalin’s own underclass, one that can only be fed by eating the once-were-rich.

    Comrades.

  53. calli

    Sorry. That was from mh’s link.

  54. JC

    As a Sydney Airport shareholder I have to agree with Wendy. The proposed airport is catastrophic ‘vironmentally and it would cause lots of warming. 🙂

    … Wendy Harmer, a member of the eco-catastrophist club, rails against the construction of Western Sydney Airport at Badgerys Creek on environmental grounds. She reckons it will add to the heat in western Sydney, making the area “unlivable”. Harmer also predicts that the tarmac will melt — which makes you wonder how people live and travel in, say, Dubai.

    Wendy is also right about the tarmac melting in the heat. Tarmacs are basically 40 feet deep concrete blocks and melt very easily.

  55. tarmac melting in the heat

    G-G-G-G-Global W-W-W-Warming.

    thank you again Ramirez

  56. Mindfree

    Charlie’s right. You can’t value it and offers no rate of return.

    I like him more than Buffet and I reckon is smarter.

    My sentiments exactly

  57. calli

    Harmer is recalling her thongs sticking to the road in the summers of her yoof. Now in her dotage, she imagines aircraft tyres doing the same on hot concrete.

  58. egg_

    Wendy Harmer, a member of the eco-catastrophist club, rails against the construction of Western Sydney Airport at Badgerys Creek on environmental grounds. She reckons it will add to the heat in western Sydney, making the area “unlivable”. Harmer also predicts that the tarmac will melt — which makes you wonder how people live and travel in, say, Dubai.

    Still doing comedy, I see.

  59. calli

    Because “tarmac” has tar in it. Like ginger is full of gin.

  60. Roger

    She reckons it will add to the heat in western Sydney, making the area “unlivable”.

    LOL.

    Not to worry, Wendy; by then the great property crash will have happened and the government will be able to commandeer Triguboff’s vacant apartments to house the climate refugees from the West.

  61. Marcus

    So, any Western Australian Cats remember the Langoulant Inquiry? The inquiry that Mark McGowan instituted into the spending of the Barnett government but which was definitely not a witch hunt of any description? The one led by the former public servant who got his nose put out of joint when Barnett overruled his absurd recommendation to build the new stadium right next to the existing stadium?

    Well, guess what? That inquiry into wasteful spending is now apparently “over budget, over schedule and arguably underdelivering in relation to public value.”

    That’a according to Kim Papalia, the former Road Safety commissioner who’s apparently been subject to threats by Langoulant (link here). The only amendment I’d make to Papalia’s quoted statement above is to remove the word “arguably.”

  62. nemkat

    In the U.K., tarmac means bitumen.
    You’ve got to wonder what Country Wendy’s head resides in

  63. mizaris

    She reckons it will add to the heat in western Sydney, making the area “unlivable”.

    Um..isn’t western Sydney already full of people who are used to a fairly hot climate? Unfortunately it might make them feel even more at home.

  64. stackja

    Another yacht been naughty.

  65. Leo G

    In the U.K., tarmac means bitumen.

    Tarmac is bitumen “on the rocks”.

  66. testpattern

    ‘The ABC can reveal RAAF Base Darwin was placed on a “short period” of heightened alert, while over 100 Russian personnel and several aircraft were stationed at the Biak Airbase in Indonesia’s eastern Papua province.’

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-30/australia-on-alert-during-russian-military-exercise-in-indonesia/9293362

    But TP revealed it here 17 days ago, and much more, then gave a brief but excellent analysis that puts the combined amateur efforts of the ABC and ASPI’s Jennings to shame –

    testpattern
    #2583737, posted on December 13, 2017 at 3:58 pm
    Russian planes in Papua, Darwin automatically on alert –

    Distance Russia Indonesia: 9800 KM
    Cruising Power TU-160: 12,300 km (7,643 mi) practical distance Mach 0.77 and carry two internal rotary launchers each holding 6 missiles Roaming × Raduga Kh-55SM / 101 / 102 (primary weaponry) or 12 × Raduga Kh-15 short-range nuclear missiles.
    The Kh-55 has a range of up to 3,000 km (1,620 nm) and can carry conventional or nuclear warheads.

    Tu-95 from Vladivostok passing Japan, Philipps, Biak. Okinawa base, Midway base, Yokosuka Base, Pearl Harbour base, Guam Base and Darwin base on alert. The Tu-95 may return directly to Russia, but may go to India then Syria. Russia and Indonesia have a MOU to construct a space base at Biak.

  67. BrettW

    What an idiot.

    Wallaby Karmichael Hunt arrested and charged by Qld Police for cocaine possession late Saturday night.

  68. ian3029

    In the U.K., tarmac means bitumen.

    Tarmac is a diminutive of tarmacadam; a system of roadbuilding invented in 1902. It consists as Leo G states, of tar sprayed over a road base of stones or gravel. It is not bitumen.

  69. nemkat

    Hi pedants.
    Here in Australia, finished roads, excepting concrete, are colloquially called ”bitumen”.
    In the U.K., the same thing is called ”tarmac”.

  70. Whalehunt Fun

    I do not see the difference. Tar is heavy petroleum that seeps to the surface. Bitumen is heavy petroleum material that is what is left when the lighter materials are removed to use as fuel or lubricant base oil. sometimes the heavy residue is air blown to increase the viscosity by oxidation but principally it is little different to tar.

  71. Thus we end up with the HRC, an organisation that uses the ­language of rights to denigrate rights and that instinctively views people as the potential destabil­isers of society and morality.

    If you want more freedom in Australia, if you want your rights to mean something, then there’s an important first step to take: to abolish the Human Rights Commission.

    TRIGGS: “SADLY YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU LIKE AROUND THE KITCHEN TABLE AT HOME”

  72. Leo G

    She reckons it will add to the heat in western Sydney, making the area “unlivable”.

    The airport runways will definitely be unlivable. The particle pollution associated with the airport will aggravate air pollution generally across Western Sydney.

  73. Whalehunt Fun

    So covering Turnbull artist in bitumen and feathers would be just as much fun as using as tar.

  74. Boambee John

    calli
    #2596822, posted on December 30, 2017 at 2:19 pm
    Harmer is recalling her thongs sticking to the road in the summers of her yoof.

    That is ambiguous enough to bring some ugly images to mind! Bleach please!

