Open Forum: December 30, 2017

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  1. Baldrick

    Boris
    #2598888, posted on January 2, 2018 at 4:03 am
    Cats regularly claim to know the beliefs of ‘common’ Australian voter but what that is they don’t explain. Yet the PM is the PM because voters have put him there, though with compulsory voting this includes all voters, both common and uncommon, whatever that is. The majority of voters clearly thought he was a lesser evil than any other candidate, including but not limited to leaders of ALP, PHON, Greens etc. etc,

    It’s not just Cat regulars Comrade Boris.

  2. calli

    All the best for today, Mike.

  3. Mater

    Mike,
    Sincerely mate, good luck!

  4. Baldrick

    Tom
    #2598893, posted on January 2, 2018 at 5:04 am
    Michael Ramirez #3.

    Chuckle, quack, snort.
    Thanks for your early morning postings Tom, throughout the year.
    Nothing like starting the day with a smile.
    Much appreciated this end.

  5. calli

    The PM is elected by his party.

  6. Mike of Marion

    Eyrie
    #2598900, posted on January 2, 2018 at 6:26 am

    The USAF used to have an idiot B52 pilot that pulled that trick at airshows – it got him in the end.

  7. Empire GTHO Phase III

    Eyrie
    #2598900, posted on January 2, 2018 at 6:26 am

    Given the “affordability” of angle-of-attack systems now days, how soon before CASA mandates AOA indicator with aural warning for Part 135 ops?

    Re the argument that spin recovery training is ineffective, one old dog I know reckons the issue is that they should be teaching spin recognition, during manoeuvring. He tells the story of running into an ag pilot he had trained ab initio years before, in a country pub. The ag pilot bought him a jug and said “that’s for ‘top rudder!’, it saved my life”. He was flying Beavers for SuperSpread.

  8. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Thanks for the toons, Tom.

    You’re in our thoughts here today, Mike of M.
    xx

  9. Baldrick

    Hamas – ‘heroes’ / Israelis – humiliating ‘right-wingers’.

    Israel charges a 16-year-old Palestinian with assault for punching an Israeli soldier in the face two weeks ago, in an incident which made her a hero for Palestinians and was seen as humiliating by right-wing Israelis.
    Israel has held Ahed Tamimi since arresting her three days after she was filmed punching the soldier at the entrance to her family home in a village in the occupied West Bank.

    Via TheirABC, of course.

  10. min

    Problem in Vic is the LNP are kept out of th media . Jonn Pesutto is out there Opp Attorney General seldom on Tv or news . Heard him on 2GB presents and argues well but what else can he do?

    In Bocca al Lupo Mike usually good luck for students in Italy but as it means in the mouth of the wolf
    Seems appropriate for you Mike.

  11. classical_hero

    Ahed Tamini must be transaged, if she is a teenager. A few years ago she was 13 years old, which would make her 18 or 19 right now, not 16.

  12. Bruce of Newcastle

    Israel has held Ahed Tamimi since arresting her three days after she was filmed punching the soldier

    If she did that here she’d quite possibly get gaol time for assault. So why the difference? It’s a mystery.

    It isn’t really a mystery, but I’m mystified why the Left thinks it is such a good thing to assault and vilify the people who are trying to keep us from harm. In Baltimore a pastor has just asked the police “please come back all is forgiven”:

    Baltimore Pastor On The City’s Homicide Rate: We Need Police To Come Back

    After the Freddie Gray fiasco the murder rate in Baltimore has been rivalling parts of Syria and Venezuela. Yet the Left still champions the criminals of the BLM mob. Well good luck getting the police to do their job in your city lefty kiddies, you had your chance. I’m sad for the pastor and his congregation though.

  13. Jonn Pesutto is out there Opp Attorney General seldom on Tv or news . Heard him on 2GB presents and argues well but what else can he do?

    You say he “presents and argues well”. So he plays the game. He needs to stop playing the game.
    The game is rigged, and cannot be won by anybody not prepared to mouth the approved script.
    If he appeared on 2GB and said “once elected we will round up these Apex animals, put them in a small holding yard and let 20 of our biggest, meanest cops teach them manners, then throw them on a plane with all their family and fly the lot of them back to whatever shithole they crawled out of”, he would get all the publicity under the sun.

    And votes. People are sick of the game.

  14. lotocoti

    Via TheirABC, of course.

    To be fair, Balders, it’s from Reuters.
    Which is why they’re right-wing Israelis, not Neo-Nazi Israelis.

  15. Boambee John

    Given his recent obsession with Wussians in Indonesia, this is for test pattern.

    Discussion of the possible cause of the air crash in the Hawkesbury reminded me of an incident in the 1980s (iirc).

    A Soviet Tu-95 Bear was keeping watch on a USN carrier group. There is a sequence of it doing a banking turn fairly low down. Something went wrong, one wing dipped in the water, and the aircraft did cartwheels before breaking up and splashing in.

    It might still be on You Tube, for those interested.

  16. Eyrie

    Mike of Marion and Empire, yep Tony Kern (aviation safety expert) calls what the B52 pilot did “normalisation of deviance”. Nobody in the system grounded the fool before he finally killed himself and crew.
    Yeah “top rudder “. I must have more than 1000 hours, maybe 1500 doing steep turns close to the stall. Only once did the glider bite and I was ready as I was trying to see how tight I could turn before it did. I did it twice more to confirm and had no more trouble since. That was 50 years ago.

  17. Nick

    If I get time, I’ll post the article from the Age about who is to blame for JB gang violence in Victoria. It’s a hoot of inconsistencies.

  18. calli

    Have you flown in PNG, Eyrie?

  19. Mike of Marion

    John Cadogan (Auto Expert) goes full tilt over the deceit of Australian NCAP rating on the on the new Kia Stinger.

    No punches pulled.

  20. Eyrie

    The Mallard crash in Perth. From 1:10 on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHzQHu9TT6A
    note the similarity to the B52 in the last moments.

  21. Eyrie

    No calli, never a commercial pilot or instructor but closing on 4000 hours in small powered aircraft, gliders and self launching gliders.

  22. John Constantine

    Their turnbull delights so much in the yarragrad Apex Predator no go zones, that he will redouble his unswerving commitment to importing a massive caliphate no go zone.

    Big Australia with deindustrialisation, Balkanization, no go zones and airlifts kg military age third world males that hate Australia is turnbulls reason for living.

  23. calli

    Gliding must be exhilarating. The only non powered flight I’ve ever done is ballooning. Once at dawn over a game park.

  24. calli

    The broomstick doesn’t count. Emergency use only.

  25. Geriatric Mayfly

    then throw them on a plane with all their family and fly the lot of them back to whatever shithole they crawled out of”,

    Generous as we are, we usually give them some pocket money to tide them over when they are reacquainted with their rat holes. Logistics could be a problem with this lot, as cattle appear to be their favoured currency.
    I suppose Foreign Affairs could fund an Antonov full of Herefords, just to get rid of this criminal blight.

  26. Baldrick

    To be fair, Balders, it’s from Reuters.

    True lotocoti, but given taxpayer funded legitimacy by being republished on TheirABC website in all its biased glory, without one contrary opinion.

  27. lotocoti

    You may have missed something, Balders.

  28. stackja

    Boris
    #2598888, posted on January 2, 2018 at 4:03 am

    Name a PM voters have put him there that achieved much? I my memory only Menzies.

  29. Geriatric Mayfly

    Gliding must be exhilarating.
    For a mate of mine it certainly was. He tells of gliding over the veld – best thermals in the world saith he – in an old wood and canvas turnout. He was ensnared by a cumulo-nimbus and quickly found himself in ascension mode tail first, with bits of glider falling in the opposite direction. Higher and higher, with the ever present threat of diminishing Oxygen. Eventually the angry cloud spat him out like a pip, and he somehow managed to bring his jalopy down.

  30. Baldrick

    And speaking of contrary views, TheirABC doesn’t have trouble finding them when they want to:

    Donald Trump lashes out at Pakistan’s ‘lies and deceit’ in one of his first tweets of 2018
    President Donald Trump has said the United States has “foolishly” handed Pakistan more than $US33 billion in aid over the last 15 years while getting nothing in return, and pledged to put a stop to it.
    “They give safe haven to the terrorists we hunt in Afghanistan, with little help. No more!” Mr Trump wrote on Twitter.
    Pakistan’s foreign minister, Khawaja M Asif, wrote on Twitter: “We will respond to President Trump’s tweet shortly inshallah … will let the world know the truth … difference between facts & fiction.”

  31. calli

    “We will respond to President Trump’s tweet shortly inshallah … will let the world know the truth … difference between facts & fiction.”

    Which “truth” would that be? It’s a protection racket.

