Monday Forum: January 8, 2018

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  1. struth

    It’s a good thing those Africans aren’t wearing club colours or gathering in groups larger than two.

  2. Geriatric Mayfly

    For heaven’s sake people, get a grip, what’s wrong with good, old fashioned christmas pudding & custard.

    And the more lumps in that viscous shit the better.

  3. Mater

    which is further evidence that it is primarily an aesthetic luxury good when done as infill.

    Actually Bear,
    You’re likely to get your power back on much quicker in the event of a failure. Try getting excavators, traffic control, etc out to dig up the place in the middle of the night as opposed to jointing a bit of wire in the air, using crimps.

  4. egg_

    Can someone advise the temperature variance at 600 mm underground for ambient and transient air temperatures of o deg C, 20 deg C, 40 deg C and 45 deg C.

    Electrical Engineering 101
    We’re only talking about wires FFS – it ain’t brain Science.

    Try active components, heatsinks, etc.

    They’re talking shit and as Neil said, it’s likely above ground plant affecting the protection network.

  5. Mater

    The rich get the premium service and the rest can fo.

    Really Joe,
    Depending on the system and direction of flow, it’s likely that the hanging wires in front of Bear’s house then dives underground to supply Floreat and CB. If Bear’s wires come down, neither the rich, nor poor, have power.
    A system is only as good as it’s weakest link.

  6. Leigh Lowe

    I can pass on my experience of building 600mm footings (via backhoe) on a hot day in the middle of summer in clayish soil.
    It was cool and moist at approx. 400mm.

    Exactly.
    I was digging 600mm post holes in clay/rocky ground on a 35 Deg day last week and cleaned the last bit of the rubble out of the hole by hand. Could have come straight out of the fridge it was so cool to the touch.
    I call bullshit on the hot UG cables line.
    I have to say, this is where the CAGW scam is brilliant in it’s construction. It’s main acolytes have zero knowledge of basic maths and physics, not just academically, but the sort of basic observation you and I make having done work in the real world. What CAGW does is it provides a platform for dumbarses to speak with “authority” on stuff they know fuck-all about by feeding them two things …
    (1) plausible sounding but totally half-arsed “science-lite” explanations for observed phenomena; and
    (2) an unshakeable confidence in their CAGW faith and an ability to form packs and howl at non-believers.
    I’ll bet I could tell a bunch of CAGW hipsters that the whole “overheated cables” thing was the fault of coal fired power because the electricity is already over-heated from the heat of the burning coal when it is sent down the cable, whereas wind-turbine power is much better because it is air-cooled before it is put into the cable.
    Total bullshit, but it sounds plausible and it fits their bias so a good number of them would swallow it whole.

  7. egg_

    No love for the lack of outages due to winter storms then? Failure of capitalism yet again.

    February is the worst month of the year for Sydney’s overhead HFC network – due to lightning strikes causing power surges at the customer premises equipment.

  8. Serena;

    The choice is so difficult. Anyone reckon I’ll go with option “A”?

    Option D is a goer.
    Sabbige Dog called ‘Satan’ is a noice touch.

  9. testpattern

    ‘Jim Saleam was the brains trust of the wacko right fringe of Qld politics in the early 90s.’

    Perry J, an African, and his Confederate Action Party. They also spread to Geraldton and the northern wheatbelt of WA where they murdered people.

  10. Leigh Lowe

    Thanks rambler. This seems to confirm by empirical analysis what we intuitively suspect.
    A depth of 600mm has SFA temperature variation.

    The daily variation below the depth of 0.25 m is small and cannot be observed below the depth of one meter.

  11. thefrolickingmole

    Looks like an open and shut case based on some of the internal emails.

    Google is facing renewed controversy over its alleged intolerance toward conservatives at the company, after a class action lawsuit filed by former engineer James Damore disclosed almost 100 pages of screen shots of internal communications in which employees discuss sensitive political issues.

    The evidence appended to the lawsuit, which was filed on Monday, includes a message from Rachel Whetstone, who worked as a senior Google executive after a career in the UK Conservative Party, bemoaning “prejudiced and antagonistic” political discourse at the company.

    Damore, who was fired in 2017 after writing a controversial memo about gender and technology, alleges in the lawsuit that white, male conservative employees at Google are “ostracized, belittled, and punished”.


    Screenshots of internal communications reveal numerous employees appearing to support the idea of being intolerant toward certain points of view, such as one post arguing that Google should respond to Damore’s memo by “disciplining or terminating those who have expressed support”. In another post, a manager stated his intention to “silence” certain “violently offensive” perspectives, writing: “There are certain ‘alternative views, including different political views’ which I do not want people to feel safe to share here … You can believe that women or minorities are unqualified all you like … but if you say it out loud, then you deserve what’s coming to you”.

    Internal posts discussing the debate around diversity at Google, such as a meme of a penguin with the text “If you want to increase diversity at Google fire all the bigoted white men”, are filed as an appendix to the lawsuit under the heading “Anti-Caucasian postings”.

    One manager is quoted as posting: “I keep a written blacklist of people whom I will never allow on or near my team, based on how they view and treat their coworkers. That blacklist got a little longer today.” Another screenshot reveals a manager proposing the creation of a list of “people who make diversity difficult”, and weighing the possibility that individuals could have “something resembling a trial” before being included.

    n making its case against Google, the suit reveals some of the internal backlash Damore received after his memo went viral, including a mass email in which a Google director called the memo “repulsive and intellectually dishonest” and an email to Damore from a fellow engineer stating: “I will keep hounding you until one of us is fired.”

  12. Mater

    February is the worst month of the year for Sydney’s overhead HFC network – due to lightning strikes causing power surges at the customer premises equipment.

    And every transformer leading to a customers premise should have a Surge Arrestor installed to prevent this.

  13. Arky

    I’ll bet I could tell a bunch of CAGW hipsters that the whole “overheated cables” thing was the fault of coal fired power because the electricity is already over-heated from the heat of the burning coal when it is sent down the cable, whereas wind-turbine power is much better because it is air-cooled before it is put into the cable.

    ..
    A year ago I wouldn’t think you were right with this.
    But journo’s spent time and effort “fact checking” Trump’s big red nuclear button.
    So yeah, probably they are that naive.

  14. LL, that sentence, I believe, confirms that ausgrid is talking bullshit.
    They are now on the list of ‘authorities’ never to be believed.
    And yes, I am juggling tumbril allocations.

  15. Arky

    The stupid bastards actually thought the president’s desk had a nuclear launch button, and couldn’t figure out it was a metaphor for the launch process.
    Think about that.

  16. H B Bear

    No that’s just evidence that it was priced out of your reach. Failure of capitalism again. The rich get the premium service and the rest can fo.

    No they get the premium service because they are prepared to pay for it. For others the inconvenience of intermittent interruption isn’t worth the price they wanted to avoid it.

    It isn’t a failure of capitalism at all, particularly as the council polled everyone on what they wanted to do. A failure of capitalism would be for the council or State government to just go ahead and do it and then pass the cost onto everyone.

  17. John Comnenus

    JC

    I think you are wrong in so far as I think we have been through peak impeachment, that is why the 25th amendment crap keeps bubbling up recently.

    I suspect that Trump pretty much knows how the Inspector General and House and Senate Intelligence and Judiciary Committees are going to find and it won’t be nice for the Dems. More documents and testimony is coming in almost daily and they are all disastrous for the Deep State players, senior Dems and the Clinton Campaign.

    I reckon by the end of the month the MSM will shift its rhetoric towards from Trump is crazy to he is a threat to a constitutional republic for investigating alleged crimes by Deep State members and key people in the Hillary Clinton team.

    Once that shift happens you know Trump has destroyed them all.

    My guess is the pendulum swings decisively towards Trump by the end of January.

  18. struth

    But journo’s spent time and effort “fact checking” Trump’s big red nuclear button.
    So yeah, probably they are that naive.

    They also believe that animals that drag themselves right up the beach to get away from the water to lay their eggs and incubate them in sand, are all turning female because of the temperature of the water the eggs don’t come in contact with while incubating.

  19. Mater

    Thanks rambler. This seems to confirm by empirical analysis what we intuitively suspect.
    A depth of 600mm has SFA temperature variation.

    The daily variation below the depth of 0.25 m is small and cannot be observed below the depth of one meter.

    For Christs sake people, underground cables are not super conductors. THEY DON’T RUN COLD. More juice, more heat, no cooling breezes or convection currents…Bang!

  20. H B Bear

    Mater – even where the power has been undergrounded the next highest voltage transmission lines are still above ground but obviously they are much fewer and carried on larger poles at a greater height. If you have one of these on your front lawn well tough luck I guess. Same if you get a box or something else dumped on you through the process.

  21. struth

    I reckon by the end of the month the MSM will shift its rhetoric towards from Trump is crazy to he is a threat to a constitutional republic for investigating alleged crimes by Deep State members and key people in the Hillary Clinton team.

    I think he has that covered too.

    He , personally , isn’t investigating anyone.

  22. A spokesperson for ausgrid will now make a corrected statement as to the cause of the blackouts.
    Something like:
    “During the Extreme Heat ™  the electrons get stuck in the bends in underground cables.”

  23. Howard Hill

    I currently run Windows 7 and have a duel boot w7 and Debian 7.
    I want to abandon w7 entirely and just have Linux Debian as the only machine on boot.

    Do you know what happens to the different partitions on installation?

    @ OneWorldGovernment

    Which one is booting your machine? Grub or windows bootloader?

  24. Rae

    Mr Kidman was a very bad man.

    In what way? What was he alleged to have done?