  75. Whalehunt Fun

    there’s an important first step to take: to abolish the Human Rights Commission.

    Too little too late. Star chamber trials with public executions of the main characters would also be insufficient. All persons ever having offered public support should be included. That would rid us of all the ABC.

  76. Empire GTHO Phase III

    In the U.K., tarmac means bitumen.

    In aviation parlance it means a surface movement area with a bearing rating suitable for the aircraft operating on it. For Badgerys Creek: concrete.

  77. nemkat

    Whalehunt Fun
    #2596840, posted on December 30, 2017 at 3:05 pm

    That’s right, there is no difference.
    In Australia, tarmac means an aerodrome runway.
    In the U.K., tarmac means bitumen.
    But Wenry Harmer is so in tune with Australia, she didn’t know that.

  78. egg_

    Wendy Harmer, a member of the eco-catastrophist club, rails against the construction of Western Sydney Airport at Badgerys Creek on environmental grounds. She reckons it will add to the heat in western Sydney, making the area “unlivable”. Harmer also predicts that the tarmac will melt — which makes you wonder how people live and travel in, say, Dubai.

    Translation: “I don’t want to travel all the way out near the great unwashed in Western Sydney, just to catch a plane overseas.”

  79. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Tarmac does have a sort of tarry sound. I thought it came from tarmacadam.
    Here’s the gen. When Googlery’s away the rest of us can show off Google skills.

  80. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Aww, nemkat got in first. Not to mind.
    Wendy Harmer is still a dunce.

  81. lotocoti

    That is ambiguous enough to bring some ugly images to mind! Bleach please!

    I once did a job with some ABC techs.
    Their WH tale still wakes me in the dead of night, screaming.

  82. Empire GTHO Phase III

    Good to read you, Whalehunt.

    You should visit more often.

  83. Myrddin Seren

    TRIGGS: “SADLY YOU CAN SAY WHAT YOU LIKE AROUND THE KITCHEN TABLE AT HOME”

    TRIGGS: ‘Happily, Google Home Mini will fix that, in due course’ *

    * May or may not be #FakeNews. I am sure the sentiment is correct though.

  84. egg_

    there’s an important first step to take: to abolish the Human Rights Commission.

    Southpossumarse isn’t a racist with an axe to grind?

  85. Fisky

    Weird that the “leader of the free world” Angela Merkel has nothing to say about the #iranprotests…

  86. Stimpson J. Cat

    But TP revealed it here 17 days ago, and much more, then gave a brief but excellent analysis that puts the combined amateur efforts of the ABC and ASPI’s Jennings to shame –

    Great work Testy.
    Just fantastic.
    Keep it up.

  87. Bruce of Newcastle

    But TP revealed it here 17 days ago

    I was amused about it then and am even more amused that ABC has gone Oh No Wussians! today.
    My suspicion is they want to hype Dastardly Wussians in solidarity with da comrades in the US MSM.
    I’ve no idea what Putin wants with Indo, but he can have all of it as far as I am concerned.

  88. Old Bloke;

    Cripes, I’m so old that I can remember when Australia Post was in the letter and parcel delivery business.

    Looxury!
    I remember as a kid, the Saturday postal delivery, and the postie doing his rounds on horseback at Sawtell, NSW.

  89. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    She reckons it will add to the heat in western Sydney, making the area “unlivable”.

    It was always unlivable – somewhere from which to escape, for me in my youth.
    I think WS has improved somewhat now. More cultcha, and even aircon. Heaps more trees, which help keep things cooler and oxygenated, but a fire bomb ready to go off one hot westerly day. They were called plains because that’s what they were before the tree-huggers arrived. Always hot, hot, hot. Dry, dry, dry.
    Boring, boring, boring. And dusty. Don’t knock the airport; the area needs the business and employment.

  90. Nick

    Hey Pest Tattern, what did the Gubbament get you for Christmas?

  91. JC

    Fisky
    #2596857, posted on December 30, 2017 at 3:18 pm
    Weird that the “leader of the free world” Angela Merkel has nothing to say about the #iranprotests…

    There was news, the other day, the Iranian regime relaxed the laws to women wearing headscarfs. I wonder if the action suggests they’re shit scared.

  92. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Looxury!
    I remember as a kid, the Saturday postal delivery, and the postie doing his rounds on horseback at Sawtell, NSW.

    Carrying letters written with a thumbnail dipped in tar?

  93. Infidel Tiger

    There was news, the other day, the Iranian regime relaxed the laws to women wearing headscarfs. I wonder if the action suggests they’re shit scared.

    I wouldn’t get too excited about a couple of thousand people protesting a country of 80,000,000.

    It’s a good sign but things would have to escalate exponentially to unseat the regime.

  94. egg_

    I remember as a kid, the Saturday postal delivery, and the postie doing his rounds on horseback at Sawtell, NSW.

    Fond childhood memories of staying at the motel near the bridge enroute to relos in Newcastle.

  95. calli

    A tar baby is a baby. Has to be.

  96. Delta A

    I remember as a kid, the Saturday postal delivery

    And twice daily deliveries during the weeks before Christmas.

    Btw, people in those days sent New Year’s greeting cards as well as Christmas Cards. And Easter Cards. What a jolly lot we were back then!

  97. stackja

    Calli Br’er Rabbit comes to mind.

  98. stackja

    Delta – and locked doors? Not necessary.

  99. Empire

    It’s a good sign but things would have to escalate exponentially to unseat the regime.

    Indeed. Right now there are more proxies in play than a ColesMyer/ Solly Lew Boardroom stoush.

  100. Delta A

    locked doors? Not necessary.

    I don’t recall my parents ever locking the house. Don’t know if we even had a key.

  101. Bruce of Newcastle

    There was news, the other day, the Iranian regime relaxed the laws to women wearing headscarfs. I wonder if the action suggests they’re shit scared.

    JC – I suspect that a lot of Iranian sons are coming home in bodybags lately. Or not coming home at all.

    That was one reason why Putin backed off in Donetsk, the Russian casualties were becoming hard to cover up.

    The Yemeni Shi’a have been firing off a fair bit of sophisticated ordnance into Saudi Arabia lately – both ballistic rockets and cruise missiles. There’s no way a bunch of qat chewers could suddenly gain that capability overnight, which means a lot of Iranian ‘advisers’. The Houthis also have had to fight Sudanese mercs paid for by Saudi and dodge plenty bombs from Saudi jets. That means lots of Iranian encouragement needed to stiffen Houthi spines.

