Is an absence of common sense now the key ingredient for political office?

Malcolm is not only his own worst enemy, he is close enough to being ours as well. If this really is all the Libs have then they really are doomed. You would hope that this far out from an election, the Liberals might actually do something to attract people who, you know, are inclined to vote for the Liberals. But what do we make of this: Carbon war: Tony Abbott fires up for battle:

Malcolm Turnbull is facing a backlash over his energy policy as conservative MPs including Tony Abbott condemn a proposal to allow power companies to meet emissions targets by buying permits from overseas as a “carbon tax” by stealth.

Mr Abbott has slammed the government’s in-­principle support for including international carbon credits in Australia’s energy policy, arguing that the move will see Australian businesses and consumers shovelling money to foreign carbon traders, with huge potential for rorts.

Does anyone any longer really think that we have to lower our carbon footprint etc to deal with a problem that is almost certainly non-existent? Where’s the evidence of global warming? Where’s the urgency to do something that will make us poor to fix a problem that no one can see to make a bunch of overseas traders wealthy as they fly off to their resorts and live in their air-conditioned palatial mansions? Is an absence of common sense now the key ingredient for political office?

And then to remind us what a political buffoon he is, he has even taken Keating’s bait and bought into the deadest of non-issues, the Republic for heaven’s sake! Is there no level of incompetence that this man cannot descend to? Apparently not.

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68 Responses to Is an absence of common sense now the key ingredient for political office?

  1. stackja

    MT believed the bloke about the ute.

  2. I wonder how those desalination plants are going?

  3. Elizabeth (Lizzie) Beare

    There is no end to the persistent belief of believers in a climatic disaster for which there is no real evidence.
    It’s a religion, founded on prophecies and ancient texts. It’s ingrained into social institutions – the legal system takes it as read, the educational system promotes it beyond any rationality, people have been fed foolishness for so long that heretics are rare because of the social opprobrium such heresy brings.

    It’s also big business. Follow the money.

  4. W Hogg

    On the bright side, letting them buy fake carbon credits from Ukraine for EUR7 instead of $85 RETs will instantly bankrupt Big Wind who rely on an $85 carbon price.

  5. Where’s the evidence of global warming?

    The dog ate it.

    Great post Mr. Kates.

  6. jupes

    And then to remind us what a political buffoon he is, he has even taken Keating’s bait and bought into the deadest of non-issues, the Republic for heaven’s sake!

    And in typical Turnbull style he did it half-arsed.

    Dumb as a stump.

  7. jupes

    On the bright side, letting them buy fake carbon credits from Ukraine for EUR7 instead of $85 RETs will instantly bankrupt Big Wind who rely on an $85 carbon price.

    Yeah nah, they won’t allow that to happen.

    They’ll just introduce more regulations and complexity to ensure Big Wind remains ‘viable’.

  8. Neenee

    The NSW Police fixated persons investigations unit should look into Turnbull’s fixation with international carbon credit trading and his possible continuing links with international banking terrorists. While at it they could also look at his fixation with republicanism and new world order terrorism.

  9. Barry J

    ‘Follow the money’ is spot on.
    The adjusted temperature data, the hyped environmental catastrophes and all the rest are just theatre.
    The real problem is how to turn the ‘low carbon’ industry juggernauts with their snouts so deeply in the troughs. How many of the world banks, funding this nonsense, could cope it the government funded renewable levees stop.

  10. The answer to the question – an unequivocal yes.

  11. If only we had US anti-racketeering laws we could put Trumble away for the next 40 years.

  12. mh

    The only sure way for Australia to help lower global carbon emissions is to stop third world immigration to Australia. Sudanese living in Sudan will have a lower carbon footprint than Sudanese living in Melbourne. If you’re fair dinkum Malcolm, stop Sudanese immigration NOW!

  13. Adelagado

    What could possibly be wrong with buying Nigerian Carbon Credits?

  14. Cassie of Sydney

    Turnbull a “political buffoon”…no, no, no, that is far too kind. A buffoon might be ridiculous but can be amusing. There is nothing amusing or funny about Turnbull. The man is a complete moron.

  15. mh

    Where’s the evidence of global warming?

    Hmm, let’s have a look:

    Record-shattering cold reaches as far south as Florida; parts of Niagara Falls freeze over

    A record-shattering arctic cold in the United States has reached as far south as Florida, with freeze warnings in place from Texas to the Atlantic Coast and the north-east of the country facing another cold wave at the end of the week, forecasters said.
    Temperatures were from 11 to 17 degrees Celsius below normal across the US east of the Rocky Mountains, with only southern Florida untouched by the arctic blast.