  25. Leigh Lowe

    In what way? What was he alleged to have done?

    Google it like you usually do fuck-knuckle.

  26. egg_

    For Christs sake people, underground cables are not super conductors. THEY DON’T RUN COLD. More juice, more heat, no cooling breezes or convection currents…Bang!

    Again, the protection network will trip well before underground cable fusion*.

    *I’d like to see one skerrick of evidence of such other than a dead short.

  27. More juice, more heat, no cooling breezes or convection currents…Bang!

    No doubt Mater. But not caused (directly) by the Extreme Heat ™.*

     
     

    *And thermal properties of soils (I read a few minutes ago) vary markedly. One would presume that cables don’t go in soils with unsuitable thermal properties.
    I presume max. temps. would be calculated before laying the cables/conduit. Yes/No?

  28. testpattern

    Re Perry J in Qld. Be interesting from a historical point of view to get MV’s account.

    ‘He was active within the One Nation party, being a close adviser to Pauline Hanson. He was the founder and leader of the far right Confederate Action Party that was successful in infiltrating the One Nation leadership in Queensland. CAP supported the abolition of Aboriginal welfare, the reinstatement of the White Australia policy and the deportation of all non-whites…. His propaganda and activity has incited racial violence against Africans, Asians and Arabs in areas such as Toowoomba and Ipswich.’

    Very similar to some of the avatars that peddle hatespeech here.

    The hardcore racists in the NT congregate around the NT Fights facebook, and the southern based church of creativity and their mud crime pages. There very similar in content and mood to some avatars here too. It doesn’t mean they’re the same people, but there are only a few real nutjobs like these around so it could.

  29. Rae

    Go fuck yourself, Dipshit. feelthebern has the gen, he’s the one I asked.

  30. calli

    For heaven’s sake people, get a grip, what’s wrong with good, old fashioned christmas pudding & custard.

    Some forms of Diversity! are superior to others. I am going froggy today cuisine-wise.

    On heating underground, sand heats up. You bury pool pipes in shallow, exposed trenches and the water in them gets warmer. Depends how deep the cables are and quality of insulation.

  31. Which one is booting your machine? Grub or windows bootloader?

    How do I get past “No root file system”?

    Methinks that is a grub message.

  32. Oh come on

    But journo’s spent time and effort “fact checking” Trump’s big red nuclear button.

    Isn’t it strange? People who regard themselves as literary types – who have no doubt written countless masturbatory, ‘nuanced’ essays during the process of obtaining their English literature degrees – are incapable of identifying obvious metaphors when used by their political opponents? Remember Tony Abbott saying he’d “shirt-front” Vladimir Putin at APEC, and the media howled when Abbott didn’t go on to assault Putin when they met in Brisbane? These fucking morons thought Abbott had promised to attempt to start a physical fight with the Russian president, and went on to mock him when he didn’t. They really are that stupid.

  33. Oh come on

    Everyone hates you, Grigs. Have a nice day!

  34. Mother Lode

    References to dessert environments

    Desserts are usually stored in cool places.

  35. egg_

    And every transformer leading to a customers premise should have a Surge Arrestor installed to prevent this.

    Via the Earth part of the lightning field and the CPE NIC card – even a CPE surge protector may not suffice.

  36. Oh come on

    Diversity!

    Are you talking about the street dance troop who inexplicably defeated Susan Boyle in Britain’s Got Talent?

  37. thefrolickingmole

    Everyone hates you, Grigs.

    Mummie doesnt hate him, but shes very, very disappointed in him, to think she larded so much love and affection on such an ungrateful brat.
    Why he doesnt even keep her skin suit moisturized properly.

    (Exclusive hidden footage from his basement)

  38. cohenite

    Makka

    #2605296, posted on January 9, 2018 at 11:42 am

    Juliar criticised ‘gold-plating’

    Yes. Much better to leave the grid degrade to 3rd world serviceability standards. Think of the savings! Those executive bonuses won’t pay for themselves yano.

    She did the skank before she slunk off to the other skank. The irony is gold-plating is all that stands between us and invisible marauding hordes of Sudanese cunningly using the lightless nights and that gold plating was installed under the direction of one of the last blue-collar union bosses, Bernie Riordan.

  39. Arky

    At DFO.
    Just purchased tan shoes.
    Now to find some navy pants.

  40. H B Bear

    Time for the socks to undertake a bit of anger management training Graegooglery.

  41. John Comnenus

    Struth,

    I agree re he has that position covered as well. He won’t investigate anything or anyone, but any investigation conducted by anybody whilst Trump is in office will be blamed on Trump by the MSM and Dems.

    If I am right, then Trump has shown enormous discipline and strategic patience whilst remaining clearly focused on the longer games. This alone would tend to suggest that he is so far from crazy that he might actually be a political genius. He has hung very tough against all comers and slowly but surely worked himself into a position of strength.

    Now we all know Trump is a religious man so perhaps he was meditating on Psalm 58:10 to help him maintain the discipline required to wait for the day of vengeance:
    Psalm 58:10 “The righteous will rejoice when he sees the vengeance; he will bathe his feet in the blood of the wicked.”

  42. Arky

    Damn my short legs.
    Nevermind,
    I’ll just iron in some cuffs.

  43. Farmer Gez

    Michelle Malkin’s super quote on Hannity.
    “I think Hollywood and the Democrats need to put down the Oprah bong and stop inhaling”.
    Love that girl.

  44. egg_

    Up next – Circuit Breakers 101

    B, C or D curve?

  45. zyconoclast

    The one time there are heaps more females, they are still not happy.
    The only ones not complaining are the males.
    Let’s blame climate change.

    Most sea turtles now female in north Great Barrier Reef
    The vast majority of green sea turtles in the northern Great Barrier Reef are now female because of warmer temperatures due to climate change, which influences their sex during incubation, researchers said Monday.

    The population of about 200,000 nesting females in the area along the east coast of Queensland, Australia, is one of the largest in the world, and could crash without more males, according to the report in the journal Current Biology.

    The temperature at which eggs incubate determines the sex of the eggs. Warmer nests, which are dug into beaches, mean more females. Just a few degrees can mean the difference between a balanced and skewed sex ratio.

  46. Leigh Lowe

    feelthebern has the gen, he’s the one I asked.

    Yes, yes.
    Trying to entice someone to repeat defamatory shit on Sinc’s blog.
    Fuck off and google it like you usually do you sicko xunt.

  47. Psalm 27:2
    When the wicked advance against me to devour me,
    it is my enemies and my foes who will stumble and fall.

  48. zyconoclast

    Anti-Diversity Memo Author Sues Google For Alleged Discrimination Against White Conservative Men

    James Damore, the former Google engineer who wrote a lengthy memo outlining what he perceived as innate gender differences that made women less equipped to work in tech than men, is suing the company for discrimination.

    In a class action lawsuit filed today, Damore and another former Google employee, David Gudeman, claim that Google discriminated against them for their conservative views, their male gender, and their “Caucasian race.”

  49. Mater

    Again, the protection network will trip well before underground cable fusion*.

    Not if there is a weak/deteriorated joint.

    No doubt Mater. But not caused (directly) by the Extreme Heat ™.*

    In ‘Extreme Heat’, the heat doesn’t do the damage. It’s all the McMansions turning on all four of their AC’s which actually destroys things.

    In the event of excessive loading on an ‘Extreme Heat’ day, the Distribution (or Transmission) Company can with turn big slabs of the population off, or wait for a transformer (or cable or whatever the weakest link happens to be) to explode. Either way, you’re off power…and if they let things blow up, it’ll be for a lot longer.

  50. feelthebern

    You’re right LL.
    It would open Sinc up to a lot of grief.
    Hence the references/innuendo.
    Considering Grig has internet access (how else could he blog here), I wonder why he’s so keen for it to be posted here.

  51. JC

    Leigh

    If it’s her father I think he’s dead and slander laws etc can’t be applied for a dead person I think.

    This is really shocking to me. We have close Syd friends who know the family. They’ve maintained just how nice the all are/were. The parents have been split for a long time, I think . I also recall she took his death very badly.

  52. Leigh Lowe

    “During the Extreme Heat ™  the electrons get stuck in the bends in underground cables

    Well, that is not the full story.
    It is the greedy coal-fired electrons trying to beat renewable electrons to the meter and gouge the consumer. This causes electron transit congestion (ETC) resulting in inevitable collisions and failures.

  53. zyconoclast

    Watch the video. The speaker lets the cat out of the bag by telling everyone to vote to try and stop the deportations. Vote heards are real.

    200,000 Salvadorans may be forced to leave the U.S. as Trump ends immigration protection

    The Trump administration announced Monday that it will terminate the provisional residency permits of about 200,000 Salvadorans who have lived in the country since at least 2001, leaving them to face deportation.

    The administration said it will give the Salvadorans until Sept. 9, 2019, to leave the United States or find a way to obtain a green card, according to a statement from the Department of Homeland Security. After earthquakes hit the country in 2001, Salvadorans were granted what is known as Temporary Protected Status, or TPS, and their permits have been renewed on an 18-month basis since then.

    Monday’s announcement is the latest step by the administration to cut the number of foreigners living in the United States — by squeezing the flow of legal immigration and intensifying efforts to expel those who arrived illegally.

    Migrants with TPS

  54. egg_

    Mater
    #2605425, posted on January 9, 2018 at 1:30 pm

    A Copper arguing Electrical Theory?

  55. zyconoclast

    For black immigrants here illegally, a battle against both fear and historic discrimination

    The young Ethiopian dreamed of owning his own business. It’s what he had worked toward since moving more than a decade ago from Addis Ababa to Los Angeles.