    Add to that the casualties the Iranians suffered in Syria and you have a solid undercurrent of resentment in Tehran in addition to rampant corruption and morality police.

  102. Arky

    Everything is shit.
    The missus has gone off on holidays recklessly leaving me to my own devices.
    It only took half a day for complete and utter disaster to decend.
    I decided to clean out the garage. This produced a large pile of shit to be thrown out, alloy wheels, car batteries, old bike frames, the warped head from the Mitsubishi, a car back seat and two dead chainsaws. At a time of the year a lot of businesses are closed.
    I rang around a bunch of metal recyclers. None of them were open to take this crap.
    But I had already packed the Mitsubishi chock full of the junk, and I needed the car to transport the dogs and pull the trailer.
    Off to the transfer station. Usually you can dump metal for free right?
    Woman at the weigh bridge directs me to the metal bin. But they won’t take the chainsaws because they once contained evil, toxic petrol. And they wont take the car seat because although it has about 20 kilos of steel, there is upholstery on it.
    I dump the small amount of metal items they are actually willing to take, and feel unsatisfied. The feeling of relief and lightness one gets from dumping a load of useless crap just does not occur.
    So I drive back to the weigh bridge and tell the bird I have decided to chuck the back seat as well.
    I look at the sign and see car boot load = $26.
    Hummmpfff.
    But the urge to get rid of this shit overwhelms my ingrained cheapness.
    I get my card out and hand it to her as she says “That will be $46”.
    My brain does that “Whaaaaaaaa???” thing as she paywaves.
    “Why so much”? “Because its a wagon load” “But its only that car seat, it would fit in a car boot” “It doesn’t matter you have a wagon. I have to charge you for a wagon” “Ok forget it”. “I already waved your card”. “Give me a refund”. “You can apply for a refund, it will take about a month”. “Fuck. Shit. Fucking ripoff. God fucking damn”.
    So I dump my one item at a cost of $46.
    The chainsaws still in the back reminding me of my inability to complete.
    Driving home I start seeing trees and bushs that would be ideal places to throw a couple of old chainsaws. My internal bogan likes this idea.
    Various parts of my brain join the debate: “I hate those fucking arseholes that dump their shit, don’t be a dickhead”. “You know, the consequences of green policies and expensive tip fees is illeagal dumping”. “Fuck you’re a cock brained simpleton, paid $46 to dump one carseat. Loser”.
    ..
    This was how I found myself in bushland by the road holding a dead chainsaw in each hand.
    Shit. Look at all this crap. People are pigs. I feel a pang of guilt and disgust. I look around for a bushy tree to leave the chainsaws.
    Which is when I see the camera.
    It’s camo, and tied to the tree with green webbing.
    ..
    At the police station.
    “Hello constable. I want to hand in this camera”.
    “Where did you find it”?
    “Attached to a tree in parkland. I think it’s part of an anti- dumping operation”.
    “What were you doing there”.
    “Um. Cleaning my car out”.
    [lecture about keeping our suburb clean omitted due to space]

  103. W Hogg

    Wendy is also right about the tarmac melting in the heat. Tarmacs are basically 40 feet deep concrete blocks and melt very easily.

    One story doing the rounds of ecoloons is that planes dump kero before EVERY landing and so WSyd will be covered in kero.

  104. Shy Ted

    Are you sure it was Wendy Harmer’ thongs stuck to the tarmac and not her lips?

  105. Tom

    As a Sydney Airport shareholder I have to agree with Wendy. The proposed airport is catastrophic ‘vironmentally and it would cause lots of warming.

    Hahaha. Laughed out loud, JC. You’re fucking shameless.

    For those living on Mars who may have missed it, Sydney Airport is a corruptly acquired, price-gouging, unregulated former government monopoly, for which nearly 90 cents in every dollar of revenue is pure profit. The new Sydney west airport will damage its margins and introduce the foreign concept of airport competition in the Sydney basin.

  106. Boambee John

    Bruce of N at 1519

    I’ve no idea what Putin wants with Indo, but he can have all of it as far as I am concerned.

    The Russians (Soviets) were all over Indonesia in the 1950s/early 1960s. Cost them a lot of money, for SFA long term return.

    Maybe it will be different this time.

  107. stackja

    Delta – Then reformers let the naughtiness take over.

  108. calli

    One story doing the rounds of ecoloons is that planes dump kero before EVERY landing and so WSyd will be covered in kero.

    That’s vaporised cooking oil.

  109. Boambee John

    Winston

    I remember as a kid, the Saturday postal delivery, and the postie doing his rounds on horseback at Sawtell, NSW.

    Are you still in the area?

  110. old bloke

    Winston Smith
    #2596863, posted on December 30, 2017 at 3:21 pm

    Looxury!
    I remember as a kid, the Saturday postal delivery, and the postie doing his rounds on horseback at Sawtell, NSW.

    Our postie was a WWII veteran (early 1950’s) who would deliver letters twice a day on weekdays, and on Saturday morning. The poor bugger had to ride his 2 ton bicycle around the suburbs wearing a blue serge uniform and cap, always with a pack of feral dogs trying to feed on his ankles. What a way to earn a living, particularly on a stinking hot mid-summer western Sydney day.

  111. vr

    JC.

    It’s personal with the orange fuck – he hates Bezos and Amazon. But he is right.It’s personal with the orange fuck – he hates Bezos and Amazon. But he is right.

    Check this out.

    In 2007 the Postal Service and its regulator determined that, at a minimum, 5.5% of the agency’s fixed costs must be allocated to packages and similar products. A decade later, around 25% of its revenue comes from packages, but their share of fixed costs has not kept pace. First-class mail effectively subsidizes the national network, and the packages get a free ride. An April analysis from Citigroup estimates that if costs were fairly allocated, on average parcels would cost $1.46 more to deliver. It is as if every Amazon box comes with a dollar or two stapled to the packing slip—a gift card from Uncle Sam.

    Amazon is big enough to take full advantage of “postal injection,” and that has tipped the scales in the internet giant’s favor. Select high-volume shippers are able to drop off presorted packages at the local Postal Service depot for “last mile” delivery at cut-rate prices. With high volumes and warehouses near the local depots, Amazon enjoys low rates unavailable to its competitors. My analysis of available data suggests that around two-thirds of Amazon’s domestic deliveries are made by the Postal Service. It’s as if Amazon gets a subsidized space on every mail truck.