  32. Empire

    Mike of Marion
    #2598927, posted on January 2, 2018 at 8:37 am
    John Cadogan (Auto Expert) goes full tilt over the deceit of Australian NCAP rating on the on the new Kia Stinger.

    No punches pulled.

    Thanks, Mike. Cadogan now bookmarked. He employs a Trumpian approach to motoj’ism.

  33. Geriatric Mayfly

    President Donald Trump has said the United States has “foolishly” handed Pakistan more than $US33 billion in aid over the last 15 years while getting nothing in return, and pledged to put a stop to it.

    I would have thought that the ABC would see this aid as another example of the U.S.’s economic colonialism and be delighted that is about to be withdrawn. Brownish Muslims, who cannot get their act together, will inevitably take precedence at the ABC over long cherished convictions.

  34. Nick

    For the Age:

    South Sudanese and Somali community leaders believe many of those involved in serious crime are young men who have been released from prison or youth detention without support, and quickly pick up where they left off.

    Hang on, where are all those ‘community groups’ and ‘community spokesmen’ the media can find?

    When they are released, they need to be supported, so they don’t go back again,” Richard Deng, a South Sudanese community spokesman, said. “This is where the problem is.
    “We want to have a structure in place to help these young men who are put in prison, released, and then next day commit crime.”

    Aha! Found one. He’s not suggesting money is a solution at all is he ?

    Ahmed Hassan, a 21-year-old with Somali heritage and director of not-for-profit group Youth Activating Youth, said the young men allegedly involved in the offences had dented community perceptions of all Africans. They used gang names as a cry for attention, he said.

    What a surprise, despite ‘support’ existing, it doesn’t exist. Maybe it needs a little more non profit grease on the wheel.

    The remarks of Judge Jane Campton in sentencing a man in September to two years and nine months jail for two attempted armed robberies neatly outlined the despair at the plight of many young African men. The 22-year-old was born in a Kenyan refugee camp to Sudanese parents, the second-eldest of six children. His first offences were committed as a 16-year-old.

    Strange, many of the Italian migrants we had after the Second World War spent years in refugee camps. They came here, worked and settled down.

    “It’s – it’s a struggle because, um, there’s – it’s just a struggle for me,” he responded.

    Just being a black – black, um, man and yeah, it’s just a struggle. It’s hard but, um, I’m still young, um.”

    So there you have it. They get lenient sentences ‘because black’ and that’s the extent of their excuses in what is modern Melbourne.

  35. Geriatric Mayfly

    Doctors are warning Australians not to be complacent about the dangers of sunburn over summer with skin cancer killing thousands of people each year. Australian Medical Association president Michael Gannon says… The Oz

    At last he is giving politics a rest and talking sense. For how long?

  36. Doctors are warning Australians not to be complacent about the dangers of sunburn over summer with skin cancer killing thousands of people each year. Australian Medical Association president Michael Gannon says… The Oz

    Yeah ladies. Keep the berker on.

  37. Baldrick

    Malcolm Turnbull stokes fresh division in Liberal ranks by flagging plebiscite on republic model

    Wow, who could’ve seen that coming.

  38. Nick

    You just know that the Republic plebiscite came from Lucy and the other grinning ‘betters’ at the dinner table on Xmas Day.

  39. Victoria Police Deputy Commissioner Andrew Crisp said Melbourne did not have a gang problem, and urged the media not to label groups of young thugs as “gangs”.

    Just wow.

  40. Nick

    Ha, so he has no problem in Melbourne having groups of young thugs ? FMD.

  41. H B Bear

    You just know that the Republic plebiscite came from Lucy and the other grinning ‘betters’ at the dinner table on Xmas Day.

    Poor Lord Waffles. Stole the office of PM and still craving the approval of Lucy and Daddy.

  42. That’s it, The mad Mullahs are done.

    Their own security forces are abandoning them.

    What a great start to 2018! Happy new year, Cats.

  43. Victoria Police Deputy Commissioner Andrew Crisp said Melbourne did not have a gang problem, and urged the media not to label groups of young thugs as “gangs”.

    They’re not gangs.

    They’re lone wolves who just happen to be in the same place. At the same time. And know each other. And coordinate.

    But they’re still lone wolves. Just not the lone type of lone wolves, t’is all.

    Non-lone lone wolves. You know it makes sense.

  44. Nick

    If there is a regime change for the better in Iran, I’m putting money down now that the media hails one person for such a triumph. Barack Obama.

  45. cohenite

    U.S. Average Temperature Plummets to 11 deg. F
    January 1st, 2018 by Roy W. Spencer, Ph. D.

    Alarmists say extreme cold is a product of global warming and point to blocking of the Jet Stream or some other bullshit. The Jet Stream is normal. This is cold because nature.

  46. H B Bear

    Well done Mr Janet Albrechtsen and the Lieboral Party. Melbournibad is now Mogadishu-on-the-Yarra and they have almost got the 2PP to 50:50. What a foul and offensive socialist swamp Victoriastan now is.

  47. …lone wolves who just happen to be in the same place

    Must be a book club!

  48. Geriatric Mayfly

    If there is a regime change for the better in Iran, I’m putting money down now that the media hails one person for such a triumph. Barack Obama.

    And H. Clinton (Mrs.) too. All done through the back channels that only the media know about.

  49. Mogadishu-on-the-Yarra and they have almost got the 2PP to 50:50 …

    ALP get 100% of the sudanese/somali vote.

  50. Eyrie

    Regarding sunscreen, scroll to near the end: http://stephanie-on-health.blogspot.com.au/2008/11/sunscreen-and-low-fat-diet-recipe-for.html
    “Since the 1970’s, our country has witnessed a 30-fold increase in the sales of sunscreen products, alongside a 30% increase in deaths from melanoma[24]. You might think that this is just due to cases in the elderly that were caused by bad practices many years ago. However, the incidence of melanoma has been consistently rising in children by about 3% per year since the 1970’s”

  51. GM;

    Generous as we are, we usually give them some pocket money to tide them over when they are reacquainted with their rat holes. Logistics could be a problem with this lot, as cattle appear to be their favoured currency.

    The big issue here is that when we give them money, all those who gather to welcome the planeload of now-very-wealthy people, may not be friends and family.
    Still can’t see the downside, but.

  52. stackja

    Geriatric Mayfly
    #2598959, posted on January 2, 2018 at 10:05 am
    If there is a regime change for the better in Iran, I’m putting money down now that the media hails one person for such a triumph. Barack Obama.

    And H. Clinton (Mrs.) too. All done through the back channels that only the media know about.

    Analysis by media

  53. Leigh Lowe

    Regarding the sea-plane spear in …
    (1) Fuel exhaustion/contamination or other power fail unlikely. Should be able to easily execute forced landing in that event;
    (2) Weight and balance? Maybe not. The passengers were not a footy team and I doubt he was carrying baggage. Having said that I know nothing of the aircraft type configured with floats;
    (3) It is a sightseeing operation. Low and slow with tight turns around points of interest would be what the punters want at certain spots, so stall seems a possibility;
    (4) Pilot had 10,000 hours but a lot in Canada. Engines and aerodynamic surfaces perform a lot better in the cold. Is it possible he had got a bit used to flying on the margins but couldn’t recover in warm conditions? Who knows. But having a wing drop into a turn at 200 ft is not ideal.

  54. thefrolickingmole

    Turnbulls father… Hitler or worse than Hitler?
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jan/01/man-drowns-nsw-central-coast-swimming-brother

    Shades of Rudds “we stayed in a car” bulltish..

    An emotional Malcolm Turnbull has recounted how his father saved him from drowning in Bondi’s surf, as he announced $3m in funding for water safety.

    The prime minister, dressed down in a polo shirt and suffering from a summer cold, told those gathered at the Bondi surf club it was New Year’s Day and therefore necessarily casual, as he spoke of the importance of surf and water safety.

    Talking about the work of surf lifesavers and the need to follow directions, Turnbull held back tears as he remembered his own near-death experience as a child.

    “I have spent much of my young life on this beach, it looks very placid today and it generally is, it is a safe beach I would say, compared to many others,” he said.

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    “But you can get into plenty of trouble here, at Bondi.

    “I remember as a kid, just off Ben Buckler [point] here, falling off my surfer plane and getting into a lot of … I was in plenty of trouble and I can still see, it is hard to talk about this without being a bit emotional, but I can still see my father swimming through the surf.

    “Swimming through. And he got me.

    “And that is what lifesavers do.”

  55. lotocoti

    But having a wing drop into a turn at 200 ft is not ideal.

    If the “down” wing quits flying, nobody recovers from a snap roll at 200′.

  56. Geriatric Mayfly

    The Israelis have had their eye on Iran’s nuclear facilities for a long time. A quick raid may add some spice to the current instability. Depends, I suppose, on how the Iranian street would react.