    Things seemed to be looking up for the 28-year-old. He taught himself investment banking and day trading and got a job as a project manager for a mortgage company.

    But he is also in the country illegally — a situation further complicated by the color of his skin.

  56. Howard Hill

    How do I get past “No root file system”?

    I haven’t seen anyone claim that problem. If so, that could be very bad, lol.

  57. Stimpson J. Cat

    Go fuck yourself, Dipshit. feelthebern has the gen, he’s the one I asked.

    Settle down Grigs.
    You don’t get angry remember?
    Have a browse through an Aldi catalogue and calm down.
    You know that relaxes you.

  58. struth

    …. His propaganda and activity has incited racial violence against Africans, Asians and Arabs in areas such as Toowoomba and Ipswich.’

    Proof?

  59. egg_

    Again, the protection network will trip well before underground cable fusion*.

    Not if there is a weak/deteriorated joint.

    What of the phase current imbalance?

  60. Stimpson J. Cat

    He taught himself investment banking and day trading and got a job as a project manager for a mortgage company.

    I don’t want to say diversity hire but diversity hire.

  61. feelthebern

    Trump is saying all DACA people go home is he?
    I was under the impression he’s willing to be pretty lenient as long as he gets his wall money.
    Is that not the case?

  62. struth

    The change in the turtle story may mean the original was mocked so hard at they quickly changed it.

  63. dopey

    These baby turtles must know something, what with all coming out as females.

  64. Mater

    Via the Earth part of the lightning field and the CPE NIC card – even a CPE surge protector may not suffice.

    Look egg, you’re right, they don’t stop everything.
    But it’s like I say to people who whinge about electricity starting fires on hot days. It’s electricity, and there is no free lunches. They can accept the risk and have power, or they can have it turned off on the very days they want AC.
    Distribution companies take a bloody large hit in the hip pocket whenever anyone is off supply. They are well incentivised to avoid outages, especially in a privatised market.
    We can whinge about them, but we must temper that with the financial and scientific realities of the physical world, which we inhabit.
    But let me be clear, break downs on the system is one thing, running out of supply due to poor policy, is quite another…thoroughly unaccceptable.

  65. feelthebern

    Don’t pile onto Grig too hard.
    He’ll take it out on the poor women in his basement.

  66. Stimpson J. Cat

    You know what we need?
    What will make the world a better place?
    Mental Illness Diversity hires.

    It would be so inspiring and yet so entertaining.

  67. Stimpson J. Cat

    He’ll take it out on the poor women in his basement.

    He’s moved on to albinos now.
    They are good luck you know.

  68. struth

    Things seemed to be looking up for the 28-year-old. He taught himself investment banking and day trading and got a job as a project manager for a mortgage company.

    But he is also in the country illegally

    He’s a fucking criminal.
    End of story.

    If I could possibly migrate to the states in any way shape or form I would be gone, but I can’t do it legally.

    This prick just says fuck you and waltzes in anyway.
    Shoot the prick.

  69. Mother Lode

    Oprah will never run.

    What is it with the Democrats and black women with eating issues?

    Anyway, I think the Oprah thing is just a reassuring fancy to keep the Democrats going.

    It is far to early – what is she going to do for the next three years? Just three years of formulaic reactions to Trump. Trump will engage and, frankly, wipe the floor with her. She will make him look great. Fatigue will set in far sooner. If she were serious (and sensible) she would raise her profile now but not talk Presidency.

    Then, in the last year, make a show of being a reluctant saviour.

    Although, she might have trouble convincing a strong and prosperous of its need to be saved.

  70. What will make the world a better place?

    Cheap abundant energy supply, for all.

    I asked Santa for this in a detailed submission.

    He is yet to respond (or deliver).

  71. Gilas

    The administration said it will give the Salvadorans until Sept. 9, 2019, to leave the United States or find a way to obtain a green card,

    A brilliant plan, any Salvadorans thinking of continue staying in the US illegally have only 21 months to plan to avoid detection.

    Sheer genius!

  72. In other words consensus around what is common sense. But if the consensus of man changes over time? Does that imply god put different thoughts into men’s heads?

    I said nothing about consensus, I said the use of the qualifier ‘natural’ arose coherently out of already existing ideas in classical natural law theory that were simply applied to rights by the School of Salamanca.

    Let’s put it to the test. If they are natural then they should discoverable independently from man.

    How can they be discoverable independently of man? Moreover, why do you think you understand the meaning of ‘natural’ in natural rights when you are ignorant of the tradition such that you could put it to the test?

    Is it a natural right for a woman (or man) to not have to be on the receiving end of unwanted sexual advances? Is it a natural right for a woman (or man) not to be pressured into sex?

    The answers to these as we read in the media on a daily basis is quite different today then it was 20 years ago.

    I’m pretty sure unwanted sexual advances or being pressured into sex were morally problematic 20 years ago but even if they were not, this would still not disprove the existence of natural rights because it is true or false independent of what is believed about sexual assault, etc. at this or that time.

  73. Mater

    What of the phase current imbalance?

    So the protection trips it before it melts…are you any less off supply until the issue is found and fixed?
    Remember, on hot days, many of the protection settings are set to super quick in an effort to stop fire ignitions…Government mandated.
    Always more outages on TFB days, for that exact reason, and they can’t be reenergised until the whole line has been patrolled by a field crew. Very time (and resource) intensive.

  74. zyconoclast

    Taking land should increase food production – Ramaphosa

    Nongoma – South Africa could turn into the ultimate paradise if the implementation of the policy of expropriation of land without compensation leads to higher food production, ANC president Cyril Ramaphosa said in Nongoma, Kwazulu-Natal on Sunday.

    “In fact, it is possible for us to begin a process of working the land and improving agriculture – making it a very successful factor in our country,” Ramaphosa said, addressing King Goodwill Zwelithini at Osuthu Palace – explaining the ANC’s decision to implement a policy of land expropriation.

    It has worked well everywhere else it was tried.
    Holodomor?

  75. struth

    We had a good cheap, reliable in the hot and cold weather power supply only a few years ago.

    That’s all that really needs to be said.

    That’s it.

    They’ve closed down coal and it now can’t cope with people turning on their aircon in summer or business operating.

    That’s the story.

    We subsidies our own destruction.

  76. calli

    Are the turtles really females? Or do they identify as females?

  77. Stimpson J. Cat

    What will make the world a better place?

    A cure for Male Pattern Baldness.
    Anything else is trivial nonsense.

  78. Mental Illness Diversity hires.

    Department of Prime Minister and Cabinet should help you out.

  79. egg_

    They can accept the risk and have power, or they can have it turned off on the very days they want AC.

    Per up thread, Joe Public pays homage to ‘global warming’ virtue signalling, yet puts a cheap Harvey Norman air con/fridge/etc. in his garage workshop and routers on a 45C day in Western Sydney right next to his bloated 2.2-tonne SUV.

  80. Stimpson J. Cat

    Or do they identify as females?

    If turtles can identify as ninjas they can identify as anything.

  81. struth

    Put the bong down, Dover beach.

    But you do make me smile.

    You wally.

  82. Stimpson J. Cat

    “In fact, it is possible for us to begin a process of working the land and improving agriculture – making it a very successful factor in our country,”

    Great idea.
    Those Black Farmers are literally killing it in Zimbabwe.

  83. Joe

    …Joe Public pays homage to ‘global warming’ virtue signalling,…

    Because he has to. The other stuff is just a salve to his bruised ego for having to parrot and agree with what is clearly BS and he knows it.

  84. egg_

    So the protection trips it before it melts…

    Precisely.

  85. Tel

    A cure for Male Pattern Baldness.

    I understand there’s a cure for Male Pattern Masculinity if you are interested, but you need to start taking it early and quite likely it also changes hair growth as well as a few errrr other things.

  86. Arky

    Are the turtles really females? Or do they identify as females

    ..
    They are only pretending to be female so they can take over.
    It’s a mock turtle coupe.

  87. Stimpson J. Cat

    How can they be discoverable independently of man?

    Again, there is only one natural right.
    Oxygen.
    That’s it.

  88. Dover , I am not having a philosophical argument today based on what is basically a play on words and a practice that sends the academic mind into the insanity it becomes.
    It is too simple, and you twist words to just keep talking, for talking sake.
    This is how academics make money, but are too dumb to realise it ends up making them eccentric and suffering muddled thinking.

    Struth, in what world is it at all appropriate to call me a liar and dissembler, then pretend you don’t want to continue yesterday’s argument but then type about ten paragraphs prosecuting that same argument? Seriously.

  89. zyconoclast

    Scotland considers giving refugees and asylum seekers the right to vote

    The Scottish Government is planning to let refugees and asylum seekers vote in the national elections. Holyrood in Edinburgh was given new powers over running elections under the 2016 Scotland Act – and ministers are planning widespread changes.

    A public consultation has been launched mooting the voting franchise for Scottish Parliament and council elections should include ‘everyone legally resident in Scotland.’ The move is being supported by the Scottish Refugee Council Now only British, Commonwealth and EU citizens who are resident in Scotland and are 16 or older can vote in Holyrood and council elections.

    But Green MSP Ross Greer, the party’s external affairs spokesman, said refugees and asylum seekers who have chosen to come to Scotland should have a voice. He told the i: ‘Our history of taking in those in need of a safe home is a long one and continues today ‘It was only a few weeks ago we celebrated the 2,000th Syrian refugee to be settled here. ‘What better way could we show refugees and asylum seekers that they truly are welcome and that Scotland is their home than by giving them the right to vote?’