  112. OldOzzie

    Reading during late lunch an Article my wife had printed out (presumably for Grandkids)

    “Crossing The Spit by Graeme Andrews Afloat Magazine January 2010”

    Something totally logical sprung out from the article re the Stupidity of Turnbull-Labor Lite, Labor and The Greens on Coal Fired Energy:- see highlighted in bold below

    The first Spit steam punt c.1889-1910.Also carrying vehicles across the gap was a purpose-built tram punt. From about 1912 this vessel was used to provide and replace electric trams for operation on the Manly tram service. The trams reached The Spit on January 9, 1911.

    Great care was needed to have the punt load and discharge promptly as the rails had to connect with those ashore and the tide had to be just right.

    The 75ft by 25ft tram ferry outlasted the vehicular ferry as the trams in the Manly area worked on until 1939 and it then had to carry them all back to the main network.

    It is an interesting political point that our electricity derived from burning coal, of which we had much, and the replacement buses burnt petrol and later diesel of which we had little – and imported almost all. This all happened when it was obvious that World War Two was looming and oil would have to be imported.

    The eventual replacement of the electric driven trams after 1961 showed that little had been learnt as Australia still had no oil wells that were commercial.

  113. jupes

    Two points. First, there are plenty of ADF jobs that can be oerformed quite well by women, releasing men for more active duties. Second, given the low proportions on men in nursing and teaching, I suspect that the comparative approach, taking account of Point 1, would demand more men in nursing and teaching.

    BJ there are some jobs in the ADF that can be performed quite well by women, however the problem, as we have witnessed over the last few decades, is that if you give them an inch they will take a mile. Start letting them drive trucks and before you know it the Chief of the Army has ordered that unqualified females will be placed in command 100 infantry troops, trannies can have their sex changes paid for and freaks with no gender can become officers.

    Fucking insanity. Far better to limit females to the nursing roles they had in WW1.

  114. Mark from Melbourne

    The new Sydney west airport will damage its margins and introduce the foreign concept of airport competition in the Sydney basin.

    As a Sydney Airport shareholder (thanks, JC!), I would just like to point out that this will likely happen in no-one here’s lifetime. And Wendy, god bless her thongs, is helping.

    This whole “competition” thing is way overrated, especially when it comes to airports. In Sydney.

  115. Bruce in WA

    I remember as a kid, the Saturday postal delivery

    Yep, twice a day during the week; once on Saturday.

    Anyone remember aerogrammes (or aerograms)? My nanna used to correspond regularly with rellies back in the UK and I was always astonished at how much she could fit on that flimsy blue paper.

  116. jupes

    I remember as a kid, the Saturday postal delivery, and the postie doing his rounds on horseback at Sawtell, NSW.

    We had milk delivered by horse and cart in Watsonia in 1967.

  117. stackja

    BOW – Yes aerograms! Now we have graduate paper shufflers. And e-mail!

  118. Infidel Tiger

    I remember as a kid, the Saturday postal delivery

    When I was a kid Australia had a reliable electricity supply.

  119. old bloke

    Nick
    #2596866, posted on December 30, 2017 at 3:23 pm

    Hey Pest Tattern, what did the Gubbament get you for Christmas?

    The Aga Khan sent him a race horse for Christmas
    And he keeps it just for fun, for a laugh, ha-ha-ha

  120. John Constantine

    Interesting reveal in the holiday season.

    From 2018 on, foreign students using the education system to buy residency by paying their fees to get a course stamped off, will theoretically have to have basic English language skills.

    How many population Ponzi people have our churnshop education system sold access to the Australian tax funded health and welfare system to, selling them a pass mark in a course taught in a language they can’t speak?.

    We were told the days of the hole in the wall hairdresser universities, run by Chinese mafia immigration dealers were long over.

    Doesn’t look like it.

    Comrades, just bring your cash and we are all maaaaates.

  121. Bruce of Newcastle

    One story doing the rounds of ecoloons is that planes dump kero before EVERY landing and so WSyd will be covered in kero.

    If Qantas is burning mustard seed oil in their hairyplanes to save da world, and they dump it on Mt Druitt, is that like mustard gas?

  122. egg_

    Amazon is big enough to take full advantage of “postal injection,” and that has tipped the scales in the internet giant’s favor. Select high-volume shippers are able to drop off presorted packages at the local Postal Service depot for “last mile” delivery at cut-rate prices. With high volumes and warehouses near the local depots, Amazon enjoys low rates unavailable to its competitors. My analysis of available data suggests that around two-thirds of Amazon’s domestic deliveries are made by the Postal Service. It’s as if Amazon gets a subsidized space on every mail truck.

    Reading Amazon product reviews online, a constant complaint in the US seems to be damage sustained due to poor product handling during shipment – the Amazon/Post segment of the trip?
    A ruthless employer to boot apparently, regardless of its cut price non-bricks-and-mortar operation.

  123. John Constantine

    I remember when Australia couldn’t even afford body armour and submachine guns for the coppers to take to Carols By Candlelight.

  124. stackja

    IT – You don’t know about Bunnerong?

  125. jupes

    There it is!

    What a champion.

  126. jupes

    I remember when Australia couldn’t even afford body armour and submachine guns for the coppers to take to Carols By Candlelight.

    Yes those were terrible times before we became a multicultural nation.

  127. Bear Necessities

    I remember as a kid, the Saturday postal delivery

    I remember as a kid back yard incinerators. On a Sunday afternoon you would gather all the rubbish that would burn, set it up in the incinerator and light it up.

  128. What a champion.

    Very good at facing pie throwers.

  129. Infidel Tiger

    Smith is a freak.

  130. Stimpson J. Cat

    When I was a kid Australia had a reliable electricity supply.

    When I was a kid Ethnics had manners and tried to fit in.

  131. old bloke

    jupes
    #2596926, posted on December 30, 2017 at 4:28 pm

    Yes those were terrible times before we became a multicultural nation.

    I remember those dark, pre-bollard days, everyone spoke English and Menzies was God.

  132. Empire GTHO Phase III

    Kudos to the Oz batsmen in the second dig.

  133. Stimpson J. Cat

    Also fat people were ashamed of their disgusting rampant gluttony and tried to be as invisible as possible.