  16. Karabar

    In 1597 King James VI of Scotland published his work “Daemonology”. Within a few decades, Europeans discussed endlessly various methods of killing demons of all description. As time passed and people became “enlightened”, it became obvious that all this discussion about ‘fighting dangerou0s demons’ was nothing but make-believe intended to enhance the power an wealth of the elite.

    We really haven’t learned anything, since in the 21st century we discuss endlessly the make-believe of ‘global warming’, ‘dangerous climate change’, the ways in which human activities affect the weather, etc.
    Discussions about the imaginary “Global Climate” are as much nonsense as discussions four centuries ago about werewolves, vampires, and witches. In order to determine whether or not some parameter has changed, it is necessary to have some sort of metric that can be examined over time to discover the extent and nature of the change.

    “Climate” indeed has such a metric, in the form of classification systems, for the most part Koppen-Geiger and Trewartha. Both have six basic classifications, which are further subdivided into approximately ten sub classifications each. In examining the geographical changes over a century or so, it is clear that areas of each classification can expand or contract slightly in tune with the cyclical nature of the solar system. Indeed, over the breadth of the twentieth century one can argue that there has effectively been no NET change, other than the remarkable greening of vegetation over the past three or four decades which is reflected in the Trewartha classification.

    If there were such a parameter as the imaginary “global climate”, what would it be? Would it fall into the classification A, B, C, D, E, or F? Would that mean that the climate of the Scott base is of the same classification as Honolulu?

    As homo sapiens did three or four centuries ago, today we insist on the discussion of pure nonsense, but instead of it being how to identify and torture witches, we insist on discussion nonsense such as ‘global warming’, ‘ocean acidification’, and ‘decarbonisation’.
    Four centuries have passed with little or no anthropocentric advancement in common sense. Thousands of innocent people were tortured and burned alive in this previous bout of idiocy. How many have to suffer due to the IPCC version of “Daemonology”?

  17. jupes

    Four centuries have passed with little or no anthropocentric advancement in common sense.

    Indeed Karabar.

    Excellent post.

  18. Muddy

    Beyond the protection and that pee-down-your-leg-warmth of The Bubble, all that exists is a reflection of The Bubble. The Bubble decrees it so, and given that The Bubble is all there is, it follows that it must be the only truth.

    If only reflections of The Bubble exist outside of The Bubble, then the same truth must be of those cocooned within it: only reflections of themselves exist beyond: distant, somewhat faded and misshapen, but nevertheless still versions of the in-Bubbles.

    All hail The Bubble.

  19. Mark A

    W Hogg
    #2599760, posted on January 3, 2018 at 2:16 pm

    On the bright side, letting them buy fake carbon credits from Ukraine for EUR7 instead of $85 RETs will instantly bankrupt Big Wind who rely on an $85 carbon price.

    I think that is an excellent idea.
    Latest carbon price in the EU is 17c/ton

  20. Mak Siccar

    Clearly, commonsense is NOT a prerequisite for being a politician, certainly in Australia at least. He is not even clever enough to have put these thought bubbles out as the furphies – bbq stoppers – that are usually trotted out at this time of year. He can’t help saying something, even when saying nothing is a better option. Relevance deprivation syndrome of the highest order. Poor fellow, our country.

  21. Muddy

    Indeed Karabar.

    Excellent post.

    I concur. However the most disturbing aspect is not why so many people believe, but why so few oppose the demon-of-the-moment, and so weakly.

  22. Roger

    Four centuries have passed with little or no anthropocentric advancement in common sense.

    We can argue about the precise point of the peak, but Western civilisation has passed it. It’s all downhill from now. It is only our military power and security intelligence capability that keeps our enemies at bay for now. Meanwhile, our political class does its best to hasten the decline.

  23. Belief in Global Warming

    Is the giveaway.

    It’s not something with metrics. You believe or disbelieve (aka deny).

    As soon as someone says they believe in Global Warming, you know you are talking to a witch burner.

  24. Muddy

    Following from Karabar’s comment, we might make the claim that the modern witch-hunters are profoundly misogynist. That their need to identify and hunt ‘climate denial’ witches reflects a disturbing propensity to victimise weaker members of the community, which, according to the PC version of both the past and present, have been, and are still, female. Just like unconscious racism, climate witch-hunting is unconscious misogyny.