  57. Nick

    “But you can get into plenty of trouble here, at Bondi.

    Surely he’s talking about gangs, erm, groups of young thugs?
    Nope. It was falling off his surfer plane. Times have changed and he doesn’t realise why.

  58. stackja

    Labor MPs warn voters will punish the Andrews Government if it does not tackle gang crime
    Tom Minear, Genevieve Alison and James Dowling, Herald Sun
    January 1, 2018 8:00pm
    Subscriber only

    “If we go to the next election and this African gang violence issue is still running … we’re stuffed,” the MP told the Herald Sun on Monday.

    “The voters are scared, and we have to act to get on top of this or they will smash us in November.”

    Evidence emerged before Christmas of a new street gang, the Menace to Society, which has been linked to rampages in Tarneit and Werribee.

    And police officers have been warned by superiors about African teens trying to lure them into ambushes.

    Recent internal Labor research has identified violent youth crime as a critical election issue, particularly in Melbourne’s outer suburbs. Female voters are seen to be especially concerned about the problem.

    Another Labor source said the research had hit the Premier’s office “like a brick” over Christmas.

    The Herald Sun understands concern is emerging within Labor’s caucus that the seats of Tarneit, Melton, Cranbourne, Narre Warren North and Narre Warren South are at risk.

  59. Geriatric Mayfly

    The Herald Sun understands concern is emerging within Labor’s caucus that the seats of Tarneit, Melton, Cranbourne, Narre Warren North and Narre Warren South are at risk.

    For those outside Danograd these are Melbournistan’s dress circle suburbs.

  60. stackja

    incoherent rambler
    #2598965, posted on January 2, 2018 at 10:21 am
    This thread is from last year!

    2018
    Posted on 12:00 am, January 1, 2018 by Sinclair Davidson

  61. H B Bear

    KRudd and Waffleworth are both highly defective narcissists. Gillard was a psychopathic union ganster’s moll. Abbott is filled with Catholic guilt.

    All flawed but in different ways.

  62. stackja

    Liberty Quote
    Very few people, even among environmentalists, have truly faced up to what the science is telling us.

    This is because the implications of 3C, let alone 4C or 5C, are so horrible that we look to any possible scenario to head it off, including the canvassing of “emergency” responses such as the suspension of democratic processes.

    — Clive Hamilton

  63. H B Bear

    Almost by definition “normal” people are incapable of rising to the top in politics.

  64. stackja

    H B Bear
    #2598973, posted on January 2, 2018 at 10:35 am
    KRudd and Waffleworth are both highly defective narcissists. Gillard was a psychopathic union ganster’s moll. Abbott is filled with Catholic guilt.

    All flawed but in different ways.

    We are ‘All flawed but in different ways.’

  65. H B Bear

    We are ‘All flawed but in different ways.’

    Yeah but we don’t all have the full apparatus of the State to project it onto everyone else.

  66. Bruce of Newcastle

    Regarding the sea-plane spear in

    Engine new, only 200 hours on it according to 7 news last evening.
    Just about long enough for a mechanical failure?

  67. thefrolickingmole

    “The voters are scared, and we have to act to get on top of this or they will smash us in November.”

    No the voters are angry.
    Angry that they pay money to the government to provide basic functions so they dont have to do things themselves.
    One of the core ones is protection from criminals.

    What needs to be spelled out to any enterprising and innovative youth gangs is the police are there to protect them from vigilante justice.
    No organised police force means punishments are generally corporal and immediate, and not mitigated by your own personal baggage.
    Clips abound on the net of 3rd world shopkeepers brutalizing those caught stealing, thats the “norm” if you want to take your whole “fuck the police” to its ultimate conclusion.

  68. mizaris

    Alarmists say extreme cold is a product of global warming and point to blocking of the Jet Stream or some other bullshit. The Jet Stream is normal. This is cold because nature.

    Sun night on sbs (surprise, shock) – doco called Earth from Space. Totally brilliant in showing how old mother Gaia had been functioning for a few million years, and would probably continue quite happily, even though earthlings had chopped down trees. And the effect of the nearest star on the old girl. It made current claims of AGW sound a bit silly. Not sure how it got through the censors.

  69. stackja

    H B Bear
    #2598975, posted on January 2, 2018 at 10:36 am
    Almost by definition “normal” people are incapable of rising to the top in politics.

    How many ‘normal’ people can handle rising to the top in politics? DT is ‘different’?

  70. H B Bear

    Clips abound on the net of 3rd world shopkeepers brutalizing those caught stealing, thats the “norm” if you want to take your whole “fuck the police” to its ultimate conclusion.

    Mogadishu Neighbourhood watch.

  71. Nick

    No the voters are angry

    But they will still vote Labour.

  72. Viva

    But they’re still lone wolves.

    …..with mental health issues.

  73. DrBeauGan

    How many ‘normal’ people can handle rising to the top in politics? DT is ‘different’?

    Yes, Trump is different. He is morally tough and most politicians are morally squishes

    There are two distinguishing features of moral toughness. The first is self respect. The morally tough individual cares a lot about how they think of themselves, not so much what others think of them. The squish needs the approval of others, the tough needs the approval of himself.

    The second feature is that when something bad comes along the tough person confronts it and the squish hides under the bed or pretends it isn’t there. See m0nty for an example of a moral squish.

    The way our political system is set up, squishes win.

  74. Dr Faustus

    Victoria Police Deputy Commissioner Andrew Crisp said Melbourne did not have a gang problem, and urged the media not to label groups of young thugs as “gangs”.

    Policing success is all in the language.

    What is the VicPol-Speak collective noun for “groups of young thugs”?
    Does Melbourne have a Assemblies-That-Must-Not-Be-Named problem?

  75. Mike of Marion
    #2598927, posted on January 2, 2018 at 8:37 am
    John Cadogan (Auto Expert) goes full tilt over the deceit of Australian NCAP rating

    I’d love to see a similar “full tilt” approach in Australian politics!

  76. H B Bear

    VicPol, Australia’s most politicised police force, just doing what they do best.

  77. Tom

    Geriatric Mayfly
    #2598968, posted on January 2, 2018 at 10:29 am
    The Israelis have had their eye on Iran’s nuclear facilities for a long time. A quick raid may add some spice to the current instability. Depends, I suppose, on how the Iranian street would react.

    Bibi is much better off to sit back and watch social media — now a reckless and uncontrollable force that barely existed during the last uprising in 2009, when Obambi sided with the Tehran regime — destroy the mad mullahs. Even the so-far-silent communist/socialist Euroscum (Merkel/Macron/May) will be forced to take Trump’s side eventually (and his political instincts are impeccable as usual).

    Bombing Iran or sending in the Israeli commandos would simply reunite the Iranian protest movement with the mad mullahs against the external enemy.

  78. Bruce of Newcastle

    Feed the man meat!

    Meat eaters ‘have more sex than vegetarians’ (* Drudge’s version of the headline 😀 )

    Vegetarians may like to claim they lead healthier lives, but it seems there is one area where they are missing out – in the bedroom.

    A survey suggests that 42 per cent of those who eat meat at least once a day have sex once a week or more.

    But the figure drops to only 16 per cent for vegetarians and those who are defined as ‘reluctant carnivores’ who eat meat only once a fortnight.

    Broken down by country, the Welsh were the top of the carnal carnivore charts, with 49 per cent who ate meat every day reporting that they had sex one or more times every week.

    They were followed by the English on 46 per cent and the Scots on 40 per cent.

    Maybe there’s a psychological reason the Scots liked those very large and manly claymores so much.

  79. stackja

    DrBeauGan
    #2598985, posted on January 2, 2018 at 10:57 am
    The way our political system is set up, squishes win.

    Voters accept squishes?

  80. Dr Faustus

    Peter Fitzsimons connects with the public zeitgeist on the Republic debate:

    “Yes, there will be opponents, but I actually think the idea that, 250 years after Captain Cook landed, Australians coming together to work out the final step to true independence under the Southern Cross; as enjoyed by the First Peoples ; could be a wonderfully unifying exercise, and precisely what we need!”

    Yes, a Republic “as enjoyed by the First Peoples” is indeed precisely what we need.

    It is critical to Australia’s debt-rich, NDIS-fairness future that this amazing man is appointed to the Presidential Selection Committee.

  81. Went for a stroll through beautiful West Heidelberg (home of the white van) before Christmas.
    What did I notice in almost every house yard?
    Rottweilers, German Shepherds, Staffies, Pit Bulls, Ridgebacks, Heelers …

    No Dobermans.

  82. hzhousewife

    Does Melbourne have a Assemblies-That-Must-Not-Be-Named problem?