  134. stackja

    BN – And bonfires in May.

  135. Stimpson J. Cat

    When I was a kid McDonalds had styrofoam burger boxes and White staff without piercings or tattoos.

  136. I remember when most teachers were men.

  137. Stimpson J. Cat

    I remember when most teachers were men.

    I remember when most teachers were Australian men instead of Kiwi women.

  138. stackja

    So Cook batting took too much time? No chance for win?

  139. Stimpson J. Cat

    When I was a kid the only people who had mental illness were crazy people and me.

  140. Fisky

    Yep most of the Alt-Right Twitter peeps are NOT happy about what’s going on in Iran!

  141. Arky

    I remember when Stimpson was amusing.

  142. stackja

    When I was a kid you went to milk bar for shake. Mac didn’t exist.

  143. jupes

    So Cook batting took too much time? No chance for win?

    Not really. If Australia had collapsed the Poms could have won. The rain didn’t make it easy either.

  144. egg_

    When I was a kid McDonalds had styrofoam burger boxes

    Hear! Hear!
    And the burgers actually stayed fvcking hot!

  145. Top Ender

    Anyone remember aerogrammes

    My parents emigrated from the UK in the early 60s, and regularly used those, but also small reel-to-reel tapes. You could record on “both sides” and I think it was 30 minutes a side.

    When alcohol was utilised the recordings apparently became rather risqué, although I only heard a few background remarks from their friends who were sending them from overseas.

  146. jupes

    I wonder if the MCG curator has rung JC’s suicide hotline yet or just gone and necked himself.

  147. I remember when, um ….
    err…
    when I could remember things.

  148. C.L.

    Trump wants one more win for the year:

    Donald J. [email protected]

    Many reports of peaceful protests by Iranian citizens fed up with regime’s corruption & its squandering of the nation’s wealth to fund terrorism abroad. Iranian govt should respect their people’s rights, including right to express themselves. The world is watching! #IranProtests

  149. Nick

    The Left: a handful of a Iranians protest against a regime,nothing.
    Women wear pussy hats protesting against a legitimately elected President, wall to wall analysis.

  150. Stimpson J. Cat

    I remember when Stimpson was amusing.

    I remember when Kiwi’s knew their place.

  151. Stimpson J. Cat

    Yep most of the Alt-Right Twitter peeps are NOT happy about what’s going on in Iran!

    Name names Fisky.
    Don’t be so dramatic.

  152. Arky

    I remember when Kiwi’s knew their place.

    ..
    On top of your missus.

  153. egg_

    Women wear pussy hats protesting against a legitimately elected President, wall to wall analysis.

    Arsehats for wymminses?

  154. Stimpson J. Cat

    On top of your missus.

    Remind me again why you are home alone with your chainsaws?

    😁

  155. JC

    I love American investment markets. I got taught a ton more just reading the weekly issue of Barrons than I did in a degree.

    Look at this investment fund dude. It’s a pretty simple philosophy. Invest in real estate where the tenant would find it hard to move. It’s simple, right. But have you ever seen that sort of thinking before?

    On the Lookout for Powerful Properties

    More importantly, “I’ve been through three full real estate cycles, working as a buy-side analyst, a sell-side analyst, an investment banker, and sitting on seven boards,” says the manager of the $293 million Altegris/AACA Opportunistic Real Estate fund (ticker: RAAAX). “I’ve seen this industry from every angle.”

    That perspective—and an unconventional approach to the space—has helped deliver his fund, launched in 2014, to the top 1% of its real estate category over the past three years, during which time it returned an average of 10.9% a year.

    Whereas real estate investing is often synonymous with buying apartments as well as retail and office buildings, East shuns most of those “generic” sectors to focus on what he characterizes as oligopolies—companies with footholds in growing segments of the economy, whose tenants essentially can’t move. “I don’t mean paying a termination fee because the lease is up,” he says. “I’m talking about things like hydroelectric dams, data centers, cellphone towers, and lab space.”

    It’s a big fund by the long stretch, but who cares if you can eek out an 11% return.

  156. rickw

    When I was a kid McDonalds had styrofoam burger boxes and White staff without piercings or tattoos.
    The only way Australia could get any uglier is if full face tattoos take off.

  157. wivenhoe

    Remind me again why you are home alone with your chainsaws?

    Lol, stimps, yep you still have it mate. Still one of the funniest people here.

  158. rickw

    #IranProtests

    I bet you the Iranian protesters aren’t using their mobile phones this time, that way Huawei can’t hand over their details to the regime.

  159. cohenite

    Whereas real estate investing is often synonymous with buying apartments as well as retail and office buildings, East shuns most of those “generic” sectors to focus on what he characterizes as oligopolies—companies with footholds in growing segments of the economy, whose tenants essentially can’t move. “I don’t mean paying a termination fee because the lease is up,” he says. “I’m talking about things like hydroelectric dams, data centers, cellphone towers, and lab space

    Tell him to buy Liddell and keep the turbines moving. Users of electricity can’t move.

  160. Arky

    Remind me again why you are home alone with your chainsaws?

    ..
    Because I have shit to do here.
    I will join my beautiful wife next week.

  161. 132andBush

    Wendy is also right about the tarmac melting in the heat. Tarmacs are basically 40 feet deep concrete blocks and melt very easily.

    Lol

    That’s just about a Liberty quote.

  162. Arky

    Lol, stimps, yep you still have it …

    ..
    Herpes?

  163. Tel

    Notice the use of “Social” as an adjective and prefix to something else.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Social_Nationalist_Party

    If you are going to be Nationalist, might as well be a bit Social about it too. Meet your fellow Nationalists over lunch for example, enjoy some flag waving together with those nice black, red and white colours, big circle in the middle and that cross is, ahhh, a whirlwind. Yeah, not runic in the least. Doesn’t remind me of anything else that I can think of.

  164. nilk

    Just lurk now sometimes. Mainlining chemo.

    Fergus @ midday, I’ll add you to my prayers with the other Cats in sickness and not in health.

    (I’m working more than full time it seems and rarely get the opportunity to even lurk, so taking advantage of some down time to play catch up).

  165. Infidel Tiger

    I wonder if the MCG curator has rung JC’s suicide hotline yet or just gone and necked himself.

    He’s just got the contract to repave Highway 1.