    He added: ‘It is only right that all those who live here and are affected by decisions made locally or nationally have a say in choosing those who make the decisions. A Scottish Government spokeswoman said: ‘As set out in our Consultation on Electoral Reform, we are seeking views on extending who can vote in Scottish Parliament and local government elections, to include more people who are citizens of other countries but who have chosen to live here in Scotland. ‘We agree that Scotland is a welcoming country, and we will carefully consider the call to give asylum seekers and refugees the opportunity to vote in elections where we have power to determine the franchise.’

    Vote heards are real.

  90. stackja

    The Seventies: The sex freakout – CNN – CNN.com
    edition.cnn.com/2015/07/21/opinions/kohn-seventies-sexual-revolution/index.html
    Jul 21, 2015 – The sexual revolution, the women’s movement and the gay liberation movement combined to make the 1970s an era of cultural change.

    Now we have have what? #metoo!

  91. Mater

    Precisely.

    Egg. I’ve seen enough destroyed cables and incinerated joints, to know that it doesn’t always work that way.

  92. struth

    Being a female turtle means never having to drag your balls over the hot sand when you hatch.

    The males turtles are therefore much faster to the water and picked up by the waiting birds first.

  93. Mother Lode

    Hope I am not too late:

    Fuck off, Grargoolry.

  94. Stimpson J. Cat

    ‘What better way could we show refugees and asylum seekers that they truly are welcome and that Scotland is their home than by giving them the right to vote?’

    Kilt cucking junkie scum that they are.
    The British should have gone harder on these idiots.

  95. Arky

    Mock turtle coupe.
    As you know, is a two door car driven by a transvestite turtle.
    I meant a mock turtle coup.
    Where transvestite turtles violently overthrow the existing turtle regime.

  96. struth

    Struth, in what world is it at all appropriate to call me a liar and dissembler, then pretend you don’t want to continue yesterday’s argument but then type about ten paragraphs prosecuting that same argument? Seriously.

    Because yesterday, it went on most of the day.
    So I covered what needed to be said today, and that’s it.
    I’ve been gas bagging on about other more interesting things like turtle’s balls.

  97. Stimpson J. Cat

    I understand there’s a cure for Male Pattern Masculinity if you are interested, but you need to start taking it early and quite likely it also changes hair growth as well as a few errrr other things.

    Ritalin definitely stunted my growth.

  98. egg_

    I’ve seen enough destroyed cables and incinerated joints, to know that it doesn’t always work that way.

    Of course, and switch rooms can explode.

  99. struth

    By the way, I didn’t call you a liar at anytime Dover beach.

  100. Mater

    Of course, and switch rooms can explode.

    Always leave the door open! 😉

  101. zyconoclast

    Italy’s rightist bloc vows to reverse pension law if elected

    ROME (Reuters) – Italy’s rightist parties agreed on Sunday to the outlines of a joint manifesto for the country’s March national election, including pledges to slash taxes, crack down on migrants and reverse planned increases to the retirement age.

    Former Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi’s Forza Italia party, and its two allies, the far-right Northern League and Brothers of Italy, look set to win the March 4 vote, but are expected to fall short of an absolute majority.

  102. Arky

    look, I know it isn’t pronounced to rhyme with “soup”.
    I have been racking my brain for a turtle pun this last hour.
    It’s all I had.

  103. Bruce in WA

    Thinking of “journalists” and their fact-checking of President Trump’s Red Nuclear Button, reminds me of this:

    ‘A journalist’s guide to guns’

  104. I have been racking my brain for a turtle pun this last hour.

    When they return to the sea – Turtle recall

    or

    Turtle devastation

  105. Leigh Lowe

    feelthebern

    #2605426, posted on January 9, 2018 at 1:32 pm

    You’re right LL.
    It would open Sinc up to a lot of grief.
    Hence the references/innuendo.
    Considering Grig has internet access (how else could he blog here), I wonder why he’s so keen for it to be posted here.

    Correct.
    Googlery is constantly regoogltating stuff from the net so he can go look it up.
    Or, alternatively, he could eat a dick.

    JC

    #2605427, posted on January 9, 2018 at 1:33 pm

    Leigh

    If it’s her father I think he’s dead and slander laws etc can’t be applied for a dead person I think.

    Possibly so.
    But why take the risk just to satisfy the stalker?

  106. egg_

    Of course, and switch rooms can explode.

    Telco 50V bus bars are another high current hazard.

  107. JC

    John C

    JC

    I think you are wrong in so far as I think we have been through peak impeachment, that is why the 25th amendment crap keeps bubbling up recently.

    I suspect that Trump pretty much knows how the Inspector General and House and Senate Intelligence and Judiciary Committees are going to find and it won’t be nice for the Dems. More documents and testimony is coming in almost daily and they are all disastrous for the Deep State players, senior Dems and the Clinton Campaign.

    I reckon by the end of the month the MSM will shift its rhetoric towards from Trump is crazy to he is a threat to a constitutional republic for investigating alleged crimes by Deep State members and key people in the Hillary Clinton team.

    Once that shift happens you know Trump has destroyed them all.

    My guess is the pendulum swings decisively towards Trump by the end of January.

    I hope you’re right.

    I get the feeling though that the impeachment hoax isn’t over and as I said, the D’rats will go all out in trying the besmirch Trump right to the election.

  108. Arky

    turtle recall

    ..
    Awful.
    Hang your head in shame.

  109. Arky

    Who is the cat who is resident in Taiwan?

  110. egg_

    When they return to the sea – Turtle recall

    or

    Turtle devastation

    Turtley awesome, dude!

  111. thefrolickingmole

    zyconoclast

    No possible downside to that idea, its a wonder it hasnt been tried before..

  112. zyconoclast

    Never heard of this before.

    The Duluth Model: The theoretical basis for the feminist approach to domestic violence

    The cornerstone of the feminist approach to domestic violence is known as the ‘Duluth Model’, which is often illustrated as follows:

    The Duluth Model is “based in feminist theory positing that domestic violence is the result of patriarchal ideology in which men are encouraged and expected to control their partners”.

  113. struth

    Donnatello is now just Donna, and the Mutant Minj-a Turtlesses prefer to be know as alphabet soup and not by the degratory , paternalist “turtle” soup.
    If threatened with gender hurt speech, they will withdraw into safe spaces Gaia has provided each one.

  114. Rae

    You’re right LL.
    It would open Sinc up to a lot of grief.

    Nah he’s wrong actually. You can’t defame a dead person.

    Had he still been alive, then your opening comment contained more than enough innuendo to constitute defamation.

  115. JC;

    Filing interesting comments doesn’t take that much time. It also comes in useful when your pals deny something. How’s the implant working?

    The transplant is working splendidly, thanks JC.
    I went pig/goat shooting a few weeks ago, walked a couple of dozen miles through river beds over a few days and was able to keep up with the 30 – 40 aged blokes, even in the heat around Julia Creek.
    No pigs or goats seen, except when driving.
    Did have a good feed of home cooked and smoked pig ribs, while drinking beer and waiting for the car to be serviced at Julia Creek, but.

  116. Mother Lode

    South Africa could turn into the ultimate paradise if the implementation of the policy of expropriation of land without compensation leads to higher food production

    South Africa could turn into the ultimate paradise if the implementation of the policy of slaughtering chickens and sprinkling the blood leads to higher food production.

    South Africa could turn into the ultimate paradise if the implementation of the policy of opening parliament with the Beatles tune “Twist and Shout” while wearing pointy hats and nothing else leads to higher food production.

    South Africa could turn into the ultimate paradise if the implementation of the policy of selling all agricultural production overseas and then buying it all back at half the price leads to higher food production.

    I have heard that the Out of Africa migration by early humans was driven as a response to food scarcity. The ones who stayed behind in Africa were the ones that never fully grasped the food security thing and are the ancestor of the modern Africans .

  117. Zatara

    I get the feeling though that the impeachment hoax isn’t over and as I said, the D’rats will go all out in trying the besmirch Trump right to the election.

    As long as the impeachment BS gets airtime for certain Dems who otherwise are non-entities it will continue.

    In a media environment not poisoned by the MSM they would be laughed out of the newsroom as there is absolutely no basis for the impeachment calls except to fire up the weak-minded.

    Likewise, the Dems will try to trash Trump as long as the MSM gives them airtime to do it. It’s a true no–brainer as it costs them nothing to do it but keeps the ignorant on-side.

  118. The Moribund Barking Toad

    Weatherdill will be hoping Elon’s batteries work better than his rockets…

    An expensive, highly classified US spy satellite is presumed to be a total loss after it failed to reach orbit atop a Space Exploration Technologies Corporation rocket, according to industry and government officials.

    Politicians and congressional staffers from the Senate and the House have been briefed about the botched mission, some of the officials said. The secret payload — codenamed Zuma and launched from Florida on board a Falcon 9 rocket on Sunday US time — is believed to have plummeted back into the atmosphere, they said, because it didn’t separate as planned from the upper part of the rocket.

    Once the engine powering the rocket’s expendable second stage stops firing, whatever it is carrying is supposed to separate and proceed on its own trajectory. If a satellite isn’t set free at the right time or is damaged upon release, it can be dragged back toward earth.

    The lack of details about what occurred means that some other possible sequence of events other than a failed separation may have been the culprit.

    For rapidly growing SpaceX, which seeks to establish itself as a reliable, low-cost launch provider for the Pentagon, the failed mission came at an important juncture. The company is competing for more national-security launches against its primary rival, a joint venture between Boeing Co. and Lockheed Martin Corp.