    Yeah, the Freemasons apparently.

  83. DrBeauGan

    Voters accept squishes?

    Yes. Look at Candy and her assessment of Turnbull and Beazley. She’s your average voter.

    That’s a third difference. The tough sees what is there, the squish sees what he wants to see. Or she.

  84. Dr Faustus

    Broken down by country, the Welsh were the top of the carnal carnivore charts, with 49 per cent who ate meat every day reporting that they had sex one or more times every week.

    Lamb.
    Love what you eat…

  85. PoliticoNT

    Meanwhile – XYZ have a funny poll running on the Safe Schools nonsense. See –

    https://www.xyz.net.au/viewer-poll-safe-schools/

  86. John Constantine

    Without the two million or so voters imported into Melbourne to transform it into yarragrad after the Two Towers went down, their Andrews Nazgul would be ashes.

    Import the voteherds for fairness, and equality, and Stalin.

    Comrades.

  87. precisely what we need

    What do you mean “we”, Kemo Sabe?

  88. C.L.

    Another punctuation masterclass from FitzSimons.

    Yes, there will be opponents, but I actually think the idea that, 250 years after Captain Cook landed, Australians coming together to work out the final step to true independence under the Southern Cross; as enjoyed by the First Peoples ; could be a wonderfully unifying exercise, and precisely what we need!

  89. thefrolickingmole

    C.L.

    I wish you hadnt, pointed that out, now it grates: on my eyes like; ground glass.

  90. But they will still vote Labour.

    Because VIC schools are “safe”?

  91. Infidel Tiger

    Geriatric Mayfly
    #2598968, posted on January 2, 2018 at 10:29 am
    The Israelis have had their eye on Iran’s nuclear facilities for a long time. A quick raid may add some spice to the current instability. Depends, I suppose, on how the Iranian street would react.

    That would be the top of the list of stupidest possible things to do.

    The revolution would be over instantly and all power solidified behind the mullahs for eternity.

  92. BrettW

    Whilst I agree with Trumps thoughts in his Tweet about Pakistan you do have to wonder if he actually discusses such Tweets with Sec of State etc before he makes them.

  93. Marcus

    “Yes, there will be opponents, but I actually think the idea that, 250 years after Captain Cook landed, Australians coming together to work out the final step to true independence under the Southern Cross; as enjoyed by the First Peoples ; could be a wonderfully unifying exercise, and precisely what we need!”

    And with a condescending, illiterate, loudmouth like Fitzy leading the charge; how divisive, could it be?

    Of course, we don’t need to become a republic to enjoy the same level of independence the “First Peoples” had. All we have to do is refuse to recognise the nation state as a concept, abandon our mortgages and pledge our loyalties to our extended families before anyone else. You know, just like modern Gypsy tribes, or the Hell’s Angels bikies.

  94. John Constantine

    Obviously, community policing of no go zones is the future for yarragrad.

    Let the religious police patrol the caliphate no go zone, and special tribal cultural constables patrol the apex predator no go zones and pay the big Men the big dollars to keep it all quiet in the run up to the election.

    The bribes we pay to our imported Big Men are our strength.

    It is the New Normal.

    Comrades.

  95. Makka

    Turdball will roll out any distraction squirrel to avoid addressing what really matters in this country; stopping the immigration ponzi scheme , reducing Govt spending and cutting taxes.

  96. stackja

    BrettW
    #2599005, posted on January 2, 2018 at 11:22 am
    Whilst I agree with Trumps thoughts in his Tweet about Pakistan you do have to wonder if he actually discusses such Tweets with Sec of State etc before he makes them.

    State has achieved what with Pakistan? DT offers Pakistan a choice.

  97. twostix

    “Yes, there will be opponents, but I actually think the idea that, 250 years after Captain Cook landed, Australians coming together to work out the final step to true independence under the Southern Cross; as enjoyed by the First Peoples ; could be a wonderfully unifying exercise, and precisely what we need!”

    Lol.

    We should be more like 1788 era abos.

  98. twostix

    Australias first step to independence will come when we unshackle ourselves from the fitzsimmons nationless urban bugman class which seeks to rule us.

  99. Stimpson J. Cat

    Israel charges a 16-year-old Palestinian with assault for punching an Israeli soldier in the face two weeks ago, in an incident which made her a hero for Palestinians and was seen as humiliating by right-wing Israelis.

    Look this is fair enough.
    If it’s OK to punch Nazis it’s OK to punch J$ws.

  100. We should be more like 1788 era abos.

    What a cruel blow for Fitzy.
    There were no red bandanas in Australia in 1788.

  101. Roger

    …I actually think the idea that, 250 years after Captain Cook landed, Australians coming together to work out the final step to true independence under the Southern Cross

    Freedom wears a crown.

  102. Bruce of Newcastle

    Whilst I agree with Trumps thoughts in his Tweet about Pakistan you do have to wonder if he actually discusses such Tweets with Sec of State etc before he makes them.

    Maybe the idea is to so demoralize the swampies in State that they will abandon ship like their colleagues at the EPA.

    Delingpole: Christmas Is Here, Everyone! EPA Officials Are ‘Leaving in Droves’

  103. jupes

    Their turnbull delights so much in the yarragrad Apex Predator no go zones, that he will redouble his unswerving commitment to importing a massive caliphate no go zone.

    This of course is the perfect comeback for Andrews, however unfortunately for him he is too politically correct to use it.

  104. Roger

    National database proposed as remedy for African gang violence.

    What about trying appropriate sentencing followed by deportation first?

  105. Boambee John

    Nick
    #2598954, posted on January 2, 2018 at 9:59 am
    If there is a regime change for the better in Iran, I’m putting money down now that the media hails one person for such a triumph. Barack Obama.

    Could have happened 8 years ago.

    The blood of all those killed on the orders of the mullahs, in Iran and by Iranian sponsored terrorisism around the world, is on Obama’s hands.

    As will be the blood of any killed in any future Iranian nuclear attack.

  106. Stimpson J. Cat

    Bombing Iran or sending in the Israeli commandos would simply reunite the Iranian protest movement with the mad mullahs against the external enemy.

    The Middle East can only be saved by Muslims.
    No one else can do it.
    It’s all up to the Saudi’s.
    Israel just needs to wait it out.
    And be nice to the Goyim.

  107. From XYZ:
    Should the parents of innocent children exposed to the perversions of Safe Schools be able to publicly hang those responsible?

    Can we bring our own rope? (39%, 125 Votes)
    Yes (28%, 89 Votes)
    Absolutely (18%, 57 Votes)
    As long as there’s a Royal Commission too, that’s a yes from me. (15%, 48 Votes)

  108. Boambee John

    Clips abound on the net of 3rd world shopkeepers brutalizing those caught stealing, thats the “norm” if you want to take your whole “fuck the police” to its ultimate conclusion.

    The population of Baltimore are in the process of discovering this, with a rapidly escalating murder rate.

  109. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    Turdball will roll out any distraction squirrel to avoid addressing what really matters in this country; stopping the immigration ponzi scheme , reducing Govt spending and cutting taxes.

    That would include not funding his massive Snowy battery and building a couple of new coal-fired power plants, which is the only way our power issues will be successfully and economically resolved.

  110. Boambee John

    mizaris at 1040

    Not sure how it got through the censors.

    Rats sniffing the breeze, and starting to desert the sinking CAGW ship?

  111. calli

    as enjoyed by the First Peoples

    Subsistence is freedom!

    Fitzy’s pining for a spell at Nimbin. Off ya go, Sunshine.

  112. Bruce of Newcastle

    The Middle East can only be saved by Muslims.
    No one else can do it.
    It’s all up to the Saudi’s.

    ROFL.
    Let me think about that a little bit.
    Ok. ROFLMAO! That works better.

    Saudi Arabia, UAE introduce VAT in first for Gulf (yesterday)

    Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates introduced value-added tax from Monday, a first for the Gulf. Saudi Arabia also announced a hike of up to 127 percent in petrol prices with immediate effect from midnight.

    They are so skint because of competition with American oilmen that they now are bringing in a GST.
    That will go down awesomely with the pampered Arab street.

  113. calli

    urban bugman class

    I’m stealing that.

  114. Can we bring our own rope? (39%, 125 Votes)

    Disappointing.
    The Tumbril Operators Association deplore lynch mobs which tend not to use licensed tumbrils.

  115. Roger

    They are so skint because of competition with American oilmen that they now are bringing in a GST.

    There’s no doubt their oil revenues are down but with a sovereign wealth fund of c. US$500bn they’re hardly skint.

  116. 41C forecast for Dannograd on Saturday.

    An interesting test of power supplies.

  117. Stimpson J. Cat

    ROFL.
    Let me think about that a little bit.
    Ok. ROFLMAO! That works better.