  166. nemkat

    Re the media hysteria over Steve Smith:
    if you take away the mindblowing advances in bat technology, batting helmets, all boundaries 10 metres shorter, and the DRS, Smith wouldn’t rate in the top 50.
    If the 1968 Ian Chappell turned up, they’d forget all about Smith.

  167. cohenite

    Interesting essay by Kenny:

    In the wake of Martin Place, Clive Kessler, emeritus professor at the University of NSW’s school of social sci­ences, wrote how the interception of any future “psychotic loner” attacks could be a matter for mental health and security agencies. “But most such incidents are the work of psychotic, sociopathic, disturbed or even ostensibly normal individuals who fall in with, and whose ideas and perverse impulses mesh them into, small like-minded groups, sometimes even broad social movements,” he said.

    Kessler wrote of the importance of serious debate within and about our Muslim communities covering the triumphalist and resentful elements of the faith that are shared by the mainstream but taken to violent ends by the extremists. This is the core of the debate. Unless we intelligently confront reforms needed to undermine the Islamist extremist ideology, all the bollards in the world cannot save us.

    The problem with reforming islam is insurmountable though as Shadi Hamid explains:

    The second factor is that of Quranic inerrancy. There is no equivalent in Christianity. This became increasingly clear to me the more I explored Christian theology and spoke to Christian theologians. Muslims misunderstand this important aspect of Christianity. The equivalent of the Quran in Christianity is not the New Testament, but Jesus – the “Word made flesh.” In any case, Christian evangelicals don’t argue that the Bible is God’s actual speech, but that the Bible is the word of God. Muslims, on the other hand, believe that the Quran is God’s actual speech, that every letter and word is directly from God. There is no human mediation, or interference, or any kind of involvement of that sort.

    Islam cannot change because it is literally the word of God.

  168. Atoms for Peace

    FWIW, we’re a multi racial country, NOT multi cultural.

  169. nilk

    Re the 10yo granddaughter vegetarian: My 15yo suggests introducing her to bacon, taking her to a steakhouse and asking for the vegan menu, or tofu. As we know, tofu is not real food. Or just let her go through with it all, she’s only ten and she’ll grow out of it. 🙂

  170. Rae

    Why do people watch cricket?

  171. nemkat

    It used to be an excuse to drink beer all day from an Esky, now it’s a way to get on Channel 9, momentarily.

  172. JC

    Why do people kill neighborhood pets, Gargeeloyey? You never can figure it out, right? Were you frequently beaten in as a child?

  173. JC

    Why do people kill neighborhood pets, Gargeeloyey? You never can figure it out, right? Were you frequently beaten as a child?

  174. Why do people watch cricket?

    Paint dries too quickly for them to be able to follow the action.

  175. jupes

    If the 1968 Ian Chappell turned up, they’d forget all about Smith.

    Said it once, I’ll say it again.

    You are an idiot.

  176. Delta A

    The Aga Khan sent him a race horse for Christmas
    And he keeps it just for fun, for a laugh, ha-ha-ha

    Maybe you and I are both a bit silly, old bloke, but that made me laugh out very loud.

  177. Muddy

    Fergus.
    Just catching up on the thread. Good luck with all of that.

  178. nemkat

    Why do people watch wogball?
    Ans. NFI, it makes paint drying look exciting.

  179. DrBeauGan

    It looks as if the ozbuck may be going down. I can’t tell because my platform has closed all forex markets.

  180. nemkat

    You never saw Chappell bat, or Bill Lawry, jupes.

  181. DrBeauGan

    And all the cryptos are going down except Ripple.

  182. jupes

    In the wake of Martin Place, Clive Kessler, emeritus professor at the University of NSW’s school of social sci­ences, wrote how the interception of any future “psychotic loner” attacks could be a matter for mental health and security agencies. “But most All such incidents are the work of psychotic, sociopathic, disturbed or even ostensibly normal individuals who fall in with, and whose ideas and perverse impulses mesh them into, small like-minded groups, sometimes even broad social movements Muslims,” he said.

    FIFY Clive you academic tosser.

    Kessler wrote of the importance of serious debate within and about our Muslim communities covering the triumphalist and resentful elements of the faith that are shared by the mainstream but taken to violent ends by the extremists. This is the core of the debate. Unless we intelligently confront reforms needed to undermine the Islamist extremist ideology Islam, all the bollards in the world cannot save us.

    Don’t dissemble Chris.

    Islam cannot change because it is literally the word of God.

    Cohenite nails it.

  183. Geriatric Mayfly

    Bloody eggshells again. Last night I posted cynical1’s De Night Befoe Cremma (see 8:02 previous thread for a laugh) to a mate in the UK. who I thought was broadminded to a degree. Below is part of the reply. Maybe he is protecting himself from future e-mails and worried about T. May (Mrs) sticking her nose into internet traffic to nab associates of hate criminals and those who defy political correctness.

    I feel I must caution you. Parts of your musings below could be considered mildly racist outside Australia.

  184. Delta A

    I remember as a kid back yard incinerators. On a Sunday afternoon you would gather all the rubbish that would burn, set it up in the incinerator and light it up.

    Dang you, Bear N, you caused all this g-g-global w-warming. I hope your happy with yourself!

    🙂

  185. Delta A

    That would be ‘you’re’. Hmmph!

  186. jupes

    You never saw Chappell bat, or Bill Lawry, jupes.

    How the fuck would you know?

    But yeah sure my mistake, Ian Chappell and Bill Lawry were better batsman than Smith.

    Give me strength.

  187. cuckoo

    If you read the BBC’s account of America’s warning to the Iranian mullahs about the current protests, the one person missing, suddenly, is Trump. The warning comes from ‘the US’, ‘the White House’, or Sarah Huckabee Sanders. Only then do they say that the statement later ‘appears’ on the twitter account of somebody called Trump, as if it drifted in through an open window. Can’t possibly attribute anything good to Trump, or make Barry look bad now, can we?

  188. twostix

    Lol your mate’s a total limey wanker, mayfly.

  189. Arky

    But yeah sure my mistake, Ian Chappell and Bill Lawry were better batsman than Smith.

    ..
    That’s homophobic.
    They’re batters doncha know?

  190. Delta A

    Dr BG, can you go on holiday again? You were interesting then, your travelogues a pleasure to read.

    Your money-making stuff not so much.

  191. Your money-making stuff not so much.

    The Cat is a broad church, Delta.