  119. zyconoclast

    CEO Of Pr0n-Focused Cryptocurrency Disappears With Investors’ Money

    The burgeoning market for initial coin offerings is rife with fraud and abuse thanks to unscrupulous people like the creator of FMtokens, a coin designed as a means for paying performers for live webcam chats. The New York Post reported Monday that investors in FMtokens – which purportedly raised just shy of $5 million – are complaining that the company’s shadowy CEO, Jonatha Lucas, has absconded with their money while refusing to deliver the promised tokens.

    Lucas aimed to raise as much as $25 million, according to an investment plan.

  120. Rae. Cease, desist and leave the area immediately.

  121. Snoopy

    Research indicates that during the Little Ice Age 99% of green sea turtles hatched were male. They all had a gay old time and the species survived.

  122. Boambee John

    test pattern at 1309

    The hardcore racists in the NT congregate around the NT Fights facebook, a

    Albeit there are also some in the aboriginal “industry” who blame everything bad on white people?

  123. JC

    Good to hear. I guess the pigs were lucky that time around.

    You may have missed it. Ronery, Fault and another wanker who I forget frequently accused me of dobbing in a commenter to his employer. They continued to do so even after the commenter demanded they cease these accusation, as it wasn’t me.

    If you find it interesting I file various comments from time to time that I may use at a later date, you ought to be asking these loons why they continued with their slander even after they were asked to stop and it was obviously untrue You may also want to ask them what it’s like to cop a hiding on a blog and then when their lying causes them to be threatened with being booted. Only then did they stop the slandering. Nice pals you have, Winston. Top rated people. They are an adornment to this site.

  124. lotocoti

    Our history of taking in those in need of a safe home is a long one

    The Glencoe MacDonalds were not available for comment.

  125. Mother Lode

    ‘What better way could we show refugees and asylum seekers that they truly are welcome and that Scotland is their home than by giving them the right to vote?’

    If only they had thought to extend the offer to the Germans prior to WW2, handing Britain over to anyone who wanted it, they could have avoided all that unpleasantness.

  126. uh oh.

    zyconoclast
    #2605518, posted on January 9, 2018 at 2:36 pm
    Oprah Winfrey delivers young women to Harvey Weistein’s home.
    What they did was none of my business.

    I’m calling b. s.

  127. uh oh.

    I’m calling b. s.

    Unless it was intended as a pisstake.

  128. zyconoclast

    Superannuation: Australians increasingly dipping into super to pay medical bills

    In 2000-2001 about $42 million was released early from the superannuation system under compassionate grounds.

    By 2016-2017 that had increased to $290 million, according to data from the Federal Treasury.

    Michael Gannon, from the Australian Medical Association (AMA), said most of those superannuation funds were being spent on bariatric surgery to help people lose weight, and in vitro fertilisation (IVF).

  129. Mother Lode

    Turtley awesome, dude!

    I think she has tortoise something quite new.

  130. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Superannuation: Australians increasingly dipping into super to pay medical bills

    Good. That is exactly what Super should be for.

    Superannuation should be accessed from day 1 of contributions to pay for healthcare.

  131. Gilas

    struth
    #2605360, posted on January 9, 2018 at 12:35 pm

    We talk about the bleeding obvious.
    They are screwing us and we must get it through our heads that it is planned.
    I have fought hard.
    Many on this blog have.
    But if you are reading this and you haven’t, why not?

    Settle down struth, the beige cardigan wearers here might get rattled and stumble off their comfy slippers.

    Not to worry though, a nice cuppa warm tea, milk and biscuits should settle them down again… real good.

  132. Snoopy

    Who is the cat who is resident in Taiwan?

    Combine Dave?

  133. Baldrick

    incoherent rambler
    #2605515, posted on January 9, 2018 at 2:31 pm
    Rae. Cease, desist and leave the area immediately.

    You’re too kind IR.
    Fuck off Grig Stain

  134. Arky

    The turtles are doing it on porpoise.

  135. Des Deskperson

    Meanwhile, the University of Canberra – an institution that exists solely so that senior APS people can boast at dinner parties that their dull and underparented kiddies are at university, even if it is only ‘sports medicine’ – has bowed to pressure from PETA and will cancel its ‘petting zoos’ during 2018. In 2017, the students had been able to pat puppies and cuddle chickens during ‘stress-less weeks’ — a program designed to calm nerves ahead of exams.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-09/university-cancels-stress-less-petting-zoo-after-peta-complaint/9314396

    There is so many varieties of unworldly buffoonery covered here that it is hard to know where to start in terms of any critical analysis. I assume, BTW, that the animal pettees were funded by the taxpayer.

  136. Oh come on

    Settle down Grigs.
    You don’t get angry remember?

    He does when he feels someone’s holding back critical information that could assist him with his stalking activities. In that case it’s nought to one hundred in milliseconds!

  137. Baldrick

    Superannuation: Australians increasingly dipping into super to pay medical bills

    From the link, the Stupid.Fucking.Liberals will stuff it up somehow …

    Finance Minister Kelly O’Dwyer has ordered a review into the early release of superannuation, with a report due in March.

  138. JC

    Matt Ridely, who was frequently slandered by pretend climate scientist (but really just a computer technician), Tim Lambert, has a really good piece in the Oz talking about.. what else.. the climate.

    I’ve always thought that if there was anything to be concerned about the climate, it would be cooling rather than gerbil warming. That’s the side that kills and it kills in huge numbers. If there is cooling going on and Ridely seems to be worried about it, we’d better pray to God that it’s slight because otherwise we’re fucked. More than half the world’s population could be wiped out.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/the-times/global-cooling-a-reality-but-technology-will-help-earth-survive/news-story/aa8ad1725f08ee44d4b2e71af07e6fe8

    Matt seems to be optimistic that our technology would help us cope with it. I’m not so sure when you have a large number of Malthusian nutjobs wanting to de-industrialize industrial civilization.

    It’s interesting, because before Birdie went spastic he was always warning about the world tending toward cooling phases, which he claimed is where the risk really is.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/the-times/global-cooling-a-reality-but-technology-will-help-earth-survive/news-story/aa8ad1725f08ee44d4b2e71af07e6fe8

  139. Oh come on

    I’ve got some red hot dirt on Lady Gaga’s dad! The filthy blighter…

  140. egg_

    Tim Lambert

    The Deltoid f-wit from ‘Newcastle TAFE’?

  141. stackja

    ALP created medical bills, ALP created superannuation to pay for medical bills.

  142. JC

    egg_
    #2605545, posted on January 9, 2018 at 3:18 pm

    Tim Lambert

    The Deltoid f-wit from ‘Newcastle TAFE’?

    In my opinion one of the most dishonest would be academics in the past 100 years. A true shocker.

  143. Oh come on

    Lady Gaga likes wearing skin tight leather. What a coincidence!

  144. Rae

    Rae. Cease, desist and leave the area immediately.

    You already said that.

  145. Stimpson J. Cat

    Tucker Carlson
    @TuckerCarlson

    3h

    James Damore’s lawsuit against Google has a lot of interesting material from inside the company:
    Page 27, Footnote 3: “For instance, an employee who sexually identifies as ‘a yellow-scaled wingless dragonkin’ and ‘an expansive ornate building’ presented a talk entitled ‘Living as a Plural Being’ at an internal company event.”

  146. calli

    Unlike some of the “look at me don’t look at me” slappers at the GGs, Kidman looked demure. Her speech was Virtue Signal Central though. Such a shame.

  147. Stimpson J. Cat

    Lady Gaga likes wearing skin tight leather.

    It’s better than wearing skin tight skin leather.
    Am I right Grigs?

  148. Howard Hill

    Wrong crowd.

    Settle down struth, the beige cardigan wearers here might get rattled and stumble off their comfy slippers.

    Ah ha. I get it now ;~)

  149. Baldrick

    Libby Zee
    #2354346, posted on April 14, 2017 at 7:46 pm
    I do like Lady Gaga
    ___

    Grigory M
    #2286627, posted on February 6, 2017 at 12:29 pm
    Gaga – oo la la – she is amazing. Excellent Half Time Show.

  150. Stimpson J. Cat

    Such a shame.

    She’s a ginga.
    What do you expect?

  151. Snoopy

    wingless dragonkin

    Is that a circumcised cock?

  152. Oh come on

    Hahaha was Lambert the guy who turned out to be an exam invigilator? As in, someone who told students when to turn their papers over and start writing, when time’s up and pencils down etc? He liked to claim he was a university employee and traded on the assumption that he was an academic.

    Maybe it wasn’t Lambert but if not it was someone affiliated with him.

  153. Mother Lode

    It’s better than wearing skin tight skin leather.

    I am sure Gargoylery will demur to give a simplistic ‘yes/no’ answer.

    He would be conscious of many important considerations. Whose skin, which lotions, buttons up the front or a zipper down the back, etc.

  154. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Unlike some of the “look at me don’t look at me” slappers at the GGs, Kidman looked demure. Her speech was Virtue Signal Central though. Such a shame.

    Considering Kidman is now 93% botox it is amazing she can speak at all.

  155. cohenite

    The head prefect has linked to one of Tom Ridley’s articles about future, indeed current cooling. TSI, the measure of solar radiation has been decreasing since about 2003. A declining sun allows more cosmic rays to enter Earth’s atmosphere. The effect of increasing CR on Earth is a cooling one with blocking of the Jet Stream creating the freezing conditions now being enjoyed in the US. The takeaway message is invest in furs, insulation and energy sources which really work.

    The current hot weather in SE Australia is also due to a blocking weather pattern whereby hot interior air is trapped on the mid North and Southern coasts. This is also typical of a cooling world with a negative phase PDO dominating.

    So, once again, JC is on the ball.