    When you’ve stopped laughing let me know who else can save the Middle East Bruce.
    In your own time.
    Hint : It’s not Jesus.

  118. When you’ve stopped laughing let me know who else can save the Middle East Bruce.

    It can’t be saved. Only glassed.

  119. Leigh Lowe

    Mogadishu Neighbourhood watch.

    They don’t watch.
    They do.

  120. Joe

    US$500bn they’re hardly skint.

    $500bn/33,335,000 = $14,999 each. Where the pop of SA is 33,335,000 from wiki. Not sure how long that would last.

  121. Roger

    Obama the traitor:

    The Obama White House stymied a DEA investigation into Hezbollah’s international drug smuggling and money laundering operations so as not to put Iran off side during nuclear negotiations.

    Iran regarded Hezbollah’s activities exporting heroin and cocaine into the US from central and south America as a means to undermine American society.

    Over time, the drug operation became a greater source of funding for Hezbollah than Iranian sponsorship.

    RTWT

  122. Oh come on

    A little trip down memory lane, back to Obama’s glory days in 2010.

    So here is one of Atlanta’s finest worrying about the environmental impact of too many Marines being based on Guam (skip to ~1min mark). Well done to the Admiral testifying, whose response started off with an ‘uhhhhh’ which was commendably short.

    But it’s okay! The congresscritter claims it was all just jokes! Hank Johnson there, putting the dead into deadpan humour.

    If you don’t have the time, here’s a short animated version of what Hank Johnson fears will happen to Guam.

  123. Bruce of Newcastle

    When you’ve stopped laughing let me know who else can save the Middle East Bruce.
    In your own time.

    Ask a son of Islam: Agha Shahid Ali
    He’s quoting Calgacus.

  124. Stimpson J. Cat

    It can’t be saved. Only glassed.

    Don’t talk like that about Israel.
    It’s racist.
    Never again, remember.

  125. Stimpson J. Cat

    Ask a son of Islam: Agha Shahid Ali
    He’s quoting Calgacus.

    No I’m asking you, not Ethnics.
    Straight answer please.

  126. Oh come on

    The Democrat Party is indeed the party of science.

  127. Oh come on

    Ask a son of Islam: Agha Shahid Ali
    He’s quoting Calgacus.

    For some reason, I read that as he’s quitting calculus.

  128. Roger

    Not sure how long that would last.

    The return on their investments, including US Treasury bonds, subsidises their revenue stream.

    The Saudis underwrite a significant amount of US govt debt, so it’s not in US interests for the Saudi economy to tank, hence American assistance to them to diversify their economy.

    With such diversification, the Saudi plan is to increase the fund to US$1 trillion by 2030.

  129. Stimpson J. Cat

    For some reason, I read that as he’s quitting calculus.

    I always hated Calculus.
    The speech in Braveheart is better too.

  130. struth

    MAGJO

    Make Australia Great Just Once.

    Please.

    I think Australia could tip over (Democrat science) if we import any more people.

    FMD, who wasn’t in awe at that video.
    Please tell me he was as high as a kite.

  131. Bruce of Newcastle

    Do learn some history Stimpy.
    There is no answer in the Middle East that includes Islam, and since Islam is not going away anytime soon there therefore is no way it can be saved*.

    * Matthew 19:26 **
    ** I just ignored your stricture. 😀

  132. Arky

    Thanks, Mike. Cadogan now bookmarked. He employs a Trumpian approach to motoj’ism.

    ..
    Comes across to me as a total c***.

  133. Stimp, I’m thinking of roller blade themed park where your can skate from Baghdad to Tripoli on a flat glassed surface.

  134. Ellen of Tasmania

    Should the parents of innocent children exposed to the perversions of Safe Schools be able to publicly hang those responsible?

    If the parents know what’s happening and they still send their innocent children off to such institutions, then the parents are responsible.

  135. Stimpson J. Cat

    Do learn some history Stimpy.
    There is no answer in the Middle East that includes Islam, and since Islam is not going away anytime soon there therefore is no way it can be saved*.

    Godsquad Confirmed!

    OK Bruce.

  136. Tom

    41C forecast for Dannograd on Saturday.

    Off to the local Target this arvo for a bigger pedestal fan. Cheap as chips (Thanks, China!)

    Hey, Xi, me old China: arrange a tragic accident for that Noko clown and you’ll be able to sell lots more cheap shit to us running dogs, mmkay?

  137. Mike of Marion

    Arky
    #2599058, posted on January 2, 2018 at 12:49 pm

    Good

    C***s are useful

  138. feelthebern

    Rose Bowl goes to extra time for the first time ever.
    True freshman Jake Fromm (19 years old) led Georgia in one hell of a fightback.
    Apart from winning a super bowl, it’s every young American mans dream.

  139. feelthebern

    When will the idiots in the West learn?
    Iran needs to be a managed transition, like China.
    The last thing the Iranians need is a Iraq, Libya, or Russian style change.
    You have to go slow to go fast.

  140. Bruce of Newcastle

    to diversify their economy

    Roger – I’ve watched Saudi attempt to diversify their economy for the last three decades. They’ve tried copper mines, gold mining, titanium dioxide production, manufacturing and other stuff using oil or gas. Every thoughtbubble popped rapidly, except perhaps fertilizer production which has been fairly good.

    Meanwhile two thirds of the population works for the government and another eighth is unemployed.
    That is so unsustainable you wonder how they’ve lasted this long.

  141. Arky

    C***s are useful

    ..
    Yeah, but terrible attitudes.

  142. Iran needs to be a managed transition, like China.

    Park satellites over Tehran and Abadan and provide unfettered access to the Internet.

    Then wait.

  143. feelthebern

    The Saudi’s are the source of all that is evil in the world.
    A few nukes dropped on that shit hole would be a good start.

  144. Mike of Marion

    Arky
    #2599070, posted on January 2, 2018 at 1:03 pm

    Touche

  145. Ellen of Tasmania

    Hint : It’s not Jesus.

    Yes, it is.

    Not according to your worldview, of course. I get that, Stimpy.

    Everyone will give an answer based on their own presuppositions, after all.

  146. zyconoclast

    When will the idiots in the West learn?
    Iran needs to be a managed transition, like China.
    The last thing the Iranians need is a Iraq, Libya, or Russian style change.
    You have to go slow to go fast.

    You are right but it won’t go that way.
    It will be more of the same or Iraq, Libya style collapse, cronyism and corruption.

    Iran with a low average IQ of 84 with a tribalistic culture still enthralled by Islam is not the same as China with an IQ of +100.

    Im hoping the current mob stay in charge.
    5 million Darstardlies heading our way will be very bad.

  147. Bruce of Newcastle

    Iran needs to be a managed transition, like China.

    Not going to happen FTB.
    The internet has changed things too much.

    In Persia there could in the past be a managed decline of fervour. People would increasingly ignore or pay lip service to the imams and eventually you could end up like secular Persia before 1979.

    Now the problem is that the Council of Imams can watch everyone through the reach of the internet, the Basij and the IRG. The ambitious know that they can rise via those organisations in the same way that people in the CCCP could rise through the secret police and Party. But now with the internet able to monitor everyone everywhere there’s no way to avoid political Islam in Iran.

    At the same time no leader of a muslim country can overtly abandon or reduce the power of Islam because if they try it some jihadi will assassinate them. Abbas in the West Bank cannot make peace with Israel – if he tried to he’d be dead in a week. Same goes for any other despot in MENA. Sadat is another example – even though he had solid control of the Egyptian Army.

    I can’t think of a worse and more repressive ideology than Islam in all the history of the world, and the modern IT advances are only going to make it even more hideous.

  148. Roger

    The Saudi’s are the source of all that is evil in the world.

    You’re forgetting their Shia twin, Iran.

    Unhappily, the interests of the US & the Saudis have been intimately intertwined since the mid-1970s and Trump appears to be deepening the relationship. Let’s hope he knows what he’s doing.

  149. struth

    The Saudis are lazy warring tribal inbreds.

    Take away their ability to sit on their arses via oil and see the same underachieving mussies as anywhere in the middle east.

  150. feelthebern

    & a true freshmen qb beats the probable #1 nil draft pick & 4 year senior qb in the rose bowl.

  151. feelthebern

    z, not sure where you’re getting that iq number for Iran from.
    I’ve seen reports that show the urban female in Iran has the highest education, iq etc in the middle east outside of israel.
    Happy to be proved wrong.

  152. Macbeth

    For Traveller Lizzy, Muddy and Top Ender, Pipes & Drums of 5/6 RVR (Old Vic Scottish Regiment) will be seen in the 2018 Royal Edinburgh Military Tattoo. They are busy practising and fund raising for the occasion.