  192. Delta A

    The Cat is a broad church, Delta.

    A-bloody-men.

  193. John Constantine

    Imagine if their Hussein Obama hadn’t repaid the mad mullahs of Iran the cost of all the armour piercing explosives they laid on the roadsides of Iraq.

    Paid them in planeloads of cash, a bonus for every American soldier they killed, maimed and crippled, because that is how much Hussein Obama hated America.

    Imagine if Iran didn’t now have their obamabomb.

    Hussein Obama paid Iran to murder and maim American soldiers, enabled their fundamentalist atomically, then rammed through transgenderism and identity politics quotas over merit in the military until the navy was so staffed by activists they couldn’t drive a boat from one place to another without pranging it.

  194. Ragu

    stackja

    #2596938, posted on December 30, 2017 at 4:37 pm

    So Cook batting took too much time? No chance for win?

    Rain was forecast for day three and/or day four from the opening session. So our fuckhead team went out to strive valiantly for the draw by opening the boxing day test at 3 runs per over. Absolute disgrace

  195. Oh come on

    My olds have a story about me – apparently when I was 6ish, I claimed I was a vegetarian while stuffing my face with meat. I don’t remember this but I have always loved meat. I recall it being the first thing I ate on my plate. When I grew a bit older, I discovered it was good to eat the bits of the meal I didn’t really like first, and keep the bits I did like for later. Leaving aside the parts of the meal I didn’t like was never an option – everything had to be eaten. Thankfully, I wasn’t a fussy eater.

    For a ten year old kid, I figure there are two reasonable approaches which don’t involve recognising and condoning what is almost certainly a flimsy allegiance to vegetarianism.

    Approach 1 – eat your damn food, everything on your plate.

    Approach 2 – approach 1 but worded more gently. If needed, fall back on approach 1.

    Some things ought to be not negotiable and the food on your plate is one of them.

  196. Infidel Tiger

    Re the media hysteria over Steve Smith:
    if you take away the mindblowing advances in bat technology, batting helmets, all boundaries 10 metres shorter, and the DRS, Smith wouldn’t rate in the top 50.
    If the 1968 Ian Chappell turned up, they’d forget all about Smi

    By this idiotic reasoning, Bradman would have averaged 399.94. He had to play in uncovered pitches.

  197. twostix

    The thing about 80% of pom males is they spent about 1000 years as scum under their ruling classes boots, being literally cucked by the naughty toff boys in the big house as an ongoing cultural thing. A situation which they’d riot and die to protect and preserve again and again and again.

    The pom loves being the bottom to his master class. He loves it.

    It is not a coincidence that Australia’s sudden nannyism coincides perfectly with another wave of nice but worthless passive aggressive petite bourgeoisie poms being invited over by Howard.

  198. nemkat

    Exactly right. Weak as.
    jupes: if you’d ever seen Ian Chappell or Lawry bat, you’d keep your trap shut.

  199. nemkat

    By this idiotic reasoning, Bradman would have averaged 399.94. He had to play in uncovered pitches.
    Maybe give up drinking and commenting, Infidel Tiger.
    You’re even more incoherent than is usual.

  200. DrBeauGan

    Your money-making stuff not so much.

    Sorry, Delta. I am learning lots of interesting things, and JC knows far more than I do, so I read his comments on trading avidly.

    I recommend you get the plus 500 app so you can play too. It’s a lot of fun if you like learning new stuff. Beats watching blokes hitting balls with sticks by a few parsecs.

  201. Oh come on

    I feel I must caution you. Parts of your musings below could be considered mildly racist outside Australia.

    Bwahahaha what a xunt! Yeah yeah don’t take that tone with me, you Pommy twat. Remember you told me what ritual you undertook to be accepted into that university club. You disgust me.

  202. C.L.

    Lead story on Ten News: child care workers to demand same salary as engineers.

    Anchor: “It is not sure at this time who will pay for the increase.”
    Reporter in the field: “Child care work is hard; it’s noisy, messy and stressful …”

    LOL.

    We all know where this going, don’t we?

  203. Baldrick

    Rae
    #2596983, posted on December 30, 2017 at 5:39 pm
    Why do people watch cricket?

    Remember, this is from the same cockhead that was enthralled with the Sydney to Hobart yacht race.
    Go figure.

  204. Atoms for Peace

    Current cricket is synonymous with hair styling gel ads.

  205. Rae

    Voyager of the Seas is sailing away tonight.

    We sailed on her for our second circumnavigation of New Zealand. Nice Ship, had an $8M refurb in 2014.

  206. jupes

    jupes: if you’d ever seen Ian Chappell or Lawry bat, you’d keep your trap shut.

    Are you seriously suggesting that Bill Lawry was a better batsman than Smith?

    From wiki:

    As his career progressed, he wound back his strokeplay to the point where he was described by an English journalist as “the corpse with pads on”.

    FMD we have had some stupid people on this blog over the years but you are in a league of your own.

  207. Delta A

    Sorry, Delta

    Not at all, BG.

    I just wish I had enough interest in money to care about making tons of it.*

    *Disclaimer: if tons of money suddenly landed in my lap I would definitely have to rethink that statement.

  208. jupes

    Are you seriously suggesting that Bill Lawry was a better batsman than Smith?

    Not only that, but you reckon that Chappell and Lawry were so good that we would “forget” about Smith. As in: What was the name of that bloke who has scored three centuries so far this series including a double ton? Oh never mind, here comes the “corpse with pads”, this will be good!

  209. DrBeauGan

    I feel I must caution you. Parts of your musings below could be considered mildly racist outside Australia.

    I talked to a couple who had been living in Germany for some years. She is German, he’s Australian. They were trying to tell me about life there currently, with particular reference to the Muslims. And both of them obviously had opinions that they couldn’t express directly. They were afraid to say what they thought. To me, someone as politically incorrect as you could find.

    I found it scary. They had feelings that had been suppressed by the culture and couldn’t bring themselves to utter. Not a happy couple.

    I wonder how common this sort of thing is in contemporary Europe. So many people seem to be brainwashed, some fighting it, some taking comfort in it. It’s like living in 1984. The book or movie, not the date.

  210. Tel

    Remember, this is from the same cockhead that was enthralled with the Sydney to Hobart yacht race. Go figure.

    True… but mostly because of the Perry Mason scene right at the end.