  25. Muddy

    It is only our military power and security intelligence capability that keeps our enemies at bay for now.

    Our enemies inside or outside the gates?
    Are there any still lingering outside?

  26. Let me rephrase that: witch and warlock burners.

  27. candy

    Bill Shorten and Labor are a more honest outfit than Malcolm Turnbull and the scheming Liberals.

    In the end it probably does not matter, truly much the same, and comes down to a personality contest between Turnbull and Shorten.

    Most likely people prefer Kevin Rudd.

  28. comes down to a personality contest between Turnbull and Shorten.

    Mick Trumble has no personality.

    There is some interest in Willy’s tits.

  29. Roger

    Our enemies inside or outside the gates?

    Both.

  30. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Bill Shorten and Labor are a more honest outfit than Malcolm Turnbull and the scheming Liberals.

    In the end it probably does not matter, truly much the same, and comes down to a personality contest between Turnbull and Shorten.

    Most likely people prefer Kevin Rudd.

    The candybot must have eaten something bad at the buffet.

  31. harrys on the boat

    Karabar

    #2599780, posted on January 3, 2018 at 2:41 pm

    A depressingly excellent post. We learn nothing as a species. And with the information age it gets worse. Bird flu, Ozone hole, MMR vaccines, Mad Cow disease, foot in mouth, Indonesian abattoirs – Idiocracy was an average comedy, but it’s looking like an astute documentary.

  32. Bob of Brisbane

    Malcolm Turnbull is no buffoon. He knows exactly what he is doing. He’s marching to the beat of a different drum. The buffoons are those who follow him: the politicians and the public. Work out who is winning from Turnbull’s energy policies, then remember where Turnbull came from and you will understand where his allegiances lie.

  33. Suburban Boy

    “Malcolm is … his own worst enemy …”.

    Not while I’m alive, he’s not!

    (With apologies to the late Sir James Killen.)

  34. Rayvic

    Given Malcolm’s apparent science and economics illiteracy and his political correctness, ‘Yes’ is the appropriate answer to your question.

  35. Muddy

    Roger, I’m not sure we have any enemies remaining out in the cold. They seem to be all safely ensconced in the wealth and security of the institutions they are working furiously to undermine and burn to ashes.

    It’s the enablers that need to be hunted. Insurgents cannot exist within a population without the infrastructure to support them.

  36. Time for a quote from our supreme leader –

    The laws of mathematics are very commendable but the only laws that applies in Australia is the law of Australia.

  37. Anita

    What an idiot MT is. He thought that he could ride on the success of the SSM postal vote model. Going Republic is not a first order issue for the Libs. He swallowed Keating’s bait. Let him flounder in misery until his political death. A sensible PM would have consulted his team – the back benchers and Ministers. MT could not think and plan even for the day, let alone a vision for the next 20 years for Australia. Not even vision from one election to the next. What a fraud.

  38. Roger

    Roger, I’m not sure we have any enemies remaining out in the cold.

    China, if we are speaking in terms of conventional geo-politics.

  39. Muddy

    Roger, I’m not sure we have any enemies remaining out in the cold.

    China, if we are speaking in terms of conventional geo-politics.

    Fair point.

  40. Roger

    A sensible PM would have consulted his team – the back benchers and Ministers.

    When Maladroit usurped Abbott he promised consultative government.

    Apparently he meant he would consult with Lucy.

  41. wal1957

    Candy wrote…”Most likely people prefer Kevin Rudd.”

    Seriously? What insane asylum did you escape from?

    Krudd is the most obnoxious, arrogant, little man I have ever had the mispleasure to meet!

    On Turdball…I wonder when he will do his usual backflip? Next week, next month?

    How’s the budget deficit Malcolm? Throwing out these 2 distractions won’t save you from the obvious!
    Republic? Piss off! I could see a reason for it if the system was broken, but it’s not. The only problem we have at the moment are spineless politicians who dare say nothing that will go against the grain.

    Carbon Credits? Last time I checked, that was a Labor policy.

    Malcolm’s labor party credentials are on show for all. However I don’t have too much faith in the gullible public…for them it will always be a choice between Labor/Liberal…thay cannot see that the difference between the 2 parties is narrowing every day.

  42. Roger

    Fair point.

    But you are correct.

    As I noted recently, we really should fear the enemy within more than the enemy without our borders.