  153. H B Bear

    The Saudis are lazy warring tribal inbreds.

    Any progress these goat herders have made is entirely due to Western contractors. Without them they would still be sitting in tents in the sand.

  154. breitbart-
    During the first 11 months of Trump’s presidency, the populist-nationalist president cut the number of foreign refugees entering the U.S. by about 70 percent,

    Can we have a trump here please?

  155. Roger

    At the same time no leader of a muslim country can overtly abandon or reduce the power of Islam because if they try it some jihadi will assassinate them

    Sisi’s plan for reform of Islam in Egypt has succeeded so far; his popularity ratings remain very high.

    Something to watch…

  156. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    NATIONAL BREAKING NEWS
    Qld car crash victim’s phones stolen

    Ed Jackson
    Australian Associated Press
    12:35PM January 2, 2018
    Save

    A man accused of stealing two mobile phones from the hospital room of a man who lost his wife and daughter in a horror Christmas Day car crash has a lengthy criminal history, a court has heard.

    Mark Graham Newstead, 51, faced Southport Magistrates Court on Tuesday charged with nine offences including two counts of stealing.

    Police allege Newstead sneaked into the Princess Alexandra Hospital room of Laurie Tritton over the weekend and stole the phones.

    Mr Tritton and his daughter Tameka are recovering in hospital after the crash on Brisbane’s bayside on December 25 that claimed the lives of his wife Karin and youngest daughter Makayla.

    It’s understood the phones, which have been recovered, belonged to Mr Tritton and his wife and contain photos of the family.

    Newstead is also accused of stealing the wallet of another patient and going on a spending spree.

    From the Oz. Just when you think the human race couldn’t get any lower..

  157. Eyrie

    BoN you are forgetting about communism/socialism. Everything you say about islam and the internet applies to communism/socialism. We have the means to build the perfect surveillance society that Orwell warned us about and it is happening before our eyes and most Australians have no idea that freedom and liberty can exist even if they have heard about them.

  158. Roger

    During the first 11 months of Trump’s presidency, the populist-nationalist president cut the number of foreign refugees entering the U.S. by about 70 percent,

    Can we have a trump here please?

    Not a chance…our previous “right wing” PM and Immigration minister may have stopped the boats but they then presided over a significant increase in our refugee intake as a “dividend” to the Australian people.

  159. DrBeauGan

    I had a box of cigars go walkabout. I emailed the border force people and they said it had been delivered before Christmas. I said it hadn’t. They gave an Australia Post number which I called. After ten minutes waiting I got a human being, a bloke. He said it had been delivered. I said it hadn’t. He emailed me a picture of where the postie had left it. I said that wasn’t my place. It might be next door.

    So I went looking and there it was. Together with a parcel of books also addressed to me and wrongly delivered.

    At least they use the current technology sensibly. The weakness is with the human beans.

  160. Bruce of Newcastle

    Sisi’s plan for reform of Islam in Egypt has succeeded so far; his popularity ratings remain very high.

    True, although he’s been walking a fine line. Especially with the increasing persecution of Coptic Christians.
    His advantage is that Morsi so dirtied the image of political Islam that al-Sisi’s takeover was a relief.
    Morsi also didn’t have time to do what Erdogan has done and Islamified the Army.
    I suspect that observant Egyptian Army officers are being very carefully sidelined. Or made to fight ISIS in the Sinai.

    The Algerian regime is similar to al-Sisi’s. Again they’ve been working off the disgust the hardline Islamists produced by their bloodthirsty revolt. But the Algerian regime is still manifestly Muslim.

  161. feelthebern

    Sisi does all he has to do to keep Washington happy.
    They executed a dozen terrorists the other day.
    But at the same time they let a bunch of them run amok.
    It’s classic talking out of both sides of his mouth.
    Sisi will have to do something about the Christians getting blown up, otherwise a show pony like McCain will start talking “sanctions”.

  162. Bruce of Newcastle

    BoN you are forgetting about communism/socialism. Everything you say about islam and the internet applies to communism/socialism.

    Eyrie – The difference is that Islam is a religion with a hereafter, whereas Marxism doesn’t have that. The Greens are getting more like Islam in this respect but “concern for the grandchildren” is no way as powerful as concern for your own soul. So there’s not the same level of fanaticism about Marxism (or greenery). The Norks are the most extreme version, but the signs are that they will collapse soon. If even their elite border troops are half starved and worm infested then that is not an indication of continued stability.

  163. Eyrie

    BoN I’m talking about the left slide in Australia. Can you see it ever ending?

  164. Mitch M.

    Nicotine, they found, has “significant positive effects” on fine motor skills, the accuracy of short-term memory, some forms of attention, and working memory, among other basic cognitive skills. The improvements “likely represent true performance enhancement” and “beneficial cognitive effects.”

    Makes sense, there is even a receptor for acetylcholine that says it all: nicotinic acetylcholine receptor. Loss of acetylcholine production is a prominent feature in Alzheimer’s. It helps prevent neuro inflammation. As for brain training, the one consistent result is that some computer games improve cognition. If you’ve played these games it is obvious that many computer games make strong demands on our cognition. It appears that the best games for this are first person shooter games. Good, just last night I received an email from GOG advising I can buy Men of War for $1.59!

    namely, that the more you use a circuit, the stronger it gets.

    Which is probably related to “activity dependent myelination”. Myelin is constantly produced and firing neurons ramp up that production.

  165. Bruce of Newcastle

    BoN I’m talking about the left slide in Australia. Can you see it ever ending?

    Oops, sorry. Yes. We’re too apathetic for a Nork-style state here. It just is a question of how far things will decline before there’s a revolt. Thatcher, Argentina or Venezuela are three levels of potential rebellion. I think we’ll do a Thatcher as soon as the Left have screwed Australia sufficiently. So long as they don’t bring in too many muslim shocktroops.

  166. Eyrie

    We do not have a Thatcher nor any Thatcher (or Trump) figures. This is Australia where what is good for me is good and bugger the rest. Hence the desire for more “free” handouts from the government and zero consideration of how they are paid for. The rich ones with a few exceptions are crony capitalists and the senior public servants and public company directors are looting the country.
    We are sooo fvcked.

  167. BoN I’m talking about the left slide in Australia. Can you see it ever ending?

    Liberty and freedom is stolen by leftist government by gradual imposition (e.g. Stalin).
    Freedoms stolen by government are never returned.

    Freedoms are only won back (quickly) via insurrection/revolution.

    The descent into leftism will continue until there is an uprising. (e.g. Trumpism )

  168. thefrolickingmole

    Just a little note.
    A cousin of mine got his dick slammed in the cash register and married an extremely wealthy miners daughter.
    He invited my father to watch Federer play tennis from the private box at the tennis. Dad reported it was interesting to see the networking going on with serious money people, including the head of Shell Australia who dropped in for a chat with the father in law…

  169. Marcus

    True, although he’s been walking a fine line. Especially with the increasing persecution of Coptic Christians.

    I thought the Egyptian legislature was 10% Coptic?

  170. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Josh Barro

    Verified account

    @jbarro
    11h11 hours ago
    More
    There were zero passenger fatalities from commercial passenger jet crashes, anywhere in the world, in 2017.

    I blame Trump.

  171. jupes

    We’re too apathetic for a Nork-style state here.

    Dunno about that Bruce. More likely we’re to apathetic to stop one.

    It just is a question of how far things will decline before there’s a revolt. Thatcher, Argentina or Venezuela are three levels of potential rebellion. I think we’ll do a Thatcher as soon as the Left have screwed Australia sufficiently.

    Well let’s hope so.

    So long as they don’t bring in too many muslim shocktroops.

    Indeed. However there is not the slightest sign that the importation of Muslims will slow down. Libs will keep bringing them in legally then Labs will bring them in illegally.

  172. stackja

    Oh come on
    #2599043, posted on January 2, 2018 at 12:29 pm

    Hank has forgotten about

    Johann de Kalb From Wikipedia

    Henry C. “Hank” Johnson Jr. is the U.S. Representative for Georgia’s 4th congressional district, serving since 2007. He is a member of the Democratic Party. The district is based in DeKalb County, a largely suburban county east of Atlanta. Wikipedia

  173. stackja

    2GB caller mention Maclean storm damage.

  174. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    You are right but it won’t go that way.
    It will be more of the same or Iraq, Libya style collapse, cronyism and corruption.

    Iran with a low average IQ of 84 with a tribalistic culture still enthralled by Islam is not the same as China with an IQ of +100.

    Iran is historically and culturally chalk and cheese with the rest of the Mid East.

    The idea that the 700,000,000 Chinese hoeing paddocks with chopsticks have IQs above 100 is also ridiculous. I’ll back Iran to have a better future than China in the long run any day.