  211. Geriatric Mayfly

    Lead story on Ten News: child care workers to demand same salary as engineers.

    Over Yassy’s dead body, will they ever succeed. We must maintain standards.

  212. Tel

    http://www.breitbart.com/video/2017/12/28/marie-harf-strategy-led-defeat-isis-laid-obama-administration/

    Wednesday on Fox News Channel’s “The Five,” former Obama State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf said the “strategy” that led ISIS’s defeat was “laid out during the Obama administration by military commanders.”

    The strategy was laid out by Putin and happened DESPITE the Obama administration.

    What the current strategy is with the Kurds is anyone’s guess, but perhaps that’s the general idea… to keep everyone guessing.

  213. nemkat

    Shorter jupes:
    yeah, i never saw Chappell or Lawry bat, but i can do an internet search.

  214. Peter Castieau

    Oco,
    Regarding the dinner table, that’s how it was in our place. And their is no other way IMHO.

    Cheers

  215. JC

    This is why the franchise looks fucked.

    The Women Who Run the ‘Star Wars’ Universe
    By NATHALIA HOLT DEC. 22, 2017

    Kathleen Kennedy founded the group in 2012 when she succeeded George Lucas as president of Lucasfilm, putting Kiri Hart, a former film and TV writer, in charge of the unit. Ms. Hart’s first move was to make the story group entirely female, starting with Rayne Roberts and Carrie Beck.

  216. I wonder how common this sort of thing is in contemporary Europe.

    I think it is more common even here in Australia, than most people would admit to, Dr BeauGan.

  217. DrBeauGan

    I just wish I had enough interest in money to care about making tons of it.*

    I’m not interested in money, Delta, I have enough for my simple needs. I could think of interesting things to do with a few hundred billion, but less than that isn’t worth bothering about.

    The attraction is being able to predict what other people are doing and figuring out what they are doing and why they are doing it. Money obtained by trading is just a way of measuring how good you are at predicting people.

  218. Infidel Tiger

    Maybe give up drinking and commenting, Infidel Tiger.
    You’re even more incoherent than is usual.

    You sound like my wife.

  219. Mark A

    DrBeauGan
    #2597042, posted on December 30, 2017 at 6:58 pm

    Dr BG, no time to google at the mo, does this plus 500 work on a PC as well? I have an FX account.

  220. OneWorldGovernment

    I saw Bill Lawry “bat” in about 1966 or 1967 at the MCG in a Shield match, NSW v Vic.

    Went with my little mate ‘Scotty’ and I told him after an hour and half of watching Lawry block the ball, “f*ck this Scotty, I’m out of here as it’s worse than watching grass grow”.

    Never went to another cricket match ever again.

  221. Mark A

    Betting on the dogs that’s why no time.

  222. cohenite

    100 examples of white racism.

    1. Tamarisk trees in Palm Springs, California.
    2. The ice cream truck song.
    3. Credit scores.
    4. Car insurance.
    5. Crime statistics.
    6. Halloween costumes.
    7. Calling Elizabeth Warren “Pocahontas.”
    8. Most of the better Disney movies.
    9. Dr. Seuss.
    10. White flight.
    11. Reversing white flight.
    12. White chefs who make burritos.
    13. Milk.
    14. Tanning.
    15. NFL owners.
    16. Being mad about NFL national anthem protests.
    17. Mathematics. (See also here.)
    18. Science.
    19. Yale requiring English students to study Chaucer and Shakespeare.
    20. All white people.
    21. Proper English grammar.
    22. Patriotism.
    23. The iPhone X’s facial recognition technology.
    24. Makeup.
    25. Emoji.
    26. Amy Schumer.
    27. To Kill a Mockingbird.
    28. The SAT.
    29. Military camouflage.
    30. Electronic music.
    31. The August solar eclipse.
    32. Bitcoin.
    33. The “okay” sign.
    34. Having a white person box against a black person.
    35. The pornographic industry.
    36. Apu from The Simpsons.
    37. The white nuclear family.

  223. The attraction is being able to predict what other people are doing and figuring out what they are doing and why they are doing it.

    There are a lot of people who bet on the ponies for much the same reason. They’re not really into horse racing itself, and they don’t bet enough for it to be about money. It’s the challenge of identifying the potential winner.

  224. cohenite

    The attraction is being able to predict what other people are doing and figuring out what they are doing and why they are doing it.

    You’re married, aren’t you? How did that prediction work out?

  225. dopey

    Smith has an interesting technique of moving across in front of the stumps. I think Geoff Boycott did something similar. I reckon Richard Hadlee at his best would fancy bowling to Smith.

  226. jupes

    I reckon Richard Hadlee at his best would fancy bowling to Smith.

    Hadlee’s a wanker.

  227. DrBeauGan

    Dr BG, no time to google at the mo, does this plus 500 work on a PC as well? I have an FX account.

    I’m not sure, but I put a friend in touch with the company and he got something equivalent on his pc.

    I do wonder what the tax situation is with profits made from playing forex. It looks awfully like gambling on horses to me, and I have a vague notion that gambling gains aren’t taxed. Or is that only casinos?

  228. Joe

    I do wonder what the tax situation is with profits made from playing forex.

    Unless you are a company, pretty much everything is either a capital gain or income. Only certain classes of investment are deemed capital gains. All income (capital gains or not) is taxable.

  229. Mark A

    DrBeauGan
    #2597053, posted on December 30, 2017 at 7:10 pm

    Dr BG, no time to google at the mo, does this plus 500 work on a PC as well? I have an FX account.

    I’m not sure, but I put a friend in touch with the company and he got something equivalent on his pc.

    I do wonder what the tax situation is with profits made from playing forex. It looks awfully like gambling on horses to me, and I have a vague notion that gambling gains aren’t taxed. Or is that only casinos?

    Gambling on horse racing and h digs and probably casino are not taxed. If they were then your losses would be tax deductible.
    You can apply for a professional status if you are in the big league in racing, but not worth the hassle as you can only deduct expenses.

  230. DrBeauGan

    You’re married, aren’t you? How did that prediction work out?

    I have been married. Twice. I’m trying to give it up.

    I got married both times while in the state of temporary insanity called being in love, and my brain was in lock-down at the time. So it’s unreasonable to ask for any predictions made under those conditions to be of any value.

  231. Mark A

    that would be ‘the dogs‘ races coming quick and fast now have to concentrate

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