    Not coincidentally, very many of our Chinese immigrants are de facto agents of the CPC.

    Just the latest of the threats our idiotic immigration program has gifted us with.

  43. John Constantine

    Their redfilth Julia could beat trumble.

    If Hussein Obama campaigned for her.

  44. Dr Faustus

    A sensible PM would have consulted his team – the back benchers and Ministers. MT could not think and plan even for the day, let alone a vision for the next 20 years for Australia. Not even vision from one election to the next. What a fraud.

    Exactly correct.

    Turnbull has been absolutely consistent in his planning and execution hopelessness throughout his entire parliamentary career. He seems to have survived because, when you are recognised as the smartest man in the room:

    a) you are always right; and
    b) when you are wrong, it is always some lesser being’s fault.

    His appalling communication skills are founded on the fact that he never has a plan to explain, far less the vision thing. A mellifluous speaking voice will take you a long way in the Liberal Party.

  45. manalive

    A ‘carbon tax’ by stealth …

    Sky News commentator and former Abbott chief of staff Peta Credlin dubbed the timing of the announcement last month as a “getting out the trash” move, given it was released the day after the mid-year economic and fiscal update and the day of Mr Turnbull’s cabinet reshuffle …

    … that’s our Malcolm.

  46. Iampeter

    Mr Abbott has slammed the government’s in-­principle support for including international carbon credits in Australia’s energy policy, arguing that the move will see Australian businesses and consumers shovelling money to foreign carbon traders, with huge potential for rorts.

    Probably something Abbott should’ve thought about before implementing Direct Action. Didn’t seem to bother him much when he brought carbon trading to Australia making us the victims of the this international wealth redistribution scheme. Money is going to go to the overseas traders that conned rich western leaders like Abbott and Howard into this? Oh the shock!

    Seriously Steve, the environmentalist bureaucracy and the economic ills coming from it, is almost entirely the result of the Howard and Abbott governments. I’m no fan of Turnbul either but he is the least worst on this issue because he hasn’t even done anything.

  47. 132andBush

    The core of the liberal party is a circle of jerks and at the core of them is Turnbull.
    Green/labor energy policies and the push for vagina quotas and SSM, they’re not even pretending anymore.

  48. Dr Fred Lenin

    Goldman sachs is probably deep into the warming scam ,those greedy mongrels wouldn’t let a chance to rip people off like that go by , no surprise if they hide money in the Caymans, like the leader of the] liberal branch of the alp that wouldn’t be the reason for his love of the scam? Surely not . Mind you he and the useless whitlams whelp were both bum boys for the crooked New York thieves ,untill turnbull got conned by Adler , an even bigger thief than the New York scum

  49. a happy little debunker

    jupes #2599763, posted on January 3, 2018 at 2:20 pm

    “…ensure Big Wind remains ‘viable’.”

    Big Wind – akin to the after effects of a vegan banquet.

  50. manalive

    Iampeter at 5:36 pm:

    Probably something Abbott should’ve thought about before implementing Direct Action. Didn’t seem to bother him much when he brought carbon trading to Australia making us the victims of the this international wealth redistribution scheme. Money is going to go to the overseas traders that conned rich western leaders like Abbott and Howard into this? Oh the shock!

    Abbott’s ‘direct action’ didn’t involve the purchase international ‘carbon credits’, that was the main criticism of it at the time.
    Abbott has never supported those overseas transfers: ”… money that shouldn’t be going offshore into dodgy carbon farms …” (Abbott in 2011).

  51. Supplice

    And then to remind us what a political buffoon he is, he has even taken Keating’s bait and bought into the deadest of non-issues, the Republic for heaven’s sake! Is there no level of incompetence that this man cannot descend to? Apparently not.

    To be fair, Maocolm was at the forefront of the Republican charge 20 years ago, too. So its not really descending into incompetence as reminding everyone that he has been incompetent for decades.

  52. Spring is coming

    See own foot…ready…..aim….fire!

  53. Carl

    As a Goldman Sachs’ man, Turnbull’s goal all along has been carbon trading so his old firm can make a fortune as “carbon traders to the world”.

  54. candy

    Krudd is the most obnoxious, arrogant, little man I have ever had the mispleasure to meet!

    wal1957, despite whatever the man is in truth, I don’t think the Australian public think badly of him at all.

    He and Tony Abbott have personalities and had ideas to pursue ( stopping boats, stopping carbon trading, or NBN/Pink Batts etc). Whatever side you are on, there were big ideas, aspirations).