  156. Oh come on

    Hrm maybe it wasn’t Lambert. IIRC, the guy I’m thinking of turned out to work in the uni library. I remember flaying him mercilessly when he began crapping on about “my students” because he’d been invigilating exam sessions during the end of semester exam period. No they aren’t your students. You just clean up their coffee cup stains, put their books back on the shelves for them and tell them when they have 10 more minutes to finish their assessment.

  157. Oh come on

    Lady Gaga manages to combine being a freak and being utterly boring. You can see why Grigs has such an affinity with her.

  158. zyconoclast

    Considering Kidman is now 93% botox it is amazing she can speak at all.

    Anyone can speak using the sock puppet method.

  159. Mother Lode

    You just clean up their coffee cup stains, put their books back on the shelves for them and tell them when they have 10 more minutes to finish their assessment.

    After that rather dire news about PETA’s campaign coming out of Canberra, invigilators may soon be required to be cuddly and soothing.

  160. C.L.

    Interesting.
    The public – especially women – is turning on the Spicer Squad:

    No ticket refunds for Rocky Horror as punters criticise McLachlan’s departure.

    Punters have reacted strongly to the news of McLachlan’s departure, with the majority of posts on the production’s Facebook page criticising his replacement before allegations had been proven by the law.

    “I want my money back if Craig is not going to be in it. He was why I was going!!! What ever happen [sic] to innocent until proven guilty …” wrote Andrea Clark.

    “So guilty until proven innocent, hey!” Justine Costello wrote.

    Punters posting about the Brisbane production also called for their money back, citing McLachlan as their motive for buying tickets.

    “Only reason I was going was to see Craig in the role and as I’m going the night after opening I would expect he was on that night had not all this happened,” Christine McNeil Dickson wrote on Facebook.

    “The only reason I bought 4 tickets was because of Craig. I really feel it would not be the same with an understudy. If we can’t get full refunds we should at least get some compensation,” Mark Gore wrote.

    ABC Online did find one woman who is glad the rule of law has been suspended in Australia to allow the Spicer Squad to do its work:

    “Relieved to see that my daughter and I will not have to watch Craig McLachlan and wonder if he is assaulting or harassing his co-worker. If there is anything the last few months have taught us it is that we need to start from a position of listening and believing victims,” Augusta Woods wrote.

  161. cohenite

    Hahaha was Lambert the guy who turned out to be an exam invigilator?

    Lambert debated Monckton and made a fist of it albeit by using trickery.

  162. Stimpson J. Cat

    Considering Kidman is now 93% botox it is amazing she can speak at all.

    She is literally becoming Aussie Barbie.

  163. Leigh Lowe

    Rae

    #2605508, posted on January 9, 2018 at 2:28 pm

    Had he still been alive, then your opening comment contained more than enough innuendo to constitute defamation.

    So why ask the baited question then if you had already figured out?
    Clean the stains off your mummy’s nightie, put it back on and go suck on a tin of Light Ice, loser.

  164. C.L.

    Liberal Party: it’s not your money.

    Early access to super only for ‘seriously ill’

    Australians should only be allowed early access to their super if they suffer from financial hardship or are seriously ill, says Kelly O’Dwyer.

  165. Oh come on

    “I want my money back if Craig is not going to be in it. He was why I was going!!! What ever happen [sic] to innocent until proven guilty …” wrote Andrea Clark.

    “So guilty until proven innocent, hey!” Justine Costello wrote.

    Punters posting about the Brisbane production also called for their money back, citing McLachlan as their motive for buying tickets.

    “Only reason I was going was to see Craig in the role and as I’m going the night after opening I would expect he was on that night had not all this happened,” Christine McNeil Dickson wrote on Facebook.

    It seems sanity still prevails in some quarters. There may be more hope for us than I thought.

  166. She is literally becoming Aussie Barbie.

    Are Ken and Barbie still missing the bits under the shorts?

  167. Leigh Lowe

    Settle down Grigs.
    You don’t get angry remember?

    He, he.
    Between furiously jacking into mummy’s nightie, he has been trying to bait several people into explicitly posting legally dubious stuff.
    Everyone has dutifully put the bat over the shoulder and refused to play.
    Grig look stupid.
    Grig angry.
    Grig very angry.
    Grig going to talk to mummy’s rocking chair.

  168. Leigh Lowe

    ANU … has bowed to pressure from PETA and will cancel its ‘petting zoos’ during 2018. In 2017, the students had been able to pat puppies and cuddle chickens during ‘stress-less weeks’ — a program designed to calm nerves ahead of exams.

    So I guess cock-fighting is cancelled then?

  169. So I guess cock-fighting is cancelled then?

    Yep. And I was looking forward to taking out the prize in the heavyweight division.

  170. calli

    A University has a petting zoo for stressed students? Did I read that right?

    What do these poor poppets think the workplace will be like?

    Educated into imbecility.

  171. JC

    So, once again, JC is on the ball.

    Yep, unlike you Cohenite who was yesterday denying your own words. Sad.

    Lambert debated Monckton and made a fist of it albeit by using trickery.

    Monckton was excellent and lambert lied. Having said that I recall you went to Lambert’s blog and he ripped you apart. You were terrible. Terrible. It was embarrassing for the sceptic side.

  172. lotocoti

    She is literally becoming Aussie Barbie.

    Wait a minute, wait a minute.
    I’ve got it!
    A remake of American Mary.
    Australian Mary.
    Rebel Wilson as Mary
    Our Nic as Ruby Realgirl.
    Craig McLachlan as Dr Grant.
    We could bilk Film Australia for millions.

  173. the sceptic side

    Not sure it exists.

    I see it as reason versus the believers.

  174. egg_

    Considering Kidman is now 93% botox it is amazing she can speak at all.

    Her skin must be stretched tighter than one of Grig’s skin suits.

    Perhaps, she can become a customer?

  175. Baldrick

    Rebel Wilson as Mary
    Our Nic as Ruby Realgirl.
    Craig McLachlan as Dr Grant.

    It’s not an Australian filum unless it also has Bryan Brown starring as the quintessential Aussie larrikin.

  176. Makka

    Perhaps, she can become a customer?

    Grigsie will need to have the proper PPE to remove that particular pelt.

  177. egg_

    The current hot weather in SE Australia is also due to a blocking weather pattern whereby hot interior air is trapped on the mid North and Southern coasts. This is also typical of a cooling world with a negative phase PDO dominating.

    From previous, the source of the recent dreaded heat.

  178. Tel

    A University has a petting zoo for stressed students? Did I read that right?

    What do these poor poppets think the workplace will be like?

    In another 10 years petting zoos will be come compulsory across every business, in order to prevent sexism, racism, etc. Go long on shit management equipment while the window is still open.

  179. I wonder how long before Ultra Heat™ and Ultra-Extreme Heat™
    Extreme is just about worn out.

  180. C.L.

    A University has a petting zoo for stressed students? Did I read that right?

    A petting uni for distressed animals would be a better idea.
    You could throw an edgy lion a women’s studies major or two. That sort of thing.

  181. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

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  182. ABC- Australia’s only openly gay Imam says he is dealing with an “avalanche of misery” among LGBTI Muslims, and wants to create a safe house and counselling(sic) centre for them.

    Avalanche of misery. We have seen what that is.

  183. lotocoti

    It’s not an Australian filum unless it also has Bryan Brown …

    He can play Ruby Realgirl’s hubby (who goes berserk when he finds out all her fun bits have been given the Barbie treatment).

  184. Infidel Tiger 2.0 (Premium Content Subscribers Only)

    Overtime TD in the National College Champos:

    https://twitter.com/_TailgateSports/status/950595943287656448

    Holy cow.

  185. Oh come on

    Perhaps, she can become a customer?

    Likely why his ears pricked up so sharpish. He’s always on the lookout for vulnerable females with daddy issues.

  186. Oh come on

    A University has a petting zoo for stressed students? Did I read that right?

    And just when you thought it couldn’t get any more pathetic than this…you learn that they cancelled the petting zoo because of pressure from PETA!

  187. Lysander

    Australians should only be allowed early access to their super if they suffer from financial hardship or are seriously ill, says Kelly O’Dwyer.

    Define “financial hardship.”

  188. Bruce in WA

    Tim Lambert

    The Deltoid f-wit from ‘Newcastle TAFE’?

    I had some knockdown, drag-out, no holds barred fights (figuratively, not literally) with that slimy, self-aggrandizing xunt after Port Arthur and the NFA back in 1996. Thinks his shit doesn’t smell — but his farts give him away!

  189. DrBeauGan

    Struth, I don’t care for the language of ‘rights’. It is unclear what the word means, and the whole framework is vulnerable to abuse. People use the term in different ways and muddle ensues.

    Having said that, I shall continue my custom of saying anything I wish, subject only to the condition that it is true. If I say something believing it to be true and it turns out to be false, I shall withdraw it and submit gracefully to appropriate penalties.

    Now your view seems to be that rights are social constructs and in view of section 18c and the ssm laws, our right to deny that two blokes can be married has been withdrawn. It no longer exists.

    Dover’s view is that the right exists but the government no longer recognises it and can fine us or jail us for exercising it.

    The difference in these positions is that if we follow you, we have no case for fighting for our quondam rights save atavism. We are just too stuck in our old fashioned ways to make the change. If we follow Dover, the right inheres in our humanity and we can fight for it with gusto.

    The main problem with your position is that it doesn’t explain where ‘rights’ come from. If they don’t exist prior to their societal recognition, why did they spring into existence suddenly? Dover claims they inhere in our humanity and a sufficiently advanced society simply recognises them. This is a coherent position. I don’t think your position is.