  175. JC

    There were zero passenger fatalities from commercial passenger jet crashes, anywhere in the world, in 2017.

    I blame Trump.

    That’s a pretty incredible stat. Amazing

  176. However there is not the slightest sign that the importation of Muslims will slow down.

    Because both majors think they require the Muslim vote to gain power.

    See the snowball ?

    It gets worse from here.

  177. stackja

    Massive storm rips through Maclean
    2nd Jan 2018 2:07 PM

    A SEVERE storm has caused extensive damage and minor flooding after it ripped through Maclean this afternoon.

    A fallen tree across Hillcrest Road has blocked the main entrance to Townsend, Gulmarrad and Brooms Head.

    The river-side town also experienced flash flooding on River St near Botero’s and throughout the Maclean CBD. Strong winds tore the roof off Clarence Hotel in River St.

    The storm, which hit the Lower Clarence township at about 1.40pm, has been described by residents as a mini tornado.

    Earlier it passed through Grafton, with flooding Bunnings and BCF on Iolanthe St in South Grafton causing long delays for motorists stranded by the floodwaters.

    Trees down on Hillcrest St, Maclean

  178. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    The rich ones with a few exceptions are crony capitalists and the senior public servants and public company directors are looting the country.
    We are sooo fvcked.

    I was talking to some supposedly smart high flyers from the mining and accounting professions over the break who assured me the future was batteries powered by solar power stations.

    They were convinced China had stopped building coal fired power stations and that Germany was now powered 100% by renewables.

    We’re rooted.

  179. Geriatric Mayfly

    incoherent rambler
    #2598993, posted on January 2, 2018 at 11:12 am
    Went for a stroll through beautiful West Heidelberg (home of the white van) before Christmas.
    What did I notice in almost every house yard?

    Thought you were going to comment on the carefully manicured flowerbeds and eye catching topiary. Presuming it’s still there, the Olympic Hotel, would have had cool drinks on offer. Walk in, look straight ahead, drink, and hot foot it out with eyes averted. But I guess as with most of these dives, there would be a reserved ALP corner, where business is done. Members only, so no harbour there.

  180. stackja

    BOM

    Meldrum in Mid North Coast reported 29mm/30min rainfall between 01:15 and 01:45pm. There were a report of wind damages in Yamba.

  181. struth

    I was talking to some supposedly smart high flyers from the mining and accounting professions over the break who assured me the future was batteries powered by solar power stations.

    High flyers?

    In what way?

  182. DrBeauGan

    I was talking to some supposedly smart high flyers from the mining and accounting professions over the break who assured me the future was batteries powered by solar power stations.

    They were convinced China had stopped building coal fired power stations and that Germany was now powered 100% by renewables.

    One of our problems is specialisation. Even moderately bright people are astonishingly ignorant outside their areas. Another problem is that instead of promoting intelligence our educational institutions promote neuroticism, the ability to soak up uncritically whatever bullshit is fashionable without asking awkward questions. You can see why it’s more popular.

  183. Geriatric Mayfly

    There were zero passenger fatalities from commercial passenger jet crashes, anywhere in the world, in 2017.

    Is it 10,000 of these in the air every day? The modern jet engine has to be one of the greatest achievements of engineering. And don’t start me on that Dreamtime equivalence garbage.

  184. They were convinced China had stopped building coal fired power stations and that Germany was now powered 100% by renewables.

    Shows the power of the MSM in AU.

    Maybe the first dozen tumbril loads should be MSM.

    (or maybe I will just leave it to the mob to decide)

  185. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    High flyers?

    In what way?

    Lots of cash. Powerful positions.

    Not crack smokers.

  186. Boambee John

    Roger
    #2599042, posted on January 2, 2018 at 12:29 pm
    Obama the traitor:

    The Obama White House stymied a DEA investigation into Hezbollah’s international drug smuggling and money laundering operations so as not to put Iran off side during nuclear negotiations.

    Iran regarded Hezbollah’s activities exporting heroin and cocaine into the US from central and south America as a means to undermine American society.

    Over time, the drug operation became a greater source of funding for Hezbollah than Iranian sponsorship.

    Shorter m0nty response: “But, Wussia, Wussia, Wussia, Trump, Manafort, Muellerween, Muellergiving, Happy Muellermas, …”

  187. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Maybe the first dozen tumbril loads should be MSM.

    (or maybe I will just leave it to the mob to decide)

    One of my must dos this year is to complete my list of the 1000 people we must execute to bring back righteousness.

  188. Mitch M.

    One of our problems is specialisation. Even moderately bright people are astonishingly ignorant outside their areas. Another problem is that instead of promoting intelligence our educational institutions promote neuroticism, the ability to soak up uncritically whatever bullshit is fashionable without asking awkward questions. You can see why it’s more popular.

    Education is now mostly about vocation. We don’t promote the idea that we should read widely, that our learning is not just about vocation but to inform us about the world more widely. Given that many creative individuals display a wide range of interests I sometimes wonder if the current trend is crippling our creative potential.

  189. rickw

    The idea that the 700,000,000 Chinese hoeing paddocks with chopsticks have IQs above 100 is also ridiculous. I’ll back Iran to have a better future than China in the long run any day.

    1000 years of mostly not starving, mostly not rooting cousins, and mostly not being invaded by your even dumber cousins from the south would explain a lot of the difference.

  190. Zyconoclast

    z, not sure where you’re getting that iq number for Iran from.
    I’ve seen reports that show the urban female in Iran has the highest education, iq etc in the middle east outside of israel.
    Happy to be proved wrong.

    https://iq-research.info/en/page/average-iq-by-country/ir-iran#

  191. DrBeauGan

    One of my must dos this year is to complete my list of the 1000 people we must execute to bring back righteousness.

    It could be a lot more than a thousand, I T. I suggest we all make such a list and pool them.

  192. Boambee John

    incoherent rambler
    #2599059, posted on January 2, 2018 at 12:50 pm
    Stimp, I’m thinking of roller blade themed park where your can skate from Baghdad to Tripoli on a flat glassed surface.

    Which Tripoli, Syria or Libya?

  193. Stimpson J. Cat

    Stimp, I’m thinking of roller blade themed park where your can skate from Baghdad to Tripoli on a flat glassed surface.

    A Burkha blading wamens roller derby league armed with scimitars would be awesome.

  194. struth

    One of our problems is specialisation. Even moderately bright people are astonishingly ignorant outside their areas

    Professors are the worst.
    In the tourist industry, if we saw on the pax manifest a professor, we could just about guarantee getting someone that once outside his institution and field of expertise (which many were not experts in at all ), we would be dealing with someone who would need to be told how to wipe their arse correctly.

  195. I had Libya in mind.

    The derby is a great idea Stimp.

    Do we have coloured robes for team identification?

  196. Rockdoctor

    I can back IT. It’s as if some professionals want to commit economic suicide to be in the in crowd in inner Brisbane. Especially in coal though they try to absolve themselves of this sin by telling themselves it’s coking coal not thermal. They are not alone as I was conversing with an earthworks contractor who was convinced all the green left lies about Adani were Gospel yet still worked in the mines. I do my bit to counter but against the green industrial complex I can only do so much. I think has infected all society & unless hard times come along won’t change…

  197. stackja

    Leftists since Lenin have created problems.

  198. Stimpson J. Cat

    Do we have coloured robes for team identification?

    Too easy.
    Different coloured painted fingernails.

  199. circa 1993

    Me: Can you give me an executive summary of this global warming thingy?
    #2: No boss. You need to check it yourself. I think its bull. I will get you some references.

    So it began.

  200. Boambee John

    incoherent rambler
    #2599136, posted on January 2, 2018 at 3:05 pm
    I had Libya in mind.

    Excellent, not enough room to warm up properly on the shorter run!

  201. Stimpson J. Cat

    The idea that the 700,000,000 Chinese hoeing paddocks with chopsticks have IQs above 100 is also ridiculous. I’ll back Iran to have a better future than China in the long run any day.

    The most potent indicator of IQ is knife, fork and spoon usage.

  202. My point was supposed to be that many quite bright people don’t have the time to filter the bullshit and investigate.

  203. Top Ender

    On a similar note to the burka roller derby scenario was the rifle qualification course in Kuwait prior to being deployed in Iraq.

    We had to fire our assault rifles from behind a concrete barrier at a car which contained three burka-clad women. Dummies dressed up, with the car on rails. The gunnery people had a remote control and they could switch the points on the rail network so each run was different. If you hit the driver “she” fell backward and the car stopped. If you didn’t it eventually came up against the barrier with a bang. Failure to hit the driver beyond 100m was a fail.

    Good fun and terribly un-PC. Probably been all changed now.