    It’s a bit unclear about M. Turnbull and B. Shorten, is all I am saying.

  55. Jo Smyth

    There is absolutely no doubt Turnbull is taking the pi.. He is getting away with it because he has the support of the media who want a Labor Government and by the looks of it, most of the Liberal Party want Labor to win as well.

  56. candy

    .. He is getting away with it because he has the support of the media who want a Labor Government

    No, I think the media in the main want Malcolm Turnbull the progressive, Green, Republic man. The urbane charming, art lover, opera loving gent, who brought in SSM, and represents their ideals. He is their man. He is their “Dear Leader”. they love him.

    I’ve said it before and am boring about it – it’s not the Liberal Party the media love – it’s Malcolm Turnbull and all they see in him and are simpatico with him.

  57. Jimf

    Over the festive break Mal no doubt had some rollicking high brow parties at the mansion,full of republican mates. Being the dozy prick he is ,at their urging, and being so full of himself ,he’s in doubt that his (Dutton’s) survey thing can now get his banana republic up.This bloke has no brain or shame.He hates Dutton of course , but would happily take his idea and believe it to be a wild victory of his own.Mal is what you get when a narcissist in a bubble is surrounded by weaklings intent on slurping from the trough.

  58. Boambee John

    It’s quiet on this thread; too quiet.

  59. Ms Smith

    “I’ve said it before and am boring about it – it’s not the Liberal Party the media love – it’s Malcolm Turnbull and all they see in him and are simpatico with him.” Sickening isn’t it?! About as sickening as the Left media in the USA drooling over their hero Hillary Clinton!

  60. candy

    Sickening isn’t it?! About as sickening as the Left media in the USA drooling over their hero Hillary Clinton!

    yes, it is sickening. Sometimes I wonder if I am totally weird and strange because I don’t seen in Malcolm Turnbull what the majority of the media do. And the LNP do. I am right out of this loop. I don’t like SSM or we should become a republic. Climate change seems silly. It’s weather, it changes over years, over decades, over centuries. The focus on climate just eludes me, totally eludes me. It’s just climate, just weather.

    Kind of feel I don’t belong.

  61. Jo Smyth

    Yes, Malcolm is all the things the media love, he is left, green, progressive, egotistic and he plays into their hands. The media love him too because he is turning more and more people away from the Liberal Party and that means the liberals won’t win any election and Labor will. What I can’t understand is if a lowly voter like me can see what is going on, why are people in the Liberal Party quite happy to let it happen. The only reasons I can think of are they are totally thick or they are not bothered about losing the next election or they are gutless.

  62. Texas Jack

    Stealth. It’s a good word that one. Imagine how enraptured the Potts Point Self Appreciation Society will be if he manages to pull off SSM, a new pathway to a republic, and the re-imposition of a carbon tax?

  63. Sir Jethro de Bodine

    MT’s endgame is to push Left and Right so far to the extremes of the political spectrum that the Centre will be exclusively his. A Liberal party in name only and a Labor party adrift and irrelevant. An ideal plaform for his Presidential aspirations.

  64. W Hogg

    W Hogg
    #2599760, posted on January 3, 2018 at 2:16 pm

    On the bright side, letting them buy fake carbon credits from Ukraine for EUR7 instead of $85 RETs will instantly bankrupt Big Wind who rely on an $85 carbon price.

    I think that is an excellent idea.
    Latest carbon price in the EU is 17c/ton

    I think you’re thinking of CERs. Proper EU carbon is still EUR7 .

  65. Cannibal

    I can see it now : the Islamic Gay Republic of Oz.

    Actually common sense isn’t that common, so Termite is truly a man of the people.

  66. struth

    The United Nations.

    He is doing exactly what needs to be done for his masters.

  67. I’m done blaming Turnbull, after all he is just looking after Turnbull.
    The real fault lies with the lousy mother$%^%$% assholes who call themselves Liberals in parliament who brought the Turnbull disaster on us with their deceitful taking down of Abbott.

    It’s the likes of Pyne and Bishop and all the rest of them who should be hung drawn and quartered.

  68. Baa Humbug #2600464, posted on January 4, 2018 at 11:09 am “It’s the likes of Pyne and Bishop and all the rest of them who should be hung drawn and quartered.”

    If any of them had read The Inquirer page 11 in last Weekend Australian, they would have resigned by now.

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