  190. Atoms for Peace

    I’m thinking that Hollyweird should get back to it’s roots in schlock horror B grade films.
    “The Creatures from the Black Lagoon ” or should that be swamp ? All female cast of course

  191. zyconoclast

    So I guess cock-fighting is cancelled then?

    Yep. And I was looking forward to taking out the prize in the heavyweight division.

    You and Jacqui Lambie.

  192. cohenite

    Monckton was excellent and lambert lied. Having said that I recall you went to Lambert’s blog and he ripped you apart. You were terrible. Terrible. It was embarrassing for the sceptic side.

    Fortunately we now have you.

  193. Mater

    From:
    An Introduction to Underground and Submarine Cable Maintenance

    2.3 CABLE IMPACTS. The major cause of electric failure is the breakdown of insulation. Even under normal conditions, an electrical cable experiences stresses that will gradually weaken it, leading to failure…

    2.3.1 CABLE LOADING. …The actual temperature conditions affecting the cable become an important consideration. Added loads and variable loads affect cable temperatures both directly and indirectly.

    2.3.1.1 DIRECTLY. In general, the higher the temperature, the faster the rate of deterioration in the physical properties of the insulation, including formation of voids in solid-type or paper-insulated cable…A shorttime large overload, and accompanying high temperature, can produce aging of insulation equivalent to operation for a longer time at a smaller overload…

    2.3.1.2 INDIRECTLY. The temperature of the soil adjacent to a buried cable or conduit system must also be considered as affecting the cable life. If cable temperatures become high enough, the moisture in the soil will migrate away from the cable causing a considerable increase in the soil thermal resistivity. This may lead to thermal instability of the soil and further increase it thermal resistivity which, in turn, may cause excessive cable temperatures and, perhaps, even cable failure.

    2.3.2 CABLE INSULATION FAILURE. Underground primary distribution cable with solid-dielectric insulation have experienced a high rate of electrical failure…

    2.4 TERMINATION AND SPLICING IMPACTS. Terminations and splices are usually the weakest point in a cable system, and the cable system is usually the weakest link in an electrical system…

  194. Atoms for Peace

    We should donate the cat’s sock puppets to the petting zoo. On second thoughts, who’d want to pet a room full of George and Mildreds.

  195. egg_

    And just when you thought it couldn’t get any more pathetic than this…you learn that they cancelled the petting zoo because of pressure from PETA!

    People who Eat Tasty Animals?
    You can eat them afterwards?

  196. Herodotus

    Possibly posted already, Melanie Phillips in The Oz has a go at various Hollywood virtue signallers.
    I particularly liked this section:

    Laura Dern used her acceptance speech for her best supporting actress award to urge: “May we teach our children that speaking out without the fear of retribution is our culture’s new north star.”

    Yet the causes regularly promoted by such luvvies — climate change, Black Lives Matter, anti-colonialism, anti-Islamophobia, LGBT issues — are being advanced by condign retribution, such as character assassination or social and professional ostracism, against any who dares speak against them.

    Moreover, Hollywood’s finest don’t don black outfits to protest against men in the developing world who not only abuse but slaughter women, men and children.

    Millions of women around the world really do suffer in cultures where male violence towards women is a given; but on those victims, these Hollywood hypocrites are silent.

  197. zyconoclast

    I wonder how long before Ultra Heat™ and Ultra-Extreme Heat™
    Extreme is just about worn out.

    That’s why we have Ludicrous Heat™

  198. JC

    Get a load of Tom Hanks deflecting Weinstein Hollywood by suggesting the Industry is at the cutting edge in terms of eliminating harassment. Hanks suggests it’s happening everywhere in every industry in America.

    No it’s not… the dishonest prick… it occurs nothing like it does in Hollywood.

    Just before the 4 min mark.

  199. zyconoclast

    Australians should only be allowed early access to their super if they suffer from financial hardship or are seriously ill, says Kelly O’Dwyer.

    Define “financial hardship.”

    You can no longer afford the Supersize Big Mac meals to maintain your obesity.
    Therefore you need to access your superannuation to get bariatric surgery.

  200. JC

    cohenite
    #2605605, posted on January 9, 2018 at 4:34 pm

    Monckton was excellent and lambert lied. Having said that I recall you went to Lambert’s blog and he ripped you apart. You were terrible. Terrible. It was embarrassing for the sceptic side.

    Fortunately we now have you.

    The poisonous climate troll always lost to me. But what a sad candidate you turned out to be whenever you tried to debate him. I’m not saying it to put you down, Cohenite. I think we’re mature enough to take criticism. Boy you were terrible debating him. He hated me because I always beat him up badly. He pitied you.

  201. Stimpson J. Cat

    or are seriously ill

    Mental Illness is serious.
    Give me my f$cking Super now.

  202. Leo G

    If it’s her father I think he’s dead and slander laws etc can’t be applied for a dead person I think.

    However, the members of the family of a deceased person may sue if the statement defaming the deceased also indirectly defames any living members of the family. (Precedent: Krahe v TCN Channel Nine (1986) 4 NSWLR 536, 541)

  203. Leigh Lowe

    However, the members of the family of a deceased person may sue if the statement defaming the deceased also indirectly defames any living members of the family. (Precedent: Krahe v TCN Channel Nine (1986) 4 NSWLR 536, 541)

    Yes, Leo, that is what I was thinking.
    It would not be a stretch to suggest that a high profile celebrity could claim reputational damage via publication of something which tarnishes the family name.
    Fortunately, everyone here is just that little bit more street-smart than basement boy, Grigs.

  204. egg_

    Can someone advise the temperature variance at 600 mm underground for ambient and transient air temperatures of o deg C, 20 deg C, 40 deg C and 45 deg C.

    One a side note, in a former life as an OEM test manager, whilst load testing underground mining equipment trailing cables for motor starting currents (double the real run power, phase corrected) I noted a 2-3C momentary rise in cable temp via the sheath in c. 70? m coiled cable as calculated, which quickly returned to ambient, over several start tests (from previous, we were testing 60 Hz export mining equipment via a hired 60 Hz film set Gen-set).

  205. Leigh Lowe

    I noted a 2-3C momentary rise in cable temp via the sheath in c. 70? m coiled cable as calculated

    Is “coiled” the key word there?

  206. JC

    This is me at Lambert’s pathetic excuse for a blog. He changed sites – announcing it by putting up a pick of himself during Halloween, presumably. The little troll is wearing sandals in late November posing to suggest he’s a geek. Honestly, I don’t think he’s taller than 4′.8″!

    Blogger anon said…

    Lambert: That pose is illustrative of your contribution to scientific discourse, you dishonest poisonous troll.

    Remember Bernard J, Cohenite. He’s still there blowing him.

    30 December 2017 at 22:04 Delete
    Blogger Bernard J. said…

    Hi Tim, just wondering if the Deltoid archive exists anwhere that will be accessible at some point in the future, or if it now remains just in Google’s memory?

    Oh, and happy new year to all – and a hope for the previous two posters that they might recover from their bilious anti-scientific antipathy.

    My reply to Bernie J

    1 January 2018 at 08:10
    Blogger anon said…

    Fuck off Bernie, you slob. Lambert has been lying through his teeth over the years. He ought to be hanging his head in shame just like you.

    Then this came up. A total leftist loon.

    1 January 2018 at 15:12 Delete
    Blogger Jpio said…

    This blog has not even propertly risen from the dead and the mentally deranged, retarded denier trolls are here already. One of them, Jonass, who played a major part in killing off the blog, like a psychopath has come back to revisit the scene of his crime. Anon is one of those simpletons who thinks that Tim lambert has lied about global warming but others like Monkton, Plimer, Carter etc. have told the truth _ he probably thinks that Fox News and what the Trumpanzee tweets are real facts while everything else is just fake news. The proof of that is that the Trumpanzee said so, so it must be true.

    I mean, this has got to be a pretty good argument against the existence of God: Would an omnipotent god have created so many retarded and intellectually dishonest Trump adoring, global warming deniers who will be responsible for turning the planet, and the rest of his creation, into some hell hole not conducive to life. Well, that’ll be the reality for the majority of the world’s population _ those in the third world who are too poor to move anywhere and who won’t be able to feed themselves because their crops will either get flooded out due to more intense rain events or not grow at all because of extended droughts. And that’s if their bodies can endure the extreme heat waves. In the first world, their economies will be fucked due to more regular destructive cyclonic events like the US has recently seen, combined with sea level rise making trillions of dollars of coastal properties worthless.

    Of course, this is only a mental scenario of likely outcomes of our current trajectory if nothing is done. There’s always the slim chance that our Trump loving, simpleton deniers will be cast aside and totally ignored and rendered politically impotent _ much like a mentally ill person off his meds standing by the side of a busy highway gesticulating, shouting, talking to himself and exposing himself would be ignored, until someone calls the guys in white coats to take him away. And then all the governments can start to work together and treat the issue with the urgency that it requires. Global warming will still cause some damage in the medium term but at least there’ll be hope that the worse can be averted.

    8 January 2018 at 21:10

    The poisonous cherbub attracts the very best from the left. Always has.

    I had to laugh though, for years he was playing on the idea that he was a big swinging dick academic at UNSW. Suddenly he was no longer there 🙂

  207. Ez

    Early access to super only for ‘seriously ill’

    Australians should only be allowed early access to their super if they suffer from financial hardship or are seriously ill, says Kelly O’Dwyer.

    Fine.
    If I’m not allowed to access my money (unless I suffer serious illness or financial hardship) neither can anybody else.
    CENTRELINK CUTS FOR ALL!!!!!!!!