  204. The most potent indicator of IQ is knife, fork and spoon usage.

    Works for me.
    Slabs, bread, snags, burgers…
    No cutlery (or glasses) in sight.

  205. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Why stop at 1000 IT?

    I reckon if you get the list right, you can execute fewer than a 1000.

    Just remember that many people won’t be executed, they will just be very very badly beaten and tortured.

  206. I reckon if you get the list right, …

    Well if you get it wrong, I guess you can just start again.

    just be very very badly beaten and tortured.

    pour encourager les autres. Excellent.

  207. DrBeauGan

    Just remember that many people won’t be executed, they will just be very very badly beaten and tortured.

    I don’t hold with this. It is immoral. Just hang them.

  208. stackja

    incoherent rambler
    #2599147, posted on January 2, 2018 at 3:29 pm
    I reckon if you get the list right, …

    Well if you get it wrong, I guess you can just start again.

    just be very very badly beaten and tortured.

    pour encourager les autres. Excellent.

    The question who chooses the listing?

  209. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    I don’t hold with this. It is immoral. Just hang them.

    I prefer the “pushing out of helicopter” method. It’s less barbaric.

  210. JC

    One of my must dos this year is to complete my list of the 1000 people we must execute to bring back righteousness.

    That’s some very low expectations, dude. 95% of the academy would have to go and that would be thousands. I also don’t think ti should be brutish in any way , which is why I would prefer execution by lethal injection rather than torture and beatings. We are humane after all.

  211. JC

    I prefer the “pushing out of helicopter” method. It’s less barbaric.

    Of course that’s barbaric. The sheer terror in the last seconds would be intolerably cruel. Lethal injection is the most humane route. Think about it.

  212. Stimpson J. Cat

    Just remember that many people won’t be executed, they will just be very very badly beaten and tortured.

    Can we give Grig a job making lampshades, soap, and hats?
    I don’t want him to feel left out.

  213. JC

    And one other thing, Artiste. We may not have to change any laws particularly in states like Victoria, as the execution would easily fall under the euthanasia laws. Hell, even the Hotline could administer the “shots”.

  214. JC

    Can we give Grig a job making lampshades, soap, and hats?
    I don’t want him to feel left out.

    Wouldn’t he just love that. It would be like heaven to him.

  215. Surely you can pickup a cheap second rock crusher from an WA mining site.
    Think of Gaia and the compost!

  216. Stimpson J. Cat

    I prefer the “pushing out of helicopter” method. It’s less barbaric.

    Been done before.
    Put a hip new modern spin on it, like being pushed off a 20 storey tall building on to a helicopter.

  217. DrBeauGan

    I prefer the “pushing out of helicopter” method. It’s less barbaric.

    But I want the corpses left hanging from lamp-posts for at least a month. Pour encourager les autres.

  218. It’s gonna be a tight race for the position of Minister for Public Executions, Beatings and Torture in the first Rambler government.

  219. Stimpson J. Cat

    But I want the corpses left hanging from lamp-posts for at least a month. Pour encourager les autres.

    No you don’t.
    This is Australia.
    You wouldn’t be able to even see them for all the flies.
    Imagine the smell.
    Just disgusting.

  220. JC

    ASX 200 board members would all have to go. Fuck they’re a despicable, horrible lot. Every single one without at least 5% of the shareholding that wasn’t purchased on the open market or acquired through being a founder would have succumb to lethal injection. The fee raking, the need to conform with a leftwing bent would make them prime candidates.

  221. DrBeauGan

    No you don’t.
    This is Australia.
    You wouldn’t be able to even see them for all the flies.
    Imagine the smell.
    Just disgusting.

    Disgustinger the better.

  222. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    But I want the corpses left hanging from lamp-posts for at least a month. Pour encourager les autres.

    Noted. We will have to do this in the cooler months.

  223. old bloke

    feelthebern
    #2599081, posted on January 2, 2018 at 1:22 pm

    z, not sure where you’re getting that iq number for Iran from.
    I’ve seen reports that show the urban female in Iran has the highest education, iq etc in the middle east outside of israel.
    Happy to be proved wrong.

    Is Iran a middle-east nation? Given it’s proximity to Turkey, Afghanistan and all the other Stan states, wouldn’t it be classified as an Asian nation?

  224. stackja

    Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)
    #2599151, posted on January 2, 2018 at 3:34 pm
    I don’t hold with this. It is immoral. Just hang them.

    I prefer the “pushing out of helicopter” method. It’s less barbaric.

    Who pushes who?

  225. JC

    I can’t tell the story now about the inner workings of a large company, but I will when it’s safe to do so. It’s a horrifying story. Boards don’t give a rats about the shareholders. They’re the worst. In fact I would put them before the union honchos in line for the “shot”.

  226. DrBeauGan

    Tell you what, we’ll compromise. Once there’s a corpse hanging from every lamp-post in Canberra, the rest can be pushed out of helicopters.

  227. Stimpson J. Cat

    ASX 200 board members

    Quantas Board first JC.

  228. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    It’s gonna be a tight race for the position of Minister for Public Executions, Beatings and Torture in the first Rambler government.

    I nominate Stimpy or IT.

  229. JC

    No one would be spared, Stimson. The’re horrible people.

  230. Stimpson J. Cat

    Is Iran a middle-east nation? Given it’s proximity to Turkey, Afghanistan and all the other Stan states, wouldn’t it be classified as an Asian nation?

    Let’s have none of that British Muslim Pakistani talk thanks.

  231. Makka

    I think has infected all society & unless hard times come along won’t change…

    A deep and destructive recession is the ONLY remedy for what ails Australia, sad to say. It’s the ONLY thing that has any hope to put our economic state in perspective, focus us on priorities and trivialise the greenleft slime in the eyes of brain dead punters. Our slow painful slide into Venestralia is assured if nothing occurs to shock the electorate into putting priorities first. Currently, the population ponzi supports the status quo and that will be even more oppressive as the economy hollows out and Govt’s share of GDP and the employed grows ever larger.

  232. Stimpson J. Cat

    Anything special planned for NBN execs?

    Hung from wireless towers with cat 4 cable naked wearing red underpants on their heads.

  233. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Tell you what, we’ll compromise. Once there’s a corpse hanging from every lamp-post in Canberra, the rest can be pushed out of helicopters.

    The good DrBeauGan is going to have a prominent role in the new administration. Probably the only Doctor who will, as I am executing anyone who is or has been associated with the AMA.

  234. Boambee John

    old bloke at 1549

    Is Iran a middle-east nation?

    Iranians are Persians. Their principal redeeming feature is that they despise Arabs.

  235. JC

    Makka

    It’s all a slow grind down at tortoise speed so it’s not as visible to the average punter. We’re blessed in having a very small population on an enormous landmass, which means if something doesn’t work we capable of switching gears. Where it is visible in the relative per cap rankings.

  236. BrettW

    Perhaps we can have a thread for lists of people to kill and how to do it. Should be fascinating reading.

    Time to kill this thread.

  237. stackja

    Sinc is probably enjoying all this talk of Canberra lamp-posts.

  238. Zulu Kilo Two Alpha

    Once there’s a corpse hanging from every lamp-post in Canberra, the rest can be pushed out of helicopters.

    Being lashed to a bundle of faggots, soaked in pitch, ignited and flung over the castle walls from a trebuchet not an option?

  239. Are you or have you ever been a member of the [Liberal Party]* ?

    * Substitute one of ALP, Nationals, Greens, CFMEU, AWU …

    Hint: Correct answer is NO.

    Anyone who hesitates is handed over to Dr. Stimpy’s department.

  240. Stimpson J. Cat

    Perhaps we can have a thread for lists of people to kill and how to do it. Should be fascinating reading.

    Stop that kind of talk you Nazi.

  241. Makka

    JC,

    That’s obvious. The Uniparty rely on brain dead punters to keep them sharing the trough. My premise still stands. Our current trajectory is unlivable cities , overrun by foreigners and a slave like economy for most. Unless the electorate wakes up and becomes energised to demand the changes needed, nothing will change. Recession could and should be a catalyst.

  242. Stimpson J. Cat

    I don’t believe in torture or executions.
    I believe in education.
    If everyone was gently encouraged to watch my 24 hour one man shows entitled “The Life of Stimpy Part 1” and “Stimpys Simple Grand Unifying Theory of Life, the Universe, and Everything” told through karaoke, mime, poetry, and interpretive dance I think you would find the problems would take care of themselves.

  243. JC

    “Stimpys Simple Grand Unifying Theory of Life, the Universe, and Everything” told through karaoke, mime, poetry, and interpretive dance I think you would find the problems would take care of themselves.

    Already been tried. Christopher Langan claiming to have the highest IQ on the planet has come out with the Theory of Everything.

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