    Suck on that lazy, tax-eating, gender-confused, no-hopers!

  208. thefrolickingmole

    Mental healthist!

    There’s always the slim chance that our Trump loving, simpleton deniers will be cast aside and totally ignored and rendered politically impotent _ much like a mentally ill person off his meds standing by the side of a busy highway gesticulating, shouting, talking to himself and exposing himself would be ignored, until someone calls the guys in white coats to take him away.

    I see hes met Stimpson.

  209. Leigh Lowe

    However, the members of the family of a deceased person may sue if the statement defaming the deceased also indirectly defames any living members of the family. (Precedent: Krahe v TCN Channel Nine (1986) 4 NSWLR 536, 541)

    As an aside, Leo G, I googled the case in question and managed to pull up a series of defamation cases about 3/4 of a page long.
    The word “Fairfax” appeared eleven times.

  210. Rae

    >

    However, the members of the family of a deceased person may sue if the statement defaming the deceased also indirectly defames any living members of the family. (Precedent: Krahe v TCN Channel Nine (1986) 4 NSWLR 536, 541)

    Yes, Leo, that is what I was thinking.

    Dipshit, you were thinking no such thing. You didn’t have a clue. Your half-assed snipe at me clearly demonstrated that. And now you’ve dumped feelthebern directly in it because his comment specifically asserted that someone other than the deceased had knowledge of alleged offences.

  211. notafan

    Wow struth for a person not having a philosophical argument your 11.26 is a lot of words.

    A positive salad of them.

    You don’t believe in a ‘Christian god’ but he’s responsible for ‘rights’ any way.

    I do recall you insisting that you were a Catholic a few weeks ago.

    Tell me are you a liar, an idiot or both?

    If only you had an argument to make instead of some plucked out of the air incoherencies.

  212. Baldrick

    I’m buggered if I can feel a 0.4°C change over 40 years:

    Climate Council ✔ @climatecouncil
    Gen Y’s have never experienced a year of below average global temperatures in their life.
    Under 40?
    You have never experience a single year of below average global temperatures.

  213. egg_

    2.3.1.2 INDIRECTLY. The temperature of the soil adjacent to a buried cable or conduit system must also be considered as affecting the cable life. If cable temperatures become high enough, the moisture in the soil will migrate away from the cable causing a considerable increase in the soil thermal resistivity. This may lead to thermal instability of the soil and further increase it thermal resistivity which, in turn, may cause excessive cable temperatures and, perhaps, even cable failure.

    Without divulging too much, I know of a smelting plant that recently had to replace 2x HV feeder cables due to subsoil voids from decades ago that had always been present – it included replacing said cables and filling the voids with rubble – mostly sand and gravel – as the voids caused structural damage to the cable (not supporting its weight) as opposed to thermal.

  214. Leigh Lowe

    Mater

    #2605607, posted on January 9, 2018 at 4:35 pm

    From:
    An Introduction to Underground and Submarine Cable Maintenance

    That’s great Mater, but none of it refers to a temporary increase of ambient temperatures at the surface causing buried cables to fail.
    This is what shits me about that claim.
    They are trying to blame equipment failures on externalities and, by extension, it is the dreaded global warming.
    Remember that most privatised distribution companies (not sure if this was one) are on KPIs for network reliability. They love to find something … anything … outside their supposed realm of control to get relief from contractual penalties.

  215. egg_

    Is “coiled” the key word there?

    Definitely, if it was serious we’d take thermograph photos.

  216. JC

    Baldrick. I left this tweet there. I thought the place had closed up due to no funds.

    JC
    @jcbm123
    ·
    Now
    Replying to @climatecouncil
    Are you useless fucks still around? There are birds falling out of trees in Florida – dying from the cold. If Gen Y want to experience below global temps get ’em to buy a plane ticket to Florida. You zombies.

  217. feelthebern

    WTF?
    I haven’t been dumped into anything?
    I specifically didn’t refer to any claims in particular.
    Maybe he let his dogs shit on the neighbours lawn, hence my comment “He was a bad man”.
    Now fuck off.

  218. Makka

    Are you useless fucks still around? There are birds falling out of trees in Florida –

    But on the upside, flying foxes here are getting wiped out from heat stroke. YFB!

  219. Leigh Lowe

    Dipshit, you were thinking no such thing.

    Ah, so Googlery now has the power of internet ESP and knows what everyone is thinking.
    Epic fail, trying to get someone to explicitly repeat some dubious rumour, but no-one took the bait.
    It hurts, doesn’t it.
    I know mummy always told you that you were very smart.
    Mummy lied.
    Go and wash your socks you retard.

  220. notafan

    I agree, not being able to articulate your right to produce provude food clothing shelter for you and your family doesn’t mean that right didn’t exist.

    People have always defended themselves against those who would take those things away from them.

  221. Leigh Lowe

    feelthebern

    #2605646, posted on January 9, 2018 at 5:10 pm

    WTF?

    That is why it is gold.
    Googlery spent all day baiting hooks (because he is so vewwy, vewwy cwever) and no-one bit.
    Now he is angry.
    Sad.

  222. Makka

    Now he is angry.

    And we all know what that means.

  223. JC

    Do you guys realize that every time you bring attention to the Goog , a victim he has trapped in the victim cage in his basement gets closer to dying?

    Think about that.

  224. feelthebern

    Yes we do need to be careful, lest Grig becomes radicalised.

  225. egg_

    Yes we do need to be careful, lest Grig becomes radicalised.

    Snic – we need some bollards here – stat!

  226. Rae

    Sure, feelthebern, sure. You convince yourself that you didn’t mention any specific names and associate them with a particular Hollywood chaps less than savoury activities. Sounds like a good defence to me. You could even get a character reference from LL, I’m sure that would help to mitigate the damages award.

    BTW. I see JC was seeking the same clarification as I was. No ulterior motives in his case that I can see. None in mine either.

  227. notafan

    Any one who’s visited Barnett’s website would know Areff’s description of her claims were quite accurate.

  228. Ƶĩppʯ (ȊꞪꞨV)

    Dover
    in relation to “natural rights” in one breath you state:

    How can they be discoverable independently of man?

    and then:

    I’m pretty sure unwanted sexual advances or being pressured into sex were morally problematic 20 years ago but even if they were not, this would still not disprove the existence of natural rights because it is true or false independent of what is believed about sexual assault, etc. at this or that time.

    which is it? are natural rights independent or not?

  229. egg_

    Snic – we need some bollards here – stat!

    Pretty tartan ones, even.

  230. Mater

    That’s great Mater, but none of it refers to a temporary increase of ambient temperatures at the surface causing buried cables to fail.

    LL,
    The high ambient temperatures cause people to switch on AC, which in turn requires more Amps flowing through cables, which in turn causes excessive cable temps which can’t escape.
    The cables don’t give a tinkers cuss about the outside ambient temperatures, but the people using the cables do.
    In the electricity industry, there is one overriding truth. High temps = High usage. An infallible and direct correlation and all forecasts for usage (and break downs) are based on it.

  231. thefrolickingmole

    Is mummies little pustule wiper a fixated person yet?
    Should we erect some bollards around feelthebern?

  232. Stimpson J. Cat

    much like a mentally ill person off his meds standing by the side of a busy highway gesticulating, shouting, talking to himself

    That was over a f$cking year ago thank you very much.
    And it wasn’t a highway.

  233. notafan

    I don’t know Zippy

    Doesn’t the human mind have to be involved for us to know something.

    Or could a rock be able to articulate natural rights?

  234. Leigh Lowe

    The high ambient temperatures cause people to switch on AC, which in turn requires more Amps flowing through cables, which in turn causes excessive cable temps which can’t escape.

    Ah, yes.
    I think the power company was trying to imply a direct link between the ambient heat and “cable failure” (ie it were CAGW wot dun it, suh), rather than the indirect relationship of … “high heat = lots of aircon on high = bigger pull through of power = hot cable”.

  235. It’s not an Australian filum unless it also has Bryan Brown …

    Are we to take that as Jack Thompson has been “othered”?

  236. Leigh Lowe

    Do you guys realize that every time you bring attention to the Goog , a victim he has trapped in the victim cage in his basement gets closer to dying?

    It’s his mummy.
    She’s been dead since 1997.

  237. feelthebern

    It’s his mummy.

    Who was also his wife.

  238. struth

    Now your view seems to be that rights are social constructs and in view of section 18c and the ssm laws, our right to deny that two blokes can be married has been withdrawn. It no longer exists.

    That’s not my view at all, Dr BG.
    Please read back on what I said, it makes perfect sense and I.m trying not to have to go on, as I have made everything perfectly clear, just not to those who would let emotion or stubbornness effect their comprehension skills.
    Take government out of your thinking, as we are discussing what actually is a human right and how it came about.
    I believe man becoming civilised , with enough time on his hands to ponder such things created it.
    Others believe if you were born with opposing thumbs, you inherit western Christian rights no matter what culture you were born into, the moment they smack you on the bum, rights are given, even if you are a twin in desert aboriginal culture and promptly left on a bull ant’s nest to die.
    And why are rights that we inherit from our forefathers who invented them, fought and died for them, less easy to fight for than ones you believe came down with the stork?
    Government rightly, should be downstream of culture.
    Human rights are western, Christian righta as you see them, and through the long history of primitive man are a very new concept.

    Bloody hell , notafan , can I appreciate the Christian culture without being a rabid churchy?

    FMD, you are off your chops with this shit.

    Is it possible for me to appreciate Christianity and what it preaches and what good it has done for us without taking holy communion every Sunday?
    You could be a religious zealot the way you carry on, seriously, calm down.

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